December 9, 2025 • 39 mins
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"You make money on the buy." That's the philosophy that took Ivan Katz from a $900 1970 Chevelle Malibu convertible to a 29-car collection — and why he says "eventually, things own you."
In this episode, Drivin' Ivan shares how growing up in his grandfather's car radio shop in Alexandria shaped his obsession with cars that handle. Why his first Lancia Zagato ended in the worst car fire the local fire department had ever seen — and why he came back for another one. How he compares his 1978 Porsche 928 to a "German Corvette" while the actual C3 "should be ashamed." And the unexpected way that Chevelle became his "Ferrari fund."
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SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
Welcome back to Listener Land.
You have found again two all thecars I've loved before, your
authoritative podcast onAutomotive Nostalgia, where
every car tells a story, everycar has a culture, and that
means it's time to plug in dustoff and get a little grease
under your nails and slip onthat favorite oil-stained car
(00:27):
themed t-shirt.
And I'm I have kind of uh uh I'mhere in the panhandle of Florida
wearing a collar that makes meformal in these environments,
but my broadcasting partner hereseems to have a quite a springy
t-shirt here.
What you got there?
Right, Greg?
You're summoning the flowers andbees.
SPEAKER_02 (00:47):
Yeah, so this is for uh from I purchased it online
from Fresha Brothers AntiqueVolkswagen Repair in I don't
know, since the 1950s.
Greenwich.
Greenwich, Connecticut.
Greenwich, Connecticut.
Or is it Stanford?
SPEAKER_00 (01:02):
Yeah.
Oh, it's Greenwich, Connecticut.
It's all my what a fantasticshirt.
Yeah.
Fresha Brothers, F-R-E-C-C-I-A.
Look them up.
So if you're in the inConnecticut, in that area, they
they they do it all fromupholstery to tops.
They'll rip it apart, put itback together.
SPEAKER_04 (01:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
All things air-cooled, and just a little
quick trivia, maybe not trivia,but yeah, they they got started
repairing Volkswagens when theywere one of the original repair
repair places, right near theVolkswagen dealer in Greenwich.
It's her dad, right?
(01:42):
Didn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
No, her oh her the grandparents made mistakes.
SPEAKER_02 (01:45):
Yeah, yeah, grandparents.
I think the Fresh Brothersbusiness has been around for
over a hundred years.
I think they got startedpainting wagons.
Wow.
Strong wagons, something likethat.
Way back.
So the the the old cars.
SPEAKER_00 (02:02):
So yeah, I'd like to have a full buggy restoration.
Uh new horse and yeah, onehorsepower, please.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Well, now it's all air-cooled.
So Volkswagen horses themselveswere air cooled, from what I
know.
SPEAKER_00 (02:13):
But yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
I've heard I've heard tomorrow.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Tomorrow, if you're listening tothis, depending on when you're
listening to this, but on April1st, we are gonna have that
great interview with GuinevereFresh, third or fourth
generation of that family.
And she runs all the socialmedia for that family and that
(02:35):
business.
SPEAKER_00 (02:36):
And you're not you're not playing an April
Fool's joke on us here withthat, with that.
Uh nope, it's you better not be.
We can't joke about that.
Now Guinevere is not an AprilFool.
No, she's the best, she's theApril Queen.
Now, have you been in contactwith her?
Because we interviewed her sometime ago, and I know y'all kind
of kept in touch.
She's really been a great friendof the show.
SPEAKER_02 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Just just more on social mediaposts.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
So, like you said.
SPEAKER_02 (03:05):
Yeah.
I did drop her a note yesterdayjust letting her know that we're
gonna air her episode tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00 (03:10):
Yeah, and she handles all the media for that
company and does a fantasticjob.
Check them out, Frisia Brothers,Google them.
And I did want to pivot quickly,welcome new listeners, as we
like to say we're heard aroundthe world.
Paris, welcome to our listenersin Paris.
I think that's a relatively newmarket.
Welcome to our listeners inJakarta, British Columbia,
(03:32):
Quebec, bienvenue.
Oslo, Islamabad, and Naples.
So all over the world, and asyou might imagine, uh, environs
around me in Florida, near Doug,in the Mid-Atlantic.
Uh also some places inCalifornia, the Midwest.
So welcome back.
It's great to have all of you.
And we're trying to read somereviews.
(03:52):
Let's see.
Let me pull some of thesereviews from the new website.
Oh, yeah.
And I know you want to squeezein some of the projects that
you've been working on.
You've test driven a few carsrecently, but you know, I had a
review up here that I wanted toread.
Oh, George P says, let me findit.
If you go to our website,carslove.com, carsloved.com.
(04:14):
We have reviews and in Dougworked to get the is it we
totally redid the website.
And Doug redid it so all thesereviews just kind of scroll by
when you're on, which is reallyneat.
So here we had one.
The review carousel.
The review carousel.
It's got horses and unicorns.
You'll love it.
From George P says, Adam'sepisode was my favorite, mostly
(04:37):
because I know him, and ofcourse he is Adam.
Joanne S says, I checked outyour site and podcast.
Excellent job.
My boss supporting your info toa well-connected man in LA who
happens to love cars.
Smiley emoji.
We take it where we can get it.
And then I see previous guestsand in some that I that I don't
know leaving reviews.
(04:57):
But I love what you've done withthe website.
If you haven't checked it out,welcome back.
And uh please do to give it alook.
So I want to uh toss it to youbefore we bring in today's
guest.
Are there any new updates on anyof the social media stuff, the
tech stuff you've been workingon with the website, and or car
(05:19):
projects that you've beenworking on?
You can take them in reverseorder, just pick one.
SPEAKER_02 (05:27):
So car stuff, given that it now it's getting warm in
Maryland.
That's right.
Sherry Lawson.
My DeLorean has been up in NewJersey for a couple weeks.
Transmission work, and the guysfixed a bunch of different
things, and it's it's kind offunny, these guys they're like,
Yeah, basically, our job is toundo what previous owners have
(05:49):
done.
So they're like, Why is it setlike this?
I'm like, so-and-so told me todo it.
Why is it set like this?
So and so a different persontold me to do it, and they're
like, Yeah, we're gonna set allthose back to factory, and then
you're good.
So hope to get it back soon inthe next couple weeks.
My 1990 300 ZX, which was mydream car in high school that I
(06:13):
didn't own.
I bought it 30 years later,which has been sitting in my
garage for a couple years, fivedifferent colors.
I got motivated.
I'm putting a new starter in it.
And the plan is to have one ofour previous guests, Matt Pratt,
who has Top Coat Garage, isgonna paint it for me.
(06:34):
And I'm super excited.
We're gonna go from it wasoriginally black, now it's about
five different colors, and we'regonna go to silver.
SPEAKER_00 (06:42):
The Z of many colors.
Yeah, I think they made aBroadway music musical out of
it.
I want to buy a car that's justbeat up with a destroyed finish,
just to bring to that guy.
Interviewing him was sointeresting.
I think at one point I just Ijust lost all sense of time and
script when he started speakingabout the paint process and all
(07:02):
the wonderful.
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
Well, you you asked some great questions.
Um I can't wait for that episodeto come out.
Go live.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Yeah, that and that's a good point, too, is
that if those of us out therethat have podcasts, you know, uh
so we Doug and I took last monthoff, it was very busy, but we
have a whole bunch of thingsqueued up, right?
And so they're waiting to go.
So even though we interviewedWinavere a while ago, her
episode is dropping tomorrow.
Of course, you'll hear this atsome time in the future.
(07:30):
So yeah, it's good to be back.
Good to be back.
Speaking of, I think it's timeto bring in today's very special
guest, Doug.
So could you get give us alittle bit of a primer on how he
came into your life?
SPEAKER_02 (07:43):
Sure.
Well, let's see.
We could probably thank socialmedia, I think between Facebook,
probably a Facebook group thatI'm a member of called Katie's
Cars and Coffee, which you and Iattended, but we got there too
late a couple weeks ago, andeverything was gone.
(08:03):
I found this gentleman, IvanKatz, who lives in the Maryland,
DC, Virginia area.
And uh turns out he also has anawesome YouTube channel called
Drive in Ivan, and he reviewsall kinds of awesome cars and
different people and goes goesto those big car shows, car
shows big and small, and he'sjust everywhere.
(08:26):
He owns, I don't know, 30 cars.
He and he comes from a carfamily.
And the thing I love, maybe it'sjust me thinking about you know,
people being separated, sixdegrees of separation, is his
grandfather had a car radiobusiness in Alexandria.
His grandfather was Morse Katz,and it was Morse Katz and Sons.
(08:49):
And my grandfather's name wasMorris Katsif, and he sold
radios for cars because cars wayback when didn't come with
radios.
Sure.
Ivan is all that true.
I don't know when by the waythey're coming with it, but they
were optional for sure,especially on the early ones.
So I feel there's someconnection there, and we both
(09:11):
love cars.
Ivan, welcome aboard.
SPEAKER_03 (09:15):
Wow, thank you so much for having me, you two.
This is awesome.
And then thanks for that kindintroduction.
And yeah, my granddad's mottowas ever since there were car
stereos.
So, you know, moving on to Iguess when they opened the
business in the 60s, you know,cars came with radio, some
didn't, like you said, but youknow, we got a lot of cars from
(09:38):
everywhere on Porsche's, youknow, people could drop their
car off, head into DC for theirjob on the metro, come back, get
a new interior, or get a newradio, or get their radio
repaired.
We repaired radios, crazy stuff.
Yeah, and you know, I'll I'llthrow in a little celebrity
thing.
One day I was in there, and thislady happened to travel with a
(10:01):
recorder, and it broke on her.
And they said, Where do I go tofix this?
Mara's Cats and Sons.
And Alice from the Brady Bunchwas in there.
No way.
I don't know if you guys knewwho that is.
Maybe that's after your time.
Very fantastic.
Alice from the Brady Bunch waskind of famous.
So to see her.
SPEAKER_00 (10:17):
Very good.
What kind of car did Alice have?
SPEAKER_03 (10:20):
You guys don't understand.
You know, there were only acertain number of TV shows back
then.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
I'm not as young as I look, so yeah.
I I I do remember Alice.
Maybe it was maybe it was inreruns.
SPEAKER_02 (10:30):
We're closer in age to you than you realize.
SPEAKER_03 (10:33):
All right, that's good.
That's good.
SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
But but uh, what kind of car did Alice have?
SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
Well, she didn't, you know, it was she was
probably getting driven becauseshe was in town for something or
something else.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Had a gotcha, a recorder and itwas broken.
I mean, they could fix anything,they really could.
My dad could fix anything.
My dad could put on aconvertible top if he wanted to.
The only thing I ever did, Iknow you're gonna ask me about
my first car.
One day on a Sunday, my dadcould fix anything.
(10:59):
And my car was not runningright.
And one day on a Sunday, we wentthere and we went to track
audit.
It was closed on a Sunday.
And he said, Ivan, you see thesehands?
And I said, Yeah.
He says, they're clean andthey're gonna stay clean because
you're gonna do this.
I put in the water pump in my1970 Chevelle Malibu convertible
with a 307 and a Rochestercarburetor that nobody could
(11:22):
tune.
And so that was my first car.
1970 Chevelle MalibuConvertible.
SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
And I believe pictures of this car are
embedded in at least one, if notmore, of your videos.
I think.
SPEAKER_03 (11:35):
Though, what does drive an Ivan drive is a very
funny, you know, it's a verythat's a funny video because
it's the first one I did.
But yes, yes, yes.
There is also, I didn't tell youthis story, maybe it's a good
one.
In Old Town, Alexandria, therewere parades, and we all had
convertibles.
My dad was like, my my my dadhad a yeah, we all had
Cadillacs.
My granddad was obsessed withCadillacs, so we had a 70 Coupe
(11:58):
de Ville convertible andturquoise with white leather
that I took my driver's test in.
And my mom had a 66 Dodge Dartconvertible, and she, you know,
that was a very cool car.
We would drive it in the parade.
I drove that car in the parade,and our dignitary did not show
up that day.
We we driven in so many parades.
My mom, my brother, went andpicked up Art Monk, the Redskins
(12:18):
player at his house.
Oh wow, he was a big Redskinsfan, so he was thrilled to do
that.
But that day, no dignitaryshowed up.
And I drove that white DodgeDart.
It was my absolute FerrisBueller moment because I drove
it.
I was like, I said I had twopretty girls, my friends back
then, and I said, You on theback, wait, you sit next to me.
(12:40):
And we just drove right throughthe parade.
And I that video is on YouTube.
Search the drive and Ivan 1966Dodge Dart or Old Town Parade.
It's so funny because theannouncer doesn't have any idea
what's going on.
And I got to drive through aparade with no dignitary, and
the car is hilarious.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
But anyway, so another Alexandria story.
Where did that first car comefrom?
Oh, did I jump in front of you,Doug?
Did you drop in something?
That was the same question I wasgonna ask.
Reading your mind, samewavelength.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
Well, again, this is an interesting story about the
business too, because somebodycame in.
I think at the time, a new top,a new top on a car was like$700,
$900.
Yeah.
And the guy came in with thisChevelle, and he was like, I
could sell it for that.
I I I'm not gonna spend seven ornine hundred dollars on the car,
I could sell it for that.
(13:29):
And it was, I think my dad or myuncle, somebody bought the car,
and my dad drove it home.
And it was it was a sky blue, itwas a light blue at that time.
And by the time I had it, Ipainted it a little dark or
whatever.
I did a lot of stuff too,totally ruined it.
And the selling of it was a goodstory too.
But anyway, it was driven home,and my dad was like, Oh, you're
(13:50):
never gonna have this car.
I I I was given the car prettypretty quickly after that.
Yeah, I needed it.
So uh yeah, it was my first car,and it was bought from a
customer probably for somewherearound seven or nine hundred
dollars.
1970 Chevelle Malibu convertible307, you know, but still, how
much is it worth today, right?
Yeah, how much do they sell itfor?
(14:11):
That's the question.
SPEAKER_02 (14:12):
Yeah, not a not a bad car for a teenager.
SPEAKER_03 (14:15):
Yeah, it was it was pretty cool, you know.
Uh convertibles are cool.
I love convertibles, and we hadthem.
Yep, my brother didn't mybrother didn't like them, and he
had a uh Plymouth satellite,like from the uh B-52s, Planet
Claire.
Also drove satellite big as awhale.
Yeah, that one.
Well, that's another song.
That's yeah, that's Love Shack.
(14:38):
But yeah, so uh and they hadboth my brothers had Vegas, so
to Vegas, and you know, I got todrive Pintos, I got to drive
Yugos.
I mean, I drove a Pinto veryearly.
I mean, that was one of my firstcars driving.
SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Now, when did you I don't want to hop in front of
Doug here?
That's okay.
You got the bug for Europeancars pretty quickly.
So, how how did that happen?
Was it were you a student ofdesign?
Was it uh happenstance?
SPEAKER_03 (15:09):
I did my homework and I saw you guys, you you guys
have an RX7 video out there,don't you?
You just recently did a podcaston an RX7 or something like
that.
Or you covered the RX7, right?
Yep, yep.
And even the Z car that you weretalking about.
But when I was really little, Iwas in the car and I was at it's
(15:29):
still there, the seminary roadin 395 exit and entrance to the
highway.
Or so it's a roundabout, andthat is when I saw a guy in
probably a 70s RX 7, it probablyhad just come out, and he was
about to enter the southbound395, and he was in an RX7, you
(15:51):
know, five-speed manual,obviously.
He chucked it sideways and justtook off.
I mean, it was a beautiful, itwasn't even, I wouldn't even say
it was a drift.
He just, you know, he just threwit sideways and took off.
It was beautiful.
And I was like, I think the carsthat my dad was driving, and you
know, the American cars we weredriving were super cool, and I
grew up with them.
(16:11):
But I wanted to do that.
I want to drive sideways.
I loved one of my favoritethings to do is drive a car on
the edge.
I I'm very fortunate to livenear twisty roads, and I could
take one, two, three cars up aday within five, ten minutes.
Uh I can experience somemagnificent driving.
(16:32):
And that was the first car thatshowed me the way.
I mean, uh, RX7 is an incrediblehandling car.
You gotta, it's the 70s.
And you know, American cars, ifyou threw them sideways like
that, the body roll, you know,it was only in like chips and
like you know, the shows wewatched back then that could be
(16:52):
driven like that becauseotherwise we're bouncing back
and forth and just you know, youwould lose it because the
suspension was so loose.
And again, there's a place forthat.
I love uh Cadillac suspension ora Lincoln suspension from back
in the day.
But I at that point was sointrigued by a car that could
handle like that, it wasincredible.
(17:13):
Like your Z car, your 90 Z caragain.
I don't know if yours is a turboor not a turbo, not non-turbo.
Okay, but still, that's I droveone of those very early on, and
man, you could get that thingloose very easily.
It had a lot of torque, yeah,right?
SPEAKER_02 (17:28):
Well, especially if it's been raining, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
It's really good in the rain, but they're they're
wonderful driving cars, andthat's what the Z car did.
I mean, a neighbor had an early70s.
I I started, you know, I Iremember the first Z car showing
up.
I remember the first Mazda Miatathat a four-star admiral that
lived on my street had.
I remember that.
It was paradigm shifting.
(17:53):
I mean, you know, all the allthese kids and everybody that
loves Miadas and everything now,and they love to trick them out
and do this and do that.
Just to stock Miata, havingsomething reliable like a Z car,
an RX 7, it was generally morereliable than an MG or a triumph
or a you know, considering.
Yeah, I've always been one fortrouble.
(18:14):
And you know, these cars.
That's why my daily driver is afreeus, honestly.
I love the video that's afreeus, the best car in the
world.
SPEAKER_00 (18:23):
Now, you know, speaking of videos, all right,
let's hit pause here for a quicksecond.
Take our breath, breakneck pacethat we're going here.
I I wanna ask about all right,so the YouTube videos, if you're
not aware of Drive and Ivan'scontent, check him out on
YouTube.
So many wonderful videos.
He he he'll review a car, talkabout the cars that he owns,
(18:48):
talk about the questionseverybody wants to ask.
What are the costs associatedwith these old exotic
automobiles?
He'll go to uh uh all kinds ofcar shows.
I forget one of your videos thatwas just recently posted where
it was, but so watchable.
And the fact that you did thisprofessionally for a long time
really comes through in thequality of the videos.
And I really want ourlistenership to give it some
(19:09):
time.
Go on YouTube, check it out.
And oh, here was my question.
You talk about driving throughthese winding roads, and from
the videos that I've seen, doyou still live near there?
Because I know that you tooksome of your cars through these
winding, idyllic country roads.
I mean, it looks like an Audiad.
(19:31):
It's beautiful.
You still have access to thatsort of those environments.
SPEAKER_03 (19:35):
I like I said, I'm currently down in Florida where
the roads are not so exciting.
But uh yes, I live I live in anarea where there are very twisty
roads and it is absolutelyawesome.
It's incredible.
You know, my drive to Katie'scoffee is great.
It's just fun.
It's a little longer than itused to be when I lived in in
(19:56):
the DC area proper.
But yeah, I'm very spoiled.
It's it's gonna be hard ifsomeday when I want to, you
know, sell and and be someplacewarmer or something.
I love I love it down here, downsouth, but I am very lucky to
live where I live.
And yeah, the roads areincredible.
I can take a car or two or threeup there uh a day, and it's
(20:18):
nice.
SPEAKER_00 (20:19):
Interesting.
So so are you are yousnowbirding in a way, sometime
down here, sometime up there?
Or I'm kind of snowbirding.
I can't so jealous.
SPEAKER_03 (20:28):
You guys know what date it is.
I've been down in Florida for awhile, and I'd already been down
here once in January.
Gotcha.
But yeah, I'm down here for theAmelia, the Amelia Island.
It's called the Amelia now,Haggard is Amelia.
And they are very, you know,it's it's a great event.
It's well run.
Next year, I'll probably hit theone that's in Miami and then hit
that one.
(20:49):
So yeah, I like to get out ofthe the DC area when it's cold
because I'm just I'm like, I'mover this.
I hear you.
Yeah, totally, totally.
Being uh kind of someone whorealized a long time ago that I
was unemployable, that I had towork for myself.
Fortunately, I have the time andthe freedom to do it.
I've been into Europe, I'vedriven in Nurbergering, I drove
(21:10):
all over Ireland, I've drivenall over England, you know,
many.
I bought three cars back in thesummer of 23 from Europe, and I
just bought two more cars backfrom year England, really, in
the summer of 24.
So I I like driving a car thatnobody else drives.
SPEAKER_01 (21:29):
Yeah, you get roadless travel books, the
thumbs up.
I'm with you.
The thumbs up.
I said you get all the looks,the thumbs up, the I I picked up
my fiat barquetta from the port,and I literally within like two
minutes, someone's like, Whatwhat is that?
SPEAKER_03 (21:48):
What is so cool?
What is that?
Yeah, you know, no one knows.
And it has like the EuropeanFiat emblem, but it's not really
it's just it's fiat in America.
So the people didn't know whatit was a fiat barquetta.
And actually, I I don't want toadvertise, but I I've got to
sell some of these cars, and Ido have a fiat barquetta for
sale.
So I literally bought that carright now, it's for sale right
(22:09):
now.
SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
He I lost two.
SPEAKER_03 (22:11):
I wanted that car for the hardtop that I could put
on my car.
I have a blue fiat barquetta,you can see it.
And if you see the silver one inmy videos, the silver fiat
barquetta with the red leather,that's for sale.
And so is my Janetta G26, andmaybe my Alpina B7 BMW.
SPEAKER_00 (22:29):
Well, where can we find about uh out about these
these automobiles for sale?
We just gotta ask you, or is iton YouTube, or do you have a
sale where you do a walk around?
SPEAKER_03 (22:39):
Or sometimes they'll be on on the internet.
Gotcha.
And yeah, I'll usually put avideo up and you could contact
me on my Instagram or somethinglike that.
Drive in, it's the same as myYouTube drive in Ivan and leave
off the G, drive in Ivan Katz, IV-A-N-K-A-T-Z, and drive in
without a without a G.
And drive in Ivan Katz onInstagram, you know, whatever.
(22:59):
So the real drive and Ivan onTikTok.
SPEAKER_00 (23:02):
So love it.
Yeah, we'll get all this in theshow notes here.
And I know Doug wants to kind ofproceed with the the with the
cavalcade, the parade of yourfirst cars.
So let's talk about selling thefirst car to get into the
Lancia.
Yeah.
I didn't.
SPEAKER_03 (23:15):
I didn't sell the first car to get into the
Lancia.
I just uh I I bought the Lancia.
It's funny, I bought a I think Icould barely afford this car.
I think I paid$875 or$900 fromthe first gato and it was red.
And then I spent the money at aestablishment in the in that DC
area that I won't mentionbecause they I spent a good
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amount of money, a lot more thanI had spent for the car and
fixed everything.
And then I was driving it.
My my college girlfriend at thetime, I ran into the house and
was like, My car's on fire.
And she comes out with athimble, uh a thimble of water
to put it out.
And the the flames were shootingup like oh no, 20 feet.
The the fire department said itwas the worst car fire they ever
(24:01):
put out.
It burned.
There was a Volkswagen Jetta infront of me.
It burned that a little bit too.
Oh no, the catalytic converterseized in that first Lancia, and
it was just blown away.
So I got the insurance, and thenthere was a friend of mine who
was a dentist.
Her dad, her dad was a dentistin town.
And I said, if you ever want tosell this car, it was white.
(24:23):
And I'd I really hadn't seen awhite.
Mine was red.
There, most of them were red andblack.
There were some that were white,some were blue, some were black.
There was a special edition ofblack, but this one was white.
And I just think sports carslook good in white.
Ferraris looked good and white.
Anyway, it's a white LanciaZagato.
And one day he just called meand said, If you want it, it's
yours.
And he said$1750, I think,$1,750.
(24:47):
And it was far better than thecar I had before.
Yeah.
Because he bought it at AmericanService Center in Arlington,
Virginia, which is also aMercedes dealership.
Yep.
And it it was, I have theoriginal receipts and
everything, but$12,950, it waslike$13,000 in 1981.
That was a lot of money.
Yeah.
That was a heck of a lot ofmoney.
SPEAKER_02 (25:08):
So I bought it.
Was it uh 1981, Ivan?
SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
1981, yeah.
The 80Ts had the different grillsimilar to my Delta Integrale.
So uh yeah, I had that for many,many, many years.
And then I sold, I can'tremember.
I think I sold the Chevellefirst.
Did you want to hear that story?
SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
Or you know, I don't know.
There is so much to get to, andtime is melting away.
Yeah, let's hear it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:36):
I mean, it just just real quickly, it was at the shop
because it was, I think theywere getting ready to close the
shop down in like in the 2000ssometime.
And it it was horrible by thatpoint.
Nobody could ever tune it.
It needed everything, it wasterrible.
Yeah, but Chevelles were comingup in value.
And there was a guy, he wassitting out there every day.
He started contacting me everyday or so and offering me more
(25:59):
money.
He was offering me a thousanddollars more a day, and finally
it got to a point where I waslike, all right, you can't say
no forever, yeah.
Like I said, I I've you know,I'm in real estate, I've
renovated houses, been arealtor, and I used the money
for the Chevelle to put my downpayment on my first investment,
(26:19):
which I still own, and I call itmy Ferrari fund because some
someday I'll sell that and buy areally cool car.
I learned that a Chevelle, myfirst car, into a condo and then
turn it into a really cool car.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
We'll get there for sure.
Yeah, love that.
Couple of can I hop in, Doug?
Or did you have something youwant to ask?
No, no, yeah.
Okay, so want to ask about acouple of cars.
So do you still have the 928?
SPEAKER_03 (26:49):
Yes, I do.
It's my second one that I'veowned.
This one's a five-speed manual,1978, first year.
SPEAKER_01 (26:56):
First year in the U.S., yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:58):
It's it's not a you know, I don't believe in buying
super clean cars.
It's just not my thing.
I know that people love that.
I like to buy drivers.
This one's definitely a driver.
I bought it from a guy in ruralin the rural area of the DC
area, and he maintained ithimself.
It had like a funky shifter onit.
You can see it in the video,just search driving Ivan and
(27:20):
Porsche 928.
You'll see it.
But this car, in fact, I'll tieit back to Morris Katzenson's
the car stereo shop.
I was fascinated by sports cars.
And this the Porsche Heichmannat the time was in Alexandria,
and they came by with they had a928 and a 911.
And the the salesman was like,Oh, the 928 is so good, it
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doesn't even.
I was like, it's an automatic,and he's like, It doesn't
matter.
There's so much torque in thiscar, it's amazing.
And so I owed an 84 automatic,and he's absolutely wrong,
unless you're talking about alater car 87, the the S or one
of the later cars are fast, evenan automatic.
However, having owned both now,the five-speed manual, dog leg
(28:07):
shifters, yeah.
The dog leg is the best, youknow.
First is dog legged, and that'sbecause nobody wants to be in
first gear on a racetrack, youknow, whatever.
It's incredible.
It is the absolute GermanCorvette.
It is so fast.
Oh wow, so much torque.
Mine's kind of a dog, you know.
I don't care.
It's not a perfect example, butman, I'd love to drive it.
(28:28):
It's a really cool car.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
How often do you drive it?
SPEAKER_03 (28:33):
It's been, you know, uh pretty regularly, but it's
been acting up.
You know, I get up running andthen I drive them.
And this one had a key issuewhere you stuck the key in and
it was really hard to start.
So I had that fixed, and then Istarted driving it all the time.
Now I think there it's got twofuel pumps, I think, and one of
them's acting up.
So, you know, it's always whenyou have this many cars, and
that's the thing, that's why Iwant to sell some, something's
(28:55):
always breaking, and they allbreak at once.
And it's just it's hideous.
So, you know, I'm experiencing abit of that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:02):
And and what do you do?
What is your go-to when you havean issue like that?
Do you kind of troubleshoot ityourself?
Do you kind of go to anindependent garage with some
things?
Do you take it back to a dealerspecialist or the dealer for for
other things?
How do you handle that on a on acar?
SPEAKER_03 (29:19):
I have my local, I have my local guys that that do
stuff for me.
And, you know, I'll say to yourviewers, I mean, sounds like you
guys are more crafty than I am.
You probably do a little morework on cars.
I hate working on cars.
I hate it.
Like I said, I've done it in thewater pump.
I did the alternator on my 9-11,my air-cooled 9-11, and my the
starter on that one, but ittakes me forever.
(29:40):
I'm not, it's not what Ispecialize in.
So knowing people in the clubsis good.
And if you know someone thatlikes to work on them and they
do it for you when you couldgive them a little bit of money
or something, why not?
That's been especially helpfulwith me with the Lotus.
I have a Lotus Esprit, and uh, Ihave a friend that has a lotus
esprit in a Europa, like I do.
I have a an espree in a Europa,and he's an incredible mechanic.
(30:03):
In fact, my Opal Ascona is athis house.
I have a 1972 Opal Escona, andthat's for sale too.
That's like got a mantic frontend, and that's for sale.
Somebody buy that for me.
It's ready to go.
Opal reliable, been working onit in his spare time.
SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
So, where do you find these?
You mentioned that you find themabroad and have them sent over.
Is that what happens to most ofthem, or just do you we do these
car clubs?
You you're always buying it.
SPEAKER_03 (30:35):
I've just started doing that.
I mean, that's the thing.
This is like real estate.
It's like real estate.
When do you make money?
You make money on the buy.
When you buy something, you makethe money.
You don't buy it right.
I I've gotten so lucky.
The Lotus Esprit, I had a friendcall me out of nowhere.
Uh, you know, the 1988 LotusEsprit, the second one.
(30:57):
Is that for sale?
Is that for sale?
I'll buy it from you.
I mean, it might be, but youknow, it could not be.
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
We'll talk about it for show.
We're gonna talk after it.
I'll be quiet.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
It's not one of the first ones I want to sell.
How about the 928, Christian?
That's what sorry, sorry, sorry.
Yep.
But do you want more on that?
Because the esprit was a coolstory, but anyway, it was
friends even telling about carsback then when I was in my buy
stage.
I'm not, I'm not really buyinganything, I gotta sell stuff.
I got too many cars.
It's ridiculous.
I finally sold my I bought thecheapest supercharged Jag.
(31:27):
That's one of my most popularvideos.
I think it's got a quartermillion hits or so.
And I just sold that car becausesome guy it doesn't really run
right.
And I just sold it for next tonothing because it went to a
good owner and uh he's gonnaenjoy it.
Probably flip it, but I don'tcare.
You know, there comes a time,you know.
SPEAKER_02 (31:45):
How many cars do you own?
I know I said 30, but I'mguessing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:49):
I think it dropped to 29 when I sold that Jag,
actually.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
It's a problem.
Don't have this many cars.
Kids, don't have this many cars.
I would like to get it down touh a very manageable 10.
Do not try this at home.
SPEAKER_00 (32:05):
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (32:06):
It's it's they uh sometimes eventually the things
own you.
SPEAKER_00 (32:12):
Well, that's what I was thinking.
When you said that you did, youknow, it wasn't your favorite
thing to work on cars.
The first thing that popped intomy mind was you have such a
fleet that if you did that, youwould never have time to to
travel or visit or or or youknow, do all the other hobbies
that you have.
SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
Also, again, you know, and this is a thing of I
try to buy cars that are indecent shape.
And even though I don't care howthey look, I care how they run,
I care about alignment andthings like that.
But the thing is, is when youhave that many cars, even if I
drive it a lot, if I drive it upand down the mountain, and
that's how I get my kicks, youknow, that's fun for me.
So, you know, it's literallylike I'm putting like six miles
(32:51):
on the car, you know.
I put six miles on it at a time.
And if I drive it to a car show,what am I putting?
You know, I don't put a lot ofmiles on the cars.
I'm not wearing through brakes,I'm not wearing through tires.
The problem is the time, youknow, the tyre the tires will
dry rot by the time I wear themout, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (33:08):
Yep, yeah.
Yeah.
So what would be you've owned alot of, I guess, dream cars, and
the ball's probably alwaysmoving the target.
What would be your dream carnow?
SPEAKER_03 (33:19):
It's funny because lately, you know, there are a
lot of cars.
I mean, you were talking aboutthe JDM cars, they're they're so
fun.
Yeah, to me lately, it's almostlike the one I just bought, you
know.
I mean, I'll always, you know,there is nothing like an air
cooled Porsche 911, they'revaluable for a reason.
They are incredible.
(33:40):
An early RX 7, they're reallycool.
The the Lancia Delta Integrale,the Citron is so weird.
There are special cars to drive,and they bring, you know, they
bring something that is special.
The 928 is a special car todrive.
It's it's the German Corvette.
It's front-engined, rear-wheeldrive, engineered, way
(34:00):
over-engineered.
And the reason I bought I thereason I sold my C3 Corvette, I
had a 77 Corvette, my firstfavorite car because of the
shape.
And I bought one, my blue one.
You can see it, it's a popularvideo.
But I did I paid all the moneyto have it, the alignment done,
the steering done, the brakesdone.
And if you compare that 77Corvette to that 78 Portion 928,
(34:22):
the core the Corvette, youshould be ashamed.
I mean, go to your room.
It's it's it's beautiful.
I appreciate the car, it'sbeautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (34:29):
They drive.
SPEAKER_03 (34:32):
The C3 Corvette was the dog.
I mean, in terms of handling,unless like it's one of those,
you know, I Rock ones, or youknow, one of those were really
cool.
But you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it had to have racesuspension on it to handle
correctly, you know, and theydidn't.
SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
Well, that's uh that's Porsche over engineering,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (34:52):
Yeah, you know, and that's the thing.
Everybody always asks me what'sthe best car.
And now I toured the PorscheMuseum.
I show you just like you said,you my videos where I show
everything.
Gotta watch that Porsche video.
The Porsche Museum, the MercedesMuseum, especially Auto World in
Brussels, Belgium.
I show you every car, the vault,the Peterson Vault, because you
(35:12):
know, they're just Porsches.
We go back to the PorscheMuseum.
They engineer them to drive tothe track, drive on the track,
and drive them home.
And have I done that?
Yeah.
My 996, my 2000 Porsche 996 thatI just drove last time to
Florida 2,500 miles in a25-year-old car.
What could possibly go wrong?
(35:33):
That's what that video saw.
Something went wrong.
Watch the video.
But okay, I drove that to thetrack, and I picked up a lady
friend and took her out todinner on the way back with the
top down, and it was 95 degreesthat day.
Uh-oh.
Show me a car that can do that.
Show me a car.
I was not driving slow on thetrack, I was eight, nine tenths.
And they're amazing cars.
SPEAKER_00 (35:56):
They really are amazing.
Love that ending segue here.
So as we ramp down and guide thepodcast gently to the off-ramp
here.
One last reminder to ouraudience: you got to go check
out these YouTube videos.
But I forewarn you, set aside aperiod of time because they are
very compelling and watchable,and you'll be under the hood for
(36:17):
quite a while.
But I got one last question foryou on the way out, Ivan.
Let's go back to the Audi TT,your 2001 spider.
And okay, so you have it in,let's see if I get this right,
Laguna Seka Blue, which is theBMW racing color.
But I want to hear about thebaseball glove leather.
(36:38):
Is that the interior?
Is that what you're referringto?
Or the terror.
SPEAKER_03 (36:42):
Baseball glove leather was an option.
If you if you want that, it'sgonna have to be that kind of
that gray color that looks alittle wet still.
Gotcha.
I think they did another ones,but the first edition was it was
like gray and it looked wet.
I mean, that's the only onewhere you could get that
baseball glove leather.
The stitching on the side, it'sthe color of baseball, the
stitching on the side color out.
(37:02):
I get it.
Yeah, it is so cool.
I was just saying, if I had tosell every one of my cars, that
thing is all-wheel drive, it's atwo-seat convertible.
You can spin in place in thatcar.
I watch my video, watch myreview of that car, just search
drive and dive in LD TT.
You can, and I have two othervideos of the snow, but the
review contains that.
So you can literally spin inplace in that car.
(37:24):
It's not an LD Quattro, littletrivia for you.
It's a Haldex.
And where else will I find aHaldex all-wheel drive system?
In the Bugatti Veyron.
So that all-wheel drive system.
And so it's incredible.
That car is incredible, so funto drive, and it's a Volkswagen
to maintain.
You will replace every part ofthem because they're terrible
(37:47):
out of warranty.
Aldi's, they're terrible.
But you will want to because itdrives so incredible.
And with that custom Laguna Secablue paint, it's forget about
it.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
Beautiful.
Ladies and gentlemen, you areonly going to get these insanely
quirky nuggets from Drive andIvan.
And hey, I got to tell you, itwas a complete pleasure meeting
you.
And Doug and I have been talkingabout having you on for months.
So this was really a bucket listthing for me.
I want to thank you for makingtime and thank you for being
here, my man.
We had a blast.
SPEAKER_03 (38:18):
Thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
We'll have to have him back.
Can we have you back to talkabout more cars?
SPEAKER_00 (38:24):
And anytime.
That's the problem with this guyis that, you know, 35 minutes
into the discussion, we're onlygetting started.
And I can feel the energy andjuices just starting to explode,
but we got to land it.
We'll have you back at a futuretime.
Again, driving Ivan was apleasure.
Thank you.
Enjoyed it so much.
Thank you.
Rock and roll.
(38:45):
We will have you back.
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(39:06):
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You have found again two all thecars I've loved before, your
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(00:27):
themed t-shirt.
And I'm I have kind of uh uh I'mhere in the panhandle of Florida
wearing a collar that makes meformal in these environments,
but my broadcasting partner hereseems to have a quite a springy
t-shirt here.
What you got there?
Right, Greg?
You're summoning the flowers andbees.
SPEAKER_02 (00:47):
Yeah, so this is for uh from I purchased it online
from Fresha Brothers AntiqueVolkswagen Repair in I don't
know, since the 1950s.
Greenwich.
Greenwich, Connecticut.
Greenwich, Connecticut.
Or is it Stanford?
SPEAKER_00 (01:02):
Yeah.
Oh, it's Greenwich, Connecticut.
It's all my what a fantasticshirt.
Yeah.
Fresha Brothers, F-R-E-C-C-I-A.
Look them up.
So if you're in the inConnecticut, in that area, they
they they do it all fromupholstery to tops.
They'll rip it apart, put itback together.
SPEAKER_04 (01:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
All things air-cooled, and just a little
quick trivia, maybe not trivia,but yeah, they they got started
repairing Volkswagens when theywere one of the original repair
repair places, right near theVolkswagen dealer in Greenwich.
It's her dad, right?
(01:42):
Didn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
No, her oh her the grandparents made mistakes.
SPEAKER_02 (01:45):
Yeah, yeah, grandparents.
I think the Fresh Brothersbusiness has been around for
over a hundred years.
I think they got startedpainting wagons.
Wow.
Strong wagons, something likethat.
Way back.
So the the the old cars.
SPEAKER_00 (02:02):
So yeah, I'd like to have a full buggy restoration.
Uh new horse and yeah, onehorsepower, please.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Well, now it's all air-cooled.
So Volkswagen horses themselveswere air cooled, from what I
know.
SPEAKER_00 (02:13):
But yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
I've heard I've heard tomorrow.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Tomorrow, if you're listening tothis, depending on when you're
listening to this, but on April1st, we are gonna have that
great interview with GuinevereFresh, third or fourth
generation of that family.
And she runs all the socialmedia for that family and that
(02:35):
business.
SPEAKER_00 (02:36):
And you're not you're not playing an April
Fool's joke on us here withthat, with that.
Uh nope, it's you better not be.
We can't joke about that.
Now Guinevere is not an AprilFool.
No, she's the best, she's theApril Queen.
Now, have you been in contactwith her?
Because we interviewed her sometime ago, and I know y'all kind
of kept in touch.
She's really been a great friendof the show.
SPEAKER_02 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Just just more on social mediaposts.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
So, like you said.
SPEAKER_02 (03:05):
Yeah.
I did drop her a note yesterdayjust letting her know that we're
gonna air her episode tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00 (03:10):
Yeah, and she handles all the media for that
company and does a fantasticjob.
Check them out, Frisia Brothers,Google them.
And I did want to pivot quickly,welcome new listeners, as we
like to say we're heard aroundthe world.
Paris, welcome to our listenersin Paris.
I think that's a relatively newmarket.
Welcome to our listeners inJakarta, British Columbia,
(03:32):
Quebec, bienvenue.
Oslo, Islamabad, and Naples.
So all over the world, and asyou might imagine, uh, environs
around me in Florida, near Doug,in the Mid-Atlantic.
Uh also some places inCalifornia, the Midwest.
So welcome back.
It's great to have all of you.
And we're trying to read somereviews.
(03:52):
Let's see.
Let me pull some of thesereviews from the new website.
Oh, yeah.
And I know you want to squeezein some of the projects that
you've been working on.
You've test driven a few carsrecently, but you know, I had a
review up here that I wanted toread.
Oh, George P says, let me findit.
If you go to our website,carslove.com, carsloved.com.
(04:14):
We have reviews and in Dougworked to get the is it we
totally redid the website.
And Doug redid it so all thesereviews just kind of scroll by
when you're on, which is reallyneat.
So here we had one.
The review carousel.
The review carousel.
It's got horses and unicorns.
You'll love it.
From George P says, Adam'sepisode was my favorite, mostly
(04:37):
because I know him, and ofcourse he is Adam.
Joanne S says, I checked outyour site and podcast.
Excellent job.
My boss supporting your info toa well-connected man in LA who
happens to love cars.
Smiley emoji.
We take it where we can get it.
And then I see previous guestsand in some that I that I don't
know leaving reviews.
(04:57):
But I love what you've done withthe website.
If you haven't checked it out,welcome back.
And uh please do to give it alook.
So I want to uh toss it to youbefore we bring in today's
guest.
Are there any new updates on anyof the social media stuff, the
tech stuff you've been workingon with the website, and or car
(05:19):
projects that you've beenworking on?
You can take them in reverseorder, just pick one.
SPEAKER_02 (05:27):
So car stuff, given that it now it's getting warm in
Maryland.
That's right.
Sherry Lawson.
My DeLorean has been up in NewJersey for a couple weeks.
Transmission work, and the guysfixed a bunch of different
things, and it's it's kind offunny, these guys they're like,
Yeah, basically, our job is toundo what previous owners have
(05:49):
done.
So they're like, Why is it setlike this?
I'm like, so-and-so told me todo it.
Why is it set like this?
So and so a different persontold me to do it, and they're
like, Yeah, we're gonna set allthose back to factory, and then
you're good.
So hope to get it back soon inthe next couple weeks.
My 1990 300 ZX, which was mydream car in high school that I
(06:13):
didn't own.
I bought it 30 years later,which has been sitting in my
garage for a couple years, fivedifferent colors.
I got motivated.
I'm putting a new starter in it.
And the plan is to have one ofour previous guests, Matt Pratt,
who has Top Coat Garage, isgonna paint it for me.
(06:34):
And I'm super excited.
We're gonna go from it wasoriginally black, now it's about
five different colors, and we'regonna go to silver.
SPEAKER_00 (06:42):
The Z of many colors.
Yeah, I think they made aBroadway music musical out of
it.
I want to buy a car that's justbeat up with a destroyed finish,
just to bring to that guy.
Interviewing him was sointeresting.
I think at one point I just Ijust lost all sense of time and
script when he started speakingabout the paint process and all
(07:02):
the wonderful.
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
Well, you you asked some great questions.
Um I can't wait for that episodeto come out.
Go live.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Yeah, that and that's a good point, too, is
that if those of us out therethat have podcasts, you know, uh
so we Doug and I took last monthoff, it was very busy, but we
have a whole bunch of thingsqueued up, right?
And so they're waiting to go.
So even though we interviewedWinavere a while ago, her
episode is dropping tomorrow.
Of course, you'll hear this atsome time in the future.
(07:30):
So yeah, it's good to be back.
Good to be back.
Speaking of, I think it's timeto bring in today's very special
guest, Doug.
So could you get give us alittle bit of a primer on how he
came into your life?
SPEAKER_02 (07:43):
Sure.
Well, let's see.
We could probably thank socialmedia, I think between Facebook,
probably a Facebook group thatI'm a member of called Katie's
Cars and Coffee, which you and Iattended, but we got there too
late a couple weeks ago, andeverything was gone.
(08:03):
I found this gentleman, IvanKatz, who lives in the Maryland,
DC, Virginia area.
And uh turns out he also has anawesome YouTube channel called
Drive in Ivan, and he reviewsall kinds of awesome cars and
different people and goes goesto those big car shows, car
shows big and small, and he'sjust everywhere.
(08:26):
He owns, I don't know, 30 cars.
He and he comes from a carfamily.
And the thing I love, maybe it'sjust me thinking about you know,
people being separated, sixdegrees of separation, is his
grandfather had a car radiobusiness in Alexandria.
His grandfather was Morse Katz,and it was Morse Katz and Sons.
(08:49):
And my grandfather's name wasMorris Katsif, and he sold
radios for cars because cars wayback when didn't come with
radios.
Sure.
Ivan is all that true.
I don't know when by the waythey're coming with it, but they
were optional for sure,especially on the early ones.
So I feel there's someconnection there, and we both
(09:11):
love cars.
Ivan, welcome aboard.
SPEAKER_03 (09:15):
Wow, thank you so much for having me, you two.
This is awesome.
And then thanks for that kindintroduction.
And yeah, my granddad's mottowas ever since there were car
stereos.
So, you know, moving on to Iguess when they opened the
business in the 60s, you know,cars came with radio, some
didn't, like you said, but youknow, we got a lot of cars from
(09:38):
everywhere on Porsche's, youknow, people could drop their
car off, head into DC for theirjob on the metro, come back, get
a new interior, or get a newradio, or get their radio
repaired.
We repaired radios, crazy stuff.
Yeah, and you know, I'll I'llthrow in a little celebrity
thing.
One day I was in there, and thislady happened to travel with a
(10:01):
recorder, and it broke on her.
And they said, Where do I go tofix this?
Mara's Cats and Sons.
And Alice from the Brady Bunchwas in there.
No way.
I don't know if you guys knewwho that is.
Maybe that's after your time.
Very fantastic.
Alice from the Brady Bunch waskind of famous.
So to see her.
SPEAKER_00 (10:17):
Very good.
What kind of car did Alice have?
SPEAKER_03 (10:20):
You guys don't understand.
You know, there were only acertain number of TV shows back
then.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
I'm not as young as I look, so yeah.
I I I do remember Alice.
Maybe it was maybe it was inreruns.
SPEAKER_02 (10:30):
We're closer in age to you than you realize.
SPEAKER_03 (10:33):
All right, that's good.
That's good.
SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
But but uh, what kind of car did Alice have?
SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
Well, she didn't, you know, it was she was
probably getting driven becauseshe was in town for something or
something else.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Had a gotcha, a recorder and itwas broken.
I mean, they could fix anything,they really could.
My dad could fix anything.
My dad could put on aconvertible top if he wanted to.
The only thing I ever did, Iknow you're gonna ask me about
my first car.
One day on a Sunday, my dadcould fix anything.
(10:59):
And my car was not runningright.
And one day on a Sunday, we wentthere and we went to track
audit.
It was closed on a Sunday.
And he said, Ivan, you see thesehands?
And I said, Yeah.
He says, they're clean andthey're gonna stay clean because
you're gonna do this.
I put in the water pump in my1970 Chevelle Malibu convertible
with a 307 and a Rochestercarburetor that nobody could
(11:22):
tune.
And so that was my first car.
1970 Chevelle MalibuConvertible.
SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
And I believe pictures of this car are
embedded in at least one, if notmore, of your videos.
I think.
SPEAKER_03 (11:35):
Though, what does drive an Ivan drive is a very
funny, you know, it's a verythat's a funny video because
it's the first one I did.
But yes, yes, yes.
There is also, I didn't tell youthis story, maybe it's a good
one.
In Old Town, Alexandria, therewere parades, and we all had
convertibles.
My dad was like, my my my dadhad a yeah, we all had
Cadillacs.
My granddad was obsessed withCadillacs, so we had a 70 Coupe
(11:58):
de Ville convertible andturquoise with white leather
that I took my driver's test in.
And my mom had a 66 Dodge Dartconvertible, and she, you know,
that was a very cool car.
We would drive it in the parade.
I drove that car in the parade,and our dignitary did not show
up that day.
We we driven in so many parades.
My mom, my brother, went andpicked up Art Monk, the Redskins
(12:18):
player at his house.
Oh wow, he was a big Redskinsfan, so he was thrilled to do
that.
But that day, no dignitaryshowed up.
And I drove that white DodgeDart.
It was my absolute FerrisBueller moment because I drove
it.
I was like, I said I had twopretty girls, my friends back
then, and I said, You on theback, wait, you sit next to me.
(12:40):
And we just drove right throughthe parade.
And I that video is on YouTube.
Search the drive and Ivan 1966Dodge Dart or Old Town Parade.
It's so funny because theannouncer doesn't have any idea
what's going on.
And I got to drive through aparade with no dignitary, and
the car is hilarious.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
But anyway, so another Alexandria story.
Where did that first car comefrom?
Oh, did I jump in front of you,Doug?
Did you drop in something?
That was the same question I wasgonna ask.
Reading your mind, samewavelength.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
Well, again, this is an interesting story about the
business too, because somebodycame in.
I think at the time, a new top,a new top on a car was like$700,
$900.
Yeah.
And the guy came in with thisChevelle, and he was like, I
could sell it for that.
I I I'm not gonna spend seven ornine hundred dollars on the car,
I could sell it for that.
(13:29):
And it was, I think my dad or myuncle, somebody bought the car,
and my dad drove it home.
And it was it was a sky blue, itwas a light blue at that time.
And by the time I had it, Ipainted it a little dark or
whatever.
I did a lot of stuff too,totally ruined it.
And the selling of it was a goodstory too.
But anyway, it was driven home,and my dad was like, Oh, you're
(13:50):
never gonna have this car.
I I I was given the car prettypretty quickly after that.
Yeah, I needed it.
So uh yeah, it was my first car,and it was bought from a
customer probably for somewherearound seven or nine hundred
dollars.
1970 Chevelle Malibu convertible307, you know, but still, how
much is it worth today, right?
Yeah, how much do they sell itfor?
(14:11):
That's the question.
SPEAKER_02 (14:12):
Yeah, not a not a bad car for a teenager.
SPEAKER_03 (14:15):
Yeah, it was it was pretty cool, you know.
Uh convertibles are cool.
I love convertibles, and we hadthem.
Yep, my brother didn't mybrother didn't like them, and he
had a uh Plymouth satellite,like from the uh B-52s, Planet
Claire.
Also drove satellite big as awhale.
Yeah, that one.
Well, that's another song.
That's yeah, that's Love Shack.
(14:38):
But yeah, so uh and they hadboth my brothers had Vegas, so
to Vegas, and you know, I got todrive Pintos, I got to drive
Yugos.
I mean, I drove a Pinto veryearly.
I mean, that was one of my firstcars driving.
SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Now, when did you I don't want to hop in front of
Doug here?
That's okay.
You got the bug for Europeancars pretty quickly.
So, how how did that happen?
Was it were you a student ofdesign?
Was it uh happenstance?
SPEAKER_03 (15:09):
I did my homework and I saw you guys, you you guys
have an RX7 video out there,don't you?
You just recently did a podcaston an RX7 or something like
that.
Or you covered the RX7, right?
Yep, yep.
And even the Z car that you weretalking about.
But when I was really little, Iwas in the car and I was at it's
(15:29):
still there, the seminary roadin 395 exit and entrance to the
highway.
Or so it's a roundabout, andthat is when I saw a guy in
probably a 70s RX 7, it probablyhad just come out, and he was
about to enter the southbound395, and he was in an RX7, you
(15:51):
know, five-speed manual,obviously.
He chucked it sideways and justtook off.
I mean, it was a beautiful, itwasn't even, I wouldn't even say
it was a drift.
He just, you know, he just threwit sideways and took off.
It was beautiful.
And I was like, I think the carsthat my dad was driving, and you
know, the American cars we weredriving were super cool, and I
grew up with them.
(16:11):
But I wanted to do that.
I want to drive sideways.
I loved one of my favoritethings to do is drive a car on
the edge.
I I'm very fortunate to livenear twisty roads, and I could
take one, two, three cars up aday within five, ten minutes.
Uh I can experience somemagnificent driving.
(16:32):
And that was the first car thatshowed me the way.
I mean, uh, RX7 is an incrediblehandling car.
You gotta, it's the 70s.
And you know, American cars, ifyou threw them sideways like
that, the body roll, you know,it was only in like chips and
like you know, the shows wewatched back then that could be
(16:52):
driven like that becauseotherwise we're bouncing back
and forth and just you know, youwould lose it because the
suspension was so loose.
And again, there's a place forthat.
I love uh Cadillac suspension ora Lincoln suspension from back
in the day.
But I at that point was sointrigued by a car that could
handle like that, it wasincredible.
(17:13):
Like your Z car, your 90 Z caragain.
I don't know if yours is a turboor not a turbo, not non-turbo.
Okay, but still, that's I droveone of those very early on, and
man, you could get that thingloose very easily.
It had a lot of torque, yeah,right?
SPEAKER_02 (17:28):
Well, especially if it's been raining, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
It's really good in the rain, but they're they're
wonderful driving cars, andthat's what the Z car did.
I mean, a neighbor had an early70s.
I I started, you know, I Iremember the first Z car showing
up.
I remember the first Mazda Miatathat a four-star admiral that
lived on my street had.
I remember that.
It was paradigm shifting.
(17:53):
I mean, you know, all the allthese kids and everybody that
loves Miadas and everything now,and they love to trick them out
and do this and do that.
Just to stock Miata, havingsomething reliable like a Z car,
an RX 7, it was generally morereliable than an MG or a triumph
or a you know, considering.
Yeah, I've always been one fortrouble.
(18:14):
And you know, these cars.
That's why my daily driver is afreeus, honestly.
I love the video that's afreeus, the best car in the
world.
SPEAKER_00 (18:23):
Now, you know, speaking of videos, all right,
let's hit pause here for a quicksecond.
Take our breath, breakneck pacethat we're going here.
I I wanna ask about all right,so the YouTube videos, if you're
not aware of Drive and Ivan'scontent, check him out on
YouTube.
So many wonderful videos.
He he he'll review a car, talkabout the cars that he owns,
(18:48):
talk about the questionseverybody wants to ask.
What are the costs associatedwith these old exotic
automobiles?
He'll go to uh uh all kinds ofcar shows.
I forget one of your videos thatwas just recently posted where
it was, but so watchable.
And the fact that you did thisprofessionally for a long time
really comes through in thequality of the videos.
And I really want ourlistenership to give it some
(19:09):
time.
Go on YouTube, check it out.
And oh, here was my question.
You talk about driving throughthese winding roads, and from
the videos that I've seen, doyou still live near there?
Because I know that you tooksome of your cars through these
winding, idyllic country roads.
I mean, it looks like an Audiad.
(19:31):
It's beautiful.
You still have access to thatsort of those environments.
SPEAKER_03 (19:35):
I like I said, I'm currently down in Florida where
the roads are not so exciting.
But uh yes, I live I live in anarea where there are very twisty
roads and it is absolutelyawesome.
It's incredible.
You know, my drive to Katie'scoffee is great.
It's just fun.
It's a little longer than itused to be when I lived in in
(19:56):
the DC area proper.
But yeah, I'm very spoiled.
It's it's gonna be hard ifsomeday when I want to, you
know, sell and and be someplacewarmer or something.
I love I love it down here, downsouth, but I am very lucky to
live where I live.
And yeah, the roads areincredible.
I can take a car or two or threeup there uh a day, and it's
(20:18):
nice.
SPEAKER_00 (20:19):
Interesting.
So so are you are yousnowbirding in a way, sometime
down here, sometime up there?
Or I'm kind of snowbirding.
I can't so jealous.
SPEAKER_03 (20:28):
You guys know what date it is.
I've been down in Florida for awhile, and I'd already been down
here once in January.
Gotcha.
But yeah, I'm down here for theAmelia, the Amelia Island.
It's called the Amelia now,Haggard is Amelia.
And they are very, you know,it's it's a great event.
It's well run.
Next year, I'll probably hit theone that's in Miami and then hit
that one.
(20:49):
So yeah, I like to get out ofthe the DC area when it's cold
because I'm just I'm like, I'mover this.
I hear you.
Yeah, totally, totally.
Being uh kind of someone whorealized a long time ago that I
was unemployable, that I had towork for myself.
Fortunately, I have the time andthe freedom to do it.
I've been into Europe, I'vedriven in Nurbergering, I drove
(21:10):
all over Ireland, I've drivenall over England, you know,
many.
I bought three cars back in thesummer of 23 from Europe, and I
just bought two more cars backfrom year England, really, in
the summer of 24.
So I I like driving a car thatnobody else drives.
SPEAKER_01 (21:29):
Yeah, you get roadless travel books, the
thumbs up.
I'm with you.
The thumbs up.
I said you get all the looks,the thumbs up, the I I picked up
my fiat barquetta from the port,and I literally within like two
minutes, someone's like, Whatwhat is that?
SPEAKER_03 (21:48):
What is so cool?
What is that?
Yeah, you know, no one knows.
And it has like the EuropeanFiat emblem, but it's not really
it's just it's fiat in America.
So the people didn't know whatit was a fiat barquetta.
And actually, I I don't want toadvertise, but I I've got to
sell some of these cars, and Ido have a fiat barquetta for
sale.
So I literally bought that carright now, it's for sale right
(22:09):
now.
SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
He I lost two.
SPEAKER_03 (22:11):
I wanted that car for the hardtop that I could put
on my car.
I have a blue fiat barquetta,you can see it.
And if you see the silver one inmy videos, the silver fiat
barquetta with the red leather,that's for sale.
And so is my Janetta G26, andmaybe my Alpina B7 BMW.
SPEAKER_00 (22:29):
Well, where can we find about uh out about these
these automobiles for sale?
We just gotta ask you, or is iton YouTube, or do you have a
sale where you do a walk around?
SPEAKER_03 (22:39):
Or sometimes they'll be on on the internet.
Gotcha.
And yeah, I'll usually put avideo up and you could contact
me on my Instagram or somethinglike that.
Drive in, it's the same as myYouTube drive in Ivan and leave
off the G, drive in Ivan Katz, IV-A-N-K-A-T-Z, and drive in
without a without a G.
And drive in Ivan Katz onInstagram, you know, whatever.
(22:59):
So the real drive and Ivan onTikTok.
SPEAKER_00 (23:02):
So love it.
Yeah, we'll get all this in theshow notes here.
And I know Doug wants to kind ofproceed with the the with the
cavalcade, the parade of yourfirst cars.
So let's talk about selling thefirst car to get into the
Lancia.
Yeah.
I didn't.
SPEAKER_03 (23:15):
I didn't sell the first car to get into the
Lancia.
I just uh I I bought the Lancia.
It's funny, I bought a I think Icould barely afford this car.
I think I paid$875 or$900 fromthe first gato and it was red.
And then I spent the money at aestablishment in the in that DC
area that I won't mentionbecause they I spent a good
(23:38):
amount of money, a lot more thanI had spent for the car and
fixed everything.
And then I was driving it.
My my college girlfriend at thetime, I ran into the house and
was like, My car's on fire.
And she comes out with athimble, uh a thimble of water
to put it out.
And the the flames were shootingup like oh no, 20 feet.
The the fire department said itwas the worst car fire they ever
(24:01):
put out.
It burned.
There was a Volkswagen Jetta infront of me.
It burned that a little bit too.
Oh no, the catalytic converterseized in that first Lancia, and
it was just blown away.
So I got the insurance, and thenthere was a friend of mine who
was a dentist.
Her dad, her dad was a dentistin town.
And I said, if you ever want tosell this car, it was white.
(24:23):
And I'd I really hadn't seen awhite.
Mine was red.
There, most of them were red andblack.
There were some that were white,some were blue, some were black.
There was a special edition ofblack, but this one was white.
And I just think sports carslook good in white.
Ferraris looked good and white.
Anyway, it's a white LanciaZagato.
And one day he just called meand said, If you want it, it's
yours.
And he said$1750, I think,$1,750.
(24:47):
And it was far better than thecar I had before.
Yeah.
Because he bought it at AmericanService Center in Arlington,
Virginia, which is also aMercedes dealership.
Yep.
And it it was, I have theoriginal receipts and
everything, but$12,950, it waslike$13,000 in 1981.
That was a lot of money.
Yeah.
That was a heck of a lot ofmoney.
SPEAKER_02 (25:08):
So I bought it.
Was it uh 1981, Ivan?
SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
1981, yeah.
The 80Ts had the different grillsimilar to my Delta Integrale.
So uh yeah, I had that for many,many, many years.
And then I sold, I can'tremember.
I think I sold the Chevellefirst.
Did you want to hear that story?
SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
Or you know, I don't know.
There is so much to get to, andtime is melting away.
Yeah, let's hear it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:36):
I mean, it just just real quickly, it was at the shop
because it was, I think theywere getting ready to close the
shop down in like in the 2000ssometime.
And it it was horrible by thatpoint.
Nobody could ever tune it.
It needed everything, it wasterrible.
Yeah, but Chevelles were comingup in value.
And there was a guy, he wassitting out there every day.
He started contacting me everyday or so and offering me more
(25:59):
money.
He was offering me a thousanddollars more a day, and finally
it got to a point where I waslike, all right, you can't say
no forever, yeah.
Like I said, I I've you know,I'm in real estate, I've
renovated houses, been arealtor, and I used the money
for the Chevelle to put my downpayment on my first investment,
(26:19):
which I still own, and I call itmy Ferrari fund because some
someday I'll sell that and buy areally cool car.
I learned that a Chevelle, myfirst car, into a condo and then
turn it into a really cool car.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
We'll get there for sure.
Yeah, love that.
Couple of can I hop in, Doug?
Or did you have something youwant to ask?
No, no, yeah.
Okay, so want to ask about acouple of cars.
So do you still have the 928?
SPEAKER_03 (26:49):
Yes, I do.
It's my second one that I'veowned.
This one's a five-speed manual,1978, first year.
SPEAKER_01 (26:56):
First year in the U.S., yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:58):
It's it's not a you know, I don't believe in buying
super clean cars.
It's just not my thing.
I know that people love that.
I like to buy drivers.
This one's definitely a driver.
I bought it from a guy in ruralin the rural area of the DC
area, and he maintained ithimself.
It had like a funky shifter onit.
You can see it in the video,just search driving Ivan and
(27:20):
Porsche 928.
You'll see it.
But this car, in fact, I'll tieit back to Morris Katzenson's
the car stereo shop.
I was fascinated by sports cars.
And this the Porsche Heichmannat the time was in Alexandria,
and they came by with they had a928 and a 911.
And the the salesman was like,Oh, the 928 is so good, it
(27:42):
doesn't even.
I was like, it's an automatic,and he's like, It doesn't
matter.
There's so much torque in thiscar, it's amazing.
And so I owed an 84 automatic,and he's absolutely wrong,
unless you're talking about alater car 87, the the S or one
of the later cars are fast, evenan automatic.
However, having owned both now,the five-speed manual, dog leg
(28:07):
shifters, yeah.
The dog leg is the best, youknow.
First is dog legged, and that'sbecause nobody wants to be in
first gear on a racetrack, youknow, whatever.
It's incredible.
It is the absolute GermanCorvette.
It is so fast.
Oh wow, so much torque.
Mine's kind of a dog, you know.
I don't care.
It's not a perfect example, butman, I'd love to drive it.
(28:28):
It's a really cool car.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
How often do you drive it?
SPEAKER_03 (28:33):
It's been, you know, uh pretty regularly, but it's
been acting up.
You know, I get up running andthen I drive them.
And this one had a key issuewhere you stuck the key in and
it was really hard to start.
So I had that fixed, and then Istarted driving it all the time.
Now I think there it's got twofuel pumps, I think, and one of
them's acting up.
So, you know, it's always whenyou have this many cars, and
that's the thing, that's why Iwant to sell some, something's
(28:55):
always breaking, and they allbreak at once.
And it's just it's hideous.
So, you know, I'm experiencing abit of that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:02):
And and what do you do?
What is your go-to when you havean issue like that?
Do you kind of troubleshoot ityourself?
Do you kind of go to anindependent garage with some
things?
Do you take it back to a dealerspecialist or the dealer for for
other things?
How do you handle that on a on acar?
SPEAKER_03 (29:19):
I have my local, I have my local guys that that do
stuff for me.
And, you know, I'll say to yourviewers, I mean, sounds like you
guys are more crafty than I am.
You probably do a little morework on cars.
I hate working on cars.
I hate it.
Like I said, I've done it in thewater pump.
I did the alternator on my 9-11,my air-cooled 9-11, and my the
starter on that one, but ittakes me forever.
(29:40):
I'm not, it's not what Ispecialize in.
So knowing people in the clubsis good.
And if you know someone thatlikes to work on them and they
do it for you when you couldgive them a little bit of money
or something, why not?
That's been especially helpfulwith me with the Lotus.
I have a Lotus Esprit, and uh, Ihave a friend that has a lotus
esprit in a Europa, like I do.
I have a an espree in a Europa,and he's an incredible mechanic.
(30:03):
In fact, my Opal Ascona is athis house.
I have a 1972 Opal Escona, andthat's for sale too.
That's like got a mantic frontend, and that's for sale.
Somebody buy that for me.
It's ready to go.
Opal reliable, been working onit in his spare time.
SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
So, where do you find these?
You mentioned that you find themabroad and have them sent over.
Is that what happens to most ofthem, or just do you we do these
car clubs?
You you're always buying it.
SPEAKER_03 (30:35):
I've just started doing that.
I mean, that's the thing.
This is like real estate.
It's like real estate.
When do you make money?
You make money on the buy.
When you buy something, you makethe money.
You don't buy it right.
I I've gotten so lucky.
The Lotus Esprit, I had a friendcall me out of nowhere.
Uh, you know, the 1988 LotusEsprit, the second one.
(30:57):
Is that for sale?
Is that for sale?
I'll buy it from you.
I mean, it might be, but youknow, it could not be.
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
We'll talk about it for show.
We're gonna talk after it.
I'll be quiet.
SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
It's not one of the first ones I want to sell.
How about the 928, Christian?
That's what sorry, sorry, sorry.
Yep.
But do you want more on that?
Because the esprit was a coolstory, but anyway, it was
friends even telling about carsback then when I was in my buy
stage.
I'm not, I'm not really buyinganything, I gotta sell stuff.
I got too many cars.
It's ridiculous.
I finally sold my I bought thecheapest supercharged Jag.
(31:27):
That's one of my most popularvideos.
I think it's got a quartermillion hits or so.
And I just sold that car becausesome guy it doesn't really run
right.
And I just sold it for next tonothing because it went to a
good owner and uh he's gonnaenjoy it.
Probably flip it, but I don'tcare.
You know, there comes a time,you know.
SPEAKER_02 (31:45):
How many cars do you own?
I know I said 30, but I'mguessing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:49):
I think it dropped to 29 when I sold that Jag,
actually.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
It's a problem.
Don't have this many cars.
Kids, don't have this many cars.
I would like to get it down touh a very manageable 10.
Do not try this at home.
SPEAKER_00 (32:05):
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (32:06):
It's it's they uh sometimes eventually the things
own you.
SPEAKER_00 (32:12):
Well, that's what I was thinking.
When you said that you did, youknow, it wasn't your favorite
thing to work on cars.
The first thing that popped intomy mind was you have such a
fleet that if you did that, youwould never have time to to
travel or visit or or or youknow, do all the other hobbies
that you have.
SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
Also, again, you know, and this is a thing of I
try to buy cars that are indecent shape.
And even though I don't care howthey look, I care how they run,
I care about alignment andthings like that.
But the thing is, is when youhave that many cars, even if I
drive it a lot, if I drive it upand down the mountain, and
that's how I get my kicks, youknow, that's fun for me.
So, you know, it's literallylike I'm putting like six miles
(32:51):
on the car, you know.
I put six miles on it at a time.
And if I drive it to a car show,what am I putting?
You know, I don't put a lot ofmiles on the cars.
I'm not wearing through brakes,I'm not wearing through tires.
The problem is the time, youknow, the tyre the tires will
dry rot by the time I wear themout, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (33:08):
Yep, yeah.
Yeah.
So what would be you've owned alot of, I guess, dream cars, and
the ball's probably alwaysmoving the target.
What would be your dream carnow?
SPEAKER_03 (33:19):
It's funny because lately, you know, there are a
lot of cars.
I mean, you were talking aboutthe JDM cars, they're they're so
fun.
Yeah, to me lately, it's almostlike the one I just bought, you
know.
I mean, I'll always, you know,there is nothing like an air
cooled Porsche 911, they'revaluable for a reason.
They are incredible.
(33:40):
An early RX 7, they're reallycool.
The the Lancia Delta Integrale,the Citron is so weird.
There are special cars to drive,and they bring, you know, they
bring something that is special.
The 928 is a special car todrive.
It's it's the German Corvette.
It's front-engined, rear-wheeldrive, engineered, way
(34:00):
over-engineered.
And the reason I bought I thereason I sold my C3 Corvette, I
had a 77 Corvette, my firstfavorite car because of the
shape.
And I bought one, my blue one.
You can see it, it's a popularvideo.
But I did I paid all the moneyto have it, the alignment done,
the steering done, the brakesdone.
And if you compare that 77Corvette to that 78 Portion 928,
(34:22):
the core the Corvette, youshould be ashamed.
I mean, go to your room.
It's it's it's beautiful.
I appreciate the car, it'sbeautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (34:29):
They drive.
SPEAKER_03 (34:32):
The C3 Corvette was the dog.
I mean, in terms of handling,unless like it's one of those,
you know, I Rock ones, or youknow, one of those were really
cool.
But you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it had to have racesuspension on it to handle
correctly, you know, and theydidn't.
SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
Well, that's uh that's Porsche over engineering,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (34:52):
Yeah, you know, and that's the thing.
Everybody always asks me what'sthe best car.
And now I toured the PorscheMuseum.
I show you just like you said,you my videos where I show
everything.
Gotta watch that Porsche video.
The Porsche Museum, the MercedesMuseum, especially Auto World in
Brussels, Belgium.
I show you every car, the vault,the Peterson Vault, because you
(35:12):
know, they're just Porsches.
We go back to the PorscheMuseum.
They engineer them to drive tothe track, drive on the track,
and drive them home.
And have I done that?
Yeah.
My 996, my 2000 Porsche 996 thatI just drove last time to
Florida 2,500 miles in a25-year-old car.
What could possibly go wrong?
(35:33):
That's what that video saw.
Something went wrong.
Watch the video.
But okay, I drove that to thetrack, and I picked up a lady
friend and took her out todinner on the way back with the
top down, and it was 95 degreesthat day.
Uh-oh.
Show me a car that can do that.
Show me a car.
I was not driving slow on thetrack, I was eight, nine tenths.
And they're amazing cars.
SPEAKER_00 (35:56):
They really are amazing.
Love that ending segue here.
So as we ramp down and guide thepodcast gently to the off-ramp
here.
One last reminder to ouraudience: you got to go check
out these YouTube videos.
But I forewarn you, set aside aperiod of time because they are
very compelling and watchable,and you'll be under the hood for
(36:17):
quite a while.
But I got one last question foryou on the way out, Ivan.
Let's go back to the Audi TT,your 2001 spider.
And okay, so you have it in,let's see if I get this right,
Laguna Seka Blue, which is theBMW racing color.
But I want to hear about thebaseball glove leather.
(36:38):
Is that the interior?
Is that what you're referringto?
Or the terror.
SPEAKER_03 (36:42):
Baseball glove leather was an option.
If you if you want that, it'sgonna have to be that kind of
that gray color that looks alittle wet still.
Gotcha.
I think they did another ones,but the first edition was it was
like gray and it looked wet.
I mean, that's the only onewhere you could get that
baseball glove leather.
The stitching on the side, it'sthe color of baseball, the
stitching on the side color out.
(37:02):
I get it.
Yeah, it is so cool.
I was just saying, if I had tosell every one of my cars, that
thing is all-wheel drive, it's atwo-seat convertible.
You can spin in place in thatcar.
I watch my video, watch myreview of that car, just search
drive and dive in LD TT.
You can, and I have two othervideos of the snow, but the
review contains that.
So you can literally spin inplace in that car.
(37:24):
It's not an LD Quattro, littletrivia for you.
It's a Haldex.
And where else will I find aHaldex all-wheel drive system?
In the Bugatti Veyron.
So that all-wheel drive system.
And so it's incredible.
That car is incredible, so funto drive, and it's a Volkswagen
to maintain.
You will replace every part ofthem because they're terrible
(37:47):
out of warranty.
Aldi's, they're terrible.
But you will want to because itdrives so incredible.
And with that custom Laguna Secablue paint, it's forget about
it.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
Beautiful.
Ladies and gentlemen, you areonly going to get these insanely
quirky nuggets from Drive andIvan.
And hey, I got to tell you, itwas a complete pleasure meeting
you.
And Doug and I have been talkingabout having you on for months.
So this was really a bucket listthing for me.
I want to thank you for makingtime and thank you for being
here, my man.
We had a blast.
SPEAKER_03 (38:18):
Thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
We'll have to have him back.
Can we have you back to talkabout more cars?
SPEAKER_00 (38:24):
And anytime.
That's the problem with this guyis that, you know, 35 minutes
into the discussion, we're onlygetting started.
And I can feel the energy andjuices just starting to explode,
but we got to land it.
We'll have you back at a futuretime.
Again, driving Ivan was apleasure.
Thank you.
Enjoyed it so much.
Thank you.
Rock and roll.
(38:45):
We will have you back.
You have just heard the highrevving, low mileage, late model
herd round the world podcast onauthoritative automobile,
authoritative podcast onautomobile nostalgia.
You can tell we haven't donethis in a month.
He's Doug.
Reach him at Doug atCarsLove.com.
I am Christian.
Reach me at Christian atCarsLove.com.
You know how to get a hold ofdrive and Ivan.
(39:06):
He's all over the place.
It'll be in the show notes, soplease follow and tell a friend
if you've liked what you heard.
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I'm sure we'll see you at thenext local car show, showroom,
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We appreciate you listening, andwe will see you next time.
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