In this episode, hosts Chris Yano and Chad Peterman dive deep into one of the toughest parts of running and scaling a home services business—handling customer complaints and escalations. From miscommunications and missed appointments to leadership challenges and team accountability, they break down what it takes to turn fires into opportunities for growth.
Chad shares his perspective as a business leader at Peterman Brothers on why it’s crucial to own your mistakes, build a culture of accountability, and train your team to prevent future issues rather than just put out fires. You’ll also hear real examples of how his company manages escalations, handles refunds, and empowers frontline staff to resolve problems quickly and confidently.
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⏱️ Timecodes:
00:00 – Catching up & Halloween banter
03:30 – Episode intro: Firefighting in business
08:00 – Is the customer always right?
10:30 – Fixing the issue vs. fixing the process
13:00 – Preventing fires through training
16:00 – Leadership challenges in change management
20:00 – Creating safe spaces for feedback
21:00 – Common fires at Peterman Brothers
25:00 – The power of proactive communication
28:00 – Escalation chains & customer care
31:00 – Reading between the lines of complaints
34:00 – Learning from fires to improve the business
41:00 – Refunds vs. apologies: how to decide
44:00 – When you’re right but the customer feels wronged
46:00 – Accessibility & communication from leadership
48:00 – Key lessons and closing thoughts
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