Watching "With Love, Meghan" With Love in our Hearts

T Lo watched Meghan Markle's new Netflix series "With Love, Meghan" and have tons of opinions on what worked, what didn't, and what they say about the Duchess of Sussex's approach to her own image-making. PLUS: recaps of the latest boring episodes of "Severance" and "The White Lotus."

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're Tomy Lorenzo and this is the Pop Style Opinion
First Telegits. Welcome back to another edition of the Pso
I am the teen, You're Tilo Tom Fitzgerald, and I'm
here with the low and you Tila Lorenzo because my lother.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Has but it's funny. I keep call me Lorento more kids.
You know, I'm Fitzgerald now.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Sussex, and I know, I know't you know?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Now that I have cats, you know, I feel like
I need to keep my name now.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Lorenzo is not explaining anything, although I guess you would
get the reference if you're tuning in, yes, you probably
do get the reference. But we are going to be
devoting a considerable amount of today's podcast to Meghan Sussex's
new TV venture with Love Meghan. We I brought it

(01:13):
up before the show dropped. I said, you know, we
really should do a podcast on that show, and then
the two of us kind of burst out laughing and
we were like, no, we're just going to be mean,
and then that's you know, there's going to be so
much blowback. There is still blowback. I want to add
for that Vanity Fair quote, the ones I know there
is still we're still getting shit about that.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I was on TikTok today and someone I think it
was an old TikTok or whatever, but they were they
were actually talking about the article like that. There was
a picture of the cover and they were discussing the
article in discussing Megan Marco.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, the thing is, I do think that Vanity Fair
article was something of a sea change moment in terms
of how the American press is covering these two. It
felt like, and I do think this is why there
was so much blowback. It felt like the gloves were off.
And by that I don't mean I don't really feel
that she or they were being attacked in that article.

(02:10):
I think it was a very straightforward look at two
medium moguls who are living their very public lives. But
it felt like an appeal. The author was had free
rein or was given free rain, or felt free rein
to just be much more critical of the Sussexes than

(02:32):
the American press has generally been.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I feel like that opened the flood floodgates a little bit,
because if you look at the reviews of With Love Megan,
the American press is pretty brutal to them. And they've
been dealing. They've been treating them with kid gloves up
until now. Right, I want to say, listen, before we
even start, We're not going to be brutal. No, I'm
not going to trash. Listen the show. He's harmless. It's harmless.

(03:01):
It's hardle but it's harmless.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's not offensive or anything like to be outraged, you know, now,
h's it's just that, it's it's And I want to
keep my comments as much as I can on the
show because I don't want to, you know, I don't
want to criticize her or her husband or whatever. He
was barely on the show, and I do want to

(03:24):
talk about the show in general. And and yeah, because
I watched the whole thing, I watched the entire.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I watched six episodes to tap out at that point,
I'm done. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I felt like I had to finish the whole thing,
because especially the last episode is about her and celebrating
the saw a little bit of that. Yeah, it's her
celebrating the show and he shows up finally, Yeah, I know,
for a few scenes toasts her, and he's very nervous.
It's it's interesting because he's so nervous, and I don't
blame him like you know you damn if you do,

(03:55):
or if you don't.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, all right, let's pull back. Anyway, we're going
into the granular stuff before we've done the overview. So
we talked about this, about doing this podcast on the
With Love Meghan Show, and then we thought, oh, no,
I don't know, we're going to be really mean. And
then we talked it out and I said, no, I
don't think we're going to be mean. First off, I
don't think we're mean to Megan. I think we're critical

(04:18):
of her sometimes, but I don't think we're mean the
way the British press is, regardless of what they say
about us on Reddit. However, then the series dropped last Friday.
We were in the throes of covering finishing our coverage
on the Oscars, so we really have time to watch
it until later in the weekend. But the immediate I mean,

(04:39):
the reviews were really bad and it felt like people
were just running for them. And the thing is I
felt I felt briefly like, oh, maybe we shouldn't contribute
to this. But then I sat and I watched the
whole thing, and I thought, no, I think we can
do a nuanced thing before I toss back to you,
because I know you want to say something. I just

(05:01):
want to say the most common response to any criticism
of this show is, well, maybe it's not for you.
And before anybody says that to me, ladies and gentlemen,
I have been watching craft shows and cooking shows and
homeware decorse shows since the nineties. I know I am

(05:21):
absolutely the person who would sit down and watch a
show like this if it was good. And I am
going to bring all of my experience watching other shows
like this yeah, and talking about it. So if you
want to say that we're just two dudes and the
show's not for you, and it's like, well, you can
say that. You're allowed to say whatever you want. But
we're actually coming from a place where we've been watching

(05:43):
shows like this for thirty years, right.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I think that's number one. I think anyone's allowed to
criticize the show. I mean, I see this whole thing
out there that, oh, you know, it's not for you,
so you shouldn't criticize it. No, anyone's allowed to criticize anything.
It's part of the business. Criticism's fair, it's part of
the job. You know, I don't like to be criticized.
I don't like when they criticize Tamborenzo dot com. But
it's part of the job. You just have to go

(06:08):
with it. And it's not my kind of show. But
I have watched shows like these. I mean like I've
watched a lot of Martha Stewart when you know, she
had her show and people used to watch her show
on TV, and nobody watched those shows anymore on TV.
At Lisa, I don't see you watching them anymore on TV.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, no, they're all there. They watched them on
your social media.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
But I remember sitting U and watching them on my
TV and enjoying some some you know, tips here and there,
or the way she did something simply.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just watching someone in a pretty setting in are kitchen.
I get it. So I get that that's the Nigela
I used to love, Nigella Angella in a garden, you know, right.
I saw those home day course shows we used to watch.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I understand why people watch those shows. I also
understand why they want to watch her show because they
want to watch her.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
They want to see them on a site the light, right,
And I all right, So let's start getting into into
the show instead of all of this throat clearing that
we're doing. Yes, I agree with you. It's a harmless show.
It's very very pretty to look at. It is a
very very pretty show. It's one of the prettiest of

(07:16):
that type of shows I've ever seen. That will go
hand in hand with one of my critiques, which is
that the show is far more hung up on the
aesthetics than on anything else about what she's doing. But
it is harmless. It is the Montecita lifestyle. It is
exactly you know, you you aren't getting a glimpse of

(07:40):
Megan's life. That's and if you thought that's what you
were going to get with this, I think you that
was a silly assumption on anybody's part. A lot of
people are a lot of people. Does Martha show you
her life? Now, she talk about her kid.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
But Martha is not telling people that she's going to
show her lifestyle, like her life and all that, like
you know, your your home, your family. That's what the
show is selling. That's what the show is selling.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I that's what all of those shows sell, and they're
all phony. This is what I'm going to get to.
One of the main critiques of the show is that
one of the most persistent critiques of the show is
that it's not shot in Megan's house. It's shot and
they're actually not very clear about where it is shot
or how far they are from.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I read an article see that it's not too far
it'santo and not too far from her.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I know it was implied, but they don't actually give
you any information. And that's another one of my complaints
about the show is that it throws you in cold
and you're like, Okay, where are We never explained who
are those people off camera that she's talking to. I mean,
I get that she has a crew, but if you're
going to bring them in and interact and who are they,

(08:51):
it's very weird how that all of that was done.
But going back to the complaint, the critique about her
shooting in a in a fakes setting, Martha did it,
Julia Child did it, in a garden did it? They
have all done it. They all had either fake kitchens
or they had like studios built on their properties or
something like that. That to me is just people looking

(09:13):
for something to complain about. Very few of those shows
are set in the actual person's home.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right but but the I was actually confused. I knew
it wasn't her house, and I was fine with that.
When I saw the kitchen, I was like, all right,
that's not her kitchen. I'm fine with that. But then
they were kept showing, you know, the garden and all
now shots off the front of the house. Why are
you showing me the front of the house when it's
not her house? Yeah, I mean yeah, every.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Episode establishing a shot I mean, which.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Is bullshit because it's not her home. I don't need
to see this. It's not your home. And then when
she oh, I'm just gonna go here in my garden
to get some you know, fruit, and my beehive is
right here behind me. No, it's not it's I don't
it's not. It wasn't her garden. All that stuff belonged
to the house that they rented.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know, I'm saying, I don't know because the show
is not telling me. I know. Yeah, I can go
and read articles about all of that, but that is
a failing of the show.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I agreed. That's my point. When she's sitting with her
makeup friend and they're looking at the hills and oh
my god, this view is so beautiful, Megan, Oh, yes,
it's beautiful, but I can't tell you much about it.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, because now you're home, right.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That threw me off a little. I mean I was fine,
I was fine, but just don't pretend that the backyard
were you're getting like, you know, blueberries or whatever. Berries
and then the beehive, the honey and all that stuff
is coming from your garden because it isn't.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Well, that beehive guy is apparently her beehive guy. But again,
that's another example where why aren't you introducing this person right?
Why aren't you letting them have some camera time? Instead
the camera's entirely on you and they're in the background
doing all of the work. And that's just a strange
way to shoot those sort of interactions. Having watched many

(10:57):
of these shows, let's go to Martha. Martha brings experts on.
Even though Martha likes to be in charge, she has
a long history of bringing experts onto her cooking show.
And then what she does is she shuts up and
let and gives them, she interjects and that sort of thing,
and there's not a the especially with the bee hive guy.

(11:21):
I was like, and this was the opening scene I
was like, this is so badly directed, Like, what is
going on here? Why are we looking at her? I
get that it's her show. I understand, but.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's the work.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
But he is doing the work work. And actually the
more interesting stuff is what he's doing instead of her
talking about her bee voice and and how scared she
isn't all that.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
But that's why when I think it's not so much
her fault is it's the director, the director, and the
producer and everybody.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Voice she is a producer.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh well, there you go. Then it's her fault. It's
because they don't really know what this is one.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It is exactly because no one has a good idea.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Because my favorite episode is it was the Korean Chef. Yes,
that was my favorite episode, and I and clearly uh
by them. I'm sorry, I don't remember anybody's name. Thank
you for helping me here. Uh Like halfway through, I'm like,
I'm loving this, and then I was like, oh, wait
a minute. We barely she barely spoke. It's not no.

(12:21):
Let me let me just say I don't think. I
don't think they like that. I don't want I don't
think they like that. You know, the show.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Someone else comes in and takes over about Megan.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I don't think they would want every episode to
be like that.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And it's a because let's get into this, h girlfriend
doesn't know what the hell she's doing in that kitchen,
and it is so clear to me. I I uh,
you know, I've shared recipes in my in several years
of doing podcasts and and and are blogging and everything,

(12:57):
and I love to cook. We've talked about it on
this podcast, and in response, people will always say, oh
my god, you should like do brooking videos or YouTube
videos or something. And the first thing I think every
single time is I do not need people critiquing my
techniques because I'm not a professional chef. And I mean,
like literally the second she picked up a knife, I

(13:19):
was like, oh, okay, you you're allowing yourself to be
shot like this. It's not a crime to not have
good knife skills. It is questionable as to why you're
giving You were given this show and you have bad
knife skills. Something like that you can learn in a weekend,

(13:41):
you know what I mean. Like she could have gone
to taking a crash course on how to handle kitchen
tools with confidence on camera. It wouldn't have taken that
much time to learn. So my critique is, again, it's
not about Megan being deficient in some way. It's about
her production team, her director, or anybody involved in the

(14:02):
show realizing that she looks timid on camera and she
doesn't look like she knows what she's doing. And I'm
talking about when she's alone in that kitchen, she doesn't
look like she knows what she's doing. That's not a
great persona. If you want to lean into I'm an
amateur and I don't know what I'm doing, that can

(14:24):
be a lot of fun. And then you bring in
like they did with the Korean chif you bring in
an expert, and then the interactions work. But going back
to your point, they clearly want to center Megan on
I mean, she is the center of the show. I
get it, I get it. She's Megan Dutchess, a Sussex.
She is the only reason any of us are tuning in, right,

(14:44):
But you make her look bad, that's my point.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
That's exactly it. I watched the show because she was
the show. Let's face it. I wouldn't watch it because
it's not my thing, but I watch it because it's her.
And again, it goes back to what I said, they
don't know what they're going for. I mean, they don't
know what they're doing here, because what exactly the show
is about if it's about someone who is not a

(15:11):
professional on any of those things. But I want to
try it anyway or tried, and that's how she does
it great, right, But no, I mean when she had
her makeup guy friend and they and they decided to
make to make candles, but they didn't know how to
make candles, so ye had instructions. So she's like, well,
the instructions are here, So why am I watching you

(15:34):
right right?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Why if you're going to do a segment like that,
lean into it and then show me all the fuck
ups and make it funny like you two people stumbling
through a candle making process. But it isn't like that.
It's very nervous, it's very self conscious, and it never
wants to as a show. And this is why I'm
saying it and not her, because I am critiquing a show.

(15:55):
I'm not critiquing her, I know her, right, I'm critiquing
how she appears on camera, how she's being directed on camera,
and what choices the production team and directors are making
and that whole segment with that makeup artist guy who
was kind of funny and everything. It could have been
a lot of fun if she were allowed to loosen

(16:17):
up on camera, but she clearly either is not allowed
to by her I mean she's a producer, or she
feels that she can't, and I think it's the latter.
Megan is so beige and I'm so worried about a
pending and it's just affected everything about her. She used
to be a cable actress. Why is she so uncomfortable
on camera now? Because I think that family fucked her up,

(16:39):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think she there is a deep worry about how
she comes across and it's a lot to do what
she went through, and I don't think that's ever gonna
go way because we're here talking about it.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
She needs a good director. Social media is destroying this show.
She needs a good director to you know Buddy's lack that.
I mean that metaphorically, but listen, I'm watching the show
and I'm like, what is the what was the essence
of this thing here? Because she brings her skinny friends
who clearly never been in a kitchen before, never touched
a knife.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
They're walking like, oh my god, a kitchen. Oh do
we have to eat? It's like what hew?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
But actually that would be funny if it was Megan
and all her rich girlfriends who don't know how to
hold a knight. But again, that was never going to
be the show because Megan's not going to make fun
of herself. She's not going to make fun of her friends.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
But that's that's that's the thing you're not telling me,
which is a weird way to put it, but you
you get what I'm saying. You're not telling me what
to do here, what to watch here? Am I watching
someone who has great skills or tips to give me?
Or am I just watching someone who what they're doing
busting around in a kitchen? And and I and I

(17:53):
just look at everything, and and when you combine everything,
the fact that the tips and the recipes are very,
very basic, we're.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Going to get into that.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
When you combine that with the fact that everything is spotless,
and you can tell that none of those knives, none
of those utensils were ever used before. So that drives
me crazy right there, because I'm like, all right, what
am I getting from this? If you if you were
very good professional. If you know what you're doing, right,
I can put up with all that. The fake kitchen
everything is new. You have assistus like that. Yeah, assistants

(18:25):
bring you everything like already sliced and everything. I can
deal with all that. If the main core here is
teaching me something.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Or the or the actual food is interesting, can I
get into that? I I could not get over that.
It was about charcuterie boards and Mason jars, And I'm like, Megan,
this is so two thousand and nine. It's not even funny.
Like who in America in middle class are above? Who

(18:56):
in America has not done a charcotery board at this point, right, budd,
He's done it. I have been at so many half
assed gatherings with people who don't know how to entertain.
But I mean still threw together.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Freaking ricotta with Honey. I mean even I know that
at this point.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, it's not but she did like three different
shark or crud de Tae boards. She did it like
three times over the course of the six episodes that
I saw. It's not a crime to do it once,
but this is really really basically.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I don't understand. I understand the birthday party and the
gift bags with gordoning tools and like basil seats for kids. Yeah,
are you nuts?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Are you out of your mind?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Late? Are you out of you?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
First of off, those gift bags had the gardening tools
sticking out of them with the pointy parks. Someone they
sing out, and I'm just like, come on, production teams,
somebody use your fucking brain and put that those are
clearly dangerous. You do not hand a child a bag
with sharp objects sticking out of the top of everything

(20:02):
has a tag and just the idea, well we'll get
to that. It's just the idea of giving children gardening.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Right and seeds.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
And it's like, okay, you know what, and this is
what we're gonna get down to if this is when
we get down to the nitty gritty, it's not about them,
it's about you. Megan's because you like to garden and
you like seeds, so you think children want gardening tools
and seeds. This is something of the problem. And this
does get into a little bit of personal stuff about Megan,

(20:33):
but I'll just say again, these are directorial production voices.
They can be mitigated or you can do it in
another way. So much of the show is her like
nervously making people do stuff and nervously talking about, Oh
my god, this person's coming over and I have to
make sure the kitchen is cleaned. I have to I know,

(20:53):
and I know they like donuts and I have to
make them coffee, and so the tone of it is
so nervous all the time time and the best best
best shows of that genre are women like Nigella, Julia Child,
Marcus Stewart, Ina Garton who were either supremely ridiculously confident
or so laid back that none of this stuff bothers them.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Watch Nigella.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I mean, come on, nervous is not something I should
be seeing in a host of this kind of show.
Oh I hope this, or I hope that in my
but no, no, if nothing, I say, if you scrip confidence.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
If you remove everything and you're down to the tips
and recipes, they're nothing. They're very very basic chant stuff
that everybody knows, how, everybody knows how people don't want
to do it anymore because they're silly.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Mason Jar cocktails. When she did that, I was like,
are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Put texts on everything in hen right, you know you
you whatever?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean, I mean, wait, no, let me stop here,
because people always mistake that this this sort of critique
when we make it. I'm not critiquing you from making
Mason Jar cocktails. I know people still do we know
Mason j drinking glasses. I'm critiquing a show in twenty
twenty five presenting that as some sort of entertaining tip

(22:11):
when I'm.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Like, listen, I tag everything, and then yes, the whole.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Thing about her writing like name tags, yeah, everything, it's
this is not how grown ups now, and do you
know how much how expended they are?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm not getting into that. She's selling a lifestyle and
it's not a realistic lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
But it's my god.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Also, I guess my point here is it's not an
aspirational one, like you're always nervous and you're always making
your guests do things, and you're putting labels on everything,
and you're always taking on projects that you don't have
to do. I mean, so it's not, yeah, there was
a way of doing this, and she was and her
team were clearly too nervous to do it that way,

(22:52):
a much more realistic way, because yeah, I don't criticize
her for not shooting in her house.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm fine with that, but.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Did you really think people wanted to see you on
a set. Of course they wanted to see you.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
How many If you want to show a fake kitchen,
I'm fine with that, but don't show me a fake
front house.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
In this garden that is apparently down the street from
your garden.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yet you're talking about the hill to how beautiful the.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Let's talk about some of her guests. I thought, I
think makeup artist was fine, but he didn't know what
the hell he was doing, and.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Like all her friends.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's the other thing is it's too many people coming
on camera to tell Meghan how wonderful she is. Megan,
you're so chic, you tr so well. I can't believe
you sent me jam It was the most glamorous moment
of my life. Look at how your dress. Look at
this table. Look that's gross. Someone like Martha Stewart again

(23:48):
bringing her up Queen of the form. That woman has
a massive ego. Everybody knows it, but she doesn't make
her guests tell her how wonderful she is. I've never
seen a guest.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Iny case you and understand production. We have been part
of shows so we know how production works. People shoot
a lot more than they actually choose. Number one, so
they know exactly why they picked what they picked to show.
That's number one. Number two is that producers and directors
will tell you what to do, where to stand, and

(24:22):
what to say, what to as Meggie, they they they
they they have these conversations called her Meggie, Oh I'm sorry, sorry,
Oh I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
That my sister's and he always Megan Megan.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Uh So anyway, you know, you go to Megan and say,
you know, you have to ask her that ask her,
that ask about whatever. I mean, that's why they asked
us questions you know that I had. Now my point
is that that's why Mindy I don't believe that it
came out of nowhere. That Mendy was like, oh my god,
it's so funny that you, Megan sussege that you ate,

(24:58):
you know, used to eat at a Jack in a box.
Oh my god, how horrifying, and you know, oh funny,
and then it comes So that's the thing. Her interaction
comes out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It was weirdly tense, it felt passive aggressive, and the
whole time I'm like, why is this on camera? Why
didn't you cut this exchange out? It's not it's not
making either one of them look good.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
It felt like you say, like, do you want sugar
in your coffee? It's funny you call Amy Lorraine Zomark.
You know, it like came out of nowhere. Yeah, it
came out of nowhere. I mean it wasn't there. They
were having a conversation to Sam again.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
This is a production issue. This is an editing issue.
This is someone coming in and saying, let's shoot that again.
It came out off weird, and that's the It's not
about criticizing Megan. If she's nervous on camera, which she was,
then her team should come in and be like, we're
gonna shoot this again, Megan. We need you to loosen up. Megan.
We need a lot more anything. I don't know if

(25:58):
she is exus hurting some sort of like iron fist
over everything, because she is one of the executive producers
and she won't and people can't tell her though. I
have no idea. All I know is the directing is
extremely weak, and most of the problems of the show
are centered around how Megan appears on the show. She

(26:19):
appears tentative, she appears nervous, she appears like she doesn't
know what she's doing. So it's a critique of the show,
but she is the executive producer. And in fact, I
got to say I rolled my eyes so damn hard
when that first credit came up and it said Megan
Duchess obsessive.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
A lot of people had the same And.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I understand that that is her legal name, that is
her official name, but that to me was so obnoxious,
especially in light of no, they did not want to
give up their titles. They never said they wanted to
give up their titles, but they did say they wanted
to give up royal life. And if your credit is
your freaking royal title, that's obnoxious. Little known Jamie Lee

(27:01):
Curtis has a royal tie. She's an aristocrat. She's married
to Christopher Guest, who is Lord Baden Powell. Technically she
is Lady Baden Powell. She has never gone by that
because she knows it would be ridiculous. Americans don't want that.
I know they want that from her. I know her
fans want that from her, but I thought that was just, yeah,

(27:22):
it's sent a terrible, terrible message, And.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Again mixed message as usual. As usual.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
It's like, oh, I'm going to show you my life,
but don't forget that I am absolutely above you in
my station is above you? That No with love, Megan
Duchess of Sussex, like you had to put that in there.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, I mean the exchange and you can tell that.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Mindy right, I'm sorry I went on there.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
You know. She's like, oh, okay, well I like it.
I like it, Okay, I like it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I don't know each other. And they and Mindy admitted
on I think one of them admitted on camera, we're
really just email friends and they only met one time,
so why are you all talking? Fine, but why do
you have to pretend like you are friends? And then
that weird. It's like the staging of the show. She
has people come over, she makes them do things in

(28:10):
the kitchen, which is not a great way to She's
all about I want to make my guests feel special,
and then you have them handling raw fish and I'm like, oh,
that's not how I make my guess, that's not how
I feel special. But and then they all put on
pretty dresses and go out to the fake garden. Right,
this is when it all starts getting too much, like again,
don't mind the kitchen set, the fake kitchen set. But

(28:33):
then you all found dresses and like she and Mindy
went out to this gazebo, no idea where it was
that was all decorated for a children's party, but they
were literally the only people there and who stage this Like, fine,
bring in some kids. You can literally shows have done
that where they get literally kids with sadcards to just
come in and run around for the party. Listen the

(28:55):
other part that it's towards the end. I mean, you
guys know that I love to wrap things, so that
that's one thing that I and I go on you
I learned a lot from my mother. My mother is
amazing domestic goddess.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
She does a phenomenal job, and I learned a lot
from her in terms of gift rapping. But I also
go on YouTube and I get, you know, ideas from
people and how to fold the paper and all that.
So she comes and says, well, when I was auditioning,
I taught taught not too taught gift wrapping lessons. I'm like,

(29:31):
oh awesome. So I sat up and I was like,
all right, I want to watch this. This is my thing.
It was so basic.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh flowers, God, she sticks flowers on every you.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Wrap the gift, put a brow on it, and then
stuck a flying on it.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
And I'm like, she made donuts and sprinkled flowers on them,
and that's wa wait what that's what I mean. I mean,
it's nothing against her personally, but it's like your show,
it's teaching mean nothing, Like I said, the people who
love Megan, her fan base, they just want to watch
her do things. And if it's basic things and whatever, fine,

(30:10):
and they'll they'll copy her Shark hooterie, board techniques and
all of that is fun. The rainbow but I don't
oh yeah, the rainbow fruit thing. I don't think she
put the pretzels. She took the pretzels out of one
bag and put them in a different bag.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But now they now they have a tech you know,
warning children that that's peanut.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh right, that's there. They came out of a bag
that said that they were peanut filled pretzels. It's and
it was from Trader Joe's. So I wasn't impressed, and
I had to laugh. Every bow she ties bows on everything.
Guess what color they are? Every bow beige oh, I
didn't beige bows buy Megan. That is it in a nutshell.
Everything's tentative, everything's neutral, everything's basic. And this sounds like

(30:53):
a complaint about her, and some of it is because,
like I said, she's the executive producer, but so much
of this is just coming down to poor directorial decisions.
And if they ever do get a quote third scare
quote season, they are doing it second season, but it's
a bullshit second season. Netflix shot all of this and

(31:14):
they just split it up, so there are more episodes coming. General,
it's going to be the same thing. There's no right nothing.
So if they do get a third season, which doesn't
seem likely, but if they do, my advice because I'm
sure Megan's team is hanging on to everything I said, well,
especially after what you said. My name, I'm the waiter. Yeah,

(31:37):
but yeah, I think her team needs to look at
getting her a little more training, getting her to loosen
up a little bit more on camera. It would be
very good for people to see her fuck up on
camera and then laugh it off and then have a
little discuss. I mean, Julie's child did it all the time,
dropped eggs on the floor, pick them up and said that,

(31:58):
you know is no one's in the kitchen and they
can't see it.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
People love that stuff, right.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I know her fans want her to be perfect, her
perfect beige Montecito lifestyle, but shows like this don't work
if the person doesn't know what they're doing, doesn't acknowledge
that they don't want to know what they're doing, and
are timid on camera all the time.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I was, I couldn't stop looking at the whole thing
in general, Like her friends come in the kitchen and
they have more jewelry, they have more bracelet, all the
hair into the food and everything, and I get that.
Who comes into a kitchen like that? I mean, you
have all these rings, and you have.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
All these breaks landling raw food, I know.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And you're just wearing Oscar Larenta and Dosha Kabana dresses.
And I'm like, what that which.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Would be funny? I mean, it would be campy and funny.
I'm gonna say something you wouldn't say this on the mic,
but I'm going to repeat what you said last night.
She's just He's like, all we're doing is watching all
these skinny, rich bitches who don't know how to hold
a knife. And that's basically it.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, I mean what, that's the thing. I tried very
much to focus on the show and then okay, I'm
going to focus on the show here and see what
the show is offering me, and I got nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, I don't pick it well done at all. Once again,
I think Carry and Megan just don't surround themselves with
the best people, or what's more likely to me is
that they don't surround themselves with people who are free
right to say no to Like, I think they have
a lot of yes people around them, but that's celebrities
in general, it is. But obviously people aren't advising them.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, no, I think that it's a combination and I
said that before. I think it's a combination of nobody
say no to them, but that's typical of celebrities in general.
But also they're very naive about how they come across,
how they come across and yeah, what people were expecting
of that. I think they're very naive about the whole thing,
both of them, not just her. But it's just like,

(33:52):
all right, I got nothing, and everything is too pretty.
I mean I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I don't mind that everything's pretty. These shows are fine.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Which is fine, but give me something, something more more
than just pretty.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
She's too focused on the aesthetics.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'm looking at utensils and and and and cookware that
it was never used before. That's fine, but.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Give me, I mean give something like those flowers on everything,
because it's not about teaching you how to cook. It's
just all right, we should wrap this up or just.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
For saying, but I had to left. Like at one point,
she opens the fridge to get the fish, and the
only thing inside.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's a free Fish's true. It's always like Lorenza. It's
like that on every clicking.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
They shouldn't even put more stuff in my fride.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
It's a fake kitchen. No, what I think is dumb
is a fake fishe to go with the fake When
she made the kitchen Mason Jark cocktails, and it was
a different one for each of her girlfriends that was coming,
she had a different one for and then she put
labels on each one, and then she screwed the lids
on because I'm watching her make these and I'm like,
nobody's there. You're making cocktails, but none of the guests

(34:55):
are there. And then she opened the drawer of her
of the freezer and gingerly place them in there and
gently close the door so they wouldn't tip over. And
I'm just like, nobody does this. Nobody entertains this way
where they pour the cocktails before the guests have even
arrived and then put the poured cocktails in the freezer. Again,
you're not only giving not giving good advice, you're actively

(35:18):
giving bad advice. Like nobody does that, and that wouldn't
be practical for almost anybody entertaining. So what's the point
in that.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
So if the point is to just look at you
basically it is, then yeah, mission accomplished.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
But I don't think it's gonna Yeah. So all right,
that was a lot and I look forward to your
hatred and the many Reddit threads that are going to
be written the weeks to come. Okay, we're going to
take a short break. We're going to come back and
do a couple real quick rips on Severance and the
White Lotus because frankly, it ain't nothing happening in either

(35:52):
one of those shows. We'll be right back. We're back,
and we just ranted about Omegan Dutches a Sussex and
now we're going to move on to less World with
Love Megan Megan Severance. Okay, so I think it's actually
kind of funny because the online consensus to this was

(36:14):
that it was the worst episode of the season and
waste of time, and now people are questioning whether people
whether the writers really know what they're doing. And I
have to laugh because I was like, where the hell
have you all?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Ben?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I said this four episodes ago, and actually, ironically I
liked this episode. It's it's the episode I don't even
know what the title is. It's the one where Miss
Cobell goes to Saltnec we find out is her hometown
and reconnects with her aunt, played by the legendary Jane Alexander.

(36:44):
I just gasped out that showed her. I was like,
oh my god, and I just thought it was interesting.
I think I understand the frustration that the story isn't progressing,
Like Mark had his reintegration and then had a stroke
and we are now two episodes past that and we
still don't really know the outcome of that. There's a

(37:07):
lot about the show that is very disjointed in its storytelling,
and I haven't heard the creative team behind the show
say that that is a deliberate, like we're literally severing
the stories so that there it's almost the experience of
being severed, so you know, things are happened, like the

(37:28):
timeline is being weirdly stretched or compressed, and it feels
like things aren't happening. And I get that, I truly do.
I get that frustration and I share it. But I
actually really enjoyed this episode, maybe because it was just
full of great actors just acting their faces off. Because
it was also James I don't know if his name
is pronounced le gross or le Gros, who's been a

(37:52):
character actor since the nineties. I had a big crush
on him. He's hot, he's good looking as an old
man looking so cute years ago. And he and Patricia
Arcat are old friends. They've known each other, so that
comes through in their scenes. Very much comes through in
their scenes. And of course Jane Alexander. So I just

(38:16):
wanted to watch those three actors. Cinematography, the and the
it was just beautiful, I mean, dark and depressing, but gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
I watched so many Scannavian shows and so yeah, see
and always dark and blue cinematography. I'm I actually love it. Yeah,
because that's that's when I sit back and I just
enjoy that darkness and that you know, depression and that
bluish and grayish cinematography. So I loved it, and of
course I worship but you sure, I think she's Yeah,

(38:46):
I think she's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
She's so great in such a weird role, but she's
so good in it.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
So I was like, I love Gemma's episode, you know, soeah,
I think I was like, oh, I'm ready for this one,
But you didn't like it. I thought it was I
liked it, but I didn't love it. I thought it
was very, very slow.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
That I'll give you it was. It was the driving, It.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Was the type of information that could have been given
in five minutes. I agree with that, but they decided
to do it in the whole episode.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I also think that again, I think it's a deliberate
choice to sort of sever these storylines and keep them
apart from each other. However, everything that happened in that
episode all season long, I've been wondering, where's just your head?
Using her all season long? They could have just done
five minutes on that character and following her progression, because

(39:37):
only a couple of days have passed, so they could
have checked in Hunter and all of this information could
have been divided up over and the pacing would have
been a little bit easier to take. I agree, well,
for whatever reason, the show is doing very deliberate pacing
and keeping everybody apart. I don't know if that's going
to work to the show's benefit, but it's it's clear

(40:00):
nearly a deliberate choice on their party. It's very much
a deliberate choice. So I get if people struggled with
this episode. I the one critique that I I'm like, yeah,
I feel you on this one. A lot of people
were like, this is making me think they don't know
what they're doing. Because I have to admit the revelation
that miss Kobell created the severance thing's as soon as

(40:25):
that came out. Because I didn't watch it with you,
I watched it on my computer. I sat under my breath.
I was like, oh, bullshit. Not that I don't believe,
I mean the story setting it up, but if you
look at last season, I really don't think it was
in the writing that that woman was the one secretly
the one who created this world changing. I'm like, it's
an interesting twist I don't have a problem with it,

(40:46):
but I really think you added that on and that
is not a crime. Most writers do not know every
single detail of how a story is going to end
before they end it, so it's fine if they add
twists and turns along the way. Way. This one is interesting.
I want to see where it goes, but it does.

(41:06):
It does feel a little left field to me, and
I'm hoping we don't get too many of these. Oh
everything you thought you knew was wrong finally happened.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Two episodes left, right.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I know, but there's gonna be more seat. I think
there's they're planning five seasons, so.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I've got really wow, I don't know. So it was.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I enjoyed the episode, but no, it doesn't answer the
questions that you want it to answer, right.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I enjoyed it because these people were phenomenal. They're phenomenal,
They're phenomena. All the actors involved, they're phenomenal, so you
want to watch them. And I like that kind of cinematography.
Like I said, I watched a lot of skin and
even shoes, So I'm I'm fine with you know a
lot of snow and right, you know, very dark things.
That's fine, you know, low lighting and all that. That
doesn't bother me. I actually enjoy it. But he was like, Okay,

(41:53):
get in the car.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, I agree. I mean the pacing is off.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Let's go. Let's go where you want to go.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
And you know, I know there were a lot of
Easter eggs, especially in her aunt Sissi's bedroom. There was
a lot of weird care stuff in that room if
you looked, if you really looked at the background, and
I was a little fascinated by it because I thought
it's interesting in an old woman's bedroom in this setting,
you would expect a lot of religious iconography, but there isn't.

(42:21):
There's none. It's all this weird cult stuff. But I
will say that I none of that interests me. I
know that there's probably mysteries here that I should try
and unpack, but I'm like whatever, I'll go to writ
it and read about it later. But I that's fine
as background seasoning, but I'm not going to sit there
and try and figure out because i think, like the

(42:42):
puppets that were in the background were the four tempers
of cure whatever whatever that is such dorma initiative type stuff,
and I'm just I'm tapped out.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
And did she find like a yearbook or something that
there were pictures of her with other people when.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Well, yeah, because she was part of the Kere Winter
trainee program that Miss Wang is in.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh, I'm sure there. You know, people can freeze out
emission and find more details about it. Yeah, it's it's
I enjoyed it, but it was like I enjoyed it
for the act. It's just too too long to get
to that point that Okay, you created the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, yeah, we'll say it's not going to be my
favorite episode of the show or the season. But I
wasn't mad at it because I think I've already sort
of been dealing with the issues that people started noticing
this time around, that they are sort of making up
as they go along, and yes, there is a chance
they are going to go up their own ass, and yes,

(43:39):
the pacing is definitely weird.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I was actually surprised with the reaction. I have to
say I was too Actually, I was like, oh, wow,
people are finally well, but they all want they want
any answer, you know, they want every I dotted and
every tea cross.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
And that's the part where I'm like, yeah, I am
so not interested in that sort of your wing experience.
I'm just not all right, you want to move on
to the white lotus?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yes, yes, I just feel like back to just one
more point about seven?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yes, yes, except now, okay, is that.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I think he's going to get a lot darker because
clearly they were kids, right, those two were kids when
they started like.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Child labor, Yeah, shopping ether.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh, I think they're dark. Shit. I think there's going
to be more dark stuff and I yeah, we'll see
how how I deal.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
With one of the goofy or online theories that I
saw and I was like, God, it's possible the show
was going in this direction. Is that miss Hwang, the
young girl who works is the baby that Gemma thought
she miscarried?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Oh dear God.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
But I'm like, okay, that doesn't work with the timeline,
and then we get into weird sci fi what are
we aging her up or something? And also the only
reason you're saying this is because they're the only two
Asian actress in the show, so you're trying to make
them I really hope I got to say, and I
didn't mention this last week with Gemma. I really hope
this doesn't become about women having babies because Lost became

(45:07):
about that, right, And so many of these dystopian science
shows wind up going in that direction and it's so old, like, right,
are we really going to make this about uteruses? Because
do we have to do this again? I'll hate that.
If that's where they're going. I don't think it's where
they're going. Go all right, are we done with that?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah? I think so.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I don't have anything to say about the White Lotus.
Uh it was okay, Like again, same with Severance. I
don't mind watching any of these actors, but wow, nothing's happening.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh give this to you. I'll say this about the
show and about Mike White, is that I keep watching it.
I watched every episode, I watched two three times. What
it is that I'm drawn into it now? I just
watch it. I find it interesting. I guess. I think I.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Haven't watched any of the episodes.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I think the reason why people watch the show, and
because I watch it many times, it's location.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
And it's and everyone's good looking, almost everyone is.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I think it's the fact that they're in this beautiful place,
beautiful hotel, beautiful country, different country, different location. I think
that's what I'm fascinating now. But it's the same. It's
just slow and slow and slow, and people move very
slow and we get.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
We all know where the story's going, right, So all
of this just feels like a huge like, all right,
we're just spinning our wheels. And it is how many
four episodes of Jason Isaac's on a phone? Four episodes
of that?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well we saw his penis, and we saw his.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Penis because has to constantly show, which I'm complaining, But
all right, is anything going to happen to any of
these characters because so far it's all set up and
we are four hours into this. You know, I didn't

(47:03):
think the water pistols, seeing the water gun scene with
the women, it went on too long. It was never explained.
I had to go online and find out it's something.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, that's something they do. And I think I think
never explained. I think it goes. I think I think
it's when directors and creators do something and they they
think they achieved it, but they didn't. I think it
was the whole thing about white people annoyed would would
coach that they get it, that they come they exploit,

(47:32):
you know, the local people, the local traditions and and
but but they they don't embrace it. They get annoyed
by it. And I think that's that's the message that
the ladd to long, that the lasers were annoyed and
that wasn't part of their idea of fun or having
a good time. I got all that, but it goes
too fast and you don't really get the message there
now so and it goes on for too long and

(47:56):
boat ride and they also a boat ride from now long?
Is this gonna It's the same scene over and over
and over again. And the first question I had in
my head was like, oh is that tiny? Both is
it ton? No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I'm wondering that.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
TikTok already established that it's a much bigger boat.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Thought it was.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
But okay, so it's a different boat and I'm like, wow,
that's that's that boat. It's too big for him. I mean,
how much money do you have? And then something like
million yeah, So I was like, all right, okay, but
still it's a huge boat.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
It is a big, big boat. But I did not
think that scene was fun or entertaining to watch, because
it was I don't know, it was just repetitive and everything.
It feels like every scene is about a minute too long.
That's what it feels like. It's like, boy, someone should
have tightened up the editing on all of this because
every interaction seems to go on too long. I feel

(48:48):
like we know all of these characters now because you
you've set them up, so like, can we please start
moving wherever this is going? Gaytalk lost the gun, which
I didn't love this development just from a purely from
an audience perspective. You've lost You've lost me, Gay Talk,
like you've lost me. I was rooting for you. And

(49:10):
now when he did, when that happened, I was when
he walked away from that, I was like, he's an idiot.
Now I'm sorry, but he was this cute, love struck
guy and now he's like a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
But they all think. Everybody thinks the father took the gun.
Who knows, maybe somebody else got the gun. There's some
misdirection gun maybe so I don't know, Yeah, maybe Greg
got the gun. You don't know, because now they're saying
that Greg wants to kill the sun or I mean
Belinda or her son. I don't know why he would
want to kill her son anyway. He was on her
Instagram account and looking at pictures now anyway. But it's

(49:41):
very yeah, very vague.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
And who else uh oh, Walton Goggins. He's actually doing
good work. I think the two of them, the girl
who put Amy little Wood, Yeah, I think they're really
good together. I do think their scenes are very repetitive,
like everybody's because it's him being emotionally beholding and her
being babe, let me in over and over and over again. However,

(50:03):
got a little bit of movement on that. He told
her why he was going to Bangkok, and the first
thing I said was, well, that guy's not the guy
who killed his father. That guy is his father, like joy?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Is he lying or he doesn't know that, that doesn't
know Oh okay, he doesn't know that.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
But I mean from a story perspective, the first thing
I thought, he's going to get there, especially since I'm
not going to spoil the actor who plays this guy.
But you did see a picture of him when the
when the woman who owns the hotel showed a picture
of her husband. And he's a very famous actor who
is old enough to be waltng Again's father and actually
looks like Walton Gott so.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
He probably gonna go there to kill him and finds
out that he's the father.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
We'll see. I don't know. I could very easily be wrong,
but if I'm right on this, I think they they
signposted it too early. But we'll see who else. Patrick Schwarzenegger,
I just want to say one thing about that. I
know he's really annoying, but you got to notice you
said I think he's annoying, going on and on an
about the character goes, I'm not about that stupid blender

(51:02):
and the protein shakes, and did you got to do
the protein shakes? And you said, he's not even that jacked, right,
But actually I think that might be the point because
the other thing that you want to point I want
to point out here is he hasn't gotten laid right.
For all his starting around, he has yet to get
laid in this resort.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
So do you think what that he's gay or no?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I think he's just a poser. I think the point
is that he's not what he thinks he is. He's
not the stud that he thinks he is. He's not
the muscle dude that he thinks he is.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Now everyone he's saying that, you know, Mike White doesn't
introduce something without actually having a purpose, like the fruit
that he picked up for off. You know, yeah that you.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Know it's gonna wind up in the blender.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, people were saying, well, maybe he's gonna get poisoned
and that they're gonna put that thing in his blender.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I mean, didn't we start the season off with gunfire?
Do we need to do a poison plot on top
of it. I really, I'm really not the person for
this show. I can tell that. I'm right.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm actually I have to say it was kind of
clever to start with that scene, the shooting, because that's
all I think about.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Well, he does that every year. Yeah, but every season
starts with the dead body.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
But it's a little more than just finding one body,
right or whatever. I mean, it's a bunch of people
dead or running away from them, you know, the shoot
or whatever, and I'm wondering, who's what, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah, Chekhov's gun. It's it's almost literally Chekhov's gun. Still
think it's the monkeys, though, do you think that? I
hope it's not the monkeys, but I do think they're
they're they're there's a lot of hints that it's the
monkeys it that way.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Oh wow, that would be silly.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
How many times are they showing monkey statues or just
monkeys in the tree, But that would be silly. I agree,
it would be silly. But I I don't think this
season is great. I just don't think it's great. I
didn't think last season was great, and I will admit
that I in the end, I was probably wrong about
that because it I was very bored with it, but
it did actually wrap up well. So I'm holding on

(52:59):
to this because because I think that is basically I'm
Mike white John is that you have to suffer throw
a lot of setup, but then it wraps up well,
which is sort of like the opposite of Ryan Murphy
who was all set up and then completely screws up
the ending. So we'll see. That's all I have to
say about that.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, I feel bad for Belinda again. You know, I
feel like.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I think she's getting her happy ending at some.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Point, I hope, so because it feels like, all right,
you keep bringing this.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
This, they're not going to going to you know, because
you want to give.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Her a little more. But then you know, I don't know,
she's still misused a thing as as an actor.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
We'll see. I I just admit I'm I'm not really
into it. I'm going to finish it out. I don't
hate it, but I don't. I don't think it's all
that interesting and I never did bottom I.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Like I said, I I watch it again and again
because A I see beautiful scenes and yeah, so that's
why I'm.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Fascinating the three guys, right, do you think they're the
ones that robbed probably jewelry, no doubt, no doubt. I
think they're his friends robbed the jewelry store, and they're
gonna screw them up somehow. I mean, I hope those
ladies aren't danger. And I have to say real quick.
I don't know who said it on social media, but
someone pointed out that Michelle Monahan is doing Jennifer Aniston

(54:17):
and once you see it, you cannot you cannot say it.
She is very clearly doing a Jennifer Aniston and it's
actually pretty funny. Once you realize it, you're like, oh, yeah,
that's now.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
They're saying that Chelsea, Chelsea the character like the neck
not the necklace, the bracelet, the bracelet the snake bracelet
lot or whatever, and they and the and the robbers
took that. So they're wondering if that's somebody's going to
show up.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
TikTok no people, your little friends on TikTok oh.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Okay, So when I come up with the theory, then
you're a little wrong. Anyway, Well, I admitted that I
think my theories are wrong, just letting you know what's
out there there. Because she kept looking at the bracelet,
and then they they at the last it they're looking around,
then they take the bracelet. So maybe what does that mean?
Maybe somebody will show up with the bracelet and they'll
figure out that's that's the rubber or whatever. Anyway, some

(55:09):
some I still think the girlfriend is a little you.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Know, Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Oh, is that her name? Charlotte?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
No, No, that's the actress's name, isn't it Charlotte Lebone. I
don't she doesn't seem to know about Greg's ex wife
or true.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I thought she was a con artist, and now I'm like,
I don't know what she Maybe she's just she's the
next victim. Oh could be, could be we'll see. That's that,
But I'll keep watching of course I'll finish it out.
I'm not trashing this season. I just I'm not feeling
it the way other people seem to feel this show.
That's all.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
No, but there's a lot of criticism too. I mean,
people will watch it and enjoy it. I guess they
enjoyed for the reason that I enjoy it, because it's
it's pretty to look at, but it's kind of giving
us the same you know, same white people, the same,
same confused and troubled white people. It is.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yep, all right, I think that's it. Alrighty, thank you
once again for listening everyone. We'll be back next week
with whatever crosss our eyes or crosses our desks until
they don't take care of yourselves. Love you mean it.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Bye bye,