Ep. 214: The Energy Doktor

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there. I was done.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I wasn't deal with that.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
that turned me away the quickest.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
looked at us. And one of the things I remember
the most, where the eyes were going red.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I see an orb of light.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
It is just circling these steps like it is waiting
for me. And he begins to tell them that he
saw Ufo.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
They're basically like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As
soon as I made eye contact with this thing. It
don't like death. Welcome back to Tinfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon. Tonight,
we're going to be joined by my guest Randy. Randy,
thanks for coming out here talking with me.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you. Brandon.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Would you like to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself before we get started.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I practice energy medicine. Let's say. What that involves is
what's called Chinese energetic medicine. But I'm also Native American
and so I learned Native American medicine first, and then
Western medicine, and then are you vedic medicine and Chinese medicine.

(01:42):
So basically for about fifty or sixty years, that's what
I've been doing with myself. And of course sometimes we
have to take two or three jobs to support our
studies and interest, and so I've had a pretty busy

(02:03):
time with it, I think, just like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
So now, what led you down this path to get
into this?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Nightmares? You know, when you're a kid and you're having
horrible nightmares and there's basically nobody that can relate to them.
And I became very curious about why I would experience

(02:38):
a world that other people couldn't and didn't, and so
it led me into a study of what's called arcane arts,
esoteric arts, all kinds of stuff, looking for some answer
to why I was going through all that and and

(03:01):
basically trying to learn to help myself. And then the
course of that, I learned that I could help other
people too.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So kind of why I do what I do is
to help people. I know it's a weird way of
saying it, but like I give people a place to
talk about some things that they're not normally able to
talk to the average person about. So I feel like
trying to help, if that makes any sort of sense.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, it Well, just like me when I
was young, I mean, nineteen fifty seven, who are you
going to talk about demons and entities and spirit attachments
and astral travel and just on and on and on.
Throw an et there while you're at it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
This like, even in today's world that we live in,
if you go to the average person to start talking
about stuff like that, they're still going to have that
stigma against people that say stuff about it, because you're
going to be labeled as probably like a crazy person,
because that seems to be what people relate all this
stuff to. For some reason, I think there's a little

(04:12):
bit more openness to certain aspects to it, but not
everyone is fully open to the concept.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's true, it's not generally what we call dinner conversation.
It tends to make people want to examine things that
they try to avoid, and I think rightly so that
you know, we call it the dark side, you know,

(04:44):
but when you really start looking at it, it's definitely
an area of study. There's something to talk about and
of course, the other side of it is it doesn't
followed the scientific model or method, and so you eliminate

(05:07):
the doctors and the logicians and people that are rational
because they don't consider any of this rational. And yet
you know, it's common to all humans and all human
experiences and cultures all across the planet. And of course,
in the fifties and sixties, you were labeled. You know,

(05:28):
I don't know, they'd call you all kinds of names,
because they did with me. Because you're not supposed to
be intuitive. You're not supposed to know the future, you're
not supposed to be able to know things that other
people don't. And boy that they health stigmatize you for
that and in some cases become pretty agraarigous about it.

(05:54):
So so anyway, I studied it anyway because, like I said,
very selfishly trying to help myself and found in the
process I could help other people, and that's what I do.
So it's been an interesting trip.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
What were some of the things that you experienced when
you were younger, before you got it understanding like what
you're doing now, Like, what were some of the things
that you had to go through?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, I was seeing things other people weren't. That's very simple.
And you know when you do that, of course, we
call them visions and drug trips and I don't know
what all now, But back then there was nobody to
talk to. I can guarantee you, except that I grew

(06:48):
up in a Native American community and among my cousins
and uncles and stuff, what I was seeing and doing
and wasn't outrageous or out and so in Native American culture,
things that I wanted to talk about were things that

(07:08):
could be talked about. But the white culture I grew
up in, they didn't want anything to do with it,
and still don't to them for the most part. And
so that's all changing. Now people are really enamored. Uh,
they don't call it the occult anymore. They you know,
the old language is esoteric as opposed to exoteric language.

(07:32):
But I was able to start learning things, and Uh,
that gets into an idea I had about tonight's conversation
is you know, how you learn things in Native American
cultures a lot different, uh, compared to how you learn
things in traditional schools and studies. So that that's how

(07:57):
it transpired and open that I was encouraged that I
could talk around my family, but not so much around
my friends and people in school.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
So yeah, I feel like with the Native American like
upbringing and everything that is different from what most people
would be learning and going through too. I feel I
don't know how to say it without saying white people,

(08:33):
but like the general way of like a white person's
upbringing or we go to school this, and that we're
not as spiritual involvement as in what the earth is
like some of the Native Americans have been.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes, we were, let's see if I can get this
right to talk to plants and talk to animals wasn't
considered crazy, okay, And of course now we have, you know,
dog whispers and all this kind of stuff, but you know,

(09:10):
it's pretty fascinating. I grew up like we're We would
go fishing and my dad would catch say a hundred fish,
and people either side of him or across the river
weren't catching any And uh, you know, the standard joke is, well,
native Americans go where the fish are Native American. And
I've explained this to people I've trained, some people did

(09:34):
some Special Forces training with me, that you know, you
go where the deer are, you go where the target
is or whatever you want to call it, okay, And
so that takes knowingness as opposed to rational thinking, and
so it's it's a different world. And and uh, it's

(09:57):
very much obvious if you get out in Arizona and
Mexico that the world operates differently out there and on
different reservations in Oklahoma and places. I kind of grew
up in both. But one of the interesting things to
me was that people I would hear people talking about

(10:20):
health issues or pain. I was like eleven years old,
and just intuitively, I go, let me help you with that.
And so I didn't have well, any kind of what
we call formal training. It's just something that I intuitively
knew that I had some knowledge or ability to deal with,

(10:40):
and so I started practicing. By the time I was
in high school. I'd have people come to me, teachers, students,
and I would energetically try to help them, psychically, mentally,
whatever language you want to use. And the more I

(11:03):
did that, the more I wanted to know about it.
So that became a path path forward and something to
learn and kind of devote yourself stuff to.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You have been doing this for how many years.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now, since nineteen fifty eight. I was eight years old.
Now that's seventy six right now, so quite a while.
Put it that away.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
What are some of the things that you've encountered and
you've had to help people with, Like, what's some of
the things that stick out the most that you've had
to help with.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh, it's people are basically and majority of people out
there in the world are not themselves. And if it's
kind of like having a house, and you know, if
you're the only person in the house, well it's your house.
And if there's other people there, well we call that
a shared space. And if there's antienty, spirit attachments, demons,

(12:21):
which is curses, spell that goes on forever, then we
have a shared house where we're not exactly in control
of ourselves. And that can vary all the way from
schizophrenia to manifests, illnesses or psychosis and a dozen other
things in modern language. So I've encountered all that everything

(12:48):
from I guess the best way to explain it is,
I get a whole lot of people that come to
me that Western medicine has failed if they can't answer
what's going on with them. And so addison a process

(13:09):
and we'll call it intuition. I call it interrogating the field,
the feel of consciousness. All information is available, just take
someone practicing it. I kind of introduced the concept on
Gaya when I did that Quantum Effect series where I

(13:31):
talked about some of this and the reason I talked
about it because I wanted to kind of get it
out into the general public that these are things to know,
and you know, you talk about like things I've seen Glee.
I've had thousands, tens of thousands of clients, so it's

(13:53):
hard to focus on any one of them. I will
focus on the training a little bit, since people don't
think of or can't imagine that this kind of knowledge
comes through a classroom. So to be able to talk

(14:15):
to people and spirits and all that kind of stuff,
Like in New Mexico with the Navajo and the Hopi
and Zuni, they have a vast galaxy of people, places, things, gods,
everything in the world that they talk to and that

(14:38):
they gain knowledge from. And so that direct interaction that
produces knowledge or training, it just doesn't occur to most
people as something that could be attained or achieved. And
I'll give you a couple examples of that. Is to

(15:02):
be a Native American or to be a medicine man.
It's real simple. You die first and come back. If
you don't come back, then well the problems resolved. You're
not going to be a medicine man except in the tribe.
So that was a prerequisite. I laughed at people that
say I'm a medicine man, just so you know, I've

(15:22):
died several times and I'm still here. I've come back,
so I kind of passed that test. But during the process,
you become more acquainted with zero reality, with the reality
of spirit world. I guess we'll call it the world

(15:44):
of thought and imagination and superstition and grand tales, we'll
call it. As an example that I was at Paul Hockey,
which is a small town north of Santa Fe, and

(16:05):
I'm driving along and occurs to me to pull into
this restaurant. Well, it was just now opening. It was
in one of the casinos there, and I go in
and they bring me water and I'm the only person
this giant restaurant because it hasn't opened yet. And White
Cloud was a being that came in the door and

(16:28):
came to my table and sat down with me. Now,
science or you know, the mystical community wants to call
that a plasma being. In other words, it's it's a
ghosty that has some substance to it. So so we
talked about an hour, hour and a half. I had

(16:50):
no knowledge of the time passing until he went away,
and then all of a sudden, the restaurant just immediately
filled up. So we were holding some time kind of
away from everybody. So that's an example. White Cloud died
in eighteen thirty something, by the way. And then in

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another instance, I used to go do construction all over
us in Texas, and I had rented a hotel, several
hotel rooms for my employees, and in Native American culture,
they kind of passed you around to different teachers. I
was laying there one night in this white Mountain, Apache

(17:36):
medicine man showed up in my room. Remember their plasmid beings,
You can see them somewhere. I even have a picture
I drew of him because he had two snakes in
his hand, and he like fanged his cheeks and his arms,
and it's dark, but I made that drawing and the
next morning I could see that drawing, see this medicine

(17:57):
pouch and kind of different things about out him that
I had drawn in and he scared the heck out
of me. So I'd tell him, you have to stand
at the foot of the bed, you know, to talk
to me. And you know, over the course of several
evenings we have conversations where knowledge is shared. And then

(18:19):
the funny part from Native American humor standpoint is I
was late getting back to the job and the hotel,
and one of my employees had decided that had come
in and came to my room and slept in my bed.
And when I came in at midnight one o'clock, I go,

(18:41):
what's going on because everybody was awake, and they said, well,
so and so got up in the middle of the
night and took off out the door. And I said, oh,
he probably had a visitor. To this day, I've never
found that man. I owed him a final check and everything.
He literally packed stuff and drove off in the middle

(19:01):
of the night. Because a lot of those experiences are
very scary to people that are not used to them.
I go to Florida and I had a friend there
and his dad or his mother was the last nanocoke
Indian medicine woman and her husband would come in while

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I was sleeping and talk to me his stand at
the foot of the bed. But what was interesting. My
friend come in the next morning, goes, did you have
any visitors last night? They thought that was funny. That's
Indian humor, by the way, So so me, people don't
think about that. I could learn from the spirit world
that I could learn from a field of knowledge that

(19:46):
requires you to be open to it and pretty much
non judgmental. Scares a howl out of most people, though,
And the outcome of all that was that, you know,
Mexico has a lot of haunted houses and places spirits
that didn't go on. So several years I had a

(20:07):
pretty good business of clearing the ghosts out of houses.
People would call me from all over and I would
go in there and it only took a few minutes.
But I got paid very well. So it's generally not
an occupation you can put on your resume, by the way, right.
You know, again, people are not quite accepting of it.

(20:33):
So we learned from plants by learning to listen to them,
not talk to him. He learned to listen to animals.
You can learn to talk to him through mimicry, and
if you get really good at mimicking animals. The most
Native Americans that are raised on the reservation are very
good at it. You eventually into a period our level

(20:57):
of dialogue, and that's really where all the action occurs.
It's not just to have a dream, it's to be
able to dialogue in that dream. It's not to touch
another consciousness, but to be able to dialogue with it,

(21:18):
to find out what they know and share what you know.
If I wanted to relate it all in normal terms,
I'd say read Colin Wilson The Outsider, published in the
fifties I think was the original version. Read's Secret Life

(21:38):
of Plants. Peter Tompkins, and Marcel Vogel. I studied with
Marcell Vogel for about three years when that book came out,
and all of them are dealing with the fact that
there's levels of interaction and information that are basically not
taught in our school system. The Eagles skip by constanata consanata,

(22:03):
same thing. You're going to encounter a world that people
have encountered, but they kind of reluctant to talk about it.
So that's been the way I found.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Out people from what I've experienced with just from doing
the show. I feel like people want to talk about things,
they just don't feel like they can. And a lot
of people have these questions and experiences and everything else

(22:38):
they don't understand it. There's not very many people that
they can turn to and talk to about it or
even get answers, which I think the reason we all
listen to these types of shows is because someone's got
questions they want to hear answers. But the truth of
the matter is there's more questions than answers half the
time for a lot of people. So yeah, So if

(22:59):
someone we're curious about things, and I know you say
you try and help with people, what are some of
the things that they could possibly do to try and
figure things out on their own? Or is that something
that not everyone's able to do?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
People say what I do. I work on a person
to be one hundred percent themselves. That means empty of
all other inputs, programs, negative experiences, connections, enter these spirit attachments, demons, whatever, angels.
I don't care what all you want to throw in there, because,
like you say, it's pretty infinite. What all is in

(23:41):
what I call zero reality, the reality of that which
is non physical and the thing I tell people is
you lose yourself by the time you're about six or
seven years old because of programming, and generally you have
to wait until you're in your thirties or forties before

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you can kind of come back to yourself. Like you
have children, and after they're gone, you're gonna go. Maybe
I have a little time I could pay attention to myself. Now.
The primary thing I start people on is a very
simple exercise. You set yourself down on the floor before

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you go to bed. You're back to the wall, the
sacred area, the middle of the back and the back
of the head all touched the wall. It's very unnatural, cryers,
you said, very straight, and you close your eyes and
take a deep breath and go, I got up this
morning and I did this and went here, and I

(24:44):
ate breakfast and blah blah blah blah blah. And you'll
run out of breath. So you take another deep breath
and go. Now to ten o'clock and I did this
and this and this, and you keep going till you
can say, and now I'm setting in our room, and
I take a deep breath and go, I made it.

(25:05):
In other words, you made it through the day. So
what you're doing is acknowledging everything that went on without judgment.
We're just coming through it as fast as we can.
If we do that, we don't retain it into our
sleep periods and then need to process it through our
subconscious or unconscious. The other thing happens is after you

(25:27):
say I made it, we go thank you, because it's
hard to find people to pat us on the back anymore,
especially as we get older. And then so you say,
like you you would say thank you, Brandon, thank you,
And there's reasons for the reciprocal of that, and anyway

(25:49):
you're trying to get to that two or three minutes
at the end of that meditation. I teach all meditations
is just to get to the end of it because
once you've done this breathing exercise and meditation, now you
have the opportunity to either let knowledge come to you.
Are you are able to kind of like quiz the

(26:12):
universe a little bit, You can look for answers. So
that's the easiest way to start. It gets progressively worse
on those exercises, meaning there's more things to do. There's
hand positions and all kinds of stuff that called maudras,

(26:33):
So it just depends on how involved you want to get,
and you can learn that through yoga and meditation and
the internet. Now, the other thing I teach is that
people should start with sun salutations and you can find
them on the internet, and all that is is reconnect
you to your body and get you out of your head.

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And then the sitting exercises get you out of your
head so you can go to sleep at height and
actually rest. You'll end up being yourself more than if
you didn't do these things. So that's kind of like
how I start everybody.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I think for me, I would be kind of afraid
to try and do things on my own, just because
I'd be leary of doing something wrong. And I know
sometimes when you're doing things, people have a tendency to
let's just say they're trying to rid themselves of something.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Or yes, and.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
They might not know what they're doing, and they're actually
bringing more in, you know what I mean. So you're
opening up a doorway like a portal or some sort
of a connection to something, and you're trying to get
rid of certain things, but you're bringing in other things
and then it becomes something that's even worse than what
it was. From the get go. So in my mind
I'm maybe just paranoid lunatic. I know I wouldn't want

(28:01):
to try and do something and make things worse.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, things are so bad that being a paranoid lunatic
at eight years old was I had to try something.
The interesting thing I grew up in a very small
town in Oklahoma, and you imagine in the early sixties
somehow they're a period a book called Psychic Self Defense

(28:25):
by Dion Unfortune, and that book was, Oh my gosh.
It acknowledged that there's stuff going on, there's things out there,
and the premise of the book is you need to
protect yourself, and I agreed. And so over the years,

(28:48):
I've studied and talked kunneling yoga for about forty some years,
studied martial arts and esoteric martial arts, and all of
them eventually end up with some form of need to
protect your own consciousness and your own energy feel And

(29:10):
like I say, you have to work at it, to
find the knowledge and find people to teach it, because
it requires a certain level of mentorship, not just teaching.
And so like when I work on people, I reset
them to get rid of all these connections and as

(29:31):
an example, like, even a physical scar is just a memory,
it's a memory set, and it's one you energize. And well,
how about emotional scars or mental scars or psychic scars.
And if you talk about psychic scars, well, let's talk
about PTSD. That's a psychic scar. And if you drop

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out the energy that's maintaining or energizing that memory, and
it no longer exists. We have that natural capacity to
do that. It's just that we don't learn it as
a technique and we don't apply it on a daily
or weekly business. It's like, hey, you know we're going

(30:16):
to do some Saturday. No, I'm clearing myself out. I'm
building up my energy field to kind of protect myself
and my space or my house or my family. And
those are legitimate things that to me should be taught
or should be learned, should be pursued as a skill set.

(30:38):
And I teach all that, but I don't teach it
kind of like online. I mean, I used to have
a couple hundred people show up and I would teach
some of this and it was interesting because it was
popular for a while, and then people kind of lose
interest in it again. Until something weird happens. Yeah, tell

(31:02):
the helliiam show up again.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
So some of these things that people have talked about
with me, I don't know. I don't know how to
determine exactly what some of these things are. Something people
say they have like these in their dreams. There are
beings or entities that come into their dreams, and sometimes

(31:33):
they have these things that happen in real life and
they claim that they're like an interdimensional type of a thing.
Have you ever dealt with anyone that's had issues with
like some of these And a lot of people think
they're demonic, which again that's just throwing more of a
religious vibe to this whole thing. But have you ever
had anyone that's had any sort of issues with like

(31:55):
some of these negative type of beings attachments.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yes, Uh, it's a I have this protocol. I want
to work on people. It's about a thousand questions. But
the initial part is to get rid of all this,
to get rid of any interactions or connections to that
which is non physical. And so even like a white

(32:22):
eagle and the other people, they're non physical beings, but
it doesn't mean they're don't have consciousness and it doesn't
mean they're not interactive. So like in dream states, the
majority of humans go to what we call lower fourth astral.
In other words, you can start mapping where these things are.

(32:42):
It's it became evident to me in junior high. Somebody
was spaced out, we call it, and I go, what
are you doing? You know, I kept poking them and
finally go, oh, I was somewhere else, and I go,
I know that you were daydream You were somewhere else,
and I want to know where that was, because maybe

(33:05):
I want to go look there too. And of course
that gets into the work of Tesla and Einstein and
a whole bunch of people that highly creative that went
and gathered information and brought it back in more or
less a dream state. So yes, I've worked on people.

(33:26):
A classic one. There was a newspaper called Native American Times,
and the lady up there, you know, most people are
skeptics of this stuff, and she had a man working
for me, working for her. I'm sorry, and he wasn't
quite right in the head. I guess that'd be a

(33:47):
proper diagnosis, and excuse me. And she asked me if
I could do anything, so asking permission and so I
tend to work with my eyes closed because I'm dealing
with the zero reality, the reality of dream states and stuff.

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And when I opened my eyes, I don't know who
was sitting in front of me, but it wasn't the
person that started when I closed my eyes, and it
totally shocked her and two or three other people that
were sitting in the room. He physically looked different. And
so we don't recognize the extent to which we can

(34:34):
be modified or transformed by our thoughts. But do you
think about somebody makes an angry face, They've transformed their countenance.
But what if somebody or something else did that? And
so I come across it all the time. It's people

(34:57):
that have been abused physical, mental, emotion, spiritual. All of
them tend to have additional consciousnesses that they are involved with.
And unfortunately, in what they call a New age, people
are channels. They don't have a freaking clue who are
what they're channeling. If you listen to it, or applied

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symbolic logic to the language that comes out of all
these people, it just makes no sense for the most part.
And of course, if it did, we call it revelation
and call your prophet, and dozen other things. So people
do have these things, and you know i'd have to

(35:42):
get in specific cases, but it's phenomenal what goes on.
I'll give you another example that brought a girl to me.
She was intent on killing herself, and when I started
working on her, is like, there's nobody home. The person

(36:06):
in front of me, the excuse me, the activating consciousness
or operating consciouness kind of like CPU was not we
would say necessarily human or if they were not in

(36:26):
any kind of benign form. And I was able to,
just like de ghosts in the house, de ghosts a
person kick it out. I learned how to do that.
I have enough energy to do that, to override. And
so the outcome of that is through the two hours

(36:47):
while we were working, she kept insisting that she was
going to kill herself before she turned sixteen, and that
was only five or six months away. And that woman
is married now, she has a couple of children, and
she has no knowledge of that two or three years
of being a drug addict and prostitute and all these

(37:10):
other things. Now, that kind of behavior tends to attract
demons and entities and negative experiences and negative energies. How's
that negative things? And most people when they go to
sleep at night, they touch upon that world. But if
you have compromised your energy field or your consciousness through drugs, alcohol,

(37:35):
high fevers, all kinds of things. So even the place
you live, you know, there are scary places to live.
I've lived in some of them. So anyway, that's an
idea that this person wasn't wanting to commit suicide, that

(37:55):
which was in her wanted to. And so this is
where I've gotten in trouble as psychiatrists that all schizophrenia
involves another consciousness other than a human consciousness.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I've always wondered if people that have been diagnosed with schizophrenia,
and I've talked with people before that they say they
hear these things talking to them in their heads. Well people, yeah,
and people call themselves targeted individuals. They hear a lot
of voices, they hear negative things being said to them

(38:31):
all the time. This and that, I was like, sometimes
I do wonder if it's not like some sort of
a mental illness like schizophrenia. But then I've wondered if
it's not something else. In general, it really is there
and we dope these people up with whatever medications we can,
and it's not really fixing the issue because maybe the

(38:51):
things that they're actually hearing are some of these other entities.
These are their consciousness that are inside that they're hearing
and communicating with. Maybe some people are just more in
tuned to that than others.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yes, and that, how do you? People say, how do
you do this? Well? Be a sensitive?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
And then let's say you're extremely sensitive. We'd call you
into it. We'd also probably call you psychotic.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
You know, like I've been called a psycho a few times.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, people don't want to know that you hear voices.
Ask any child under six years old do you have
any imaginary friends? Every one of them will say yes, okay,
And then and then we get into a very interesting thing.
It's like, you only know yourself as the voice in
your head? Okay, now where is that voice? Where are

(39:49):
the thoughts originating that promote that voice that appears in
your head? And then what if there's two? What if
there's more than two? And so our society, a lot
of around the world demonize these people that hear voices.
We all hear voices, we all hear our own voice,

(40:12):
and a lot of times, here are other ones we
just don't practice to the process of trying to determine
whether they're benign or not. And so, in my language,
if you can't calibrate the consciousness of that which you're
dealing with, you don't need to deal with it. And
doctor David Hawkins wrote a book called Power Versus Force

(40:37):
and two hundred on a one two thousand scale that
he has in that book represents a dividing line between
that which is negative and that which is positive in
the human experience and guilt, anger, shame, negative emotions, negative thoughts,
negative connections, negative interactions, negative practices. All of those derail

(41:04):
you being yourself in this world. And you know, people
say what I teach, I teach that if you're born
in this world, I'm all for it. I think you
should be one hundred percent yourself. I just think you
should have a big energy field and all the energy
you need to accomplish whatever it is in your life
you want to accomplish. So that's my what do they

(41:26):
call it mission statement? I love that word. So, so
that's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Do you think you've mentioned them earlier? Mentioned like angelic stuff.
I've had people say that they've heard demonic stuff. I've
heard people say they've heard good things, positive things that
think those are angels. And I've said this before and
this is not me just being like Leary or whatever.
But again, maybe I'm just paranoid.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I feel like if something's talking to me and it's
a negative thing, it's not going to tell me that
it's negative. So if something's in there, oh I'm the
archangel mind just whatever, and I'm hearing it in my
head and it's trying to tell me to do these
things and it's what's best for me and this and that.
How does someone know if something's good or bad?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, the easiest thing is if they're telling you to
do anything right, you know, knowledge can come to you
like oh I want to go to this restaurant or
I want to go down this street. But as soon
as somebody is what we call actively trying to program
you or or direct you in a course of action,

(42:50):
that's when you should take a deep breath and go,
you know, where's this coming from. It's a legitimate question,
and then what is it coming from? And then why
the hell am I hearing it? Other than in my
own voice, because there's a tonal quality to that which

(43:10):
is not your voice. Okay, And I mean I have
a client up in Colorado for twenty years. She's had
what's called electronic voices, and she's been a client for
about five years, and she calls me in. She's having

(43:32):
trouble because she's hearing, you know, everything in the world
coming through this thing, and they're all talking to her
by the way, and so I can get it shut
down for days and sometimes weeks at her time, and
you know, it gets into you know, you can go
at it from government secret programmings, you can come at

(43:56):
it from psychic disturbances, from where she's living, from people
around you. It's sort of infinite our interactions. But if
you have a big energy field, you're generally not bothered.
So that's the primary defense. And you can learn through

(44:18):
breeding exercises. Pradagyama yoga, Kundalini yoga is some of those
martial arts and super secret martial arts. You can learn
to literally have a protective field as opposed to just
having a field of consciousness. There's no limit on consciousness,

(44:38):
there's no event horizon. So as you go out in
the world like when you're asleep, there's no limit of
where you can go or what you can see or
who you can interact with. And of course science comes
along and calls it remote viewing, and before that they
called it lisid dreaming, and before that they called it

(45:01):
astral travel or astral projection before that. See, if you
do the science or the history of it and keep
going back, it's like basically you're going to end up
with a Doctor Strange movie. Right. So we would take
and practice things that increased our energy field and protected

(45:28):
our own consciousness. Now that's not the same thing as
blocking out things we don't want to hear. Okay, The
difference is we want to block out that which I
don't that which is anemical or negative my existence as

(45:49):
a human. It's kind of like, don't eat bad food,
don't eat poison, you know we tend to or by
the way, So you would require yourself to pursue a
course of study that basically requires you to go out

(46:09):
and look around and find out this stuff and or
find a mentor or a teacher, a sin say whatever
you want to call it. But I can guarantee you're
not going to find them in a college course you're
not going to find them in a high school. It's
it's at least I've never seen it or heard of it.

(46:33):
That's what I said about like when I was picking
up knowledge from these mentors, Native American mentors, that was
knowledge that is not conveyed through our normal sensus. And
that gets into an interesting thing because I've been wanting

(46:54):
to do a lecture on a human being and being human,
and there's a distinct difference because average human is only
human about twelve hours a day. When you're sleeping, you
are absent the body and therefore not a human being.
You're a being, but you're not a human being. And

(47:17):
this gets off into this whole conversation we've been having.
If I'm absent the body, then what the heck am I?
And then of course here we go, Now where am I?
I'm not in my body? We know that everybody that sleeps,
at some point, you know, comes back into their body
or comes out of a dream state. They may come

(47:39):
into this dream state, but for the most part they're
somewhere else. We're right back to when I was in
eighth grade. Where were you? I've actually tried to develop
a kind or developed a GPS system to figure out
where people are lower astral, higher astral, off different domains dimensions.

(48:03):
There's about four hundred of them that Siri Paul Twitchell
wrote about or identified in a book called The Tigers Thing.
I think I read that in like seventy one or something,
nineteen seventy one. So you see, there's like fifty years
of knowledge or certainly gathering up a bunch of information

(48:25):
enough to warp me. I guess to be different than
everybody else that deals with this, and by virtue of
having dealt with it with thousands of clients, is that
I'm able to help other people that are having troubles
that result from them interacting in a world that they
are unqualified or unknowing of, kind of like the rules

(48:47):
and outworks and how to protect themselves.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
So well, we've been going on for close to an hour.
I try and keep these up for about an hour.
So I was going to ask you if you had
anyone out there that was listening that wanted to reach
out to you, were is a good place for them
to go.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I'm a strange individual that way. My email is Energy
Doctor E N E R G Y d O K
T O r and at me dot com Energy doctor
with a k at me dot com. My phone number
is Eric code two O two nine oh four nine

(49:31):
five six zero, and I'm on Facebook and YouTube and
Messenger and all those other things, so pretty easy to
get a hold of. It just may take me a
little bit to get back to you, depending on how
many calls. I'm dealing with this stuff. I do work
on people, that's my primary occupation. I deal mostly in

(49:54):
the areas of like trying to be healthy physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, psychologically, etherically, asterly,
and causal. And what those nine or ten things do
is basically try to cover everything that could possibly go
on with a human being. And the work I do

(50:17):
is to try to straighten anything out and try to
eliminate whatever that a person is dealing with. So energydoctortme
dot com. That's my phone number. They're welcome to contact me.
And the reason for that I put it all out
there is I learned from everybody I talk to and

(50:40):
everybody I work on, and so I'm in a continuous
education mode. So I appreciate when people want to talk
about what's going on with them because I learned something
and I learned new techniques and develop new ability, and

(51:01):
I like that. It's a way to go through life.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
So well, if anyone out there listening is interested in
talking with Randy, make sure to check out the show
notes for that information. But Randy, it has been a
pleasure speaking with you tonight.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Well, it's been a pleasure speaking to you because these
are subject areas that you know, our society wants you
to go get a college education, and you know your
conversations and now mine are meant to give you an
education about yourself. And that's the way it works. So

(51:46):
I appreciate you, appreciate being able to have the conversations.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, I definitely appreciate you being here.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You have a good night, Okay, you too, Thank you
very much. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
If you'd like to be a guest on tenfoil Tels,
remember to send an email to ten Tells podcast at
gmail dot com or go to tenfoil Tells dot com
and go to the contact section. Make sure to follow
me around on all the social media's and just remember
truth comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay
the price?

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I've heard a story be laid last night about something
alert along a wood line huge foot prints, strange lights
in the sky. They claim it's nothing, but I know
they light it season or las to lap in my face.

(52:36):
But something about this makes me say, what if it's real?
What if they knew? What if the answers are coming
from you, spending story, wasting minds, time, hearing boys? Is
it all in their minds? They can call me crazy,

(52:58):
but I just want.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Them from What if it's true? What if it's really?
What if it's true?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
What if the worlds not what we knew?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Tim all tales blend me a story.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
That starts where the line is gets What if it's real?
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting
for you. They see if the dog man walking, or
maybe am offman flies. I love the very giants hidden
beneath the lies.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
They say it's just stories, It's.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
All they believe, the fairy tale sport of things we
can't perceive.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
They want to keep us blindly.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
They want to break our wheel.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
But I'm not buying it. I'm not swowing another pill
forest fed boison. The lies were made to What if.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
The truth could set us free?

Speaker 4 (53:57):
The alien sus trap in through time, secret space, programs
racing their minds. They call them crazy, but I just
need some fruit. What if it's true?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
What if it's real?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
What if it's true?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
What if the world's not what we do? Timfoil tells
fulieve me in a story that starts where the logic
is what if it's real?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
What if it's true?

Speaker 4 (54:30):
The answers are waiting, They're weighing for you. They lie,
We all can die. The signs are there if you
open your eyes. The aliens cricked its demon's ghost.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
The depl them two. What if it's me?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Or what if it's real?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
What if it's real?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
What if it's true? What if the world's not what
we do? And Foil tells fully me a story.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
That starts wearing the logic?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
What if it's read?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
What if it's true?

Speaker 4 (55:11):
The answers are waiting, They're waiting for you.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
It's all in our heads, it's always our binders. These
voices can be silence. The truth must rise.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Temple tell it's pulling me true?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
What if it's reading?

Speaker 1 (55:29):
What if it's true

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