Ep. 213: Tennessee Wildman

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was done.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I wasn't deal with them.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
that turned me.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Away the quickest.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
looked at us.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And one of the things I remember the most, where
the eyes were going red.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I see an orb of light. It is just circling
these steps.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to
tell them that he saw a UFO. They're basically like,
what are you talking about.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes as
soon as I made eye contact with this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
And don't like death. Welcome back to Tinfoil Tells. Tonight,
we were joined by my guest Randy. Randy, thanks for
coming on here and talking with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Thanks for having me. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Would you like to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, my name is Randy Hutchings. I am a field
investigator or primarily bigfoot sightings in the Middle Tennessee region
of Tennessee around the Cumberland Plateau region area. Been doing
that since the nineteen nineties started after having an encounter

(01:39):
of my own, I got in touch with the BFRO,
and the BFRO basically got me started doing the field investigating.
I was at the BFRO for a little while before
I switched over to another group called the GCBRO. And
I've just I've gone through like groups over the years,
so many, uh, but I've been doing it for a

(02:02):
while now, good, good, long while.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
When you had your first bigfoot encounter, we can talk
about that here in a second. But was bigfoot something
that you'd ever thought about beforehand or is that just
something that kind of got you into this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've always been interested in, uh, cryptids and stuff like that,
Lockness monster, things like that as a kid. Uh, I really,
I mean I had the I was open to the
possibility they existed, but it was more of a you know,
the the Pacific Northwest kind of thing. I didn't think
they lived in Tennessee, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So Tennessee is definitely an awesome place. I was just
down there a couple of weeks ago for an actual
in Townshend for the Bigfoot festival they had there. Yeah. Nice,
just the mountains and everything else. I took my friend
and never been down there with me, and I said,
if you just look at the area, I could totally
see where things could go, like the mountains and everything

(02:56):
that's beautiful down there, but just the woods and the
mountains and everything else like it. It's like I can
totally see something being out there for your first experience
or whatever you want to dive into.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That we can sure myself and my cousin. There's an
old abandoned rock quarry. It lays about three miles outside
of the town that we live in, which is back Menville.
And for years growing up, you know, as a kid,
I'd lay out of school every so often, I'd just

(03:27):
go up to the quarry and lay out, hang out.
So we've been going up these quarry, this quarry for
at least a decade prior to this happening. And this
day we went up there. It was late in May,
I believe, it was May twenty twenty third, I believe,

(03:48):
But this is in nineteen ninety seven. We it takes
about an hour to track down this one trail that
you have to know where it's at to get to
this quarry. It's backed up, it's it's been abandoned since
the nineteen seventies, this quarry has been UH. So we
take this mild trail to Uh to get to the

(04:09):
quarry and we get up there and we put our
feet in the water and Uh. It's got like a
little box canyon in it's one area, and there's a
lake there. And we've been told that this lake had
been created from where they had drilled down into a
This is like a you know, sixties and seventies where

(04:29):
they had tunneled and drilled and dynamited it down into
an under ground and the river had basically just come
up and and filled this part of the quarry in UH.
I found out later on from a local diver that
that's actually somewhat true that it did. It's it's rain
water mixed with a river that they hit.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
But we were at We got up there, put our
feet in the water, and it was just relaxing. And
we've been there for about five maybe ten minutes at most,
not very long at all. And something up the top
of these cliffs around this box canyon, we start about
sixty to eighty foot in height, depending on where you
are in the Box canyon starts vocalizing and it sounds

(05:17):
like the only way I can describe it to this
day is it sounded like if you took a hall
or monkey and you spliced it with an enraged bull.
That's kind of what it sounded like, and had this
like moo moo sort of sound. My cousin looks at
me when this thing starts going off, and I look

(05:41):
at him, and we kind of just have this dumb
look on our face, and we assume, both of us
just naturally assume that it's like some somebody, some redneck
or something up on top of this cliff that's messing
with us, and so we start making like garbledygook sounds
back at it, and it shuts up, and we kind

(06:03):
of look at each other and you know, smile, laugh,
you know, thinking that we basically like it entertain this
guy as much as it entertained us whoever this was
up there. And within just about thirty forty five seconds
of it going quiet, this boulder I mean I say boulder,

(06:24):
I mean it was as big as you know, as
big a ground as my torso three hundred pounds at least,
goes flying off this cliff and not rolling off the cliff,
I mean flying off the cliff like in an arch,
like a twenty five foot arts just and then splashes

(06:45):
into the water about sixty feet from where we are.
We both look at each other and my cousin has
this look of just sheer panic on his face. His
eyes are huge. Uh, and he goes, what could do that?
And and then he said something about you that would

(07:06):
have to have thumbs right to be able to throw
a boulder like that, and it started vocalizes again while
we're kind of standing there perplexed as to what just happened.
And it does the more more sound again, and we
look at each other and we're intimidated by this point

(07:28):
because I don't know how you would throw something that.
I'm a big dime six for four. I couldn't possibly
throw a rock half that size.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I could roll it off maybe, but I couldn't make
it arts like that, like twenty five foot straight out
like it did. Uh. Yeah, So I came home. Uh,
it made us leave. We got intimidated enough that we left. Uh.
Came home, talked all my relatives, their hunters, got a

(07:59):
lot of hunters my family, and tried to explain to
what had happened, and nobody could explain it, and ended
up online trying to find answers to it. And about
a month after it happened, I came on the BFRO
website and there was a vocalization that they had on

(08:19):
there at the time. It sounded similar. It wasn't like
really like what we heard, but just similar enough that
it made me contact them and tell them what it occurred.
And that's when they got me hold of a field
investigator that came and talked to me, and he was
bestally like, oh, yeah, everything you're talking about, you know,

(08:40):
with rock throwing and sounded like you know, classic tale
of one of them trying to intimidate you to leave
the area, which is exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think. Like for me, I don't know what to
make about what the sounds and everything else, because sometimes
I've heard weird things but come to find out they're
like normal animals something like that. Though what you're describing
isn't anything normal that I would think of, Like it
has a very primate each sounding call to it.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, yes, so I was. I've grown up in these hills, man,
I've heard all animals you know that you could think
of growing up and I had never heard anything like this.
I haven't heard anything like it since. I've heard vocalization
since then. They're like screams and whoops and hollers, but
nothing that ever sounded like that. That moa sound that
we heard that day.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I've never heard anything like that. I've heard I've heard
like a scream noise before, but I thought, honestly was
like a fox. You know how they make like fox
and make those noises, So that's what I've wrote it off.
But almost sound like a like a kid yelling, like
a higher pitch scream. But where I live, we have

(09:55):
a lot of coyotes and stuff too, so it could
have been anything like that. So I don't I don't
really talk cut up too much of anything. But I've
never been deep enough into the woods where I've ever
had anything that stood out to me. I'm not one
that goes outdoors that often anyways, like into the woods
looking for this type of stuff, So I've never had
an experience like that. But I honestly don't know how

(10:18):
it'd interpret things if I hear it, because it's something
that I want to experience. I know a lot of
people say, oh they want it. I'm more of a vid.
I want to see something. And I know a lot
of people don't, like they don't want to see things,
but I'm the type of I want to see something.
But yeah, for me, and I'm sure the listeners or
whatever like that, visual evidence is like a confirmation like

(10:41):
with sounds and stuff, it's whatever. But for me, I
have to I got to see it.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, I understand clearly. Like I said, that
got me into the whole world of field investigation for
all those groups that I ran with, and over the years,
you know, I I hadn't seen that. I'd only heard
that thing, you know, yelling and seeing the boulder being thrown,
and just assumed that that's what it had to be

(11:08):
because I didn't know what else it could be. But
over the years where I've gone out, I've you know,
got to see nests on people's property, footprints, and people's property,
saw an apple tree that was just covered in covered
in footprints underneath the apple tree where they'd been going
to this apple tree and taking apples off of it.

(11:30):
But but I hadn't had it assigning myself until twenty eleven.
And in twenty eleven, I was actually running a larp
if you know what to larp is in Middleton here
in Middle Tennessee, and we were used state camp grounds
as our event side, and so we had people that

(11:52):
come in from California, from Kansas, all over the country
would come to these events. We were having a twelve
day long event at the time, and this was the
fifth day of that event, and we were uh walking
down to where that's a river that goes right next
to the event side. And it's about one o'clock in
the morning. And as we're walking down there to the

(12:13):
to the river and we're passing the last cabin there
in this this uh campsite that we're at, UH, we
hear a snap crack off to the right of us,
and we turn thinking that it's gonna be like one
of our staff members or something like that, it's like
coming with us to go down here to this river
late at night, and instead it's this tall harry about

(12:39):
seven and a half foot tall. UH had auburn. The
color of it reminded me so much of like like
ruddy the ruddy auburn of like a bucking heat or
when when they're when they're you know in uh oh,
like you know their antlers are huge, and they're there's crazy. Uh.

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And this thing just walking to the side there and stops,
turns its top half to look at us, and it
looks at us for maybe maybe three seconds, it's not
a long and then turns and turns its whole body
and just walks into the woodline. And the thing about
it was the guy that was with me when this happened.

(13:22):
He's six foot five, I'm six foot four. We're both
big dudes. But this thing acted like learn how to
say it. There was absolutely no no intimidation from a
like on our side towards this thing at all. It
was just confidence. The way this thing walked.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
It had no care because it wasn't afraid. Yeah, yeah,
how big do you think it was?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, we went back later and there was a tree
that had passed in front of as it was walking
that We actually got a measuring tape out and measured
how tall it was, and we figured he was somewhere
around seven and a half feet tall. We also found
prints that next morning on the side and they were
seventeen and a half inches where he walked through the grass.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
There the face. I've heard so many different people talk
about how the faces are different looking. Would you describe
it more of a primate e like ape face or
is it more human looking?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I didn't get to That's one thing. I never got
to really focus on its face. It was more I
guess like when you hear people talk about when they
see them, and they all describe like a part of it,
with all this detail and the part of the and
I think that's because they're they're adrenalines kicking in and
they're hyper focusing. And for me, it was the things

(14:51):
back when it turned and started to walk away, Like
I can remember that, Like every detail of this thing's
back and how you could see the bat through the hair.
That was one thing. It was not like Chewbacca fur right.
You could see the back, you could see it's muscles
rippling as this thing walked off.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I've often wondered, and this is me being hypothetical, but
I feel like if they are more of a human obviously,
like with the hair and everything else, you would see
more of that humanoid sort of a face. But even
with the hair on their bodies and everything, the way
they walk and everything else, like they would have the

(15:31):
same sort of structure wise, for the most part, of
what a human would have, like their muscles and their
back and their legs and everything, more so than like
what you would a primate. But when people describe these things,
they're a lot more muscular than the average person would be.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, this this thing was muscular, but it was I
was surprised that it wasn't that good. That's a good
way to put it. Uh, it wasn't as thick as
like you see, like like Pattie is in the in
the Patterson Gamelin footage. Uh, it was leaner. But it
was almost as if you take a like the kind

(16:08):
of the muscle build of a of an NBA player,
and then you packed the muscle of a football player
on top of that that NBA player. That's kind of
what it look It looked like in a weird way.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I know what you're meaning. I think, uh again,
without physically seeing one, for me, it's all just hypothetical
in my brain, but I picture them as being something
like I don't want to see, like a missing link.

(16:40):
But for some reason, that's what I've always kind of
thought they would have been, is like a different offshoot
of like where we came, if we came from a
revolution or whatever like and this we came from apes.
This is like another one of us that just didn't
evolve in us, but they kept evolving into what they are.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, my I had I mean twenty seventeen of
a juvenile and what you're talking about that reminds me
of that because when I saw that juvenile, I didn't.
I was going through Mount Laurel at the time, like
pushing my way through this really thick Mount Lawrel, and
I pushed some off the side and there was a

(17:19):
tree root ball where this tree had fallen, and this
root ball was kind of facing me and it was
about it was probably about fifteen feet twenty feet away
from me the root ball was and this I saw
this black hole in the side of this root ball,
and I immediately thought it's a coyote den because they

(17:41):
loved coyoties, loved to din and stuff like that under
stuff like that. And I'm thinking, oh god, it's this
is in June when this happened, So I'm thinking it's
also a coyote season. You were our cup season where
they've got pups, and I'm about, you know, I'm probably
about to have kyogies come out as den and like
tear me up. And as I'm hyper focusing on this

(18:02):
this hole, it moved, And when it moved, I could
see that it was not a hole. It was just
this jet black what looked like dude, I swear it
looked like a black, jet black haired child, but the

(18:24):
hair was all over its body and it did. If
you've ever i don't know if you have kids, or
you've ever been around kids where they've been putting time out,
say like a couch, and a kid will like push
up against the couch like their back and sink into
it and put their arms over their third chest. This

(18:45):
is exactly what this thing was doing up against that root.
Bol was was pushing up against just like with its
arms up against its chest and its head tucked down
on the top its chest. I don't know why, to
this day, I still don't know while my brain was
seeing a whole other than it's just it was so

(19:05):
jet black that like it just my brain was just
immediately filling in the blanks and being like, Okay, well,
I guess that's a hole or what. But when I
saw that, it struck me so badly that it was
a child and not a monkey or an eight, and
they did, like to the degree to what you're talking about,

(19:27):
where I really do wonder if these things are real,
like hominids of some sort and a lot closer related
to us than we think they are.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
It would explain a lot about the intelligence of how
they've been able to avoid detection. And with me, well
got out through the tenfoil hat on here without being
in foil tales. But I feel like if something like
this exists, I believe that someone knows about it, and
maybe because of certain regulations and hallow it uproots stuff,

(19:55):
we just don't talk about it because it'd be like
an endangered species.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah. So yeah, but this is.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Where I struggle with because then you have these tribes
down in like that have never been around like civilization
like today, like modernized, and they have them protected. We're
not supposed to go in there and bother them this
and that. I forget what it's called, but it's over
I think it's over by India or whatever. They're the
country that's around one of these islands that people they

(20:23):
claim that they've never been influence from outside sources. When
people go there, the tribes are cannibals. Yeah, So I
feel like if we know about stuff like that, then
why would we not talk about these things unless that's
again part of the reason why they don't want to
talk about them, because they're not necessarily human, like the

(20:44):
natives are from these islands, but they're close enough to
humans that they would cause a lot of regulations and
laws and other things, and people would be afraid to
go outside at that point because they don't know if
there's some big humanoid out in their house in the woods.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I actually had a park ranger here in
Tennessee tell me he had an encounter when he was young,
when he was sixteen, so that he shared with me,
and he talked about that, like, how would you exactly
go out of your way as the government to come
out and say these things exist when you might be
having to admit that, like, yeah, these things are a

(21:22):
human cousin species that historically are sometimes known to take
children or take women, or you know, if you go
with some of some of the old Native American tales,
how do you explain that to the people that, oh,
and they're also living on your back forty and you
can't do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Exactly. There's been other humanoids that have lived like there
is any Neanderthals, and there was like a I can't
think of what the.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Other one was Dennis Ovins.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, and if we know those from the fossil records,
and even like with DNA analysis or whatever, who's to
say there wasn't something else that wasn't another hometed type
species that was also around here and the other ones
got killed off. Maybe they're just a smaller group of
these things still around here.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, Yeah, I think yeah, I think you're right. I
think that's close to what it could be.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Going on a lot of people that I've talked to
on this show, and there's some diehard or flesh and blood,
and there's other ones. I think there's something else about it.
Where do you line up with that?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think based off we found in certain areas of
our main research area over in Van Buren County. Let
to see, we found so much, so many footprints, uh,
so many you want to call them, you know, artifacts

(22:57):
of bigfoot artifacts, you know, like tree bends and stuff
like that, in the same area where we find the
footprints and stuff like that, that we're fairly fairly confident
that they're living in that area full time. They're not
moving around very often based off some of the stuff
the rangers have told us too, And I feel like

(23:21):
they're I feel I'm kind of in this place where
like I feel like they're flesh and blood, because I mean,
why else would you find a scat? Why else would
you find footprints all over the place. You know, ghosts
don't usually lead ealy footprints, Fantoms don't leave footprints, you know, generally.
But I wonder if these things are like, you know,
like we were saying that these things are somehow related

(23:44):
to us as a human subspecies, or not subspecies, but
a human cousin species. What would that mean they would
be capable of that We're not anymore. There's you know,
I'm sure you've done tons of episodes on you know,
the CIA developing you know, the what was that program

(24:06):
they were developing where the uh uh you actually traveled
and all that stuffy m k ul True, Yeah, it
was okay, crazy stuff like that. Like if we know
the government knows stuff like that exists and they actually
actively uh seems like at least study them, uh from

(24:27):
you know, all the all the the stories we're we're
here about it, what would bigfoot be capable of if
they live out there all the time in this feral state,
and but they're capable of saying things that like Yogi's
uh you know, are capable of, you know in the
Vedic traditions of of like you know, being able to

(24:50):
to uh supposedly become invisible. I don't know. I guess
I'm on the Blessing Blood with potential supernatural abilities spectrum.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
There's a lot of weird instances that happen when people
report Bigfoot. A lot of times I've heard people talk
about how they just vanish. You follow tracks and all
of a sudden the tracks are gone, and then people
will report seeing strange lights or orbs or whatever. And
then I've heard people talk about seeing UFOs and the

(25:22):
next thing they know, they hear something in the woods
and they've seen a bigfoot. So I don't know how
any of that connects. I've talked to people that actually
wrote books of how the UFO and the bigfoot connections are,
and again, everyone has great theories and stuff, but there's
really no proof because we don't even have proof to
bigfoot scientifically, as like mainstream science has never come out.

(25:45):
So they exist. They don't say that aliens exist. They
don't say ghosts, you know what I mean. So, yeah, yeah,
it's all opinions and speculation at this point. But there's
a lot of weird stuff that goes on with Bigfoot
that just doesn't seem to add up to always just
be a flesh and blood and I lean more towards
flesh and blood because that is how I've always been thinking.

(26:09):
But once I started doing this show and I've started
talking with other people, when you hear the experiences people's had,
and you've heard other things that have happened, like, it
really does make you think that there's something else to it.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's there's definitely a lot of of
of weird stuff going on when it comes to a
lot of this phenomenon am.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I talked to someone recently and they've had little pebbles
brought into their house. They've had strange activity on their property,
but they've had stuff stacked, like little stones stacked inside
their house. How would that happen? You know what I mean?

(26:52):
It almost sounds like supernatural to an extent, like this
thing somehow come into your house and stacked rocks in
the middle of.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Your Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
That's wild, Like there's no way for something to come in.
They didn't have like there was no trace of anything
in there, but they found these little pebbles in their floor.
And there's been other instances where I've talked to people
and they've had like different things and they claim. Even
the guy Les Stroud, the Survivor Man or whatever that

(27:23):
actually did some stuff for bigfor or whatever, I've heard
him talk before about hearing this thing talking to him
in his head. Of all people, I didn't expect Les
Stroud to come out and talk about mind speak, but
there he was talking about. So yeah, right, it's strange,
Like I don't know how to again, if they're a human,

(27:44):
like a form of a offshoot of a human, do
they have the ability to have telepathy? Because I know
that again you mentioned say, hey, that is a lot
of the things that they've tried to study is stuff
like that. So is that something because they knew this
ability existed because they had it experienced by something else.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Trying to tap into.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
And think about how how probably how likely our our
version of telepathy is probably so dumb down because of
you know, just generations and generations of us just not
using it. Ah, and whereas you have, you know these
people that you have these things where that would be
almost an adaptive trait. If you could have something like

(28:29):
that and then you're having to live out in the
woods all the time, h being able to communicate across
distance with the rest of your family would be just
something that I don't know, it's crazy. Yeah, it's while
the whole subject matter is crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Have you ever had any experiences that kind of led
you into that supernatural element for them? Like, have you
ever seen any type of orb or anything strange like that.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I've not seen an orb myself. I do have a
research partner that has seen an orbit in that area.
We have a lot of our big footing counter stuff
happening I have had. I used to make fun of
people when they talked about buying and speak. But I
was on two different occasions. This was about forty miles apart.

(29:16):
But on one occasion, I was out there with a
GoPro on my head and I was in our main
research area and I was sitting in this one spot
for about thirty minutes just just listening. We should go
out there and spend like hours and hours just out
there listening wooden knocking and stuff, and I'd bet there's
about thirty minutes at this point, and I had this weird,

(29:41):
I don't know how to explain it, but like this
feeling of turn it off, and it came over me
so abruptly of turn it off that I literally just
reached up and clicked my GoPro off. And after I did,

(30:05):
about what sounded like about twenty yards away, something large
started moving towards me. Took about three big steps. You
could hear of the steps that it took stops, and
I literally talked talked after the woods. I was like,
I can't my eyes aren't that great. You can come
closer if you want. Nothing happened, nothing responded back, and

(30:28):
then I heard three steps back, as if it was
taking three steps back the same way to it came.
I sat out there for about another twenty minutes or
so with my GoPro off, and I finally just reached
up and turned it back off. So I don't know
what what the point of if if indeed, you know,

(30:53):
one of these things was mine speaking to me and
telling me to turn it off so you could getting
closer to me, to look at me. I don't know,
but that's what it seems like happened.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Just recently, I was out with a couple of people
and I'm working on filming something for like this documentary
I'm trying to do locally, and one of the people
that I was with, I don't know, this is the
first time I've actually like went out and did anything
with this person. But as we were walking back from

(31:24):
the area that we were in, he said that he
heard something tell him eighty feet this direction, and I
was like, well, I didn't hear it. I don't know
what you're hearing, but I just kept walking it went
my own direction. I don't know what to think about
stuff like that, just because now if I heard it

(31:46):
in my head, then maybe I'd be a little bit
more interesting to go like if I actually heard it.
But when people say they get feelings and they hear
this thing and this, and I was like, man, I'm
trying to ain't skeptical. That's my biggest thing is I
want to believe. But again, I have to have some
sort of groundedness to everything. So I remained skeptical until otherwise.

(32:10):
So for me, it's like I didn't hear it. So,
and I don't know you very well. Are you just
bsing me right now? I don't you know what I mean?
I don't know. So we didn't run off into the
woods off the beaten path because it's a after midnight.
I'm not trying to go get lost in the woods.
But so I've got about an hour footage to go

(32:32):
through and I kind of skimmed through it and all
I've gotten was a lot of bugs. People are oh, orbs, No,
they're just bugs.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
No.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Basically, uh, what.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Was it used to call them? Call them bugs when
you caught them on on a camera.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Rods rods? Yeah, people call them rods and stuff. But
now there have been some instances where it is questionable.
But lately people have been calling them fairies because certain
grasshoppers jump and it looks like they have little legs
hanging down and then you see the wings, so it
almost has like a fairy shape. And I'm like, oh,

(33:11):
I've caught a ferry on my camera. I was like,
or it's like a flying bug with its legs hanging down.
So to the technology from today has made it very
hard to distinguish things because you have ai screwing too
with stuff, and then you have all these cameras picking
up things and these night vision things. So that's where

(33:33):
the skeptic site of me comes in, because if there's
so many cameras, everyone has a phone, all this other
stuff goes on, yet we still don't have any clear
pictures or evidence or video. The best video that I've
ever seen has been Patty and that was back yep,
sixty years ago at this rate almost so, why why
is it there's so many people having these experiences, so

(33:55):
many people coming forward and saying they've seen these things
and they've done But every time I get photos sent
to or whatever, it's usually so blurry blobsquatch is what
it looks like because I don't know what there's I
get red circle photos and I don't even know what
it's supposed to be other than it looks like a
tree stump.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Stuff like that I think does more damage than make
stuff more credible.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But you can yeah, yeah, this makes everyone looks more.
It makes everyone look gullible and stupid.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Right, And half the time I don't know if it's
people that really believe what they're seeing or they're just
doing it because they want to say they do, and
they're trying to make it everyone else look stupid. So
it's it's a weird thing.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
But I had a lady, actually, uh that I went
to out on a field investigation for that. She was
showing me a picture on her cell phone and it
was kind of a blob squatch and she was shoot.
But the interesting thing about it was she was like,
I know this, this picture is not going to prove anything,
but she's like, I swear you know. The lead up

(34:59):
to the me taking his picture was with me and
my friend saw him and she's talking about this one
sasquatch that is in this area a lot. Saw him
walking the ridge light over there. She points out where
the ridgelight is and she's like, and so I took
a camera out, and she's like, as soon as I
took the camera out, he sat down. So I took

(35:20):
a picture and she said, I know, it looks like
a stump, and that's exactly what it did look like
at a distance stump. She's like, but that's him. But
the interesting thing was we had went over about three
months prior down the road to the people that owned
the property where that ridgelight is. That she's swearing up
and down that she's seeing bigfoot walk around the ridge

(35:41):
log because they had a facial imprint on one of
their windows on their house where something had come in
pressed its face seven and a half foot up and
had a big thumb print. Thumb was three inches It
was just like your normal thumb print, but it was
three inches long and was eighteen inches from its from

(36:02):
this facial imprint where this thing had pushed in and
was looking at where they had just installed a new
pool table. And so I always thought that was interesting
to her. Blob squats kind of in a weird way actually,
like uh, pashed out in a strange fashion.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah. I've had people send me something before where I
actually can make something out, but it's is it paradolia?
Is it because you've told me that there's something there
that I'm seeing it and or is there something actually there?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah? Yeah, it's We've got a photo of a of
another juvenile in the area where we do a lot
of our research. We suspected the juvenile, but uh, there's
even times when I look at the picture and stuff
and I think it might just be paradolia. That's, you know,
not what I think I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
At Sometimes I wonder if our brains are just naturally
programmed to see faces and stuff anyways, so we basically
you interpret it like as a kid used to look
up in the clouds and make out shapes and this
looks like an elephant, this looks like something else, Like.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Oh, yeah, that one looks like Godzilla.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Right, So maybe that is part of the reason why
we still do that today, subconsciously not even thinking about it.
Like we literally just see these things and we're like, oh,
there's something there.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, possibly there's not actually something there, but our brain
is telling us there's something there. I don't know. We've
been going on for about forty minutes, and I was
going to ask something about you're involved with Tennessee wild
Man encryptid con. Yes, you have one coming up this summer.
Would you like to talk about it for a little

(37:43):
bit and how you've got that started and everything about it.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Sure? Uh. The wild Tennessee Wild Made of Crypto Con
is happening Saturday, August sixteenth at the Milliner Recreation Center
here in mcmonville, Tennessee. And we moved to make Menville
last year for the second one. This is our third
year this year is we moved back Menville the second
year just to be closer to home, and we found

(38:08):
a better, better venue for what we were actually wanting
to do in the first place. Ah, but we we've
we get a pretty good guests. First year we had
Ron moorehead from the Sierra Sounds, who's our guest of honor.
Last year, m K. Davis was our guest of honor.

(38:30):
This year, our guest of honor is our Scott Nelson,
kind of the side researcher on the Sierra Sounds if
you know what those are.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I've had Bron on the show before.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh nice. Yeah, And we've got a nine other guest
speakers I'm sorry, eight of the guest speakers on top
of our Scott Nelson this year, ranging from m K.
Davis to be there again, Chester Moore Junior, Helbit Holler,

(39:07):
who else? Oh man, my brain's going. There's quite a few.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah, I've seen who you've had on there. I think
I met Jesse and Joe from helbt Holler at the
Cryptodcom last year in Kentucky. Nice and they're awesome, Yeah
they are. And then there's been quite a few people
that I've met here in the last year or two
since I started doing these conventions and stuff. But I've
got ten different ones that I was doing this year,

(39:36):
so I'm sure i'll see some of them all over
here again. But that's the one thing that I feel
like a lot of shows don't have on is people
actually talking about these things. I know a lot of
the listeners out there enjoy stuff like this, so if
they're in the area. I've always tried to encourage people
to talk about their events where where they're going to
be at because maybe by that point someone will actually
hear it want to come out and meet you and
talk to you. It helps everybody out.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh awesome, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah. What uh out of all the things out there
of what got you wanted to do a convention?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well, me and one of my partners that uh started
it with me, we kind of saw that there was
a lot of people that were starting up conventions that
were just doing it. We thought for just you know, uh, well,
let's people about it just just doing it for money
and weren't doing it for like uh, I don't want

(40:28):
to try to sound noble, but I mean I wasn't
doing it for the experiencer aspect of it, and that
was one thing that well, we we decided that if
we ever wanted to take a shot out of doing
it on our own, we wanted to do experiencer based
and kind of like, uh, put the spotlight on the
experiencers themselves and not not like you know, TV personalities

(40:51):
and stuff like that. And so we my partner was like, well,
why don't we just go ahead and try to our own,
and so we just decided to give it a shot.
See what, see how pan out?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's been pretty successful for you then the first two Yeah,
yeah it is, I said. For some reason, And I
never knew this was a thing up until I started
this show. But I didn't know stuff like this was
like a thing like it. I was so out of
the loop, Like I come from doing band stuff, like

(41:29):
metal bands and stuff like that, so I never knew
that there was like these communities of scrypted interest in
like the UFOs. I knew there was like people that
were interested in it, but I didn't know they had
like festivals and all sorts.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Of contentions and stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, this was something all new to me. And I
went to a couple last year. I set up a
booth and then I had a lot of fun, thought good,
got to meet some people. It's always fun to meet
people that you've actually have listened to the show. They
know who I am, they want to come up. And
I've had people want to take a picture of me.
I'm like, why do you want a photo with me?

(42:05):
That's strange, but it's cool. So I have a lot
this year that I'm doing, but I enjoy trying to
make sure that people are aware of these things. Like
I said a little bit ago, like I didn't know
these existed. So I'm sure there's people out there that
doesn't know these things existed. So I'm always trying to
encourage people to come out, have a good time, talk

(42:28):
to people, might make new friends, running too people that
you didn't know you have something in common with.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, you'll meet people that have like this
last year, we had someone that they came in and
they're like, look, I traveled from Chattanooga to come up
here just because I wanted to talk to somebody about
a siding he had in northern Georgia, and it was
just it was one of the weirdest sightings I've ever

(42:54):
heard of. What he basically described is as like a
giant murder mollusk sort of thing like up in a
tree that was big enough to engulf a human jeezh
oh and like and he did the whole just This
guy was completely serious, and he told us what his

(43:14):
job was. He works for a major hospital in Chattanooga.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
He he was like, you know, I can't just let
you know, be out with this and the you know,
open about this because uh, you know, it could hurt
my career. But he's like, I wanted, I want to
know if you've ever heard of anybody else like this,
And we actually managed to find something similar to it
that was in a documentary that we sent to him
that made him feel a lot better about it.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
So do you say a mollusk? So basically like is
that what like would be inside of a clam?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah? Yeah, like a big yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Basically I've heard of the octopus man, uh and I've
heard of them in like Oklahoma they had like the
I forget what it was called, with some kind of
hot but I've never heard of a mullusk in a.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Tree or yeah, and it was it was thirty feet
up in a tree where he encountered this thing. He
was hunting. He was about twenty foot up in the
tree in a stand hunting at the time, and this
large semi transparent mullusk, you know, shaled looking mullusk thing
was slithering through the trees and he said, by the

(44:30):
way it was moving slowly down that tree, that he
was watching it all. He thought that it was trying
to like basically get to the ground so we could
get over to up his tree. And it freaked him
out so bad that he got out of a tree
and left the area.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Now I'm going to be terrified of the woods for
different reasons. I don't know. Like that's a very strange story,
and I'd love to hel to talk to that guy.
So the other when I went to Tennessee a couple
of weeks ago, I was in Kentucky. It was actually
at a BUCkies and I was wearing a shirt and

(45:08):
the guy it said something of cryptids on it, and
there was a random guy that come up to me.
He's like, oh, I saw one of those before, and
I was like, oh yeah, And it was like the Kentucky.
There was the wild Man, the Tennessee wild Man I
think was on it or the Kentucky was one of
the fair, which one it's a wild man on it?
But I said, oh yeah, he said, not that, but

(45:31):
he saw something in Ohio. So I asked him what
he saw, and he describes basically, it looked like a
pig with deer legs, but it didn't have any fur,
so it was like fleshy colored, but it didn't have
the head of a pig, but the body of a pig,

(45:53):
but with like long, skinny deer legs, and it ran
across the road. He's like, you ever heard any like that?
I was like, no, yeah, I've never heard of a
pig deer hybrid looking thing before.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
But right, I've heard of a dot deer, but that
doesn't even sound like a dot deer.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah I don't. I was like, I don't even know
what that would be. So I guess anyone out there listening,
if you've ever seen anything looks like a mix between
a pig and a deer, let me know the.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Big deer, Yeah, big deer of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Right, Well, Randy, I don't like cutting them short, but
is there anything else you'd like to talk about before
we wrap this one up?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Nothing I can think of.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Well, again, for anyone out there listening, make sure to
look into the festival you've got going on. You said
that's on August sixteenth.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
August sixteenth, Yes.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
And it's located where exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Milner Recreation Center in Backmanville, Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Do they need tickets for that or is it free?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Or how do they go about tickets? Are you get
You get tickets at the door. If you want the
tickets to the door are five bucks. It's fifty dollars.
If you want to hear all the speakers for the day,
you can also get the tickets on event Bronz. Just
look up Tennessee wild Man.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
It will show up awesome. Well, Randy, it's been a
pleasure talking with you. Glad to have you on.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I appreciate it. Man, thanks a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yep, you have a great night you too. If you'd
like to be a guest on tenfoil Tels, remember to
send an email to Tenfoil Tales podcast at gmail dot
com or go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to
the contact section. Make sure to follow me around on
all the social media's and just remember truth comes at
a cost. Are you willing to pay the price?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
I've heard a story be laid last night about something
alert along the wood line, French strange lights in the sky.
They claim it's nothing, but I know they it sees
your laugh to laugh in my face. But something about

(48:08):
this makes me say, what if it's real?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
What if they knew?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores,
wasting minds time, hearing boy it says, is it all
in their minds? They can call me crazy, but I
just want some throom.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
What if it's true? What if it's real?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
What if it's true?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
What if the worlds not what we knew?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Till all tells blend me a story that starts where
the lodge is gets.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
What if it's real?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting
for you. They see if the dog man walking, or
maybe I'm offman fly? I love the very giants hidden
beneath the lies. They say, it's just stories, It's all
they believe, the fairy tale sport of things we can't perceive,

(49:12):
that want to keep us blindly.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
They won't to break our wheel.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
But I'm not buying it.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I'm not swallowing another pill, force fed poison the lives
we're made to. What if The.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Truth could set us free.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
The alien signals traveling through time, secret space protograms are
racing their minds.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.
What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
What if it's real?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
What if it's true? What if the worlds not? What
we do?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Filmfoil tell bulieve me in a story that starts where
the logic iss.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
What if it's real? What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
The answers are waiting, but they're weighed.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
In for you.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
They if they lie, we all been dining.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
The signs are there if you open your eyes.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
The aliens cricked its demon's ghost, the getul them two?

Speaker 3 (50:17):
What if it's me? Or what if it's reader?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
What if it's raid?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
What if the world's not? What way to do?

Speaker 4 (50:29):
And Foil tells fully me a story that.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Starts where the lodges can What if it's rain?

Speaker 3 (50:38):
What if that's true?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
The answers are waiting, they're weighed in for you.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
It's all in our heads, it's all in our binders.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
These voices can be silenced. The truth must rise.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Tim Bull tell it's pulling me through? What if it's reading?
What if it's true? I

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