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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm your host, Kara McKinney, and this is tipping point.
President Trump is boosting defense of the homeland. It's about
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time our taxpayer dollars are used to keep us safe
instead of spent on everyone else in the entire world. Now,
President Trump's latest executive order directs his new defense secretary
to create an iron dome akin to that of Israel's watch.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Stop directing our new Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseaith, who's
going to be great. By the way, thank you for
the support. Thank you very much for the support. You
really did support him great. I think he's going to
be a fantastic I know him very well. I think
he's going to be fantastic. He's what we need to
immediately begin the construction of a state of the iron
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dome missile defense shield, which we'll be able to protect Americans.
You know, we protect other countries, but we don't protect ourselves.
And when Ronald Reagan wanted to do it many years ago,
luckily we didn't. We didn't have the technology then it
was a concept, but we didn't. Now we have phenomenal technology.
You see that with Israel.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We're out of three hundred and nineteen rockets say, knockdown
just about every one of them. So I think the
United States is entitled to that, and everything will be
made right here in the USA one hundred percent now.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
According to The Daily Wire, the plan for the Iron
Dome must include these aspects quote. Defend to the United
States against ballistic, hypersonic advanced cruise missiles and other next
generation aerial attacks from peer near peer in rogue adversaries.
Acceleration of the deployment of the hypersonic and ballistic tracking
space sensor layer, and development and deployment of proliferated space
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based interceptors capable of boost face intercept end quote. There's
more to it, but that's the gist of it at
this point. And Trump has taken more than three hundred
executive actions, so it can be already to keep up
with at all. The man has already done more and
answered more questions even than Biden ever did in four
whole years. But that's to say that in addition to
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the Iron Dome, there's another executive order that friend of
the show, Todd Bensman of the Center for Immigration Studies
says isn't getting as much attention as it should. It's
titled protecting the United States from Foreign Terrorists and other
National Security and Public safety Threats. Bensman writes, quote, the
EO seems to encompass one unnoticed visa category, the potentially
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thousands of foreign college students on F one visas believed
to have demonstrated on behalf of the US Designated Terrorist
Organization hamas and for the group to commit genocide against Israel.
The EO would also seem to cover F one visa
applicants still abroad deemed inclined to join them. Although the
EO doesn't explicitly identify these demonstrators for targeting, its language
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surely allows for the Trump administration to open a front
that would, barring expected litigation, eventually seek visa revocations and
deportations of foreign students who can be identified as participating.
End quote, joining us now to discuss as Mark Recorring,
the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. Mark,
thanks for being here tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Glad to be here, Thanks for having me great.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So do you agree with your colleague here, Todd Bensman,
that the Executive Order Trump's sign seems to cover these
F one visa applicants or at least it could.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Sure, I always agree with Todd anyway, but yes, it
seems to be pretty clear that it's designed for the
problem that you see with foreign students supporting Hamas, even
though it's not just about that, because next year there
may be some other group of genocidal nutcases who hate
America who are on college campuses. So that's why it's
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written broadly, but clearly it would apply to a lot
of these PROHOMAS protesters. And see, the reason is that
it doesn't just say you can't be a terrorist. Well,
that's already the law. And it doesn't say that if
you're giving money or sending guns to terrorists you would
be excludable. That's already the case. It says if you're
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advocating on behalf of terrorist organizations or our hostile to
the culture and people and system of government of the
United States, you can be denied a visa or deported.
That's new, and that's very important.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That it is. And as Benzman stresses in the piece,
that you know, future litigation could hold up some of
this when it comes to these F one visa applicants
or holders. But I think the distinction or the delineation
to make is exactly what you're saying is not so
much politics, right, because I think they're going to try
and do the free speech grounds, which is funny because
foreign nationals are exactly covered by our Bill of Rights,
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our Constitution, our free speech first Amendment. However, they may
try and make the free speech argument, but I think
it fall short because we're not talking about politics necessarily,
though there is some overlap. It's more of the ideologies.
You're saying is we have a border, or at least
we didn't underbind, but we do have a border. Again,
we are reclaiming our borders, and we can be choosing
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on who we allow into our nation. And if you
are openly hostile to our country as is, if you
hate America, you hate the tenants of America, and you
at least vocally or outwardly support our declared enemies or adversaries,
we are under absolutely no obligation to let you into
our country. I think it's as simple as that, right,
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But they're going to try and spin into oh, censoring
free speech. And I thought you write, people on the
right love free speech these days, But those are two separate,
two separate arguments, right, they.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Should be the thing is that when the Cold War ended,
Barney Frank then a congressman. Of those of you who
followed politics will remember him, go change the law that
said your beliefs, statements, or associations, as long as they're
legal in the US for Americans, can't be grounds to
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keep you out of the United States. It's insane that
we even passed that the end of the Cold War.
I think they figured, you know, what harm could what
could go wrong, so it could be that the litigation
may be successful if they try this, I don't know,
which means that Congress needs to fix this problem as well.
You can't just do things through executive orders. As important
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as they are. Congress is supposed to be writing laws,
and they really need to fix this.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Too that they do. And I guess that's something that
Press and Trump will have to work with Republican leadership,
as you're saying in Congress, to address that root issue
so that this can move forward, because I think it
is so important, right, I mean, our politics already just
domestically with other Americans, those who identify as being on
the left and the far left. It's poisonous enough. We
don't need to be mass important people right on work,
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visa student visas and the like to come and work
in and well to to be a student in very
critical universities, working on all sorts of stuff, and then
getting pipeline into two top jobs and bringing along with
them very anti American ideology and ideals. That's something that
we just we don't need. We don't need more of it,
We don't need any of it really. But like you said,
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the litigation there, there could be an issue there. But
I do want to ask as well, just talking about immigration, Bradley,
President Trump's signing so many executive orders, doing so much,
it's enough to make your head spin. But I do
think it's interesting here that President Trump now with the
foreign aid and everything that he's starting to freeze. To
take a fine tooth comb through. One aspect though, is
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those NGOs. They've been the ones greasing this kids when
it comes to illegal immigration, right, So, moving aside from
the visas of the legal immigration, of the visa system,
looking at illegal immigration, NGOs have been one of the
biggest floors in our side throughout this entire process. So
do you think President Trump going after that money supplied
those networks will be one of the the biggest wrecking
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balls that he can take through this entire open border scheme.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, it can absolutely be because these non government groups,
and mind you, the UN and various UN groups are
funded by US, either wholly or in part, and whether
it's inside the country or even in Latin America where
they're moving illegal immigrants or potential illegal immigrants north, helping
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them move north. And you know the distinction you were
saying between the legal and illegal, it's not that clear
when you get to NGOs. Because some of the same
groups that are paid by the State Department to resettle refugees,
which is a legal thing. It may be a bad idea,
but it's lawful. Some of those same groups are doing
the kind of assistance to illegal immigrants too, and they're
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all being frozen. And in fact, refugee resettlement, which is
again is a legal thing, has been stopped for ninety
days until they relook at the whole thing, and they
may just shut it down and not restart it at all. So, yes,
cutting off the money is essential. There will always be
some money. You know, you've got Soros and folks like that,
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and you know, the Tides Foundation, some of these left
wing dark money groups they're going to fund some of this,
but they they're dwarfed. The amount of money, the resources
they have is dwarfed by the federal government. Federal government
cuts it off. You end up starving the beast that
you do.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I mean, it's so interesting right that you see reports
on there'll be some refugee resettlement group based out of Nebraska.
Let's say, right, I have a lot of family who
came from Nebraska, and you'll see large pockets of immigrants
and like you said, the exploitation of the illegal immigration
system once again waving the magic wand and now bringing
these people over quote unquote legally or at least it
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was such under Biden when those laws are really really
pulled very loose, And like you said, there's a lot
of money when it's the US federal grant system and
you see some random group in Nebraska bringing over everyone
from pick a country, and the people at the very
top are making huge, huge amounts of money, usually sometimes
even to a million, two three, four million dollars in
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a year, sitting on a fancy board doing a job
no one wants. No one wants them to be doing
this to their local towns and communities and the like,
but they're making money off of it, and like you
said that, well that's the heart of the beast right
there in so many ways. But also then looking at
the illegal immigration scheme that's been going on, the open borders,
it was very refreshing today to see the White House
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Press Secretary Caroline Levitt when some reporters were asking your questions, saying, well,
with Tom Homan and everything he's doing, are you sure
that all of these are criminal illegals? He said that
these are going to we're going after criminal illegal aliens first,
and how can you be sure that all of them
are criminal illegal aliens? And Levitt just said, well, by definition,
they're all criminal. Right. Criminal is only just an extra
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term that we use to someone who's broken even more laws.
But being here physically illegally is a crime. They've broken
that law. And then to stay and to work in
this nation necessarily means that other crimes will be committed.
Social security has to be stolen in large cases right
to be able to get work, so on and on
it goes. So is that nice to see from the
White House podium the Press secretary finally just calling a
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spade of spade?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Absolutely, you know, I mean, I always you get frustrated,
even with Republican administrations in the past with kind of
being mealy mouthed, and you know, Homan the borders are
has been clear his first priority is going to be
going after the worst of the worst. He calls it
worst first strategy. But he's also been clear, Look, if
we run across other illegal immigrants in the process of
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getting some guy, we're going to arrest them too. They're
not untouchable as they were under Biden. And in fact,
that's been his argument to sanctuary cities is that if
you guys are worried about ordinary illegals getting caught up
in these raids, then let us into your jails so
that when you arrest people and you're finished with them,
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whatever it is is guys selling drugs or beating his
wife or driving drunk, whatever it is, you just hand
them over to us. Whereas if we have to go
out into the neighborhoods to find people, we're gonna find
other illegal aliens too, and we're going to arrest them.
We're not just gonna let them go. So it was,
you know, it was, frankly a pretty powerful argument on
the part of Homan, but you know, Chicago, New York,
the rest of them, they're not interested. They couldn't care less,
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and they're not gonna let Ice do its job.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, and it kind of goes back even to what
we're talking about earlier with you know, students who were
protesting vocally on support of hamas. But there's also the
community element as well, because I remember even before Trump
assumed office, there were the Twilight days of Biden, when
you know, the excitement, the fervor and some of these
federal la enforcement agencies was finally, you know, we're gonna
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be able to do our jobs again. There were raids
a little bit north of me here in California, and
they specifically actually it was illegal aliens who were into
drug or human trafficking. It was very very you know, bad,
very bad crimes. Right, that's what these people were being
scooped up for. They were also illegal, so they were
being pulled out. Great, right, you'd say, well, that's amazing,
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But then there were protests of illegal aliens who were
there and saying, how dare you do these raids? And
how dare you a rest quote unquote are people and
the like? And I'm like, these people are all convicted
of very very serious crimes, and yet the rest of
the community members in those illegal alien communities were all
on board, ready to cover up for those crimes, ready
to explain them away, excuse them away, to say it's
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not as bad as it looks like, and these are
really our guys. Let them here. They just want a
bed or life as they're drug trafficking and human trafficking.
I mean that kind of shows right there, right like
to your point with Ice and the rest, when they
go in and there's other illegals in the same apartment
or apartment building, you gotta take all of them. Because
there's also the you know, the community aspect to some
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of this as well.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Sure, although you know, to be clear when you see
a protest like that, we saw something like that in
Dallas recently too, where there were people protesting on behalf
of illegal immigrants were blocking traffic. They were in the highway,
which frankly they should all be arrested for anyway. But
you know, that's like the noisiest element because you know,
getting a lot of folks in immigrant communities. Frankly, even
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the illegal aliens, they're not all that broken up about
some of these real dirt bags being removed from their
communities because who are they praying on. They're not going
into some suburb. I mean, some of them might be,
but generally they're victimizing the people who live in those communities. So, yes,
you're going to get a group, you know, some number
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of people coming out and waving signs down with ice
and all the rest of that stuff. But a lot
of people, frankly, a lot of them probably voted for Trump,
are happy to see these criminals removed from their own neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now, that's a good point. I think it was. Again,
you're calling Todd Bensman either last year or the year
before that. I think actually it was twenty twenty three. Right,
All these years just blend together. I've been doing the
show for so long. But remember, there was a horrific
murder in Texas of a family of five I believe right,
and everyone involved I believe were illegal since an illegal
alien settlement in Texas. I think the governor now has
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finally been going after it, but for a while it
was allowed to just kind of grow. I think they
had some inroads with some even Republican members of the
state legislature over there, and so this community had kind
of grown infested. And you're exactly right. It was, you know,
one illegal alien. I think he had that that weir
to whatever that death cold is, he had that some
of that imagery in his house, the iconography what His
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neighbor came over and said, hey, you know, it's like
eleven o'clock at night, you're shooting off your gun. You're
drunk off your rear end. Can you just kind of
quiet it down. We got a baby we're trying to
put to sleep. And he got very angry, goes over
to the house next door and just unfortunately just starts shooting.
And I believe at least five family members and I
think including children were killed. So, I mean, you're exactly right.
There's there's a lot of nuances this conversation, but Mark,
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I really appreciate you coming on, Thanks for joining us tonight,
Thank you, and coming up next. Leaders in Washington, d C,
and Silicon Valley are now rethinking how to keep the
US ahead in artificial intelligence after China's deep seak is
disrupting our plans for dominance in the field or details
gonna come back into.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
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Speaker 6 (16:43):
One last question, and that is about the legislation that
was written in this room that was the biggest transformation
on clean energy in American history. That is our package
that basically said the tax code as it relates to
energy is a broken down ness. We basically said we're
going to have a technology neutral system. The more you
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reduce carbon, the bigger your tax savings. Now there is
a big effort in the Trump administration to reverse it.
I think that's gonna be bad for the economy, but
it is going to be damn good for China because
we are in an arms race and clean energy with them.
Are you going to be on the side of people
who want to unravel this?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Senator the Senator Widen, Just so we can frame this
for everyone in the room. China will build one hundred
new coal plants this year. There is not a clean
energy race. There is an energy race. China will build
ten nuclear plants this year. That is not sore. I
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am in favor of more nuclear plants, and I would
note that the IRA as scored by the CBO, is
wildly out of control in terms of spending on the upside.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Meet your new Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson didn't hold back
at his confirmation hearing, and in return, his nomination was
approved by the Senate yesterday. He actually even scored some
bipartisan support, with the final tally being sixty eight to
twenty nine votes. As you just heard, Besson isn't afraid
to call a spade a spade, and he's not about
to let China steamroll us in any sector. And it's
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not just an energy but it's also through illegal immigration.
Here's Bessen on that issue.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Watch there's studies, including from the American Immigration Council, that
say that could produce GDP by four point two to
six point eight percent. The Economic Policy Institute found that
without immigration, the prime age workforce would have essentially seen
no growth at all in the past quarter century. What
is the economic impact potentially of the kind of deportation
he's talking about. Where would you find those workers otherwise?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Well, let's go back, because I find all this pretty
duplicitous for my entire career, probably most of your entire lives.
The academic economist said, oh no, absolutely, unauthorized new arrivals
do not put downward pressure on wages. Then lo and behold.
In this cycle, when we had the massive inflation, we
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get whether it's eleven million new arrivals, there's President Trump
thinks twenty one million new arrivals. It does push down
wages on the bottom quintile, which I think is abominable.
These are working people Americans who are seeing their wages
get pushed down. So now it's what I always believed,
what you could see, what you could observe, it does
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push wages down. And I would just say I dispute
those GDP numbers because if it were good, why wouldn't
we just have a road from Tara del Fuego to
the Rio Grande and let everybody who wants to come
in in. We could double GDP, but per capita GDP
per American would drop substantially. It is about American citizens
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standards of living.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So an open border policy for the US helps China
actually in a number of different ways. First off, it
dilutes the meaning of citizenship to the point where Americans
identify more with other ethnic groups than with being an American,
which is used as a byword then for racism misogyny.
So Casein points singer Selena Gomez crying on social media
about President Trump's deportations. As friend of the show Adam
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Johnson points out on X Selena Gomez is a Texan,
and yet she views illegal aliens and criminal ones that
from south of the border as being her people instead
of her fellow Americans of all races and all ethnicities.
News flash, my husband and my baby daughter are also
part Mexican and they're as American as apple pie. They
ain't going anywhere under Trumps. So let's stop with these
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embarrassing charades about quote unquote my people. Anyway. Point is
a country that can't even define itself by assimilation into
a shared culture and purpose with stringent immigration laws, does
not have the willpower to defend itself from outside attack either,
as we've seen under Biden. Second of all, open borders
allow Chinese fenton all into our country to kill our
people as well as their young men for some purpose
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that I only Jijienping knows, and as swamps out our
welfare system, making us more indebted to nations like China.
Which buy our debt. Also, all the crime and protests
which descend into riots also benefit Beijing, and they have
a penchant for supporting left wing causes here in America
for a reason, but never in their own country because
they know how destructive it is. And also last point
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on this, open borders leads to lacks legal immigration laws
as well, including the visa system for students and workers.
And since we know China is a major purveyor of
intellectual theft, you can see the problem. Our next guest
tonight responded to a post on x which reads, quote
China is illegally using American AI technology made by Nvidia
to build a powerful AI model called deep sekr I.
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The LM was released for free using an open source license.
This is a massive blow to USAI companies like open
Ai and Anthropic end quote. Our guest responded quote, the
Biden administration and its predecessors were not serious about sanctions
on China. Our measures were not comprehensive, they were imposed
with the months of notice, and they were not vigorously enforced.
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It's way pastime. We understand the gravity of the situation.
End quote. Joining us not to discuss is the author
of that post Gordon Chang. He's also the author of
Plan Red, China's project to destroy America. Gordon thinks for
being here tonight.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Carra gra So, I think I speak for many of
us who may be out of the loop. But what
exactly is deep Seek?
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Deep Seak is artificial intelligence. It actually is a competitor
to open ais chat GPT, and it is taking the
world by storm because it was made with a relatively
little amount of money and it was produced very quickly,
and that means that our programs, which are enormously expensive,
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take years to produce. You know, just seemed a little
bit out of date. Now. I'm sure that open AI
and other companies and American kids in basements are going
to figure out better stuff, But at the moment, the
world is just raving over deep Seek.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And I know I heard somewhere on social media that
someone asked deep seek a question the AI about Tanneman Square,
and at first it actually gave a correct answer on it,
but then when the question was reasked, it deleted that
previous answer and pretended had never answered in that way.
Screen Shots were then shown too deep Seek saying no,
you did say the correct thing about Tannam and square.
Now you're you're not even touching the subject. And then
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it deleted the screen shots it completely. It wouldn't even
it wouldn't even interact. It completely memory hold it. And
then it said something along the lines of we are
are learning to incorporate information and this and that and
to give you the best user experience. And many were
wondering if we met the CCP. So if Deep Seak,
like I said, it's cheaper, cheaper, it was created a
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lot faster. If that starts to be the new building
blocks for a lot of AI artificial intelligence technology that
we have, that could be a real problem for America.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Right, there are two problems. One of them is that
in the United States we're going to have the propagation
of more Chinese narratives because it's not only questions about
Tenement Square, it's questions about Si Jinping and all the
rest of it. Because Deep Seek actually says, look, we
promote core socialist values. You know, we are in accordance
with Chinese laws, and we know what that means. The
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other issue, car is that because this is AI, it
accumulates enormous amounts of data and information. So this is
like TikTok on steroids, which means we've now got another
problem with China taking all the intellectual property in the
United States and putting it to the service of a
militant regime which decides we are the enemy. So yes,
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that two problems.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Then it is And I'm not the biggest fan obviously
of AI in the same way of nukes, but it's
one of those things, right that if you don't really
get become the if you're not able basically to get
to the top of this race, someone else is going
to do it. And in that case, it's going to
be China. So we really need to be on our
game here. And as you mentioned in your posts that
previous administrations, especially Biden's administration also Obamas to a degree,
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they didn't take this as seriously as they should have.
So I know President Trump is staffing his administration as
we started off with Secretary Besson and others. Do you
think they will be able to hold China to account
in ways that previous administrations didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
And one of the ways that President Trump can do
that is his favorite word in the dictionary, which is tariffs.
China right now is extraordinarily dependent on the US market,
more so than in twenty eighteen when President Trump imposed
his first round of Section three oh one tariffs, and
that means that we now have more power over China.
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Sjen Ping has actually put the fate of his regime
in our hands because right now his only way out
is to export more, and the US, which is the
biggest market in the world, is irreplaceable. So if Trump
were to go forward with the tariffs on China as
he's talked about, that puts China in a very very
difficult position. So, yes, we do have the leverage. And
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this is asymmetric, but asymmetric policies are the ones that
work best in this situation that they do.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Gordon, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Thank you, Carl,
And coming up next, President Trump mocks the Green new
scam he terminated by asking, where are we all supposed
to be dead by now? After all, the creators of
that hoax only gave us twelve years to live, right,
We'll share the cliff and we come back into.
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Speaker 1 (26:57):
Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host Karen McKinney.
House Republican leadership how their annual policy retreat in Florida
on Monday, and President Frum a very simple question, weren't
they all supposed to be dead by now? It was,
of course, referring to all the climate scam doomsday predictions.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
Watch I terminated the ridiculous and incredibly wasteful green new scam,
one of the great scams in history. Actually, isn't it
twelve years up? They gave us twelve years to live?
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Right?
Speaker 10 (27:23):
I think that we passed it right. We're still around.
Can you believe it? You know, the person that really
came up with it is a person that never even
took a course on the environment, was a poor student,
not a good student, didn't understand a lot, and she
came up with this idea and everybody all of a
sudden started going and then mainstream, you know, important Democrat
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leaders were starting you know, they got sucked into it,
and we've spent trillions of dollars on just like throwing.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It out the window. You could throw it out the window.
You would have been better off.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Our next guest argues that Trump is poised to once
and for all put a stake through the heart of
the un globalist climate change scam. So joining us now
to discuss as Mark Morano, the founder of climatedepot dot com. Mark,
thanks for being here tonight.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Thank you, Kara.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
Just watching that clip, you just want to take a
breath of fresh air. That's the President of the United
States reframing the entire climate narrative and throwing the absurdity
right back in their face.
Speaker 11 (28:23):
AOC's twelve year tipping point.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
And by the way, it was twenty nineteen, I believe,
So I think we have well twenty eighteen.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
I think we have until twenty thirty until it expires technically,
so we could still all be doomed.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, we'll see something tells us, tells me We'll still
be here and I'll still be talking to you, and
everything will be just as normal, because we've been hearing
ten years as well, and we've keep coming up on
the ten years again and again, and everything is fine,
and you know it is. It's so refreshing to finally
hear what used to be talked about so sacro synct, right,
even a lot of Republicans wore talked about it very
sacrosanc we and now we're President Trump is dispensing with
(28:58):
all that that fake notion. Let's call it for what
it is. It's stupid, it's a lie, it's fake, it's
a scam. So as you talk about, you know, that's
quite the pronouncement that you make about President Trump being
able to you know, kind of pierce through this whole
scam once and for all. Can you walk us through
what you mean by it?
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Yes? Okay, Trump one point zero.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
He gets elected in twenty sixteen, The entire climate change
movement from the World Economic Form to the United Nations,
al Gore, the whole Green New Deal, infrastructure here in
the United States all were basically Donald Trump is like
a kidney stone. It's gonna hurt a little bit, but
we'll pass them through the system and we're going to
continue with no problem.
Speaker 11 (29:35):
They had one problem.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
Donald Trump came in and did a lot of reversals,
but it was coming back from Obama. So we went
ying Yang with Trump, and then Biden comes in and
goes the other way.
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Now Trump's back.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
The reason this is different than Trump's first term is
because we've had now eight years of the global environmental
climate change movement with the UN Paris Agreement, and they've
tried everything from solar and WIN mandates to banning gas
powered cars, to all of the net zero rules and regulations,
the intentional collapse of our energy rationing, the intentional collapse
(30:09):
of food production, going after the Netherlands farmers with the
net zero policies and all the other farmers in Europe
to the point where they rebelled and sprayed manure on
EU headquarters and they paused. They halted the green deal
in Europe last summer because the EU elections, and then
they also were coming after our freedom of movement, France
(30:29):
banning short haul flights and CNN proposing carbon passports and
all the sustainable aviation nonsense. All of this happened. We
saw the Ukraine War and the effect it had on Europe.
They were caught completely unprepared and they have to rely
now on the Middle East. They had to rely on Russia,
They had to rely on all the green energy they
(30:50):
had wasn't working. We now know that green energy is
more expensive, it's not green takes half million pounds to
dig up the earth to make one ev We know
that it takes tons and tons of non recuit recyclable plastic, steel,
concrete to make you know, wind turbines, and they run
on oil. They're horrible to recycle. They don't produce any
(31:11):
measurable energy. They're under fourteen percent globally, and in the
US despite all the trillions and bill hundreds of billions
in subsidies and mannies. So when Donald Trump comes around
two point zero, the whole world is like ready to
walk away from this, and he comes in with like
a pin and just pop. And that is why this
I say, this may be the most consequential presidency, exceeding
(31:32):
that of even Ronald Reagan, because he's the right man
at the right time, and he understands one thing and
you open the show with a kiara, that framing and
that narrative. It's not like he's like, well, of course
climate's a problem, we need a solution, and he's just like,
it's a scam, and that resonates and what that's going
to cause. We've already seen what I was in Baku, Azerbaijan,
(31:54):
twenty three hours of NonStop travel from Washington DC.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
To Baku to go to that stupid UN COP twenty
nine Climate summit.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
We know that Donald Trump picked up the phone, talked
to Malay, the Argentinian leader, and he pulled out his
entire delegation from the UN Climate Summit. We know the
French Foreign Environmental Ministry didn't even bother to attend. We
know that the host country said oil was a gift
from God.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
We know there was massive infighting.
Speaker 12 (32:20):
I was able to witness first hand out a UN
summit what I call the Trump effect. He was imploding
the entire summit to the point where I where they
want to ban countries who don't support the narrative, which
means they're going to end up completely collapsing once they
start banning countries. So by point being, Donald Trump understands
it's the power of the message and narrative. And he's
(32:42):
also of course gone through everything from offshore wind to solar.
He's gone after the Inflation of Reduction Act. We need
the Republican Congress to follow up on that. And of
course he's pulled us out of the UN Paris. We
now have the possibility of Hungary, Poland Argentina what I
call a Clexit, a climate exit from this UN Paris Agreement. Again,
these are significantly consequential because it's going to be very
(33:03):
hard for them to recover from this in four or
eight years because we've unlike it's kind of like to
defund the police. It was a theory academics for dec order.
If you defund the police, the cities will be safer. Well,
guess what they actually got to try in a real
world experiment and it was a disaster within a year.
Joe Biden's begging refund the police at the State of
the Union. Same thing with climate. It was a theory
(33:25):
for decades. They finally got to implement their net zero
green New Deal un class and it was a disaster everywhere.
It was tried from Sri Lanka through Europe, through Australia
and Canada, and the people are rejecting it. So that's
why I say he's the most consequential president.
Speaker 11 (33:40):
This is unprecedented, and.
Speaker 12 (33:42):
He's doing it with such clarity of message and as
a communications guy, that's what really appeals to me now so.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Much that you said in there was so eminently important.
Right as you're talking about these ideas, they've met reality
and they've failed. But Preston Trump is the only one
who's really bold enough to go out there and say
what everyone else now is slowly having to come to
their own realization right behind closed doors quietly. And you're
also so right that that his framing is perfect, because
time and time again we always hear the right they concede,
(34:11):
and they concede all these points to the left, and
then so then everyday people what they hear is, oh,
so the left is right on this issue, but you're
not going to do what it takes to defeat climate change.
So you people on the right are therefore evil must
be chills for big oil and the like. And that
is where we keep putting ourselves in that same bind.
And Trump again is just so honest with this, saying
the whole thing is fake. I'm not even going to
(34:31):
play by this weird framing rule because it just it
doesn't even matter. And also, as President Trump, he's getting
support now from corners of this world that used to
be quite unthinkable. And part of it is because a
lot of these people are just motivated by their own
personal gain. Right, President Trump is promising an American comeback.
He said that at Davos. You heard people at Davos say, well,
(34:51):
we lost Trump one. And so when it comes to
energy specifically, once that STI is coming more and more online,
especially over this next six months to two a year,
lots of people are gonna be making money. Inflation will
be eased, a lot of our economic woes will be eased.
And do you think that will continue to help usd
Trump and his messaging against this entire scam.
Speaker 11 (35:11):
Yes, Okay, a couple things need to happen.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Yes, we need to have economic growth, we need to
have inflation under control, and you need to defund And
the executive orders are great as far as they go,
but we know from Trump one point zero that they
can be undone. Just like Obama's executive orders run don
Trump's undid him, Biden none did Trump's.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Now Trump's undoing Bunes. It's important that he does it.
Speaker 12 (35:35):
But we need Congress to come in and repeal the
Inflation Reduction Act, which I got to tell you, elements
of big oil things like the American Petroleum Institute, a
lot of Congression Republicans, even American farmers lobbies now are
getting money for carbon capture and all these climate goodies
they don't want to repeal.
Speaker 11 (35:51):
The word now is we're gonna surgically repeal it.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
So we have to put a lot of pressure on
the Republican House and Senate.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
That's a problem.
Speaker 12 (35:58):
And the second thing Trump needs to do is submit
the UN Paris Agreement as a treaty to the Senate
to then get the Senate to reject it, because once
that's rejected, according to legal experts, it would then trigger
the entire nightmare of the whole UN Sustainable Development climate
Conferences and zero path that goes back to nineteen ninety
(36:19):
two when George HW. Bush, the Republican, got us into
this entire climate mess by going to the Rio Earth Summit.
If Trump can do that, then the next president can't
just go, well, we're back in the Paris Agreement, because
then you're going to have to have advising consent of
the Senate treating it as a treaty.
Speaker 11 (36:34):
So there are some key things.
Speaker 12 (36:36):
You can also go after the Environmental Protection Agency, the
Endangerment Finding where basically the EPA is regulating as though
carbon dioxide as a pollutant under President Biden. Trump needs
to now go after the heart of that and get
that reverse. So there's a lot of things he needs
to do that will have lasting impact, and I think
he's on the right path.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
You know. You also have mentioned in some recent interviews
as well that you think President Trump is I think
I had the quote here the greatest environmental hero of
the twenty first century. I'm sure that's going to make
a lot of people on to let They're gonna lose
their minds. But can you explain to the audience what
you mean by that.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
Yes, Donald Trump has been railing on offshore win we
now know that there's been unprecedented whale mortalities on the
East Coast. There was thirteen just recently, thirteen whale deaths
in thirty days, which was like a record, and going
back two years their unprecedented number. We now know that
federal scientists, studies, marine biologists, experts are all coming out
(37:32):
and saying the only variable that's changed in the last
couple of years has been the offshore wind development pumped
in with all this money from the Inflation Reduction Act.
So we know, and it's not just whales as marine mammals.
We also know that they've been granted leniency from the
Endangered Species Act and the Endangered Species Act allows them
to have takings of endangered whales like the right whale
(37:54):
that exceed the number of known species. So Donald Trump
comes in and day one bans all this offshore oil
drilling and is going after the funding of it, or
not after oiler drilling, but the offshore wind projects and
going after the funding. So he is actually doing what
Sierra Club, the Audubon Society, what Greenpeace have never publicly
(38:14):
gone out and said.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
He is actually the standing up saving the species.
Speaker 12 (38:18):
He is the modern day incarnation of the nineteen seventies
volvo driving save the whale liberal is now in the
form of Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (38:28):
And it's amazing to watch. He is the hero of
the whales.
Speaker 12 (38:32):
And let's hope this sticks because the biggest thing I
get is wind energy doesn't even produce the energy that
they claim.
Speaker 11 (38:40):
It's a huge boondog.
Speaker 12 (38:41):
Remember size of the Eiffel Tower, offshore wind tower, the
length of the blades or the length of a football field.
And they spend two hundred miles an hour with incredible
vibrations of the ocean and they just don't produce any
any per unit of energy. Solar and wind are some
of the lowest forms of energy, and the only reason
they survive at all is because they're trying to ban
the competition. Same with Yeah, same with EV's, although EV's
(39:03):
have more marketability theoretically, but they ban the gas powered cars.
They're banning the trying to regulate, and that's the only reason.
Speaker 11 (39:09):
They were ever in the game.
Speaker 12 (39:10):
And they're subsidized so heavily, but there is no there
there when it comes to green energy in terms of
actual producing energy.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Marky gave us a lot to think about. Thank you
so much as always for joining us tonight.
Speaker 11 (39:22):
Thank you, Ker, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
And coming up next, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is forced
to override what is being called malicious compliance of President
Trump's directive against DEI meant to discredit the entire order.
Details when we come back into.
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Welcome back to Tipping Point. I'm your host, Kara McKinney.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is already cutting through leftist narratives.
Upon enforcing President Trump's directive against DEI, Hegseth had to
override what is being called malicious compliance of that directive. Essentially,
what happened is that over the weekend, well after Mitch
McConnell tried to derail Hegsath's nomination until Vice President JD.
(40:34):
Vance overrode his no vote as McConnell went to shake
hands with Democrats, well, is that some military officials launched
their own derailment operation by yanking mention of the black
Tuskegee airmen of World War Two and of female civilian
pilots to Air Force recruits at Joint Base San Antonio
Lachlan in Texas. The idea was to smear Hegseth by
(40:54):
playing dumb on how to enforce these anti DEI measures. Basically,
they're going to attack anything that honors Black Americans and
women to make fighting DEI appear like a chauvinus, white
male supremacist goal. But hag Seth knew what they were doing,
and he squashed the light immediately by ordering the reversal
of that decision, joining us now to discuss all this
(41:15):
and more. As AJ Rice, the CEO Publius p r
aj things for being here tonight.
Speaker 13 (41:21):
Great to be here, Kara really really to pleasure.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Great So hag Seth really took the wind out of
their sales with that one. Right.
Speaker 13 (41:29):
Well, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 14 (41:30):
They're trying to be cute with this, they think, I
think they think they're being funny. It's not gonna work,
but this might be a preview of coming attractions, especially
at the Pentagon, where you know, some of these faceless,
nameless people and quite frankly scattered throughout the country that's
been upon, where they are are going to be able
(41:50):
to put little throw a little matches and put little
you know, land mines wherever they want. You know, it's funny.
I saw a continuance of this today. I just want
to congratulate you guys of as being resurrected. In the
White House, UH press briefing today, I saw, I saw
our girl out there.
Speaker 13 (42:09):
She got a question off.
Speaker 14 (42:10):
She did great today in the White House Press briefing.
One of these dopey reporters. I couldn't see who it was,
and I don't think this was some kind of conservative
with an actual concern. Someone actually asked Caroline Levitt whether
the new DEI compliance was going to somehow do away
(42:30):
with Black History Month, which is insane?
Speaker 13 (42:33):
Which is insane? Does does the does the.
Speaker 14 (42:35):
Removal of de I mean that no, Black History Month
is still alive? And well it's coming up as we speak,
you know, maybe Singo to Mayo's canceled.
Speaker 13 (42:45):
But Black History Month.
Speaker 14 (42:46):
Is alive and well right, and in fact, in my
book Behind Me, the White Privilege Album, I don't even
call it Black History Month.
Speaker 13 (42:52):
I call it Morgan Freeman History Month. Okay.
Speaker 14 (42:56):
I do not whether you remember this, but Morgan Freeman
once took it to the main shore media himself Mike Wallace,
the father of Chris Wallace, the cast off from Fox News,
by trying to say, you know, what do you think
of Black History Month? And he says, well, you know,
it's ridiculous. You're gonna relegate my history to an entire month.
So so look, I mean they're gonna play these games,
(43:19):
and maybe maybe Pete Hegseth could start putting up the
true history the Democrat party, like who did all these
experimentations on the Tuskegee Airmen? Who was the party of
you know, the Klan? Who was the party of the
Jim Crow laws. Who was bull Connor right? Who were
these people right? They weren't, you know, Republicans from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
No, you're exactly right on on that one. And I
think it's just really gross as well, because the type
of smear tactic that they were trying to do, like
you said, is to you know, snoop through and who
has an issue with the Tuskegee Airman? Literally no one right?
And in fact, teaching them their history is a great
part of bringing Americans together. That's the exact opposite of DEI,
(43:58):
and I think that's what they're not getting through their
thick skulls. Americans love celebrating their history. What they don't
love is DEI. And what that does is it silos
people and to racial blocks the Left has created under
a cultural Marxist lens. It silos you into these separate blocks.
It says, you guys can't interact with each other, you
don't know each other. It's cultural appropriation if you even
tried to understand the other. So you just need to
(44:20):
shut up and sit down and listen to someone else's
lecture you about how you're actually very evil. It goes
down to your own DNA from the time you were born.
You're an evil incarnate person inheritor of an evil empire,
on and on it ghost, that's DEI, and that is
what we're trying to root out, right, We're trying to
root out all of that from our military. It's not
teaching the vast complexity of our national makeup and our history,
(44:44):
two very very different things, and to try and conflate
those things. I think it's just pure evil on their
part what they're trying to do. But at the same time,
President Trump, he's giving you know, obviously Secretary heg Seth
four big tasks right when it comes to getting those
who are COVID or service members who refused the COVID
vaccine shop usually on religious grounds, getting them back into
the military, reinstating rank and pay, getting the trans ideology out,
(45:08):
getting the neo Marxist, the cultural Marxist DEI infusion out
of our military, and of course the Iron Dome we
talked about earlier in this show tonight. But what does
it say about how about our military? And Writiness Scott
that President Trump has to tell the Defense Secretary to
make our military lethal again in combat ready. That should
have just been obvious, right, But this whole time we've
(45:29):
been finding these fake boogeymen of the racism specter and
of climate change and everything else not pertaining to keeping
our nation safe.
Speaker 13 (45:38):
I mean, you knew we were in a bad place.
Speaker 14 (45:40):
And I talk about this in the book when Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Millie was up
on talking to Congress, and you know, his greatest concern
wasn't Isis. It wasn't al Qaeda, wasn't little rocket man
in North Thorea, wasn't the moulacracy in Iran, or the
communist Chinese, wasn't any of these things that he wanted
(46:02):
to get to the bottom of White rage. So this
is what Captain Krunch, General So's chicken. This is what
he was worried about. This, This was the main thing
that he was worried about. White rage. I need to
understand it, and need to understand white rage. Not any
of our real enemies, Not not the Chinese AI programs
(46:23):
or a possible aquatic landing of Taiwan by the Chinese,
none of these things. So, I mean, their priorities have
been totally out of whack here. And you know, in
the old days. I have to say, Uh, it used
to be the State Department that we had to worry
about where you would get some you know, uh piece
nicks and some you know, touchy feely types that want
(46:45):
to you know, hug our enemies and you know find
you know, find hamas and and uh take.
Speaker 13 (46:51):
Them home for the night.
Speaker 14 (46:52):
But when the Pentagon became a peatriot dish for not
just DEI ESG garbage. When when climate change became a
national security threat, that's when you know that, you know,
the horse had left the barn with these people. I
mean they have been trying to destroy the Pentagon. It
had never been that way. I mean, the job is
to pretty much win wars, break stuff, kill the enemy,
(47:15):
and instead it became about pregnancy, flight suits and gender
reassignment surgery.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
No, you're again, you're you're so right on. That became
a giant social experiment. And that's what our fighting men
and women were so upset about. Like you said, that's
not ever been the intention of our military. That's not
how you keep yourself safe at home, and that's not
how you project power abroad. But again, it became a
gigantic social experiment. I know, on the New White House
Press Secretary to secretary today. As you're explaining Caroline Levitt,
(47:45):
she was somealing about Dojian Omb. They've been looking back
through the numbers, of course, President from putting a freeze
on pretty much all four and eight at this point,
going back through what we're exactly spending money on and
lo and behold, I think it was fifty million dollars
and I have it here. It is fifty million dollars.
I noted it down in taxpayer money. Biden and his
administration had set aside that we were going to be
(48:06):
giving out to Gaza for condoms, and.
Speaker 14 (48:12):
I know it to be good, hilarious, fifty million dollars
for condoms and Gaza.
Speaker 13 (48:16):
And I gotta tell you.
Speaker 14 (48:17):
Kara, I don't think that program's working because Hamas has
been multiplying like gremlins when you feed them after midnight, right,
I mean, they're everywhere. So I don't think that program's working.
I think we can put that in the ashipa history.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I think we can't, but it goes to show once
again what we're spending our money on it and it's
not our fighting men and women. And that's why you
had the ground swallow support of the regular boots on
the ground, the infantry, of the grunts, whatever you want
to call them, and they supported heg Seth. They supported
him over all. The other guys of the defense industry said, no,
these are our guys, our generals. Do you pick one
of these guys for Defense Secretary? And President Trump said no,
(48:52):
I'm gonna go with what the people want. The people
want someone like Pete Hegseth, who served alongside them, has
been awarded alongside them, who understands what they're going through
and what kind of change needs to happen at the
DoD so it stops being a social experiment. And of
course that's why we see heg Seth and again they
try to derail his entire nomination. It was not exactly
to the same level that Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh face,
(49:14):
but it was getting there. It was definitely getting there.
They're keeping up the dirty tricks now. But at this point,
do you think Senator Mitch McConnell, know, he resigned from
his leadership roles in the Republican Party in the Upper Chamber,
but is he ever gonna feel any kind of remorse
that one of his you know, last acts in the Senate,
is is something like that trying to vote down? Heg seth,
(49:36):
I mean, I thought it was so rude, it was
so nasty. He goes to his buddies, the Democrats over there, saying,
did you see what I just did? I pulled a
fast one on Republicans. Republicans are sick of this. We
vote someone in as a Republican they're supposed to do
with the Republican agendas, says, they vote against it. That's
not what his constituents in Kentucky want. And yet this
is the same guy who is so proud of himself, right,
(49:57):
he stopped Merrick Garland under Obama from being on the
Supreme Court, but then he voted in favor of putting
Garland as age under Biden so that he could go
off and persecute all sorts of regular, everyday Americans. So
he can vote for Garland. That's fine, locking up Americans,
that's fine. In fact, many of his own constituents Republicans.
That's fine. But Hag said, well, that's just a bridge
(50:18):
too far.
Speaker 14 (50:20):
Well, I mean he has fallen, you know, I mean,
he's only a couple extension cords short of Joe Biden
at this point, and I would say that, you know,
and I call him flog horn leghorn. The audience needs
to be reminded of something. Mitch McConnell has pretty much
turned into this poisoned pill, this sort of John McCain
type character. But once upon a time, when I first
(50:40):
got here to the swamp, he was the anti McCain.
He actually used to sue John McCain for some of
his policies. He sued him over the McCain fine Gold
campaign finance law.
Speaker 13 (50:54):
So now here we are, it's a weekend, it's midnight.
Speaker 14 (50:58):
Just like when McCain torpedo the i'm acare repeal, there's
Bitch McConnell, foghorn, leghorn, following in John McCain's nasty footsteps.
I hope he's proud of himself. And quite frankly, there's
a lot of people I see on TV running around
putting on the chiron that they once worked for this person,
as if that's the reason they should be booked.
Speaker 13 (51:19):
They should not be booked, right, Put them in a
cannon and fire them into the potomac.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Aj It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for
the laughs, and also for the analysis. Thanks for joining
us tonight here. Thank you, and when we come back,
allow the results of our last Tipping Point poll where
we asked was COVID nineteen intentionally or unintentionally released by China?
You won't want to miss it.
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