The Secret 1997 Viper GTS Surprise: HH Wheels' Father-Daughter Journey from Soft Shell Crabs to Dream Cars

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The company's patent?
Yeah.
I love it.
Of the DMC what?
12?
DMC12.
Yes.
Do you know what the 12 stoodfor?
Uh 12th bankruptcy he'd beenthrough.
Twelfth wife.
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It was supposed to cost$12,000.

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It is.
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His pre-cursor.
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recently, and how did that uhhow did that go?

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Yeah, so um Groll Turismo.
For for yeah, for forbackground, my son likes video
games, not necessarily drivinggames, but just video games.
Yep.
And um there's another YouTuber,um, besides the one we're gonna
talk to today, who who um AmeliaHartford, who was in Gran

(01:53):
Turismo, and uh her YouTubechannel is is pretty good.
Uh she has some cool cars onthere.
So um I told my son about it,and he said, Oh, you know, Gran
Turismo is based on a truestory.
I'm like, no way.
And and the yeah, the short plotof it is um that Sony via their

(02:14):
PlayStation decided in whateveryear it was, uh early mid-2000s,
that they were going to do acontest for the best drivers on
the game and take, I don't know,eight, whatever, and give them a
chance to become drivers forNissan.

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And true, true story.
The uh the guy in it, uh hisname is uh Jan.

SPEAKER_04 (02:40):
So there's hope for my son, is what you say.
My youngest son, who never comesout of his room to be a
professional driver.
But please continue.

SPEAKER_02 (02:47):
Just get him the whole the whole.
So uh, yeah, they ended updriving everything.
And they the uh star of it.
Well, the the real personactually played uh Jan.
He actually played the uh stuntdriver, I believe, in the movie.
But uh I didn't know the name ofthe uh the star, but Orlando

(03:09):
Bloom was in it.
It was uh I think 2022 or 2023.
Yeah.
Is it a great movie?

SPEAKER_04 (03:16):
Yeah, it got good reviews.
It looked like the typical uhaction summer action popcorn
stuff, but it actually was prpretty well reviewed.
I meant to see it, it wasn't inthe theaters uh long here.
So I will have to check it out.

SPEAKER_02 (03:29):
And there is a new movie coming out with Brad Pitt.
I think it's called F1, whichI'm looking forward to seeing as
well.
Um not being done a video gameas far as I know, but um yeah,
Gran Turismo.
Um big surprise.
I thought it was gonna be aboutgaming, it was not.
So coming to a small screen nearyou.

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pivot to our guests today.
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Still a long way to go.

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Well, it's good.
That's that's a plus when youstart from the bottom.
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We were posting every other day,but that was a lot.
But it's it's coming out.

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Yeah, pretty, pretty often.
Pretty often.
There's a uh there happens to bea 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona
electric vehicle at the dealernear me.
Um, so I was actually gonnaroll.
You gave it the walk around.
Yeah, like maybe tonight and doa better walk-around video, and
we'll we'll put that out there.
So it was fun.

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Love those.
It's thank you.
It's great because there'snobody there at night.

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Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, it's it's fantastic whenyou break into places, that
tends to happen.
Well, it's new listeners.
Welcome.
Hey, we have some new listeners,my favorite part of the show.
Uh so we were right, the peoplelistening from Japan were from
Tokyo.
We took a guest there.
Uh, welcome, new listeners inReykjavik, Iceland.
We continue to have people indribbles and drabs listening

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Well, on to today's guest.
I'm really excited, and before Ihand over to Doug to tell you
how we cross paths, I want tosay that we've had uh tandems on

(06:50):
the show here in the past.
We've had Father Son, we've hadum mentor, protege, uh, actually
a couple of shows at thecollegiate level, which should
be published out there.
Uh Weaver State, one of ourshows here.
Uh I've interviewed my son forthe show, and he talked about uh
driving uh he's in the ArmyReserves, talked about his drive

(07:11):
in Humvee.
He had a blast doing that.
And so we have a father, this isso unique today, and we're so
pleased.
We have a father-daughtercombination who has this uh
really interesting familybusiness and a YouTube show.
They couldn't be moreinteresting, more fun, more
talented, or have more zanypositive energy.

(07:35):
Caroline and James, welcome tothe show.

SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
Thank you.
Hey, how are you guys?

SPEAKER_04 (07:41):
Okay, and now you look bundled up.
How how cold are you in in thatin that man cave turned garage,
turned studio, turned it's like65 in here.

SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
It's not bad.
Not too bad.

SPEAKER_04 (07:52):
Oh my god.
That's giving me the chills herein Florida, man.
In the Florida panhandle, itgets lower than 70, and I put on
a parka.
That's how I do it.
But you look great, you soundgreat, and and um before we get
your backstory, Doug, how didhow did the they this duo end up
on the radar?

SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
Yeah.
So um let's see.
I think I want to say it was inDecember.
I had some terrible cold.
So what did I do?
I sat around watching YouTubevideos about cars.
Grow the brand.
Yeah.
And um, it's when I discovereduh HH Wheels or or HH Wheels
Productions uh with Caroline andJames, and um reached out to

(08:34):
Caroline via uh either directemail or the form on their
website.
Uh I believe it'sHHWheelspro.com.
And uh Caroline nicely repliedback.
I asked them to be on thepodcast given, especially given
the theme of uh father-daughterand trying to do more family
themes.
And she so kindly replied, anduh we exchanged a few emails,

(08:56):
and here we are.

SPEAKER_04 (08:58):
Yeah, and and out there in listener land, if you
want to put a smile on yourface, go to youtube.com, type in
H H wheels, and the these videosare short ones, they're long
ones, and uh it just so muchfun, great production values
too.
This stuff should be on TV,which I'm sure it will be one

(09:20):
day.
But how did this idea come intoyour head, Caroline or James?
Take it away.
How'd it happen?

SPEAKER_00 (09:28):
I mean, I'll happily break the ice on this one.
So originally we kind of justmet in a very serendipitous way,
which I'm sure we'll talk aboutlater.
But uh he was in his shopworking on a steam charger, and
I was kind of bugging him hereand there, kind of wanted to
help out because I've alwaysbeen a naturally born,

(09:49):
mechanically inclined humanbeing.
And he was kind of like, nah,like, you know, there's no
there's no place for that,whatever.
Not so much the fact of being awoman, it was just really like
it was his man cave, it was histhing.
He wanted to figure it out.
I also think he was in herethrowing a wrench or two because
he couldn't get the thing torun, but you are there, anyways.
So I started hanging around.
I kept bugging him and bugginghim, and eventually just kind of

(10:10):
grew into all right, fine,great, hand me that wrench,
okay, put this carburetor on,whatever.
And it was kind of like sweepthe floors, and I was just happy
to be there.
And eventually it kind of justgrew into this idea of okay, I
know you have this background ingraphic design and freelance
editing, which I carried for agood while.

(10:31):
And he's like, Well, I've alwayswanted to do a TV show, so we
got this wild hair one day, andwe were talking about this dream
car we both love to have, and Iremember it like it was
yesterday.
It's one of my favorite memoriesthat I'm sure I will cherish for
the rest of my life.
But we're sitting here ranchingon this 72 charger, and in the
the TV or the shop TV, there wasthe video of Richard Petty's 71

(10:54):
Roadrunner, all blue, race carout, and I was like, that's a
cool car.
And he's like, Yes, I absolutelyadore it to own one of those.

SPEAKER_01 (11:02):
Let me intervene real quick.
By the way, YouTube was on 24-7in our shop, not to mention,
yeah, like all the time.
So, you know, we're we'recompletely getting you know our
inspiration as we're making thisgo.
We're we're watching stuff andgetting inspiration.

SPEAKER_00 (11:19):
It was grease in the wheels for sure.
So we're getting these ideas andwe're seeing all these people
all over YouTube, and thankfullyour playlist was pretty diverse.
Um, and we got all these ideas,and then a week later, before I
knew it, this guy's looking at71 satellites and 71
roadrunners, and oh, they're inAlabama or they're Mississippi
or whatever.

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And um, we knew somebody who hada semi-professional camera,
like, all right, let's bring thecameras, maybe we'll film it,
maybe not.
Let's go on this road trip.
So we go on this road trip, filmthe whole thing.
We have a friend of ours at thetime uh edit it and turn it into
this video, and we're like,okay, let's just run with this.
And we we kept up this wholeproduction and we went with this

(12:01):
whole Mad Max vibe of it all.
And we rallied a bunch of peoplein our town for the first month
or two because we really wantedto have our own URL.
So on YouTube, you have to haveat least 100 subscribers and be
like 30 days old.
I think that's still the sameparameters, but anyways, we
rallied around and we're like,okay, we'll release the YouTube

(12:22):
video after we have a real URLbecause nobody wants to go to
youtube.com forward slash dashRK, you know.
Okay, indeed to establishourselves in the best way or put
our best foot forward.
So that's kind of where it allstarted, and we released one
episode and we're like, okay,cool, got a thousand views, like
that's so awesome.
Let's release the next one.

SPEAKER_01 (12:43):
And then we also this is why you have to have
someone young in your groupbecause good point.
I'm only just now starting tokind of understand what she just
said.
You know, I mean, you know,technologically, I'm I'm not the
computer guy, so having her beable to transmit all this and go

(13:07):
to YouTube.
I was told to go on YouTube along time ago, but I just didn't
know how.

SPEAKER_00 (13:13):
No, you didn't understand branding, so you knew
that having our URL was the bestway to kickstart this thing, and
we're like, okay, you know, wecame up with all these
hypotheticals of what if we fallflat on our faces, or what if we
grow instantly, or like allthese different scenarios, and
we're like, you know, we'll justfigure it out as it goes.
And at the time we were kind oflike just messing around because

(13:35):
we were at the height of theCOVID lockdown and we weren't
going anywhere, we weren't doinganything, and there were plenty
of cars around us, and we werealso at the point of buying more
that were like, all right, well,this is a good way to socially
distance ourselves.

SPEAKER_04 (13:50):
Which we did, which we did in the shop.
And that that's so interestingbecause you you you seem the
perfect creative duo, the two ofyou.
And you seem to uh um fit eachother, you know, where where one
has experience, the other hasuh, you know, you you have all

(14:12):
the skills that I'llalternatingly need.
And that's the way Doug and Iare on this podcast with each
other.
Like I there's no way I could dowhat he does, and I bring my own
special sauce to the mix.
So talk for a little bit, if youwould, about being creative
partners and your ability tokind of fit, fit with each
other.

SPEAKER_00 (14:30):
I definitely want to start this because the one thing
that I noticed from the get-gois the vision that he's always
had for anything he does.
So when he's fabricating metalor he's putting together a
bicycle, or the most impressiveto me is really when he sees a

(14:52):
video in his brain, andsometimes it's hard for him to
properly articulate it allbecause there's all these crazy
great ideas like flowing throughhis brain.
So just watching him do it hasalways been something that has
inspired the living heck out ofme because I feel like I have
pretty good creative skills insome places, but the

(15:13):
visualization is really ahighlight and a skill that he
carries that I don't I don'twant to necessarily say that I
don't carry, but I think hecarries for the team here, where
he can give me the idea and giveme the play-by-play of what he's
thinking.
And then my creative brain comesin to where I'm like, okay, this
is how it's gonna be edited,this is gonna be the music we're

(15:36):
gonna use, this is this is howI'm gonna make it look.
We have it shot.
So it's really cool because,like you were saying, with your
relationship, ours is verysimilar to where if he doesn't
do something, I do it, or a lotof times even in the shop, he
does things that I learn so muchfrom.
And then there's things likewhen it comes to powder coating
and seracoding something thathas been self-taught, or I've

(15:58):
self-taught myself, he picks up,you know, and or in a project or
a build, he he puts thatresponsibility on me.
He takes over something else.

SPEAKER_01 (16:09):
I think that's more what it is.
I'm like, oh, Caroline canpowder coat this.
Wait, Caroline can pair this upfor me.

SPEAKER_04 (16:16):
You know, now it's she's yeah, I mean, she's
something else, man.
You you you open up these videosand just like, oh my gosh, she
cracked that transmission open.
She's pulling this cut, she'sand then I see her out in a
paint splattered shirt.
She's she's you know, expertlyputting this.
There's it's almost hypnotic towatch when somebody's man, get

(16:37):
that get gets that paint linegoing and back and forth.
Um, just good stuff.
She can do it all.
So, James, do you agree withwhat she said?
You think she's got somethinghere?

SPEAKER_01 (16:47):
Absolutely.
Yeah, she's uh I mean, I I'vebeen dissecting, you know, this
was a dream of mine, you know,to be uh do a TV show or
something, you know, for a long,long time.
I mean, since we were kids, youknow, we'd go to the movies and
you know, we want to be in themovies or or you know, write a
movie or do something alongthose lines.

(17:07):
With my buddy, one of my bestfriends out in California, um,
we used to talk about it all thetime, and we still do.
We still do talk about, youknow, oh, this would make a
great movie, or this would doyou know, it would be fun to
shoot this this way or that way.
Um, we still have thoseconversations, but uh he's well
anyway when we when she'stalking about vision, I've spent

(17:33):
probably like you guys, over thelast 10 to 15 years watching
other shows.
I don't just watch the show whenI watch someone if I watch a TV
show or I watch another YouTubeshow, I'm watching how they shot
it, and I'm wondering how thatmade like why am I interested in
this, you know, and I constantlyanalyzing that video and holy

(17:57):
crap, I just watched this for anhour and a half.
Why am I why am I so into this?
And so I I look at that video ina different way, as if I was
shooting it from a camera andvisualizing myself shooting it
as a camera, and that's I thinkwhere a lot of that comes from.
Talking about where I'm I'mvisualizing how this is gonna

(18:18):
look on camera when we'reshooting, and then she takes it
and goes, Oh, you know, when Iwhen I edit it down, she takes
it and goes, I see this now, andthen makes it just so much
better because she can put theright music to it, she puts the
right voiceover on it.
Yes, what's going on when we'rewhen we're doing something, or
if we're doing in fast motion,showing our work, uh showing

(18:42):
what's happening and why she canexplain that to our audience.
And um and uh again, I wastalking to you guys earlier
about you know, you can listento her voice all day long.
It's it's uh it's fantastic,very pleasing, very pleasing.
She's got a radio voice.
Uh absolutely in saying thatit's um kind of like yours,
Christian.

(19:02):
Oh, well, thank you for that.

SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
That's all I bring to the table, and I'm not just a
free face, but I would tell you,and I I told you this when we
were talking before, thank youfor your kind words, but the
production values of your show,just off the charts.
You you both have this reallywarm chemistry that works.
I mean, for for my money, it'sjust as good, uh, if not better,

(19:28):
than anything on TV.
So I think you guys just keepshipping, keep putting it out
there, and you are destined forgreatness.
So if Doug doesn't have anythingelse here, let's climb into the
nearest DeLorean, go 88 miles anhour, back to where it all
happened.
If it's okay with Caroline, Iwould like to start with James.
Let's talk about James's firstcar.

(19:48):
Where did you get it?
Where did it come from?
And what was it?

SPEAKER_01 (19:52):
Uh, 66 Mustang jacked up in the back.
Oh, wow.
Smashed match on, or the wheelsdid not match on it.
I remember that.
It was probably as close to JoeDirt as you could probably get
in a 289 automatic.
Um, again, the air shocks in theback were were key.
The wheels were were too big tofit into the wheel wells.

(20:14):
I remember this.
And I I mean, I specificallyremember doing donuts and that
thing and just having thebiggest smile on my face doing
it.
Um, and uh I got it by working,I worked in a restaurant, and
the chef at the restaurant, Iwas a dishwasher, um, he kind of

(20:35):
sold it to me on a you know,give me a hundred every two
weeks kind of thing, and youknow, that's that's how I got
it.
Um, and it it was a time in the80s where you could buy a muscle
car that was fully functioned,not rusted out for 2,000 bucks,

(20:55):
you know.
I mean, yeah, buy that 68 Camaroor that 66 Mustang, or I mean,
heck, Dodge chargers, man.
You could you could buy uh mybrother bought a 69 Dodge
charger for 500 bucks, you know,in 1906.
I mean, so you know, those timesI think that's where I got my
influence from is both mybrothers, you know, at the time.

(21:17):
I've my I have uh two olderbrothers uh that I was living in
New Mexico with, and one was thebig Chevy guy, that's all he had
was Chevy's, he was race Chevy,big Chevy truck, and then uh my
other brother uh he was BigMopar guy, big Mopar and um uh

(21:37):
Ford.
So he had Ford Mustangs and uhDodges.
So those guys would argue allthe time about what was better,
and I just took all thatinfluence, and I think you see
it in my shop, it's it's Moparand Chevy, and I have one Ford.
Um, because I'm not a big Fordguy, but uh but I will say it's

(21:58):
Mopar and Chevy pretty much.
You she'll she'll attest tothat.

SPEAKER_04 (22:02):
Volkswagen and Volkswagen, of course, you know,
which is that's it, yeah, andhopefully it this won't convey
uh over the audio of thepodcast, but they're sitting in
uh over their shoulders.
You can see uh this massiveGoodyear banner, Continental
tires, I think a Texaco sign uphere.

(22:24):
Uh you'll see it if if if we getthis up on the YouTube channel,
but um just love the shop that'stheir studio everything.
Yeah, you go on YouTube, you'llsee it, and it's awesome.
Well, it started as a man cave,then became a shop, and now is a
studio, and you know, and Iguess now it's Caroline's cave.
Speaking of Caroline, what wasyour first car?

SPEAKER_00 (22:45):
My first cool car or first uncool car, that's a real
question.

SPEAKER_04 (22:50):
Well, let's let's neat leave no automobile behind,
and let's hear about the uncoolone too.
We just won't spend a lot oftime with it.

SPEAKER_00 (22:56):
Uh, the first uncool one and the first real car I
ever had was a 2001 DodgeDakota.
Little extended cab.
It was a good point A to point Bcar, but right around the point
where it was ready to go, uh,the control module and it
decided to go out.
So I was driving down the road,it would honk the horn randomly,
the wipers would go off, or I'dbe driving home at night,

(23:19):
leaving my first job, and thelights would go on and off.
So that one, I think it stuckaround for probably about two or
three years before eventually wesold it off to somebody who I
hope fixed it.
I'm not really sure.

SPEAKER_02 (23:34):
So you're uh that's not your first cool car.
Was your was your first cool carthe car that followed the
Dakota?

SPEAKER_00 (23:45):
It partially.
So at the time I kind of justlike borrowed cars and borrowed
my brother's car.
Um, then eventually when Iturned 18, I decided it was a
good idea to go buy a financedvehicle.
And then about a year afterowning that, I got into a pretty
solid accident with it and theyended up totaling the car.
So I went back to being carless.

(24:07):
Didn't have a whole lot of moneyto my name.
And I ended up getting a 1969Ford Fairlane fastback that was
pretty risky.
But living on a 12 by five mileisland going to work, it's not
too terribly far.
So it was a pretty solid point Ato point B car.
And um, that's really the carthat got me into finding my

(24:29):
passion for classic cars.
Um I worked in restaurants atthe time, and most of the
restaurants around here willjust have you park in their
normal parking lot.
Some places have you like parkin the back or whatever, but
everybody enjoyed it because itwas a classic car in the parking
lot of all these brand new cars.
So I'd have people come up andleave notes on the car when I'm

(24:50):
at work, or I'd be getting outbecause they'd see me roll.
Oh wow, they'd stop me andthey'd start telling me about
whatever.
And the funny thing about thisfair lane is it wasn't badged as
a fair lane, or at least itwasn't openly out there, it just
somebody stuck GT on the side ofit.
So people thought it was a FordGT.
Like, whenever I got it, it waslabeled as a Ford GT.
So people like, oh, I used tohave a GT, and I'm like, did

(25:14):
you?

SPEAKER_01 (25:15):
I gotta intervene here just slightly.
Do you want to tell them whatthe nickname of this car was?

SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
Well, so here's the funny thing.
Um, after driving it for about ayear and him rescuing me,
because the thing always broke,I would either have power
steering issues, the batterywould die, um, or God knows what
else carburetor issues, and he'dalways be the one I'd call to
help me out.
Um, but it was so rusty that itum it got the nickname the soft

(25:42):
shell crab because if you put iton a lift, you have to have four
by fours running from front torear and from driver to
passenger, otherwise itbasically like almost look like
it was melting over the lift,which my goodness sounds like
you're bragging, and I I justunderstand that this is not

(26:03):
something to brag about.

SPEAKER_01 (26:05):
Okay, so the daily occurrence with this car as she
showed up at the shop would bepieces missing off of it, like
paint chips with large rust, youknow, holes coming off weight
reduction, and uh and I mean,you know, uh she had duct tape
and areas holding paint on andstuff.

(26:25):
I mean, it it was really it wasto the point where it was it was
just unsafe.
Um, you know, it was a parts carfor somebody if they wanted to,
but I mean, really, if she ifshe was, you know, to get into
an accident or T-boned oranything like that, you know,
the cars, the cars really arenot that safe anyway from those

(26:45):
days, right?
One that's that's that thatrusty and that that soft, it's
just um, you know, but it lookedgreat from like 50 feet away,
and that's all really matteredto me at the time.
It's just cool for for a 50feet, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (27:00):
And that's that's a big car.

unknown (27:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (27:03):
And it was a two-door, right?
Yeah, it was a two-door, yeah,with really long, heavy doors,
right?

SPEAKER_00 (27:09):
Yeah, it well, maybe not heavy anymore, but heavy
enough.
Also, the door lights didn'twork very well.

SPEAKER_01 (27:16):
They're getting lighter every day.

SPEAKER_00 (27:17):
It did get lighter every day.
Every time I take a prettysharp, like right-hand turn,
that whole door would fly open.
It was, I think why I sound likeI'm bragging about it is because
it's such a nostalgic vehiclefor me now because of what it's
brought me and how many coolpeople I've met, and how I've
kind of in a way rediscoveredmyself, and especially at that

(27:38):
time in my life, being 18 now to25, like my life has changed a
lot, and that car was there forit, and it somehow got you to
still put up with me, so I'mcool with this.

SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
Yeah, but it's long gone.
It yeah, I'm still in thehospital.

SPEAKER_02 (27:55):
We're working on you, um that, Rodney and and you
sold it, right?
Um, to fund your first business,which actually helped a lot with
this business, right?
There's a nice tie-in with yourcreativity.

SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
Yeah, it um at the time, like you said, it was kind
of unsafe.
And the guy who bought it, I'msurprised he bought it because
he thought he was gonna restoreit.
But I was like, you know, ifthat's the path you want to go
with it, I didn't have the meansat the time, and I was ready to
to get out of working for otherpeople and start my own first
business um in t-shirt printing.
Uh, it it kind of just it workedout in such a great way.

(28:32):
I can barely understand it tothis day because it was just the
most perfect scenario at thattime.
Um, and right around then, too,it also helped me live the
lifestyle I needed to live andobviously put food on my table,
and then initially it kind ofsprung me into where I am now at
the time.
I was just kind of doing it andit kept growing and kept getting

(28:54):
bigger and bigger.
And right around that time, too,we started really committing to
the YouTube channel, and itreally helped because we were
able to create our own merch andI have a background in graphic
design, so it was this nicecorrelation of okay, we can make
the YouTube channel look prettyand we can make video graphics,
and you know, the whole nineyards that go into it.
I know, I know you guys totallyunderstand that.

(29:15):
So um, yeah, it was it was areally good blessing in
disguise.
The time it didn't seem like itjust felt like a very strange
adventure, but now I definitelyuh cherish those memories for
sure.

SPEAKER_02 (29:29):
So your uh what was your second car?
And then then we we have to askJames about his because I think
you guys were twins.
Twiningly the family came andseparated by a few years.

SPEAKER_00 (29:42):
Yeah, well, so my second car I've been really
wanting to get into buildingphysical because at that time I
had been around enough people inthe automotive industry or in
the automotive hobby who weredoing full restorations.
I was watching him do it and Iwas like, I just want my own
car.
Like, I it's not that I didn'twant to help.
Anybody, but I wanted somethingthat I could claim as my own and

(30:02):
make my own.
Um, so I bought a 1974Volkswagen Beetle in a small
town basically in centralGeorgia and pulled the trigger.
I'd saved up like every time I'dgo to work, I'd save probably 50
bucks and I'd just throw it in ashoebox.
And eventually I was like, okay,this is gonna be my car money
for not a reliable vehicle, fora project vehicle.

(30:24):
And um, one day I pulled thetrigger on it because I made a
stupid offer to a guy and hewanted to sell it that bad and
bought it.

SPEAKER_01 (30:31):
All unbonounced to me.

SPEAKER_00 (30:32):
Yeah, he had no idea, by the way.
I just came, I showed him up.
Um, I left at like 11 o'clock inthe morning with another friend
of ours and came back at likenine o'clock, rolled it off the
trailer, it barely ran.
I barely knew how to drive stickat that point, too.
I was kind of just winging it,and uh he was along for the ride
after that.

SPEAKER_01 (30:54):
I was just like, oh, it's a Volkswagen, you know,
like I mean at that time it wasjust like, oh, you know, I'm all
muscle car, I'm all about everymuscle card out there, and you
know, I was like, ah, it's aVolkswagen.
But then, you know, with withthe way it was, it was a
Volksrod, you know, the way itwas all set up.
I could I started wrapping myhead around it, and then uh

(31:15):
seeing how passionate she wasabout the car, you know, what
are you gonna do?
You're gonna you're gonnasupport whatever she wants to
get into.
And now I'm I'm really into theVolkswagen world.
I I never thought that I wouldbe this much into the Volkswagen
world.

SPEAKER_00 (31:28):
Well, but it also started with your car, too.

SPEAKER_02 (31:32):
Your second car, right?

SPEAKER_01 (31:34):
What my second car?
Well, and that was a Volkswagen,right?
Well, I mean, uh it's a I hadthe funny thing was is I had I
I'd sold my my Mustang to get acrotch rocket motorcycle, right?
So right, everybody wanted acrotch rocket motorcycle because

(31:54):
Tom Cruise, so I do that.
Um, can't afford the insuranceon it, so I ended up selling the
motorcycle, and my next car Ihad to get something that was
affordable.
And uh so we went and my dad atthe time he he's like, hey,
there's a 1974 super beetle forsale in the telen cell or

(32:18):
whatever it was uh at the thetown we lived in, and he he's
like, Do you know how to drivestick?
And I'm I'm I'm like, uh youknow, sure.
And I was like 16, 17, somethinglike that.
And uh so this has all happenedin like a three or in a year's

(32:38):
period of time.
I had these three vehicles, butuh we go and look at it, 500
bucks.
So it's$500 for this car.
I drive that literally.
I I know how to ride amotorcycle, I come off a
motorcycle, she knows how to dothe clutch and all that.
But and I'd driven a stickbefore, but I it'd been it'd

(32:59):
been a while, probably I wasprobably 14, you know.
So I I drive it home acrosstown, get it home, we get it
insured, all that stuff, get aplate on it, and I drive that
for I don't know, I think twoyears uh through my high school
years, and uh I I couldn't killthat car.

SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
What color was it?

SPEAKER_01 (33:22):
It was blue.
Um, and I'm not kidding you.
I piled people in it.
We partied in that car.
It was it was really good.
I jumped it a couple of times inthe desert.
Um, could not kill the car.
But I had this, I don't know.
I had just I don't know that Ididn't want to, I didn't want to
work on another Volkswagen.

(33:43):
Like I did, it was just kind oflike I don't even think I ever
changed the oil in that car.
Like I don't even I didn't workon cars before I was being a
teenager, and so I I don't know,it was um I probably should have
kept it, you know, hindsight,but um I ended up selling that
thing after two years, I endedup selling it for 500 bucks.

(34:05):
So I took two years in solar for500 bucks.

SPEAKER_04 (34:08):
I mean, if we'd only knew to keep the fun ones, you
know, the ones that reallyreminded us of the great times.
But you know, I guess sometimesin life you don't know when
you're going through a greattime.
And so that's why this show Ithink is so resonates with so
many people, because man, I hadsuch a great time in that car,
you know, such a great time inthat car.

SPEAKER_02 (34:27):
So and and uh Christian, if I may, when uh
when Caroline was talking aboutthe Fairlane, I just want to
share this.
I had a good friend in highschool.
So you mentioned somebody put GTon it.
So I had this friend in highschool, he had a Chevy sprint,
which was basically a Suzuki,and he had changed, I guess he
had to replace the hatch, and heput it was a different color,

(34:50):
the uh rear hatch, and he putall these different things on
it.
And I remember him telling medifferent labels of different
cars.
We used to walk around thejunkyard sometimes after school,
believe it or not.
We probably should have been inschool at that time, but trying
to pick up girls, I guess, inthe junkyard.
But go ahead, how do we?
That's the place to do it.
But yeah, um what he uh he toldme he got like a parking ticket

(35:12):
in the senior lot at school.
I was one year older than him.
And uh he's like, Yeah, theticket said like it said all
these different cars, and noneof them was even my car because
the guy just wrote down hedidn't know the principal didn't
know anything about cars, hejust wrote what he saw.
Well that'll teach you.

SPEAKER_00 (35:30):
When I got that speeding ticket, I asked the cop
in a joking way when I saw himat the courthouse on my like
court date.
Um I said, Do can I dispute thefact that this isn't my car?
And the guy just looked at mebecause I was like, This isn't
this car.
I was being such a smart, smartteenager.

SPEAKER_04 (35:51):
Be careful with that.
Be careful.
It's a very fine line betweenspending the weekend and the
slammer, and yeah.
So we we don't want that tohappen to Caroline.

SPEAKER_01 (35:59):
I want to touch on something now.
1974 Beetle today is much coolerthan in 1986.

SPEAKER_04 (36:09):
Good point, very good point.

SPEAKER_01 (36:11):
So understand me driving into the high school
parking lot with a$500 1974Super Beetle.
Okay.
Now, I was the only one therelike this, okay.
If I didn't hustle out and getin my car, okay, from class, if

(36:31):
I got some, you know, a teacherneeded to talk to me for a
little bit after on our lastclass, I would come out and my
bug would be bounced sideways byall my buddies.

SPEAKER_02 (36:42):
Yeah, they they picked it up and moved it.

SPEAKER_01 (36:45):
Yeah, and I had to sit there and wait for the cars
to move for me to be able tomove.
So understand I was made fun ofquite a bit with that bug.
Um, so maybe that's where youknow, all that's long gone.
I don't hold any ill will.
I love those guys.
I hope they get a good laugh outof that.

SPEAKER_04 (37:02):
Now, let me ask, I love that.
That is a fantastic story.
Thank you for sharing.
Now, what would have happened ifyou would have pulled in uh
instead of uh the Beatle, uh, a97 Viper?
I think that would have gottenyou way more street cred.
And we're gonna move forward alittle bit in time because I
love this story.
And uh you gotta drop whatyou're doing, go to YouTube,

(37:25):
type in H H wheels, and look atthe Viper episode.
I think it's a multi-episodearc.
Do I have that right?
Does it take several episodes totell that story, or is it only
in one?
Just one so far.
Just one, just one.
Okay.
But on number two right now.
Can can y'all please talk aboutthat?
Because I love that episode.
And how how did it start?

(37:47):
How did that, where did it comefrom?
And um, Caroline, can you tellthat story?
And James hop in is needed.

SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
Yeah, I I think maybe if you give a little bit
of a backstory on why you'vealways wanted a viper and how
forever, or at least my forever,at least the last like five, six
years, it's felt like it'sendless talk about how this
viper is his Mount Everest.
It's this big hill or this bigmountain he wants to climb.
And that stuck with me eversince he mentioned it.

SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
But if you give a little bit like details of why
you always wanted a Viper, Ithink me explaining how I found
a Viper will definitely Yeah, Iuh since '96, when they came out
with the GTS, that was the carthat you know was something that
was unitanium for me.
Um in 96, I was 26 years old,really new in my business, uh,

(38:41):
never, you know, living paycheckto paycheck, uh, not really
knowing if my business is gonnasucceed or or fail.
You you're you're in that thatmode that first 10 years of it,
or you know, and and I'm justbusting my tail and just
working.
And uh you know, going throughlife, uh raising kids, uh you

(39:03):
don't really have an extra, youknow, fifty thousand dollars to
throw down on a vehicle.
And um so you know, you don'tfinance a vehicle like that
either.
You know, if you're going tohave toys, they have to be able
to be outright purchased, andthen you you're the caretaker.
You're not in my opinion, uh acar like that.

(39:26):
I mean, I could have I I got tothe point where I could
certainly have gone and firedfinanced something like that,
but uh it doesn't make sense tobe you know to be doing that.
That's just not smart money.

SPEAKER_04 (39:38):
I mean didn't quite fit your life at the time, to be
sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:42):
Yeah, so uh, you know, as I got older, uh, I
think 2017, I got really seriousabout thinking that I'm going to
invest in one of these vipers,and I want a 96 or 97 GTS, and I
don't really care about thecolor.
Uh, and at the time I didn'treally think of condition being

(40:02):
uh an you know, I probablywanted at the time in 2017, you
could have bought a GTS for like50,000 bucks.
Uh I hadn't I didn't have aspare 50,000 at that time.
I was still kind of coming outof trying to figure out my
business and and stepping awayand trying to figure out how to
sell it, that kind of thing.
Um it it took several years.

(40:25):
I mean, we got into I mean, sixyears later actually, before I
could sell my business and andit was the right time and that
kind of stuff.
But I told my wife that my dealis when I sell my business that
I'd like to have, I want to geta viper, you know, I just want
to have a viper from 2017 to 20uh 23.

(40:48):
They doubled in price, you know,should have bought it back in
2017, and then I would have hadsomething that was worth the
investment, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 (40:56):
Which I've got a huge ear full about on a regular
basis.

SPEAKER_01 (40:59):
Well, it was just like you know, for for six
years.
I mean, I've been really seriousabout we need to buy a Viper.
I gotta buy the Viper, you gottabuy, you know, I'll find it.
Planting the seed.

SPEAKER_00 (41:09):
Yes, the right one just never came along.
And and every year in likeJanuary, February, he and my
stepmom would take an RV tripout west.
They go see family, they go hangout, like they just they go live
it up for two months, especiallywhen he had his bicycle
business.
It was a really good way to kindof relax because that was the
absolute low point of ourtourist season.

(41:30):
So it was a good time to leavethe island.
And um it this I feel like is aperfect example of perfect
timing because I had justjoined, I think it was the Viper
owners or Viper Club America,basically on Facebook, and they
put all kinds of stuff on there,people working their cars, cars
for sale, whatever.

(41:50):
And there was this post.
So this car that I ended uppurchasing was in the comments
of a post.
It wasn't even an actual post.
So this guy was talking about Iit was uh a wrecked Viper, and
he was looking for basically abody that he could put his power
plant into.
And somebody had shared thiscar.

(42:10):
So this car apparently had beenpreviously posted on Facebook
Marketplace.
I can't remember how long back,but anyway, someone shared this
post about it still being onFacebook Marketplace, and it was
truly the worst-looking 97 ViperGTS I'd ever seen.
It's blue, has the whitestripes, but the headlights are

(42:32):
murdered out, the taillights aremurdered out, the interior is a
little kind of ragged on.
It's got 140 plus thousand mileson it, which wow is unheard of
because most of the people theydrive it, sure, but most of the
people who drive their vipershave less than 50,000 or just
hit 50,000 or like 100,000 milesplus was unheard of on a viper.

(42:55):
So that's why they chose thisbecause the body itself was in
great shape, but the motor powerplant was just undesirable and
just it didn't make sense.
I think the guy also had turboedand did a bunch of crazy stuff
to the one that he wrecked.
So I saw this and I reach out tothe guy.
This guy's up in Minnesota,we're down here in South
Carolina, and I'm talking to himback and forth for like a month

(43:18):
or two.
And I'm thinking, okay, I don'thave the funds to put down on a
viper, but I bring it up to mystepmom and I'm like, hey, you
know, he just sold his business.
This is something you wanted todo.
What do you think?
And she really helped out a lotwith the money side of things.
And ironically, while they wereon that road trip, this whole
came about.
He went and looked at a couplevipers.

(43:39):
There's this one guy, where'sAndy?

SPEAKER_01 (43:40):
He's in Arizona, Beaumont, Texas, or whatever.
But meanwhile, on nowhere closeto you.

SPEAKER_00 (43:46):
He's looking at vipers.

SPEAKER_01 (43:48):
No, I'm making like detours on the trip out west to
go and vipers on the way out totwo.
Oh, you got it bad, man.
You got the fever bad.
So I'm like, uh, well, I justsold our, you know, sold the
business.
I'm like, we're doing this, youknow.
I'm gonna get my viper.
And uh, so I'm trying to figureout he's trying to make it work.
I'm trying to figure out okay,we can buy a bad viper and go

(44:11):
and road trip at home.
Me and Caroline.

SPEAKER_00 (44:14):
Oh, he's also trying to make a whole production out
of it.

SPEAKER_01 (44:16):
So I'm thinking in my mind, I only I only want to
get a viper if we can makecontent with it.
You know, that's that's my wholeprocess.
Like, oh, you know, we've got aviper, we'll buy it out west,
and we'll road trip at home andwe'll catalog all that and make
content with it.

SPEAKER_00 (44:31):
So that's my whole mind you, I'm over here stewing
the pot.
And I this is why I was like, Ineed to let my stepmom know that
she cannot let him buy a viperlike that.

SPEAKER_02 (44:39):
Right, no matter what.

SPEAKER_00 (44:41):
She's a good force of nature, she'll just be like,
That's that's a no, and it's nothappening.
So thankfully, he was easilyswayed by that.
Or, or what she did is she didlike subliminal commenting where
it was like, Oh, you know, it'snot that cool.

SPEAKER_04 (44:54):
I feel like we can do better, we can do better.

SPEAKER_00 (44:56):
You know, for a 55-year-old man, this is gonna
look you like she she laid iton.
She did really good, it wasgreat.
Anyway, so I'm bringing thiswhole idea to fruition.
Then I'm like, you know, tryingto talk to this guy about hey,
we want to film it for aYouTube, and then we get in this
whole conversation.
This guy has a background inproduction, and like it this
took like two months almost tomake this entire thing happen.

(45:18):
So I got really lucky.
And thankfully, when my dad's onhis RV trip, he doesn't really
keep tabs on me.
Like when we're workingtogether, it's always like, Hey,
can we come to the shop at thistime?
Like, we have a schedule, but atthis time we were just like
doing our own thing, separatehuman beings.
So I made the deal, I gave theguy a deposit, and then what
happened is this huge snowstormhit Minnesota.

(45:40):
So all the travel plans andeverything got postponed.
And I was talking to my nowfiance, and I was like, We have
to drive this home for tworeasons.
Content because my dad will killme if I buy this car without
telling him and not make a videoof it.
Second of all, I want to have1500 more miles in a Viper than
my dad.
Just so we ended up setting thewhole deal up, and this guy was

(46:04):
like, You want to do what?
And I was like, Yeah, yeah, it'sfine.
So we fly to um we fly toMilwaukee, and then we ended up
getting a rental car, drove twohours north, bought the car.

SPEAKER_04 (46:18):
This is on the show, by the way.
This is on the show.

SPEAKER_00 (46:20):
Yeah, bought the car, paid for it, the whole
thing, and then we drove it allthe way home to South Carolina
on two bad tires and two newtires that do not fit the car.

SPEAKER_04 (46:30):
Amazing you're still here, by the way.
But yeah, so there is that.

SPEAKER_00 (46:33):
Well, the thing is, I don't like the cold.
I've kind of mentioned what wetalked about before.
Being in South Carolina,anything cold I don't like.
They had a freaking warm winterup there.
So although there was snow onthe ground, it wasn't slick, it
wasn't super icy, which kind ofsucked for some people there,
but for us it was great.
So making it home wasn't too,too bad, other than the fact
that we're like trying to scruball the black paint off the

(46:55):
headlights.
I mean, it again what you can.
It's a miracle that we made ithome in one piece, but then not
to mention, I still had likeanother two, three weeks to hide
the car at my house in mygarage.
And where we live, word gets outpretty fast.
So I couldn't drive the caranything.
I literally had to buy thisthing until he got home.

(47:15):
And then I remember calling himand saying, Hey, I bought a car
because before we left, we madea pack, we're not buying any
cars, like, not gonna happen.
Okay, and he has his wholetemper tantrum, and then all of
a sudden I roll up to the houseand he's just speechless.
And it's just it it was so muchfun.

SPEAKER_04 (47:33):
It was it was man, you're giving me you're giving
me the goose flesh here.
Golly, you gotta go see thisepisode.
Y'all gotta go see this.
I need one of my kids to do thatfor me.

SPEAKER_01 (47:43):
My God.
You got me.
Hey, by the way, she boughtthree cars while I was gone.

SPEAKER_04 (47:48):
Oh that that yeah, that'll teach you to make a pact
with that one.

SPEAKER_00 (47:51):
Um Viper made up for it, okay?

SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
Viper made up for it for sure.
But I'm water under the bridge.
Let's not go any further.
Let's tell all of our viewershipand listenership to go check it
out on YouTube.
It let's pivot to Caroline.
And Doug wanted to ask you aboutyour 356.
Can we can we get into that justa little bit?

(48:14):
Doug, was there anythingspecific or did you just want
her to did we want to sit backand let her regale us a detail?

SPEAKER_02 (48:20):
Yeah, um I believe she sold or traded a Volkswagen
thing for it.
So with that, Caroline, tell usabout it.

SPEAKER_00 (48:31):
Yeah, I did actually.
That I had bought this, that wasone of the cars I bought.

SPEAKER_03 (48:35):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:35):
Um one of those three that we just talked about,
um, because it came up for sale.
And I was like, oh, we'll justgo look at it.
Like, you know, it's close by.
I've been wanting one, then Ibought it, and then I did a full
restoration on it.
Yeah, and we went out toCalifornia and I saw this 356
from a mutual friend who used torun a car show I used to go to.

(48:57):
And he had this 356 that anolder gentleman had basically
given him.
Um, he unfortunately had uhstage four cancer, so he's
looking for someone to give thecar to kind of thing.
And um, my friend, he is havinga baby, and it just didn't make
sense to jump into another fullrestoration.
So he offered it up for trade onFacebook because he does a lot

(49:22):
of off-roading kind of stuff,and this thing that I've built
and pretty much finished wasjust the ideal car.
And I know he was specificallylooking for a thing, so I kind
of just put some feelers outthere.
I was like, you know, let's justa little shot in the dark.
I've always wanted to own a 356ever since I was a little kid.
Like, even before I was intoclassic cars, it was like the

(49:42):
car I wanted to have at mywedding.
And when I came up to this carand it popped up, we had another
mutual friend who was justfinished building one and he
owns a few.
And I don't know, at the time itwas just kind of this weird gray
area where I was like, okay,can't get too excited, but I'm
excited and I was like, I'm notbetting on it, like I'm just not

(50:03):
thinking about it.
I was not letting myself bask inany glory until that car was in
my possession in my own garageor shop.
So eventually it all came tofruition, and now we have it,
and it's still unreal to meevery time I walk into my shop
to see it because you know wetalked about how the Viper was
his Mount Everest.
I don't even know if I'm this islike my Antarctica.

(50:26):
It's so I didn't even think Iwas gonna see this at this point
in my life.
So um I feel incredibly blessedto not only have the means to be
able to build it, but also haveit in my possession.

SPEAKER_01 (50:39):
Yeah, you know, they're 10 to 20,000 bucks for a
kit or and then the real onesare millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_00 (50:48):
So it's again one of those things that was just like
I just never thought that thiswould be in my world right now.

SPEAKER_02 (50:55):
And uh go ahead, though.
Oh, I was gonna say you youmentioned uh your fiance.
Um, will the car be ready foryour wedding?

SPEAKER_00 (51:02):
That's the goal.

SPEAKER_02 (51:04):
Awesome.

SPEAKER_04 (51:05):
Love that answer.

SPEAKER_02 (51:06):
Love that answer.

SPEAKER_01 (51:07):
Yeah, now a few things, but we we are gonna be
uh pretty hot and heavy on it inthe next few weeks.
Uh so you'll see some episodescoming out on that on the 356.

SPEAKER_02 (51:17):
And yeah, just just the buying, and then the episode
where it's up and Caroline'slike, Well, this is rusted.
This is rusted.
Like it made me think uh it'syour next uh soft shell crab,
right?

SPEAKER_00 (51:29):
Well, the funny thing is as we talked about it
when I had mentioned it to him,and uh some of our friends in
California at the time werelike, You need to own that car,
and we just looked at thepictures of the body and we're
like, even if everythingunderneath it is completely
roached out, the body is worththe trade.
And we're like agreed.
We went in it, went into it withthe lowest expectations.

(51:53):
So I think we were moderatelypleased, and then when we got
there, we're like, are weactually gonna own this?

SPEAKER_01 (52:00):
Like, is this the same, you know, locked up motor
and transmission problem that wehave with the the oval.
I mean, so we we we went throughsome uh locked up, I think we
went through three vehicles in arow with locked up engines that
we had to take out and boatanchor them out the back door.

SPEAKER_03 (52:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:21):
Um, so yeah, that's been kind of interesting.
You know, you got to have somespare engines hanging around
your shop for sure to do whatwe're doing right now.

SPEAKER_03 (52:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:31):
We like to keep the cars running and driving as
quickly as possible.

SPEAKER_02 (52:34):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (52:35):
Show people that you can do this, and I think that's
what our whole part about getwrenching is our motto, you
know.
And uh I think another reason itwas at a point where we were
thinking, why are we doing thisagain?
And and I was like, Well, it'snot just to see us on YouTube,
it's it's more to motivatepeople to get in their garages

(52:56):
and actually get out in thegarages, get wrenching.
You can do this.
If we can do this, you certainlycan do this.

SPEAKER_00 (53:03):
Because I think that's the fun thing about
trading, too, is this issomething we've never explored
um ever, really.
We've talked about it, we'vetossed it around with even
mutual friends, and it's justnever really come to fruition
like this.
So it's kind of cool to see likethis dopey little Volkswagen
thing that I was pretty blessedto not have a ton of money into

(53:23):
um to trade for something thatis so meaningful to us and to
me, uh, is wild.

SPEAKER_01 (53:32):
Yeah, sweat equity.
We had a lot of sweat equity inthat vehicle, so it was not a
lot of cash.
We're we're very car rich andcash poor right now.
Um, I think we're like at 33cars.
Four of them, 34 cars.
So whoa, yeah.
Um, so we we have plenty of carsto make content with, so we're

(53:54):
kind of not we need to tradeout.
We need to if we look at anothercar, we we have to try to get
rid of one in order to be ableto make room for it here.
And I have another lotsomewhere.
Well, I live on an island, so wehave another lot that we are
storing cars at, so it's not souh the disease, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (54:14):
I like but you don't want the cure.
Um well said.
I dig it, I dig it.
Well, this was just so much fun.
Thank you for uh spending sometime with us, and it was just
really a pleasure, Caroline andJames, to get to know you.
And for everybody out there,again, uh go to YouTube.

(54:36):
It's HH Wheels and over 200videos.
And we're not talking about youknow, 230-second episodes, we're
talking real meaty stuff.
You'll you'll be pleasantlysurprised by the production
values.
It's a blast, it's a lot of fun.
It's our favorite recentwormhole.

(54:56):
So, Caroline and James, thankyou both.
It was wonderful to meet you.

SPEAKER_00 (55:00):
Thank you for having us.

SPEAKER_01 (55:02):
Appreciate it, Doug.
Thanks, Christian.

SPEAKER_04 (55:04):
Yeah, we had a blast.
We're gonna have you back.
Yeah, no, well, yeah, he's he'stake taking the words out of my
mouth.
Yeah, what what I would love todo is have you back in uh, you
know, is it's kind of your showevolves and our show evolves.
I would love to just have youback and see, you know, maybe if
uh if the 33 cars become 66 carsbecomes 128 cars or whatever it

(55:25):
is, if we can if we can justmake that double.
That's a joke.
Sorry.
Oh, Jeff Jeff, somebody give himCPR quickly.
Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 (55:34):
Okay, let's get the Viper and the 356 done first,
Christian.
Take it easy.

SPEAKER_04 (55:38):
Yeah, we gotta end this show before somebody gets
hurt.
You have just heard two all thecars I've loved before the high
revving, low mileage, late modelherd, round the world.
Yes, authoritative podcast onautomotive nostalgia.
He is Doug Reach Him at Doug atCarsLove.com.
I am Christian, reach me atChristian at CarsLove.com.
He was Caroline, there wereJames, our new favorite people.

(56:00):
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