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Welcome back everybody, to another episode of Extra Trashy.
And wait a minute, Adam, you're looking a little different, bro.
What's going on? Here Adam is.
Adam was busy all week not training for Capcom Cup and now
he is over there about to compete.
Did you see the that video of Adam like talking about the most

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random stuff in the world? Right right Broski was trying to
spy on idom and then the tweets kept coming out about Idoms in
depth training where it was whathim and and Jack just talking
about optimizing taking a dump if they're a baby how the hell
what's going on? Hey man, that's idom bro.
I don't feel different. I'm not going to lie.
I feel like that makes him kind of scary to fight in Capcom Cup.

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No hockey like me if I'm playingmy fucking trying shit to lose,
no pun intended. Literally, yeah, yeah.
Every time you're trying to plotagainst him, you open his stream
and he's just relaxed. And I don't know, I guess
there's a difference, right? If you open up, if you're, if
you're in Kaplan Cup about to compete for $1,000,000 and you
got someone in your group and you open their stream and
they're sweating like training, like, doesn't that make you feel

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like they're kind of maybe stressing out a bit too?
Yeah, like maybe they can be worried.
Exactly. Somebody who's entirely calm
bro. Like I and I, I don't know if
you remember there was a tournament not long ago, maybe
it was ECT. I don't know, but I don't play
it against Samurai, but he just was doing the most like I you
could. He was doing stuff that like you
could tell he felt like the gamewas bad.

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He's like, you know what, Like Iknew from watching that's what
he was saying. I knew that's what those games
and it worked. He was clearly like.
So I think he's kind of mentallychecked out to some degree, but
in a way that's effective. Maybe that was cream city
convergence and I think I actually he did talk about his
thoughts with that. And so there was a little bit of

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method to the madness, but he was like, yeah, like samurai
just doesn't stop DI. So IDID him like there's
something about that. And it's a it's an interesting
topic because people reference that meme where it's like, it's
like the bell curve with fighting games or with any kind
of gaming thing, right. And in the beginning of like,
Wow, all I do is mash buttons. And then in the middle where
like most of the players are, it's like, oh, it's super

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complex. It's high level frame data and
hit boxes and hurt boxes and allof this.
And then at that high level again, it's all I do is mash
buttons. When you talk to certain high
level players, they really do treat the game like that.
Like when I talk to Idom, he makes the game seem so simple to
the point where like it does feel a little stupid.
But when you really sit back andthink about it, you're like,
yeah, you're kind of right. He's like, yeah, against

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Samurai, I do random DI and I, Igo ham because he's, what is he
going to do to stop it? He's not going to react.
He's focused on this or whatever.
And it's true, it works. I think that's because like, how
can I put it? I actually believe it or not
guys I I had paid for like FIFA coaching recently like so I had
this weird thing where no matterwhat game I'm playing, I don't

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know how to play games casually all like that.
So I even if I only play it for like 2-3 months, I'm going to
get in depth, putting in hours, really trying to learn the meta
because that's the, that's what I'm used to.
So I've got to the point at FIFAwhere I've gotten like really
good person, the average person.But I remember this dude well,
now I remember it just like 2 days ago.

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But the, the coach, he's like, yeah, so pretty much all you got
to worry about is like trying togo for like a a Travella, which
is like an outside foot shot or like going for a speed boost.
Like a 5050 pretty much. Even though he didn't know what
the turn 5050 was my fighting internology.
But he broke it down to this basic two things.
But the reason he said, the reason he broke it down to these
basic two things is because at this point I'm subconsciously

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doing all the other fundamental things like so the I think the
same thing in fighting games, like if you talk to Idom or
whoever, like I mean, any hollowyourself, even like any high
level or tournament player, I think you're kind of more
subconsciously doing all of the other things.
So it's easier to just like be like, OK, all I got to do it
against this guy. Does this guy tech or not?

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Or you know what I mean? Doesn't react to DI.
But that's because there is the million calculations per second
is just happening in their subconscious at that point, you
know? Yeah, they've internalized it to
that point. Yeah, a lot of players are
actually really good at making the game seem so simple.
It almost seems stupid. And there's a whole other
conversation there, which I do want to I get into with you at
some point. I think we have a lot of other

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pertinent topics with Captain Cup coming up.
I want to go into first. But you know, Item, you know,
I'm sure some people are watching this episode like, oh,
finally they kicked Item off theshow for good because Item.
And some people say stop the wayyou talk.
Something I don't bro listen, you can call you can talk trash
about the game when you cap hunkup champ man, I'm standing up
for my boy item. But that's that's an interesting

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conversation because I don't think there's, I think there's a
newer generation of players who don't know how many EVO and cup
champions, while they are dominating, talk mad shit about
the game they're winning in. Yes, because you know why?
And we, we know personally thosepeople and we have those stories
from the years of us traveling back in the Street Fighter five
days. We, we can, should get into
those stories. The better you get at something

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like you. It's like that curve you're
talking about, bro. It's not only I'm mashing and
then it's all this high level stuff and then I'm mashing.
It's also in every game, bro. I've I've gotten into multiple
different games since I stopped being like a Pro Street Fighter
player and I play multiple different games.
What I've learned is that the best players in every game think
the game is ass now in every game across the planet.

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I don't give a damn. They think it's too easy.
They think that it's gotten easier over time.
They think that you're letting it be easier for the scrubs to
win. And these gaming communities
don't know the other gaming communities, so they don't know
that. Their entire rhetoric is the
exact same thing that I'm hearing in completely different
types of games, let alone just different fighting games.

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I'm talking about Call of Duty. They say this, I'm talking about
Madden. I'm not making up stuff.
I'm talking about this games I actually play and I've heard
this Madden FIFA it it doesn't even marvel rivals.
They're going to be goddamn crawling over what it don't
matter bro. Like the better you get, the
more you are going to see the flaws in in whatever the game

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is. That is how.
That's and that's just every game.
Once you start optimizing a game, you push it to its limits.
You see where the limits lie andwhere the flaws lie.
But that's just how games operate, right?
Like once you get over the honeymoon phase of discovery and
you start to optimize, that's when you start to like butt
heads with the problems with every game design.
You know, Magnus cross and the best chess players is like, OK,

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well, now that we've memorized all the openings and stuff, it's
two formulaic. Now they they're making up
something new called freestyle chess.
They want to do some freestyle chess where we we give you both
a randomized position and we gotto play from there instead
because Yep, you know what I mean.
They solved the game. I'm glad you brought up that
example because I've been getting into chess a lot too.
Just I don't play you, you actually play chess a lot.

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But I've, I've been a fan of chess for a while now since
COVID actually like watching content and everything.
And it's interesting to see thatevolution because people
romanticize chess so much as as being like the thinking span
game. But at high level chess players
think chess is dumb. They do because they, they,
because they say it's all memorization, there's no skill.
And even just that that's how the high level players think.

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Like I just think if, if you getupset when a high level player
calls the game Dumber trash, youhave to understand that it's a
completely different frame of thinking.
And maybe like you, maybe you will never end up that way.
But it's just a, it's what happens when you internalize
like 99% of a game and you're left at the last .0001% where
you see the limits of where you can go.
It starts to seem dumb. But yeah, I I do.

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That's actually a really good conversation.
But for this one, though, we gottoo much to talk about because
Captain Cup, we're recording this on Sunday.
Captain Cup is starting in like on Wednesday and a handful of
days, too many storylines comingup.
But what I wanted to get into, since we've already done like 15
different episodes, Captain Fighters and everything, we
don't have a bunch of stuff talking about this.
What we haven't talked about since we last synced up, Rob was

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Street Fighter League US playoffs and you were there live
in person, literally playing bouncer, you know, to keep the
action suitable for the officialchannels.
But yeah, Punk, the God coming and clutch for for team fly
quest to take St. part of the USfinals over team Bandits and the
drama that ensued. And for people who don't know,

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you know, Punk LED fly quest to that victory.
Bandits was running the long marathon to make the comeback
there. They started in the the lower
position. They had to go through C9 first
and then fighting spirits and then go up against Fly Quest.
So it was MENA leading Bandits versus punk leading Fly Quest
and punk hooks like. Man, he's on some other.

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It was kind of free. OK, so before we get to Punk,
can I just put this side note inthere that in my humble opinion,
Cloud Mine should have let Noah play.
I know he got his whooped duringStreet Fighter League, but that
and there's no excuse. But it was his First Street
Fighter League. He got smoked but since that
Street Fighter league he literally won a CPT event at

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bleak respawn. He literally just won another
tournament. Non CPT but wins frosty
frostings. He is on fire right now.
Ever since Street Fighter league.
I personally believe now he's used to it.
It's that big crowd, big audience in, in, in attendance,
sold out venue. That is where he is comfortable

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and these you're putting him in a 10 point match.
In my opinion, put him in a 10 point first or two match with
that placed out. I think that's a bit of a fumble
respectfully, to not let Noah play a match.
I think I think it was. I wonder what the strategy was
there because you know it, it seemed like the C9 their tagline
became no egos as in like, hey, Noah, please stop talking so we

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can bench you like, you know what I mean?
Like I even boost quoted that I was like, dude, what is this
thing? Because like, I think I think
Noah was saying that before he'slike, I don't care if you bench
me, like whatever the right playis, like it doesn't bother me
being benched. But I kind of agree.
I'm not really sure what the whole strategy was with that.
Because like they they for C9, Ithink the main problems were

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like boost didn't come clutch versus MENA Rd. which is what
they're banking on because boosthas done that, right?
Boost, he made his name off beating MENA Rd. essentially,
right. Boost won the first World
Warrior for USE speeding MENA Rd. and that's what it's like.
Boom, yeah, he's legit, he's real.
Then he did it right away again in like the the regular season
for Street Fighter League US. So it's like, OK, it's not a

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fluke. He's on it twice now.
And then come to the playoffs, MENA Rd. busts out the M Bison,
which was I think that was the missing link the last time we
talked like what character he's going to play M Bison.
He and he only use that for Boost.
Yeah, and it was and he he beat boosts ass.
Shout out to my man's Boost. I will say and even if something
with that, you know, give you guys some behind the scenes

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stuff like I feel like boost be pretty broken up when he lose,
especially a situation like that.
He's very passionate about it. Won't go into the personal
stuff, but I will say in the endof the day, with somebody like
Boost to me, you need that type of loss, bro.
It's cool. That's what everybody got to go
through. Boost's not used to really being
on this type of stage. So he got to see, oh, MENA Rd.

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There's MENA RDI fighting World Warrior, and then there's MENA
RDI fighting Catch. Then there's MENA Rd. when it
matters the God damn most. And I think when you play
against that, that helps you become that too, you know what I
mean? But you got to be in those
situations first. That said, I still would have
put, I would have put boots there.
I like that situation, putting boots there.

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But I man, I don't know. Yeah, that.
But that's that 1 I think. They they put JB versus Louis
man, first round, they won that.And then Lex versus Jen, which I
don't mind that either, but but I don't understand why everyone
keeps putting guile up against Bison.
I think Bison beats Kyle in thisgame.
So I would have put Noah there at least you know what I mean?
Like they kept doing that and I thought like that was very

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strange the the guy all Bison, because even when even bandits
that happened later on with likein another set, they kept
putting weird matchups against the Gen.
They kept feeding him good matchups because I really do
think Bison just has so many good matchups.
But yeah, Noah they they lost a little too early.
So like there might have been anopportunity for Noah to play but
since they only won the first set.

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Yeah, they kind of got cooked. For the rest of it.
So they didn't really get to see, I think.
I don't really feel like it's hard to confirm that they were
just like purposely keeping Noahcompletely locked out.
It almost felt like they didn't even get the opportunity.
To even use them because they might have used them in a future
situation. Yeah, that's true.
But I feel like when it came to the when it came to fly Quest,
you know, of course they startedoff in grand finals.

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In my opinion, this is not coming from them.
I feel like their best chance was for Bandits not to make it
to the finals. Now even getting there, I can
see either team, but I think they're sitting there watching
that. You know I got I got to paint a
picture for you guys. So I don't know if y'all know we
were actually in Capcom headquarters.
That cool ass venue was the actual LA headquarters for

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Capcom. So there's these huge tiers and
everything right? There's banners for every single
for for each for all of the fourteams up there with every guy's
face on the huge banners. And there's these different
levels and throughout the whole tournament you just you can look
up and you just see Punk and theother fly quest dudes like as
shadows looking down at the tournament.

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Like I swear to goodness, it wasso cold.
Like some final boss activity orsomething like that.
Right. So my thing is, Brian, I know
you know about this as far as like playing the tournaments,
bro, like it's fire to be in grand finals, but at the same
time it's tough because you sitting there waiting.
They. You're cold as hell, these guys.
Whoever plays against Flock Quest is on absolute fire at

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that moment, you know? So I don't, I personally don't
think they wanted bandits to make it there, but clearly
punking them boys didn't give a a damn overall.
But I think anyone else would have been easier.
But the next match was. I just want to, I don't want to
talk about the whole match, but Flock versus bandits, I mean,
oh, Flock Quest, Yeah. Fighting Spirit versus bandits,
bro. How about my men's men are

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losing bang to DCQ and then I don't know if you remember, they
sent MENA up early to get a 10 point so that Klaba.
Klaba could clutch it out against DCQ in the in the 30
point spot and it was like it was 32.
DCQ ended up getting it, but that meant that MENA got to go

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up again against the motherfucker who just destroyed
him three O or something like that.
My man's minute clips it out again, bro.
I mean, that's. Great.
Well, they had to choose right like it came down to the final
match between both of them. They had to figure out who's
going up and they they picked men Rd. knowing that DC because
DCQ was like the guy carrying fighting spirit, right that

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point. So I, I forgot who was home or
away, but I think they knew, I think bandits were away, but
they knew that they're going to send up DCQ.
You know what I mean? Like they just knew that was the
play. So they put MENA Rd. up and of
course they put DCQ up and then MENA Rd. cooked.
But I just feel like, yeah, that's like the position where
MENA Rd. usually shines, right? So I think after that, I think
what you're saying is super true.
So you're a fly quest. You're sitting there in grand

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finals. You're you're literally cold
because this is outside, by the way, and I there's a lot of
technical issues. The show ran way no.
It was. No, it was inside.
That was outside. No, that's in the building, bro.
That's in the building. In the building that's inside.
Big awesome. Like it's so fucking cool.
Yeah, it's just this huge open. OK.
Oh yeah, that was checking the weather.
I was seeing the the sun go downand I was like, man, I was

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checking the weather and like itwas like 60 something degrees.
I was like, they got to be physically cold.
This big clear glass, you know, it's amazing cooler building.
So it looks the same. So that's why yeah, that was
indoors. It just it's like a OK or
something. OK, well, that's better than I
thought. Yeah, I thought they were out
there freezing. I'm like, damn, like W, I'd be
bundled up and get some hot chocolate or something.

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Like you got to stay physically warm.
OK, they're good. Well, they're cold in game, but
at least they're physically, they're not freezing 'cause
yeah, after watching bandits like you watchman Rd. you don't
want him to build that momentum regardless.
But then you see him be put intothe position where he has to
make the clutch finishing blow, right?
And he does it. It's like, oh shit, like here we
go again with Menardi, like being on the the precipice of

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the feet and then clutching a victory.
So that was scary to see them goup against that.
And I was definitely like worried for them.
But they came out swinging. I mean, that was like quest
cooked. And then everyone except for
Chris got their big win. And by the way, Chris kind of
trolled. I don't know if you know exactly
what happened with the Cabo the the first set with Christy Ch
and Kaaba where Chris almost wonthat set.

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Chris I, I saw him do the set up.
He knocked down Kaaba in the corner.
Kaaba had like a bar and like a pixel of drive meter and he gets
like a knocked out of the cornerand he activates level 2 to
force him to maybe block the level 2 and get some pressure or
whatever, right? But he does the heavy version of
level 2 from Ed which flies really quick.

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So it flies past Kaaba on wake up and the reason he did that I
remember seeing this tweet from Chris CCH.
He's like wow even Fudo is usingthe the 1500 Mr. tech in Japan.
There was a random ranked monster who was like trolling
with some guy. And at one point you do that
level 2 and instead of throwing the slow one that makes you
block it, you throw the heavy one that flies past them.

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They wake up Perry and you walk up, grab him and.
You get a free punish counter throw.
But I was sitting with one of made out Kaaba.
I was a little Filipino man in, in, in fucking Flakido during
that. Of course, Chris show me or
whatever, you know? And he's like, Oh my fucking
God, why did he do that? Everybody seen that fucking
Twitter video? It's Chris.
I saw that. I was like, dude, Chris, you

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tweeted about this. And like The funny thing is he
tweeted about it because Fudo tried it.
He's he saw Fudo tried in a highlevel match and it failed.
Like the guy didn't Perry and then Fudo died.
And so Chris ECH saw the opportunity to close out the
first set of Street Fighter league US playoff grand finals
with a troll setup, which is like meant to like troll like
lower ranked master players. And then Kava just didn't bite
at all and he made the whole comeback and won the set.

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And I'm like, dude, So he kind of blew his chance to to help.
And I feel bad because he actually did really good in the
regular other season, but like, people tuned into the playoffs
and like, oh, Chris got carried and, you know, and then you
dodged him for the interview. Oh OK, OK first before the
interview thing, I just want to tell y'all in between match like
hooking up, what is it? In between breaks?

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Every time there was a break I was out there doing what we call
crowd work. So I will always go out there
with the microphone, talk to thecrowd, hype everybody up,
whatever interact. So on this one, I randomly
before grand finals, I'm talkingto Punk and and and Mina on the
mic. Like I didn't bring in both of
us walked over to both of them, talked to them a bit.
Punk's confidence. Both of them were comfortable,
but Punk had like a angry confidence or some shit, bro.

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Like it was he was like, you know, he's like, well, we going
to win like but like with his lips pierced to sit, he getting
in certain molds. You don't talk about Brian.
You noticed that on that interview or whatever what
you'll talk about later. But yeah, anyway, what did you
just bring up Brian? Oh, the Chris fucking Chris.
OK bro, you guys killed me for the Chris Chris, he said.
I I went to look at the video. People like, Oh my God, no

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interview for Chris. That's fucked up, bro.
When I went out there 1 Brian just said the show went way over
and it did. Right.
So I was only supposed to interview punk.
That's what I was told to do. Only Punk.
So we get up there and it's likedamn and I'm like all right
punk, I need you right here and y'all can do whatever order I
want to do but I need you over right here first.

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He's like well he punk insists on us getting the other players
or whatever right now. Mind you, my IFBIFB is like the
when you see Secret Service withthe fucking little thing in
their ear, people could talk to them.
That's their eye beat my shit. I found out later my shit was
entirely turned down. So I was up there.
You know, I don't give a fuck. I'm freestyling my shit up

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there. But I I didn't I couldn't even
hear production. But I know they only want me to
do punk. So I ended up doing, but I'm
like, all right, fuck it. I just go to fucking shine.
I went to fucking psycho and I'mjust picturing in my head like,
oh shit, like I know they're probably going to be on my head.
Like we got to hurry the fuck up.
So then I went to Punk. I I went to shine and cycle

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because they they did win a match.
And then I just freestyle. I'm like, all right, fuck, we
got to hurry up. In hindsight, I would have
preferred, in hindsight, I wouldhave just fucking asked Chris
something real quick too. Like what?
The worst, worst thing happened,but I was not supposed to
interview nobody but Punk. Right.
I I see the pressure there, but and I, I think, I think you
could have got away with giving Chris the mic because I don't

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think he's about to cut a promo after he was losing both sides,
but he probably wouldn't have kept it short and sweet.
Like there wasn't a risk of him grabbing the mic and pull.
No, I like doing Noah, but I seeyour video, I see your stream
and you were like, bro, I think we're all fun, but a little bit
right there. It was not me, bro.
I was only going to interview punk like.
Right. Well, I mean, it was just funny.
It just, yeah, in, in hindsight,it's it's just, I can see why

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you're like that. But like, to the audience there,
they're like, damn, like Chris. Damn, Chris.
Lost both his matches. Lost and then Oh my God, and
then. To a lot of the people who
watched that, they're like, oh, Chris got carried and I'm like
kind of for that match. But you know, he actually did
really well in the regular season.
He was one of the best performing players aside from
obviously Punk was the MVP, but like he was I think the second

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best performing or maybe him andPsycho.
So like he was doing a lot of work.
So I just feel it was unfortunate for Chris, But I
mean, he he he handled it well. I mean he had the the the black.
History. That tweet was worth it.
That tweet was worth it bro he smoked.
It yeah. He was like, oh, like why'd you
do Chris dirty? And Chris was like, oh, it's OK,
I understand it's February. Like, like no biggie, I get you.

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But it worked out for that. But what was big about that, I
think is that, yeah, for the rest of the team, they actually
did put in work like Psycho coming out and handing Zhen his
first loss. So Zhen was basically an
honorary Dominican at that point, right?
He was actually like, men already came clutch to close out
those those sets. But Zhen was getting points
every single time like he was hewon every single set and he

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played every rotation leading uptill to the grand finals, right?
So he was cooking and it was it's kind of ironic or not
ironic, but fitting because Jen also was one of the players who
kind of underperformed during the regular season based on his
level, you know, 6th place in EVO, second Kaplan Cup, right?
Like he's been he's been a worldclass talent for a while now and
he didn't do that that hot relative to his level.

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So like he was like OK I'm here to play and then Psycho comes
out of nowhere and coax him 2O and then they send him back up
against the other Kimberly, which is now Shine playing
Kimberly and then Shine gets a win.
Hey, shut up my man. Shine Bro, hold up.
We gotta, we gotta make sure we have my brother.
He he cooked up bro, my boy Shine in the clutch.

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You honor me when it mattered most.
And my boy bought to get his 2ndstreet officially his 2nd Street
Fighter league US ring. They never gave us R rings when
we won but they are making it like getting R rings because
they for some reason they gave packing them rings.
They just skipped over R rings when we won and they gave
everybody. The second season.

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We just never got rings. So you're.
Saying first season there was rings second because you guys
won Street Fighter league US it was you shine and knuckle do
right. Yeah, I'm remembering and you
guys won the second season, but that was that was the first one.
Actually, they did Worlds right because you played together.
Yeah, we we played against Japanand just a side note, we're not
getting into it right. Just a side note, people, if you

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go look on YouTube, Street Fighter League Japan, they're
world champions. They banned Mike hearing.
If you wonder how cold I was, I was the big character, not
knuckle do not Sean and I had the second highest win
percentage in all the Street Fighter league.
Just so y'all know, they've been.
The stats are still there. It's weird.
The Street Fighter League site Iwent, I went back to it just
like the prep for the recap for everything.

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They still have all the stats for the players and they rank
them, but they don't filter based on like season or number
of appearances. So you did like one or two
seasons and you did really well.So like you're, you're like #1.
One of the fucking like all liketop.
Three like, which is, I mean, you did cook up this season, but
I think it's you can't really, no, it's not fair with people.

(24:00):
I'm talking about 15 seasons. No, I only played two fucking
seasons, of course. Right.
But you're, you're like ranked over like punk, you know what I
mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
TV. Yeah, no, no, no.
And I didn't even play it with the International 1.
So they played in a much harder league, of course.
Yeah, but you, you definitely cooked when you're up there for
sure. You, you, you gave my captain a
hard time. Season 1, too.

(24:21):
There. Who is that?
Justin. Oh Justin, oh, you're not beat
Justin the mirror match but and your Co hosts are out on I got
on out on the Street Fighter league too.
Yeah, but he's played fucking No, no, no.
No Season 2. Season 2.
Laura. Laura, Laura.
Laura. Karen versus Laura.
Yeah, bro, I was fucking being ass.

(24:41):
No, no, he was asking was that. But I will say what thing we
just talking about though, Brian?
Shine. Oh yeah, yeah, Shawn.
So they're finally giving givingus all rings too.
So Shawn is a two time Super League champion.
And of course this one's even harder than the first one.
So that's super fire, bro. And he contributed even in the
regular season. I think he might have been like
three and three or something like that, like his he and I

(25:03):
think cycle might have the same record.
Like their whole team played good.
Nobody got carried right here. And then Shawn in that big
moment against Jin, who was on fire at that time, smoking him.
That's huge. And I mean, even for shine
personally, in his pre match interview, he was talking about
how like, it means a lot to him to like he really wants to step
up and get the job done and, andsupport his team.

(25:27):
And then he had the interview with you.
Like you could hear in his voicelike he was getting emotional
about it. Because like, I, I, people don't
know like, how much self doubt, I think can go into being a
competitor, right? Like, if you haven't had like a
big win in a while, like this shit is not easy on your, your
psyche. So like I, I feel like that like
meant a lot to shine just to, tostep up when it mattered to get
that win, which put them in the position to close it out.

(25:51):
I don't know if you have any place for the content 'cause I
don't have fucking fighting in content right now right?
Like, but it one day it will be cool for us to really talk about
like the fucking, the the pitfalls that come when it comes
to compete in like the, the fucking dark side of this shit,
Like how the shit we go through,the UPS and the downs of it, you
know what I mean? But like just really raw and
then filter because that's some shit I really would like to like

(26:13):
get into and get off my chest because I, I think people don't
really think about it because they didn't see you up there on
stage. They see you win or they see you
lose and that's all they see, but they don't know how fucking,
you know, But we're not doing that now.
But I think one day that'd. Be some cool.
No, we got to. I mean, that's, that's part of
what I've been trying to do a bit more is like tell the.
Stories, yeah. Yeah, that's a big part of it.
And I think that's what draws people to the games.

(26:35):
I mean, in general in anything, it's the stories behind it,
right? Like the gameplay is one thing,
but I think it's it's the peopleat the end of the day put giving
it their all. And also like there's there's
still the people who like don't respect that.
That's also been a big pet peeveof mine, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love you guys, but I
hate you too. It's a.

(26:57):
It's a real love hate relationship.
But yeah, we, we, we'll get moreinto that.
I'm down to do that for sure. But with this, with this, we saw
some of that emotion. We saw a lot of it because
beyond, you know, the other members of the team, you know,
Punk MENA, that was obviously the main story.
So that first set Punk going up three O over MENA.

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That was crazy and I didn't expect the the character Paley.
That's what I was wondering too,right?
Because, you know, bandits were on that whole journey to Japan
to, to find themselves and unlock their next level of
Street Fighter and they, they were looking good.
And we saw it. They played amazing.
They were, but then MENA Rd. went to the Blanca versus versus
punk and that Blanca got washed I.

(27:43):
Think I feel like he played morethan one character that first
set. He played Blanca and then he
switched to Zengeef in the end. So he played Blanca two games,
switched to Zengeef, and the Zengeef got close and then he
lost. So that's why the next set he
went straight to Zengeef. Yeah, dude, Punk playing like
that, I'm telling you, brother, it's hard for me not to see him
win it. It's either like it's I've told

(28:04):
you, I think it's him or Punk ormotherfucking duel Kevin.
You know what I'm saying? Like that's that's my got an
opinion. But at the end of the day, the
way Punk is playing right now iscrazy. 3O over minute on fire
minute while Punk is cold and a match is personal.
I mean, look, man, I feel like in the past, you know, we've
talked about it or whatever, Like, you know, in the end of

(28:26):
the day, he used to have issues in a clutch where punk was be
the best player you ever got damn soil, But then when it in
an eclipse spot for championships and stuff, he has
a billion championships already,but you get what I'm talking
about. There be certain moments where
he would the. Grand Slams.
Right now. Oh no, that's I think EVO.

(28:47):
It's over with after EVO. He has proven it time and time
again. I think that shit is all the
monkeys off his motherfucking back, bro.
That was personal. He's popping off in everything
bro, and he's still playing. The whole time.
The whole time. You know, that's the thing with
punk is like, I feel like sometimes he kind of needs that
monkey on his back a little bit like that this whole thing like

(29:08):
saying it's personal. It it's funny because the
context here is like it's not personal between punk and MENA.
It's it's like the comparisons that get drawn between them.
And you know, I did the recap. I draw drew a parallel to that
with punk and Idom in 2021, right.
So like, you know, he had the pop off when he won the he won.

(29:29):
I know I think it's similar. I think it's similar because
when I talked to punk about that, I was like, like, you
know, I don't want cap from cup 2019.
And then for that whole 2 years,they're being compared all the
time. And the item was getting a
winning record on him online as well.
And then punk goes and wins CPTNAE or or US East and he pops
off on the definition of clutch,right.
And I I think I think that was inspired by us.

(29:52):
I think I think that was on us because we're like questioning
his clutch factor. And then the Mama punk came in
and everything. But I think that's what that's
part of it, he said. I had no beef with IDOM.
I had because IDOM was like, he talks now.
He was mute back then. Yeah, yes, yes.
If he never said a damn word, hejust played the game and he.
Was gone but the reason it's different is because how can I

(30:13):
put it bro like this meant punk does have an issue with the Dr.
community. It's not like punk had an issue
with the New York community only, but.
That's what I'm saying. No, but he had an issue with
IDOM fanboys. That's what he said.
He said it's it's people would come into a screen chat and say
Idom's better Idom's this. It was the comparisons.
What's different is menicide, though.

(30:35):
You just I don't give a fuck. You are saying my country.
I don't give a damn if you beingspecific.
I don't care about the wording. I don't care That's why he's
making a tweet in his profile picture.
You are saying the Dr. communitypunk is not wrong because there
really are some people in Dr. community that's trolling him
and doing the modes and putting them on a girl face and this

(30:58):
minute girlfriend all this weirdass shit.
There is some of that going on some trolling some but it don't.
How can I put this brother, if you get into arguing my
girlfriend, you while on my girlfriend even if my girl is
wrong, brother, we got to throw these.
That's what's going on right now.
I agree the stakes is I agree the stakes are it's personal

(31:18):
now. I agree.
I agree it got escalated becauseof that, but I'm saying the
origin of it through me trying to do my armchair psychologist
right here. I feel like it's a similar
origin, but now there's a biggergeneralization and there's
there's a much more personal tieto escalate the stakes, right.
That's why IDOM wouldn't have torespond, right?
Like IDOM that was not involved in this, he was literally a

(31:40):
bystander entirely. So I don't fanboys and people
trying to troll punk basically it was.
I would honestly say it's more people trying to just troll
punk. Right, but that fuels him.
I don't spike them. I don't think that when when it
came to Adam that the fans did. I don't think it was the fans.
I think to be fair with what is similar, a punk can bring him to
your community, but I think he looks at it as anybody who has

(32:00):
the fucking audacity to think they can be God like.
You guys audacity think you can be not just God like, but like
people can start talking about you in a go conversation and you
better than me. The nerve.
He going to find something to have a big ass.
Y'all going to have a big ass beef if you going to become if
you especially if you American or you know English speaking not

(32:23):
like punk got an issue is like bias to the Japanese or
something like that, but it's just you can't really beef with
the fucking that's weird, like you can't really beef.
There's a language barrier, cultural barrier.
Culture that's weird, but if youare English speaking
motherfucker from any country and you got them think you about
to be God like like that. Oh, for sure.
I think that's what's going. I think that's what's going on
too. That's why he also he said the

(32:44):
Archimedes, but he also said I'mthe goat.
You see what I'm saying when he popped up the first time, I mean
you messing me like yo, what is punk saying in there?
He was like this my shit, this my shit.
I've heard that term from plentyof black men in this on this
earth in different mediums. When they say this, my shit,
I've seen it in battle rap. Shout out to Sue Surf, Sue Surf

(33:05):
that that's the guy people thinkthis new guy's the guy.
He's battling the new guy. Sue Surf smoke his ass.
The crowd go crazy. He's this my shit verbatim.
That's what he say it's the principle.
That's what punk feel like. This is his house.
This my shit. I'm the GOAT, I'm the best and
y'all stupid as fuck for even Rob TV.
You stupid for hyping up this nigga like that stop hyping up

(33:27):
everybody else. That's how he look at it bro.
But nigga you got nigga. Fuck that though.
That's that's what I'm saying. I don't even think it's not it's
not necessarily the actions of his opponent.
It's it's the hype surrounding them.
That's what that's what drives Punk.
And So what I'm saying is I think that brings out another
level to him. So Evo is the exception.
I would say I don't really therewasn't I don't know the stars

(33:49):
just aligned for Evo for Punk, like he was just in the zone
locked in. There wasn't really like any
back story or anything to it. There was number personal
vendetta. But we've seen in the other big
wins that Punk has, there's usually like he's trying to
fight the type of the other player and be like, no, you
yeah, like you said, you guys are dumb for thinking he'd even
how dare you even compare him tome, right?

(34:11):
And he's almost I feel he alwaystalks past his opponent, right?
He's not talking to meta Rd. he's not talking to Idol.
He's talking passive, like you guys thought this guy was nice
and the men are his opponents are just trying to like hang on
for dear life, you know what I mean?
They're just, they're just trying to be their best, like,
Oh my God, this guy is going crazy right now.
And so, yeah, it's always an interesting dynamic like that.

(34:31):
And I think you could see, like,I didn't expect that at first,
but as soon as he won that for like, I knew there was for sure
like tension there 100%. But to that level, like when he
won that first set and then you could hear the cameras panning
around the crowd and you can hear faintly in the audio.
You can hear that's right. Dr. where you at?
Dr. This is my you can hear it. I was like what the he was

(34:53):
calling Dr. out to the crowd andthen the next set he's popped
after he beats MENA Zenge the close set, which was a six set
and that could have gone either way.
Like that was actually really close.
But you know, punk closed it outand definitely had the edge
there. Then he's running in the crowd
and everything and his body language.
It was like, oh, this is fuckingserious.
This is not like a fun I'm hype.I'm excited to win pop off.

(35:15):
That was like, I will fight somebody right now.
Energy like you could see the adrenaline in his body language.
Like it was like, ha ha, he OK, Don't what's no one like look at
him funny right now. You know what I mean?
Like it's on the verb aggression.
You know what you're saying, daughter.
Wait, did he talk past his opponent and all this popping
off and shit? They sound like the alpha.

(35:36):
That's what it sound like, right?
And that's his nickname, right? I just want to point this out to
people that's watching this right now because I don't have
people come to me in person, talk about our part, our trash
talk that we did and shit like that.
So I don't know people who painttheir words.
Bro, I'm not going to tell you how to be cocky, but I'm going
to tell you don't be a bitch because I promise you one of the
reasons why certain players is Blevel players forever.

(35:58):
I notice, I swear to God. I swear to God.
And yes, I'm qualified to tell you this.
I've only ever went up trajectory wise as far as when I
was competing the street writer.I, I left at my peak.
I, I still be killing these niggas.
I'm telling you, it's because they're too humble.
Look at punk. Punk the God, the alpha, XYZ.
Oh well, I mean, of course he's punk.

(36:20):
He has all this nigga. He caught himself that before he
was goddamn punk. I called myself Hollywood Raw TV
before I was ever going to different countries and doing
all the shit I'm doing right now.
I already caught myself that before.
Y'all would call me that. Kanye West.
You were crazy. Motherfucking fuck Kanye West,
but musically. What he was.

(36:40):
Saying when he was in his bag, that is how none of the great
people who do great, most of thepeople who do great shit,
especially in something competitive have a fucking UN
nigga. I'm telling you, you got to be.
I don't give a fuck if you compete whatever you're doing,
you got to have some type of egoin this shit.
I don't care. I just post a picture I'm
hosting a show. I post a picture from evil

(37:02):
Awards, my suit and shit, my mic, and I put at a microphone
and I said best in the world. Why?
Because I'm better than everybody on earth at my job,
period. Even if they do Grammys, nigga,
whatever, nigga. I'm better than everybody at
what I do, buy a lot. And that's my genuine opinion.
Please take that and internalizeit to help you and what the fuck

(37:22):
you do. Because that's what we're
saying. What punk the guy and mental Rd.
motherfuckers think they're the best.
It's interesting because you know, people like to wax
poetically about like the humblechampion and they like Revere
that so much. But you know, I, I think there's
something much more powerful in a way of having that level of
cockiness because in a way you're putting an open challenge

(37:45):
to yourself to live up to those expectations.
Because, because I think people like they react negative to
negatively to that. Like that is a known thing.
If you are are cocky or arrogantor whatever, people will try to
the nail that stands up, gets hammered down.
You know what I mean? Like people will try to put you
in your place and humble you. That is a thing that drives
crabs in a bucket. And if you find yourself engaged

(38:06):
in that behavior, I would also take it, you know, take a look
at yourself, like if you're sitting on Internet comments and
be like, why is this guy like you need to work on yourself?
I see that shit everywhere. It's all over YouTube, It's all
over Internet comments. People love to try to drag
people down because they don't believe they deserve to be that,
that cocky, whatever domain theyare.
But on the other hand, if you are that person, you are putting

(38:27):
an open challenge to yourself tolive up to those expectations
because you're you're you're you're claiming to be a little
bit bigger than you really are at that moment, right?
I think there's, there's always like a powerful energy to that
because then you're like, Oh shit, I just said all that.
I better, I better make that thereality coming soon.
And if you're constantly settingthose expectations a little bit
greater than your current accomplishments, you always have

(38:47):
to live up to those yourself. And I do think there's like a
little bit of a psychological motivation there.
And even you brought up Magnus Carlsen.
He he has talked a lot about it in his interviews too.
But like the best mental state to be competitively.
And just to clarify for people who don't know, Magnus Carlsen
is the greatest chess player beyond like infinitely beyond
everybody else. Like there's no comparison.
Like it was the perfect recipe. Like whatever genetics,

(39:08):
upbringing, training, whatever, perfect storm, like he's just
above and beyond for now, the greatest chess player of all
time, Team Liquid. And he always talks about what's
that? He's on Team Liquid.
Oh, true. That's great.
We got to talk about that soon. That's crazy.
Yeah, chess is an E sport now. That's wild.
But he he always says that the best place to be is a little bit
like this, the space between optimistic and delusional.

(39:30):
Like that's the best place to bementally.
And I've always talked about that too, where like I've I've
noticed and I think that's what I suffer from personally is like
I I could tap into that like cocky part sometimes, but not
enough. Like I always notice that by
myself as a competitor and the people I was around to are like
getting a little bit more ahead.They talk a little delusional
and I'm like, and I'm like, man,I would love to have that level

(39:52):
of delusion, right? They feel it, right.
So you got to find that that space because sometimes I feel
like people are a little delusional, but it works out.
Like when you start popping off in the scene, I was like, oh,
Rob's delusional, but I think itworked out for you.
We got to breath yeah, I I but you know, I think yeah, that's
fascinating the way you break down that punk and the the the
parallels. You're actually right between

(40:13):
like the odd arm situation and the minute situation.
Then now. So he smokes him three O I'm
like, what the fuck did I just see?
Right. I can't believe what just what
just transpired. Clutch time men are getting 3O
punk popping off when I'm on that.
So I'm like, dude, do punk know he about to have to fight him
again? You know what I mean?
I'm like, do punk know they about to have to run it back?

(40:34):
You don't care. Yeah, he did not give a damn
about that run back, bro. And the way he was playing too
was insane. Like the like his footsies and
whip punishes, like the way he was using cami sweep on a
technical level I was just like,dude, I've never seen whip
punishes like that in this game.I didn't think that was
possible. The way Oh my God I know some

(40:55):
people watch extra trashy and everything bro and like maybe
they might not even have competed in a fighting game.
The reactions that we are seeingfrom punk is not human like I'm
telling you he is with punishingshit that is fast like he quick
but then he also is going to anti air if you neutral jump and

(41:15):
anti air if you jump forward andcheck your drive rush bro I'm
telling you man, like playing punk and five I never felt
nothing like that. It's a weird feeling like when
you play against him options that are options against other
world class best players on in the world are no longer options

(41:36):
when you play against him. I'm not trolling, I'm not Dick
around or anything like that. I'm just saying you got it's a
whole different game. Shit that's not with punishable
consistently is with punishable consistently and eventually it's
like boxing when you watch the best boxer like that, like Hank
Davis or something and you wonder why?
How come his opponent's scared? Why ain't he throwing nothing?
Nigga, 'cause he going to punch the shit out of me if I move my

(42:00):
hands from my chin. You know what I mean bro.
Like he's playing. I will argue that I got to see
if he wins world championship orCup.
If he wins either of those. This is better than 2017 Punk.
Yeah, that's that's what I'm wondering.
So that that's why this is so big, right 'cause like the
storylines out of this like so Punk beats MENA Rd. in the
Zengif match was a great match and MENA Rd. was coming clutch

(42:22):
too, but like he couldn't close it out.
That would have been I I almost kind of wish MENA Rd. won that
set just to keep the action going.
But it was also sick how it ended.
They they threw Punk up early against Louis Mann.
And then you could see they cut the camera to Team Bandits when
that happened. And MENA just like, yeah, you
know what I mean? Because like he's hoping because
the way it works is at the end, after they beat, after Punk beat

(42:44):
MENA, Zingief Banis had to win four straight to win the whole
thing, right? And so they're away, which means
they have to put up their team order.
And then and then Flequist can send up whatever players they
want. So they put up Kaba, Louie Man
and then MENA for Anchor. And so Chris loses the Kaba,
their mounts can come back, OK. And then Punk's like, Nah, fuck
this, I'm going to snuff it out right now.
They put Punk up against Louie Man.
And then MENA was like, man, I was really hoping I could have

(43:05):
at least one last shot at Punk. He looks it up to the sky.
But Louis Mann played God, like almost actually closed it out.
That was amazing. So shouts to Louis, man, he did
his thing. But you know, Punk closes it
out, pops off like crazy, has the crazy post match interview
where you have to intervene and like, dude, you could hear the
adrenaline in his voice. You could hear the shaking.

(43:26):
Like I I've been there, but likeI felt that feeling a couple
times in my life. Like I know how that feels like
where? You have so much adrenaline, you
don't even. Do with it I.
See. I see it on camera.
I mean, it happens, man. Like and like it was, it's a
little scary, you know what I mean?
Like you don't know what's goingto happen.
Like he was going through some crazy emotions in that moment.
And then he has the the tweet calling out Dr. and then MENA

(43:48):
Rd. makes his profile picture. The Punk tweet were Punk calls
out Dr. Where you at? It came full circle because it
was personal for Punk for a while and now it's personal for
MENA. So I think it came full circle.
This is where the IDOM 1 didn't go.
For IDOM it was never personal. For Meta Rd. it is.
I'm at it later for y'all too. It is to the beef y'all also

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seen. For some reason, right before
Street Fighter League US finals,Punk randomly throws a jab at
Chris T puts a tweet out talkingabout crack tea.
Now this is a joke that Punk made from like years ago now,
but he randomly brings it up again right before Superior
League and y'all might not know Chris T is Bandits coach.

(44:33):
Christie's at Superior League and everything like that's their
coach. Like they here in Japan with
them and all that. She had a big part of their
success. So even that it's like that's a
random ass tweet to make out of nowhere and it's unofficial.
It's like it's not like punk confirmed this or men or anybody
like that, but he made that right before US finals, which
seemed like a jab in itself. So they they them boys going at

(44:55):
it right now and this is peak. I feel like right now.
This is this is shaping up to beone of the one of the better
cups, bro, and of course me and all that shit.
If we could you imagine a universe Not to get into our
fanfic bro, but God damn it I'm a universe where we get punk
versus a minute in a $900,000 money back.
That's oh. My God, that's AI.

(45:18):
Wouldn't bet on that. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't.
Know, I don't know The thing is like we have steaks or in the
cap and cup and I think also this cap and cup is just better
just because they had so many more offline qualifiers.
So the level of play, this is like the first cap and cup in a
while where I'm looking at it and I'm like, all right, this
feels a little bit like 2019 level Captain Cup, You know what
I mean? I think the last Captain Cup for

(45:39):
Street Fighter Five also was pretty good, but I don't think
the I don't know, I just didn't like the storylines were strong,
but it didn't really have the same.
I feel like I don't really know what to.
Put that where is this year on for?
Yeah, it's a weird. It's weird to explain, but I
know what you're talking about, right?
There's more energy going into this one.
Yeah. So we have at least some some

(46:02):
personal stakes with the punk men Rd. thing and then just a
level of play. But you know, you can't dude.
Like anyone could still win or lose even after all this.
No, bro, so we had the the interview, the the punk, the the
punk interview, right? He going crazy and everything.
Your breakdown of that was phenomenal, by the way.
I was like, oh, look at Brian knowing some motherfucking

(46:24):
psychology, some motherfucking hosting and shit like that.
What the fucking nigga Brian to talk about?
I'm like that, that's a perfect goddamn breakdown.
But we need the punk versus MENA.
We we need to, we need to go down.
I want to see it at blink respawn or something.
I I need it like at this point. Did you see bro?

(46:44):
He was going back and forth withblink on my fucking Twitter, the
blink account, right? And he literally is like, they
like, yeah, come to blink respawn or something.
And then Punk quote tweeted and it's like, I mean, well just
make sure you got the appearancefee for the king to slay
everyone on the island. What?

(47:07):
Bro listen, you got more balls than me brother.
You got bigger balls than me. Champion fucking.
That would be crazy to say. Then roll up to Dr. that that's
that would be. I had to put up a disclaimer.
I had to put up a disclaimer. I put up a He'll be all right.
He's got to put up a disclaimer.Hey, this is all.
Let's have armed security, you know what I'm saying?

(47:28):
That's it, That's it. That's crazy.
That's it. Because you imagine the
community, they're dope as fuck.I love it down there.
They're they're amazing, they'resuper proud and and and that's
the thing. I think it just it it culminate
to the point where I think punk generalized a bit too much in my
opinion. You know, he he's its own man.
He can do whatever he wants. I think he he took the trolls a
bit to heart. There's definitely some crazy

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Dr. trolls out there who they goa little ham for sure.
They exist. I think it's implied that he's
only talking about him. I, I, I, I don't think he felt
like that about the whole Dr. community.
I think it's implied that he won't talk about her like just
the just the trolls, but he is officially at war with all of
them in the end of the day. Like you said Dr. Community.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like he's talking crazy.

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You need a villain, bro, You need a villain.
I think this helps. That's true.
Not personally, I think I'm a I'm not a believer in all
publicity is good publicity likebut I think this is good for the
Dr. scenes, good for punk. I think it's good for everybody.
Like especially if we get the match like Dr. care don't look
bad. People care.
So now blink respawn was alreadyfired as hell last year.

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It was fired a year before. That if punk shows up if.
Punk show up. Oh my God.
Yeah, I don't know if he will, but if he does, that would be
crazy. Yeah, but for Capcom Cup itself,
though, I mean, do you think we'll even get it?
Like, I don't know. The thing about this Capcom Cup
is the level of play is so high.It's in Japan.

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Yeah, it's not. It's not easy to.
It's not easy to call. It's not.
Easy to call. It's not easy to call, but what
I would I be surprised, no, because that that's literally my
top two people to win Capcom Cup.
So that means by definition I got them having a high chance of
running. So so was MENA Rd. last year,
right? It's just so hard to call.

(49:16):
Yeah, right. Look, you know difference
minimum won Street Fighter league last time.
He had two things to to focus on.
He lost your brother. League That's that's punk now.
Now he now he focused on just what's.
The there's so many parallels here because think about it last
season MENA already got second in evo.
He won Street Fighter league worlds and then he won Eva
Japan, which is an absurd seasonone season 2 Punk won Evo Street

(49:40):
Fighter league US. He is.
Punk is so close. I obviously I think it's fair to
say winning Street Fighter League worlds from this position
is way easier than winning Captain Cup.
Way easier. Infinitely easier.
I feel like Punk might just smoke Street Fighter League
worlds. I mean, obviously the team
format requires the other team members to step up, but.
Shit boy, them other teams crazylisten this the hardest one

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because they got. It is the hardest.
One Europe finally has a God bless the the former Europe
teams but respectfully y'all gety'all ass beat back in the day
this team now the birds and fucking.
Unfair. And fucking phenom and all that
bro. Stop NIP and fucking the bird
bro. That's not fair, that's crazy.
And then good a squad is back and then you got fly quest.

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I mean, the best team on paper might be Europe this year.
I don't know if you can call that.
On paper, hold on who? For who?
Who? Who did that squad got?
Kawano, Pugara, Gachi Kun and I always forget the last.
It's it's it's mochi. I always forget this.

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There's the two Dolphin players.It's our Tori Meshi.
I think it's Mochi, yeah. Hey, I got OK shit I don't know.
And then like Fly Quest, they all playing good.
But then you got you got fuckingpunk, like right bro?
People don't. Obviously, punk is at the next
level. When you have somebody that's a
fucking Titan, a fucking attack on Titan, bad ass motherfucker

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sitting in anchor, you don't know what those me and me and
Shawn was talking about that shit X.
But like bro, the 10 points thatwhatever players get before him
just feels like a extra fucking body blow softening y'all up
because it's like, you know, this dude behind you probably is
about to smoke whoever he got toplay.
So Flockquist has the best anchor A lot of everybody in

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Street Fighter League Worlds, and one player can win the whole
tournament, to be fair, Like oneplayer.
The way the format is, one person can get all the points.
I believe I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I think, I think there's a
few situations where they can't,but I I think there are also
situations where they can theoretically carry the whole.
Thing but I don't think it will need to, though.
I don't think it would. I expect Sean and everybody to

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go fucking crazy too. So, you know, if we win this,
everybody shut the fuck up. So US is the best in the world.
We won last year. If we win this year, shut up,
we're the best. Well, the average level is still
higher. We're the best.
No, no, no. The average?
Level is still higher. And they be us, no?
If they did a round Robin with every team versus every team,

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they would have more points. And if every tournament ever
that anybody ever won in singleswas a round Robin, then a
different person might have won.But that's not how we do this
shit in FGC. Baby.
Who the best? That's not what you said.
You said who's the best championthen?
Yeah, I agree. We the best.
If we win this now, we might notI I like our chances.
I like Sean. I like motherfucking Chris CCH.

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He has something to prove. I like psycho.
And and team EU wins. Is EU the best?
No, because they didn't win back-to-back.
I'm just saying, you know that there's a difference between the
top team winning the championship and and the overall
hardest league to qualify out. Of I didn't say that is the
hardest league to I didn't say that hard to see the qualified.
He said best. This one fucking had to be very.

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Very loaded term best. They got to beat Mina.
They got to beat Mina in them toget out.
Are you kidding me? You got to be who?
Who better than Mina? In other leagues?
Name. Name me Name, name.
Name a human that's human. Name a human in the other
leagues that you say is better than minority.
Go ahead and say. I I'm just going to go down.

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I'm going to go down his tournament results and pick
every No. No Say who's.
Better whoever, whoever beats over the last tournament, Well,
whoever wins is better, right? Based on your own definition.
So I'm going to go, I'm going togo with Fudo, like whoever won,
right? Whoa, Mina.
Whoa. Oh, let me call.
Whoever won, I was. Going to call his ass right now.
That's not my logic. I'm I'm just using yours right

(53:42):
now. I'm just using.
Yours as winning two seasons in a row like men are having two
cap home cups. That's winning two Street
Fighter leagues in a row. When Japan won Street Fighter
league back-to-back, it was Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, understandably
so. Now let us get our credit.
We if we win back-to-back and this time it will be US winning
the hardest win of all. Yeah, you got a team.

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This will be two years in a row and this is the hardest Street
Fighter league easily. This would be the hardest.
I guess. Going to be the hardest one.
For sure, and fucking you got tobe the.
Birds mercenaries for hires are too fucked up man the it's crazy
how the birds are. Not on team reject bro I'm sure.
They're going to Japan. I swear they This is the other

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thing I wanted to talk about too.
Like so this Capcom cup, it's inJapan, which is it's a long
time. Do like I'm a little I think
it's awesome. It's Japan.
I'm about to figure out how to watch it live.
That's my that's my only concern, selfishly, right.
You know, it's it's our turn to let the other side of the world
get to to watch Capcom cup live.And obviously Japan is the home
of Street Fighter, so it's fitting for it to be in Japan.

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But but Street Fighter league isactually the final day of this,
right? They're making they're trying to
position Street Fighter League to be the biggest, which I
personally think is fucking dumb.
I I I don't care anywhere near as much about Street Fighter
League as the $1,000,000 fuckingtournament Capcom Cup.
That is the point of Capcom Cup.I'm sorry, but I see what

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they're trying to do. That's how not I'm not saying
they'll succeed or not, but that's how it starts.
To be fair, at first you don't give a fuck, so you but ask what
you got to build it up. When I posted my first goddamn
music reaction video, ain't nobody probably give a fuck, but
I had to start and like, hey, weonly know you provide games.
You got to. You got to start at some point.
Yeah, but you didn't post your music reaction video on a

(55:30):
channel with 10 million subscribers.
And you get what I'm saying? They're trying.
It's it's, it's, it's not that it's building something up in
parallel. It's it's replacing something
that is the draw. So that's a little different.
They're they're trying to shoehorn it.
Street Fighter League this gonnasound this might sound
blasphemous. I think Street Fighter League is
a better product than singles, and I love singles, but I think

(55:54):
for entertainment value, for the, for a, for the average
person, for the average person, the emotion.
Would disagree. This is this is where I'm coming
from, bro. For me personally, I'm going to
watch a single tournament 'causeI'm hardcore FGC like that's my
I'm, I'm gonna love that shit. I I don't need the but there is

(56:15):
no interviews, there is no like that.
That emotion is different. There is no me seeing who this
dude is as a person, me following his whole journey XYZ.
I'm seeing every single match ison camera.
The emotion is different and I think the.
Potential is there. I get the potential, but.
Yeah, that's my point. It's not hitting, I'm sorry.

(56:38):
The drama, I think. I think there's more maybe on a
baseline you at least have a more minimum guaranteed
storyline through with with Street Fighter League at minimum
because there there can be some singles tournaments where like
it's it's not ceremonious and like someone who just washes the
tournament and like it doesn't really speak to anyone even.

(56:58):
If it's a close the peak the. Peak of a singles tournament.
I'm sorry. It blows on average St. fatal
League out of the water. If you have a the perfect Evo,
the perfect Capital Cup, I'm telling you it blows St.
Fatal League out of the. Water.
Because you know what I'm going to say?
Why? Why?
As the motherfucker who does theinterviews, do you know the only
place where I keep seeing players cry consistently?

(57:21):
They cry. I've been around these people
for years of my life at this point, and the only place I see
them drop fucking tears on camera is when I'm interviewing
them at Street Fighter League specifically.
Not Kuntae, not this, not that. Because the emotion is higher as
people, you know, I played the two seasons of that shit.
I dropped tears, but I dropped tears for singles for number 2.

(57:42):
But my. People one evo, they cried.
What do you know? But these people are not crying
from winning. It's not tears of fucking
jewelry nigga. They cry from I'm letting my
team down. I swear to God.
I'm telling you I can say names that from all I play I let my
team down XYZ. The emotion is totally
different. Even Mina taking his jersey off,

(58:02):
throwing it. Go home dude.
That is because of the emotion of Street Fighter League.
Ask anybody, ask any of these players to play right now.
I understand the potential. They will tell.
You. It hasn't been.
It hasn't. I'm just.
Saying emotionally, all I'm saying is emotionally,
factually, factually, every player is going to tell you that

(58:23):
emotionally Street Fighter League is a lot harder than a
single tournament. Yes, I agree it's way.
Harder, but I just the. Product has way deeper.
Hit there. Are they, well, you know, are
they make it? I think need to make it live.
I think need to make it live. It needs to be live.
I think it has potential. I agree.
I agree. Team.
And I think in general, that's why team sports are more popular

(58:45):
than single sports. I, I, I understand, but what I'm
saying is it's still a singles game at the end of the day.
So they have to get creative with the format to achieve that.
So what I'm saying is fighting games are not inherently A-Team
game at all. So they have to manage the
format and the production. There's a lot more moving parts
that have to really fall into place to execute that, to
achieve that for the audience. So I think that's really hard to

(59:07):
do. They sold out.
Listen, you gotta think. Street Fighter League in Japan,
it's it's fucking football, but and that's not because they got
a fucking better Street Fighter league or no dumb shit like that
motherfucker. It's just because it, it's
Street Fighter in general is bigger in Japan.
But with that being the case, even here, shit is changing
brother. Like we didn't even do it live

(59:29):
and of course we did the US finals live, the 1st US finals.
It's sold out immediately. People came like I don't think
people think about and that's a whole other stream.
We could do or something bro, but like this this shit is
changing like the the business like this shit is getting
bigger. Like people sold out tickets not
to play in a tournament as well not to God damn go play casuals

(59:51):
just to go and be entertained and enjoy a show and walk street
by the league sold out the venueexpeditiously like.
Yeah, but how big was, how big was that venue?
I'm just saying we do that with singles tournaments.
We sell at venues. I agree it's going to grow.
But but I'm saying as far as thesingles tournaments, you saying
that that's not a singles tournament is a tournament and
it's an open bracket tournament though, no.

(01:00:13):
No, no, but people that tournaments, they sell out with
spectator badges now they but that's a big thing for a long
time. Yeah, even like Kumite, for
example, was going to sell out and shit like that.
Yeah, no, I agree. But I'm just saying that shows
that Street Fighter League does have interest too.
Bro, I meet, I meet hell of people in the world, like just
anywhere in the world. It has interest.
Tell me what I'm saying is Street Fighter League.
It hasn't. I agree, but the viewers, the

(01:00:36):
viewership is lower. Anything western, the viewership
is objectively lower for Street Fighter League.
I'm sorry, I think it's a good front, but it's objectively way
less popular right now than Evo,than CEO, than whatever.
Any frosty Fausting's that gets more live viewership than Street
Fighter League? It just does well, It's not
live. It just does well.
It's not live. Even Street Fighter League, the

(01:00:56):
playoffs, they had like 10K viewers, which is good.
Yeah, it's really just good. But like you get more, you get
more, you get more for the open bracket majors.
Oh yeah, but I mean it. Still hasn't in the West, it
still hasn't reached that. Peak in well, in business,
that's what they call, you know,of course that's what they call
a pivot brother. Like so I I agree that one is
bigger right now, but something being bigger right now does not

(01:01:17):
mean that they shouldn't, you know what I mean?
Like. Until they solve the production
issues it will never be as big as I Like I said, I think the
problem is I agree with all the emotional stakes until they
solve the production issues. Brother the show went on for 9
hours. The problem with scriptedly
right now is to challenge. Tournament hosting the show and
the production issues are through the roof in every

(01:01:38):
country. That's the E sports ones.
You keep hosting the E sports ones.
I think that's the big problem. I agree.
OK, you have to bring up a good point though.
But I think the big problem witha lot of these is like the, the,
as we're scaling up the, the, the rates of entertainment per
unit of time has reduced becausewe keep having issues with like
getting the matches going. So I think that's been an
overall big problem with the scene.

(01:01:59):
And I think Street Fighter League is like the pinnacle of
that because it requires a lot more moving parts.
So if they can solve that, I think it has potential.
But the problem is we get so little matches per unit of time,
like that is a big part. So I think OG more grassroots
open bracket tournaments, they tend to kind of hit that pace a
bit better. And I think that keeps people
much more engaged for a long period of time.

(01:02:20):
And but I agree with you, I think like street for league, a
team tournaments in general havea minimum level of stakes and
emotional involvement. Whereas like an open bracket,
some tournaments could end up just being awash and like people
don't care. That can't happen at the.
Grassroots tournament too bro. When the setup is laggy as fuck,
we just play. Let's be let me be very fucking

(01:02:40):
clear, nigga, I went to every grassroots tournament on planet
earth and before I even hosted and I played in the bitches
seriously. And if it was laggy, I just had
to play on that shit and all of us would be you and all of us
would be like man, the said the the stream set up laggy, but we
just play in Street Fighter league and big productions.
They they the stakes higher. That's not the fucking

(01:03:02):
production team. The players just are different.
The grassroots is not doing better.
They if anything, the players just sits there and says hey no,
I'm not playing on this. They need to fix this.
In a two days they also have more negotiating power and
grassroots. Just get DQ D.
You just yeah, if you don't playthen get the fuck off the set
up. So no is not doing better.

(01:03:23):
No, sorry. No they're not.
What do you mean grass? I'm saying.
No, I'm saying it's more. For the viewer.
For the viewer. But for the player that is for.
The viewer, yes. OK, well tell Punkin them to
play on the laggy set up then. Well, we can see where it
matches. I mean, what I'm saying is
production has a lot to grow. Listen, you don't see you don't
see this shit with other use more stuff.
I'm saying we're we're still going through growing pains.

(01:03:44):
But yeah, I think until St. partly can solve that problem
and also be live. And I think that's why Japan is
so big because I do think what you're talking about does get
people involved. They care about that.
I'm not disagreeing with that atall.
I'm saying for me personally though, I still much more care
about, I still much more care about singles.
Well, I think you. I think that if ever you will be
that way because you are like onsome fighting game nerd shit

(01:04:05):
like me. So you never.
Brother, I've had so many peoplewatch random evos.
I've seen so many people watch random evos.
I have people who, like Evo, hascrossed that threshold with.
People tuned into the drama without knowing about it and all
this shit. Bro no, I'm telling you from my
friend meeting people and shit, hell no.
It's a fucking team tournament brother.

(01:04:27):
That's a whole different and business.
You know, we talk about the business also.
Better for business? Team has a esports.
Team better for business? What the fuck are you even doing
the best in a single tournament?Like what are you even doing
unless it's ENUC and shit what is the logic?
Street Fighter league guarantee this is your team and people get
to be fans of teams. Like no matter, we can switch

(01:04:50):
players out and you still can bea.
But I don't know if that works. That's been that's been so we're
like Street Fighter is like 20 years behind in the E sports
scene. So they've already done this
with other games, right. They've had, you know, C9,
whatever CLG these have been org, but they've already seen
that issue where like people do not care about the teams with
with rosters that are rotating out.

(01:05:12):
That's been an issue that has already existed for League
tournaments, for whatever you take, Valorant, whatever,
there's been a bit of a problem.There's some people who are fans
of the orgs, who stick with the orgs, but there's also been a
lot of people who are just fans of the players.
I think we've seen in those other E sports scenes where like
at the end of the day, the individual does have more pool
than the orgs. That's true.
That's been a problem that they're trying to solve, but

(01:05:32):
it's closer than. Us, they got a higher fit
percentage of team fans than we have at least.
Yeah, of course, because it's new for us.
But I just think that's, that's what I'm saying.
I still feel like fighting gamesI think are inherently limited
in that sense where like it'll never be a perfect fit.
I don't think it'll ever be a perfect fit because just the way
the game. I already got it.
I think. I think of course, like you
said, production wise, as far asI mean, it's not even production

(01:05:55):
not I don't know. I don't want to say shit
publicly. So whatever.
I just let people think they think on that part but
motherfuckers think production team is making the game lag and
they not knowing what the fuck they doing like ready.
No, it's not that. It's just, it's just there's a
shit ton of moving parts. No, it's not that, but it's just
like. It's just it's built in a
certain way that if in computers, if I'm plugging shit
and unplugging it all the time and you know what I mean, your

(01:06:15):
computer go do some weird ass shit being on for but.
Say theoretically there's infinite budget, infinite
people, they could have multiplesetups.
They could have, you know what Imean?
Like understand, like pretend tobe the consumer at the end of
the day who doesn't have any. Like we have ties in the
industry and we know people, whatever, pretend to be a random
person watching it. You're watching it.
I want to see the teams play. I want to see the action.
OK, there's down. Time, but but there's.
Down time I'm losing interest. So I'm just saying as a.

(01:06:37):
Human who doesn't care they change the channel so.
Well, let them. OK, well let's let them at the
single tournament that we are championing championing right
now they are playing on bad setups and and every every
tournament I'm seeing big bird punk, I'm seeing all of my
homies tweeting out that the shit was laggy as fuck.

(01:07:00):
After they and. They just play, but we get to
just keep see the scene, the match, and we see nigga drop 50
combos, see India Walker drop a fucking B&B combo, but he just
played and he just lose. You're not making a counterpoint
to me. What I'm saying is production on
every side in terms of like standardizing tournament setups
has been a fucking joke. I think E, you know what I

(01:07:20):
think? I think E sports for for FGC has
been a joke forever. So you're not I?
Don't I agree with you? I think it's all I know.
I think it's. I think the.
Game might have to be optimized better or some shit for.
No, I, I think, I think our E sports scene has been a joke for
a very long time. I, I think we've been doing it.
We've been doing it for so long and we still have these.

(01:07:42):
We don't have standardized setuprules.
We don't have any kind of collaboration across different T
OS. What, what is the default
tournament monitor plus the default settings on what setup,
what hardware? What is the handbook?
What is the way we can validate the setups?
What is who is the intermediate between the players and the and
the production of the T OS to ensure the setup meet some kind
of gold standard so that we knowit's as standard tournament

(01:08:04):
play? If I wanted to prep for a
tournament right now, how can I replicate that at home?
Well for one what you can literally get the IT even if you
practice on the exact same setupthat they going to have, it
still might not be the same because of lag and.
Shit, there's ways. There's ways to do no, there's
ways they can do they they can get they can.

(01:08:25):
There's ways to capture the image, get the exact they can
containerize it. There's ways to do this to
replicate a set, There's ways todo that, but.
Yeah. But I think, like I said, I
think that you are more. I think you're Speaking of great
hyperbole to say that our E sports is a joke.
We didn't dedicate our life to this shit, bro.
Like, nigga, this ain't no goddamn joke.

(01:08:45):
We got damn you. You know how many hours you
didn't put into this shit? Like the blood, sweat and tears
we put into this shit? We didn't.
I thought about it like doing damn like my best friends in
this world is from fucking the FGC I get.
What you're saying this? Shit ain't no motherfucking joke
and people behind and I know thepeople business wise behind the
scenes that are doing this shit and they not motherfucking
playing and joking either. Niggas is really trying to put

(01:09:07):
in a whole lot of my fucking work.
I ain't saying shit, it's perfect yet but shit is way
better right now. Bro.
You can't tell me this shit is ajoke when this like shit has
progressed so much from even when we came into this shit
esports wise to right now. I definitely just saw a
motherfucker win $1,000,000 and disappear from playing.

(01:09:28):
Another joke. Another joke like I don't know
what you ought to tell. Me.
Listen, what I'm saying is how? Long we've been doing this, I've
been saying there has been no very little progress in terms of
the playing conditions for the players.
And so maybe I will always speakhyper and and hyperbole because
I will always be rooting or or pushing for the side of the

(01:09:52):
players always. And I will.
Me too. And you.
You saying that but then you saying that the grass roots is
better when they gotta play in the laggy ass setup and they
just fucking. Do it and you no, it's better
for the viewers. It's better for the viewers.
When when they play on bad setups honestly right, yes.
No, I'm not. OK.
Well, you've had a side. I'm not saying when they play on
bad setup. I'm saying it's better when the
rate of matches is higher. It's better for the viewers.

(01:10:13):
That's. The only way that that ever
happens right now with the rate of matches higher is when they
play on bad setup. That's a fact.
That's what happens 9 times out of 10.
Frequent. I wouldn't say it's every time,
but it is. I I don't disagree it's
frequent. Over half.
Over half. OK, well it's at least it might
be. But I, I agree, I agree that
does contribute to it for sure. I agree that part of the

(01:10:35):
downtime for Street Fighter League is because they they
stopped the because what happened at Street Fighter
League was the monitors was going out, right?
So they had to replace the they had to replace one of the
setups. They had its old PC set up and
they had to go to one PC, right.They had to swap everything out.
That caused like 20 minutes of downtime like there's there's
issues like and I'm just saying hopefully one day we can iron it
out, but it's been a long time. Yes, it's been a long time I'm.

(01:10:57):
Just saying it's but it's not a but our E sports shit is not a
joke. I'll take that seriously because
it's like when I it's like when I play, I speak Street Fighter
hyperbole there. I didn't like, but when people
would be like, oh, Street Fighter 5 is the worst shit
ever. Like bro, shut the fuck up,
nigga. Like don't, don't we not about
to sit up here and make our product look bad for anybody

(01:11:18):
that might be watching for fans watching because they look up to
my fucking Brian F Rob TVXYZ. They fuck with us and they're
like, oh, if they if they think this shit all trash, yeah, this
shit is trash. Like, no, this shit ain't trash.
It's fire. We got the coldest players in
the world. We had the coldest talent in
this bitch Brian F the best consecrator nigga, our shit
fire. But it do need to get better
though. And do need to get better
though, don't get me wrong. Sure, I can agree with that.

(01:11:38):
I can agree with that would. You agree that it has improved,
even if not as fast as you want.This is better than what it
fucking used to be in fucking 20/18/2017. 20 I would say some
parts are better, but I I still think E sports wise, I think I I
all I nothing has progressed in terms of me in terms of depends

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on the events. I would say that in general,
there's it's been very stagnant in terms of the viewing viewing
experience, very stagnant. Rainbow colder than anything you
about to bring up from those years.
Go ahead. Red Bull Kumite was Red Bull
Kumite was doing it back then aswell.
I'm talking about Red Bull, Kumite, New York.
That's the coldest one of all time.

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Respect. Yes, yes.
And that's it. That's that's the modern days
worship. That shit was crazy brother.
I wouldn't fucking. Say, OK, but I I think the
problem is it's also been reallyconsolidated because like E
sports World Cup looks great, but like, you know, that's that
Saudi, that Saudi money doing this whole thing.
And then there's there's Red Bull Kumite.
That that's helped the players tremendous.

(01:12:41):
Like that's helped. Her but but what I'm what I'm
getting at is our general CPT stuff.
It's no. You know the weird.
Are grassroots tournaments depends?
I I think CEO and comma breaker are killing it.
COVID fucked them over bro. Though to be fair, COVID fucked
them over. Sure.
But I'm, I'm more talking about the CPT viewing experience has

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been very stagnant, very stagnant.
And in fact it regressed becauseeverything went online.
So I think it, I don't think it's gotten better.
I think it's gotten worse. You know The funny thing you
said that you were looking out for the players.
But if you think about it thoughas a player shit was a lot
rougher with when it with that old shit where you have to
travel to 50,000 tournaments that if we talking as adults as

(01:13:27):
grown ass men them tournaments you pay. 2. $1000 per
tournament. I guess if I were to clarify
that, I would say I look out forthe players a lot, but I also
look out for the audience more. I think the audience is the
number one thing because withoutthe audience, none of this
matters. So I actually, I actually, I
care more about that. At the end of the day, I'd
rather, I'd rather the players be a little stressed, to be

(01:13:47):
honest, if it means that the audience it's a better product.
But there are there are things that I I air on the side of the
players. I don't think that other I agree
with you. I get what you're saying on
that. I just think like that shit was
hyped as fuck, like the our old offline when we travelled all
the tournament, that shit was hyped and it was a tournament
every fucking weekend. Like that shit was lit, but it
was very unsustainable. It was a pay to no, none of

(01:14:10):
that. None of that could have lasted.
That was all funny money at the end of the day, which is the
problem with all of this, I think.
I think overall, though, the E sports scene has gotten to a bit
more of a healthier place, like it's more sustainable.
I. Think now more stable, more.
They're building stuff that can be consistent.
Yes, I agree with that. I agree with that.
And I also agree with Street forthe League being that because
like the business side of thingswith Street for the League now

(01:14:30):
being like the end thing in Japan and St. for the League
being huge in Japan, I really dofeel like the business is
completely going to move to Japan soon.
I I really foresee a world wherethe birds are in Japan, where
like Menardee moves to Japan. I I think that's where it's all
going. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe they're going to catch up with Street for the League, US
and EU, but I feel like Japan isreally starting to become the

(01:14:54):
place to to be for Street Fighter.
I mean, in the end of the day, Imean like in Japan is the that's
the the what they call it Brian Fuck, I can't think of it.
But like basically the the, the,the, the nucleus of all of this
shit in the end of the day. And it's it's just way bigger
over there. Like Louis man was like bro,
he's like, bro, I'm in mother fucking public and ransom some

(01:15:15):
God damn fans. He said he was surprised Louis
man, not even as big as like Mina and people like that and
everything. Like I know you was meeting hell
of fans over there. I never been over to Japan, but
it might be something where competition becomes a good
thing. If these mother fuckers are
going over to Japan, then the other scenes might be like, all
right, all right, all right. We need to got damn start

(01:15:38):
helping out more in making a better ecosystem for these
players in Europe and and in North America and shit like that
because you can't lose all of our best players to Japan.
Well, how though? Because is Japan?
The thing about St. for the League of Japan is that those
players, I, I believe most of them are salaried or all of
them. I don't, I can't say for sure.
What I understand is that you know, the street for the league

(01:16:01):
Japan, it's filmed live. They do it online, so they film
a full season, which is over multiple months.
It's it's like an actual league where you play over a season,
whereas like street for the US, you know, it's prerecorded over
2 weeks and St. for the EU is filmed live for two weeks.
Like the in the middle Japan, you have steady employment and
they're they're on E sports teams and they're paid like a

(01:16:21):
contract at least to to be professional players for that
time, which means guaranteed income regardless of
performance. Obviously if you perform bad,
you might lose your contract to the end of the season or
whatever, so it's not like forever, but like at least for
like a couple of months you got income which is beyond what
anything else any other player gets.
And I think like Punk MENA, someof these players, like a lot of

(01:16:43):
these guys like provide, all I'll say is I feel like they
provide tremendous value to the scene overall.
And it affects, it affects Japan, it affects Europe, it
affects everywhere else. Like in the end of the day,
take, take out, remove all of these players, remove the whole

(01:17:03):
US scene, for example, and see what the fuck happened.
Remove the whole European scene and see what the fuck happened.
We need everybody. We need everybody, right?
And especially some of these guys we got over here are
fucking Titans. You're not going to point me to
to the person that's moving the needle more than punk.
You're not going to point me to the person that's moving the
needle more than the RDI don't care where they live at.
So with that being the case, I believe that they should be

(01:17:25):
compensated. You know, I'll go to the
details, but I think they shouldbe compensated just as much as
anybody else, point blank. Well, you know, The thing is
it's hard for me to know that because in Japan, the percentage
of the population and the viewership they get on like
their content and everything, it's the numbers are ridiculous.
Like I've been looking at some of the other top players like
like, you know, Taquito, obviously like the number one,

(01:17:47):
that's like Kowan and other people.
Then you keep going down the list.
A lot of these players that we don't even think about that much
in the US are getting huge amount of viewership in Japan.
And obviously that's a smaller total addressable market if
you're talking about Japan versus the world.
But they capture such a higher percentage of the population.
Cause like in the West, we're still getting less viewership

(01:18:07):
for all our stuff in Japan. And we have like what, 100 times
as many, I don't even 20 times as many people in the US.
Like there's so many more peoplein the US overall than Japan.
But but yeah, but they're, they're just getting so much
more attention. Like it's just, it's captured
the culture in Japan so much more.
So there's so much more potential, way more this like if
you look at I've been looking atthe the viewership for like

(01:18:29):
their YouTube videos for their streams and stuff, they just get
so many more views on everything.
Tokido's a fucking celebrity. His vlogs are doing 100K per
video daily. You know what I mean?
Like he's getting mad viewershipon his YouTube.
He's eating good, all that. Yeah, it's like this in general,
the culture. K per view per video for fucking
vlogs. He's been vlogging it up.

(01:18:52):
Tokido. He has 140K sub.
Let's see, he's got 80K80K75KA117KA115K35KA144KA135K.
Yeah, Tokyo's channel is cooking.
No, not every video. 323,006 days ago.

(01:19:12):
It's crazy, I see that. One.
Yeah, so. 40K30K they're all. So not everyone.
But that's what I'm saying. I don't think, yeah, I don't
think Tokido's bigger than punk.I don't think I don't think
these guys are bigger than punk.But they're addressing, they're
hitting the market in a in a different way.
And I don't know, punk is probably punk's the exception,

(01:19:33):
of course. But like, but what I'm saying is
as you go down the list in Japanin terms of like, you know,
their biggest players, you stilldon't fall off that fast and you
fall off very fast in the West. So yeah, that's what I'm
wondering. Like there's so much more
potential in the West, but I don't know if it's worth is it,
is it going to be forever that people keep investing in that
the same or do they does does everything just end up being in

(01:19:56):
Japan? I I'm almost wondering if we're
heading in that direction. Bro Nah, I don't think so
whatsoever bro. Like OK bro how can I, how can I
put this? Fuck I gotta be so delicate the
way I speak on it. But like all I'm say is bro.
Usually certain storylines and energy and whatnot behind
tournaments and virality and shit like that usually comes

(01:20:19):
from western players. There's certain types of shit
that you only get with Western players.
There's certain type of you know, OK, OK, OK, OK.
But that speaks to the West. What what I actually just want
to be clear before you go forward.
We are both in bubbles. I want to be very clear.
This 323,000 View video of Saco Costa Lashard Taquito doing some

(01:20:41):
kind of command speed challenge.This is not on my feed.
This is not on any Did you know about this?
It's not on any of our social feeds.
This is in the Japan. You have to go to the you have
to be speaking Japanese to be algorithmically recommended
these kind of things or seek it out manually.
I did I keep I randomly open up these guys's Youtubes.
It never gets recommended to me.I watch their videos, but I have

(01:21:01):
to go type it in and look it up just to keep tabs on what's
going on right. So what I'm saying is this stuff
pops off in the West with Western players, but is it
popping off in Japan the same way?
And, and the things that are popping off in Japan, which
actually get more raw viewers aren't popping off to the West.
So what I'm saying is we're bothin separate bubbles and I think
the bubble in Japan is bigger. That's that's what I think.

(01:21:23):
And I don't know how much cross pollination is happening.
Well, it depends on which we have a cross pollination.
How can I put this? I think you know, I if I go to
Japan, bro, I'm taking pictures on autographs point blank
period. Like I know that so but I don't
think that these people who are about to come get pictures with
me and ask for autograph are also watching my motherfucking

(01:21:45):
music reaction video where I'm speaking English or fucking want
to watch me stream. Even if I was streamer Street
Fighter going to speak English. But you get what I'm saying.
But they are fans. But now they literally are going
to see punk and won a picture and this at the third, but they
might not be watching his motherfucking vlog keep post on
YouTube, but they're super fans of punk.

(01:22:07):
So that is still cross pollination because they are
looking at you at that point where they literally are like Oh
my God, Brian S La La I love youman XYZ but they're not my
watching fucking. Tricks just OK, just to be
clear, you get my the only not asingle Japanese person came up
and said that to me. So first of all, speaking
Japanese, I just want to be clear.
The only people talk to me were like random dudes, white dudes

(01:22:28):
from Seattle, like going on a culinary.
Like I met some dude from Seattle going on a culinary
voyage through Japan and like, whatever.
You're saying you met an American fan?
I met, I meant many American fans in Japan.
I didn't meet a single Japanese.Not a single random Japanese
person came up to me to talk to me.
So what I think, what I think people pay attention to in Japan
is the official CPT channel, so they'll recognize you.

(01:22:50):
Yeah, I see what you mean because you're you're so big,
but your shit is like on your own own platforms, right?
So that they watch all the CPT events and.
They like, they like in general,they respect, like the culture
of having a skill. So if you're like, you're a
strong player, you'll be known and respected and whatever.
And if you're part of like the official events, right, right.
Like that, that is the type of fandom that exists.
But like, as far as like cultural stuff surrounding it, I

(01:23:12):
don't know how much that penetrates because it's
complete. It's a language barrier, first
of all. And then so yeah, there's,
there's a difference there. I just want to be clear about
that. I think you'll for sure get
recognized because you're hosting the big events that
they're watching. So like.
You're there in front of the fucking tournament.
But it's not like they're watching Maximilian dudes or
necessarily, you know what I mean?

(01:23:34):
Like, that's what I'm getting at.
Like that kind of stuff doesn't crossover.
So we, we and, and also what what we see on our Twitter feeds
is not what they're going to seeon their Twitter feeds.
But like stuff like that Red Bull accumulate like you can't.
How can I put it? I also think English is and
correct me, I want to sound ignorant.
I think English is more of like a universal, is that the right

(01:23:58):
word? Like it's more of a widespread
language than Japanese, right? So no matter which way you cut
it, are you going to make Red Bull kumite in Japanese?
Are you going to make you get what I'm saying?
Like, are you going to make you have Japanese players?
Are you going to make EVO primarily Japanese?

(01:24:19):
No, that will be the dumbest shit you ever did in your life,
right? Evo, Japan.
Right, but not not evo, not evo.You get what I'm saying.
You can't do that because English is just so that alone.
We cannot put a fucking like there's people, fuck just
America, There's people in Europe that watch that are going

(01:24:43):
to watch your you and me. I interviewed a motherfucker, a
little kid from Norway, and he'slike, yeah, you know, Brian F
got me into the FGC. You know what?
I'm saying yeah, there's the English speaking world is way
bigger. Way bigger.
So in the end of the day, yes you have the y'all bigger thing
in Japan, but there's plenty of people that I get to reach that

(01:25:07):
that fucking even the best Japanese players can't reach
just off of a language barrier. I can reach people in South
America and America and motherfucking all the different
countries of Europe because theyall speak English.
So that's the same thing for ourplayers with Punk and MENA and
all these guys. They know exactly what Punk is
saying on his pop off. They know exactly what MENA is
talking about when he doing all this.
They know exactly what joke I I'm making on my shows and what

(01:25:30):
not like that. And when I go to those countries
I meet hella motherfucking fans every motherfucking time.
So but you can't say the same for Aru is fucking God like the
Aru might be better than me, Like Aru's the best, Aru's
better than me. I'm I'm not.
But I'm just saying the languagebarrier alone, It's not about
who's better. Right.
There's more potential. There's more way more potential

(01:25:51):
in the English speaking world. But I guess I've been concerned
about like how the rate of growth has been going for a long
time versus the rate of growth in Japan.
It's it's just exploding so muchin Japan right now and we've
we've had so much potential in the West for forever, but it's
still the rate of growth. It's still smaller in raw
numbers and it still hasn't grown the same.

(01:26:11):
So all I'm saying is I could be completely wrong, but I would
not, I would tell people, don't be too surprised if randomly we
start seeing superstars in street for league Japan.
I just feel like eventually I. Agree.
I agree and like something big change.
I I just the economics of it all.
I don't know, I I'm hoping we can catch up in the West because
yeah, there's too much potential.
I agree. I don't think I'm not trying to

(01:26:32):
be like a doomer here and and imply like, oh, E sports for FTC
in the West about to collapse any day now, but for street
fighters specifically, it's getting serious in Japan.
I'll just add that I believe that there's a reason why we are
like the, I don't say LA, but I'm talking about like America,
like we are the entertainment hub of the world.

(01:26:53):
Is that fair to say? Like entertainment or no?
There's competition now. I don't know.
I mean, it used to be Hollywood,right?
But other? You have to say like, that's our
shit though, right? Like.
China's catching up, and there'sa lot of.
Now we number one though, for now, USUSA in the world, I guess
that's where it's entertainment.I would have to say maybe

(01:27:14):
there's a lot of people. There's a lot of people.
It once again, it depends, it depends on the term about like
breadth versus death or something.
Because like the reach of USA isthe the most.
But like the way the percentage of capturing a population if
like I bet you, there's something in like Brazil that
captures like 90% of the population and you'll get more
raw numbers, but USA has the most reach.
But in terms of raw numbers thatpeople TuneIn, I don't know,

(01:27:36):
it's hard to say. OK so they drop your shit out
doing more numbers than fucking Avengers end game and shit in
these other countries like this.You're just killing the virtual
end game nigga. No why?
You could just be honest stop orlike it's not even close.
For now, we are the number. There's big, there's big movies
in China because China has so many people.
Bro I'm not trying to say America is fucking great and all

(01:27:58):
that. Please don't kill me all like
it's unpopular Brown don't even want to say this shit.
Everybody is great at shit. I think Japan is also on the
greatest shit. Entertainment is a lot of niggas
like me and yourself and all of that are doing and and that are
way bigger than us too. But I'm talking about like, this
is our shit. I'm a American ass nigga and
this is what we good at, right? We good at this.

(01:28:19):
My point is that there is a lot of value in that.
Like so let Street Fighter League USA be like, OK, I'm
going to ask you this. I hope they go live, I really
hope. Let it go live, let that shit go
live. Let that shit go live and see
what happened bro. The when it comes to how can I
put this bro OK the who's bigger?

(01:28:43):
Fuck man, I don't want to use myself fuck OK who has who's
going to have more viral moments?
A talent in a eastern country ora talent but?
Viral to who? That's what I'm saying like what

(01:29:05):
you keep talking about viral stuff goes viral in Japan all
the time we want. There's AV tuber who just beat
Chris Wong who has like 1.2 million followers on on ranked
and that shit has like 100 ChrisWong reply with the thumbs up
has like 20 K likes and like 50Kretweets.
There's stuff the CR cup in Japan.
This shit with the V tubers in Japan gets more viewers than

(01:29:26):
anything we've ever done in the West.
By the way, there was like nearly 500,000 viewers in Japan
for the CR Cup. Lou, these two tweets.
OK a random dude in Japan, 1.6 million followers beat Chris
Wong in a rank set. It got 51 K likes a couple days
ago. Chris Wong just said yes that's
ME12K likes. Is that viral to you?

(01:29:47):
When's the last time you've seenanything with 51K likes on
western FGC Twitter? Second of all.
Mina Rd. Benardi and and who was that
with? Daigo to.
Be that was in Japanese. That was in Japanese.
The tweet was in fucking Japanese.
What are you talking about? He tweeted at Daigo to call, you

(01:30:08):
know, ask him respectfully for the first of 10 and the tweet
was literally in Japanese. It was for the Japanese
community and it had less only and only 38 K likes. 38 K likes
on MENA Rd. asking Diego for a first attempt, which was the
biggest deal to us. This random fucking content
creator in in Japan. Well, we can't say.
Played against Chris Wall. $1.6 million.

(01:30:32):
But do you I don't think you understand the scale of these V
tubers and influencers in the Japanese scene.
Yes No, but the famous dudes andthe famous content creators are
fucking with Street Fighter six in Japan like insane.
See our up literally Sierra Cup with the V Tubers V Tuber team
tournament. Say Jim Slambo with V Tubers
only right? 500,000 viewers.

(01:30:53):
Right. How many followers do these V
tubers have? Millions.
So what I'm saying is, but they're all heavily playing
Street Fighter Six. So what I'm saying is is in
Japan they have much more influence in Pool, and now the
players are being associated with them too.
They're being sucked up into this upper echelon of Japanese
online entertainment, and it hastapped into the audience there
much more concretely than it hasin the West.

(01:31:14):
There's just less people in the West that care right now.
OK so I ask you this right? So 1 you asked me on the flip
side like you asked me this. So these like Japanese V tuber
gods with all these fucking views, do you think that the
western FGC watched any of that or no?

(01:31:35):
Like do you think the western FGC was seeing these?
Tweets. No.
And that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
We're in our bubbles. That's what I'm saying, we're in
our bubbles. But I I agree with what you're
saying but my point is right when it comes to how can I put
this when it comes to entertainment.
Take us out this shit then. Like because it's so big in

(01:31:58):
Japan? Men Rd. retire all American
talent retire punk bots. Did they retire?
No. Did they?
Retire. No, no, no.
I know you didn't. I'm, I'm not putting words in
your mouth. I'm saying I'm talking about
value. Take us out the motherfucking
game tomorrow, everybody. You take all American?
Sure. All the Europe, all of us out.

(01:32:20):
Leave Japan and show me what thefuck is going on now Show me
what the fuck. This shit ain't just for Capcom
health bro. My point is that there is
tremendous value being given is my point.
Like us selling out, That's my point.
You can take all of us out this shit tomorrow, nigga, and it's

(01:32:41):
going to hurt. That shit Ain't no, it's not
like oh, you just going goddamn.Now Capcom is a big.
See my perspective. My perspective on this is they
can't just. Run over Japanese Street Fighter
guns bro I'm sorry. This is all an investment for
the bottom line of Capcom. At the end of the day, sometimes
you spend money on investments and they don't make a return
right away. I don't know if what they do in
the Western initiatives is making a sufficient return to

(01:33:03):
keep this up for the long term. That's my point.
Whereas in Japan, the investmentis making returns, as in it's
growing at a really fast rate. That's what I'm getting for.
So what I can, I can see, I can see the funds start to divert.
That's what I, I, I'm, I'm concerned about a future where
the funds start to shift more and more and more to the place
where they've seen the most growth.

(01:33:25):
That's what I'm getting at. I, I can't call I, I'm Privy to
shit and I can go on that, but you know, nigga, you know, but.
Sure, sure. But all I say in general is my
point is I believe that much likely should the players have
gone through plenty of times like this concept of I take it
personally, this stupid ass concept of like we don't provide

(01:33:50):
value and shit like that is a constant fucking lie in battle.
And oh, it's only like bro, no, no, no, no, no, ain't nobody
like hey, Rob TV you want some money here?
Like what the fuck? Ain't nobody on this earth
having Punk and Knuckle doing all these players do shit for

(01:34:16):
their fucking health. Like hey Harry, just no bro.
So there is tremendous value being provided.
I know for a fact that I personally go to fuck outside
and it's not uncommon for me to meet fans.
I know for a fact that Punk go to grocery store, go to Publix
and shit like that and it's running into Punk to God fans
all the time. Yeah, but if fans are paying the
bills, I I know, but what I thatdepends on the monetization

(01:34:40):
strategy. Listen, Rob, we've seen esports
bubbles come and go. There's no one spending money
for free. Yes, people spend money for
free. They echo Fox.
What the fuck were they doing all the esports bubble?
So we can't say that people don't throw away money because
it's a gamble. People gamble.
Businesses gamble, So what? I know we don't know.
I know we're looking from the outside in.
So that's why I'm saying from the outside in, I'm seeing more

(01:35:02):
and more growth in Japan and I wouldn't be surprised if things
continue to move in that direction unless we can pick a
pace in the West a bit more thatI'm saying Japan is outpacing us
right now. That's what I'm saying.
OK, now you think. It's I'm saying it's over for
the West, but I'm saying Japan is outpacing us.
You think Japan is making betterproduct, but players are making
better content. You think because if you think
any of that, so it's you're entirely.

(01:35:23):
Wrong. No, I just think the audience is
not making. I do think, I do think the
besides like there's more sage slam style like events.
I do think there's a bit more community driven events.
I think they have that on top ofus.
I think I think a lot of the topplayers make better content
actually for sure. I actually think that there's a
lot more Taquito Kiwanis, a lot more players like actually doing
the YouTube game. I actually 100% think that

(01:35:44):
because I think our top players are lazy as fuck.
What I was what? Brian, what do you, what did you
say it was? Already bigger.
It was already bigger. It's Japan, yeah, and it's
probably the biggest shit. It's niggas.
They are real celebrities over like they are not FTC.
They are real celebrities in that country.

(01:36:05):
So you're proving my point. I don't know what you're trying
to say. But I might.
No, they're trying to say, I mean no.
My point in saying that is like,you can't.
That is not because they're making better content or
something. It's just a bigger thing.
Like Pokémon is bigger over there too.
Like shit is bigger. No, they make better content.
The, the I watch the Kiwano videos, they put, they put out a

(01:36:26):
lot of and they put out a lot ofeducational content.
They they, they collaborate withthe other players.
OK, was Street Fighter before these players start making
content, hella content, right? And we can if we if we look at
that. But one Street Fighter already
way bigger in Japan, Yeah. But I don't know what you're
asking anymore. You asked me if they make better
content, so. OK, no, I'm saying that's not

(01:36:48):
OK. My point is, do you think it's
bigger because. Oh.
No, I get what you're saying. Yes, I think, but I but I don't
matter. But I think they, I think
everything contributes. No, but I think it, I think it
contributes. I, I don't think it's the sole
reason. I agree it's not the majority of
reasons. But what I'm saying is with any
kind of scale we get, we all have to keep contributing to

(01:37:10):
keep the snowball effect going, to keep adding to it.
And I do think in Japan, they'redoing a lot more at a community
level to contribute to the snowball effect, to keep it
going on an individual, person by person level.
I do think that now as far as like the entertainment products
with the big events. The business is way different in
Japan. I know that I know that they the
players making this content and shit.

(01:37:32):
Let me show you their contract and let me show you the American
players contracts, bro like it'sit's different from celebrities.
So there's bro so. There's more, I guess there's
more incentive. There's more incentive for them
to do that. They're not to do that.
So we use the word lazy. No, we use the word lazy for
American players. No, that's not accurate bro.
Like you, you can't. Brother, I think some of the
American players. Are lazy.

(01:37:52):
They might be, but I don't like.I think that for sure.
If you saying it comparatively because you can say it on a
vacuum, but not comparatively. If I know for a fact if when I
turn on this camera, I'm making goddamn, I know for show because
of who I am. I'm, I walk down the street and

(01:38:12):
60 niggas know me per day. If I turn the camera, I'm
guaranteed to make thousands every week.
Guaranteed. Hell yeah, they're going to turn
on that motherfucking camera. And it's cheap for them to buy
editor because they're making all that money.
I'm A Celebrity. I get it.
I get it. Whereas these players got to
build Shine got to fucking buildhis shit up from Ground Zero
men, they got to build his shit up from ground.

(01:38:33):
That's not the same bro. So you can call them lazy, but
not those people players but whoever, but not comparatively
to a Japanese player that is making fucking 10 KA month off a
contract and that is a world celebrity off of something that
they off of something they did. Nothing.
Off of something that they did nothing to build.
I ain't talking about you could be a nigga that just moved to

(01:38:54):
Japan. That just was, you knew like the
new shoot toe in them niggas. You could be one of them.
And you benefit from the fact that you just happen to be
Japanese and living in Japan andyou got like at the game and now
you are a celebrity. So now you make content and you
are going to make thousands and thousands guaranteed off of
being a celebrity. And you did not work harder than

(01:39:15):
fucking an American player. No, so we're not so.
Why don't you move to Japan and then compete in Street Fighter
League and then turn on the camera and have an editor who
translates your videos? Well, I think that's what's
about to happen, unfortunately. That's what I'm saying so.
I don't know. I'm just saying that there's,
it's not bigger over there because of the a better product.
That's all. My point is it's not bigger
because it's a better product that's.

(01:39:36):
All I'm I think it's a a contributor.
I I agree with what you're saying.
It's not the main thing, but I. Nobody over there.
It builds momentum. Punk is better than everybody
over there at the game and entertainment wise.
I just said an objective statement that we can shut the
fuck up about now or unless you're going to say something
stupid, punk is better than everybody over there at Street
Fighter and at entertainment. Yes or no?

(01:39:57):
Don't. Do this to me, Rob, please.
You're not saying yes or no. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. I agree.
But I think he would have more viewers if his if his videos
were dubbed in Japanese and. You know but I'm but but my
point is is not the world ain't fair bro.
It ain't everything ain't mirrorbased bro.

(01:40:17):
Like that's just the way it willwork.
So it's not, but I think, I think you're arriving to the
same conclusion I am that I'm concerned that eventually Japan
will become this giant like lucrative business vacuum that
sucks away value from the West towards Japan.
That's that's that's what I'm getting at.
I think you're kind of being a similar.
Trend well, you know and I even hear shit behind the scenes.

(01:40:38):
I'm sure you even heard shit. So I know there's really people
that are considering that. Like I know for a fact but.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.
But what I would say is my, I guess my point, and for
everybody watching this right, this is how the fuck I argue
with my mother fucking homies. Like shit, This is what we do.
Like this shit. This ain't no neutral.
We get to God damn, you know what I'm saying?
Get into this shit. My point is, I think that the

(01:41:00):
Western audience is too valuablefor Capcom to allow that trend.
So what I believe happens because that could be crippling
to the to West the western product.
So I what I think is they have to at that point, if these guys
are like, hey, fuck it, no, we going to move to Japan.

(01:41:21):
Fuck it. We all going the birds going men
are going let punk men are bro what punk men are Knuckleduke.
Well, you know what I'm saying, We all going to fuck Japan,
Capcom. I'm not going to be like Oh well
alright, we all in Japan. Why are you even taking spots
from Japanese players? How about that?
You taking spots from Japanese players?

(01:41:41):
It's so, it's so competitive. It's so like we're to, to be
clear, it's not like you go to Japan and it's free, right?
Like those Japanese players are fighting for their spots too.
So yeah, you're right, there would be more competition for
the Japanese players you'd be kicking out more players for.
Sure, taking the mother fucking spot in Japanese Japan.
I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's that's what I'm
saying. Even if you're in Japan, you're

(01:42:02):
like, oh shit, like. Yeah, like, fuck, here they
come. Yeah, you kind of fucking up our
business a little bit, but then but you I don't think basically
what I'm saying is not only is the West valuable, we are
extremely valuable. These players are extremely
valuable even to the bottom line, to the point that they
cannot afford to let all of the best players and talent OR

(01:42:23):
whoever the fuck all go to motherfucking Japan.
Like, hey, you know what? Fucking I make more money if I
just spoke fucking Japanese and now I'm going to go and learn
Japanese and move to Japan and everybody go over to Japan now.
Fuck it. All right, we're arguing too
much, Rob. We got to close this out.
We can go forever. You got any final?
Normally I go to IDOM for some final words of wisdom.
What what do you got? Do you have anything you can
close this out? With Capricorns coming up, the

(01:42:43):
businesses changing, what are you going to leave the people
with at the end? I know words of wisdom.
What I would say is that like bro, honestly, fighting games
have gotten way bigger. Like I know people and and like
I said, maybe I'll see it differently, but from my vantage
point, this shit is way bigger than when I got into this shit.

(01:43:04):
Like I can't it's fascinating for me to see these crowds.
Bro, I'm talking about you go toDr. We doing a pre show, not a
pre show, but like in a team event that's not even the main
tournament and the crowd is going insane.
Evil brother, anybody who might not have been that even don't
know, bro, we can't get into theyou can't.

(01:43:25):
Well, I, you know, of course I was able to get in praise God.
But like you can't get into evilto see top 8 easily, bro.
Like there's a the line is like,I feel like it's a mile long to
try to get into the fucking venue at Evo and it's the
stadium of people on different levels of the stadium, far as I

(01:43:46):
can see with cell phone lights and shit like that in the air.
I was at Evo this last year and I swear to you, I was like, what
the fuck is this like? And what I what I meant by that
is like, what is I'm at EVO and I'm not just seeing all my
homies that I know when all the FCC, there's a billion people
there at these events who even at Street Fighter league, Bro, I

(01:44:09):
promise y'all, I promise you every event that I, that I work,
that I go to, I swear to you, I meet fans every time who say
this is my first ever event, every fucking time I meet
multiple people who this is their first tournament.
There are more new players than ever.
I think Street Fighter six content is doing much better

(01:44:33):
numbers and shit than what I wasseeing in five.
I think there's way more people that are actually watching
Street Fighter six content and everything that shit does good
on TikTok and, and, and all kindof shit.
You put out a fucking podcast. We do fucking trash talk
podcast. I'm in a gym and a mother come
up to me and he like, Hey bro, you and Brian F got me into the

(01:44:53):
FGC and then it's telling me howthe shit we was talking about
affecting him in his life. So overall there I agree that
there's stuff to improve, but I also believe that proof of
concept is there. There's growing pains, but I
also would say I don't think motherfuckers is just investing

(01:45:16):
in all kind of it's weird to explain bro, like look, man,
this is the best product. We can say whatever we want.
Product wise ain't shit more andE sports ain't that more
interior than us. We got the most entertaining
players, the most entertaining talent.
Shit IS1V1, shit is hype, shit is exciting.
They got different infrastructure.
Give us time, let us keep growing.

(01:45:38):
And I think the FVC shit going to be just as big as anything
else, if not bigger. And that's not me speaking
fucking optimistically, that's my genuine opinion.
It's not even like it's my plan or career path.
My YouTube plaque is not from FGC bro.
Like it ain't like this is. It ain't like I'm saying in 20
years, it's my fucking life plan.
I love this shit and I think that it's the best product in

(01:46:00):
the world. So that's all I got to God damn
say. And be confident in yourself and
be cocky a little bit, but don'tbe an idiot.
That's the I wanted to call that.
I wanted to call that optimistic, but you called me
out before I could even. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, bro.
I'll see a fire. I'll see a fire.
Oh, and brought up the best content creator in this shit,
bro. Facts.
There we go. Perfect.
There we go. Let's close it on that.

(01:46:20):
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