Ep. 222: Was I Abducted?

Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales! On this episode I am joined by my guest Rachel, a listener of the show, and she reached out to discuss some of the experiences she's had throughout her life. From a possible bigfoot encounter in the Sierra mountains to seeing what she believes was an anlien at foot of her bed, Rachel dives into some of these events with me.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was done.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
I wasn't deal with them.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
that turned me.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,
it turned and looked at us.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
And one of the things I remember the most, where
the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
It is just circling these steps like it is waiting
for me.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.
They're basically like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,
I don't like death.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Tonight.
We're joined by my guest Rachel. Rachel, thanks for coming
here and talking to me.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, thanks, thanks for your time.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
Would you like to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Sure? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
I live in the mountains of Montana and I homeschool
my four children up here. Not not a Native Montanan
as most Native Montanaans are very proud of, but doing

(01:41):
my best to you know, make them a proud transplant,
because most most Montanan's hate you know, everyone else moving
in to the state here, so it.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
Has gotten a lot popular. I feel like in the
last couple of years. Yeah, I'm gonna blame that the
TV show Yellowstone.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, no, it's it's kind of like a running joke
with all the locals that you know, just give them,
give them one winter and we'll see who actually sticks.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Yeah, I can imagine the winters aren't as nice as
it looks like when you see it on everything else,
Like you see the lakes and the mountains and everything
looks beautiful. But I imagine winter time is probably a
little more hectic than that.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh yeah, yeah. Where I am, we get we'll get
like a week or two of say, like negative fifteen
to negative thirty five, And luckily I can you know,
stay inside and just tend to the kids during that
time because you know, it's quite quite frigid outside.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah. I don't enjoy cold weather that much. Even in
Indiana we get pretty cold, so I don't I hate winter,
But a lot of people complain about the heat too.
We get really bad humidities. I was like in half
it one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Like, it's just it is what it is exactly. Yeah,
I don't like the humidity. I'm buying without that, that's
for sure.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Say, yesterday the heat inex was one hundred and five
because of the humidity, I think it was only like
in the lower nineties. But today has been cloudy and rainy,
so it's only been in the upper seventies, so it's
a pretty big difference. It was actually kind of chilly earlier.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, that makes sense, does that? Usually, you know, the
the hot and the humidity bring in the the weather
after soon after usually.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeah, usually when it gets really humid out, oftentimes it'll
cause some rain. But we've been pretty dry honestly for
the last few weeks. So it's not that it's not needed.
We definitely needed the rain good. But no, Montana is
one of the states that I haven't been to that

(03:55):
I would have loved to go up there and at
least visit, just to check it off my bucket list
of one of the states that I've been to.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh, you definitely you should. It's it is a beautiful place.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
I said, I've been through I don't know if i've
been into the Dakotas. But I know I've been over
Colorado and Nebraska and stuff through there, but those upper
mid part of the country I haven't been into yet.
I definitely want to hit those up. But you're actually

(04:33):
a listener of the show, So I do have to
say I appreciate that because a lot of the people
that I interview, I don't even know if they even
listen to the show. So it's always nice to have
someone that's a listener. Rach Out, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well, Yeah, I love I love what you've been doing.
So finally got the nerve to reach out and share
some of my stories.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, I definitely appreciate it. So if you are ready
to get started, we can. I'll turn it over to
you and we can get into.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Sounds good.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I've written down everything I could remember, and I think
I'll start with the the physical experiences and just leave
like the interesting dreams towards the end, because I know
some people don't put a lot of weight into dreams.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
Yeah, that's fine. How do you want to go about it?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
So the first one was what I call my near
death experience. It happened when I was in high school.
I was at a school dance and still had a
curfew and went to a friend's house after for the

(05:49):
last of you know, the hour or so that I
still had before having to get home. Like most kids,
I overstayed, you know, my time, and I needed to
to finally head out, and I was super tired, and
to keep myself awake, I while driving, because they were

(06:10):
about twenty minutes from my house.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I kept following the path that I.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Needed to drive in my head to try and tell myself,
you know, okay, we're getting closer. You know, once we
get up to this light, we're going to take a left,
you know, those types of things. I thought that that
would help me, help keep me going, but instead it
kind of put me into trans and I eventually passed out.

(06:39):
Unfortunately while I was driving, and the next thing I
remember was my elbow slamming into the door because my
car had gone to the other side of the road
and I was.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Going down into a ditch.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
So luckily, you know, it wasn't a huge accident. I
had to realize, you know, where I was middle of
the night, so I'd called my parents all that, all
that good stuff, but through the shock of you know, everything,

(07:22):
I was you know, sitting on the side of the
road waiting for my parents, waiting for the tow truck.
I was thinking about, like, what the heck just happened?
What was the last thing I remember? Because I was
quite a ways down the road from the last part
I remember, and that after afterwards I mapped it out

(07:42):
on Google Maps. It was exactly a mile down the
road my last recollection of you know what I was passing.
And it was also beyond a huge right hand sweeping turn,
so I happened to navigate the oh slightly to the left, slightly,

(08:03):
you know, and then a big sweeping turned to the
right and then down a hill before crossing lanes and
ending up in the ditch. But what I also remembered
after all this, you know, trying to figure out what
I'm doing with my life, that I had what seemed

(08:25):
to be a dream at first, a laying on my back,
or I was on my back and I was looking
up at it had to have been around five humanoid
figures looking down at me with this bright white light

(08:47):
behind them, so they were silhouetted. I couldn't tell anything
about them, but I could hear that they were talking.
I couldn't hear what they were saying or what language
they were speaking in, but I could tell that things
are being said. So realizing that I had that memory,

(09:12):
I thought, oh my god, you know what you know,
was that a near death experience that I had just had?
And also since listening to other podcasts, I wonder because
I don't remember like hair, you know, outlines of hairds,

(09:35):
hairstyles or whatever, some people have made me think if
it was in maybe an alien experience.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Now you said they were more like a silhouette type
of a shape. You couldn't could you get it like
an idea of how tall they were?

Speaker 4 (09:52):
No? I felt no, I couldn't because I was laying down.
I felt that they were all standing around, you know,
the or a portion of my body looking down at me.
It didn't seem like they were overly tall to be
looming down at me.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Now, just as far as the shapes and stuff goes,
more or less, just like humanoid shape, you couldn't really
make out any details or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
No, Yeah, it was mainly just because of that bright
white light behind them.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
That it does sound very similar to what people have
talked about with alien experiences. But I've also heard people
in near death experiences report the same thing. So it's
one of those things. I don't know. It could be.
It could be anything, could be nothing, like who knows

(10:47):
how long ago did you say?

Speaker 4 (10:48):
This was, oh, the early two thousands.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Okay, and that was the first time you had the
experience of anything like that that you remember what was
one of the next things that you remember.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
For that experience or just the next strange thing, well.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Like after the experience, like when you saw the things,
where do you remember waking up from that or what
was after you saw them?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, so that then it was my elbow slamming into
the door because my car was going in a ditch.
So yeah, so I initially thought, you know, they must
have been like my ancestors, you know, kind of helping
me through that process that could have been deadly.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I haven't experienced anything like that that I'm
aware of, so it's not really anything I can relate to.
The only time that I've ever been involved in an excent,
I wasn't the driver, and I don't remember anything like that.
It was definitely something that could have killed us, but
luckily didn't. Good Night. All I remember is telling my

(12:08):
buddy that there was a stop sign ahead. The next
thing I know, we're going through a fence in a tree.
I don't know if we should just went through the
stop signer whatever, but it ended up being a lot
worse than not stopping good times, I guess.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, the interesting things we do when we're younger.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
You said you had multiple of these experiences, if you
want to keep on going into them.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
So after high school, I immediately started working in Yosemite
National Park northern California, so I have a few interesting
experiences from there. I packed mules with supplies to the
high Sierra camps in the back country, so that that

(13:03):
that experience in itself was absolutely amazing. But part of
it was taking cubed like compressed alfalfa cubes for the
mules and the horses in bags up to Merced Lake
so we'd have something to feed them. We'd store in

(13:24):
a feed room, so we'd you know, bring those fifty
pound bags I think they were. One day, the feed
room as a door, you know, and it's locked where
my backer friend and I were unloading the bags into
the room, and I'm like, do you like, I don't

(13:44):
know how to say this, but it feels like I
can sense like a presence in that corner over there,
and this room is like maybe twelve by twelve, so
it's not very big excuse me, And so it just
turned out to be an interesting conversation with her as

(14:05):
we're in loading bags, because.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
You know this is this is a room that's locked.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
You have to generally, i'd imagine, need to have a
thumb to be able to open this door.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
To access it.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
But at the time, being in the park, I just thought, well,
maybe a bear somehow got in, and I'm just feeling
like a presence that it left over, kind of like
a like a residue. But the fact that I could
sense that it was something tall standing on two legs.

(14:45):
I could sense that it was brown, like a dark
brown and hairy, and that's why, you know, it was
logically thinking in my head it must be a bear somehow,
you know, because we're not there every day, the camp helpers,
you know, we're there every day, so maybe they just
had told us that a bear had gotten in or something.

(15:06):
But thinking about, you know, thinking about it now after
the fact, I wonder if it was something to do
with Bigfoot.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Right, that is when you mentioned the Sierras, that's the
first thing I thought of, was, like Aaron Bigfoot Country. Yeah,
that's where Ron Moorehead Sierra Sounds were recorded up in there.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, that is so awesome when I hear his stories
or anyone else. That's like up up Highway went Away
and Strawberry, you know, that's like my back that was
my backyard for growing up.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Other areas that I would love to go to. I've
been to California in the sense that I was at
an airport, so I've never actually got to go around California,
but I wasn't Oregon in Washington right up around the
state line, so I have been to Fort Hood in
that whole area, and it's definitely I understand why they
call that like the Sasquatch Bigfoot area, just because it's

(16:03):
just so vast a forest and everything just it's beautiful.
It's crazy. It's just I don't know, I'd love to
be back up there, just one of those places that
it was just different from the cornfields that I'm used to.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, the granite, big trees, stars, Yeah, it's
all just so crisp, and.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
The air was different too. I don't know how to
describe it for anyone other than the fact that when
you go out there, I felt like I could breathe better.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
It definitely doesn't have that humidity either, so that's that's
refreshing too.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
I was up there in September of hot twenty fifteen, okay,
so it was still fairly warm, but it wasn't like
super hot, so it was nice and comfortable and there.
I don't know what it was. It's just there's something
about it just felt completely different than I've ever been around.

(17:02):
And I've been to Florida, I've been to all these
other places, but like, I don't know if it's because
of all the trees and everything else. It's like I
just felt like I could breathe better.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, I guess the trees. I would imagine the trees
contribute to that.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
All the trees in forest are making better oxygen. I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
So you an, I was going to say, with this
presence or whatever, you never actually saw anything there that
you just kind of felt like it was there, right.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Right, No, I didn't see anything.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
You know, there's like I know that or you know,
my personal opinion that Bigfoot can cloak now or change
dimensions you know, at a whim. So never really saw
like any of the hazy you know, wavy lines or
anything that people see with like the predator type cloaking. Nothing, really,

(18:04):
it was just that it was the feat. It was
the strangest feeling I've never had, you know, something like
that before, you know, feeling a presence and being able
to you know, since kind of what.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
It looked like.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Did anyone else ever mention anything about having something similar
happened to them?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
No, I don't think I told many other people.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Because I didn't even really bring it up.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
No, it was just kind of like, oh, that's strange,
you know, in the moment.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Right and at the time where you probably didn't even
really think no much or think about bigfoot anyways.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
So no, Yeah, during that time, it was more of
just a haha, funny, you know, they're probably out here,
but they're not going to be you know, right here
where I am, because that just wouldn't make sense.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Off topic, not off topic you mentioned and how you
think Bigfoot are interdimensional and the cloaking and everything, and
I know there's a lot of diehard people out there
that are straight up flesh and blood When you first
started believing in bigfoot that you just were you on
the flesh and blood camp like most people too. Yeah, definitely,
there's just so much there's so much weird stuff when

(19:20):
it comes to bigfoot that it's hard to if there's
something out there that's really out there. I don't think
they could be a flesh and blood creature, just because
there's so much more to the experiences. You hear a
lot of people talk about it. It's almost supernatural feeling
to me. Yeah, it's just where are the bodies that

(19:42):
where are the breeding populations at? Like we all have cameras,
we have so much technology these days, but yet we
still struggle having any sort of documentation of these creatures.
So why is that there's just something weird about it?
I can't explain it.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Definitely, When you know, I'd hear experiences of people seeing
it go behind a tree and just disappearing, you know,
the next logical thing was to think, well, it somehow
went up the tree, you know, and disappeared in that sense,
and they're not thinking to look up the tree, but
they're you know, being that they're such huge creatures, you know,
and not hearing them when they're move and they move

(20:23):
and you know, not seeing the tree, you know, sway
at all with you know a few hundred pounds or
you know, something huge and heavy in it. You know.
My my beliefs and my understanding of what they are
or what they can be at least has definitely evolved
with with all the firsthand experiences I've I've listened over

(20:46):
the years.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
About six years ago now, well a little over five years,
I guess is when I really started listening to podcast,
when I started to want to do my own podcast.
This was during Lockdown, and I was very much on
the fence of if Bigfoot's real or not. But I've

(21:11):
always liked the stories. I've always liked listening. So that's
how I came across podcast about Bigfoot, which was I
didn't realize existed, but it was something that I wanted
to talk about, and I've come across a couple of
different shows and I started hearing all these accounts and
since then I was like, well, maybe there is more
to it. And then now I lean more towards well,

(21:33):
I don't even think they're a flesh and blood creature,
Like it's progressed over time just from hearing everyone's experience
is about all the weird stuff that goes on when
it comes to Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Definitely, Yeah, it's incredible the firsthand accounts that you can
come across going down that Bigfoot rabbit hole in podcasts.
That's what paid me into dogbin and their existence. And
then you know, other things as well that we are taught,

(22:08):
you know, don't exist. They're just in fairy tales, their myths,
they're legends as well as things that I'd never even
you know, even heard of.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I've always wondered, and I've said this too, like clearly
the fairy tales and the stories and the old legends
and myths and everything were influenced by something. Even the
Native Americans, even the Europeans and all these ancient Egyptians,
they've all had stories of creatures that we've that have
evolved from different traditions, from different locations. But almost every

(22:42):
continent that I can think of, besides maybe Antarctica has
some sort of a hairy man's story. M there's been
were wolves for all through Europe, and there was wear
wolf's stories here, and like same thing with witch shit stuff,
and like what influenced all that they had to have
seen something to start these stories up. So I've always wondered, like,

(23:03):
maybe these are the things that influence those stories. They've
always they's how many And that was probably the only
time did you really experience something out there? Do you
have anything else to you when.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
You're I have I have one other experience in Usemite
and it was another thing that we just kind of
wrote off because it was, you know, something we couldn't understand,
and it had to do with what people call fairy
lights these days.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
So in the between the high Sierra camps, they'd have
parties for you know, specific parties, certain times times of
the summer would be at certain camps. So I just
happened to be, excuse me, at Mersa Lake during one
of the times that there was a party, I believe

(24:05):
one of the camps eight miles away. So after, you know,
after a long day of working, dinner, showered, decided heck, yeah,
I want to hike eight miles, you know, and another
eight miles back after a party in the middle of
the night. Sounds like a great idea, but you know,

(24:26):
that's what you do when you're in your early twenties.
So we you know, a few of us have headlamps.
I think we all have headlamps, because that's just what
you need in the high Serier camps.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
And we're just trudging along, like I said, eight miles
to get there.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
And there were a few people that we were supposed
to meet up with on the trail, you know, all
everyone who wants to go from all of the other
camps kind of meet up, and you know, trek that
direction and we see these light blue white lights, you know,

(25:03):
similar to headlamps, the light of a headlamp in front
of us, to the right, slightly to the right, across
across the way. It's pitch black. But you know, I've
never been this way, but the people that I've that
I was with knew where we were. So we're yelling,

(25:23):
you know, we're calling out to our friends, thinking that's
logically who who this is. You know, they're they must
have gotten lost or they're coming in from that direction
for whatever reason, and no one's calling back to us.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
We don't hear sounds of people.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
You know, they're far enough away that we're not going
to hear them, you know, walking in the granite rocks
or anything. But at least they'd hear our voices and
they'd call back out, but we never heard back from anyone.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
So we kept walking.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
We'd see the lights again and there was a few
of them, so we thought for sure was our friends
or other people, and we just never heard from them.
And after the party and then making our way back,
and that was kind of still on our mind. We're
like that location. We were on a pretty slick you know,

(26:14):
Granite mountain, you know, hill mountain.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
It wasn't just walking on flat land there, but.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Where we saw the lights was even more steep like
it was. It wasn't a location that you would see
any anyone hiking through, and definitely not at night. And
it's not usually a spot that you would see like
rock climbers. It's just a slick rock face. So that

(26:48):
was that was really something to ponder after realizing that
it wasn't even a location that anyone generally would.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Be I'm trying to think, like, I don't know if
anyone would be out there, especially if they're climbing or
anything like that, and they weren't making any calls back.
It seems strange for people. This is me being kind

(27:19):
of a skeptic in general about a lot of things.
But I've often wondered how many times people are out
there and they hear these noises and some people are like, oh,
that's just someone out there screwing around with you. Who
really goes out there and does that though, Yeah, Like
you're just going out into the woods to hope someone
happens to come out there so you can screw around
with them. What happens if no one comes out there,

(27:40):
so you just spend your whole time out there waiting
for someone to come around. Like, I don't none of
that ever makes sense to me. So that's why I
kind of lean towards when people hear things like, well,
maybe it's not something that we recognize, so maybe it's misidentification.
But half the time I don't believe people are someone's
out there messing with people. I was like, no, that

(28:01):
doesn't make any sort of sense either. Yeah, I agree,
that's just the way I see it, because at least
around here, you start going out in the woods somewhere
and messing with people, you might end up getting shot. Right,
That's something you don't really do, is go out in
the woods or go out whatever and make a bunch
of noise and then you don't even know what people

(28:22):
are out there doing in the first place, so you
might catch a stray bullets and you never know.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah in the park, that's you know, another another thing
as far as guns and such. But yeah, anywhere else
in the world for sure.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
The forest, like for national parks and stuff. I get
you can't go out there but here out in the
woods and hunting season this and that, because I've heard
stories from local people that I have not just talked
to like for the show, but like people are talking
to in general, claims they hear things, things seem weird
to them or whatever. It's like our unwritten rule for

(28:59):
most times. Obviously you don't just pop shots off because
you don't know what it is. But you're out there
scaring someone, you don't know how someone's going to react, right,
So I guess that's one of the gambles for anyone
listening that wants to go out there and screw around
with people. You might regret that decision sometime, for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, you don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
It's kind of like fifty to fifty if you think
people are more scary than the things that you don't
know are actually out there.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
I want to hear a story sometime from a prankster
that was out there trying to prank people that actually
had a real encounter and now they refuse to try
and prank people because they had their own experience and
realized that what they were doing isn't actually funny. Right,
I'm sure there's someone out there that's.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Had that, I would imagine, So yeah, put the call
out there.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Well, I know someone at one point was dressed as
Bigfoot and they jumped out in front of a car
and the car actually hit them and killed them. So
that is something else to warn people don't be doing
that either. Yeah, that's just because you're in a costume
doesn't mean someone's not going to run you over. Again,

(30:15):
I don't know the proper term for it, other than
I guess survival of the fittest or survival of the
non dumbest. But nature's working its way out, I guess.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah, Well, what else have you had on I know
you said you had a list and there's things you
wanted to talk about, and you mentioned some dream stuff too,
So I don't know what else you have far as
like physical experiences besides the dream ones.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, So moving right, along.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
So after Yousebody, I started my own business and got
super busy right off the bat with that.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
So that was awesome, but.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
It involved staying in other people's homes while they were away,
caring for their place and their animals. So the next
two have to do with aliens. So waking up early morning,

(31:12):
you know, just before dawn. So this the sky is,
you know, getting brighter, lighter to be able to see
a little bit, but the sun hasn't prested the horizon yet.
I absolutely love the night sky, and I really enjoy
seeing the planet Venus because it's so bright, and that's

(31:38):
one of the things that I always look for in
the early morning hours of musemity as well catching the
mules in the crawd But anyways, so i'd always look
up into the sky for Venus, you know, before the
sun actually woke up. And I'm looking up walking out
to the barn and something catches my eye that I

(32:03):
don't usually see. It was like a cigar shaped like
silver craft.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
It was it was.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
It wasn't super close, but it was close enough to
see that it was cigar shaped. It was like gray.
It wasn't like a dark gray, but you know, a
gray silver and it wasn't It was slightly turned away
from me, but I could still tell the shape that
it was. And so I stood there just staring at it,

(32:40):
like you know, and kind of disbelief, like I'm not
seeing what I think I'm seeing, but you know, of course,
just staring at to see what would happen next. And
now this next part I can't I don't know if
I was just imagining what it looked like inside, you know,

(33:00):
the end that was closest to me, or if I
somehow knew but I could see the inside had like
like desk desk height. I don't know what I'm trying

(33:30):
to say, but you know, like a like a like
desk surrounding the whole inside space with lights different you know,
colored lights on it, and the shorter gray aliens kind

(33:51):
of you know in there in that area, maybe like
three of them. And you know, like I said, I
don't know if I was imagining, like, oh that's in
alien spaceship, this is probably what it looks like inside,
or if somehow I could sense or if somehow, you know,
I knew that's what it looked like. I think I

(34:11):
think this encounter, no I know, I imagine this encounter actually
comes after the next big one that I want to
tell you. Okay, should I just jump right into.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
That, Yeah, that's fine. I was going to ask you
a question of like how far away was it?

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I It's hard to say because I you know, if
I knew the height that airplanes usually traveled to where
you can barely see, you know, you can make out
that it's an airplane, I'd say slightly closer than that.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Okay, so it's up there a ways. It's not like
tree line. It's it's high in the air.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, it's it's high enough that I was, you know,
staring at it to see, you know, if it would change,
you know, as if it were an airplane, if it
was you know, continuing on in its path, if I
could finally see that it was an airplane. But no,
it just, you know, it was an obvious cigar shape.

(35:20):
And I know people talk about a tic tac craft,
and when I think about that, I think of, you know,
something fatter like mine. The one that I saw was
more skinny, like a cigar shape.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
I think the tic TACs are relatively small too, if
I'm not mistaken, because I think those videos it's like
they're not much bigger than the jets that are around there.
So I could be one hundred percent wrong with all
the tic TACs. I know the stuff that's been released
for tic TACs. I thought they were more of a
smaller type of sighting for a lot of the things

(35:55):
that they've at least publicly released, I don't know other
ones were out there. But the cigar stuff is actually
interesting because those were reported back in the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Yeah, they've been reported for a long time. Like they
called them cylinder shape, Well, a cylinder is like a cigar.
So yeah, there was flying machines that were reported in
the eighteen hundreds. I think there was a crash somewhere.
I think maybe they're really nineteen hundreds. Maybe I don't
know the exact place, but there are stories of a

(36:30):
crash of something that was like a cylinder shape, of
flying cylinder, So that to me sounds like the same
sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, So I I stood there watching it until I
could tell it kind of. I don't know, if it
continued to turn just slightly away from me, so it
was more of like a circle rather than an obvious
cigar shape, but I continued watching it until it was
slowly getting farther and farther away, and then I couldn't

(37:02):
see it anymore. That's that's the end of that encounter.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
And what happened after you think happened before this one.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
So hmm, what I think happened before? I think this
next encounter happened before it. I think thinking on it,
that's the logical timeline. So this, this next encounter was
like the main thing that got me jumping into Okay, this,
this isn't just entertainment here and there of oh yeah,

(37:35):
you know, this person believes in alien or that person
believes in bigfoot. Let's listen, because it's entertaining type thing.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Let's see. So it was.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
It was the the evening before my twenty fourth birthday,
so my last day of being twenty three. I was
asleep in my bed, my boyfriend at the time next
to me, so it was in his house that he
was renting, and I woke up for some reason. It's

(38:09):
it's dark, you know, middle of the night, but I
could see that there is a tall gray alien standing
at the foot of the bed, and that's definitely not
something that I dream about or anything that I've ever
seen before to my knowledge. So I immediately, you know,

(38:30):
I'm like frozen in fear and thinking because we you know,
we'd go to sleep listening to coast to coast and
we'd have you know, some people may say, well, that's
that's it right there, there's your reason. You're just dreaming,
you know, based on something that you heard that that night,

(38:51):
But no, it was it was definitely me waking up
for some reason and seeing a tall, gray alien just
standing there. And you know, my husband is one to say, yeah,
you know, come come save me, Come take me from here.
You know, this earth and the people in it are

(39:13):
not where I want to be. But I'm I'm more
of a believer of fairies and you know, a lover
of the stories of you know, don't eat the food
or drink the drink because you know, if you ever
do come back, you know, seven years or longer will
have passed and the world that you know won't be

(39:36):
the same.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
So all the.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
All these thoughts are going through my head while I'm
laying in bed looking, you know, looking at this tall
alien sitting at the foot of my bed, because I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Well, is it here?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
To take me.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Should I go with it? Because then what would I learn?
What would I see? But it would would it be like,
you know, a fairy experience that if I do come back,
you know when will I come back? And I didn't
want to, you know, not miss. I didn't want to
miss out on any part of this you know, young
adult life that I was living through at the time.

(40:16):
So all these you know, wild thoughts are racing through
my head while I'm looking at it, and I also
thought like this, this isn't real, you know, the usual
scared kid in the bedroom because of a shadow type thing,
Like I need to get up and I need to
go turn on the light. But then I couldn't turn
on the light of the bedroom because that would wake

(40:37):
up my boyfriend at the time and I'd have to
explain myself to him. So I wanted to turn on
the light of the bathroom, but I'd have to walk
past this creature, this bean, and if it was real,
I did not want to get that close to it.
So I just laid there, not knowing what to do,
and eventually passed out, like I didn't here. It wasn't

(41:02):
communicating to me in any way, It didn't move. I
am a believer that it can hear my thoughts, you know,
so it was probably just standing there thinking like this
lady's crazy. But yeah, that was the main thing that

(41:22):
kicked my button to gear of like, you know, it's
not just happening to other people, like it can happen
to anyone, and it just happened to me type thing.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
And your husband was asleep at the time, so he
didn't see.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Any of this, No, and I didn't. I didn't. Yeah,
I didn't try and wake them up or anything. I
was just kind of frozen in fear, not knowing what
to do.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
How long was it there for before, like it disappeared
or you woke up.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Or yeah, before I passed back out. Oh man, I'd
say minutes.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I'd say, I.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Don't know. It's one of those, you know, moments of
fear that you know, feel like forever, but wasn't as long.
But I'd say at least I'd say five to ten,
ten minutes, unless my mind was racing, you know, a
lot more, a lot faster than I I think, because

(42:22):
I was having, you know, all of these thoughts run
through my head of you know, should I go heck, no,
I don't want to go, Okay, this isn't real. You know.
All of those thoughts were running through my head, So
I'd say at least five minutes, if not more of me,
just like, this isn't real. This is like, you know,
not knowing if to you know, if I should give

(42:45):
in to you know, why else would an alien be
in my bedroom if not to take me somewhere.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
If I was to ever wake up and I knew
that I'm actually awake, awake, can I see something like
that in my room? I'm probably freaking out out and
it might get punched if I'm able to move, because
that's my apparently, my go to instinct is it's either
fight or flight. I'm always ready to fight.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
I guess, so that's good. Yeah, I didn't even try
to move because yeah, I know, I didn't even try
to move. I couldn't tell you if I was able to.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
I guess if there's aliens listening, don't come to my rooms.
You're gonna get punched in the face.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
M hmm.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Was that the last of your actual like experience as
far as like seeing things or having anything like that before.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
I've got two other I see, actually I have another
one in Yosemite. And these next two if if you
want to hear them, are just odd, strange happenings, not
really cryptid or anything. But you know, I listened to
a lot of the Missing four one one stuff, so
it just kind of goes hand in hand with odd.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
Absently.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, Yosemite.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
So like I I, like I said, I would pack
mules from the valley, and I think Merceaid Lake was
like twelve to fourteen miles from the valley. So it
was a long day and you're mainly by yourself. You're
packing with other packers, and you start out, you know,
with them, but you go at different paces and you

(44:33):
just try to get there. You got to stop for
whatever reason along along the way. But I uh, and
I was looking at the map earlier today and I
think about eight to ten miles in so I was
on my way to Mercaid Lake. There's a slick rock area,

(44:56):
you know, so just granted rock face in between two
aspen gross and I suddenly see a man there. And
I didn't see where he came from, you know, but
I you know, my my attention is on my mules
and other things. But then suddenly he was there, and
he looked very much like a homeless person that you

(45:18):
would see in a city. He didn't look like a grungy,
you know, backpacker who's been on the JUNR trail for
you know, a week or whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
He had no pack on him.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
He like I said, he was grungey dirty. He looked
very disheveled. He kind of looked like, you know, a
homeless person from a city. He had like layered type clothing,
you know, stuff that you wouldn't be wearing if you
had thought about, you know, your attire, like if you
were going to backpack the trail. And then the way

(45:56):
he was looking at me, and kind of he had
this kind of leary like keeping a distance. You keep
going that direction because he's going the opposite way of me,
and I'm going to keep going this direction. We'll keep
our distance and we'll pretend like nothing happened. Type you know,

(46:18):
not menacing.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Like he was up to no good. But it was.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
It was definitely an extremely odd encounter, and I just
kept I watched him as I walked away the other direction,
and he went off into one of the you know,
not at a fast paced or anything. But he kept
his you know, he kept his body language, you know,
slightly turned but in my direction, and his face in
my direction until I couldn't see him anymore. And that's

(46:46):
you know, I don't know. It could be a logical explanation,
but it was definitely very strange.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Were you by yourself?

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Yes, there's me and my horse and five mules. Yeah,
talking talking to the other packer that I work with
afterwards about the strange guy that I saw on the trails.
She didn't run into him at all.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
I would be more afraid of running into people, I think,
by myself out in the middle of nowhere. Then I
would be running into like a cryptid, just because I
feel like, for some reason, people are the more the
ones you can't really trust. I think we are the
monsters sometimes, I.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Agree, Yeah, I completely agree.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
I dabble into a lot of true crime stuff, so
I just feel like all these shows I've watched and
some of the things I listened to, it's just like, yeah,
I think humans might be the worst monsters out there.
That's just my take on it. Yep, what was the

(47:54):
other one you had happened to?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
So fast forward maybe five years with my own business,
So California doesn't have wolves, anymore.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
That well, they do have, so we've anyways, nowadays some
lone wolves and maybe like a pack. I think a
few years ago I saw may have expanded their radius
into California, parts of California, but back.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Fourteen fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Ago, wolves weren't really a thing in California. So anyways,
I was. I had a client who just happened to live, like,
I don't know, twelve miles out into the forest, and
they needed someone to watch their place. And you're not
going to find, you know, trustworthy individual with four wheel

(48:58):
drive and the willingness to go that far out for
what they needed. So but I really enjoyed it. It was
kind of change in scenery for me. But on my
headed back, on my way back into town, you know,
cruising down the mountain, the one lane mountain road at

(49:19):
a higher speed than I should have been, but you know,
just enjoying the change of scenery. Like I said, there
were two what looked to be coyotes, but they were
much bigger than coyotes should be, and they were so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
They were so beautiful.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
They ran from my right across the road to my
left and disappeared into the trees and I thought, oh
my God, like I felt so blessed to have witnessed,
you know, such a beautiful.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Moment.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
But you know, just like any other experience, you think
about it after the fact and you're like, Number one,
coyotes aren't that big. Number two, their muzzle in their
head was much bigger than the usual long, skinny coyote

(50:17):
muzzle that you see. Their hair was a lot fuller,
a lot thicker, and it was more like a sandy brown,
whereas coyotes tend to be a little bit darker brown
with you know, the darker tipped hair.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
You know, just all these thoughts on.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
How it most likely wasn't coyotes. And when I do
see coyotes out in the wild, I usually only see
one at a time. I don't think I've ever seen
two together. And they also weren't running scared. You know,
if they hear a vehicle coming close to them, they're
running off, they're stopping at a safe distance, and they're

(51:06):
looking back, you know, the usual coyote behavior.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
These two weren't doing that.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
They they were looking like they were having the time
of their lives running across the road. Just in total bliss, I.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Actually just saw one Weirdly enough, I believe it was.
It was yesterday or maybe two days ago, but it
was just running along the side of the road on
the highway, and I pointed it out to my wife
and kids. And you don't see like they're around here.
I hear them all the time, but you don't usually
see them in broad daylight, just running out and about

(51:42):
by itself, And it was it was kind of strange.
But we hear them. We hear them howling and stuff
quite a bit, especially at night time usually like beginning
to spring, they're a lot louder than usually in the fall.
They're a loud again too, But for the most part,

(52:07):
I think that's just we hear a lot of the
younger ones.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Yeah, at night, you hear them, you know, all talking
to each other and singing and stuff.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
Yeah, I enjoy it. I like to hear them. Then
sometimes they sound very close and then I get nervous.
It's like, well, I'm afraid to leave this little recording
barn and go inside and hopefully there out here waiting
for me.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yeah, they're savage little creatures. I have the same thought, like,
I enjoy hearing them too. But I was camping last year,
the same time of year, and I could hear him
out in a distance. But then things started getting closer
and it was just me and the tent.

Speaker 8 (52:49):
And I'm like, oh no, it was not my evening
enjoyment of you know, the wildlife right changed.

Speaker 6 (53:02):
I don't know of any cases around here of anyone
being attacked by coyotes. Usually they're very skittish, so I
can't see them actually doing that. But I was like,
I'd be the one that's lucky enough to be the
one that gets attacked by you.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Yeah, rabid kenyoty, Right.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
We'll get a bunch of shots in my stomach for rabies. Old, No,
doesn't sound very pleasant. So some of the dreams that you've.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Had, Oh, I'm not quite done though.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Oh you still got more.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
I got two more because I told you I lived
in a haunted house, and I never really told you
what happened. So I think I want to tell you
these last two things and we'll call it good. Maybe
i'll call back a different time.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Okay, that works.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
So we moved into this house.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
In twenty twenty one, and it was built in eighteen
eighteen ninety two. It's in an now a ghost town,
but it was a booming town back in the day
and this this house was one of the original boarding houses.

(54:13):
So you know, we knew we were moving into a
ghost town, a place that has lots of history to it. Luckily,
none of the experiences here in the house have been
you know, anything that's scary, but we did, you know,
come prepared and you know, taking taking over the home

(54:36):
with with love, you know, giving, giving love and keeping
it alive type thing. So the two experiences that I've
had that are worth noting. Within the first few months
of us moving in, I was sitting in my bedroom
with my two kids at the time. My husband was
on the other side of the bedroom, and we were

(54:57):
just relaxing at the end of the day and I
heard a male voice say thank you in my right ear,
and so I looked at my husband, thinking to say,
you know, what do you.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Think you mean for?

Speaker 4 (55:09):
And I realized, you know, he's on the other side
of the room and he's not even paying attention to me.
And I heard it from back behind me in my
right ear.

Speaker 6 (55:20):
Did it it sounded just like your husband?

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Though no, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
It was a male. It was a male voice, so
logically I would think that it was you know him right,
but it was kind of It wasn't like a whispered,
creepy thank you, but it was a quieter, you know
thank you. And I, you know, knowing that this house
has lots of residual energy and possibly a spirit or two,

(55:51):
I just took it as you know, appreciation. I guess.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Yeah, at least it wasn't anything menacing exactly.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Yeah. And the last thing, so, like I said, it
was a boarding house, but I think afterwards or maybe
even before, when they were when they first built it,
it was a family with kids here. So I was
down in the kitchen and you know, looking towards the

(56:20):
wall over the cutting board, and I had three kids
at this time, and I hear a kid go running
behind me from my left to my right, and so
I'm thinking it's the youngest going to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
She needs help.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
So I call out to her and ask her, you know,
if she needed help, and I get no answer. So
I go and look in the bathroom and no one's
in there, and I realized that all three of my
kids are upstairs, and I don't know what just ran
through the kitchen behind me. It was definitely you know

(57:00):
it had the presence of something short and on two legs, so.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
I don't know what it is, but it's just the
idea of children aspects to it all creep me out more.
And I don't know if that is just like a
common thing for a lot of people. But when you
hear of spirits and houses haunt and you always see
like the creepy little kids or anything, I don't know
that stuff, just it's just more that's actually like terrifying

(57:29):
to me, more so than an old creepy guy or whatever,
like the small kids. For some reason, it gets me.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Oh, I totally, I'm right there with you, and I
would have been more creeped out by it if I
had any of those feelings in this house. But I
really do feel comfortable here, so it was more interesting
than creepy.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
I don't get spooked too easily, so and I don't
say this to try and like bring things around, So
I definitely don't want to do any of that. But
I've often wanted to experience some of the stuff that
people claim that they've experienced, but I don't want to
experience it here. And like the things that we have experienced,

(58:16):
I'm not really a big fan of so I want
to go somewhere else and have someone else's experience. You know,
I don't want to. I don't want to bring it home,
and I don't want anything here. So for me, it's
like when it comes to paranormal stuff, I try to
avoid a lot of it just because I don't want
to bring things back.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Mm hmmm, yeah, I don't want an attachment.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Well, it has been hang on one second. My air
conditioner decided to kick on, so I have to edit
that album.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
Have it.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
We've been going on for close to an hour. You
said you had the last two things to discuss, and
the other things you can call back on for another episode.
So if you want to wrap this one up, I'm
I'm good with that too. It's up to you.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Yep, sounds good. I'm good.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
I feel complete. I'm happy to have shared those things,
and I look forward to, you know, seeing what your
other listeners have to say about what they think on
those experiences.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Definitely, well, Rachel, it's been a pleasure talking with you.
I definitely appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Thank you for your time.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
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Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
I've heard a story be laid last night about something
alert along a wood line, huge foot print, strange lights
in the sky.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
They claim it's.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
Nothing, but I knew they light it sees your laughing
to laugh in my face.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
But something about this makes me say, what if it's real?
What if they knew?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
What if The answers are coming from you, spending stores.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Wasting mine time? Hearing boy it says? Is it all
in their minds? They can call me crazy, but I
just want them from what if it's true? What if
it's real? What if it's true?

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
What it for?

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Worlds not what we knew? Till all tells?

Speaker 9 (01:00:56):
Blend me in a story that starts where the little Oh,
what if it's real?

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting
for you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
They see if the dog man walking or maybe I'm
offman fights above the very giants hidden beneath the lies.
They say, it's just stories. It's all they believe, the
fairy tale sport of things we can't perceive. They want
to keep us blindly, They want.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
To break our wheel. But I'm not buying it. I'm
not swallowing another pill, forest fed poison. The lies were
made to what if the truth could set us free?

Speaker 9 (01:01:41):
The alien swignals traveling through time secret space protograms are
racing their minds.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.
What if it's true? What if it's real? What if
it's true? What if worlds not what we do? Ten
Foil tells fully.

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
Me And a story that starts where the logic is
what if it's read?

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
What if it's true?

Speaker 9 (01:02:14):
The answers are waiting, but they're weighed in for you.
They if they lie, we all been dining.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
The signs are there if you open your eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Aliens cricked its demon's ghost, the getul them two?

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
What if it's me?

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
Or what if it's What if it's real? What if
it's true?

Speaker 9 (01:02:39):
What if the world's not what we do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Ten Foil tells Fullyeve Me, a story that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Starts where the logic what if it's rain. What if
that's true. The answers are waiting, they're weighed in for you.
It's all in our head. It's always arm bindings. These
voices can be silence.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
The truth must rise.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Temple tells, it's pulling me. What if it's reading? What
if it's true,