#93- MELINDA LESLIE: HUGE UFO FLAP HAPPENING NOW IN SEDONA, AZ?!? Melinda Breaks The News Of UFO activity "All over the place"

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Alday seasons to everyone on the spreeat ARC. Yes, is Melinda Leslie
hi there? Thanks for having me. Yeah, No, I'm excited.

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This is a show that I've beentrying to get under my belt for a
while now. As you know,I've been pestering you for some time.
I'm glad that I'm glad that mypersistency paid off on this one. Well,
and this may be a little differentkind of show than whatever you originally
intended to cover with me, butI have. I have a kind of

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a story to drop some information.Yeah, that's what I find. That's
why I switched, because I didso for everyone who is watching or will
be watching or listening. So theoriginal Skeptic was going to be that to
release a Dindall what air as episodeninety two. That has now changed and

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I'm going to drop this episode withMelinda as it is kind of like she
said, she has some information totell us and it pertains to what the
U of PHO whistle Lewis are talkingabout and what is going on in Congress
and with Dave Brush and all that. So before we get into that,
Londa, I want to talk aboutyour origins, in that moment of conversion

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in your life where this became thepath that you went down, you know,
and you didn't become an astronaut,you didn't become a politician for lack
of manator, it becomes a food. Why to talk about the origin story?

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Well, it's a long story.And rather than take too much time,
because I really have a lot toshare with you today. In nineteen
eighty nine, see, I hadbeen involved in paranormal things, metaphysics and
paranormal research and studies since I wasa kid, but very hardcore since I

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was in high school. And innineteen eighty nine, I took a last
minute of fluke of a trip Alot of people listening have probably heard this
out to Area fifty one in Nevadawith some friends right when the Bob was
our story was breaking, and hadabsolutely incredible sightings UFO sciyens and met researchers

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out there on. I took threeback to trips in the fall of nineteen
eighty nine. I was living insouthern California at the time. I'm now
in Sedona, Arizona, and inliving in southern California, so you know,
drive to Vegas and now to fiftyone and had amazing sighting. So
I again not wanting to take alot of time, but also something about

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having all those sightings was concerting akey in turning it because I started to
have memories come forward of childhood,teenage, and young adult abduction experiences.
And then I had new experiences,including roommates of mine at the time witnessing
things happening to me and my selfdriving with two friends on a mountain road

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and the three of us getting takentogether from the car So between my memory
experiences, what my roommates were witnessinghappening to me, and then being taken
while driving with some friends. Youknow, that all added up to my
what I call my expiration of myabduction experiences and be and me on that
path to doing et abduction research andmeeting other people and kind of going down

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that road and then somewhere along theway not well, actually that's starting late
eighty nine, early ninety and inthe early nineties I suddenly had two unique
different kinds of experiences both actually ninetythree, nineteen ninety three, I'm having
born. It makes me feel Iwas working at world already and you know,

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it's all good, it's all good, and it's all good, and
and that I can't imagine, like, you know, being into uphology and
not being there for the whole youknow, beginning of alsam. Sorry,
that's crazy, and so I hereI could adjust this because I say it's

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cutting off. So I uh,that began everything. And then I had
some new experiences which were what werereferred to as millbm IL for military and
ab for abduction. I was becameof interest to covert human agencies because of
my E T abduction experiences, andthat started me investigating all that, realizing,

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you know, coming to terms withwhat happened to me and what was
happening to me and as well asother people, and meeting other people that
had had that happen. So thatbegan that whole investigation and there we go.
So that's kind of the beginning ofhow I got into the UFO subject.

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And so I've been in it nowfor thirty five years, you know,
a long time, and through alot of changes in it, gone
to a lot of fantastic conferences,followed all the big name researchers, became
very good friends with a great dealof them. And uh and I'm you
know, I'm blessed by what thishas meant to me. It's certainly my

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involvement in the field has helped mewith my own personal experiences and then eventually
led to my being here in Sedona, Arizona, because I moved here thirteen
years ago to start these UFO sidingtours that I do with military night vision
goggles. After Ed Grimsly in northernCalifornia who turned everybody on to seeing craft

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with night vision, I was oneof those early people who turned onto it,
and and then realized okay, youknow, and and then had the
idea to start a business here.I'd come to Sedona on an office the
early eighties and always wanted to livehere, and so everything lined up and
here I am to make that possiblefor me. Well, big Sedonah.

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And I want to touch on acouple of things here because I don't want
to I don't lose them. Sofirst thing I want to talk about is
my lab. Now, for anyonewho's listening who's not familiar with what that
is, and you go into alitle bit of detail, not too much,

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but yes, certainly I can.It's extreme, Yes I can.
It's extremely complicated, and if someone'snew to it, it's a learning curve
to understand it. But it isvery important. Basically in a nutshell millab
ism IL for military ab for abduction. It was coined by Kat Wilson,

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a well known abduct tee who wrotea book called Alien Jigsaw and worked with
a couple of the leading abduction researchers, and she said, gosh, it's
like I'm being abducted also by themilitary as well as by aliens and having
this harassment and the surveillance stuff happened, and so she came up with that

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acronym because you know, at thetime nineties everything was acronyms and the field
kind of still is. And soshe said, you know, so she
came up with the term mill EABand and that you know, sorry,
I'm just stiff today, so I'mtrying to stretch here, stretch it out.

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You needed to pop, that'd begood anyway. So, you know,
just just came up that term asa way to explain what was happened
to her. And and then HelmetLammer and his wife, Marian, Austrian
researchers wrote a book called Millabs thatasked her if she if they could use
the name for their book, andshe said, sure, I don't own

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it. I just you know,came up with it as quickly to deride
what was happening to me. Yeah, you got it. So so there
we go. So that began wherethe background was on that and it in
a nutshell, it just means extraterrestrialabductees who then get targeted by humor in
agencies, you know, like theyhave harassment and surveillance monitoring, they get

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befriended by insiders and then they mayhave an experience that has covert humans involved,
and that can be you know,military or subcontractors or intelligence community or
all the above. Okay, sowe've been hearing more stories about stuff like

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that, So that's very interesting,Like so covert I mean, even a
storm just broke from Christopher Sharp ofthe UK where the CIA is great article.
Yeah, so there's a c greatarticles. Yea. The allegations are

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that they've been at least nine programs. I mean, what do you think
of that? That's what I mean. Okay, Now, if you if
you'll let me get into what I'mhere to talk about, it'll go to
that and beyond that. Okay,that's that's directly related. Okay, that's
fine. I mean, I'll answeryour questions, follow your lead. But

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I know, you know, you'reasking me things that can take so much
time to really address, and youknow, and I'd be happy to come
back and do another show addressing someof those things in depth, you know,
But there's something going on right nowthat I'm involved in. That's a
big deal. Now many of youmay have heard. So for instance,
yes, there is that article thatyou just mentioned. Amazing well done by

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Christopher Sharp and I forget Josh's lastname and Matt Ford work together on that,
and if people haven't read it,it's required reading in the field right
now, there's a lot of requiredlistening and required reading. Because the other
required thing besides that is to listento Danny shan on some of his recent

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interviews in the last two days,either with Matt Ford of uh A Good
Trouble Show exactly, thank you theGood Trouble Show, and or maybe with
James Y and Doley on on Engagingthe phenomenon. So either of those I
highly recommend listening to. He didthose both yesterday and night before last.

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Before he was on those, DanielSheen is a very good friend of mine,
and I was on attorney Daniel Sheen, and I was on the phone
with him for I think it wasover two hours, and so please listen
to those. But I was onthe phone with him because I had been
he we're very good friends, andI had been informing him a little bit

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about some stuff going on here inSedona and its significance right now and it
and in the I had last talkedto him about it probably three weeks ago,
and so I really needed to updateand date update him on where it
had gone right and so long storyshort. So what I'm going to do

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here is is I'm going to firstexplain why what I'm about to say matters,
and then I'll and then I willgive everybody you know, the roadmap
to get you there, so youunderstand why it matters. And you know,
the road map is how I gotto there, and by the end
of the show you'll understand that.And then also what it says about the

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witnesses, And you brought that upin introducing me. The insider witnesses coming
forward, I am seeing myself andothers who are investigating this I'm now working
with a team here in Sedona,realize that what we're experiencing right now is

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proving the witness is in spades.And you said, oh, you know,
like the article said, nine crashretrievals, you got what we're witnessing
suggest something so much bigger, somuch deeper, such a bigger rabbit hole,
and the implications are so staggering thatthis is a much much bigger story
than pretty much anyone in eupology realizes. And I think they're regarding to you

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because of the pushback with the uapDA, the uap Disclosure Amendment and et
cetera, et cetera. But soI am, me and other people right
now as a team are witnessing stuffhappening here in Sedona that proves Grush and

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these other witnesses. It proves themin spades. And we're seeing it every
night for sixty five nights. Yeah, when you told me the numbers,
now I always and this is whatI want to go back to. Is
Sedona. Sedona? The place isrich in history. It is who I

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believe that's the home of Devil's Tourright, No, no, no,
Devil's Tower is is Wyoming. That'sWyoming' sorry? What is the what's the
place? We have a lot ofbig red rock formations here that are known
as artices, war Texas or dises, places of energy, and Sedona is

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always kind of thought of, asyou know, if you will, mecca
for new agers, you know,and the energy, but it's it's also
an outdoor hiking and outdoor you know, sports enthusiasts, and an artistic community
and a film community, and youknow, so it's known for a bunch
of things. But that that's funny. You should bring up the history,

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because that was one of the thingsI absolutely wanted to start with. But
before I get to that, likeI said, it proves the witnesses,
it proves. So that's why everythingI'm about to say for the show matters,
because it not only backs up andproves all these witnesses, it's absolutely
correct. And you know what Iknow, curse, you know, grush.

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But I'm also going into what Iknow the other ones are talking about
with with crash review, crash retrievals, and reverse engineering programs. It proves
that article you know about the CIA'sin movement correct, you know, and
the existence of underground bases, becausewe'll get into that. And then also

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why so much pushback from these companiesinvolved, Because I found some evidence implicating
one of these companies directly into whatI'm investigating. I mean, someone else
kind of clued me into a possibility, and I looked into it and spent
some time online and I end up, Oh, I meant to send you.
I may try to send it toyou a messenger before the end of

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the show. Maybe you can ifyou can put up images. Are you
able to do that? Yeah?Me through like Twitter? Okay, And
I can pull it. I canpull it right now, okay, yeah,
yeah, Like is it better totwitter DM or messenger on Twitter?
Because on this I don't I'm notlogged into Facebook. Okay, okay,

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So anyway, so I'll see ifI can do that for you, but
uh, in a little while orif I don't know, if we take
a break or notever, I coulddo it if there's a break, but
if not, I'll just you know, take a moment do it. Okay,
So it just you guys, likeyou know, time, I'm always

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like, oh yeah, I'll doall the stuff beforehand, and then I
get phone call, phone golf,phone call, and time goes, yeah,
why shouldn't they be different than anyother you know? So suddenly it's
like okay, you know, nevermind, Okay, now, so there
you go. And then so let'swith that note, I'll go into some
history because there's some background information neededfor this, Okay, I'll say,

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because everyone's like, well, whatare you witnessing? I'm sure they're thinking
that right now. So I'll talkabout that briefly and then we'll go back
to it because more can be said. But what started happening at the end
of my tours that normally back inthe end of September ended it eight thirty

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a lot of stories, well actuallymore like nine, and I had clients
out with me at our regular viewingspot the other end of town where we're
kind of up on a hill witha wide view in all directions, and

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I think we stayed a little lateor something started to happen regarding seeing a
lot of military aircraft swarming out overour hills and realizing that was not normal
at all, and now that itmay have started. We first started noticing

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this on September twenty seventh, andthis may have started before September twenty seventh.
I'm just saying that's when we wereout a little later and we're catching
something that start at like nine pointthirty, and okay, and so we're
seeing now at the time uncertain.We definitely had military jets going over us

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circling many more than usual, butthen some possible helicopters. Now that I
can say, in sixty five days, I personally have witnessed what I'm about
to describe. At least forty fivenights out of sixty five there were it's
a handful of cloudy nights that wedidn't do this, and or raining,

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and then there was six days ina row where we went to see it
and nothing happened, sort of sixdays of not happening. So but on
the seventh day it was off thehook and even more than it had been
previously. So what we started tosee the end of September September twenty seventh
is the military coming in and swarming. And then we started to see things

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that we would normally see on mytour. Objects come in up in the
sky, come down so UAP orUFO coming in and doing what we've always
called a power up, which isthey get a big they turn into a
great big light like they get brighter. Okay, Now, often what we'll
see if you take the goggles down, because we're military night vision goggles and

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if they're bright enough, you cantake the goggles down. And I always
tell my clients on my tours abouta third what we're gonna see you can
see with your own eyes, youknow. The other two thirds are higher
up, dimmer. That's where thebeauty of the night vision comes in.
But in this case, you know, so these were powering up, clearly
visible to the naked eye. Whenthey did so. And I've taken out
many physicists and plasma physicists on mytour. A handful of plasma physicists have

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gone into the most detail about whatI'm about to say, which is that
these things will get really bright towe call a power up and they'll become
an amber light. Amber means anythinggold, orange, or red like the
color amber. And then I'm toldby these same experts, plasma physicists,

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then in the lab it's like fiftytimes more power I have to get the
red, you can get blue,and then another fifty times more power you
can get green. So we getamber light normally. In all my years
thirteen years of doing these tours,and it's worth telling everyone just they can
I ge how much that is mylast tour. I've had a couple of
nights real cloudy, but my lasttour was tour one thousand, seven hundred

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and fifty eight. Wow, I'vedone it one thousand, seven hundred and
fifty eight tours. And so you'regonna county, You're gonna take You're gonna
take me on a tour. We'lltalk about that, but you yeah,
and I have to like you,so we'll talk after the show. Sure,

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I'm opacitating, so sure. Bythe way, this power up this
has been documented by guys like StephenBreer with the SEI initiative. I can't
say that I'm like super supportive ofStephen Breer, but I think I think
all of us need to be inthis together. Well, you know,
everything from off the sightings that ChrisBledsoe is having, in the sightings that

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James gill Land to gill On Ranchis having. You know, all these
people are saying they're powering up reps. Were these big amber lights visible to
the you know, naked eye,And it was these plasma physicists who said,
what you're getting is something bleeding somuch energy it's ionizing the air around

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it. That ionization is called electricalplasma. So when you see amber and
a siding, you're seeing ionized airof something bleeding a huge energy field.
And plasma physicists coming on my tourhave even said they can't imagine how big
of an energy source that would be. That it would be, you know,

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it would be visible at that distance, at any altitude or any distance
from you, and yet and yethere, you know, we've seen this
repeatedly on my tours. But what'sso significant about the activity I'm talking about
now? So going back to notonly were we start to see so many
military gather in the area, andnow from doing so many of these,

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from doing you know, all mytours one thy, seven hundred and you
know fifty eight that we've become verygood about denoting like And I've had a
lot of aircraft experts come out withme in pilots and whatnot, a lot
a lot over the years to notonly hear their accounts, but also when

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they come out with me, Ilearned from them. So double and triple
blink patterns are usually military, andwe kept seeing all these ones with what
I would call a triple blink patternlike blinklink blink blinklink blink blinklink link like
that. And see, well,no, no, we normally see them
on my tour. But it's normally, like I tell my clients, we're

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not as the crow flies were onlyan hour and a half from Phoenix and
outside about it, as the crowflies outside of Phoenix's Luke Air Force Space
and there's another for space always forgettingits name outside of the Tucson area,
And so we get a lot ofmilitary coming in and patrolling the area ever
since patrit Act nine to eleven,right, so we have a lot of

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military, and so that's normal tosee military. That's that's what I'm saying.
We know on the tour when we'reseeing them, we see them all
the time. But you know,to see twenty in an hour might be
over the whole area, all ofbecause we're sharing the same sky, you

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know, with Sedona, Cottonwood,Prescott on the air side of the hill,
Flagstaff up the hill. You know, so every all these other ones
are within forty five minutes or lessof us. And then Cottonwood's just down
the hill from where I have myclients, and and Clarkdale and whatnot,
and you know, so yeah,of the area, Okay, just to

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show people love if these no Phoenix, I mean, where's uh Sedona on
there? It does even there's Williams. I see that. So Sedona is
between those. So Sidonia is notin regular air space. The only reason
I brought that up, and thereason I brought that up is is okay,

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that's good. Yeah, mat ofthe area and if you consume it.
Okay. Again, the only reasonI brought that up was to say,
we've become very good at seeing whenthere's military aircraft, and yes they
do fly over us often, butnot out over the hills. Now,
what's significant about where those hills areis that is where we have a dumb,

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deep underground military base. There isnow overwhelming evidence for that being there,
and it's not what so it's notit's not legitimately cons Yeah, I
mean deep underground military bases are highlysecret. They're not announced, and people

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don't know where they are other thana variety of research and insiders and whatnot.
So yes, I mean the youknow, these things are generally not
confirmed. No, Yes, thewhole point is they're trying to mix up
the very hidden you know. Okay, but we have one out here.
Now there's a lot of evidence andsupport of that. Just a couple very

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quick ideas, sorry big, it'sthe idea. And then there's some new
evidence done by a TV show whichI'll get into just a minute. Okay,
So those hills in that area isknown for being immediately over a majority
of this space. This underground baseis before I even moved here. For

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years, local veteran researcher Tom Dongowrote books about it. Linda Bradshaw,
who is the last family member ofthe Bradshaw family at Bradshaw Ranch here in
Sodona, which you'll get into injust a minute. But she would witness
stuff. Okay, they and forinstance, even the owner of the Center

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for New Age. I'm in myoffice there at the center, and so
they am the owner of the centerand others. So I even before coming
here, I had heard about peopleout hiking in our canyons. And you
know, a thousand people can hikethose trails a day, but at least
hundreds, and you can hike itmany times and never have what I'm about

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to say happen. But I hadinterviewed at least twenty twenty twenty five people,
and Tom Dongo so, and whatI'm saying is people out hiking can
get stopped by guys all in blackwith keV larvesk combat boots M sixteen's over

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their shoulder and told you've entered arestricted area and you have to turn around.
Okay. I've interviewed well over twentyI don't have an exact count,
probably twenty five pride pre accurate forthe amount of people I've interviewed. That
have had this happen. A newresearch associated mine a friend of mine,

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a guy and his girlfriend who've beenon my tour. His name is Jeremiah,
her name is Alexandra, who livehere. They've been on my tour
a couple of times, and nowthey're involved because they were already involved in
some of this research with Tom Dongoand another friend of mine named Jurgen,

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and Jurgen had put out a videothat some people have made seen called who
Do Tall? And that's a nicknamethat he has, and so there was
a little documentary that him friend kindof put together and then Tom Dongo,
who's the you know, the ogof research here on the underground base and

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on a brand show ranch. Andso so this area is where people go
out and like I said, they'llget if hiking because everyone goes comes to
Stone number. That's the number onething to do here is get out and
do the scenic beauty. Yes,we have our galleries, we have film
festivals, we have dirt bike festivals, we have music festivals, you know,
the big things like that. Butand shopping and of course the new

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age stuff, the centers, themetaphysical stores and the crystals and all that.
Yeah, it's still number one isto get out and get out on
the trails and do hiking. That'sthe number one thing exactly. People come
here for our scenic beauty. Okay, now again, you can be out
hiking on these trails and not runinto these guys. But if if they

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have one of the entrances or somethinggoing on, you can get stopped by
them. And Tom Dongo's interw likeforty people you know who've been stopped,
and I've interviewed like thirty the ownerof the center, or twenty five the
owner of the centers interviewed like thirty. Jeremiah was telling me he's met other
people. So you know, soevery anyone who's been in town for a

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while starts to hear these stories ofpeople who've been stopped. And sometimes the
guys are on foot that stopped themagain, wearing all black kevlar vest,
combat boots and sixteens over their shouldersonce in a blue moon camouflage, military
camouflage. Once so I have afew cases of that, and so does
their pails. Okay, then no, no, no, higher and they're

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and they're told you're told stop,you've enter a restricted area. And then
sometimes these guys are driving small blackjeeps and I've had people saying, Lunda,
I was on a hiking trail thatisn't big enough for jeep, and
here a jeep came down, youknow, And so it was a hiking
trail not for a jeep. Wasit a jeep trail, you know?

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Or an a TV trail? Sometimesdepend on where you are, they can
pull up in big black SUVs withtinted windows. Right. So there are
a number of stories, and I'veJeremiah knew some new Jeremiah knew some other
news stories I had not heard,and Tom Dongo. So I'm hearing more

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and so at some point I'm goingto be I don't know what we're gonna
do with this information. We're gonnacompile it. I don't know if it's
going to result in in a bookor documentary or a TV show or something.
You know. I would love thecounter I just did. Okay,

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so sorry, so uh frustrating thattime. It threw me out even further.
So I had to go all theway out to go and okay,
so so so going back to whatwe're seeing. So it's there's so much
to cover it's hard to go linearon this, Okay, So before I
get into what we're seeing, I'llgo back to so the the evidence is

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people getting stopped by these guys galore. Okay, that is one major piece
of evidence. Then the TV showBeyond skin Walker. Now everyone's familiar with
the skin Walker TV show. Itwas popular and had a spin off,
So the Skinwalker Rant show on History, and the spin off show is called

(36:29):
yes but arguably arguably is better theguys the main Sure, I love that,
Okay, No, I love Ilove them, and I haven't I
have a relationship with them. Yeah, but I think what we're able to

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do in Beyond Skinwalker is travel tothese places, like yes, that's right,
you know, bypass all the allthe seasons one for three, you
know, trials of the main showand just go right into you know,
probing and and drones and you know, that's right, that's right. So

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yeah, that's why Brad so thatthe the Beyond Skinwalker show did two whole
shows about Bradshaw Ranch. So toclear everybody in Bradshaw Ranches our Skinwalkers in
Utah. Bradshaw Ranch is our versusSkinwalker Skinwalker Ranch in Utah is known for
a lot of paranormal activity. Wellso is Bradshaw Ranch, and Tom Dongo's

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written whole books about that, alongwith Linda Bradshaw, the last Bradshaw owner
to live there. It was takenover from Linda Bradshaw and the Bradshaw family
by the US government by the ForestService, who currently owns it. Now.
Part of it is leased out tothe University of Northern Arizona for doing

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a growing barimot there and the TVshow covered that a little bit on their
show, and it was a cattleranch. I don't know how. I'd
have to ask Tom Igo how longago it goes back, but I know
at least to like the forties andfifties it was a cattle ranch. There

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are famous photos here in town,historic ones before our main highway, Highway
one seventy nine and Highway eighty nineA were going through town are two major
highways, and there's these scenes ofBob Bradshaw Senior doing a cattle drive but

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down a dirt road that you knowwas before the highway, and so there's
these great pictures. Bob Bradshaw wasan expert photographer and known and used because
a lot of the old Hollywood Westernswere filmed here and Bob Bradshaw was the
photograph for four of them. Sothere's a lot of great photos of the
old Hollywood Westerns being made here onthe cast and everything taken very famous taken

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by Bob Bradshaw. There's if yougo into restaurants and businesses in town,
you'll see his pictures or CPA toneversions of his pictures on the wall.
And if you look in the corneryou'll see it says Robert Bradshaw or Bob
Bradshaw. Okay, so so heowned so the Bradshaw family, I should
say, own this ranch. Andthen it became again. I'd have to

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ask Tom Dongo. I don't knowwhat point they really noticed so much paranormal
stuff made. It was always kindof there. But when Linda Bradshaw,
the last family member live on theranch, she was nosing an increased amount
at paranormal activity and had Tom Dongothere to research and investigate and would call

(39:51):
him up when stuff picked up andhe'd go check it out or come spend
the night. That kind of thing, right, Well, the TV show,
knowing that the Bradshaw ranch this richhistory of being another version of Skinwalker.
So of course when they did thisshow, it was, you know,
a primary thing for them to investigate. But when they did the investigation,
there was so much they realized theyhad to have two shows made out

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of it. And Jeremiah my teammember now in this investigation. Now we're
doing one of my team members andAlexandra, we're both on the show.
So if you see the Beyond SkinwalkerTV show, the two shows about Bradshaw
Ranch, part one and part two, you'll see him on both. Okay,

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Now, the TV show set outand the investigators with it, and
one guy was a leading journalist,award winning journalist with a rich history,
I'm sure you, and the otherguy is XCIA, you know, and
then the other team is well known. Skinwalker is well known, and so

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they're kind of like, Okay,so Bradshaw Ranch is known for having us
kernel stuff. It's our version ofSkinwalker. Long story shark. Now,
going back to the TV show gettingthe evidence, so Beyond skin Walker,
we were talking about that and theygot a couple of pieces of significant evidence
about the base being out there andvery good and so one of those they

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had an outside company who does aform of ground penetrating radar, some ground
penetrating technology. I'm not exactly sure. They had them come, yeah,
yeah, yes, exactly. Sothey had them come and they had them

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do a scan that I think endedup being, you know, a couple
hundred yards in length and with kindof thing, and they found because they
had them scan over an area whereit was rumored there was a tunnel for
this underground base. Now just outsideof Sedona, twenty minutes away is Cottonwood,

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the town of Cottonwood. Right nextto Cottonwood is a little town called
Clarkdale, and then above the hillabove that is the town of Jerome,
which is very famous for It haswineries and wine tasting and art galleries,
and it's very historic and it usedto be the silver and Copper mine,

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very famous going back to nineteen before. Ok So, now you pass through
Clarkdale on the road on eighty nineeight going up to Jerome and drones very
popular for tourists, and it's alsovery known for being very haunted and has

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like five famous haunted locations and alot of those ghost hunting TV shows,
in fact, all of them prettymuch have common investigated Jerome, and two
or three of their locations more,you know, more than once. Okay,
okay. So, so just aboveClarkdale is a cement processing plan known

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you know, like digging up andprocessing limestone, cement, gypsum and other
minerals and stuff, okay, andprocessing that It was long rumored that that
was where one of the entrances tothis base was. And Tom Dongo,
in all those years of research againstway prior to my being involved, ended

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up interviewing guys who worked security therewho said, there's a building in the
back that trucks come in in themiddle of the night, has a security
gate in front. It's a bigfacility and has a security gate in front,
and multiple bill things for processing andgrinding and office buildings and everything else.
Okay, trucks would come in atnight in the middle of the night,

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big semi trucks that would go backto this building in the back.
And then the story was that someof these security guys said they'd go back
there and there'd be no truck nearor in the building. They So the
security guys even were telling Tom Dongoover many years of his you know,
thirty years or more forty years,was looking into that that that there must

(44:34):
have been a false floor or something, whether it's like an elevator that goes
down to lower the truck or dipslike this and the truck can drive down
either way. Yeah, yeah,yeah, so it might be the floor
does that or you know whatever.But the security guys claimed to not been
you know, right in or briefedon that, you know whatever. That

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they just said trucks would go backthere and just here and this was known
and apparently happens regularly that these largesemis go back there. So we're talking
about semi semi trucks sixteen wheelers orbiggert No, no, regular semi trucks

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like taking supplies and you know whatever. Down they go to the security gate.
They have clearance to go in.You would need they would need supplies
and stuff like that. Yeah,this is a huge installation. The information
coming out is starting to suggest itmay sprawl like five miles underground. It's

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a huge installation. Yeah, thistunnel, I've I've done the pin drops
on Google Earth from the building whereI think this is, or at least,
you know, even if you justput it in the middle of the
facility. Going to Bradshaw Ranch istwelve miles miles of tunnel. So going
back to the TV show, theydid the scanning and they found this tunnel,

(46:06):
and the owners of the scanning company, we're telling the team from the
investigators. You know, this isfifty foot wide and it goes straight through
here and then the guide. Now, first I thought they took out a
ruler, but no, he actuallyjust had the line showing it's a perfectly
straight line. Continued it straight inboth directions and it goes straight to that

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cement processing client. I'm actually goingto create a marker here. I'm actually
going to overlay that clip right nowfor the viewers who are watching on YouTube
in the future. I'm gonna okay, clip right now because and I can
send you for when before you reputthis up, I'll send you a freeze

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frame image. Now. I triedjust screenshot for the from the TV show
I replayed it. I had othermarkers on my phone trying to save the
screenshot. Long story short on thatyou can't screenshot from TV shows. I
learned that in to hurry the thingsI would put on there came out,

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but the image behind it from theshow was black and everyone I tried like
twenty versions or marked. Okay,So what I did is I did my
pin drops on Google Earth and Irecreated exactly what they had, and then
I rewatched the show to make sureI had it correct, and I do.
So I have that line recreated tomake sure it really match what they

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had, and so I have ascreenshot of that of the line, you
know, going from Bradshaw to theplant and then blow up a where it
is the plant. Now. Afriend of mine in the area, him
and I went on investigation a coupleof days ago to see what we were

(47:59):
seeing, and I put it wascloudy, and so it wasn't fruitful.
It was way too cloudy. Butwe were going up on Minga's Mountain,
which is the mountain where Jerome is, because we wanted to get on a
ridge from there to get a betterview. And we're going to be doing
that again coming up actually tomorrow.But I said, I want to drive

(48:22):
to the entrance the Cement plan.I've seen it many times. I've even
been partially down the road which goesto some houses and stuff down that road.
But I decided I'd drive down tothe gate and there's signs saying turn
around now blah, blah blah.But I said, there's a security gate,
so you know, we can gothat far, you know. And
then I knew from looking Google Earththat there was another driveway that split to

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the left that went to an officebuilding. And sure enough, so I
said, I want to put infront of that office building and take a
picture of it and any signage.But the other night, Now, now
the guys on the show already hadtold Jeremiah, and they didn't include this

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in the show. So when wewatch Beyond skin Walker, they didn't go
go there. You know, theydidn't go there with this, Okay,
but they knew that someone had foundout or told them that that facility even
though it was called the Salt RockProcessing whatever, okay, or so they

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thought that it was actually owned bydrum Roll or Lockheed. Okay, guess
what I got the receipts. Idid the research, Okay, I knew
so much more. Okay, Okay, Yeah, so I have a picture

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and I will give that to youto put up. I took a picture
of the sign because there was arolling gated across that marking a lot for
that back building. So when yougo back there at night, you have
to go straight. The only youknow, you have to go straight to
the security gate and they have tolet you in so and which is manned
all night, okay, And andtrucks come in and out all the time,

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loading this stuff up, bringing itout as far as the the materials,
you know. Okay, So thecompany is actually called and there I
pictured the picture of the sign,it's Martin Marietta Materials. Well, that
should go ding ding ding to anyonewith half a brank, because Martin Marietta
is lockeed Martin. Good, that'swhat locked Martin is locked. Martin bought

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Martin Marriette. Lockheed bought Martin Mariettafrom Glen Martin. There's a whole huge
history mart Yeah, that's Lockheed Martin. It's actually that's Martin Marietta. That's
well known. Okay, that's nota mystery. But this is Martin Mietta
Materials. So I set out todo a bunch of research to determine who

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owns Martin Marrietta Materials. And therewere kind of some dead ends. It
was a little tricky until I cameacross an article that appeared in the Washington
Post about Martina bury out of materialsand about selling off stock and stuff like
that. And Martin Meatair Materials isowned eighty one percent by Lockey Martin,

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eighty one percent by locked Martin.And that's where the entrance, the tunnel
entrance that they take semi trucks into the bases. And and the TV
show proved by having an outside companycome in to say, one hundred percent
certainty, there is a fifty footwide tunnel going under Bradshaw that if you

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that you know, they scanned youknow, only a couple hundred yards of
it or whatever. Okay, theyscan the big piece of it. But
if you continue that perfect line inthat fifty tunnel goes straight two the cement
processing facility owned by eighty by LockeyMartin. That is that is incredible,

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incredible wow wow yeah, yeah,owned by Locky Martin by eighty one percent.
Perrent article all about its ownership thathad appeared in the Washington Post and
other sources too. But I figure, you know, the Washington Post has
gotta vet everything right. They're notgoing to run something like that unless they

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did their homework right, you know, and and not to talk about it
and drop it. No, No, I'm sure it was just they they
had. They have a general audience. They can't get too into too much
minutia. There's still about entertainment,hello, you know, and so they're

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doing a paranormal investigation for entertainment.And I think they kind of I could
tell, like even the Travis Taylorand the other head guy of the main
show when they presented them, becauseon the show they show them going to
the Skinwalker offices and presenting their stuff. To those guys, you could tell
that they were like, oh mygod, okay, because there's more.

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Okay, So there was the tunnel. Then that area is not known for
having any restricted airspace. Now Ihappened to uniquely know because I met a
pilot who'd come on my tours yearsago who had information and provided to me
an old aerial map taken I'd haveto find it again from like the sixties

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or seventies, because he'd been apilot for a very long time, and
he said, once upon a timethat was restricted airspace, and he had
a map showing that it was restrictedairspace from like the you know sixties,
okay, from like the sixties,and but he said, my new maps
of it, because he's still apilot said, don't choke that, okay,

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But the TV show kept sending updrones from different places out to that
area. And I didn't know thisabout drones. I learned this on the
show that apparently if you enter restrictedairspace, military space or near an airport,
they shut down in the backround theytheir GPS location. Yeah, they

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you know that they're not allowed todo that. And it's weird how it
knows, because like it it completelyI have a drone and it completely override.
It's not like it's not like itjust simply like you hit a barrier
and it's like boom, boom boom, and then it turns around. No,

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it takes controlled the drone sends ita signal to go return home,
so it overrides it briefly. Thatyeah, in itself. Well yeah,
Will said, now kept sending indrones to that area to back behind those

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hills, and it would only go, you know, so many hundred yards
or so, and then it wouldturn around and come back to them,
and none of all their drones cameback to them restricted airspace. And when
I say those hills, I meanbranch. A ranch is kind of in
a little valley with hills behind it, and there's what's called Kasner Mountain.
They kept saying secret Mountain. That'sactually a little further back. They kept

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saying, oh that secret moun Mountainon the show, it's actually Kasner.
And then you have and then theypointed the camera and you have Bear Mountains.
You have Barre Mountain, Castor Mountain, but behind Bear Mountain is secret.
So it's all kind of the samemountain range. And then behind Kasner
is is uh uh is this valley. And then to the left of Kasner

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you have a hill called Black Mountain. And between Black Mountain and Kasners this
little valley where Bradshaw is and evenwhere I normally do my tours, we're
a perfect direct shot line of sightless than two miles from Bradshaw Range.
Wow, right, normally would domy tours, okay, And and and

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all we have to do is facethis way and we're facing Castner it turned
a little bit of this wing.We're facing Black Mountain. And then right
between them in that little valley,and it's actually like two little valleys.
One of them is lin Lincoln Canyon. The other one is called Heartwell Heartwell
Canyon. Lincoln Canyon or where Bradshawis. And and then behind all that

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is, behind all those hills isSycamore Canyon and an area called Secret Canyon
and an area no joke called GovernmentCanyon. Yes, we have Secret Canyon
and Government Canyon. No joke.Probably somebody's humor a long time ago.

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And all that was sacred Native Americanland. Okay, there's a whole bunch
of that back there too, Yeah, no more and lore. There's a
lot of evidence for that. Yeah, So and I could get into that.
This team and they are exploring there'spicture boy, that's a whole okay,

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Okay, let me stay on themain topic because we can always talk
about that in the future. Butthere are picture graphs and petroglyss which are
Indian rock card denoting well just I'llsay, and my research associations have taken
pictures. They've already seen this andthey're going to take me and show me.
But they show no joke, youguys, no joke. This area

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is also known for bigfoot they're bigfooting counters. Besides UFO and e T
stuff glory. They have pictures frompetroglyphs that show, first off, we
know these things are extremely old becausethey show saber tooth cats, wooly mammos,
and sloths, all of which havenot been in the area in ten

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thousand years. So that means thatrock art is moren't ten thousand year olds
for those drawings to be as accurateas they are. And then there's pictures
of hope gods that have really reallylike ancient Hope gods that are so these
are also known as hope when mostof the more current Indian stuff, if
you will, in the areas Anasazi, I mean more currently hundreds of years

(58:38):
old as a post to thousands,but the thousand year old stuff gets back
to Hopey stuff. So these areHopey gods. And then there are because
Hope elders and stuff. We'll lookat this and say, there are the
sky beings, the star beings,and the ant people all drawn. Sky
beings came from the sky, starbeings came from the stars, and the

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ant people came up from under theground, and those are all in the
thrones. And then and then there'salso a big, hairy, tall,
wide shouldered creature that you look atit you go to clearly that's big foot.
And then drawings of big feet feetthat are human like like Bigfoot,
but not like the Indians. They'dalso draw their feet in their hands.

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They look like, yeah, theydon't look like. That's very different,
a different thing. And when yousell it says you have the wooly Mamas
and the saber two castle slots therealong with the Bigfoot, you go,
okay, these they were drawing theseas well, like they were drawing what
they saw, you know. Andand so these are in these petroglyphs and

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petrographs back in this area. Nowit's not like we can go to them.
They're very very hard to get to. And you'd have to know.
I've never known, even though Ikind of went looking a little, but
I didn't go deeper far. Andbut these guys have seen them and I
and are going to show them tome. But but just amazing pictures that

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they've taken, just mind blowing.And maybe I can get one of them
to send me a picture that Ican give you to post here see if
I can't. But anyway, soso so so we're going to do an
excursion where we're going to go.We also have I won't go into a

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lot of detail because you know,those being broadcast and whatnot. But there's
a couple of places back in SycamoreCanyon and beyond that people have had very
specific run ins with covert military guysand been stopped by the jeeves, the

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SUVs, people on foot, allthe above, but specific ones where they
saw these people coming up out ofor to go down into the ground.
But so we think we have specificlocations for entrances to the basar and we're
gonna check them out. Okay,And Attorney Daniel Sheen has said, depending

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on the evidence we find, hehas a team, a very professional team
to put together to investigate it.But is asking us to scope it out
first, Yes, and yeah,asking us to scope it out first.
So so we're in the process ofdoing that, we're up against some bad
weather coming to the area. We'regonna have rain, We're gonna start to

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have snow. It may be pushedback to the spring or later in winter,
depending on you know, some yearswe don't get any snow. Some
years last year we had like sevensnowstorms, So that can happen. So
I don't know what, you know, what is going to happen, but

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to spring, because I'll be outthere building my documentary and you will this
this this will take more than onetrip. And once I know where things
are now, of course people getstopped by these guards. Not every time.
People go back into these areas allthe time every day, you know,

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and even these really rustic areas.Now we're doing a trip that takes
four hours just to get out there, four hours back jeeps on very rugged
jeep, very rough jeep, veryvery very rugged jeep, you know,
road climbing and the jeep kind ofstuff. So but but we're gonna do
it. And there's a team beingput together and there we go. So

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that's where that's at to check outthese possible entry locations. There's an intact
Native American cliff dwelling that's intact thatthat's very obscure, takes for hours to
get to, and we're gonna gocheck that out, and we're gonna you
know, and other things. Sobut I'm tomorrow may may be doing a

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little bit, depending on what theweather's like, not going way back there,
but doing some closer stuff around Bradshawwith some people. Tomorrow. We'll
see, I think. So Ithink we're doing it. They actually were
trying to contact me, why I'mon with you. So I'm my phone's
been making all sorts of noises.I have calls and texts and messengers going

(01:03:37):
off, and these people are wondering, what's Melinda doing. You know,
they didn't know I had this goingon. So I got to get back
to them because we might be doingsomething tomorrow. Okay. So but I
did take the picture of the signat the cement processing plant Martin Marry out
of materials and it says uh ClarkdaleQuarry and has the address on the side,

(01:04:00):
and it proof that it's there,you know. And and then I
found the the Washington Post article thathad the most definitive statements about about eighty
one percent of martineted materials is ownedby Lockie Martin. So so I have

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I have that, and I cangive you some of that. And then
so going back to what we're seeing, because people said she never got into
what they were seeing. So we'reseeing stuff come in the sky go down

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like pop in, pop in,like you know, like you UFOs normally
do. Pop in often amber lightssometimes too small, you know, definitely
requiring the night vision to see.But then they start to come in behind
the hills and before they get tothe hills. They do we call a
power up, which is they getbig and bright, and we get that
big amber field that I already talkedabout, which means ionization the air means
something is bleeding such a huge electricalfield. It's ionized in the air.

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Then they go behind the hills,and then we've seen stuff come up from
behind the hills, already powered up, go up into the sky and disappear.
Often. Wow, these are ingroups of twos and threes. Often
not every time, not every timethey're in twos and threes, but often
they are. I mean a lotlike okay, and we are seeing it

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every night at the same time.It takes about an hour from when it
first starts to when it ends.For for a whole month of October,
I would say it all happened withinforty five minutes. For all of October.
It was starting at nine thirty andby ten fifteen would be done.
The earliest I ever saw this activitywas nine twenty and the latest was about
ten twenty. Wow. And soit was between nine thirty ten fifteen pree

(01:05:50):
consistently really like nine forty five toten, really ramping up. Then it
started to move up. Then thenit started to move up half an hour
earlier by the end of October,and then there were six days of nothing,
nothing happening, and I was goingto give up looking, but I

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had clients to asmire them because Iwas telling clients about and the said let's
go, and we went a littlebit closer than my usual spot, and
on day seven it was the mostactivity I'd ever seen there at that time.
And then it happened every night again, and but it changed behind castor
mountain. But yes, yes,yes, we we. I long story

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short, I don't have the equipmentor the abiliting. And people ever came
on my tour and saw me withmy clients, they they're very time consumed.
I can't be worrying about filming whenI'm with them. It's just it's
not like, oh now I canfilm, I'm talking about it. It's
these are tourists, they're families.They take time and energy. They people

(01:06:58):
are lost question. It takes alot of discussion because they have questions.
They go, oh, ufo,we see so many and they go what
about this? This da da daD I mean? And and some of
them are highly knowledgeable and people whowork with satellites and pilots, and you
know, so I have all thesepeople that you know, we're having deep
discussions. Okay, okay, butso yeah, so it just it's so

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consuming. But having it said that, I have had Jay, who's a
member of the team, come andfilm it twice. He works, and
he's has all these other active peoplehave lives. You know. I wish
they could come every night. Theyhave other things going on, you know.
So he came twice and filmed it. My friend Karen, Karen Hill

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with MUF on Tucson, she came, Jay, you're gent tal. Karen
filmed with me once, Urgan twice. And then Ron James of MOUF on
television, who app was also livingin Sadoni. He came once James.
Okay, now, now Ron Jamesonly caught one little thing, but he

(01:08:04):
was filming the same night as Jay. But Jan another night got even better
stuff. So the best stuff wasthe second time that Jay came with me
and the time that Karen came.And and so I welcome anyone listening.
If you're here, you want tocome to doone, you want to film
this, if you want to film, I will take you with me.

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For free. But you got itactivities now I tell people. People are
like, oh, I want Tomup from now, and I'm like,
no, you don't get it.It's happening now, and there were six
days when it stopped. What ifit suddenly stops again. So I'm saying,
you want to do this, dothis now, now now. So
we're seeing things come up from behindthe hills. Lights okay, power up,

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go up in the sky, disappeared, pop in the sky, come
down, go behind the hills.It tends to start high up each night.
You know, these are the patternsit tends. First. Okay,
I'll give you the pattern. First, the military comes in, they start
swarming, and we're talking over thesehills. There's I always tell my clients
or friends or even the other researchers, and we've gone out to the hills

(01:09:08):
closer. So we've gotten to getout under the hills under these things,
which is what I'm doing again tomorrownight right the weather permitting. And and
but we're still not right under it. So it's even though we're saying it's
coming up from behind these hills,it's still maybe a couple of miles further

(01:09:29):
back. But we understand that thisbase may go up, you may go
back to about five miles, soyou're going, Okay, it's still the
base. Why would you guys inthese hills I need anyone to understand.
If you look on Google Earth,you'll see it's rugged, rough, mountainous
terrain. There's nothing there. There'snothing. There's a few ranches in the

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beginning of first off, what Icall this side of the hills where Bradshaw
is and the area, you know, and as you drive out to Bradshaw
you pass some of these other properties. So there's a few ranches and homes,
and there's some open land camping inthe area. But then once you
get beyond the hills, there's SycamoreCanyon. In the very beginning of Sycamore

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Canyon, there are some ranches.But once you get beyond those and you
go back further and you're talking GovernmentCanyon, Sycamore Canyon, and further back
for miles, there is nothing butrough, rugged, mountainous, deep cavern
you know, terrain, thick pineforests, rolling red rocks. I mean,
it's beautiful scenery, but rugged andand and my my friend who has

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Jeremiah actually was on the show,who has been back there a couple of
times, says, when you canbe blown away when you see it,
it's like it's like Sidona, hall the houses and the people go without
all that. It's like Sadona beforeit was touched by man, you know,
right, Yeah, so I believe, yeah, he said. But

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that's where people have been stopped bythese guys, you know, And I
think they're like going to stop youif whatever, you're too close to something
they don't want you to see,or they have something going on or an
entrance going on. But there's yes, if you get stopped, take your

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phone and just put it in yourpocket. I can take I canna take
selfies with the guys. You kiddme, Yeah right, yeah, yeah,
no, no, you know.But but this is the other thing
I'm telling everyone before we go outthere. First off, don't take any
equipment you're not willing to have confiscated. Yeah, they might take it,

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a b they might take out,you know, the memory chips. So
I'm gonna tell youyone, whatever you'retaking out there, whatever you've got on
your phone, whatever it is you'retaking, you download everything onto your computer
at home before you go, youknow, I mean, I don't think
we'll get stopped. I think there'sa safety in numbers kind of thing.
People go out there all the timeand don't get stopped. My friends have

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gone out there, they haven't beenstopped. But I but we do know
what happens to people. Like Isaid, there's three newer stories that were
really you know, quite serious ofwhat happened. And so yeah, so
so far, so far, you'vebeen describing very very hot, you know,

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and you've done over a thousand ofthese tours. You're saying that there
is unprecedented activity that you have neverseen on a scale that you couldn't even
imagine. There's these people that areover those hills. Yep, there's where
the base is. And the onlyreason because I had I had a I

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had a guy. Okay, Ijust had a couple on my tour who
I just had them. This waswas my last tour, Okay, a
couple of days ago before the weathergot bad. This was this young guy.
Didn't asked his age. I'd puthim early thirties. And his fiance
they were not fiance. They justgot married. He said. It was

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their honeymoon. So they're here inSodona on their honeymoon. I think they
got married here and then they wereyou know, extended it and their honeymoon
was here. They said, it'sour honeymoon. Okay. And this guy,
without going too much detail, buthe works for the D D and
D eight and he went out beinga little bit healthy skepticism might take a

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lot of those people. And hesaid, I'll just be happy if I
see something. But he told methis very cool stool story of having had
met Auvy Lobe at a conference eventand having dinner with Avi Lowe, and
that was a very cool story.Okay. So so he's so he's starting
to ask the right questions. Wesee this activity pick up, and he

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says, Blonda, this as agiant military operation. I'm witnessing exactly.
There's like twenty planes and helicopters,mostly have military helicopters over hills and over
an area where there should be nothing. There's nothing there, and there's swarming
military and helicopters, and then there'sall these objects coming in and the sky

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starting to rain in and groups oftwos and threes coming in coming behind the
hills, coming up after a while, like first they appear up in the
sky after a while, and thisis the pattern we've started to see.
And then they started to come upfrom behind the hills. And occasionally I
started to say this early, andI think they cut me off. Occasionally

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military is escorting them, like they'llcome in in the sky and they'll start
to come down and you'll see militaryin the area kind of fly over near
them. I kind of fly withthem till they come down, and then
once come behind the hill, you'llsee military helicopters kind of coming up too,
and the military helicopters go up withthem ways until the objects keep going
up out disappearing or or powering upand winking out. So they'll either power

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up and wink out disappear, orthey'll power up and then slowly dim as
they're going away. But we haveseen military occasionally clear and he said,
without like saying anything to them,he said, this is a big military
operation. We're seeing things disappear,So don't know what the heck I'm seeing,
but it ain't anything normal and giantamber fields And I said, I

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explained the plasma and he said thatsounds accurate, Like you're knowledgeable from people
coming in your tour who are knowledgeableto tell you. And then he said,
and he said, this is ahuge military operation. And he said
they're clearly occasionally not all of them, but occasionally kind of escorting them in
or a scoring them up. Hesaid, they're kind of flying along with

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them. And there's and there's oftengroups of twos and threes, and and
the thing is and and if Igive you a little clip to insert here
of what we're seeing, so thismight mark the diming, that might be
a good place to desert it.It's like two minutes long. But if
you can edit this to do that, I can. But here's here's the

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thing. Everybody know that that's justa tiny little three minute segment from one
night. Imagine the amount of activityI'm showing you go on consistently for like
an hour and every night for sixtyfive nights in a row, of which
we witnessed about four. I witnessedforty five out of those sixty five nights,

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So I'm assuming it's probably happening theother nights. I can't see.
I didn't wasn't there to see it, or it was too cloudy. Maybe
they did cancel because it was toocloudy. But but definitely I have witnessed
it at least forty five out ofsixty five, maybe even sixty five.
To ask you something, Yes,you think that it is possible, David,

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about a treaty that has been signedbetween a potential non human intelligence and
human mankind at some point at sometime remains to be seen. Whatever could
we be seeing the early result ofsome sort of partnership or ramp up in

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partnership because disclosure is on taxicus.Well, good, good question. And
my clients every night, my client'sfriends and other researches, whoever's gone out
with me on those forty five nights, will ask me, Melinda, what
is it I'm seeing here? Okay? What do you think is going on?
And I this is what I say, because I said, you know

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you're seeing the same thing I am, you know as much as I do.
But I but I tell them.This space is known for having and
you were very astute to go rightthere. This base is known for having
an ET and humans working together presencethere. Yes, Okay, in my
mill have have experiences, and otherpeople with those experiences here in Sodona and

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other people in the surrounding area havebeen taken to this facility as part of
their abductions. And I don't saythat lightly. I gotta list. I
gotta list about twenty people that Iknow of, maybe even more if I
really thought about it, who've beentaken there, including me. I've had
two experiences are being taken there whereI have witnesses and people who are taken

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with me. Okay. And thenI've had other cases. So these are
alien abdictees who get targeted because oftheir alien abduction and have been taken to
this underground facility other I mean otherfacilities too. I'm just saying here in
Sodona, I have at least twentycases of people that have been there.
Okay. Now, so given thatinformation and other information that Tom Dongo has

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been researching, et cetera, thatthis is ET humans combined. Okay.
Now, so here's what I tellmy clients. Here's your three options.
One is what you were just saying, some kind of treaty activity. This
is ET's in us working together,flown and built by ETS, and we
have some interactive relationship with them.We're seeing fifty things a night for forty

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five nights, you know, sixtyfive. But you know, I don't
know if it happened the days Ididn't see it, but for forty five
nights, so that would be alot of ET's coming and going. Okay.
Choice number two that I tell myclients is it's ET craft, but

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in our possession some treaties something we'reflying them. This is some big giant
training exercise. There's a huge militarypresence, even though it's a base that
has an entrance where the entrance isowned by Lockey. Martin suggest that you
know, what are they doing?Why would there be this? But we're
seeing military jets and military helicopters overthe area. So it's not a quinc

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you got. I'm swarming. I'mswarming over those hills while this activity is
going on, escorting it down,escorting it up. I mean, this
is a huge story. I've reachedout to major investigators, come look,
do a story. This is huge. This proves every single one of those

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major forty witnesses and grushed. It'snot only proves them correct, it's that
on steroids. Because Troy's number threeis this is all reverse engineered technology and
we have fifty things a night flyingin and out of the base at Sedona
that can create huge, giant amberpower fields and disappear wow, or appear

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in space and come down and gobehind the base, which means we have
reverse engineered anti gravity technology. Fiftythings flying a night for forty five nights.
So no matter what scope you lookat this, it's the biggest story.
Not only thank you, thank you, but it is the biggest story

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of mankind because this could go along way in that solution. I mean,
and no Wonder, Oh, sorryto cut you off. I apologize,
It's okay, no Wonder. Ido apologize. I have to be
patient. I'm just being over excited. Friends of mine will tell you this

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is normal behavior for Melinda, andunfortunately it's rude and I have to not
do it. But I apologize.But no, you were right. I
mean everything you were saying, Notonly does it prove that those witnesses and
the reverse engineering and when Gresh iswe have locations. I can tell you
where one of those is. Yeah, yeah, and that lockeed Owns where

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the entrance is one of the entrances, but might be a major entrance because
it's a tunnel where they take intrucks. Holy shit, it just dawned
on me. What if could thisbe because there's another possibility here. The
Shumer rights starting to right, Wellnot for me, so okay, okay,

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so hopefully hopefully it's good. Okay, Yeah, so David Brush right,
he kind of awoted that he rangthe bell, if you will.
And now these companies like lockeed aregonna try to play that shell game.
Right, That's exactly what I've beensaying. I was gonna go there,

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and you just went there. Whatif it's because what if it's because of
Schumer rounds and they know this iscoming and the the the UAP you know
DA the UAP Disclosure Amendment. Okay, well that is the human rounds.
Okay, what if they're moving stuffaround and they're moving stuff because another friend

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of mine came out who has amilitary background. He's not currently but was
a long time ago. And justlike the other guy who worked for the
d d D I A just likehim, just like that young kid.
This this other guy said, thisis a military operation. They're escorting them,
they're securing airspace for a huge giantoperation to obviously move something in and
out of here. What if andthat's just a big what if because this

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is either a giant training exercise orit's moving day. Yeah, and then
and then he postulated, and Ihave no idea because all he knows what
we're seeing. He wondered, couldthey be moving it off planet? Could
they be you know, based onthe moon or something. Could they be
moving into another country or what?You know? Who knows. But we've

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been seeing it for sixty five daysand I personally witnessed it forty five nights.
I am, I want to fly. I told you I had something
big to drop. I told youI want to fly to Sonona like tomorrow
and just bring everything with me.Now I tell people, if you come

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here, you have to go lookat this. Well. First, I
think I use the night vision andI'll take you for free if I don't
have other clients. But if Ihave other clients, I'd have to charge
you because those goggles are for myclients. Of course, I only have
ten pairs of iron night vision.Then go with me for free. If
I don't have a lot of clients, I don't want the money to be
a thing. If your research orinvestigator someone very serious about this and you

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have to see it, but you'vegot to come for like a week and
go out every night, because onenight it may not happen. One night
it's likely to be cloudy or snowingor raining. So you you know,
I would say come for like aweek, you know, all the clear
nights will go. Look, ifI don't have a lot of other clients,
I don't want it to be Oh, she's just doing this for you

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know, any of that nonsense,because I want researchers to witness this and
see what I'm seeing. You alreadygot all the implications. Thank you,
ty, thank you, you graspthe implications. Because whether it's ET's coming
going or craft in our possession orreverse engineered, it's reverse engineered ET technology

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because this stuff disappears and creates giantplasma fields that plasma physicists going on my
tours say they can't even begin toimagine the amount of power generated that you
would see amber light at a distanceand things powering up like that, and
these things coming in groups of twosand threes going behind the hills, and
aircraft coming up to meet them,going with them. You know, as

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they're coming up behind the hill,there's craft aircraft with them. Sometimes,
right, I'm going to give youwho shows some of that and when I
show you, it'll be a tinylittle segment that's three minutes long, and
people have to wrap around their headthat that is happening for an hour every
night. And get this, itstarted to move back about every ten fifteen

(01:26:15):
days. I can't get I didn'twatch exactly it moved back by half an
hour. Where now it's starting atlike seven o'clock at night, like seven
to eight, or I think itpushed back again to like seven thirty.
But the friend of mine with amilitary background, had read a article about
when you have to launch stuff inorbit and that NASA and Jeff Bezos and

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Elon Musk and everybody they've learned thatoccasionally they have to adjust things for the
timing. And he said the articlesaid like every ten or fifteen days they
have to adjust. And I'm like, oh my god. And he's I
said that it was perfect sense.We're seeing them adjust for an orbit,
that they're adjusting to get him inorbit, or eating things coming in in
orbit, that they're having to havea certain timeframe for these things to come

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in in orbit. Now, wehave signs all the time on my tours,
but not this high concentration right overthose Hills with a huge military presence.
Like I said, this dea guymy friend with a military background.
I didn't even I just showed themand they immediately said, oh my god,
this is a military operation. It'sa big military operation at a base

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that has an entrance on land anda facility owned by Lockheed Martin. Yeah.
I mean that that's all the evidencefor me. That all points to
one thing, and to one thing, well to one thing, and it
involves the UFO phenomenon and then fromthere divulger. But there is something big.

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If if everything you're saying, whichyour reputation precedes you, I absolutely
absolutely believe you. If what you'resaying is happening, it's an unprecedented block
that we that the one that we'vebeen waiting for. And it seems that

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no. So what I'm asking isto be are your pores Like is that
a big thing? Like? Dothey know that you're watching? Good question?
I No one is, Thank god, I've not had any warnings or
threats or anything, you know,so I think you know. And this
is look, anyone can see this. We're we're in Sedona in the town

(01:28:39):
when we're seeing some of this.If weren't my regular spot, and so
a bunch of Knights when I've hadclients we were there. We went out
to a trailhead in another area intown that's still in the city, you
know, to see some of it. Now I'm going down on Black Mountain,
which is closer to Cottonwood, tosee some of it. And tomorrow

(01:29:00):
we're either going to go up higheron that same hill, or we're going
to go where you go through Jeromeand you go out on part of Mingos,
but you're going way out. There'sa little town in the middle of
nowhere called Perkinsville, and there's likea ridge with a stir road going out
on it. And we went outthere the other night and it was too
cloudy, and we realized that's goingto be a nice high point to see

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because we're trying to get a beatnow, because it was for the whole
month of October starting January twenty twenty. I mean, I'm sorry September twenty
seventh when I first started seeing thisstarted September twenty seventh, coming up behind
Kasner, which is right next toright behind Branshaw. I mean, oh,
and get this, I looked outa major thing one of the nights

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that I had clients that had slightlycloser parking lot. So we're only a
mile from Casner right there, rightwhere we were a mile from Casner,
about a half mile further in theit's right where you go down is going
down to Bradshaw. Jeremiah, thefellow researcher, I didn't know this.

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Tom Dongo had already told him allabout this before I did, and said,
you got to go see this.Tom was sick at the time.
Didn't go see Jeremiah and Alexander godown to Bradshaw Ranch. They're there at
the same time. I have myclients maybe two miles away from them,
a mile and a half maybe twomiles the tops from right where they're we're

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standing. We saw these giant amberlights coming up like crazy behind Kasner,
going up, some going to theright, some going to the left.
Jeremiah said, those going straight up. Look because they were there at Bradshaw
witnessing the same thing from a differentangle. I didn't know that. And
they said some of them were theones going to the right. For us,
we're kind of heading away from them. There were ones going up,

(01:30:54):
but any ones that we saw goingto the left, were going right over
them, and they said, Linda, they were giant amber lights, except
one of them was so low,so close. It came over him.
Giant black triangle. Oh yeah,they said. As it approached, it
was a big black triangle and ithovered right over them. Now when I

(01:31:15):
when I the day, they toldme that I had ran into him in
town. A couple days later,I had to call them. It was
like five six days or whatever.I called them to talk to him about
something. Alexandra opened answers the phone, and I said, she goes,
Jeremi's right here. I'll hand themthe phone. I go, before you
do, tell me your account ofseeing the triangle. She said, Melinda,

(01:31:38):
they were giant amber lights. Oneof them came closest enough to us,
and it all of a sudden,it was a big black triangle coming
over us. It stopped, werebradshots hovering right over us. And then
she said, it shot straight upand disappeared. Oh shit, oh shit,
shot straight up and disappeared, andand and so we want to get

(01:31:59):
out. That's one of the reasonswe're checking out these other locations is my
goal is to get out there closercloser, closer, to try to be
under these to see if we seethis structure of these craft, right,
and whether their triangles or discs.I mean one of them was a triangle
that they witnessed. Now we werea mile and a half away. We

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just saw a giant amber light sobright it was like lighting up the hill.
Right, that's what we saw.So we didn't we weren't close enough
to see it as a triangle.But they saw the same thing from let's
say two miles away, but theywere right under it, and they said
it was a giant triangle hovering righton top of them. So did they

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say that the amber light was comingoff of it or did it? Yeah,
yeah, it glowed with the amberlight. It was an amber light
on approach. We whenever we getstructure craft on my tour, and we've
seen full structure sixty three times overthirteen years. Over all those tours thirteen
years, we've seen full streng exturesixty three times, and it's usually we've

(01:33:04):
seen sixty three fully structure graft.Only two of them were like silhouetted,
like you know, if you're outat night, you put your hand up.
It's silhouetted against the lid stone right, Okay, okay, So only
two of them were silhouetted. Theother sixty one. Either the whole thing
glowed amber so orange red you know, orange are red, or it glowed

(01:33:29):
blue or green or multiples of thosecolors. One disc had amber, so,
one disc had gold red and greenon it. One big triangle glowed
blue and red. We've had atriangle over us, so the whole thing
glowed periwinkled blue like blue with atint of purple, you know. And

(01:33:50):
so often on approach structure craft onapproach will either be a big orange,
red, blue, or green lightcoming towards you. You if it turns
you have what I call big lightsiding. You just have a big light
like they like these when they powerrap. That's a big light. Sighting.
Big light means you can't see thestructure. You're not seeing shape.

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But if that big light keeps comingover you, and that's We've had cylinders,
triangles, discs, ovals, teardrop shape, diamond shape. We've
seen a variety. I'm not I'mnot joking you guys, we've seen all
those shapes. What do you recommendfrom people if they if they are in

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getting to that point where the craftis coming towards you, do you think
that there's anything to fear, orlike me, well no, maybe,
okay, okay, if it's highenough, well okay, well you don't
know. So you're asking us thereanything to fear. My clients sometimes we've

(01:34:57):
had structure graphic. God, I'mafraid, and I'll go why and they'll
go okay, yeah, you know, or they'll see it and they'll go
should I be afraid? And I'llgo why and they'll go okay, yeah,
because then they realize we're just it'slike seeing a car. It's like
standing by the freeway and seeing acargo by, or you know, or
if someone pulls into a parking lotwe were staying, it's like seeing the
car pull in ofver and leave.You know, it's like okay, but

(01:35:18):
but so if it's high enough up, but if it's extremely low over you,
there is a ton of information tosuggest that there's possibilities of radiation and
other stuff. There's a story afterstory of people having radiation burns. There's
even some news stories. You know, so you go, okay, if
it's really close to you that peoplesay I w went to land, and

(01:35:41):
I'm like, no, you don't. First off, of one lands,
you don't get anywhere near it becauseyou can have a radiation thing if you're
not protected. Secondly, if onelands, it usually means you're being abducted.
Yeah, yeah, you know.So I tell my clients and I
say, you don't want that tohappen because I have to charge you.
You know, I said, onelands it's five grand. If you get

(01:36:02):
abducted, it's ten grand. Yeah, of course, kidding, of course,
I'm kidding. But because they'll go, they'll go, what happens with
one lands? I said, we'llhave to charge you more? And they
go, why because it means youbring abducted. You know. But I
always get my clients when they say, can it happen on your tour?
I said, out of all thosetours, I said, no one's been

(01:36:24):
abducted yet, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But well I
dispell any fear. If we're havinga big structure craft line, we've had
big triangles over right over us,you know, which is why so I
don't doubt Jeremy for a second.I've seen that I've had big triangles over
me, over me, on mytours nine times. But I want to

(01:36:45):
get out under this stuff because Iwant to see and with the military and
the helicopters hovering and everything, youknow, and film these things. With
the helicopters, we're albably filming themin a y. I want to get
up under them and fill them.I mean this, like you said,
this, this is like like thosetwo client you know friends, I should

(01:37:08):
say, well, one's a client, one's friend coming on the door.
They were like, this is ahuge military operation. It's absolute you know,
evidence, if not proof of allthose forty witnesses and Grush being absolutely
accurate. It says that this isa much bigger, deeper rabbit hole than

(01:37:30):
anyone ever thought. Because if we'reseeing fifty et craft coming and going from
that base every night, you knowfifty, you know, because we're seeing,
we're seeing upwards, you know,on a slow night, it's been
like twenty things. The oh,there's been a few nights where we had
like eight, ten out of theforty five nights, and then there were
times we had ten. And thenthere were nights we're having over fifty and

(01:37:55):
the DA guys witnessing over fifty.My friend, you know, who the
military ground ground is like, thisis over fifty things and at one time
we keep counting. We count fromthe town of Jerome, which is all
lit up on the hill, toBare Mountain and that you know how in
our expans a vision, how manymilitary we're seeing in the air and in
that small expanse and sometimes right overBlack Mountain, right over Casner twenty military

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swarming the air as these craft arecoming in and out and going and coming
in groups and twos and threes.Wow. Wow, And it's like,
okay, this, like I said, it's it's either somebody's panicking because of
shoom rounds and having to cough upthis stuff. And like you said,
like the shell game, you know, where's the pee? You know?

(01:38:42):
Are they moving stuff? I don'tknow. Is this a giant training exercise?
I don't know. We've seen itcome up in one place behind Kasner
that's back in Secret Mountain. Nowwe're seeing it behind Black Mountain. We're
seeing it maybe five miles further awayin another location. Are there two places
where they can bring craft in andout of the space. I don't know.
That's one of the things we're tryingto figure out. This is Obviously

(01:39:05):
they're now doing the operation in adifferent location. Right, that's at least
five miles away from what we firstsaw. The way I see it is
we need further investigation by treating people. We need them right now, We
need them there, yeah, youknow, and in bringing equipment taking Well,

(01:39:30):
this is a prime if. AndI'm not sure if you put the
call out yet, but this isto anybody large, par do I agreed
to do this with you today.First, after you've been asked me and
you know, phone tag whatever.Okay. Secondly, I'm in the middle
of this and I'm like, okay, I can talk about this before anybody

(01:39:51):
tells me, even team members tellme not do Okay, Now I have
a feeling right now everyone will besupportive. But if they at some point
say you're even my friend Danny,she and I go, you know,
that happens. But that hasn't happenedyet. So I'm like, I can
talk about it. I can sayall this and put this out there and
let people know. Secondly, Ican use when I apologize because you're going

(01:40:14):
to do a considerable amount of editing, and I apologize for that. Once
this is edited, I can thenlead some of these other researchers and people
I've been telling you about this tothis, and I don't need to go
into a two hour conversation like Idid with Danny the other night on the
phone. I can say, watchthis, here's the story. Now.
I did talk about it a littlebit on s so R, but not

(01:40:35):
all this new stuff, not aboutthe evidence for Lockheed and the cement plant.
And you know I had so muchmore. So I'm like, Okay,
let's give the whole story. I'llgive the additional evidence and and then
I can tell anyone who's serious orinterested. Because I've tried. I've reached

(01:40:57):
out to Ross Colethard. He's notcalling me back. I I know him,
and I have a friend that talksto him all the time. That
friend of mine keeps telling him RossRoss. He has told this friend of
mine. They talk often. I'mgoing to Color. I'm going to call
her. Has been like two weeks. He hasn't happened. I have not
yet, But I'm going to reachout to George. Now I can reach
out to others. There's there's Idon't know if I should share it,

(01:41:19):
but there's a person who's a radiopersonality coming to this town next week.
I hope to show them. Idon't have the permission to talk about it,
so I won't, but but Iexpect that I'll be taking them out.
Jimmy, I don't know Jimmy.I would say, I know Jimmy
quite well. I'd be I toGeorge's coming, but no, no,

(01:41:40):
but but someone equally known, veryequal to church. But but until I
know I can say it, I'mnot going to say all right, that's
fine, that's fine. But whatI want to get out of you right
now is one a couple of daysbefore the show as many times as possible

(01:42:01):
to get with you, because youhave amazing connections and you're just a wealth
of information, and you know itjust comes from being in the field for
thirty five years. Yeah, butyou've been doing this a hell a long
time. I joke with Tom Dondo, who's been it forever. You know,
we joke like, oh my god, and even even Danny it's like

(01:42:23):
we you know, our conversations arelike, this is too long. We
need to disclosure to all of us. Get a break in your in your
your tooms, and maybe even ifyou want to go beyond that degree interviews
et cetera. How many military peopleor do O D people do you think

(01:42:47):
that you brought out there? Nowmaybe you change, like because what you're
doing they influence what they do whenthey go back. Oh yeah, yeah,
no a few, yeah, yeah, not not that many. I
mean I'm mostly taken out tourists,you know, families, young couples,
elderly whatever, families, you know. People. These are just people who

(01:43:11):
are tourists coming to Sedona and foryou know, and some of them are
very new age, and some ofthem are very skeptical. And some of
them have had excuse me, sightings, some of them haven't, you know,
And so you know, everybody startsopening up. Every pilot I've taken
who's had sightings opens up and startsharing their sightings. I've taken out hundreds

(01:43:32):
of pilots. I've only had atone point, I well, you know,
it holds about four people who werepilots who said they'd never seen anything
prior to my tour. Now theysaid they, you know, but prior
to my tour, not had asight. But but I've taken out hundreds
and the others all go blah blahblah blah blah and share all their sightings.

(01:43:54):
I'm sorry, was the rest ofyour question? I lost my trade
in thought. I apologize, Arethere? Yeah, I just I'm sorry.
I spilled a little bit of Okay, I just I didn't know if
I answer your question. One otherthing, I'll go back to whatever your
question was. But one other thingI want to emphasize that I have written
here and I kind of circled acouple of times, is what we're witnessing

(01:44:16):
out here. All this stuff thatI've been sharing today ends up being really
gives you understanding why the pushback fromthese corporations, because if we're seeing fifty
reverse engineered things coming in out ofspace, they don't want to have to

(01:44:38):
admit that or caught that up,or just their knowledge of the extent of
et craft and our possession obviously functioning. And we're seeing a highly functioning UAPs,
and I don't know who build themor who's flying them. I just
know I'm witnessing a giant operation forsixty five days and operations and we know

(01:45:03):
that that that now, I don'tknow that that tunnel is absolutely okay.
The TV show said tunnel's absolutely there, but they only got the part that
they scan. So they're drawing aline to show where does this line go
both directions. It goes under Kasnerand back to Secret Mountain and Secret Canyon,

(01:45:29):
Secret Canyon, Government Canyon Caser.It goes under there. Right over
the middle of it is Bradshaw Ranch, and then it goes right if you
drop, you know, they dothat straight line perfectly straight. I've redrawn
it on on Google Earth and Idropped the pin drops and that's how I
know. It's twelve miles and itgoes straight under the cement processing plant that

(01:45:55):
just happens to be owned by LockeyMartin. Yeah. Those yeah, so
you know, So I don't know, you know. And I talked to
Danny about this yere night. Isaid, look, all I know is
what I'm seeing, and I knowthat that cement plant is owned by them.
The rest is extrapolation. But evenhe was like, no, that's

(01:46:19):
pretty clear, you know, likeyou know, it's pretty clear. It
is what it is. You know, it is what it is. And
the TV show not only did that, they I forgot this other part.
Not only did they have all thedrones come back, they did this thing
with this laser array and sending outradio signals and stuff. It all got
bounced back to them. If youwatch the show, their voices repeat over

(01:46:43):
and over and demonstrating that they werebeing eavesdropped on and everything they were saying
was being set back to them.Yeah, and so they could hear themselves.
Now, for anyone who doesn't understandaudio engineering, now that possible and
one way for one of two ways, and that is if you're broadcasting your

(01:47:09):
own sign This is so funny.I've said earlier my team was trying to
contact me and and and that thatwas. That was Jeremiah and Alexandra.
Now this other part of the team, which is Nate and Kelly, are
trying to contact me and let themknow that I'm I'm doing this. That's
funny, you know. But whydon't you get this edited and that I'll

(01:47:30):
send them to watch. Yeah,please please please. And so although they
might go, Okay, you didthat, don't do it again, I'm
just kidding, you know. Andyou just asked me your timing was good.
Why why am I doing disclosingness withyou? Well, you asked me
your time was good. I wasthinking, you know, I was going
to reach out to Matt Ford.I mean, I was thinking who I've

(01:47:51):
been on with before, you know, and Vinnie and you know every everybody
you know, uh and and Jamesand Doolian stuff and and you just said
I want to have you on rightnow. And I'm like, Okay,
good timing because it still serves thepurpose that I now I have it recorded
where I can send people to watch. Yeah, And I'm super excited about

(01:48:12):
that because I think this is thisthis story needs to get out there because
it's now or never for investigators andresearchers who really want to like put their
money where their mouth is. Getout to Sedona, get this documented,
and get it to the public inan open source way. Yeah. And
there's other people like these YouTubers likeJesse Michael's of American Alchemy and all these

(01:48:38):
other people, like get them outthere. I'm gonna send a call out.
I'm gonna do my best to tryto do see what I can do.
But if they've got my mission,bring them, because then you're not
using up mine when I you know, and keeping me from bail and take
clients switch you know, that's mybusiness. But at the same time,

(01:48:59):
if if it's a slower night andI'm not eating all the goggles. I'll
let someone look if they're a seriousresearcher, because I want this scene.
I want this documented. I'm goingto reach out to to some more of
these big players, as I said, because I think it requires a real
serious investigation. Danny's very seriously andinterested and and and he's saying everything else

(01:49:27):
I get. So I'm going toconstantly inform Daniel Sheen because you know,
I was even telling Danny, Isaid, you need to get some of
those senators and congressmen involved and tosee this kind of thing, because because
what I'm witnessing is take is putit's takes it on such a bigger level.
You know. Well, I've hadCongressman on the show, and I

(01:49:51):
will absolutely send this episode. Yeah, maybe you could, maybe you could
facilitate, you know, uh,trying to get on here to talk about
not only not only what's going on, but what's going on with the who
he doesn't know. I mean,he just has hurt my account, so

(01:50:13):
he's not involved in these hearing myaccounts. But I'll say that hide me
under, you know. Yeah,and it wants me to keep him informed
of all additional evidence and everything weget because because he says he can send
out a like a very professional investigativeteam out here. Yeah, maybe you

(01:50:38):
can maybe so put in a goodbut I'm trying to reach out to to
the producers from skin Walker who alreadydid you know the segment, and if
you know how to get in touchwith them. I want to do that
because I want them to know itadditional evidence. They just they already did

(01:50:59):
two shows. Not that they're goingto be inequery to do a third one,
but they might, you know,given a good storyline, and you
know, I'm so maybe maybe theymaybe they will, but I want to
at least notify them and you know, and whatever, any you know,
I anyone who wants to look intothis is welcome to come and do it.

(01:51:23):
I think the implications are well,thank you Ty, you know,
Ty, first off, thank youfor having me on. Secondly, it
was so rewarding for me that yougot it, like you were things conclusions
I was going to make. Youwere jumping there on your own, like
the implications they're just staggering, andyou were instantly getting it, you know.
Yeah, And that was warring forme because like, oh my god,

(01:51:44):
thank god, somebody who gets it, you know, yeah, I
mean, it's it's it's it's it'spretty I mean, I think any human
that is in our sphere would onceyou start going down that and you start
naming, you know, name andand and dominoes start falling, it's pretty
like over And what they're doing isthey're hiding in because way that you have

(01:52:15):
to be out on those hills arevery close to it to see it.
There's one guy who lives I've meta guy in town who's the server in
a restaurant and and he he longstory short, he lives in one of
the ranch is out there. AndI said, what have you seen?
And he says, oh, youmean the giant amber lights. He goes,
yeah, we see those. NowI'm gonna i I know where he

(01:52:38):
works, I'm gonna go back there. And because I didn't get his contact
information, I want to do that. I want to say, have you
seen anything low enough to see thestructure besides the amber lights? You know,
just you know, like those guyshaving the amber light, Well,
Bradshaw coming over them, this whatwe're seeing from Casner. They were seeing
the same thing, but it wascoming over him and it ended up being

(01:53:00):
a big triangle right on top ofhim. That is absolutely amazing. And
I'm now, does that mean allthese things are triangles? I don't know,
you know, I mean probably not. There's probably a variety of stuff,
but yeah, you know, someof it could be diss you know,
I'm not saying. There's one otherthing I'll share. One day,

(01:53:23):
I had this group of ladies onoccasion I do hiking tours and vortex tours,
and they're with me on kind ofa hiking vortex tour and I was
taken to two of the Vortex locationsand we hit the first one. No
big deal for anyone who knows thearea. We were Rachel's Nole, which
is which is in a gated housingcommunity, is part of the Boydon Canyon.

(01:53:46):
Again, if someone knows the area, the Boydon Canyon, Vortex and
Long Canyon, which is next toBoyton Canyon, and Rachel's Nol is a
hill on the in the entrance toBoyton Canyon in this gated community. Anyways,
so we're there and we hear militaryjets coming very loud over near us.

(01:54:06):
There is Wilson Mountain, which isgranite, and they're coming over Wilson
Mountain. Finally, they dip downover Wilson Mountain and we're seeing but at
first we think there's like four militaryjets. And I've started to have to
do a bunch of research and whatdifferent different jets look like. And they
kind of were shiny, So I'mthinking FIC sixteens, not f Eighteen's okay,

(01:54:30):
but I'm not perfectly sure on that'sone or the other. Very needle
nose sticking out the front, andthey're coming over the hill. But then
even my clients go, what's thatother thing? So there's three jets,
but there's something else with them,and it had well basically it was an
oval. It was a disc,oval shaped disc, and it had no

(01:54:55):
tail, no wings. It dippeddown and where we are up on that
hill, we're facing Long Canyon,and there's this granite peak right across from
us, and one at a kindof an angle, and the one at
an angle right behind that would bewhere part of Boyton Canyon still is and
Sycamore Canyon beyond that, beyond thehills. So these dip down right in

(01:55:17):
front of us this other object.No sound the jets, you can feel
the thrust. They're extremely extremely loud, they're very close to us, right
within it, you know, acouple hundred yards, probably less than quarter
mile anyways, you know. Andthen I mean they came down almost dipping
down into the canyon, definitely definitelyfollowing the contour. And then they flew

(01:55:42):
up over the other granite mountain andkept going. And they were like,
why would they be following my clients, women who had no interest. They
weren't a UFO thing at all.In fact, I reached good reason to
believe, I'll share in a secondthat they had no interest. And so
they're like, what the heck,that doesn't it's And I said, what
are you guys seeing? And theysaid, well, it has no wings,

(01:56:02):
no tail, it's oval. It'sthicker than the planes. They had
thickness. That was Those planes werereally sleek and long. These this had
thickness and the planes were kind ofshiny. This was more of a dole
finish. They said, no,no wings, no tail, completely silent,

(01:56:24):
and the jets were loud. Thiswas completely signed. The jets you
could see were like thrusting forward.This thing would occasionally go side to side
and occasionally lag a little bit behindthe jets and then speed up and catch
up with them, and then itwould go side to side and it would
lag a little, so it wasclearly a different modality of propulsion. It

(01:56:45):
would lag and then speed up,and lag and speed up. And then
they all went over the hill andthey said, why are they following the
train? And train? I said, good point, I said, I'm
glad you saw that too. Isaid, they're flying under radar, clearly
flying under radar. Follow the train. Two jets in front of the thing
and one to the side. Soyou had two and two like this,

(01:57:06):
everybody two and two. So thetwo wait, that's going this direction.
Two jets here going like this,and the object so like this, and
then the object was between them andthe other object and the other So I
mean sideways like this. But youget it because they were right out from
us. They were just slightly aboveus when they came down over the valley,

(01:57:26):
but really close. And then theyraised and then these ladies. It
was a very hot day, becauseit was about a year ago. It
was very hot, and I wentin the car to turn on the air
conditioning. They were talking amongst themselves. I got the car cooled anyways,
and then they came. Well,the reason they were talking amongst themselves.
Is they got in the car andsaid, we decide we don't want to

(01:57:47):
go to the second location. Wewant to end the tour. They were
freaked out by what they saw thatthey never thought there was a reality to
it. And I was asking them, I said, what do you guys
see And they said, well,clearly were seeing a UFO. You know,
without my hand, I just tellyou what you're seeing. And they
said, clearly, we're seeing theUFO. And they said there's jets escorting

(01:58:10):
it, and and and and theytalked amongst themselves and they said, we
we don't They said, we don'tfeel good we went in the tour.
I could tell they were. Icould tell they were freaked out. And
by the way and then these thingswhen they took off over the hill,
guess what direction they were going?Straight back there, straight back underground five

(01:58:31):
miles by lucky with the entrance.Just by listen. You have been an

(01:58:54):
absolute absolute last have you in thelike I said, stick around after the
end credits and uh and have aquick five minute chat. Sorry, I
gave you such a long show.I hope you can aired it together.

(01:59:16):
It'll takes of course, you're gonnacut an half hour off editing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, youknow, but I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I don't know why the the internethere was being naughty or if that's
what it was, you know,whatever it was. But I'll give you
a little piece of footage that wefilmed, and I'll give you I'll give

(01:59:40):
you linked to that and i'll giveyou hopefully you can do something with it.
And I'll give you the photo Itook up the entrance to the step
plant and the little line I foundonline about it being Washington Post and on
the line and the line picture.Yeah. So I'll send you those those

(02:00:02):
threer photos. That'll be easy.The video if there's, which is about
three minutes long, hopefully you can, you know, put that all in.
Now there's footage. Ron James isgonna edit something together for me.
He said, you know, youhave to give me the pieces of footage.

(02:00:25):
And I haven't had the time toreview to pick out the ones of
Jay's I want to use, andblah blah blah, and the ones and
Karen's and then Karen did post themon Facebook on Karen Hill on Facebook.
But they're they're not. I don'tknow I can't get them all to play.
I don't know what's going on there, get asked, so and I
need to get him in such away that I can give him to Ron

(02:00:46):
to edit together. But the one, the one little piece of footage works
works clearly. I have already sentthat to a couple of people and they
were able to watch it. Sohopefully you're able to grab that and edit.
Yeah and again. But as we'resaying this, but by the time

(02:01:08):
you edit thiss and we get tothis, people say, yeah, we
already saw that stuff. So ifif it's successful, by the time you
get here, you have already seenit. Yeah, but where where can
people Where can people continue the conversationwith you? Where can they find you?
Where can they buy Twitter? Youknow if people are Twitter people,

(02:01:34):
so twitter x whatever x under atLenny Leslie and if you're friends with me
there you can DM me at LennyLeslie if I'm friends with you. But
you can still put it in commentson something I posted at Lenny Leslie,

(02:01:56):
so it doesn't need to be damned. And if you put something in comments
to something I posted, then I'llsee it. I posted that I was
coming on the show, so that'sthere. Yeah, and what else and
then west this is done. I'llobviously post links Facebook Melinda, Melnda Leslie
on Facebook. And then my websiteis uh for for the tours is uh

(02:02:25):
ufo Siting tours with an as pluraldot com So ufo Sitingtours dot com and
uh and I can you go tothe Center for the New Age for booking
anything with me? And and alsopeople cannot reach me the Center for the
New Age in Sedona. Often peoplewill call here and leave messages and the

(02:02:46):
concierge is here very good about gettingmessages to me, So that's another good
way. Yeah. So it's upon the scree right now, w w
w dow ufo Siting Tours, whichI really need to update. So I
apologize because it says it's like I'vedone six hundred tours. It has so

(02:03:06):
I need I need to I needto do that. Yeah, I have
to do that. I have todo that. Keep up the amazing keep
up the amazing work. And we'regonna stay in contact and stick around after
the credits. And to everyone outthere listening, whether you're a member or

(02:03:26):
whether you're not, this holiday season, we all I want to show support
for each other. Everyone. Thankyou Melinda for coming on the show and
and dropping this here first. Thatthat is my thanks. Thank you,

(02:03:47):
thank you pushing the tape, thankyou for having me on time. Thank
you very much, and and forletting me drop this piece of news and
kind of you using you to doso. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Yeah, and everyone out there listening, if you're listening on Apple or
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