TOOTPod: The Other Other Theatre Podcast

TOOTPod: The Other Other Theatre Podcast

Hosts Joel and Erin talk to theatre professionals and lead a no-holds-barred discussion of the state of the arts in the California Bay Area.


August 23, 2020 68 mins

RECORDED: 8/20/2020

While Erin is off doing reconnaissance for a possible Crystal Pepsi resurgence, Joel lone-guns it with Meg Honey, a Humanities Curriculum Specialist/dramaturg/educator/moderator (and life-long resident of Walnut Creek, California) who has recently formed the non-profit organization Rise Up Against Racism Walnut Creek (

Topics include: the importance of art (and su...

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Joel and Erin sit down with director/teaching artist/actor Salim Razawi to discuss his new organization for youth theatre education--T.E.A.M. Theatre--and the state of the arts in the Bay Area.

Topics include: growing up as an Afghani student in a post-9/11 world; the Living Document of BIPOC Experiences in the Bay Area (and the attacks on the person who created the document); the most "important" shows in which...

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RECORDED: 7/14/2020

Rodney Earl Jackson, Jr. and Marcelo Javier are two lifelong friends who formed the critically-and-audience-acclaimed SFBATCO (San Francisco Bay Area Theatre Company). In this episode, they join Joel and Erin to discuss the mission of their company and the state of the arts.

Topics include: performative allyship; "collective amnesia" and "white savior bullsh*t"; Broadway (a...

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RECORDED: 6/2/2020

TheatreFirst is a theatre company and social justice organization that has fought for equitable representation in all aspects of theatre production and performance, as well as hourly wages for actors and payment for attending callbacks. Joel and Erin talk with TheatreFirst's casting director Stephanie Prentice about these "wacky" notions. 

Other topics include: what a casting dire...

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Recorded on June 1st, 2020 (the day Washington D.C. police threw tear gas at protesters to clear the way for the President's photo op), Joel and Erin sit down with a first-ever repeat visit with their first-ever guest, friend and actor LaMont Ridgell. 

Topics include: false claims of Black Lives Matter solidarity from theatre companies; the possibility of Bay Area "woke"-ness in a post-pandemic and protest w...

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June 1, 2020 68 mins

RECORDED: 5/14/2020

NOTE: This was recorded on May 14th, 2020. Therefore, this episode is lighter in tone and topic than the ones to follow.

After a not-so-hot-so interview a few months back, Joel and Erin once again try to elicit some sense out of Production Manager/Technical Director Henry Perkins. Topics include: how Mormonism led Henry to theatre; getting furloughed in the time of coronavirus; injuries in the...

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May 14, 2020 57 mins

RECORDED: 4/30/2020

In their tenth episode, the boys sit down for the first time with San Francisco Chronicle theatre critic Lily Janiak. Topics include: how a theatre major becomes a critic; tempering a rage-filled theatre experience for print; a critic's favorite critics, writers, and quotes; how artists and patrons respond to criticism; a warning to theatre companies about streaming; and a self-described "Poll...

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Suzie Shepard, Town Hall Theatre Company's Community Engagement Specialist, drops by virtually to discuss the nature of optimism in a dark time for the arts. Topics include: what the hell a Community Engagement Specialist does; seeing and being seen; how successful Town Hall Theatre's first streaming performance fared; some reasons behind the closing of a long-running Bay Area theatre company; and what we'll all be g...

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April 27, 2020 55 mins

Joel and Erin chat (and un-apologetically geek out) with Theatre Bay Area Award-winning director Danny Cozart virtually to discuss the past, present, and future of Bay Area theatre. Topics include: the virtues of honesty onstage and off; the sting of cancelling a show two days prior to opening; the Nazis in Austria; Legos; the strange circle of Urinetown; leaping from off-kilter to mainstream; and whether or not Danny would pay to ...

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Special guest Danny Cozart had only seen "Iron Man" and "Iron Man 2" before the quarantine began. With the shelter-in-place in effect, Danny binged the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe to date...with some strong feelings. Joel, Erin, and Danny give their opinions on the best (and worst) offerings of this saga in this way-too-geeky-even-for-a-theatre-podcast bonus half-hour segment.

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April 15, 2020 64 mins

RECORDED: 4/13/2020

In this episode, Joel and Erin have their first socially-distant guest in director, choreographer, and teacher Christina Lazo, who had five different projects postponed or shuttered due to the coronavirus. Topics include: the different stages of grief in different stages of theatre cancellations; what sets the Bay Area theatre scene apart from everywhere else; the challenges of being someone else's...

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RECORDED: 4/6/2020

In this first SIP episode, Joel and Erin reconnect for the first time in weeks, and brutally dissect the present and future. Topics include: the guilt and shame of not being productive in a time of productivity; the varying degrees of relationships under varying degrees of duress in a time of quarantine; ways to stay busy and focused (and at least mildly sane); the present state of theatre, and non-educa...

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February 27, 2020 57 mins

RECORDED: 2/23/20

In this episode, the boys talk to Taylor Bartolucci, Artistic Director and co-founder of Lucky Penny Productions in Napa. Topics include: the juggle of career, other career, and family; the responsibility of being "the only game in town"; the thin line between passion and insanity; the threat of (what else) AB5; the sin of wasting actors' time; and advice for nerves in the audition room. 

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RECORDED: 2/16/20

In this episode, Joel and Erin sit with actor and playwright Michael Patrick Gaffney to discuss the possible correlation between addiction, alcoholism, and the arts. Other topics include: the Gaffney family bar; parents and kids; and Michael's dish on his 2020 Vanity Fair Oscar party gig in his other profession--as "the oldest living cater waiter". 

EDITOR: Joel Roster

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February 7, 2020 60 mins

RECORDED: 1/29/20

Joel and Erin sit down for a first-time conversation with Mercury News critic, author, and playwright Sam Hurwitt. Topics include: the fate of Bay Area journalists under AB5; approaches in reviewing the same play or musical over and over (and over); the surge of theatre company closures (and why); how being a critic might affect interpersonal relationships; what excites Sam about the future of theatre in ...

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January 30, 2020 62 mins

RECORDED: 1/29/20

In the second episode, Joel and Erin talk to vibrant director, actor, make-up artist, and designer Lexie Lazear. Topics of discussion include: methods of directing a play you may not like; art vs. commerce; sexual predators currently on Broadway (and elsewhere); self-advocates; mistakes actors make in the audition room; Lexie's vision for a classic musical; a new beginning in Bay Area theatre; and th...

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January 23, 2020 65 mins

RECORDED: 1/15/2020
In the debut episode of The Other Other Theatre Podcast, hosts Joel Roster and Erin Gould have a no-holds-barred discussion of theatre and the arts with Bay Area actor LaMont Ridgell as their special guest. Topics include the California AB5 law (and the reaction to that law), racism in the arts in both Minnesota and California, the "wokeness" of the Bay Area, how "Cats" saved "The Ri...

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