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Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales! On this episode I am joined by my guest Angel, and her paranormal team that calls themselves Backwoods Kentucky Ghost Hunters andhere here to share some of their experiences within the paranormal world.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy
of the cult is one of the things that turned
me away the quickest.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
looked at us.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
And one of the things I remember the most, where
the eyes were going red.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
I see an orb of light.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
It is just circling these steps like it is waiting
for me.

Speaker 7 (00:41):
And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

Speaker 8 (00:45):
They're basically like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw.

Speaker 7 (00:55):
The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes as
soon as I made eye contact with this thing and
don't wake Death.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Tonight,
we are joined by several guests. First, as Angel, let's say,
you've also got two gentlemen with you, Timmy and Dwayne.
Thanks for coming on here tonight and join with me.
Before we get into it, though, would you guys like
to let the audience know a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
My name is Timmy. I'm one of the co founders
of Blackwood Kentucky ghost Hunters Law with my wife Grace
Kennison or Angel Kennison, and we have a group here
in Orangsboro, Kentucky. We have a hot location that we
rent out and stuff at three LL nine Hill Avenue.

(01:50):
We have people coming all the time. Grace has been
been a paranormal investigator since two thousand and nine, Me
around twenty or so, and Dwayne wherever.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
I've been doing eight well with y'all.

Speaker 9 (02:10):
Yeah, I've been with y'all several years.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
What got you guys into the whole paranormal aspect?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Actually I started doing it with us and then I
got him going into it. Had me and a neighbor
used to do it together.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Was there something that got you interested in the whole phenomenon?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Oh? Yeah. For me, I've seen some stuff and then
I just want I was curious to see what else
was out there. So that's basically with me.

Speaker 9 (02:39):
Yeah, that statement here, it's just early age, you know,
having with what I thought was experiences and stuff, and
then I was just kind of curious on what really
was out there was afterwards, you know, if they get
there is right.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I feel like someone always usually has some sort of
an experience or something that peaks are bringing two wanting
to look into further into these type of topics, these
type of activity. It's for me personally, it's uh. I
try and remain skeptical a lot of the time, so

(03:15):
I don't necessarily go out and look for this type
of stuff. But I know a lot of people to do. Sorry,
from just from the people that I've talked to, there's
always been usually something that sets a whole situation up
for him. Is there anything, uh, from the stuff that
you've guys have experienced you'd like to share.

Speaker 9 (03:38):
Well, I know in l City, we used to investigate
a hospital several times, and every time we went, we
always got something from there quite a bit. And I
don't know, it's just a lot of times you go
places and you don't get stuff, but you know that's
part of it.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
But it's it's fascinating.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
I mean, I try to look at it as like
with the orbs and stuff. It could be dust and
all that, but sometimes you can't explain some of the
stuff it does so how it reacts things.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And well, right, no, I understand what about the rest
of you guys.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Up here, We're we're really sparke, But I guess. We've
moved here since.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Three years now, three years in July.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
And when we moved in here, we didn't know what
was on it at the time, but as soon as
we came here, things start happening.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
And so.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, do you have a lot of experiences here. One
of them's David and he, you know, does a lot
of stuff up here, and a lot of people come
and see him and talk to him and try to
get his story.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Now, you said his name's David. How did you guys
come across how'd you figure out what his name was?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Uh? We have a lady that came that her mom
and her brother used to do business with them, and
he owned the jewelry store here and he was thirty
one when he went off. First he went missing. He
was gone for several years, and there's newspaper clippings. He
went off to Lexington and then he came back and

(05:14):
he was here for a little while, and then he
went off with some jewels and then he was gone.
I guess, I guess a couple of days and he
was down in Bowling Green and someone either they say
he either shot hisself or someone shot him, which we've
asked and he said someone else done it. His jewelry

(05:35):
store was here, and he was thirty one when he
passed away. And I have all the newspaper clippings.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
What year did you say this happened?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh you may let yeah, I'll say I got all
the newspaper clippings.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Now, I was just curiously.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
We bought the ass several times.

Speaker 9 (05:51):
I can know who we were talking to his stuff,
and quite often on the voice box, it comes back David.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I bought a spirit box myself here recently, and yep,
I haven't really used it very much. I've tried it
out over the weekend because we were out filming some
stuff for the documentary I'm doing. But that is, we
didn't get anything on that.

Speaker 9 (06:16):
Now they usually I noticed, like what I'd got in
mind that at first I wasn't getting anything. But the
more I used it, it seems like it starts doing better.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
You start getting things for it.

Speaker 9 (06:28):
The more I guess you get used to, like the
different knobs on it and stuff and how to work it,
because it took me a little while how to figure out,
you know, where to put the knobs, how to set
it to where I'm kind of get some answers to
it because sometimes there'd be nothing butt static.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
It was February in nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, okay, so basically thirty five six years, forty seven years.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Anyway, one of the ladies who've come down here, she
she does the library and she she went and she
printed all this all for us from different like newspapers
and this, that and the other. And you know, it's
just as.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
We're in the metro Quirre Lexington.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Harold Lexington, Harold it said Jewelry turns to Onesborough and
he was.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
When he passed away in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yes, is there any other spirits or anything else that
you've guys have come across in this area.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well here recently we have got a little girl that
has been frequently around. We've got on the uh the
portal box for two or three times every time we did.
Now she comes through and uh we we post on
our website like when Grace and me or me and

(07:53):
Duane and Grace get stuff on the portal box, uh
we put we put the video one there where people
can hear it herself, you know, like Grace put a
doll down an old nineteen twenties doll on the couch
and then she put the porter box down, and as
soon as she puts it down, the girl says, what
is that? So you know, I mean, it's just as

(08:14):
plain as day in a girl's voice.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know. We don't have any newspaper clippings or anything.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, right, We don't know if they were just passer
buyers or we were a woman a.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Lot which we don't have any documentations on it, but
we've picked up on her.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
The only one I really know about it is the
Jewish story guy, And we talked to people used to
have There was a a woman and her daughter had
like a market here in the same place, and uh,
they got to wear at nighttime. They when he come down,
they wouldn't come down nineteen at all, they said, because
there was this two earie like during the day they

(08:51):
were fine, but when when it's time to go, they
forgot something. They wouldn't come back to the next day
to the morning time. And we've heard stories and we've
talked to people used to be here and stuff. So
that's just what they told us. And me and Grace
knew nothing about all this right here. When we done
the auction, house.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Here, you kind of inherited not just the place, but
whatever is in there too. What it's almost like you inherited,
not just no, you're I say items, like you've inherited
the place and whatever was in there too when you
end up getting the place.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Three years in July, yea.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Is my first experience. We were moving stuff out, uh
that people have left here, and me and Grace was
moving a dresser out and she's seen the shadow figure
and the door closed in the room that we were in.
So that was our very first experience here. You know,
of course, being paranormal investigators, you think you said, man,

(09:57):
that's all right.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know what about before you guys moved in, you
said you had some experiences that kind of led you
down this pathway. What was some of those?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Mine was the house that we used to live in
for me when.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
I was little. I remember when my pat Ball came
to see me, and this is before I even knew
that he had passed away. And a little bit later
my brother came out and told me my mom wanted
to talk to us inside. And then when we went in,
it was funny because I said saw him as it
was him. I mean, I didn't even think of it

(10:31):
being a spirit. He looked solid to me. And then
when we went in, my mom told me that he
had passed away in the hospital.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
He had died of cancer. They kind of kept it from.

Speaker 9 (10:43):
Us kids at first, so I mean, I think that
was kind of my first experience of it. But I mean,
as far as getting into it, I guess I stories
kind of wondered, you know, was was that just the
kid's imagination that it happened, or did it really happen.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I've heard other people say similar things, like of I
believe as someone's grandfather had passed away if I remember right,
and she had saw her grandfather, but it couldn't have
been him because he had just passed away, but she
didn't know that well, So.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
That's pretty much what happened to me.

Speaker 9 (11:22):
And it's and even when I saw him, I mean,
because we lived wide a ways away from each other,
it didn't strike me as funny or anything that he
was there and he was telling me everything was okay.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I feel like that is something that does seem to
happen for a lot of people, and I think that
is again I'm no expert. I I don't know anything,
but in my opinion, I feel like that is whatever,
whoever it is, it's their way of moving on. But
they're letting the other people know that they're.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Okay, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
You said you grew up in a hanted house. What
was some of the stuff that's gone on there?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, I didn't grow up in the heart. Well I
mean I did grow up in the house, but I
didn't know things start happening. So I was already married
and I moved back into the same house, and then
just weird crap would happen there. And then that's how
I got into it. Me and neighbor was like, he
was like, we'll take a picture it and when you
think something's going on, and I'm like no, and family,

(12:20):
I did and we caught something and then I was
scared after that, and then I was like, okay, I
can't be like that. So then that's when me and
Hirst started going out and doing things, and then I
drug him into it. He wouldn't interested in it at first,
but he went along. Anyway. When he's ever experienced anything

(12:41):
until this year, he don't really hear things, see things,
or anything.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I feel like that doesn't happen for a lot of people.
If you go out looking for the stuff, usually you
don't find it. But it's the stuff that you're not
looking for is when you actually notice it. So yeah,
and until you have actually have an experience, I think
it's hard for people to have that experience or at
least recognize them.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Now he started. He started having his experience after he
died twice. See back in January.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
You might have asked, what happened.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
We really don't know what happened other than he had
to get a pacemaker. And they don't know to have
no explanation what he wasn't even sick. And now he
sees things, here's things.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
And now I'm just like Grace.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't know how to correlate all that.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
But then let's say I went out for five minutes
at a time or twice my heart quld beat in
that flat line for five minutes at time. Uh, then
they put a pacemaker. I mean I have done it
since and h but.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Now he sees thing and here's things he never heard before. Yeah,
he hears things I don't hear.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Maybe I'm just open more open now, I guess, or
or they made me more open.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I feel like maybe when people and it's a cliche saying,
but like when you touch the veil or if you
cross over just for a little litle bit, it opens
you up more. Yees, yeah, to the other side.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yes, I believe it because I didn't. I didn't. I
didn't really honestly. My my two experiences I had. One
of them was in a graveyard and I had a
flashlight on a tombstone and I was asking questions and
I told her to turn the light on the tombstone,
and something hit my back pocket and turned the light
on that I had in my back pocket instead of

(14:27):
the tombstone light. That was that. And we went to
a graveyard and I got a picture of the miner
that haunts the uh uh cemetery and that was my
That was my two experiences for ten years, twelve years
A lot now. Hell, I hear ship now and everything else.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, that's that's something that I've heard from multiple people
that it's like they've had near death experiences and it
makes them more susceptible towards experiencing other things.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, I believe it. I'm a fun believer in it
because I sure it did. Matter of fact, I was
talking to some other paranormal guy. And he told me
the same thing. He had a heart attack, right, yeah,
he had a heart attack. And he said, well, now
I hear things and I see shadow figures. Now I
can sense things. I say, yes, I know what you mean.

(15:25):
I said, every sense of Pacemaker. I see everything in
the gray sea. Grace is a sensitive She knows a
lot of stuff. She has dreams about things that's gonna happen,
and we can walk around and she can tell me
what she senses in a room and stuff like that.
Now I'm not as as a father along as that is,

(15:46):
but I'm a starter what she is.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
You're just beginning your journey.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I'll just beginning. That's right. I just got my wings.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I will say. And this is not to sound the
like a warning or anything, but sometimes once you start
getting these experiences, they don't always turn out to be
the best like one. No, You're can have some stuff
that come through the are not the not the greatest
of spirits to want to come through, not the greatest

(16:18):
of energies, And it does open you up for even
some dark stuff. So just always make sure when you're
doing investigations or whatever. From what I've been told by
other people. Is to always make sure you have some
sort of protection for yourself.

Speaker 9 (16:32):
Yes, yes, I know a lot of groups will actually
do like a prayer thank you, you know for speaking
with us, but they need to stay where they're at
and when the group is leaving and not the follow
them home.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (16:47):
Uh, you'll find several groups to it usually do a
prayer at the end to close the door, as you
call it.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, I think. Uh, there's other podcasters that I know
that have I don't want to call it a ritual,
but they do like almost like a prayer or they
say something or whatever, because they believe when you even
talk about this type of stuff, it opens up even
like just doing like this conversation we're having now. Sometimes

(17:18):
speaking about stuff like that is almost opening a doorway
for other things. And I don't know if I necessarily
believe in all that, but it is something that I
always kind of keep in the back of my mind.
That's kind of why I don't do my right. I
moved out of my house in order to do this show,
and I have my own little studio now that's not
attached to my house because I was having some weird

(17:39):
stuff going at my house and I thought maybe this
show was part of the reason why there were weirder
things going on, so I, as a precaution, get it
out of there.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, that's right. I mean, honestly, that's that's the truth
about it. You know, at our house we have antiques
and pictures canes, and then we have stuff going on
their own house that I built twenty two years ago,
you know, And and I think it's a lot of
times it's the stuff inside the house that makes the

(18:13):
difference thirty two years yeah, basically thirty two years ago.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
Yeah, It's like some people won't they won't use a
wiki board at all, and then that's some they won't
use it in the house. Yeah, that they I'll have
to do it like outside of somewhere else. But the
way that opening the door and then that can cause
bobbins in the house.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
There are a lot of things that I would not
recommend doing, and the Luigi board is one of those
superstitious things that I won't mess with. But yeah, when
I got this spirit box, and I've always been told
by people to never never do any sort of like
paranormal investigating of where you live at and when I

(18:56):
got the spirit box. I turned it on just to
make sure it was working mm hm, and my son
had asked me if what it was, and I tried
to explain to him. It's like, is that the thing
that talks? I said yes, and I turned it on.
And my wife had already warned me not to do
anything in the house because she's very very doesn't want
anything to do with any of this stuff. And yes,

(19:18):
that sounds like I said, is there anything out there?
And it was going as it was skating, then it
goes it sounds like a lady's voice. He goes hello,
and I instantly just turned it off. I was like, well,
it's working, but but.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, that's you know, honestly, that's true. I mean a
spirit boxing and honestly you boards same thing. Yeah, that
is communication.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
You're inviting something at that point. Yes, and that is.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
With me just in case I don't with me to
I said, I've got.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're still here tomorrow, so I take my stuff home.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I've got my stuff all out here in my studio,
so I don't even keep it in the house. So
it also normally I keep everything detached from where I live.
That way, any sort of bad juju or any type
of negativity or anything like that. It's literally contained out
the where it's at out here, and I've got little

(20:24):
protective symbols and other things around this place to try.
And I feel like I'm a paranoid lunatic sometimes when
I do stuff like that. But for me, it's the.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
First time we went out. We went with my cousin
and we went out and had these crosses and this stuff,
and he's like, you're never going to find anything with
all this stuffs.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, sometimes when like, okay, sometimes you might go a little.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Overboard, but.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
That's what you're saying. So I don't. I don't I
quit that as I.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Go and fish and I use no bait.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Right.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
We were working on a documentary, me and a couple
of other people, and we were out this past weekend
and I'd had some of this stuff. And I mentioned
this earlier, like that we weren't picking anything up on
the spear box, but I was going out there with
these meters and everything. And the area that we were
at is an old battle ground from back in eighteen twelve,

(21:20):
from when the army came through and wiped out a
bunch of the Native Americans that lived around here. So
we were out there and I was asking questions, I
was trying to get readings and everything, and everyone says,
this is one of the most highest areas of paranormal activity.
And I didn't get a single thing. So it's a
little discouraging because you always hear about people coming out

(21:41):
and saying that they always experienced this stuff. I was like,
in the time I go out there, we don't experience anything, right.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
But we've been places that get stuff and then we've
gone back thinking oh, well we're going to get a
bunch of stuff and getting nothing.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, that is the like it is fishing and in.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
A st yea we drove ken ours. One has been
whole weekend and got good stuff, scary stuff, but then
turn around and go back two years later and getting
that absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It's just part of the whole thing. It's, uh, you
never know what's going to happen. You never know what
you're gonna get. I've had people send me EVPs and
I've listened to it and it's some creepy ship that
you don't even know who it could be. And then yes,
you hear I had someone send me something from an
old hospital and you hear a little girl's voice. And

(22:35):
then I've had someone recently send me something and you
hear her nephew plain as day, and he'd recently passed away.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yes, so I have my aunt on recording up here
and she's passed away, oh what four or five years ago,
and I got her singing up here on the recorder.
On the camera recorder, we get a lot of.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Art by the camera, and we do the EVP too.
But like during the auction of stuff, we have cameras
running and people will walk by and move their head
and well, I ask them, hey, what'd you hear. We'll
go back and listen to the camera. We hear them
they'll say hello, hey, ha, you know, stuff like that
just out of the blue. And we get a lot
of ours like that right there.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And we got one guy won't come back.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, you have an experience with less and he have
been back since.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I have a couple of cameras set up out here
for security, and the one that's inside that's on my
desk that faces like the entry, it will randomly go
off and it sends me notifications to my phone so
I can see it live. And it also records anytime
there's movement, and there's been a few times it records movement,

(23:48):
and one time was a shadow moving across the desk
and I've never been able to figure out what that was.
And then you can also see something on the wall
start to move. I thought it may have been the
air condition, but it was just random that it only
happened once, and that air had been running all summer
so widened down. Did it trigger it? And then just

(24:09):
recently it went off in the middle of the night
and said that there was a package being delivered. Oh,
I didn't have anything being delivered in the middle of
the night. I said there was a package, and I
thought that was strange. I had a recording and a
notification on my phone.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
But sometimes a package will come up there to be
a person.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah. It always goes off when it sees me too.
It'll send me a warning that there's someone in the area.
I was like, well, that's me. I know I'm in here.
Thanks for letting me know.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
We'll be at home watching TV and the camera systrom
here kick on and saying there's a package or something
and of course no one's here.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, No, that's that's some of the best. It always
freaks me out. I always hope I want to catch
something very interesting, but other than the shadow, I've never
been able to pick anything up on these cameras, but
I hold out hope.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
What kind of camera? What kind of cameras do you
have to be?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
One hundred percent of these are just the cheaper Roku
security camera system.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, but that's what I got the Square one. Yeah,
they've worked really good. We've had thousand dollars systems and
not great. These are great.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I had a couple other ones that were wired, and
when I made this studio, I didn't want to have
to try and wire them the way I did, so
this these are set up differently and they work so
I have no complaints and I pay for the subscription.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
So it's yeah, it's worth it. Just they We've got
like fifteen cameras up here, I think fifteen or sixty.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Something like that, so it's always good to have it.
And then just because of it's not that I don't
for me, it's more for security purposes, so I know
what's going on around my air. But for me, I'm
also thinking, like I hope I catch something on these cameras,
Hope something walks by that's what we have ours for.

(26:05):
I randomly get like a bunny rabbit or something hopping
by or some other things, but it's not I think
maybe one day I'll catch something cool there.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
You go, like up here when we moved in the house,
is it's like a separate part from the like the
pole barn, it's all under it's two separate roofs. Anyway,
we have a hallway and to keep the auction people
out of our where they do investigation and stuff like that,
I'll put a door in and uh to keep separate

(26:38):
right right there by the bathrooms and that door right
there where I we assume where it never was a
door there before, where the door just opens up. You
hear two clicks and the door open up.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I've wondered before. Now there's different there's different types of hauntings.
I think you have your residual hauntings where that's kind
of like it's time stamp, where things are just repeating
itself over and over. But then you have your intelligent hauntings,
and I think that's where you start to get some
sort of activity to where they answer the questions because

(27:11):
they know what you're saying. Yeah, they opened things which
I think being able to interact with stuff and move
things and open things, to me, that seems more with people.
I guess I don't know where it splits off at.
But you hear about Poltergeist, and that's when they're like, oh,
there's bad things have Things are being thrown around, things
are being not.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
That's when they stopped getting moved around broken.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
We have a tornado outside your house. That's a little rough,
but if it's.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Had a candlestick moved here before. But I mean, we
don't have anything bad going on here.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
When I was younger, I don't honestly think I've said
anything on this show before, but when I was younger,
there was I was at a friend's house and I
didn't actually I've seen it happen, but I don't know
exactly where how it happened. That there was a ketchup
bottle on the table that flew off the table, and

(28:04):
I don't know if maybe just something in the house
caused it to fall off, but it was freaky, like
they claimed the house was haunted and then that happened.
So it's like, I don't really know, I just remember
that event happening, like so yeah, I did someone bumped

(28:28):
the table. I don't remember anyone walking by it. I
don't it fell off the table. I can't say it's paranormal,
but I just know it fell off the table. But
when you hear them talk about how the house was haunted,
it adds it adds some credence to it. So it's like,
is that. But I've had other weird stuff that's gone
on in my home personally that I'm not gonna bring

(28:50):
up because I've talked about it enough. But there's always
weird things going on, and I'm always the type of
person that wants to try and rule things out first. Yes,
it's the stuff that you can't rule out that really
gets to you.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, we're trying to do bunk everything, and something happens
up here. We're always trying to figure out what could
cause it, what would do it, and normally sometimes we can't.
There have been times we have figured it out.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I don't want that door. We had camera on both sides,
one on one side, one on the other. You hear
two clicks and then the door opens and Grace has
asked before it, David, can you open the door. I'm
my hands are full and I'm coming through there, and
at times it's it's I just opened up after you know,
Grace said it, and Dwayne said one time he said,

(29:39):
you know, you can open the door. That's pretty impressive. Now,
if you can shut the door, that would really be good.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
And later on that night, wasn't it slam Later on
that night it's slam shut. We've got it on.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
You haven't done that before, slam shut.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's the first time.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
And only it's definitely something.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Is this proven it stuff? He can do it?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Or I think it's which.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
We talked to David every time we come up and
we're like, how you doing, David, And everybody up here
and knows about David, and everybody talks to him. Even
our customers come talk to him.

Speaker 9 (30:09):
Yes, he seems to like Potho who's never been here before.
He seems to almost like he likes meeting people. But
usually when they're here for the first time, especially if
they're investigating, they're going to get stuff. David Lesson, he's
he's never done anything bad to anybody, but I could
see what some people. You know, something happens and then

(30:32):
they get scared, but it's not that they did anything wrong.
It's just they get scared cause something happened.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I've always thought it was funny that people will want
to go out and investigate this end up getting scared,
and even the people like on TV your Zach Began's
and everything from Ghost Adventures. Yes, and then when something
happens and the reaction they get and they get freaked
out everything. I was like, you literally do this for
a living.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
At this point, I've done that before.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Yeah, I still get excited when something happens. I mean
like like nothing's ever happened before or something. It just yeah,
adrenaline gets puffing excite.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's just the over being. Maybe it's just me and
the way I'm wired, but like, if I'm going to
go out and do something like this, and I'm not
going to get scared by it if I'm out looking
for it, unless a brick comes flying at my head
and I'm like, all right, that's a little you're trying
to kill that at this point, but.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I've done it before. When we first started, we were
in the graveyard and I was filming. I was fucking
filming him doing his investigation, and then I felt like
something was about to attack me. So I went to
the car and my mom was like, why'd you go
to the car for it and get you in the car?
And I was like, okay, So that was the last
time I ever got scared.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, I've went on a couple different investigations with people
before and it kind of turned me off just because
everything was paranormal. And I'm the type of person, like
I said earlier, that wants to not say everything's paranormal
until you really know and exactly.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
That doesn't make a difference. You know, people say, well
this is and that's what I told Grace, Like up
here right if they said, well, you know we went
to places, they say, well, that door opened right there,
or you can get a shadow figure down here, what ours?
We have a video showing what happened. We're showing what
voices we get and stuff like that. Other than hearsay,

(32:24):
and I would tell Grace that thought. To me, in
my mind, that's always the best cold.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
You say earlier that you have a a group or
a website or wherever you post up your stuff. Yes,
what was it called?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Ye, it's called Backwoods Kentucky ghost Hunters.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Okay, it's on Facebook.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
But Grace puts it on Facebook, and like I said,
on her private and she does on backwood Tucky ghost
hunders and we'll get it like an EVP or the
camera kit something and Grace have put on her. This
is what we think it said. When I gonna say,
but what do y'all hear? And it's amazing there's a
difference what people hear.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
Yeah, it's everyone's listening to the same thing, but two
or three people's hearing it's saying something different.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
It is interesting that it does happen that way because
I know of other people people to do the same situations.
They will not say what they think they hear, or
they'll ask did you hear anything? And then you will
get different answers from different people because of the way
that they interpret stuff.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
And if anything is you can go back and listen
to it again. Is then you hear it too? Yeah,
it's yeah, it's power suggestion, it's it's basy. So you
hear three or four different things in one one word.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's very interesting and I've often wondered, I don't know
how to like, I don't know the process of how
things are able to say that we can't hear, but
it's on a recording and we can hear it, you
know what I mean. Yeah, my brain I struggle with
understanding how it's capable because it's very electronic based, so

(34:11):
again electricity, which is basically what we all have our
own electrical energy anyways. But it's like it's implemented into
this recording, but we can't hear it ourselves.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
No I have.

Speaker 9 (34:30):
Well, it's like it's just like you can look into
a room, you don't see nothing in there, but you
take a picture of it anyway, and then you see
some type of image in the picture, but yet you
stood there and you didn't see nothing. Recording is the
same way. You don't hear it, but yet the recording
picked up a voice. It's just it's funny how all
that works. Like day and sometimes you do see an image,

(34:53):
you know, and you actually see it, like walking down
the hallway or something.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I have seen a very small eighteen inch shadow running
down my hallway a little over a year ago, and
I gave chase to it. It ran into my daughter's room
and I ran into her room as she was sleeping
in her bed. I don't know where the little shadow went,
but if I found it, I was going to kick
it across the room, but right, just because the stuff

(35:18):
that's been here is not the greatest of things. And
that is the one time that I've actually physically seen
something Like We've had other things happen, but nothing that
I actually was able to see with my own eyes.

(35:38):
So what is eighteen inches tall that runs on two legs?
I have no idea. It doesn't like even if it's
a spirit's very small. It's less than two feet tall
running down the hallway. I don't know how to describe
it other than a.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Little It's something that's not natural, of a.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Very strange and it's always everything that's always ever happened here,
always seems to happen in this back area of our house,
which is where my daughter's bedroom is, and all the
weird activity has always been centered in her bedroom ever
since we've moved in.

Speaker 9 (36:16):
So has she ever said anything about her will? I mean,
does she ever see anything?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Or There is a whole lot to unpack with that,
And I can talk to you off air about it.
I don't want to bore the audience with because they've
all heard it before, but uh, yeah, there is There's
been a lot that she deals with and we've dealt
with that goes on here. But is there anything else
that you guys would like to discuss?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
So you said you're doing a look right.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm working on filming a documentary about a lot of
the weird stuff that goes on in my hometown. We
have a lot of weird cryptids stuff, We've had a
lot of weird paranormal stuff, a lot of UFO stuff,
And I've figured out that it all is centralized around
this very specific geographic area from where all these reports are,

(37:10):
and I've got things mapped down and I've started to
notice patterns and there's just a lot of weird high
strangers going on in this small little community.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Funny you say that me and Grace used to go
to a face that was about forty five minutes from
where we live at and we would call it spook Heel.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Well that's what they called it.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Yeah, but it was it was so crazy, Uh they
say the town got so hanted. People just picked up
and the left all their ship there.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's called Alsie Kentucky, It's what it's what it's called.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Now, what side of what side of Kentucky are you?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
We are in on Kentucky right right?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know where Evans, Indiania. Okay, well, then there's Henderson, Kentucky,
and there were next after Henderson. That's how I like it.
But that we would go over there. We actually seen
UFO flights over there.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
It was so crazy. They had a cemetery up in
there in that woods and uh at times we could
we go over there and take five minutes to find it.
The time takes two hours.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Mmm.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Then the person in our group looking through the UH
Infra red binoculars and he said, whatever it is over,
I said, a priest against the tree, pointing his finger
of that direction, and we walked right over. In two
minutes we was in it. It was. It was just crazy.
But they said that was an Indian India, Indian barrel
grounds right there, you see, like the bold part of it.

(38:41):
And they said that's what caused a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
There is a lot of that around here too, and
I think that has a lot to do with the activity.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yes, yeah, every time we went there, it was something.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
They had it late. They said, don't let darkness catching
that late, and they said they had They interviewed fishermen
that stayed in the boat all right long until daybreak
to get out. I mean it was just crazy. I
mean you think yourself, well, hell, I'm gonna go see
what that's about. Right, we go where dark you know,
say hey, let's go up in it. And it was
it was different.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Hot spots.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, there's always specific areas that are always told I
don't know what it is, but I don't know when
you said hot spots. There's a lot of high energy
areas and there's always a lot of weird activity in
these specific areas. And yes, some of the areas that

(39:39):
I've noticed are usually around water, and I think water
is a conduit for the energy.

Speaker 9 (39:45):
Yeah, sometimes I say, like this under groundwater that can
cause it to and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
That's where some of these spots come from.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, it's just not to spoil everything from my documentary,
but I think a lot of the stuff that I'm
in instigating is literally based around all these river systems,
because there's three different river systems that all come around here,
and the rivers themselfs actually make a triangle.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
But right, that interesting and.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
If you go off and like you can connect the
points and everything else, they kind of all run into
each other and it all kind of makes a triangle
and a lot of high strangers in there. So it's
like I'm calling it the Mississino All Triangle because literally
it is a triangle, and I know.

Speaker 9 (40:27):
It is funny how that shape seems to come up alt.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
But no, we've got a lot of interviews already recorded,
and we've been out in the woods this past weekend
and got a lot of actual investigation stuff that we
need to get filmed, and then hopefully by the later
this year we'll have it already to be released.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
Please keep us informed on that. I'd like to check
that out.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Do you do any big food hunting?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
That is one of the things that we are looking for,
because there has been there.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
You go, well, we've actually seen that over there.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Also there are we do that also and say there's
definitely a lot of stuff going on in the woods.
We have had lots of reports of I've had people
send me tracks that they found. I've heard stories from
people that have actually saw a big foot and.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Then we actually have a TRACKNT.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
We have a lot of weird cryptid and encounters, not
just bigfoot. We've had people will call them were wolves.
I think it's dog man, and then we've had stuff
that are humanoid and We've had people that have reported
seen flying humans like they have wings that they don't

(41:44):
flap the wings, they just leve it off the ground.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, this is the Banana cemetery, so this is over
before you get to hear. We were there one night
and we were there was a cornfield going to the
the graveyard, and they explained that me and the neighbor
were in the band because she was older. Well they
explained it as something out of deeper scrapers. Nobody you

(42:09):
could hear it, Like about the corn it was weird.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, there's there is a lot of weird stuff that.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Goes on, but I do believe that, and.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
It's it's not just isolated to where I live. And
I think I don't want people to come off thinking
that I'm just saying all this stuff happens here, But
if people actually start to dig into their local areas,
you would probably start to see the same sort of
patterns that I did.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Like, yes, well around here, I haven't seen a lot
of that, but if you could drive about forty five
minutes from our house, you're guaranteed you go see something there.
With USI fix it.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I feel like every.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Really active over there for that stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
There's specific areas that are very big hot spots, and
for some reason, I just happened to live in one,
and like you said, forty five minutes from you, there's
another one, So I well that's good.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
So I think the whole country, and I think the
whole world in general, has these random spots. And what
makes them special. I have no idea, but I think
there's just something to it.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
And I think the best information you find is people
who are seventy five to eighty ninety years old that
lived in the area. That's the best information.

Speaker 9 (43:21):
Yeah, if you can get some of them to talk,
because some of them like that. They can't explain it,
they don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
There's still that stigma where no one wants to come forward,
especially the older generation, because back then it was taboo
to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah, and then you were labeled as crazy.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I think people are still labeled that today. But I
I try and help. That's the point of my show
is to try and at least give people the opportunity
to talk about these type of things, because I know
what it's like to experience stuff and never be able
to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, you know what I mean. When something happens and
you can't explain it, you think to yourself, wow, or
how is that possible?

Speaker 9 (44:06):
Especially if you didn't get it recorded or something like that.
You're like, man, I know, if I tell people this happened,
they're gonna think I'm nuts, right, you know, And I've
got no proof to back it up. I know it happened,
but you know, are they gonna believe it?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
That's how I've always felt about stuff that happened with me,
is I had no proof. The person that also experienced
it too didn't want to talk about it, So right
then I didn't talk about it because what's the point.
No one's gonna believe you. I say, you're lying or
you're crazy, So what's the point that's true?

Speaker 5 (44:41):
So that's that is where it works.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
That is why I do what I do, though, to
give people the opportunity to come on here and talk
about what they experienced, because it sucks not being able
to do that.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, that's sure to.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Blacks them and grasive. We'll be up here, not we'll
just working and stuff like that, and stuff happens and
you think, well, that's not recorded on that so we
don't have to worry about that, you know. But I
tell great, since you know what, it was still happening
if only me and you're up here, that's still good
enough for me.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
Sometimes I found it's good that people would know that
I do go hunting stuff like where I work at
when they experienced something that they'd be quick to come
to me and but you know, bring it to me
and hey, what do you think that you know about this?
Because they know I such boys, so they're like, Okay,
he won't think I'm crazy if I tell him.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
That is Yeah, that is what it's been happening with
me is randomly now I will get people reaching out
to me or I've had even family members bring stuff up.

Speaker 9 (45:45):
And.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I've been going to these events. I have events that
I've been doing, like in person stuff, so people will
come up and talk to me in person, share some
of the stuff that they've experienced or whatever. So I
just feel like what I'm doing, I hope is helping
other people. So yeah, that is why I try and
do what I do. Just to be honest, it's kind

(46:09):
of selfish. It helps me with my own coping, and
then I feel like it's helping out the party too.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So I've had I've had three people since Saturday come
to the last Saturday. Yeah, they come to me to
tell me. You're like, why is this happened? Why is
this happening? You know it was this him was this hard?
And I'm like, yeah, but three times it's Wait when
two days three.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
People called me, you know, it's once people I think,
actually find out that you're okay to talk to about
certain things. Some people may laugh, but there's always going
to be those couple of people be like, hey, I've
had some weird stuff happen too.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, can you help me?

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (46:48):
Sometimes it's just that they know that not alone, that
they're not the only one that's experiencing this stuff, right.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
And just being able to talk to someone that can
understand a little bit it is beneficial for yes, non judgmental. Right, Well,
we've been going on for almost an hour, so we
can probably wrap this up here in a few minutes.
But is there anything else it does? Is there anything

(47:17):
else you would like to discuss before we do?

Speaker 4 (47:20):
No, I don't know, I don't guess.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I mean we enjoyed ourselves.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Yes, we have time. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
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Speaker 1 (47:49):
Heard the story lay last night about something alert along
a wood line, foot prints, strange lights in the sky.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
They claim it's nothing, but I know they lie. It
sees your laugh to laugh in my face. But something
about this makes me say, what if it's real? What
if they knew?

Speaker 6 (48:16):
What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores,
wasting mind time? Hearing boy it says, is it all
in their minds? They can call me crazy, but I
just want some through.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
What if it's true?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
What if it's really?

Speaker 7 (48:36):
What if it's true?

Speaker 6 (48:38):
What if the worlds not what we knew?

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Tim for tell, lend me a story that starts where
the lodge is gets.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
What if it's real?

Speaker 7 (48:52):
If it's true? The answers are.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Waiting, They're waiting for you.

Speaker 8 (48:58):
They see the dog man walking or maybe a offman flights.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
I love the very giants hidden beneath the lies.

Speaker 9 (49:06):
They say, it's just stories, it's.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
All they believe.

Speaker 8 (49:11):
The fairy tale is for the things we can't perceive.
That won't keep us blindly, that won't break our wheel.
But I'm not buying it. I'm not swallowing another pill.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Forest fed poison. The lies were made to thee.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
What if the truth could set us free?

Speaker 8 (49:29):
The alien signals traveling through time, secret space programs are
racing their minds.

Speaker 7 (49:37):
They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
What if it's real?

Speaker 3 (49:45):
What if it's true?

Speaker 5 (49:47):
What if the worlds not?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
What we do?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Till Oil tells fullie Me.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
A story that starts where the logic is.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
What if it Three?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
What if it's true?

Speaker 6 (50:02):
The cancers are waiting, They're weighed.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
In for you.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
They lie we all been die.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
The signs are there if you open your eyes.

Speaker 8 (50:15):
The aliens cricked its demon's ghost, the depul them.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Two.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
What if it's me?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Or what if it's true?

Speaker 6 (50:24):
What if it's raal?

Speaker 7 (50:25):
What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (50:27):
What if the world's not?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
What way to do?

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Ten?

Speaker 6 (50:32):
Foil tells fully me, a story that.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Starts where the logic can What.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
If it's rain?

Speaker 7 (50:41):
What if it's true.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
The cancers are waiting, they're weighing for you.

Speaker 7 (50:47):
It's all in.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Our heads, it's all in our binders. These voices can
be silenced.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
The truth must rise.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Ten for Tell.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
It's pulling me through.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
What if it's reading? What if it's true.
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