247 - The Disappearance of Peggy McGuire - Trace Evidence

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
On a cold and windy morning in November of twenty fifteen,
twenty eight year old Eufaula, Oklahoma resident Peggy McGuire loaded
her young son up into her truck and made the
twenty minute drive to drop him off at elementary school.

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She hugged him tight, told him.

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She loved him, and said she'd see him later that
afternoon when he got out of class. After leaving the school,
Peggy placed a call to her father, where they discussed
plans to add a deck to the back of her home.
He was more than happy to oblige, but he'd need
certain measurements, which Peggy promised to record as soon as
she got home. However, sometime later that morning, the single

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mother seemed to mysteriously vanish from the face of the earth.

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All calls to Peggy kicked back.

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With no answer, and it appeared her phone had been
powered off, something she never did. Following desperate attempts from
her mother, father, coworker, and friends, she was officially reported missing.
It was soon determined that Peggy did in fact make
it back to her home north of Eufaula in the
Stidham area, but from there no one could say with

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any certainty what may have happened. Days after her disappearance,
Peggy's truck was found abandoned at a bar not far
from her home. Surveillance footage showed an unidentified figure leaving
the vehicle and disappearing into the early morning darkness. While
law enforcement initially theorized that the twenty eight year old

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may have left of her own volition, it didn't take
long for her family and much of the local community
to set their sights elsewhere on the missing woman's ex
boyfriend and the father of her child with whom she
was sharing a home at the time. Was Peggy the
victim of a random act of violence, or did a

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history of domestic abuse finally lead to a violent end
for the dedicated nurse and mother. This is Trace Evidence,
Episode to forty seven, The Disappearance of Peggy Maguire. Welcome

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to Trace Evidence. I'm your host Stephen Pacheco. In today's episode,
we dive into the mysterious disappearance of twenty eight year
old Peggy Maguire, last scene dropping her son off at
school on the morning of Monday, November sixteenth, twenty fifteen.
Nearly ten years have passed since she was last seen alive,

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and law enforcement is no closer to solving that mystery.
This is episode to forty seven, The Disappearance of Peggy Maguire.
Peggy Ann McGuire was born on Thanksgiving Day, Thursday, November

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twenty seventh, nineteen eighty six, in Macintosh County, Oklahoma, to
parents Betty and Larry McGuire. Peggy was the final of
three children born to the couple, with her being welcomed
home by two older siblings, Richard and Amanda. Peggy would
go on to be raised in Eufaula, a small city

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home to less than three thousand residents that also functions
as the seat of Macintosh County. According to friends and family,
Peggy was an immeasurably kind, caring, and sweet young woman
who loved laughing, spending time with her family, and being
around animals who held a special place in her heart.

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The baby of the family, Peggy's blonde hair and bright
blue eyes captivated family and friends from the get go,
with many describing her as appearing like a little princess
while she possessed a gentle touch and an undeniedable charm.
Everyone who knew the young woman would go on to
note that she was far from a press, instead describing

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her as a little bit of a tomboy. When speaking
to Crime Watch Daily for a segment they produced some
years back. Family members said she was quote a country
girl through and through. She loved the outdoors and had
a deep affinity for fishing, hunting, and camping. She loved
being out in the wilderness, exploring and experiencing the world

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through the beautiful lens of nature. In addition to her
zest for a country life, she was also a talented
and skilled athlete who performed extremely well academically and shared
a love for farming, specifically when it came to taking
care of the animals. Country living. As several have described,
it was very close to her heart, and it would

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ultimately be through that appreciation that she'd come to meet
the boy who would later play a major role in
her future and perhaps the unknown circumstances surrounding her disappearance.
According to the family, Peggy was never very close with
her biological father, Larry. Her parents' divorce was finalized in

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May of nineteen ninety one, when she was just four
years old, and for the vast majority of her life
she'd be raised by her mother and her new husband,
Donnie Davis. Peggy developed a tight bond with Donnie, who
she always referred to as her father, never employing the
word step, which speaks volumes about the closeness and importance

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of their relationship. For his part, Donnie felt the same
way about Peggy, doting on the youngster and treating her
as if she were his own because in almost every
way she was. As a child, Peggy attended Eufaula Elementary School,
where she quickly developed a large and tight circle of friends.

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Through school, she would be introduced to basketball, which quickly
captured her attention because becoming her preferred sport and one
at which she excelled. Betty, while being interviewed on Unfound,
noted that in the third grade her daughter developed a
close friendship with a girl named Samantha, the sister of
Thomas Ryan Macintosh. She would often sleep over this friend's house,

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and over time her relationship with Thomas evolved from a
childish crush into something more significant. The two would go
on to attend Ufalla High School at the same time,
and it was during their sophomore year that they took
the leap from friends on the edge of her relationship
to actively dating. While Peggy was excited for the most part,

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it appears neither her friends nor family were crazy about
this budding young love. According to her mother, the two
clicked because of their friendly history and their share of
mutual interest, specifically that country living lifestyle. It probably didn't
hurt that given the last names of McGuire and McIntosh,

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the two were often seated or announced one right next
to the other. Elizabeth Leaper, Peggy's cousin and dear friend,
was less tactful, telling Crime Watch Daily quote, she was beautiful, beautiful,
she could have had any guy she wanted, and he
was so awkward, rude and done social end quote. It

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appears that issues between the young couple began early on,
with several of Peggy's friends saying that McIntosh was possessive, jealous,
and had a tendency towards violence. Reportedly, if Peggy spent
time with or even talk too long with another guy,
McIntosh would take offense, and this would often kick off

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intense arguments and shouting matches. Elizabeth Leaper relayed details of
the one time in which she bore witness to the
results of that volatile relationship. Leeper claimed that during one
lunch break, things turned physical and Peggy was assaulted. She explained, saying, quote,
they come back from lunch and her nose was bloody.

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She made me take her to the er. Later she
told me that he had gotten mad at her and
he took a pistol and backhanded her with the back
end of the pistol end quote. Although this particular incident
wasn't directly addressed, Betty would describe it as par for
the course, saying that over the years she had witnessed

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intense arguments between the two. She alleged that at different
times McIntosh had smashed in car windows, kicked indoors, and
destroyed Peggy's property. While her relationship with McIntosh was troubled,
to say the least, every other aspect of the teen's
life appeared to be coming together. Another area of interest

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shared by she and McIntosh was sports, specifically basketball. To
put it lightly, Peggy was an extremely talented player, and
a quick search through local archives finds her name mentioned
frequently in high school sports sections in local papers. She
played a strong game and was aided by the physicality

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that her mother says she inherited from her biological father.
Namely growing to stand an impressive five feet ten inches tall.
Although Peggy loved the game and played it as often
as she could, it did wear on her physically. The
physical demand on her knees was difficult, and by the
time she was in her mid twenties, she would have

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to undergo surgery to completely replace her right knee. Academically,
Peggy performed extremely well over the years. She's frequently named
as belonging to the National Honor Society. Her strongest subjects
were English and science, both of which she had a
keen interest in. In addition to academics and sports, Peggy

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was also involved in a lot of different groups in programs,
with yearbooks showing her as a member of the Yearbook Committee,
Homecoming Royalty, and the Future Farmers of America. Graduating from
Ufaulla High School in the spring of two thousand and five,
Peggy was excited about the future and had big plans. However,

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she would unfortunately find herself caught up in a vicious
circle with her increasingly toxic relationship with Thomas McIntosh. According
to Peggy's mother, Following high school, the relationship with McIntosh
continued to get worse with the couple arguing more frequently
and McIntosh's behaviors becoming more erratic and violent. When being

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interviewed on Unfound, hosted by ed Denzil, Betty reported that
multiple people tried to convince Peggy to end things with
McIntosh and to try to get her to stay away
from him. When the couple did split up, they'd stay
apart for weeks to months, but somehow they would always
come back together, and while the relationship would seem all

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right in the beginning, things would always turn back to arguments, threats,
and physical violence. In some instances, people have described their
relationship as being little more than a friends with benefits
situation following high school, whereas others have said it all
depended on what time of year it was. Sometimes it

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was just a casual thing, other times it was more
committed and followed the framework of a regular relationship regardless
of the disturbing and violent incidents. Although the relationship was
obviously an unhealthy one four years things crossed a red
line for Peggy sometime in the early months of two
thousand and six, less than a year after graduating high school.

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While the inciting incident has not been reported on Oklahoma
court records reveal that on Wednesday, April fifth, Peggy filed
a petition seeking a protective order against Macintosh. It appears
that a temporary order of protection was issued that day,
and on Monday, April seventeenth, court records reflect that both

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Peggy and Macintosh appeared before Judge Gene Mowory. On Monday
May one, the temporary order of protection was upgraded to
a permanent protective order. Unfortunately, it seems that, as had
previously been the case, regardless of who tried to intervene
or what actions were taken, Peggy and Macintosh would drift

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back towards one another. Although the two did not enter
back into a committed relationship, they were seeing each other again,
and it was during a calm period between the two
that Peggy became pregnant with her first and only child,
a son she would name Ethan.

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This appears to have somewhat changed.

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The dynamic between Peggy and McIntosh, with them wanting to
try and work things out so that they could raise
their child together. However, there were some issues straight from
the beginning. According to Betty, while Macintosh was well aware
that Peggy was pregnant with his son, she continued living
with her mother, and he with his parents, who were

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not told about the pregnancy for reasons which have never
been explained. Following the birth of their son, the couple
appeared to enter what some have referred to as a
quiet period, at least in regard to getting a law
enforcement involved in things. While they didn't have a great
history together, friends and family reported that Peggy very much

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wanted to provide their son with a solid, reliable, and
safe family life, and she was willing to go out
on a limb in the hope that things could change.
Though we have no solid specifics about this period in
their lives, we do know that Peggy and Macintosh remained
in contact and attempted to work things out. Seven years later,

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in late twenty thirteen, the relationship would take a more
abusive turn when the couple left the state of Oklahoma
look to start over again, nearly eight hundred miles from home.
Betty later stated that at the time, Macintosh, who was
then employed as a pipeline worker, was offered a job
in Indiana, perhaps believing that a change of scenery away

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from all of their past issues might offer them the
opportunity to finally come together. As a family. Peggy informed
her family that she was going to be moving with
McIntosh to Valparaiso, located in northwest Indiana. As they say,
the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and
the cycle of violence in which Peggy found herself trapped

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erupted once again. When they were living in Indiana. Not
only did things turn violent, they became worse than they
had ever been before, and all of this led up
to a brutal attack, which occurred on Tuesday, December seventeenth,
According to Indiana court records. At the time, Peggy and
Macintosh were living together in a three bedroom, two bathroom

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home located in the the four hundred north block of
four to seventy five West, approximately ten miles northwest from
the city center. Court records show that on Wednesday, December eighteenth,
McIntosh was charged with three crimes in relation to a
physical assault on Peggy. The charges were for strangulation, domestic

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battery committed in the presence of a child less than
sixteen years old, and interference with reporting a crime. It
would later be alleged that during an argument, McIntosh should
become violent and closed his hands around Peggy's throat, choking
her while their son was in the room watching. Following this,
Peggy was threatened with additional violence should she report that

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crime to police. On the same day these charges were filed,
McIntosh was served with a no contact order by the
Porter County Sheriff's Department. Desperate to get away and in
need of assistance, Peggy reached out to her family, who
quickly wired her the cash necessary to travel back to Oklahoma,
where she moved in with her mother. Following that assault,

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Peggy appeared to have drawn a line in the sand.
Although she had always gone back to Macintosh regardless of
the circumstances, her loved ones thought that this time would
be different, and for a period of time it was.
Her cousin Elizabeth later explained, quote when she came home
from Indiana, she was broken and beaten, but I think

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something clicked finally that she was not going back for
Ethan's safety. He could have killed her end quote. Over
the course of the next few months, there appeared to
be some improvement, and with McIntosh still back in Indiana,
Peggy had a chance to move forward with her life
without the risk of running into him or being sucked

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back into that cycle. This however, would not last, and
just a few months later, McIntosh returned to Oklahoma, and slowly,
over a couple of months, the two began seeing each
other again. While Peggy had initially pressed charges with Indiana authorities,
she would drop them months later, with court records showing
that the scheduled jury trial was canceled in September of

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twenty fourteen. On Wednesday, October twenty second, the no contact
order expired, and Peggy did not seek to extend it.
Five days later, on Monday, October seventeenth, Judge Julia Kent
officially dismissed all three charges against McIntosh, leaving him only
with court fees totaling nine hundred and ninety five dollars.

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Just one year and one month later, Peggy McGuire would
mysteriously vanish after last being seen by Thomas McIntosh. While
Peggy may not have been making good decisions when it
came to McIntosh, she was taking steps to advance her
career so that she could provide better for her son.

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Always someone with a desire to help others, Peggy turned
to nursing, and in June of twenty fifteen, six months
before her disappearance, she passed her boards and became a
licensed practical nurse. Peggy was employed at Wellington Hill's, a
nursing facility located in the six hundred block of Woodland
Avenue in Eufaula. She quickly accrued a reputation for being

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extremely hard working, friendly and dependable. Everything was going great
for the twenty eight year old single mother, but as
the summer drew near to a close, things would change,
as once again McIntosh would become involved in her life.
Betty explained on Unfound that just a few months after
passing her boards, her daughter was contacted by McIntosh. It

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was August, three months before her disappearance, when McIntosh was
reportedly laid off from work and went to live with
his grandparents, then located in Eufaula. According to the family,
McIntosh reached out to Peggy, claiming that he wanted to
spend time with his son, who at that point was
solely in his mother's care. Not wanting to deny her

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son his father, she agreed, but it didn't take long
for things to become frustrating. Betty stated that Macintosh began
questioning Peggy's travels, behaviors and activities, and his jealousy began
rearing its head. He wanted to know how she spent
her free time. Was she flirting with other guys or
maybe even dating one. Peggy explained that she wasn't going

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to answer those questions, that she was allowing Macintosh to
see his son and that was where their connection ended. However,
when he found her to be resistant to his questions,
he turned his attention to their son, asking him what
he knew about his mother's activities and whether or not
there were any other men hanging around. During this period

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of time, Peggy's work schedule became more demanding and she
started taking on double shifts. Macintosh was looking after Ethan
more and more. He began keeping their son with him
throughout Peggy's long shifts. School was back in session and
so after finishing for the day, Ethan would go to
be with his father, and then when Peggy's shift ended,

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generally around eleven PM, she'd go by and pick him up.
It was working for a while, but the demand and
hours were weighing on the twenty eight year old. On
top of that, she didn't like the idea of picking
up her son so late when he needed to be
in bed, so he could be prepared for school the
next day. A month later, in September, Peggy and Macintosh

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began staying together at a home she had procured northwest
of the city in the town of Stidham. While the
home was far from a mansion, being a modular double wide,
it was seated on nearly eighty acres of land. However,
she hadn't gotten home entirely on her own. Thomas McIntosh

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was listed as a co signer on the mortgage. This
would come as a surprise to Peggy's parents, who were
somewhat frustrated when they learned this. They would have happily
signed on to help her get her own home, especially
if it would have kept her away from Macintosh, But
as had been the cycle for nearly half her life,
at that point in time, Peggy couldn't seem to get

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away from her ex. Reportedly, this decision was made mostly
to try and keep things as uncomplicated as possible. Peggy
made it clear to friends and family, as well as Macintosh,
that she wasn't interested in rekindling any romance, nor did
she have any desire to fall back into the repeated
pattern of abuse. This was purely a way of keeping

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things together for their son, to limit the demand on
her schedule and to allow Macintosh more access to the child.
They would live in the home, but the space was
divided between his section and hers, and she did not
allow any overflow. According to Betty, Macintosh kept trying to
wear Peggy down, trying to convince her to get back together,

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but she was more resistant than she'd ever been before,
choosing to sleep in a guest room in order to
keep them even more divided within the home. The location
of the home allowed Peggy to have more animals who
had always been near and dear to her heart. She
ended up with dogs, chickens, goats, rabbits, and approximately one

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hundred and fifty head of cattle. In addition to pulling
double shifts at work, she pushed herself hard to look
after all of the animals, and oftentimes would bring her
son along as she fed and checked in on them.
Betty explained that her daughter didn't stop moving from the
time she woke up in the morning until she crashed
in her bed at night. She worked at the nursing home,

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ran the farm, was a mother, and even took time
out of her schedule to volunteer as a youth basketball coach.
Despite all of the arrangements, Peggy's mother was still concerned
about her sharing a home with Macintosh. She expressed her
feelings to her daughter, telling her she was worried that
things might turn violent again and she didn't want to

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see her hurt or perhaps worse. According to Betty, Peggy
told her that she wasn't worried about it, alleging that
she had enough information on Macintosh that if he ever
tried to go at her again, she would take him
for everything he had, and she wouldn't be afraid to
push it to the limit. When it came to the

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possibility of romantic feelings returning, Peggy was very quick to
dismiss it. Reportedly, she explained that not only was that unlikely,
after all the years of abuse and unhappiness, she'd got
into a place where she couldn't stand to see him,
hear him, or even be in the same room as him.
In fact, she'd already been casually dating off and on

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for a while prior to Macintosh moving into the home
with her, and she didn't have any intentions of cutting
that off. According to her cousin Elizabeth, Peggy was planning
to get away from McIntosh for good. She hadn't quite
yet figured out all of the logistics, but she wanted
to get her things together and get away from the
house they shared. This is somewhat of a debated point, however,

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as while Elizabeth told this to Crime Watch Daily, according
to Betty, she wasn't aware of a plan to move out,
and the day she vanished, Peggy was awaiting the delivery
of more goats for her farm, something it seems unlikely
she'd have scheduled if indeed she were leaving for good,
but no one appears to know that for certain. This

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brings us to November of twenty fifteen, the month Peggy
maguire was last seen alive. According to Betty in her
unfound interview, tensions between her daughter and Macintosh were growing,
and an incident early in the month really kicked things
up a notch. Allegedly, McIntosh's grandfather had some kind of

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a financial issue and needed cash quickly, and so mac
andsh supposedly went down to the bank where Peggy had
her account, spoke to a teller there that he had
a personal relationship with, and managed to get granted access
to withdraw cash from that account, something the twenty eight
year old never agreed to. It's been claimed that McIntosh

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had a lot of influence, or at least his family did.
The last name Macintosh carries a lot of weight in
that area. Ufhalla is in Macintosh County, named after the
same family. There's been a lot of things said on
both sides of the equation here, but for Peggy's friends
and family, they firmly believe that Thomas McIntosh invoked the

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family name on more than one occasion to get out
of trouble or to get what he wanted. According to Betty,
her daughter was furious when she learned that McIntosh had
been allowed to take money out of her bank account,
and in response, she went down to the branch to
demand answers. What exactly happened at the bank and how

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things were handled has never been revealed, but it's worth
noting that Peggy would mysteriously vanish just a few days later.
The young nurse was scheduled to work the weekend of
Saturday the fourteenth and Sunday the fifteenth, after which she
was planning to get together with a man she'd recently
begun seeing. Her new love interest lived in Texas. And

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Peggy was excited to get together with him, but she
would sadly vanish before she could even make the trip.
The last time Elizabeth Leaper saw her cousin was the
evening of Sunday, the fifteenth. Elizabeth also worked at the
nursing facility, so she got to see Peggy a lot
that night. Everything seemed to be in order and there

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didn't appear to be anything wrong. Elizabeth later told Nancy
Grace that she had spoken to Peggy at approximately eight
pm and everything appeared to be completely normal. She had
no reason to be concerned about her cousin, although she
did express that Peggy may have been nearing placing her
moving out plan into action. She allegedly planned to pack

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up and move in with her mother for a period
of time, but she would never get far enough to
pack that suitcase. Monday, November sixteenth began as a cold
and rainy morning in eastern Oklahoma. Winds were blowing hard,
gusting up to twenty miles per hour, while the gray
sky overhead grew only darker. As was normal for Peggy

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in the morning, her primary focus was to get Ethan
ready for school and then to drop them off, Not
particularly fond of the schools in the area, Peggy sent
her son to a school in Canadian located fifteen miles
south of Eufaula in Pittsburgh County. Given the distance, the
drive average between twenty five to thirty minutes depending on traffic.

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Based upon the data provided by law enforcement, it's believed
that Peggy loaded up Ethan and then clined into her
twenty twelve Toyota Tundra pickup truck, leaving her Stidham home
around seven to twenty five am.

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Whether or not.

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Anyone else was in the truck with her and Ethan
that morning has been the subject of great debate, and
for reasons passing understanding, law enforcement has never taken the
initiative to make it clear one way or the other.
We know that Peggy made it to the school that day.
Members of the administration would later inform investigators that she

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dropped off Ethan as always at eight am. Now, early
reports stated that when Peggy drove away from the school
that morning, it was noted that there was another person
in the truck with her, presumed to have been Thomas McIntosh. However,
as I mentioned, this has never been clarified, and if

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the school had security cameras outside. The footage of her
dropping off her son that morning has never been released.
All we can say with any certainty is that Peggy
made it to the school, dropped off her son, and
was alive and well when she was last seen driving away.
The next time there's contact with Peggy is approximately fifteen

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minutes later at eight fifteen am, when she called and
spoke with her father, Donnie Davis, while making the thirty
minute drive home to Stidham. Peggy was always doing projects
around her house, but next she had a plan for
which she'd need help. She wanted to add a deck
along with a ramp to make it easier to get
into the house. She often experienced soreness following her knee replacement,

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and steps were a little uncomfortable for her to maneuver.
In addition to that, she had an elderly dog who
had injured legs and the stairs were hard on him,
so she wanted to make it easier for everyone all around.
Donnie was planning to put the porch and ramp together,
but in order to do so, he'd need some specific measurements.

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Peggy told Donnie that when she got home she'd measure
it all out and then call him back with the details,
but that call never came. The next person to have
communication with Peggy that morning was her cousin Elizabeth, who
later stated that she spoke to the missing woman via
text message. According to Elizabeth, she had a patient specific

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question regarding one of the individuals at the nursing facility,
so she texted to ask. Peggy replied to that text,
and it's believed that it was in fact Peggy sending
the message because she was able to answer the question correctly.
The last person confirmed to have spoken to Peggy that
morning was the Texas man that she'd been seeing. According

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to him, they spoke on the phone sometime not long
after eight thirty. He went on to state that Peggy
was back at her house when they spoke, and that
she had specifically told him she was making dear jerky
for him. There was nothing to indicate any problems at
the time, and the Texas man later told authorities that

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he received another call and told Peggy he'd call her
back when he was done. Approximately forty minutes later, he
did call back, but the phone went straight to voicemail.

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This would suggest the phone was either damaged or powered off.

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The latter of which is something friends and family know
Peggy would never do while her son was in school.
She'd be too worried about a possible emergency call being missed.
Elizabeth noted how odd this was, saying, quote for her
phone to be off for days, or even just a day,
is just not like her end quote. After nine am

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that morning, there is no one who ever reported speaking
with or seeing Peggy alive. She had previously made plans
with her mother to attend a basketball game that night
where her niece was playing. Although Peggy had told her
mother she'd be late, she never showed up, nor did
she call or text to explain her absence. Betty tried

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to get in touch with her daughter that night, but
multiple texts went unanswered and phone calls went straight to voicemail.
Although it was very out of character for Peggy to
not show up and to be out of contact, Betty
was worried, but she didn't immediately jump to the conclusion
that something horrible had happened. While her concerns were growing,

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Peggy's cousin, Elizabeth, wasn't too worried, although she was unable
to get the twenty eight year old on the phone,
she was privy to information that Betty may not have been.
According to Elizabeth, Peggy had told her that she was
planning to spend time with her new boyfriend on Monday,
and she'd already said in advance that she would not
be coming into work on Tuesday so they could spend

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more time together. On this same day, Betty decided to
call McIntosh to ask if he knew her daughter's whereabouts,
but he denied any knowledge. According to Betty, McIntosh told
her that he hadn't seen Peggy since the week end
and he'd just assumed that she was working. This didn't
make a lot of sense to Betty, since even if

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she were working extra hours, she still would need to
go home and she would be dropping off and picking
up Ethan from school. This answer certainly set off alarms
for the worried mother, who would later tell NBC News quote,
I couldn't get her on Monday or Tuesday, and neither
could anyone else end quote. The morning of Wednesday the

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eighteenth marked forty eight hours since anyone was able to
reach Peggy, and by this point Betty wasn't the only
one worried. Elizabeth was surprised when Peggy didn't show up
for work that day. She was always on time and
cared deeply about her job, so this was the first
major red flag for the missing woman's cousin. Not long

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into the day, Betty rang the nursing home and spoke
to several of Peggy's coworkers, all of whom acknowledged that
they had not seen or heard from the single mother
since the weekend. Frustrated, Betty and Donnie got into their
car and made the trip over to the house in
Stidham to see if they could track down Peggy. Upon arriving,

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they noted that her truck was nowhere to be seen,
and neither was Macintosh's. Inside, they found the house in
good condition. Peggy's stuff was still there, neat and organized,
and they could find nothing to indicate any signs of
a struggle. Everything was oddly normal, but this did little
to alleviate Betty's worries. Out of options and scared, Betty

(34:35):
decided to contact the Macintosh County Sheriff's office to report
her daughter missing. Right from the get go, no one
was happy without law enforcement handled things. For the most part,
they didn't express much concern and were of the belief
that Peggy was an adult and she'd likely gone somewhere
on her own, telling the family she'd probably be back

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on her own within a few days. In addition, law
enforcement noted that they would put out a bowlo on
Peggy and her truck, but that without a starting point
for a search, there wasn't a whole lot they could do.
Should new information be obtained giving them an area to
focus on, they would, but until then it was too

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wide open for organized searches. Hearing this, the family didn't
want to sit around waiting, so they began working the
investigation themselves. Relatives and friends, co workers, and neighbors were contacted,
and many of them made the trip to Eufaula, some
from as far away as California. They produced flyers which

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were quickly put up all over town on power poles,
in store windows, and even handed out to people passing by.
They began organizing volunteer search parties and created a private
Facebook group Bring Peggy Home to help coordinate. Although several
days had passed since Peggy had last been seen, everyone

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was focused on finding her, no matter what extreme they
had to go to. As it would turn out, the
very next day, Thursday, November nineteenth would yield the first
major clue in the twenty eight year old's disappearance. Peggy's brother, Richard,
was driving around the area searching for any sign of
his sister when he spotted her truck in a strange

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and unlikely location. Tnj's Ice House was a small country
style bar that seated approximately twenty people, located just shy
of ten miles from Peggy's house off Highway nine along
County Road forty one thirty. It was an establishment mostly
frequented by locals. It was kind of a dive, a

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hole in the wall. The building itself appeared to have
been a haphazard blend of a trailer merged with a
metal storage container. There in the back of the parking lot,
in a space furthest from the building, Richard saw his
sister's truck. The location of the truck stood out not
just because Peggy was missing, but because this was far

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from the kind of place she would normally go. Richard
later commented, quote, she has never been in that place.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Not to mention Peggy wasn't a drinker, so why she'd
have been at the bar was a question. No one
was able to answer outside of a poor quality surveillance
camera mounted on the front of the business. Law enforcement
was notified of the discovery and deputies from the Sheriff's
Department were dispatched to the location, where they found Peggy's
family already there waiting for them. The owner of the

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bar explained to authority is that the truck had been
parked there since the early morning of Tuesday the seventeenth,
and they had no idea who'd left it there. In fact,
since several days had passed without the vehicle's owners showing
up or calling, they were preparing to have the truck towed.
Although there was surveillance footage, it was grainy and difficult

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to make out. The footage showed Peggy's truck driving up
Country Road forty one thirty heading north, suggesting it had
come from Highway nine to the south at approximately five
to twenty am. There was a heavy rainstorm that morning,
obscuring the video further, but law enforcement noted that the
vehicle made a left turning into the bar's parking lot,

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at which time it creeps slowly into the space where
it was later found. The video showed an unidentified person
exiting from the driver's side, at which time the truck's
lights flashed, as though the keyfob was used to lock
or unlock the doors. The unidentified individual then pulled up
the hood on his hoodie, put his hands in his pockets,

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and began walking back towards County Road he had just
come from. Although it's extremely difficult to make out much
in the footage, several family members immediately indicated that they
believed the driver to be Thomas McIntosh. Law enforcement, however,
even nearly a decade later, have never been able to
positively identify the driver. Following discovery of the truck, McIntosh

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was informed since much like the house, he was also
the co signer, and he too came down to the
bar to see what was going on. While there, he
was allegedly taken into one of the deputy's vehicles, at
which point he was questioned. Although specific details about the
line of questioning have never been revealed, it has been
stated that McIntosh denied any involvement in Peggy's disappearance and

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claimed that he hadn't seen her since the weekend, the
same thing he had told Betty. McIntosh did, however, posit
a theory with investigators Reportedly, he stated his belief that
Peggy had chosen to run off with a new guy
she'd been seeing. This was something no one believed, since
if there was one thing anyone who knew Peggy knew

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for sure, it was that she would never abandon her son.
He was the center of her entire world. Interestingly, it's
been reported that in the aftermath of the truck's discovery,
Ethan was asked about his mother and what he may
or may not have known. Allegedly, the child stated that
his father told him that his mother had run off

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with another guy before the truck was found at the bar.
Despite this, law enforcement didn't seem to take the child's
account too seriously, noting that his statement was indeed interesting,
but not reliable enough to move on. Essentially, should things
move forward to a trial, it wasn't believed Ethan would
be able to testify reliably enough. Without some corroboration, there

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was little they could do Hoping for answers. The Sheriff's
department impounded the truck that evening and took it in
for a thorough examination in search of any additional evidence. However,
the family had been quickly losing confidence in local law enforcement,
given their initial reaction to the missing persons report and

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their failure to launch even a single To that point
in time following the truck's discovery, there were still no
official searches launched, and so Betty made it her goal
to get the OSBI, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation
involved on Unfound, she explained that she begged county authorities

(41:18):
to call in state investigators and went so far as
to call local politicians, leaving voicemails that went unanswered. What
ultimately brought the OSBI to Eufaula was not the sheriff's
department nor any real actions from law enforcement. Instead, when
a news reporter came to town to cover the story

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and learned how poor the investigation had been handled, she
reached out to someone she knew with the OSBI, and
they agreed to get involved, but they wouldn't show up
until nearly a month after the disappearance. Pamela Bradford, a
local woman who lived in close proximity to TJ's ice house,

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saw the story on the low local news and quickly
picked up the phone to contact authorities. According to Bradford,
she was driving along County Road forty one thirty the
morning the truck was left at the bar and she
saw something odd. Despite the fact that it was raining
and storming pretty good. She spotted an unidentified man walking

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along the side of the road heading away from the bar.
Assuming it was someone experiencing car trouble, Bradford began to
slow her vehicle down to offer the man a ride,
at which point he quickly ducked off the side of
the road, hiding in a thicket of weeds and bushes.
Bradford found the behavior strange, but at the time she

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had no reason to think much more about it and
continued on her way. Despite the discovery of the truck
and examination of the surveillance footage, local law enforcements still
wasn't doing much in terms of investigating. In response, members
of Peggy's family began organizing more searches and actions. They
gathered at the Stidham Community Center, utilizing it as a

(43:03):
base camp for future plans and operations. Asked about their plans,
Kelly Cunell, a cousin of Peggy's, told ABC News quote,
we're searching areas we think people would hide her, or
people would want to get rid of her, or something
we don't have any leads.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
We don't know. We're just searching areas around our house.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
We desperately, desperately need some information and we would do
anything to get that without hope.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
What else do we have to stand on.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I mean, we have to hope and pray that we
can bring her home alive. And that's why time is
of the essence end quote. The family search expanded out
beyond the bounds of the property Peggy owned, moving into
property owned by neighbors. The neighbors were asked and eagerly
gave approval for searches to be conducted, and in most

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cases chipped in and helped out. Knowing their property better
than more expansive searches were handled through the use of
four wheelers, which in the course of the first week,
logged hundreds of miles in their search for any clues
or signs of the missing mother. Dorothy Hall, Peggy's aunt, explained, quote,
They've been out on everybody's property, searching in their ponds,

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along their fence lines, looking for anything wherever they think
she could be. They've talked to residents, They've put up posters,
handed out flyers. Everything has been done with family organization
end quote. With the family carrying the vast majority of
the load as pertains to the searches, and with from

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their perspective, the lack of action from the sheriff's department,
they began putting together plans to get outside investigators into
the area. Just a few days before Thanksgiving, marking a
week since Peggy's disappearance, the family set up and publicized
a go fund Me page where they included their interest
in hiring professional assistance. Speaking to the McAllister News Capital

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and Democrat, Betty expressed the pain and frustration of a
mother desperate to bring her daughter home, saying quote, today,
it's been a week since my baby girl has been missing.
I'd get anything to see her beautiful face again and
to hear her say I love you, Mama. I won't
stop looking for you. I miss you with all my heart.

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I hope you're safe and warm. End quote. In regard
to the lack of sincere investigation, McIntosh County Sheriff Kevin
Ledbetter was asked about the status of the case at
the time, he wasn't able to give much information, though
he did state that both Peggy's truck and the surveillance
footage was being handed over to the OSBI, who planned

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to conduct a thorough search of the vehicle and would
work to try and clean up and enhance the video
of the unknown man. Ledbetter noted that warrants were already
being sought, not only linked to the vavehicle, but also
for Peggy's cell phone data, which they hoped might help
narrow down her last location. It was announced that several

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different search groups, many in Oklahoma and some from neighboring Arkansas,
openly volunteered their services to come and conduct more of
theow searches. However, there was a problem. The Sheriff's department
had not yet requested their help because, as Sheriff led
Better noted, they didn't have a good enough idea of
where she may have disappeared from or where she might be,

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so there was no specific location at which to stage
such a comprehensive search. Sheriff led Better told local reporters
that once they had more information on potential locations, then
he might be inclined to request assistance from the volunteer groups.
Peggy's twenty ninth birthday came and passed on Friday, the

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twenty seventh. It was a grim reminder for the family
of what they were fighting for and the desperation that
felt to locate the missing mother. Monday November thirtieth, mark
two weeks since the mother of one had last been seen,
and outside of the discovery of her truck, almost nothing
had been uncovered. The Stidham Community Center, their home base,

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was going to be closing, and so the family began
trying to find a new location from which to operate
in hopes of drawing more attention to the search. Coworkers
from Wellington Hill sold baked goods over the weekend, earning
two thousand dollars to continue funding searches. According to them,
everyone loved Peggy and they were glad to help with

(47:37):
their coworker Cindy Passion, stating quote, we are all friends,
we all hang out together. Peggy was kind of special.
The residents loved her. They even have her flyers hanging
on their doors.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
The owner of the nursing facility, who noted how hard
working and dedicated Peggy was, contributed to that effort, donating
a reward of fifteen thousand dollars for information leading to
Peggy's location. Frustrated with the developing narrative of law enforcement
in action. Sheriff Ledbetter spoke with NBC News at which

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time he stated they were in fact investigating the case,
saying they had issued warrants for Peggy's cell phone data
on the nineteenth, three days after she was last seen.
He also added that they were in the process of
filing warrants for her financial records and social media accounts.
Asked about the lack of searches, Ledbetter stated they needed

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a better starting point because otherwise they'd be randomly searching
anywhere within the three hundred and fifty square miles that
make up Macintosh County. Sheriff Ledbetter continued, saying, quote, we've
been working it from day one. The problem is we
don't have a point of to really go off of.
Once we do, we will launch whatever resources are necessary

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to investigate it further. We are following up with any
and all leads we get. End quote. A little over
a week later, on Tuesday, December eighth, the OSBI descended
upon Macintosh County and was joined by multiple law enforcement
agencies to conduct the first major organized official search since

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Peggy disappeared twenty two days earlier. The search was center
primarily on Peggy's home and the approximate eighty acres surrounding it. However,
warrants were sought and obtained for neighboring properties as well. Reportedly,
the search was focused primarily in that area because law

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enforcement finally obtained Peggy's cell phone data and it showed
that the last time her phone was active was on
the morning of her disappearance, and tower signals showed that
the phone was in or nearby to her home just
prior to the signal shutting off. The OSBI, along with
the Macintosh County Sheriff's Department, the Muskogee Creek Nation, Light

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Horse Police, local firefighters, and volunteers gathered early Tuesday morning
at the Stidham Baptist Church to organize plans and hand
out directions and orders in what they described as a
massive but focused hunt.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
For clues and evidence.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
A command center was set up in the church parking lot,
which included a mobile analysis trailer and a crime scene
investigation vehicle. Warrants were to be served and searches would
involve drones, cadaver dogs, helicopters, and four wheelers. There were
foot searches and beyond that, boats equipped with sonar was

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sent into nearby bodies of water and ponds in the area.
Among the searchers was also an anthropologist who worked out
of the Medical Examiner's office. Jenny Verdon, a spokesperson for
the OSBI, stated that the search would focus on Peggy's
last known location. When asked about possible suspects or persons

(51:03):
of interest, Verdin declined to comment. The searches were conducted
over the course of the eighth and ninth though what
evidence or information they yielded was not immediately revealed. Two
days after completion, on Friday, December eleventh, a candlelight vigil
was held. More than one hundred people, including family, friends,
and concerned local citizens, attended and were led in prayer

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by Minister Dusty mckeefer. Two people conspicuous by their absence
were Thomas Macintosh and Peggy's son Ethan. Asked about her grandson,
Betty noted that he was now living with his father
in the home that he'd previously shared with Peggy. It
was also announced on that day that the reward for

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information in the case had been increased to twenty thousand dollars.
A few weeks later, in mid January, details of what
was recovered during the searches and what areas specifically were
targeted was released. The home Peggy shared with Macintosh was
the primary search location, and law enforcement reported the recovery

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of several curious items. In the home, They found and
took samples of six separate blood like stains found on
couch cushions and an unspecified area of the back porch.
In addition to these swabs, they also recovered a three
point fifty seven Ruger revolver. In addition to the home,

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a warrant was served on Thomas McIntosh's truck, from which
law enforcement reported retrieving a pair of yellow leather gloves
with what appeared to be blood stains on them from
beneath one of the vehicle's seats. Another vehicle searched was
a Caboda brand tractor, from which they took samples of
blood like material located in the front loading bucket. The

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OSBI also served warrants on the cell phones, computers, and
bank statements of both Peggy and Macintosh. All told, seven
different properties were searched, and while the evidence didn't quite
paint a clear portrait, Sheriff Ledbetter was hopeful, saying quote
some of what we found may not make sense now,

(53:15):
but it's just another piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
It was during this time that details of the OSBI
search of Peggy's truck were also revealed for the first time.
McIntosh County Deputy Sheriff Dwayne Hall stated that they did
in fact swab for DNA within the vehicle and gave
a full inventory of everything which had been found, which
included one iPhone six box, two cell phone cases, four

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bottles of medication with her name on them, one ziplock
bag containing three syringes of medication, five spent thirty eight
caliber shells, four three point fifty seven magnum hollow point bullets,
one key ring with one key on it, and one
flash drive. While the family was excited and hopeful to

(54:04):
see steps being taken, at least in regard to Peggy's truck,
Betty wasn't quite sure just how thoroughly things were being handled.
When speaking on Unfound, she stated that law enforcement contacted
her and asked her to come down and pick up
her daughter's personal items from the vehicle since it had
been in police custody. No one was making payments during

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that time, and the vehicle was set to be repossessed.
According to Betty, when she arrived, she didn't think it
looked like much of a search had been done inside
the truck at all. There was mud still dried on
the floor mats and no trace of fingerprint dust inside.
When asked about the mud, the OSBI told Betty they
had taken photos of it, but they didn't take a

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sample for analysis because most of the dirt in that
area is all the same, so it wouldn't help them
narrow anything down. That made sense to a degree, but
when she asked why it didn't look like they had
fingerprinted the inside, she was told that because Macintosh was
the co signer and lived with Peggy, there wasn't much

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of a point checking because they were guaranteed to find
his prints, but that would prove nothing. Betty understood that,
but couldn't help wondering what if someone else was involved
or had been responsible entirely on their own, would it
have made sense to check for any prince Regardless, it
made no sense, and Betty who couldn't be sure if

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it was just poor investigative work or something else. But
the truck wasn't the only searched area that the worried
mother found strange. Betty had previously stated that on the
Wednesday she reported her daughter missing, that she'd stopped by
her home to see if she was there or if
she could find any clues. Inside the home, she saw

(55:54):
no signs of a struggle and noted that her daughter's
clothes and personal items were all still there. When cadaver
dogs were brought into search, she once again returned to
the home to get some clothes so the dogs could
pick up Peggy's scent. But on this visit, she was
shocked to discover that all of her daughter's clothing and
bedding had been washed. Her shoes were missing, along with

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her perfume, soaps, shampoo, and toothbrush. All of her no
overnight items were gone. She confronted Macintosh about this, who
replied that his mother had cleaned everything to help out,
and no further explanation was given. Betty has no idea
what became of her daughter's possessions, including her phone, jewelry, purse, wallet,

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and checkbook. None of those items have ever been found.
While these searches were some of the most massive investigative
steps taken since Peggy was reported missing, they did not
result in the major advancement of the case. The items recovered,
while alluring, didn't seemed to aid investigators to further their probe.

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Sheriff Ledbetter went on to state that though multiple attempts
had been made, the security footage they possessed could not
be enhanced enough to help identify the unknown man seen
leaving Peggy's truck at the bar the morning after she
was last seen alive. At that point, Ledbetter noted the
OSBI was taking over the day to day operations of

(57:24):
the investigation. Asked about the status of the case in
early March, five months after the disappearance, OSBI spokesperson Jessica
Brown said there were no new updates to share. There
would be few words from officials for months. Wednesday, November sixteenth,
twenty sixteen, marked one full year since Peggy had last

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been seen alive. According to the OSBI, to that point,
they had made more than one hundred and forty investigative
reports on the case and were still actively investigating, performing
a search of a culvert area as recently as two
days earlier. Unfortunately, they still hadn't found enough to move
the case forward, nor could they name a suspect or

(58:08):
a person of interest for the family. The passage of
a year was a grim anniversary that only worked to
highlight the likelihood that they may never see Peggy again,
but they were undeterred in their drive to find her.
Speaking to the media, Betty explained saying, quote, my daughter
was in our life every day. I'm not going to

(58:30):
stop talking about her because I'm her voice. I try
to live my life, work, I still try to function.
Her birthday is coming up and that makes it hard. Hopefully,
one of these days she'll get justice. There's no way
she would just leave end quote. A Bring Peggy Home

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service was held earlier in the month that the first
Free Will Baptist Church. There was a potluck dinner and
they released five hundred balloons, many with messages for or
about Peggy. Friends and family shared memories and stories while
everyone sat down to a large dinner together, a direct
attempt to keep her name and memory alive. It was

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announced at the time that a reward for information had
been dramatically increased, totaling fifty thousand dollars. Several months later,
in May of twenty seventeen, Billy Taylor, the owner of
a chain of medical labs in Arkansas, who had met
and spent time with Peggy previously, announced that he was

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putting up an additional one hundred thousand dollars reward for information.
Taylor said he would even pay the reward out to
the person responsible so long as the information led to
Peggy's whereabouts. This combined raised the total reward for information
up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. As if

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this wasn't enough grief and pain for the family to
exc experience, Betty found herself embroiled in several different legal
cases revolving around her daughter's property and most importantly, her grandson.
McIntosh had stopped allowing Betty to see her spend time
with Ethan, so she filed in court to be granted visitation.

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Being that Macintosh's native, his lawyers tried to get the
case transferred to the Creek Nation, but a judge overruled this,
noting that if the case was for custody, then it
would have to go to the nation, but being that
this was about visitation, his court held jurisdiction. Seemingly in
direct response to the filing for visitation, McIntosh filed a

(01:00:41):
civil suit claiming that four months before Peggy's disappearance in
July of twenty fifteen, Betty had sold four of his
cattle in excess of four three hundred and seventy two
dollars at the Cross Livestock auction. He also alleged that
Betty had stolen other cattle from him in excess of
ten thousand dollars. In regard to visitation, Macintosh fought against it,

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stating that Betty had made untrue statements about him and
his involvement in the disappearance, citing this as the reason
he did not want his son around her. As part
of her petition, Betty requested that law enforcement agencies in
the area be subpoenaed to determine whether or not Macintosh
was in fact.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Fit to be apparent to the boy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
With things getting heated on both sides, a judge removed
Ethan from his father and had him placed in the
custody of a guardian at Letam. Later, McIntosh filed paternity
documents seeking full custody of his son, noting that he
was his biological father, and claiming in those documents that
Peggy had willfully abandoned her son. Betty denied that her

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daughter would have ever abandoned her son, stating in her
response filing that Ethan could suffer physical and emotional abuse
at the hands of his father without the assignment of
court ordered visitation rights. In the end, McIntosh would win,
with Betty telling unfound that he is Ethan's biological father

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and grandparents' rights do not compare to those, at least
not under Oklahoma state law. She has not seen her
grandson since shortly after her daughter's disappearance. May of twenty eighteen,
mark two and a half years since Peggy disappeared. While
local stories about the case had been slowly drying up,

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Betty was contacted by producers for Crime Watch Daily, who
decided to cover the case. They came to Ufaula early
in the month to film locations and conduct interviews with
the family as well as law enforcement. Although Thomas McIntosh
would not sit for an on camera interview, his lawyer,
Keith McCarter would. Jenny Verdon would represent the OSBI, while

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Betty and Elizabeth Leaper spoke for the family. Betty was
excited about the promise of more extensive coverage, telling local
papers quote, the case is getting cold. People are forgetting
We need to keep her memory alive. Maybe one day
my daughter will get justice end quote. Several new details

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were released in this coverage. First, it was stated that
both Peggy and Macintosh's phones pinged within close proximity to
each other near to the home they shared on the
morning of the disappearance. There was also a report from
a neighbor who told authorities that he saw McIntosh driving
a tractor onto he and Peggy's property shortly after she

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is believed to have disappeared. The neighbor, a bus driver
who had come home for lunch as he always did,
stated that when the tractor drove off of the property,
it was moving quickly and had its bucket lifted all
the way up, making it impossible to see what, if anything,
might be in the bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
The neighbor speculated that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Perhaps Peggy's body was in that bucket, though the OSBI
was unable to confirm this, as they can't even confirm
if the witness saw this happening the day of the disappearance, or,
as has been argued by Kevin McCarter, the day before.
McIntosh's lawyer argued that the bus driver's sighting occurred on Sunday,

(01:04:21):
telling Crime Watch Daily Quote that would be the day
before he was moving some hay to prepare for the
rains to come. That was on Sunday. So if the
neighbor says that was on Monday or Tuesday, that's just incorrect.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Mcarter, to his credit, answered a lot of questions asked
about the disappearance and his client's involvement or lack thereof.
When asked about a history of violence and abuse from
Macintosh towards Peggy, Macarter argued that much of that was
overblown or in some cases fabricated. He explained, quote, have

(01:04:58):
you seen any medical record about it? There aren't any.
These are kind of small town legends that develop, and
a lot of them develop after someone disappears. It's a
nice narrative. Unfortunately the fact just don't corroborate. There was
an incident where he was arrested on some allegation of
domestic violence. The case was eventually dropped. I know that

(01:05:22):
there are people down there who are hell bent for
Thomas to be charged. There's not enough evidence to prove
a murder case beyond a reasonable doubt, and they would
be charging an innocent man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
End quote.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
M Carter went on to note that even with enhancement
attempts from the OSBI, no one could positively identify the
individual scene in the surveillance footage, with him commenting that,
whether you like it or not, the video is so
unclear you can't prove it was Thomas McIntosh, and in fact,
you can't even say with complete certainty that it's not

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Peggy herself. Obviously, the family strongly disagrees, with Peggy's father
stating that in his opinion, based on how the unidentified
person walked, he has no doubt it's Thomas McIntosh. Asked
whether or not she believes McIntosh was involved, Betty replied emphatically,
quote yes, because I know how he was. I've heard

(01:06:22):
his threats. He's broke her nose. He's done so much
to her she was dating. He didn't want another man
to be around his son. End quote. Jenny Verdin of
the OSBI was also interviewed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
When asked about a suspector or a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Person of interest, she was more neutral in her response,
giving no specific details. She said, quote, everyone's a person
of interest in this case until Peggy maguire is found
end quote. Though not wanting to speak too negatively about
the early investigation, Verdon did note that it would have
been more helpful if they had been called in to

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assist earlier, since the timing was so important. She went
on to say that samples taken from the home and tractor,
which were described as blood like, were too degraded by
the time they were collected and therefore could not be
properly identified. Asked about the story which claimed that Ethan
stated his father had told him Peggy ran off with

(01:07:21):
another man before her truck was found at the bar,
Verden stated they were not able to confirm that account.
Keith McCarter was adamant that this was a contrived account, saying,
quote Ethan never disclosed a comment like that to anybody
from the Department of Human Services, never disclosed a comment

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like that to his attorney in the case, never disclosed
a comment like that to the Guardian ad litem in
the case end quote. The last major news in this
case came about in the early part of twenty twenty four,
just last year, when an anonymous tipster reached out to
a local reporter. According to the tipster, he knew where

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Peggy's remains may have been hidden. The reporter, Shay Rozzi,
immediately reached out to Steve Money, a defense attorney, who
then reached out to Bert Pool, an investigator with the
Muskogee County District Attorney's office. The original tip reported in
February stated that Peggy's body was wrapped in chicken wire

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and then weighted down with cinder blocks before being placed
into a pond south of Washington Avenue in the town
of Oaktaha, located approximately thirty five miles northeast of Peggy's
home along Highway sixty nine. Bert Pool was clear with
reporters that the tip was received from someone who knew
Peggy prior to her disappearance. He explained, quote, there were

(01:08:51):
some people that knew Peggy back in twenty fifteen. They
were hearing stuff. They were talking amongst themselves at one
place or the other. One gentleman has moved away, and
he's the person that's been calling us and saying, you
might want to go to Oktaha and check the pond.
I believe she's going to be there. End quote. The

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Muskogee County Sheriff's Office, in addition to the Lighthorse Police,
conducted a search of the pond for just over three hours,
but they did not locate any evidence or signs of Peggy.
They noted at the time that they would likely return
to the pond for a more focused and deeper search
when the weather made that a possibility. Two months later,

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investigators lived up to their word, and on Friday, April fifth,
investigators returned to the pond, which they noted this time
as being in the backyard of a local resident. Betty
and Donnie made the trip for McIntosh County to watch
the search. Investigators brought along a pump so that they
could lower the water level in the pond, believing that

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Peggy's remains may be buried in the mud at the bottom.
Watching on in huh rushed to anticipation, Betty explained her
feelings to reporters, saying, quote, my stomach went churning. I
had a little hope. They say she ran off. Sh
didn't run off. She would not leave her little boy
or family. It's an awful feeling end quote. As the

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water was pumped out from the pond, a nearby creek
was catching the runoff, and this caused a creek to
begin overflowing, forcing law enforcement to turn the pump off.
With the water lowered enough, searchers began digging down into
the muddy earth, but ultimately they couldn't find anything connected
to their investigation. Asked about the likelihood that Peggy's body

(01:10:41):
was down there somewhere, the family stated that they didn't
think it was likely, but they do wholeheartedly believe someone
in the area knows what happened to Peggy and where
her remains might be. Unfortunately, until one of them comes forward,
that search will never end. Betty explained, quote, we know

(01:11:01):
there are a few people who know where she's at,
and I hope it eats up their heart. Hopefully one
day there will be closure end quote. When last scene,
Peggy Ann McGuire was described as being a woman of
dual heritage, white and Native, enrolled with the Muscogee Creek Nation.

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Peggy has shoulder length, wavy, strawberry blonde hair, and blue eyes.
She stands five feet ten inches tall and weighs approximately
one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty pounds.
Peggy wears a size ten shoe and has pierced ears.
She has a surgery scar on her right knee and

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a tattoo on her lower back depicting a horseshoe with stars.
And a four leaf clover with the initials J N S,
which are partially faded. She was last confirmed to have
been seen on the morning of Monday, November sixteenth, twenty
five fifteen, in Canadian Oklahoma, dropping her son off for

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school at around eight am. It's believed that she returned
to her Stidham home after dropping him off. She has
never been seen again. At the time of her disappearance,
Peggy was twenty eight years old, and if alive today,
she'd be turning thirty nine this November. A one hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars reward remains in place for information
leading to recovery of her remains. Peggy Maguire was a beautiful, talented,
caring and driven nurse, daughter and mother. She loved being
a mom to young Ethan, and her entire world revolved

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around doing everything she could to try and create the
best life for him. At work, she bent over backwards
to take care of her patients, and at home she
worked hard from morning till night taking care of her,
her farm and beloved animals. She was, according to everyone
who knew her, one of the most wonderful and kind

(01:13:07):
people you could ever hope to meet. Sadly, her life
was cut short for reasons no one has yet determined,
and this November will mark not only her thirty ninth birthday,
but ten years since she was last seen alive. Her
son is nearly an adult, but never really got to
know the mother who loved him more than anything else.

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Though a mystery shrouds the truth, someone out there knows,
and their silence continues to rob a family of closure.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
A woman of justice and a son of his mother's love.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Asked about the loss of her daughter nearly a decade later,
Betty replied, quote, Holidays were always a big deal for us.
We'd have a big dinner, and it just isn't the
same anymore. I don't think she's still alive. Peggy had
no reason to leave her family or son. We just

(01:14:03):
hang in there, don't give up. One day you'll have answers,
or maybe you have your loved one, just hoping that
day comes soon. We just want closure, basically, and we
hope one day we'll get that. The disappearance of Peggy

(01:14:27):
Maguire is a heartbreaking and frustrating case for which no solid,
evidence based answers have ever been provided. The frustration comes
not from a lack of theories or speculation, not from
the absence of clues or indications of what likely occurred,
but more so from the failure of law enforcement to
act with urgency and focus, or perhaps, as some might argue,

(01:14:50):
to act in any way whatsoever. When Peggy was reported missing,
her case was treated as though she'd randomly elected to
run off, leaving behind all of her belonging, her entire family,
the job she loved, in the house she was working on,
in addition to the most important person in her life,
her one and only son. The snail's pace at which

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law enforcement conducted their initial investigation, and I used the
term investigation loosely, did more to hamper this case than
anything else. Even the OSBI, who tried to answer as
politely and politically as they could, were forced to admit
that maybe if they had been called into the case earlier,
there would have been some hope of finding answers, or

(01:15:33):
at least obtaining evidence solid enough to identify and name
a suspect or even a person of interest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
But that didn't happen here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
They weren't called in for weeks and during the period
leading up to their involvement. It's anyone's guess how much
evidence may have been destroyed or hidden up to and
including Peggy's remains. For weeks, the family were stuck doing
the investigation themselves. They put up flyers, interviewed friends, family,
offered rewards, and carried out searches. They searched on foot,

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with ATVs, using drones, and they got everyone they could involved.
Family members traveled in from out of state, neighbors dedicated
their time and energy to helping out, and even complete
strangers just locals living in and around the area gave
what time and effort they could to try and help out.

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They began their searches at Peggy's home, then started expanding
into her property and then, with permission, onto the property
of neighbors. As they were doing this, local law enforcement
noted they couldn't search anywhere because they didn't have a
starting point. Then, when the family searches continued to grow
with more and more people joining in, law enforcement advised

(01:16:47):
them to stop the searches all together. Why because if
they did find anything, they could contaminate evidence or the scene.
A legitimate concern, no doubt, But if they weren't going
to search themselves, the family sure was I'm planning to
just sit around waiting. When the OSBI did finally get involved,

(01:17:08):
not by the way a result of law enforcement reaching
out early on, but from a conglomeration of different sources,
including the family begging them for help and a local
reporter contacting them about the case, things were already rather cold.
Just days after officially getting on the case, the OSBI
issued multiple warrants focusing on Peggy's home and property, as

(01:17:31):
well as the properties of surrounding neighbors. They sought information
from Peggy's phone and social media, as well as Thomas
McIntosh's search warrants were executed on her truck as well
as his and properties owned by the macintosh family, including
the one at which the Koboda tractor was generally kept.

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During the execution of these warrants, multiple samples of a
blood like substance were recovered from the home, Macintosh's truck,
and tractor, but all of the testing was for naught,
as too much time had passed and the samples were
too degraded to provide any evidentiary value. Another consequence of
failing to act when the time and circumstances had demanded it,

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Peggy was last seen on the morning of Monday, November sixteenth,
dropping her son off at school in Canadian She was
last spoken to on the phone between nine and ten am.
From that point forward, her cell phone powers off and
all traces of the young mother disappear along with her.
For the next two days, no one's able to get
in touch with Peggy. Her parents reach out through calls

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and text, but receive no answer. Coworkers do the same,
but the phone doesn't even ring. It just goes straight
to voicemail. On Wednesday the eighteenth, after stopping by the
house and finding no sign of Peggy or her truck,
her mother finally contacts the Sheriff's department, who take her
report and say they'll keep an eye out for Peggy,
but beyond that nothing's really done. They tell the family

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that in all likelihood, she's left of her own volition
and will return when she's ready, something that no one
who knows the missing woman believes even for a second.
The OSBI, for their part, are generally complimented by the family,
who were grateful for their assistance. They executed warrants, collected evidence,

(01:19:22):
and did as much as they could, despite being called
in late and working with a staff that was at
one point described as shorthanded. However, things weren't perfect there either.
Betty had made it clear that when she saw Peggy's
truck after it was taken in for processing, it didn't
look to her as though they had thoroughly searched the vehicle.

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She didn't see any dust to suggest there was any
fingerprinting done, and when she asked why, she was allegedly
informed that since Macintosh was a co signer on the
vehicle and lived with Peggy, they would fully expect to
find his prints in the truck, So why by they're
checking it all right? This never made any any sense
to me, even if the lawyer could argue away the

(01:20:03):
presence of those prints, What if you found prints that
belonged to someone else or some unidentified third party? Seems
rather ridiculous to ignore potential evidence, especially when, and I
should make this very clear, Macintosh has never been named
as a suspect or a person of interest. Why a

(01:20:24):
more thorough job wasn't done, I simply don't know. Since
this case is so wide open, it's almost impossible to
speculate about too many possibilities because almost anything could have happened.
Rather than toying around with different angles, Let's just focus
in on what everyone's been talking about since day one,

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Thomas McIntosh. Now, before going any further, let me preface
the rest of this episode by saying all claims are
alleged in my speculation or opinion, other than those details
which have already been established as fact by Lawn Forsement.
During the course of this investigation, I've covered a handful
of cases like this one in the sense that law

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enforcement is fenced in by what they are and are
not allowed to say. Family, friends and locals have no
such restraint, and over the last ten years they've been
pretty open about what they believe. Peggy's mother has been
clear and direct from the beginning that she believes Thomas
McIntosh was involved in her daughter's disappearance, and given what's
been said and established about their relationship history, it's difficult

(01:21:32):
to see much error in her point of view or beliefs.
We know that Peggy was caught up in a vicious
cycle of violence and abuse, at least as pertains to
the opinions of friends and family who at the time
were in the position to know. It's been stated that
going back to high school Macintosh was violent, jealous, and
a controlling man who could fly into a rage if

(01:21:54):
Peggy were merely seen speaking to another guy, let alone
flirting or anything beyond that. We have a lot of
stories about things that are alleged to have happened, from
physical abuse to the destruction of property, smashing car windows,
kicking indoors, etc. Suffice it to say there's a very clear,
circumstantial trail created based purely on passed behaviors that have

(01:22:18):
to be factored into the circumstances leading up to Peggy's disappearance.
So let's take a look at what we know about
Peggy's last hours and see how the wind is blowing
in the aftermath. Peggy's living with McIntosh in a home
she bought the he co signed on, and she's driving
a truck that she bought that he also co signed on.

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According to friends and family, she was trying to do
everything she could to provide her son with a real family,
while also telling Macintosh that their relationship moving forward was
going to be all about their son. She was done
with any romantic aspects and they would have no future
together outside of something platonic. It was alleged that despite this,

(01:23:00):
McIntosh continued to try and convince Peggy to date again
or to get back together, but she was resistant and
had even started seeing other people, like the guy from Texas.
They kept living together in the Didham home, but they
maintained separate bedrooms and reportedly kept to their own parts
of the dwelling. Peggy had reportedly told one of her

(01:23:21):
cousins that she was planning to get away from McIntosh
for good, to move out of the house and in
with her mother while she looked for a new place
to start over. It's not made clear, but it seems
apparent that this was not information she shared with McIntosh
in advance, and therefore any efforts by her to move
out would be handled quietly. At one point, it said

(01:23:43):
that she was planning to take the next weekend off
so she could begin moving things out without McIntosh knowing,
but how much of that was true versus wishful thinking
is unknown. As of the morning of Monday, November sixteenth,
we know that Peggy was seeing another man and was
taking the following day off to spend time with them.
Law enforcement would later speak to this man, who gave

(01:24:05):
them details about his last conversation with Peggy, but there
are questions to which the answers have never been supplied.
Was this man aware of Peggy's living arrangements and history
with Macintosh, or was that a subject she purposefully steered
clear of when they spoke. It would be deeply insightful
to know what, if anything, this guy may have been

(01:24:26):
told or intuited about their relationship, the status of things
between them at the time, and any future plans Peggy
may have had about leaving. It's quite apparent, assuming all
of the claims about abuse and violence are legitimate, that
the situation between Peggy and Macintosh was a powder keg
rife for explosion, and all it was going to take

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was the slightest spark. Betty Davis later told reporters that
she was very concerned for her daughter's safety and even
raised the topic with her. Reportedly, Peggy replied that she
had enough information on McIntosh to take him for everything
he was worth should he decide to try and do
something to her. In the end, however, whatever she had

(01:25:10):
may not have been enough, and she may have underestimated
to what extent he was willing to go should the
circumstances shift in away. He didn't like, we know that
Peggy always dropped off and picked up her son from school.
There was a list which she had provided to administrators
of those who were approved to pick Ethan up should

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she not be available. Notably absent from that list was
Thomas McIntosh, who family and friends have said never picked
Ethan up from school. Following the morning of the sixteenth,
when Peggy mysteriously vanished, it's been reported that Macintosh called
the school told them he would be picking up his
son late, and that he was doing so because Peggy

(01:25:52):
was stuck working. This is the first major question in
the case for which no answer has ever been supplied.
But if mac when Tash told law enforcement that he
last saw Peggy when she was leaving that morning, how
did he know she wouldn't be able to pick up
their son that afternoon. For the record, she was off
that day and the next day, so she certainly wasn't

(01:26:14):
working late. After this, we know from phone conversations that
Peggy drove home to Stidham and returned to her house.
According to the guy from Texas that she was seeing
and who was also the last person to speak to her,
she was in the process of making deer jerky for him.
He was planning to come up into Oklahoma that night

(01:26:35):
to spend time with Peggy, but for work reasons, he
ended up having to cancel. Peggy, however, never learned about
the cancelation, as when the man tried to call her
back that morning, her phone went straight to voicemail. OSBI
records later showed that on the morning of her disappearance,
Peggy's phone was pinging in the area surrounding her house

(01:26:56):
and Thomas McIntosh's phone was pinging in close proxy to it.
Due to the state of that cell phone data, it's
not enough to narrow down to a sharply specific location,
so all they can be said is that their phones
were within the same coverage area. Obviously, that isn't enough
information to confirm that McIntosh was at the house that

(01:27:17):
morning when Peggy got back, but one must wonder where
exactly he claimed to be that morning and who or
what provided the alibi. This detail has never been revealed,
if in fact it is known. For the next two days,
Peggy's just gone. She doesn't go home, answer her phone,
respond to texts, and no one sees her in or

(01:27:39):
around town. The guy from Texas can't get in touch
with her, and since he doesn't make the trip, he
never sees her. According to Betty, during this period of
time and leading all the way up to the discovery
of Peggy's truck the day after she's reported missing. For
reasons no one can quite explain, McIntosh doesn't try to
get in touch with her at all. He doesn't call,

(01:28:02):
he doesn't text, he doesn't do anything. It's rather interesting
that these two live together and co parented, and presumably
were in touch when need be, but after she disappears,
he doesn't consider it worth trying to track her down
or get in touch with her. Some would speculate that
this is a behavior common in offenders who have no
reason to reach out because they already know there's no

(01:28:24):
one capable of answering. For the record, Peggy's phone has
never been found. Peggy's truck is found by her brother
at t Injay's Ice House, a bar ten miles from
the Stidham home that Peggy reportedly never visited. In fact,
it said she doesn't even drink alcohol. Surveillance footage shows
an unknown individual dropping the truck off in the early

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morning hours of Tuesday, November seventeenth, less than twenty four
hours after Peggy is last seen. The quality of the
video is extremely poor, making it difficult to make out
anything beyond general shapes. In the footage, an unknown individual
is seen exiting the truck and walking back out of
the parking lot, out of range of the camera. This

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person is later spotted by a neighbor, but ducks into
the weeds along the side of the road as she
approaches in her vehicle, so she doesn't get a good
look either. While the OSBI tried to enhance the footage,
they were unable to do so. Curiously, this footage has
never been released in full to the public, which I
find somewhat odd.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
It's been ten years, why don't you share it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Not to mention, with advancements that have been made in
video editing software, you'd think someone might actually be able
to sharpen it up, but that hasn't happened yet. The
family firmly believes that the person seen in the video
is Macintosh, although I must admit I can barely see
anything in that video. It's kind of a mess. It

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was raining and the video is very pixelated in of
poor quality. I don't think you can identify someone on
that camera unless they walk up up to within ten
feet of it and looks straight into the lens, and
even then you might have some doubts about who it
could possibly be. Now, according to the family, McIntosh came
down to the bar while police were there and he

(01:30:13):
was interviewed by a deputy. It gets reported that he
claims to have not seen Peggy since she left to
drop Ethan off at school, and he theorizes that she
ran off with another guy. We really aren't privy to
any information more detailed than that. There is a claim
that Ethan says his father showed him the truck at
the bar and was told that his mother had run

(01:30:36):
off with another guy before the truck was officially found
and reported to law enforcement. But that statement, if indeed
it was made, is not repeated and can't be backed
up by anyone. So whether or not he said it,
I simply don't know. After this everything is really circumstantial
and more speculative than we've already seen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Claims to see.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
McIntosh operating a tractor on the property that morning slash
early afternoon. He claims the bucket is high up, and
he theorizes that perhaps Peggy's body was in there, but
no one knows. Macintosh's lawyer knows that the neighbor is mistaken,
and that McIntosh drove the tractor the day before the disappearance,
Sunday the fifteenth. Even if the neighbor is accurate in

(01:31:23):
seeing the tractor that day, it does little to lend
any support to the claim that McIntosh was involved in
Peggy's disappearance. Unless the witness actually saw something incriminating his
count doesn't amount to much. Some have wondered, and I
along with them, why McIntosh would decide to move the
body in that way, If indeed that's what he was doing,

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he could have easily waited until night and done so
under the cover of darkness, where maybe no one would
have seen anything. But we simply don't know. The OSBI
gets their warrants and they collect a few pieces of evidence,
namely swabs from blood like stains on the couch and
back porch, as well as inside of Macintosh's truck, but

(01:32:06):
because of their condition and the passage of time, the
evidence provides nothing of substance. A gun is recovered, and
while that was intriguing, there's no comments made about the
condition of it had it been fired recently. Did any
of the Chambers hold as spent round again no solid answers.
Law enforcement says they are pieces of a puzzle and

(01:32:28):
it would all make sense later. But ten years have
gone by and it still makes no sense to me.
That's kind of where it all ends. Just days into
the investigation and they're already hitting a dead end with
the case growing cold. Some have speculated that the reason
law enforcement was slow to act was because of the

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name of the man implicated, Macintosh. It's worth noting they're
in Macintosh County, named after his ancestor, and his family
has power, money and prestige. Could that have been enough
to steer police out of the way, or at least
to have slowed down the investigation. Possibly, It's difficult to say,

(01:33:12):
and that's sort of one of the sticking points of
this case. I think getting caught up in the semantics
of what might have been rather than focusing on what
certainly was. Personally, I think there are much more direct
and black and white details to pay attention to that
spell things out much more clearly than any rumors about

(01:33:34):
corruption might be. If my ex girlfriend, the woman I
lived with, the mother of my child, went missing, there
are things I wouldn't do. I'd be out there beating
the bushes searching for her, putting up flyers, trying to
get attention on the case. I'd be spending time with
her family, supporting them and doing what I could to help.

(01:33:57):
I'd be on the news talking to reporters, giving interviews,
trying to keep the story alive. I'd be working with
law enforcement, telling them everything I knew and trying my
hardest to aid them in their investigation, probably to the
point where they'd find me a bit annoying. I'd be online,
posting on social media, making YouTube videos to garner attention.

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I'd be going to my wealthy family and asking them
for help, be it monetary or volunteering for searches. I'd
be telling my son that his mother loved him and
would never have abandoned him, not for any reason or
any other person on the face of this earth. So
why doesn't Macintosh do these things? Why doesn't he seem

(01:34:41):
interested in helping or even remotely concerned about her well
being and safety. Why am I a complete stranger who
has never met Peggy doing more right now than the
father of her son has ever done to advance this case?
Keep this story alive and spread the word Peggy's disappearance.

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If you can find the answer to those questions, then
maybe you'll have some idea of just what in the
hell happened here? Although I imagine you already do. This isn't
a mysterious disappearance. It's a murder investigation where only one
name comes up time and time and time again, and
yet nothing is ever done to dig deeper to find

(01:35:23):
the truth. Would you lie to protect your brother to
cover up a murder? How about your son, or your
cousin or your uncle? How far would you be willing
to go? How much horror could you swallow down to
keep a killer free? And just what happens if one
day that killer strikes again, How would you ever wash

(01:35:46):
all of that blood from your hands? That's a question
certain people in this case need to answer. Nearly ten
years have passed since Peggy am McGuire vanished on the
morning of November sixth teenth, twenty fifteen. In all the
time that's passed, few developments have been revealed, and little

(01:36:07):
progress has been made. There is one thing on which
the family and law enforcement all agree. Someone out there
knows the truth, Someone out there has the answers that
can help bring justice, or at a minimum, to give
a family the chance to lay their loved one to rest,
where they might finally be granted the ability to grieve

(01:36:29):
without the nagging questions of where is she and what
happened to her? One hundred and fifty thousand dollars reward
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars is a hell of
a lot of money for me, and I imagine for
a lot of others. That is life changing cash to
be awarded for information leading to the recovery of Peggy's remains. Now,

(01:36:52):
either someone is too scared to collect that money, or
maybe everyone who knows the truth has a lot more
money than that at their disposal. Either way, unless someone
comes forward or new evidence is found, the disappearance of
Peggy McGuire will remain open, unsolved, and growing cold. If

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you're looking for more information about the disappearance of Peggy maguire,
there are many new sites and forums detailing her case.
For this episode, both the Indian Journal and Macintosh County
Democrat were the most helpful. Peggy's case has been featured
on other podcasts, and her mother Betty, sat for an
interview on Unfound, which I highly recommend listening to. There's

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a link in the show notes. The family maintains a
private Facebook group entitled Bring Peggy Home. You can request
to join, but they're very select of about who they
let in and I was unable to gain access. If
you have any information about the disappearance of Peggy Maguire,

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please contact the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation Southeast Investigative
Regional Office at five eight zero two nine eight five
five two five. Her case number is two zero one
five DASH one four seven five. You can also contact

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the Macintosh County Sheriff's Office at nine one eight six
eight nine two five two six. She is case number
one five dash zero nine two five. Finally, you can
reach out to Oklahoma crime Stoppers at one eight five
five nine seven five seven two three three or by

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visiting Oka crime stole dot com. There you can report
information completely anonymously should you desire to remember, A one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars reward for information leading to
Peggy's location remains available.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
What do you believe happened?

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Tweet me at trace Evpod, email me at trace Evidencepod
at gmail dot com, or comment.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
In the Facebook group.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
You can find all social media and contact links in
the show notes. Now, I'd like to take a moment
to shout out and thank our amazing Patreon producers, without
whom this podcast would not be possible. Andrew Guarino, Ann Bertram,
Christine Greco, Crystal Jay Dierthi, Denise Stingsdale, Dianni Dyson, Jennifer Winkler,

(01:39:55):
Justin Snyder, Caro Morland, Leslie b, Lisa Hopson, Nick Mohar, Shers,
Roberta Janssen, Stacy Finnegan, and Tom Radford. Your continued support
and confidence means the world to me, and you are
what makes Trace Evidence possible. If you would like to

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support Trace Evidence on Patreon, you can visit us at
patreon dot com slash trace Evidence. This concludes our look
into the disappearance of Peggy Maguire, an extremely solvable case
that remains a mystery for now, but I honestly believe
this case will be solved sooner than later, or at

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least I sincerely hope.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
So I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Thank you all for listening and apologize about my horrible
schedule of late but I am working on episode two
forty eight currently and aim to release it next week,
so once again, thank you all for listening, and I
hope you'll join me next week for another unsolved case.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
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