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May 20, 2025 61 mins
Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales! On this episode I am joined by my guest, Eric Freeman Sims, and we discuss the upcoming GoblinCon event as well as the the Knight House in Hopkinsville Ky.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was done.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I wasn't dealing with them.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
that turned me.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,
it turned and looked at us. And one of the
things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I see an orb of light. It is just circling
these steps like it is waiting for me.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
They're basically like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,
it don't like death. Welcome back to Tenafoil Tells. I'm
your host Brandon Tonight, we're joined by my guest Eric Simms. Eric,
thanks for coming on here and talking with Yeah, thanks
for having me. Would you like to let the audience
know a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, I've been a paranormal investgative researcher for I guess
over twenty years now, since I was a teenager, and
I started out before the TV shows all started, and
I kind of didn't even know what a I didn't
even know people got together and went out and like
you know, invesigated places, in graveyards and things. I just
knew it was something we did around here where I

(01:40):
live in the Nashville area.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
It was kind of thing in high school.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
You go sneak into a certain location, this historic Civil
War location, and people had experiences there. But what kind
of threw me into that was my father passed away
when I was fourteen, and so I was always interested
in the paranormal, and that just kind of thrust me
into actually going out and seeking out you know what
happens after we die, and trying to prove to myself that,

(02:05):
you know, he didn't just cease to exist, that he
actually continued on in some form or the other. And
I got investigating then and I've been doing it ever
since and researching everything I can possibly get my hands
on about the paranormalal So, my forte is ghost of
course in haunted places, but I kind of am dangerous

(02:28):
enough to know a little bit about everything. So about
five years ago I started the Unseen Paranormal podcast and
started talking to different guests every week from all over
the paranormal from TV and from all the different aspects
from Bigfoot to you know, the mothman, to ghosts to
autumn kind of stuff. And that kind of got me
more involved in the paranormal world as a whole and

(02:50):
started doing conventions and things like that, and that rolled
into writing my first book, A Small Town Haunts and
Legs of Tennessee, just hearing all the story and thinking
there's so many locations and so much history that people
don't ever know about or hear about because they're not
from you know, certain areas, like most of us that
are into ghost or Bigfoot or whatever, we're familiar with

(03:14):
all the legends and the tales that you know where
we live for sure, and so that I wanted to
put out a book of that. You know, even if
you're from Tennessee, you might not know, you know, East Tennessee.
If you live in Middle Tennessee, might not know all
this stuff in East Tennessee or West Tennessee, you're you know,
vice versa. So I kind of rolled into writing the

(03:35):
book and I love storytelling and it's a huge tradition
in Tennessee, especially in the Appalachian Mountains and East Tennessee,
and we get a lot of our We actually get
a lot of our English words from there, like cattyewampus
and the Boogeyman comes from the wood booger, which is
actually a term for Bigfoot and things like that. So

(03:55):
those stories have been handed down and they've kind of
changed in the pop culture into things like you know
and things like that. But uh, yeah, just uh, just
fascinated with the paranormal. I actually worked twenty years in
the medical field and retired right before COVID. I worked
in the emergency medicine, and the podcast allowed me to
get out of the emergency medicine and to do.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
The panormal full time.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
So now I also own a historic location called the
Nighthouse in Hopkinsville, Kentucky that we do lots of history stuff,
and then we also rented out for paranormal investigations and
we do public goo sounds and things like that. So
I am fortunate enough to do the panormal for a
living now, and.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's pretty freaking cool, and I think that's the I
wouldn't say it's my goal, yeah, but I would love
to be able to just do this full time and
actually be able to do it full time. In the
sense of that's all I have to do. I still
have to work a full time job, but yet I
do this full time too.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
So it's yeah, it's one of those things.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm fortunate enough to have a partner too that has
a really good job and he, my husband, has allowed
me to kind of start my own businesses. And you
know too, so a lot of a lot of props
go to hit them for it. I got out the
medical field because of PTSD and also my back is
messed up in my knees and from lifting people for
twenty years and so, and then work in margency medicine

(05:19):
with PTSD, so how to do something different. So the
only other thing I'm really good at know is the paranormal.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So so when it comes to paranormal stuff, I am
not an expert on anything. When I say, there's really
no experts in any stuff, but my foray into it.
I'm more of a cryptied person myself. So that's what
fascinates me more like the paranormal stuff. Maybe for me
it's just and I don't want to say it doesn't

(05:48):
interest me, but it's it doesn't draw me in as much,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it doesn't have that
sort of I got to go out there and investigate
all this stuff. Like even with cryptids, I've never been
that way. It's just like, well, that's cool. I'm interested
in it, But I've never been one to want to
put boots on the ground and jump out in the

(06:09):
woods and go look for Bigfoot or something that's has
never been any it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I don't. I don't have that desire. I'd love
to give investigate locations for you know, ghosts and hauntings,
But to me, with the haunting stuff, it's it's a
lot about probably eighty percent history, and the twenty percent
is actually investigating in contacting, you know, trying to contact
those people that live that history. They talk recular to them.

(06:36):
So it's a lot about having a huge love for history.
And that's that's I mean, that's one of the main
that's the main reason we bought the historical location at Hopkinsville, Kentucky,
was not even for the hauntings. It was for the
the history because it's always been a residence and we
wanted to finally open it up after two hundred years
to the community because it has this vast history and
its interesting history and you know, it just happens to

(06:58):
be have paranormal activity. So to help pay the bills
and to renovate the place, you know, we rented out
for the paranormal stuff. I've never been one to want
to go out. I'm not a camper to begin with.
And that means that little fin tent is not going
to stop Bigfoot from dragging me out and eating me
or something, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So I say all that, but yet I'm in the
middle of doing a documentary or we're getting ready to
actually start filming our nighttime investigation that just bought all
the equipment to actually go out in the woods, me
and my friend. And we're a couple of metal guys,
like we are not outdoorsman, We're not anything like that.
We're not campers, We're not Yeah, so it's we're going

(07:36):
to be completely out of our element. So I have
no idea what we're doing. I have no idea what
to expect, but I know there's been a lot of
weird activity in this area and we're gonna go out
there and attempt to do something. There's a lot of
paranormal stuff out there too, So I bought a lot
of paranormals like a spirit box and some EMF meters
and some other things. So it's to try and see

(08:00):
what all we can actually potentially catch, if anything or nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
But yeah, yeah, but the funny, I mean, it sounds
like the fun narrative will be that you're you're both
kind of out of your element. That'll add you know
a little more. I guess entertainment in a way, you
know what I'm saying, Trying to see, trying to figure
out how to investigate and what you should do and
what works and what doesn't.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I used to watch all the shows and everything else,
but for me, I don't I'm not going to go
out there and do that. I'm not trying to go
out there and be Zach Megan or whatever because that's
just not my mentality of things. So I have my
own ideas of how things are going to go and
how I'm going to approach stuff, and we'll just see
if anything happens. But we're mainly going out there because

(08:41):
there's been so many reports of dog Man. Yeah, but
and there's been a lot of bigfoot stuff. So for me,
it's that's why I'm going out there. We'll see if
anything happens. But yeah, you'd mentioned Hopkinsville. I'd said this
before we started recording. I want to mention that because

(09:05):
there is a festival you've got set up for if
you want to talk about that real quick.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, I am the event coordinator for Goblin Con, the
UFO and Paranormal Expo coming in October October seventeenth and eighteenth.
And for anybody who's familiar with the Hopkinsville Goblin incident
or the Kelly Greenman incident, happened in nineteen fifty five
in a little town called Kelly, which is right outside
of Hopkinsville, and the spaceship landed on this farm, this

(09:32):
family farm, the Sutton family farm, and they were attacked
by these three foot tall little silver like gummetal gray
little men. So I don't know where they got the
green men from, but they call them. They looked like
goblins and with a big, big pointy ears, big heads,
with stringy arms and legs, and they attacked this family
for like five hours, and there finally was a break

(09:55):
in the action and this family was shooting out of
their house at these things, and these things are trying
to get in, and they kept them at bay and
they ended up getting a hold of the sheriff of
Christian County, Kentucky, and in the middle of the night
and he came out there and the things were gone
when he got out there, but he believed them because

(10:18):
he's like, you know, here's these poor people who shot
up out their own windows, you know, shot up their
own doors. They don't have the money to fix this stuff.
They have to fix it themselves. You know, this is
nineteen fifty five and they're just barely surviving on their
family farm. And so then he did kind of this investigation,
and other people were out there and the press got
a hold of it. Well, they all left and the

(10:39):
family tried to get some sleep because they've been up
all night fighting these things, and the things attacked again,
and then once the sun actually came up, the things
left for good. And so this is the This year's
the seventieth anniversary of the Hobbinsville Goblin incident, and it's
very well known in the UFO community, and you know,
happened right after roz Well and kind of brought attention

(11:03):
to the eastern side of the United States for the
UFO Flying Saucer stuff. And it a few days leading
up to the goblin incident. There are actually other people
who had seen flying saucer type craft in the area
and they were afraid to say anything until the Suttons
came forward with the goblins attacking them, and so there

(11:24):
were other sightings as well, but it was picked up
by a national press and run all over the country
newspapers and things. So we're going to celebrate that with
Geraldine Sutton, who is the granddaughter her grandmother's the one
that owned the farm, and her dad was on like
eighteen it happened, and he was there and her aunts
and uncles were like little kids, but she didn't hear

(11:44):
the story until she was eight years old from her
dad because their family just didn't talk about it and
they were afraid that the goblins would come back. And
they actually two weeks after the incident they sold the
farm and her grandma moved into Hopkins with an apartment
and so, but Geraldine's written three books so far on
it from her family's perspective, and she's interviewed her family

(12:05):
members who were there when it happened, and she goes
around the country talking it different expos and conventions about
the homs Garment incident. And so with it being her hometown,
it kind of the Kelly the little town of Kelly
used to do the Little Green Men Days every year
and then COVID kind of stopped it and they didn't
pick it back up, and so Visit Hawkinsville, which is

(12:28):
the tourist bureau for the city of Hopkinsville, decided to
do a big, a big seventy seventyth anniversary expo for it.
So I got hired as the event coordinator. And so
we got a two days of speakers and workshops and
all kind of cool stuff going on, and we'll have
over eighty vendors.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
M hmm. Yeah, I'm all my stuff done on your end,
so I'm supposed to be a vendor there too, So yeah,
you'll be You'll be one of our only podcasts.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, we kind of we want to kind of spread
it out because I've been to conventions and stuff that
that were all like paranormal teams or you know, there
are a bunch of paranormal teams, a bunch of podcasts,
and and you know, to draw the general public in,
you kind of want a variety of different things. So
we're kind of limiting you know, how many paranormal teams,

(13:22):
how many podcasts things like that, because we want vendors
there that are selling stuff, you know, paranormal theme stuff.
And we got some really cool vendors. I mean, there's
there's one called Monster Mashups. He's from Nashville and he
goes and buy it's like this boring artwork from like
the Goodwill and stuff, you know, but he paints like
cryptids and ghosts and stuff in these paintings and it
looks like they belong because he's a really good artist,

(13:42):
and then he resells them and so things like that.
We got somebody who crochets cryptids on foot and Mothman
and things like that. So just trying to get something
for everybody. We're actually gonna have an arcade room that
is free for everybody, can play arcade games, all different
arcade games, and like I said, we'll have workshops too,
So we're gonna have like ghost hunting one on one,
Crypto hunting one o one and things like that, so

(14:05):
people can actually come and learn as well, but also
give them the opportunity to ask questions and from people who
have been doing this for years, and make it more interactive.
Instead of just having a bunch of speakers talking at
people and try to make it a fun two days
where it's a lot of hands on stuff and and
people feel like they're getting, you know, value for their money,

(14:26):
and it's not just a bunch of you know, a
bunch of insider paranormal people. We want the general public
to come and have fun. And we decided to call
it Ufoone Paranormal Expo because we wanted to kind of
run the entire gamut of the paranormal. So it's not
just UFO people. We have crypto people that are gonna
be there talking about big Foot moll. Then we have
ghost people, you know, paranormal in from the hauntings side

(14:48):
of things. We got Pat Fitch who's gonna be a
speaker who he's basically the expert on the bell which legend.
So trying to have something a little bit of the
paranormal for everybody, because like you were talking about, like
you know, I'm I'm major into hauntings and ghosts, so
that kind of draws my attention and for you, you know,
the DECRYPTI stuff draws your attention, right, So I think
that's how the general public is as well, you know,

(15:10):
you'll have somebody who's huge at a big foot but
they don't care anything about ghost. So yeah, we're about
to have you. And I appreciate you seeing your application
and stuff in. It's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I interviewed Geraldine last summer and she actually reached out
to me about it and told me to get contact
with you. So that's how we kind of got hooked
up sometime last fall about it. But that story, the
the Sutton family incident has always been one of those

(15:43):
things that I've always been interested in, like the Kentucky
Goblin story and everything else. And I know, hell, you're
kind of repopulated the whole Goblin theme with Summerset and
everything else, but right for me, I always remember the
whole insects. I'm pretty sure this was also like one
of the Project Blue Books things where they actually came
out and investigated the area.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
The funny thing about that is that, yeah, the because
Hopkinsville butts right up to Fort Campbell, a big giant
army base where one hundred first Airborne and all that
is of station. And I mean Fort Campbell's like ten
minutes from from Hopkinsville and actually the main street that
runs through Hopkinsville was Fort Campble Boulevard. But so the
Army actually came and investigated. But unlike a lot of

(16:29):
the other stuff a Project blue Book where they put
out these explanations of you know, doctor Heineck put out
explanations of like swamp gases and things like that, the
Army never put out an explanation for anything. They never
they never said a word about it. So they never
they never came out in the press and debunked it
or said it didn't happen. They just never said anything

(16:50):
about it. But they did come out and investigate.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's strange to me that they investigated it for something
that was completely rolled off eventually as just people seen
owls or whatever that yeah, whatever the thing was that
they got all drunk and they were shooting owls and everything.
I was like, well, that's pretty pretty convenient story. I
guess that they don't know the difference between owls and

(17:14):
what they were describing.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
But yeah, and also there was a there was a
reporter who pulled who separated three of them, Jeraldine's grandma,
her dad, Lucky, and the friend that was there visiting
and had a sketch artist do sketches that each of
them described the goblins. And the crazy thing is you

(17:38):
can look it up online on Google just you can
find the images the sketches, but they are all looking very,
very similar. There's only subtle differences in the sketches that
they have the sketch artists do. And so that's hard,
you know, that's hard to do if you're lying, you know,
especially if you're describing something to a sketch artist.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
How do you get your stories straight?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know what I'm saying between three people where they
just got almost exactly the same thing, right, That's that's
pretty odd. And he said, I mean, these are country
people who hunt for their food. I mean, this is
nineteen fifty five on a farm in rural Kentucky. They're
going out hunting. They know what's in the woods, they
know owls look like, you know, and they know everything
in the woods. They know what everything sounds like and
all that stuff, you know.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
And so.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, I just kind of gave the cliff notes. But
the story's a whole lot more involved. I Mean, there
was a there was a spot where the air of
the craft landed on the farm where nothing would grow
not even grass for many many years.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Where it left marks.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So there is and I don't know that where this
is at, but there's supposedly a spot somewhere and it
wasn't I've heard this before and again I'm just trying
to remember and I don't know, but there was another
spot where they supposedly had an incident before and the
ground is the same thing. There's a spot in the
ground where nothing would grow afterwards. Yeah, and I think

(18:58):
they've even like they checked it with like a geigameter
or something and it come back at one point saying
there's like traces of radiation.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
And I feel like this was up around Washington State.
And I can't think of the exactly. Oh, I know,
I know what you're talking about. Are you trying Is
it the acorn, the one that was shaped like an acorn?

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well, I don't know if it was that one.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
This was just some markings that they found out it
was around like this was like a there was a
sighting or whatever. They found the strange like marking out somewhere.
And again, it could be a complete bullshit story.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I just this is just something I was I've seen
I've seen the photos or whatever, but it's from the internet.
Who never really knows. I've been out there to see
it myself, so take of that was a grain of salt.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
But yeah, there's been some other reports, I think like
the Renaissan forest over in England where those craft landed.
Uh they afterwards there was still residual radiation and I
forget what they called it. This is up in New
England area, but there was an acorn craft that crashed
at the military supposedly recovered, but it was shaped like

(20:02):
an acorn and where it crashed they had for years
that you can measure the the radiation with the Gager count.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
That is h one of the It's not like the
UFO and alien stuff too, like I'm interested in all
of it. But yeah, yeah, the UFO aspect of things,
I feel like if I had a chance to actually
go out and look for stuff, like obviously you look
up in the sky CUFO, but like the areas where

(20:34):
people see these UFOs, I would like to go and see.
If someone said they saw something towards the ground, I
would be the person actually want to go investigate that
area of the ground and check to see if there's
any sorts of trace evidence of anything actually being around.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
There, right right, But that's just me. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
After talking to so many people on the podcast and
and doing this for so many years, it seems like
it's all connected somehow, not that we'll ever figure it out,
but between hauntings and and Bigfoot and you know, all
the cryptids and UFOs, somehow it's all whether it's you know,
different dimensions or or what, but somehow it's all connected.

(21:18):
Times when you get a lot of UFO UAP sightings,
there's a lot of activity with Bigfoot and Dogmen, and
they're in the same area because that's where you know,
that's where we get these different triangles from the Bridgewater
Triangle and the Alaskan Triangle and things like that. So
that's I think that's interesting. I mean, you you've even
got some crypti people out there that think that, you know,
dog Man and Bigfoot come from UFOs, right, So yeah,

(21:40):
it's it's it all seems connected.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
In some way. That is why beyond us, just out
of our reach.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That is why I'm calling my documentary the Mississinewa Triangle
because literally there's been plenty of UFO paranormal ENCRYPTID sidings
in this small area around the miss Cinewa River and reservoir.
So when you I mapped this out around my area,
I was like, I've started plotting points on a board.
You can see from where this happened, if this happened,

(22:08):
and like you actually start drawing lines, which again, the
triangle thing is kind of a trendy thing, but it
works and it does map out to be it is there.
But if you can, you can expand at the triangle,
like just around this area, but there's more things around
here too. It's not just in that vicinity, but there
are so many incidents and reports all within this little

(22:29):
triangular area that I made. Yeah, so it's it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Another thing I find interesting is a lot of those
areas as well. If you go back and look at
the Native Americans that were settled in those areas, those
areas send to be sacred like or you have mounds
or something, you know, some kind of sacred thing for
the Native Americans in those same areas, And.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
In two weeks were actually taking one of the actual
original well he's a part of the tribe, he's not
one of the original ones from yours, yet this area
are back in eighteen twelve, they the Army came in
and made all of the Miami Indian Nation move now
on the Trail of Tears, and if they didn't leave,

(23:13):
they were basically executed. So this whole area has a
lot of bad juju just from that. Yeah, and there's
all sorts of different tribes around here. There is a Delaware,
the Miami, the Podolotomy, There's all sorts of ones and
they're all right around this small little area where the
couple of rivers connected. So there's just a lot of
weird activity around here.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Hawkinsville is similar with that because you have Limb between
the Lakes, which is not very far from Hawkinsville, which
is a hotbed of bigfoot in dog men, especially dog
man activity, and right through in the middle of Hawkinsville
is a National Park for the Trail of Tears and
there's actually i think the three or four chiefs buried

(23:58):
on that property and you can go to have a
museum and you can go and walk the trail and stuff.
But the Trail of Tears were right through there, and
so it kind of checks all those boxes too. In
that area of Kentucky and like you were talking about earlier, Hell,
you're kind of you know, mad. The goblins in eastern
Kentucky kind of famous, you know, and all this weird

(24:19):
high strain that's there, but Western Kentucky's just as strange.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, there's I interviewed someone one of my first podcast interviews,
and he was down I believe in southern Indiana. But
he was talking about being on a walk and they
were by this thing. He was by a cemetery and
they were walking and they've seen something and he kept
calling a gollum that looked like gollum, and I was
thinking about it. I was like, what you're describing sounds

(24:46):
like a Kentucky goblin because he's like a little short
and humanoid thing crawling around. It almost sounds either like
a pale crawler or impossible. Kentucky got sighting like this
was like three years ago at this point, But to me,
it's there's a lot of similarities to some of these things.

(25:09):
So I've often wondered, like if people report seeing and
I know, the rake's a creepy pasta thing, but I
get people saying they've seen a rake. I was like, well,
maybe the rake was influenced from the pale Crawler because
you had stories about a dover demon which kind of
was similar looking, and then you had the original Native
American depictions of Windo Goes or a pale humanoid type thing.

(25:32):
They didn't have the horns and everything, like we mastardized
it for modern purposes, right, But when you start to
look into things like this, like maybe when people are
saying they've seen these weird small human like goblin looking
creatures and these crawlers, like maybe they're all seeing something
very similar that what the Native Americans were talking about

(25:53):
hundreds of years ago.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, I know, I know a couple of guys who
grew up on the reservation out in Montana, I believe,
and I had them on the show and their brothers,
and they talk about the medicine and medicine, and their
tribe is magic, but they still talk about little people.
And they've told they told me several stories about their

(26:16):
dad uh seeing people that were doing kind of bad magic,
bad medicine that would conjured these were not necessarily conjured,
but bring these little people up and they would give
them offerings and things. And there was one time that
they went out with I think it was one of
their friend's sisters and they were out on the reservation
and they had her. She had them stop next to
the field and she went out in the field and

(26:38):
they saw her interacting with this little little creature and
she was like giving them cigarettes and stuff like you're offering.
And so the Native tribes still talk about some of
them still are seeing those things and still talking about them.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
So I found that pretty fascinating.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think it's Montana's where they live, but they have
a podcast that they do that they they talk about
a lot of that stuff. But it's pretty interesting because
they're full blooded, you know, they were raising the reservation
and so to talk about all this stuff I just
find fascinating. I'm Native American, but I was never I've
never been raising the reservation or you know, even affiliated

(27:15):
with the with the Cherokee. But three of my grandparents
out of four were full blooded Cherokee. So I find
all that ancestry fascinating. With all those stories and the
fact that some of them are still you know, the
reservation is still seeing these things and telling these stories.
They're not just a folklore to them, you.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Know, right.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I actually have a couple of interviews lined up here
in the next few weeks. I'm priorly after reschedule because
I realized that I'm not gonna be able to do
the one on the scheduled time. But he's was a
This was a Native American from out west, and he's
had a lot of run ends with what he said,
bigfoot and dog man like creatures. So I'm really interested

(28:02):
to hear more about that because I don't get a
chance to talk to too many of the actual tribe
people from the reservations and stuff. Yeah, so there's a
lot of stories that I'd like to hear just because
And I don't know if it's just because of how
cultural things are, but like, I feel like there's a
lot of stories and stuff that doesn't get actually told

(28:23):
to a lot of people because a lot of the
stuff that happens on the reservations they kind of keep
it to themselves.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I had an awesome guest last year. He's one of
the paranormal rangers from the Navajo tribe and he wrote
a book. His name is Stanley Mill Virginior, and him
and his partner were Navajo rangers and so they were
tasked with basically traveling the twenty seven thousand square mile
Navajo Reservation, and their boss put them in charge of

(28:53):
anything paranormal. So for twenty years they went around and
investigated anything paranormal, from from skinwalker's to bigfoot, to hauntings
to all of that, because skin walkers are a Navajo thing,
and he told the story of my show about he
didn't believe in He didn't believe in skinwalkers because he

(29:15):
spent half his time with his mother in Oklahoma, off
the reservation, and then in the summer he would go
stay with his dad and his grandparents on the reservation,
and so he was kind of had one foot in
the Western world, one foot in the in the tribe
and the reservation, and so he didn't necessarily believe in
skinwalkers until he saw one himself on the reservation before

(29:36):
he became a Naha ranger, and then he had all
these other experiences that kind of proved to him that
they were a real thing. And he's got some incredible
story in his book. His book's amazing, But him and
his partner have been on Skinwalker Ranch and.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
A bunch of those other shows.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
They were actually on the third season of The New
Unsolved Mysteries talking about one of their cases. But those
two guys are in credible, uh to, And it's fascinating
to listen to the stories.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
All right, So I think I actually watched that episode
from the one of the recent unsolved mysteries. But is
there anything in particular that you've experienced that you'd want
to talk about tonight.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
I've experienced so much stuff. I've had a paranormal life, right, So.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
That's what it's hard for people to pinpoint. I was like, well,
whatever comes to mind, like whatever sticks out.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, I had my first My first experience with a
ghost was when I was eight. I actually I was.
I was a weird kid anyway, because I was the
kid that had all the alien posters on the walls.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
And you know.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
When the book fair came to school, I was looking
for the paranormal books. And but when I was eight,
I was asleep and I most you know, most kids
like a night light, like the door open. I never did.
I like my door shut. I still sleep with the
door shut. I just feel more comfortable that way. And
uh so I set up about I don't know, it
was still dark play through or four in the morning.

(31:02):
I sat straight up in the bed and looked at
the door and my door was open, wide open, and
there was a glowing lady stood in the door. And
at eight years old, it scared me. So I jumped
up and flip the light on, and of course she
was gone. And that was kind of my first like
in your face experience that I ever experienced. And then
my mom was extremely She pass away in two thousand

(31:23):
and nine, but she was extremely She was a crazy
impath and me and her had a connection that was insane.
I would come home from school excited about something, and
she would tell me before I could tell her. And
this was things that she It's not like a school
called and told her things, you know what I'm saying.
These were not anything like that, not anything major that
they would have called and told her. But things like

(31:45):
that just throughout my life and just some of the
experiences that I've had, I mean even going out when
I investigated when I was a teenager, and me and
my friends would sneak into this the Civil War plantation.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
We had a.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Old video recorder that took VHS tapes, and we had
a horset recorder that took little mini cassette tapes and
that's all we had, and we'd sneak onto the property
and we just experienced some incredible things. One of my
first experiences on that property was it was dark in night.
There's nobody there. I mean, this is three four o'clock
in the morning, five in the morning. It's so dark,

(32:24):
and we're walking around the house. And we never bothered anything.
We were there to vandalize or and we were trespassing.
We shouldn't have been, but we never heard anything. But
I saw a woman in the window of the house,
Checkstead pulled the curtains back and stuck her head in
the window like she was looking to see who was
on our front lawn. And there's nobody at the house.

(32:46):
Somebody in the house, you know. And then one time
we were walking back across the field, this huge field
that went or we snunck onto the property was actually
a golf course right next to the property. We would
park at the clubhouse and we would hop over the
cemetery fence onto the property and you had to walk
across this big field it's probably, I don't know, a
football field in the half long before you get to

(33:08):
the house.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
And they hadn't moted it.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
And while I was probably about knee deep, and two
of my friends are about ten foot behind me, and
we're walking back across the field to leave. The sun's
starting to come up, and we hear this horse. We
hear a horse galloping and the sound of a horse
winning to our left, and they're commenting like, are you
hearing that, Eric?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
And I'm like, yeah, how you' all hearing that?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like that's crazy because there's no horses around there and
definitely not close enough to hear them, you know, their
feet hitting the ground, And all of a sudden, this breeze,
cold breeze went through me and out the other side,
and on my right side in a straight line. The
grass was moving and you heard the horse of gallop

(33:49):
and just kind of fed it off, and my friends
come running up. It's like, did that just run through you?
I was like, I guess, you know, it just I
was in its way, I guess. And so it was
like this cold static almost like you know when your
hair stands on end from static electricity, you know in

(34:09):
the wintertime, when your socks on the carpet or whatever.
Kind of like that feeling, but like really cold at
the same time as a weird experience. And it's the
only thing I can say is I had a ghost
horse run through me on this you know, part of
this battlefield was in Franklin, Tennessee. In the Battle of Franklin,
they called the five Bloodiest Hours of the Civil War,
so many men died in five hours. But that place

(34:31):
in the toryst that haunted. But that was that was
a crazy experience there. Working in medicine one of the
incredible experiences that I had. I started out working as
a nurse tech in nursing homes and the nurse something
that I worked at, I worked night shift on the
Alzheimer's lockdown unit, so you had to have a code
to open the doors and stuff to get it out

(34:51):
of there so they couldn't wonder you know, the patients
couldn't wonder off because they had memory issues. And that
part of the building that I worked in was the
oldest part of this nursing home and it had this
wing of the building had always been a nursing home.
It had about twenty five rooms and when it was
built in the nineteen forties, it was built to be
a nursing home and then they had just added on
a modern building to make it a lot bigger. And

(35:14):
one night, my partner who was another nurse tech, and
the nurse that was with this LPN. It was just
the three of us as far as staff. They went
to lunch and I was on the floor by myself
and all the patients are in bed, their lights are off.
It's kind of like a horror movie. There's only like
a couple of fluorescent lights on, you know, down the
hallway right. And we did rounds every fifteen minutes just

(35:37):
to check on our patients, make sure everybody's in the bed,
because we had a lot of fall risk people who
if they got out of the bed that they would
fall and hurt themselves. And so I was starting to
do my round while they were at lunch and I
get to the tea in the hallway and I look
left and there's a really tall, skinny man, younger guy
standing at the end of the hallway and he was
kind of back lipped by the double doors at the
end had windows in him, and that was the parking

(35:59):
lot outside that had lights, and he was backlit. And
he was probably I don't know, six foot five, really
thin but younger looking guy, and he was in an
all black suit, and he looked at me. I looked
at him, and he turned to his left and went
into patient room, the very last patient room on the left.

(36:19):
And I'm like, you know, the should have many visitors.
Is like three or four o'clock in the morning, and
this always things always happened to me at three or
four in the morning. This is a theme throughout my life.
And so I walked down there because I'm like, there's
not supposed to be anybody here. And I go in
there and there's just the patients in the bed, four women.
There's two beds on each side of the room, and
there's no way there. I come in the next night

(36:44):
and one of the patients in that room had died
unexpectedly about thirty minutes after I left that morning. And
so I've always called that the angel of Death because
I don't know how to sub describe it, you know,
But it was just it was interesting that same nurse
thing home. Whenever you walk into the rooms at night
when it was dark, there was a light that stayed

(37:05):
on in the bathroom, and the bathroom was directly across
from the door, and we would push the wheelchairs and
stuff into the bathroom at night so when we're walking
around the dark, we're not tripping over them. And several
times I'd walk into rooms and it looked like somebody
was sitting in the wheelchair. You could see the head
and shoulder outline with the night light backlighting them. And
then you turn on the light. There was no wing there.

(37:27):
Heard footsteps, had footsteps walk behind me several times. That
place was just crazy haunted. But you know, been in
a nurse home since the forties, and this was early
two thousands when I worked there. You know, you're looking
at sixty years of a nursing home where people go
to die, you know. So we had a lady tool.

(37:49):
She was pretty far gone. She was like in state
of Alzheimer's, and you couldn't really have a conversation with her.
You had to she had to be fed and wear
a diaper and all that stuff, and but she would
start yelling about the man in the corner. And whenever
she yelled about the man in the corner, it was
just understood by the people who had worked there longer.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Than I did.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
And I found this out that somebody was gonna die
on that wing, and I, like clockwork. Within a couple
of days somebody would die and she would come back down,
wouldn't talk about the man in the corner again till
it happened again, and so crazy things like that, and
then own it. Now owning a Honda location, I have

(38:29):
stuff happened all the time. I mean the middle of
the day of being in the nighthouse in Hopkinsville, and
I hear voices and you know, see things out of
the corner of my eye all the time, and knocks
and all kinds of weird stuff. What made you want
to become the owner of a place like though? Just
because of all your experiences as you've had. It's just

(38:50):
something that you've wanted to do. Yeah, And it was
more about the history of looking for a historical location
and the thing that kind of that was. I was
talking to my buddy Austin one night on the phone
and we were talking about we filmed a few short
documentaries together and we investigated together. So we were talking

(39:11):
about one of the documentaries we were working on, and
we happen to get on talking about one day owning
our own location and you know, do long term study
on it as you can do experiments and things like that,
you know, because you're in control of the environment things,
and because our approach is kind of as scientific as
we can be, and we try to debunk everything we can.

(39:33):
So if it's you know, if you can explain it anyway,
we just throw it out. It's not evidence. And Facebook
has a way of listening to you. So while I'm
talking to him on the phone, it pops up on
Facebook this it suggests this group that I should joining
called his Old Houses one hundred thousand Dollars and Beyond.

(39:53):
So I started looking through this, and they have a
companion website and all the houses they post are old
houses that are for sale that are around one hundred
thousand dollars to buy them. And I get going looking
through all these old houses, and there's some incredible houses,
I mean all across the country that have these incredible histories,

(40:16):
and they're just if somebody doesn't buy them and fix
them up, the history is gonna be lost and they're
gonna be torn down. And so that kind of seeing
how cheap they were to begin with. I talk to
my husband, who's the financial person for see, he does
all of our.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Bills and stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I got him on board and I said, you know
what if we we find a location, especially one that
hasn't had its history shared. And you know, if it
is haunted, then we can kind of use that income
as well, you know, to help fix it up and
pay for the place.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
And uh, definitely not.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
You know, it's not an idea of a get rich
quick or anything like that or you know, try to
make money. All the money we make off the Nighthouse
goes right back into it. But the Nighthouse is one
of the places that we looked at and it for
it's the oldest still standing structure. It's the oldest structure
still standing in Hopkinsville and in Christian County, Kentucky. The
house is built in eighteen fifteen, between eighteen fifteen and

(41:14):
eighteen twenty, and for two hundred and ten years it's
been a residence. It's never been open to the public.
You know, it's the oldest building in town. Uh. And
so we found out that a lot of people in
town were interested in the house, for one because they'd
never been inside it. And it's a massive mansion with
these big, giant two story columns, you know, and this

(41:36):
beautiful house, and it's fifty six hundred square feet, it's
six different levels, and it was called the nighthouse. And
one of my criteria that I told Roger said, if
the house has a name, if somebody has named it,
it probably has an extensive history, or the family who

(41:56):
lived there had an extensive history. So before we bought it,
I do into the Knight family and learned a lot
about them and how they kind of helped shape Hawkinsville
in the mid eighteen hundreds into kind of what it
is today the size of town, and helped it be
successful and things like that. And they were very interesting
people too, and they lived there for eighty five years,

(42:20):
their family did, and so you know, eighty five of
two hundred years. And then the next family that bought it,
the Rogers family, bought it in nineteen forties and they
lived there for sixty five years until the whom fourteen.
So you have two families who have taken up the
majority history of this house. And the other thing that
found very interesting was that every pretty much ninety percent

(42:41):
of the males that lived in this house throughout its
history have all been lawyers. So every family has had
a lawyer in it. The Knights, they were all lawyers,
all the sons and the dad was lawyers.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
JB.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Knight was a lawyer, but they were real estate moguls.
The Rogers family. The dad and the son were both lawyers.
The dad that bought it, w Rogers Junior, he was
an attorney and then his son ended up becoming the
Attorney General for Kentucky. So it's interesting how that that
whole theme played out through all the different families that

(43:16):
owned it. You know, all the all the men that
were heads of the household were all lawyers, and so
it just has this extensive and interesting history. And so
the history is what caught me. Uh it's it's haunted
to boot basically, you know what I'm saying that the
haunting is a bonus, right because I think it's very
special to be able to connect to those people that
I'm learning about in the history of the house and

(43:37):
to possibly be connecting with them and to have them
answer questions for me through EVPs and things, instead of
it just coming from a newspaper article or a second
hand tel or something like that. So it was it
was more of the history of the place and also
saving the house because somebody it sits on three acres,
somebody could in the middle of town, a contractor could

(43:59):
have very easily bought the house, torn it down and
built three houses on the three acred lot, and you know,
made their money and went on about their business. And
then you lose one of the oldest houses in Kentucky
still standing and the oldest house, you know, the oldest
structure in Christian County still standing, and you lose all
that history. Also, the Knight family, their story's not really
been told to the general public in Hopkins, but people

(44:21):
are interested in it, and so I think it just
become my duty to tell their story and to get
their story out there and honor them and their legacy.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Now what do you do? What's the building now? Do
you have it open for people to want to come
in and do investigations?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
So yeah, we do.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
We do history tours Friday, Saturdays and Sundays, and then
it is open for investigations to be rented out. And
we have different tiers of investigations. We have one that's
seven to midnight that's one hundred and fifty bucks, and
then we have seven pm to three am, so a
half night that is two hundred fifty dollars, and then
four hundred dollars. You can come and stay the entire

(45:01):
night from eight pm to eight am and actually sleep
in the beds and they investigate all night if you want.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
There's a place around here that I cannot mention on air,
but it's kind of similar, just because they don't want
the information to be out to the public, so you
kind of have to know someone to get in there.
But I've been there, and I know a lot of
people that's been there and had weird experiences. I've only

(45:28):
been there like the one time a couple months back,
and I didn't really have anything going on. But I'm
not saying there's nothing that happens there. There's some Yeah,
we heard some random noises, but I'm not saying that's paranormal, right,
But it's one of those things like I'm not an
active investigator, but I have an interest in it. My

(45:49):
biggest thing is I'm got some kind of a puss
and I just don't want to bring anything home with me.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Now, we they I the spirits that we have, the
intelligent experience that we have, that I believe we have
the nighthouse.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I think they're not stuck.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
They're there because they want to be there, because they
love the house, you know, And that's why the two
families you know, lived there for so long, the eighty
five years with the Knights and sixty five years with
the Rogers, because they have a love of this house
and the history of the house, and so I think
that's why there are still a few of them are
still there, and I think some of the others pop in,

(46:26):
some of the other members maybe pop in every once
in a while and talk to people. But we've had
some Most of the teams that have come in have
had pretty incredible experiences and interactions. Is there anything else
that stands out that you would like to discuss before
we wrap the swamp? No. I just think the book

(46:48):
is kind of the thing I got going on right
now that in Goblin Con. With the book, I kind
of wrote it like a reference book. It kind of
a throwback to do obled coffee table bathroom book before
we had cell phones, you know, to keep our attention
in the bathroom, right. Yeah. Because of the table contents,
you can jump around from little town to little town
in Tennessee. And some of the stories are you can

(47:10):
read in thirty seconds. Some of them take five minutes,
you know, and so it's something that you can just
jump around. You don't have to read it in a
linear fashion, you know, from beginning to end, and it's
in different sections. So like the very first section, the
first fifty pages is the Legends of Tennessee, from Bigfoot
to Catzilla, which is a giant catfish, to the wampus

(47:31):
cat where we get the term cattywampus from. And then
it goes east West Tennessee, Middle Tennessee, and East Tennessee.
And there's a it's about probably seventy percent history thirty
percent of stories, And so I wanted to write it
that way so people can just jump around and enjoy
the book whenever they have five minutes to sit down
and read it or they have an hour, you know,
and and read about some legends and hear some stories

(47:55):
of places, not just the hauntings, but also the history
of some of these inner places that people don't really
know about, even coming from Tennessee. And so I'm going
to continue the series. The next one will be small
Town Homes Ledges of Kentucky, because there's a Kentucky's interesting,
like we've been talking about. Uh, but yeah, I'm a

(48:15):
Middle Tennessee and I'll be a Tennessee and uh, the
Nighthouse we get asked all the time if we're going
to live there. Now, we don't live there. I stay
there when we have teams in the house, but other
than that, we're not going to live there. It's a
historic house and we tend to want to keep it
that way with anybody living there. But yeah, the book,
If anybody wants to grab a copy of the book,
it's available on Amazon right now. It's free on ken

(48:38):
On Unlimited if you have kend On Unlimited, but it's
available in hardback, aperback Kendall and then kend On ulimited.
And I've got some book signings coming up, and one
here in my little small town outside Nashville at the
public library and April, and then I'll be out at
the historic Scott County Jail in East Tennessee in May.
You doing a book signing out there at a that's

(49:00):
an awesome location, and a couple of my friends own and
they're going to carry the book in their gift shop
and things. So I'm just kind of pushing the book
and we're fixing the get hit Goblin Con really hard
here soon and announce all the speakers and a lot
of our vendors and things. So get that going and
start up, and tickets for Goblin Con go on selling August,

(49:22):
but tickets will be ten dollars in advance and then
fifteen dollars at the door for each day. And then
we'll have VIP passes available that's going to include a
VIP dinner, VIP meet and greet, and then also the
VIP ticket will include a public ghost Son, not a
public ghot Son, but a private ghosign at the Nighthouse
that Saturday night, So kind of end the weekend with that.

(49:42):
But yeah, and people can go check out Goblin Con
at goblin con ky dot com.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Sorry, so much stuff in my head. I will definitely
be promoting that. I've got a lot of stuff coming
up this year too, and I'm actually gonna be in
Tennessee on May third, which honestly, I think by the
time this airs, it should be right around that timeframe,
so it might be a little afterwards or i might

(50:14):
have to move things up to but I'll be at
the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Festival. I'm kind of looking forward
to that.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
That's cool. I will be out that way.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
The following May seventeenth is when I'll be at scott
Kinny of Jail in that week before that, I'll be
in Gatlinburg actually, so I'll be out that way in
that part of Tennessee. And in the end of Yeah,
it's a Goblin conky dot com for the Goblin Con
stuff and people can go in there and look. Now
there's a lot of stuff about the Kelly Green and
the Hobbinsville Goblin and stuff.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
A couple of videos I made on their teaser videos.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
And then people noticed in the Nighthouse can go to
the nighthouse ky dot com and night spelled Kate n ighd.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Whatever links you have, send them to me and I
will make sure to include them in the show notes. Okay, yeah,
we'll do No. The end of May, I'm actually gonna
be in Kentucky. I think is actually not too far
from there I'm going to be and I think it's Stanton, Kentucky. Stanton, Kentucky.
It's a kind of I think down by Lexington area.

(51:19):
But the Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival. Yeah, so there's
that going on there too, So yeah, I've heard about
that one. There's a lot of I've looked at. I've
got like ten different events this year. So I'm gonna be
in Kentucky quite a bit and only in Tennessee once
and then Illinois and a couple of India. But this

(51:41):
is my first year of actually going to a lot
of different events. I've done a couple here and there,
but this is my summer and fall of trying to
hit all these mins ups. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, I've got a lot of local stuff going on
between Hawkinsville and Middle Tennessee. So last year I kind
of hit the convention circuit pretty hard and went to
a bunch of different ones and had boots and things.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
But this year kind of select ones.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
I gotta kind of stick towards home because of all
the stuff going on at the Nighthouse.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
So now I.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Don't know if I'm gonna do it very much. I'm
just gonna see how this year plays out. But I
just wanted to hit some of these events up see
how it goes. And being a podcast, it's it's more
or less just kind of going out in networking. Yeah,
I have some shirts and I have some other things,
but I mean there's not really unless someone asked me

(52:36):
to be a speaker about certain things, and yeah, I
can do some talking. I've done it last year, but
it's not really I don't really have a whole lot
to go out there and do you.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I'm just kind of sitting there and maybe meet some people,
get some new listeners, or see some people that actually
listen to the show.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I know. I just recently talked.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
To someone who I met at one of the festivals
I that, so we had an interview. Well, it's it's
kind of cool to go out there and potentially find
someone that actually wants to be on the show.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I did a lot of that with the convintions that
I hit up and was part of, and that big thing,
I mean, because I did it with my podcast. And
the big thing was, you know, the people who are
fans of your show like to come out and meet you,
and you're in the kind of area closer to them,
and that's always fun. And then people like to talk
to you, you know, pick your brain about the paranormal,

(53:29):
you know, because especially if you have a show that
you talk about kind of all the different paranormal stuff,
you know, they like to kind of pick your brain.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
They'll come up.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
The biggest thing I always give is they come up
and say I don't believe in ghosts.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
But here's my ghost story, you know, the type of thing.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
So that's pretty interesting to hear other people's stories and
then they want to know my opinion, you know what
I think.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Yeah, the convintion thing is fun. It's not at the
top of my to do list.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I'd rather have events at the Nighthouse and and things
like that and do local events and kind of traveled around.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
So I'm not much for the traveling part. It's fun,
I guess here and there, But the weekend of October,
I'm literally doing something every single weekend.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, so I look forward to it, but at the
same time, I'm kind of like, man, that's a lot
of driving.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, September October is always busy, and I look forward
to it because I like to be busy, i know,
like all the different events and things. But yeah, when
it's over, I'm glad. In November, I'm like, I'm not
doing anything the whole month in November.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I've got christ and Cohn in November and that's the
last thing I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll need a break after Goblin Con at
the end of October. So because it's a whole year
of planning, so you know, be dealing with that, so
I'll be glad to see it. I'll be happy to
you know, be there running everything and see all the
speakers and stuff. I'll be happy when it's over too,
so because I'll be a moderator for the some of

(54:55):
the panels and things too, so I'll be up on
stage and everybody else and Hopper kind of running the show.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I'm definitely looking forward to being there, and I hope
it's a great turnout. And for anyone listening, if you're
in the area, oruld like to go. I highly recommend it.
Come out, stop buying my booth, say hello or flip
me the finger, whatever you feel like to do.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
And here soon on the on the galvin Kin website,
we'll have we're working with some of the hotels in
Hopkinsville to do some specials for people coming from out
of town that want to stay in town.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
So well, that'll definitely be something I hit up. So
I'm pretty sure my wife and I will be coming down.
I don't know if I don't know if she'll be
attending with me or not. I always plan on her
at least coming with me, but sometimes we have kids,
so it's hard to leave the kids at home less
we can't find a sitter for him.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice to meet you in
person too, man. Yeah, looking forward to ye.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Well again for anyone listening. How you have a podcast too?
Are last? I saw something about it. I don't know
if you're still doing your show.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I've kind of wound it down. I did it for
almost five years and one hundred and seventy guests, and
I've kind of it's kind of played out for me.
Just it's harder to find guests and things like that,
and also my attention is kind of gone in different direction.
But all the episodes are still out for people to
listen to you. They can still listen to it on Spotify, Apple,
anywhere you can find podcasts for music, The Unseen Paranimal podcast.

(56:24):
I may spractically be putting out episodes and I may
pick it back up in the future. Right now, it's
kind of on. It's gonna be on hiatus for a while.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I get to that point to where I'm almost burnt out.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah, I have a lot of things scheduled for the
next couple of months, but my goal is to try
and take at least a month in the summertime off
that way, I can just kind of wind down and
just have some family time. No time to do this,
cause again, I work a full time job and then
I'm out here doing like three to four interviews a week. Yeah,

(57:00):
and then you have all the editing and everything, like
you understand, Like, so there's so much that goes into it,
and people just.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
It's and then advertising media and all that stuff trying
to get out there and people listen. Yeah, it's a
it's a full time job, you know, it really is.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I never thought it was going to be what it's
turned into, but it's gotten to the point to where
it pays for itself and yeah, it does what it's
supposed to do. So I was like, people are listening,
that's great. Yeah, well man, it's been a pleasure talking
to you.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Yeah, thanks for having on bro. Good to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
If you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tells,
remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tells podcast at
gmail dot com or go to tenfoil Tales dot com
and go to the contact section. Make sure to follow
me around on all the social medias, and just remember
truth comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay
the price?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Her story late last night about something alert along the world, lunch,
huge foot princh, strange lights in the sky. They claim
it's nothing, but I know they lie. It sees your
laughing to laugh in my face. But something about this

(58:16):
makes me say, what if it's real?

Speaker 4 (58:19):
What if they knew?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores,
wasting my time? Hearing boy? It says, is it all
in their minds? They can call me crazy, but I
just want some from What if it's true? What if
it's really?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
What if it's true?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
What if the worlds not what we knew?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Jim for tell, blend me a story that starts where
the line is is what if it's real? If it's true?
The answer are waiting.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
They're waiting for you.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
They see if the dog man walking, or maybe am
offman flies. I love the very giants hidden beneath the lies.
They say it's just stories, it's all they believe, the
fairy tale sport, the things we can't perceive. They won't
keep us blindly.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
They won't break our wheel.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
But I'm not buying it.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I'm not swowing another pill, forest fed poison. The lies
were made to thee.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
What if the truth could set us free?

Speaker 1 (59:34):
The alien Sudals traveling through time, secret space programs are
racing their minds.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.
What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
What if it's real? What if it's true?

Speaker 4 (59:52):
What if the worlds not what we knew?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Till Foil tells fully me a story that starts where
the logic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Is what if it's read?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Or what if it's true? The ancers are waiting, They're
weighed in for you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
They lie, we all been die.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
The signs are there if you open your eyes. The
aliens cricked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Its demon's ghost.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
The depul them too. What if it's me?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Or what if it What if it's raid?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
What if it's true? What if the world's not? What
way to do?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
And Foil tells fully me a story that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Starts where the logic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
What if it's rain?

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
What if that's true? The cancers are waiting, They're weighing
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
It's all in our heads, it's all in our binders.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
These voices can be silenced.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
The truth must we temple tails.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
It's pulling me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
What if it's reading? What if it's true
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