The Age of Disclosure- UFO Documentary First Reaction & Review!

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to the age of disclosure.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
The American people are ready.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
To receive the truth.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Humanity is not the only intelligent species.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
We are absolutely not alone.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Non human intelligence exists.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
UAPs are real, they're here, and they're not human.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I spent twenty five years as a senior official with
the CII.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
I worked on a highly classified UAP program. Twenty eight
years as an astrophysicist. I served as the fourth Director
of National Intelligence, Director of Aviation Security in the National
Security Council.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
The one star Admiral after thirty two years of service.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Able that come forward with this, I feel like they've
taken their life in their own adies.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
I was recruited to a highly sensitive government program that
investigated unidentified aerial phenomenon.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
For over sixteen years on behalf of the US government,
I worked as a senior intelligence official on the unidentified
aero phenomenon topic.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
We learned that the US government was involved in a
long running secret war with other nations to collect and
verse engineer vehicles not made by humans.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
I have seen with my own eyes non human craft
and non human beings. The first country that cracks the
code on this technology will be the leader for years
to come. China has established its own version of the
UAP Task Force.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Do you think for a second that they wouldn't consider
using it to achieve their ends of nomination?

Speaker 6 (01:58):
This is similar to the Manha. This is the atomic
weapon on steroids.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
This is so secret, very very few people in our
entire government that can allowed access to it. Even presidents
have been operating on a need to know basis, but
that begins to ramp out of control.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that
no one ever sees.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
You better be careful about a government doesn't trust you
speak because there's no telling what they'll pull on you.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
This is the biggest discovery in unionistry. You had information
being locked away that could change the trajectory for species.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
It has so many beneficial impacts, including clean energy.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
We should have disclosure today, We should have disclosure tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
The time has come.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
What else you want to know?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Welcome back to Total Disclosure, hosted by myself Ty Roberts. Today,
I'm here to talk about my review and my first
reactions to Age of Disclosure, the new film that just
hit theaters in three cities, LA, DC, New York pretty

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standard for like a limited release. It was also shown
at south By Southwest I think a year ago at
this maybe maybe a little under a year ago. Some
people got to see it at that south By Southwest convention,
which is really really cool. But the movie finally finally
made its debut for the public on Amazon Prime. It

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was a I mean, I'm just gonna start with this.
This is gonna be spoiler free for the most part.
I don't even know if you can spoil a movie
like this, can you? I don't know, can you? Can
you spoil a movie like this? I don't know. I'm
gonna do my I'll do my best to not like
talk about anything that actually happens in the film that

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like people would be pissed about. I don't think there's anything.
Maybe there's a couple lines, maybe maybe a couple like
key lines of dialogue, but I don't even have any
of the quotes like that. So anyway, it's gonna be
pretty generalized. I'm gonna go into some of the things

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I liked about it, some of the things I didn't
like about it, some of the things that I thought
were a bit redundant, And you know, if you want
to chime in, I will definitely be queuing in the chat.
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Apple or Spotify. All Right, with that being said, I
want to start diving into my review. So first couple

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of things I wrote down and I have a lot
of notes for this which are a little bit sloppy.
Not sloppy, but I have this. So when I was
working on Pop Culture Corner and doing a lot of
those movie reviews, I built out this like system because

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I would have to. I would go to movies all
the time and I would have to review them. I
actually had a deal with the theaters in the area,
the Boston area Showcase Cinema if anyone is in New England.
It's a local chain, but it's one of the biggest
chains in the world, it's like in the top ten.
So I had to deal with showcase cinemas and I'd

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go and review movies and then I would review them
from inside the theater. So I ended up building out
this kind of like what I would consider as like
a checkpoint list, but I made one for documentaries as well,
because I'm not gonna bore you with that shit. But
I built out this thing so I use that for

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age of disclosure. And I calculated a review score from
one to ten, not rookie scores if anyone watches Barstool
Pizza reviews, so there's always a decimal. I've never given
a perfect score. For instance, I think the highest score
I've ever given was a nine point something like a
nine point two nine point three. So, just before I

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get into all of it, that's the backstory. I've never
given higher than a nine point three on any film.
I don't think any film has ever been perfect. I
think Oppenheimer was like eight point nine on My Thing,
which is pretty fucking high. So yeah, with that being said,
I want to go through some of the stuff. I
think it was very clear from the trailer what this

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movie was going to be and what this movie was
always going to be. Was was a retelling of the
narrative that has been set forth and what was set
forth into that twenty seventeen via the New York Times article.
Most people remember this as probably the start of modern

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day ufology. It was written by Leslie Keane, Ralph Blumenthal,
and Helene Cooper. The title was Glowing Ore is a
Black Money the Pentagon's mysterious UFO program. Now, in this
report or bombshell article, if you will, we got in

(08:00):
introduced to some key players in what we were told
was a UFO investigation program. Till that point in twenty seventeen.
You have to remember that the only on the books
program that we had known was Project Blue Book. Right,
Everyone in the UFO community, in the field, the big players,

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the UFO talking heads, if you will, they always had
this notion that there was a program. It was just
not public It wasn't public facing like Project blue Book.
And after the Conduit report kind of shut or put
the gabage on UFO reporting, the stigma started to set in.

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And then we found ourselves with fifty years of denial,
fifty years of cover ups, fifty years of silence, if
you will, from government in general, like the US government,
and then in seventeen. It was really actually in twenty sixteen,

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late twenty sixteen, because I think the article published in
December of twenty seventeen, so that's right on the new
year line, So it was really late twenty sixteen. Rumors
started swirling that there was this guy, he was involved
in something, and he was coming forward, but no one
really knew exactly what until that day December twenty seventeenth,

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December twenty sixth, December sixteenth, twenty seventeen, it ran. I
remember it was a Sunday, and then on the Monday
it ran in the actual like hard copy of the time,
and I still have that somewhere in my files. We

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were introduced to Lou Elizondo, a gentleman named Lou Elizondo,
and the program a Tip, the program a Tip as
it was presented to us in that article, and I
should Brian Bender from Politico also was reporting on this,

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and I should bring that point up as well. So
Brian Bender reported on it for Politico. Kind of launched
at the same time that The Times, No pun intended
took the lead. It was obviously the bigger outlet, but
Politico has literally had the same access and essentially the
same story they were telling to the public. So twenty

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seventeen changed the modern UFO disclosure movement. However, however, and
so it did set the tone, and it started this
kind of like crescendoing house of cards right starting to fall,

(10:50):
if that makes sense, or like dominoes starting to fall.
But it was all set centered around the Nimts, the
two thousand and four Knimts encounter with David Framer, Alex Dietrich,
Chad Underwood. Uh. And most people will know this footage
very very well. So that footage came out with the

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twenty seventeen New York Times article. Along with it, Alizondo
and Chris Mellon had snuck it out of the Pentagon
quote unquote, uh, you know, recounting, not from Lou's book.
At least that's how it's framed, is they snuck the
footage out. They like to find some loophole. It wasn't classified,

(11:34):
but it wasn't for public eyes. So there it was
a little bit of gray. Uh. And all of a
sudden there's a resurgence in the UFO world, like the
UFO community acknowledgment of this program a TIP, which stands
for the advanced Oh Jesus, why am I doing this now,

(11:58):
advanced Aerospace threat Iification program. But then what we later
find out is ASAPP was the actual mother program. That
was the advanced Maybe I'm god Jesus, Advanced Aerospace Weapons
Systems UP Application program. I might have one of those

(12:19):
words wrong, like anomalous or aerospace, but yeah, that was
a TIP. And ASAP turns out a TIP was a moniker,
an unclassified moniker for ASAP. So I'm just like a
little confused. Because so the twenty seventeen New York Times
article comes out, it positions a TIP, It positions Alizondo
at the forefront, however, and I think it did a

(12:44):
lot of good. It really did. However, this like threat
a threat narrative emerged with Alizondo. Everything was national security everything,
and I get it, he's a counter intel guy. I
think it'd be stupid if our government and it wasn't
looking at this as because you can't. There's a thin

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line between indifference, indifference and malevolency, right, So I think
it'd be very stupid to not look at UFOs who
are breaching nuclear sites as a threat However, they have shown,
they have shown a much higher capacity than I think

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is ever being let on. Humans seem to be the
issue the aggressors in the situation. It's no secret that,
you know, even in this film they talk about it
with Roswell. The cover up kind of started there, right,
CIA is born out of that, you know, a few
months later, or not even a few months, I think

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six barely six months go by before the National Security
Act is passed by true and by the time Eisenhower
gets involved, he's warning us about the military industrial complex. Right,
Blue Books now you know there. But you know, no
one's ever really sure what Project Blue Books, like actual

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motivation was. Were they hiding things? I think the general
consensus is yes. So I bring all this up for
a reason because the twenty seventeen New York Times article,
for all the good it did, there was some major
flaws that were in the article. For instance, a tip
was not the program that was awarded the twenty two

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million dollars. That was a program called ASAP. That was
a program run by James Lakatski. That was a program
that was funded or was under the Bigelow team. Bigelow
was awarded the contract. So Harry Reid goes to a
couple members of the Gang eight and Daniel Ineway is

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one of them. Forget who the other person is. So
Daniel in a way gives a very good speech maybe
some of you will know it, where he talks about
that there's a government that we don't see. They act
above the law. They have their own fundraising recoganisms, their
own army, their own navy, and so he's one of them.

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Him and Senator Harry Reid, who at the time held
a very very high ranking position in government, went to
them decided we're going to put twenty two million dollars
aside and we are going to essentially create this Black program.
This Black Program was AWESAP and it was going to

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study everything that you can think of, from the paranormal
to I mean, it was mainly a UFO investigation program,
but a lot of their work was out of Skinwalker Ranch.
Bigelow was known for this right. He had bought in
Skinwalker Ranch and some other properties. Bigelow's name is tied
to nids now NIDS. If you start looking at the

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roster of NIDS, you'll start seeing a lot of names
that seemed to pop out again in the twenty seventeen article,
but spun a different way again. This is why I
bring it up because I'm very confused. So I want
to start with this because this is what my main
confusion comes from. Because the New York Times never issued
a retraction. Leslie Keene, Ralph Fluenthal, Lane Cooper, and even

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Brian Bender to a degree. I think he even went
on some shows and did like they've all talked about
how the os APP was the real program they knew
about ASAPP at the time when they broke the story
in the Times and Politico. So why wasn't Why was
that omitted? Why was that omitted? What was a tip?

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And who was Aleiszando? Because from what I gat, I mean,
there's been so much The Pentagon has come out saying
Alexondo had no responsibilities. Obviously Harry Reid said that's bullshit,
and Harry Reid, I'm inclined to believe. But what was
a tip? Really, it seems to have been a moniker
for us APP in the unclassified areas when they went

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up for Special Access program status. They didn't want to
let people know they were studying ghosts and shit at
Skidwalker Ranch so they kind of lamanized the program name
to a tip and that was what they showed people, right,
They just didn't want anything coming back because remember at
the time, you know, this was really stigmatized. So this

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movie centers around that same story. But if we agree
that that story has flaws in it, what are we
doing here? Like Corbell for instance, this is another thing
that grinds my gears. Corbell he knows el Aleixando. I

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have no doubt that Alexando is involved to some degree.
I think Jay Stratton has Gune on the record saying
that that is the case. But was it funded? Is
the is? And if it wasn't funded, if if whatever
incarnation of Alexando's work with UFOs, if it wasn't funded, Honestly,
I'd give him more credit for splitting his time for free.
So I just don't understand why there's this conflation between

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what os App was what Jim Lakatski has told us
in books like Skinwalkers at the Pentagon written by George Knapp,
James Lakatski and Colem Keller her So there's this big
narrative divide that I just don't understand. Like I don't
get it The New York Times has it wrong. If
what Lakatski says is true, if what George Knapp says

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is true. Right, But they seem to just overlook this
and be like, oh, well, it's not even a big deal.
Oh and it kind of is a big fucking deal,
especially when everyone in this movie, all of their lower thirds,
said that they were advisors to a tip, from Eric
Davis to how put Off to Gary Nolan, all of them,

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they were all advisors to a tip. I had no
fucking idea. I had no idea that that was the case.
What was a tip in that case? Because if it
wasn't funded, the twenty two million dollars went too asap.
By the time that a tip in Alizondo came in,
there was virtually no money left. They were going up
to get more money. And that's when Harry Reid had

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had lost his poll. And and I think James Clappers,
even the one that denied it, and now he's even
in this film, Like, I just I'm just having some
fucking real hard time like battling this in my head.
So I just I just want to know what the
truth is. I'm not saying I really did want to

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start this because I think it's a high point of
my own contention that I don't understand what a tip was,
what Elizondo was working on. I understand what Jay Stratton
was working on was the UAP Task Force. He seems
to be the common thread through all of the programs
up until Arrow, and it's you know, I think he
was helped build the foundation for ARROW and then backed

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out like almost immediately. So and there's been some controversial
things that Jay and Eric Davis have been on record
saying about Elizondo. So I'm not and again I don't
want to sound like an Alexando hater. I'm not an
Alexondo hater. He's a patriot. I read I read his
book three but audible. I didn't read it. I hadn't

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listened shared to me three different times because I wanted
to make sure I'm getting these these things right. But again,
you start seeing these the same names, the same names
pop up every single time, every program, anytime there's money
studying UFOs, the same name show up. Help put off

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Eric Davis carry Nolan to some degree like you're it's
it's it's very clear, and maybe they are the best
at what they do. I have no no quarrel with that.
It's just those same people like Elizondo, like hal put Off,
they start to they they start to worry me. It

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seems they have their their feet on both sides of
the line. They want to tell you more, but they can't.
They're obligated by their NDAs and their oath to the country.
They'll then they'll even I mean, they'll dangle the carat
right in front of you and say you're gonna wish
someone told you this sooner. Like that was like one

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of the lines in the movie. I was like, what
the fuck did I did you just say that? Oof? God,
the movie was really well done. It was really well done.
Really the style like no scary alien cutaways, no X
Files theme. It took the subject seriously, very like deadly seriously.

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And I like that, I really do. I think that's
the way that we need to head. And I think
that really like caught on with James Fox as the phenomenon,
which arguably for me for me scored hire for me personally.
I like the case studies and the actual data and
the actual witnesses. That's what I like. Now what we

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hear have with Age of disclosures is interesting, and I
think it was framed like this from the trailer that
it was going to be, you know, thirty four people
from the government telling you what they know about UFOs.
Except here's the catch. They're only telling you, They're only
telling us what they can tell us. So at what
point do you say that this is the dood ap

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proof version of disclosure? And again that is that a
bad thing? Maybe not? Is that the only way we
get disclosure? Maybe is everything a threat? I don't know,
I don't know. I think I think the scaring people

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part of it. It's a dangerous line, and I know
this is a serious thing, right especially to these people
like Alizondo to how to Eric Davis, to all of
them their patriots first, and I'm okay with that, but
don't dangle the carrot. I feel that that's very disingenuous.

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I feel I feel like if if you were in
the topic, if you knew the UFO community lore, if
you will, this movie wasn't. It didn't really bring anything new.
James Clapper maybe maybe maybe that was a new thing,
But again he was only on screen for a limited time,

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so I know, things get left on the cutting room floor.
But why we're certain things left on the cutting room
floor is my question. That's my question first and foremost
the ASAP stuff, La Katski. They all know about the
bigger picture. Why are we not hearing about it? Why
are we only hearing from a Tip? And Alizondo this movie,

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He's definitely the main character, make no mistake about it.
Alizondo is the core of the story. And again I
am not saying that's a bad thing. What I am
saying is there's all these questions that people have that
haven't been answered. So and again you know Leslie Kane,

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Ralph Blumadal and I'm what I fear is that most
people like Corbel, like Nap, like like Leslie Kane, who
have been in this subject for whatever and have reputation
to uphold. They've built a living on this narrative that
was set fourth in twenty seventeen. So they may have

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conversations with Jim mccatsky. He might tell them directly that
ASOPP was the program that was awarded the twenty two
million dollar contract, that a Tip was a moniker, an
unclassified moniker for us UP. They may tell you all
these things, but then they just let them me. I

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feel like it's they don't want the UFO disclosure movement
to be hurt in any way, so they don't want
to admit that anything's wrong. And I've had a problem
with this for so long, so long, because if we
can't admit when we're wrong, when we're talking about the
most complex, the most existential question of our lie lie

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lifetimes of human humanity, of global histy, if we can't
admit we're humbly wrong, Oh boy, we are starting bad
so again. This movie is really well done. I got
to give Dan Farrah credit all the players that he

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was able to assemble. I mean that's a feat and
the amount of credible qualified individuals. It's amazing to see.
It really is, you know, well rounded. I think from
civilian airspace all the way to the military encounters and
UFOs and nukes. I liked seeing that ufone, UFOs and

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nukes were were talked about. My friend Bob Salice was
was interviewed for this film. U He was on screen
for like two minutes. They talked about Malmstrom and I
get it. You know, movies have got run times, and
I think even in so Dan Farrah also did a
Rogan interview the day that it came out, and he

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had said that he had like a four hour director's
cut of this Age of Disclosure film, and then you
need to start. I'm just I'm very interested to see
what they'll do with that. There's got to be so
much stuff that they recorded with Clapper, like with and
and Clapper, I have a real issue with just as

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a person. He's been known to perjure himself to Congress.
Oh like so and then told us that he gave
us the least hurtful truth or something to that degree,
like the least impactful lie, and that's how he like

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and I and I again, I understand this whole government
world is is dicey. It's dicey. You don't want to
go to jail, you don't want to break an NDA,
you don't want to commit treason. All of that stuff
is so acceptable, But just say it, Just say it,
give it to us up front, right, don't call yourself

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a whistleblower if you've gone through DoD prepublication, because that's
not a whistleblower. Again, so that these terms get thrown
around a lot, and I think that's what we need
to be careful because it's it's it's not lying, it's
exaggerating or conflating. And like the skeptics, they're already so good.

(28:24):
The debunkers are already they're they're so talented. If you
give them a reason, they're gonna poke holes in this
whole fucking thing. And then until they are shown the
physical evidence that everyone wants right, they're never going to
change their mind and they're going to continue to be opposition.

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And when someone as credible as what I you know,
a nuclear launch control officer, comes out and says, hey,
something's weird is happening, Like Mario Woods. Mario Woods was
featured in his Age of Disclosure, albeit for only a
couple of minutes. They didn't get into a lot of cases.
It was a lot of a generality about the topic

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of UFOs. How there was a tip which tried to
do the right thing and tried to study UFOs. It
got caught up in the bureaucracy. He couldn't get the
job done from the inside, so he had to resign,
and he had to resign to continue his mission. And
this is Alisando, of course, and that's the story that

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we've been fed. And again you look at nids right,
look at nids, Look at the big low era, then
jump and fast forward to a tip and then to TTSA,
and then and so on and so forth. You see

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the same people telling the same stories. So again, it's
not I don't think Age of Disclosure was anything new
for anyone who knows the topic. And if they're, if they're,
if their goal was to get to the general public,
that's cool, that's great. I'm glad. I'm very glad actually,

(30:13):
but are they gonna watch it? I know it's I
think it's currently ranked one on on Prime. But again,
the UFO community and like the people it touches, I
think are it is a lot more than it was,
say two thousand and four when the Nimbit's happened. But
it's not. It's not the consensus by any means. It's

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a small group in the grand scheme. And if it's
if Age of Disclosures purpose is to get to the
general audience slapping a twenty five dollars tag on it,
that's a rough deal. I don't People won't even go
to the movie theaters anymore if it's not a fucking
Marvel movie or some big action blockbuster summer blockbuster. You

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think they're gonna pay twenty five dollars for this movie?
Who I mean? And I'll give it to Dan. He
did say in that interview with Rogan that he showed
it to many streamers and all of them watched it.
They liked it, but they declined they didn't want to
pick it up. Why is that? I don't know. Do

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I think Dan is a bad person? No? I think
he made a great fucking movie. It just was marketed
a certain way, and it used certain monikers and labels.
For instance, I hope I won't get in trouble, but
I'll put off a tip. Chief Scientists Eric Davis a

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TIP scientific advisor. Were the advisors to a tip? Or
were the advisors to us UP? I know they were
connected to NIDS and Bigelow, so I know, and we
know from skinwalkers at the Pentagon that they were connected
to us APP. But what is a tip? No one

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seems to be able to define a tip for me
because it was not the pro and it shouldn't be
like terrible thing to say it was not the program
that was awarded twenty two million dollars. We know that
that was us HAP. Are we saying it was the
same program. Lakatsky says, no, Elizondo has said no, So

(32:35):
that leaves me with a huge flaw right from the jump.
And I don't know, you know, I'll probably get ridiculed
for even saying that, but it it. It's hard for
me to tell someone to watch something when I know
that there is some sort of inaccuracy in it. The

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twenty seventeen article did a lot of good. It set
us on the path we're on today. I argue we
wouldn't have this conversation right now if it wasn't for
said article. But no retractions ever made. No one ever
talks about it, and if you talk about it, you

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get silenced. It's weird. It's weird. Now, am I saying?
Am I on this side or the other? I'm not.
I'm not saying that I listen to everybody. I still
if doctor Greer puts out a movie, I buy it
because I hear everybody out I am observing, and I'm

(33:42):
simply stating what I'm observing. The A tip and the
AWSEP thing. I would like to be a little bit
more defined because I think it's a big deal. I
think it's a big deal, and on the surface, I
think it's to most people they would say, oh, it's harmless.
But again, like the New York Times article, it is

(34:05):
fundamentally untrue. Ass Up was the program that was awarded
the twenty two million, and if that was omitted on purpose,
While not false, it completely disregards a huge portion of
this core story building off that threat narrative, the national

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security concern. It's dicey. It's dicey, but understandable for storytelling
and to get people motivated. Sometimes you got to scare
them a little to get them motivated. I just want
people to know what should motivate, Like, do I think
we should be scared of UFOs? No, I don't. I don't.

(34:57):
They've if they wanted to, and us we wouldn't have
gotten out of the the Stone Age right or at
any time, they could just hurl an asteroid from the
belt at us and boom reset. The apes of thermonuclear
weapons are gone. Start again. The optic in UFO sightings

(35:24):
with nuclear data and more nuclear testing. That concerns me.
That concerns me, so I think, But again, I think
there's a lot of good things in the movie. I'm
starting there because I'm starting there. It's my main contention point.
It's really my only contention point. I like hearing from
these guys. How put Off again goes into it that

(35:48):
he was in the in the Bush era. He was
on this panel if you will, or this think tank,
and this is something I really really want to dig into.
He was in this stinc tank from the George Bush
era where they were apparently deciding on whether or not
to do some sort of disclosure. And they were broken

(36:11):
up into small groups. And these are leading scientists, they
were contractors. Anyone worth their salt in any of these
related or touching fields was brought in for this. How
put Off was one of them. I'm sure there was
plenty others of names that you would know if you
heard them that was involved, but just haven't come forward yet.

(36:36):
And they were given the task to find out what
would be would it be positive or negative? Like overall,
to disclose the information that UFOs are a thing, that
we are not alone in the universe, and that we
have acquired material, whether it be from Roswell, from Corona,

(36:58):
from was that one in Italy, Magenta, whether wherever it's from,
We've acquired biologics of a non human intelligence. Could this
be what our ancestors were referring to as gods or
angels and demons? I think that's because that's another thing

(37:21):
to talk about in the movie. They were surprised that
people's religious beliefs came into play. I don't find that
odd at all. I think if someone's a hardcore religious
person and you tell them you're digging into UFOs at
Skinwalker Ranch, they might not want to hang around you anymore.
And haven't we proven or Lakatski and all them proven

(37:43):
that they might be right in having that mindset, the
hitchhiker effect, a Vanda syndrome, all that shit. You got
to ask, are we all talking about the same thing
and we're just us in different words? Because that's what
it looks like to me. Angels And like what I

(38:04):
find it'd be a great case is James Fox and
moment of contact, the being smelled like ammonia or what
the fucking brim fire? What is that word? Someone in
the chat? No, what is it smells like rotten eggs? Ammonia? No, no, no, no, whatever.

(38:35):
So the being smelled like this, and it's exactly and
it had red eyes and when the girls saw it.
They thought it was a demon because it had red
eyes and it smelled like sulfur. Thank you, sulfur, surf sulfur.
No one actually helped me. I picked it up. So
I think that's a very good case in showing that, like,

(38:58):
are we just conflating the two like angels and demons
and aliens just using different words. I think that. I
think that the probability is high. It's very very high.
If I think there's if there's one thing that we
can all agree on, no matter what side of the
aisle you're on, no matter what faction of disclosure you're in,

(39:23):
I think we can all agree that evil exists. Evil exists,
and it is tangible when you when you get around it.
I don't know, And so a lot of people like
Gary Nolan has specifically worked in that area, and uh

(39:47):
like the effects from being around UFOs, cancer, damage to
the eyes, like like retinal burns, skin u skin diseases,
skin cancer again, just cancer in general. But you look

(40:07):
at cases like Jim Peniston at Rendelsham weird, Travis Walton weird, Right,
so aage of disclosure doesn't really get into any of
the truth like cases, but they do touch on some
of the nuclear ones. Bob Jacobs, I gotta ask, has

(40:29):
anyone ever heard that Terry Lovelace story, because that is
not the one the story that I know about Terry.
I when I had heard Terry was in the movie,
I was like, Oh, that's odd. He doesn't seem to
fit the bill and no, no offense to him, but
his case doesn't really line up with the others, at
least what they were going for. And then he tells

(40:49):
this kind of like mundane story of seeing a giant craft.
Not that not seeing a giant craft's mundane, but in
terms of like the ran picture a grand scheme of it,
it seemed just didn't I don't know, it wasn't the
Terry lovely story that I was used to. Maybe he
said multiple and I just didn't know. Stylized as far

(41:14):
as tone, tone was fantastic. This movie felt like it
flew by for me. The pacing, the tone, the editing
all so like top of the line, and that's what
I'm excited for. Do you guys think that this movie

(41:37):
could actually move the needle? When someone asked me that,
I said, probably not, but I think the phenomenon, I
think word of mouth for that movie was what really
made that film successful, generally successful, The Doctor Greer one unacknowledged,

(42:03):
Like there's a word of mouth spread on those films.
So do I think that will happen here with age
of disclosure potentially with guys like Rogan and them plugging
in as much as they are. Yeah, it probably will
get seen by a lot of people. So there is
and there's even whispers now of like a presidential advisory

(42:23):
board being implicated or I'm not implicated initiated. So and
I think Trump could be I tweeted about this the
other day last night. In fact, where if I was
in my second term and I was known for like

(42:44):
going against the grain, like he is going against like
the deep state, if you will, quote unquote, we might
have an actual shot with this guy to step up
to the podium and at least and it might not
come in the way and this is the thing, It
might not come in the way that everyone's prophesied before.

(43:07):
He might be on the podium talking about something and
then slip it in slip and by slipping in, I
mean like it wouldn't just be a press conference that
UFOs exist, like, it would be something else, and then
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about that, but I
just it won't be like pure disclosure moments like that moment.

(43:28):
It won't be the my fellow Americans. You know, I
feel like I picture I always picture Barack Obama. I'm
saying that my fellow Americans. Trump doesn't say my fellow
Americans and speetures. I don't think like we're not alone.
We never were something like that. But h I've had

(43:49):
a lot of fine looking boys come up and tell
me that UFOs are real, saying his Trump voice be hilarious,
fucking hilarious, but people wouldn't believe him just because he's Trump.
I think. So it would have to be like a
unified NATO effort. Maybe even maybe if you can get

(44:09):
the United States and Russia to do it at the
same time. I think you have a real disclosure there.
So you know, maybe if if Trump were to do it,
pulled the trayer on it, maybe Putin would follow, right,
maybe maybe President She would follow, So then they could
be more open about their subjugation and exploitation efforts, because again,

(44:30):
you can't tell your friends about telling your enemies. So
if everybody knows that everybody knows. Well, then we're back
on evil. I'm not evil equal playing field. So there's
a lot of people in this movie. Like I said, totally,
I think it works very well. I think the message
that they're trying to send is that there's a legacy

(44:53):
UFO program. And Lakatski, in the recent episode of Weaponize,
had been asked this but from Jeremy Corbel, and I
think I know now why he asked it. The timing
wasn't the timing was not coincidence, but he asked Lakatski
had he been read into any other legacy UFO program.

(45:15):
And Lakatski, doing what a good former DIA officer would do,
he deflects and says, I can't answer that, but here
are my clearances. I held a cute clearance. That's public information.
I think he's trying to say yes, right, He's trying

(45:37):
to say yes in the way that they do. I
think Lakatski was read in on the legacy UFO program,
the one that is the bad guy in age of Disclosure,
because they're like the ones that are apparently putting hits
out on Alizondo. That's crazy. If that's true, that's crazy.

(46:00):
Like no one Alizondo like, I think he could hold
his own as a counter intel guy. Probably knows what's up,
probably as like a bunker of his own somewhere. So
I but putting the head on that guy from the
legacy UFO program. If that's true, that's wild right, Because
now we're talking and he says it in the movie.

(46:20):
I'm not gonna spoil this because I told it, told
you I wouldn't. He says something in the movie at
the end, fucking wild, wild wild, and he says it
with a straight face. Anyone who knows the movie will
know what I'm talking about. But what he says that

(46:42):
the United States is able to do to its citizens
if needed, if they pose a threat. Ooh man. So
if he ends up in the Potomac, I guess we
know what happened. And maybe he was genuine. I really
like there's one. So anyone who knows Alexando knows that

(47:04):
he's a five observables guy. Did he My favorite part
of this movie was the way that they conveyed that
it was like Alexander teaching it. It was the funniest
thing I'd ever seen of my fucking life. I laughed
so hard. But I will say with with some of

(47:26):
the issues that I had, like I said, and and
some of the issues that I had, I think I've
already got over them. That's it's really all of it.
It's the off SAP a tip thing. That is where
I'm like, we, I think we need more clarity. So
Dan Farra puts together Age of Disclosure. Alissando is the

(47:47):
main character. Elisondo testified, I was there, testified before Congress.
Will not say anything that will not well, will not
say anything that the d D has not approved him
to say him. Hal put Off and Eric Davis are

(48:08):
involved in the program to some degree and are trying
to tell us that there's another legacy program that has
been performing crash retrieval programs. David Grush has talked about this,
what's that other guy? J Jake Barber has talked about this.
Michael Herrera has talked about this. Now Lakatski, if you

(48:31):
want to say it, has talked about this, that there's
a legacy UFO program. So if there's one thing that
I think I took from it is that the legacy
UFO program is something that like whether it's ConA blue
or something different, not not ConA blue. Why did I
say that? Whether it's something we've never heard of before

(48:56):
or something that we might have heard of through other people.
So another thing that was left out of Age of
disclosure was the amacic consolation stuff. They did have a
good I think it was in the probably was in
the film at one point, but was then taken out
because it seemed like they had a clear in when
they started talking about this moment that Alexander testified. Now,

(49:21):
I'm it's fine, it's funny because I met Alexander outside
of the hearing that day. I didn't see any cameras
with him, not cameras that were because they had some
footage in this movie from those hearings that I'd never
seen before, particularly the Alexander walking in right. But I

(49:44):
was out there when he walked inside. I had left
the room because I had got my seat in the hearing,
and I had left and then walked outside, and all
the witnesses were there out there, and you can kind
of see it in the film. They're all out there
like talking to each other, and that's when Ali Zonda
starts walking in. Unless they redid that for like dramatic effect,

(50:09):
which would be fine making movies is sometimes you know,
you didn't get everything the first run, But there was
some footage in there that I loved that was like
from the hearings itself. And there's one moment where like
David Framer like winks at the camera. That was fucking brilliant.
Whoever edited that moment brilliant. So they must have been

(50:32):
filming this for a long time in secret. I think
what he said on the Rogan interview is around four years.
So this film, this has been being filmed for four
years while that's happening, Eric Davis and all of them,

(50:55):
the UAB Disclosure Fund, they go to Congress that other time.
A lot of that got included in the film. So
I just want to know what got left on the
cutting room floor. I would see if they could maybe
do like a follow up or like maybe even like
a director's cut. I think would be cool to show
us some like the uncut interviews, like like like Bob Sallas,

(51:19):
Bob Jacobs, Mario. I think they probably only had like
a little bit of screen time in the actual cut,
but you have to assume that they filmed like thirty
forty minute interviews with these guys, So I'd be willing
to see those or I'd want to I'd definitely be
willing to pay for some sort of director's cut that
like incorporated more of those interviews. But again, you know,

(51:46):
I think Dan was doing what Dan was telling the
story that he was told that he was, like Alexander's
the main character. Alexander tells that story. So if you're
going in expecting to hear something different, I guess you won't.
You probably won't see anything new, but what you see,

(52:08):
what you will see is is a director that has
worked on some amazing films, Ready Player one being one
of them. He's worked with Spielberg that when those people
start taking it seriously, what this movie is is a
very serious take on the national security implications of UFOs

(52:34):
existing and breaching our nuclear sites and our most sensitive facilities.
They definitely want to get that message across. They definitely
got the message across. My issue with that is, I
think it's one side of the story. Why are these
things breaching our nuclear sites is a much better question.

(52:58):
I don't think they're there to blow us up. I
think we're fundamentally the problem. Human beings are the problem.
Too aggressive, too emotional, That's why I waited to do
this review. I was gonna do it the night at
Friday night when it came out, right after I watched it.

(53:21):
But I was so like dialed to ten that I
knew I wouldn't. It would have come off wrong, and
I don't want that. A lot of really cool what
I will say that Marco Rubio, Marco Rubio, Jay Stratton,

(53:41):
Eric Davis how put off probably worse standouts the main
characters they got probably the most screen time, Gary Nolan,
Tim Gradat, Jeff new To Telly trying to go through
my head right now. A lot of them are in

(54:03):
it great stuff. Like the amount that they were throwing
at you was so overwhelmingly like like these guys that
they're putting in front of you, the credibility that is
instituted just by their you know, cvs. We're talking decades

(54:24):
in decades and decades of service to this country. Whether
it was a in a capacity that was you know,
in the military or intelligence is different. But they had
it all star studed cast, star studed cast. But and
they did start talk about some cool stuff how they think,

(54:45):
like what the what the main theory that they have
is for how these things work and or how they operate,
how they not how they work, but how they how
they do, what they do, why we observe them, you know,
seemingly defying physics. I don't think they are defying physics,
but seemingly banking a ninety deg return, which would turn

(55:09):
any human into putting. To quote Helt put Off, I
can't do the fravor wink, but they definitely got I
think they're onto something there. And what I really like
is that they didn't get into like specifying whether it
was aliens or something interdimensional. A lot of talk about

(55:34):
like Andre Carson was in this. Andre Carson brings up
some of the USO stuff, and that again, that's where
they go at. Tim got at. I just think we
could have gone in a little deeper, which would have
been cool. It would have been cool. But I get it.
Run time, you have to get it to a place
like as a filmmaker, you need to lock it in

(55:55):
and you need it to be digestible, and you need
there to be a story arc, like a through to
through story arc, right, and a message that you're trying
to send. And the message I think the film is
trying to say is that these things are real, and
I agree with that and that that we need to

(56:17):
that it warrants further investigation. I agree with that, it's
just the people that are telling it to you. That
you know, if you have any biases that you're gonna
it's you're not gonna want to watch it. Like if
you don't like Alizondo, you're not gonna want to watch

(56:39):
it because you're not gonna believe them. You already have
a preconceived notion to not I don't I like the guy,
So you know, I I can watch it and kind
of remove myself from that and still ask the questions
that need to be asked and at least take something
from it. I thought it was, like I said, very

(57:00):
interesting that they talked about the religious aspect and how
that played a big part. Like Jay Stratton specifically was
very very like stunned by this. They couldn't believe that
they were getting pushed back from religious fundamentalists. If you

(57:22):
weren't getting pushed back from religious fundamentalists, I'd have a
weird I'd have a much bigger issue with that. I
have a much bigger issue with that because that that's like,
because that that would mean like even they don't believe
it's true. But so yeah, a lot of the TTSA people,
So you see Chris Mellon Elizondo, uh and with TTSA,

(57:45):
you know how how put off Eric Davis, Travis Tailor
Travis Taylor was another one. They are all involved in
some degree on the other side of the line, and
their allegiance is to the safety of this nation, which

(58:07):
is commendable. Of course I want to be safe. I
live in this country. But what I just don't like
playing both sides. I don't like when people play both
sides bothers me And I get why you can only
say what you can say legally, but don't don't tell

(58:29):
me that something's gonna happen. And I'm gonna wish I
knew sooner. Wish I knew what, wish I knew? What?
What am I not preparing for? What are we not
preparing for? It's upsetting, It really is. It's upsetting. But

(58:53):
I really liked Under Carson and brought up a lot
of the USO stuff. I think that Richard Dolan, if
anyone does want to dive into us Richard Dolan is
one of the best people for that. A lot of
good people in the movie. Again, like I said, Gary Nolan,

(59:14):
and I think I've gone through Bob Jacobs, Jay Straw
and not technically Ross Coultart, but he was in it.
They did touch on the grush stuff, which I find
I didn't. I feel like they didn't touch enough on
the grush stuff. I was wondering why maybe that would
be in a sequel or something. But I like the movie.

(59:37):
I like the movie. I like the movie. I do.
I do. So what I gave it, what I talited
out as with with some of the problems that I
had and some of the not some of the things
I liked, it ended up peeing uh, seven point nine
out of ten. So that was my final score was

(59:57):
seven point nine out of ten, which is a great score.
The Phenomenon came out like eight point four from James Fox.
That same day that Age of Disclosure came out, which
you'll have to see if you want to know the
ins and outs. Again, I don't want to go into
too much detail about what was talked about so without

(01:00:22):
just being general. Like the legacy UFO program, which I
think they get into a lot of cool stuff with
that and how it's broken down. I think all of
us have had this inkling that the CIA was the
main proponent or the overseer, and then under that was
Department of Energy, right, Department of Energy, A lot of

(01:00:49):
things like Department of Energy, I think is a very
unique one because when like Grush talked about this, and
I think it was the Jesse Michaels the see Michael's
video after his Coultart interview, but he was talking about
the classification process for the atomic secrecy and anything that
emits a radiological signature is born classified. So the Air Force,

(01:01:18):
the Department of Energy, CIA, and then private contractors. I
mean somewhere in there is the legacy UFO program a
name of or maybe several programs, but there's definitely crash
retrieval happening. What do they have in their possession? I

(01:01:39):
think Rubio brings up a lot of great stuff in
this movie about how that stuff can run away in
the long term, right because government gives it to the contractor.
Senator is only senator for so long. The next guy
comes in, he has a frack of the knowledge the

(01:02:00):
first guy started with, and then the the guy that
comes in after that guy has zero percent knowledge and
never knew that this thing existed that they gave to
the contractor. So then the contractor just doesn't say anything
and they keep exploiting the technology, and then they come

(01:02:21):
out to the public and you know, they got this breakthrough,
this breakthrough, you know, fiber optics if you want to
use an example, or the transistor. All these things have
been rumored, maybe even AI rumored to have been reverse
engineered from alien or not alien, but non human technology.

(01:02:43):
And with some of these crashes, biologics came with them. Grush.
I believe Grush. I believe Grush, Everyone believed. Everyone seems
to have the same notion of Grush, So I find
that to be kind of comforting. But then there's other
people on the other side, on the other like Debunker

(01:03:05):
side that saw his you know, he had a couple
like mental issue mental breakdowns PTSD, and they like that
that's all that that's the nail in the coffin for them.
Nothing he ever says will be true to them because
they've already convinced themselves that this is bullshit. And that's

(01:03:29):
the problem. We're facing a lot in this community, and
it sucks. It's a lot of stories without the average
person who can't sit around and fully your shit to
you get like you, they're expected to take your word.

(01:03:50):
I mean, and and and when it comes to al Zondo, like, dude,
you're literally a disinformation person. That was your job, but
now everyone's just supposed to blindly like believe it. And
I think the general person doesn't like wouldn't have to

(01:04:15):
be lied to to convince them that we're not alone.
I think if you surveyed one hundred people fifty years ago,
maybe sixty years ago, ninety nine out of one hundred
would have said we were alone. I think if you
take that same survey today, ninety nine will say we're
not alone. That the statistical improbability of the vastness of

(01:04:39):
the cosmos, the sheer scale an age of the known universe,
there's such if we're alone. I think that's arguably fucking scarier,
arguably scarier than the cosmos teeming with life. So I

(01:05:02):
guess my main contention, like I said, with this, is
the is the the bigelow stuff, right, the big old stuff.
And then people like Carbel, oh Jesus he was young
in that picture. Corbel, who seem to know both sides,
but don't pick one, not not pick one, but enlighten us,

(01:05:24):
Like you can't interview Lukatski and ask the things that
you ask him and then like call Alizondo up and
be like, hey, dude, we're dudes, we're besties. I mean,
you can, but people take note of that shit. And
I think that's where our problem is right now, is
like you you either have to be with Alizondo or

(01:05:44):
you're against him, and that that's again another thing that's
a dangerous place to be. And he is the main
character of this story. He's the main character of the
New York Times article. He's the main character of that
show Investigate whatever that he did on with National Geograph?

(01:06:05):
Uh is it National Geographic that he did it with?
Maybe unidentified? That show, he's the main character on that.
So if you had seen all that stuff, none of
this will be new, none of the people will be new.
The way the information is presented is in a really
cool way and in a modern, very serious way. So

(01:06:31):
that's the difference. And I think if we can rally
around that aspect of it, we might be able to
push the ball forward. And uh, I think in the
movie they call for the amnesty aspect, and I'm just
wondering like why this, and then the amnesty and the

(01:06:55):
what's the other thing, the the domain, the domain or
they can seize everything. The government can like seize shit,
like people like Jacques Vallet have raised question about that
and concern about that of that domain aspect where the

(01:07:18):
government can just seize things because if we give them
that right back, or if we give that ability to
our government, they never have to give you an explanation
on why they're seizing what you have, and they could
just say, well, we have we have it on good
authority that it's non human and we need it, and

(01:07:41):
we're going to seize this this technology that you have,
this material that you have, and they don't have to
give you an excuse. It's that's part of it. So
that is why the UAP Disclosure Act had a lot
of problems. People had a lot of problems with that

(01:08:01):
part of it and the amnesty part. But I do
think we're gonna have to meet the legacy programs halfway,
maybe not full amnesty, but only for those who come
forward and tell the truth. Right those people, maybe given
that you didn't murder somebody to keep this secret, you

(01:08:25):
should be safe, right, you should be safe at least
not have your life taken away. But if you engaged
in activity that harmed, hurt or killed people to cover
this secret up, there's no amnesty for you. Whether you
get it here on earth or in the next life,

(01:08:45):
there's no amnesty. You will be punished sooner or later.
The universe works in very funny ways like that. So
if anyone out there, if you are part of this
and you are like this, I'm not talking to Alixander,
but all of them, anybody that makes a clean that

(01:09:11):
UFOs are real, if they are lying or embellishing, yeah,
it will hurt us. You're only gonna have to answer
to one person, and that's yourself. And if you want

(01:09:34):
to lie to become famous or to get like Dan
Farr to do a thing about you, I mean, that's
your prerogative, but at the end of the day, you
will answer for it eventually. So I just don't think
it's worth it if that is what you are doing.
That's to anyone, any UFO quote unquote whistleblower, if you're

(01:09:56):
not telling the truth, you're only hurting yourself. You're just
lying to yourself and you're making the rest of the
people in the community. You look stupid. We'll pay a price,
but we'll move forward. You will have to answer for that,
whether it's to your God or do you whatever, the

(01:10:17):
universe or the simulators, You're gonna fucking answer for it.
I want to trust guys like Gary Nolan. I want
to trust guys like how put off in Eric Davis.
I want to trust Elizondo. I want to trust Tim Goddet.

(01:10:38):
I do trump Tim Gott I do. I want to
trust these people, and maybe that's maybe that's my blind
spot that I want to believe and if anyone is
taking advantage of that want that I have to believe.

(01:11:00):
I mean, I've seen something. I've seen things that I
can't explain. I know it's real, but whether what you're
you everyone, the modern disclosure narrative is real, whether that
part of it's real, or if it's just a way
to see chaos, get people riled up and then maybe
get some funding. Like what was it all for? Are

(01:11:23):
they about to like false flag us? Are they about
to trick us and think into an alien invasion to
unite humanity? Doesn't seem so far fetched all of a sudden,
But I wanted to watch a couple of clips, not

(01:11:45):
of the movie. We'll get immediately taken down. But I
recommend watching it. I recommend, I recommend paying the money.
I'm watching it. It's a good movie if you if
you like if you're in the disclosure, like, if you
have any vested interest in not vested, if you have

(01:12:05):
an interest in disclosure, you'll like the movie. You'll like it.
It's good. It's very well done. The score is immaculate
as well. That was something I needed to bring up.
That's what rose it to like point. I don't want
to say how much it rose it, but that that
rose the score of the film for me was the

(01:12:27):
the score. The music of the movie was really good,
really really good. But I wanted to watch why have You?
I wanted to watch part of this apparently Grush one
on Fox News. I haven't watched it yet, so I
wanted to see maybe we canna watch together. They might
demonetize this video because of that. But after that, I'll

(01:12:50):
start going through reading some of the comments. If anyone,
I mean, if you want to ask something or let
me know what you thought of the movie, maybe we're
gonna have a quick recap of that, like did you
guys think it was overall good. I thought it was good.
I thought it was great. I just have a couple issues,
just a couple issues. Let me know, let me know

(01:13:13):
what you think. I bet people are. I mean, I'd
be interested to see what like Veted that dude is
saying and uh Polarity. Those are two people that I've
been paying attention too lately, not paying attention to because
I think they are right, but they're doing something right. Sorry,

(01:13:41):
I gotta share this here. It is boom. So I
haven't watched this yet, but David Grush, who was part
of Age of Disclosure, not a huge part, but he
went on Fox News with Brett Bear and did the interview.
So I just want to watch a couple of minutes

(01:14:02):
of it with you dudes, with you peeps.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Welcome back to the special report.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Let me know what you thought of Age of Disclosure.
If you can send a super chat, come a member.
Really really helps. And I'm gonna be doing so many
more live streams now that the internet is fixed. Here
one of my cameras died, so I'm just back to
one angle. But I'm really like gonna start building out
and doing more of these live shows. Yeah, but final

(01:14:30):
takeaways for Age of Disclosure. I think, at least for
what I'll say about it is I have some issue
with some of the things that are some of the
background and some of the details, but I think the
overall effort was really well done. It was probably done
with a good intent on Dan Fower's part. I think
he's a very very talented filmmaker, and if you know,

(01:14:53):
guys like him continue to make movies in this realm
of the topic. I think the sky's the limit, and
I think the moon the needle could be moved. I'm
already hearing people taught whispering about a presidential presidential investigation
into this, So I mean it's getting people talking, it's

(01:15:14):
doing its job. I guess let's check out this. Check
out this interview GRESHI. Where was that op that he
was supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Continue our series looking at unidentified anominalists anomalists say that
easy what many people still call UFOs UAPs with the
director of the Age of Disclosure. It's a new documentary
out about a suspected government cover up over UAPs for decades,
which they used Tonight and select theaters around the country.

(01:15:48):
Is also available on Prime Video it's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Powerful, just gonna be careful.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
In thirty four former and current government officials, including witnesses
who have testified before Congress. Earlier, we spoke with another
whistleblower who is now a Congressional Task Force member on
the UAP subject.

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do
we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
Biologics came with some of these recoveries?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Were they?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
I guess human or non human? Biologics?

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Non human?

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Well, let's get some insight into the UAP discovers and
what Congress is trying to do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Do I have the wrong interview here? Guys? Is the
Grush interview really only seven minutes?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Ing US now retired Air Force Major David Grush, who
has been a whistleblower on the subject of UFOs, UAPs
and government transparency. He's a special advisor now to the
House UAP Task Force. Thanks for being here, think you're
having on Brett. So since then, people say, where is
the evidence? What's happening? Why don't we know more? Right

(01:17:01):
now almost two years later.

Speaker 7 (01:17:04):
Well, certainly the last administration didn't didn't help in My hearing,
of course, was during the last administration, and they were
not exactly super transparent on this issue unfortunately. But now
that the task force has been created, I've been able
to guide the members within the boundaries of what they're
actually clear.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
When people, as from the most recent.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Lit I just say, there's a lot out there. There's
a lot of people talking about encounters. There's a lot
of people talking about videos, and we've seen a lot
of that. Can we just cut it down to you
believe that we have encountered alien beings and that they've
come to Earth, and that we know about it as
a US government.

Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
That seems to be a case I don't like to
characterize necessarily where they came from. There are definitely some
kind of non human sentience, but it is true, believe
it or not. We've recovered the vehicles and we actually
have physical proof. And I was actually partially cleared into
some of those activities. It was beyond the oral testimony
provided to me. I actually had partial access to the

(01:18:12):
data and actually read the intelligence reports resulting from those
programs with your own eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Yes. And so when people say this is kooky, this
is out there, there's nothing to back it up.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
I don't seek for other parts of the government, but
I can tell you NASA, which I speak for, is
open and transparent with our data.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Do you believe what mister David Cross said or is lying?

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
Where's the evidence?

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
What do you say?

Speaker 7 (01:18:45):
Certainly members of this current administration are very well aware
of this reality. Certainly the current president is very knowledgeable
on this subject, and I trust his leadership on it,
and I think he's assembled in an a team cabinet,
and I really belie leave if Trump wants to be
the greatest president and the most consequential leader likely in
world history, he certainly has to knowledge the capabilities and

(01:19:08):
understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
I have access, but and I speak to people about it.
I've had actually meetings on it. People that are very
smart and very solid have said they believe there is
something out there, and you know, it makes sense that
they could be. I've never been convinced, even despite that,
you know, I just for some reason it's.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
Not my thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
So you think, one he knows, and two he's open
to transparency on UAPs.

Speaker 7 (01:19:36):
He certainly is very well informed on this issue.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Leave it at that.

Speaker 7 (01:19:40):
I don't want to get ahead of what the president
might want to reveal. Personally.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
There's been a role to cover this up, you're saying,
through administrations, and there have been people who have been
threatened and told not to testify.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
I was physically threatened even before I sent in my
Intelligence Community Inspector General report under the previous administration. I
actually had to go and seek legal protection that way
because I was, you know, literally in fear, both professionally
and in my personal life.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
And when you mentioned in that testimony of recovering the
pilots or or remains non human, that's something that you
saw as far as the intelligence with your eyes.

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
Yes, And it is a very uncomfortable even for me
now as as somebody who's seen and experienced it, even
talking about it, because it's so outside a normal person's
worldview to understand that there is this biological sentience set
have piloted these crafts that don't necessarily look one hundred

(01:20:38):
percent like you and I.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
Or their pictures where there there were, yes, there were.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
When I said another planet or from outer space, you
said not, we don't know where they're from. It's an
interdimensional what are we talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
I've talked to a lot of i'll called graybeards on
the program that is a subject of hot debate on origin.
I've as at else.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Just think of like Eric Davis with like a Gandolf Beard.
Someone make that with AI. I just have it Eric Davis,
but be Gandolf. Uh. That's exactly what interest.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Of physics formally as well in my background, I leave
an open mind on what the origin is. Certainly there
is the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and they could be coming
from elsewhere off Earth, but I don't usually go there
because I did not see that data, and I'm not
conversant in the high confidence theories that the US government had.

Speaker 8 (01:21:38):
I'm not aware of any remains that the Department has of,
you know, any signs of extra terrestrial beings or activity
or technology.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
You say, we the US government note, Okay, see what
she just said. We, And this is the same thing
that Kirkpatrick an Arrow take note that they often do.
Why are they leaning into that word extra terrestrial specifically,

(01:22:11):
because if they have not determined, if they really don't
know where they're from, which that's what it seems to be,
no one wants to label it, at least from like
the grush side. They don't want to label it. They
don't know. But then the government turns around and says,
we have no proof of extraterrestrial whoa, whoa, whoa. No

(01:22:33):
one said that it was just under the extraterrestrial banister
or banner. It could be future humans, it could be interdimensional.
Like you. Again, this might be a case of you
might not be lying. There is no proof that it's
extra terrestrials per se. Could be coming from our fucking ocean. Right,

(01:22:56):
that's not extraterrestrial, that's ultra terrestrial. So are they just
lying to us by using the correct wording? I think
that's fair to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
But there are many other governments around the world.

Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Did they know they have their own programs? And like
I said two and a half years ago, we have
been in arms race with our peer competitors, you know,
namely Russia and China, and they have their own programs
in this regard. And I was actually able to view
a body of intelligence that discussed adversarial programs. And I'll
leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
We've recovered things, you say, yeah, bodies and physical remains.
Was there a sense that the motive of whether how
they got here, what they were doing. Was it peaceful?
Not peaceful?

Speaker 7 (01:23:43):
We've seen a mixed bag of activity and motive and
intent why they're visiting. That's once again that gets into
our assessments. Not necessarily, we can't quite understand the intent
of some of the sentience and why they're visiting. Could
it because as we have interesting genetic material on Earth,

(01:24:03):
we're a Jurassic Park tourist attraction for them? Could be
a myriad of reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
For the other people who are coming out, you say
to them what you've obviously faced, intimidation, You talked about harassment.
There are reports that others have.

Speaker 7 (01:24:19):
To I say that there's hope. Certainly Congress values with
the blower information right now, and certainly I believe there's
an appetite with the administration to do the right thing
on this as well. And there's some other things that
are happening behind the scenes that I'll let the administration
discuss when they're ready.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Okay, Well, we appreciate your time and we'll follow every element.
It's fascinating. Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Hey, Sean Hannity here, Hey, click here to subscribe to
Fox News YouTube page.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Is that really the whole interview? That was the whole thing.
That was the whole thing. It was there more that
I'm just like, is that just like a clip? Anyway? Yeah,

(01:25:16):
that was kind of cool. Maybe we could play is
maybe there's a clip of Dan Farah on Rogan that
we could play. I thought that was going to be
at least fifteen minutes to round out. So anyway, what
is the poll at on on on YouTube? I have
a poll put out forty two votes. Okay, did you

(01:25:39):
enjoy the new documentary by Dan Farah age of disclosure?
Sixty percent said yes, fourteen percent said no, twenty six
percent said more of the same. It was okay, I
think that's fair. That's fair, that's a very fair. Again,
that's kind of where I'm at. Sixty percent kind of
lines up like really well with not really because my

(01:26:01):
score is like a seventy nine out of one hundred
if it's based on like seven to seven pointing out
of ten. So I guess I was a little higher
than the audience. But I thought it was well done.
I thought like the editing it was really really well done.
Uh specifically the score magnificent, some of the content choices. Again,

(01:26:30):
I think we're on the right track, We're on the
right track. Make no mind, make no mistake, make no
mistake about it. I don't think that Alessando's a bad person.
I don't whether and I don't. People want to say
he is, but I don't think that's true. I don't think.

(01:26:52):
I don't think any of those people are bad people.
I just wonder what they're actually what they actually know.
Oh and I don't know. I don't want to get
into that because that's gonna it's just it's just gets
into speculation, just gets into murky waters. I would I
really want to hear a lot of these people, you know,

(01:27:15):
if they want if there's something we need to know, someone,
someone's got to break the rules, all right. And it
seems that that I don't I don't know. I don't know,
because again you get into other territories. I'm not asking
anyone to go to jail for life for me so
and for for for my benefit of information. But I

(01:27:38):
think that is a crime against humanity to know that
we're not alone, to have murdered people, to be actively
exploiting or connecting with a non human intelligence, and not
telling the public where the ones, at least in the UNI.

(01:28:00):
It states our tax money is paying for this stuff.
It's like classifying black holes. You can't do that. You
can't classify reality. It's it doesn't work that way. That's

(01:28:21):
an overreach, and it's it's it's it's an overreach, and
it's it's I would assume breaking some sort of law
a crime against humanity. Maybe I don't know if that's
a real punishment, if that's actual law, but it's it's
very frustrating to as someone tell you that or imply

(01:28:47):
that something is like, we're headed for something and were
we were gonna want to wish we knew sooner that
that that that hurt me. That hurt me. So I

(01:29:08):
don't know. I I thought, like I said, I thought
the movie is great. I just think I think going forward,
going going forward, I would love to see Dan jump
into some actual cases, whether it be military like like
tiktak and you know, do that that angle like talk

(01:29:28):
about military UFO siding specifically. That's fine, that's so fine.
I would love to see him tackle that. Uh, he probably,
I'm from the Rogan interview he did, there was a
few people he talked to that backed out of the
movie for fear of their reputation. Or fear of what

(01:29:52):
the reprisal of being in the film. So, I mean
he's made connections. Now, so where is this guy gonna land? Right?
Where is this is he gonna it'd be interesting to seek.
It's a good case study, I suppose in itself. It

(01:30:13):
seems when people get the UFO bug, they get the
book and then it overtakes like everything, and that's all
they want is the answers, and they dedicate their life
to their life, life in their livelihood to finding answers.

(01:30:36):
And it's it's it's weird. It's a weird subject like that.
Not many other subjects do that or niches, right aside
from maybe like reli religion, I mean, that's not a niche.
That's a way of life. Is That's what the UFO
world seems to be. It's like a way of life, right,

(01:30:59):
So be interesting. See how how deep the rabbit hole
that Dan Ferry just opened for himself, See how far
he'll go with it he apparently he wants. He's already
working with Jay Stratton on a movie about his life,
based on his life. This is all from the Rogan
interview if you want to check it out. He's working

(01:31:22):
with a remote Viewer on a Remote Viewing film, as
well as the Jay Stratton stuff, and then one other
maybe it was the follow up to Age of Disclosure
I'm thinking of because I know they did discuss like
doing something like that, which I think would be fantastic,
whether it's a director's cut or a direct sequel with
some of the stuff that you couldn't use from the

(01:31:42):
first film. That Like, what I really dislike about movie
making is there is stuff that gets left on the
cutting room floor. Some of that stuff's gold, it's just
you had better material to run with, so sometimes you
never even see that stuff. And that's a game. Most
filmmakers will end up make using it to a degree, right,

(01:32:08):
most like documentary filmmakers, I think we'll end up using
it like if they you know, like Greer made all
the unacknowledged he made the movie, but then he'd like
released all the interviews on the YouTube channel. That's a
good way to do it, actually, take nope, take nope,
that's a good way to do it, all right, guys.

(01:32:32):
Oh yeah, there's a favorite Underwood who began who In
my opinion, they were the first domino that really if
you think about it, if you track it linearly modern disclosure,
the modern disclosure movement as we see it now, or
as we look at it now, I would say the

(01:32:52):
Tiktac case is right up there with Roswell, in which
case I mean, in which I will say, in the
age of disclosure, they do talk about Roswell and how
it was real. So they take that. I mean, they
took us a chance. There a stance there which I
think you know it's it's in the context, right the

(01:33:15):
people that are telling you this, they should be trustworthy.
You should be able to take what they say it
to the bank, unless they're trying to sighop you. Of course,
do we know that that's the case. I don't know.
I don't know. If I knew, trust me, I wouldn't

(01:33:36):
be having such an internal dilemma when when I'm watching
these movies, I would just pick a fucking side and
lean into it. You make more that way. But here
I am still with my questions. So uh yeah, I'd
like to I'd definitely like to see all the uncut interviews.
What do you guys think, any comments? I should get

(01:33:56):
to Gene my man Jeane just throwing the ten dollars
around with no actual text to quote, thank you Gene,
love you him and that will be coming on soon
that we'll probably do it live. Maybe we'll do it live.
I have the camera switcher and stuff. Now we can

(01:34:16):
do it live. It'd be fun. It's a clip of
a longer Oh so that's seven minutes. That was just
a clip because it did feel like it was cutting
at weird places. So was that just a clip? And
there's a long David Crush interview that I'm not that
I didn't see. I'm not going to play any more

(01:34:38):
of it. I think seven minutes is a good amount
to play. What you'd think the reactions it was an hour?
What that was it? We're not alone, scooby doo, all right,

(01:35:02):
thank you guys. Yeah, that is the that was the interview. Uh,
that's fucking crazy. Seven minutes. Yeah, a lot of it
isn't here here. That's what I felt like. I know
a lot of other people are like, dude, there's a
bunch of fucking white guys telling you about disclosure, and

(01:35:23):
I'm like, dude, that is not how I saw that.
But I mean, Andre Carson is not white. That's one person,
Marco Rubio, that I don't think is white. I think
he's like, yeah, it's a lot of old white guys
in ufology. Get used to it. There's a lot more
people coming on board now though, so the old dimers,

(01:35:45):
like the people that have been in it long enough
long I should say, yeah, predominantly white, white males. But
it's not like that anymore. So please don't use that,
please please anyway, let me know in the comments if
you're watching in the future, I would like to hear

(01:36:06):
your thoughts on age of disclosure. I think it might.
I think it has a chance to actually to do
some good. I think it has a chance. I had
a bunch of notes. I didn't even really go through. Wait,
I went through Lakatski in all sap, hate Tip, James
Clapper's perjury to Congress, all the witnesses really one to

(01:36:30):
three minutes of screen time. Well, the rest was kind
of just the New York Times article narrative set forth
at twenty seventeen. You can't have it both ways. You
can't be wrong and celebrate said story. And I went
over all this aside from some mentions and quick clips,

(01:36:54):
I think I got to everything. It does set the stage.
Oh no, no, so it sets the stage for what
comes to next. The only direction I can see would
be physical evidence. That's the only thing that I think
would unanimously silence critics and intrigue. Science is physical evidence,
so logically doubt for me. If the advancement in this

(01:37:21):
topic is to happen, physical evidence needs to come out.
I know that there's other things that constitute as physical
evidence that exist already, but we need something for the
general public, like from straight from the government, them saying

(01:37:42):
this is from Roswell or this is from Magenta like
they need to say it and give it to us.
It can't be like an I beam from Roswell that
we know had inscriptions on it that we're similar to hieroglyphics.
Can't be that, right, be something different and you see
to be from the government to us. Here's some fucking

(01:38:04):
physical evidence. Boom. We're not alone. End of story, right.
Let some labs do some samples on it, show them
all it's real. Move on, get the train moving. Whoever
can do that will be in every history book ever

(01:38:26):
written ever again, unless we were wiped out in some catastrophe,
but it might even be written about in the aliens books.
Now we're part of that history. We know that they're there,
so you immortalize yourself. So someone's in the working in
the black programs and fancies a stroll through YouTube all

(01:38:47):
the time, you know, every once in a while, and
checks out what UFO people are talking about, because you know,
you working on a UFO and you really just want
to get it off your chest. We're waiting, all right,
thank you everyone, become an asset if you want early access.
Uh my episode with You a PPD came out over

(01:39:08):
the weekend with Mary and Robin Dave Rich. Uh they
from Arizona. I will say this episodes fantastic. The video
it was too big, too too big for one upload,
so I fucked. I got to re upload it into
two halves again, well into four halves, and then yeah,

(01:39:28):
it's really weird. So I'll get working on that tomorrow.
But people who are coming on are interesting, interesting people.
John Borrows is one of them. These are the guests
that are coming next. And if you like, if you

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(01:40:11):
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because I've been buying some die cut ones and they'll
also be given those away just a random people throughout
like the next couple of months, as well as some

(01:40:32):
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playing around with some of the designs and yeah, so
I just want to give some of that stuff away.
All right, Guys likes here subscribe. Let me know what
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Elvie's it was real fun and uh, the show would

(01:40:52):
not exist without the viewers. You guys make everything worth it, truly,
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Whether you're Ski or debunker, if you're a part of
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all in this together. Over and out

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
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