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May 6, 2025 48 mins

🎙️ Guest: Dennison Bertram, Co-founder & CEO of Tally.xyz
🕒 Duration: ~49 minutes

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Episode Overview

On this week’s episode of Token for Your Thoughts, Lindsey McConaghy sits down with Dennison Bertram, Co-founder of Tally.xyz.

They cover a lot:

From accidentally getting subpoenaed by the SEC… to helping DAOs like Uniswap and Arbitrum run votes that actually matter.

This isn’t just about protocols and proposals, it’s about what it really takes to build through uncertainty, find staying power in Web3, and design systems that give token holders more than just empty promises.


In this episode:

  • The story behind Tally’s founding - from a Google Doc to powering billions in DAO governance
  • Dennison’s Farmville dinner table moment (and why credible neutrality still matters today)
  • What “liquid staked governance” means, and why it might be the future of community participation
  • How to get token launches right, and why most teams miss their biggest chance at leverage
  • The highs, lows, and hard-won lessons of building in crypto through the Gensler era

If you’re building, launching, or just trying to understand the real mechanics of governance, this one’s worth a listen.

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Where to Listen

🔹 Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/govern-like-you-mean-it-dennison-bertram-on-how-tally/id1799063494?i=1000706599505
🔹 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/0zYvbf9g1VH66UsUzilRhY?si=fc8790cc97214a38
🔹 YouTube → https://youtu.be/dNZQ9hJT_0w

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Connect with Dennison & Tally

🐦 X (Twitter): @DennisonBertram @tallyxyz
🌐 Website: Tally.xyz

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