March 4, 2025 • 28 mins
In a world where music often serves as a bridge between generations, Cousins Gibb share their poignant story of family, heritage, and creativity.
Join Nick Endicott Gibb and Deborah McLean as they take us on an emotional journey, revealing how their familial ties have influenced their musical path. This episode dives deep into Nick's incredible discovery of his identity as the son of Maurice Gibb, enriching his connection to music and family.
Listeners will hear about the challenges both artists faced, from personal health struggles to navigating the complexities of distant collaboration.
Yet, through it all, they’ve managed to create beautiful music that pays homage to their family's legacy.
Their unique rendition of the Bee Gees' iconic "Tragedy" has captivated listeners, showcasing how music can transform and evoke deep emotions.
As they discuss their future aspirations, Nick and Deborah reveal their commitment to evolving as artists, blending styles, and exploring new sounds.
This engaging conversation serves as an inspiring reminder of the power of family, resilience, and artistic collaboration.
Don’t miss this chance to connect with the Gibb legacy.
Follow them on social media, listen to their heartfelt music, and be part of their journey as they continue to embrace their heritage and create unforgettable experiences through their art.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Hi, I'm Tony Mantour.
Welcome to Almost LiveNashville.
Joining us today are twomembers of the renowned Gibb
family who have formed a duocalled Cousins Gibb, comprising
Nick Endicott Gibb, son ofMaurice Gibb, and Deborah McLean
(01:20):
, daughter of the Bee Gees'older sister, leslie.
Today they share a captivatingstory of their journey.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Yeah, of course, yeah, great tosee you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yes, same here.
Can you tell us how you met?
Your history is prettyfascinating.
We haven't actually met, havewe.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
We haven't met physically.
But yeah, nick, kick off.
You kick off because it is yourstory as well, and that's how
it all happened.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, we connected through your mum, leslie, didn't
we, when she reached out andshe heard about my story and it
was basically a good idea fordebbie and I to connect and see
if we can do something together.
So we got together about three,or is it four, probably four
years ago, is it it started four?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
yeah, four yeah, a lot of similarities between the
two of us.
We had similar health issues,but we're both musically, we
were doing things musically.
So, yeah, that's why mum saidto me you need to talk to Nick.
There's just so much you twohave in common, yeah, and she
and she said to me, when youtalked to him, she said you hear
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, morris, there's no doubt,there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now you're living in Australia, correct?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Have you been down there a long time?
If you have, do you get achance to see family much?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, we see, the last time we physically saw family
was when Barry came out with themythology tour and the family
came out then.
Outside of that it's just theodd phone call.
So mum gets most of the callsand we all just communicate via
that way.
And then there's messenger yeah, facebook, usual stuff.
We all connect that way, likewe're all still connected.
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But the actual physical visityeah, mythology to her.
Back then mum was very unwelland I'd actually stopped work to
look after her.
That's why when you see photosshe's in a wheelchair completely
different.
Now she's absolutely amazingand in very good health that's
great to hear.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
For sure, nick.
You found out later in lifethat Maurice was your father,
correct?
Yeah, how did you find out?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'd always wanted to know where I came from because I
was always musical through mylife and my family that adopted
me weren't musical.
From the age of six, I wassinging, writing songs when I
was 10, taught myself guitar anddrums and led on from there all
through my life with bands andrecording and performing.
And, yeah, I wanted to know.
So it wasn't easy to find out.
Really.
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You had to go through all thesechannels of filling in forms
and sending them off and waitingweeks and weeks for an answer
and I didn't really fancy that.
Although through my life it wasin my 20s I started to look and
then thought this is a lot ofhassle, I'd like to know.
At that point it wasn't reallythat important to me because I
had a lovely family and it wasnice the time to know I was
thinking of why I'm creative,where it comes from curiosities.
(04:11):
And then later on, as you getolder, you start to want to know
about your health because I'vegot no medical history up to the
age of five.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, that's totally understandable.
After all you went through.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
then you finally found out what emotions went
through your mind when you foundout that you were part of the
Brothers Gibb family.
It was really more of a case of.
That makes sense in a way to me, because I always thought that
my music comes from somewhere.
And to find out then my birthfather is Morris Gitt ticked a
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lot of boxes for me that I knewmyself through my life, that it
just made sense that I came fromsomeone who was very musical
and very talented, very creative.
So I was very pleased that itmade sense to me.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Sure, that makes sense.
Now, what did you think whenyour mother told you that it
looks like you've got a cousinyou need to meet?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Thrilled.
Yeah, we were all thrilled tobits, yeah.
And then when we were seeingphotos of Nick, there was no
doubt, absolutely no doubt.
And then when I first spoke toNick for the very first time,
even down to the giggle that hehas it's, it's Morris giggle,
that's a giggle you'll neverforget.
It's a, really.
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And even a couple of mybrothers had the same giggle and
some of his traits carry, likethe things he does when he's
talking.
I see it in my brothers and Iknow it was mum's brothers as
well.
Like that, it's a family thing.
Yes, you could see it and youget goosebumps.
Yeah, like that.
First time I was like no, isthis happening?
This is so real.
Yeah, when Nick popped up, wewere like God, how many more are
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there?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I'm sure there's more out there.
It's amazing you bring that up.
I produced another singerthat's Bobby Wilson, jackie
Wilson's son.
He found out later in life thathe was Jackie's son.
Okay Now, did you have anyissues with family accepting you
for being Maurice's son?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really, it's only Leslie and Debbie, her family
and some cousins in Manchesterthat have accepted the situation
and have embraced the situationand haven't heard from anyone
else.
It'd be nice to hear hi.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You haven't heard, but they've gone and done some
DNA testing themselves and,hello, you've popped up as a
relation.
So I think their questions orcuriosity has been answered.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Good good.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But, as with every family, sometimes it is hard to
accept.
You've just got to let them doit in their own time.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, that's absolutely true.
Now you both find you have acousin.
You both have a passion formusic, come from a musical
family.
How did the Cousins Gibb startto happen?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It really started and once we connected, I thought
it'd be lovely if we could dosomething together which could
be like a homage to the family.
Yeah, cover one of the BG songsand do something like that
together.
So I had this idea of coveringone of the songs but doing it in
a completely different way.
Yeah, great idea.
Yeah, we did a version ofTragedy, but we slowed it down.
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It's more of a ballad, it'smore heartfelt, the lyrics are
just amazing.
I've always thought that, anyway, that would be great to bring
those lyrics out, just do it acompletely different way.
And it works so well.
And singing together for thefirst time as well.
We haven't actually sungtogether, but we work remotely,
being in australia and the uk.
It's quite easy to do that nowis to just send files over and
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that sort of thing.
So Debbie would record it overthere and send me her stems, I'd
carry on mixing here, I'drecord here.
So it's back and forth withthat and it came together really
nicely.
And for me, one big thing thatI've always wanted, or always
wondered what it was like to do,was to be able to sing with a
family member.
I see all these families,brothers and sisters, and
through the decades, you canhear something magical.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's the blend.
It's the blend.
Growing up, I've got a twin andwhen we were born there was a
bit of fuss because it wasanother set of twins in the
family.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Following on from Robin and Morris, and we're
non-identical as well.
So she's 4'10".
She's a good foot shorter thanme and darker skin.
We're very similar in looks,that's about it.
But singing we blend and whenwe sing, no one knew who was
singing what.
Yeah, because we'd split theharmonies and go that way and no
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one could ever pick up.
Even during school days andfurther on from that, nobody
knew who was singing what part,because our voices blended.
We just like one voice.
You can't describe it.
Yeah, we got older, she lostinterest in singing and that was
like I felt, like half of mewas lost yeah yeah, so I know
what Nick's saying.
Yeah, and then when we sangtogether and we blended, it was
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like, ah, there it is, yeah, soyeah, and the blend is really
good.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I've listened to it and you really do blend well
together on it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There's been moments in the mixing where I've
listened to it and you really doblend well together on it.
There's been moments in themixing where I've literally had
to isolate the vocals because Icouldn't tell which one I was
working on.
Wait a minute, that's meant tobe me.
No, it is me.
Yes, it is me.
Yeah.
Just the times we blend so welltogether, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, that's awesome.
It's always great to have goodharmonies.
So how many songs have youreleased now?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We've got three out now, Two original and the debut
cover and we've been working onvarious ideas for quite a while.
But I've been very busy in thestudio and various other
projects.
Debbie's been very busy as well.
Getting that time together tocome together and get working
again's been a while since we'vebeen really working properly
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because of other projects Itotally get that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Unfortunately, if you don't get to it, it never gets
done.
Sometimes you just gotta set atime and say we're gonna get
this done.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Sometimes there's just no other way yeah, exactly,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, butthere's been things bumping
along, yeah, and last year aswell.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, Last year as well, it was me that was holding
everything up.
I had pneumonia at thebeginning of the year.
Got over that, got COVID.
That knocked me out for nearlythree months.
Following from COVID, I got aheart condition and I didn't get
over that until November.
So I was up and down all year.
Health-wise, I've been giventhe all clear, hence why I'm
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really looking after my healthand going walking and everything
and working.
Now, yeah, it was just, it wasalways me holding him because
Nick was like how are you going?
And I'm like I'm not good, I'mnot good, I'm not recordable at
the moment.
And you could tell I wastalking through my nose and yeah
.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's okay, I've been getting ideas together.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, that's great.
Well, you know, health isalways number one.
If that's not good, nothing is.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's nothing Correct yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now that everything is good, you're good.
Everything seems to be pickingup for you.
I think you're planning onworking on new songs, correct?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Working on it now yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
we're on a track at the moment which is, again,
we're trying to do something alittle bit different every time.
This one's going to be reallydifferent.
It's special on this one, soreally looking forward to
getting this one out there.
Deb's working on some vocals atthe moment and I'm finishing
off some, a few instrumentalparts.
Hopefully, by the spring it'sgoing to be we'll be producing.
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That's the idea, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, that's great.
Now, when are you planning ongetting together in person so
that you can do studio worktogether rather than back and
forth over tracks?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, what do you Deb ?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I know it's either me go to the UK.
I would rather come to the UK,but we've been debating this.
Nick wants to come to Australia.
Okay, so we have spiders andsnakes.
You don't want to come here?
I'll come to the UK.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
I've got friends of mine downin Australia that says, come on
down.
I tell them I'm in the deepsouth now, I've got enough
snakes right here, I don't needto go down there and see them.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
We're not too bad.
We're not too bad.
They're there, but you'd haveto be really silly to get bitten
by a snake.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So how long is the flight from Australia to the UK?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's about 24, I think Don't quote me on that
it's a very long haul flightyeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Really.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, maybe sometime you'll get there, I'm sure, so
that way you guys can worktogether.
So what?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
are you currently doing now?
I'm currently working with thebest of the BG show in Australia
.
They invited me on to doImmortality, and that was as a
guest for their 25th anniversarya year ago.
Colin Immortality and that wasas a guest for their 25th
anniversary a year ago.
Colin Peterson, the originalBG's drummer, was actually
working with them and touringand telling his story.
Colin passed away last year sothey've asked me to do more
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shows this year, so there'sabout 20 shows.
And then they said wouldn'tNick come to Australia?
I said, would we go to the UK?
And they're going.
Let's think about that.
So who knows?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, no, that would be really good.
Yeah, that's a paid trip to getto Australia for you.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
That would be nice for the both of you correct,
we're doing New Zealand andthere are other places I can't
mention yet because it hasn'tbeen released.
But yeah, all over Australia,yes, and I just go in and do
immortality brilliant show,absolutely brilliant.
So yeah, I think singing livewith Debbie would be.
And I just go in and doimmortality Brilliant show,
absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So yeah, I think singing live with Debbie would
be a fantastic experience.
Both of us in the flesh singingtogether yeah, that would be
awesome really.
That would be an amazingexperience.
Like I say, it's something I'vealways wished I'd had.
In my life I've found bloodrelatives I could do that with.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, it's always nice to have that connection
with another person or people,because the music is just that
good, the harmonies, the singingis all that good.
I've heard your product.
You guys sound really goodtogether, so that would be a
fantastic opportunity for you toget something out there and
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show your talents just natural.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I know when I yeah, when I'm singing on the tracks I
can actually or when I'mputting harmonies down without
even hearing Nick, I hear Nickwhere Nick would be positioned
within the song, and then I workthrough my harmonies and I send
it back to Nick.
And we debated a few times onone song.
I threw in that many harmoniesI don't know how many I did and
Nick goes it back to Nick.
And we debated a few times onone song.
I threw in that many harmoniesI don't know how many I did and
Nick goes it's way too heavy.
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I said, just drop them all in.
I hear it, I hear it, just dropthem all in.
And then he went aha, aha, Ihear it now.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Layers, lots of layers.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
The layers yeah, but the layers, yeah, but I could
also hear Nick in there, yes, Ithink.
Yeah, we're really very much onthe same page.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, and that's something that I've always loved
doing through my life as well.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Always loved singing harmonies, creating harmonies.
I was in a choir when I was sixuntil I was 14, primarily
because I enjoyed singingharmonies with people and, yeah,
always loved that.
Everything I've recorded, I'veput in harmonies and worked on
harmonies.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh yes, harmony is just awesome.
I remember a band I had onetime.
The bass player couldn't singharmonies so I would sing the
lead.
Then when the chorus came, hewould sing the lead, I would
switch to the harmonies.
Singing harmonies is one ofthose things some people have it
and then some people don't.
It just adds another layer tothat sound that you just can't
(15:27):
take away.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, I worked with a band that would do oh, it was a
show, neil Sedaka show WithNeil Sedaka.
He sings against himself.
He always goes one abovehimself throughout the whole
song and I used to be that thehigh Neil Sedaka throughout the
whole show.
Yeah, over 30 years I'd neverwanted to be out front.
I always wanted to be just oneof the backing singers and
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everyone just kept going no, youneed to get out front.
I was forced out front so I'mcomfortable with it.
Yeah, I just never wanted to bethere because the pressure of
how you look, what you'rewearing, everything it all
changes when you're out frontand then you've got to entertain
.
You're not hidden behind themic.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, that's true, but nowadays it doesn't seem to
really matter much.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, but it's just been completely.
A wise man once told me pretendyou're in your own living room
singing with your friends andjust connect that way.
And that's how I go out onstage.
Even now they say to me are younervous?
I go.
No, I'm actually really excitedto get out there and I'm really
comfortable out there.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Who's it that said, imagine they're all naked?
Didn't someone say that?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, no, I don't do that, that's just too gross.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I've tried to do that and I've just got a bit
uncomfortable, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I always try to find that one person that's getting
into your music and just focuson them.
Their energy can give youenergy.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
That can be dangerous when they sing the wrong words,
because I'm that person in theaudience that will start singing
the wrong words and put thelead off track.
Or I deliberately clap out ofbeat.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I have to wind up, yeah, and they know what I'm
doing too.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The best thing to do is to follow their energy.
Then keep it up and don'tfollow their off beats.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, you don't have to know.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
This is great.
Look at the energy you haveright here.
You really have to get together.
Live the energy would just beawesome.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah yeah, we know it.
But when we started it wasCOVID anyway.
So we were happy being able todo what we were thrilled that we
could do what we were doing andto send files backwards and
forward, because I couldn't getinto a studio.
So I bought the studio and setmyself up.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So during COVID, yeah , COVID changed everything.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Everything changed and Nick guided me through that,
because I've never set up astudio before, so it was what
program to get?
It was training, wasn't it Overthe phone On?
Yeah, how did I know my trip?
Save my tracks, send the file,do this, do that?
Yeah, yeah, a lot happenedbehind the scenes.
I've learned a lot Bottom that.
(18:14):
Yeah, yeah, a lot happenedbehind the scenes I've learned a
lot bottom line.
It worked, yeah, it worked,yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's fabulous, but we'rehaving fun.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, that's the main thing.
Have fun.
Are you planning on doing acomplete album soon?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
oh, good god, I'd love to yeah yeah, I think we're
working on track by track atthe moment.
There's so many songs we've gotideas we've got to work on, I
think track by track, and maybewe'll then put them all together
and release an album.
It's just really good doingsong by song.
We enjoy it, we have fun doingit, and once we've done one
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we've got this other idea.
So it's just a case of gettingin on that and working on that,
yeah, track by track at themoment.
Case of getting then on thatand working on that, yeah, track
by track at a moment.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
But yeah, I think we should release an album and I
think we're both perfectionists.
If we had more than one focusit would get messy, but we just
focus on one song at a time.
It's yeah, and then we pull itto pieces.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Every time we do it and we redo things and strategy
took how long until we werefinally happy yeah, it took
quite a long time because yeah,because I had an idea for an
oboe in it and I was playingaround with native instruments
and other virtual software and Ihad the melodies.
But no, this has got to be,this has got to be a real player
(19:25):
on here.
I want everything to sound,sound perfect.
So I got a friend in who'sgreat on piano and I scored the
strings and did a bit of guitaron it.
But I got the basics of ittogether and the oboe idea
actually came from Eddie Kramer.
Have you ever met Eddieactually?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, I've never met him.
Our paths have never crossed.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He's lovely.
Yeah, he's a lovely guy andsuch a talented producer.
I did a week's productioncourse with him in studio la
fabrique, lovely studio.
What was really good about thatwas he said look, keep in
contact.
Everybody that was there keepin contact.
I'm always here for any adviceor anything.
And I contacted him and said,look, this is what I'm doing.
What do you think?
Because I'd like you to mix itreally if you've got the time.
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And he said I'd love to.
But he said I'll tell you whatit needs something on there
which it needs some core on clayor oboe or something like that
on there.
So I said that's a fantasticidea.
So I was working on that,thinking I could do that, but
after a while it became quiteapparent that this needs to be a
proper player.
Then approached dom kelly, whohe's done all the music for
(20:27):
puero.
I worked on tracks from Madonnaand various other people.
He's an amazing guy and I gavehim the track and he just put
his extra flurries on it.
He followed my melody.
He's this creative professional.
He doesn't just read music orcopy something that's given him.
He's his own take and his owncreativity in there, which was
exactly what it needed, and hejust brought the track alive
(20:49):
with what he did.
Yeah, yeah, it was aculmination of getting things
together and getting eddie onboard and get this track to
sound as good as we could.
So it took a while to gettogether, but I was so pleased
with it once it was all done.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, that's great.
Always nice to finish up aproject.
Now.
What's the feedback been like?
There's a new gib in town, anew duo, cousins Gibb.
What's the feedback you'regetting from the new sound and
what you're doing with your?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
music.
We're getting a lot of goodfeedback, actually because it's
such a heartfelt version.
We've had people crying hearingit and saying it brought me to
tears.
It's quite a powerful reworkingof it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, I've heard it.
It sounds really good.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's amazing how many obviously people haven't heard
it still and don't know of it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy in this day and time.
You can have a viral thing outthere and still people go huh, I
didn't realize that was outthere, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's taken some time to realize, yeah, yeah, it's
taken some time to realise.
Oh, it is that song.
Yes, I think the one word thatreally captured me was the
majority was the song washaunting, hauntingly beautiful.
Yeah, so yeah, and I thoughtthat's nice, and even my mum
said I'm lost for words, it'sjust beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And, of course, bg fans hearing it for the first
time is well, wait a minute.
And to get their head aroundthis completely different
version, because there's been somany covers of Tragedy which
are either very similar to theoriginal or rocked up version
but not done in this way.
So for some fans it's.
You know, I can't get my headaround this because I'm so used
(22:27):
to the song being what it is,but to so many others it's been
such a.
I can't believe that this isbeautiful.
I can't believe it's the samesong.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It is our voices.
Yeah, it's not done or anything.
It is actually us.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, there's no falsetto.
Where's the falsetto?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sorry, the beauty of this.
There is a certain amount ofpeople that are growing up now
that will hear it for the firsttime and not realize what the
original was.
Then they hear yours, go backto hear the original and they're
comparing the original to yours.
So ultimately, you've created anew fan.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, I think when a song's covered and done in a
different way and it's used on afilm or something like that,
then people younger people,watching the film, that's their
first exposure to the song andthat's when they think who is
this?
I love this song.
They check out who it is andthey think that they wrote it or
it's from them.
So it quite often happens, Ithink through sync that's so
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true, did you get any feedbackfrom the family?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Overall, family really liked it.
They loved it, yes.
And then we also heard fromBlue Weaver, who was keyboard
player for Bee Gees.
He was involved with theoriginal recording of Tragedy
and he was just blown away.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's just so good to hear recording of Tragedy and
he was just blown away.
That's just so good to hear.
That's the feather in the cap,the cherry on the top, when
someone that worked on theoriginal hears it and likes it.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah.
I got a lovely message fromBlue and it really touched me.
I couldn't believe.
You know this guy that was onall of the records saying this
lovely message about the song isincredible yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It doesn't get much better than that.
So what are the plans for thefuture?
I think you've got a singlecoming out for spring.
Anything past that?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
yeah, that's the plan , and yeah, there's another one
there's another one.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
There's another one, yeah.
So's another one.
There's another one, yeah.
So we've had a lot ofconversations at the end of last
year about what this year wouldlook like and, yeah, definitely
recording.
So we're just going to do onesong at a time because we are
perfectionists.
I think if he gave me two orthree songs, my mind would be
going one at a time, get thatright and then move on to the
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next and the plan, of course, isas well as to try lots of
different things, doing thingsin different ways, and so we
evolve with it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
We had a chat are we doing this sort of style or do
we keep things to this sort ofgenre?
We both are the same in that wedon't want to do that.
We don't want to really putanything in a box if we feel
like doing something which isgonna be a punk song I don't
know, probably won't but or wedo a ballad, or we do a reggae,
or we do rock.
However, something forms.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
This next one's a bit of a twist, but I'm not going
to say what the twist is.
Yeah, again, it's haunting,it's beautiful.
Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah it's going to be .
Yeah, this one's going to bespecial.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Don't say it.
Don't say it, nick.
How do people find you, how dopeople contact you, how do they
follow your music and yourcareers?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Okay, we're on Bandcamp, we're on Spotify,
we're on Amazon, all theplatforms Apple Music, youtube
Music and, and of course,facebook is our main area to
contact.
Facebook is the main one we useat the moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're outthere.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
We also drop in everything else we're doing.
Like Nick works in a band aswell and he's doing production
stuff, so he'll drop that intoour Facebook as well.
When I'm doing the shows, Ishare that.
There will be video or videoaudio of me singing within the
shows as well.
We're letting them knoweverything else that we're doing
.
We're not just in the studio,so it's good.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, that makes it interesting for people to follow
you.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They can see what you're doing together.
They can see what you're doingseparately and hopefully they
follow you because of whatyou're doing together.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, and a year ago I never thought I'd be working
with the show the Best of theBGs, which is endorsed by the
family as well.
They are amazing.
They've worked all over theworld and now I'm a guest in
their show.
They keep saying I've got topinch myself.
No, I'm pinching myself.
You're actually paying me to dothis Fun song.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
What's the old saying ?
You'll pay me for somethingI'll do for free.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, so correct, yeah, but no, and having a
wonderful time with them.
They're beautiful people, verytalented people.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Well, that's great.
This has been a greatconversation, great stories of
your journey together.
I really appreciate you comingon oh, thank you for having us
hey, anytime tony, anytime it.
Yeah, it's a shame we can't bethere in person with you yeah,
that'd be nice next time you'rein nashville, both of you stop
by yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, noyeah just thank you for wanting
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to talk to us.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I feel very flattered .
Speaker 2 (27:32):
yes, yeah, thanks, tony, and we'll keep you posted
with what we're doing, whatwe're up to, and you'll be one
of the first to know when wefinally meet.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, that'd be great .
Matter of fact, when you dofinally do that, we'll have to
do this on a podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
We'll have to actually record that, won't we?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's a great idea.
We can do a video podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, absolutely yeah , that'd be special.
Thank you so much for having uson.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Thank you, it's been my pleasure.
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Welcome to Almost LiveNashville.
Joining us today are twomembers of the renowned Gibb
family who have formed a duocalled Cousins Gibb, comprising
Nick Endicott Gibb, son ofMaurice Gibb, and Deborah McLean
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, daughter of the Bee Gees'older sister, leslie.
Today they share a captivatingstory of their journey.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Yeah, of course, yeah, great tosee you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yes, same here.
Can you tell us how you met?
Your history is prettyfascinating.
We haven't actually met, havewe.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
We haven't met physically.
But yeah, nick, kick off.
You kick off because it is yourstory as well, and that's how
it all happened.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, we connected through your mum, leslie, didn't
we, when she reached out andshe heard about my story and it
was basically a good idea fordebbie and I to connect and see
if we can do something together.
So we got together about three,or is it four, probably four
years ago, is it it started four?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
yeah, four yeah, a lot of similarities between the
two of us.
We had similar health issues,but we're both musically, we
were doing things musically.
So, yeah, that's why mum saidto me you need to talk to Nick.
There's just so much you twohave in common, yeah, and she
and she said to me, when youtalked to him, she said you hear
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, morris, there's no doubt,there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now you're living in Australia, correct?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Have you been down there a long time?
If you have, do you get achance to see family much?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, we see, the last time we physically saw family
was when Barry came out with themythology tour and the family
came out then.
Outside of that it's just theodd phone call.
So mum gets most of the callsand we all just communicate via
that way.
And then there's messenger yeah, facebook, usual stuff.
We all connect that way, likewe're all still connected.
(03:00):
But the actual physical visityeah, mythology to her.
Back then mum was very unwelland I'd actually stopped work to
look after her.
That's why when you see photosshe's in a wheelchair completely
different.
Now she's absolutely amazingand in very good health that's
great to hear.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
For sure, nick.
You found out later in lifethat Maurice was your father,
correct?
Yeah, how did you find out?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'd always wanted to know where I came from because I
was always musical through mylife and my family that adopted
me weren't musical.
From the age of six, I wassinging, writing songs when I
was 10, taught myself guitar anddrums and led on from there all
through my life with bands andrecording and performing.
And, yeah, I wanted to know.
So it wasn't easy to find out.
Really.
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You had to go through all thesechannels of filling in forms
and sending them off and waitingweeks and weeks for an answer
and I didn't really fancy that.
Although through my life it wasin my 20s I started to look and
then thought this is a lot ofhassle, I'd like to know.
At that point it wasn't reallythat important to me because I
had a lovely family and it wasnice the time to know I was
thinking of why I'm creative,where it comes from curiosities.
(04:11):
And then later on, as you getolder, you start to want to know
about your health because I'vegot no medical history up to the
age of five.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, that's totally understandable.
After all you went through.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
then you finally found out what emotions went
through your mind when you foundout that you were part of the
Brothers Gibb family.
It was really more of a case of.
That makes sense in a way to me, because I always thought that
my music comes from somewhere.
And to find out then my birthfather is Morris Gitt ticked a
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lot of boxes for me that I knewmyself through my life, that it
just made sense that I came fromsomeone who was very musical
and very talented, very creative.
So I was very pleased that itmade sense to me.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Sure, that makes sense.
Now, what did you think whenyour mother told you that it
looks like you've got a cousinyou need to meet?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Thrilled.
Yeah, we were all thrilled tobits, yeah.
And then when we were seeingphotos of Nick, there was no
doubt, absolutely no doubt.
And then when I first spoke toNick for the very first time,
even down to the giggle that hehas it's, it's Morris giggle,
that's a giggle you'll neverforget.
It's a, really.
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And even a couple of mybrothers had the same giggle and
some of his traits carry, likethe things he does when he's
talking.
I see it in my brothers and Iknow it was mum's brothers as
well.
Like that, it's a family thing.
Yes, you could see it and youget goosebumps.
Yeah, like that.
First time I was like no, isthis happening?
This is so real.
Yeah, when Nick popped up, wewere like God, how many more are
(05:54):
there?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I'm sure there's more out there.
It's amazing you bring that up.
I produced another singerthat's Bobby Wilson, jackie
Wilson's son.
He found out later in life thathe was Jackie's son.
Okay Now, did you have anyissues with family accepting you
for being Maurice's son?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really, it's only Leslie and Debbie, her family
and some cousins in Manchesterthat have accepted the situation
and have embraced the situationand haven't heard from anyone
else.
It'd be nice to hear hi.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You haven't heard, but they've gone and done some
DNA testing themselves and,hello, you've popped up as a
relation.
So I think their questions orcuriosity has been answered.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Good good.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But, as with every family, sometimes it is hard to
accept.
You've just got to let them doit in their own time.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, that's absolutely true.
Now you both find you have acousin.
You both have a passion formusic, come from a musical
family.
How did the Cousins Gibb startto happen?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It really started and once we connected, I thought
it'd be lovely if we could dosomething together which could
be like a homage to the family.
Yeah, cover one of the BG songsand do something like that
together.
So I had this idea of coveringone of the songs but doing it in
a completely different way.
Yeah, great idea.
Yeah, we did a version ofTragedy, but we slowed it down.
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It's more of a ballad, it'smore heartfelt, the lyrics are
just amazing.
I've always thought that, anyway, that would be great to bring
those lyrics out, just do it acompletely different way.
And it works so well.
And singing together for thefirst time as well.
We haven't actually sungtogether, but we work remotely,
being in australia and the uk.
It's quite easy to do that nowis to just send files over and
(07:42):
that sort of thing.
So Debbie would record it overthere and send me her stems, I'd
carry on mixing here, I'drecord here.
So it's back and forth withthat and it came together really
nicely.
And for me, one big thing thatI've always wanted, or always
wondered what it was like to do,was to be able to sing with a
family member.
I see all these families,brothers and sisters, and
through the decades, you canhear something magical.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's the blend.
It's the blend.
Growing up, I've got a twin andwhen we were born there was a
bit of fuss because it wasanother set of twins in the
family.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Following on from Robin and Morris, and we're
non-identical as well.
So she's 4'10".
She's a good foot shorter thanme and darker skin.
We're very similar in looks,that's about it.
But singing we blend and whenwe sing, no one knew who was
singing what.
Yeah, because we'd split theharmonies and go that way and no
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one could ever pick up.
Even during school days andfurther on from that, nobody
knew who was singing what part,because our voices blended.
We just like one voice.
You can't describe it.
Yeah, we got older, she lostinterest in singing and that was
like I felt, like half of mewas lost yeah yeah, so I know
what Nick's saying.
Yeah, and then when we sangtogether and we blended, it was
(08:56):
like, ah, there it is, yeah, soyeah, and the blend is really
good.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I've listened to it and you really do blend well
together on it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There's been moments in the mixing where I've
listened to it and you really doblend well together on it.
There's been moments in themixing where I've literally had
to isolate the vocals because Icouldn't tell which one I was
working on.
Wait a minute, that's meant tobe me.
No, it is me.
Yes, it is me.
Yeah.
Just the times we blend so welltogether, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, that's awesome.
It's always great to have goodharmonies.
So how many songs have youreleased now?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We've got three out now, Two original and the debut
cover and we've been working onvarious ideas for quite a while.
But I've been very busy in thestudio and various other
projects.
Debbie's been very busy as well.
Getting that time together tocome together and get working
again's been a while since we'vebeen really working properly
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because of other projects Itotally get that.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Unfortunately, if you don't get to it, it never gets
done.
Sometimes you just gotta set atime and say we're gonna get
this done.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Sometimes there's just no other way yeah, exactly,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, butthere's been things bumping
along, yeah, and last year aswell.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, Last year as well, it was me that was holding
everything up.
I had pneumonia at thebeginning of the year.
Got over that, got COVID.
That knocked me out for nearlythree months.
Following from COVID, I got aheart condition and I didn't get
over that until November.
So I was up and down all year.
Health-wise, I've been giventhe all clear, hence why I'm
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really looking after my healthand going walking and everything
and working.
Now, yeah, it was just, it wasalways me holding him because
Nick was like how are you going?
And I'm like I'm not good, I'mnot good, I'm not recordable at
the moment.
And you could tell I wastalking through my nose and yeah
.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's okay, I've been getting ideas together.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, that's great.
Well, you know, health isalways number one.
If that's not good, nothing is.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's nothing Correct yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now that everything is good, you're good.
Everything seems to be pickingup for you.
I think you're planning onworking on new songs, correct?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Working on it now yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
we're on a track at the moment which is, again,
we're trying to do something alittle bit different every time.
This one's going to be reallydifferent.
It's special on this one, soreally looking forward to
getting this one out there.
Deb's working on some vocals atthe moment and I'm finishing
off some, a few instrumentalparts.
Hopefully, by the spring it'sgoing to be we'll be producing.
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That's the idea, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, that's great.
Now, when are you planning ongetting together in person so
that you can do studio worktogether rather than back and
forth over tracks?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, what do you Deb ?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I know it's either me go to the UK.
I would rather come to the UK,but we've been debating this.
Nick wants to come to Australia.
Okay, so we have spiders andsnakes.
You don't want to come here?
I'll come to the UK.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
I've got friends of mine downin Australia that says, come on
down.
I tell them I'm in the deepsouth now, I've got enough
snakes right here, I don't needto go down there and see them.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
We're not too bad.
We're not too bad.
They're there, but you'd haveto be really silly to get bitten
by a snake.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So how long is the flight from Australia to the UK?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's about 24, I think Don't quote me on that
it's a very long haul flightyeah.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Really.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, maybe sometime you'll get there, I'm sure, so
that way you guys can worktogether.
So what?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
are you currently doing now?
I'm currently working with thebest of the BG show in Australia
.
They invited me on to doImmortality, and that was as a
guest for their 25th anniversarya year ago.
Colin Immortality and that wasas a guest for their 25th
anniversary a year ago.
Colin Peterson, the originalBG's drummer, was actually
working with them and touringand telling his story.
Colin passed away last year sothey've asked me to do more
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shows this year, so there'sabout 20 shows.
And then they said wouldn'tNick come to Australia?
I said, would we go to the UK?
And they're going.
Let's think about that.
So who knows?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, no, that would be really good.
Yeah, that's a paid trip to getto Australia for you.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
That would be nice for the both of you correct,
we're doing New Zealand andthere are other places I can't
mention yet because it hasn'tbeen released.
But yeah, all over Australia,yes, and I just go in and do
immortality brilliant show,absolutely brilliant.
So yeah, I think singing livewith Debbie would be.
And I just go in and doimmortality Brilliant show,
absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So yeah, I think singing live with Debbie would
be a fantastic experience.
Both of us in the flesh singingtogether yeah, that would be
awesome really.
That would be an amazingexperience.
Like I say, it's something I'vealways wished I'd had.
In my life I've found bloodrelatives I could do that with.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, it's always nice to have that connection
with another person or people,because the music is just that
good, the harmonies, the singingis all that good.
I've heard your product.
You guys sound really goodtogether, so that would be a
fantastic opportunity for you toget something out there and
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show your talents just natural.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I know when I yeah, when I'm singing on the tracks I
can actually or when I'mputting harmonies down without
even hearing Nick, I hear Nickwhere Nick would be positioned
within the song, and then I workthrough my harmonies and I send
it back to Nick.
And we debated a few times onone song.
I threw in that many harmoniesI don't know how many I did and
Nick goes it back to Nick.
And we debated a few times onone song.
I threw in that many harmoniesI don't know how many I did and
Nick goes it's way too heavy.
(14:29):
I said, just drop them all in.
I hear it, I hear it, just dropthem all in.
And then he went aha, aha, Ihear it now.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Layers, lots of layers.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
The layers yeah, but the layers, yeah, but I could
also hear Nick in there, yes, Ithink.
Yeah, we're really very much onthe same page.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, and that's something that I've always loved
doing through my life as well.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Always loved singing harmonies, creating harmonies.
I was in a choir when I was sixuntil I was 14, primarily
because I enjoyed singingharmonies with people and, yeah,
always loved that.
Everything I've recorded, I'veput in harmonies and worked on
harmonies.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh yes, harmony is just awesome.
I remember a band I had onetime.
The bass player couldn't singharmonies so I would sing the
lead.
Then when the chorus came, hewould sing the lead, I would
switch to the harmonies.
Singing harmonies is one ofthose things some people have it
and then some people don't.
It just adds another layer tothat sound that you just can't
(15:27):
take away.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, I worked with a band that would do oh, it was a
show, neil Sedaka show WithNeil Sedaka.
He sings against himself.
He always goes one abovehimself throughout the whole
song and I used to be that thehigh Neil Sedaka throughout the
whole show.
Yeah, over 30 years I'd neverwanted to be out front.
I always wanted to be just oneof the backing singers and
(15:51):
everyone just kept going no, youneed to get out front.
I was forced out front so I'mcomfortable with it.
Yeah, I just never wanted to bethere because the pressure of
how you look, what you'rewearing, everything it all
changes when you're out frontand then you've got to entertain
.
You're not hidden behind themic.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, that's true, but nowadays it doesn't seem to
really matter much.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, but it's just been completely.
A wise man once told me pretendyou're in your own living room
singing with your friends andjust connect that way.
And that's how I go out onstage.
Even now they say to me are younervous?
I go.
No, I'm actually really excitedto get out there and I'm really
comfortable out there.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Who's it that said, imagine they're all naked?
Didn't someone say that?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, no, I don't do that, that's just too gross.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I've tried to do that and I've just got a bit
uncomfortable, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I always try to find that one person that's getting
into your music and just focuson them.
Their energy can give youenergy.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
That can be dangerous when they sing the wrong words,
because I'm that person in theaudience that will start singing
the wrong words and put thelead off track.
Or I deliberately clap out ofbeat.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I have to wind up, yeah, and they know what I'm
doing too.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The best thing to do is to follow their energy.
Then keep it up and don'tfollow their off beats.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, you don't have to know.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
This is great.
Look at the energy you haveright here.
You really have to get together.
Live the energy would just beawesome.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah yeah, we know it.
But when we started it wasCOVID anyway.
So we were happy being able todo what we were thrilled that we
could do what we were doing andto send files backwards and
forward, because I couldn't getinto a studio.
So I bought the studio and setmyself up.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So during COVID, yeah , COVID changed everything.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Everything changed and Nick guided me through that,
because I've never set up astudio before, so it was what
program to get?
It was training, wasn't it Overthe phone On?
Yeah, how did I know my trip?
Save my tracks, send the file,do this, do that?
Yeah, yeah, a lot happenedbehind the scenes.
I've learned a lot Bottom that.
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Yeah, yeah, a lot happenedbehind the scenes I've learned a
lot bottom line.
It worked, yeah, it worked,yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's fabulous, but we'rehaving fun.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, that's the main thing.
Have fun.
Are you planning on doing acomplete album soon?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
oh, good god, I'd love to yeah yeah, I think we're
working on track by track atthe moment.
There's so many songs we've gotideas we've got to work on, I
think track by track, and maybewe'll then put them all together
and release an album.
It's just really good doingsong by song.
We enjoy it, we have fun doingit, and once we've done one
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we've got this other idea.
So it's just a case of gettingin on that and working on that,
yeah, track by track at themoment.
Case of getting then on thatand working on that, yeah, track
by track at a moment.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
But yeah, I think we should release an album and I
think we're both perfectionists.
If we had more than one focusit would get messy, but we just
focus on one song at a time.
It's yeah, and then we pull itto pieces.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Every time we do it and we redo things and strategy
took how long until we werefinally happy yeah, it took
quite a long time because yeah,because I had an idea for an
oboe in it and I was playingaround with native instruments
and other virtual software and Ihad the melodies.
But no, this has got to be,this has got to be a real player
(19:25):
on here.
I want everything to sound,sound perfect.
So I got a friend in who'sgreat on piano and I scored the
strings and did a bit of guitaron it.
But I got the basics of ittogether and the oboe idea
actually came from Eddie Kramer.
Have you ever met Eddieactually?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, I've never met him.
Our paths have never crossed.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He's lovely.
Yeah, he's a lovely guy andsuch a talented producer.
I did a week's productioncourse with him in studio la
fabrique, lovely studio.
What was really good about thatwas he said look, keep in
contact.
Everybody that was there keepin contact.
I'm always here for any adviceor anything.
And I contacted him and said,look, this is what I'm doing.
What do you think?
Because I'd like you to mix itreally if you've got the time.
(20:07):
And he said I'd love to.
But he said I'll tell you whatit needs something on there
which it needs some core on clayor oboe or something like that
on there.
So I said that's a fantasticidea.
So I was working on that,thinking I could do that, but
after a while it became quiteapparent that this needs to be a
proper player.
Then approached dom kelly, whohe's done all the music for
(20:27):
puero.
I worked on tracks from Madonnaand various other people.
He's an amazing guy and I gavehim the track and he just put
his extra flurries on it.
He followed my melody.
He's this creative professional.
He doesn't just read music orcopy something that's given him.
He's his own take and his owncreativity in there, which was
exactly what it needed, and hejust brought the track alive
(20:49):
with what he did.
Yeah, yeah, it was aculmination of getting things
together and getting eddie onboard and get this track to
sound as good as we could.
So it took a while to gettogether, but I was so pleased
with it once it was all done.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, that's great.
Always nice to finish up aproject.
Now.
What's the feedback been like?
There's a new gib in town, anew duo, cousins Gibb.
What's the feedback you'regetting from the new sound and
what you're doing with your?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
music.
We're getting a lot of goodfeedback, actually because it's
such a heartfelt version.
We've had people crying hearingit and saying it brought me to
tears.
It's quite a powerful reworkingof it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, I've heard it.
It sounds really good.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's amazing how many obviously people haven't heard
it still and don't know of it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy in this day and time.
You can have a viral thing outthere and still people go huh, I
didn't realize that was outthere, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's taken some time to realize, yeah, yeah, it's
taken some time to realise.
Oh, it is that song.
Yes, I think the one word thatreally captured me was the
majority was the song washaunting, hauntingly beautiful.
Yeah, so yeah, and I thoughtthat's nice, and even my mum
said I'm lost for words, it'sjust beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And, of course, bg fans hearing it for the first
time is well, wait a minute.
And to get their head aroundthis completely different
version, because there's been somany covers of Tragedy which
are either very similar to theoriginal or rocked up version
but not done in this way.
So for some fans it's.
You know, I can't get my headaround this because I'm so used
(22:27):
to the song being what it is,but to so many others it's been
such a.
I can't believe that this isbeautiful.
I can't believe it's the samesong.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It is our voices.
Yeah, it's not done or anything.
It is actually us.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, there's no falsetto.
Where's the falsetto?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Sorry, the beauty of this.
There is a certain amount ofpeople that are growing up now
that will hear it for the firsttime and not realize what the
original was.
Then they hear yours, go backto hear the original and they're
comparing the original to yours.
So ultimately, you've created anew fan.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, I think when a song's covered and done in a
different way and it's used on afilm or something like that,
then people younger people,watching the film, that's their
first exposure to the song andthat's when they think who is
this?
I love this song.
They check out who it is andthey think that they wrote it or
it's from them.
So it quite often happens, Ithink through sync that's so
(23:31):
true, did you get any feedbackfrom the family?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Overall, family really liked it.
They loved it, yes.
And then we also heard fromBlue Weaver, who was keyboard
player for Bee Gees.
He was involved with theoriginal recording of Tragedy
and he was just blown away.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's just so good to hear recording of Tragedy and
he was just blown away.
That's just so good to hear.
That's the feather in the cap,the cherry on the top, when
someone that worked on theoriginal hears it and likes it.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah.
I got a lovely message fromBlue and it really touched me.
I couldn't believe.
You know this guy that was onall of the records saying this
lovely message about the song isincredible yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It doesn't get much better than that.
So what are the plans for thefuture?
I think you've got a singlecoming out for spring.
Anything past that?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
yeah, that's the plan , and yeah, there's another one
there's another one.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
There's another one, yeah.
So's another one.
There's another one, yeah.
So we've had a lot ofconversations at the end of last
year about what this year wouldlook like and, yeah, definitely
recording.
So we're just going to do onesong at a time because we are
perfectionists.
I think if he gave me two orthree songs, my mind would be
going one at a time, get thatright and then move on to the
(24:48):
next and the plan, of course, isas well as to try lots of
different things, doing thingsin different ways, and so we
evolve with it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
We had a chat are we doing this sort of style or do
we keep things to this sort ofgenre?
We both are the same in that wedon't want to do that.
We don't want to really putanything in a box if we feel
like doing something which isgonna be a punk song I don't
know, probably won't but or wedo a ballad, or we do a reggae,
or we do rock.
However, something forms.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
This next one's a bit of a twist, but I'm not going
to say what the twist is.
Yeah, again, it's haunting,it's beautiful.
Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah it's going to be .
Yeah, this one's going to bespecial.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Don't say it.
Don't say it, nick.
How do people find you, how dopeople contact you, how do they
follow your music and yourcareers?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Okay, we're on Bandcamp, we're on Spotify,
we're on Amazon, all theplatforms Apple Music, youtube
Music and, and of course,facebook is our main area to
contact.
Facebook is the main one we useat the moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're outthere.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
We also drop in everything else we're doing.
Like Nick works in a band aswell and he's doing production
stuff, so he'll drop that intoour Facebook as well.
When I'm doing the shows, Ishare that.
There will be video or videoaudio of me singing within the
shows as well.
We're letting them knoweverything else that we're doing
.
We're not just in the studio,so it's good.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, that makes it interesting for people to follow
you.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They can see what you're doing together.
They can see what you're doingseparately and hopefully they
follow you because of whatyou're doing together.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, and a year ago I never thought I'd be working
with the show the Best of theBGs, which is endorsed by the
family as well.
They are amazing.
They've worked all over theworld and now I'm a guest in
their show.
They keep saying I've got topinch myself.
No, I'm pinching myself.
You're actually paying me to dothis Fun song.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
What's the old saying ?
You'll pay me for somethingI'll do for free.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, so correct, yeah, but no, and having a
wonderful time with them.
They're beautiful people, verytalented people.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Well, that's great.
This has been a greatconversation, great stories of
your journey together.
I really appreciate you comingon oh, thank you for having us
hey, anytime tony, anytime it.
Yeah, it's a shame we can't bethere in person with you yeah,
that'd be nice next time you'rein nashville, both of you stop
by yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, noyeah just thank you for wanting
(27:30):
to talk to us.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I feel very flattered .
Speaker 2 (27:32):
yes, yeah, thanks, tony, and we'll keep you posted
with what we're doing, whatwe're up to, and you'll be one
of the first to know when wefinally meet.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, that'd be great .
Matter of fact, when you dofinally do that, we'll have to
do this on a podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
We'll have to actually record that, won't we?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's a great idea.
We can do a video podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, absolutely yeah , that'd be special.
Thank you so much for having uson.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Thank you, it's been my pleasure.
Thanks again.
Thanks for joining us today.
We hope you enjoyed the show.
This has been a Tony Mantorproduction.
(28:18):
For more information, contactmedia at platomusiccom.
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