Ep. 211: My Paranormal Life

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was done.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I wasn't deal with that. The hypocrisy of the cult
is one of the things that turned me.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Away the quickest.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
looked at us. And one of the things I remember
the most, where the eyes were going red. I see
an orb of light.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is just circling these steps like it is waiting
for me.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
They're basically like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle,
noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye
contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back
to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Tonight. We're joined
by my guest Jay Jay. Thanks for coming on here

(01:12):
and talking to me.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Would you like to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself before we get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Sure, my name is Jay Hill.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
I am if another podcast sir. I have several different
shows over the years, but I have several different shows
right now. Actually, Paranormal memoirs and Paranormal Saloon and thirty two,
which I just launched yesterday. So yeah, I'm basically an

(01:44):
investigator medium.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
All the above.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
I do walk throughs, like video walkthroughs for people paranormal
teams that need help with that. And yeah, I'm part
of K two Paranormal and Out in Tennessee with Kelly Shaper. Yeah,
so'm I do a lot of different podcasts. I interviewed
a lot of different people, and I just try to

(02:09):
keep busy doing what I love and you know, doing
with the parano spiritualism and all those things.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Kelly was one of the first people that I interviewed
when I started almost three years ago.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
It was Kelly Shaper.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, she's yeah, she's like, we're actually Me and Kelly
are actually related. She's actually like like a distant cousin.
H So, yeah, she's a very good researcher and there's
a lot of historical research for families and stuff like that,
and does a lot of ancestry ancestral stuff and just

(02:49):
how she found out that we were related. And it's
really fun and it was quite popular, but it just
got to the point where we just didn't have enough
time to do it, and so we kind of just
put it on a hiatus and we will probably revisit it.

(03:11):
And we just talked about that yesterday. I talked to her
on the phone quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Sokay, yep, well what got you in to all this?
Obviously the paranormal side with podcasts and everything, because usually
an event that gets someone interested in all this. So
what was yours?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Mine? Was?

Speaker 5 (03:32):
I have this saying that, you know, it's not so
much that I followed the paranormal, it's the paranormal has
followed me throughout.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
My life since a child.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Since I was a child, and I've had paranormal experiences.
Seeing my first full body apparition when I was sixteen,
I became I was always into the unex flamed and
I used to read books. I think the first book,

(04:04):
the paranormal book I read was Ghosts by Daniel Cohen,
and I remembered it was a blue book. It was
blue cover, and I think I read that in fourth grade.
And after that I was I was more hooked, and
so I'd love to read paranormal books and whatnot. So
I kind of just over the years started doing that.

(04:27):
But then I started realizing that I had some gifts
that I would have. I would see certain things or
hear certain things, and just yeah, it was really weird.
It was kind of like my gifts were there and
they didn't really open up until later in life. And

(04:48):
so yeah, that's basically it's not something that I just
jumped into.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's it's kind of like my whole life.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
So you've been basically you've had these experiences your whole
life that's kind of just led you to where you
are now. Like correct, Well, if there's anything specific from
those experiences or whatever you'd like to talk about, we'd
love to hear it.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, there's a couple.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
So back in two thousand and thirteen, I actually had
a stroke. And after that stroke and after I recovered, and.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I really.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Was trying to gain my footing and everything I was doing,
including trying to get back to work and my body
and all that stuff. Well, come to find out that
my brain actually was working in a different way. And
I wait, about about a year or so after that,
my gifts of mediumship started coming through, which I knew

(06:03):
I had before, but I never really paid too much
attention to it. So basically I I kind of it
just it just happened, and I was more focused on
the spiritual side of things, and I was, you know,

(06:25):
experiencing my my medium ship more hands on and sort
of doing reading for people and sort of doing research.
And then I got a mentor and she worked with
me for six months to a year and really kind
of just to hone my gifts a little bit more.

(06:46):
But I kind of she just basically told me that
she really didn't want to put me in a class
or anything because she said that I was wayed farther
advanced than I realized, and so she kind of was
mentoring me one on one. And so yeah, that was

(07:07):
about a year, and then I just kind of started
doing things myself and I the paranormal and investigations and
using my gifts for that, and so yeah, I I really.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Was.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
It was intriguing to me because you know, this was
I knew, like I said, I knew my gifts were there,
but I never really pursued them. But now since I
had that stroke in twenty thirteen, it was kind of
like because of that, that door to my gifts one
wide open, and I couldn't avoid it, to be honest

(07:49):
with you, So.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I just embraced it.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
And that's you know, I doing my podcast and I
started to helping other gifted people and it's just it's
been a plethora of different avenues that I've taken, and
it's it's been a really great few, you know, five
six years that I've had some really good people in

(08:14):
my life, people in my life that I just really
learned a lot from and.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
That I've helped out.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
And so yeah, I keep my circle pretty small. I don't,
you know, I used to go to para cons, but
I don't really go to too many anymore.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I I'm kind of a loner.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So I've got a few that I'm doing this year,
but I don't know if I'm want to continue to
do it. I figured I'd go all the way out
on this one and then after that, we'll just see
how it plays out.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
But it's not that I don't like para cons. There's
ones that I've that I've been invited to that my
my feeling was, maybe I need to rethink, rethink this,
you know.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean, I just.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Not to say that all para cons are bad or
anything like that. It's just if I don't feel led
to really to want to go to these places.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
You know or put myself out there. I won't.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
You know, if I don't want to do something, I'm
not going to do it. But I don't want to
go to a para con just because you know. I
mean I could kind of take him or leave them.
I mean, I don't not like them, but they're not
my favorite thing either, right. No, I've ran into some
great people at a couple of them, but then I've

(09:40):
also ran into a lot of drama and a lot
of other things that I just kind of stay away from.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You'll have that in any sort of community, but I've
especially noticed it within this community when it comes to
anything paranormal, CRYPTI or UFO. There is a lot of drama.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
There is, and it's it's kind of sad, but yeah,
I just kind of keep myself away from some of
that drama and.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I just don't like to get involved. And you know,
I've got other things.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
That I do that I like to focus on, you know,
like my other shows and.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
My interviews and my stories and you know, helping.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Other teams that need a medium to do walkthroughs, and
you know, it's just I keep myself pretty busy.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I just have a booth set up, I stay at
my table and I talk to people as they come by,
and that's about it. I don't go out on my
way to.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, me and me and excuse me.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Me and Kelly did that the first year that we
when we went with the Cemetery files, we had our
booths set up and everything, and yeah, it was funny
because she she would she would go kind of networking
and meeting people.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
In this net and she said, you can just stay
here and watch the booth.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
And I'd be like, Okay, About five minutes later, I
got really restless and bored, and then I left and
nobody was watching the booth. And then then I would
go upstairs and where we were at this pair count
and she's like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
She's like, you to watch the booth, and I'm like,
I got bored, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
So yeah, it's just one of those things where, you know,
we we did have quite a few people come up
to our booth, but and you know, purchased a couple
things from Kelly, but it just it was just different.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I think for a lot of these events, you'll meet
a lot of cool people, and it's not the people
that come through or anything like that it's usually the
other people that are involved in the community that seem
to be the reason that there's always those issues. It's
I've never met anyone like the a listener or anything
like that that's ever been a problem. But I was

(12:00):
it won recently. And this was sometime last year in
a priest came in, which it's not a big deal
to me, but he started praying because he said this
thing because it was around Halloween, we were I guess
he thought that by coming in there, he was praying
away the evil spirits that we were summoning by having

(12:20):
a paranormal event. And he took up the shop right
next to where my booth was, and he's doing all
the train and everything else, and he was bringing in
like Latin I believe, And it was just odd. They
didn't ask me to leave. They just asked him to
if he's going to do it, to go over in
this specific area, not be blocking people's boose or whatever.

(12:42):
So I was like, why am I the one being
targeted here? I was like, I'm just a podcast.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, that is kind of odd. That would that would
have been a really great conversation to have.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, I was to be one hundred percent of economy.
Of all the things that I've seen that made me
the most like kind of creeped out, just was like,
why do you, like, of all plays, come right next
to me to start doing like you know something that
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Right?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
That's what I was going to say. Do you know
something that you know you don't know?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah? That's funny.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Is there I know you've said you've done like podcasts
and other things. Is there anything that you've done here
recently that stands out to where something we can talk about, Like,
I know you've had multiple shows and I know obviously
we know, Kelly. Is there anything specifically like that you've
done that you'd like to share? Well?

Speaker 5 (13:36):
I did do a psychic block through a video. Actually
it's on my YouTube page with the Encompass Encompass Media
and I did it was for my friend Kelly, Kelly Schaeffer,
and she was working with her team K two Paranormal

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at a private RESI resident and she asked me to
do the walkthrough with her. Now, she knew some of
the stuff there and she had picked up on some
of the stuff and she had talked with the owners
and they kind of confirmed that now I didn't know
anything about this place, and I actually have that video

(14:20):
up on YouTube on.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
My Encompass media page.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
And so we were doing the walkthrough of this house
and I was getting things quite quickly, and she even said,
she said, these are things that even the homeowner and
myself have not even discussed. So when I was picking

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up on things and explain things that I was seeing,
and then she would, you know, bring it up with
the because the homeowners were sitting there as well, and
she's holding her camera around and she was talking to
her about certain things that I had picked up on
and they were like, we totally forgot about that and

(15:06):
they didn't talk about it, and you know, they validated that,
and it was just a really great experience that I
don't know, it was just I felt really connected at
that time, and Kelly was really amazed that I was

(15:26):
able to pick up on them, not only all the things.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
That she picked up because she's gifted as.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Well, but other things that she didn't pick up on,
and that the homeowner was able to validate that and
kind of answered some questions to.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
What that was.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Where Kelly wasn't really quite sure when she had told
me later what it was, but yeah, it was. It
was one of those things where I had kept I
kept getting dogs like labbit, like I'm not labbat, or
like Irish Setter dogs, and there was like one of

(16:07):
them that was really just that I kept seeing it
going through this house and playing and this and that,
and come to find out that there's several of these
Irish Setters buried in the backyard.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
So Kelly never even knew that.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
And the owners were saying, yeah, there's some dogs that
are buried back there, and that makes sense to what
some of the activity is because this dog was just
like all over the place, you know what, kind of
like a playful dog that just and I told her,
I said when she was when we're when I was
doing the walkthrough, and I said, if you've ever seen

(16:50):
that movie up that pixel that pix Our movie, and
it's got the dog that can talk with a collar
that makes him speak. Yeah, yeah, so that's what that
dog reminded me of, was that, because it was so
active and so just everywhere.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
And they thought that was funny. So that was good.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
That was probably almost a half hour or so. That's
that videos up. But yeah, I really enjoyed doing that.
I've done that a couple other times. I did a
psychic walk through with Tarren Kirper with with her podcasts.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
And.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
It was it was in Gettysburg, and that was really
cool because I love I love I love Gettysburg.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
I've never been there.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
And I want to go there, but I I know
that I would just have a field day walking through there,
you know.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
So that was a good time too. So there's other
things that I've done that.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
I I'd like to find answers for people, you know,
And it's sense so much that I don't really do
private readings anymore or anything like that, and I don't
like charge money for that or you know, it's just
if I feel prompted to do so, if somebody asked me,
then yeah. But I just I'm not one of those
that I don't look for fame, I don't look for fortune.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
I don't you know what I mean. I'm really kind
of down to earth.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
And you know, if I'm with somebody and they know
about my gifts and they ask and whatnot, if I
feel prompted, you know, I'll talk about it. But if
I just tell them, I'm I don't get anything. I'm
not promted. I don't really prompt it. I don't get anything.
And my motto is, if I don't see it, I
don't say it.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
There is no fame in fortune to podcast or the
paranormal around unless you've somehow managed to right, make it right,
make it super famous, which you ever got your chance,
probably be instruck by lightning.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
I would agree, that's one hundred percent, you know. I mean,
so when people say that it's a hobby, it's that's
exactly what it is, right, you know. And you can
be all in on it, and you could spend your
money the way you want to spend it. If you've
got you know, you know, empty pockets where you can
have endless money come you know, through your hands, that's great.

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But people that are you know, like me, we're nine
to five people, you know, and we don't have.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Extra cash that we can. You know.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I stopped spending money on any type of paranormal equipment
years ago.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I just recently got some because I have a Kickstarter
that I set up because of the documentary, and I've
had people ask about wanting to help out. So I
set up a Kickstarter and I bought some paranormal stuff
for it. But I've also bought cameras mm hmm, and
we actually took some out this past weekend and we
were doing some filming and I took a my spirit

(19:58):
box to this area, so one of the most haunted
places around here, and I didn't get anything and my
meter didn't pick up anything. I was like, okay, so
that story in my life.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
I have had all of that equipment, all the equipment
that you've seen on TV pretty much, I've had it,
and it just I had to come to realize that
I am my best meter. You know, I'm the best
piece of equipment that I'm going to find. And yeah,
I mean some of it works and some of it's

(20:30):
just junk, and but it is what it is, you know.
But yeah, I just I kind of gave up on
that whole. But you know, I'm also like, like you said,
you were starting a documentary. I actually was working on
a documentary. I still am. It's just I couldn't get

(20:53):
any funding for it. It was just too expensive and
so I kind of shelved it. And but part of
it is going to Gettysburg and starting there, and you know,
I'm just doing the research and because I have ancestral
ties to Gettysburg on the Confederacy side, and you know,

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so I just I want to do that research. I
want to be able to talk with historians, excuse me,
historians and other people.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
And I love.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
That that a that era, you know, the eighteen hundreds
and you know with all the Victorians sell homes and.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I love all that. You know.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, I would love to go to Gettysburg. I've never
been there myself. I think it'd be really interesting, but
it's expensive, you know, That's what I've heard.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I mean, I went to Tombstone last year because I
thought I was going to kind of I was going
to go to get to start my my h the documentary,
but I really couldn't afford it. So I thought, well,
the wild West is going to be part of that documentary,
why don't I go to get to Tombstone and to
see you know, I'm I went there and I was

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kind of disappointed. I really was. I mean, I know,
I had made some friends with you know, some people
online that were expecting me to come there and to
film them, to interview them. And when I got there,
I got crickets, you know, I got they didn't want
to talk to me, and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
You know, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Have a large camera crew in tow and so I
had my handheld I had my my my documentary and
my podcast tags on me so that people knew that
I was doing some type of work in the paranormal
and what. And I talked with a couple of people,

(23:05):
the Chamber of Commerce people which I had talked to
the lady there and she says, oh, yeah, we'd love
to be interviewed, and doesn't be on camera?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Da da da.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
When they found out that it was just me with
my handheld camera, that wasn'tn't good enough, they really didn't
want to be on camera anymore. I'm like, well that
kind of sucks, you know. I mean when I walked
into the bird Cage Theater, the first thing, the lady
was like, you know, asking some questions. I said, I'm

(23:34):
working on a documentary. Oh really, And I told her.
She said, oh, these are all the people, all the
television shows that have been here, and gave me this
big list. I'm like, oh, that's great, but unless I
wanted to pay a thousand dollars, I couldn't use my
camera to film.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Anything in there.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
I was like, wow, okay, so I just took my phone,
you know, And I went in there by myself and
I took my phone and it took a bunch of pictures.
Couldn't take video though, you know. So I was like, well,
I guess if I don't have a large camera crew
in tow and I'm not certain people from TV, I

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guess I don't really have any standing there. So I
was really kind of disappointed. But it was a cool experience,
don't get me wrong, but it was kind of sad.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I've never been out that way far as like, I've
been out west and I've been into I think Jerome
was one of the places in the Sedona and stuff,
but I've never been to Tombstone. But Jerome, I think
is one of.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
The most haunted.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yes, and I've been there, and again I I didn't
go pair a normal investigator or anything. I was just
there for a day. But I mean, it was a
cool little place. But I wasn't there nighttime or nothing.
So I have no idea how long it really is.
But I've always heard stories about it.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yes, I have too. One of my best friend's mom,
his mom lives in Phoenix, and she's the one who
told me about Jerome while I was going to Tombstone
and I only had four days, and I had a
rental car, and I really didn't want to drive way
out of my way, and I wanted just to go

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to Tombstone. I wanted to experience Tombstone. Now, don't get
me wrong, Tombstone is great. I mean, the food there
is fantastic, the ambiance is great. You know, the spirits
that were there were you know, not really that shy.
And you know, I had an experience when I was
walking at night because I was staying at a cabin

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right at the end of Allen Street and so everything
was in walking distance for me. So when I was
I had big those gates, which has some of the
best food I've ever ate, and I walked out of
there and I.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Was walking by myself. Now, mind you, it's there. It's
something to.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Be said for silence in Tombstone because you're you're out
in the desertise basically, and there isn't really that much
traffic at night, especially during the week. So when you
when you stand out there on Allen Street and you're
in the thick of Tombstone and there are no cars,

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you can literally hear a pin drop. It is so quiet.
It is just it's it's amazing. So when I was
walking back from the restaurant, I had footsteps on the
boardwalk behind me and I stopped.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
It stopped.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
I'm like, okay, So I tried it again and I
could hear it, and I said, oh, okay, just go
on the side of me instead of behind me.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
That makes me nervous.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
So about five seconds later I heard footsteps in the
gravel next to me, and that was pretty cool. So
but that was the only that was the first night
I was there that that that happened, and that was
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
When we were filming this past weekend, we were hearing
footsteps off to the sides of us and something I
didn't pick it up on thermal. We were trying to
see what it was. I didn't show up on thermal
and kept hearing noise, kept getting closer, and the air
we're at its supposed to be haunt it, but it's
also supposedly been like a sightings for like Bigfoot or whatever.

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So I'm getting all excited, like, hopefully something shows up,
and we keep hearing this noise, and sure enough, something
does show up and it's a possum. Yeah, it comes
walking out, looks at us, stops a few seconds, and
keeps on walking. I got all out on videos, so
it might make it might make the documentary.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, so we heard weird noises here and there, but
far as any sort of evidence, I haven't went through
the video portion of it yet, but we were out
there for about an hour, and I don't know what
we got on the I have a full spectrum camera,
so who knows what's all on that? And then some
of the other things, Like I said, we had a
thermal And for the documentary itself, we've been using the

(28:27):
new iPhone sixteen pros because a lot of people are
The quality for them is comparable to what people are
been fill me in other documentaries with, like with DSLR cameras,
so it's ye, yep, it's not much different. We already
have these phones, so we've been putting them to use
and the quality looks really good.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
So right right, I'm an Android fan, I'm a Samsung fan,
and that's it. I do not like iPhone, but I
will say that the iPhone camera is is top.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I've always just had iPhone ever since smartphones came out.
I think the first one I had was maybe the
iPhone four. I just had iPhones ever since then.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
So I've always been a Samsung person, except when I
switched to Google Pixel one year, which I really liked
that phone. That phone was actually pretty pretty handy and
it had a lot of the stuff I was doing.
I was doing podcasts and stuff on it, so yeah,
it was pretty cool. And then I switched to the Samsung.

(29:35):
Now I've got a Samsung twenty Ultra. S twenty Ultra.
Now that's you know, that's pretty old, but I have
everything on that phone. All my podcasts, everything is on there,
and that phone is comparable to some of the new
Samsung as I come out now, because they actually discontinued

(29:56):
that S twenty Ultra six months after it came out
because they basically took the the what they made is
they somebody made it like too far advanced, and so
they had to pull it because all the stuff that's
in S twenty was supposed to be trickled into the

(30:19):
next three phones, and so when they did it, they
actually kind of overshot the mark and then they pulled it.
And S twenties are hard to come by, but if
you get one, I mean if people get one there.
This one's lasted me since I got it when it
came out, and I even I look at the stats

(30:40):
of this phone compared to the new phones from like
the twenty two's all the way up to the twenty fives,
and my phone is still comparable to that.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I don't go and upgrade all the time like
some people do. I we had thirteen's and then they
were paid off, and then we traded them in for
the sixteens. But that's because we also put our kids
on the plan, so we were eligible for free upgrades
and then so they got fifteens and we got sixteens.

(31:14):
But other than that, like I will keep a phone
for like three, four or five years, I.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Don't care, right, I have had mine for almost five years,
so so yeah, but yet you know, using it preparing
almost up I mean, I've done a lot of different
I've used a lot of camera shots for on my
phone for investigations and video video was great. When I

(31:40):
used my handheld four K camera and I had I
had my microphone hooked up. I don't know what happened,
but I don't have any sound on any of my
my shots with my handheld. I was so mad because
I had some really good shots for people walking down

(32:03):
the street, and you know, I had the camera on
the walk, on the boardwalk, on on the down on
the very lowest you know, you just see people's feet and.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
It looks really cool. But I had no audio.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
I was so I even got some shots at night
with tombstone, and I know I got I know I
got some stuff. And I know I heard stuff too
because I I hear I was hearing, you know, voices
when there was nobody on the street, nobody even near
the and I didn't get it on any of my

(32:41):
hand held.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
That was so mad.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
So yeah, that's the one thing that I've been wondering
about doing, is I also have a voice recorder. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
If it's yeah, but you got a voice recorder on
your phone, and I've you that on my phone. I
caught I've caught like two or three e vps, one
in a bar and one, uh one in a cemetery.
I was asking questions of you know, if there's anybody here,

(33:15):
anybody wants to talk whatever, And I was, you know,
parked in my car and I was it was during the.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Day and.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
I played it back and this female, young female said
her name and I'm like, oh wow, Well I look
over and I'm parked right in front of this person's
grave and that that was her name, and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Oh, well, that's pretty cool. And I got that on
my phone.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
So yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
So, I mean, people spend money on, you know, really
good voice recorders and this and that, and yeah, that
to each his own, but some of these phones have
really good voice recorders built in.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I accidentally left my road caster recording one night because
I'd interviewed someone and I'd stopped it. I didn't actually
stop recording on road casters. So I came out the
next day and it had been recording for twenty four hours.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I was like, I wonder if I caught any EVPs
because it's out out my studio area all by itself,
but it's just been recording. But I didn't even.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Did you really want to go through that many hours?
No at all? Review.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I looked at the style side and I uploaded, and
I didn't see any spikes after the interview was done,
so I just.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Like, I have nothing on there, right, Yeah, that's the worst.
I mean, listening to hours and hours of EVPs and
watching video and yeah, that's that's grewing. That's one of
the parts that I don't have a passion for. I'm
very impatient that way.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I am too. I do not like editing podcast stuff,
like I will do minimum editing if I can get
away with it, because I don't have the time, Like
I work a full time job and I've got a
family and everything else. So yeah, yeah, I don't have
all the time to spend editing, so I try and
clean things up the best I can, and then, right,

(35:19):
we just roll with it for the most part. But
when it comes to the documentary, I have a friend,
that's all. I mean, he's putting it all together, so
I don't have to worry about a lot.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Of that, right right, That's one of the things I
decided to do early on was.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
To let it just let it fly. When I do live,
it was so much easier.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
I mean, I could edit it, but why you know,
I mean that that's the whole thing. I mean, unless
it's just totally crazy, then yeah, i'll you know, but
I haven't. I've been pretty lucky, but I have had
shows where I've lost you know, signal and this and
that and doing live and you know, it sucks, but

(36:04):
I guess it's just that's just the adventure of going
live and you know, doing it that way. But I
do record, and there's been times where because I don't
want to edit, I'll restart a single episode probably a
dozen times before I get it to where I think
I did it good.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Enough, you know. And yeah, editing sucks.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
I mean I do a lot of editing for intros
and outros for people and.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
On my own stuff.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
I do all my own intros and outros, and I
do it on my phone because I have an app
on my phone that I've used that I've been using
it for two three years now. And I do have
an app or a program on my computer that's a
really expensive one, but so one on my phone works

(36:55):
just fine for what I need it for. So you
don't have to spend hundreds to hundreds of dollars for
editing program unless you're working for paramount, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
So I think there's certain things like equipment wise and
things that people are using and everything like, as you mentioned, like,
I don't think a lot of the stuff is actually needed,
but I felt like it was kind of cool to
have just to see if anything would actually get picked

(37:29):
up on it. But like the voice recorder, I can
put it directly into my computer and it should show
me everything that's on there theoretically, but who is to
say if it's not just picking up random noises. I
wish there was a way that would only record when
it actually can you Like, there might be something out

(37:50):
there that does I but like maybe if it hears
like a faint sound, it will record that, right, But
then anything that's quiet it won't actually record. I don't
how that works or if there's technology out there that
does that.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Well.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
There there are ones that that are that are voice activated,
so there are certain ones that you could have that
are like handheld ones that you could turn on and
you know, set it down, like set it down and
turn it on and it's technically off, but it'll turn
on if there's a noise. So if you're just sitting

(38:26):
there and you're not moving and you know what I mean,
it won't actually turn on to record unless it hears
the noise. And that's it's they say it's voice activated.
We have a we I used to have a couple
of those, but I was always turning it on and
saying something and then it would run, you know, and
so it would be like.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
A delay effect to right, So if something's faintly talking
in the background, it's not going to pick it up
from the beginning.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Right right, So you know. And and that's so you
can you can and I gotta weigh them out. And
there's the good and the bad with those, you know
what I mean. But yeah, there's there's still much different
stuff that's coming out now that you know.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I stopped keeping up. You know. I haven't seen any
of the new equipment.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Or anything like with the new EVPs or recorders or
anything like that that I just yeah, I just I'll
be like, I'll see it and I'll be like, oh,
that's new. That's kind of cool, you know. But but
here it is. It's you know, three four hundred dollars
and I'm like, yeah, no, I'm not buying it.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Say, I sold all my stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So the camera that I got is just a little
it almost looks like a little go pro, but it's
a full spectrum camera. And I bought the light attachment
with it, and then the stick that actually keeps everything
charges a charging stick so it all. It did pretty
well the other night, and then I I bought a thermal,
and the thermal has it records and takes photos of itself,

(40:04):
which I thought was weird, Like when I was looking
through the woods and it actually picked up a heat
signature or something, it took a photo of it. I
didn't even hit a button, So I thought that was
kind of neat that it actually since something that took
a photo.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Wow. But yeah, I've never owned one of those. I
always wanted to, but there's.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, this one was like five hundred, almost six hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
But but if you're an investigator and that's something that
is is you know that works for you, that's a
good piece of equipment to keep in your.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Arsenal, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, this is the first time we've actually taken it
out and used it. So I've been waiting for the
wet weather to get a little bit better. Now that
it's getting warmer out, it's not so uh terrible. Like
the one time we went out, I had this stuff
with me, but we were out during the day, so

(40:58):
don't really need it during the day. But now that warm,
we're out at nighttime, I'm definitely going to be out
filming war at night, so I wanted to have all
these different little cameras. So who can these areas that
we're going to mainly just for my own, my own
sort of comfort. I guess I could see if there's
something around me. I don't know, mm.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
Hmmmm yeah, most definitely. I mean that's just I don't
have to go far for me either. I mean I'm
up in Wisconsin, and you know, I've got so many
small cemeteries in the woods out here that are active
that I even to use uh uh, hunting cameras, yeah,

(41:45):
trail trail cams. Oh yeah, those are fantastic for catching anomalies.
And you know, even in cemeteries or even just out
in the woods or I've even used them inside.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
There are things now like some of the security cameras
I have for the Roku cameras, and you can give
them at Walmart for like twenty dollars.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I wish there's a way I could I technically
I can. They have to be plugged in through USB. Well,
I have these little battery boxes that are USB power
that are mobile, so I can take them anywhere and
it'll actually power them, but I have to have a
Wi Fi things. I'd have to have like a built
in extra phone or something with like a Wi Fi
thing to.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Like, well, you can do a hotspot.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Right, Yeah, And I could set them up and it
would record anywhere that I put them, and they're all
night vision and everything so and they're motion sensored and activated.
So I thought that would be a good cheap route
to bypass things by setting up these little security cameras.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Right remember the days when they were you know, running
feet of wire and a big spindle and going to
every room and you know, hooking at all these thick
wires up and everything. Now it's as big as the
palm of your hand. I have one wise that I
just put plug it in like you do with a

(43:09):
battery pack because it's USB and it lasts anywhere from
six to seven hours and it's motion detective, you know.
And yeah, I did that when I was in Tombstone.
I filmed myself sleeping for eight hours, you know. And

(43:31):
it was just a small camera and the back of
the battery pack and turned it on. And I didn't
have Wi Fi. I didn't need it because I had
an SD card and all I did was just record
it and then I just would put it into my
computer when I got home and then look to see

(43:53):
what was on it, you know what I mean. But
when you're doing active you know, live investigation or an
investigation like that kind of need that that Wi Fi,
you know, it kind of helps, you know what I mean,
connecting because that's what I used to use it that
connects to my phone.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I would get alert.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I've got cameras that I use for that'd have Wi Fi,
and I have storage that I use.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
But yeah, it's turn it on and I get an alert.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Something moves, it comes up, pops up on my phone
and there's activity and I'll open it up and it's
you know outside, it's the cat, you know, or it's
the raccoon or you know, or something like that.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, that's what I have set up out here in
the studio. There's cameras and every once in a while
it'll go off and it'll start. It'll notify my phone
and I start watching the video. But I don't see
anything in the video, so I don't know why it
went off.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
But that's weird.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
There was one time it actually did go off and
you see a shadow move across my desk, and then
the curtain on the window started to move. Oh that's
and then there's like a shirt thing next to that
I had hung up on the wall, and it was
kind of moving. But I've tried to chalk that up
to maybe it was the air conditioner running. But the
air conditioner had been running all summer and it never

(45:11):
did it, so why did it do it now? And
it never did it never did it after that either,
So it's just weird, like a one random event, right,
who knows I have.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Where I work.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
I work in a building that it's not very old,
and there's actually there's actually a guy that that lived
that worked across the street, actually owned that whole land
in between the streets and all that, and then well
he passed away and he was buried on this property
across from this cement place. And this is kind of

(45:49):
about in the country a little bit. And this developer
wanted that property to build this building that we're in now,
and but he had to get permission to move the
owner's grave next door or to the next plot over.

(46:11):
Somehow he must have paid a lot of money to
this guy's family because they allowed him to dig him
up and move him to the next lot, pot over,
next lot over, and so he could build this building. Now,
this building has two businesses in it, and it's not

(46:33):
that big of a building, but it's it's kind of
perched on a little bit of a hill.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
So when I.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Walked in there, and I was when I, you know,
recently got a job there and it's an electrical place
and I was doing it. I was actually my first day,
and I was staying there talking with one.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Of the guys there, and.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Immediately my hackles kind of went up and I could
sense there was this big guy is standing behind me,
but there there's nobody there. Well, I started describing this guy,
and the guy, the kid that I talked to, knows
who I am and what I do and.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
All this other stuff.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
And I described this guy and said, oh, you're talking
about so and so I said, yeah, evidently he's pissed
because his grave. He's not happy that his grave got
moved and she and he's like, I don't blame him,
because we hear stuff in this warehouse all the time,
and I'm like, hmm. The next day I go there

(47:32):
and I walk into the boss's office and it's like
six am, it's dark. It was before that the sun
was really starting to come up. And we have all
these cameras on the CCTV cameras, really good ones in
the back and throughout the warehouse. And the warehouse isn't
that big. And I'm standing there drinking my coffee looking

(47:54):
and that the lights in the warehouse are not on,
and but you could see the night vision. And I'm
standing there and I see the black figure go from
one side of one aisle to the next, right through
the other aisle. I was like, did I just see that?
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
I'm like, I did see that. Now.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I've also had where even during the day, I'll be
taking the pork truck in or moving something or whatever,
and there won't be anybody in the buildings that may
be upfront and the showroom, and I've seen people walk
down the aisles. I see their shoulders and the bottom
part of their head looking through the racks, and I

(48:40):
thought it was you know, another employee work that works there,
and that person was up front and there was nobody there.
Now I've seen that probably twice. And I've also we
hear footsteps all the time, and yeah, the cops get
called because it trips the night vision the alarm, and

(49:02):
so yeah, it's interesting. Every place that I've ever worked
has had some type of paranormal activity, and I've worked
at a lot of different places.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
I'm starting to think it was just me.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Maybe you're a magnet for it, I guess.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Yeah, but yeah, no, this this guy, he kind of
he kind of talks in my ear every once in
a while if we're doing if we're like trying to
put up like electrical wire or whatever, and it's not
doesn't look like gets secure all day out here, that
you need to.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Move that, you need to move that, you need to
move that.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
And then once I move it back farther, so it's
not going to fall on anybody.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
It'll stop.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
So yeah, he's he kind of watches over the place.
He kind of just walks around and freaks my boss
out and freaks a couple other people out. That this
is my daily life, folks, I live with this. You know,
this is nothing new to me.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
So yeah, at some point, I think you get to
just accept it for what it is and then you
just go about it and it's just normal routine. You
don't really think a whole lot of it because you
deal with it so often.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Yep, and I'm at that I'm at that point, you know,
this is a normal seat to me. This isn't something
you know. But when I did see that shadow on
the on the camera Clear's day, that was like, man,
I've been waiting a lot of time to see that again,
so that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I've had a few people reach out to me here
in the last couple of weeks, and I've noticed a
trend here when it comes to like it's there's been
more paranormal type of things. So with my show, I
do a lot of cryptid stuff for a lot of
alien stuff, but I've had a lot more paranormal people
reaching out here lately. There seems to be more prevalence

(50:55):
with shadows stuff. Yeah, like people seeing these shadow fears,
gears and being stalked by these big, tall shadow creatures.
And I don't know what's going on with that, but
it seems to be like a little influence I've been
having with people reaching out to me about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
You should get them on the show because they've probably
had some really good conversations.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I've had a couple and I said, I'm looking through
my emails and I've got a few other people that
have reached out. So I said, the planet is I'm
taking off the summer. So m h. I've been doing
this straight without a day off, where like I don't
do it every single day, but I want to have

(51:36):
like a little bit of a summer break. So I've
got enough banked up and record it to where i
can release stuff and I'll be able to take off
a month here and there. That way, I feel like
I'm a little bit rejuvenated. So come to time at
the end of the summer, I'll be good to go
and not be so drained because summer is usually my
busiest time for work and trying to do other things

(51:56):
because it's nice outside, so trying to do little trips
here with my kids and stuff. So it's like try
to utilize the time that I can, and it's hard
to do that if I'm always.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Sitting behind yeah, sitting behind Peter recording right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I hear you.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
I've had to take off.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
I think there was one year that I didn't do
a podcast for like six months just because I needed
that break. But then I got bored real quick.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
After that. I didn't want to sit on my hands anymore.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
And then I started and then it's like then I
put like two or three shows together at once, and
I'm like, Okay, it's kind of like overkilled.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
But m hm. So I know it'd come into the summer,
into the fall, I'm gonna be super busy because almost
every weekend after the basically from the end of September
in the November, almost every single weekend I'm traveling somewhere
for a different event that I'm going to be at
or it's like with a booth and everything. So I've

(52:57):
got a couple this summer and then like six or
seven in the fall, so it's gonna be crazy. And
I'm speaking somewhere here locally in August, so a lot
of things on the horizon. So I just, like I said,
I need to need to break every once in a while,
and we all do. Well, we have been going on
for about an hour. Is there anything else you would

(53:18):
like to discuss before we wrap this up? And then
before we do, I want you to let everyone know
where they can find your podcast at.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
Okay, no, I think that that's probably I mean, we
builled this hour, you know, pretty good, So I'll just
let people know where they can find me. You can
find me Instagram under j Paranormal end Compass, which is
an apostrophe Compass media that's on TikTok Instagram and.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Oh YouTube.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, so YouTube is pretty much where I do a
lot of my recording now. I kind of got away
from recording on Facebook because nobody really cared.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
And yeah, I just.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Because I do live video and I do a lot
of audio. Now with Paranormal Saloon will also be audio
and Paranormal memoirs. I've got some really good stories. Paranormal
Memoirs is basically where it's at right now because I
mean I've I've had a lot of popular a lot

(54:35):
of positive feedback from people who really like that show.
And you can also find that on wherever you get
your podcasts. You can look up n Apostrophe Compass dot
or n post Compass Media, so it's just en Compass
Media and you can find that anywhere you get your podcasts,
and you'll see the list of all the shows that

(54:57):
I've had that I have on there and then i'
uh in the past, so Cemetery Files is on there,
My first one is on there.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
You can also find.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Me on Roku Studio six. Uh, Paranormal Studio six Productions
is on Roku. That was my old platform that I
was using. I haven't checked it out because uh Neil.
I don't think Neil, the owner of ghost Planet Network
and UK has put up anything new from me yet

(55:30):
and I'm hoping that he does soon. So but other
than that, you can reach You can shot out to
me Spiritual Realms zero one zero one at gmail dot com,
send me a message or whatever. You can find me
on Facebook under j Hill.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
So Paranormal Salloon's on Instagram as well, So I'm quite busy.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah, if you send me, if you send me to
your links, I'll make sure to include them in the
show notes.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Sure I can do.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
That makes it easier for me and everybody else that's
interested in checking out what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Not a problem. Well, Jay, it has been a pleasure
speaking with you tonight.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
And I thank you for having me and this has
been a great conversation.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Thank you. You have a good night you too. If
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Speaker 6 (56:46):
I heard a story late last night about something alert
along a woodline.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Prints strange lights in the sky. They claim it's nothing,
but I know they lie. It sees your laugh to
laugh in my face.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
But something about this makes me say, what if it's real?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
What if they knew?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores,
wasting mind time? Hearing boy says, is it all in
their minds? They can call me crazy, but I just
want them through.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
What if it's true?

Speaker 6 (57:32):
What if it's really?

Speaker 4 (57:34):
What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
What if the worlds not what we knew?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Jim for tell, lend me a.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Story that starts where the lodge is. Get what if
it's real? If it's true?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
The answers are.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
Waiting, They're waiting for you.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
They see if the dog man walking, or maybe I'm
off man fights.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
I love the very giants hidden beneath the lies.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
They say, it's just stories, It's.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
All they believe.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
The fairy tale sport of things we can't perceive. That
won't keep us blindly, that won't break our wheel. But
I'm not buying it. I'm not swallowing another pill.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
Forest fed poison. The lies were made to what if.

Speaker 7 (58:25):
The truth could set us free?

Speaker 6 (58:27):
The alien sugals traveling through time, secret space, protograms racing
their minds.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
They call them crazy, But I just need some fruit.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
What if it's true?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
What if it's real?

Speaker 6 (58:43):
What if it's true? What if the worlds not?

Speaker 3 (58:47):
What we do?

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Tilly Oil tells fully.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Me a story that starts where the logic.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Is, what if it's real? What if it's it's true?

Speaker 6 (59:00):
The answers are waiting, They're weighed in for you. They lie,
we all been die. The signs are there if you
open your eyes. The aliens cricked, its demon's ghost.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
The devil them two? What if it's me? Or what
if it's real?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
What if it's raid?

Speaker 6 (59:23):
What if it's true? What if the world's not?

Speaker 3 (59:27):
What way to do?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Ten Foil tells fully me a story.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
That startswear the logic can what.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
If it's rain?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
What if that's true?

Speaker 6 (59:41):
The answers are waiting, They're weighing for you. It's all
in our heads, it's all in our binders. These voices
can be silenced.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
The truth must rise.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Ten for Tell, it's pulling me through.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
What if it's reading? What if it's

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
The f

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