December 13, 2023 • 54 mins
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Which topic will Stefanie and Courtney pick today??...
Which topic will Stefanie and Courtney pick today??...
- Time for a Pyramid Scheme
- What in Reincarnation?!
- I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.
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Staring at the wall. We werelike, why are you there? Jun,
put yourself in time. No steeringat walls or Sweeten isn't. When
she was little she used to runtowards the couch and slide underneath it.
Oh. Yeah, she was introuble. So it's like in that same
little area. Yeah, you can'tfit there now, not with that big
booty. No, no, stillchunky monkey. Man? Oh are you
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recording? Yeah? I just startedit again right now? Who cares?
Here we go? Here we are? Okay? How by still here again?
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Man? I guess this is athing. Then, huh me?
How is everybody? Week? Andgood doing all the Christmas things? You
had a cookie party? I lovehaving a cookie party every year. This
is a I love it. Howmany annuals? Seven seventh annually seven seven?
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That's way more than I would haveexpected. Yeah, I think I've
been to all of them. Youhave been to that's fun? Yeah,
oh it's so much fun. Andsomebody got best tasted Oh my god.
Oh okay, if you didn't reallyunderstand what was happening, if you couldn't
see the gestures that she was doing, Sephanie won I did for best Tasting
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Cookie. You know what, outof like fifteen, it was like sixty
cookie. Not a baker. I'mnot much of a cook, so to
win best tasting is like, ohyeah, that is the award for someone
like we legitimately good cookie. Ireally like that cookie. Yes, but
it was like a peanut butter ballwith a covered and chocolate. It was
like light and fluffy on the hair. It's like instead of making a rice
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crispy tree with a marshmallow. Insteadof marshmallow, you use peanut butter and
powdered sugar and melted butter, andyou just them together, no bake,
which is right up my alley.You do the peanut butter, the melted
butter and the sugar. You mixit together until it's like creamy, and
then you slowly add in the ricecrispy tree. It was so good,
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huh. And then you let thatcool for a while and then you melt
some chocolate and you roll it inthere, which I really didn't have much
patience for. Some of them lookbetter than others. The one I had
looked very good. I brought thebest looking ones to your house, left
the fuggly ones in mine, butit still tasted great. So whatever.
Oh yes, so good John,proud of you. Thanks. It's funny
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like throughout the years of my Pinterest, like because Corneos has this party every
year, I save different like holidays, do like a holiday board just in
case, and then when it getsclose, I'm like, which one do
I want to make? It's agood idea I should probably do that,
would you make? I made?It was like a green cookie and I
had like crushed up oreos in itand white chocolate chips. It was like
and cream. It was like cookiesand cream. It was like piled and
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organ It was good. I likedit. It was it was pretty good.
It was problem was it was likea recipe that I got off of
Pinterest and there wasn't a whole lotof detail to it. So I kind
of had the wing a couple ofthings and it didn't come out. It
tasted great though, it looked good, was cut very festive. Yeah.
Well. The only other one Ihad was what was it a molasses one?
Oh? Yeah, yeah, itwas good. I just I just
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realized I don't like molasses actually,so I didn't like it. Yeah,
I thought it was pretty yummy.I like, I thought it was Yeah,
it was fine, but I justI'm not molasses kind of guy.
I guess it was a lot.I'm more of a sorghum kind of guy.
Okay, last year when I wentI went to your party, Dustin
was asking me when I brought backa bunch of cookies, like, are
there any peanut? But I wentand there were none. Last year there
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was maybe one, there might beone. But this year there were like
three or four. It was halfof them, and you know which bitch
came out still on top. Ishould have brought the whole bowl of cookies
up, please, so you justcrunch on them while we're talking. I
mean, I'll slurp it and burbon my bubble about cookies that I've already
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eaten today. Is insane, understandable. Yeah, yeah, that's the bad
thing. Anyways, that's fun.Yeah, okay, Dustin take it away.
Should we get started? Yes,Before we get started, I wanted
to talk about my little thing.Okay, not that little thing, a
different little thing. This is asurprise, this is live, this is
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not a chest. No. Iwanted to talk about my little side project.
Yeah, a little very excited aboutit. So while you guys were
taking a little bit of a breakbefore. Yes, between this and the
YouTube stuff, I was really bored, so I'm so sorry to let you
down. Well, you know,it is what it is. I guess
it's also a PSA. If anybodyneeds a podcast producer Dustin that's true audio.
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Yeah, sorry, thank you.Now while I do one other podcast,
shout what it is whatever. Checkout Weird two Crime. It's really
really good, really really proud ofthe work that they do and everything.
So definitely check that out. Butyou know, because I usually have that
and this going on at the sametime, I was kind of bored,
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so I started a little down.I started like a little like clothing,
I guess, clothing line. Yeah, you did, sharp, and I'm
really excited about it. It's calledMacava Macava m A c k A v
A dot com And you know,I designed the shirts and I put them
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on there and you can order themand stay yeah, staybold. That's yeah.
There were bright colors, animals.I just put out two lions today,
two lions and our lines. Themost popular one is there's a big
elephant face that you can get.It's really I have a big foot one.
Naturally. I made a bunch ofbig foot ones to start with.
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Also a per request justin made mea yeah. Yeah, there's a Manatee
one. There's like a whole Floridacollection. There's a gator. There's the
Squatch collection of squatches. I thinkI got a shirt too. I think
I got a Squatch. Did weget the same one? I don't know?
Did we get the same one?Did we we are a size Squatch
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sisters? What color did you get? Never mind? I don't know why
I asked you. You didn't evenknow you've got another shirt? I don't
think, yes, I did.Whatever. So yeah, so I'm really
excited about it. I'm really proudof it. Look awesome. So yeah,
you can check it out macava dotcom, m A c K A
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b A dot com or I'm alsoan Etsy you can just search for macava
perfect. Yay. You should getbored more often? Oh yeah, anymore,
because now I have that, andI still let it this one not
as much as I used to.Because we're a professional. Weal off scripts.
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We're not reading anything, hordy youreye. And then also they're not
like two hour long episodes. Whereis that? Yeah, you're welcome.
Reading caused a lot of like thatwas most of the editing was the because
like nat well, like when youguys would go off script, which is
like some of the best parts.Check out the old their terrifying Tipsy episodes.
By the way, the thing ismy favorite. Oh my god,
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there's so many good episodes. That'sthe trousers snake in the what about what
about the one that had the Itwas the secreting wetness that the monsters,
that the monster. Yeah, ohmy god, gross. Yeah, it
was like wearing Flethers. So incase you didn't, I mean, in
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case you don't know, they usedto cover like scary movies. I don't
know. It's just really really funny. It was a blast to do,
which I think I can tell bytheftpis that Cory and I just had a
bunch of fun we did and nowwe're doing this it is equally. It's
fun a lot less pressure for myselfin corny all right, speak of which
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good segue? Okay, great?Oh was it you want that lit?
I was just sorry, Wow,they have a candle and I watched the
or let me see she's rubbing twosticks together hashtag two hands. It's working.
Who wild? This is what wecan do, but people can't see
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us. Right, it's out ofcontrol. I'm on fire on, I'm
on fire. Okay, I thinkyou're okay, food, you can just
spit on me. Well, there'sno fire on so you're welcome. Okay.
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That was crazy. Guys. Readyto get started? Yeah? I
mean yes, please started for thebest you have me hit record? Please
start? Okay. So I've gotthree topics, two new ones, the
one left over from last episode,Well, is time for a pyramid scheme?
Didn't pick that right? Just awhat is can you find that?
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Just like taking money from someone topay it for somebody else? It's a
pyramid scheme thing? No, okay, fuck me, I guess all right.
Here's the first new one. Whatin reincarnation? Oh my god,
please doe that again? What inreincarnation? God, damn it, I've
intrigued you. I would be.There's an accent and words. Let it,
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I mean unless you skip it,and I have to do that every
single episode. Something I think about, all right. And the third one
is I'm a man who discovered thewheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of
metal and brawn. That's what kindof man I am. You're just a
woman with a small brain, witha brain a third the size of us.
It's science. I feel like that'sthe one that telling us that we
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need to choose. I did notwant to choose now. And also like
that guy right right, okay,like I have a lot to say about
him. I don't even know him. I don't know if we'd get world
up right now? Okay, sorry, because I'm with you. I'm actually
really surprised with you right now.Yeah. Why that's a direct quote from
Anchorman? Is it? Yes?It's just science. Really wow, I
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didn't even think about it. Wow, I love Anchorman. Very surprised Ron
Burgundy. Then I can't tell youuntil you pick it. Damn it.
You should have told me that becauseI want to hate everything about it.
I honestly thought you would know thatthe way you read it. Oh,
you read it with the next wordfor a word, the quote, Ron
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Burgundy, just science. I'm justI'm a man. I'm a man who
discovered the wheel like that. Yeah, total, that's science, all right?
What do you think we got timefor a pyramid scheme? What in
reincourarnation? And then the whole shipthat I read a minute ago, go
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for it. You pick the reincarnationone. Okay, what in reincarnation?
It got weird? Okay, yeah, it's not really my thing. All
right, this one's kind of weird. You're ready. So this is the
tagline a British reincarnation case in whichtwo young sisters who died in a road
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accident appeared to be reborn as twinsto the same parents. Hmmm, what
so they were twins already who bothdied or sisters? Yeah, they were
sisters, not twins, sisters whoboth died in a car accident. And
then the family, the parents ofthose two girls had another kid, but
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they were twins and there, andthey believed the doors they lost were reincarnated
as the doors the twins that justhad. Correct. Yeah, the two
original girls were not twins. Theywere like separated by like three or four
years or whatever. And they werehit by a woman driving a car who
hit them, the two of themand one little boy who I think died
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also, And she did it becauseshe was angry that her kids got it.
Okay, that's a twist. Werethey like outside playing down the street
or so, yeah, and shehit them. What a piece of Wow,
we're to a crime if you couldlook that case and maybe get some
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background on that. So she wentto car Yeah what happened? Okay,
Well that's just fucked up in itself. Okay, So they've been reincarnated into
their news. So about a yearlater they had they got pregnant, and
they had twins girls. Twin girls. Okay, like, did we read
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the story? Yeah, because I'mjust having Okay, yes, So obviously
they believe in reincarnation, right thefather similarities are just too like it's both
They're like, well they have tobe maybe like the way that doughters are
acting as making them believe in reincarnation. Yeah, maybe because of their their
personalities or whatever. It's like identical. Yeah. So there's two sides of
the story. Okay, interesting,So let me read it, Okay.
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The Pollock Twins story is a fascinatingand mysterious tale that has intrigued people for
decades. It begins in the smalltown of Hexham. Hexam must be must
be It's it's in England, though, then it's definitely Hexam'm not Hexam then,
because if it's British, can youdo a British can you say in
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a British accent? Though I don'teven know how to do a British accent.
You do, I don't. Idon't know if I could say that
that's what? Well, just likesay something and then just lead into it.
I'm sure it'll work. No,I feel like welcome to Maybe it's
oh, you know, I betit's ExHAM. Welcome to ExM definitely,
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oh god, a small town ofExHAM, England. In the nineteen fifties,
John and Florence Pollock led a normallife with their two daughters. Now,
no shock, Okay, I thinkit would really help, no stories,
I would Yeah, it would reallylike to see the problem with my
very what's the word cockney? No, well, you can't really understand what
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I'm saying. Wow cockney? Yeah? Like what was that snatch? Yes?
What a good movie? Okay,let me So this is a gets
confusing because the names are all verysimilar, okay, in the nineteen fifties,
John and Florence Pollock not similar.Well, that's the that's the mom
and dad. They've been through alot already, John and Darrence, John
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and Johnanna, John and Johnna.All Right, John and Florence Pollock led
a normal life with their two daughters, Joanna and Jacqueline. Okay, Joanna
and Jackie. Let's just make themdifferent, right Joanna, Jackie, Joe
and Jackie Jojo and Jack Joe,Jack Joe Jack Jack Joe bo Jack but
Jack Horseman or it's uh Joe JackCorseman John Flow Jack Joe. Oh wow
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what John Arns Flow Jack Joe,John Flo Jack Joe, Oh wow,
John John Florence So flow Jack Joe. Wow. So that tells me.
Something tells me that's gonna make itharder. Oh no, I definitely didn't.
There's definitely more characters gonna come in, ok John, Jack Joe,
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Okay, got that? Got whatElgically. In nineteen fifty seven, both
girls died in a car accident.The grief, they really they just leave
it at that, and there's alot more anyway, The grief stricken parents
longed for their daughter's return. Innineteen fifty eight, So a year later,
I'm sorry to say how old thosedaughters were, Like seven? I
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can. I got an article thatsays it, but I don't have it.
They're like like seven young six isyeah, yeah, yeah, like
six and eight or something like that, if I remember anyway, And this
is car accidental, as if theywere in the car. But I'm fairly
certain they got hit by a car. The grief stricken parents long for their
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daughter's return in nineteen fifty eight,So a year later, Florence Pollock gave
birth to twins, Gillian and Jennifer. Wow. See gets weird? John,
John, Flow, Jack, Joe, jil Jen. That can't be
easy for you. That can't makeit easier. Here's the problem. That
was each of me to say.And it shouldn't be shouldn't be you.
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Your mind is a weird place.We know, we know, we know
that. Here's the problem. IfI had to read those words together,
I can. Okay, let meask you what bro my eyes in my
brain just don't work. Mouth basedon that? What? What's all?
What's all? Six names? John, Florence, Jacqueline, John, what
you want the joke? Joanna,Joanna, Jillian and Jennifer. Wow.
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Your brain is a weird I'm gonnasay it again, and dark sometimes whatever,
don't hang out there and you know, okay. From an early age,
the twins displayed behaviors and knowledge thatwere inexplicably linked to their deceased sisters.
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They recognized toys that had belonged toJoanna and Jacqueline, even though they
had never seen them before. Theyalso exhibited similar play habits and preferences.
More astonishingly, the twins had identicalbirthmarks to their deceased sisters, which is
unusual for twins. Oh. Absolutely, I guess twins typically have like the
same birthmarks in the same places.Identical. Yeah, but they had different
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birthmarks that matched up with the andthey weren't or like I think I think
one of them had a scar likeon her hand or her arm, and
then it was a birthmark on theor something like that and spooky and I
like it. Spookyoky, spooky.That's a throwbag, that's like three years
ago throw while. Oh yeah,so he actually says that. So Jennifer
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had a birthmark on her on herwaist, mirroring a scar that Jacqueline had.
Additionally, the twins were terrified ofcars, screaming the car is coming
to get us, gosh, whichwas eerily reminiscent of their sister's fates.
I don't know that right. Asthey grew older, these extraordinary similarities faded,
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and the twins led normal lives.However, their story continues to be
a subject of interest for those whostudy reincarnation and paranormal phenomena, offering a
blend of mystery and wonder that challengesour understanding of life and death. Okay,
that's kind of fun though, Yeah, because here's the thing. How
would you deal with that as aparent though? Like, would you treat
them as you did like with theother with the children that died? Not
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well, they're probably already like helicopterparents as it is. Can you imagine?
No? No, that would bevihilated and devastating. My eyes would
be on my children the never No, yeah, I'd be with them all
the time. It actually goes onto say that they were the inventors of
those the kid leashes makes sense,yeah, Jo. Part of me wonders,
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like how much of it's a projection? Though, like I think the
idea of reincarnation is fascinating. Oh, Like, obviously I have no way
to like debunk hetern that, soI'm not I'm not saying I don't believe
in it, but I am wonderingwith like trauma, if they're I mean,
the scars, I can't but personalitythings and toys, like I wonder
if some of it's like a projection, know, like the parents like saying
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like, oh, well, youknow Jack and Joe used to do that,
so like Jill and Jenner, youknow, I mean like, yeah,
I don't know, and like thereare I'm sure there's some things that
like kids do in general. Andso maybe they're they're little. Yeah,
so they're just kind of like,well they were similar. Maybe they're hoping
maybe but they couldn't lose their girls, so they just have them again.
Yeah, but it's not the ohmy god, that's a lot of baggage.
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It is a lot of baggage forthose children. Yeah, Jill and
jen had no idea what they werewalking into. No, they did not
idea. I have a side note. I have a story. Yeah,
I was doing Driver's ed in highschool and I had the teacher was this
weird lady and she said that shewas reincarnated and fun. She was a
stripper like in her other life,like a paint stripper. You mean,
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yes, paint stripper, old furniturea lot. She said. Her name
was Where's the lack of She's fromNew York, very heavy. She was
furniture paint stripper from New York.Where's the lack of where's where's the turpentine?
The turpentine? Tony, we gottago to Florida, Florida. I
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need to live a new life,and I go to Florida. I gotta
be be incarnatedated to be a driver, dead teacher. This woman said that
her name was May because all theway made Oh may I do this?
Or may I do that? Iswhat her whole thing was. She was
telling us to a bunch of likesixteen year old is somebody is this somebody
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in your I didn't. It waslike I was driver, the teacher,
her teacher, your teacher. Myteacher was a stripper. Well in the
past life, it reincarnated she was. She was a stripper, and she
got reincarnated to the person. Shehad a choice. She's like, I
need to tone it down. I'mgonna I'm gonna talk all about it,
demonstrate any moves or anything. Iknow. I felt like this was very
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inappropriate. I think I'd be like, prove it. Get a woman,
Let's see what May's got. She'slike sixty eight years old. She was
like a lady. She's like,I'm so prepared for the very ceiling floor.
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Like the ones that like the good. Sorry, that's just the reincarnation
thing. That's fantastic, like somethingwith that too, like me because I
remember that like it was my God, that's amazing. I think I'm gonna
start saying that I was reincarnated andjust like make up. Well, that's
what I's gonna say, is likeI just say, the idea of medium
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and stuff like that are fascinating,right, but I do think it's weird
and potential bs of like, oh, in your past life you were in
this civil war? Like, howcan anybody prove that that's such bullshit?
You don't mean, like I can't. I can't prove that wrong. But
if you're talking to me about likecertain things that only I'm a bad like
okay, personalities like I mean,you could have somebody who told you.
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I did know you told us,Oh the other meeting. I have hours
I have I have listened to hoursof audio. Trust me, she comes
out. Canadas really a wild card. I never know what you're gonna get
with that one. Don't give itwine, don't give it gremline. We've
already determined that you are yesterday.By the way. Really, yeah,
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we keep selling them that episodes throwbackshow funs. Yeah, yeah, that's
actually one and it's a two parter, but it's worth it, sure is
Okay, So this reincarnation thing,it's a part of me, is like
cool, let them have it,you know, like these parents have been
through enough. Yeah, they've dealtwith I mean just devastating trauma that no
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parents have to deal with. Andit's like, if they want to believe
that Jill Jen or Jack Joe coolJill j GiB me Jack Joe. Oh
no, oh my god, Georgianor Jack Joe's shiny fucking shiny. No,
they're ghosts. They gave birth toghosts. This is that reincarnation.
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No, these are ghosts. Alpost the picture on Instagram. You warned
someone over your shoulder. I justturned it around. Iad around conversation and
I are across till from each otherand Dustin is to my left, Courty
is right, and we look toour side and dustin't just nonchalantly turns his
iPad around and there's this traumatizing Arethey connected? They look connected? No,
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I don't think so. They maybe. What is the shoulders?
I don't know, they couldn't addressthem and creepier clothes Wow, they look
like ghosts. So which ones arethose? That's the twins twins? Yeah,
so that's Jill children. Yeah yeah, Jillian and Jennifer right or Joe
Jack. Joe Jack is the first. Oh jo Jack was the first,
not the twins. Oh okay,I hate that. Please are your computer
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around? God? Wow? Everythingout the window? Definitely and ghosts.
I need that to ghost. Theirhouse is haunted. Can you look at
the one on one of the leftis scary smiling? Yeah, this one
looks like she's up to something.She is going to murder. She is
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up to the jail, she's gonnahave stabbed people. And they're asleep.
God, I can't even have aconversation with either of them that. They
probably don't move. They probably justlooked like that. Why is the picture
black and white? In the fifties, we didn't have to have black white
pictures, right, weren't they colorat that point? I mean, I
don't know. I think he'll paya lot of money for a colored photo.
I don't know, I don't know. Maybe that's just what they look
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like. They had black and whiteclothes and they have bright faces. Oh,
they're dead. There's no pigments.This is this is this isn't color
that's in color determined. This isin color. Yeah, they are.
That's uncomfortable even think I said,I take that. Do you read some
more? Sure? Okay, sothis is the actual article. So what
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I what I originally read was likemy synopsis of it. So I'll kind
of skip through it and I mayread some stuff that I've already read.
Yeah, I mean, that's justthe way it works, I guess.
Oh. So the little boy thatthey were with, his name was Anthony
and he was nine years old andhe died while going to the hospital after
me getting hit. Not related tothem, just with them, no,
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no, yeah, just walking withthem time. Yeah, sad? Maybe
like after school or something. Yeah, I hate that, or maybe before
school? Does that? Does thatboy get reincarnated as a ghost as well?
Uh? That seems weird. Reincarnatedas a ghost if you're does a
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ghost be as a ghost? Reincarnatedinto a ghost? Like is a what
if? Wait a second, whatif this entire story is just bullshit because
the parents are like, oh,these are our daughters, Jill and Jin
and nobody can see them. They'rean actual ghosts. Nobody can see them.
But the parents are like convinced throughor something that they're there birth and
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it's like, oh, these areour daughters, and so everything's great.
I mean, did you see thatthat could be a really good horror movie.
I've always wanted if somebody wants tocollab with me to like do an
actual horror movie, please hit meup. I want toror movie so bad.
I had your movie. I've alwayswanted to make a horror movie so
bad. I have so many goodideas that you can use that one if
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you want for anybody else but Estin. Okay. It was later discovered that
the driver, a local woman whowas under the influence of a number of
drugs that says, had intentionally hitthe three children after being forcibly separated from
her own kids, So that's whathappened. The case later made headlines throughout
Britain, with the woman eventually takento a psychiatric hospital. Yeah, I'm
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sure she was treated well there,I'm sure from the fifties the calm her
down here. Take this following.Okay, so remember earlier before I read
it, I said that there's kindof two sides to it. So we're
going to get into that following thedeath of Joanna and Jacqueline, the girl's
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parents, John and Florence Pollock,were devastated, right, Yeah, But
when Florence later fell pregnant, Johnbecame convinced that the two girls would be
reborn into the family as twins.So he didn't he didn't know if he
didn't, he just Oh, I'mpregnant. I bet they're going to be
twins. I'm convinced, which forthe fifties is like they would really there's
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no ultrasounds, nothing, Okay,so I think they get that little they
gets a little knee hammer on thehitter and the timmy or something. Do
you see how many feet? Idon't know. I mean that sounds plausible
medical school. There was blood lettinginvolved. Reincarnated, that's a whole podcast.
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Yeah. The couple, who weredevout Catholics, often argued over the
premise of reincarnation. Imagine arguing overthat like constantly, No, No,
that's a waste of time, absolutely, with Florence strongly rejecting John's beliefs.
So apparently I'll probably say this later, but apparently John was really reincarnation.
Okay, so it sounds like shewasn't, but he was so maybe he
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was on projecting the entire time.It was later reported that the couple's entire
marriage was even threatened as a result, with Florence almost filing divorce, which
I guess is sort of a bigdeal for like Catholic, you know well
and Catholic yea, yeah, youdon't want to go down on that.
You just suffer through. There wasalso no history, okay, so this
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is interesting. There's no history oftwins in either parents family, and Florence's
doctor had predicted a single birth,meaning of course he predicts it with he's
got like a cigarett hanging out ofhis talking it's like moving no covered in
blood, you know, meaning thelike blood letting somebody, welcome to the
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fifties. Meaning the likelihood of twinswas low against a genetic usually yeah right,
yeah, I think like if youhave twins and it's like more against
all odds. However, Florinsky birthto twin girls on October fourth, nineteen
fifty eight. The twins were namedJillian and Jennifer. While the twins were
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identical, the pair had different birthmarks, which is considered considered highly unusual,
and had a small birthmark on herleft hip, which maybe a birthmark that
Jacqueline had. She also had abirthmark on her forehead which was similar to
a small scar that Jacqueline had inthe same spot. When the twins were
three months old, the family relocatedto Whitley Bay, which was east of
Axum. It's getting worse loud,I'm gonna have to edit that out.
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It's like east of As the girlsgot it's egregiously edited out. As the
girls got older, however, itbecame clear that Jillian, so they so
they've moved. So they're three monthsold and they've moved. They relocated to
a different town. As the girlsgot older, however, it became clear
that Gillian and Jennifer seemed to rememberXum, I can't. I'm not gonna
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do anymore in detail, despite notgrowing up in this small town. When
the family returned to Hexham when thegirls were four, So they've left and
they come back four years later,the twins pointed out and named landmarks they
hadn't seen before, such as theschool Joanna and Jacqueline had attended, the
Hexham Abbey and a playground there,and they're like, oh, it's school.
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God cool, that's incredible. Howdid you do it? Oh my
god, Joe Jack. It's likea small town with one school school heavens
reincarnation is uh and the playground thatsee sisters loved. The pair even seemed
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to know the playground. Can wego on the swings? Oh my god?
Oh my god, kids swings too? They talking about a slide?
Shut up. The pair even seemedto know the way to the playground without
having ever seen it. Gets intothe playground like visual like. They probably
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there's also like and they were drivinginto town they saw it, and then
they went to their house that waslike a block away, and they're like,
oh, I remember the plug playgroundis and then they turned walk back.
There probably also signs, you know, well, they probably can't read.
You can figure out how big thistown is. Okay, one school,
one playground. Oh. Likewise,the twins were also o god.
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Likewise, the twins were also ableto identify their late sisters toys by name.
What is the there's a Teddy Bearthere? That was joanness Teddy Bear
toy train. Jacqueline loved the train. They're just naming things, Okay.
The next part is kind of creepy. Okay, although Florence. The mom
had stored the late girls toys outof sight, so she's stored them away.
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The twins started to ask for certaintoys back. In fact, it
was almost as if the twins rememberedthe toys as their own, so they
didn't Yeah, they didn't know theyexisted, like, oh, I want
It wasn't pointing down, it wasin front of their face, right apparently.
Yeah, okay, can you getthat steam engine train out of the
storage in the garage? I wouldlove to play with that Teddy rexpend Is
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there a stretch of Armstrong with these? Or my Glowworm from the eighties?
Now? Wait, did we havea glow something we talk about glow room
in an old episode? That soundsfamiliar. Probably, Oh was it?
It wasn't hell Razor or something.I don't think. I don't know,
sorry, but then it sounds likesomething we talked about. Yeah, glow
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Worm, Strawberry Shortcake, you know, all the cool Yeah. As they
were able to name their toys bytheir names previously given to them. Oh
so that's kind of weird. SoI guess like the original I can't remember
the two girls names, but theynamed it was Joe and Jack. Okay,
Joe Jack, Joe Jack named theirtoys and then the new ones children
children, We're like, oh,that's Billy the so like if let's say
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name. Let's say Joe had adoll and she named it bet got it.
Then Jill could go like, hey, where's my Betty doll? That's
weird. They also referred to thefact that the toys came from Santa Claus,
which was true. Yeah, ohI have Oh, I have more
pictures okay. Florence Jesus also noticedthat the twins had very similar personalities.
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Okay, whatever, who goes?I actually, do you want to see
the pictures? I lied, I'mintrigued. Are they in black and white?
Are they creepy? They're like cpa tone. Oh no, it's
potentially worse. It's way worse.These kids are going right at it.
We didn't even see they didn't exist. They're not real kids. The ghost
the ghosts. Nobody else can seethem but Flow and John. That's it.
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It's true, okay. The parentsalso noted that the twins even enjoyed
the same games and food. Says, is they're dead, they're ghosts.
They're anything like my children. Theyeat popcorn, chicken and macaroni and cheese.
It's not real hard. That soundsamazing, is it? Oh,
it's weird. For the first fewyears of the twins' life, Florence continued
to reject John's suggestions that the pairhad been reincarnated. After finding the twins
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talking about the car accident, however, she changed her mind. On one
occasion, Florence overheard the girls playinga game where they recreated their sister's accident.
Gillian was cradling Jennifer's head, tellingher, the blood's coming out of
your eyes. That's where the carhit you. Okay, I hate that.
Okay, I have a question becausewhat I mean these kids are dark
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demon you're fifty Okay, that's thesame one. She's evil. The other
one's kind of smiling but not really. They're not okay, Jill is pissed.
I just and also fuck them fornaming Jillian with a G. Because
they've got Joanna and Jacqueline and thenJillian, and they're like they weren't cool
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like they are now, like namingkids and having like a G or a
J. Maybe it wasn't allowed today sound. On another occasion, Gillian
pointed to Jennifer's birthmark on her foreheadand told her that is the mark Jennifer
got when she fell on a bucket. How does one fall in a bucket?
That's a great point. I'm tellingyou. It's because they're ghosts.
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They're ghosts. They're haunting the house. They don't real they aren't really exist.
They just they're here to terrorize usand upset us with somebody talking about
this accident. And they were justlike, people have a shrine to Joe
Jack and there's like articles and stuff. There's gotta be well, I don't
know what in like in the fifties, what do they have? They had
the like newspaper articles, right,I don't know. I would think,
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so, okay, what do Iknow about the fifties? Nothing? Nothing,
Besides some of the fashion was kindof cute. So it's not in
this article. But there was anotherarticle that I saw that was like sort
of the other half of the storywhere people who are like I don't believe
in reincarnation or whatever will bring upI guess it doesn't say to here,
but I remember seeing some of that. They had brothers or something, and
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the brothers were like the theory isthat they were like telling the little girls.
Yeah, yeah, and then Ifeel like I feel like that's kind
of that route. And yeah Ithink I saw that someone. We think
that's more plausible than them being deadand ghosts. And before you answer,
but before you answer, just lookat this picture ghosts ghostly dead. Yeah,
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I see the ghost dead ghosts,but the brothers don't even see them.
It's just Flow and John and Well. The brothers are like, fuck,
these people are crazy. I'm justgonna go along with it. So
they're like, yeah, I seethem, let's go play together. Yeah,
that's exactly what's happening. But iftheir brothers are like sock puppets and
they're like, oh do you rememberwhen genius to do that? Oh my
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god, they're whispering amongst each other. So what do you think real or
no? I want to say no, no, I think knows the safe
choice. Yeah, but I do. I do believe in reincarnation, but
I feel like I hope for reincarnationfor sure. Yeah, I just I
don't know. It's hard to saybecause especially with it being the fifties,
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like nobody believes anything like mental healthor the like that, like these people
like genuinely have experienced so much traumaand PTSD and like they need help.
So who knows they're seeing experiencing,hoping for projecting, Like nobody knows.
I would hope to be even increnationtoo. I think there is something beautiful
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to it. Absolutely, but it'sso hard to say that anything that happened
in the fifties. No, absolutely, Like God, I don't know what
about Anthony, the little minder aboy? What about his family? Well,
that's what I'm wondering, Like thenyou happened to him? Like how
is it just those two girls?He survived? But the other piece of
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it too, was like how thedad was obsessed with reincarnation. That's a
projection of it. And of coursethe wife what's her name? She had?
Are weird? She got it?Well, you have a weird brain.
We've already discussed that. I thinkwe all agree, don't we.
Yeah? Okay, well that wasfun like that one? Yeah, good
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job? Can you picked the nextone? Okay? Alright, so we
have time for a pyramid scheme thatwas one from last week. Or I'm
a man who discovered the wheel andbuilt the Eiffel Tower out of metal and
bron that's what kind of man Iam. You're just a woman with a
small brain, but a brain athird the size of us. It's science.
(40:00):
Ron, Uh what, I don'twatch movies. I have the Blue
eight you can borrow if you want, but I don't have to play your
laptop. I don't have a thinkmy thing. We're gonna watch it after
this, all right? What doyou think, corny? Number one or
number three? Hie for a pyramidscheme or the Ron Burgundy soliloquy you say
(40:23):
about the pyramid scheme one last week? I like the pyramid scheme. I
like them both. I'm gonna gowith number one pyramid scheme, forcing me
to have to say all that shipagain. Yes, okay, this one's
(40:46):
a little confusing, great, readyconfusing. You just have to listen a
little bit. Here's the here's thetagline. Cleopatra, the one from Egypt.
Right to be confused other ones.I didn't know. Maybe there's like
a musical artist or something called me. Now call me now Cleopatra, not
(41:10):
to be confused with Cleo? Right, got it? Yeah? What what
happened? That's it? I wonderwhat happened with Cleo? I don't know
she's still alive. Call me now, can you goog it? Yeah,
yeah, give it a goog.Miss Cleo is up to I'm sure she
probably went to prison for the shipshe was pulling. Wow, well,
isn't this appropriate. I don't thinkyou know what a pyramid scheme is.
(41:40):
I'm confusing things. Dear listener,if you've been a victim of a pyramid
scheme, please comment below and letus know what happened. Oh, I'm
sure you're all kinds of stories.There are some true crime things that I've
listened to where it has like Ithink it was Lulaoe. There was the
whole thing. Yeah, the wholebird made off thing is fascinating. There's
(42:00):
a I think it's on Netflix orsomething. They've got like a documentary on
him. I think we watched it. It's fascinating. Just like I he
got like, I don't know,one hundred years in prison or something,
and I was like, wow,I can't believe he had such a harsh
sentence. And then when you watchyou're like, oh my god, You're
like, what a dude fucked overso many people for billions of dollars.
I'm not really sure why the firstpart of this Miss Cleo thing is necessary
(42:22):
to it? Oh okay, becauseit says, basically, she passed away
in twenty sixteen. She had cancerand she went into a hospice and then
she died in pomb Beach, Florida. But the first part is in two
thousand and six, she came outas a lesbian. Who cares? What
does that to do with what happenedto Miss Cleo? How do we get
her cancer? Like it do withanything? What do you do? What
(42:45):
does it get to get that?I said, what happened to Miss Cleo?
And then it says in two thousandand six she came out lesbian Asian?
What happened to her? She saidthat she developed cancer and then she
died under hospice careen Palm Beach,Florida, in July twenty sixth. He's
sixteen at the age of fifty three. Wow yeah wow hashtag hashtag ip there's
(43:08):
a movie about her? Really?Yeah? She's she died in pump Beach,
Florida, So she was a Floridian. Wow, Well that makes sense.
An eye opening documentary, The Risein the Fall of cleon of television
Psychic Miss Cleo. Oh, Ihave to watch that it's on max.
(43:28):
It says, wow, she's famous. I mean she is famous and twenty
two I guess oh wow, okayhashtag ad okay, okay, Well it
was a fun little rabbit hole,all right. So clear Cleopatra lived closer
(43:49):
in time to the first iPhone thanto the building of the Great Pyramids.
Wait so that again. Wait aminute, Yeah, Cleopatra lived closer in
time to the first iPhone then tothe building of the Great Pyramids. Really,
so if you had a timeline yetthe Great Pyramids on one side and
the iPhone on the other, shelived closer to the iPhone than she did
(44:10):
the Great Pyramids. That really mybrain. That really does for me is
you know what, and we've donethese before where I don't know where the
time wise we haven't done it,but I've done it in general where people
are talking about like it's weird,like messes with your mind when you have
two different time time slots. Yeah, okay, go ahead. Sorry.
(44:30):
The Great Pyramids of Egypt are old, and that's it. So that well
you're supposed to say how old Ihaven't actually I haven't In parentheses is how
old are We'll really get into it. It's in the script. Well it's
in the scrap. We don't havea script. The Great Pyramids of Egypt
are old? How are they?Should you do at the same time,
(44:55):
A yeah, yeah, alright,ready, yeah, action. The Great
Pyramids of Egypt are old? Howold? Day do we do it?
Do we do it? Well?Yeah? And match what I have here,
So that nailed it. Cleopatra livedfrom sixty nine BC nice to thirty
BC, so about two thousand yearsago. Well, the Great Pyramids of
(45:20):
Giza were constructed around twenty five eightyto twenty five sixty BC, making them
roughly forty five hundred years old.This means clear Patrick lived closer in time
to the release of the first iPhonein two thousand and seven, which is
approximately twenty thirty seven years after herdeath, than the building of the pyramids.
Wow, that's interesting. Do youwant to hear another a little bit?
(45:43):
Sure? Is that the lead infor anything? You have to respond
to anything? You want to respond? We will try our best. Okay,
okay, Oh you're not gonna respondto what I just said? Oh
what did that? You're asking whathe said? Okay. Additionally, so
this is the second part. Okay, what happened in the second part.
(46:05):
Additionally, it's interesting to note thatduring the time when the Pyramids were being
built, wooly mammoths were still inexistence. Okay, that's really fucking my
brain up. Yeah. They didn'tbecome extinct until around sixteen fifty BC,
which is several hundred years after theconstruction of the Pyramids. This means that
for a period, the builders ofthe Pyramids and wooly mammoths shared the earth.
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They were get out of my way. They were helping build the pyramids.
Hey, okay, okay, maybemaybe I like that. I mean,
we're in the same area the heartmammoths would be in Egypt. That's
my thought too. It's like they'rereally wooly, you know, we learned
that. Oh they sheared them andthey made clothes out of their first he
(46:49):
got like blankets and study. Ohthat's fine. Then they be shivering because
they're not. It doesn't get itdoesn't get cold at night in the desert,
you know what I mean. Yeah, absolutely, when you never know,
because you know that there are differentanimals that are basically the same in
different areas of the country, differentcountries, you know, Pangaea, that
(47:12):
whole thing. Oh, continue I'msorry. What because when the theory of
all of the continents were like connected, that's why it makes sense that they
were like saring things, see thehand shaking and shifting and separating, and
now they're all separated. Okay,that's less because Cordy was saying that there's
(47:34):
animals in different places, because animalsin different places, that's true. Yes,
the same animals in different places.So my point is that if they
all used to be like one bigland, sure like separated, they can't
be like oh bye, like youknow, their neighbor's gone floating away.
Yeah, so they had to adapt, so has as they progressed as a
(47:54):
creature, they had to evolve evolution, bitch. How oh so do you
think that when it split off thewooly mammoths, they're like you know,
yeah, they're like peace and theybecame elephants absolutely interesting, all their hair
fill out, They got me?Or do we think that whenever they shaved
the mammoths stopped growing? Yeah,yeah, because of like evolution and like
(48:19):
the survival of the Yeah, butyou didn't say you didn't connect. Okay,
first of all, So anyway,what do you guys think about that
topic? That's pretty good profitable.Anyway, let me go ahead. I'm
gonna go ahead and meet you.And then when Corney backed it up,
you were like, Okay, Ican get on the evolution. I don't
care. I kept talking anyway,talking, picked up on your guys mic
(48:44):
stop. Okay, I just wantto say, yes, I think you
were backing up my evolution statements.I appreciate it absolutely. Yes, there
are different animals animals. Do youthink that that's how they went extinct?
Is they got crushed by the pyramids, by the survival the fittest. I'm
(49:05):
just couldn't Adaptolf just saying when peoplecan't evolve, that's what happens. Peace
out. Sorry, Now we gotnaked only mammots running around, and I
bet some of them came like gotkind of mean. They became bully mammoths.
Whoa, maybe that's like a bullMaybe no, And they like they
(49:30):
have like the bully mammoths and theirwhips. They're like getting the other whips
well with the trunk. Maybe that'sall I have with watch No, okay,
that is giving us a look.I'm smiling, Okay, Okay,
(49:52):
that's all I have. Okay,Okay, So what do we have next
week? What's the one that wehave when we have next week? It's
to carry over it again. I'ma man who discovered the wheel and built
the Eiffel Tower out of metal andbrown. That's what kind of man I
am. You're just a woman witha small brain, with a brain a
third the size of us. It'sscience. Sixty percent of time works every
(50:14):
time. Yeah. I love that. It makes sense. It sure does.
Yeah. All right, well,good stuff, Well done, Dustin,
well done. Yeah you did itagain, you did it again through
Yeah, okay, so next you'vegot two more topics on top of ron
Burgundy, so that'll be interesting.Mm hmmmm. And check out macva m
(50:37):
A c k A v A dotcom. Wow, check out We're true
and we're true crime. We aretrue crime. Give them a listen,
check out their stuff. Support themon Patreon there on patreon right, support
them everywhere too. Yeah. Absolutelytheir podcast friends m hm. And and
they did really some really cool stufflike they've did. Sorry, don't mean
no good. We just put outan interview with If you're familiar with Wor
(51:00):
Murray, they just did an interviewwith her sister and Julie Murray. I
Think is her name, and it'sa two parter and it's done really really
well, so they like cover thecase and then they sort of sprinkle in
parts of the interview into the wholedifferent perspective. Yeah. Yeah, So
Julie was really excited about how itcame out. It just comes out and
(51:21):
came out fantastic. So check thatout. If you're interested in kind of
hearing that perspective and you are anotherpodcast and you're interested in some consultations or
podcast help or editing haliber Night that, reach out to Dustin. Do you
do audio and you can help youout there too. I've done it a
long time. He's basically a bro. Yeah, well he's managed our ship
show for guys, we sound goodbecause of Dustin. It would be a
(51:45):
complete hit show. No serious.Can you imagine one of us doing that?
No, I don't think it wouldhave lasted long. We would have
been like, did we not recordany of them? You didn't press you
didn't press record. It's like,well, to be fair, we're talking
into hair brush. It was notmicrophone. We have to buy microphone.
What's his cord? Go to?We only not recorded a couple of times.
(52:08):
We did pretty good honestly. OverYeah, the last three years or
so, there's I think maybe twoepisodes that got a little bit weird screwed
up or had weird audio. Therewas one that we there was one that
we recorded and we just never releasedit. Oh that was the Omen.
Oh ye see thing we did.We did classic horror movie. Yeah,
(52:30):
and then we recorded the OMEN,which we were both angry about anyway,
because the movie was like fifteen hours. Yeah, it was so long,
and it was it was the longerthan Rosemar's Baby. Oh god, it
was probably pretty close that one was. It was just long and it was
great, yeah, and it wasn'tscary. It was just like stupid.
I don't even know if I evenedited. I don't think we know,
(52:50):
because the audio was so bad.And then like and then we heard it
and then we both were so madthat we're like fuck it. Well and
yeah, because at first, Iman, We're like, oh shit,
we just record like two hours recordingon it, and then we were like
no, we're not recording it again, and we don't want to go through
the game. I think there turnedoff or something and it was like a
computer audio interface or something like that. Yeah, but we were like the
(53:10):
funny parts were just because we hatedon it, were recreate that again.
So we're just done. We movedon. We omitted it. There was
also another one that we that youguys recorded that I just never edited,
and it just sort of stayed therefor like months and months and years,
and then one day I was like, I think you guys couldn't record,
Like, well, I'll just dothis one and we put it out.
It was like, I don't rememberwhich one was. It was a Netflix
and I can't watch it was either. And there was one of a time
(53:32):
too that we got weird audio andwe re recorded and the second time came
up bat in the first time.Yeah, so it worked out that was
an old one that was back inthe day. Yeah. So those are
always fun episodes to listen to me. Yeah. Sorry, we're getting a
little we're getting a little nostalgia.Yeah, Okay, everyone, have a
great day.
Staring at the wall. We werelike, why are you there? Jun,
put yourself in time. No steeringat walls or Sweeten isn't. When
she was little she used to runtowards the couch and slide underneath it.
Oh. Yeah, she was introuble. So it's like in that same
little area. Yeah, you can'tfit there now, not with that big
booty. No, no, stillchunky monkey. Man? Oh are you
(00:22):
recording? Yeah? I just startedit again right now? Who cares?
Here we go? Here we are? Okay? How by still here again?
(00:48):
Man? I guess this is athing. Then, huh me?
How is everybody? Week? Andgood doing all the Christmas things? You
had a cookie party? I lovehaving a cookie party every year. This
is a I love it. Howmany annuals? Seven seventh annually seven seven?
(01:08):
That's way more than I would haveexpected. Yeah, I think I've
been to all of them. Youhave been to that's fun? Yeah,
oh it's so much fun. Andsomebody got best tasted Oh my god.
Oh okay, if you didn't reallyunderstand what was happening, if you couldn't
see the gestures that she was doing, Sephanie won I did for best Tasting
(01:32):
Cookie. You know what, outof like fifteen, it was like sixty
cookie. Not a baker. I'mnot much of a cook, so to
win best tasting is like, ohyeah, that is the award for someone
like we legitimately good cookie. Ireally like that cookie. Yes, but
it was like a peanut butter ballwith a covered and chocolate. It was
like light and fluffy on the hair. It's like instead of making a rice
(01:53):
crispy tree with a marshmallow. Insteadof marshmallow, you use peanut butter and
powdered sugar and melted butter, andyou just them together, no bake,
which is right up my alley.You do the peanut butter, the melted
butter and the sugar. You mixit together until it's like creamy, and
then you slowly add in the ricecrispy tree. It was so good,
(02:14):
huh. And then you let thatcool for a while and then you melt
some chocolate and you roll it inthere, which I really didn't have much
patience for. Some of them lookbetter than others. The one I had
looked very good. I brought thebest looking ones to your house, left
the fuggly ones in mine, butit still tasted great. So whatever.
Oh yes, so good John,proud of you. Thanks. It's funny
(02:36):
like throughout the years of my Pinterest, like because Corneos has this party every
year, I save different like holidays, do like a holiday board just in
case, and then when it getsclose, I'm like, which one do
I want to make? It's agood idea I should probably do that,
would you make? I made?It was like a green cookie and I
had like crushed up oreos in itand white chocolate chips. It was like
and cream. It was like cookiesand cream. It was like piled and
(02:58):
organ It was good. I likedit. It was it was pretty good.
It was problem was it was likea recipe that I got off of
Pinterest and there wasn't a whole lotof detail to it. So I kind
of had the wing a couple ofthings and it didn't come out. It
tasted great though, it looked good, was cut very festive. Yeah.
Well. The only other one Ihad was what was it a molasses one?
Oh? Yeah, yeah, itwas good. I just I just
(03:21):
realized I don't like molasses actually,so I didn't like it. Yeah,
I thought it was pretty yummy.I like, I thought it was Yeah,
it was fine, but I justI'm not molasses kind of guy.
I guess it was a lot.I'm more of a sorghum kind of guy.
Okay, last year when I wentI went to your party, Dustin
was asking me when I brought backa bunch of cookies, like, are
there any peanut? But I wentand there were none. Last year there
(03:42):
was maybe one, there might beone. But this year there were like
three or four. It was halfof them, and you know which bitch
came out still on top. Ishould have brought the whole bowl of cookies
up, please, so you justcrunch on them while we're talking. I
mean, I'll slurp it and burbon my bubble about cookies that I've already
(04:04):
eaten today. Is insane, understandable. Yeah, yeah, that's the bad
thing. Anyways, that's fun.Yeah, okay, Dustin take it away.
Should we get started? Yes,Before we get started, I wanted
to talk about my little thing.Okay, not that little thing, a
different little thing. This is asurprise, this is live, this is
(04:30):
not a chest. No. Iwanted to talk about my little side project.
Yeah, a little very excited aboutit. So while you guys were
taking a little bit of a breakbefore. Yes, between this and the
YouTube stuff, I was really bored, so I'm so sorry to let you
down. Well, you know,it is what it is. I guess
it's also a PSA. If anybodyneeds a podcast producer Dustin that's true audio.
(04:51):
Yeah, sorry, thank you.Now while I do one other podcast,
shout what it is whatever. Checkout Weird two Crime. It's really
really good, really really proud ofthe work that they do and everything.
So definitely check that out. Butyou know, because I usually have that
and this going on at the sametime, I was kind of bored,
(05:13):
so I started a little down.I started like a little like clothing,
I guess, clothing line. Yeah, you did, sharp, and I'm
really excited about it. It's calledMacava Macava m A c k A v
A dot com And you know,I designed the shirts and I put them
(05:34):
on there and you can order themand stay yeah, staybold. That's yeah.
There were bright colors, animals.I just put out two lions today,
two lions and our lines. Themost popular one is there's a big
elephant face that you can get.It's really I have a big foot one.
Naturally. I made a bunch ofbig foot ones to start with.
(05:54):
Also a per request justin made mea yeah. Yeah, there's a Manatee
one. There's like a whole Floridacollection. There's a gator. There's the
Squatch collection of squatches. I thinkI got a shirt too. I think
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as much as I used to.Because we're a professional. Weal off scripts.
(06:57):
We're not reading anything, hordy youreye. And then also they're not
like two hour long episodes. Whereis that? Yeah, you're welcome.
Reading caused a lot of like thatwas most of the editing was the because
like nat well, like when youguys would go off script, which is
like some of the best parts.Check out the old their terrifying Tipsy episodes.
By the way, the thing ismy favorite. Oh my god,
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there's so many good episodes. That'sthe trousers snake in the what about what
about the one that had the Itwas the secreting wetness that the monsters,
that the monster. Yeah, ohmy god, gross. Yeah, it
was like wearing Flethers. So incase you didn't, I mean, in
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case you don't know, they usedto cover like scary movies. I don't
know. It's just really really funny. It was a blast to do,
which I think I can tell bytheftpis that Cory and I just had a
bunch of fun we did and nowwe're doing this it is equally. It's
fun a lot less pressure for myselfin corny all right, speak of which
(08:00):
good segue? Okay, great?Oh was it you want that lit?
I was just sorry, Wow,they have a candle and I watched the
or let me see she's rubbing twosticks together hashtag two hands. It's working.
Who wild? This is what wecan do, but people can't see
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us. Right, it's out ofcontrol. I'm on fire on, I'm
on fire. Okay, I thinkyou're okay, food, you can just
spit on me. Well, there'sno fire on so you're welcome. Okay.
(08:43):
That was crazy. Guys. Readyto get started? Yeah? I
mean yes, please started for thebest you have me hit record? Please
start? Okay. So I've gotthree topics, two new ones, the
one left over from last episode,Well, is time for a pyramid scheme?
Didn't pick that right? Just awhat is can you find that?
(09:11):
Just like taking money from someone topay it for somebody else? It's a
pyramid scheme thing? No, okay, fuck me, I guess all right.
Here's the first new one. Whatin reincarnation? Oh my god,
please doe that again? What inreincarnation? God, damn it, I've
intrigued you. I would be.There's an accent and words. Let it,
(09:37):
I mean unless you skip it,and I have to do that every
single episode. Something I think about, all right. And the third one
is I'm a man who discovered thewheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of
metal and brawn. That's what kindof man I am. You're just a
woman with a small brain, witha brain a third the size of us.
It's science. I feel like that'sthe one that telling us that we
(10:00):
need to choose. I did notwant to choose now. And also like
that guy right right, okay,like I have a lot to say about
him. I don't even know him. I don't know if we'd get world
up right now? Okay, sorry, because I'm with you. I'm actually
really surprised with you right now.Yeah. Why that's a direct quote from
Anchorman? Is it? Yes?It's just science. Really wow, I
(10:22):
didn't even think about it. Wow, I love Anchorman. Very surprised Ron
Burgundy. Then I can't tell youuntil you pick it. Damn it.
You should have told me that becauseI want to hate everything about it.
I honestly thought you would know thatthe way you read it. Oh,
you read it with the next wordfor a word, the quote, Ron
(10:43):
Burgundy, just science. I'm justI'm a man. I'm a man who
discovered the wheel like that. Yeah, total, that's science, all right?
What do you think we got timefor a pyramid scheme? What in
reincourarnation? And then the whole shipthat I read a minute ago, go
(11:05):
for it. You pick the reincarnationone. Okay, what in reincarnation?
It got weird? Okay, yeah, it's not really my thing. All
right, this one's kind of weird. You're ready. So this is the
tagline a British reincarnation case in whichtwo young sisters who died in a road
(11:31):
accident appeared to be reborn as twinsto the same parents. Hmmm, what
so they were twins already who bothdied or sisters? Yeah, they were
sisters, not twins, sisters whoboth died in a car accident. And
then the family, the parents ofthose two girls had another kid, but
(11:52):
they were twins and there, andthey believed the doors they lost were reincarnated
as the doors the twins that justhad. Correct. Yeah, the two
original girls were not twins. Theywere like separated by like three or four
years or whatever. And they werehit by a woman driving a car who
hit them, the two of themand one little boy who I think died
(12:13):
also, And she did it becauseshe was angry that her kids got it.
Okay, that's a twist. Werethey like outside playing down the street
or so, yeah, and shehit them. What a piece of Wow,
we're to a crime if you couldlook that case and maybe get some
(12:35):
background on that. So she wentto car Yeah what happened? Okay,
Well that's just fucked up in itself. Okay, So they've been reincarnated into
their news. So about a yearlater they had they got pregnant, and
they had twins girls. Twin girls. Okay, like, did we read
(12:58):
the story? Yeah, because I'mjust having Okay, yes, So obviously
they believe in reincarnation, right thefather similarities are just too like it's both
They're like, well they have tobe maybe like the way that doughters are
acting as making them believe in reincarnation. Yeah, maybe because of their their
personalities or whatever. It's like identical. Yeah. So there's two sides of
the story. Okay, interesting,So let me read it, Okay.
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The Pollock Twins story is a fascinatingand mysterious tale that has intrigued people for
decades. It begins in the smalltown of Hexham. Hexam must be must
be It's it's in England, though, then it's definitely Hexam'm not Hexam then,
because if it's British, can youdo a British can you say in
(13:43):
a British accent? Though I don'teven know how to do a British accent.
You do, I don't. Idon't know if I could say that
that's what? Well, just likesay something and then just lead into it.
I'm sure it'll work. No,I feel like welcome to Maybe it's
oh, you know, I betit's ExHAM. Welcome to ExM definitely,
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oh god, a small town ofExHAM, England. In the nineteen fifties,
John and Florence Pollock led a normallife with their two daughters. Now,
no shock, Okay, I thinkit would really help, no stories,
I would Yeah, it would reallylike to see the problem with my
very what's the word cockney? No, well, you can't really understand what
(14:33):
I'm saying. Wow cockney? Yeah? Like what was that snatch? Yes?
What a good movie? Okay,let me So this is a gets
confusing because the names are all verysimilar, okay, in the nineteen fifties,
John and Florence Pollock not similar.Well, that's the that's the mom
and dad. They've been through alot already, John and Darrence, John
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and Johnanna, John and Johnna.All Right, John and Florence Pollock led
a normal life with their two daughters, Joanna and Jacqueline. Okay, Joanna
and Jackie. Let's just make themdifferent, right Joanna, Jackie, Joe
and Jackie Jojo and Jack Joe,Jack Joe Jack Jack Joe bo Jack but
Jack Horseman or it's uh Joe JackCorseman John Flow Jack Joe. Oh wow
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what John Arns Flow Jack Joe,John Flo Jack Joe, Oh wow,
John John Florence So flow Jack Joe. Wow. So that tells me.
Something tells me that's gonna make itharder. Oh no, I definitely didn't.
There's definitely more characters gonna come in, ok John, Jack Joe,
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Okay, got that? Got whatElgically. In nineteen fifty seven, both
girls died in a car accident.The grief, they really they just leave
it at that, and there's alot more anyway, The grief stricken parents
longed for their daughter's return. Innineteen fifty eight, So a year later,
I'm sorry to say how old thosedaughters were, Like seven? I
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can. I got an article thatsays it, but I don't have it.
They're like like seven young six isyeah, yeah, yeah, like
six and eight or something like that, if I remember anyway, And this
is car accidental, as if theywere in the car. But I'm fairly
certain they got hit by a car. The grief stricken parents long for their
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daughter's return in nineteen fifty eight,So a year later, Florence Pollock gave
birth to twins, Gillian and Jennifer. Wow. See gets weird? John,
John, Flow, Jack, Joe, jil Jen. That can't be
easy for you. That can't makeit easier. Here's the problem. That
was each of me to say.And it shouldn't be shouldn't be you.
(16:48):
Your mind is a weird place.We know, we know, we know
that. Here's the problem. IfI had to read those words together,
I can. Okay, let meask you what bro my eyes in my
brain just don't work. Mouth basedon that? What? What's all?
What's all? Six names? John, Florence, Jacqueline, John, what
you want the joke? Joanna,Joanna, Jillian and Jennifer. Wow.
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Your brain is a weird I'm gonnasay it again, and dark sometimes whatever,
don't hang out there and you know, okay. From an early age,
the twins displayed behaviors and knowledge thatwere inexplicably linked to their deceased sisters.
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They recognized toys that had belonged toJoanna and Jacqueline, even though they
had never seen them before. Theyalso exhibited similar play habits and preferences.
More astonishingly, the twins had identicalbirthmarks to their deceased sisters, which is
unusual for twins. Oh. Absolutely, I guess twins typically have like the
same birthmarks in the same places.Identical. Yeah, but they had different
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birthmarks that matched up with the andthey weren't or like I think I think
one of them had a scar likeon her hand or her arm, and
then it was a birthmark on theor something like that and spooky and I
like it. Spookyoky, spooky.That's a throwbag, that's like three years
ago throw while. Oh yeah,so he actually says that. So Jennifer
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had a birthmark on her on herwaist, mirroring a scar that Jacqueline had.
Additionally, the twins were terrified ofcars, screaming the car is coming
to get us, gosh, whichwas eerily reminiscent of their sister's fates.
I don't know that right. Asthey grew older, these extraordinary similarities faded,
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and the twins led normal lives.However, their story continues to be
a subject of interest for those whostudy reincarnation and paranormal phenomena, offering a
blend of mystery and wonder that challengesour understanding of life and death. Okay,
that's kind of fun though, Yeah, because here's the thing. How
would you deal with that as aparent though? Like, would you treat
them as you did like with theother with the children that died? Not
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well, they're probably already like helicopterparents as it is. Can you imagine?
No? No, that would bevihilated and devastating. My eyes would
be on my children the never No, yeah, I'd be with them all
the time. It actually goes onto say that they were the inventors of
those the kid leashes makes sense,yeah, Jo. Part of me wonders,
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like how much of it's a projection? Though, like I think the
idea of reincarnation is fascinating. Oh, Like, obviously I have no way
to like debunk hetern that, soI'm not I'm not saying I don't believe
in it, but I am wonderingwith like trauma, if they're I mean,
the scars, I can't but personalitythings and toys, like I wonder
if some of it's like a projection, know, like the parents like saying
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like, oh, well, youknow Jack and Joe used to do that,
so like Jill and Jenner, youknow, I mean like, yeah,
I don't know, and like thereare I'm sure there's some things that
like kids do in general. Andso maybe they're they're little. Yeah,
so they're just kind of like,well they were similar. Maybe they're hoping
maybe but they couldn't lose their girls, so they just have them again.
Yeah, but it's not the ohmy god, that's a lot of baggage.
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It is a lot of baggage forthose children. Yeah, Jill and
jen had no idea what they werewalking into. No, they did not
idea. I have a side note. I have a story. Yeah,
I was doing Driver's ed in highschool and I had the teacher was this
weird lady and she said that shewas reincarnated and fun. She was a
stripper like in her other life,like a paint stripper. You mean,
(20:51):
yes, paint stripper, old furniturea lot. She said. Her name
was Where's the lack of She's fromNew York, very heavy. She was
furniture paint stripper from New York.Where's the lack of where's where's the turpentine?
The turpentine? Tony, we gottago to Florida, Florida. I
(21:15):
need to live a new life,and I go to Florida. I gotta
be be incarnatedated to be a driver, dead teacher. This woman said that
her name was May because all theway made Oh may I do this?
Or may I do that? Iswhat her whole thing was. She was
telling us to a bunch of likesixteen year old is somebody is this somebody
(21:38):
in your I didn't. It waslike I was driver, the teacher,
her teacher, your teacher. Myteacher was a stripper. Well in the
past life, it reincarnated she was. She was a stripper, and she
got reincarnated to the person. Shehad a choice. She's like, I
need to tone it down. I'mgonna I'm gonna talk all about it,
demonstrate any moves or anything. Iknow. I felt like this was very
(22:00):
inappropriate. I think I'd be like, prove it. Get a woman,
Let's see what May's got. She'slike sixty eight years old. She was
like a lady. She's like,I'm so prepared for the very ceiling floor.
(22:21):
Like the ones that like the good. Sorry, that's just the reincarnation
thing. That's fantastic, like somethingwith that too, like me because I
remember that like it was my God, that's amazing. I think I'm gonna
start saying that I was reincarnated andjust like make up. Well, that's
what I's gonna say, is likeI just say, the idea of medium
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and stuff like that are fascinating,right, but I do think it's weird
and potential bs of like, oh, in your past life you were in
this civil war? Like, howcan anybody prove that that's such bullshit?
You don't mean, like I can't. I can't prove that wrong. But
if you're talking to me about likecertain things that only I'm a bad like
okay, personalities like I mean,you could have somebody who told you.
(23:03):
I did know you told us,Oh the other meeting. I have hours
I have I have listened to hoursof audio. Trust me, she comes
out. Canadas really a wild card. I never know what you're gonna get
with that one. Don't give itwine, don't give it gremline. We've
already determined that you are yesterday.By the way. Really, yeah,
(23:29):
we keep selling them that episodes throwbackshow funs. Yeah, yeah, that's
actually one and it's a two parter, but it's worth it, sure is
Okay, So this reincarnation thing,it's a part of me, is like
cool, let them have it,you know, like these parents have been
through enough. Yeah, they've dealtwith I mean just devastating trauma that no
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parents have to deal with. Andit's like, if they want to believe
that Jill Jen or Jack Joe coolJill j GiB me Jack Joe. Oh
no, oh my god, Georgianor Jack Joe's shiny fucking shiny. No,
they're ghosts. They gave birth toghosts. This is that reincarnation.
(24:15):
No, these are ghosts. Alpost the picture on Instagram. You warned
someone over your shoulder. I justturned it around. Iad around conversation and
I are across till from each otherand Dustin is to my left, Courty
is right, and we look toour side and dustin't just nonchalantly turns his
iPad around and there's this traumatizing Arethey connected? They look connected? No,
(24:37):
I don't think so. They maybe. What is the shoulders?
I don't know, they couldn't addressthem and creepier clothes Wow, they look
like ghosts. So which ones arethose? That's the twins twins? Yeah,
so that's Jill children. Yeah yeah, Jillian and Jennifer right or Joe
Jack. Joe Jack is the first. Oh jo Jack was the first,
not the twins. Oh okay,I hate that. Please are your computer
(25:00):
around? God? Wow? Everythingout the window? Definitely and ghosts.
I need that to ghost. Theirhouse is haunted. Can you look at
the one on one of the leftis scary smiling? Yeah, this one
looks like she's up to something.She is going to murder. She is
(25:21):
up to the jail, she's gonnahave stabbed people. And they're asleep.
God, I can't even have aconversation with either of them that. They
probably don't move. They probably justlooked like that. Why is the picture
black and white? In the fifties, we didn't have to have black white
pictures, right, weren't they colorat that point? I mean, I
don't know. I think he'll paya lot of money for a colored photo.
I don't know, I don't know. Maybe that's just what they look
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like. They had black and whiteclothes and they have bright faces. Oh,
they're dead. There's no pigments.This is this is this isn't color
that's in color determined. This isin color. Yeah, they are.
That's uncomfortable even think I said,I take that. Do you read some
more? Sure? Okay, sothis is the actual article. So what
(26:02):
I what I originally read was likemy synopsis of it. So I'll kind
of skip through it and I mayread some stuff that I've already read.
Yeah, I mean, that's justthe way it works, I guess.
Oh. So the little boy thatthey were with, his name was Anthony
and he was nine years old andhe died while going to the hospital after
me getting hit. Not related tothem, just with them, no,
(26:25):
no, yeah, just walking withthem time. Yeah, sad? Maybe
like after school or something. Yeah, I hate that, or maybe before
school? Does that? Does thatboy get reincarnated as a ghost as well?
Uh? That seems weird. Reincarnatedas a ghost if you're does a
(26:52):
ghost be as a ghost? Reincarnatedinto a ghost? Like is a what
if? Wait a second, whatif this entire story is just bullshit because
the parents are like, oh,these are our daughters, Jill and Jin
and nobody can see them. They'rean actual ghosts. Nobody can see them.
But the parents are like convinced throughor something that they're there birth and
(27:15):
it's like, oh, these areour daughters, and so everything's great.
I mean, did you see thatthat could be a really good horror movie.
I've always wanted if somebody wants tocollab with me to like do an
actual horror movie, please hit meup. I want toror movie so bad.
I had your movie. I've alwayswanted to make a horror movie so
bad. I have so many goodideas that you can use that one if
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you want for anybody else but Estin. Okay. It was later discovered that
the driver, a local woman whowas under the influence of a number of
drugs that says, had intentionally hitthe three children after being forcibly separated from
her own kids, So that's whathappened. The case later made headlines throughout
Britain, with the woman eventually takento a psychiatric hospital. Yeah, I'm
(28:00):
sure she was treated well there,I'm sure from the fifties the calm her
down here. Take this following.Okay, so remember earlier before I read
it, I said that there's kindof two sides to it. So we're
going to get into that following thedeath of Joanna and Jacqueline, the girl's
(28:21):
parents, John and Florence Pollock,were devastated, right, Yeah, But
when Florence later fell pregnant, Johnbecame convinced that the two girls would be
reborn into the family as twins.So he didn't he didn't know if he
didn't, he just Oh, I'mpregnant. I bet they're going to be
twins. I'm convinced, which forthe fifties is like they would really there's
(28:41):
no ultrasounds, nothing, Okay,so I think they get that little they
gets a little knee hammer on thehitter and the timmy or something. Do
you see how many feet? Idon't know. I mean that sounds plausible
medical school. There was blood lettinginvolved. Reincarnated, that's a whole podcast.
(29:06):
Yeah. The couple, who weredevout Catholics, often argued over the
premise of reincarnation. Imagine arguing overthat like constantly, No, No,
that's a waste of time, absolutely, with Florence strongly rejecting John's beliefs.
So apparently I'll probably say this later, but apparently John was really reincarnation.
Okay, so it sounds like shewasn't, but he was so maybe he
(29:29):
was on projecting the entire time.It was later reported that the couple's entire
marriage was even threatened as a result, with Florence almost filing divorce, which
I guess is sort of a bigdeal for like Catholic, you know well
and Catholic yea, yeah, youdon't want to go down on that.
You just suffer through. There wasalso no history, okay, so this
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is interesting. There's no history oftwins in either parents family, and Florence's
doctor had predicted a single birth,meaning of course he predicts it with he's
got like a cigarett hanging out ofhis talking it's like moving no covered in
blood, you know, meaning thelike blood letting somebody, welcome to the
(30:14):
fifties. Meaning the likelihood of twinswas low against a genetic usually yeah right,
yeah, I think like if youhave twins and it's like more against
all odds. However, Florinsky birthto twin girls on October fourth, nineteen
fifty eight. The twins were namedJillian and Jennifer. While the twins were
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identical, the pair had different birthmarks, which is considered considered highly unusual,
and had a small birthmark on herleft hip, which maybe a birthmark that
Jacqueline had. She also had abirthmark on her forehead which was similar to
a small scar that Jacqueline had inthe same spot. When the twins were
three months old, the family relocatedto Whitley Bay, which was east of
Axum. It's getting worse loud,I'm gonna have to edit that out.
(31:03):
It's like east of As the girlsgot it's egregiously edited out. As the
girls got older, however, itbecame clear that Jillian, so they so
they've moved. So they're three monthsold and they've moved. They relocated to
a different town. As the girlsgot older, however, it became clear
that Gillian and Jennifer seemed to rememberXum, I can't. I'm not gonna
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do anymore in detail, despite notgrowing up in this small town. When
the family returned to Hexham when thegirls were four, So they've left and
they come back four years later,the twins pointed out and named landmarks they
hadn't seen before, such as theschool Joanna and Jacqueline had attended, the
Hexham Abbey and a playground there,and they're like, oh, it's school.
(31:47):
God cool, that's incredible. Howdid you do it? Oh my
god, Joe Jack. It's likea small town with one school school heavens
reincarnation is uh and the playground thatsee sisters loved. The pair even seemed
(32:09):
to know the playground. Can wego on the swings? Oh my god?
Oh my god, kids swings too? They talking about a slide?
Shut up. The pair even seemedto know the way to the playground without
having ever seen it. Gets intothe playground like visual like. They probably
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there's also like and they were drivinginto town they saw it, and then
they went to their house that waslike a block away, and they're like,
oh, I remember the plug playgroundis and then they turned walk back.
There probably also signs, you know, well, they probably can't read.
You can figure out how big thistown is. Okay, one school,
one playground. Oh. Likewise,the twins were also o god.
(32:54):
Likewise, the twins were also ableto identify their late sisters toys by name.
What is the there's a Teddy Bearthere? That was joanness Teddy Bear
toy train. Jacqueline loved the train. They're just naming things, Okay.
The next part is kind of creepy. Okay, although Florence. The mom
had stored the late girls toys outof sight, so she's stored them away.
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The twins started to ask for certaintoys back. In fact, it
was almost as if the twins rememberedthe toys as their own, so they
didn't Yeah, they didn't know theyexisted, like, oh, I want
It wasn't pointing down, it wasin front of their face, right apparently.
Yeah, okay, can you getthat steam engine train out of the
storage in the garage? I wouldlove to play with that Teddy rexpend Is
(33:43):
there a stretch of Armstrong with these? Or my Glowworm from the eighties?
Now? Wait, did we havea glow something we talk about glow room
in an old episode? That soundsfamiliar. Probably, Oh was it?
It wasn't hell Razor or something.I don't think. I don't know,
sorry, but then it sounds likesomething we talked about. Yeah, glow
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Worm, Strawberry Shortcake, you know, all the cool Yeah. As they
were able to name their toys bytheir names previously given to them. Oh
so that's kind of weird. SoI guess like the original I can't remember
the two girls names, but theynamed it was Joe and Jack. Okay,
Joe Jack, Joe Jack named theirtoys and then the new ones children
children, We're like, oh,that's Billy the so like if let's say
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name. Let's say Joe had adoll and she named it bet got it.
Then Jill could go like, hey, where's my Betty doll? That's
weird. They also referred to thefact that the toys came from Santa Claus,
which was true. Yeah, ohI have Oh, I have more
pictures okay. Florence Jesus also noticedthat the twins had very similar personalities.
(34:54):
Okay, whatever, who goes?I actually, do you want to see
the pictures? I lied, I'mintrigued. Are they in black and white?
Are they creepy? They're like cpa tone. Oh no, it's
potentially worse. It's way worse.These kids are going right at it.
We didn't even see they didn't exist. They're not real kids. The ghost
the ghosts. Nobody else can seethem but Flow and John. That's it.
(35:15):
It's true, okay. The parentsalso noted that the twins even enjoyed
the same games and food. Says, is they're dead, they're ghosts.
They're anything like my children. Theyeat popcorn, chicken and macaroni and cheese.
It's not real hard. That soundsamazing, is it? Oh,
it's weird. For the first fewyears of the twins' life, Florence continued
to reject John's suggestions that the pairhad been reincarnated. After finding the twins
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talking about the car accident, however, she changed her mind. On one
occasion, Florence overheard the girls playinga game where they recreated their sister's accident.
Gillian was cradling Jennifer's head, tellingher, the blood's coming out of
your eyes. That's where the carhit you. Okay, I hate that.
Okay, I have a question becausewhat I mean these kids are dark
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demon you're fifty Okay, that's thesame one. She's evil. The other
one's kind of smiling but not really. They're not okay, Jill is pissed.
I just and also fuck them fornaming Jillian with a G. Because
they've got Joanna and Jacqueline and thenJillian, and they're like they weren't cool
(36:25):
like they are now, like namingkids and having like a G or a
J. Maybe it wasn't allowed today sound. On another occasion, Gillian
pointed to Jennifer's birthmark on her foreheadand told her that is the mark Jennifer
got when she fell on a bucket. How does one fall in a bucket?
That's a great point. I'm tellingyou. It's because they're ghosts.
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They're ghosts. They're haunting the house. They don't real they aren't really exist.
They just they're here to terrorize usand upset us with somebody talking about
this accident. And they were justlike, people have a shrine to Joe
Jack and there's like articles and stuff. There's gotta be well, I don't
know what in like in the fifties, what do they have? They had
the like newspaper articles, right,I don't know. I would think,
(37:07):
so, okay, what do Iknow about the fifties? Nothing? Nothing,
Besides some of the fashion was kindof cute. So it's not in
this article. But there was anotherarticle that I saw that was like sort
of the other half of the storywhere people who are like I don't believe
in reincarnation or whatever will bring upI guess it doesn't say to here,
but I remember seeing some of that. They had brothers or something, and
(37:28):
the brothers were like the theory isthat they were like telling the little girls.
Yeah, yeah, and then Ifeel like I feel like that's kind
of that route. And yeah Ithink I saw that someone. We think
that's more plausible than them being deadand ghosts. And before you answer,
but before you answer, just lookat this picture ghosts ghostly dead. Yeah,
(37:49):
I see the ghost dead ghosts,but the brothers don't even see them.
It's just Flow and John and Well. The brothers are like, fuck,
these people are crazy. I'm justgonna go along with it. So
they're like, yeah, I seethem, let's go play together. Yeah,
that's exactly what's happening. But iftheir brothers are like sock puppets and
they're like, oh do you rememberwhen genius to do that? Oh my
(38:14):
god, they're whispering amongst each other. So what do you think real or
no? I want to say no, no, I think knows the safe
choice. Yeah, but I do. I do believe in reincarnation, but
I feel like I hope for reincarnationfor sure. Yeah, I just I
don't know. It's hard to saybecause especially with it being the fifties,
(38:37):
like nobody believes anything like mental healthor the like that, like these people
like genuinely have experienced so much traumaand PTSD and like they need help.
So who knows they're seeing experiencing,hoping for projecting, Like nobody knows.
I would hope to be even increnationtoo. I think there is something beautiful
(38:57):
to it. Absolutely, but it'sso hard to say that anything that happened
in the fifties. No, absolutely, Like God, I don't know what
about Anthony, the little minder aboy? What about his family? Well,
that's what I'm wondering, Like thenyou happened to him? Like how
is it just those two girls?He survived? But the other piece of
(39:19):
it too, was like how thedad was obsessed with reincarnation. That's a
projection of it. And of coursethe wife what's her name? She had?
Are weird? She got it?Well, you have a weird brain.
We've already discussed that. I thinkwe all agree, don't we.
Yeah? Okay, well that wasfun like that one? Yeah, good
(39:40):
job? Can you picked the nextone? Okay? Alright, so we
have time for a pyramid scheme thatwas one from last week. Or I'm
a man who discovered the wheel andbuilt the Eiffel Tower out of metal and
bron that's what kind of man Iam. You're just a woman with a
small brain, but a brain athird the size of us. It's science.
(40:00):
Ron, Uh what, I don'twatch movies. I have the Blue
eight you can borrow if you want, but I don't have to play your
laptop. I don't have a thinkmy thing. We're gonna watch it after
this, all right? What doyou think, corny? Number one or
number three? Hie for a pyramidscheme or the Ron Burgundy soliloquy you say
(40:23):
about the pyramid scheme one last week? I like the pyramid scheme. I
like them both. I'm gonna gowith number one pyramid scheme, forcing me
to have to say all that shipagain. Yes, okay, this one's
(40:46):
a little confusing, great, readyconfusing. You just have to listen a
little bit. Here's the here's thetagline. Cleopatra, the one from Egypt.
Right to be confused other ones.I didn't know. Maybe there's like
a musical artist or something called me. Now call me now Cleopatra, not
(41:10):
to be confused with Cleo? Right, got it? Yeah? What what
happened? That's it? I wonderwhat happened with Cleo? I don't know
she's still alive. Call me now, can you goog it? Yeah,
yeah, give it a goog.Miss Cleo is up to I'm sure she
probably went to prison for the shipshe was pulling. Wow, well,
isn't this appropriate. I don't thinkyou know what a pyramid scheme is.
(41:40):
I'm confusing things. Dear listener,if you've been a victim of a pyramid
scheme, please comment below and letus know what happened. Oh, I'm
sure you're all kinds of stories.There are some true crime things that I've
listened to where it has like Ithink it was Lulaoe. There was the
whole thing. Yeah, the wholebird made off thing is fascinating. There's
(42:00):
a I think it's on Netflix orsomething. They've got like a documentary on
him. I think we watched it. It's fascinating. Just like I he
got like, I don't know,one hundred years in prison or something,
and I was like, wow,I can't believe he had such a harsh
sentence. And then when you watchyou're like, oh my god, You're
like, what a dude fucked overso many people for billions of dollars.
I'm not really sure why the firstpart of this Miss Cleo thing is necessary
(42:22):
to it? Oh okay, becauseit says, basically, she passed away
in twenty sixteen. She had cancerand she went into a hospice and then
she died in pomb Beach, Florida. But the first part is in two
thousand and six, she came outas a lesbian. Who cares? What
does that to do with what happenedto Miss Cleo? How do we get
her cancer? Like it do withanything? What do you do? What
(42:45):
does it get to get that?I said, what happened to Miss Cleo?
And then it says in two thousandand six she came out lesbian Asian?
What happened to her? She saidthat she developed cancer and then she
died under hospice careen Palm Beach,Florida, in July twenty sixth. He's
sixteen at the age of fifty three. Wow yeah wow hashtag hashtag ip there's
(43:08):
a movie about her? Really?Yeah? She's she died in pump Beach,
Florida, So she was a Floridian. Wow, Well that makes sense.
An eye opening documentary, The Risein the Fall of cleon of television
Psychic Miss Cleo. Oh, Ihave to watch that it's on max.
(43:28):
It says, wow, she's famous. I mean she is famous and twenty
two I guess oh wow, okayhashtag ad okay, okay, Well it
was a fun little rabbit hole,all right. So clear Cleopatra lived closer
(43:49):
in time to the first iPhone thanto the building of the Great Pyramids.
Wait so that again. Wait aminute, Yeah, Cleopatra lived closer in
time to the first iPhone then tothe building of the Great Pyramids. Really,
so if you had a timeline yetthe Great Pyramids on one side and
the iPhone on the other, shelived closer to the iPhone than she did
(44:10):
the Great Pyramids. That really mybrain. That really does for me is
you know what, and we've donethese before where I don't know where the
time wise we haven't done it,but I've done it in general where people
are talking about like it's weird,like messes with your mind when you have
two different time time slots. Yeah, okay, go ahead. Sorry.
(44:30):
The Great Pyramids of Egypt are old, and that's it. So that well
you're supposed to say how old Ihaven't actually I haven't In parentheses is how
old are We'll really get into it. It's in the script. Well it's
in the scrap. We don't havea script. The Great Pyramids of Egypt
are old? How are they?Should you do at the same time,
(44:55):
A yeah, yeah, alright,ready, yeah, action. The Great
Pyramids of Egypt are old? Howold? Day do we do it?
Do we do it? Well?Yeah? And match what I have here,
So that nailed it. Cleopatra livedfrom sixty nine BC nice to thirty
BC, so about two thousand yearsago. Well, the Great Pyramids of
(45:20):
Giza were constructed around twenty five eightyto twenty five sixty BC, making them
roughly forty five hundred years old.This means clear Patrick lived closer in time
to the release of the first iPhonein two thousand and seven, which is
approximately twenty thirty seven years after herdeath, than the building of the pyramids.
Wow, that's interesting. Do youwant to hear another a little bit?
(45:43):
Sure? Is that the lead infor anything? You have to respond
to anything? You want to respond? We will try our best. Okay,
okay, Oh you're not gonna respondto what I just said? Oh
what did that? You're asking whathe said? Okay. Additionally, so
this is the second part. Okay, what happened in the second part.
(46:05):
Additionally, it's interesting to note thatduring the time when the Pyramids were being
built, wooly mammoths were still inexistence. Okay, that's really fucking my
brain up. Yeah. They didn'tbecome extinct until around sixteen fifty BC,
which is several hundred years after theconstruction of the Pyramids. This means that
for a period, the builders ofthe Pyramids and wooly mammoths shared the earth.
(46:27):
They were get out of my way. They were helping build the pyramids.
Hey, okay, okay, maybemaybe I like that. I mean,
we're in the same area the heartmammoths would be in Egypt. That's
my thought too. It's like they'rereally wooly, you know, we learned
that. Oh they sheared them andthey made clothes out of their first he
(46:49):
got like blankets and study. Ohthat's fine. Then they be shivering because
they're not. It doesn't get itdoesn't get cold at night in the desert,
you know what I mean. Yeah, absolutely, when you never know,
because you know that there are differentanimals that are basically the same in
different areas of the country, differentcountries, you know, Pangaea, that
(47:12):
whole thing. Oh, continue I'msorry. What because when the theory of
all of the continents were like connected, that's why it makes sense that they
were like saring things, see thehand shaking and shifting and separating, and
now they're all separated. Okay,that's less because Cordy was saying that there's
(47:34):
animals in different places, because animalsin different places, that's true. Yes,
the same animals in different places.So my point is that if they
all used to be like one bigland, sure like separated, they can't
be like oh bye, like youknow, their neighbor's gone floating away.
Yeah, so they had to adapt, so has as they progressed as a
(47:54):
creature, they had to evolve evolution, bitch. How oh so do you
think that when it split off thewooly mammoths, they're like you know,
yeah, they're like peace and theybecame elephants absolutely interesting, all their hair
fill out, They got me?Or do we think that whenever they shaved
the mammoths stopped growing? Yeah,yeah, because of like evolution and like
(48:19):
the survival of the Yeah, butyou didn't say you didn't connect. Okay,
first of all, So anyway,what do you guys think about that
topic? That's pretty good profitable.Anyway, let me go ahead. I'm
gonna go ahead and meet you.And then when Corney backed it up,
you were like, Okay, Ican get on the evolution. I don't
care. I kept talking anyway,talking, picked up on your guys mic
(48:44):
stop. Okay, I just wantto say, yes, I think you
were backing up my evolution statements.I appreciate it absolutely. Yes, there
are different animals animals. Do youthink that that's how they went extinct?
Is they got crushed by the pyramids, by the survival the fittest. I'm
(49:05):
just couldn't Adaptolf just saying when peoplecan't evolve, that's what happens. Peace
out. Sorry, Now we gotnaked only mammots running around, and I
bet some of them came like gotkind of mean. They became bully mammoths.
Whoa, maybe that's like a bullMaybe no, And they like they
(49:30):
have like the bully mammoths and theirwhips. They're like getting the other whips
well with the trunk. Maybe that'sall I have with watch No, okay,
that is giving us a look.I'm smiling, Okay, Okay,
(49:52):
that's all I have. Okay,Okay, So what do we have next
week? What's the one that wehave when we have next week? It's
to carry over it again. I'ma man who discovered the wheel and built
the Eiffel Tower out of metal andbrown. That's what kind of man I
am. You're just a woman witha small brain, with a brain a
third the size of us. It'sscience. Sixty percent of time works every
(50:14):
time. Yeah. I love that. It makes sense. It sure does.
Yeah. All right, well,good stuff, Well done, Dustin,
well done. Yeah you did itagain, you did it again through
Yeah, okay, so next you'vegot two more topics on top of ron
Burgundy, so that'll be interesting.Mm hmmmm. And check out macva m
(50:37):
A c k A v A dotcom. Wow, check out We're true
and we're true crime. We aretrue crime. Give them a listen,
check out their stuff. Support themon Patreon there on patreon right, support
them everywhere too. Yeah. Absolutelytheir podcast friends m hm. And and
they did really some really cool stufflike they've did. Sorry, don't mean
no good. We just put outan interview with If you're familiar with Wor
(51:00):
Murray, they just did an interviewwith her sister and Julie Murray. I
Think is her name, and it'sa two parter and it's done really really
well, so they like cover thecase and then they sort of sprinkle in
parts of the interview into the wholedifferent perspective. Yeah. Yeah, So
Julie was really excited about how itcame out. It just comes out and
(51:21):
came out fantastic. So check thatout. If you're interested in kind of
hearing that perspective and you are anotherpodcast and you're interested in some consultations or
podcast help or editing haliber Night that, reach out to Dustin. Do you
do audio and you can help youout there too. I've done it a
long time. He's basically a bro. Yeah, well he's managed our ship
show for guys, we sound goodbecause of Dustin. It would be a
(51:45):
complete hit show. No serious.Can you imagine one of us doing that?
No, I don't think it wouldhave lasted long. We would have
been like, did we not recordany of them? You didn't press you
didn't press record. It's like,well, to be fair, we're talking
into hair brush. It was notmicrophone. We have to buy microphone.
What's his cord? Go to?We only not recorded a couple of times.
(52:08):
We did pretty good honestly. OverYeah, the last three years or
so, there's I think maybe twoepisodes that got a little bit weird screwed
up or had weird audio. Therewas one that we there was one that
we recorded and we just never releasedit. Oh that was the Omen.
Oh ye see thing we did.We did classic horror movie. Yeah,
(52:30):
and then we recorded the OMEN,which we were both angry about anyway,
because the movie was like fifteen hours. Yeah, it was so long,
and it was it was the longerthan Rosemar's Baby. Oh god, it
was probably pretty close that one was. It was just long and it was
great, yeah, and it wasn'tscary. It was just like stupid.
I don't even know if I evenedited. I don't think we know,
(52:50):
because the audio was so bad.And then like and then we heard it
and then we both were so madthat we're like fuck it. Well and
yeah, because at first, Iman, We're like, oh shit,
we just record like two hours recordingon it, and then we were like
no, we're not recording it again, and we don't want to go through
the game. I think there turnedoff or something and it was like a
computer audio interface or something like that. Yeah, but we were like the
(53:10):
funny parts were just because we hatedon it, were recreate that again.
So we're just done. We movedon. We omitted it. There was
also another one that we that youguys recorded that I just never edited,
and it just sort of stayed therefor like months and months and years,
and then one day I was like, I think you guys couldn't record,
Like, well, I'll just dothis one and we put it out.
It was like, I don't rememberwhich one was. It was a Netflix
and I can't watch it was either. And there was one of a time
(53:32):
too that we got weird audio andwe re recorded and the second time came
up bat in the first time.Yeah, so it worked out that was
an old one that was back inthe day. Yeah. So those are
always fun episodes to listen to me. Yeah. Sorry, we're getting a
little we're getting a little nostalgia.Yeah, Okay, everyone, have a
great day.
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