October 4, 2025 • 34 mins
Welcome back, Spirit Seekers. This week, Beck and Rachel pull back the veil on the latest headlines of high strangeness, including:
• A ghost-hunting course hits the college syllabus
•Alcatraz gets scanned by high-tech paranormal gear
• A V-shaped UFO hovers over Los Angeles
• Dybbuk box cracks open after 12 silent years
• An Alaskan road vanishes from GPS and reality
• Strange sightings: from translucent figures to glowing orbs
• A forgotten Mothman tale from 1916
•Listener Lore: “The Man with the Glowing Eyes”
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You're listening to to the Spirit podcast.
Welcome back spirit seekers. I'm back and this is beyond the
veil. Your Lantern lit path through
the fog of the strange. The headlines this week are
glowing with static. AV shaped UFO parks itself over
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Laa, Ghost hunting class hits the college syllabus, high tech
scanners light up the haunted halls of Alcatraz, and someone
or something is dropping off mysterious boxes while dressed
like a paper masked flower demon.
You know, just another quiet week on earth.
And of course, I'm not crossing dimensions alone with me as
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always, as the woman who could banish A poltergeist with
nothing but a raised eyebrow anda cup of black coffee, My Co
host, resident tarot Slinger, and the only person I trust to
talk me out of investigating abandoned asylums at 3:00 AM.
Rachel. Hey Beck, hello spirit seekers
out there. Tonight's episode also includes
a strange tale from history, shadow and listener Lord that
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might just crawl under your skinand whisper Remember Me?
So grab your mug, your mirror, and maybe some sage.
We're going in kicking us off this week.
The paranormal just went scholastic.
A Community College in upstate New York is now offering non
credit courses in ghost hunting.Yes, you heard that right.
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Students are grabbing R.E.M. pods, EMF meters, and night
vision cameras instead of textbooks.
The course dives into everythingfrom spirit communication tools
to investigation ethics and is being taught by a seasoned local
team with decades of experience.Now I know what you're thinking.
Is this a gimmick or a real movetowards institutionalizing
paranormal studies? But here's the thing, this isn't
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just for kicks. The school says demand for
classes like this has grown as more people become open to
exploring spiritual phenomena, especially after the cultural
weirdness of the last few years.Students range from curious
retirees to Gen. Z thrill seekers looking for
proof of the beyond. What I love is that they're not
treating it like a joke. The syllabus apparently includes
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historical hauntings, equipment demos and best practices for
investigations, including how todebunk activity.
Imagine getting graded on your EVP technique.
I'd finally pass a class with flying orbs.
Maybe I wouldn't have dropped out of college.
That was my major. Rach, would you teach a course
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in this? And if you did, what kind of pop
quiz would you give? I would teach a course on it and
a pop quiz would be Did you do the 3:00 AM alone challenge?
Oh boy, that would What would you be teaching?
What would be your specialty? Spirit communication, OK.
You like it? You like?
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It I love the spirit communication, so it would.
Be like EVP. We'd have to teach it together.
Oh, because you're the master. I I would be in there with you.
Yeah, we could do it as a team. We'll write a textbook together.
This is what you do, and this isn't what you do.
And if you don't pay attention in class, your ass is going to
get haunted. We'll stick the spirits on you.
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You know what this makes me think?
As wild as it seems, maybe this is a part of a slow shift.
You know, we used to mock the supernatural.
Now we're studying it. Maybe institutions are finally
starting to admit they don't have all the answers either.
And hey, if haunted dorms start offering extra credit, sign me
up. But I do have a truth and fire
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sidebar as always. What they call education might
be initiation and disguise. R.E.M. pods and EMF meters are
fine, but the real tools are older Instinct, courage, the
willingness to stand still in the presence of the unseen.
You don't need a certificate to walk between worlds, but you
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will be tested. The veil doesn't care if you
passed your class and only wantsto know.
Are you still afraid of the dark?
That's good. Next up, the Ghost of Alcatraz
might be getting digitally unmasked.
A recent private investigation team was granted rare access to
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the Rock after hours and this time they brought more than EMF
meters. They use thermal drones and a
piece of military grade gear known as a full spectrum
environmental scanner. I think we need one of those.
Sounds fancy, right somebody? Want to donate one to us?
Let us know, will he accept? This device reportedly maps
electromagnetic fluctuations andtemperature anomalies in 3D
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space, basically giving you a ghost's eye view of the room.
Here's the weird part. The scanner consistently lit up
in the areas with documented violent history.
One of the strongest spikes camenear cell 14D, known to many as
the solitary confinement cell, where prisoners used to claim
they were being watched by red eyed figures in the dark.
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That exact spot reportedly sent the scanner into a fit, with
light pulses flickering and whata team called a deliberate
pattern. Then get this.
The lead investigator said that while standing in the cell, he
got sudden nausea, blurred vision and a pressure wave
against his chest. The same symptoms were
experienced by a second team member 10 minutes later on the
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opposite end of the building. So Rach, if you had access to a
high tech haunted prison, do youthink that the gear helps or
hinders the real spiritual contact I.
Think depending on how intense it is.
I think sometimes the basics arebetter and they already give it
electromagnetic field, so if youare combating it with your own
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electromagnetic things, maybe they're getting dizzy and
nauseous because there's just somuch EMF battling that's good.
I had never thought of that. I don't like that theory.
Maybe you could teach classes. Whether it's the tech evolving
or spirits responding to being studied differently, something
is shifting. Maybe they want to be seen on
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their own terms, or maybe this new evidence is the only way we
can translate what's already screaming beneath the surface.
From the dungeons of Alcatraz tothe skies over LA.
This next one feels like something out of a storyboard
for a sci-fi film. Multiple witnesses in Los
Angeles reported AV shaped crafthovering silently above
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neighborhoods for nearly 30 minutes late last week and had
no visible wings, no sound and afaint pattern of glowing under
lights that some said pulse likea heartbeat.
Videos are already circulating online and have been submitted
to MUFON and New Fork NUFORC. What the hell is that, Rach?
And you what? Is that new fork?
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I know what MUFON is, Mutual UFONetwork, but what's new for?
Should have done my homework on this.
National UFO Reporting Center. Thank you, Rage.
Authorities haven't offered an explanation yet.
It wasn't on any FAA flight maps, and LAX officials denied
having scheduled flight tests ofany new aircrafts.
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For many, Angela knows it was the first time they'd seen a
craft so large just sit there, not zoom by.
It's also eerily similar to sightings reported in Belgium in
the 1990s and the infamous Phoenix Lights.
And here's the odd detail. Some witnesses say their phones
glitched or stopped recording when they tried to zoom in, an
effect you'd expect from a high-powered jammer but not from
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an unknown craft. Would you want to see something
like that alone at 2:00 AM, standing in your yard with your
phone ready but failing? I would want somebody with me.
I want somebody to see it with me because they wouldn't believe
me. Yeah, because your phone's
failing and the. Phone's failing.
Oh, it's just like, did you evensee it?
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I mean, I do tell people that I've seen spirits and they
believe me. And then isn't it like once you
see them then your occurrences of seeing them is more frequent?
Usually it's like, yeah, you're marked.
And those triangles, man, I don't know the triangles.
They give a vibe. I have never seen a triangle
yet. I've only seen the orbs.
I've only seen the blinkers. And the blinkers, but never the
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triangles. Those seem more ominous, more
government, but I don't know. And triangles man.
Those triangles? They're only good for one thing,
Dips. Yeah, tortillas.
Whether it's a classified test or a visitor writing geometry
across the night Sky, One thing certain Los Angeles just got its
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own new entry in the UFO files. Every so often, a haunted object
story rises to the surface with enough floor to make even the
seasoned paranormal buffs raise an eyebrow.
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This time, it's the return of the infamous Box Demon who a
woman in Oregon posted a video claiming that a Dybot box she
inherited from her grandmother, sealed and untouched for 12
years, began rattling on its ownduring a thunderstorm.
She had placed it in a locked curio cabinet sealed in resin
after a decade of nightmares andunexplained illnesses she
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believed were tied to it. But the security camera in her
home captured the sound of something tapping from inside
the cabinet when she opened the door.
The resin seal was cracked from within.
For context, A dybok box rooted in Jewish folklore is believed
to house a malevolent spirit or trapped soul, usually attached
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to grief, trauma or rage. Think of it like a grief cursed
containment unit. She's now asking for help online
to properly dispose or reseal it, but of course some
commenters want her to open it on camera.
Hell. No.
So Rachel, what would you do if someone offered you a sealed
dibbic box on eBay? I want nothing to do with
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Dibbix. They creep me out, I think.
I suspect somebody's house has some the form of a dibbic in it.
Someone you know? Yeah.
Oh I think there's a dibbic ish vibe to it and I don't know I
saw that. Was that one movie with the
divic? Was it called divic?
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I just remember like that was the that was the thing that was
maybe there was there's a girl that had a divic box.
I think in the movie. They're creepy.
I don't know. That's bad juju.
I. Wouldn't be making it a
centerpiece of my house and I'm certainly not I No, I want
nothing to do with it. I got 99 problems in a divicate
1. You got ghost problems.
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I feel bad for your son. We don't always get to choose
what comes back, especially whenwe think we've buried it for
good. Whether this is psychological,
spiritual, or something strangerstill, it's a powerful reminder
some doors don't want to stay closed.
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This next one sounds like an urban legend, but it's
circulating from multiple trucker reports out of Interior
Alaska. Several long haul drivers
traveling along the Dalton Highway reported a bizarre
phenomenon. A10 mile stretch of road near
the Yukon River Bridge allegedlyvanished from both their GPS
systems and their physical view.1 driver claimed that while he
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was following his GPS, the road simply ceased to exist.
The terrain ahead looked like untouched wilderness.
No pavement, no signage, no evidence of Rd. had ever even
been there. He stopped.
He reversed. He double checked his maps.
Then less than an hour later, the road was back as if nothing
had happened. And this isn't an isolated case.
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A Reddit thread in Alaska Survival Group has locals
chiming in with similar tales going back years, missing roads,
loops that didn't exist before, and even time distortion.
Some are blaming magnetic anomalies in that region, other
suspect military experiments, HARP interference, or even
window zones. Areas where reality thins.
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And of course, this ties right into the ongoing chatter about
time slips and dimensional overlaps we've been seeing more
of in 2025. If the road blinked out ahead of
you while you were driving, would you trust your instincts
or your GPS? Or would you pull over and wait
for reality to catch up? If I have heard of this existing
before, I think I might want to go explore the.
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Oh, you're going deeper. That's kind of interesting.
What if you? Can't get back out.
What if it's like the Bermuda Triangle and you're gone, but
it's. Cool too though.
What if you like go into Wonderland or something?
Oh my God. Really, Wonderland, you already
know not to go through the thresholds in the woods.
Don't climb the stairs, don't open the door, don't go through
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the gate. Stay away from the arches.
But you're going to keep drivingdown the road.
Yeah, it might be a trap. It might be a trap.
OK. Seems like it would probably be
a trap if you see beautiful women that have fruits that
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they're offering. Oh, now we're putting.
Sirens on the road, Yeah, OK, well with the path ahead
dissolves, are we seeing a glitch in the map or a mirror in
the matrix? Either way, it's enough to make
you take the long way home. I.
Don't know what I would do if I experienced that.
I mean, sometimes the GPS takes you the wrong way.
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Sometimes it takes you right offa Cliff.
Rage. Like one time it just took me on
the opposite way of the Thruway so I was already like 2 hours
away and I it. Was doing that to me a lot
yesterday. It was taking me into weird
places that it should have knownnot to go that way.
It was making me go all out of the way to get to a certain
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spot. I'm like, yo, why are you making
me go right when I have to go left?
What's happening? Sometimes spirit directs you
like if it's protecting you well.
I got confused because between the directions in my brain I
ended up just missing the exit all together and having to
completely backtrack. So I guess in the end it worked
out, but still. Yeah, back in the day when we
used to have maps. Yeah, MapQuest.
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And before that, we had the AAA maps we had to order, and those
were spectacular because you hadto actually open these giant
maps and like, route your way down to Florida.
Yeah, how did you do that? If you're by yourself, you said
freedom map you. Had to pull over or keep it on
the seat next to you and look because I did it.
Wow. Yeah, it's roughing.
It good. Old days.
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thespiritpod@gmail.com and if itgives us chills, we might just
share it. Now it's time for a strange tale
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from history's shadow. Long before the glowing eyes
loomed over Silver Bridge, before Point Pleasant became
synonymous with the Mothman, there was another story nearly
lost to time. In 1916, scattered reports began
to surface from foggy riverbanksof West Virginia, Not in
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newspapers, but tucked in personal Diaries, handwritten
letters, and whispered conversations.
The townsfolk spoke of Birdman, tall, humanoid shaped, with
outstretched wings and luminescent red eyes.
They were spotted at dusk, circling cliffs or Crouch to top
barns. One account described them in
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pairs, moving like Sentinels. A child wrote of waking to wing
beats, tapping against her bedroom window and seeing 2
glowing eyes just beyond the glass.
Another family claimed their barn was ransacked from above.
Feathers not from any known birdfound strewn around the hay.
They vanished just as suddenly as they appeared.
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The incidents were brushed off, forgotten, buried beneath coal
dust in the slow churn of history.
Until 1966, when the Mothman appeared again, this time to
stay in the public's imagination.
Some believe these 1916 entitiesweren't just early Mothman, but
something older, a reoccurring archetype.
Maybe Watchers, maybe warnings, maybe echoes of something trying
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to Pierce The Veil again and again.
What do you think, Rachel? Their precursor sightings to
modern paranormal events that wemissed because they didn't have
catchy names yet. I'm kind of curious because I, I
do have family that are from West Virginia Mountain Mama.
I, I kind of want to see if I can reach out.
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I don't know if any of them still live in West Virginia, but
I'd like to find out if that's something that they're aware of
or the maybe they have their ownstories of it that.
'D be good, you should reach out.
Do you think beings like Mothmencould be repeaters?
Oh yeah. Like a different, different
version of it. Yeah.
Like they evolve over time. I think that's possible.
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History doesn't always repeat. Sometimes it reminds with wings
and with glowing eyes. In a dramatic twist, Yorktown
Memorial Hospital, long operatedas a haunted site by paranormal
tour group Curious Twins Tours and Events, is now off limits.
The city has officially declaredthe building structurally
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unsafe, shutting down public access overnight.
The hospital, built in 1951 and abandoned since 1992, has a
storied reputation. Shadow figures, cries in the
halls, unexplained footsteps. The new owners bought it only
months ago and had just begin reopening it for investigations
and tours. Now the city says it's too
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dangerous, though the tour operators claim the insection
came with only 15 minutes noticeand no clear remedy plan.
Rach do you think sirits care about building codes or is it us
who just can't keep U? Experience give a damn about.
Well, they might care if the place that they're they're used
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to starts crumbling down. And if you fix it, maybe they'll
be happier. Yeah, it does.
Peak up too with renovations, usually the activity right, but
I don't. Think they care if there's mold
or anything. No, they don't.
No, no. Sometimes the walls that trap
ghosts also trap our access. Whether by neglect or fear, the
city has drawn a hard line. But in places so haunted,
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boundaries may need constant renegotiation.
Things in the sky over New York are getting crowded.
Earlier this year, ridges and riverbanks across upstate New
York lit up with reports of a mysterious glowing orb, slow,
silent and shimmering above treetops.
Locals posted photos, videos andstunned commentary after what
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felt like something other than fireworks or planes.
That same period, the National UFO Reporting Center New Fork
recorded 66 UFO sightings acrossNew York State and just the
first half of 2025, about one per day in some months.
These sightings range from glowing spheres to silent
triangles and objects darting and zigzag patterns.
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What's interesting is how many people tried to zoom in only to
have their phones glitch or image distort kind of
interference that shows up on many of the anomalous reports
like the one we were just talking about, suggesting the
subject doesn't always want to be captured.
O what do you think Rach is? A quiet orb?
Feel more ominous than somethingflashy?
And would you try to chase it orlet it drift?
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The orbs do the orbs like give off friendlier to you?
Depending on the color of the orbs, yeah, some do.
Some have an ominous feeling andthey do have feelings associated
with what I've seen of them. Yeah, that's true.
Did. You go by gut instinct, like
feeling off it intuitively like this feels kind of cool, but
would you get your car and actually follow it?
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But then what if it could? What if it could emotionally
manipulate you to feel comfortable?
Right, that's true. You never think of that some.
Kind of predator, you know? Yeah.
You're just kind of letting it float over and not deal with it,
but. It makes me wonder, is the orb
extraterrestrial or is it a ghost?
Like a powerful ghost, I think. They're different.
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Those little orbs that you see floating in the woods sometimes
are over. Cemeteries are a lot different
than a bigger orb that's up in the sky that's way up.
It's so interesting that we didn't experience these orbs
until just the past recent years.
Too. 2012 is when I started seeing them.
Oh, you saw them back then. Yeah, it was around the time of
that shift that they said it wasgoing to be the the end of the
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world. And I knew it had something to
do with something because that started picking up and UFO
activity started picking up. And yeah, that's when I first
started seeing everything. See.
I first start, I see him becauseof TikTok.
That's where I started seeing them.
And then when all the drones andeverything started, people
really started paying attention to the sky, Yeah.
Yeah, it has to come in waves like that for some reason.
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Mm hmm. From a solitary orb over a rural
field to 66 mysterious skywriting events statewide, New
York may be becoming a hotbed ofaerial signals.
If the skies want to speak to us, they're dialing in.
I feel like the. Skies are always cloudy in New
York. They are.
It's always. Hard when I go down to Florida,
it's much easier to see stuff upthere.
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Maybe they don't have the chemtrails that we're getting.
Yeah, wink, wink. Maybe the?
State is like uh huh, ex nae on the chemtrail a we don't need to
flood we're a peninsula, but. Sometimes I'll go out at night
to ground. I just go stand barefoot in the
in the grass at night and I always look up and it'll always
be so cloudy because I always just try to see if I can sneak a
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peek or something, Yeah. It is even when you leave the
state, when I leave and go to Vermont or whatever, and I come
back, as soon as we hit that NewYork line, it's like it's always
cloudy and rainy and just humid and, you know, or snowing.
There's always some sort of precipitation.
It's a little funky, man. We're in October.
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I want our New England fall. I'm ready for crispiness, yes.
I feel like we're just going to go right from summer to winter
and I'm going to be pissed because I love me some fall,
yeah. We're going to go through shock,
go through shock through the seasons because it's so abrupt.
It's true. You go from shorts to sweaters.
And vice versa, yeah. By the way, did you hear about
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Flashlight Fridays up in Mexico?No, it's where you get a
flashlight. I don't know if it's just for
little kids. It looks kind of fun.
And they have like this big cornmaze and you take a flashlight.
You can get snacks and all sortsof stuff and just go through the
maze with your flashlight at night.
Oh. That sounds fun, I like those.
Mazes me too when I was thinking, well that sounds kind
of fun to do. I was in a corn maze and I had a
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migraine. Oh no.
And I. Just started busting through the
walls because I was like, I'm done.
But typically I enjoy a good corn maze, yeah.
I like anything fall, so I like the apple pie, apple cider,
apples, printers, all the apple stuff of course, and pumpkins.
And the smells of everything except for horse manure.
That one I can skip. It's always horse manure at
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those places because there's pony rides and shitty goats.
And pigs, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I think there's goats at this place too.
So you can eat your pumpkin ice cream and smell the poop you.
Know the usual fall smells? This October, Ohio University
Southern is offering a four weekworkshop called Paranormal
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Phenomena and Local Mysteries. Open to the public, no degree
required. The sessions run October 7th,
14th, 21st, and 28th from 6:00 to 8:00 PM and are led by
paranormal investigator Todd Martin.
Topics include Bigfoot, UFO sightings, ghost encounters, and
fringe phenomena like the Mandela Effect, all with a side
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of skepticism built in. If we taught a veil mechanics
one O 1, I'd put a dream bleed detection on session 2.
What would you do for our first assignment?
What? The dream.
I write these in like 2 in the morning, 3:00 in the morning.
I feel like I would just go to the class and be like, I know
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more than you, OK? I feel like I would be
disappointed because they have some local classes like that
where they, you know, teach about Bigfoot, ghosts and this
and that. And I'm like, am I going to
actually learn anything? Do I sound like a ghost snob?
No, I get it. Yeah.
Because do you, I mean, do you think you're going to learn?
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That's how I feel with the psychic and medium classes.
Like I'm not really learning, I learn more on my own.
Yeah, the the books get repetitive.
And the teachers, they only giveyou a little bit, just enough to
buy the next class. Yeah.
You got to go to their, you got to go to their workshop.
That's right, yeah. Go to their and then you got to
buy the products. What is it?
The retreats? Then you got to go to the
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retreats. The retreats are expensive,
yeah, like. What the heck?
We're. All psychic.
Yeah, we're all psychic. Just.
Different degrees and levels andvarieties.
You don't have to. Pay people thousands of dollars.
No, just invest some time in yourself.
It's one thing to chase mystery in the dark, it's another to
bring it to a classroom light. Whether this workshop becomes
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legend or just lecture to sign the weirdest slipping into the
syllabus and I'm curious what the final exam will look like, I
don't. Want to like talk down these
like that's cool that they're doing it.
And I think if you are curious, and especially if you don't have
a community that you can talk about it like it's cool, go to
the class. Yeah, we're not snobs.
There's got to be newbies everywhere and you have to
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dabble somewhere, right? And.
Honestly, maybe I would learn something new.
I don't know that much about Bigfoot and cryptids, so that
might be interesting exactly if you're into that kind of thing.
I'm just. Being.
I'm just being a little SHIT. I think you're just playing
devil's advocate. Yeah, A.
Little bit. Not a bug, not a bird, not even
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a shadow. So what was it?
What was it? In Clearwater, FL, a home owner
was reviewing doorbell footage from a lazy Thursday afternoon
when they noticed something off.At exactly 216 PM, a translucent
humanoid shape appeared to crossthe driveway.
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No blur, no wings, no reflection.
This wasn't one of those maybe it's a moth night time clips.
It was crisp daylight. The figure strode from left to
right, legs and arms moving likea person, but fully see through
like heat shimmer in a humanoid outline.
It was only visible for about 3 seconds before vanishing behind
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a parked car and never reappeared.
That one's a little more strangethan orbs and flickers.
If you saw that in your driveway, what would you do?
Go check or lock every door and call it a day.
Not opening the door. Okay.
Not. Inviting it in.
So you're just gonna keep checking those cameras I'll.
Keep checking the cameras. I'll save that video and put.
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It on TikTok put it. On TikTok, get it dissected and
tested and. We've featured on the Beyond
files, yeah. Beyond the Beyond files and have
someone approve it so they know it's not AI, Yeah.
Nice. I would profit off of it.
Security footage is the new say on silent and partial, and
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sometimes showing us more than we bargained for.
This might be a glitch, sure, but if our homes are being
visited by beings in light phaseor cloak mode, then the veil
isn't thinning, it's walking straight across the lawn.
Discovery or premature announcement?
Just days ago, an international memo from a NASA contractor
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briefly surfaced online claimingthat microbial life had been
detected in an ice core sample. Analysis is ongoing.
The claim describes self replicating microstructures
showing carbon chains and anomalous movement under
microscope language eerily similar to a 1996 paper about
the ALH 84001 meteorite that caused a similar storm of
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speculation. What's catching people's
attention now isn't just the content, but the speed at which
the memo was scrubbed and all references deleted, leading some
scientists to speculate it was either a premature release or
trial balloon. If true, this would be the first
confirmed alien life form ever detected, even if microscopic if
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faults. It's one of the biggest science
missteps in decades. If tomorrow NASA said yes, life
confirmed on Mars, how would youfeel?
Rage relief? I wouldn't.
Believe it. Nah, you don't even think we got
there, huh? No, they're like, OK.
Did we even break the firmament I.
Just feel like it would be a distraction from something else
that they're doing. It always is.
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Whether it's a mistake, a leak, or the slow rolling of
disclosure, one thing is clear. We're not alone in the
conversation anymore, even if the first beings we meet are
microbes. The veil between worlds just got
thinner. And now for our listener Lore,
the man with the glowing eyes, submitted by K from West
Virginia. What of Virginia today, huh?
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Maybe it's a distant cousin. Maybe it is.
It's a cousin, Mama. This was a real submission,
edited for clarity, shared with permission.
This story comes to us from a listener we'll call Kay, who
grew up in the mountains of WestVirginia.
When she was 10, her older brother had just gotten his
license, and he would drive themdown the winding Mountain Rd. at
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dusk to get soda from a gas station about 20 minutes away.
Do they say soda or pop in Virginia?
I don't know. I.
Think they say pop? That might be Midwest, I don't
know. One night, while coming back
from one of those trips, they rounded a bend where the trees
cleared for just a moment, and that's when they saw him.
There was a man standing on the side of the road, she writes,
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but not on the road. He was hovering just above the
ditch, maybe 6 inches up. I remember every detail.
Black Hat, long brown coat and glowing orange eyes.
My brother slammed the brakes and I swear to you, he didn't
move. He just stared at us like he
knew we'd seen him. Kay says the moment felt slow,
like time distorted. The man blinked once and then
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vanished in front of their eyes.Later, their grandfather told
them stories of watchers in the mountains, glowing eyed spirits
said to appear to young people when something big was about to
change in their lives. Kay says she never saw him
again, but months later, her brother joined the Navy and left
home. And two weeks after that, she
began having dreams of lights inthe forest and voices calling
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her name. So what do you make of the
glowing eyes, Rach? What do they show up across
cultures? And do you think this figure was
protecting them or testing them?Well, it seems like it's it had
a purpose to reach that girl because now that she's dreaming
that she's seeing the eyes and she's getting called into the
woods. Like do you think that she's
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supposed to go into the woods ordo you think it's a trap?
Like they want her soul. That's the thing, because.
Like, what if that happened to you?
Would you feel like you're supposed to go into the woods?
I think you would have to go based and most of us go right
into fear, right? So you'd have to go based on
intuition, especially. Repetitive dreams.
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Yeah. Dreams are powerful.
That's a good submission. Thank you.
Yeah, well, whether it was a forest watcher, a spirit
guardian, or a memory bleeding through from another timeline,
something was waiting in the trees that night, and it left
its mark. Dream bleed.
Here's my last truth and fire Sidebar.
The veil doesn't just then. It listens.
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It watches for those who noticedthe ripple in the ordinary and
move toward it anyway. Every whisper of wind where
there shouldn't be 1. Every flicker, chill, or echo.
They are not accidents. They are responses not to fear,
but to bravery. You who still listen.
You who still look up. You who light a candle when
others scroll past. You were the reason the Veil
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remembers. This week, we explored more than
just headlines. We peeked behind the curtain of
paranormal classrooms. We listened to haunted houses
call from the woods, learned what happens when you try to
silence a ghost, and felt the quiet tap tap tap of ancestral
memory just beyond the static. Rach, if someone still is with
us after all of that, they're either extremely brave or
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completely weird, like us. Any thoughts?
Welcome. You're you're in the in the.
Right place in the. Crowd here, yeah.
Well, whether you believe, question, or just enjoy the
ride, you're welcome here. As Rachel said, until next time,
keep your light on, keep your eyes open and whatever you do.
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Don't forget to listen. Because the veil remembers those
who remember it to the spirit podcast Supernatural.
Science. I'm Ghost.
Ghost. Ghost, thank you.
Mystic spirit Divine. Source in heaven.
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It's magic Magic, magic, magic magic.
You're listening to to the Spirit podcast.
Welcome back spirit seekers. I'm back and this is beyond the
veil. Your Lantern lit path through
the fog of the strange. The headlines this week are
glowing with static. AV shaped UFO parks itself over
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Laa, Ghost hunting class hits the college syllabus, high tech
scanners light up the haunted halls of Alcatraz, and someone
or something is dropping off mysterious boxes while dressed
like a paper masked flower demon.
You know, just another quiet week on earth.
And of course, I'm not crossing dimensions alone with me as
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always, as the woman who could banish A poltergeist with
nothing but a raised eyebrow anda cup of black coffee, My Co
host, resident tarot Slinger, and the only person I trust to
talk me out of investigating abandoned asylums at 3:00 AM.
Rachel. Hey Beck, hello spirit seekers
out there. Tonight's episode also includes
a strange tale from history, shadow and listener Lord that
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might just crawl under your skinand whisper Remember Me?
So grab your mug, your mirror, and maybe some sage.
We're going in kicking us off this week.
The paranormal just went scholastic.
A Community College in upstate New York is now offering non
credit courses in ghost hunting.Yes, you heard that right.
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Students are grabbing R.E.M. pods, EMF meters, and night
vision cameras instead of textbooks.
The course dives into everythingfrom spirit communication tools
to investigation ethics and is being taught by a seasoned local
team with decades of experience.Now I know what you're thinking.
Is this a gimmick or a real movetowards institutionalizing
paranormal studies? But here's the thing, this isn't
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just for kicks. The school says demand for
classes like this has grown as more people become open to
exploring spiritual phenomena, especially after the cultural
weirdness of the last few years.Students range from curious
retirees to Gen. Z thrill seekers looking for
proof of the beyond. What I love is that they're not
treating it like a joke. The syllabus apparently includes
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historical hauntings, equipment demos and best practices for
investigations, including how todebunk activity.
Imagine getting graded on your EVP technique.
I'd finally pass a class with flying orbs.
Maybe I wouldn't have dropped out of college.
That was my major. Rach, would you teach a course
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in this? And if you did, what kind of pop
quiz would you give? I would teach a course on it and
a pop quiz would be Did you do the 3:00 AM alone challenge?
Oh boy, that would What would you be teaching?
What would be your specialty? Spirit communication, OK.
You like it? You like?
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It I love the spirit communication, so it would.
Be like EVP. We'd have to teach it together.
Oh, because you're the master. I I would be in there with you.
Yeah, we could do it as a team. We'll write a textbook together.
This is what you do, and this isn't what you do.
And if you don't pay attention in class, your ass is going to
get haunted. We'll stick the spirits on you.
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You know what this makes me think?
As wild as it seems, maybe this is a part of a slow shift.
You know, we used to mock the supernatural.
Now we're studying it. Maybe institutions are finally
starting to admit they don't have all the answers either.
And hey, if haunted dorms start offering extra credit, sign me
up. But I do have a truth and fire
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sidebar as always. What they call education might
be initiation and disguise. R.E.M. pods and EMF meters are
fine, but the real tools are older Instinct, courage, the
willingness to stand still in the presence of the unseen.
You don't need a certificate to walk between worlds, but you
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will be tested. The veil doesn't care if you
passed your class and only wantsto know.
Are you still afraid of the dark?
That's good. Next up, the Ghost of Alcatraz
might be getting digitally unmasked.
A recent private investigation team was granted rare access to
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the Rock after hours and this time they brought more than EMF
meters. They use thermal drones and a
piece of military grade gear known as a full spectrum
environmental scanner. I think we need one of those.
Sounds fancy, right somebody? Want to donate one to us?
Let us know, will he accept? This device reportedly maps
electromagnetic fluctuations andtemperature anomalies in 3D
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space, basically giving you a ghost's eye view of the room.
Here's the weird part. The scanner consistently lit up
in the areas with documented violent history.
One of the strongest spikes camenear cell 14D, known to many as
the solitary confinement cell, where prisoners used to claim
they were being watched by red eyed figures in the dark.
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That exact spot reportedly sent the scanner into a fit, with
light pulses flickering and whata team called a deliberate
pattern. Then get this.
The lead investigator said that while standing in the cell, he
got sudden nausea, blurred vision and a pressure wave
against his chest. The same symptoms were
experienced by a second team member 10 minutes later on the
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opposite end of the building. So Rach, if you had access to a
high tech haunted prison, do youthink that the gear helps or
hinders the real spiritual contact I.
Think depending on how intense it is.
I think sometimes the basics arebetter and they already give it
electromagnetic field, so if youare combating it with your own
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electromagnetic things, maybe they're getting dizzy and
nauseous because there's just somuch EMF battling that's good.
I had never thought of that. I don't like that theory.
Maybe you could teach classes. Whether it's the tech evolving
or spirits responding to being studied differently, something
is shifting. Maybe they want to be seen on
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their own terms, or maybe this new evidence is the only way we
can translate what's already screaming beneath the surface.
From the dungeons of Alcatraz tothe skies over LA.
This next one feels like something out of a storyboard
for a sci-fi film. Multiple witnesses in Los
Angeles reported AV shaped crafthovering silently above
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neighborhoods for nearly 30 minutes late last week and had
no visible wings, no sound and afaint pattern of glowing under
lights that some said pulse likea heartbeat.
Videos are already circulating online and have been submitted
to MUFON and New Fork NUFORC. What the hell is that, Rach?
And you what? Is that new fork?
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I know what MUFON is, Mutual UFONetwork, but what's new for?
Should have done my homework on this.
National UFO Reporting Center. Thank you, Rage.
Authorities haven't offered an explanation yet.
It wasn't on any FAA flight maps, and LAX officials denied
having scheduled flight tests ofany new aircrafts.
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For many, Angela knows it was the first time they'd seen a
craft so large just sit there, not zoom by.
It's also eerily similar to sightings reported in Belgium in
the 1990s and the infamous Phoenix Lights.
And here's the odd detail. Some witnesses say their phones
glitched or stopped recording when they tried to zoom in, an
effect you'd expect from a high-powered jammer but not from
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an unknown craft. Would you want to see something
like that alone at 2:00 AM, standing in your yard with your
phone ready but failing? I would want somebody with me.
I want somebody to see it with me because they wouldn't believe
me. Yeah, because your phone's
failing and the. Phone's failing.
Oh, it's just like, did you evensee it?
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I mean, I do tell people that I've seen spirits and they
believe me. And then isn't it like once you
see them then your occurrences of seeing them is more frequent?
Usually it's like, yeah, you're marked.
And those triangles, man, I don't know the triangles.
They give a vibe. I have never seen a triangle
yet. I've only seen the orbs.
I've only seen the blinkers. And the blinkers, but never the
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triangles. Those seem more ominous, more
government, but I don't know. And triangles man.
Those triangles? They're only good for one thing,
Dips. Yeah, tortillas.
Whether it's a classified test or a visitor writing geometry
across the night Sky, One thing certain Los Angeles just got its
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own new entry in the UFO files. Every so often, a haunted object
story rises to the surface with enough floor to make even the
seasoned paranormal buffs raise an eyebrow.
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This time, it's the return of the infamous Box Demon who a
woman in Oregon posted a video claiming that a Dybot box she
inherited from her grandmother, sealed and untouched for 12
years, began rattling on its ownduring a thunderstorm.
She had placed it in a locked curio cabinet sealed in resin
after a decade of nightmares andunexplained illnesses she
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believed were tied to it. But the security camera in her
home captured the sound of something tapping from inside
the cabinet when she opened the door.
The resin seal was cracked from within.
For context, A dybok box rooted in Jewish folklore is believed
to house a malevolent spirit or trapped soul, usually attached
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to grief, trauma or rage. Think of it like a grief cursed
containment unit. She's now asking for help online
to properly dispose or reseal it, but of course some
commenters want her to open it on camera.
Hell. No.
So Rachel, what would you do if someone offered you a sealed
dibbic box on eBay? I want nothing to do with
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Dibbix. They creep me out, I think.
I suspect somebody's house has some the form of a dibbic in it.
Someone you know? Yeah.
Oh I think there's a dibbic ish vibe to it and I don't know I
saw that. Was that one movie with the
divic? Was it called divic?
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I just remember like that was the that was the thing that was
maybe there was there's a girl that had a divic box.
I think in the movie. They're creepy.
I don't know. That's bad juju.
I. Wouldn't be making it a
centerpiece of my house and I'm certainly not I No, I want
nothing to do with it. I got 99 problems in a divicate
1. You got ghost problems.
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I feel bad for your son. We don't always get to choose
what comes back, especially whenwe think we've buried it for
good. Whether this is psychological,
spiritual, or something strangerstill, it's a powerful reminder
some doors don't want to stay closed.
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This next one sounds like an urban legend, but it's
circulating from multiple trucker reports out of Interior
Alaska. Several long haul drivers
traveling along the Dalton Highway reported a bizarre
phenomenon. A10 mile stretch of road near
the Yukon River Bridge allegedlyvanished from both their GPS
systems and their physical view.1 driver claimed that while he
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was following his GPS, the road simply ceased to exist.
The terrain ahead looked like untouched wilderness.
No pavement, no signage, no evidence of Rd. had ever even
been there. He stopped.
He reversed. He double checked his maps.
Then less than an hour later, the road was back as if nothing
had happened. And this isn't an isolated case.
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A Reddit thread in Alaska Survival Group has locals
chiming in with similar tales going back years, missing roads,
loops that didn't exist before, and even time distortion.
Some are blaming magnetic anomalies in that region, other
suspect military experiments, HARP interference, or even
window zones. Areas where reality thins.
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And of course, this ties right into the ongoing chatter about
time slips and dimensional overlaps we've been seeing more
of in 2025. If the road blinked out ahead of
you while you were driving, would you trust your instincts
or your GPS? Or would you pull over and wait
for reality to catch up? If I have heard of this existing
before, I think I might want to go explore the.
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Oh, you're going deeper. That's kind of interesting.
What if you? Can't get back out.
What if it's like the Bermuda Triangle and you're gone, but
it's. Cool too though.
What if you like go into Wonderland or something?
Oh my God. Really, Wonderland, you already
know not to go through the thresholds in the woods.
Don't climb the stairs, don't open the door, don't go through
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the gate. Stay away from the arches.
But you're going to keep drivingdown the road.
Yeah, it might be a trap. It might be a trap.
OK. Seems like it would probably be
a trap if you see beautiful women that have fruits that
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they're offering. Oh, now we're putting.
Sirens on the road, Yeah, OK, well with the path ahead
dissolves, are we seeing a glitch in the map or a mirror in
the matrix? Either way, it's enough to make
you take the long way home. I.
Don't know what I would do if I experienced that.
I mean, sometimes the GPS takes you the wrong way.
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Sometimes it takes you right offa Cliff.
Rage. Like one time it just took me on
the opposite way of the Thruway so I was already like 2 hours
away and I it. Was doing that to me a lot
yesterday. It was taking me into weird
places that it should have knownnot to go that way.
It was making me go all out of the way to get to a certain
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spot. I'm like, yo, why are you making
me go right when I have to go left?
What's happening? Sometimes spirit directs you
like if it's protecting you well.
I got confused because between the directions in my brain I
ended up just missing the exit all together and having to
completely backtrack. So I guess in the end it worked
out, but still. Yeah, back in the day when we
used to have maps. Yeah, MapQuest.
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And before that, we had the AAA maps we had to order, and those
were spectacular because you hadto actually open these giant
maps and like, route your way down to Florida.
Yeah, how did you do that? If you're by yourself, you said
freedom map you. Had to pull over or keep it on
the seat next to you and look because I did it.
Wow. Yeah, it's roughing.
It good. Old days.
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thespiritpod@gmail.com and if itgives us chills, we might just
share it. Now it's time for a strange tale
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from history's shadow. Long before the glowing eyes
loomed over Silver Bridge, before Point Pleasant became
synonymous with the Mothman, there was another story nearly
lost to time. In 1916, scattered reports began
to surface from foggy riverbanksof West Virginia, Not in
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newspapers, but tucked in personal Diaries, handwritten
letters, and whispered conversations.
The townsfolk spoke of Birdman, tall, humanoid shaped, with
outstretched wings and luminescent red eyes.
They were spotted at dusk, circling cliffs or Crouch to top
barns. One account described them in
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pairs, moving like Sentinels. A child wrote of waking to wing
beats, tapping against her bedroom window and seeing 2
glowing eyes just beyond the glass.
Another family claimed their barn was ransacked from above.
Feathers not from any known birdfound strewn around the hay.
They vanished just as suddenly as they appeared.
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The incidents were brushed off, forgotten, buried beneath coal
dust in the slow churn of history.
Until 1966, when the Mothman appeared again, this time to
stay in the public's imagination.
Some believe these 1916 entitiesweren't just early Mothman, but
something older, a reoccurring archetype.
Maybe Watchers, maybe warnings, maybe echoes of something trying
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to Pierce The Veil again and again.
What do you think, Rachel? Their precursor sightings to
modern paranormal events that wemissed because they didn't have
catchy names yet. I'm kind of curious because I, I
do have family that are from West Virginia Mountain Mama.
I, I kind of want to see if I can reach out.
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I don't know if any of them still live in West Virginia, but
I'd like to find out if that's something that they're aware of
or the maybe they have their ownstories of it that.
'D be good, you should reach out.
Do you think beings like Mothmencould be repeaters?
Oh yeah. Like a different, different
version of it. Yeah.
Like they evolve over time. I think that's possible.
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History doesn't always repeat. Sometimes it reminds with wings
and with glowing eyes. In a dramatic twist, Yorktown
Memorial Hospital, long operatedas a haunted site by paranormal
tour group Curious Twins Tours and Events, is now off limits.
The city has officially declaredthe building structurally
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unsafe, shutting down public access overnight.
The hospital, built in 1951 and abandoned since 1992, has a
storied reputation. Shadow figures, cries in the
halls, unexplained footsteps. The new owners bought it only
months ago and had just begin reopening it for investigations
and tours. Now the city says it's too
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dangerous, though the tour operators claim the insection
came with only 15 minutes noticeand no clear remedy plan.
Rach do you think sirits care about building codes or is it us
who just can't keep U? Experience give a damn about.
Well, they might care if the place that they're they're used
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to starts crumbling down. And if you fix it, maybe they'll
be happier. Yeah, it does.
Peak up too with renovations, usually the activity right, but
I don't. Think they care if there's mold
or anything. No, they don't.
No, no. Sometimes the walls that trap
ghosts also trap our access. Whether by neglect or fear, the
city has drawn a hard line. But in places so haunted,
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boundaries may need constant renegotiation.
Things in the sky over New York are getting crowded.
Earlier this year, ridges and riverbanks across upstate New
York lit up with reports of a mysterious glowing orb, slow,
silent and shimmering above treetops.
Locals posted photos, videos andstunned commentary after what
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felt like something other than fireworks or planes.
That same period, the National UFO Reporting Center New Fork
recorded 66 UFO sightings acrossNew York State and just the
first half of 2025, about one per day in some months.
These sightings range from glowing spheres to silent
triangles and objects darting and zigzag patterns.
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What's interesting is how many people tried to zoom in only to
have their phones glitch or image distort kind of
interference that shows up on many of the anomalous reports
like the one we were just talking about, suggesting the
subject doesn't always want to be captured.
O what do you think Rach is? A quiet orb?
Feel more ominous than somethingflashy?
And would you try to chase it orlet it drift?
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The orbs do the orbs like give off friendlier to you?
Depending on the color of the orbs, yeah, some do.
Some have an ominous feeling andthey do have feelings associated
with what I've seen of them. Yeah, that's true.
Did. You go by gut instinct, like
feeling off it intuitively like this feels kind of cool, but
would you get your car and actually follow it?
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But then what if it could? What if it could emotionally
manipulate you to feel comfortable?
Right, that's true. You never think of that some.
Kind of predator, you know? Yeah.
You're just kind of letting it float over and not deal with it,
but. It makes me wonder, is the orb
extraterrestrial or is it a ghost?
Like a powerful ghost, I think. They're different.
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Those little orbs that you see floating in the woods sometimes
are over. Cemeteries are a lot different
than a bigger orb that's up in the sky that's way up.
It's so interesting that we didn't experience these orbs
until just the past recent years.
Too. 2012 is when I started seeing them.
Oh, you saw them back then. Yeah, it was around the time of
that shift that they said it wasgoing to be the the end of the
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world. And I knew it had something to
do with something because that started picking up and UFO
activity started picking up. And yeah, that's when I first
started seeing everything. See.
I first start, I see him becauseof TikTok.
That's where I started seeing them.
And then when all the drones andeverything started, people
really started paying attention to the sky, Yeah.
Yeah, it has to come in waves like that for some reason.
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Mm hmm. From a solitary orb over a rural
field to 66 mysterious skywriting events statewide, New
York may be becoming a hotbed ofaerial signals.
If the skies want to speak to us, they're dialing in.
I feel like the. Skies are always cloudy in New
York. They are.
It's always. Hard when I go down to Florida,
it's much easier to see stuff upthere.
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Maybe they don't have the chemtrails that we're getting.
Yeah, wink, wink. Maybe the?
State is like uh huh, ex nae on the chemtrail a we don't need to
flood we're a peninsula, but. Sometimes I'll go out at night
to ground. I just go stand barefoot in the
in the grass at night and I always look up and it'll always
be so cloudy because I always just try to see if I can sneak a
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peek or something, Yeah. It is even when you leave the
state, when I leave and go to Vermont or whatever, and I come
back, as soon as we hit that NewYork line, it's like it's always
cloudy and rainy and just humid and, you know, or snowing.
There's always some sort of precipitation.
It's a little funky, man. We're in October.
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I want our New England fall. I'm ready for crispiness, yes.
I feel like we're just going to go right from summer to winter
and I'm going to be pissed because I love me some fall,
yeah. We're going to go through shock,
go through shock through the seasons because it's so abrupt.
It's true. You go from shorts to sweaters.
And vice versa, yeah. By the way, did you hear about
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Flashlight Fridays up in Mexico?No, it's where you get a
flashlight. I don't know if it's just for
little kids. It looks kind of fun.
And they have like this big cornmaze and you take a flashlight.
You can get snacks and all sortsof stuff and just go through the
maze with your flashlight at night.
Oh. That sounds fun, I like those.
Mazes me too when I was thinking, well that sounds kind
of fun to do. I was in a corn maze and I had a
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migraine. Oh no.
And I. Just started busting through the
walls because I was like, I'm done.
But typically I enjoy a good corn maze, yeah.
I like anything fall, so I like the apple pie, apple cider,
apples, printers, all the apple stuff of course, and pumpkins.
And the smells of everything except for horse manure.
That one I can skip. It's always horse manure at
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those places because there's pony rides and shitty goats.
And pigs, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I think there's goats at this place too.
So you can eat your pumpkin ice cream and smell the poop you.
Know the usual fall smells? This October, Ohio University
Southern is offering a four weekworkshop called Paranormal
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Phenomena and Local Mysteries. Open to the public, no degree
required. The sessions run October 7th,
14th, 21st, and 28th from 6:00 to 8:00 PM and are led by
paranormal investigator Todd Martin.
Topics include Bigfoot, UFO sightings, ghost encounters, and
fringe phenomena like the Mandela Effect, all with a side
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of skepticism built in. If we taught a veil mechanics
one O 1, I'd put a dream bleed detection on session 2.
What would you do for our first assignment?
What? The dream.
I write these in like 2 in the morning, 3:00 in the morning.
I feel like I would just go to the class and be like, I know
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more than you, OK? I feel like I would be
disappointed because they have some local classes like that
where they, you know, teach about Bigfoot, ghosts and this
and that. And I'm like, am I going to
actually learn anything? Do I sound like a ghost snob?
No, I get it. Yeah.
Because do you, I mean, do you think you're going to learn?
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That's how I feel with the psychic and medium classes.
Like I'm not really learning, I learn more on my own.
Yeah, the the books get repetitive.
And the teachers, they only giveyou a little bit, just enough to
buy the next class. Yeah.
You got to go to their, you got to go to their workshop.
That's right, yeah. Go to their and then you got to
buy the products. What is it?
The retreats? Then you got to go to the
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retreats. The retreats are expensive,
yeah, like. What the heck?
We're. All psychic.
Yeah, we're all psychic. Just.
Different degrees and levels andvarieties.
You don't have to. Pay people thousands of dollars.
No, just invest some time in yourself.
It's one thing to chase mystery in the dark, it's another to
bring it to a classroom light. Whether this workshop becomes
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legend or just lecture to sign the weirdest slipping into the
syllabus and I'm curious what the final exam will look like, I
don't. Want to like talk down these
like that's cool that they're doing it.
And I think if you are curious, and especially if you don't have
a community that you can talk about it like it's cool, go to
the class. Yeah, we're not snobs.
There's got to be newbies everywhere and you have to
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dabble somewhere, right? And.
Honestly, maybe I would learn something new.
I don't know that much about Bigfoot and cryptids, so that
might be interesting exactly if you're into that kind of thing.
I'm just. Being.
I'm just being a little SHIT. I think you're just playing
devil's advocate. Yeah, A.
Little bit. Not a bug, not a bird, not even
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a shadow. So what was it?
What was it? In Clearwater, FL, a home owner
was reviewing doorbell footage from a lazy Thursday afternoon
when they noticed something off.At exactly 216 PM, a translucent
humanoid shape appeared to crossthe driveway.
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No blur, no wings, no reflection.
This wasn't one of those maybe it's a moth night time clips.
It was crisp daylight. The figure strode from left to
right, legs and arms moving likea person, but fully see through
like heat shimmer in a humanoid outline.
It was only visible for about 3 seconds before vanishing behind
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a parked car and never reappeared.
That one's a little more strangethan orbs and flickers.
If you saw that in your driveway, what would you do?
Go check or lock every door and call it a day.
Not opening the door. Okay.
Not. Inviting it in.
So you're just gonna keep checking those cameras I'll.
Keep checking the cameras. I'll save that video and put.
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It on TikTok put it. On TikTok, get it dissected and
tested and. We've featured on the Beyond
files, yeah. Beyond the Beyond files and have
someone approve it so they know it's not AI, Yeah.
Nice. I would profit off of it.
Security footage is the new say on silent and partial, and
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sometimes showing us more than we bargained for.
This might be a glitch, sure, but if our homes are being
visited by beings in light phaseor cloak mode, then the veil
isn't thinning, it's walking straight across the lawn.
Discovery or premature announcement?
Just days ago, an international memo from a NASA contractor
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briefly surfaced online claimingthat microbial life had been
detected in an ice core sample. Analysis is ongoing.
The claim describes self replicating microstructures
showing carbon chains and anomalous movement under
microscope language eerily similar to a 1996 paper about
the ALH 84001 meteorite that caused a similar storm of
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speculation. What's catching people's
attention now isn't just the content, but the speed at which
the memo was scrubbed and all references deleted, leading some
scientists to speculate it was either a premature release or
trial balloon. If true, this would be the first
confirmed alien life form ever detected, even if microscopic if
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faults. It's one of the biggest science
missteps in decades. If tomorrow NASA said yes, life
confirmed on Mars, how would youfeel?
Rage relief? I wouldn't.
Believe it. Nah, you don't even think we got
there, huh? No, they're like, OK.
Did we even break the firmament I.
Just feel like it would be a distraction from something else
that they're doing. It always is.
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Whether it's a mistake, a leak, or the slow rolling of
disclosure, one thing is clear. We're not alone in the
conversation anymore, even if the first beings we meet are
microbes. The veil between worlds just got
thinner. And now for our listener Lore,
the man with the glowing eyes, submitted by K from West
Virginia. What of Virginia today, huh?
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Maybe it's a distant cousin. Maybe it is.
It's a cousin, Mama. This was a real submission,
edited for clarity, shared with permission.
This story comes to us from a listener we'll call Kay, who
grew up in the mountains of WestVirginia.
When she was 10, her older brother had just gotten his
license, and he would drive themdown the winding Mountain Rd. at
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dusk to get soda from a gas station about 20 minutes away.
Do they say soda or pop in Virginia?
I don't know. I.
Think they say pop? That might be Midwest, I don't
know. One night, while coming back
from one of those trips, they rounded a bend where the trees
cleared for just a moment, and that's when they saw him.
There was a man standing on the side of the road, she writes,
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but not on the road. He was hovering just above the
ditch, maybe 6 inches up. I remember every detail.
Black Hat, long brown coat and glowing orange eyes.
My brother slammed the brakes and I swear to you, he didn't
move. He just stared at us like he
knew we'd seen him. Kay says the moment felt slow,
like time distorted. The man blinked once and then
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vanished in front of their eyes.Later, their grandfather told
them stories of watchers in the mountains, glowing eyed spirits
said to appear to young people when something big was about to
change in their lives. Kay says she never saw him
again, but months later, her brother joined the Navy and left
home. And two weeks after that, she
began having dreams of lights inthe forest and voices calling
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her name. So what do you make of the
glowing eyes, Rach? What do they show up across
cultures? And do you think this figure was
protecting them or testing them?Well, it seems like it's it had
a purpose to reach that girl because now that she's dreaming
that she's seeing the eyes and she's getting called into the
woods. Like do you think that she's
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supposed to go into the woods ordo you think it's a trap?
Like they want her soul. That's the thing, because.
Like, what if that happened to you?
Would you feel like you're supposed to go into the woods?
I think you would have to go based and most of us go right
into fear, right? So you'd have to go based on
intuition, especially. Repetitive dreams.
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Yeah. Dreams are powerful.
That's a good submission. Thank you.
Yeah, well, whether it was a forest watcher, a spirit
guardian, or a memory bleeding through from another timeline,
something was waiting in the trees that night, and it left
its mark. Dream bleed.
Here's my last truth and fire Sidebar.
The veil doesn't just then. It listens.
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It watches for those who noticedthe ripple in the ordinary and
move toward it anyway. Every whisper of wind where
there shouldn't be 1. Every flicker, chill, or echo.
They are not accidents. They are responses not to fear,
but to bravery. You who still listen.
You who still look up. You who light a candle when
others scroll past. You were the reason the Veil
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remembers. This week, we explored more than
just headlines. We peeked behind the curtain of
paranormal classrooms. We listened to haunted houses
call from the woods, learned what happens when you try to
silence a ghost, and felt the quiet tap tap tap of ancestral
memory just beyond the static. Rach, if someone still is with
us after all of that, they're either extremely brave or
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completely weird, like us. Any thoughts?
Welcome. You're you're in the in the.
Right place in the. Crowd here, yeah.
Well, whether you believe, question, or just enjoy the
ride, you're welcome here. As Rachel said, until next time,
keep your light on, keep your eyes open and whatever you do.
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Don't forget to listen. Because the veil remembers those
who remember it to the spirit podcast Supernatural.
Science. I'm Ghost.
Ghost. Ghost, thank you.
Mystic spirit Divine. Source in heaven.
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It's magic Magic, magic, magic magic.
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