July 23, 2025 • 27 mins
In this mind-bending episode of To The Spirit, Beck and Rachel peel back the glamorous skin of Hollywood to explore the strange and spiritual phenomena hiding behind celebrity faces.From soul walk-ins and overlays to cloned pop stars, parasiticentities, and the eerie symbolism of the Black Eye Club nothing is off-limits.
Are some public figures energetically replaced? Spirituallyinitiated? Or maybe… they were never truly human to begin with?
We dive deep into:
👁️ The Walk-In Theory and spiritual takeovers
👁️ Soul fragmentation, Sasha Fierce, and celebrity alter-egos
👁️ Clone conspiracies and swapped-out stars
👁️ Ritual possession and Hollywood as a soul farm
👁️The Black Eye Club and parasitic control
👁️ One-eye symbolism and elite allegiance
👁️ NPCs, empty shells, and the soul behind the screen
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Could you play that song for me?It's my favorite song.
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You're. Listening to to the Spirit
podcast. Welcome back listeners to to the
Spirit Podcast where the veil isthin and the tea is thick.
I'm back your host. And joining me as always is the
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radiant, ever intuitive Rachel. Hey, Rach.
Hello. Today we're going deep into one
of our juiciest themes yet, the ever shifting, often whispered
about realm of celebrity soul swaps, walk-ins and double S.
This episode is titled Who's Behind the Face Shifting Shells
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of Celebrity Souls? And I promise you, it's not just
another Hollywood gossip hour. We're peeling back the glam to
explore the strange, spiritual and downright eerie theories
about whether some celebrities are really themselves anymore.
Rachel, I have to ask you first,have you ever looked at a
celebrity and thought that is not the same person I used to
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watch or hear? That happens on a regular basis
these days, Beck. It does, especially since we do
the Beyond files. We're constantly pulling people
up, going what in the hell is going on?
Yeah, there are people there. Tik Toks are just specifically
dedicated to, you know, every time they open up, they're like,
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they got them. They they.
Yeah, they got them. Let's kick things off with
walk-ins. The concept comes from spiritual
circles and metaphysical literature.
Essentially, a soul agreement ismade where the original soul of
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a person exits and a new one steps in.
It's usually said to happen during trauma, illness, or at a
moment of deep despair. As the theory goes, this has
happened with more than a few celebrities.
One name that always comes up? Eminem.
Fans swear his vibe changed drastically after 2006.
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His lyrics, his eyes, even the way he carries himself.
Now it's like someone else is atthe wheel.
Yeah, he is a bit different and I feel like listening to his new
album he kind of leans more towards a certain agenda.
He used to say a lot of messed up stuff in his raps but it was
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really for the shock factor and now I feel like there's someone
pulling the strings. I think so.
I noticed his eyes weren't they blue or they were brown and then
they went blue. I swear I noticed differences in
his eyes. There's definitely differences
in his look and his vibe. Do you think some of these
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drastic personality changes actually could be walk-ins?
Yeah, and I think sometimes the walk in too is during their
performance, their quote UN quote alter ego comes in.
Well, let's not forget about Katy Perry.
Oh God, Remember her Christian pop phase?
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That was her beginning, right? Yeah.
Then boom, Illuminati I dark alter egos and then constant
references to selling her soul walk in ritual possession.
Or just one hell of APR shift. She probably sold her soul, now
she's a part of this. Like allegedly she went to
space, now she's got this joke of a tour that everyone's
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ripping her for. Didn't she take off out of the
country because of all this too?Probably all do.
They all just, you know, vanish when they're not getting their
way and when they're so out of touch with people they don't
understand that they don't just fart and everybody worships them
anymore. Well, there's also the lesser
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known but fascinating story of Jim Carrey, whose increasingly
metaphysical public statements left fans wondering did he have
an awakening or did something else take over entirely?
Some suggest his comedic personadied with his fame, and what
replaced him is a soul entirely different in frequency.
Well, you see that interview he had on that late night talk show
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where he was actually exposing? The Illuminati.
Yeah, like he did the triangle and he was sticking his tongue
out on the triangle and he's like, you know what I'm talking
about? And they're like, what?
And. Some people think that's an
industry plant though, when theydo that.
Sometimes I think they do push the symbolism just to get a
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reaction out of people because they know that it's something
that is discussed now. I think that could be true,
yeah. I think it used to be very
subtle until we all woke up and we're like, hey, this is what
this is. So then they kind of take that
and push it more for reaction. Now here's where it gets
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weirder. Soul overlays.
This is the idea that the original soul remains but
becomes suppressed while anotherconsciousness is layered over
it. Think of it like spiritual
gentrification. Some suspect Beyoncé's Sasha
Fierce persona was more than just branding.
What if it was an actual spiritual overlay?
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A walk in light, she said herself.
I have someone else that takes over when it's time for me to
work and when I'm on stage. I'm not myself.
Yeah, that's kind of who I was thinking about when I said they
get taken over. And there are videos where you
can see the moment it looks likeher face changes and her whole
body shifts when that entity enters her.
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She looks scary actually. And her whole Lemonade album is
so bizarre. And there's that whole part of
her talking about what she does with Pages of the Bible, and she
doesn't eat for so many days andshe does this and that and
you're like, what are you talking about?
I saw a clip once where she was changing form almost right in
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front of Jay-Z. Yeah.
And he looks spooked even he wastaken off guard and I think he's
just as much of a part of it, ifnot the damn head of it.
Yeah. And he was kind of like, are you
OK? Right.
She was just somewhere else. Does this explain the ultra
polished performances? The eyes that sometimes seem
vacant, the robotic grace? Do you think celebrities are
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aware when this is happening, orcould they be partially
conscious while sharing a vessel?
Well, it's interesting because you think of celebrities when
they first start and they're hungry and maybe they did make a
deal and they do share their body with somebody else because
they're fire. They have this vibrant energy
about them and they're perfect. And then once the fame keeps
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going and going, and maybe they don't want to do that anymore or
put their body through it, all of a sudden things seem sloppy.
They seem lazy. Their lyrics aren't as genius as
they used to be. Are they just complacent 'cause
they're not hungry for the fame anymore?
Or are they not just giving something the power anymore?
Even Miley Cyrus has spoken about shifting personas from
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Hannah Montana to Bangers era Miley to country folk
reemergence. Are these rebrands or is she
having multiple consciousnesses tied to different energetic
roles? It does.
Feel like whiplash with the personas going on with her.
Yeah, I mean, I thought mental illness for a while, and then I
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thought maybe ritualistic abuse that she's endured.
We've heard stories about her daddy and Bohemian Grove.
Yeah, and the ones who start outyoung.
Look at Britney Spears. Oh my gosh, that is the example.
It's very sad. All right, buckle up, we're
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going into clone theory, becausewhat would a celebrity soul
episode be without it? The.
Internet is flooded with fan comparisons, jaw lines that
changed overnight, eye spacing that's off, people returning
from rehab or quote UN quote caraccidents looking eerily
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different. Avril Lavigne is the queen of
this theory. The story goes the original
Avril died and her label replaced her with a double name,
Melissa. Clues were allegedly hidden in
song lyrics, album covers and fan interactions.
Then there's Paul McCartney, theOG of they've been replaced
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rumor mill. The theory he died in a car
crash in the 60s and was replaced by a look alike.
If cloning or replacement were happening, how would we even
tell? Is it just energy or the aura?
Avril Lavigne just doesn't seem the same.
Her whole, I don't know, her whole vibe and everything.
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And I was a huge Avril Lavigne fan when she first came out.
Something kind of seems off. And I saw an interview with her
and they kind of talked about it, and the interview just
seemed really weird too. Yeah, you can feel that energy
shifting. And we talked about Britney
Spears, not necessarily cloned, but replaced energetically.
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They say she was MK Ultra and stuff, you know, and now that
it's coming out and we're in themiddle of all the trial right
now. Ever since she went to that
Diddy party the night before, she had that bomb performance at
the MTV Music Awards and everyone's like, oh, she's this,
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she's that. Like she literally was at a
Diddy party and was probably drug to the 90 man and terribly
abused. The woman on Instagram now?
Definitely not the Britney we knew.
No. Her captions are cryptic, her
energy's off, and then there's asteep sense of someone trapped
or gone. Yeah, it almost feels like that,
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like movie get Out, like somebody else is living in her
body, like having a blast. But even sometimes they catch
her and it's almost like there'sa filter on the face and they're
like, why did that all change? Even her teeth are.
Different. Her teeth are different.
Yeah, it's disturbing. I can't even follow her anymore
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because it just. I feel really uncomfortable
watching her because. I do too.
She. Was like the American dream idol
who didn't want to be Britney Spears.
Some researchers claim that Hollywood itself is a soul
harvesting machine, a stage for ritual manipulation and
energetic extraction. Big events like the Met Gala,
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the Super Bowl halftime show, oreven sudden celebrity deaths.
They might be more than just performance, they might be
ritual. People have speculated about
Madonna, Doja Cat, Lady Gaga andKanye, saying these figures go
through literal rebirths in public, symbolic of the new
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entities entering or old ones exiting.
Could fame itself be a Faustian contract, an exchange of
sovereignty for influence, or some of these people willingly
stepping aside for something else to take over?
Yeah, they make an agreement. I think there's a limit in the
fame world how far you can go, and once you get a taste of it,
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it's very hard to not want more.So what are you willing to give
up? What do you think you have to
give up to get to the next leveland then the next level?
Well, I think it goes down a road of corruption, blackmail.
What forbidden things have you not tasted that you want?
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Because you can now. And look at the weirdness around
the Grammys or the VM as how they mirror ancient initiation
rites. And they're distractions too, of
other things going on. Absolutely, complete with
symbolic deaths and rebirths andcrowns pass from one performer
to the next. Is the spotlight a portal?
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I definitely feel like it's something that draws people's
attention and they feed off thatenergy.
Thinking about the Grammys, Thinking about that whole Will
Smith thing. Oh yeah, the slap.
Yeah, yeah, everyone talked about it.
Everyone watched that. Emotions that you're feeding
off. And like you said, the Super
Bowl, the halftime performance, the energy that people get off
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of these things. Even a concert.
One time I saw Beyoncé in a concert and she leaned over and
she put her hands out and she told everyone to put her hands
out towards her. She goes I want to feel your
energy. Like literally was taking the
energy of the audience. One time I was at a Marilyn
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Manson concert and he told everyone to spit on him.
Oh, now was that for energy or for weirdness?
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Stay spirited. This track is donkers boom
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donkers boom donkers. Cool cool cool party.
This song makes me really happy.Pool party.
Pool party. And Speaking of signs, the
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public isn't supposed to notice.There's one symbol that keeps
showing up on celebrities, on world leaders, and then far too
many close up shots to ignore. Let's talk about the eye.
Is it Jaguar? Jaguar, right?
Yeah, she always brings this up.When you share yourself doing
that, that's a calling. Well, I'm talking about the
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eeriest pattern in late circles,something that has haunted
conspiracy boards, forums and secret group chats over a
decade. The Black Eye Club.
Oh, even presidents have had that.
Oh yeah, it's not a myth. There are countless photos of
high profile figures, celebrities, Royals, religious
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leaders, even presidents suddenly appearing with a deeply
bruised or blackened left eye. And we're not talking about
clumsy stumbles or bar fights. These are unexplained,
unacknowledged and strikingly similar.
Pope Francis, George W Bush, Lady Gaga, Adam Sandler, Kanye
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West, Beyoncé, the Dalai Lama, the Dalai Lama and even Madonna
have been spotted with it. Most recently, I think it was
Jay Leno. I'm.
Not surprised by Madonna. No.
So what is it? Some say it's a mark of
initiation, A ritual wound inflicted during high level
occult ceremonies. Others believe it marks the
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moment a celebrity has fully submitted to the elite system,
like signing a soul level contract.
But here's where it can take a darker turn.
Some theorists suggest that thiseye journey isn't symbolic, it's
biological, that there's a literal parasite or synthetic
entity, often called the vrill, that's linked to reptilian
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consciousness, and it's insertedinto the eye during a violent
ritual, allowing for full neuraltakeover.
According to this fringe theory,the black eye is a sign of the
body's rejection, at first swelling, bruising, until the
entity fully takes control. It's the metaphysical version of
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the Invasion of the Body Snatchers but dressed in Gucci.
Have you heard the idea that these entities are parasitic,
possibly even non human in origin?
Reach. I didn't realize that's what the
black guy club really meant, butit does make me think of the
game. Baldersgate.
Tell us. Baldersgate 2.
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The basis is that these Cthulhu looking alien creatures capture
people and they put a parasite and it goes through your eye
into your brain and slowly you start to transform into one of
them. That's symbolism based on
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something true. But yeah, I mean, I totally
could see something taking over bodies because they can't hold
their own and they have to be like a parasite type of entity
and that's how they live. Like you think of Venom, and
that's a that's an alien symbiote type that can only live
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with a host. I think that's what we're
talking about. Well, that's the theory anyway.
If you think of venom, that's exactly what it would be.
And if it's not enough, let's fold into the I symbolism you
spoke about earlier in fashion and media.
The one I pose, the eye of Horus, the covering of 1's eye
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in photo shoots, it's everywhere.
Is it just style, or are they subtly signaling allegiance?
Or even who's been overtaken? You never noticed that I thing
in the symbolism until I was really big into listening to
Lady Gaga when she first came out.
And you know, she's doing the 666 thing with her hand.
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She's covering the eye, She's got the lightning bolt under her
eye. And I'm thinking, she's so cool.
Look at her little gestures. And I used to do those in poses
and stuff. And then you learn about the
conspiracy of it all. And now the information's out
there and every celebrity does the poses and you're like, what?
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It's not just a cute little pose.
Like, why would everyone just becovering their eye?
It's just strange. Who does that?
Do you when you get your picturetaken?
No. Does it just cover your eye?
No, even Elon Musk's mother was doing that.
Yeah, if this theory holds any truth, then these aren't just
performers or politicians. They're host vessels.
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And the black eye, that's the entry wound.
You've got the celebrity covering one eye on an album
cover. The dramatic photo shoots with a
perfectly placed hand, butterflyor flower obscuring one side of
the face. The eye of horse necklace.
The pyramid with the glowing eyeabove it.
It's not just a trend, it's code.
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Some researchers believe that the one eye motif is an open
declaration of submission, a public Pledge of Allegiance to
hidden control systems. Others say it symbolizes the
loss of individuality or even the activation of the synthetic
soul overlay. There's even talk that the
symbolic covering of the eye is a nod to the third eye shut
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down. Not spiritual awakening, but
spiritual suppression. The eye remains open, but the
soul inside dormant, replaced, repurposed.
Think of artists like Rihanna, Jay-Z, Billie Eilish, Doja Cat,
The Weeknd, Beyoncé, Katy Perry.The list is endless.
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Entire performances, music videos, even tour stage setups
are saturated with this visual language like you spoke about
with Lady Gaga. You know what else they all have
in common too? What's that?
It's another thing to know that they all have in common and it's
made very apparent on Tiktok. Probably why they want to ban
Tiktok so bad is they all have videos, music videos being
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covered in the black goo. Which also brings us to the
venom thing again. And they get spit on and covered
with black goo and all of like Billie Eilish, Justin
Timberlake, they've all had thatrepresented in their music
videos and as of pretty recent too, which I think is a symbol
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for something. I have to agree.
What do you think? What's your take?
Do you think these symbols are just stylized coincidence, or
are they flashing deeper truths in plain sight?
I think that there is definitelysomething going on.
I think there's a little truth behind everything and there's
things that they can flaunt. There's nothing we can really do
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about it besides you consume it or you reject it.
It's just your decision. I feel like we're seeing more of
the celebrity downfall now. People aren't worshipping in
them as much, or at least more people are waking up to it.
Did you hear about the digitine?No.
So I think it all started TikTokreally at a peak.
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And Matt Gala came and there wasthis one influencer and she
dressed up like Maria Antoinette.
She said let them eat cake. And then everyone, I think
especially after 2020 when all the celebrities, like, we're all
in this together while they're on their yacht and Lizzo had all
that heat behind her and everyone is just sick and tired
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of these celebrities who are so out of touch and they just think
they're something great. So somebody came up with the
digitine. So you just block every
celebrity because if you block them, it cuts off their funds.
Like, don't just unfollow block.So I literally blocked every
celebrity except a few that I absolutely love no matter what.
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But Kardashians and all these people, I'm just like, you're
blocked. Goodbye.
Oh yeah, Jennifer Lopez was a big one, too.
Everyone just like, Oh yeah. And she's like my hair reminds
me when I was 15 years old on the block and crazy girl.
Jenny on the block. And everyone's like, what are
you talking about? You didn't you?
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You weren't even. On the block.
Yeah, you weren't even on the block, so I don't know if people
are still digitining or not, butit feels good to just block
them. I never had them, but if I did
I'd digitin them too. Yeah, and it gets weirder still
because in some esoteric teachings the left eye is tied
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to the moon, the subconscious, and the hidden self, while the
right eye is tied to the sun andconscious awareness.
So when someone covers one or both, are they really hiding or
showing? Your left is your feminine side
and your right's your masculine side.
Your left connects to creativityon the right side of your brain.
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Believe it or not, they connect to the opposite hemispheres.
What if some of these public figures were never truly
inhabited by a soul at all? The NPC theory suggests that
certain high visibility individuals are vessels, not
possessed, not replaced, just running on programming.
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This doesn't mean they don't function or inspire, but it
raises the question, are all humans human?
And if someone in the public eyestarts glitching like that
terrifying robotic blink footagefrom the Oscars or people
freezing mid interview, maybe we're not seeing nerves, Maybe
we're seeing programming slip. What's your take on this idea of
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soulless vessels or people beingused like avatars?
We saw that happen with Eminem. He was totally glitched out.
Some of these celebrities that just came out of nowhere, like
Ice Spice. It's just like, what is she?
Who is she? And then she was doing a whole
bunch of symbolism, especially at the Super Bowl that one year.
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Speaking of the soulless avatars, we've even had TV
personalities like Al Roker. He totally froze up and acted
all like what is going on, almost like there was an MK
Ultra thing going on because when someone said a certain word
it popped them out. I.
Think they said Jesus? Yeah.
I think so. Like Jesus or God?
And it popped them out. Yeah, it's.
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So weird. Glitched out.
And let's not overlook the Silicon Valley crossover figures
like Mark Zuckerberg or Sam Altman, who at times seem like
caricatures of humanity. Theories have emerged that tech
moguls are seeded entities whosemission isn't innovation, but
incarnation through interface. That's an interesting theory.
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I just think they're aliens, honestly.
They do seem pretty alien to. Me, they're not very human
acting. They're very odd.
So I don't know something about them is not human.
I will say that. So listeners, who's really
behind the face? Maybe some are walk-ins, maybe
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some are clones, maybe some are just tired humans being chewed
up by the fame machine. Or maybe, just maybe, we're
looking at spiritual phenomena that only now we're able to
sense, whether it's about control, initiation, soul
contracts, or something we can'tquite name yet.
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What matters is that we questionthe script before we go.
What do you think? Have you seen a celebrity moment
or image and felt in your gut that's not them anymore?
Let us know. We're always listening and
watching. Stay curious, stay grounded, and
as always. Stay strange.
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podcast. Welcome back listeners to to the
Spirit Podcast where the veil isthin and the tea is thick.
I'm back your host. And joining me as always is the
(00:45):
radiant, ever intuitive Rachel. Hey, Rach.
Hello. Today we're going deep into one
of our juiciest themes yet, the ever shifting, often whispered
about realm of celebrity soul swaps, walk-ins and double S.
This episode is titled Who's Behind the Face Shifting Shells
(01:09):
of Celebrity Souls? And I promise you, it's not just
another Hollywood gossip hour. We're peeling back the glam to
explore the strange, spiritual and downright eerie theories
about whether some celebrities are really themselves anymore.
Rachel, I have to ask you first,have you ever looked at a
celebrity and thought that is not the same person I used to
(01:32):
watch or hear? That happens on a regular basis
these days, Beck. It does, especially since we do
the Beyond files. We're constantly pulling people
up, going what in the hell is going on?
Yeah, there are people there. Tik Toks are just specifically
dedicated to, you know, every time they open up, they're like,
(01:52):
they got them. They they.
Yeah, they got them. Let's kick things off with
walk-ins. The concept comes from spiritual
circles and metaphysical literature.
Essentially, a soul agreement ismade where the original soul of
(02:14):
a person exits and a new one steps in.
It's usually said to happen during trauma, illness, or at a
moment of deep despair. As the theory goes, this has
happened with more than a few celebrities.
One name that always comes up? Eminem.
Fans swear his vibe changed drastically after 2006.
(02:36):
His lyrics, his eyes, even the way he carries himself.
Now it's like someone else is atthe wheel.
Yeah, he is a bit different and I feel like listening to his new
album he kind of leans more towards a certain agenda.
He used to say a lot of messed up stuff in his raps but it was
(02:56):
really for the shock factor and now I feel like there's someone
pulling the strings. I think so.
I noticed his eyes weren't they blue or they were brown and then
they went blue. I swear I noticed differences in
his eyes. There's definitely differences
in his look and his vibe. Do you think some of these
(03:16):
drastic personality changes actually could be walk-ins?
Yeah, and I think sometimes the walk in too is during their
performance, their quote UN quote alter ego comes in.
Well, let's not forget about Katy Perry.
Oh God, Remember her Christian pop phase?
(03:37):
That was her beginning, right? Yeah.
Then boom, Illuminati I dark alter egos and then constant
references to selling her soul walk in ritual possession.
Or just one hell of APR shift. She probably sold her soul, now
she's a part of this. Like allegedly she went to
space, now she's got this joke of a tour that everyone's
(04:00):
ripping her for. Didn't she take off out of the
country because of all this too?Probably all do.
They all just, you know, vanish when they're not getting their
way and when they're so out of touch with people they don't
understand that they don't just fart and everybody worships them
anymore. Well, there's also the lesser
(04:23):
known but fascinating story of Jim Carrey, whose increasingly
metaphysical public statements left fans wondering did he have
an awakening or did something else take over entirely?
Some suggest his comedic personadied with his fame, and what
replaced him is a soul entirely different in frequency.
Well, you see that interview he had on that late night talk show
(04:45):
where he was actually exposing? The Illuminati.
Yeah, like he did the triangle and he was sticking his tongue
out on the triangle and he's like, you know what I'm talking
about? And they're like, what?
And. Some people think that's an
industry plant though, when theydo that.
Sometimes I think they do push the symbolism just to get a
(05:08):
reaction out of people because they know that it's something
that is discussed now. I think that could be true,
yeah. I think it used to be very
subtle until we all woke up and we're like, hey, this is what
this is. So then they kind of take that
and push it more for reaction. Now here's where it gets
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weirder. Soul overlays.
This is the idea that the original soul remains but
becomes suppressed while anotherconsciousness is layered over
it. Think of it like spiritual
gentrification. Some suspect Beyoncé's Sasha
Fierce persona was more than just branding.
What if it was an actual spiritual overlay?
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A walk in light, she said herself.
I have someone else that takes over when it's time for me to
work and when I'm on stage. I'm not myself.
Yeah, that's kind of who I was thinking about when I said they
get taken over. And there are videos where you
can see the moment it looks likeher face changes and her whole
body shifts when that entity enters her.
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She looks scary actually. And her whole Lemonade album is
so bizarre. And there's that whole part of
her talking about what she does with Pages of the Bible, and she
doesn't eat for so many days andshe does this and that and
you're like, what are you talking about?
I saw a clip once where she was changing form almost right in
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front of Jay-Z. Yeah.
And he looks spooked even he wastaken off guard and I think he's
just as much of a part of it, ifnot the damn head of it.
Yeah. And he was kind of like, are you
OK? Right.
She was just somewhere else. Does this explain the ultra
polished performances? The eyes that sometimes seem
vacant, the robotic grace? Do you think celebrities are
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aware when this is happening, orcould they be partially
conscious while sharing a vessel?
Well, it's interesting because you think of celebrities when
they first start and they're hungry and maybe they did make a
deal and they do share their body with somebody else because
they're fire. They have this vibrant energy
about them and they're perfect. And then once the fame keeps
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going and going, and maybe they don't want to do that anymore or
put their body through it, all of a sudden things seem sloppy.
They seem lazy. Their lyrics aren't as genius as
they used to be. Are they just complacent 'cause
they're not hungry for the fame anymore?
Or are they not just giving something the power anymore?
Even Miley Cyrus has spoken about shifting personas from
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Hannah Montana to Bangers era Miley to country folk
reemergence. Are these rebrands or is she
having multiple consciousnesses tied to different energetic
roles? It does.
Feel like whiplash with the personas going on with her.
Yeah, I mean, I thought mental illness for a while, and then I
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thought maybe ritualistic abuse that she's endured.
We've heard stories about her daddy and Bohemian Grove.
Yeah, and the ones who start outyoung.
Look at Britney Spears. Oh my gosh, that is the example.
It's very sad. All right, buckle up, we're
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going into clone theory, becausewhat would a celebrity soul
episode be without it? The.
Internet is flooded with fan comparisons, jaw lines that
changed overnight, eye spacing that's off, people returning
from rehab or quote UN quote caraccidents looking eerily
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different. Avril Lavigne is the queen of
this theory. The story goes the original
Avril died and her label replaced her with a double name,
Melissa. Clues were allegedly hidden in
song lyrics, album covers and fan interactions.
Then there's Paul McCartney, theOG of they've been replaced
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rumor mill. The theory he died in a car
crash in the 60s and was replaced by a look alike.
If cloning or replacement were happening, how would we even
tell? Is it just energy or the aura?
Avril Lavigne just doesn't seem the same.
Her whole, I don't know, her whole vibe and everything.
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And I was a huge Avril Lavigne fan when she first came out.
Something kind of seems off. And I saw an interview with her
and they kind of talked about it, and the interview just
seemed really weird too. Yeah, you can feel that energy
shifting. And we talked about Britney
Spears, not necessarily cloned, but replaced energetically.
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They say she was MK Ultra and stuff, you know, and now that
it's coming out and we're in themiddle of all the trial right
now. Ever since she went to that
Diddy party the night before, she had that bomb performance at
the MTV Music Awards and everyone's like, oh, she's this,
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she's that. Like she literally was at a
Diddy party and was probably drug to the 90 man and terribly
abused. The woman on Instagram now?
Definitely not the Britney we knew.
No. Her captions are cryptic, her
energy's off, and then there's asteep sense of someone trapped
or gone. Yeah, it almost feels like that,
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like movie get Out, like somebody else is living in her
body, like having a blast. But even sometimes they catch
her and it's almost like there'sa filter on the face and they're
like, why did that all change? Even her teeth are.
Different. Her teeth are different.
Yeah, it's disturbing. I can't even follow her anymore
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because it just. I feel really uncomfortable
watching her because. I do too.
She. Was like the American dream idol
who didn't want to be Britney Spears.
Some researchers claim that Hollywood itself is a soul
harvesting machine, a stage for ritual manipulation and
energetic extraction. Big events like the Met Gala,
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the Super Bowl halftime show, oreven sudden celebrity deaths.
They might be more than just performance, they might be
ritual. People have speculated about
Madonna, Doja Cat, Lady Gaga andKanye, saying these figures go
through literal rebirths in public, symbolic of the new
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entities entering or old ones exiting.
Could fame itself be a Faustian contract, an exchange of
sovereignty for influence, or some of these people willingly
stepping aside for something else to take over?
Yeah, they make an agreement. I think there's a limit in the
fame world how far you can go, and once you get a taste of it,
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it's very hard to not want more.So what are you willing to give
up? What do you think you have to
give up to get to the next leveland then the next level?
Well, I think it goes down a road of corruption, blackmail.
What forbidden things have you not tasted that you want?
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Because you can now. And look at the weirdness around
the Grammys or the VM as how they mirror ancient initiation
rites. And they're distractions too, of
other things going on. Absolutely, complete with
symbolic deaths and rebirths andcrowns pass from one performer
to the next. Is the spotlight a portal?
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I definitely feel like it's something that draws people's
attention and they feed off thatenergy.
Thinking about the Grammys, Thinking about that whole Will
Smith thing. Oh yeah, the slap.
Yeah, yeah, everyone talked about it.
Everyone watched that. Emotions that you're feeding
off. And like you said, the Super
Bowl, the halftime performance, the energy that people get off
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of these things. Even a concert.
One time I saw Beyoncé in a concert and she leaned over and
she put her hands out and she told everyone to put her hands
out towards her. She goes I want to feel your
energy. Like literally was taking the
energy of the audience. One time I was at a Marilyn
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Manson concert and he told everyone to spit on him.
Oh, now was that for energy or for weirdness?
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donkers boom donkers. Cool cool cool party.
This song makes me really happy.Pool party.
Pool party. And Speaking of signs, the
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public isn't supposed to notice.There's one symbol that keeps
showing up on celebrities, on world leaders, and then far too
many close up shots to ignore. Let's talk about the eye.
Is it Jaguar? Jaguar, right?
Yeah, she always brings this up.When you share yourself doing
that, that's a calling. Well, I'm talking about the
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eeriest pattern in late circles,something that has haunted
conspiracy boards, forums and secret group chats over a
decade. The Black Eye Club.
Oh, even presidents have had that.
Oh yeah, it's not a myth. There are countless photos of
high profile figures, celebrities, Royals, religious
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leaders, even presidents suddenly appearing with a deeply
bruised or blackened left eye. And we're not talking about
clumsy stumbles or bar fights. These are unexplained,
unacknowledged and strikingly similar.
Pope Francis, George W Bush, Lady Gaga, Adam Sandler, Kanye
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West, Beyoncé, the Dalai Lama, the Dalai Lama and even Madonna
have been spotted with it. Most recently, I think it was
Jay Leno. I'm.
Not surprised by Madonna. No.
So what is it? Some say it's a mark of
initiation, A ritual wound inflicted during high level
occult ceremonies. Others believe it marks the
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moment a celebrity has fully submitted to the elite system,
like signing a soul level contract.
But here's where it can take a darker turn.
Some theorists suggest that thiseye journey isn't symbolic, it's
biological, that there's a literal parasite or synthetic
entity, often called the vrill, that's linked to reptilian
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consciousness, and it's insertedinto the eye during a violent
ritual, allowing for full neuraltakeover.
According to this fringe theory,the black eye is a sign of the
body's rejection, at first swelling, bruising, until the
entity fully takes control. It's the metaphysical version of
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the Invasion of the Body Snatchers but dressed in Gucci.
Have you heard the idea that these entities are parasitic,
possibly even non human in origin?
Reach. I didn't realize that's what the
black guy club really meant, butit does make me think of the
game. Baldersgate.
Tell us. Baldersgate 2.
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The basis is that these Cthulhu looking alien creatures capture
people and they put a parasite and it goes through your eye
into your brain and slowly you start to transform into one of
them. That's symbolism based on
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something true. But yeah, I mean, I totally
could see something taking over bodies because they can't hold
their own and they have to be like a parasite type of entity
and that's how they live. Like you think of Venom, and
that's a that's an alien symbiote type that can only live
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with a host. I think that's what we're
talking about. Well, that's the theory anyway.
If you think of venom, that's exactly what it would be.
And if it's not enough, let's fold into the I symbolism you
spoke about earlier in fashion and media.
The one I pose, the eye of Horus, the covering of 1's eye
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in photo shoots, it's everywhere.
Is it just style, or are they subtly signaling allegiance?
Or even who's been overtaken? You never noticed that I thing
in the symbolism until I was really big into listening to
Lady Gaga when she first came out.
And you know, she's doing the 666 thing with her hand.
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She's covering the eye, She's got the lightning bolt under her
eye. And I'm thinking, she's so cool.
Look at her little gestures. And I used to do those in poses
and stuff. And then you learn about the
conspiracy of it all. And now the information's out
there and every celebrity does the poses and you're like, what?
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It's not just a cute little pose.
Like, why would everyone just becovering their eye?
It's just strange. Who does that?
Do you when you get your picturetaken?
No. Does it just cover your eye?
No, even Elon Musk's mother was doing that.
Yeah, if this theory holds any truth, then these aren't just
performers or politicians. They're host vessels.
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And the black eye, that's the entry wound.
You've got the celebrity covering one eye on an album
cover. The dramatic photo shoots with a
perfectly placed hand, butterflyor flower obscuring one side of
the face. The eye of horse necklace.
The pyramid with the glowing eyeabove it.
It's not just a trend, it's code.
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Some researchers believe that the one eye motif is an open
declaration of submission, a public Pledge of Allegiance to
hidden control systems. Others say it symbolizes the
loss of individuality or even the activation of the synthetic
soul overlay. There's even talk that the
symbolic covering of the eye is a nod to the third eye shut
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down. Not spiritual awakening, but
spiritual suppression. The eye remains open, but the
soul inside dormant, replaced, repurposed.
Think of artists like Rihanna, Jay-Z, Billie Eilish, Doja Cat,
The Weeknd, Beyoncé, Katy Perry.The list is endless.
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Entire performances, music videos, even tour stage setups
are saturated with this visual language like you spoke about
with Lady Gaga. You know what else they all have
in common too? What's that?
It's another thing to know that they all have in common and it's
made very apparent on Tiktok. Probably why they want to ban
Tiktok so bad is they all have videos, music videos being
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covered in the black goo. Which also brings us to the
venom thing again. And they get spit on and covered
with black goo and all of like Billie Eilish, Justin
Timberlake, they've all had thatrepresented in their music
videos and as of pretty recent too, which I think is a symbol
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for something. I have to agree.
What do you think? What's your take?
Do you think these symbols are just stylized coincidence, or
are they flashing deeper truths in plain sight?
I think that there is definitelysomething going on.
I think there's a little truth behind everything and there's
things that they can flaunt. There's nothing we can really do
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about it besides you consume it or you reject it.
It's just your decision. I feel like we're seeing more of
the celebrity downfall now. People aren't worshipping in
them as much, or at least more people are waking up to it.
Did you hear about the digitine?No.
So I think it all started TikTokreally at a peak.
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And Matt Gala came and there wasthis one influencer and she
dressed up like Maria Antoinette.
She said let them eat cake. And then everyone, I think
especially after 2020 when all the celebrities, like, we're all
in this together while they're on their yacht and Lizzo had all
that heat behind her and everyone is just sick and tired
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of these celebrities who are so out of touch and they just think
they're something great. So somebody came up with the
digitine. So you just block every
celebrity because if you block them, it cuts off their funds.
Like, don't just unfollow block.So I literally blocked every
celebrity except a few that I absolutely love no matter what.
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But Kardashians and all these people, I'm just like, you're
blocked. Goodbye.
Oh yeah, Jennifer Lopez was a big one, too.
Everyone just like, Oh yeah. And she's like my hair reminds
me when I was 15 years old on the block and crazy girl.
Jenny on the block. And everyone's like, what are
you talking about? You didn't you?
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You weren't even. On the block.
Yeah, you weren't even on the block, so I don't know if people
are still digitining or not, butit feels good to just block
them. I never had them, but if I did
I'd digitin them too. Yeah, and it gets weirder still
because in some esoteric teachings the left eye is tied
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to the moon, the subconscious, and the hidden self, while the
right eye is tied to the sun andconscious awareness.
So when someone covers one or both, are they really hiding or
showing? Your left is your feminine side
and your right's your masculine side.
Your left connects to creativityon the right side of your brain.
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Believe it or not, they connect to the opposite hemispheres.
What if some of these public figures were never truly
inhabited by a soul at all? The NPC theory suggests that
certain high visibility individuals are vessels, not
possessed, not replaced, just running on programming.
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This doesn't mean they don't function or inspire, but it
raises the question, are all humans human?
And if someone in the public eyestarts glitching like that
terrifying robotic blink footagefrom the Oscars or people
freezing mid interview, maybe we're not seeing nerves, Maybe
we're seeing programming slip. What's your take on this idea of
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soulless vessels or people beingused like avatars?
We saw that happen with Eminem. He was totally glitched out.
Some of these celebrities that just came out of nowhere, like
Ice Spice. It's just like, what is she?
Who is she? And then she was doing a whole
bunch of symbolism, especially at the Super Bowl that one year.
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Speaking of the soulless avatars, we've even had TV
personalities like Al Roker. He totally froze up and acted
all like what is going on, almost like there was an MK
Ultra thing going on because when someone said a certain word
it popped them out. I.
Think they said Jesus? Yeah.
I think so. Like Jesus or God?
And it popped them out. Yeah, it's.
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So weird. Glitched out.
And let's not overlook the Silicon Valley crossover figures
like Mark Zuckerberg or Sam Altman, who at times seem like
caricatures of humanity. Theories have emerged that tech
moguls are seeded entities whosemission isn't innovation, but
incarnation through interface. That's an interesting theory.
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I just think they're aliens, honestly.
They do seem pretty alien to. Me, they're not very human
acting. They're very odd.
So I don't know something about them is not human.
I will say that. So listeners, who's really
behind the face? Maybe some are walk-ins, maybe
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some are clones, maybe some are just tired humans being chewed
up by the fame machine. Or maybe, just maybe, we're
looking at spiritual phenomena that only now we're able to
sense, whether it's about control, initiation, soul
contracts, or something we can'tquite name yet.
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What matters is that we questionthe script before we go.
What do you think? Have you seen a celebrity moment
or image and felt in your gut that's not them anymore?
Let us know. We're always listening and
watching. Stay curious, stay grounded, and
as always. Stay strange.
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This has been to the Spirit. Until next time, take a closer
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