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June 27, 2025 25 mins

Today’s episode takes us into the heart of what second chances—and the people who make them possible—can really mean.

We’ll meet Tabby Heitmeier, a young woman whose early struggles in a traditional high school setting nearly derailed her aspirations—but who found her way back through the kind of personalized support that only a place like Carl Sandburg College’s Carthage Campus can offer. And joining her is Linda Thomas, the tireless campus coordinator whose quiet commitment has helped shepherd countless students back onto pathways of success.

This conversation is raw at times. It touches on systems that didn’t serve Tabby as they should have—but it’s also filled with resilience, mentorship, and the practical hope that comes from having a clear path forward.

If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to help someone trade up from a place of uncertainty to one of purpose, this episode is for you.

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