113: Rudolph Hoess, Part 5 - FAFO

As a member of the WVHA, Rudy had unfettered access to everything involved in the concentration camp system, and it was his expertise that led him to spearhead Operation Hoess: The mass deportation and execution of Hungarian Jews. During this time, however, the Allies have successfully invaded Europe and the time of the Third Reich is nearing its inevitable end. We then touch upon the aftermath, the Nuremberg Trials, and the poetic justice which befalls Rudy as he is executed on the very grounds of Auschwitz he helped create.

Episode Transcript

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Unknowingly, I was a cog in the wheel of the great extermination
machine created by the 3rd Reich.
The machine had been smashed to pieces.
The engine is broken, and I too,must now be destroyed.
The world demands it. You know it's looking up, guys.
Because this is it. This is Jen.
This is Becky. And this is too close to home
and we are ending the story of Rudolph Host the commandant of

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Auschwitz are Nazi editions. Nazi Editions.
I know you're so excited to be over with this.
So. We are thrilled to be done with
it, so let's just go ahead and dive in, do our sources one last
time. The comedone of Auschwitz
autobiography where Rudolph hosts KLA History of Nazi

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concentration camps by Nicholas Washman.
Definitely recommend that one ifyou have any kind of curiosity
about Nazi desk camps. You would say who who does?
But look at your girl. That's me.
Hey, we need to, in all honesty,know our history of the world so
we don't repeat it. Exactly Third rank.
The Fallen Rise on Netflix Nazi Death marches 19441945 Nazi,

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Said Nuremberg, The Lost Testimony.
Telegraph UK. Smithsonian Magazine.
auschwitz.org, Geo People. Everyday Science.
The Holocaust Encyclopedia. Sutton Hall University World
Holocaust remembrance Center, Jewish current organization,
Conference on Jewish material claims against Germany, Music
and the Holocaust organization, CNN, the Auschwitz Birkenau
Museum, PBS National Library of Medicine, BBC Holocaust history

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of sorts blog, the Holocaust History Project, Jewish Virtual
Library org facinghistory.org, WW2 foundation and
jewishgen.org. That's a lot.
It is. I was sitting there thinking
about like how we use our sources now versus when we first
started. We'd have like 1, maybe 2.

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Now I'm like, you know what? I have a little bit of a problem
buying books. Now I have a library in my home.
I never thought I would since I call them libraries.
Hey, that's usually what I say too.
So last time we talked about hisaffair and then his big
promotion to the WHFAI. Think that's what it is?
WVHA It's a lot of abbreviations.

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I'm done with it. OK, I'm I'm done with it.
They were Nazis. That's what you need to know.
And. Bad.
Today we're going to finish his ill-fated story.
So now that he is working at this whva now he was going to
have unfettered access to all the documents about all the

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concentration camps which he reportedly used to get an
overall view of the camp system.Remember he loved creating
Auschwitz and was very diligent.He spent his every waking hour
apparently, obviously not if since he had an affair and all
this other bullshit, but I digress.
But he was very into the the Nazi concentration camp

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efficiency and creating them. So while it was a desk job, it
did have the perk of being able to travel and see all the
concentration camps. I mean, who doesn't love that,
right? Doesn't love a tour?
This is really one of the most ridiculous attempts to look like
he was an unwilling participant,but it really shows how much he
believed in things. He would speak on how bad it had

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been in the camps and that he couldn't refuse orders, but also
they weren't listening to him about the prisoners to choose
and how to get more affected armament work out of them.
But he would admit the truth of the matter.
Finally, quote the Economic Administration head office, one
of the prisoners preserved for the armaments armaments
industry. Since, however, Paul had allowed

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himself to be LED astray by the Reich Theaters s s continual
demands for even more labor, he unintentionally played into the
hands of the Reich Security HeadOffice.
Because of his insistence on thefulfillment of these demands,
thousands of prisoners died at their work, since virtually all
the basic necessities of life for each for such masses of
prisoners were lacking. I guessed it at this at the time

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that this was happening, but wasreluctant to believe it.
Today I can see the picture moreclearly.
I have now described what was the true and only background to
it, all the dark shadows that lay behind the concentration
camps. Thus, the concentration camps
were intentionally, though sometimes unintentionally,
transformed into huge scale extermination centers.
He's like, it kind of was, you know?

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Kind of. Definitely was his time in the
WBHA would not be long as he would be summoned back to
Auschwitz, this time with the objective of supervising
Operation Hosts, which was namedafter himself, you know, but.
He didn't really want to do it right.
Not at all. OK, he was dead set against it.

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By 1944, things were looking pretty Dang bad for the Nazis.
They had lost Italy and North Africa.
Their attempt to evade Britain was moot.
They had lost the battle of Stalingrad.
Hitler had become super paranoidwith outbursts of anger towards
his ever shrinking trusted innercircle.
Rather than retreat, he wanted to proceed with unrealistic

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strategies which would result inthe loss of even more German
lives as well as their counterparts.
He would become increasingly reclusive, his health continuing
to deteriorate. While it's known that he took an
impressive cocktail of 90 pills a day.
He regularly consumed methamphetamine, barbiturates,
opiates and cocaine, as well as potassium bromide and atropa

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belladonna, to name a few. He was possibly summering from
not only Parkinson's, but also tertiary syphilis.
So lovely, right? So.
You're telling me he liked to have a good time?
He loved a good time. I like that.
There you go. Having been treated in his youth
for syphilis, the because the treatment had finally become
available in 1910. It was unsuccessful and the

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reappearance of his symptoms began in the late 1930s.
By 1944 he was looking a whore 53 with a case of the ham
Trimbley. OK, why is this important
though? Well, it explains why he pushed
through with the invasion of Hungary.
Hungry had been an Axis power since 1941, even having some
soldiers to participate in Operation Barbarossa Hopper to

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make a Long story short, which is already too late at this
point. By 1944, they were secretly
trying to broker a separate peace agreement with the Allies.
Like, oh shit's getting real ugly.
We need to go ahead and just getahead of this, OK?
Hitler was like the hell you are, and Operation Margaretti
was launched with Germany invading Hungary and deposing

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their leader. Following this invasion, Hitler
ordered Eichmann to arrange the transport of half a million
Hungarian Jews to be exterminated.
At the time of the invasion, Hungary had a Jewish population
of 825,000, the largest still remaining in Europe at that
time. It included Romanian and Czech
Jews, as well as many of those who were trying to escape from
the war to a relatively safer country.

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Which turns out Hungary weren't it.
They initially had insisted commands to deport Jews for
extermination from 1942 to 1944.But eventually I'm sure several
factors, including a troubled government, dashed the
falsehoods to security and safety that many had at the
time. Host would be brought into the
operation, which would be named after himself in May of 1944.

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Why Host? Because he was the man for
exterminations. He had made Auschwitz pretty
successful in their eyes. Also, the current commandant
have us kind of caught up in some drama.
And you know me, I'm here for the cheese man.
Let's talk about that. He apparently was engaged with a
woman who had previously admitted to being what they
called a race to filer, or as wewould like to call it, tolerant.

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She had apparently had a relationship with a Jewish man,
and by proxy, that commandant might as well have slept with
the Jew himself. Just tawdry nonsense basically.
Regardless, they knew that he had to come in and use his knack
for a consistent and efficient mass murder.
He would also bring in his most trusted and experienced killing
associates to prepare for the massive deportations to begin.

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He was sent to Hungary to determine the numbers to which
they should expect in the state that those numbers would be in.
Within eight weeks of the invasion, and with the
assistance of the Hungarian government, they were able to
enact the Yellow Star and GhettoIS ghettoization laws, all to
his advantage for review. He decided that at best they

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could expect only about 25% of the Jews to be able to join
their slaver. Slave labor force slaver, That
works too. Then he and Eichmann made a
deportation plan. They were to use 45 cattle cars
per train and four trains a day to deport 12,000 plus Jews from
Budapest to Auschwitz, where ourboy Rudy would be waiting at.

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Least they got to ride in a train and not walk it.
I don't know. Well, yeah, you know, it's like,
which is the lesser evil, which is the the least painful, which
case both. I mean, you wouldn't have any
other option. They they stuffed you in like.
Cattle. Sardines, cattle, that right on

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the nose. This is so sad.
Go ahead. So.
That's why. That's why we keep interjecting
with our little witty jokes, youknow, to preserve a lot, a
little bit of humanity in our hearts.
I know. From there they would be sorted.
Those who could work, which was very few, were sent to places to
work, the ones who are prime material for human experiments,

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especially experiments that would help benefit future
soldiers. And finally, then you had the
ones who were just no use and sent straight to the
crematorium. Roughly 20% were chosen for
experiments that in some cases save lives, while others were
tortured and basically butcheredto death and even thereafter.
So again, it's like what? What's the best out of the

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worst? They get clever with their
plundering. They would tell the Hungarian
Jews they needed to take all their valuables and bring it
with them on the train. They made it seem like they were
saved from death and it was justreally baiting them to get all
their shit. It's.
Terrible. With the plan in place, in May
1944, the deportations began with the first holding 1800 and

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the second holding 2000, followed by another and another
and another for two months. They would eventually have to
pause the transports because they could not handle the rapid
influx of prisoners. This meant Ruby had to trek all
the way back to Budapest and just get things reorganized and
get the things going back efficiently.
Poor guy, it's really. Tough be.

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A Nazi poll had visited at the height of the killings in June
of 44, where he allowed them to resume burning bodies and pits,
as well as building a fence around the crematoriums to
contain the Hungarian Jews who had repeatedly tried to escape
their deaths. It was It also was to help cover
things up by expediently killingthe evidence and burning it,
both human and of the paper variety.

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This is where they were startingto like, let me get rid of
everything. This is because in the midst of
the this summer of killing the most deadly at this point of the
war, the Allies stormed the beaches of Normandy and they
were they stormed the beaches ofNormandy in June and we're
headed eastward by July, where they would end up in Paris by
August, liberating France. The Allies are closing in and

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the panic is quickly getting outof control within the the Reich.
So we're just shits, pandemonium, cats and dogs
living together. They're.
Coming to whoop our ass. Things were also out of hand at
the Auschwitz Birkenau. The Sonder Commando had now
reached 900 members and they worked around the clock burning
bodies that wouldn't fit in the crematorium.

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Many victims remember that once the smoke from the crematorium
stack started, they never again stopped.
Having closed in 43, they ended up reopening crematorium #4
again. And they were getting a little
lazy with things like not following procedures and gas
chambers resulting in people whowould survive when they opened
the doors. 1 of Rudy's most ruthless and ruthless Co

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conspirators in this was said tobe was said to make Doctor
Mangala look human. His name was Otto Mull have he
was known as Cyclops due to having a glass eye, but he was
also known by his victims by another name, the Butcher of
Birkenau. He served as the chief of the
crematorium and extermination zone at Birkenau from 1943 to

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45, a role that he took immense pleasure in because he caused
extreme cruelty after an accident.
He suffered head trauma. We all know how that happens, we
do. And it was believed he suffered
from frontal lobe syndrome. Benjamin Jacobs, an involuntary
Jewish dentist, would say quote.He had straight blonde hair that

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was cut short and his chiseled face were set a pair of cold
blue eyes. Only one of them was real, for
he had lost the other fighting in France.
When he spoke, only the live eyeshifted.
There seemed to be no real feeling in the heart beating
beneath his bulging chest. Like I wonder how obvious he
made it though that he was looking at his fake eye.

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It makes me. I was thinking was man can paint
a picture. I can feel like I'm in the room
with that guy. I just thought about Austin
Powers when he saw the mole, Like mole, mole, mole, mole.
I just want to cut it up and make some guacamole get a laugh
somehow. A Sonderkommando prisoner named

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Heinrich Tauber would testify about Otto's involvement in the
Hungarian deportations and Holocaust.
Helped chauffeur Fyodor Moll wasone of the most degenerate of
the lot. Before his arrival at the camp,
he was in charge of the work at the bunkers where they
incinerated the gassed victims in pits.
Then he was transferred for a while to another section in view

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of preparation necessary for the, quote reception of convoys
from Hungary in 1944 he was put in charge of all the crematoria.
It is he who organized the largescale extermination of the
people arriving in these convoys.
Just before the arrival of the Hungarian transports.
He ordered pits to be dug alongside in Crematoria 5 and
restarted the activity of Bunker2, which had been lying idle and

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in the pits in the yard of the crematoria.
There were notices on the post with inscriptions telling the
new arrivals from the transportsthat they were to go to where
they were to go in camp where work was waiting for them, but
that they first had to take a bath and undergo deinfestation.
For that it was necessary for them to undress and put all
their valuables in baskets specially placed for this

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purpose in the yard. Mole repeated the same thing in
his speeches to new arrivals. There were no there were so many
convoys that sometimes it happened that the gas chambers
were incapable of containing allthe new arrivals.
The excess people were generallyshot one at a time and often by
Mole himself. On several occasions Mole threw
people into the flaming pits alive.
He also practiced shooting people from a distance.

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He ill treated and beat Sonder Komando prisoners, treating them
like animals. Those were in his personal
service told us that they that he used a piece of wire to fish
out gold objects in the box containing the jewels taken from
new arrivals. Then he took them off in a
briefcase among the objects leftby the people who came to be
gassed. He took furs and different types
of foods, in particular fat. When he took food, he said

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smilingly to the S s around him that one had to take advantage
before the lean years came. This is all very disturbing.
Honestly, the there are many quotes that are disturbing, but
all of them speak of his crueltyof finding an alive baby,
stomping its throat, kicking a corpse into a fire, throwing
live children into boiling hot fat left by by the burn corpses,

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shooting women naked in different areas of their body so
that it would fall into the fireand he could watch them burn.
He would set children on fire and make them run to the
electric fences and just more. All of it disgusting.
And his reputation was well known as he was not only feared
by prisoners but s s men alike. There was no way Host was not

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aware of Otto's atrocities, he didn't stop them.
They both testified at Nurembergand while Host would admit to
being a part of the Nazi killingmachine, Otto would not.
No one believed him though, and he would be hung in 1946.
Eventually, with the repeated attempts at peace task peace
talks, Allies were able to talk Hungry into halting the

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deportation in July, ending the operation.
But it would only be temporary as it would resume in October
after threats from Hitler. Host would be busy elsewhere
though, as he would be sent to Ravensbrook Women's Camp that
November. His family had moved to a very
nearby town in Ravensbrook and he was ordered to go and attend
to, you know you guess it, mass executions and had to build more

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crematoriums at Ravensbrook as well.
He would speak on the state of things for the bear.
Marked quote. By the end of 1944 it was the
same story everywhere. The Eastern Front was
continuously being withdrawn with the German soldier in the
East no longer stood firm. The Western Front too was being
forced back. Yet the theater spoke of holding

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firm at all cost. Goebel spoke and wrote about
believing in miracles Germany will conquer.
For my part, I had great doubts whether we could win the war.
I had seen and heard too much. Certainly we could not win this
way. But I dare not doubt our final
victory. I must believe in it.
But despite his attempt to keep that belief, he felt awkward as

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fuck when talking to his wife about it.
Quote my wife often asked me during the spring of 45, when
everyone saw that the end was coming, how on earth could we
win the war? Have we really got some decisive
weapon in the reserve? And with a heavy heart, I could
only say that she must have faith, for I did not dare tell
what I knew. I could not discuss with anyone

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I what I do and what I've seen and heard.
It was a very long quote, but atthe end it was very telling.
With quote, it was possible thatour world would perish, so we
had to win. Sorry, I'm left out a whole
word. It was possible that our world
would perish, so we had to win. While Ravensbruck, he would

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overexeem an extermination of five to 6000 prisoners, as well
as working to destroy any and all evidence of Nazi crimes.
Unfortunately, unbeknownst Rudy,his beloved Himmler had become a
turncoat. He had secretly been trying to
work with Allies to secure more releases and murders, while
simultaneously ordering for moremurders and evidence
destruction. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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We're not doing anything. Rudy would be summoned back to
Auschwitz again in the spring of45 to get a status on its
evacuation. He would recall the insane chaos
and how it this was truly the end.
So I'm going to condense a larger passage because I know
that I'm like getting heavy intoquotes.
Sometimes it's just better to hear directly from the horse's

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mouth quote. I immediately drove on in the
hope of reaching Auschwitz in time to make sure that the order
of destruction of everything important had been properly
carried out. But I was only able to get as
far as Odor near Ratibor, for the Russian armored spearheads
were already fanning out on the far side of the river.
On all the roads and tracks in Upper Silesia West of the Odor,

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I now met columns of its prisoners struggling through the
deep snow. They had no food.
Most of the non commissioned officers in charge of the
stumbling columns of corpses hadno idea where they're they were
supposed to be going. They only knew that their final
destination was Gross Rosen, buthow to get there was a mystery.
On their own authority, the right the requisition food from

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the villages through which they passed rested for hours, then
trudged on again. There was no question of
spending the night in barns of schools, since these were all
cramped with refugees. The route taken by these
miserable columns, which they'retalking about just lines of
people, was easy to follow sinceevery few 100 yards laid bodies
of prisoners who had collapsed or been shot on one occasion as

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I stopped by my car. Stopped my car by a dead body.
I heard revolver shots quite near, so I ran towards the sound
and saw our soldier in the act of stopping his motorcycle and
shooting a prisoner leaning against a tree.
I shouted at him, asking him what he thought he was doing and
what harm the prisoner had done to him.
He laughed impertini in his in my face, and asked me what I

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proposed to do about it. I drew my pistol and shot him
forth with He was a Sergeant Major in the Air Force.
Beside the road were not only dead prisoners, but also
refugees, women and children. Outside 1 village I saw a woman
sitting on a tree stump singing to her dead child as she rocked
it in her arms. The child had been dead for a
long time and the woman was mad.Many women struggled through the

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snow, pushing perambulators stacked with their belongings.
They had only one aim, to get away and to not fall into the
hands of the Russians. I travelled to Breslow to tell
them what was happening and to urge him to stop the evacuation.
He showed me the wire wireless message from the Rice Fiora s s
which was Himmler, which made him responsible for seeing that
not a single healthy prisoner remained in any camp under his

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authority. Pretty much saying kill them
all. Yeah.
At the railway station at Gross Rosen, the transports coming in
were immediately sent on. Only the smallest ones could be
fed. Gross Rosen himself had no more
food. Dead s s men lay peacefully and
open cars in between dead prisoners.
Those still still alive sat on top of them chewing their piece

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of bread. Best not described.
I lived through the evacuation Soxsenhausen and Ravensbrook.
The scene were the same here until the very end.
I tried my utmost to bring some order to this chaos, but it was
all in vain. We ourselves had to flee.
What he was describing was the Auschwitz death March where
56,000 prisoners were marched away from the front to other

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camps. The s s were destroying what
they could, documents, prisoners, buildings, bodies.
But with the volume and their extensive and diligent record
taking it would make it impossible.
Good, that's right. Good.
Leave the evidence that's right.In fact this issue alone helped
when prosecuting war crimes at the Nuremberg trials later.

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These marches were chaotic, aimless and above all lethal.
Even as they marched through small villages.
The prospect of the Allies beingthe enemy fast on the horizon
caused a split in their approachto these prisoners.
Some locals helped participate in the massacre of Jews and
other prisoners. Almost like a last ditch fuck
you. And then others would give what
food and water they could as it was really scarce.

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Like there's the difference between a good human with
empathy and just being downrightevil, yeah.
There it is. Some 250,000 prisoners would
perish on these death marches. 1Hungarian Jewish poet named
Miklos Radnotti. He was shot to death during a
death March in November of 1944,buried in a mass grave.

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Months later, when they exhumed the grave, several poems were
discovered in his clothes, including this one called Forced
March. A fool he is, who collapsed,
rises and walks again, ankles and knees moving alone like
wandering pain. Yet he, as if wings uplifted
him, sets out on his way, and invain the dish calls him back.

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Who dare not stay? And if he asked why not, he
might answer without leaving hispath.
That his wife was awaiting him, and a saner, more beautiful
death. Poor fool, he's out of his mind
now. For a long time only scorched
winds have whirled over the houses.
At home. The wall had been laid low.
The plum tree is broken there. The knight of our native hearth

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flutters thick with fear. Oh, if only I could believe that
everything of worth were not just in my heart, that I still
had a home on earth. If I only had.
As before, jam made fresh from the plum would cool on the old
veranda. In peace.
The bee would hum, And as end ofsummer stillness would bask in
the drowsy garden. Naked among the Lees would sway

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the fruit tree's burden, and Fanny would be waiting, blonde
by russet hedgerow as the slow morning painted slow shadow over
shadow. Could it perhaps still be the
moon tonight? So round.
Don't leave me friend. Shout on me, I'll get up off the
ground. With the KL system and other
ruins basically frantically moving and killing prisoners,

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those elite Nazis who were stillAllegiant hosts included, headed
towards the fortress north of Flinsburg.
He and his family had to flee and Rudy would also escort other
Nazi s S members such as Theodore Ikas widow who had
died. He had died in 1943.
During the war. They had a run at night,
avoiding air and land detection at all cost.

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Eventually while on the run he would receive news he did not
expect. The Fiora was dead by suicide
and really did shock them. And I feel like it really
shocked a lot of people because till the Andy was like no no no
no we're going to win guys. This is all a part of the plan,
even though he himself had not been seen, I think for months

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prior to his death. He just hid away in a bunker
boat below Berlin. Host and his wife were shocked
and contemplated, also committedsuicide.
They decided against it, much tohis later regret quote.
Nevertheless, because of the children, we did not do this for
their sake. We wanted to take our own
shoulders what was coming, but we should have done it.
I've always regretted it since we would have all been spared a

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great deal, especially my wife and the children.
How much more suffering will they have to endure?
Oh get the fuck. Out of here we.
Are bound and fettered to that other world and we should have
disappeared with it. And that's true.
Well, maybe not their children, but the shitty people that were
part of it. I mean, and there was a lot of
them that did like, what do theycall it?

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Family annihilators, basically, Yeah, killed their whole family.
That's how she. Went there, they knew what they
were doing was wrong. Otherwise you'd have been like,
why would I even think about killing myself?
I was doing everything that was right.
Goebbels and his wife did that, they killed their children and
then they both committed suicide.
Rudy would hear about his children's governance having
left and stayed with her mother and song to Mikael Sadan on the

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very North Coast of Germany. He decided to send his wife and
all all of his children except the oldest son to that area.
It's hard to pronounce for safety.
And then he and his son proceeded towards Flinsburg.
What host did not know is that just a few days prior to
Hitler's suicide, Hitler had learned that Heinrich Himmler

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had wasn't so honest after all, and he had been negotiating with
the Allies. Hitler lost his shit furiously.
Standing on Himmler's secret negotiations were the worst
treasury he's ever known. Regardless, Himmler would be
headed to meet his loyal men andthey were not aware of this.
In Flintsburg. They would get their last order

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from the Rice Furer s s HeinrichHimmler on the first week of May
1945. He would learn that the KL
system was no more and Rudy would recall quote.
There was no more talk of fighting every man for himself
was now the order of the day. I shall never forget my last
meeting with the Rice Furer s s.He was beaming and in the best
spirits yet the world, our world, had crumbled beneath our

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feet. He said well gentlemen, this is
the end. You know what you now have to
do. So far I understood him, since
these words were in accordance with what he had been preaching
to the s s for years. Self sacrifice for the ideal.
But then he gave us our last order.
Hide in the Army. Such was our farewell message
for the man who I looked up to so respectively, and whom I had

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such implicit trust, whose orders and utterances have been
gospel to me. That's why you don't trust
anybody. Exactly.
But you don't trust me. Oh, well, that's like 99.9%.
But there's always that .01% that I could turn into a zombie.
I could be possessed by a ghost.I'm just saying those.

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Aren't bad things though. That's.
True, I would be a little nippy though if I was a zombie.
Feel better than a noun, right? You're right.
You're right though. Zombies are indiscriminate.
They eat everybody. With that, he was basically on
his own. He would send his driver away,
taking his son back to Rudy's wife, Hedwig.

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He received false papers that would allow him to vanish into
the Navy under the alias of Fronzling.
Their hosts would learn of Himmler's arrest in late May and
his subsequent suicide. While Rudy had his own poison
Viola, he wasn't willing to throw the towel in and decided
I'm just going to keep on waiting.
Seeing how he was attached to the Naval Intelligence School

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with false papers, he was able to stay close to his family and
visit. Eventually, he had been given
his free previous occupation as farmer.
He was able to move to a farm inFlinsburg where he worked for
eight months. But in 1946, British
intelligence forces managed to uncover the host family
location. They'd be founded a sugar
factory where Hedwig had been working.

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There, she and the children willbe questioned pretty savagely.
By some accounts I read in some sources they beat the oldest
child, Klaus, to get informationout of them and I think Klaus
was like 16 or something. Still, you don't have to fucking
beat the Turans, OK? Well, I mean, what if he was
wearing a Nazi? You know what?
That's questions I don't need tobe asking, you know?
It's hard for me to say any input because they're all a

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bunch of fucking Nazis. Yeah, it's.
Like it's like it's hard for me.To be like, oh, don't hurt them.
I know they're the kids, but like, if you're raised as a
Nazi, you're probably going to become one.
So I'm really trying to just notsay anything.
Sometimes it's better that way. It is, you know.
What Mama always said if I don'thave nothing nice to say, don't
say anything. Well shit, what the hell would I

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say otherwise? The same.
Girl, same. I'm just trying not to, you
know, say violence is the way, but in this instance, I feel
like violence is the way. Well, it was the way in this
case because. He told it all, didn't he?
He told him. All Well, not him, but the Mama
did. The guy who who had tried to

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interview them was so loud that Bridget, the daughter said that
she had headaches for years afterwards that.
Sounds so, Emma. I had to.
Listen to him beat my brothers and he gave me a head and now?
It's never going away. She, Bridget herself was like,

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while his son that was in the Commandant Shadow seemed
remorseful, although he did seemlike he forgot a lot of fucking
shit. Like he acted like he never.
He's like, what? There were fires every day.
There was smoke and dead bodies.What she was like, well, First
off, Jews get their reparations,OK?

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They get their money, OK. She said she was a little bit of
a denier too. She was like, well, they say all
these Jews died. Well, why are there so many Jews
still here? This is why I.
Don't have a strong case againstnot beating the children.

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She died of cancer. That makes her very painful.
I mean, Hedwig did resist questioning and pretending that
she didn't know any anything until they threatened to send
her sons to Siberia. That's when she gave up Rudy's
location pretty quickly. Just that yelling and saying
like I'm going to fuck you true around up.
I'm going to send them out thereby themselves.

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Say I hope for the best children.
Are the weak link. I'm just saying that look kind
of soft. Looks like they just been
playing in a garden at a fuckingcamp.
An official Army report dated March 15, 1946.
Camp Victor Cross sent information on his arrest.
Quote. After five months of continuous

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investigations, interrogations and extensive searches, this
section has succeeded in arresting s s Olberstrom
Banfiora hosts Rudolf Franz Ferdinand, who commanded the
notorious Auschwitz concentration camp, which was
built under his supervision. They would find Rudy in his
pyjamas in the early hours of March 11th.

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He was awakened by what he thought was a robbery because
that had been happening a lot inthe area.
And then he quickly realized he was caught.
He kept saying like, no, no, no.I'm Franz Lane.
I'm Franz Lane. They're like the.
Fuck you all they'll. Fuck, you all beat the shit out
of him and they're like, you know what?
Take all that wedding ring and on the inside of his wedding
ring it has his and Hedwig's actual names on his like.

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Dummy, all people always got to hold on to trinkets.
That's what gets you caught. Sentimental gets you caught, he
would recall Morse fully quote my vial of poison had broken
just two days prior. British intelligence would take
him back to the barracks where he was held in eight months
prior under his alias. He was in this.

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It was just like a transit prison.
They after the war and all the Allies were going through all
the Germans being like, are you culpable?
Are you a Nazi or are you going to play nice?
Are we going to be tolerant? Now, in a moment of Inglourious

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Basterds, the person who personally apprehended Rudy was
Hans Alexander, a Jew who immigrated from Germany to
London in 19. Yeah.
Baby, we about to get real now. Guess what, motherfucker, I'm a
Jew. He would state that they treated
him badly. Based on the picture after his
capture. I would say so, but it was

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rightly deserves and no tears were being wept for him.
None. Not a near 1 dry as can be over
like. A fucking Sahara Hans would say
that they beat him with axe handles.
Then after a period of internal debate, he finally pulled his
fellow soldiers off of Rudy. Like you know what though, we
really do need them for this Trials and stuff coming up.

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Squirrel. Oh, hold on.
Wait. Oh, wait, no.
Don't exactly. You.
Know what? It'd be a shame.
If I looked away for a few minutes.
Going to tie my shoe real quick but I'm in a hurry.
I'll be right there. You just hold on.
Hans would become a banker and never really spoke about this

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after the war. It wasn't until after he died
that his nephew Thomas Harding heard his story and wrote Hans
and Rudolph about the whole capture.
They would find a whip in Hedwig's luggage.
And they insisted that we're like, you used that on Jews,
didn't you? And he's like, I did not only I
never even used it on my horse. First of all, your face when you

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were like, they were like, yeah,is that right?
We. Know you did it Stop.
So they flogged him with the whip, rightfully so.
Yay, finally the. Story gets good.
Eventually, he would admit it made sense.
And they were so intense to. Hold on, he says.

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Let me make sense. To think I used the whip but.
I mentioned it. Well, he said, it made sense
that they were so intense because they were Jews, see.
I should have jumped ahead. He's right.
He's right. The self restraint to only beat
him had to be tough. That's what he said.
He would write an affidavit withsome of the figures of the camp

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implicating himself and others. Quote I was commented out of
Auschwitz until the 1st December1943 and I estimate that at
least 2.5 million victims were executed and exterminated in gas
chambers of crematories. Max Max mass mass Execution
mass. Max saying they were it was the

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top of the incinerator, so. It began during the summer in
1941 and lasted until the fall of 1944.
I supervised personally the executions in Auschwitz into the
1st of December 1943 and. Then I went on Christmas break.
Sorry. I just started thinking about

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the Griswolds. And when I came back, we started
the bitches right back up. Sorry y'all.
This is way better than the actual code.
I'm just saying it's much more light and airy than saying after
I constructed the extermination building in Auschwitz, I used

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Cyclone BA, crystallized prussicacid, which was thrown into the
death chambers through a small opening.
See, I like yours better. Right.
I love a Becky remix. Eventually he would be moved
again, flown back to Germany where he would sit for a few
weeks. The few weeks in which he would
have written this whole biography.
It was a very short amount of time.

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One day he was suddenly cleaned up and placed in the lorry in
quick order. He was taken to Nuremberg to be
a witness in the trials, which were in full motion by then.
Do you know much about the the trials that I didn't I?
Just I just. Knew that the Nuremberg trials
were after the war and it was where allies were all working

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together to bring these major Nazis to trial and they lasted
for years. Oh, I didn't.
Know that and they. Had other trials later on, like
they've had trials in the last say 15 years to prosecute Nazi
war criminals, which they're facing to be extinct.
They're like 100 years old now, but I digress.

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They're. Endangered right now.
They're not extinct yet. They're endangered.
They're endangered. I wish they were extinct, but
you know what? I feel like they keep cropping
up these days. Yeah, Ernst Carlton Bruner was
another Nazi on trial and he hadsummoned, had his attorney had
summoned hosts as a defense witness.

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Rudy was confused, though, saying, quote, I was in
Nuremberg because Carlton Bruner's counsel had demanded me
as a witness for his defense. I have never been able to grasp
and it is still not clear to me how I of all people could have
helped exonerate Carlton Bruner.Like, Sir, Sir, come on now.

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Colton Bruner's attorney felt that he could use hosts to
distance his defendant from the killing.
Except here's an excerpt from the trial where you will, where
I will translate. The attorney says.
Is it true that in 1941 you wereordered to Berlin to see Himmler
and host said yes, Sir. In the summer of 1941 I was

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summoned to Berlin to see the dry spirit S S Himmler to
receive personal orders. He told me that the furor had
given the order to the final solution of the Jewish question.
The attorney said did you ever talk with Colton Bruner with
reference to your task? And host said no, never.
What would happen would piss offthe gallery.
Following this, he would start spilling his guts.

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He would tell everything from his Nazi lens.
Of course, he was to the day he died a staunch Nazi.
So quote I remain as I have always been, a convinced
National Socialist in my attitude to life.
When a man has adhered to a belief in an attitude for 9 on
25 years, has grown up with it, become bound to it, body and
soul, he cannot simply throw it aside.

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Because the embodiments of this ideal, the National Socialist
state and its leaders, have usedtheir powers wrongly and even
criminally. And because as a result of this
failure and misdirection, his world has collapsed and the
entire German and people have been plunged for decades into
untold misery. I, at least cannot.
It's just circles. Yeah.

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Basically what I mean by this isthat he was indoctrinated.
Really. While some of the upper echelon
like Himmler had folded in the waning days of the Fairmark, he
stood constant because he absolutely, without a doubt,
100% believed it. He believed in it like the sky
is blue and the grass is green. Matter of fact of belief.
Yeah. Sounds like he does.

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And that's really like, they didso good at brainwashing, homie,
which I mean, it takes 2 to tango in that regard.
You have to be receptive to brainwashing.
But he's so brainwashed that that it ended up being a weapon
they got used against them. Right.
With that indoctrination, I guess embarrassment isn't a
thing. So it was a huge dismay to

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Goering and Has and the rest of the Nazis in the defendants box
when an affidavit written by Host is introduced by the
prosecution. Here's a portion of that
affidavit read by Colonel John Amin with Rudy's response.
Amin said the final solution of the Jewish question meant the
complete extermination of all Jews in Europe.

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I was ordered to establish extermination facilities in
Auschwitz in June 1941. At that time there were already
in the general government three other extermination champs.
Spell check Treblinka and we'll check.
These camps were under the Aidsat's commando and the
security police and SDI visited Treblinka to see how they

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carried out their exterminations.
The camp commandant at Treblinkatold me that they had liquidated
80,000 in the course of 1/2 year.
He was principally concerned with liquidating all the Jews
from the Warsaw Ghetto. He used monoxide gas, and I did
not think that his methods were very efficient.
So when I set up the extermination building in
Auschwitz, I used Cyclone B, which was crystallized prussic

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acid, which we dropped into the death chamber.
From a small opening, it took three to 15 minutes to kill the
people in the death chamber, depending upon climatic
conditions. We knew when the people were
dead because they're screaming stopped.
We usually waited about 1/2 hourbefore we open the doors and
remove the bodies. After the bodies were removed,
our special commandos took off the rings and extracted the gold

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teeth from the the gold from theteeth of the corpses.
Is that true and correct? Witness?
Host goes yes. With that yes, they concluded
cross examination. Goring was stirring around,
almost shocked that Host would divulge the orders of the Fiero.
Well, look. He took off and left us here to
answer for all this. So and.

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He took a quick way out. OK, my little.
Vial poison broken. I can't thank you.
Eventually his testimony would be one of the many that help
find these Nazis guilty before crimes and their statements to
the courts. They seem to have a steal
confidence in their actions withHess, which was another Rudolph,
which was like there's like there's a lot of confusion like

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if you do Rudolph hosts and you Google that they're going to
pull off Rudolph Hess, which is a hired Nazi more famous, but
also was on trial. See, they said to the court,
even if I could, I would not want to erase this period of
time for my history. I'm happy to know that I have
done my duty as a loyal followerto my fever.

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I regret nothing. 10 defendants would be sent to death,
including Guardian and Colton Bruner.
Those who were sentenced to die were hung at 1:00 AM on October
16th, 1946. They chose the standard drop
hanging method, but the trap door was a tad too small.
So many of the executed sufferedfacial damages and nobody really

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cares. No, it's just a little something
for you to enjoy, you know what I mean?
I did look up standard drop, which is considered a quote,
humane hanging. The standard drop involves a
drop between 4:00 and 6:00 feet because it was intended to be
enough to break the person's neck, causing immediate
unconsciousness and rapid brain death.
People did move on to the long drop method, which was a

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scientific advance on the standard drop.
Instead of everyone following the same distance in the long
drop method, they use a person'sheight and weight to determine
how much slack would be providedin the rope.
So that the distance dropped would be enough to ensure that
the neck is broken, but not so much of the person would be
decapitated because I happen that has happened in hangings.

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Too much rope and too much forcemakes the head just.
So maybe that's where the sayingcame from.
Give them just enough rope to hang themselves with, yes.
Just probably Jimmy. That's a fun fact.
That sounds like a fun fact. Jimmy's fun facts.
The phrase give them enough ropeto hang themselves means to
allow someone the freedom or opportunity to make their own

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mistakes or to expose their own faults, often leading to their
own downfall. It suggests that by not
intervening and letting someone act on their own, they may
ultimately create a situation that leads to their failure or
self destruction. The expression is often used in
context where a person is deemedto be making poor choices or
behaving irresponsibly, and it implies their actions will

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backfire on that. But I can't lie, I kind of
prefer the association with hanging better.
This also like the way they place the the knot of the news
was so that the head was jerked back as the rope tighten and it
contributed to breaking the neck.
Do you know? What that breaks called no I.
Don't the hangman. 'S.

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There is a break in the neck. Called the hangman's the
hangman. 'S neck break.
I like it. Goering would actually commit
suicide that night with a cyanide pill.
It's believed to have been smuggled in by his wife.
The rest received prison sentences, with just three being
acquitted, but mostly due to deadlocks by the jury.
After discussions with Host during the Nuremberg trial at

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which he testified, American psychologist Gustav Gilbert
wrote the following description of Hosts during his testimony
and all of the discussions. Host is a quite matter of fact
and apathetic, shows some belated interest in the enormity
of his crime, but gives the impression that it never would
have occurred to him if somebodyhadn't have asked him.
There is too much apathy to leave any suggestion of remorse,

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and even the prospect of hangingdoes not unduly stress him.
One gets the general impression of a man who is intellectually
normal but with a schisoid apathy and sensitivity and lack
of empathy. They could hardly be more
extreme and if Frank psychotic, there would be more trials
Eventually and even to this day,people search for the last few
living Nazis to bring in the justice if they're still living.

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As for Rudy, let's follow him tothe next to last stop in his
life, his own trial in May of 1946.
He'd be handed over to the Polish authorities.
He would say that first he was treated well, but then that
changed and they gave him poultry to no rations and that
there was a particular Polish guard who was Jewish that he
said, quote, never tired of beating us.

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I. Think you guys did the same
thing? He waited nearly a year for his
trial, in which the Warsaw Tribunal would go through
everything they had, including his own affidavit.
I would go over it except for the fact it's repeating the
whole damn podcast, and I think we've covered enough there.
We have. We're good.
Thanks. The trial lasted from March 11th
to March 29th, 1947, ending witha guilty verdict in a death

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sentence handed down on April 2nd.
They set the date for two weeks from then on April 16th, and
this is when he finishes up the biography, 114 pages by his
account, with the last few pagesseeming like he was at peace
with what would be happening andfinally taking some
accountability. Got it.
Nailed it. Nailed it.
Quote. A great deal happened in

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Auschwitz which was done ostensibly in my name, under my
authority and all my orders which I never neither knew about
nor sanctioned. But all the things happened at
Auschwitz. And so I am responsible for the
camp regulations and say the camp commandant is fully
responsible for everything that happens in his sphere.
I say some because he farmed about 90% of the responsibility

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to Himmler and the others for the most of the book you're
saying I believe him. At the end he began to speak
about all his near death experiences, from car crashes to
bombings, even the vile poison breaking as signs that he was
meant to die this way. Quote.
On every occasion fate has intervened to save my life so
that at last I might be put to death in a shameful manner.

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How greatly I envy those of my comrades who died a soldiers
death unknowingly. I was a cog in the wheel of the
great extermination machine created by the 3rd Reich.
The machine has been smashed to pieces, the engine is broken and
I too must now be destroyed. The world demands it.
Yes we do. It is.
Yes, yes ma'am, but the last thing he says is, whenever use

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is made of what I've written, I beg that all those passages
relating to my wife and my family and all my tender
emotions and secret doubts shallnot be made public.
Fuck. You but the.
Public continue to regard me as a bloodthirsty beast, the cruel
sadist and the mass murderer. For the masses could never
imagine the combinant of Auschwitz in any other light.
They could never understand thathe too had a heart and that he

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was not evil. Whatever.
So please enjoy every savory moment of his tender words and
secrets. For this man was evil.
He was so evil, he didn't know he was evil so.
Evil he didn't know. The day after his verdict,
former prisoners petitioned the court for the execution to take
place on the grounds of Auschwitz, OH.
Yes, let his ghost spirit haunt there with all them
motherfuckers and I hope they can beat him up in the ghost

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world. It was scheduled for April 14th
but postponed due to the fears of the Ashfaisam residents.
They thought that they would tryto intervene and lynch him.
Still the same fucking result. What?
Why are we stopping this? But anyways, I'd who am I?
You know, maybe it. Was just a little mental
torture. It'll be tomorrow and then
tomorrow comes and it's like we're coming tomorrow.

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So his execution would be the last public execution of a Nazi.
Reason being that apparently people were making a whole ass
affair and bringing their children and then fighting over
pieces of the hangman's rope. Why'd we stop doing that?
Sounds great. Everybody should see this
motherfucker hang. I would take my children.
This what happens. You fuck around and find out and

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then you don't like people just because of what they believe.
Don't be like him. It's a good learning lesson.
Honestly, fuck around. Find out needs to be a a very
important lesson people are teaching.
Yes, not just their children, but their spouses, their
parents, exactly their relatives.
You'll need to learn this. Not everything is anonymous, OK?
You should. You're gonna have to answer for

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what you say and what you do andthe hate that you put in this
world. Yes.
I was on a Facebook group for Lee City and this lady was
talking some trash about like immigrants or this or that and
she was like blatant like racisthim.
She was like him, yeah. Pretty much.

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And so I looked at her profile and I realized she has a
business. So I was like, she was talking
about anybody could look up and see what you voted for in the
last election and this and that and like all about this voter
suppression. And I was like, and just like
anybody could look at your Facebook profile and learn that
you have a business and know which pest control business not

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to fucking use. She deleted everything she
wrote, I bet. So through that whole fucking
thread. Oh, I bet so.
But bitch, we got screenshots. We got receipts.
Don't write checks with your mouth that your reputation can't
cash, baby, because now. I need to find out.
We need to get our house sprayed.
The mosquitoes are bad, so let me know who not to use got.

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You boom, got you fam. Let's see.
They kept his execution low key with about 100 people showing up
that morning, which were mostly Polish officials and victims of
the KL system. He would be brought to
Auschwitz, told his that he toured his old office and drank
a cup of coffee before being stored in the infamous Block 11

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German PO WS built the gallows right next to the one of the
crematoriums. At 10 AM he was brought out and
placed on the trap door. After being read his sentence at
ten O 8 he was dropped as a priest spoke a prayer for the
doctor. Let me pause.
You said the gallows were built by the POW's.
By German POW being. Jews or No, no, no.

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No, no, the German like the German soldiers and poetic.
Justice. If the surviving Jews got to
build that for to go watch them all get hung and it tortured
them and killed their family, God, that would have been great.
Well, they were there at least to watch it.
OK. I wish they would have been able
to build it, but whatever. By 10/21 he was pronounced dead.

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It is entirely possible that German PO WS were the
executioners or at least the ones who open the trap door.
And if you recall that I when I was talking about the standard
drop hanging, I told you that style because for Rudy they used
the short drop method. The short drop method is the
method of hanging in which the condemned prisoner stands on a
raised support such as a stool, ladder, cart, horse or other

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vehicle, and they kick that. Bitch off of my yes.
Used starting in the biblical times, it's not always 100%
effective as some people survivewhile others die slow deaths.
They often do not have a broken neck leading to prolonged pain
and suffering. So if that gives you any
comfort, he probably suffered, but still a drop in the bucket
of suffering that happened in Auschwitz, that's.

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True what? Happened to his family though.
Well, Bridget would have immigrate to America where she
would be a Balenciaga model. Her mother, who lived in
Stuttgart under a different nameand obscurity beginning in the
60s, would go to America in 19/30/1983 to visit her and died
while visiting Bridget. Sad Klaus, the oldest son, died

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in Australia in the 80s from chronic alcohol abuse.
Heidi in 2020, Bridget in 2023. Both died from cancer.
Being the first of the host children to speak out, she's
quite fucking vocal with the fewinterviews of her.
Here's another quote. Did she?
Did she say he didn't do nothingwrong?

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He was just at home being a goodboy?
Oh. Though it's better it's quote
the Nazis always get bad press and no one else does.
Not true, but OK. What?
It means Hans and Enigret are still alive.
Enigret was born in Auschwitz and just a baby, so only Hans
has memory of it, but he was 3 when he moved in Auschwitz and

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six when they left. Hans got married, had kids, then
divorced and remarried and that's when he became a
Jehovah's Witness, which is veryinteresting when I recall how
Rudy viewed them because they hated Jehovah's Witnesses.
Like the number, the number one.I mean, I'm.
Not a fan of the knock on my door, but I don't dislike them.
Yeah. I'm not.
I'm not into a death camp situation.

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Just keep your hands off my door, yeah?
Out my yard. Get out of here.
Get on my grass, get off my. Lawn.
Hans has two sons, Klaus and Kai.
Kai is a preacher who has largely remained out of the
public eye but did appear in thecombinant shadow and by all
accounts he's the complete opposite of his grandfather.

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Rainier, which is the younger brother, is said by Kai to be
the curse on our family because of her grandfather's crimes.
He has been arrested for defrauding investors and
Holocaust victims alike as recently as 2020 hold.
On. Hold on back up.
Read that to me one more time. So he has two sons just.
About the Rainier, he's gotten all the bad luck from what his

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dad did, no? Kai is to be is Rainier is said
by Kai to be the curse on their family because of their
grandfather's crime. OK, I thought.
Saying he was cursed for him andI'm like defrauding Holocaust
survivor sounds like it's to be your own doing.
No. Curse that's hanging out.
He actually even sold his and Kai's mother's home and stuck

(55:49):
her in a retirement home and pocketed the proceeds.
Well, they're all fucking evil. They share his blood, so
whatever, right? Regardless, Kai has been far
more vocal recently, one, against his brother as he is
ashamed of what he has done to the other victims, and two, to
educate people. He's the one that's a preacher
now, right? So he's the only good one?
Yep. And he lives in Germany.

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He's married to a woman of Asiandescent.
I'm. I remember if she was Filipino,
I'm not exactly sure. Their kids speak like, 4
languages. Oh, wow.
I mean, their lives are beautiful comparatively.
Like, yeah. It's what making the right
decisions puts you at, you know?Yeah.

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Showing us not always how you'reraised, you can do something
different. Rudy wrote his wife and children
letters prior to his death and then this one particular portion
directed to his oldest son to meshows that he possibly did have
some remorse in the waning hoursof his life that he did not wish
this path for his children. Quote Keep your good heart.

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Become a person who lets himselfbe guided primarily by warmth
and humanity. Learn to think and judge for
yourself. Responsibility responsibly.
Don't accept everything without criticism and as absolutely
true. The biggest mistake in my life
was that I believed everything faithfully, which came from the
top, and I didn't dare to have the least bit of doubt about the

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truth of that which was presented to me.
And all your undertakings, don'tlet your mind speak, but listen
above all to the voice in your heart.
And it's crazy that he said that.
Like at the end he's like, yeah,yeah, I was AI listened and I
should not have. Yeah.
I put myself. It's like.

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Me. It's like me in that old jail.
I put myself in a room ready to be murdered, and I was just
lucky that they really did work for them.
You know, when I say remorse, I feel like he takes only that
small slice of responsibility that he should have bucked
orders not much more. So please don't think he was

(57:58):
running into Mr. Rogers, though.Oh.
Yeah, no, yeah. Trust me, we don't.
That's the only lesson to never trust implicitly make your own
decisions and do so responsibly besides the bat.
Besides that, the best lesson isdon't be a fucking Nazi.
The end. Good fucking riddance.
Preach. And that's it guys.
We. Finished that shit.

(58:19):
We finished it terrible. It's important to know those
things and keep us educated so we don't repeat the past.
But oh, that was painful, boy. But are we repeating it right
now, if ever? Let's not even get into that.
No, but like I said at the beginning of the top of the
series, even though it feels like we are repeating it, we are

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different people than they were then.
We have different advantages, wehave different education, and we
have the ability to change that future.
So keep that empathy in your heart, yes, don't be a nausea on
your deathbed going like I should have been nicer.
Well, hell licks that your asshole.
OK, Just waiting. To get that bitch.
So now that we're done with that, don't forget to find us on

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Go watch those. It's it's fun because Jimmy is
he's. Smart and he's adorable and he's
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But he doesn't like when you when people first meet him, he
looks so serious, he's so quiet,and then you realize he's this

(59:26):
huge goofball. See, when I first meet Jimmy, he
looks scared and like Jennifer beats him and locks him in a
closet. I mean.
I do beat him. I mean, no wait, I don't.
This is not recorded. Whoops, just kidding, it's
another. Turpin family.
I'm just kidding. Oh my God that got ugly.
I am awful at jokes guys. OK, I will never people are

(59:47):
sorry. You're braid at them.
They're hilarious. Why don't you?
Comedian because I say some off the cuff shit sometimes that I
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Stay safe, keep your hand. On a swivel, don't.
Bring it so close to home that you bring home trinkets you're
ripped out of people you killed's mouth and give them to
your children. Yeah.
Not a cool fam. Don't do that.
It's not nice. Be tolerant.
Yes, fuck around, find out, but even be.
Tolerant. Be acceptable.
Accept it. Accept people.
Yeah, accept people. There you go.
Tolerant. I don't like that word.

(01:00:29):
Accept them. Yeah, that makes a good point.
Tolerate me sounds like it sounds like it's I have to.
Yeah, No welcome, Yes. Become.
That's right. Bye, He's going to get cabaret.
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