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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
What makes you a
high value woman?
SPEAKER_05 (00:01):
Being a good person,
I think genuinely being somebody
who cares about other peoplemakes you a woman of substance
and makes you a good person.
I feel men think that valuemeans, okay, she looks good, she
can carry my kids, our kidsgonna look cute and coochie on
fire, like she looked good on myarm, we can walk any place, she
can switch it up.
(00:21):
She needs me.
And I don't think that's whatmen should be.
I think that's when you findyourself in trouble, when you
look for that woman.
And then later down the line youfind out, oh, when she when you
divorced it and she took allyour money.
Well, that's what you broughther in with.
So what's she gonna take?
I make the same amount of moneyand I don't need you, I want
you, I don't need you.
You don't have that power overme anymore to make me say, well,
I can't go anywhere, so I haveto put up with whatever he's
(00:43):
giving me.
SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
You hear a lot of
men say that women with money,
that women that have their own,they're too masculine, they
mouth, y'all talk too damn much.
All these negative stereotypesand these negative things
because you also have theincome.
SPEAKER_05 (00:56):
But then you're also
a gold digger if you don't have
the income.
So I'm like, so what am I like?
SPEAKER_02 (01:05):
This is Legra.
SPEAKER_03 (01:07):
This is Stephanie,
this is Cherie, and this is
Ivania.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
And this is Timeless
and Unfiltered, where we are
spilling the tea on midlife onelaugh at a time.
SPEAKER_05 (01:26):
Hey everybody,
welcome back to another episode
of Timeless and Unfiltered.
We are spilling the tea onMidlife one lap at a time.
SPEAKER_03 (01:35):
That's Lebra and I'm
Stephanie.
SPEAKER_05 (01:39):
I was gonna bring
everybody in.
I was trying to take control cutstart over.
We be going.
SPEAKER_06 (01:45):
This is like
Stephanie.
This is Sharice, and I'm Ivania.
And this is what happened whenyou haven't been together for a
minute.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (01:53):
Right, right, right.
Well, I wanted to continue ourconversation we had about high
value men and high value women,if y'all don't mind.
Because you know, we could havetalked about that forever.
SPEAKER_03 (02:03):
Forever.
So we have to break it up.
Yes.
And so the question is (02:06):
if a
man's value is based on his
provision and leadership, thenwhat makes a woman high value?
SPEAKER_01 (02:14):
And income, right?
SPEAKER_05 (02:15):
Wasn't that like a
big provision based?
Now, whose definition are welooking for?
Our definition or society'sdefinition of a high-valued
woman.
SPEAKER_02 (02:25):
So let's uh the only
thing we can do is talk about
our own experience.
So what what's what's what makesyou a high value woman?
SPEAKER_05 (02:32):
Integrity.
I am able to like I think awoman should be able to provide
for herself.
Now, if you want to help providefor me, I can help provide for
you as well.
I think that should go bothways.
Um I don't want to bringreligion into it, but you have
to believe in something biggerthan yourself, not just be
self-focused, not selfish, umgiving and then being able to
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receive and give equally.
Um I talked about this in myepisode.
Just being a good person, Ithink genuinely being somebody
who cares about other peoplemakes you a woman of substance
and makes you a good person, aperson of high value.
Now I feel men think that valuemeans okay, she looked good, she
can carry my kids, our kids aregonna look cute, and you know,
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she got good too.
She looked good, got thatcoochie on fight, like she
looked good on my arm, we canwalk any place, she can switch
it up.
She needs me.
And I don't think that's whatmen should be.
I think that's when you findyourself in trouble, when you
look for that woman, and thenlater down the line you find
out, oh, when she when you'redivorced and she took all your
money.
Well, that's what you broughther in with.
(03:36):
So of course you're gonna takeit.
SPEAKER_03 (03:37):
So or if you lose
your job, she ain't able to pick
up the pieces.
A lot of women can't pick up thepieces when they're solely
dependent on a man, and theny'all all suddenly looking
crazy.
And I feel like um the dentistguy um out of the guy, he killed
himself and his wife and hisdaughter.
They have a big mansion, yeah.
(03:57):
Like maybe two weeks ago.
Yeah, and the rumor was is thathe was the sole provider, and
they have a big, beautifulmansion.
But he had, I guess he gambled alot or whatever.
And so he just was underwaterand he just decided to take
everybody out.
Look, don't take yourself out.
Because me and my daughter washaving a conversation.
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She's like, Well, why would hedo that?
And I was like, he probablyfeels like they're all I got,
and I wouldn't leave them withall the debt and all the
headache and everything.
So I'm just gonna takeeverybody.
SPEAKER_05 (04:27):
Men tend to take
everybody.
I don't think it well, I thinkwomen commit suicide.
SPEAKER_03 (04:32):
We don't take your
family.
I've never heard of a womandoing murder suicide.
SPEAKER_02 (04:36):
I'm not pretty sure
his face.
What's your what's your yourface saying something?
SPEAKER_01 (04:40):
Oh, my face is
saying, what happened?
Where are we going?
SPEAKER_05 (04:43):
Well, uh, he was the
provider.
He was the provider.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (04:47):
Because he was the
provider.
SPEAKER_05 (04:49):
And if they can't do
that, then sometimes their whole
thing is.
Persona is like, yeah, that'swho they are.
SPEAKER_03 (04:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (04:54):
Especially when
other people, other men look at
them as the person that has itall together, and now you don't
have anything like that shame.
Oh, and the ego.
SPEAKER_02 (05:05):
Well, what is it
what is it when a woman I'm I'm
trying to think of thedescription that we read, the
high value man um last week of ahigh value man, and of course,
the all the integrity, all theleadership, all the things, and
then it boiled down to money.
So now that you have as a highvalue woman and you have the
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money, does that make your valueless?
SPEAKER_05 (05:32):
It depends on the
money.
Yeah.
And who's making the definition?
SPEAKER_02 (05:35):
Because why is that
making us less?
Because we you've also or we'vealso been able to accomplish.
SPEAKER_05 (05:42):
Because I think
money is power and control.
If you don't have the mostmoney, if you don't make the
most money, then there's no realpower you have over me anymore.
Like you can't say I'm gonna dowhatever I want to, you're just
gonna take it.
Like if I make the same amountof money and I don't need you, I
want you, if I don't need you,you don't have that power over
me anymore to make me say, well,I can't go anywhere, so I have
to put up with whatever he'sgiving me.
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
So you you hear a
lot of men, and I'm this is
these are all generalizations,you guys.
SPEAKER_05 (06:07):
Yes, everybody's in
the disclaimer.
SPEAKER_02 (06:10):
We get it, yes.
But you hear a lot of men saythat women with money, that
women that have their own, theythey're they're too masculine.
Um they mouth, y'all talk toodamn much, you you, you know,
you you mouthy, you you know,all these negative uh
stereotypes and these negativethings because you also have the
(06:32):
income.
SPEAKER_05 (06:33):
But then you're also
a gold digger if you don't have
the income.
So I'm like, so what am I?
Like, it's no in between.
I want your money, I don't needyour money.
SPEAKER_01 (06:41):
But on social, so
the level set a little bit
because I I know where you'regoing and I agree with you.
I do see a lot of younger womenon social media talking about
they don't need a man becausethey have all of those things,
but it's such a negativeconnotation in the way they're
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on social media and talkingabout it and just doing the most
about it, right?
That it makes it hard for us whogenuinely did well for
ourselves, right?
We fit, we we were forced to,but we fit all of those
qualifications that a high-valueman sit in, including the
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income, but we're still soft.
We still we're still feminine,we still want the things.
Nothing has changed about usother than we put ourselves in a
good position.
But we have another side, right?
And remember what we talk aboutis not everybody, but like we
must admit social media sitsthere.
(07:52):
And when I watch some of thefolks sit on there and talk,
it's just like, huh, you know,and so it makes it for, you
know, some of the folks that'slooking at it like, damn.
And then we get labeled for whatother people are out there
doing.
But one of the things that Ifeel like that society doesn't
do anymore is take a person,look at me independently for who
(08:17):
I am, what I bring, what whatI'm about, what my worth is.
That we look at, we just putpeople together just like you
look at us, right?
Mature women who have our stufftogether.
But we're lumped in.
We're we're yeah, because we'relumped in the well, how what
difference do does it make thatwe got it going on and we're
(08:38):
this side?
Y'all, you're this, you're that.
So we we you know what I mean?
We continue to be just bedropped in this category and
category of stuff.
And I feel like not that Ireally give a shit, but we we're
you know, for the most part,when we're talking about us
collectively, why do we have tokeep pulling ourselves out of
(09:00):
this bucket and you have to dothat?
To be placed into anotherbucket, and then you're put into
another bucket.
SPEAKER_02 (09:05):
It's human behavior.
Yeah at the end of it.
SPEAKER_01 (09:07):
It is, but how do we
change the terminology?
SPEAKER_05 (09:12):
Say, I don't need a
man, I don't need a man to
provide because I can provide,but I need a man, or I need to
be a good one.
No, I need a man, I need a manif I want to say a man, or I
need love, I need love.
I think we all have to surviveoff of love.
Like we may not all need arelationship, we all need love
to survive.
Shout out to Bell Hooks, who'spassed away, but I just read the
book all about love.
I forgot that book.
Oh my god, it's life changing.
(09:33):
I love that book.
It is life changing.
And it's not just about romanticlove, it's about love in all
aspects, but it is so good.
It is so good.
And part of what she teaches, wedo need love.
Like as a community andeverything.
We think of it as some flutteryfeeling in your stomach and all
this stuff, but no, it is.
It's part of the hierarchy thatwe learned in school.
(09:54):
Yes, it is so much deeper thanthat.
So we do need love.
We don't need somebody toprovide for us and do all these
things that we think societyneeds, says we need, but we do
need love.
We need to love each other.
SPEAKER_03 (10:05):
So genuinely love.
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
And I think the the
biggest thing for me at this
stage was I learned self-love.
SPEAKER_00 (10:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (10:13):
Where, and don't be
wrong, I always Legra's always
been Legra.
But the insecurities, beingunsure of yourself, being unsure
of who you are is younger Legra.
On the outside looking in, she'sconfident, she's whatever, but
she was so uncertain of herself.
And I think at this stage of mylife, I love me.
(10:38):
Good or bad.
I mean, I'm not everybody's cupof tea, but I love me.
And then I think when youoperate in that yeah, that's so
you don't take a lot of bullshitwhen you love yourself.
That real that realm,absolutely, that I love me, but
it took me a long time to gethere to say I love Legra.
I love everything about thatbitch.
(10:58):
I love her.
Now she got some faults, and sheis not perfect.
Right, and she's not perfect,but to love myself.
And so for me, a high value man,because I'm in a I'm in a place
of peace in my life.
Um, and it took a long time toget there.
But I'm in a place of peace inmy life, and I don't want
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anything, and that includesfriends, family, a man, anything
don't disrupt my peace.
So when I look for a high valueman, it's never it's never been
money.
Even when I was in my 20s, itwasn't about money.
My mama's name was DeLois, justin case she didn't know.
Delois didn't play about herdaughters.
She didn't.
(11:43):
Y'all gonna be independent.
Not and my mother always had anokay, but she always had her her
grind on.
She was always trying to dosomething.
She was always pulling, I hateto say it, she was always
pulling her men up.
You know what I'm saying?
She was the woman in thebackground, but that same boss
(12:04):
heifers sat on the side of thebathtub and scrubbed her man's
hands and feet every day becausehe he worked in a he owned an
auto shop, so he had to greaseand stuff.
So she sat and buffed his handsevery day.
She his dinner was still on thetable.
And when it what dinner wasn'ton the table, guess what?
Sometimes he cooked.
Because she worked, she wasworking.
(12:34):
Uh things.
You know, so I've always seenthat, and she's always raised us
to be independent.
But at the same time, I alsofeel like that's been to your
detriment.
Right.
If you ask anybody that's everdated me what was the best thing
about me, they'll say I wasindependent.
If you ask them what was theworst thing about me, they'll
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say I was independent.
SPEAKER_05 (12:56):
How do you think
that plays into this role of
being submissive?
Because I think that should beon both sides.
Should be men and women, and Ithink sometimes women, I think
men feel that we're not able tobe submissive and they want a
submissive woman.
And the definition of submissiveis very important in each
relationship because it couldchange.
But I feel like men also have tobe vulnerable and be submissive
in certain areas where, say, wehave the expertise in something,
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be willing to learn from us andbe submissive in that.
And then also, you know, we besubmissive in certain ways as
well.
So I think sometimes men don'tlook at it.
Look, I think the value thatthey place in women is a woman
that can be submissive andlisten and you know.
SPEAKER_02 (13:33):
But I think in order
to submit, I have to build safe.
Safe, yes.
Yes, to submit.
SPEAKER_03 (13:38):
Yeah, and you have
to be the leader.
And I have the trust that you'regonna make the right decision.
For us, everyone's not gonnawalk for us.
SPEAKER_02 (13:45):
I think it's built
in us, just to be honest.
Every woman is submissive.
SPEAKER_03 (13:48):
Yeah, we're gonna
take care of her.
SPEAKER_02 (13:49):
When she's safe.
SPEAKER_06 (13:50):
When she's safe,
when she's secure.
SPEAKER_02 (13:53):
When she's yeah, you
have to put me in that space.
If I gotta deal with yourbullshit all the time, no, bruh,
I'm not submitting.
And I'm gonna fight you.
Right.
Look, oh no, that that's that'sdefinitely look, he said I'm
gonna fight you.
You know, but you have to put mein that space.
But that's that's therelationship.
You know, if our relationshipdon't put me in a safe space, if
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I'm always on guard with my man,yeah.
I can't how do I submit tosomeone that can't lead me?
God, you can't.
Because we what's thatdefinition?
Leadership.
It ain't it is it's not themoney, it's not the money.
And you see a lot of women thatmake more money with their men,
but those men know how we treattheir woman because it's not
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about the money.
It's not about the money.
You don't put me in my femininespace.
Because believe me, believe me,if I could stop with love in the
name of Jesus, if I could stop.
I would, but I can't because Ihave to eat.
Yeah.
Because you're not providing forme.
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Now, one thing I'm not gonna do,I is I've never been about a
man's money.
I'm a little things.
I pay attention to the details.
They do.
I love filet mignon, y'all.
Y'all know I'm a snake eater.
You got me on that.
Thank you.
But I don't eat it every day.
I'm like a hot dog.
Right.
(15:22):
And especially if you burn thatsucker all the way around on the
grill, cook me a hot dog.
I don't expect you to be a chef,but it's the effort, it's the
little things.
I there was one guy that I usedto date, and he never, it was
never money when he stopped atthe gas station and got me a
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pack of Skittles, the purplepack.
Because they were my favorite.
Because what he said was hethought about me.
That's what that is what'salways been important to me.
When you make decisions aboutwhat we're getting ready to do,
I know you thought of me whenyou made that decision.
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Because you made that.
You know, like one of thebiggest things was like I don't
eat seafood.
So I don't care that you eatseafood, but when you order
something, consider what I'mgoing to eat too.
Let's go to the seafoodrestaurant.
Legrand got a bomb ass filletmeal here for you.
Thank you, boo.
And you can eat all the crablegs and shrimps and scrimps and
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script that you want, but youconsider me when you made
decisions.
That's high value for people.
Yeah.
That's high value for me.
Don't my my life ain't bumpy.
Don't bring no bums.
Don't bring no drama.
Oh my god.
Don't bring no bums.
I felt so bad the other day Ihad to pick the dogs up from um
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the groomer, and this gentlemanhad a really big cane corso when
I was going inside to get mydogs.
So I had to wait for a minute.
And then, you know, he was, andhe had a pickup truck, so he put
the dog on the back of thepickup truck.
And I was waiting for him to,you know, make sure he was
latched in there before I walkedby.
So I went in to go get the dogs,and I'm got the dogs, and it's
been a few minutes.
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I'm like, this man is stilloutside.
He's still outside.
And I was like, okay.
And I because I didn't want tobring my dogs out with his dog
on the back of the truck.
He's like, okay, I'm gonna justhave because he's taking too
long.
So I took him out, the dogs arebarking at each other, all that
shit.
So I'm trying to get the dogs inthe car, and he's like, I've
been waiting on you to come out,and I was like, Okay, he was
waiting on you to leave.
(17:28):
He was like, I'm sorry, I'm soI'm sorry, I was waiting on you
to leave because of the dogs andstuff.
And he's like, You got a man?
And when I tell you, the firstthing out of my mouth was like,
and I thought about it after thefact, and I was like, ooh,
you're cursing at me right now.
Because all I thought about, allI thought about was my piece.
Jeez.
He was a little bit.
You could tell he was clearlyyounger than me, too.
(17:50):
And all I thought about was,ooh, it's some bullshit that
comes along with you.
He's cute.
Yeah.
And it might not have been, thatmight not have been my best
response, but that was myresponse because the first thing
I thought of was, ooh, nigga, ifyou know what peaceful space I'm
in right now, and I know it'ssome bullshit that comes along
with you.
It really was.
(18:10):
It was my first response.
And I was like, ooh, you arecursing at me right now.
That is all.
And he's like, about having aman.
I was like, yeah, but thank youso much.
And and I put my dogs in thecar, drove my ass off, and
didn't think twice about it.
But I thought about it laterwhen I got home.
SPEAKER_05 (18:26):
He could have been
the one.
Was he 6'5?
SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
I have no idea.
Because I never looked.
Because when getting in, I mean,when I was getting out of the
car, all I saw was your dog.
Yo, Kane Corso, and I'm tryingto avoid your dog.
And then so getting in the car.
So, but when he looked, I mean,he was attractive, I clearly all
of that stuff.
But I all I thought about was,no, oh, oh, mm-mm.
SPEAKER_03 (18:45):
So what if people
look at us like that?
Because I just did that tosomebody.
I'm sure they do.
And that, and see, and so weknow we're not what they think
we are.
So you looked at him, like,damn, he's nice looking.
He's gonna is it gonna be somemess.
And he might, some men mightlook at you and be like, oh,
she's beautiful, got it goingon, he's about to do that.
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And now we don't do it.
I'm sure they do.
Like, dang, but what if hewouldn't have been?
But that's why I said I thoughtabout that.
No, I'm still scared.
But that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
I thought about it
after the fact.
But I did think about that.
After the fact.
But my initial response wasbruh.
My space is so peaceful rightnow.
I don't mm mm mm.
I don't even want to ripple inthe wave.
Don't, I don't want to all ofthat.
But it might have been my body.
unknown (19:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:42):
You never know.
It could have been.
We might have.
And we will never unless you'rewatching.
Mr.
King Corsic.
SPEAKER_06 (19:55):
We will never know.
Hit this lady with never.
SPEAKER_02 (19:58):
But I did, but I did
think about it after the fact.
But my first, but I had to,again, go home and process that
for myself because all I thoughtabout was my piece.
SPEAKER_03 (20:07):
Like, I don't want
no man.
SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
I don't want no man.
SPEAKER_03 (20:10):
But you gotta be
open.
SPEAKER_02 (20:11):
And you do.
SPEAKER_05 (20:12):
Because you don't
know what the universe is
bringing you.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (20:15):
I agree.
I agree.
But I also, but that that was mehaving a conversation with
myself.
Legra, you done put up a wall.
You don't wall.
You don't put up a wall.
Because don't disrespect.
I get hit on all the time.
And when I tell you I could careless, but why is that, Legra?
Because I don't know.
I think it's just the constant.
(20:36):
Like you just said, I'm you butput it, you're put in this
bucket.
You're put in this bucket.
You're put in this bucket.
And sometimes at some point youjust say, I'm not getting a
bucket at all.
SPEAKER_05 (20:43):
But how are you
going to meet somebody if you
get hit all the time and you'relike, I do.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
But you've been on a
you've been on a work grind as
well.
And it's very hard.
It really is.
It is so hard to deal withsomebody when you're on a work
grind because they don'tunderstand it.
And you always in your computer.
Oh my God.
You just, do you ever take abreak and oh there you go again?
(21:10):
And you, I mean, you kind oftake a lot of slack for trying
to get to a space that you wantto be in.
It's really hard to me.
No, it's um it's hard forsomebody to really understand
where you are and where you'retrying to get to, to buy into
that.
You know.
But sometimes they might be ontheir grind too, though.
And we bring together, we meetup when we get together.
SPEAKER_06 (21:30):
But because we're
women, it's different.
It's different.
But you gotta be open.
You got like, if God send youall these people now, are you
like one of us?
SPEAKER_02 (21:39):
I'm open, but I
think in this moment I'm not.
And I had to, I had to have thatconversation.
Because exactly what you justsaid, I'm in my grind right now.
And honestly, and I think lastweek, I had a lot of stressful
shit going on last week withwork and and and in a good way,
but I was I was alreadyoverwhelmed.
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And I had to tell myself, I hadto admit to myself, Legra, you
are overwhelmed.
You have so much on your plateright now.
So when he even just sayinghello, I was like, oh uh-uh.
I got you.
That is not something.
SPEAKER_05 (22:11):
It was in a
different space than that.
SPEAKER_02 (22:12):
Yeah, I wasn't, I
wasn't in that space.
So I had to, but I didn'tprocess that till later.
In that moment, I was like, uh,mm-mm, no, don't even talk to
me.
Let me get my damn dogs and gohome and go back in my queendom
and get back on my grind.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think it was just this headspace that I was in at that
moment.
But I had to, I had to processthat.
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I had to have that conversationwith myself.
Like, why did you respond likethat?
SPEAKER_05 (22:37):
Because you
recognize it though.
You talk about it.
SPEAKER_03 (22:41):
But I realize now
that I couldn't be in a
relationship right now with allthe stuff I got going on.
Like I sit and tell myself,because I feel overwhelmed with
a lot of stuff that I got goingon.
I'm like, I couldn't be in arelationship because I wouldn't
even want to talk to him halfthe time unless he was like,
babe, I I just feel like Iwouldn't have time and they
would feel neglected and stufflike that, to where I was like,
(23:03):
it's not me.
SPEAKER_02 (23:04):
Because you wouldn't
have you wouldn't have time to
be consistent.
I wouldn't.
SPEAKER_03 (23:07):
And they would and
they would feel some kind of
way, and I promise it ain't you.
I just need to get this.
At least you recognize it.
Some people, I just need a man,so I don't care what's going on
in my life.
SPEAKER_01 (23:15):
I think I'll be in a
relationship when they don't
need to be in a relationship.
Long distance works for mebecause it allows me that time.
You know what I mean?
It's like the open ticket.
I'm coming, right?
And then when I have somethinggoing on, um there's benefits to
it.
Yeah, you know, you can say,hey, I got this going on.
SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
But see, the great
part about that is though, and
I'm gonna go back to you being ahigh value high value, and we're
gonna talk about income.
Okay, of high value, is youngerLegra didn't like long distance
because one, you could hardlysee each other, because two, you
couldn't afford to be flyingback and forth all the damn
time.
Let's start with that.
Yeah, I couldn't afford to belike high value allows you to
(23:55):
see that.
I couldn't afford, we couldn'tafford to see each other all the
time.
So those those relationships,yeah, when you were in something
long distance, younger Legra,you couldn't, both of y'all
couldn't afford that back andforthness all the time.
But now that you're in thisspace, like you said, that the
distance allows y'all to stillhave your individuality and
y'all travel together a lot.
(24:16):
You you go up there a lot.
Hell, she just left here.
You know what I'm saying?
So the back and forthness, youcan afford to do that now, this
high-value woman, got yourpoints together.
Right.
So it allows you to have thattype of relationship.
But younger Legro couldn't dothat.
No, that relationship wasn'tgonna last because y'all was
gonna never see each other.
That's true.
SPEAKER_03 (24:34):
And back in our day,
there wasn't a lot of time.
And you had to pay forcollecting.
You had to pay for your distancecalls.
Right.
And there wasn't no frontier.
You wasn't going for$29.
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
Frontier elite.
I'm a frontier.
SPEAKER_02 (24:48):
You wasn't going for
$29.
So that but that allows you nowthat you can actually do those
things where we couldn't do thatbefore.
Right.
We couldn't do that before.
But for me, my uh my high value,um I I it's really weird when
people ask because it's hard totalk about yourself.
And I was so proud of you.
(25:08):
Let me put that.
Let's y'all better forgive herher shouts.
Because the next one episodeone, episode one of season one.
SPEAKER_03 (25:17):
You better cross.
You better cross your girls awhole lot.
SPEAKER_02 (25:23):
Let's move that out.
She would not talk about herselfin that way.
And look, I like to think thatthe couch had a little bit to do
with the button also had a lotto do with that.
Okay, how about you meet?
Look, right?
So let's let's rewind that justfor two seconds.
You were coming out of arelationship where you were, and
I hate the word broken.
(25:44):
Oh no, it's broken.
Okay, well, but if you want touse that term, okay, where
you're you weren't at your best.
Let's put it that way.
Okay.
We won't say you were broken.
You just weren't at your spirit.
You were spirit, your spiritwasn't at its best, your
confidence wasn't at its best.
But look how that many the rightpeople in your life knows how to
(26:04):
bring that out of you.
Yeah.
Knows how to bring that out ofyou.
Because you were high value.
Let's keep it 100.
You were high value in thatother relationship.
And you made more money in thatother relationship, and you
carried and paid the bills, andyou did it in that other
relationship, yet you werebroken.
Yes.
SPEAKER_05 (26:22):
Point to everybody,
don't do that.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
Well, it's not
anybody, but you but but that
attests to the the man.
unknown (26:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
And then it helped
you grow too.
SPEAKER_03 (26:32):
Yeah.
Because then you know whatyou're doing, put up with it.
I swear, I prayed the day beforea minute.
SPEAKER_05 (26:36):
I prayed for God's
best.
I said, Lord, just send me yourbest and give me the discernment
to know when it arrives.
Right.
So come through.
Yes.
And he came to I ask God to makeme.
SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
Look at the attitude
of that.
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (26:49):
See, that's what
that man's supposed to do.
And it don't matter that youwere a high-value woman before
then.
That man brings that out of you.
He brings that energy, thatsoftness, that all those things.
Because it's in, it's in, we'rewomen.
It's in us.
It's in us.
So I love it.
So I had to point that outbecause you couldn't have said
all those things better.
And if you did, we wouldn't haveheard you.
SPEAKER_03 (27:12):
Because that voice
would have been something like
this.
We wouldn't have heard you.
SPEAKER_02 (27:17):
As a matter of fact,
what a couple months will do for
you.
What a couple months will do foryou.
But I love it.
And I love, but look how alsofor high value, and I'm using
the air quotes, women aresitting on the same couch
together, not competing againsteach other, can be friends,
(27:41):
ain't no mess.
Hello, can we can we get acommunity or something for that?
Period.
The stereotypes that they saythat we all are, that we're
showing right here, that that'sjust stereotypes.
SPEAKER_05 (27:54):
I wish people in
other countries would see this
because they we go there andthey think, oh, that's odd and
she's this.
SPEAKER_02 (28:00):
She's housewise, and
she's right now.
And it's no knock against thoseshows they make for great TV.
Yeah.
That's TV.
That's TV.
That's not reality.
That's TV.
Unbundle us.
That is TV.
I love this, y'all.
Yay, yay.
For two seconds I felt feminine.
I was gonna cry, but I was like,yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03 (28:19):
She's a flower,
y'all.
She's a flower.
But another bloom.
Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_01 (28:25):
You want me to cry?
No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_03 (28:26):
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
Because we know it.
Who can cry at the time?
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (28:31):
Who can cry at the
drop of the diamonds at damn
charisse?
I sure can.
Okay.
But what you were sharingsomething at the table yesterday
because you worked hereyesterday.
You worked over here with meyesterday.
And I you was like, whoo! And Iwas like, oh my God, you haven't
had that in a minute.
Okay, well, we just talked aboutit.
It was your post where you putthe post up about your your you
(28:53):
just took 500 people to Jamaicaand you were just talking about
your post.
SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
Yes.
So yeah.
We didn't even talk.
You know what?
We did so much this summer thatwe didn't talk about.
So we didn't talk about yourtrip to Jamaica and my trip to,
but yeah, just getting back fromum Jamaica, taking 500 people,
and I sat on the sofa.
I had a lot of moments.
I had a moment because one ofthe families who cooked, I heard
(29:18):
from and they called me onFaceTime, and I just felt I was
out there bawling like a fool.
And then, yeah, and then I hadanother moment when I literally
was thinking about you, Legra,and I posted it.
And the the thought process waswhen I met first met Legra, um,
I was like, damn, she's rough.
(29:40):
I like her sister because hersister's just fun and talk a
lot, and you know, she just shejust rough.
I don't want her doing my taxesno more.
That's what I thought.
But then as I got to know Legra,I'm like, okay, she's really
soft and she's really nice, andshe's really kind and she's
really helpful, and the thingthat I Said about Legra was that
(30:03):
she's got this big and all y'alltravel agents is in that or was
under her, whatever, because I'mabout to put y'all out there,
but she's got this big network,and I'm saying this to you, and
I said it in the post, but Ilearned a lot from you, and you
didn't have to teach meanything.
You could have kept it all in,which is what a lot of people
(30:24):
do, right?
I ain't teaching her because shemight be better than me, but
leaders like Obama and some ofthe people who are real leaders,
they put the best people aroundthem because they know they'll
take care of them, right?
And so when you started buildingyour team and bringing people
onto your team, some paidattention, some didn't.
And I was just thanking youpublicly for the tears.
SPEAKER_02 (30:51):
Here go the tears,
y'all.
SPEAKER_01 (30:52):
I'm gonna squeeze my
butt.
SPEAKER_02 (30:54):
But I was thanking,
squeeze.
It's okay.
Squeeze, squeeze.
Here come the tears, y'all.
That's it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
But I was thinking,
I was thanking Legra because
Legra's something else, y'all.
We meet in the middle we meet inthe middle.
I mean, that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_02 (31:15):
Because we meet in
the middle.
SPEAKER_01 (31:16):
Yeah, I'm just the
marshmallow that gets here, and
she's the rough and tough withthe Afro puffs.
That just came to my brain.
We meet honestly nicely in themiddle, but I wouldn't have been
um without her showing me.
I probably would have gottenthere, but I wouldn't have
(31:38):
gotten there as fast.
I wouldn't have, right?
Um and so you helped meshortcut.
I wouldn't even have been intravel.
You're the one who did my cutsand said, you need to be doing
something else.
So, you know, you give peopletheir flowers, and I wanted to
do that in that post and all ofthe great congratulations, but
nobody probably reached out toyou to say, Lekra, I I want to
(32:00):
come back or whatnot.
But my point in saying that isthat when you have powerful
women who are confident in whothey are, you don't have to
worry about, you don't, youdon't, seriously, you don't have
to worry about them pulling backor not wanting to help you or
not wanting like this this issomething different and special.
(32:23):
You know what I'm saying?
And some people in a lifetimedon't find this.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
And we just found somethingspecial because baby, Jamaica,
fuck.
That's what it was.
That whole song, um, it wasamazing.
So thank you, Legra, publicly.
But um, we just have something.
(32:45):
We have something great, and andnot only that, where I am now
from where I was when I met you,right?
Even emotionally, where you are.
Oh, yeah, because I would havebeen on the floor rolling over
and crying.
Girl, I would have been on thefloor rolling right now.
Just now, I would have beencrying and rolling.
But um, I I'm always gonna havea part of me that with me.
(33:07):
Y'all know that, right?
That whole emotional side of mecan't help it.
I'll be like that for the restof my life.
But we have something great, youknow.
And you couldn't even have toldme years ago that I was um a
high value.
But I do think too, becausewe're talking about it.
Even though we had the income.
Right, absolutely.
(33:27):
But when we talk aboutrelationships, I think that
what's been poured into me forthe last couple years, just in
my relationship, you know what Imean, help put me in a space
that I will never go back.
There's no way I could everaccept some of the things that I
accepted before.
Um, but you don't know.
Sometimes you, and I said thisbefore, sometimes you never know
(33:51):
what you're missing until theyarrive.
SPEAKER_00 (33:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:54):
Exactly.
And then when it's there, it'slike, oh, is this what this was
supposed to be?
Yeah.
This is what it's supposed tobe.
You know what I mean?
And so um, yeah, I think thatterm, I don't think that term
let me upgrade you.
Sometimes people think that'snegative, yeah.
(34:15):
Upgrade me.
But when you both, like I'llthis ain't okay, y'all gonna
laugh.
But going back to Olive Gardenand all of those places, you
know what I'm saying?
Like the things that youthought, oh, we're gonna eat
really.
You know what I mean?
When you start dating somebodywho's a chef and you really
introduce a state 48, or we goto every country and I want to
(34:36):
find the best restaurant, andyou're gonna do this, like we
upgrade each other back to whatyou were talking about.
We can help up, we can helpupgrade each other.
Yeah, it doesn't always have tobe this financial thing sitting
here.
If you both walk away, if thathappens, but better than better
(34:57):
than we were when we met, thenit's that's just an amazing
thing.
So well set.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:06):
We're gonna wrap
that up, dude.
SPEAKER_01 (35:07):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (35:10):
Thank you really.
SPEAKER_01 (35:15):
It is what it is.
And just sitting it, not doingit.
Because remember what we used tosay about you uh, and I've done
this for a very long time,dimming your light around other
people because you didn't wantthem to look at you a certain
way or even be mad because nowit's like uh this is just what
it is.
SPEAKER_06 (35:33):
Bougie used to be a
bad thing.
I'm like, what's wrong withbeing bougie?
SPEAKER_05 (35:36):
Like, if I like
certain things and I want to be
like, and whatever that is, yourcircle is very important.
SPEAKER_02 (35:41):
It is.
Your circle is very important.
Yeah.
When you got faux bad bitches, LL.
And I know that that that thatterm bitch offends some people,
but these are faux bad bitches.
When you got four bad bitcheswho, again, you're not competing
with each other.
You're not, I'm not looking overmy shoulder.
I'm not trying to check and seewhere you at, what you're doing,
(36:03):
and I gotta try to top that.
All those, all those stereotypesthat I think they put on
successful black women.
SPEAKER_03 (36:09):
And we're humble.
No, but there's women like that.
Oh no, there are.
But we will go.
SPEAKER_05 (36:14):
But we need you to
comparison.
That's what social media does.
You compare yourself to otherpeople all the time.
Well, they have this car, Igotta get this car, they're
wearing this, they have thatbag, I gotta get this bag.
I can't do it.
No, it's not worth my.
SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
But it's not, but
you I don't want competition in
my circle.
Not in your circle, not in mycircle.
Now, if you see something Ineed, I expect for you to be
honest with me.
I expect, tell me, and if it'ssomething you can help me with,
let me help my sister.
It's not, well, let me help you.
You can't now you can't go nohigher than this.
Right.
Because I'm right here.
Right.
So you can't go no higher thanthis.
Let me help you to a certainpoint.
(36:47):
No, let me help you.
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
But we do help a
community.
Now, I can say that about nomatter what we are, how much we
talk, at the end of the day, weare true, which is why
personally I love our circlebecause we're humble.
We are a very humble circle.
And we, girl, we gotta talkabout, we help each other, we
help other people to a fault.
(37:10):
Like we just gotta talk aboutthat one day.
But we really do.
SPEAKER_02 (37:13):
At the detriment of
yourself sometimes.
SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (37:16):
Especially
financially.
SPEAKER_01 (37:18):
That part, that
whole entire part.
SPEAKER_02 (37:20):
And as single women.
SPEAKER_01 (37:22):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:23):
Well, just like
look, I'm throwing it all out
there.
Jeez.
SPEAKER_01 (37:26):
Look, all of our
faces are like No, it's the
truth because some I I I yeah, Ijust don't know what some people
see.
You gotta have the audacity toask for things that you really
shouldn't ask for.
Get it cheese.
Audacity is at an all-time high,but we got talking about it.
But that's a whole notherepisode.
SPEAKER_02 (37:41):
We're gonna wrap
this up because we could be here
all day.
Because especially if we getinto yeah, yeah, y'all already
know.
This is like girls, this isStephanie, this is Sharice, and
this is Ivania.
And this is Timeless Unfiltered,where we are spilling the tea on
MidLife one laugh at a time.
We will see y'all next week.
Are we gonna be here all day?
SPEAKER_03 (38:02):
I love it.