An American Tragedy | Thursday, 01/30/2025

Trantifa strikes again - this time as a suspected trans militant allegedly confesses to traveling to the U.S. Capitol armed to kill members of President Trump's cabinet. Plus, a retired Marine Corps colonel joins us to discuss the tragic collision of an Army Black Hawk helicopter and an American Airlines flight last night in D.C. And finally, former Democrat Senator Bob Menendez says Trump was right about political witch hunts, as he gets sentenced to 11 years behind bars - is this a real conversion or is he trying to get a pardon?


Guests:


Jeff Younger | Father of James Younger
David Daleiden | Project Lead, The Center for Medical Progress
Col. William Dunn (Ret.) | President, Strategic Resilience Group, LLC
Alex Zdan | GOP Political Strategist & Former Candidate, U.S. Senate - New Jersey

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm your host, Karen McKinney, and this is tipping point
Trantifa strikes again. Last night, we spoke at great length

(00:21):
with investigative journalist Andy know about the alleged trans terror
cell that may be linked to several homicides, including that
of the CBP officer killed in Vermont on President Trump's
inauguration day, And now tonight we're learning that the suspect,
arrested on Monday, around the time of the now Treasury
Secretary's confirmation hearing, is likewise perhaps a Trantifa militant, with

(00:44):
Trantifa being a combination of trans and Antifa. Andy No
reports today that Ryan Michael or Riley Jane English is
the Trantifa militant who's being federally charged for trying to
kill members of President Trump's cabinet and for wanting to
burn down a conservative think tank. In the charging documents,
these targets are identified as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, House

(01:07):
speaker Mike Johnson, and the Heritage Foundation. The twenty four
year old man from Massachusetts who was referred to in
court filings as a she left his phone at home
so that he could not be tracked On his way
to the Capitol, he brought along molotov cocktails and bomb
making equipment, as well as a folding knife and lighter.
While surveying the US Capitol and how best to carry

(01:28):
out his alleged plan, he realized that Scott best At
was present for his hearing, and so the suspect allegedly
changed course to zero in on the now Treasury Secretary,
Despite later claiming that he was prepared to die of
suicide by cop at the end of his planned murder spree.
At some point, the suspect decided to give himself up
and turned himself over to US Capitol police. He allegedly

(01:50):
confessed to being inspired by the reaction provoked by Luigi Mangioni,
the suspect in the slaying of the United Healthcare CEO.
He also accused his targets of being Nazis, how original,
and have been complicit in the killings of his quote
unquote sisters, who I take it to mean trans women,
because that's the lie the Left always propagates. That was
written on the back of a receipt found in the

(02:12):
suspect's pocket in what appears to be a confession letter
and an apology to someone named Judith explaining his actions.
These sources of radical trans militants are the types who
are terminally online, running forums and pages and commenting constantly
on all things trans or making everything about trans. It's
the online web. These unstable and oftentimes murderous adults weave

(02:34):
which catch young people and even children in them. Kids
want meaning, belonging, a righteous struggle to fight against, and
adults who showed them the way towards the posed happiness
the key to life. The transpredators know this well, and
they play on those vulnerabilities, creating one of the largest
social contagions we've ever seen, and perhaps the most damaging
we've seen. President Trump is doing his best to rectify

(02:57):
the situation by federally endorsing the truth there only being
two genders which are present from conception and which cannot change.
He's also signing an executive order which for its federal
dollars from going toward to sex change procedures for anyone
under the age of nineteen and now. Republican Senator Josh
Holly of Missouri is putting forward legislation to allow lawsuits

(03:18):
to be filed against doctors and pediatric clinics which perform
sex change procedures and operations on minors which have led
to damages. These changes and more, which seemed unthinkable just
a year ago, are a massive boon to suffering parents
like my first guest tonight. So joining us now to
discuss is Jeff Younger, the father of James Younger. Jeff,

(03:39):
thanks for being here tonight. Hi.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Thanks great.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So you've publicly thanked President Trump for his recent executive
orders on the transissue, saying that it perhaps has saved
your son, or that it could save your son. So
for those in the audience who are unaware of your story,
can you explain for us what you mean by that.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, three years of age, my ex wife, who's a pediatrician,
began to transition my son to a girl. I went
through a lengthy period of litigation where I tried to
stop her from chemically castrating my son. She worked with
a pediatrician in Flower Mountain, Texas to chemically castrate him.
At age eight or nine, the schools in Capel, Texas

(04:20):
secretly transitioned him behind my back. I would take him
to school in boys clothes. The teacher would give him
address and tell him to use the girl's bathroom, and
this went on for years. We had a trial in
twenty nineteen in Texas where the top transgender experts in
the world showed up at this little Texas courtroom. I
won that trial. I got fifty to fifty custody and

(04:40):
a control on all the medical procedures on my sons.
The Dallas County judges, which are very liberal, voted to
move my case and into another court with a judge
who had a gender expansive daughter, and that judge systematically
stripped me of all parental rights and eventually it allowed
my ex wife to moved to California and my son

(05:01):
was chemically castrated in December. I went all the way
up to the Texas Supreme Court, and even the so
called conservative Texas Supreme Court let her move. So I've
been looking for ways to delay this and ways to
you know, my son's just now on puberty blockers, so
there's not any permanent damage. And Trump's executive order provides

(05:23):
a lot of an inanition for me to go back
and get this stuff delayed.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
We are so sorry, of course, I know we've talked
to you before on this, and our hearts go out
to I mean now that I'm a new parent myself.
I just gave birth to my first daughter in August.
I just I can't even it's almost it's still almost
incomprehensible to understand what you're going through. But I think
I have some notion now knowing how much I love
my baby. So again, I just want to make sure

(05:49):
that's well understood that my heart everything is with you
right now. And as you mentioned, with some of these
actions being taken at the federal level, they open up
some new avenues for you. So what are some of
those avenues that you're expl.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
First of all, my son's in the largest gender clinic
in the United States. It used to be run by
Johanna Olsen Kennedy, who has hidden research out of her
own clinic showing that her treatments have no effect on children.
In some cases, it has harmful effects. She's admitted in
The New York Times that she is not releasing that
evidence because it might be used by people who are

(06:23):
against trench ender treatments. So he's in this clinic. If
Trump follows through, and the administration follows through, and the
bureaucracy follows through, and they actually defund these procedures, so Medicare, Medicaid,
Shritcare will not receive reimbursements if they stop reimbursements to
private insurance companies. A lot of people don't know, but

(06:44):
this whole craze began when Obama forced insurance companies to
pay for these procedures. But they're really not profitable for
the insurance company to ensure, so they depend on public subsidies,
So people don't know you're paying for all these transgender
These re insurance reimburse transgender procedures on kids, so that

(07:05):
will delay it, I think because lupron, which is what
they use to chemically castrate these kids, is actually the
most expensive drug sold in the world, so it's unlikely
that people would be willing to pay out of pocket
for it. The other thing is, and this is really important.
It's been ignored actually by the press largely, but Part
three of the executive Order says that the Department all

(07:29):
federal departments must use the best available science when determining
whether these procedures are appropriate for children. And the thing
about that is there have been systematic reviews in Sweden, Finland, Canada,
and the United Kingdom, and all of these systematic reviews
have found that there is no evidentiary basis to recommend

(07:52):
these procedures. So we have a huge amount of scientific
information saying that these procedures don't work and can be armful.
And if the federal agencies are required to use the
best science and they can't use the WPATH standards, which
President Trump's executive order explicitly says, you cannot use the
WPATH standards, which were just invented by transactivists, not by scientists,

(08:17):
it's unlikely that the FDA could possibly approve these procedures
on kids, and I could get a delay and save
my son.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I am so hopeful and optimistic for you because this
has just been from start to finish a nightmare. And
if I remember correctly, I believe your son. When you
were still having visitation rights with him, I think he
was telling you right that he didn't want to be
a girl. It was something his mom wanted him to do.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, he told me something. And it's you know, even now,
just even saying this, it's just hard for me to
emotionally handle this. But he just looked me square in
the eye and say, I asked him, why do you
wear dresses? At your mom's house because he never presented
as a girl with anybody else but his mom. And
he just looked me square in the eye and said,

(09:01):
my mom doesn't love me if I'm not a girl.
And that's what happened to this poor boy. And unfortunately,
every single court, every single agency, every single person that
could have helped this boy in Texas failed him. From
the governor all the way down to the district courts.
They all found my son and eventually just let him

(09:24):
go to California and be chemically castrated because I made
it illegal here in Texas. It's really a sad story
about how even in conservative states children are really at
risk that they are.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
And do you think that speaks also to the social
contagion aspect of this right? You know, it appears that
your son was seeking the love and validation of his mother.
We've had Walt higher on before. He was seeking the
love and validation of his grandmother, who addressed him up
as well in girls clothes when his you know, parents
had him with her all day while they were working.
And then he transitioned to a woman, lived as a
woman for many years, and then has deed transition and

(09:58):
realizes the great harm that we he was done to him.
And then you have young people who are online, right.
They may have a broken family. They don't see mom,
they don't see dad too often, they may not have
a great relationship with either parent. They feel alone in
this world. They don't have any sense of religion or
moral guidance, and so they're just kind of living day
to day, bored out of their minds. They feel like
they have no future, no hope. And then online they

(10:18):
have these adults right who tell them this is the
way to happiness. Here's a step by step guide that
will make you go from depressed to super happy. And
we're all gonna love you. We're gonna love bomb you
as long though as you say that you're gender non
conforming at least in some way. But if you go
all the way trans, oh, then you're super love So
does that speak to the social contagion aspect? As will?

(10:39):
The young kids are being preyed on, emotionally manipulated by
adults who do know better.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
There's no question about it. And it's not just like
some depraved people online. Every psychologist and I'll name their names,
doctor Linda Thrate's, doctor Susan Fletcher. These are two psychologists
in Texas, and they went out of their way to
affirm my son as a girl, to the point where
Susan Fletcher would really resisted seeing my son when he

(11:07):
came from my house because he presented as a boy
from my home. She wanted to only see him when
he presented as a girl. And they affirmed him as
a girl. They used female pronouns, they used uh, you know,
they called him by his fake girl's name. These these
people in professional capacities, their authority figures to these children,
are misleading them and harming them. And and I think

(11:28):
these these uh, these professionals that were ordered by the
court actually abused my son.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh yeah, they did that. Yeah, yeah, there's there's no
doubt about that. At this point. You know, the way
things were until President Trump took office, it was that
if there was any notion whatsoever that your child may
be trans well, then the trans identity was now seen
as their as their identity, just flat out right, I exactly.
And so if you tried to say, no, I'm going
to reaffirm them as what they actually are. That now

(11:57):
was the conversion therapy instead of trying to make them
into a new gender that was no longer conversion therapy.
It's so bizarre. I know. There was a case of
a father up in I think the Seattle, Washington area,
same thing as you. Young son who was very autistic,
had an issue, had a mental health issue. He goes
to the hospital. When the father goes to get his son,
he keeps talking about his son and the nurses and

(12:18):
thankfully he was very quick at this. They kept saying, oh,
you mean your daughter, and they kept saying that. He
knew because he knew the political climate, especially in Washington State,
so he started saying, oh, yeah, my daughter. He had
no clue. This was the first time he'd ever heard
anything about his son maybe being trans and again, his
son was autistic in the throes of a mental health crisis,
was saying who knows what he was saying, right, But

(12:39):
like you said, now, all the adults, all the ones
with the fancy degrees and badges, were saying, your son
is now your daughter. He used their terminology. Once he
got his son, he fled the state. They ran and
then basically he told you know, outlets later reporters saying
my son was never a girl. He told me later
what had happened that he was obviously having this issue.
He said some stuff that he now regrets, and he's

(13:00):
a boy and he's completely happy being a boy. But
like you said, it's those with the badges who are
in charge, and that is just it's I don't even
know what to say except for that it's evil. But
last year, before I let you go tonight, we've been
seeing an uptick in violence. Right. They always said it
was us, the Christian conservative right, that we were the
scary terrorist threat. And yet time and time again it's
the left, obviously, but even more specific the fringe, it's

(13:23):
the trans terrorism. That's why I started off the night
with so last minute or so to you on this
Does that surprise you at all?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It doesn't. In fact, I posted and Andy goes work
and he's a friend of mine, and I posted his
work on X the other day and I said, the
shadow of right wing terrorism is always hovering over America,
but it's always left wing bombs that drop from the sky.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I was at a I'll give you an example. I
did a speech when I was running for office at
the University of North Texas. Antifa took over the classroom.
They came in acting like students, and they took over
the classroom. They rioted, they used their usual area denial
techniques against me, but I wouldn't leave and I was

(14:06):
making them look like fools on film. They eventually set
fire to the building, forcing its evacuation. When I left
with a police escort out the back, two hundred Antifa
assaulted me. I got into a fistfight with two hundred people.
I got two ribs broken, I got eye socket crushed.
Police officer was injured. They tried to overturn the car

(14:26):
once the police got me in the car and they
had to run over somebody to avoid the car from
being turned over. They put me in jail overnight, in
protective custody because people were out hunting me with shotguns. So,
you know, this is the thing. The you're dealing with
people who have adopted a sense of personal identity that

(14:47):
is uncompromising and it's completely at odds with reality. So
you're never going to be able to talk reason to
these people. You know what conservatives are right now, where
the guys in the white coat saying, you know, calm down,
crazy person, you know, and trying to get them to
a safe place these people are actually very dangerous. I
wear a bulletproof vest when I go to a public speeches.

(15:09):
Ever since that riot, I've been stabbed, So yeah, I
totally get And you know what happened to Andy go
Andy Goe was hitting the head with a bike lock
and he suffered brain damage from it. These people are
extremely dangerous. They're never going to back down because they
vested their entire identity at it, and I think conservatives
need to take steps to protect themselves. I certainly do that.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
They do well, you know, like our hearts, thoughts, prayers,
everything is with you, and we pray for the best
with your son and getting your family back together. Thank
you so much for joining us tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
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state of California and it's unprecedented prosecution of our next
guest undercover video reporting a planned parenthood's buying and selling
of boarded baby body parts. He's here to explain when
we come back.

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Speaker 1 (16:27):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
Years of lawfare are now ending with merely a whimper,
first against President Trump and now against pro life activist
David Delighton, the founder of the Center for Medical Progress,
and for journalist Sandra Merritt. Their undercover video from over
a decade ago exposed planned parenthoods buying and selling of

(16:48):
aborted baby body parts. While Kamala Harris was serving as
Attorney General of California, she weaponized the state government to
go after delight and and merit. Now one point, de
Lighten was facing fifteen felony counts. Eventually, the lack of
merit to this egregious form of lawfair meant that over
the course of nine years, charges dropped one by one.
But that didn't make this lawfair any less stressful or

(17:10):
terrifying for those who lived it. So now the current
Attorney General, Robbonta, has reduced the entire case down to
just one count of unlawful recording of confidential communication. While
Bonta is marketing this plea deal as a huge win
for his side, it's delight in who is Delighted. Bonta
isn't doing the TV circuit to promote this plea deal
because it shows how hollow their case has been for

(17:33):
nine years now. The plea deal of no contest means
that Delighten admits to no wrongdoing. There will be no
punishment for it, like fines or probation. The felony will
be entered as a misdemeanor in six to twelve months
and then reduced entirely to a not guilty plea, and
then will be dismissed altogether. Joining us now to discuss
is none other than David delight In, project lead at

(17:55):
the Center for Medical Progress. David, thanks for being here tonight.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Hey, great, severie, great to be here with you.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
How are you doing great? How about you? I'm sure
you're feeling so relieved, and I just want to say
a huge and heartfelt congratulations to you and your loved
ones for finally coming out on the other side of
this nightmare.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
Yeah, it's you know, it's really it's a huge victory
for my undercover reporting and for the public's right to
know the truth about how planned parenthood is commodifying and
selling the body parts of late term aboarded babies using
partial birth abortions to do so. I saw you put
up the press release from Attorney General Rob Bonta, which
is quite an exaggerated press release. The judge specifically ruled

(18:36):
on Monday that we were not being convicted and he
was not finding as guilty. And that's only something that
would happen if if there's a breach of the agreement
that we came to with the Attorney General's Office on
Monday to completely dismiss the case, expunge it, and wipe
it away completely. There's no jail time, there's no fines,

(19:00):
there's no probation, there's no penalties of any kind. So,
after eight years of really vicious law fair trying to
silence my message, trying to cover up and delete and
erase the undercover videos from history the Attorney General's Office,
after nine years of pursuing the snipe hunt really that

(19:20):
was launched by Kamala Harris nine years ago at the
behest of planned parenthood, they're walking away with nothing, and
they know that, and they really wish that everybody else
wouldn't know that or wouldn't realize that. But they're walking
away with nothing. After nine years, and you really have to.
It really makes you ask the question I think people
should be asking the question. They went to such links

(19:43):
for nine years, pursuing me and Sandra, trying to shut
us up, trying to cover up the undercover footage, only
to walk away with nothing after nine years. Why did
they work so hard for nothing for nine years? It's
because Planned Parenthood demanded that the the facts about their
fetal harvesting programs not be allowed to be out publicly.

(20:07):
It's because those facts are so damning and so discrediting
for Planned Parenthood in the abortion industry's entire reputation. Because
what we documented on the undercover footage, and what we've
continued to corroborate with follow up feuer requests and public
records requests that we've been reporting on for the past
year now, is that the dark fact pattern behind all

(20:29):
of this is that there are not a small number
of cases where there are late term, healthy, premi aged
babies that are aborted at taxpayer funded planned parenthood clinics,
and then instead of being that are aborted whole and
alive at taxpayer funded planned parent abortion clinics, and instead

(20:49):
of being provided proper medical care in order to allow
them to thrive and survive, they are funneled into these
harvesting programs for taxpayer funded experimentation. Was really encouraged the
past couple of days when Bobby Kennedy was asked about
that exact issue in his Senate confirmation hearings yesterday and today,
they're going to re implement President Trump's policies. They're going

(21:11):
to get taxpayer funding out of the abortion industry and
out of sponsoring these gruesome, barbaric experiments on late term
premie age babies. And I think we're finally going to
start to see justice both for the victims of aborted
fetal harvesting programs as well as to stop forcing taxpayers
to prop up the grotesque, barbaric late term abortion industry

(21:35):
across the country. So we're starting to see a lot
of dawn breaking right now on a lot of these
different areas. And this is what Planned Parenthood and Kamala
Harris and their cronies in the San Francisco elite have
tried to prevent from happening for almost a decade now.
But first Rugby Wade was overturned and fell, and now
the rest of it is going to start, the rest
of the dominoes are going to start falling as well,

(21:56):
I think. So I'm really happy about that.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I am as well. And I think that's so important
to point out, right because undercover videos like yours, so
often you'll hear from Planned Parenthood or from the left
more broadly, and they'll say, oh, all of that, that's
just a lie. They're smearing our good name, which is funny, right,
as if they have a good name. But they'll say
that you and your videos it smeared their good name.
It was deceptively edited. But if that's really the case

(22:19):
of none of this, as you have laid out, is happening,
why didn't they go after you for defamation? Why didn't
they win? They couldn't because there's no evidence for that, right,
So they had to try and use every other trick
in the book Kamala Harris when she was ag of California,
they had to rage your house. I mean, it's horrific,
But they, like I said, they couldn't convict you in
court of any of that because it's not you. Everything
you said is what is true. So then they can

(22:40):
just resort to just trying to shut you up and
shut you down, But of course you're the one coming
out of this smiling and happy bonds and the rest
can go cry that they failed to do what they
wanted to do to shut you up and to push
you away. Really, but can you remind the audience just
how horrifically you were treated by Kamala Harris by this
when they weaponize the state against you with the raid

(23:02):
and of course with the start of this whole case
against you, this lawfair against you, and then therefore connecting
it to hertire in the White House with former President
Joe Biden, and how they weaponize the DOJ to go
after even more pro lifers as well.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, it's really an incredible story, and thank you for yeah,
for beginning to make that connection.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
So flash back to twenty fifteen when.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
We first started releasing the undercover videos, and many things
sort of got started in twenty fifteen that are still
playing out today, both with me and other people. But
so in the summer twenty fifteen, when Centa Forradical Progress
first started releasing the undercover footage of top level planned
parenthood abortion doctors callously negotiating the harvestings and sale of

(23:48):
tiny aborted baby lungs and brains and hearts and livers,
talking about how they would use ultrasound guidance to flip
the baby to a feet first position and then slowly
bring them out all in one piece, so that at
the end of it they could get the entire head
out in one piece and harvest and sell intact brains,
describing using partier birth abortions criminal partier birth abortions in

(24:11):
order to do so. So when all this came out,
plant Herd was furious. Obviously, I mean, you know you
would too if they document a viewer exposed doing similar activity.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
So plant heard it was furious, and they.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Ran to their powerful ally at the at the time,
the Attorney General of California, Kamala Harris. She had a choice,
as the top cop of California at that time, she
could either investigate the taxpayer funded abortion megaclinics across her
state that were involved in this black market of selling
aborted baby body parts, or she could persecute the whistleblowers,

(24:43):
myself and my undercover team, and she chose to do
the latter. At the behest of Planned Parenthood, her major
campaign donors for her entire career, she ordered a raid
on my small, one bedroom apartment in southern California. She
sent eleven jack booted California Deal Jay agents too on
the explicit instructions of Planned Parenthood to seize the undercover

(25:05):
footage and try and prevent any more of it from
coming out. Then as soon as Kamala Harris gets into
the White House as Vice President in twenty twenty one,
I don't think that it's any coincidence that you see
similar raids and you see similar similar lawfare against peaceful
pro life advocates at the behest of the abortion industry,

(25:28):
with the not just the weaponization of government against pro
life speech, but also the weaponization of government to cover
up crimes of partial birth abortion and infanticide a third
trimester abortion clinics in our nation's capital. This is the
case of the Justice for the Five of Harriet, Holly,
Angel Phoenix, and Christopher X. Five late term premi aged babies,

(25:52):
some of whom are completely intact born and call no
evidence of the cause of death before the abortion. They
look like and like they were born alive and then
either left to die or or actually killed before they
were shipped off to a so called waste to energy
facility in Baltimore to burn them for electricity. So so

(26:14):
the so so there's a there's there's been a pattern
of unbelievably aggressive weaponization of government over the past several
years to try to silence viewpoints that the establishment elite
disagrees with and to try to cover up barbaric crimes
against women and children that are being done by the
taxpayer funded abortion industry. So that's been you know, there's

(26:38):
a very dark chapter in in recent history. It looks
like that is starting to end, and we're going to
start to see uh more, We're going to start to
see better government and more responsible use of authority and
uh and that's something that all of us should celebrate.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
No, definitely, And as you were talking about some of
the grous and details, and I think it is really
important to talk about it because I don't know, I've
been involved in the pro life world for a while now,
ever since I was even in middle school. I remember
I would debate teachers, debate students, and I mean like
debate debate where kids would come up to me in
between class right and yell and scream in my face.
Teachers would bring me up to the front of the

(27:17):
classroom to basically say, explain yourself to these kids, how
dare you be the way you are and to think
the way you think? And it's so bizarre because, at
least in my mind, you're pregnant. We know what it
results in. You give birth to a baby. You know,
assuming nothing goes wrong with the pregnancy, there's a baby
there from start to finish, from conception until natural death.
So to end that means there has to be a

(27:39):
dead baby. It's very, very logical, and yet it's so
surprising to me time and time again talking to you.
Those on the pro choice, pro abortion side, they don't
get it. They okay, no activists, you go after you,
they get it. They know exactly what they're doing there.
A lot of them are are quite i would say,
even demon possessed. It's insane and it's scary. But there's
a lot of just random people wi schlupping around this

(28:00):
world right now. Oh yeah, choice, it sounds so great,
and they have no clue of the details. And is
that why Planned Parenthood and other abortion groups hate you
so much? Because you bring to light, as you were
saying earlier, the nasty, nitty, great gritty details that even
a lot of their own supporters don't even know.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
One hundred percent, you know, the other the you know,
the the other thing that my undercover reporting shows very clearly,
and maybe this is the thing that Planned Parent wants
to cover up the most. I mean, I don't know,
they haven't, you know again, like they and their supporters
are not coming on the you know, on the media
circuit to talk about, you know, how they feel.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
About all of this nine years later.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
But my videos show really clearly that the people who
are the most invested in terms of their practical time
and their effort and the careers, the people who are
most involved in making industrial scale, taxpayer funded abortion a
thing in our country, the abortion doctors. They know full
well that their business is based around killing babies, and

(29:02):
actually a lot of them are are pretty tortured by it.
A lot of them are pretty upset about that. They
have nightmares, they have drinking problems, they need therapy, and
a lot of them are really you know, a lot.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Of them are this.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
I've said this on a podcast the other day, and
I'm surprised a lot of people don't realize this Plan
Parent openly talked about and advertised. This was maybe ten
years ago when I was just starting my undercover work
for the first time. They used to have they would
they put on what they call psychosocial workshops for values
clarification for the abortion doctors. All right, just name psychosocial

(29:36):
workshops for values clarification sounds like brainwashing by another by another.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Name to me, I mean, what is that supposed to mean?

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Well, these are these are their special sessions where they
have to bring together their abortion workforce to try and
really like purge out and deal with the frankly fairly
normal human feelings and traumatic feelings that they're having about
the fact that they're having to stare face to face
at dead babies that they kill in their breeding rooms
every every week. That's what their business is based around.

(30:03):
They admit that they know when they're harvesting little baby
hearts and lungs and livers and brains. There's no there's
no way to get around that. And I don't know
all the things that go into somebody's life to bring
them to the position where they feel like they have
to do.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
That for a career. It's pretty sad.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
There are other you know, there's other people, there's other advocates,
there's other organizations out there who are sort of more
specialized in speaking to people like that and and helping
people with with problems like that, and helping to get
people out of the abortion industry, which is something that
I want for for everybody and for every.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
One of them that that I met.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
But but that is you know that, that is the reality.
You know, Planned Parenthood's big taxpayer funded abortion business is
based on killing babies who are recognizably.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Human, just like you or I.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
They know it, we know it, and pretty much everybody
is starting to realize that at this point, and and
the only the only.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
Question remaining is wire taxpayers supporting it?

Speaker 7 (31:04):
And what more can we have in a whole of
government approach to make sure that the industrial scale killing
of babies and experimenting on them afterwards is consigned to
the ashmenh of history where it belongs.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, David, we thank god that you are now freed
right from this great nightmare in California, this persecution, this prosecution,
really this persecution of you through prosecution. Once again, congratulations
on them dropping the case against you. Thank you so
much for speaking out as openly as you do. We
look forward to what you do, you know, in the
months and years to come, and thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And coming up next, an American tragedy as a plane
collides with a helicopter over the Potomac River, killing all
sixty seven people. But who's to blame for this catastrophe?
Details when we come back.

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Speaker 1 (32:23):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
Remember all the times where buddhaj Edge or Austin or
even Biden himself, We're all mia nowhere to be found,
even during a crisis, while the adults are actually back
in charge this time and that will not be happening anymore.
Sean Duffy, the new Transportation Secretary, was on the ground
at the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in DC as

(32:46):
of last night, immediately after news broke of a crash
involving a military helicopter and an American Airlines plane. All
passengers are tragically presumed to cease as the rescue operation
has now transitioned into a recovery mission. More than sixty
passengers and crew were on board the commercial flight, including
a team of US figure skaters, and three service members

(33:08):
were on board the Army Blackhawk helicopter. In addition to
Secretary Duffy, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth likewise updated the American
people today. Listen.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
The unit involved, the Army unit involved with Bravo Company,
twelfth Aviation Battalion at Fort Belvoir. It was an annual
proficiency training flight. And when we look at the crew
and we're not all not all can have been notified,
So we're going to withhold ranks and names at this point.
We do know on.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Our side who was involved.

Speaker 8 (33:37):
It was a fairly experienced crew and that was doing
a required annual night evaluation. They did have night vision goggles.
The twelve Aviation Battalion. As of now, it's granted a
forty eight hour operational pause on contingency missions as what
happened is reviewed and a senior level aviation team, an

(33:59):
investigation team from our Aviation Safety Center was deployed last
night and already is in Washington, DC to investigate what's
going on. We anticipate that the investigation will quickly be
able to determine whether the aircraft was in the corridor
and at the right altitude at the time of the incident,
and it.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Wasn't just the cabinet. President Trump attended the White House
Press Briefing today, where he answered questions and had some
choice words for the former administration.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
Listen, the FAA, which is overseen by Secretary Pete Buddhachek,
a real winner. That's the guy's a real winner. Do
you know how badly everything's run since he's run this
Department of Transportation. He's a disaster. He was a disaster
as a mayor. He ran his city into the ground,

(34:46):
and he's a disaster now. He's just got a good line.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Of And speaking of the FAA, Vice President jd Vance,
who likewise made an appearance at the podium, debunked the
new talking points at the leftist trying to push, which
is that Trump streamlining the government affected the TSA, which
they say then caused the crash. And that's laughable on
its face for a number of reasons, including the fact
that the TSA does not oversee the actual flying or

(35:11):
maintenance of planes, but the FAA, which does do that,
has long been captured by the left with DEI. Here
is Vans explaining.

Speaker 10 (35:20):
When you don't have the best standards in who you're hiring,
it means on the one hand, you're not getting the
best people in government, but on the other hand, it
puts stresses on the people who are already there. And
I think that is a core part of what President
Trump is going to bring and has already brought to
Washington d C. Is we want to hire the best
people because we want the best people at air traffic control,

(35:41):
and we want to make sure we have enough people
at air traft control who are actually competent to do
the job. If you go back to just some of
the headlines over the past ten years, you have many
hundreds of people suing the government because they would like
to be air traft controllers, but they were turned away
because of the color of their skin. That policy ends
under Donald Trump's leadership, because safety is the first priority

(36:01):
of our aviation industry.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Joining us now to discuss as a retired US Marine
Corps Colonel William Dunn, the president of Strategic Resilience Group
'll see William, thanks for being back tonight.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Hey, thanks for having me. How you doing today?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I'm great? So is it reassuring to see our heads
of state actively being involved with the crisis from the
beginning onlike what we saw with the prior administration.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
It is this is a tragedy for all Americans today.
We lost some fellow Americans for probably what we're going
to determine was an avoidable mishap. And to see our leadership,
you know, first on the ground to get there in
supporting is a wonderful thing. It's not what we saw
for the last four years. And you know, I don't

(36:47):
know what the cause of this mishap is yet. I'm
hoping it had nothing to do with some of the
policies they had, but we will certainly find out.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
In the near future.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Now exactly right on that one, and it's hard to speculate,
but of course, given you your background in the military
at such a high rank, talk to us about these
these training type exercises. I know, the White House is
only I think three miles away. You have the Potomac River,
you have DCA right there, very tightly controlled. Is what
I hear from is the aerospace that these helicopters they

(37:20):
fly with an upper limit. They can't go over one
or two hundred feet, depending on the type of aircraft,
who's flying it, and what their exact training mission is.
And also I believe if I'm a mistake and air
traffic control had spoken to the helicopter, they had made
they had eye contact on the descending American Airlines plane,

(37:40):
and yet somehow this accident still happened. So can you
just talk to us about the layout, about how these
these military training operations, how they work, what exactly is
going on around this airport, and any of those mistakes
I guess that could lead up to an accident like this.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
So I've flown the.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Low level route around Washington, d C Before in a
Marine Cobra helicopter, was you know, obviously several years ago.
It's very specific, it's very tightly controlled. Our limit was
one hundred feet above the ground. We had to stay
one hundred feet or below, and everywhere we went we
were in full contact with air traffic controllers. One of
the things that's jumping out at me at this mishap

(38:25):
is there's more than one airplane in the area. So
when air traffic controller tells the pilot to see an
aircraft it is possible that he saw a different aircraft.
He may not have seen the aircraft at all that
they impacted. It seems they didn't see it, but they
reported apparently that they did see it.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
They may have been looking at a different aircraft. Aviation
requires very very specific terminology. Like you never say there's
a bird, you know, sometimes they call it an aircraft
a bird. Well, in the Marine Corps, we don't.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
A bird is a bird, And if you say there's
an aircraft, a cobra or a fifty three, you call
out the type aircraft when you see it, when you're
responding to your wingman or when you're responding to your copilot.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I don't know if that's what happened here. They may
have seen an airplane, but it may not have been
the one that they actually collided with.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
And that's what at this point, obviously, like you said, NTSB,
the FADOD everyone right, all hands on deck, everyone's looking
at this investigations every which way. One thing I think
we can rest easy with with the current administration is
I think we will be getting answers as soon as possible,
and they will be straightforward answers, and if there needs
to be any changes with the way training happens or

(39:42):
the way the airport conducts itself, those changes will be made.
And you know, we saw all sorts of incidents under
Biden and things got very obscured, very fast. No one
knew what was going on, and then they kind of
got left in the dust. I'm thinking of the bridge
collapsed right that we saw in Maryland with the big
cargo ship. Still a lot of unans questions with that,
obviously East Palestine with the trail with the train derailment.

(40:05):
But I think with this, at least as horrific as
this tragedy is, it can spur perhaps the changes that
are necessary to prevent it from happening again. Though I
also do want to ask you we heard Vice President JD.
Van's talking about DEI and how that's put a huge
strain on air traffic control. That something the New York
Times and others have talked about. They didn't talk about, obviously,

(40:25):
the DEI aspect. They talked about air traffic control not
having enough viable and qualified candidates to you know, to
communicate with planes, to understand the equipment that they're working with,
and to understand basically everything that goes into such a position.
And so the current air traffic control operators that we
currently have a lot of them, are working very very

(40:46):
long hours. They're over stressed, they need it. Oftentimes, are
being called in on their weekends, on their vacations, they're
being called back into work because they don't have the manpower.
And obviously you don't want someone who's half asleep right
trying to take stimulants to stay up, you know, directing
your plane. You want someone who's fully refreshed, they have
their time off, they can come back into work, you know,
completely alert. So when it comes to the DEI aspect,

(41:10):
whether or not that has anything to do with what
that tragedy, with the tragedy we saw last night, do
you think it's something that we just we need to
get rid of entirely and go back to meritocracy, and
when it comes to air traffic control, but also when
it comes to the military itself, we need to.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Not have DEI for anything.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
DEI is by its nature discrimination, it's racist, and it's discriminatory.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
And it is you know, I get enraged if you will.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I'm almost enraged right now thinking that if DEI had
anything to do.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
With this, and I'm not saying it is, and I'm
not implying.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
That it did, but if it did, every American, every American,
should be outraged. You would not have you would not
allow the second or third or fifth best surgeon to
operate on in your love the one on based on
their gender, their race, or their ideology.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
You would only want the best.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
And to think, you know, and you know I'm speculating here,
but to think that we had an opportunity to have
higher qualified air traffic controllers on staff and we chose
not to because of discrimination, that should outrage everybody. If
that becomes the case, and I do pray that it
had nothing to do with it, but if it does

(42:26):
become the case, then think what that has done across
our entire country for the last four years. And nobody
should be elevated above someone else who is better based on.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Anything but meritocracy. Period.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, I'm right there with you on the frustration and
the anger when it comes to air traffic control. Like
I was mentioning a moment ago, talking about a lot
of whistleblower We're saying how they're overworked and overstressed, they
don't have the manpower. Something I talked about maybe a
year or two ago on the show, and again kind
of like what Vice President jad Vance was talking as
if they could increase those staffing levels, but then their

(43:08):
racial quotas would be off, and they think that doesn't
look too good, especially you know when the government, you know,
being a government agency and having the FAA swooping rat
it caused a lot of issues. And so like I'm
with you as well, hoping and praying it didn't have
anything to do with this specific case, but there is
that probability, and again we can rest assured that the
Trump administration will at the very least be able to

(43:29):
look and take a very close look at that aspect.
But Colonel, if I may still call you that, thank
you so much for making time for us tonight.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yes, ma'am, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
And I just want to say that my heart and
prayers go out to the families of the and the
loved ones and the folks that perished in this terrible tragedy,
and I just I'm praying for him and hope they'll
get through this somehow, and I know it won't be easy.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I second that, God bless and coming up next, gold
Bar Bob Menendez, the sentenced to eleven years in prison
for his brazen corrupt forcing him to admit that Trump
was right. I'll explain more when we come back in two.

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Speaker 1 (44:36):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
Mind how the tables have turned? The New York Post
always quick with the quip, is calling it a gold
mine of hypocrisy. Former Democrat New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez
went from voting to impeach President Trump twice and impuning
his character as being that of a Russian agent, to
now saying that Trump was right about everything. Because political

(44:58):
witch hunts do exist, especially what Menendas calls the Wild
West of political prosecutions in the Southern District of New York.
Here he is making that case in front of a
federal courthouse in Manhattan yesterday after getting sentenced to eleven
years in prison.

Speaker 11 (45:13):
Welcome to the Southern District of New York. The Wild
West of political prosecutions. President Trump is right. This process
is political and it's corrupted to the cliff. I hope
President Trump cleans up the cesspool and restores the integrity
to the system.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Are you are you going to ask you're taking a
part in center men as you just heard those reporters ask.
There is rumor that the former Democrat senator may be

(45:53):
angling for a pardon from President Trump. Though I wonder
if the left had been successful in their lawfare against
President Trump, if would have been as magnanimous and would
have come to his aid in any way. Now, I
don't know the guy personally, but I doubt it. Like
the New York Post said about the gold mine of hypocrisy,
Menendez was found guilty of taking bribes, partially in the
form of gold bars, from foreign countries like Egypt, to

(46:15):
do their bidding from within the US government, especially from
his former perch as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
all while it's using President Trump of being guilty of
that exact same thing with Russia. But after years of investigation,
only evidence was found against Menendez and not against Trump.
The left sure does like to project and joining us

(46:35):
now to discuss as Alex Sadan, a GOP political strategist
and a former New Jersey candidate for the US Senate. Alex,
thanks for being back tonight.

Speaker 12 (46:44):
Absolutely, thank you, Kara, and welcome to New Jersey, where
corruption and hypocrisy are always.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
On full display.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
I mean, I would laugh if it wasn't so serious,
but it is quite funny, right. But do you think
eleven years fits the crime on this.

Speaker 12 (46:57):
In fact, I think it might be a little too soft.
In this particular crime. Bob Menendez was convicted of blatant corruption,
enriching himself and his wife to benefit countries who are
not friends of the United States of America Katar in Egypt.
The Senator has every right to appeal this case, and
there are some issues that we can talk about that
are question marks behind the senator's conviction. But Bob Menendez

(47:21):
has always claimed that he stood tall, that he's fought
the good fight, that he's battled bosses and stood up
to dictators. And there he was yesterday, a simpering, crying weakling,
desperately asking President Trump for a pardon.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Sad to see, Kara, it really is. And I mean,
this man was so powerful in DC, and it's hard
to imagine that he had no clue what was going on,
right that, Wow, these foreign dictators and others, they all
just like giving him money and for absolutely no reason
at all. Right, So it's hard to kind of play
the naive card at this point. But as you talked about,
he's he has eleven years. His lawyer wanted less than

(47:58):
ten so that he would see out of a maximum
security prison. I think he's supposed to report in June.
But as you also mentioned, he is trying to appeal.
Do you think the appeals process may work out for
him in any way?

Speaker 12 (48:12):
Well, I think, first of all, that it's pretty normal
in cases like this that defendants remain free as their
appeals are being taken up by higher courts. So I
think that if the higher courts do decide to take
a look at this case, he'll stay free pending those appeals.
The goal is probably for Menendez's team to get this
to the Supreme Court, because I will give the Senator this,

(48:35):
there is the constitutional clause about speech and debate, saying
that the speech and debate of members of the US
Congress is protected as constitutional. That was an issue that
came up in the trial, but was not fully explored
because of some rulings by the judge. That's a question
that the Supreme Court could definitely rule on, and I

(48:56):
don't know which.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Way they would go on that.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I know the judge in this case was you know,
quite open and saying that you know, Senator Bob Menendez,
that you were corrupt, that you've become corrupted. He was.
He kind of really honed in on on that one.
But again going back to what I was saying earlier,
it's hard to say with Menendez now trying to play
more of the naive crin like you said, we did
see him crying, and I have to say, I know
I've never been a fan of the man's politics, right,

(49:20):
but I guess maybe that's just the woman's side of me.
It just it makes me sad to see. I hate
seeing anyone like that. But also I think back to
how what he said about President Trump. He said the
exact same things. And I think if it was President
Trump who wasn't back in the White House but was
instead facing time behind bars, and if Menendez was the
one free as a bird in DC, I don't know.
I don't think Democrats would be quite so magnanimous. But

(49:42):
you know you have a lot of insight into this case,
right because you've interviewed Menendez, but you've also run against him,
So does that give you some unique insight perhaps into
his how he operates, how he operates in New Jersey,
and basically to this case as a whole.

Speaker 12 (49:57):
Yes, I mean, Kara, your emotion is not miss laced
the way I look at it as this is a
terrible waste of intellect and talent. Senator Menendez intellectually is
absolutely no doubt about it. A brilliant man and Senator
Menendez could have used those talents in the United States
Senate to make the world more peaceful and the United

(50:19):
States more prosperous. And instead he decided that he was
the one who should prosper, that his family is the
one who should prosper. I will also point out that
Bob Menendez was not just feared in Washington. Bob Menendez
was feared in New Jersey. He was feared by members
of his own party who caved and did not stand

(50:39):
up to him after his trial. His first trial in
twenty seventeen ended in a hung jury. I'm not saying
they deserve any gold medals or Blue ribbons but it's
clear that the man had power, and the man was
willing to exact revenge if need be. He is a
powerful man that has been toppled by his own greed
and his own hubris. That is true, but I don't

(51:01):
think it necessarily requires our sympathy.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
No, I think you're exactly right on that one, and
I think there's a lot of lessons to be learned, right,
especially when it comes to power and how it can
corrupt absolutely when it's absolute power, and you know, acting
in such a way like you said, it doesn't win
you any friends, especially in the end, and then it
leaves you high and dry. I know several of his
buddies in this ring have gone down for seven or
eight years. I know his wife. Now her trial is

(51:23):
going to be starting, I think in March, So perhaps
we'll have you back on for that one and see
how that turns out. But Alex, thanks for joining us tonight.
We're out of time.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
And when we come back, a lot of the results
of our last tipping point poll where we ask do
you support sending illegal immigrants to guantanamobay, you won't want
to miss it.

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Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host Kara McKinney.
It's now time to reveal the results of our last
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illegal immigrants to Guantanamo Bay. Ninety four percent of you
said yes, whereas only six percent of you said no,
and we might as well put it into use right
after Biden spent his last few days in office emptying
it of former Osama bin laden bodyguards. Anyway, tonight we

(52:36):
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