SPECIAL EPISODE: "PAVEMENTS" with Matt Maust (Cold War Kids) and Ryan Kattner (Man Man)

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October 24, 2025 • 60 mins

Matt Maust is the bass player for Cold War Kids, a visual artist and a t-shirt shirt collector based in Los Angeles. Ryan Kattner is a singer, composer, actor and founding member of the band Man Man. In this special episode, Joe talks with long time pals and bandmates about the movie Pavements, the experimental docufiction meta biopic about the legendary Stockton California band, Pavement. We begin with Ryan and Matt’s experience with Pavement, their contrasting introductions to the band at different times of their lives and how they view Pavement’s significance in their own rock n roll worlds. Next, Matt and Ryan share their passionate, thoughtful, and elaborate reviews of Pavements, including their expectations going in and their thoughts on rock docs in general. Ryan tells us why Stephen Malkmus made him quit playing guitar, Matt somehow keeps the subject of t-shirts in the conversation, and we get a brilliant “Cold War Kids as Pavement” re-casting suggestion from the original CWK drummer, Matt Aveiro. PAVEMENTS MAN MAN COLD WAR KIDS Interview with a Vampire Joe Plummer solo record Hew Time ⁠ Pavement SPECIAL REQUEST FROM JOE ..."if you like this podcast, please subscribe and tell all your friends. also, if you love, hate or kinda sometimes like Tour Stories/The Check In, please express yourself loudly in the comments . Lovingly, Joe Please visit and support ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Izotope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Distrokid⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for continued exclusive listener discounts. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Izotope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the leader in audio repair, mixing and mastering. Ruinous uses ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Izotope⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and you should too. Trust us. Check out Ozone 12 now! Ep supported by @distrokid. Distro now connects direct to TikTok!!!!! with exclusive access to your tiktok artist account. @thetourstories listeners get 30% off at distrokid.com/vip/tourstories. GET YOUR MUSIC OUT THERE! ITS EASY WITH Distrokid⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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