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July 22, 2025 68 mins
Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales. On this episode, I am joined by my guest Jay and he shares some of the ealier encounters he had with what he believes were alien beings. This will be part one of a two part when Jay will return to discuss more about his recent experiences.


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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was done.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult
is one of the things that turned me.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Away the quickest.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
looked at us.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
And one of the things I remember the most, where
the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It is just circling these steps like it is waiting
for me.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO.
They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven
foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's
where I saw.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As
soon as I made eye contact with this thing. I
don't like death.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Welcome back to Tedfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Tonight.
We are joined by my guest Jay, Jay. Thanks for
coming on here and talking with me.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Would you like to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself before we get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Uh, Well, I used to be a dairy farmer. Well,
he's lived out in the country. Uh, I've had a
very strange life. I know that their extraterrestrials are real,
and I've had not a near death experience. But I

(01:42):
died from pneumonia when I was young, and I was
shown and told, I was given a message, and I
was showing an image. Image was a image of an
extraterrestrial and I was told, so you will not be afraid.
And when I turned sixteen years old, I got abducted

(02:05):
three times, and in the second a function the image
I was shown when I was when I died, i'd
met it a race of that species of aliens.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
M Well, if you want to start from the beginning,
you can dive on into it and I'll just turn
it over to you, and if I have any questions,
I'll last towards the end.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay. Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
When I was sixteen, when I was one and a
half years old, I caught pneumonia. I didn't pay attention
to my mother because it was wintertime out, and I uh.
She would tell me, get me dressed in my winter clothes,
and she'd tell me to keep my coat zipped up

(02:54):
in my fruits buckled, and I'd grasped the.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Unto the porch and go outside.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
As soon as I got out of her sight, I
would unzipped my coat, unfuck with my boots, Uh take
my gloves or emittings on, whatever I happened to have on.
But I would hear this soft voice in my head
telling me to do it, and I'd get cold, and

(03:25):
I'd go in. Of course I'd had snow down my boots,
my feet would be cold, my hands would my gloves
was off, My hands were cold and rading. My mother
used to fold me and tell me, she says, she
called she called me junior. He says, what did I
tell you about unzipping your coat and unbuckling your boots

(03:46):
when you went out?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
So I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Many times it happened, but anyways, I remember, Oh, I
got awful sick. I chested hirt and stuff and got
to the point where I he stopped eating.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
All I wanted to do was sleep. Well. I remember.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
My mother waking me up and getting me dressed, and
my father carrying me out to the car and going out.
My mother was in front of us, and we got
to the car. He opened the door and got in.
My father handed me to her, and he went around
to the back of the car and got in the

(04:29):
driver's seat, put the key in the ignition, which was
on a dashboard because this is back in nineteen fifty six,
and I remember him putting the car in the gear
and starting to drive out, and I fell asleep, I
think before the te even got to the road. Our

(04:49):
driveway was kind of long. And next thing I remember,
I was waking up and my mother was holding me.
She had my my head on her left shoulder, and
I was looking off to my right and my father
was standing there and it sounded like they was in

(05:10):
a heated argument with somebody, maybe with a couple of people.
And I turned my head over my right shoulder more
and I seen a man standing behind a desk. He
was in a white gown like a hospital yeah jacket,
and a toughoscope he had around his neck, and.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I could hear my mother she was crying.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Then I must have fell back to sleep, because next
thing I remember was I was leaving my body. I remember,
I just couldn't leave it. I had to prepare myself
to leave the body. First thing I did. My eyes
was disconnected from the vessel's eye. The vessel is what

(05:59):
I call my body, and it went back to my
brain and my brain disconnected from the vessel's brain, and
I started going down towards the net. I could see
going down through the throat, I could see like Adam's apple,
uh windpipe and all that stuff. And once I I

(06:23):
was my head was down into my chest. I had
to retrieve my arms up out from the vessel's arms.
I remember first my fingers, then up until it got
to my chest, and same with my my legs and
stuff my toes coming up through the beating up the

(06:47):
legs and end of the vessel. Then I left out
through the chest and I was as I was passing
through that I could see flashing bones, I saw flushed
skin and going through the blankets that was covering the vessel.
And I didn't go straight up. I went towards the

(07:08):
foot of the bed at an angle. And as I
was doing doing that, I was.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Happy.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I felt good because I was cramped in the vessel.
The vessel was too small for me. And anyways, I
knew as I got to the foot foot of the bed,
I was probably like three or four feet above it,
and I knew somebody was supposed to meet me to
take me back.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I got to.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Guide me back where I came from. Well, they wasn't there.
So I thought maybe I would look around, and I
then I thought, I said, no, I better not, I
better stay here. And then I started remembering that from
from what I was, I knew where I came from.

(08:05):
I knew why I why I was here in a
third dimension, uh hum, I knew that I could shape
shift into anything I wanted to look like. And so
after that, I kind of looked down and I could
see what I looked like, and.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I did a ninety.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Degree return to my right, and I could see my
bedroom wall, but I could see right through it. I
could tell it was dark out black. I could thought
I knew it was nighttime. Also, I looked down again
and I could see the rest of what I looked like.

(08:51):
I picked my head back up and I did a
one eighty I could see a cabinet. I could see
objects in it, but I could see through the stuff.
They couldn't see him real clear. I could see the
wall I could see out through.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
The wall, and.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
The hallway I couldn't see past, and the next wall
I couldn't see past that.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Then I did.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Another eighty degree turned to my left, and I could
see the another wall. Then I could see a room
out there it was the living room. I could see furniture,
and I seen the door which that door led to
the porch and another door, but I couldn't see past

(09:35):
the door that led outside. Then I looked down and
I seen the vessel I was in. I knew I
came from that vessel. It was laying there. It was
the blankets were covered up to its neck, and its
head was turned to its right should arm over its

(09:55):
right shoulder. I could see its mouth was open a
little bit, and I I could see the tongue ticking out,
and I knew it was lifeless.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Had no feeling of sorrow or pity for it. It
was nothing more than a vessel to me. And I
remembered its parents, and they meant nothing to me. So
I filled it back up and I did H one

(10:27):
eighty back to my left, and as I got there,
there was.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
A doorway and way back in it, I could see
a bright light.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
The color I was in that light, we were the
same color, the same light, really bright, and.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I knew it was the way home.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I it's already to move to it, because I
was not going to wait no longer for whoever was
supposed to be there.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I was going to go through it.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Then just as I started to move off to the
right in the doorway, I see a little black dot.
It was way way way back, and as so, I
stopped and I watched as it come closer, I could

(11:22):
see it take a shape. And as it's moving forwards,
it's coming real slow. I start to see a porsol,
then legs, arms and a head, and it moves forward.
It doesn't come to the door.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It stays. It stays back away from the.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Doorway aways and I, now I don't ask this, I
just think that. I thought, why am I being shown
this image? And I received the message. Now this message
I received, I heard it through every bit of what
I was, the whole of me. Anyways, it said, so

(12:05):
you will not be afraid. Well I wasn't afraid of it,
but I couldn't understand why it would tell me that.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Then it told me says, you have to go back. Oh.
I didn't want to go back.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I wanted to go back home to where I come from,
which I my inner south, as I call it, is
an interdimensional sen.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And it wanted to go back. Then it was like
something grabed the whole of the whole of what I was.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And it made me turn around, and it pushed me
down back into the vessel. I want in the vessel.
I had to reverse through the things like my I
had the shape shift. I had my legs into the
legs and armed into the arms, and the head up
into the head, and the eyes back to the head.
And then after I was toldly back into the vessel.

(13:05):
I remember, I started to wake up and I was
still in a lot of pain in my chest bad.
And I received a telepathic message and told me to
sit up and take the jar off the table and
eat it all. And I responded back by saying, I'm

(13:28):
too sick. In two weeks, I can't do it. Then
it said through me, I will give you the strength.
And I felt something under my chest and my body.
Oh that made it worse. Anyways, I sat right up
without no problem. I reached it was my night table
was on the left of me. I reached over and
took the jar. It was there now, I don't remember

(13:51):
if it was in a box or if it was
just sitting there on a.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Night table.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I grabbed it with my left hand and I took it,
and it was an unopened jar with my right hand.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I opened it up.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean it was like nothing, and I put my
right index finger I stuck it in the air. I
got as much as I could get get onto it.
I put it in my mouth and on my tongue,
and oh my god, it was the worst taste and
stuff I ever had tasted. Well, I ate the whole
jar of it, and I remember setting it back down

(14:28):
on the table and I started to lay back down
because I was still feeling terrible. Well, I think before
my head even touched the pillow, I must have passed
out or just fell back to sleep. Next thing, I remember,
my mother was shaking me. She said, Junior, She said,

(14:48):
did you eat that? How did you get it open?
And I don't know if I answered her because I
was still so sick and told me She says, you
gotta wake up. He says, I got to change your
The jam is in your underwear. She said, you feed

(15:09):
and pooped them. And after that, I don't I don't
know if I just was just out of it still,
but that anyways, Uh, that's what saved my life was
eating that jar of stuff. Now what that jar was,
it was the biggest jar of vicked paper rub they saw.

(15:33):
I ate that whole jar, and I tell her that
was the most terriblest stuff I ever ate in my life.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Oh after I got better.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I wanted to tell my mother and father what happened
and what I was told, and soft again I heard
this soft, soft voice in my head telling me the
time's not right, over and over again times night right
or not now. So when I got about I think

(16:06):
about nine years old, I drew a picture of what
I saw and I was going to show it to
my mother. Well, when I went to throw it to her,
she looked at it and she told me never talk
about this to anybody or show it to anybody. First,
I didn't understand why I but now I do, and anyways,

(16:30):
I just.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Let it go.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Then when I turned sixteen, I had three strange nights.
I would it was summertime and it was hand season,
our busiest time of the year, and my bedtime, my
bedtime in the summer was nine o'clock every night, and

(16:57):
I went to bed at nine o'clock and I would
turn off my light because the light switch was on
the wall, so I had to turn that off because
it wasn't reachable by my where my bed was my
bed was in the middle of the room, and this
was off by the door. Anyways, I would turn my
right off and get in bed, and I had a

(17:19):
routine I did. I called it my thing. And my
mother always used to ask me, how do you get
your bed such a mess? And I don't think i'd
ever asked her. I'd say, I.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Don't know when.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Any Ways, I would lay on my back, cover myself up,
picked my feet up into the air until almost, you know,
like a ninety degree my feet up way up in
the air to pull pull the blankets out from underneath,
out between the mattress and the box springs. Then what

(17:50):
my feet didn't pull out, I pulled out with my hands.
Now I had to sleep on either my left the
right side because when I was I think somewhere is
around the twelve thirteen years old, I had a tumor
in the back of my mouth and part of my
throat and I had to have operated on or just

(18:12):
right after I got out of for summer break from school,
I had to have it done and got I had
a hundred stitches in my mouth, and I remember when
the doctor that put him in when I went there
every time he pulled one out, he would count it
and he said, oh, he said one hundred.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
And he said that's I took out a hundred and
I put.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
One hundred in. And because of that, I kind of
had to learn. I had to learn how to talk
all over again. Anyways, But what it did, because my
mouth produced so much saliva, if I laid on my
back to sleep, I would have drowned it in my

(18:55):
own saliva. So I had to sleep on my sides.
And from when that happened and doing that, I even
to this day, I still sleep on my sides. Well, anyways,
back to the strange night, Well, i'd be in bed,
Well i'd wake up because I was freaking comb like
I just come out of a meat locker. I was

(19:18):
so comb shivering. And the bed would be made so perfect.
The butting was cup between the mattress and the box springs,
all the way around the bed, all the way up
to where all my armpits were, and the over top
of my chest. My hands would be. Well when I

(19:40):
when I stopped, I put my either my right or
left arm up under my pillow, so my head is
like on it. Well, my arms should be to my
side palm down on top of the blankets, and the
blanket should be folded down like maybe five or six inches,
but but I was still comb and I would sit
up and I noticed my T shirt was wet, and

(20:04):
I said, what the hell? And I put my hands
up to my chest to grab it, and I could
see like I thought it was fodder. Between my fingers
and my thumb and my first index finger, I'd let
go and the water would just like just jump right
back into my T shirt. I don't figure out what

(20:24):
the hell's going on, but get up out of bed
and take my T shirt and I would feel it,
and I mean, my T shirt was just totally wet,
not one guy spot on it, but yet my underwear
were dry. My hair wasn't white. I had kind of
like I had a little semi long hair. It was

(20:45):
down past my ears that should have been wet, but
it was dry. I con't forget out what the heck's
going on. I would put a new T shirt on,
or a dry T shirt lean and I would check
my bedding because I thought, god it it would have
to be wet too, my back being on it. But

(21:05):
it was it was. Everything was dry except for my
T shirt. Well, I just I turned my love and
my light was turned on, and I know I turned
it off because I turned it off every night. Well,
my light was on, so I went turned it off,
got back in bed, did my thing, pulled the blankets
out again, and I thought to myself, what the heck,

(21:28):
I said, I must I must have been dreaming, and
I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
So got called.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I'd get called it swix in the morning so it
could be helping with Milton. By six thirty. Well, I
just thought I remembered, you know, getting up when I
got when I got called, I got up and I
remembered being up earlier. It was like I would get
off the ground. There was fire around between three and
three thirty in the morning. Well, I'd go back to

(21:57):
bed so I could get a couple more hours sleep. Anyways,
I remember taking the T shirt off and it being
so wet, like where I threw it on the floor.
Well it was where I threw it on the floor,
and I picked it up, and I was going to
show everybody how wet it was. But it was bone dry,
it wasn't wet. And being ball up as well as

(22:20):
it was, it still should have been wet, and that's
when I thought, man, I must be dreaming, just don't
remember it, so I.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Just let it go at that. Well, it was like
a week after that the same thing happened.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh oh, let me back up a little bit here,
I'm getting ahead of myself. Well, the first time I
did it, or it happened to me, it was like
like two days later. We was I was in the
back of our pickup truck and we was going to
go bail. Hey. Well, I was sitting on a tire

(22:59):
in the back of the truck. Well, just out of
the blue, I seemed like a vision. I was walking
up this spiral ramp and I was being married. I
was being controlled to walk up.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I had no.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Control of my my motor control my body functions.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like walking and stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
And as I'm walking up this ramp, it kind of
the only thing I can move is my eyes and
my head just a little bit. I looked off to
my left and there's this wall. It's a bright, shiny
silver color. And at first I thought I was in

(23:45):
a grain bun and I was looking for where like
the panels would be boulded together, to see bolts and stuff,
But there was nothing I mean, it was perfectly smooth,
and I noticed it had a curved for it as
as I looked and looking down it was curved in,

(24:07):
and looking up it started to get curved in towards
the top. And I'm still walking why this is going on?
And I kind of looking at my left and in
the center of this spiral ramp. Uh, they were kind
of like.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
In front of me.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
They weren't exactly in the center of the spiral ramp.
They was at one side of it, like towards the
front of it. The way I was walking, there's all
these different size pipes from like maybe a half inch
up to I don't know afoot or better that. I mean,
some of them were really good. And I can feel

(24:45):
whatever is controlling me, it's grip on me is loosening.
I can start to move my head more. I'm trying
to see where I'm at. And I looked off to
my right, over my right, older and kind of down,
and I saw this little I thought it was a
small person. I thought it was a child because it

(25:07):
was only like three and a half four foot paul
and I could I could feel what it was thinking
in my mind. It didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Be, I call it.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
It didn't want to be my chaperone. It wanted to
be doing something else. It wanted to be sitting down
with feets popped up. And the first thing it popped
into my mind, I said, it's lazy. Well, when I
said that, or thought that, it kind of looked towards

(25:46):
me and seeing that I was looking at it, and
that was the end of the division. And I still
had no no clue what it was. Now this thing
had kind of like almond shaped eyes, no hair on it.
It was cray and I didn't know what the hell
I was looking at. I thought at first I thought
it was a child, and I told myself, that's not

(26:07):
a child. But I had no idea because back then
I didn't have about what extra cresturals look like or
even people being abucted. So a week later, it was
just like a repeat of the first time where I

(26:27):
was in bed the wet T shirt. At this time
I made sure I put the wet t shirt right
by the foot of my bedpost.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
So although I.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Wasn't dreaming, and the same thing, it was dry and stuff,
and I just keep telling myself, I'm dreaming.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I don't remember what it is, so.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Nothing happened after that when there so a week later,
the same thing happened. Well, this time, when I woke up,
I had a feeling like I had been in the military.

(27:16):
I can't figure that out, but it never was in
the military. And I had this haunting feeling I had killed.
Then after I got called and got up in the morning,
like I wanted to slew everybody every time somebody said something.

(27:36):
And also one other thing I remember is I was
in this tube and I was in my just my
T shirt and my underwear, and my T shirt was
wet too, and I was freezing. I mean, I thought
I was going to freeze the death ball. I was

(27:57):
in this tube. It was clear, and it had white
patches in it. Now, these white patches remind me of
a big white, fluffy, fuff buffy fluffy cloud. And I
was moving extremely fast in this tube. And I looked

(28:18):
out and I could see I knew they were stars.
They were long, white streaked. There would be a lot
of them, but they were all along streaks. I knew
they were stars. And also this tube, it reminded me
kind of of a child roller coaster had real gentle
bends in it like gentle bend to the left, were

(28:39):
right up and down, and I could see where out
the tube, and I mean I could see.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
It for miles miles and I could see it.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It was kind of bending around to the right because
I was going through it, but I mean I was
moving extremely fast. Well, anyways, after the third time I
come up with this idea, it happened.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
The fourth time.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm not I'm not gonna move, I'm gonna start righting button.
I'm gonna start hollering as well as i can to
have everybody come in and see how I am in
my bed.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
The fourth night.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Fourth time never happened, So I kind of more or
less just talk myself in too.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It was dreamed and I can't remember what they were.
I let it go with that.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Now, I was sixteen at the time. I just happened
to turn sixteen in June eighteenth, and just happened started
happening at right after end of June, early July.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, I let that. I let that go. Well, I
was dating a skull.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
And it was in nineteen seventy two. It was in
the fall. We had gone. It was on a Saturday
night because I had the following some day it was
my turn to have a day off. She'd want to
go see this movie late late, No, I don't know.

(30:15):
It probably started like midnight or something. So when it
was over, it's like one point thirty two o'clock. Well,
she she lived on this uh she lived in the
country like I did, and she lived on a like
a crossroad. At one end was the main road and
the killin was a Another main.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Road road she lived on was called mass Hill Road.
That was in.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Uh Omar in New York. In the it was called
the town was called Horse SAIDs. Anyways, it was a
mountain and I took her home. Well, I called it
the backway replace. Anyways, you had to go up a

(31:01):
hill quite steep, and as you got up there you
had to turn and a bear off. It beared off
to the right, and it straightened out and went up
to the top of the mountain. But he wasn't on
the top of it. You're still off to the side
of it. Then the road as it started to go
down and turned into a dirt road, it wasn't paved anymore.

(31:22):
That went for like I don't know mile mile and
a half where it wasn't paved, going down and there
was a nice flat spot and the cat As he
got to the end of it, it curved off to
the loft and had to go up the hill a
little bit more. Well, anyways, on this flat section of
the road, I felt like something tapped me on my

(31:45):
left shoulder. And first thing that popped in my mind was, oh,
must be when I was when we was in the theater.
Somebody might have gotten my car was in the back seat,
so I looked around to see.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, as I turned my head.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
To the left, I noticed the I'd go right right
light out the window, but I didn't look at it
because I was more concerned about if somebody was in
my back seat, Like, look back there, and I couldn't
see anybody. And so as I was turned around, I
looked and the.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Light was still there.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, I couldn't watch it because on this road, if
you went off to the way I was born, it
was north. If he went off to the right, I
was going to go down the hill, and it was
quite far and the road wasn't very wide, and you
had to be careful if somebody come with them up
the other way.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Fast.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
You didn't want to be in the way. Anyways, then
I realized, well, I told my day, I said, must
be an airplane coming in the land at our the airport,
because our airport was word for that light was coming,
but it was a real small airport. Then I realized,
wait a minute. Our airport was so small it closed

(33:01):
down at nine o'clock. I mean after nine o'clock. There
was no flights coming in or out of it. So
I said, that can't be an aeroplane. Plus because I
thought it was its landing light. But there was only
one light, and I said that lot of neuroplane. So
I stopped the car. We get out one front of
the car. Now this is coming from the west. That

(33:23):
was still to the west to watching it, and it comes.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Almost over top of.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Us directly, just a little bit maybe fifteen degree angle
in front of us. Now I couldn't say how fast
it was gone because it was up so high. It's
hard to take judge, you know how fast something is going. Anyways,
this isn't got over over top of us there in
front of us, that did a ninety degree slide north.

(33:56):
As soon as it did that, I do it wasn't
any of our aircraft. We don't have an aircraft that
could do that stuff back in nineteen seventy two. We
kept watching that and it went to where it was, oh,
I would say, about the size of a ping pong ball.
I mean almost couldn't see it.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
But it didn't stop. It just made a reverse.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
The same course it did want did the ninety degree
slide nor Us, And as it was getting closer, we
both received the message telepathic message. It said, we're not
interested in you. And we looked at each other like
saying what And it goes right over top of us directly,

(34:40):
and it goes south and it goes probably the same
distance because it was almost out of psych a little ball.
It started back and as it comes back, it was
coming back the same thing again. We got another telepathic message.
I said, we're not interested in your planet. Then as
soon as I heard that, I knew they wasn't talking

(35:02):
about me and her, because at first when I heard it,
I thought they mount us two.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Anyways, as it.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Got real close to where it did the ninety degrees
slide nor we received another telepathic message.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
It said, watch what we can do, and we just wait.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Both of us had our eyes blew down it because
we knew something was going to happen before they told us,
and it got worked did to turn and without slowing
down or anything, stopped Bednet's tracks just for a split second.
Then it took off so fast.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
To the east.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I mean, if you had a camera in your hand
and you knew when it was going to take off,
you couldn't react fast enough, and it was gone out
of sight. I mean before you could blink your eye
and we could tell it was headed out into deep space.
Then after that was over, I knew what happened to

(36:01):
me in sixty nine. What weren't dreams. I knew I
was being abducted. So that left me with a big question.
What was going on? What was happening in these abductions?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Well, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I never watched working on living on a farming country.
We never watched television very much. I mean that was
maybe on a rainy day and on Sunday nights we
used to watch Walt Disney. That was about as much
TV as I watched. I never seen anything on TV
about extraterrestrials or people being abucted until way later in life. Well,

(36:52):
in seventy five, I got married and I put all
that stuff behind me, had an instant family and at there.
Well it went on, and then in the eighties I
got out of farming. I got tired of it. Anyways,

(37:13):
I had started. Oh, I think it was Ronald Reagan
in the late eighties. He was given a speech at
the UN and he was talking about some bad aliens
coming to Earth and like Russia and China we're all
working together. Well, that triggered something. I knew something about

(37:34):
ed aliens. Now, this is what put me on the
the hunk. I called because I wanted to know what
was going on. So I started watching trying to find things.
And through the nineties I started seeing, you know, a
lot of stuff about abductions and things like that. But

(37:56):
once in a while something would trigger something like seeing
things about the moon landings and stuff like that. And
I knew the moon had three colors to it.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
It was I call it.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I call it like an off white or an antique
white color, a gray color, and orange or rusty color.
I kept thinking, why do I know about this? Then
I kept a base on the moon. I said, what
why would I know this? So I didn't know who

(38:33):
to turn for for any help. I didn't know nothing
about move on. All that of course I did learn
about them, but there was so many years I just
ordered you know, they would just not do anything about
it or nothing they could do with check on it.
So anyways, in two thousand, my wife and I we

(38:56):
finally we decided we wanted to go different directions. So
in seventy two weeks or ninety two, we got a
divorce and I kept the house that we had, and
I had a brother that was living in Florida while
he he wanted me to come down there with him.

(39:19):
So I decided, Yeah, I'll go down with him.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
And he and him and his wife.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
So I uh and on just a second, So so

(39:55):
I uh.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Decided I would sell my house and go down with him.
So the people that I was selling the house to,
they they was the son of one of my neighbors
I was friends with. Well, anyways, I I sold it

(40:20):
to Diamond. They let me stay there for a couple
of months. I could get all my personal information I've
taken care of for my personal things, taking care of well.
The last month I was there, Oh, this real strange
thing happened. I mean I thought it was actually sleep

(40:41):
at me because when I tried to go to sleep,
it was like something was folding me down. I couldn't move,
you know. I read up on it and it was
all the signs of having that uh whatever just called
it anyways, Uh, I was being helped down as on

(41:07):
my back, I was on the table.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
And there was a big right leg above me.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
About oh it was probably between my waists and my
knees up in the in the fort the ceiling like
operating room in the hospital. Well, as I was laying there,
I thought I must be wounded. I thought, why am
I thinking thinking that?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Is that there these four objects would come out of
the dark into the white, and they reminded me of dominoes.
As one would move forward a little bit, another one
would come behind it. This was happening all four. There

(41:59):
was one on each side toward my shoulders and one
on each leg between my knees and my ankles. Well
as the first one. For the first one of them
would get up towards my shoulders my legs. Shortly after
that another one would be moving forward and another one

(42:22):
behind that, and each one would go into the first one,
and they would start to take a shape, but never
take a full shape, because there's a couple of them
got there, I could. I was free, you know, and
it was gone. Well this one for a whole month,
and I just I couldn't take it no more. I

(42:44):
was going to call. It was on a Friday night,
and when it happened, I said, this is no more
of this. I says, I'm going to call a psychiatrist.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
They knew.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
First thing Monday, because I knew he was closed on
the weekends.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I know. Sleep paralysis is what I thought I had.
That was a sleep paralysis.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Anyways, when Saturday came, and it happened when I went
to bed again, and so I said Sunday, when I
got up, I thought to myself, I'm gonna come up
with this idea. As I said, I'm just gonna when

(43:32):
they come, I'm just gonna wait there. I'm not gonna
try to fight to get loose and see what happened.
So Sunday night came, of course it came.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
This time I tried not to fight. Now I have
I have two bottles going on.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
One is trying to fight loose and one is for
me fighting not to fight, try to get loose.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I just laid there the best I could and they come.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Well, as they joined now the shape is more than
when all of them got into each one of them,
all four of them there It was the same bean
I seen in my first abduction. On the other side
of the ramp. There was four of them, the ones

(44:19):
on my shoulder or up by my shoulder that they
had their hands on each my my left and right shoulder,
and a hand on my on my just above my elbow,
and my hand was on table with my my palms down,
and the same ones with on my legs.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
They had their hands a hand just above my knee pushing.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Down and a whold of my ankles, and I'm picking
my head up looking the thing. I got wounded, but
I still think, why am I thinking I've been wounded? Anyways,
after a short period of time, the stall extraterrestrial comes
out of the dark. It was about, oh is it come?

(45:03):
It was just below my I would say, my waist.
And when it gets under the light, I can see
it to its kind of blacks the light now because
before the light so where I can't look directly up
the same one I seen when I was out of
the body, and I was told, so you will not
be afraid. So it comes up to me just at

(45:29):
my waist, takes its left hand, puts it.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
On my chest. It's calm of the Tan. It's just
below my.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
H sober plot shakes here below the chest, and its
fingers are all the way up, just below my Adam's
apple and only three fingers, just like what I was
shown the image of. Well, anyways, it takes its right
hand and it reaches up and I can see this
instrument of here or it grabs it and it starts

(46:02):
to pull it down, pulling it down, I can see,
Oh my god, it's a huge syringe.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
It's got a needle for it. It's getting closer. I said,
oh my god, it's gonna stick me in the eye.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
It's gonna hurt like hell. And I kind of like
preparing for it because I know it's gonna hurt when
it sticks me in the eye with it. Well, as
it gets closer, does it's not coming towards my eyes,
going towards my forehead, and it touches me just before
just above my eye, with the corner of my eye

(46:38):
would be the fridge of my nose, and none of
it touches me. It's like an avalanche of information coming
into my head. I mean, there was so much of it,
I couldn't absorb it all. Well, anyways, after it happened, Oh,

(47:01):
my head hurt so bad. I thought I was going
to explode. And they were gone.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
There was no more.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I was right away, and I remembered what happened in
each of the abductions. Okay, the first time I was abducted,
they took me to the to the Moon on a
base on the back side of the Moon as we
call it now. When I was walking down the ramp

(47:26):
from the ship, it was close to a crater maybe
where the ramp was maybe three foot it was the crater,
and I could see above me. I could see the
shape of the ship. It was saucer shape. Now I
have a chaperone with me.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
But also.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I'm not just walking down this ramp. I'm in a spacesuit.
And as I step off the ramp, because I'm kind
of like being and maid to walk down it, step
on the Moon's surface and I sink down into it.
My other foot goes on and I sink more and

(48:12):
kind of take my feet and shuffling back and forth,
and I'm sinking right down and I probably want above
my ankles a little bit It reminded me of well,
just like walking in flower and that's where I seen
the different colors, the off white, the grayish color.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
And the orange and red.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Well, anyways, after I did that, I kind of whipped
out and I could see the crater. Down in the crater,
I can see, I don't know, there's maybe two or
three tall buildings, and there's like blood lights coming off
of two of them, and they're shining down and I
can see on my left and my right side there's

(48:59):
like these quants some hunts coming off these buildings. And
the next thing I remember, I was at the end
of the one quantum hunt that was to my left.
There's a light flashing down. There's a platform there, and
told to go up onto the platform and go through

(49:20):
the doors and stop. I went through the doors and
I stopped geors mother set. They were like swinging doors
if they only swung one one way, And as I
was stopping there, this missed. It like a fog came down.

(49:40):
It probably lasted like thirty or forty five seconds. Then
I was told to wait until it cleared and go
through the other doors, and it probably like thirty seconds
or so it cleared and I went through the door
and I was told to turn go left and go
into that room. Well, it didn't have the room didn't

(50:00):
have no door. It was part of the quantum haut.
It was the end of it. And UH topped the
roofwork down to the ground. Well, there was a man there.
He told me to stand there and he was going
to help me out of my face suit. Well he did.

(50:21):
The first thing he took out, he unhooked some hoses.
Then he took off my helmet and helped me out
of the suit. Then I was there. He took and
he got got me undressed. I was still just my
T shirt and underwear. Well, he told me to take
him off. He put like a hospital down on me.

(50:43):
He had me turn around and he tied it in
the back for me. Then he took my underwear T shirt.
He fulled him up, put him on his clipboard that
had some paperwork on it, and he put more I
think they were more down because the pile was quite high.
When he handed me the saying, he told me to
go out and go to my left. He said, go
down to the other set of doors down there. Some

(51:04):
doors would have been underneath the buildings. He said to
your left will be another gentleman down there.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
For you to see. So as I'm going down, I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
To see if there's any windows and the crops some huts,
see if I could see outside. Well, there wasn't any,
and I got my eye looked up and I could
see stars.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
It was clear. It was like it wasn't a windows.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It was long, but it was like I was just
looking through the quantum Hunt material itself. And as I
walked down through there, and I could, like I said,
I could see the stars and it was kind of
like an S shape even back left and right stuff. Well,
I got down to where the other gentleman when he

(51:51):
told me come in, he said, have a seat, and
he took the footboard from me with the clothes on,
and he took the clothes off of it and he
sold out one or two papers. Then he put the
clothes back on footboard handed to me, told me to
go out there, go out.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
And got the doors to.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
The left of me, which would have been underneath the
two buildings. Well, anyways, as I went through that one,
I had to go to the right a little bit,
so that way, well, just before I got to them doors,
I blacked out. I don't remember anything, so anyways, on it.
That's that's an abduction. It was a test for fear. Now,

(52:41):
when I woke up, I was standing up and I
was opening my eyes real slow.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I mean I was.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Being controlled to open my eyes slow, and I could feel,
Oh my god, I never had anything like like it before.
Since then something was right in my mind. I mean,
it was like two minds together. And as I'm opening
my eyes slowly, it's not a telepathic message, I mean,

(53:13):
it's more than that. And it tells me you're forbidden
to turn around and look at them. And I'm pops
into my head right away. Who's them? Why can't I
look at them? Who's them? And it tells me this
is a test for fear. And now all this is

(53:37):
going on at the same time. Now, as I'm looking
out looking, I'm trying to see where I'm at. I
see a window in front of me, but it's not
a window, just like it's looking right through the wall
of the ship and I could see it's really brock
out there. But I'm still looking around and see where
I am. Well, this thing is telling me this is

(54:00):
a test for fear. They want to see your reaction
to No One, you're in space and you're not on
your planet. And as I look looking out the window
and look down to my left a little bit, I
see this planet. Oh it's a beautiful blue color, and
I realized it was Earth. Now, it was somewhere between

(54:22):
the size of a copper ball and the basketball. But
even that far away, I mean, once you see Earth
with your own eyes from space, no picture does.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
It just well?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Anyways, I keep asking it, I keep thinking, why can't
I see these?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
And it told me. It says it was a group
of five beams from other planets.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
They want to see and know your reaction, and one
human military person. They all want to see what you're
reaction to no one knows. Two things. Then it continues
to tell me that they they be in that group

(55:11):
of five extraprescials.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
They want.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
All humans to know about them. But they have rules,
and one of the rules is before they make full
contact with any planet, all ruling powers. That's what it
told me. Ruling powers for a fear on Earth is
governments have to agree on it, and if just one

(55:41):
says no, they won't make full contact.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
And that was that was the end of the second one.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Now, the third time they took me, well, they took
me to and when I was going down to the
ramp of the ship, I see to my left now, well,
I was looking around to see where I was at,
and it was a big cave, I mean really big,

(56:19):
and off to my left, I see a bunch of
people standing the line like for military inspection. And there's
this man. He's in front of him. He's pacing back
and forth and looking at him, and as he gets
to the end towards me, he looks over and looks
at me, and he starts at the top of his

(56:42):
voice giving the speech. He says, welcome to Mars. Now
why he's saying this. He's walking back and forth in
front of front of everybody and looking at me.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
At times he says, like I said, he said, welcome
to Mars. He says, you've been drafted into a secret
space program. Huh.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
He says it's called the Secret Space Force. And he
continues to say. He says, you're going to be here
for a while. He says, we have one mission for you,
and one mission only, And he says you don't have
to worry about being missed. And I thought to myself,

(57:26):
what the hell does he mean? I won't be missed?
I said, as soon as they call me for milking
and I'm not there, they're going to know that I'm missing.
So that was what happened in the third debuction. Now
I'm going to stop here for now. The next part
is is quite long. So what do you think about it?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
So far?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
It's very interesting and I have questions about some of
the stuff. But do you still have experiences today with
them or do they have that kind.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Of stopped Well, yes, I do. I don't have nothing
like that. Now. After after all that.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
There, I found out that I can call him craft.
Now I've showed people, so I have witnesses to that.
And my partner now I told her about it.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
They're in the Philippines. That's where I'm staying right now.
He told me.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
She says, oh, you're dreaming. So one night after supper,
we got done with supper, probably maybe seven thirty or so.
I after supper, she did dishes and stuff, so it's
probably close to like nine o'clock now, So I told
her to come outside with me and I do what

(58:48):
I do to call him in.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
I mean, it's it's it's nothing, really simple.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
And I went out and I sat down in a
chair and she was there, and I did my thing
and no time at all. I mean it only takes seconds.
I mean, it don't take very long. It just takes seconds,
and not one but two drafting and you seeing after
after she saw him. She kind of shocked me what

(59:16):
she said, because nobody ever said anything. Most people just
I don't know. It's maybe it's big shock on them.
They don't still don't believe it and stuff like that.
But anyways, he told me, says, oh, your hurt and
your hearts must be close. I mean, it kind of
shocked me because I've never had anybody say anything like
that to me.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Now she believes me.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
And I told people, if you don't believe me, if
you want to pay for going on their hip narsiss
or even truth for them, I'll do it and they'll
find out I'm telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Did you ever understand why they chose you?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Oh yeah, well, let me let me finish up one
other other thing on that.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
You said. It's some now I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
That was the last time when I called them men.
That's the last time I called called any craft. And
I just because I just felt that I was doing
it for my own game. So I stopped doing it.
Well about a year later, I kind of kind of
missed it doing it, so I said, I'm going to

(01:00:23):
try something else.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Alls I did is I asked them. But what I
do is all I do is ask him. I said,
just show me that you're real, and like the craft
will show right up. And so I said, well, show
me that you yourself are real, in other words, you know,
the alien itself. Well I did that one one day,

(01:00:51):
and two days later I had one show right up
in our apartment. Now I don't know if that was
related to me saying that for them to show me
proved me that the real or if it was just
someone else, But it looked like a It.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Looked like a really young alien. To me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
It was only like, well, I don't know here in
the Philippines, I don't know if the the striker plate
for the door is at the same height, probably like
three and a half feet off the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Its head was only there a height, but it looked young.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I mean, the skin was real tight on it, and
it just I don't know, just to me, it just
looked like a really young. Alien done done one time.
Oh it was Christmas eve, Like I don't remember what
year it was in, maybe four years now. Anyways, here

(01:01:53):
they play their music extremely loud. I mean you can
hear it a mile away. They play their music so loud.
He when it was at New Year's they didn't stop
playing it. It was about a quarter after three or so. Well,
I went to bed, yeah, exactly three twenty five, right,

(01:02:14):
I set the clock and I went to bed. Well,
I was laying on my left side, and I was
just laying there that not thinking about anything, just kind
of like trying to clear my mind so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I could fall asleep. Close my eyes. Well, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Ahead of a actually pressure I could see it like
on my eyelids, out my eyes because like what the
heck oot my eyes? Then on the wall, well, we
kept a bathroom light onto like a night light, and
it let off enough light that I could see my
room because it was painted white. And I seen, like

(01:02:58):
I seen that one, but it was on the wall,
and maybe five or six other ones. There was one
that was a little smaller now the one I the
one I saw like on my inside of my eyes
there my eyelids that looked like a male.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I'm sure it was a male.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Then there was another one, just not right behind it,
but off to its uh, it would be its right
side a little bit. I was looking at it to
be left and my left. Anyways, its head was bigger,
but it had a look of a female. Then there
was like four or five other small ones. I know
they were young, like children, And I don't know what

(01:03:36):
they was trying to tell me. They ain't say nothing
or anything, because as long as I kept my eyes open,
they was there. But it looked like they was crying.
I don't know if they were trying to tell me
there was something wrong with them, or if it was
going to be something happening to me. Anyways, I closed
my eyes and when I closed my eyes, they'd all

(01:03:57):
disappeared except for the one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Male adult.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
So I started pointing my eyes real fast. It just
would be on the wong.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
My eye like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
So I closed my eyes and I rolled to my
right and they were gone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
It was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
That was a kind of a strange thing. Then here
are a couple of weeks ago, I was laying in bed.
At this time, I was in a boat, like on
a river or something like that, and they came and
it was the same ungs that one male and female
and a bunch of young ones. And I don't know

(01:04:35):
if they're trying to give me a message telling me something,
or if something's wrong with them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Yeah. Well we can pick this back up here again
soon and we can get this all finished up. But
I do appreciate you talking with me to here tonight,
And like I said, once I figure out a time,
I will let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Okay, And thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Yep, thank you. You have a good night. If you'd
like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tells, remember to
send an email to Tenfoil Telles Podcast at gmail dot
com or go to Tinfoil Tales dot com and go
to the contact section. Make sure to follow me around
on all the social media's and just remember truth comes
at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price?

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
I've heard a story lay last night about something alert
along a wood line, huge foot prints, strange lights in
the sky. They claim it's nothing, but I know they
light it sees theer last to lap in my face.

(01:05:41):
But something about this makes me say, what if it's real?
What if they knew? What if the answers are coming
from you, spending story, wasting my time, hearing boics? Is
it all in their minds? They can call me crazy,

(01:06:03):
but I just want some froom. What if it's true?
What if it's really? What if it's true? What if
the worlds not what we do?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Tim All tales blend me a story.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
That starts where the line is get what if it's real?
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting
for you. They see if the dog man walking, or
maybe am offman flies? I love the fairy giants hidden
beneath the lies. They say, it's just stories, It's all

(01:06:42):
they believe, the fairy tale sport of things we can't perceive.
They want to keep us blindly, They want to break
our wheel. But I'm not buying it. I'm not stowing
another pill forest sped poison. The lines were made.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
To what if the truth could set us free?

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
The aliens suos traveling through time, secret space programs, racing
their minds. They call them crazy, but I just need
some fruit. What if it's true? What if it's real?
What if it's true? What if the worlds not what

(01:07:22):
we do? Till Ooil tells fulieve me in a story
that starts where the logic iss What if it's real?
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're weighing
for you. They lie, We all can die. The signs

(01:07:44):
are there if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
You open your eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Aliens cricked its demon's ghost the leveled them too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
What if it's me or.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
What if it's real?

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
What if it's real? What if it's true? What if
the world's not? What way to do? Tenfoil tells fullyeve
me a story that starts wearing the logic? What if
it's read? What if it's true? The answers are waiting,

(01:08:18):
They're waiting for you. It's all in our heads, it's
always our binders. These voices can be silence.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
The truth must rise.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Timple tell it's pulling me through. What if it's reading?
What if it's true,
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