DOGE Uncovers Federal Agencies Behind Trump's 2019 Impeachment

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm your host, Karen McKinney, and this is tipping point.
We're both USAID and the CIA potentially involved with the

(00:21):
impeachment of President Trump for asking the right questions over
Ukraine all the way back in the year twenty nineteen.
While the Senate later acquitted Trump of those charges, it's
still worth asking the question the financial networks being uncovered
by DOGE or what is allowing for these connections to
now be made so. A friend of the show, Michael
Schellenberger and his co author Alex Gutinhogg are the first

(00:42):
to my knowledge to raise this point in a new
subseact piece. They argue, quote the House of Representatives impeached
President Donald Trump on December eighteenth, twenty nineteen, after a
White House whistleblower went public with evidence that Trump abused
his powers by withholding military at Ukraine in order to
dig up dirt on his rival Joe Biden. In the complaint,

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the whistleblower claimed to have heard from White House staff
that Trump had, on a phone call directed Ukrainian President
Voladimir Zelenski to work with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani
to investigate Joe Biden. And Hunter Biden. The whistleblower who
triggered the impeachment was a CIA analyst who was first
brought into the White House by the Obama administration. Reporting

(01:24):
by drop site News last year revealed that the CIA
analysts relied on reporting by a supposedly independent investigative news
organization called the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project OCCRP,
which appears to have effectively operated as an arm of
the United States Agency for International Development USAID, which President

(01:46):
Trump has just shut down. The CIA whistleblower complaint cited
a long report by OCCRP four times end quote now
that the background in context has been sent for you
and refreshed your minds on. The article goes on to
allege quote OCCRP does not operate like a normal investigative
journalism organization in that its goals appeared to include interfering

(02:07):
in foreign political matters, including elections aimed at regime change.
Drew Sullivan, the co founder and head of OCCRP, told
German television broadcaster NDR, that his organization had probably been
responsible for five or six countries changing over from one
government to another government and getting prime ministers indicted or

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thrown out as such, it appears that CIA, USAID, and
OCCRP were all involved in the impeachment of President Trump
in way similar to the regime change operations that all
three organizations engage in abroad. The difference is that it
is highly illegal and even treason is for CIA, USAID
and its contractors and intermediaries known as cutouts to interfere

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in US politics this way, they write end quote. Now
for the legal record, I will note here that OCCRP
denies all these allegations being made by Shellon, Burr and Bias.
Co author joining US now to discuss as investigative journalist
Laura Logan. Laura, thanks for being back tonight. Thank you
for having me, Grace. So what do you make of
this possibility that perhaps CIA and USAID were potentially involved

(03:14):
with the impeachment we saw against Trump back during his
first term.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I don't think there's any question about it. I mean,
this would not be coming out now if there were
any doubt, and you know, I would point everyone back
to John Solomon's reporting at the time. John Solomon was
the one who revealed a lot of the inner workings
of this deal in Ukraine, where what you had was
the open Society Foundation, which is run by George Soros.

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You had them running meetings inside the US Embassy in Ukraine.
And remember that horrible woman, Maria Yovanovitch, right, she was
the ambassador to Ukraine under Obama, and when Trump came in,
it was reported that she was busy telling officials in
the Ukraine, don't pay any attention to Donald Trump. He's
not really a charge, right, He's not the real president.

(04:03):
And then what did you see happen after that? Well,
John Salomon extensively exposed this corruption. He showed how you
had an NGO that was running US policy, using it
through the US embassy. They were supplying lists to the
US embassy, telling them who they could should investigate, who
they shouldn't investigate, telling them who they would tell the
Ukrainian leaders that you're not allowed to, you know, investigate

(04:26):
this one, You're not allowed to investigate that one. And
so they were effectively, you know, dictating US policy. And then,
don't forget you had Joe Biden, you know, going on
camera at a think tank in Washington, d C. Telling
everyone that he was you know, that he had told
the Ukrainian leader leaders at the time, the prosecutor you know,
you're not allowed to investigate Barisma right, which of course

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was where Hunter Biden was on the board and everybody
cried foul. I can tell you I met with Rudy
Giuliani at that time. I talked to Rudie personally about this.
I know John Solomon very well. I interviewed him about this.
But also I had, you know, dozens and dozens of
coals of John. And it was so frustrating watching Ukraine
impeachment happen because the Obama administration, you know, had run

(05:13):
all these you know, anti corruption workshops, bringing people from
Ukraine to the White House. I mean, they didn't do
this kind of thing for any other country, and there's
corruption all over the world, so there was so many
questions about what had happened. And then when you know,
when you have John Biden on camera basically admitting to
breaking the law, you think it's a slam dune. You think, okay,
when this comes out, people are going to be horrified.

(05:35):
But no, what did you see happen? You had a
CIA deception operation that was designed to cover up what
had happened, and it used a tactic of information warfare,
which is known as projection which I think, you know, American,
the American people recognized tactic at this point.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
What is it.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's when you project onto your adversary exactly what you
are doing so your own behay. And this was classic.
So here is Joe Biden, you know, basically bribing Ukrainian
officials for his own self interest and for that of
his family and his son. And what do they do.
They accused Donald Trump of doing exactly that, and they

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use it as the basis for the impeachment. And you know,
I just want to say, I've known for years that USAID,
which is the Agency of International Development, right, US Agency
of International Development, it's not the us AID agency, which
is how it's sort of interpreted. I knew that they
are affront for the CIA. I can you know, spoken

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to dozens of people about that. And what they've effectively
been doing is using USAID as an agent of regime
change and interference in foreign governments and countries, which was
confirmed by the President of ol Salvador Bakeley, and just
recently when he said, you know, we don't want to
take aid from USAID because we know that it's not

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really going to the people they say it's going to
and then you find you know, I made it a
speech in the Senate when I testified before Ron Johnson's committee,
when I talked about exactly this, about how you have
these massive cutouts and these huge omnibus bills, right that
are all designed for this kind of thing, where USAID

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and these ntos that they work with, which are really
a network of affinity groups that share a radical Marxist
progressive ideology, globalist ideology, and they've been establishing loyalty networks
across the world through these organizations. So why else does
the you know, the Animal Rights Federation have offices in

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sixty seventy countries across the world. Why does BLM the
moment they you know, they get all that money after
George Floyd's death, why does BLM suddenly acquire a BLM
global network and why is that run by let's see
the Tides Foundation, which is another one, And this is
you know why, because they're laundering money, right, they have

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a global agenda to affect change all over the world.
They're using an old Marxist tactic of using race as
a fisher or an opening in society that can be
exploited to create division and also as a cover for
their real actions, and they are laundering the money to
all of their network of affinity groups that scratch each

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other's backs. And they all have a global component to
them because they have a globalist ideology and all of this.
You know, what makes me so mad about it is
that they are stealing from the American people. They're stealing
from taxpayers. They have figured out how to enslave all

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of us so that people you know, who are working
one or two jobs today, they can't afford that cute
little house with the white picket fence and the two
cars in the garage and food on the table, and
you know, a vacation once a year. And I'm pretty
tired of hearing the American people mocked and disregarded and
dismissed by the political elites. You know, when I was

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at sixty minutes for all those years and the chief
barm correspondent with CBS News, and I worked at ABC News,
I worked at NBC News, I worked pretty much all
over and I remember, you know, people talking about how Americans,
you know, only this percentage of Americans owned a passport. Well,
when you can't afford to travel from Texas to California

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on vacation. Why would you need a passport?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Exactly? And that's the thing is, like you were saying,
with these agencies, right, they take our tax, taxpayer dollars
and they use it to fund their global, wide ranging
left wing patronage network essentially. Right. And then like you said,
then they thumb your nose. They thumb their noses at
us while they do it. So FEMA, for example, right
last year, massive storm was hit on the eastern side

(10:01):
of the nation. People lose their house, they lose everything,
they don't have water, they don't have food supplies, they're
just left completely on their own. And what did we hear?
There were female superiors who were telling their officials saying, well,
when you go door to door and you're helping out,
if you see a Trump flag anywhere, avoid the house. Right.
So that's exactly what you're getting back to. And I
really like how you talk about projection. If you ever

(10:21):
want to know what the left is up to currently,
just see what line of attack they're using against us.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So I started up.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I started off by quoting Shallenberger earlier and when he
was giving that refresher on the first Ukraine impeachment, the
first sham impeachment, and they were accusing President Trump of
what abusive powers, that he was using the government right
to investigate illegally his opponent to rig the twenty twenty election.
And then wait a second, that's true, but not Trump.
Trump's not the one guilty of all that. That was
Democrats the entire time. But like you said, when everyone's

(10:50):
all looking at Trump, oh, he's abusing his powers, he's
trying to rig the election. He's using foreigners to do
a Ukraine Russia doesn't matter. Well, then no one thinks.
Maybe the Democrats are the ones actually doing it right
with a Russia Gate, actually paying a foreign x spy
all this money to interfere in our elections. They were
the ones actually working with some Russians to pump disinformation
into our country to again rig twenty sixteen, twenty twenty,

(11:12):
and they failed in twenty twenty four with their lawfare.
But time and time again, that's what they're doing. So
I'm very glad that you point that out. Now, going
back to Schellenberger's piece for a moment to tie some
things together, he and his co author write that in
a twenty twenty four documentary that German television broadcaster NDR
made about occrp's dependence on US government. They say a

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USAID official confirmed that USAID approves occrp's annual work plan
and approves new hires of key personnel. And so again
going back to some of the reporting and their grip
on so called journalists, and especially when it comes to Ukraine.
So President Trump all those years ago, I mean, he
poked the hornet's nest for real when he talked about Ukraine.

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Because look how Ukraine has popped up everywhere, not just
that first impeachment, but the war right between Russia and Ukraine.
Even when it came to COVID, we were learning about
biolab weapons in Ukraine. I mean, it seems like that
is the next It's because so many of these these
alphabet soup agencies that we have, these spy agencies, it
seems like Ukraine has really been their little their little

(12:17):
lab right where they've been perfecting a lot of their playground.
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I'm glad, I'm glad you raised this. Actually, this
is this is very significant. First of all, going back
to Michael Schellenberger, I first noticed Michael Schellenberger's reporting when
he was reporting on climate, and because climate has emerged
to be one of the most significant tools that they're
using to justify population control. When I found out that

(12:44):
that lunatic you know in the Riding administration was behind
the slaughter of all these chickens when there wasn't even
any h one n one, you know, they've orchestrated this
to attack the food supply, to go after you, you know,
another way to discredit people as conspiracy theorists if you
don't buy into it in spite of all the evidence
to the contrary. So climate is critical, and Michael Schellenberger

(13:05):
played a very important role for me because he was
a voice of real reason and accuracy and consistency in reporting.
And he's done the same thing here with this. There
isn't a journalist alive. If you call yourself a journalist
today and you're not outraged that the United States government
is that involved in journalism and media and the hiring

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of people, and if you're providing that money, how you're
controlling those narratives and influencing what's put out there, then
you don't deserve to call yourself a journalist because you're not,
You're pathetic and you are a propagandist. At this point,
we have a First Amendment for a reason. And you know,
it's funny that the very same people who scream about

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separation of church and states and don't want you to
say the Pedgillegiance in school because it's a violation of
the Constitution, these are the same people that have absolutely
no problem that the sacred duty of the United States press,
of the media in this country to be independent and
to be honest and to be free of government interference

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and influence, that that has been violated over and over
and over again. It goes back to Obama. Remember when
he was spying on AP You know, look at Charyl Atkinson,
my former colleague from CBSUS, for which I have the
greatest respect, one of the best journalists in this country,
hands down. I mean, Cheryl was the one who exposed

(14:35):
Eric Holder and the gun running into Mexico. We still
haven't had accountability for that, the Department of Justice running
guns into Mexico that got countless numbers of Mexican civilians killed,
but also Victor Avila shot and another US agent killed.
I mean, there's so much to unpack here and honestly

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credit to this administration for being the first ones that
are willing to take this on. And if you look
at Michael Schellenberger's reporting, it literally fits perfectly with John
Solomon's reporting at the time. And also, while we're talking
about it, okay, one of the most egregious things to
have happened over this time is what they've done to

(15:18):
Rudy Giuliani, because that man is an American hero. That
man was lionized and justifiably so, for rebuilding New York
City in the wake of nine to eleven.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know, they were falling at his feet. I've been
with Rudy, We've been out in New York. People fall
at his feet, okay. And that man had the courage
when no one else.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Wanted to represent Donald Trump as his lawyer. He was
fired by his own law firm the moment he did that,
and they've systematically gone after him because he was right
on the money about Ukraine. And you know what, you
are one hundred percent right about Ukraine. It has been
all these roads that lead to Ukraine. You know. One
of them is a woman called Alexandra Talupa right who

(16:04):
was working for the DNC. And look at what Alexandra
Talupa was doing. Look at her role in the whole
Russia Gates and Russia collusion thing. Look at the Ukrainian ambassador, right,
Ukraine's ambassador to the United States in twenty sixteen. Do
you remember he wrote that op ed where he basically
was saying, it's going to be Hillary Clinton or else.
So they were screaming from the rooftops about Donald Trump

(16:27):
is not presidentially changing the way that government has done.
This isn't how diplomacy works. But they had no problem
that the Ukrainian ambassador was the first person to break
with diplomatic protocol, which means that you never ever openly
interfere in the election of the host nation and you
never you know, campaigned for one candidate over another. But

(16:47):
everybody just ignored that. Oh, let's just ignore that, just
like we're going to ignore that you accused Donald Trump
of colluding with foreign intelligence service. But it turns out
that Hillary Clinton, his rival in the presidential election, was
the one who was paying for a fake a document,
the Steele DOCI, which was completely and utterly made up.

(17:08):
This was propaganda disinformation that was paid for by a
political rival in a presidential election. Oh, let's not worry
about that. Oh no, let's see, we're going to accuse
Donald Trump. What did John Brannon and James Capper and
all these profoundly, profoundly dishonest people have to say about it?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Trump is a Russians bouton is his handler, you know,
and all this stuff. How dare you, how dare you
get to you know, actually carry out a real seditious conspiracy.
This is not a made up conspiracy. This is not
the CIA slapping a label on you to discredit you.
This is a real conspiracy under US low eighteen US Code.

(17:48):
I think I believe it's Chapter two one five, Section
two three eight one. You can look it up Treason
and sedition and subversive activities. Here is a real subversive
tedition's conspiracy that is being carried out, not just against
Donald Trump, don't. I mean, people often make the mistake
of making this about Trump. When he said it's really

(18:11):
about you, the American people, and I'm just in the way,
that was absolutely true. But he is no longer on
his own in that fight. He is no longer standing
between them and the American people. He's got the American
people lining out to stand there with him this time around,
which is what is so critical. And you've got now

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strong voices in alternative media like Michael Schallenberger, like Matt Taibi,
like Sharyl Atkinson, like Sarah Carter, like John Solomon and
justin News, who in spite of their very best efforts,
they have been unable to silence these people. And you
want to know why because it's the truth, because they
were telling the truth all along. And you're not wrong

(18:53):
about the biolabs in Ukraine. Let me tell you. I
mean they created this fake cover story for that that
the Defense Intelligence Threat Reduction Agency DITRA, that under DITRA
they had to go in at the end of the
Cold War and they had to you know, turn these
labs into public health facilities, that these were bioweapons labs
run by the Soviets with it, you know what the
truth is. I spoke to scientists and other people who

(19:15):
worked in those labs or who studied them. You know,
those programs were so old and out of dates and
had fallen into disrepair in the Soviet Union that when
you know, the US took them over. What we did
is we had a public facing program where Ditro was
actually doing public health stuff. And then behind that, where
did you have Hunter Biden and Meta Biota And what

(19:37):
were they doing? Oh yeah, they were doing the bioengineering
and the biowarfare and chemical warfare and other things along
those lines. We don't know all the details bio weapons, sure,
we know about that. And they rarely expected that Vladimir
Putin was just going to sit there while they developed
this capability right on his doorstep and threatened him and

(20:00):
threatened him and rebuffed him and rebuffed him. And also
when Vladimir Putin he said no to the globalists, right,
And this brings me to this is one important point
I want to make to you. Why Ukraine? Why is
Ukraine the center of all of this? Apart from the
fact that we know that Ukraine is a massive money
laundering scheme, what else do we know about Ukraine? Well,

(20:21):
we know that it's one of the main centers of
child trafficking throughout the world. And I would not underestimate
the significance of that. I've been working on that for
some time and I can tell you I truly believe
and I hope to be the one to help bring
this truth to the world. That when people understand exactly
the significance of what they've been doing to children in
the Ukraine and across the world and in this country,

(20:44):
that it will change history. But it's not just that.
If you go back to the Second World War, there's
something very curious about Ukraine. A lot of people got
very upset when Vadimir Putin said one of the reasons
I invaded you was to get rid of the Nazis
once and for all. And you know, on the surface,
you look at that talking about you know, the Nazis

(21:07):
who were destroyed at the end of the Second World War,
and Putin is a dictator and a liar. You can't
believe what he says. And then of course they used
the outrage of the Holocaust. You know, over three hundred
thousand Ukrainian Jews was slaughtered during the Holocaust, and how
dare Putin, you know, dishonor the memory of them? Well,
not so fast, right, because actually, if you look a
little closer at Ukraine's Nazi problem, it's a very real problem.

(21:30):
And it didn't just start with Hitler invading Western Ukraine
and establishing the Western Ukraine as the headquarters of the
Nazi ess you know, that tells you some of that history.
But those Ukrainian Jews that were floorted by the Nazis,
those were Ukrainian Nazis who were doing who are right
there doing the killing right, who were involved in the

(21:52):
slaughter of that And what happened to them at the
end of the Second World War. Did they go to
Nuremberg and fased justice? No they did not, And why not?
Well because of a man called Alan Dalles who was
head of the CIA, who protected Upraine's Nazis from ever
seeing being held accountable for what they did. And if
you take a look, you follow that thread, follow the

(22:14):
Allan Dalles thread, look up Operation paper Clip, look up
the finest documents that are being declassified, and what you
find is that Alan Dallas and the CIA were only
two e year to bring all of these Nazi leaders
and Nazi programs to the United States, before the bodies
had even been buried in Auschwitz and bergen Belsen and

(22:34):
the concentration camps. They were protecting the people responsible. They
gave them safe passage. How did they move across the world.
The Red Cross who gave them passports, The Red Cross
who gave them safe cavn oh gee. One of the
people was John Carey's family, the Villa Carey in Austria,
you know, and help them get to Argentina and across
the world and come to the United States. And what

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did they do with the bioweapons programs that the Nazis
were doing was so evil? They continued that work at
Fort Dietrich, Maryland under the United States government. So when
you follow these threads, whether it's COVID and the biolabs
or whether it's the Nazis, because this has been a
big thing. Donald Trump's the Nazi really remember that talk
about projection? Who are the real Nazis? Who's covering for

(23:19):
the real Nazis? Who's arming the ASA Battalion? Who are
real Nazis in Ukraine? It's these people. So I would
urge people to take a very close look at that
history because a lot of roads do lead to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh, you're exactly right on that one. There's so much
we can get into. We ka talk here all night, Laura.
We appreciate you making time for us. Thanks for joining
us tonight.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm so glad that you're covering this. Thank you so
much for having me.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
On Andy coming up next to the London Science Museum
is a prime example of why global institutions are losing
so much credibility, as the museum is claiming that lego
blocks can be anti LGBT. I'll explain more when we
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Speaker 1 (24:31):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
Did you know that lego blocks can be anti LGBT?
Which is funny because as far as I remember, they've
made lake toys pretty gay. But I guess that's what
passes for science these days over the over at the
Science Museum of London, England. Woke headlines like this used
to be rife over here in the States until President

(24:51):
Trump was sworn into office, and now it all seems
like a very bad dream, but one that our English
cousins across the pond are still living. So apparently the
London Science the Museum is hosting a self guided tour
called Seeing Things Queerly. Here's how the museum's blog page
explains their bizarre and irrational phobia. Now of lego blocks,
they say, and I'm going to try and read this
without laughing, but they say, quote, the top of the

(25:12):
brick with sticking out pins is male, the bottom of
the brick with holes to receive the pins as female,
and the process of the two sides being put together
is called mating. This is an example of applying heteronormative
language to topics unrelated to gender, sex and reproduction. It
illustrates how heteronormativity, the idea that heterosexuality in the male
female gender binary or the norm and everything that falls

(25:35):
outside is unusual, shapes the way we speak about science, technology,
and the world in general. End quote. Turns out this
blog post has been up since twenty twenty two, but
was just caught by an eagle eyed observer over at
the Telegraph, leading to this current controversy. As bad as
all this is, it's even worse when it was forced them,
who are military turning our fighting men and women into

(25:56):
being the guinea pigs of a giant social experiment. President
Trump and Defense Secretary or already making major moves to
reverse all of that, and the numbers are bearing it out.
Army recruitment is hitting record highs, a complete one point
eight from the massive slump we saw during the Biden years.
Joining us now to discuss as author and US Army
veteran retired Captain Douglas Ernest. He is the author of

(26:18):
the Spirit of a True Patriot, The Inspiring Story of
Retired Captain Douglas j Ernest. Captain, thanks for being here tonight.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Hi Kara, thank you for having me on your show today.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Great to talk to us about this recruiting turnaround we're
experiencing under Trump. Last or December was the best December
they've seen in fifteen years for the Army. I think
it was three hundred and fifty soldiers they were recruiting
a day. But talk to us about.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
This, I it's mind blowing. I didn't think it was
even possible to get to this point where we're at today,
only two weeks after President Trump took the office. I
thought this would have taken years. I would never expect
the enthusiasm to be in our younger generation so high,
so quick that people would want to serve. You can
see the swift action by the Trump administration. They came

(27:04):
in and just wiped out DEI wiped out critical race theory,
writes out transgender serving in the military. That gave people
encouragement to join again. I have had multiple phone calls
from people, the people that I've served with, who've asked
me to talk to their children about serving in the military.
And that has come in the last two weeks. People
are asking me, Yeah, what do you think about the
Army College Fund, the Army bills right now, the GI

(27:26):
bill and so forth. People. The enthusiasm is just mind blowing.
I did not think this was possible. I assumed it
would take a year or two to fix the debacle
of the Biden administration. So this is a great day
for our country to see a fifteen year high. I
just can't explain to you what an accomplishment it is
for Pete Heigs from the Trump administration to move so quick,

(27:48):
so swift, and to get this job done so quickly.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, definitely, And of course you know you served your
nation honorably during your time in the army as a captain,
and as you see behind you, you're the successful owner
of a Corvette warehouse, a really amazing dealership out there.
So can you talk just about how you went from
serving in the military to what you do now.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Well, great question.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You know.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I joined the military back in nineteen ninety when I
was seventeen to get some college money and I didn't
have any parents that had resources to send me to college,
so I joined for the Armory College Fund and that
turned into twenty years of becoming a patriot and serving
in multiple theaters. Over the years I was in I
was granted the privilege to work with so many wonderful
leaders that taught me these skill sets, and I was

(28:32):
fortunate to come out and apply these skill sets to
the small entrepreneurial world to start a business and do
my dream, which is to play with these cars and
you know, and fix up cars, restore cars, and use
my skill sets of military training to transform that into
make ready of cars and bringing these cars back to
life and then having the largest Corvette dealership in the Southwest.

(28:53):
So for me, it was just an honor and a
privilege to serve in these skill sets. If it wasn't
for the military, I would have never learned the skill sets.
I wouldn't employ the ten people of the hundreds of
people that are in our outsourced resource partners that help
us get these cars ready every day. So for me,
I am encouraged that we're able to have our recruiting
go up so high because this is the backbone and

(29:14):
future of our country. These eighteen to forty year olds
that join the military, this is what is going to
propel our nation forward ten fifteen, twenty thirty years in
the future. And this is just I cannot tell you
the enthusiasm I've seen from the people that I work with,
from people that I've talked to, and from people that
I've served with in the military ten fifteen twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, you know, as you talk about your experience and
how your experience in the militaries directly helped you back
into the in the civilian world, ran, as you talk
about it helps so many others who've served as well,
to not just be the most lethal fighting force in
history while serving under arms, but also taking a lot
of those you know, being able to be in a
leadership position, understanding logistics, understanding how to talk to people,

(29:59):
how to interact with us. There's so much goes into it.
So when you were watching, especially under the Biden years,
what we saw under Obama and the like, How did
you feel looking and seeing something that you love so
much of the military being used as a giant social
experiment and completely being turned against its original founding mission.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
You couldn't have said it any better. I mean, it
was an experiment. It was like corporate America doing experiments
in you know, personnel and trying to see what would
work and what wouldn't work, and what we could do
to increase efficiency. Would diversity help, you know, increase the workforce,
increase productivity and prease efficiency. And it was just an experiment.
Was it was a disaster. You know. For a while

(30:38):
I was saddened. Then I was angry, And for years
I kept my mouth shut. I didn't speak about my
political views to anyone. I kept it to myself. You know,
I was a patriot inside. I had a flag in
the front of my home, but I didn't talk. And
there was a time a couple of years ago when
I just said enough's enough. When I wrote my book
and I said I'm going to speak my mind. I'm
sick of being the silent majority and not speaking out

(31:00):
about what's going on in the world. The Biden administration
used our military for an experiment, and they utterly destroyed
the morale of those that serve, those patriots that are
on the ground doing the hard work every day. Those people,
these seventeen to twenty year old women and men that
are out there in the dirt. You see that dirt
in the background of the book on the cover, out working.

(31:21):
Those are the people that get the job done. Not
the captain. It's not the major, not the generals in
the office, not those in Washington. They're in office. You know,
I've been fortunate as a captain. I was in an office.
I was rarely in the field anymore, but I was
commanding people that were So you have to understand, ninety
percent of the job is done by these eighteen to
twenty five year old kids. I call them because I'm

(31:43):
older now, but I was one of those kids, and
I worked hard, and I was taught by some of
the best leaders men and women over the time. I
served in the armor and infantry, and I served at
a brigade staff level. To be able to use those
skill sets to train one other things that gives a
thought to you, to let you you know, settling with
your listeners, I have gone to I got my MBA
and I got a master's degree. And I've been you know,

(32:06):
fortunate to serve in these in these capacity of school
where go to school with forty people and ten of
them are veterans, and all the veterans I come through,
we talk about, Oh, what the NBA did for your career.
Everyone you talked to said, yeah, an MBA was great.
But the best experience I had to make me a
leader at work, to make me a successful business person,
to make me a successful engineer was my basic training,

(32:27):
my art of my advanced infantry training, my skill sets
in aviation. All these skill sets you learned in the
military to be able to get along with people, learn
how to get things done, learn how to be on
a team. Those are skill sets that you can't learn
anywhere else. And today, with the Trump administration and the
changes of Secretary of Defense Pete hegset has made we

(32:48):
have an opportunity for our younger generation to learn those
skill sets instead of avoiding the military like they have
for the last four years. You know, down forty percent
on military recruiting. It's not been that bad since Vietnam.
The numbers were so bad. And you're talking two months
after the electoral win and you're talking two weeks after

(33:10):
the hegset and President Trump have taken command and you
have a fifteen year high. It's unfathomable. It's something I
didn't think was possible. And if you can think how
quickly we've turned around our country, imagine what's possible six months,
one year, and four years from now.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
And it wasn't a Kimberly Guilfoyle her famous rn C
speech right that the best is yet to come. And
I think we really feel that now, even feel it
so much the twenty twenty election obviously, but this election,
I think we're feeling it. Like you said, it seems
like the sky's the limit at this point. And I think,
you know, young people, they respond obviously to incentives. You know,
we saw what Biden offered, and it was a whole

(33:46):
lot of nothing. Right, is being told that they're all
evil and bad people, and you know, having to conform
to to realities that aren't real, you know, calling sirs
ma'am and ma'am sir, and all the craziness like we're
talking about here tonight. But also just the fact that
they many felt they'd be sent abroad to conflicts into
combat that they didn't think served or further the American
national interest, and now they feel they have a commander

(34:09):
in chief who actually has their back, will only send
them out when it's necessary to do combat and to
do other missions and operations that will directly directly protect
those that they love back at home. So there's a
lot of great stuff moving forward. And congrats on the book, Captain.
Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I appreciate. And one last thing, I just want your
viewers to understand. The Biden administration use these experimental programs
that after were counterproductive to our troops. They pitted people
against each other and they said, merit is no longer important.
Your hard work will no longer get you anywhere. It's
the color of your skin, or it's your cultural background

(34:47):
that destroyed the morale of our country. And I personally
would not have allowed my children to serve in that capacity. Today,
my thinking has changed and I would be proud to
send my children and to recommend them to join the military.
So if I feel like that after twenty two years
in the military, I know that the nation is turning
and the pendulum has turned, and wonderful things are ahead

(35:08):
for our nation. And God blessed Trump administration. God blessed
Secretary Events Pete Hegseth, and God bless our great nation
as we continue to move forward and propose propel ourselves
to further success.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Now, God bless you as well, sir, Thanks for joining
us tonight.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Thank you have a great weekend you as well.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
In coming up next, Why would Biden's FTC be working
with a shady Chinese company to undermine American business? Details
me come back into.

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Speaker 1 (36:01):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
The Biden administration was in bed with China even more
than we previously knew. We're now learning that the Federal
Trade Commissioner FTC, under its former chair Linda Khan, was
reportedly working with a Chinese company to help undercut an
American business and it's lawsuit against Amazon, accusing the online

(36:21):
retailing giant of anti competitive practices. The FTC under Khan
allegedly reached out to the Chinese online retailer Timu for assistance.
Now you all know that I'm no fan of the
progressive left wing rootless cosmos politanism encouraged by multinational companies
like Amazon. Let's say you get the mindset that it's
okay to sell out your fellow American and their national

(36:42):
inheritance if it makes you a quick book. And Amazon
wasn't afraid to take advantage of the sales tax free
nature of the early heyday of the Internet to undercut
traditional brick and mortar stores who couldn't compete, driving plenty
of mom and pop shops in the local communities they
supported into the ground. However, the only thing worse than
all of that is a foreign competitive doing it and
doing it and harming American business and our economy in

(37:04):
the process. It's truly crazy how the left at times
accepted the friendship of and at other times pressured woke
capitalists in Silicon Valley tech bros. Into carrying out parts
of the federal government's agenda that they couldn't legally do themselves.
But instead of rewarding their political friends, they unleashed legal
hell of them for the money, the power in the
political clouts and how many of them are either neutral

(37:24):
on President Trump or actively trying to court his favor.
A major turnaround from the vitriol they constantly spewed not
too long ago, joining us not to discuss exactly what
con was up to. Is Robert H. Burke Junior, son
of the great judge bearing the same name. He currently
serves as the president of the Antitrust Education Project. Robert,

(37:45):
thanks for being here tonight.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Thank you for having me great.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
So, how unseemly is it for an American regulatory Commission,
the FTC to be reaching out to a Chinese company,
a shady one at that, to undermine American business and
all the jobs that brings with here at home.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Not too surprising. You know, when regulators bring lawsuits against
American companies, they often talk to their competitors to say, well,
what do you know, what you got?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know what's the problem.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
But doing it to a company like Timu, a Chinese
company that basically takes advantage of our tax laws to
undercut its American competition, and also which uses it's been
proved uses slave labor, that's really unseemly. And I think

(38:37):
this was just another example of Lena Kon and the
Socialist FTC under Biden looking for any way to kneecap
a great American company. I know you have issues with
some of the things about Amazon and some of the
other big tech companies, but you got to say, it's
a great American success story that creates jobs and innovates

(38:59):
and creates best wealth for pension funds. And so I
just think going after going to a Chinese competitor, a
communist Chinese competitor at that, to undercut an American company
is just not right.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It's just not right at all.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
No, it's definitely not And I'm sure those who are
online and see the memes have probably seen videos of
you know, there's kids in China and they're you know, little,
and they've got their teachers and they're walking around, and
a lot of times the funny caption will be added saying,
you know, employees of TMU clocking in for the day,
and of course the joke is child labor, and the
joke is always with Timu and Shean and the like.

(39:37):
Is just a lot of exploitation that we see. And
of course the Chinese Communist government, the ability they have
when it comes to businesses within their borders, to dictate,
to take data, and to do a lot of things
that Hunya in America don't like. So just the fact
that the FTC former chair under Biden was reaching out
to them about an American business, I mean, just explain

(39:58):
some of the I guess you could say shady business
practices that have been alleged against Timu.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Absolutely. But the funny thing, of course is it's not funny,
but the joke is sort of on them now with
Donald Trump in place in the White House, he recently
issued an executive order that cut that what's the so
called Deminimus rule. He canceled the so called Deminimus rule

(40:25):
which gave them their tax advantage over American companies, and
that's gone now. So team's kind of scrambling trying to
figure out what to do, and and Shine is in
worse shape. So the President has, you know, as he's
done every day, ten times a day for the last

(40:46):
three weeks, has found a way to do something to
to decap our foreign competitors, our Chinese competitors. So that's
a good thing.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
That it isn't just a reversal from what we see
under Biden, where he was suing American companies left, right
and center. But what was the FTC under con What
was their end goal for Amazon? What did they want
with their lawsuit and investigation?

Speaker 6 (41:12):
Well, they allege that Amazon is has maintained an illegal
monopoly by using anti competitive practices. And they have a
long list of things that Amazon they claim Amazon did wrong.
Have I differ with some of those, and I think, frankly,
Amazon was always Leena Khan's white whale. You know, she

(41:34):
became famous when as a law student at the at
the Yale University, when my father used to teach years ago,
she wrote an article for the Law Review called the
Amazon Paradox, sort of playing off the title of my
father's book, The Anti Trust Paradox. And she she's been
after Amazon ever since. And this was her this was

(41:57):
her white whale at the FTC. And she won't be
there to see the case ultimately adjudicated. And I wouldn't
be surprised actually if the case starts to fall apart
and some of the counts get dropped and ultimately the
Trump administration lets them, you know, pay a fine or

(42:20):
negotiate a settlement, which is not at all.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
What Lena wanted to do.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
Lena wanted to break them up.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well, Robert, we really do appreciate you joining us to
break down the story. Thanks for dropping by tonight, Thank
you for having me. And coming up next, President Trump
lays out exactly what taxes he wants to slash. First
details when we come back in two.

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Speaker 1 (43:11):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
The January job's report proves to be the last nail
in the coffin for Biden's destructive time in office. The
Labor Department revealed in its new report today that only
one hundred and forty three thousand jobs were added last month,
down from the one hundred and seventy five thousand jobs
economists had been predicting. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt

(43:32):
issued this press release in response. It says, in part quote,
today's jobs report reveals the Biden economy was far worse
than anyone thought and underscores the necessity of President Trump's
pro growth policies. During his first weeks in office, President
Trump declared a National Energy Emergency to make America energy
dominant again, pledged to cut ten regulations for every new

(43:54):
regulatory action, and outlined a plan to deliver the largest
tax cut in his for hard working Americans. End quote.
And when it comes to those promised tax cuts, here's
what Lovitt had to say yesterday. Watch.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
These are the tax priorities of the Trump administration that
the President has laid out for members in that meeting today.
No tax on tips, which is obviously a very public
campaign promise that the President made. No tax on seniors
social Security, No tax on overtime pay. Renewing President Trump's
twenty seventeen middle class tax cuts. Again, these are the

(44:28):
President's priorities.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
Adjusting the salt cap, eliminate all the special tax breaks
for billionaire sports team owners, close the carried interest tax
deduction loophole, tax cuts for made in America products. This
will be the largest tax cut in history for middle class,
working Americans. The President is committed to working with Congress
to get this done.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
And joining us now to discuss is Stephen Moore, a
former Senior economic advisor for President Trump, Stephen, thanks for
bringing back tonight.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
Keret, thanks so much for having me, Grace.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
So, what do you make of Trump tax cut plan
as we just heard.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
Well, it's enormously important to the whole country, our economy,
our businesses, our families that we make the Trump tax
cuts permanent. Now I'm a little biased because I helped
write the original tax plan in twenty seventeen with Larry
Kudlow and others, But in every aspect it's been a
huge success for the American economy. We saw the American
economy boom, we saw families save a lot of money

(45:27):
on their taxes.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
We help the small businesses.

Speaker 10 (45:30):
So I want to make sure that all of your
viewers understand that if Congress fails to act this year
and make the Trump tax cuts permanent as well as
the you know, doing the no tax on tips and
no tax on overtime, that families will face a huge
tax increases in two thousand and twenty six.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
That's something that nobody wants to see.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
No, you're exactly right. I remember when they first went
into effect a couple of years ago, and I guess
definitely a big thank you to you because I saw
as being a middle class person myself, I saw some
of those gains in my own pocket, and I was very,
very thankful for them. That's why I was so strange
in the lead up to the twenty twenty four election
to see Democrats running against the tax cuts. I mean,

(46:14):
just imagine how brazen that is, saying if you vote
for us, we're not going to vote to extend the
tax cuts. It's bizarre, right, but that's what they were
running on. So what's the argument against extending President Trump's
tax cuts? Like you said, they're gonna be those in
Congress who are going to try and hold out against it.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
Well, first of all, I agree with you. I mean,
I think it's so remarkable. You know, Democrats lost everything
in the election this past November. They lost the House,
they lost the Senate, they lost the White House, they
lost at the state level, and their first message out
of the gate is, you know, put us back in power,
We're going to raise your taxes. That doesn't make a
lot of sense to me, but that's exactly what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Now.

Speaker 10 (46:53):
The other thing they're saying was this is just a
big tax cut for the rich. But first of all,
as I just explained, Ridge family saved three thousand dollars
a year on their taxes, and the average family isn't rich.
And the other thing that's so fallacious about that is
if you look at the percentage of taxes paid by
the rich after we did the Trump tax cut, that
percentage went up, it didn't go down. So I think

(47:16):
most of the arguments are pretty bogus. I think one
of the American people are solidly in support of making
these tax cuts permanent.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
And I don't think it's actually going to cost.

Speaker 10 (47:26):
Much revenue because we're going to grow the economy faster
and when you get more economic growth, you get more
tax revenues in that you do.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
And of course that was the thing I believe right
with President Trump cutting taxes in his first term in office,
is actually the revenues for the federal government actually increased.
So you're exactly right on that one that your individual
tax brit in decreased, but overall there was actually more
money to pay off debts and to be used to
reinvest in America. Obviously things changed under Biden, but that's
what we're getting back to now. Also, the January jobs

(47:56):
report was released today. What are some of your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
It was mediocre.

Speaker 10 (48:03):
You know, it was not a lot of jobs created.
But the truth is there are jobs out there right
now for people who are looking for work. I'm concerned
about the fact that the average American lost income in
real terms when Biden was president, and so what we
want to see in the months ahead, and I think
you'll see it right away under Trump, because remember this

(48:24):
was the last report under Biden. But we've turned a
page and I think we're going to see a real
strong recovery right away.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
I've never seen a president like this before my life.

Speaker 10 (48:35):
But you know, in just the first three weeks of
his presidency, he's done more to rebuild the economy than
Biden or other presidents usually do in four years in office.
So it's an exciting time for the country. I'm so
glad we're putting biden domics behind us. And incidentally, if
you look at the last year, the single fastest growth
area of the economy in terms of jobs was the

(48:59):
government sector. So we had the government piling up additional
you know, employment, and the private.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
Sector was largely having.

Speaker 10 (49:08):
To reduce its hiring. And that's not what we wanted
to see, we want to see private sector growth in
the government to shrink.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I know, President Trump he's battling right now the courts
on the federal freezes, right on the buyouts, trying to
have a lot of these employees leave and self kind
of deport from from DC, so trying to save money
there on not having so many on payroll. Obviously, with DOSEE,
they are coming up with all sorts of fraudulent waste
and then hopefully being able to trim down on that. Again,

(49:37):
there's gonna be a whole court's issue that goes along
with this. It's the Democrats aren't going to go down
easy on their funding network. But do you think with
some of these tactics that in addition to unleashing American
energy and trying to rectify trade and balances across the globe,
that these are some of the pieces that will lead
to that economic prosperity you envision for the next four years.

Speaker 10 (49:58):
Yeah, I think, you know, I think it may take
a little while for these new policies to take hold.
And I want to make sure that your viewers understand
that the big issue for Donald Trump is trying to
rebuild an economy that has been in big trouble under Biden.
We saw huge increases in the debt, We saw the
deffs that go through the roof. We saw a lot

(50:19):
of Americans lose income when Biden was present. So I
think it'll take three to six months for Trump's policies
to take root. But when they do, I think we're
going to have an incredible prosperity. I think we're going
to put Americans back to work. I think they're going
to get big pay raises. I think we're produced record
amounts of energy, and Americans are going to get the
tax cut. So the future looks very positive for the

(50:42):
American economy.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Then it doesn't that warning. Like you said, it's good
to keep in mind that it's going to take some
time to get through the Biden slumpy put us into
but we will come out of it. Steven, thanks for
joining us tonight. When we come back, I launched my
new book recommendation segment tying in History with Politics and
Fullhilosophy and many other disciplines depending on the book. You
won't want to miss it.

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Speaker 1 (51:32):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
We're revamping this last part of the show each night
to be a book recommendation from me. So first up,
we have End of Woman, How Smashing the Patriarchy Has
Destroyed Us by Catholic wife, mother, and philosopher Carrie Gress.
I've not read this particular book yet, but it's one
that I want to get to. After I caught Gress's
recent appearance on The Pines with a Quiness podcast hosted

(51:54):
by Matt Frad, this part really stood out to me.

Speaker 11 (51:56):
Listen, street Ways, the feminism is a method, and my
husband actually came up with a really great way to
understand it, which I had never thought about before. It always,
it always struggled with why are there always these three
things together? It's always the occult, it's always free love,
and it's always smashed the patriarchy through like since almost

(52:16):
the very beginning. And he was helping me with a
talk and he's like, there's got to be an easier
way to remember this, and then he said the reality
is is it's each each of those things is attacking
one aspect of the Trinity. And as soon as he
said that, I was like, this is why it's all three.
You're attacking the patriarchy, which is the image of the Father.
You're attacking You're you're attacking the body or the temple,

(52:39):
Holy Spirit with the free love aspect. And then the
occult is the attack on the authority of Jesus Christ
and the.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
World and within them. All out of time for tonight.
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