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Capcom Cup 11 is approaching fast, where forty of the best
Street Fighter players on the planet will battle it out for
the grand prize of $1 million. And we're here to answer one
question, Who Will Win it all? But The thing is, we only have
one problem. You see, in the 10 years since
Capcom Cup's inception, the favorite to win it has never
done so. In fact, in some years, the
favorites to take the whole thing end up going out tied for

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last place. And now with the online base
regional qualification system used in recent years, things
have become even more unpredictable.
Last year here, Uma from Taiwan ended up winning the 1,000,000
dollars. 99% of the viewers at home had never even heard of Uma
before that day. On top of that, players not
qualify from their home countries to go to Capcom Cup to
play against players they have never played before in their

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life, giving us matchups that have never happened before,
making predicting who's going towin extremely speculative.
But that's exactly what Extra Trashy is here to do today.
On today's episode, Idem and I will break down every single
group and predict their winners,create the Fantasy Top 16
bracket, and figure out once andfor all Who Will Win Capcom Cup
11 and take home the $1,000,000.And that's not all, ROB TV will

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be joining in on the conversation to spice things up
and to get the real truth out ofus on who we think will take it.
This Capcom Cup 11 Extra trashy prediction show was filmed live
on stream, so as a disclaimer toour listeners on Spotify and
podcasting platforms, the audio might end up being a little
rough in some sections as we debate to get our picks in.
For those of you who want to watch along to see as we build

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up our group winners and the bracket, you can watch the full
video version on Spotify and YouTube as well.
And with that said, thanks for tuning in and on to the episode.
What's going on? Idom hold on.
Breaking stuff. Wait.
OK, I'm ready. Tell the people what are you up
to? No.
No, no, I was just, I was messing up, messing with some.
Settings. But I am here.

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I'm ready now. You can tell it's live.
All right, let's get into it. OK, so first of all, what do you
think about the groups, man? I feel like the groups are
actually really good this year compared to last year because
they were kind of, they were kind of whack last year.
So what do you think about them this year?
They're better. I there is no group of death,
which is much better than how itwas last year.

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There's multiple, I don't think there's multiple groups of
deaths. I think it's just way more
balanced. I don't think there's any group
that is like, this is impossiblefor somebody.
It's just like they're all equally competitive.
I don't know about that. I, I, I think there's, I think

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there's several groups that are clearly weaker in my opinion.
And I would say that like to me,I think group F&G are the
hardest by far. And maybe HI think I think
there's a clear, there's clear favorite groups or like harder
groups. I think Group G is the hardest

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the hardest, but I do think the rest of the groups are kind of
right next to each other. Like I think Group A could be
the second hardest technically. I think Group A is pretty
difficult as well and group H isalso an underdog pick.
But even to say like Group C is not a walk in the park either to
be fair. Like none of them are Kakaduru,
Tokido, Duel, Kevin, Zaggy, Pilato, those are still like

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killers in a group. I think every group has like 4
really really strong players. I think Group G just has like a
lot of really good players, right?
Yeah, no, The thing is, comparedto last year, it's so much
better. Like I was so happy to do this
one and not last year for the group draw on the stream,
because last year you kind of had to pretend like, wow, this
is so good. It wouldn't really like so many

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groups were very, very, very underdeveloped compared to group
F So and our our initial reaction was funny because we
were like going off about Group F because just because of the
meme. But I do think Group G is 100%
the hardest. But you can't call any of these
for free, right? I think last year is very easy
to predict a lot of the groups, but this year you actually

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can't. But that's what we're going to
do. So for people listening in, what
we're going to do is we're goingto pick a winner or loser.
We're going to pick the whole bracket.
What we think, I mean, it's, it's too hard to do that, but
we're just going to do our best.And then we're going to even run
the actual bracket. So we're, we're going all the
way. We're going to figure out the
winner today. So I I said I said this on the

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last trash talk. Extra trashy.
The person with the easiest group still always wins Capcom
Cup. So by that logic, I think
personally somebody from Group Bis winning Capcom Cup.
I don't know, I. Mean I do think that.
Would that would follow the lore?
That would follow the lore. That is the easiest group, but
you don't have, I mean, I don't know, is it NL?

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NL went very far last year. No one.
No one's taking Capcom. Cup.
Yeah, I, I. Don't make the rules, but that's
what happened. All right, Well, we got to see.
We got to see. Then it depends on who you have
coming out of winners of that group.
Then let's do let's do it, man, Group A phenom, Takamura, Hot
Dog 29, Salvatore and Abashi andPunk.

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I mean, punk's making out of winners, right?
Like. Yeah, Yeah.
I don't think I. Don't think either of us would
dispute that. Nothing else.
There's no, no, I have no. I have no argument for punk
making out of winners, unless like, Ida Bashi gets him.
I feel like, yeah, there's no one else that I think.
Would beat him. Yeah, I think Phenom is of that

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caliber, but I think Punk just always wins against players who
play solid, right? So like Phenom is so solid, but
I don't know if he he'd take it.Has he played Phenom in Street
Fighter 6 yet? I don't think so.
I don't think they've ever played in Street Fighter 6 at
all. I, I, I know punk.

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I know punk has always had a good record versus Hot dog.
I feel like the only. Reason I would.
Pick ETA's on is because I thinkGeeve into Cami's kind of hard
for Cami, but the only way I cansee kind of like Phenom or
Takamura like it it's Ken and like obviously the Ken
shenanigans can kind of happen, but I I feel like I'm betting a

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lot on just like Ken. Just.
Steamrolling cami or steamrolling punk at that point,
right? Yeah, I I don't really see a way
for this to happen either any other way either.
What about? Actually.
I know Salvatore plays Cami, butand he he went out of Chile or

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sorry, he went out, he's Venezuelan, but he went out of
South America East and he wanteda very stacked region in my
opinion. And I was surprised because
that's where Blas and Kramer arefrom.
And Blas, Blas got out in the regional in the point system.
And then Salvatore ended up winning the regional final
finals over like Dukey Shaka andKryme and all of them.
And apparently the inside Intel is that he is the South American

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Noah with Kami. They have a whole thing he goes
guest story style. They they had a whole thing.
Some people were telling me he has a whole thing where like
it's the guest story mode. I'm forgetting the exact term
they use. But he puts himself in burnout
ASAP and then just rushes the shit out of people with cami.
So I don't know man. It might be one of those things

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where it's like the first time you play them you might get
caught off guard. So I could see Salvatore ruining
some people's dreams. But I don't know.
You don't think you can do it? It's a hard ask.
Like it, I feel like the problem, like the way this
format's always kind of been, it's like there's a lot of
people who get to the Capcom Cup, but like this is kind of

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your first Capcom Cup, your first big, like first big,
really big stage match. And then like you can get
nervous or just like breakdown. Uma obviously played amazing,
but Uma was going to tournamentsbefore that.
So like it's not kind of like your first big, big event.
Which? I think scares a lot of people.
Same thing with Zen. I guess Zen was kind of the

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Cinderella story that actually did happen at Capcom Cup, but.
It it. It's just.
Hard. Especially Capcom Cup being like
your first big international tournament.
Yeah, I mean, so how about this?So we're thinking Punk winners,
but to be honest, it could be a game thing.
And I was checking the match history just now.
Idabashi or sorry, Phenom actually lost to Takamura and

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and Street Fighter six and they're one showing because I
was going to say like, you know,maybe yeah, you think Punk will
beat Phenom, but Phenom could beat everybody else as well and
it could come down to a game record differential, which was
what the the first tiebreaker was last year.
So I gamers 8 in 2023, Takamura beat Phenom 32.
That's ancient history, right? That's the that's the most
recent data. There's so little data on these

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players, but what do you think II can see like if Phenom beats
everybody but Punk loses to Edibashi, for example, I I can
see this happening. Phenom loses the punk and Punk
loses Edibashi than a game differential.
But no, no matter what you thinkpunk will come out on winners.
Yeah, I can't I can't see a a place where punk doesn't make it

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out of angry. I'm just trying to I'm trying to
spin tails here to see who who can come up with the losers.
Then what's what's the losers going to be?
That's tough. I can't I think Phenom but that.
Was hard to. That was hard to call.
Like hot dog's pretty. Hot Dog's really good.
Yeah, we're sleeping on Hot Dog.Edison, Edison.

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It's it's it's. Scary now because with the whole
geef nerf with the SBD thing, because you know Edison, when
Edison beat me, you know he was jump canceling SBD in my command
grout. I'm not saying I would have won
if it wasn't in the game, but you know.
You're saying he? Was cheating and that's why I
beat you, he. He was.
Kind of cheating I got you understood?
Like that they had to nerf it, right?
Understood, but this is a this is a group of landmines.

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Like we're we're not talking about Takamura.
I think Savitora, basically he'sthe the Venezuelan landmine,
right, which is like no one's going to know what it's going to
play like. But even beyond that, Takamura
is the known landmine, but you can't defuse that bomb.
Like, I mean, you know that first hand, right?
Like he kind of he was the reason why you most likely
didn't win that captain Cup. Like that was a big reason
because he got you in the group stages and he got out winners

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and that, you know, that's too long of a path for you to win
through through losers like that.
So I honestly think that this isa very volatile group, very
volatile. Takamura upset somebody last
year's Capcom Cup too, right? He beat somebody.
He wasn't favorite to me. I think he'd be like, was it
Gachi Kun or Bow Master or somebody in this group that I

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don't think he was pretty at this point.
I don't I don't think you can say there's someone he's not
supposed to beat, you know what I mean?
Like he just he just be doing the thing.
Like I don't think he had a great showing last year.
So he ended up beating Val Master and soul VNG Val Master
had a really bad showing relative to his expectations
going in because he was super hot leading up to that and Val

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master went last place in that group.
So I don't I don't think he madehuge waves last year.
Takamura, but so basically it looks like we're thinking Phenom
or Inabashi. But hot dog, dude, hot dog could
take it. Yeah, like I said, hot.
Those this this real sleeper pig, actually.
So what do you, what are we going with?
I'm still leaning towards phenom, but what do you think

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I'm leading towards? Eden's on.
Really. Yeah.
Cami. Zengeef.
Cami. How's that?
He has 2 Camis, 2 Ken's and a DJDJ is not good for Geef.
Has hot dog. Played DJ I know he's been
playing mostly bison though that's true maybe he'll bring
out the dude maybe he's bringingout the the DJ for geef but

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that's true for Geef has never been good so that's why I'm kind
of leading towards Edison. Maybe you'll pull up DJ all
right and Ibashi it is this one the losers you can't call like I
I definitely can see a lot of these players making it out of
that, but but all right we're sticking to it for wrong.

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It's your fault. That's all I'm saying.
All right. The winner of Capcom Cup Group
B. You're you're basically.
The one in the one effect. Yeah, yeah, this is definitely,
I guess on paper the weakest group that's still not to diss
the players. It's like this Capcom Cup.
I think it's just so much more stacked, so much more stacked
than a lot of them actually. Then since COVID, this might

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actually be the most stacked Capcom Cup since COVID.
The, the the offline premieres kind of kind of helped that out
a lot. I feel like yeah, yeah, they
finally padded it up with a lot of offline qualifiers.
So I, I definitely think this isthe hardest Captain Cup we've
had since we're back to, to offline events.
So this one's the wild card pick, right?

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Because salty kid, he plays Kimberly out of Belgium as well
as as Takamura. And I don't know what he's going
to do see Anik as well. How to Bangladesh Sidney would
be a crazy fairy tale story, right, because you know, he
couldn't go last year. He had that whole visa issue.
There was some drama with that where you know, he's trying to

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fight to get in some emails got leaked.
There's there's some problems with Sidney last year.
But I see he cleaned up his act and just got he got his visa now
in time because he got it last year qualified again for free.
He beats the crap out of everyone in his tournaments out
of the Asia S region and he keeps picking basically random
select. So it's kind of, yeah.

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I mean, he doesn't actually pickrandom select, but he has a
different character every tournament.
This guy might be the best player.
Hold on. You.
You got me. Scared this guy actually might
be the best player ever in his region, whatever character he
feels like. Well, that's like JA BM, that's
JA BM too in South Africa. JA BM locked in on Terry.
But that's why I'm saying when we look at the results, it's

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like so hard to get any kind of gauge on what he's going to do.
So wild card like those first two are super wild card for me.
I I'm not sure like do you really want to play a group with
salty kid First the two I almostsaid Mika to me it's the same
thing. It's just Kimberly and Mika are
the same thing in my mind. Like do you actually think that?
It's definitely not as bad. I'd much rather fight Kimberly

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than Mika. I think it's the same thing, but
I just I just hate air approach characters like that.
Like elbow drives me nuts depending on the character.
Like some characters I played deal with the better than
others, but that should just like melts my brain and throw
loops. She still just throw loops you
well, throw loose, melt everyone's brain.
True. All right, what do you think?

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Winners, obviously NLJB know areare the favorites 3 favorites.
Yeah, I might actually. I don't I don't know how good JB
does versus Noah. I feel like this is actually the
two American picks for me, but Ifeel like it's really just going

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to boil down to. Who?
Wins between JB and Noah, I don't know their history.
They go back and forth. Let's, let's pull up the stats.
Let's see. Liquopedia has the actual
history, so I'm getting the dataset count 4 to one JB.
That's a lot more free than I thought it would be.
But who won the last one? Let's see, JB won the last two

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showings in 2024, two O and three one and the World
Warriors. So Noah won the first one in
early Street Fighter six and then JB won every single one
since then. I might have to be JB then.
Would have to be my pick then. Interesting.
Hold on, let's look at NL Noah because they went Noah beats NL

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at CEOI believe. Or maybe I have it backwards.
They're 11 NLB Noah at CEOI don't know when Noah beat NL.
Noah beat NL at the mix up, the one where he qualified for
esports World Cup. So that's where he beat NL.
So he got the run back at the mix up and they're they're both
32. So actually that's very close.
That's like a coin flip between them.

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So with that, do you think then JB is the favorite to get out in
winners? I, I, yeah, I think JBI think JB
probably is actually now I'm actually thinking about it
before I was picking Noah. To make it out and winners.
But I didn't know, like, JB Noahwas like that, like JB was just
beating Noah constantly. So yeah, now JB is my pick.

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Well, NL beat JB 21 at the esports Last Chance qualifier,
so they're all close. Like, I mean, that, you know,
that doesn't mean anything really, the grand scheme of
things, but this shit's close towhat it means.
Yeah, it's close. Oh, shit.
Hold on, hold on. We might need a another guest in
here. I I didn't tell you, but we, we

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we might have Rob TV crash the party real quick.
Oh, shit. Rob's here.
Well, let's see. Hold on.
I can see Robin so long. You in.
Yeah. Can you hear me?
Yeah, I hear you all now. Oh shit, OK.
What a Rob, how you been? Well.
You No, no, hold up Brian. Look, I literally rush home from
the gym. Oh my.

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God, I texted Rob to join this podcast and he hauled that's
that gym and then took out his phone and recorded a video.
He's like, oh man, I'm so sorry.I just got to the gym.
My bad. My man's making up excuses to
not hop on this shit. The groups, bro Groups, hey.
Come on, let's do. It Group B?
Well, what do you think about Group A by the way?

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We we picked Punkin Nibashi. Who who y'all put?
Who y'all put on winners though?Check this I I'm sharing my
screen punkin winners and losersand and losers is Edubashi.
I got punkin winners and phenom and lose and losers bro.
Phenom, What do you what do you think about?
Losers. I I don't think phenom, I think

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it's Edubashi bro. I don't understand how you're
picking you. Know because.
You said that because Edubashi, you beach ass.
It's Edubashi Beach ass and EastCoast and now you think he's
beating everybody ass. You know bro, I just fucking
winners. I don't understand where you're
coming from, but. Punk and winners.
But I don't think Phenom's goingto be idabashi because Geef just

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beats Ken. I don't understand.
I feel like Phenom has always had a grappler problem as well.
I feel like phenom in the end ofthe day when it comes to big
tournaments. His consistency is crazy.
I know Edubashi has taken that Capital Cup already, but I just
think big tournament phenom is one of the like one of the best
in the world. Like we always bring up how Mina
is better in big tournaments to a lesser degree.

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I would consider I would consider Phenom the same way.
I agree, but I think Edubashi might have an advantage over the
rest of the field more. That's what I'm thinking too.
Like Takamura Decker actually beat phenom and it's and they're
only except they played in tournament this year or in
Street Fighter six, right? I I think that's a coin flip
though. But like I think Idabashi has a
good group besides punk maybe overall.

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That's why I would say Idabashi too.
I'll tell you what a big thing on that punk thing.
Of course we all obviously have punk.
I'm telling y'all bro, punk is different now.
Like after winning cut Evo, thatmotherfucker he going to be he
he definitely making top 8. But E sports World Cup he joined
in pools. I I get what you're saying.
I kind of agree, but that's it'snot he's not invincible.

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He's not invincible. You're right.
Now we're still with the Debauche group.
B Group B Group B. Yeah, so we're saying here that
the breakdown is pretty interesting because first of
all, items, Predation, the easiest group, always wins
Capcom Cup. So essentially we're saying that
whoever wins this group wins Capcom Cup.
That's kind of the vibe that that's always that happened

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every year, Ron. Every year since we've been
doing these group stages, the person with the easiest group
wins. Capcom.
It's always been like that. Damn.
But it's kind of a weird group, right?
Uma had an easy group. Uma had the easy group.
He's the easiest group in the cup he had, the easiest group in
the cup he had. Easier group but he saw it safe
and safe. Was fucking cooking safe and say

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be? UMA for sure, but on paper.
But on paper weekend. How?
To put that as an easy group if,but I'll tell you what.
But a lot of the groups that capfrom cup were kind of easy that
that cap from cup was one of theweakest cap from cups in my
opinion. Do y'all remember what Uma
looked like? Because I don't.
I don't even remember what Uma looked like.
He looks like money, Rob. That's all I got to know.

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I. Think the dollar bills raining
down and not trophy. That's all I got to remember.
He's the the I the concept of $1,000,000.
That's Uma right there. But Uma had safe rain pro Janine
Hill, Ross ROF and Garnett. I don't think that's that easy.
No. I think no Safe and Rain Pro, I

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think they're pretty fucking good.
Rob just left. Yeah, Rob's just gone.
Yeah, Rob's just gone. He's like, what the fuck?
I'm out. I'm not saying they're not good,
I'm just saying that like. That was the easiest.
What I'm saying, no, My point being, I think a lot of the
groups that Copham Cup were kindof like that.

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That's that's what I'm that's mypoint.
I don't think they're even that much easier.
I just think a lot of the groupswere a little.
I'm happy we had the 10 off lines is all I'm saying.
Y'all want me to tell? OK, We we I'm sure we all agree.
Who's on winners of this group bro?
I think it's going to be unanimous.
What? Well, out on you might out on
you might you, might be a littleyou.
Already said of our opinion. You tell us.
Tell us. OK, I got I got Noah and winners

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and NL and losers. That OK here.
How about this? JB has beaten Noah the past
three showings this year. Straight 32O and three one.
Tournaments. Tournaments.
The qualifiers like the World Warriors and offline for one of
them. I lost the page.
I got to pull it back up. But yeah, I think it was also
one of them was offline. Noah only won the very first

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tournament and early Street Fighter six like a month after
release. That's it.
And J BS beaten, beating beaten him every single time since
then. I know, that's interesting that
JB beats Noah and Kev loses to. Kev loses to.
JB. Understands.
I would say Kev is stronger thanJB in my opinion.
You know JB is got like 2. Interesting.

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But JB is of that mind. Like JB, you know what I'm
saying? He's a little Noah in him.
That's a great point actually. Yeah.
I still would say you know the same way that command grab
character players are like better at no offense out on
y'all don't. Y'all don't give a fuck anyway.
That's on the that's on the crazy, the wrong command ground

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player. Command ground players.
I mean, you feel I. Mean.
Kind of I, I think, I think Noah, honestly, I don't think
that the moment, like I don't think he can, he's going to be
able to process the significanceof the fucking moment, which is
good. Yeah, literally.
He's going to play the he's going to play like that.

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I do think on paper JB is favorite.
I I understand. Like looking at Noah going into
Capcom cup is actually not like his brain won't allow him to
feel nervous. I do completely understand.
That people that you want to play at Capcom Cup bro. 100%
one. 100% but he's one of the last.
But I'm paper JB wins on paper 100%.

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But OK, but us knowing the game outside of the game, if you had
the side bet on that match up, JB crunk up first or two.
I picked JB. I'm still I'm with Brian on this
one raw. I think JB, you know where you
know where. I do pick Noah though.
I pick Noah over NL. They have an even record 323211
each. I pick I pick Noah over NL like

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Captain Cup for sure. Myra.
You know, and they'll be all sweating and 1:00.
Night. Yeah, Noah, NL is stressed out
of his mind. Every match, every moment in
that shit, Every. Between every round, he's every
round. So I I think JB got it.

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Sports psychology and all that yeah I I I definitely got Noah
and winners and I and either NL or JB and losers, but I'm.
All right, well, we got we got two out of three for JB winners.
So I'm going to put JB, you got out voter Rob.
So so losers end out of the restof the people.
Noah was my original pick for winners, but when Rob told me JB
beat him like every time ever since, I was like I I can't go

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against it. Then Rob told I got the stats
man. Rob just be going on straight
fields. Punk beat you 75 times in a row
before Cap Punk and then you whooped his ass that cap on.
Good. Yeah, but that's also
psychological profiling here. I don't think in groups, JB is
going to like be like, you know,that nervous.

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Well, he's going to be nervous, but it's not going to be the
same thing as grand finals. It's different.
I actually think you're a littlebit less nervous in groups in
grand finals, you know what I'm saying?
No, I'm with Brian. I'm still with Brian.
I got to be with Brian, Rob. So losers all.
Right. Losers.
We got Noah. Well, I would probably call
Noah, yeah, because I think NL will be the other.

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Favorite. I was about to.
Say calm your ass down bro. Noah's is good against all the
like the Asian players too I feel like bro.
He was no Noah is no yo. He was beating everyone's ass at
Kumate. Would anyone else beat in
Training World? Would anyone else beat JB in
Winners? How about that to to settle the
record between them? Would anyone else give JB a hard

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time? If we can't find one then it's
got to be JB Winners. And they'll can.
I can see JB beating NL two yeah, I can see JB just beating
everyone OK then I yeah, JB winners know a loser.
So I think that's that's how it is.
But if no one gets winners, I would not be surprised either.
All. Right.
No, don't cover your ass now. Real.

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But that means that means JB wins Cochran Cup.
Yeah, by by my. Logic JB wins if.
He wins cup, that'll be got like.
We'll have to see. All right, Group C, this one.
You don't even want to ask me this one, brother.
It's common sense. Common sense cockatoo, baby.
Let's go. Oh wait, is this the first time

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all three of us disagree? Oh shit, Tujito makes out all
their winners? What the fuck?
You don't know who I was. You don't know who I was going
to say. Come on, Rob.
You're thinking, Kevin, I know you're thinking.
He's going straight to John BM. No Rob.
Rob I. Mean.
Yeah, Rob would go straight to John BM.

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I'm going bro, I'm not going to lie, I got the most consistent
1. He got to be like top five most
consistent players this year this season.
But. Dual Kevin.
Not tested against international, not tested
against international competition this year like that.
EWC. And he did great.
But who did he beat? He beat MENA Rd. and Jen.

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No, he beat Mamochi. He beat.
Oh yeah, you're right. LCQ he coached.
Yeah, yeah, he fucking. Coached.
You're right. I'm tripping.
I'm tripping. I'm tripping.
Yeah, no, I'm tripping. I saw a few opportunities to
play those players. Yeah, he beat them.
All Oh yeah, he beat Stuto yeah,I.
Think I killed? Everybody.
Hell yeah, Kev. I'm tripping but Kakadu do that

(26:57):
shit on the regular. Kakadu does that on the regular.
Like all those people you just mentioned.
Kakadu beats every other week, Imean.
How often do they get to they get to play them a million
times. Camp only got to play them how
many times he beat them. OK, that's what I'm saying.
He does it. You know, I'm a I'm a camp fan
boy as well. I'm just saying like just they
have more reps just by the the geographical reality, you know

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what I mean? Like he's disadvantaged in that
situation. That's a gift and a curse.
You're gonna do remember, because they also don't don't
get to play against you. That's a that's a benefit, too.
I remember bro. I don't think knowing what Kev's
gonna do helps you because Kev is just so solid.
It like just doesn't matter. I remember.
Well, who is it? I'm tripping.

(27:42):
Marine. Remember.
Marine beat Dogre. Yeah.
Yeah, that ain't that. Ain't that ain't Kakadu though.
I mean and I mean respectfully. Wait, who'd be cockadoo at Evo?
Who? That's a random machine it.
Was a random machine. That's true.
That's true. Like 33rd at like ECT or some
shit. And I was like it's it's not

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going to work. I don't think Cockadoos make it
out of this group. Oh.
Really. I think he's looking in good
form right now. Really good form.
I think it's going to be Taquitoand Kevin.
Oh, shit. OK, yeah.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah.
Zengi Pilato though, landmine, insane landmine right there.
You don't I, I think for this group, you gotta look at the

(28:24):
matchups like who's gonna, who'sgonna be the monkey wrench to
ruin someone's run? Cause in my opinion, I think
Ziggy Bilotto is gonna be the guy that fucks up this bracket.
And it's gonna be some weird situation with like game
differential. He's not gonna make it out, but
he's gonna. Yeah, I I think it's going to be
a weird shit where like it's going to be 2-3, two players and

(28:45):
the guy who lost to the other guy actually gets out of
winners. So it's a game differential.
I bet it's going to be some weird situation as a Zingy
Pilato. I agree with that.
So I think we have to look at like who's Zingy Pilato going to
upset Kev, Tokido or Kakadu? I think he beats Kev, right?
Is it what what Zingy dual Kevin?

(29:05):
Is it MENA Rd. Or is it or?
Or is it the character? What do you think?
Yeah. I think it's it's MENA remember,
I don't remember the exact details but that cream city MENA
did some like crazy ass super like some fucking wild ass.
I forgot that you remember. I was talking about Adam.
He hit him with some crazy shit like a neutral or something.
Some, like MENA, only type shit.I don't, I don't see that.

(29:29):
I don't remember the details. I'd ask Kev, but I, I, I don't.
He does like drive rush cancel from light into level 1 often.
He's hit Kev with that at at Street Fighter League at
minimum. Yeah, I see somebody on Earth
have been as level one. It was a great read.
Yeah. Because.
He he, he baits out, you know, everyone does DPOS and Dr. Rush
cancels and Kev does that every time because his reactions are
perfect and he he'll do like Stan Lykic drivers canceled in

(29:53):
level 1 and he'll catch your DP out of the air.
So he does not. It is on three O Kev at ECT.
See what I'm saying? There's a Zangief problem here.
That's this is what I'm talking about.
The matchups is what's going to count here.
That might be a problem. Yeah but y'all got me fucked up

(30:15):
Dual Kevin Winters side. And I'm saying no, I think, I
think that means dual Kevin losers in my opinion.
I think I, I, I think with just the stats.
What, so you got Taquito not making it out?
Dan Brown. Yeah.
Yeah, or keto, not making it out.
Well, no, I'm. I'm.
I'm debating Kakadu Taquito. My heart's with Kakadu.
But now I got to think matchups.I can see duel Kevin making

(30:37):
losers in taquitos and winners. You see, you can't on my side,
Ryan, I like it. You know what?
So yeah, so so that's is that how it landed Taquito winners?
I just don't think dual Kevin's winners.
That's my I, I I just can't see that.
I mean, I can't see it. But with the the Zengy problem
is is but. To be fair, we haven't seen

(31:00):
Zengy. But he beat Kobeyan and that LCQ
also he beat Kobeyan. He beat Kobeyan, he beat his ass
I think. But Lotto got top like 4 or?
5. He beat, he beat like Big Bird
and Lex on the way there and he almost beat Kusanagi.
They had a six set. It was really, really good.

(31:21):
So Zhengi Belotto's nice. The names Kev has beat this
year, I mean this season are youcould put him up against anybody
in the on the plane. You could, absolutely.
His resume. Torpedo and Cockatoo as well,
right? Kakunu is the point leader out
of Japan, brother. Like you, You get what I'm
saying? Like that dude?
And he got second to paying Kobe.

(31:42):
Kobeyan's the guy who got first.Kakadu got second.
So from the beginning of second in Evil Japan, from the
beginning of the year till the end, Kakadu has been the most
consistent Japanese player. Hey Brian last, what was the the
last the most consistent Japanese player?
Oh, Kevin fucked him up and his name was Kobeyan.
That was one of the last that was that was a mega events.

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He was the mega event and he wasthe most consistent and he was
the favorite to win the tournament and Kev beat his ass.
That's all I'm saying. Correlation does not imply
causation, but I'm just saying. You're not wrong.
I mean Kev could do it for sure.I could see Kev going mad far,
but it's just this is a stack group.
I mean, at least those 3, right?So I, I feel like, I feel like

(32:25):
you're, you're really not like giving Bilotto his credit.
I like I said, I definitely think Zangy Bilotto could.
He. Could make it out.
It's not impossible, but he wouldn't be my favorite.
I feel like his only bilotto. Zangy Bilotto.
'S only struggle. Matchup is going to be Cocker
because I think he could definitely beat Tokyo as well
he's. Like the Super?
Landmine yeah I think on I thinkmatchup wise's characters I

(32:45):
think it's Ken Terry, JP most likely and then Rashid can I
think Zingy does good against all those characters except for
JJP right so that's why I'm saying I think Zingy Pilato is a
real big monkey wrench here for for everybody.
This is tough. This is a tough one to call.
I. Do agree with that it's not the

(33:07):
craziest thing ever if he even made it out with losers.
No, he was. He was sick too.
He was super fun to watch. So we got to pick something,
though. What?
What? What are we doing winners?
I can't we. Said we said so.
Well, I got Kev. I'm going to a keto.
I'm going to a keto. OK, so now, losers.
You're saying Kev, Rob, you're saying Kev also.

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All right, fuck it, let's go. That's crazy, though.
Kaku not making out of groups. That's crazy.
All right, Group D. Yeah, you don't.
You don't. No ball, Brian.
I don't. I don't think any.
I don't think anybody's no ball.This shit's going to be jobbie.
I'm inhalable for all we fuckingknow.
All right, broski. Bravery, VX bow blahs.

(33:48):
Some scrub and armperer. Yeah, I'm not going to lie like
that. Scrub, Yeah.
Like that scrub making out of winning bro no bias.
That scrub's on a hot streak right now.
I I heard he complaints too muchthough.
I don't know. I don't know if he's mentally
sound. I don't know if he's ready.
In all seriousness, looking at Ithink so in order the strength

(34:10):
in this group, I would say probably VX, bow, Arperer, Blas,
bravery broski. I don't.
Most likely this group, this group's a sleeper, tough group.
This group is fucking hard, actually.
Yeah, Rob you. Don't even play this game
anymore are. You no this group, this group

(34:30):
balance this deal. Don't don't pull that card on
me. IDZ.
What do you mean we got 50 billion matches in with each
other in our lifetime? That's fine, that's fine.
That's a billion. Matches.
Listen, I honestly, in this match, I mean in this group, OK,
we need to think about this one.This too hard?

(34:50):
This one's hard. It's balanced as fuck.
Yeah, this is one of the most balanced groups, bro.
Key, this is a sleeper hardest fuck group to to make it out of
like I think this group's prettystacked at blahs.
I'm like really wondering what he's going to do.
I was I'm I keep you know, Ross heard me talk about him all
fucking weekend like he's so impressive, but obviously we
haven't seen him that much against, you know, top tier

(35:12):
international players. So it's going to be really
interesting to see and Arbor. I don't know how to gauge him
right. Like he did really fucking good
at kings of the world. He had some weird matchups along
the way. He had some dolson matchups.
I don't know, like I I don't know how I feel about his level.
He seems really strong, but I don't know where I would compare
him to the other offline qualifiers.

(35:32):
For example. I still don't know enough.
That was his first big result. He had couple of relative like
just OK performances leading up to that.
So it's hard to call there. Too, Adam, how's Menon's
matchups and. I mean if VXI like fighting JP

(35:55):
with Menon so if VX valve plays JPI feel like I'll be Bison.
That's Bison. Yes.
It's not. It's not bad, I mean I felt like
if I just avoid like the ken.exefrom on for I got a pretty good
shot. Well, BLAS has Ken, BLAS has
Ryu. Ed What?
Do you think? That's a gift and a curse bro.

(36:17):
Does anyone OK? Oh question.
As far as seriously playing these characters, like I really
play these in tournament all thetime.
Has somebody won Cup that is playing that strategy at that at
that time, not I can play the cast.
MENA, Well, he didn't play the cast, but he played two, he
played multiple, he played birdie.
It was mostly Luke the second time, but he didn't play.

(36:40):
It was one match with Birdie. No, I'm saying that's actually
like playing like 3 characters at cup.
I don't. Think you ever need 3 characters
I feel. Like I don't think so either.
Where I think only. Two, I would say his main is his
main is Ed and then secondary Ryu is what I would argue.
But yeah, he does play a lot. But I think when it comes like

(37:04):
time to buckle down as those two, the fact that.
You got to ask that. Well, 'cause he, he's so much,
he beats the shit out of his region, you know what I'm
saying? Like, he can, he can afford to
kind of experiment, 'cause he kind of beats the shit out of
the people in Chile. So like, when it comes time to
lock in, I'm assuming it's goingto be mostly Ed.

(37:24):
I'm assuming but I don't know. OK but his group I'm shit y'all
can guess first on this? Shit, yo, how do you feel about
like Aki or Cami Adam? I play bravery a lot.
I feel like I just I know how tobeat bravery and broski.
I don't know, I feel I feel likeMenando's good versus Aki.
It's just like if I don't get throw loop, I should be all

(37:47):
right. What's what's what's the last
Aki that beats you? NA who who got you in a big
tournament? I don't no, no TNS count them
all. Any any of the weeklies you lose
to like a campaign or like who? Who are the other ones?
There's a handful, all right. Carson is, but it was like 3 two

(38:08):
or something. He got like it wasn't anything
like to scoff out. I mean, I got throw a loop.
What do you want me to do? Yeah.
Then your cooked brother broski not even go to calico come
anyone could get. I'm just saying I guess losing a
profit at ECT. But you know I got.

(38:29):
You saw that match, bro. Yeah, but that.
Makes sense. Yeah, you got the run back on
profit, but he got you in the first one.
That's all you got. Okay, broski broski sweep.
Bro at that point. We might as well just be
flipping cold. Right now.
Broski is looking really good, not going to lie.
I mean, he always streams rankedand he's always like beating up
on the same pool of players, buthe keeps beating them like

(38:49):
harder and harder, you know whatI mean?
Like I've been watching the the past couple months.
It's like, yeah, he's actually just getting like he's just
starting to win easier and easier.
You know, it's the same 12 people over and over.
But I actually, I'm kind of looking at Broski.
He looks like really informed right now, so I don't fucking
know. That's a tough ass.

(39:10):
That's a tough ass coin, bro. That's a tough coin.
All right, no bias. I don't.
I'm not picking blah, all right?I'm not picking blahs.
He's fucking 15, bro. I don't get it.
You know it's so. True.
Rob. I'm actually with Rob on that
one. They're going alright.
He's 15. That's true.
OK, that's true. It's the principle.
It's the principle. We got to earn that I.
I, I, I, I take blahs out. I don't think bravery, I don't

(39:32):
know bravery could surprise people.
But stop the bullshit. I don't think you.
Keep. Trying.
To. Be so goddamn nice.
We love bravery. Bravery's nice.
All right? Cut out blahs.
Cut out bravery. So broski.
Big spout idom arborer. So who are we chopping next?

(39:54):
Uh oh. Keep it a buck, bro, Keep it a
buck. Bro uh oh idom are you?
What do you think? Why are you asking?
Me. I mean, I'm not chopping myself.
What the fuck I'm talking. Keep it a buck chopping.
Broski I'm I'm chopping broski too bro.
You think? So I don't know, I think Broski
might have it over Being's bow. I'm serious.
I'm dead serious. I.
Don't. I can't stand Brian.

(40:15):
What he beat fucking Shaohai at last showing?
You say you might take out because you because when you do,
that leaves room for people not to be mad at you.
I want to God damn. What are you talking about?
Remember when Punk popped up? Remember when Punk popped off on
us and he was like, I'm the definition of clutch?
We need to God damn. But we got to put our nuts on
the table, Brian. How much?

(40:36):
What are you talking? How much would we have to
disrespect Broski for him to come anywhere near talking like
that? That's right, we'd have to sit
here and insult his entire lineage to get an ounce of that
much pop up out of him from a win.
What are you talking about? That's not my end goal at all.
No, I'm serious. Broski's had a fucking Goodyear

(40:57):
dude. He's been beating all these
international players at the oneor two tournaments he goes to.
He's beat the shit out of him. So like I I honestly can.
And he knows Bison very well. Like I can honestly see Broski
taking over VX Bow for example. I honestly see.
That oh, so who you chopping? That we both got broski?
Who you chopping next? Bow or broski?
I mean, if you're trying to idol, if you're both chomping,

(41:19):
I'd rather chomp. I'd rather chomp.
I'm just saying. Oh, really?
OK. OK, I.
Mean. One of these players is playing
Menon and the others are playingKen Aki and and Bison.
That's that's what I'm looking at, to be quite honest.
That's that's all I'm saying. But both of you are cutting

(41:42):
Broski. If you both cut broski, I'm
outvoted. What?
What is your vote? I would have cut IDOM right
here. That's that's what I'm sorry.
I just I'm just that's what I'm just got an IDOM.
OK, OK. No, OK.

(42:04):
Yo, I is Ron talking? Shit, no I don't.
I mean no, I. Mean yo, that's your opinion.
You got it right. I think you could win, but if I
had to, you picked Manon, man, I'm just saying.
He didn't even cut you like and 3rd he don't even got you making
third place. He cut you.
What he's saying, you might as well not even go to Japan.
Look, I'm when I'm looking at this, I'm doing it based on

(42:27):
matchups and stats. I think Adam could win, but I'm
just saying I don't. Manon does not inspire
confidence you. You think he's like a percentage
over bravery and skill, is what you just said.
I think he's like, like, like you think he's like half a level
over bravery. Yeah, like .001% over over

(42:50):
Blossom. He like you want Capcom cut but
I'm. Right, right, right.
You know. No, I don't.
I mean, listen, if you maybe we'll give idom his definition
of clutch right now. I think idom could take it, but
I don't know I I I match up wise.
But if you guys vote for Broski then it's being Spout idom
arperer. OK, now.

(43:14):
I'm taking an emperor. I think, I think, you see, I
think you could beat Armperer easier than some of these other
people. I don't really, I feel like, I,
I feel like I'm very comfortableversus like a lot of the
characters minus Kennedy, because, you know, I just got to
avoid, you know, for a dry brush.
Yeah. Hold on before I decide my next

(43:38):
pick. Are you?
Are you pulling up with a different character at all?
Rob or yeah, No Rob, I've actually only been playing, but
on I have not been. Playing any other character.
All right, you all right? You eliminated nigga.
I'm thinking armed word #1 and VX Powell losers.
What? What do you think?
I I think I think VX bow winnersaren't were losers.

(44:01):
You know, my original pick was idom winners VXL loser.
So all right, all right, VXL winners then.
Damn, this is cold. This is cold.
I want to put you idom. Me too, yeah.
Please spite, please spite us. I want to see it.

(44:24):
Better drop a surprise. He could win.
I don't could fucking win, dude.I can see I don't beating VX
bow. I can see I don't beating
everybody in this group quite honest.
Me too. I I just don't trust, you know,
that character. That's what I'm saying.
It's just like that's that's howI'm I'm trying to be logical
here with just matchup wise, butat.
Least I put him. At least I put him third though.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean low.

(44:46):
Key. I caught him first.
I mean, I saw him. I mean you.
Put him way back, man. You put me under bravery.
That's fucked up. Ryan Nah, you're going to.
No, I'm not putting him under bravery.
Don't worry. Don't worry that I I have a bit
more faith than you than that. All.

(45:06):
Right Group E Mr. Crimson Diver,Futo Limestone Limestone Chris
CCH MENA Rd. Is there a question here on
winners? I have a hot.
Take to to make it all and losers, not a winners.
I think we all agree on the winners one, do we?

(45:27):
OK. What?
What's your hot take? Well, I think.
Mena's making out in winter. Me too.
I think I'm winning, MENA. Too, But that's that food
though. You got food though, not making
out this group out home. Yeah, I do.
I have food on not making out the group.

(45:48):
Whoa. Who's who's stopping food?
What do you think? Crimson.
Yeah, I don't know for the Dolson, that was amazing.
I don't know about Ed versus Dolson.
It's it's kind of funky. I don't know about that one.
So it depends. I I don't know what Crimson
thinks, right. That's one of those ones where

(46:09):
it's like you kind of need the perspective of some people real
deep in that and you know, food is going to know the Dolson
matchup. They they actually play SIM.
They got some nice ass Sims out there.
So is Crimson going to know thatmatch at that level?
I mean, they have Andy Walker over there and you know, Andy
Walker playing like 24/7. So I definitely think Crimson

(46:29):
probably knows the Ed match up pretty well.
Crimson's also with me versus everyone else.
There's three Eds. So to be clear, guys in this
group, divers Ed, Futo's Ed and Christy Chapter's Ed Limestone
plays Ken. I just wanna keep.
Fucking. And then diver plays dead.
Yeah, there's three Eds, so that's a big.

(46:50):
If you solve the Ed matchup, that's a big that's your ticket
out of the group. Essentially losers at least
minimum. He don't know it by now.
Kid. That's hard.
That might be. Yeah.
Nah, I got to have I I'm gonna say Mina Fudo.
Fudo also playing. Sid yeah, do Fudo be beating

(47:11):
Mina y'all? Fudo beat Mina, lost outcome
coat. That was his roadblock.
He played when he played DJ right out of groups, Futo
eliminated MENA from Captain Cupand that was a sick match, but
it was DJ, right? It's a whole different meta
right now. So Futo historically has beaten
MENA, but I don't, I don't thinkthey've played since then.
So in my opinion, I, I think it's between MENA and FUTO for

(47:31):
winners, but that's not free forMENA.
I don't think this is free at all.
I agree no that no. If somebody wanted to have futo
winners IA 100% will see that too.
I'm going to get men at the edgeas just as the two time but.
Right. You know, Chris has been playing
really fucking good lately too, but he's kind of, he's been
playing a lot of Terry. Yeah, he's been, you know, Ed

(47:54):
got nerfed and he instantly started hopping to Terry.
He's been playing a lot of Terry.
And I think there's a bit of concern there in my, in my heart
about him, like not believing inhis character.
He keeps doing this. They get they get nerfed a
little bit and he jumps ship immediately and Hysteria's good.
Hysteria's really good, but I don't think Terry is anywhere
near as good as Ed. Still I'm.

(48:15):
Telling you bro, people with hella characters is a is a
weakness bro I'm telling you. Well, look at MENA.
If you if if you seriously plan him, but he's a rare case, I
I'll say he's different. Do you?
Do you? Think that Brian.
I feel like MENA just locks in on 2 characters per season.
It's not like he's playing like.Yeah, I agree.
He's kind of dropped Luke, right?

(48:37):
Like more? Yeah.
He doesn't really play Luke anymore.
He really playing. He really playing Blanca and
fucking Geef? Geef yeah, I mean it's mostly.
Geef, that's what he really plays.
It's really Geef. And there's some Blanca.
Yeah. So it's really two.
Yeah. So Chris has that issue, I
believe. I'm not playing No fucking Terry
and cut bro. He might, he he might.

(49:00):
He's been playing a lot of Terry.
He's been doing pretty good in NA stuff.
But like, yeah, I it might be that might be the problems that
he shifted his focus because I think I still think Ed's better
than Terry. So, all right, all right, what
are we saying for winners? I'll say I got.
I'm gonna say MENA. I think it's MENA.
Yeah, MENA. I'll go MENA for the clutch of

(49:21):
actor. I mean, I, I I think he's
clutch. I can get get the job done.
That means fudo losers. We don't see anyone causing an
upset. No Christie chapter, no Crimson
limestone diver. Nah.
Well, yeah, I got a whole mile. This is fudo.
Fudo Yeah, I'm telling you you guys, but I'm.
Going to say. I'm going to say.

(49:41):
Fudo beeping on. Crimson, I'm telling you, I
think yeah, I kind of like Crimson a little bit.
It might come down to Mr. Crimson and Fudo against each
other match up wise. All right, You're you're
outvoted. We got Fudo all right.
Menardi, Fudo Group F Shit's getting serious.
Big Bird Oil King CN, you know, Yuriel, Valorio, Jack and

(50:05):
Lashar. What the fuck?
We're entering like insanity territory.
This one is fucking insane. This the one that you fucked up,
Brian? Not to like, bring it back.
You got you got a history here, Rob.
This is this is that bad juju? We keep bringing this up.
Damn. Every group F has just been your

(50:26):
fault. That's the lore.
No, he's the only common. Denominator.
The only common denominator is Rob, so I I think it's obvious.
Bro I'm not going to lie lookingat this.
Shit. I think the hardest thing to
decide is who's in winners and who's in.
Well, I ain't gonna lie. No, we don't know who's in this
group. I think.
No, we do. We know who's to talk to with

(50:47):
this group, bro. It's got it's with Shore and Big
Bird. They're the favorites, but who?
But who? But who are the like?
What's the big monkey wrenches? Well there's two Rasheeds.
CN got DJ Uriel and Ken Jack on Jury.
Does Jury mess with any of thesecharacters?
Not really. Not really.

(51:07):
They all play fine against Jury,so Jack might not be the monkey
wrench. What about DJ?
DJ versus Rasheed? How's that?
I I know Rashid struggles to answer your DJ, but I don't know
if she is going to jump. But I don't know.
I feel like Sheehan hasn't been playing like as like he gets in

(51:29):
the cap. Yeah, he's not playing like he's
not, you know, 2020, 13/20/13. She had a 2014.
She. He's like, yeah, yeah.
He's like, he's like, I'm here. They put out on Versus Vortex a
little documentary about him, like qualifying for Capcom Cup.
And it was narrated by Mike Ross.
And shit, maybe nearly shut a tear, but it was kind of like

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about him struggling to get in and like getting older.
And people are catching up because, you know, bravery
qualified via points and CNN lost and had to go to the
regional finals and then barely get in.
It's like we're watching. We're watching lizards.
Jordan before our very eyes. Yeah, our our goats are getting
old. That motherfucker wizard Jory

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and. He knows that CN got second at
the very first Captain Cup too and that was the closest he ever
got the first one. Sheesh.
But he did. How did he do last one?
He got out in winners last time from his group 5 O and he lost
32 to Lashar. Actually he had a, he had a good
showing, but he didn't make, he didn't make top eight.

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He got, he lost 3232 last Captain Cup.
That's brutal. Getting out in winners 5 O then
3232, that's tough. That's what happened to.
That's what happened to WHO lastyear.
CN. He'd be fudo.
Yeah, he he played, he was playing actually a really good
last Captain Cup. But let's just, you know, didn't

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get ahead and DJ is worse now. Yeah, DJ is.
Much worse now I, I, I think it's just big Bird Lashar.
I feel like it's kind of hard toreally throw a throw a wrench.
Here. I agree.
Yeah, but. Doesn't.
Doesn't. Big bird usually have trouble in
in cup or am I remembering wrong?

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No, you're right. I think he's done that every.
Yeah, I think he's done that. He.
Usually. Underperforms in cup every time.
Yeah, so I'm still going to predict him that I, I, I, he's
so good on paper that I got to still put him up there.
I got Lashar and Winners and BigBird.
And set count, it's 21, Lashar. Lashar won the last time they

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played, 32 at the mix of 2024. So it was close, but Lashar took
it last time. So yeah, I, I, I would favor
Lashar a little bit too. Lashar's been so good this year.
I think Big Bird, you know, he had the 2nd place at EVO, but
Esports World Cup he didn't do that good either.

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Lashar's personality type bro, you know, I think me and you
talk about this type of stuff Brian, but like I feel like
players like Lashar like mentally at more.
I don't know, Stoic is the word I use, but they're.
Steady. Yes, yes, just being very steady
like that. Those guys do better in big
tournaments versus, you know, I think Big Bird.

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I mean, I know with Big Bird, he's great in the clutch too.
Amazing in the clutch. He already.
Even tweeted out take a big. Breath in.
Remember last year Big Bird madea tweet that I hated?
I have I meant to bring this up to him before a cup and he was
like all right, hopefully I don't get or something like I
don't ruin it in cup again or something like that.

(54:46):
Bro, you don't want to talk? He already made the tweet.
He already made the tweet, he said after the group draw was
complete, he said, I'm going to go 32 and get eliminated because
of one literal game difference for the third year in a row,
right? So he already he brought it up
again. You know, but.
But but that's what happened to him.
Because remember, it was last Captain Cup for Street Fighter
Five. You know, you were there, Rob,

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Right. Mono beat Big Bird or something
like that, which allowed. Mono wasn't going to make it
through no matter what, through groups.
But because he beat Big Bird, itallowed Mochi.
Yeah, it allowed. Yeah, Monochi.
Yeah. It allowed Mochi to get through,
which knocked Big Bird out, Right.
So Big Birds already kind of OS or sad tweeting a little bit
like. Yes, that's not good to me.

(55:28):
Like I really take that serious.I really think that that's not
good. But you know, I'm big on sports
psychology when I'm going to compete in bro.
So I I I got Lashar and winners and big burden losers.
I kind of agree. What do you think I?
Got DZ? Yeah, I I think it was the same
way, but I I'd like to be provenwrong because like I said, I
think there's a lot of good players in this group.
I think I think it's probably like the third hardest group

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here. There's a lot of good players in
that group. 3rd hardest type machine.
You've been typing all these 11 fucking word names and you've
been having a backspace every goddamn time.
Listen, don't mess with my execution.
Right here. All right man, aren't you like a
coder or? Something not on this keyboard,
not the streaming keyboard is where all the typos come out.
Wait, wait, Adam, you said thirdhardest.

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What's the what's your top 2? G&H.
You think H is harder than F? Yeah.
What? We kind of G and AG and A is
actually hard. A is hard too.
Yeah, they're all hard, but. Yes, but over it.

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Even even a could be over FI. Don't know.
Well, it it depends on how you're doing your your summation
here. You get what I'm saying.
Like if you count, if you're adding up everyone's skill
level, like a stat point punk and some heavy names carry so
much weight. I can understand that.
But the average level of F is sohigh.
You get what I'm saying? And like we just we glossed

(56:55):
over. First of all, we glossed over
oil King. Shout out to oil King, by the
way. Like we didn't even mention him
in this analysis. First of all, that could be oil
King could cause some shit to happen.
Even Japan champion. You know, he he he does a thing,
right? But you're saying over a on
average, you know, Rob said. There's plenty of time.

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Phenom's always the most underrated player in all these
CPT events. Like Phenom's so good.
I'm talking about, you know, what's going to Takamura
Salvatore hot dog. Salvatore like God bless them.
And Takamura, yeah, they're all good.
Everyone here, there's no bad players in.
Captain Cup Good. Yes, but like, I don't want, I

(57:37):
don't want to be rude. I'm gonna let you go.
All right, well, I think the most stacked is Group G for
sure. I don't even put fucking Group H
in here. What am I doing?
Yeah, but Group G. You said you said you you got
Group G has the most stacked. I I think Group G is the
hardest, yeah, GGG is the hardest, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, you might be right. Yeah you might be motherfucking

(57:59):
right. Group G is crazy bro.
Y'all might be shocked at my Group G picks to be honest but
we should just break shit down 1st.
Juicy Joe kills you, Xiaohai Kaba, knuckle do and nephew for
Group G this shit is. I want to say that the big, the

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big, Hell no. Hell no.
I'm a believe in dark nephew. Whichever way you cut it, that's
a bad motherfucker, bro. Nefco.
I mean, he's stressing about theguiles.
Yeah, yeah, I know. What's the actual record?
Let me I'm going to pull up a nephew Knuckle do like, you

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know, he's sweating the matchup and I know on paper that shit's
not good for jury, but I wonder what the actual stats say.
I mean, they probably played a million times in all these
online brackets. So yeah, I don't have the online
bracket set count. I wish I had that.
It's been yeah, it's been Knuckle do cooking Red Bull
kumite, right Do kind of beat the crap out of nephew.

(59:09):
Also. I think he played Ant there.
He played Ant there for yeah. He was that desperate though.
So nephew, nephew, nephew probably fucked in or how's
Kaaba versus nephew? What's looked at it?
I. Don't know if they have this
many games. I wish this had the TNS stuff
because I actually don't know the record.
Like from the weeklies? Do y'all know how how Kaaba
versus nephew usually? Go it's 11 ECT.

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Nephew lost Akaba before top 8 and then three OD Kaba on top
eight. Oh I forgot about that.
Yeah nephew got the run back andthen nephew also.
Actually he the same thing happened to nephew at a
Singapore. Now that I'm thinking about it,
Higuchi didn't. Higuchi put him in losers and
then nephew won the run back andhe qualified out of there.

(59:53):
Am I? Am I am I tripping?
Isn't that what happened? No Nephew did lose to Higuchi
though, at CPT Singapore. OK.
So yeah, Higushi beat him twice actually this year with Kyle.
So overall, in the big showings,Kyle's kind of been a thorn in
nephew's side. He said nephew said he has no

(01:00:15):
real win on due. That's crazy.
OK, yeah, he not he not going tobe due at this event then he not
beating him. And then what about, Oh, go
ahead, I, I think Juicy Joe. I He's such a sleeper.
Fit because this JP is sick. I actually love watching.
I'm a big juicy Joe fanboy. Yeah, I like, I like people who

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do like weird shit with their characters.
But I do think it's a hard group.
But and I I think if dude was just like locked into Kyle, he
could do it. But he's probably going to play
like Cammy or, you know, his hisDJ or some shit.
So it's kind of kind of hard to call, but I mean, dude just had
that clip, right? The dude just had that clip

(01:00:58):
versus Kaba. Where what, what did he do?
He he he quit. He got random level 2 with Cami
and on accident, probably executioner.
Then he just rage quit in the tournament and I think he was
getting like 3 OD by Kaba recently.
You know, we're we're talking about battle for the best guile.
I feel like in some of the showings, you know, Cobb is
already kind of pulling ahead a little bit, which is just I

(01:01:20):
that's maybe more motivation fordude to lock in.
But there's a little bit of recent history which kind of
shows Cobb against some wins. How how's the how's how's
Bison's matchups in in this fellas?
This looks good, I think, right?I think Bison is pretty good
against Kyle in this game. Bison against Jury, I think is
fine. Jay.
Cami's the only one. Cami's the only one that might

(01:01:41):
give him trouble. Yeah.
And. Kills you playing Jury a lot too
actually. So kills you plays Cami and
Jury. He'll probably have to play Cami
against the Giles. This.
This group is fucked up by the way.
I mean. Kills.
You fucked up, I felt like. I felt like if Kills you just
plays Cami the entire way through, he'll be all right.

(01:02:01):
But he played only Jury, isn't am I?
Am I misremembering at at Kings of the World?
You play jury, I think. I think kills you made a tweet
like he plays jury on console and he plays Gabby on PC or
something like that. He's a dry rush aficionado.
Why? Do I have?
Yeah. Kills you beating dude bro.

(01:02:22):
In your mind, I. Don't have kills you beating
dude. Yeah, yeah.
I mean kills you super good. I still.
Remember when we when we did rebel kumite?
In London and I remember Kills you was beating like everyone.
Kills you was giving me trouble when we were playing.
Kills you super good. Yeah, he's been nice for a long
time. Am I the only one that has Xiao

(01:02:42):
Hai and Winters? No, I think Bison is a good
character in this group. So kills you.
Yeah, he could maybe go Cammy, but Bison I think does good
against every every character inthis group.
I think Bison has no trouble against any of this, right?
JP Bison does fine. Any projectiles Bison gets

(01:03:03):
through Jury can kind of rush down Bison, but I think in
general Cycle Crusher kind of blows up the projectile game
plan. I got I got how high winners
bro. I think so too.
Yeah, yeah, I guess. How high winners?
Yeah. Who the fuck's making out

(01:03:25):
losers? I don't know.
I think this is too tough for nephew.
Yeah, yeah, we got to X out nephew.
We have no choice but. To.
X out there's 2 Giles and he hasno like he nephew can play
everybody, but he never he doesn't have his tournament
secondary. Like he could beat 99% of the
world with random select, but for this level of tournament

(01:03:48):
play, he doesn't lock in for a secondary.
You know what I mean? For these big moments, it's
always jury. So this is just two hearts
statistically to give him the losers run right now.
He could do it, but that's not likely.
You know Joe is a sleeper pick here too.
Like you. You cut out Shaohai 2 Giles

(01:04:09):
historically JP be a thorn and guy outside right?
And I think JP against jury that's kind of annoying but can
definitely do it. Kills you with Cami would be the
hardest pick, like the hardest matchup for Joe.
So what kills you get more wins in this group than juicy Joe.
I, I think it's no, I think. It's a toss up.

(01:04:31):
Between kills you and do I thinkthat's really what I'm looking
at kills you and do really OK, but we're saying Xiaohai.
But if you're if we're saying that Xiaohai's probably going to
get wins overdue. Kaba is I think favorite overdue
right now. Just Matt uses historically,
then even then I think kills you.
Do beat Kaba as 3 Potter league.That's true.
I mean, they trade wins, but they trade wins.

(01:04:54):
But I think literally the most recent win is is Kaaba.
I I would favor do historically,but recent momentum, which
doesn't mean much. You're right.
Yeah, I think I would take two over Kaaba, but but what about
Joe? I guess.
I guess 2 will go Cami. That's right.
Yeah, Yeah, he can go Cami. OK, you're right.

(01:05:18):
Knuckle do losers. Yeah, I think Knuckle do.
Then that makes sense. Do as a good two characters,
Cami and Guy. That's a really good, really
good 2 characters to pick. Yeah, I like it.
All right, Knuckle. Who takes it?
Shush. My group is fucked up.
All right? This one's crazy, too.

(01:05:40):
Group H Lex angry. Bird.
Soul, Juni, Neo, Ross, Shuto andKusanagi.
What the hell man? Like it like it's crazy that
Angry Bird is just like the Middle East qualifier, you know
what I mean? Like like that's why he this is
A2 offline qualifier group. Offline and and angry.

(01:06:00):
Birds. And Angry Bird and even Lex too,
like Lex just, you know, got third place or something to Eva
Japan. He's been cooking like that.
That's not a that's not an easy group to call.
I think Angry Bird beat the shitout of Lex recently.
Am I misremembering? Let me pull that up.

(01:06:21):
Let me get the stats. That's hard bro.
I think Lex has akuma problem though.
I think that's why it's kind of hard for me to pick Lex.
I think I I can see Giles struggling versus Akuma because
he has so many error. You you feel like you've seen

(01:06:42):
him specifically or you just sayin the.
Yeah, no, him, him specifically,Angry Bird beat Lex three one at
Eastworth World Cup, so that's pretty dominant.
And then Akuma Shooto. Yeah, Shooto's interesting.
I feel like for as strong as he's been within Japan and
Street Fighter League and stuff,we don't see him internationally

(01:07:04):
hardly ever. And then he did, you know, he
did CPT Singapore, but we don't see him versus NA players hardly
ever from what I can recall. So I don't know how he stacks up
against anyone really. But if you win that fucking
super premier, I mean. You are you fucking God, that's

(01:07:27):
enough. Yeah, that's enough.
Yeah, bro. That that tournament only has
385 players but like the round one matches people were playing
at that tournament were grand finals of like other premieres.
Round one like that shit was nuts.
AM angry bird just got in through the I feel like angry
bird didn't travel as much. No, he got top eight at evil

(01:07:51):
again this year too, though, like he it's not like when he
traveled, he did bad esports World Cup.
He was there. He and he was cooking at esports
World Cup but he lost who who got He got a lost in top 8
right? Tashi Kalo beat him.
That was right. Tashi Kalo made him look
confused. That was so unexpected.

(01:08:12):
He. Didn't.
Do about modern, I think he was saying like modern, like
confusion. Tashi Kabua kind of ran laps
around Angry Bird. I was so shocked to see that.
But there's no aid that leaf. There's no modern players
either, so shoot though at that tournament he beat Jontak,

(01:08:40):
Yuchi, Hot Dog, DCQ, Higuchi, Jen and Nephew.
And he beat some other people and who who say.
It again Brian my bad, who he beat.
John Takayuchi, Hot dog, DCQ Higuchi.
Jen, like the DJ and nephew, theother the Chinese DJ.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Second place Captain Cup.

(01:09:04):
Well, that's actually, that's crazy.
That's both of them. I I try to give you something to
separate Jen from Shen. Yeah, I know which way.
They're talking about they both play DJ and they both got second
place at Captain Cup. That's actually nuts.
That's a crazy stat Honorary. Honorary Canadian Yeah yeah
yeah. Fuck, is there Angry Birds
shooto history? I don't think so, yeah.

(01:09:25):
Shooto is a weird case where I feel like he's been so God like
but never we don't see him against internationals or like
against like the more international traveling players.
Let me see. I don't think he's played Angry
Bird though. I see you in chat saying what
they didn't put NL to go through.

(01:09:45):
The fuck I did. I said Noah first, NL second.
Then they was like no NL sucks at this game.
That's what we said. Those are the words it says no
results. I guess Shuto hasn't played
Angry Bird. I mean, I'm favoring.
We're just. We haven't even talked about
Kusanagi at all. Yeah, I feel like Kusanagi is

(01:10:08):
actually the. Who did Kusanagi beat at at at?
What's his name? He was fucking up Angry Bird at
Street Fighter League. You're up, bro.
It was like, damn. Wait.
He was word. Is is he the one Who?
Is he the one who beat Angry Bird?
He was beating them. I think the reason Kusanagi lost
was because of the team format, but Kusanagi was constantly

(01:10:28):
beating Angry Bird. Wait a minute, Angry Bird.
I thought Angry Bird. Damn near.
I thought he was gonna defeat it.
I'll tell him. Well, man.
And no, in the playoffs. In the playoffs.
Hold on. Let me pull that up.
Hold on. Oh.
That's info right doc? Hold on.
In the in the regular season it was Angry Bird beating everyone,
but in the playoffs I know Kuzunagi beat Angry Bird.

(01:10:53):
Yeah, I think chassis had three hold, Brian.
Kusunagi 3 out. Angry Bird.
In a way. What team was he on in?
I think it was a Crimson team. I don't remember the name.
He's on Aegis. OK, no.
So Kusanagi lost a big bird. I'm looking through the matches

(01:11:14):
right now. That was the first time, Yeah.
And then I he slotted into the last slot.
Bro I'm looking on YouTube he beating the shit out of angry
bird right before my. Wow.
Beating the shit out of him, Yeah, three O this isn't this
isn't grand finals. Yeah, but it was because the way
the team was structured that. The the other team.

(01:11:37):
Didn't get any wins so like the team still lost because Kuzunagi
was the only one who'd be angry Bird but everyone else on the
team lost. Oh no, this nigga Kuzunagi, he
beat the wow. I don't know.
I know this. Yeah.
Kusanagi. Bro you know when a Ryu player

(01:11:58):
just gets doing that little? Over Angry Bird.
Wow bro. Brian hit his ass with the, you
know, the the little Ryu love todo the dash up, dash back,
shimmy shit. Oh yeah.
You know, that's what a nigger feeling himself.
Oh yeah, that's exactly what happened.
Oh yeah, no, yeah, he'd be his. Ass, where's that link?
You got the link. Yeah, I got you.
I'm. Kusi, this one right now, Yeah,

(01:12:19):
Kusanagi's a super. Sleeper Portage.
It's hard. It's hard to pick him because
like I don't know how they do against like Chudo and Lex but
angry. Bird he was doing.
Pretty well against Yeah, this this match was too.
It was like a speed run. This is a first of three 720. 7

(01:12:39):
minutes. First of three, three.
Oh yeah, big shimmy. Look at Oh my God.
Oh, the pick up brother. Yeah, I don't know, man.
OK, so because Angry Bird was mylike, the facto favorite to take

(01:13:00):
this, right? I don't see what about Shudo
Angry Bird? I don't think there's any
matches between them. But yeah, that was a hard pick.
Like, I feel like that one couldgo either way.
Hey, Kustenagi, Really. Three out Angry Bird.
I forgot about this. So his team just let him down.

(01:13:21):
He's going to he's going to win this.
He wins this. Hold on, drop the combo.
No way, No way. Kusanagi fucking wins this.
Oh what that fucking walk up through?
Oh he's he throw loops. Oh my God, Street Fighter 6 yo I

(01:13:47):
did not I I'm sorry. That was a guy.
Whoa, hey, that was a guy like Block because I think Angry Bird
even did delay EXDP and he stillblocked.
That. Wow, OK bro, listen, listen,
it's not just that he beat him, he beat him so bad and it was
grand finals so he beat him. And he did that very important
moment, Yeah. And he did that to Xiaohai too.

(01:14:08):
But he, he that's that's kind ofalmost how he beat Xiaohai.
He'd throw, looped the shit out of him and then woke up DP at
the very end of grand finals. Like that's some, you know, I
hate. T scared his ass so bad.
Kusanagi making out this group Idon't give a damn.
I've seen enough. I got Kusanagi.
Winners I got swayed his opinion.
FSI had saying winners shit it'shard.

(01:14:33):
What's Kyle Re you like? Yeah, I don't think I'm nervous.
I you don't really see that too often.
I feel like that's going to be hard.
Kyle Re you. Well.
Jo Nino I think, I don't know ifhe still plays Luke, but I guess
he can make some noise. I have no idea who's.
He's playing Luke. He's playing Luke.

(01:14:53):
I think that I think that's his main right now is Luke.
Yeah, he plays multiple characters.
I'm I'm trying to think I I likeI said, I don't know who Soul
is. I actually have no idea who Soul
is at all. So well, he's better than he he,
he stole that shit from Travis Styles and ROF.
You know, our, our boys got cooked.

(01:15:14):
They they've been running Australia.
They got there was some shrimp on the Barbie out there.
That's crazy. My man.
He came, he came out of Kuwait, moved to I guess he's in
Australia. I'm not sure exactly though.
He went out of Oceania. And then even then, Freezer, the
Honda player, he was ahead of them in points, ahead of Travis
Styles and ROF and so. But so Freezer got second and

(01:15:36):
Seoul won the whole thing. Bro look, Akuma's health is too
low for a first to two Brian so.Brother, I know that Kuma
player. Is.
Not I'm. Just saying.
Oh his health is low bro. Oh my God.
And and Ashley going to have a shoot shooter going to have a
hard time. But Shuto won a really big

(01:15:58):
tournament with Akuma so he's just that God like.
You had a good day. I mean, he's just that good.
He won with Akuma. He has to be that good, right?
I'm just, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So I'm. Going to say Kusanagi.
I'm going to have to say Kusanagi and winners and Angry
Birds and losers. No, Lex.

(01:16:20):
I know that's a that's a little hot thing.
But. What do you think?
I'd I got, I'd say Kusanagi Shooto.
Kusanagi winners. Yeah, Kusanagi winners.

(01:16:41):
Wow, we got Kusanagi. Winners I.
Like it. I like it.
But you're saying shooto losers an angry bird?
Yeah, shooto losers. I also kind of feel like Akuma
might give Angry Bird trouble. Bro his health is low, come.
On Rob, what you saying? It ain't, it ain't that low.

(01:17:01):
I'm going shoot though. Also, Nah, I got angry Bird.
I got Angry Birds. Yeah, come on, Brock.
OK, good. We got our bracket.
We we got the bracket. Punk JB winners are yeah.
Punk JB winners, Tokido V Expat,Menardi, Lashar, Shao Hai
Kusanagi, and then Edubashi Zangief versus Noah, Dual, Kevin
versus Armpor, Fudo versus Big Bird, and Knuckledoo versus

(01:17:22):
Angry Birds. So I I stole this from the last
year's Captain Cup format. I don't know if they're going to
do it this way, but basically pool A plays pool B and so on
and so forth. C plays D.
So that's that's how it was structured last year.
I don't know if they're going tomix it up or not, but basically
punk JB. That's rough.
That's rough for one one person.Punk Yeah I must say Punk just

(01:17:44):
has a 50,000 and and 0 record against JBII.
Don't think it's as. Free as that?
I really don't I feel like. I don't know.
It used to be, yeah. It used to, I don't know about
now maybe. Let's check.
Let's check. You're right.
I think item he JB did get some recent wins.
Let's see. Yeah, but historically, since
five, it was fucking awful. It usually.

(01:18:05):
Was really bad, yeah. Punk, JB.
Set count 3-1 JB. That was in 2023.
JB won twice, three times in 2023.
JB won Dream Hack Atlanta over Punk in 2023.
And two sets. I knew I wasn't crazy.

(01:18:27):
I was like, I don't think it's that.
Free. I don't.
Understand punk won it in 2024 three O so that's interesting I
still favor punk here I. You know the.
Logistical pick would be to pickPunk, but I got to I got to
stand with my my, my theory, my Capcom Cup theory.

(01:18:48):
So JB winning the whole thing. No, no, no, I'm looking at this
dream hack. I'm looking at this dream hack
and Punk is using Kimberly and fucking Jury and shit at that
dream hack you talking about. Yeah, I guess he might have.
That's kind of that's ancient history.
Yeah, he's using. Kimberly and And what's the

(01:19:08):
name? Yeah.
Yeah, I think Punk has this. I'm.
I'm putting. I'll.
I'll give JB a game. That's Punk.
Tokido. VX bow.
This one. I want a favorite Tokido, but
you never know. What VX bow, man.
What do you guys think? Yeah, it's Bison.
I must. Say, Tokido, but it ain't.
It ain't easy. Yeah, I must say Tokido, but I

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think it'll be like 3-2 Tokido, Tokido play.
Some. And Bison player real early at
dream not DREAM Act, but CPT Singapore am I tripping or that
was DCQ wasn't it wasn't a bison.
I'm I'm, I'm not tripping. Yeah, I'm I'm going to keto as

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well, but. Keto in the Hall of Fame,
brother. That's true.
Can't compete with that MENA Rd.Lashar.
That's messed up. That's messed up right out of
groups. No comment.
No comment. They they played.
Last year and I feel like Lasharbeat them.

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Both times last year. Right, you get out of the Group
of Death again and you got the. Same match.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Lashar kind of cooking in
these situations. You beat.
I think you beat a battle last year.
I don't remember, maybe it was like 3-1 or something or two
one. I mean maybe it was like 2O or
something in Pool, but yeah. And he's playing Ed against

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Zangief or Blanca, and I think Ed does OK against both.
Yeah. You might go Blanca.
I think I got to take. Lashar.
Look, on paper, on paper, I would have to take Lashar The
the reason why we even thinking about this so much is because of
the intangibles. I agree we're.

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Thinking about this because it'sMENA act up, bro yes, and so
that's the it's it's tough to call for me just off of that.
On paper, I would definitely sayLashar, but bro, we saw MENA
just smoke the whole Japan Street Fighter league.
I personally, I'm going, I'm going MENA, I'm going MENA you.

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Had a tiebreaker, Brian. I, I think I'm going Lashar
here. I think level wise recency bias
like lashar is playing so good still and the character matchup
I think Ed might be might be a problem.
It's 3/2 though. I'm going lashar Xiaohai.
I think it's a good point that. That.

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Xiao brings up all that menace coming coming in hot out of the
Ed group. That's that's true.
We did give him the edge in the Edge group, but Lashar?
But. He doesn't plan that, but he's
playing that magic and winning. But then you, yeah, that's still
not a bad. Pick.
That's a good point, but I don'tknow man, Lashar is just inhuman

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to me. I think if Lashar loses any set,
it's just like him playing belowhis level because his peak in
this year has been unreal. Like the moments I've seen out
of him, I'm just more impressed than anybody in the field
currently. So it's it's going to depend on
who's hot for that set. And I'm feeling I'm kind of
feeling the shark. OK.

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The run back though, Kusanagi Xiaohai Kusanagi kind of kind of
cooked. I actually.
Think he wins again. He seems like he tilts Xiaohai,
you know what I'm saying? How?
How did he beat him at the So Kusanagi got into winners?

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Yeah, Xiaohai reset 32 and then Kusanagi won three one, but it's
only one person 3. Yeah, but that other that but
the the the second person 3 counts as more to be fair.
But Xiaohai went to whammy. I'm kind of.
What do you guys think about that?
I wonder if M Bison. Yeah, but M Bison Ryu, wouldn't

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that be an option? I I think he said he doesn't
like playing Bison versus like the the Super throw loop heavy
characters, so like the reusing can.
So yeah, I think that's why we can be And wasn't this pre DP
nerf? Am I mistaken?
My timeline's a little fussy. Yeah, that's pre DP nerf.
That's a big nerf to escape throw loops for sure, and also

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the die pick nerf if his problemis throw loops.
Cami's now weaker against throw loops.
I mean she's still good, but that's another little edge to
Kusanagi in my opinion. And and Kusanagi be throwing.
Yeah, he plays. I think that's his strength is
that he plays the risk reward sowell on Riu's insane fucking

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damage. So you eat those throws forever.
Like he he he boiled the gameplay down to that man.
He gets in there and throws the shit out of you.
I'm going. I'm going to Snoggy.
Yeah, I'm going shout. I'm going shout high bro.
Yeah, he he proved. Himself.
Yeah, bro, EWC was too much. Brother.

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You were there, up close and personal with that one.
You. You felt the power, You felt the
aura. Yeah, that man's aura me a tear
drop out of my goddamn eye. That's how you know.
Yeah. And again like do y'all think
Shahas Cami is as strong as his as his Kenan Bryson?
It's OK. I think he plays all three kind

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of on the same level. I think his most impressive
results have all come from his Canon and Bison.
Not that his game, he's right upthere too, but in my opinion it
feels like his most impressive wins come when he plays those
characters. Are y'all sure?
I mean I it's it's hard to call no matter what but y'all sure
finding Lance or y'all going? And based on the data I'm taking

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Kuzunagi also all. Right, I'm outvoted.
As close. That's crazy if that happens
again. This tournament is fucking
stacked. Dude, if they actually structure
the brackets this way, this is kind of messed up.
Yeah, it's like all the familiarmatchups.
I'm here to see middle. Of short, I really like fuck.
Yeah, that's crazy. Oh shit.
In Abashi Noah, that's the E Sports World Cup run back.

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Yeah, Noah. Gonna.
Win again. Bro Noah cooked I I like Noah.
Yeah, me too. Yeah.
I got Noah 31. He he was getting I, I agree he
was getting those jump pierces on on Ibashi.
Ibashi did not have an answer there.
Remember the dumb ass geef players like oh you got to buff
a geef anti air? You just got to dodge Noah.

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Good luck. Yeah, that's Noah.
Sheesh. Dual Kevin Armporer.
Oh, I, I still don't know what to think about Arbor.
I, I, I watched that whole tournament and I don't know what
I think about how he plays at all.
Yo, I, I'm glad you said that, Brian, because I said the same

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thing in my like my chat and YouTube comments were flaming
me. I was like, bro, I don't feel
like he's doing anything crazy. I feel like he's just, he's
waiting because he's waiting. Yeah.
It's like it was hard to processexactly what was setting him
apart. Not Yeah, it's not a diss.
It's just like he also, like I said, he played some weird
matchups. He played against Garnett, which
he played. He had really good like

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awareness against SIM and stuff like that.
But there was some like unusual matchups on his run too.
So it was like hard to, I don't know, I just feel like.
So we we don't have. To say KF KF31I.
Could. See 32, but I'd say KF31.
We'll give him a 3/2. We'll let the bias dictate here.
I I want Kev to go for a run. Oh my God, look at that classic

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meta Rd. Kev.
Where your Oh my, you're sure all the later month?
Oh I should be what? Why am I watching your stream?
Brother, I'm I'm screen sharing.Yeah, I'm.
Stripping my bad. OK, I'm watching.
Foodo Big Bird. Why does this sound familiar?
When's the last time they played?

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They haven't played in a minute,right?
I don't think they've played in a while.
Maybe they played the first EVO for Street Fighter Six, but
that's the last time I could probably think of it.
Oh, you're right. Fudo beat, Fudo beat Big Bird,
Dawson versus Marissa. That shit is alternate timeline.

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What the hell? That was at EVO 2023.
Yeah, All right, fresh slate with this one.
Fudo be playing the Rashid matchup non-stop like.
Bro, you know we have to Dave Wudo.
Does Wudo have a second place cup or no?
I don't think. He has like a deep run in Street

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Fighter 4 but not. So neither.
Neither would them have a great Cup history.
Right. I remember, I remember
Christie's smoking Fudo at cup. Remember that when Christie
wasn't on Beast anymore. I was, I was season 1 or what
was that season 3? I don't remember.

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I was like whatever when Christie wasn't on with them
anymore. Maybe season 3.
Damn it, this is hard. That's hard brother.
Shit. Gatchy Koon kind of cooked up
some fudo for a while, but that was also kind of old.
They playing the toughest of tears, both of them.

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I oh man, this is this is literally a 5050 match, but I
actually don't think there's a right answer here.
Like I feel like whoever. Whoever's just going to play
worse. I mean, you just have to not
play worse because I feel like they're both going to be a bit
shaky, but I don't know. Is the but is the character?
Is Rashid like even or what? I think Ed fights Rashid.

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I think it's even This was hard.This was.
Hard this. Is this is This is dead even to
me? I mean, if it's if it's dead
even then I got to just be biased and pick a deal.
I can see. Even anyway.
Yeah, give us a Big Bird. You got the level 2, level 2

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buff. Yeah, Big Bird takes it.
Knuckle Doo. Angry Bird and losers first fuck
around. That's crazy.
That's crazy. Angry Bird is kind of kind of
nice though. I got angry bird.
Bro, this is all right. But yeah, I, I, I think I got.

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Angry Bird went in as. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, probably
Angry Bird. How did we put Angry Bird and
losers? What the fuck were we thinking?
What happened? But.
Who wasn't Kuzunagi? That's that's that's what
happened. Man that's crazy.
Do out first round out of. That means JB had to fight Punk

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and Angry Bird well. No, I I think, I think that's
the same place do that last year.
Yeah. Yeah.
He got out of groups and lost right away.
Yeah. Shit.
OK. Xiaohai, Noah.
Oh. Spicy, actually.
Yeah, that's it. That's high.
For some reason I feel like players like Noah would mess

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with Xiao Hai. Yeah, he'll get tilted playing
against it, right? Yeah, I agree.
I agree. Look, if you, if you make it,
listen, if you make it Xiao Hai versus Noah in casuals, I'm
going to take Xiao Hai. In Capcom Cup, I'm taking Noah.
I'm, I don't like that. I'm I'm double checking.

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Let's see, let's see, this thingdoesn't like to load sometimes.
Anybody in chat saying Xiao hai easily you Allen.
Pete, they don't consider they're they're just thinking
like, oh, Xiao Hai, one big tournament.
It's not like that. It's not just that no one can
beat literally anyone on the planet.

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There's a handful of players I don't think no one can beat.
That's going to be like a punk, an angry bird.
You know what I mean? There's a handful of players
that I think would have completely.
Shut them down. At least was about to start very
soon too. Yeah, everyone else, I feel like
they can they leave like a the door open slightly and then he
can go oh wait, wait, hold on. We got we got stats UFA Xiaohai

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2O over NOAA CPT 2024 Japan super Premier 2O Xiaohai over
NOAA Xiaohai be Cookinson NOAA. Oh shit with CAMI apparently.
Can't argue stats. Can't argue sets.
That's two big recent showings. Yeah.
Where's the tournament? UFA where he got second and then

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the Japan Super Premier which was in November.
Post nerfs and all that. OK, OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
Xiao Hai, close that door. Oh, What about this one though?
It's a classic. Even if he shows man.
If you show stats like we all know who's getting picked here.

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Is that why? Like, yeah, yeah, you can't
argue that dual Kevin got a win in between, right?
But I think, I think MENA has the lead.
But Dual Kevin got a couple wins.
He got one, at least one win in Street Fighter League, right?
Oh yeah, he did beat him on Street Fighter League, right?
Yeah. So he did beat MENA before but I
think MENA got the run back later.

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Yeah, I don't know if y'all Kev was going crazy at Street
Fighter League, bro. He he anchored.
Kev was the lead. Kev was the leader of that team.
Overdue like easily. He was the anchor.
That was the anchor player all season.
And he cooked like, but fuck, you got to say MENA because he

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beat him. Heads up, yeah.
Yeah, you got to say MENA. You got no choice.
Yeah, it'll be some heads up. But Dual Kevin also won an
esports World Cup. Oh, you right.
That's what I'm saying, it's notthat straightforward.
Wait, what's the? What's the set count then?
This is actually not turning up everything.

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Creep City convergence. It's three, one with Creep City
convergence and CEO. But I don't know why esports
World Cup like the head to head doesn't pull in everything.
So we're missing some data here.It doesn't pull in like Street
Fighter League and it's not pulling an esports World Cup for
some reason. So it's closer than it seems,

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but I think MENA Rd. has a slight edge.
Yeah, I agree. All right, we'll give it to
MENA. Shush MENA Rd. over Dual Kevin.
All right, VX bow versus Big Bird.
This is random. This is random.
I actually don't know how to. Call this one.
All the vision is random. That's so bad.

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I mean, VX bow is just like, youknow, he's isolated all year,
show UPS the cup, makes big upsets and then goes back right.
It's like, I mean, what do you do at St. for the league US this
year? But.
Look, you know the thing what you say right there though,
Brian VX bow at cup making upsets mean that you usually
overperform and Big Bird usuallyunderperform at cup.

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True. Yeah.
You know what I mean? VX Bow does more than we expect,
you know. We go by that metric and also M
Bison kind of has some really good tools versus Rashid and and
Big Bird complaints about M Bison a lot.
This is. This is going outside of the.

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Game. You gotta throw that one in
there. What's that?
I say you gotta throw that one in there.
He complaints about it. I mean, if we're leveraging
things outside of the game, I think there's a reason that big
Bird complaints because I think M Bison like EX cycle Crusher
shuts down a lot of easy or safer options for Rashid.
Like it shuts down his zoning game.
We saw that with Xiaohai versus Gatchikun at esports World Cup.

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A lot of stuff that Gatchikun try to leverage, like he
immediately shut it down with Bison and you have to play a
little bit outside your comfort zone with Rashid.
I feel like to make that work, even like bad level twos like
you do a random level 2 Bison can just psycho crusher through
it. You know what I mean?
Like you don't have any free comeback potential like Rashid
does against other characters which I think makes bites it

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harder. I think but big bird just colder
than VX bow though. He's better than him though.
Yeah, VX bow is nice maybe. Yeah, VX bow is pretty big
verse. I would give big big Bird the
edge there. But I feel like match up wise
that makes me concerned for Big Bird.
I'm voting. I'm voting big.

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I'm voting. I think this goes down.
The last game I got Big Bird. I got, I got VX bow.
I think I'll take VX bow the word.
All right. Yeah, it is my bad big bird.
We'll see. All right, the next bird, JB.
Dark Neff, what you think about that match?
Who you think would have got that?

(01:36:30):
We got Neff in the chat. Angry Bird?
Yeah. I got, I mean Angry Bird, just
he plays the other best receipt on the planet 24/7.
Yeah, I like angry. Bird I like angry bird.
This is just such a hard pick for JB, like matchup wise, I
like Angry bird, but JB is stillmy pick to win the entire

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bracket. That's my sleeper pick that's he
got out of the JB JB, JB, JB is winning the tournament, mark my
words. All right, well, he's losing
this set, but he's winning the tournament.
He's eliminated, but he wins allright, we got a top 8 Punk
Tokyo. I didn't even see that Punk
Tokyo. Lashark versus Kusanagi Xiaohai
versus MENA Rd. and VX bow Angrybird.

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This is a good top eight. Look at Kusanagi in top eight
top eight winners. That's crazy Ryu top eight
winners. That is a crazy topic.
All right, punk, taquito, Punk. I think punk.
I think punk is beaten. Taquito, I think they.
Every time they played in. 6, I think Punk is beaten Taquito
actually, yeah, he he beat Taquito at the LCQ and at EVO

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this year. So Punk starting to pull away.
I think Punk just ahead of the game right now, but Tokido,
Tokido, if he finally won CPT Singapore or CPT Japan and then
he cleaned up at Street Fighter League.
I feel like Tokido, this is the best version of Tokido so far in
the game. Like Tokido has hit his stride
right so. It's just unfortunately, it's at

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the time where this is also the best version of punk in the
game. Yeah, Punk makes me worried
though, man. I'll, I mean, he had that that E
Sports World Cup performance. I mean, this shit's just it's
tough. He's playing really good Street
Fighter. League Run is amazing though.
So that's more recent. Yeah, I'm going punk.

(01:38:17):
Yeah, I think I'll take. I'll take.
Punkin Yeah, that's. Going to be close.
No, if you make it out in first place, you in winners and if you
make it out in 2nd place, you inlosers.
It's just I was last year. OK, Lashar Kusanagi.
Lashar Kusanagi. I think this.
Yeah, I I think this is the end of the road for Kusanagi, our

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hero. Lashar is just insane dude.
He's fucking a supercomputer bro.
I agree. Yeah.
Let's see if the fairy tale continues for Kusanagi.
All right. Shaohai MENA Rd.
What am I thinking of? Why do I feel like these guys go
way back? Am I missing something?

(01:39:03):
Didn't they have some kind of showdown?
A little robbery or. I don't know why I feel like
they. Do.
Am I making this up in my mind? I feel like there's some kind of
like history here and I don't remember they played.
Last year, yeah. Let me look that up.
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm inventing something in my mind here.

(01:39:24):
Did they play at EVO this year? Maybe they might have it works
across this. The liquipedia head to Brother,

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please load, I need to know. OK?
MENA Rd. at Evo Japan. MENA Rd. beat Xiaohai 21.
But this doesn't include other like Invitational stuff, so I
don't know if there's something we're missing.
I don't know. Oh, Xiaohai was on Team Bandits.

(01:40:11):
They won St. for the league worlds together.
That's what I'm forgetting. I mean, that doesn't count.
That doesn't attribute to anything, right?
But they're. Yeah, yeah.
They were teammates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were
teammates. I keep forgetting that because
that's just so fucking random. It was good.
MENA Hardy, Kaba, Christie and Xiaohai.

(01:40:34):
That's just out of left field. OK.
I mean, I'm favoring MENA here. Xiaohai.
OK. What?
What? What would he pick against MENA?
Mena's main Zengive Sha Hai gotta go What?
Ken, I probably Ken. Ken's probably the best pick.
But none of these characters really beat Zengeef, right?

(01:40:55):
Cami, I don't think Cami really beats Zengeef.
Yeah, I I Ken's probably the best pick.
But even then, like I feel like with, I'm betting on like Ken's
shit to happen, which you don't really like to bet on, but I
feel like I'll go MENA. Maybe Chat's telling me that
Xiaohai speed ran Menazinki withBison last month.

(01:41:18):
Chat what? What?
What did they play at? What do you mean speed ran?
Where was that? Where?
Was that at was this a random a random rank set where they put
AI transitions between each other?
Like it's a little different. They played money matches where
we you guys got some Intel? What?
I don't know anything about thistalking about a Chinese event.
Where? Was that at?

(01:41:41):
Chinese community events? So you're saying that in a
Chinese community event online bandits versus KSG and Xiaohai
speed random with bison against Zingief?
That's some insider Intel. What is the the JP training

(01:42:05):
paying off for MENA here then? You know the fucking bro, the
motherfucker been over there forover a month, right?
That's crazy. Yeah, but Xiaohai was more
recently locked in esports WorldCup, you know what I'm saying?
Like Xiaohai's been playing good.
The past couple of Xiaohai showed more consistency in my

(01:42:29):
opinion, at that level. We don't know what four men
already is coming in for this. Capital Xiaohai in the top 8 of
EVO. Top eight men are top 8 Capcom
Cup minority. Come on, champion.
Yeah, but Xiaohai, what you talking about?

(01:42:49):
Xiaohai was clutched as fuck in East World Cup.
He almost lost to what's the hockey player name?
It's up in my mind. He.
He. He.
Clutched the fuck up there and then just closed it out the
whole way. That was that was a crazy
comeback. He was down like 4.
O Minute has a better history clutch wise than Street Fighter
than. Yeah, but Shahi, how many KOF

(01:43:12):
evos? You can't argue about Shahi's
clutch factor. I do think he's a little, he's a
little more potentially tilted A.
Little more you get what I. Mean, I get what you're saying.
Anger. I'm not disrespecting the legend
but I'm just saying we have seenhim get tight and it affects his
game. I'm kind of failing right now.

(01:43:34):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Then they get mad and it is
better at the game. I want to see this match though
I'm I'm going shot high. I I'd like to see this match
street. Fighter league MENA Adizi at
Street Fighter league MENA was Idon't know if y'all know when we
shot Street Fighter league. It was like I think it was like

(01:43:55):
right after was it cream city orsomething?
But basically no, no, no, but his his his character got
nerved. Geef got nerf like the week
before Street Fighter league so minute a whole year was like
teetering and shit, 'cause they nerved his character right
before he came out there. The end the clutch when his team
needed to get to the fucking playoffs.
He's playing against fighting spirit who don't got shit to

(01:44:17):
lose, right? And that's when he smoked the
motherfuckers and throw the jersey and all that shit at his
weakest. At his weakest because of the
character situation. This is going to be fully
prepared. Japan trained men.
Rd. Bro.
But Xiaohai, you're, you're comparing to like champions.
Xiaohai is has fucking won a billion tournaments.

(01:44:39):
How many evos? You know what I'm saying?
Like he's done the thing across multiple.
Titles but this three fighter, he ain't got 2 Capcom cups.
No, but he got in Bison, He got he got in Bison.
That's the next factor to me. And the clutch and Bison like a
lot. A little bit of extra firepower.
I think you you're more likely to slip up against Bison than

(01:45:03):
the other way around, You know what I'm saying?
Like M Bison is just like a landmine, literally.
So I'm I'm going to go show high.
I got to be the divider. Yeah, you're the tiebreaker.
What is it? I'm thinking Xiaohai.
I I got Xiaohai. Yeah, that was a tough one.

(01:45:25):
But I think I just. Yeah, I want to see that,
though. I want to see that.
I want to see the Zeng EEF. Yeah.
Men already at Captain Cups would be sick, though.
I definitely, I definitely hope he goes a lot of Zeng EEF.
I want to. I want to see some fucking level
1 reads and see what happens. All right?
VX Bow, Angry Bird. I think the run's got to end.

(01:45:48):
I is angry. Bird bro.
Yeah, I, I like. Angry Bird, Yeah, though the VX
thought run got to end, I think.I think it's got to end.
I'm going to admit that a three one, it's got to come to a close
at some point. VX Bow just cannot.
Like if he wins the whole thing,for example, that'd be so
unexpected. I think he's he always gets wins
over those kind of players who can win the whole thing, but

(01:46:11):
I've never seen him make like that big finish on.
A on a bigger level, like shout out my boy Terrence.
And and NA was. Like the Nana but like he's
worldwide Terrence like God likeand he'll beat people who make
top 8 but for some reason he never actually like win a
tournament. Right, Yeah, I I feel that.

(01:46:34):
Yeah, Big Spout can beat anyone in this bracket, but I it has to
end at some point. Hopefully he proves me wrong
when you know what I'm saying, But I'm just historically, it
always comes to an end at some point.
All right, Yo, what do we do now?
We do winners finals or no, We do losers.
Taquito Shao Hai, these are someO fucking GS here.

(01:46:57):
Isn't it crazy? This this is I just want to
appreciate that again, like thiswhole captain cup group draw
process reminds me like we take for granted that these dudes are
still cooking like Tokido just won the evo like what is it the
legacy award? What is Hall of Fame?
He just got inducted into the Hall of Fame and we got him here

(01:47:17):
in in top 8 of captain Cup. You know what I'm saying?
And Xiao Hai. Great point.
Yeah, in the same tournament we got blahs. 15 years old.
That's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
It just shows his goddamn longevity.
That motherfucking taquito taquito LeBron, bruh.
Yeah. That's LeBron.

(01:47:39):
Straight up and he looks the best too, like physically, you
know what I'm saying? Like everyone else who hit, he's
39, right? All the other good players, when
they hit 39, they're not lookinglike Taquito.
Taquito look better like he's he's aging in reverse right now.
We just saw him. We just saw him in LA.
He looks good, dude. Like it's crazy.
I think he got some years left in him.

(01:48:01):
I got Taquito here, but you know, all this up playing
Taquito. I think Shaohai wins this, you
know, saying all this good stuff.
I think Shaohai wins. I'm a Taquito fanboy, so that
was there was no logic with whatI just said.
It was just that's pure fanboy. I just I just love me some

(01:48:24):
Taquito. You think Shanghai wins?
Why? Why is that is it and Bison
thing and Bison just makes me Yeah, yeah, I think I think the
M Bison thing. I think I feel like Taquito,
it's always in the top eight, but like it, it's never his runs

(01:48:45):
always just end like around here.
Like it's usually a 5th place atCapcom Co.
I didn't got 5th place at the Capcom Co.
He broke that at CPT Japan. I think in Street Fighter six.
He's been looking so shaky. I mean the joke was for for
Tokido was that his combos are wack.
He he's playing on fundamentals.He doesn't have any tech like he
was getting good results evo top8 and all of that in season 1.

(01:49:06):
But I think that's changed. He's optimal now.
Like the the tech he was bustingout against Lashar.
He was doing run tatsu on reaction to the flicker, you
know, chasing down the back sway, stuff like that.
I feel like Tokido has broken through and now he's like in the
weeds. He's Tokido with the back now.
I don't think it's just to keto like getting by on years of
experience. I think he's broken through.

(01:49:27):
He's proved that, in my non biased opinion of course.
I got, I got Xiao. I'm.
Riding. I'm definitely riding.
Damn, I'm Xiao. You staying?
Xiaohai item My speech. Yeah, my speech didn't work.
That's that's a close. That's the closest set of the

(01:49:47):
whole night. That's all I know.
Tokido man, he got he dropped the combo at the end.
You know what I'm saying? Like some M Bison shenanigans.
You you think you'll go M Bison,though Show high against?
That's what I'm assuming yeah, Ithink you'll go Ken.
Really. Against Ken?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cheap ass characters.
Good picks. All right.

(01:50:07):
Kusanagi, Angry Bird brother. You already know.
The third time in a row, ironically.
I actually think it's the same result.
Wow, wow, that. Would be insane double jeopardy
I think. I I honestly think at this point
this is what Angry Bird would clutch up.
I agree, but I just can't bet onit.

(01:50:29):
Yeah, I'm not bet at all that word.
I wouldn't be surprised but bro just beat him so bad.
Damn, Kusanagi takes it all right, you guys.
I think, I think angry. Bird will clutch up here.
What? Up, Brian.
Hold on. Let me think because you you
bring up a good point. This is going to be this would
be the third set that you guys are saying that he gets washed

(01:50:52):
by Kusanagi. At this point I think Angry Bird
has it in him to make some shit happen.
That's that's my opinion. You have a strong argument right
there, brother. I really think I think now they
are like are we really because of out on we basically saying
Angry Bird going to lose improved and then angry Bird

(01:51:16):
lose to him up like three times in a row bro.
Angry Birds, you're just saying free.
I'm not saying. No, no, I'm not saying beat him
free. I'm just saying like, like it's
free to hear. But no, I got angry Bird.
I got Angry Birds. Are you right?
Yeah, your logic is strong to me, I would say.
Angry. Birds, Angry Birds.
I'm still on side Kuzanagi. But you know, I voted.

(01:51:39):
That would be sick. That's great.
I mean I would love to see Kuznagi move on but I just feel
like. At some point, I mean if Kuznagi
beat Angry Bird three times, that's his daddy bro.
That's crazy. That's.
Daddy mode. Yeah, that's crazy.
All right, Damn. Top top four Punk versus Lashar
winners finals, and then Semi's Xiaohai versus Angry Bird.

(01:52:01):
That's not bad. That's not bad.
That's that's God like. I like that top four Punk lash.
OK, what before we vote on this,before we vote on this, can you
what's that? Now as we look at the top four,
somebody earlier was like, oh, somebody was like you guys are
not taking into account that there's always a surprise at
cup. You guys don't have any
surprises, brother. First of all, most I think we

(01:52:23):
probably all agreed there is onerandom ass name, not random as
if we don't know them, but like you wouldn't have predicted
making this far. I got some.
I do not think this really will be the top four.
I think there's somebody that wenot thinking is going to be
there that we already has eliminated for sure is going to
be up. There, of course.
That's how Capcom Cup goes, but we can't bet on it.

(01:52:43):
That's why it's a damn surprise.But I, I.
There's no way somebody. Yeah, no, but.
Imagine somebody. But imagine we.
Would be the fucking. People would study I'm done.
People would study this podcast for years.
So like. Jackson and his name is.
I don't. Know.

(01:53:03):
Oh shit, yeah. One name going mad far.
Yeah, there's no way. Yeah.
I can see it being out on, I cansee it being Kev, I can see it
being Dark Neff. See, I don't the reason why I
said you're getting washed is because remember what happened
when you won Capcom Cup? What was like the last thing I
said to you the last time I saw you before Capcom Cup?

(01:53:25):
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
You're like, you're just going to prepare to get smoked by
Fujimora. When I got to Kao Kao, I
remember that. Yeah.
That that was my party message. We were at the airport about to
board our flights, and I was talking to Strider about your
his path. And I said, oh, Adam, who do you
got to play? You said Fujimora.
And I said, oh, you're going to get smoked.
All right, Peace. Yeah, you know, like get ready
for. Losers or something.

(01:53:46):
I was. Like bro and then I don't.
Know if you. Oh, my bad.
Yo. I don't, I don't know if you
remember this story at Capcom Cup.
So I was in the back with you guys like, you know, remember
the little player room the year that you won the cup.
So you made grand finals. I didn't realize you were
standing right there so like, but I was so happy you made

(01:54:07):
grand finals. But punk record was so good.
I was talking to somebody and I was like how much is second
place? I think they said it was like 60
K and I was like, oh I was like bro, I don't about to get 60
bands. That's.
Like. Then I turn and I'd almost right
the fuck there bro, I'm. Like, oh shit and.

(01:54:28):
Then he went one that whole fucking thing too.
I see. God, I don't.
We're powering you up item. You see what I'm saying exactly?
It's time that's. Right before they played bro.
Exactly. Hold up, hold up.
What? I only say Americans as the
sleepers. Who can win bro?
I need to say some more people. Who else Who's?

(01:54:50):
The picks, yeah, Kusanagi is getting.
I think Kusanagi is getting way farther than a lot of people
probably haven't projected to. I don't see him winning.
I don't see Rio winning. I just meant like in this
bracket. Because I know a lot of people
have them like losing in. Pulls, we have them in.
We have them in. What a big place.
Yeah, that's that's already that's mad.
Oh, we. Already got him, huh?

(01:55:10):
Yeah, I got bro Noah. Noah to me, I swear bro.
I don't think that play style inCapcom could.
I see Noah with a solid 9th place.
Again, that's my opinion. I don't, I don't see I if he
could, he could go it's. Rough because it's first.
Forever, but I mean, I see AI can see a solid 9th place
swinging above his his weight class that that's my opinion for

(01:55:33):
Noah, who I mean, there's too many.
There's people in the fucking groups that we already counted
out. I can't even remember, like,
yeah. There we go.
Let's see. Yeah, OK, one sleeper pick
that's not in our top 4. So no Punk Lashar, no Xiaohai
Angry Bird. I mean, I still feel like a
cockatoo from groups. We we could even bring him on

(01:55:56):
from groups. I think he could win the whole
thing. Yeah, his group was just that
crazy. But yeah, he could win the whole
tournament. I don't let me see.
Idabashi already made grand finals.
But I mean, I wouldn't predict him.
I ain't going. To.
I don't. I don't.
See. It for Idabashi, in my opinion.

(01:56:19):
Fudo. Yeah, Fudo's a sleep.
Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy we're calling
him sleeper, but like, yeah, I Ithink Kakadu Fudo, right?
They they're proven in Japanese.What else you want, man?
Waiting in Japan. What y'all what about?
What about Nakodu? Yeah.

(01:56:42):
Y'all rudest look? Nah.
That news quad. That news quad is he.
Dude, we got. We got to think about it.
I think that group's just hardest spot, bro.
That's all I'm going to say. I just think that group is
hardest. Yeah, that group is mad hard.
He's going to be. That group is so hard, man.
Items, You hear items philosophy.
If you got a try in groups, you don't win.

(01:57:02):
That's items philosophy. Yeah, you're in a bad.
If you got a try in groups, you're in a bad spot.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so to me, like I'm looking
at Kakadu, who has this is a tough group, but it's not like I
think he's going to have some matchups so that he's going to
breeze through relatively. You get what I'm saying?
Like, you know what was a sleeper pick to me?
I really do feel like Broski might make it like also like a
9th place maybe, maybe not like a top eight.

(01:57:25):
Maybe. I can see Broski going mad far.
I really feel like he's playing super good right now.
A win would be fucking tough. Yeah.
But I can, I can see him going top eight.
That's it, that those are my sleeper picks.
Kakadu and Fudo to win. I got no ad.

(01:57:47):
This goes S so I swear I got no ads.
A sleeper picked a win, but I gocap.
That would be fucking hilarious.I don't even know.
I don't even know if that's goodfor the scene.
And I know, I know with $1,000,000 bro, I don't even
know why. I don't know what happened.
It'd be dangerous for everyone else around.
Oh my God bro that post match interview Jesus Christ.

(01:58:12):
You know, he'd open up, you know, a 401 KA high yield
savings account. He'd start diversifying his
options and he'd be living off the interest payments.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
I I know for a fact he'd be. He'd be sad.
No, no. Where.
Where is he from? I keep forgetting he's AJ
Street. I don't want to disrespect.
Yeah. No one would fuck around and

(01:58:32):
money match somebody for the whole million.
Hit up Xiao Hai or some shit. Damn.
Yeah, OK, all. Right, let's get into it.
All right, we're at we're at winners finals, then.
This is a big one. Punk, Lashar, this just thinking
about this gets me excited. I don't think they played.

(01:58:53):
Yeah, Lashar is like my favoriteplayer basically right now.
I I, I mean, I like Kakadu a lottoo, but Lashar, every single
time I watch him, I'm like my mybrain expands a bit.
Where Punk has just always been the best fundamentals period
since 27. You know what I mean?

(01:59:14):
It's just been so consistently dominant.
No, I'm just saying with fundamentals, he's just been the
best. Friend.
I know, I know. No, that's yeah, Yeah.
Fundamentals, yeah. But Leshark got that X Factor, I
think. It's been so hard.
Biggest tournament win in his career when?
I guess he hasn't. Had he has a.

(01:59:35):
One he. Has a 1 he keeps getting.
Seconds. Let's let's shut this shit down
right now. He do not have that big win yet.
Punk is evil champ bro. He won the the E Sports World
Cup LCQ, which is not Evo of course, but that is a big
tournament. But to be fair, after top four,

(01:59:56):
like there is a little bit of deflated tension there, you know
what I'm saying? Because it was top 4 qualified.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's it's there was a lot of
asterisks there, but that was a big ass tournament that he won,
so I do want to give him props for that.
And then he got second at St. for League Japan and 2nd at CPT
Japan. So his consistency is really

(02:00:17):
good. Punk punk.
Sounds like you're you're going.To be the first evil Capcom Cup
champ bro it. Sounds like you're setting them
up for another second place, Brian.
Talking about all these second. Places Punk makes me nervous
man. Punk me.
Are you nervous? I'm nervous man.
I I feel something about Punk and Capcom Cup makes me nervous.

(02:00:38):
I feel like EVO is almost like Iprefer Punk and Evo than Capcom
Cup I. Think I think I, I personally
think punk will feel more pressure at Evo and Cup.
You know, you know it's funny. He is personally.
It's fine. It's funny Brian brought that
up, though. I.
Am a bit. Concerned with the whole EVO
Capcom Cup thing. Nobody wins both.

(02:01:00):
Nobody has ever won both. I think it's never happened.
Four and five has never. Happened it's.
Never happened Memochi the the fun stat.
If Imochi won Capcom Cup in 20, 14 and the next season 1 Evo but
not you know it wasn't the same season.
So he won the events kind of like sandwiched back-to-back but
in separate years which is insane.

(02:01:22):
But no one's wanted back-to-back.
That would be history. We have a what is is this the
extra trashy with? That'll be a goddamn extra
trashy right there. That motherfucker win both of
those. We have some shit to talk about.
That's, I mean, that's it, that's.
Great. The book is closed, someone's

(02:01:42):
going to have to pry that shit back open.
But if you're trying to like, take that spot in history, like,
yeah, someone has to win EVO twice in a row again, but pull
some Diego shit, you know what I'm saying?
Like it. It would have to be unreal, All
right? Punk over Lashar, though.
All right. Xiaohai angry?
Birds was last year so it wouldn't be the same year.

(02:02:03):
Yes. It no, no, it's the same season.
It's the same. Season.
Yeah, yeah. When I said Mochi won Kaplan Cup
2014, I think it was still in 2015.
The Kaplan Cup, it's the 2014 season.
It's the same CPT season, same relative major patch that that's
what we're talking about, yes. So it's not the calendar year.

(02:02:25):
All right, Xiaohai, Angry Bird loser semi's here.
This one's hard. Our quarters maybe I don't even
know, but you still think Xiaohai is going, going Cami?
This one's hard. I think even versus Ken, again
it has to be Cami. I'm angry bird on this bro.

(02:02:49):
Well, hold on. Yeah, people are mentioning
like, stamina here. So we have Angry Bird coming out
through losers. Remember that?
Look at his losers run knuckle dude, JB VX Bow, Kusanagi.
So he's he's he's going on a marathon right now.
I mean, shy is too. Technically he's Noah.
He starts at Noah, then MENA, then Tokita.

(02:03:11):
Yeah, but he starts in. Noah a minute.
Tokito is crazy though bro. He has a.
He has a harder. He has a.
Harder. He's playing harder players than
the Angry Bird and losers. We have them both losing to
Kusanagi, Menardi, Tokido but itwill knuckle do JBV expel

(02:03:33):
Kristinagi. That's that's not anything to
scoff at. No, that's great.
I still think angry. I mean, think Xiao Haas is
harder. Yeah, I'm included.
No one Tokido is like. It's too and I'm including and
I'm including Noah as far as mental strain, not as far as
like just. Yeah, this counts for like three
sets exactly, exactly the amountof mental stamina that eats up

(02:03:58):
against Noah for sure. But Shao, I seem to be based on
the stats, he seems like he might because Noah to me it's
like either you struggle againsthim and win or you you shut him
down. So based on the stats, it looks
like he is like of the angry bird and punk.
Those players tend to shut Noah down.
So maybe it'll be easy. But anyways he has to go through

(02:04:19):
Men Rd. and Tokido which is likeyou know 2 champions.
Angry Bird is going through really good players, including
Knuckle Dudes a champion, but these are more recent champions.
Like those dudes win. Bro.
OK. Look at EWC where Shao Ha did

(02:04:41):
his bet. That was amazing.
I believe that angry. I don't know if it's hot take or
not hot take. I don't know if people thought
about it. Angry Bird and Big Bird are
under the most pressure at EWC out of everybody just because at
a home, like I know they're not from there, but the the audience
treats it like, you know, middle, they're the Middle

(02:05:02):
Eastern players like I know frombeing.
Over there. Like I think the pressure is
higher on them over there than everybody else, you know?
So looking at Angry Birds results at that, and even still
Angry Birds in 2nd place at Gamers 8.
Angry Bird, he cooks. He just he lost, yeah, he did

(02:05:23):
good. He got he lost in the first of
five format in top 8 to Tashikawa, which to me is not
that representative of like how you necessarily stack overall,
because that's like a weird detour and you're not you're not
ready for modern. Like that's something you're not
going to have to deal with this entire tournament.

(02:05:44):
It is actually just like a weirdlike roadblock that you ran into
at that tournament yes, I don't think it's necessarily
representative. I because I feel like that whole
tournament angry bird was playing disgusting.
HE31 first of all his his group.He did three one over kakaru 3
one over gashikoon. Who else?
I mean he was cooking. Those are that's huge three over

(02:06:06):
rain pro 3, one over lex. Like that run that's Angry Birds
run at esports World Cup like bro.
I look at Angry bird kind of like it even in like AI feel
like Angry Bird. Oh, do this make sense to you,
Brian? I look at Angry Bird as a mix of
like Mina and NL, like Mina mentality and and NL and NL

(02:06:27):
Terminator like play style type shit.
Like just that killer instinct. He's better than NL.
He's better than NL. Because he has the MENA Rd. kind
of clutch. That yes he has the MENA Rd.
clutch with that like terminatedplay style.
I I think like angry bird is in the conversation for like
baddest motherfucker if that makes sense.
He had a BMF built in Street Fighter.

(02:06:48):
Xiaohai lost in groups to Ryukiichi.
Oh and also I just realized Xiaohai in that E sports World
Cup only beat. First of all he was clutch as
fuck. He went to losers there and beat
problem X32. But then he beat Noah 32 so that
was closer than that. That wasn't brought up.
Noah almost got Xiaohai at East World's World Cup so Xiaohai
clutched up too. He was nearly eliminated like

(02:07:11):
four times and still won the whole thing, which is crazy.
So Xiaohai definitely came clutch too at East World's World
Cup. But Angry Bird had some dominant
wins over huge names too. I don't.
Know when it matters. Most in in a spot like this when
it matters most. I I got AB bro.
You still, you still take an angry bird man.
I really don't know, but I thinkI still have to go Xiaohai.

(02:07:35):
I'm kind of feeling a Xiaohai here too.
I don't know why. I just think having I don't know
what character he'll pick, but to me, if you're that good and
you have M Bison, I just to be fuck M Bison.
I just think M Bison's good at that X Factor.
I'm going to go Xiaohai. Kind of hurts me to say it but I
got 3. Top three.

(02:07:58):
Punk Lashar Xiaohai. So losers finals lashar Xiaohai.
That's crazy. I mean, have they ever played?
Because I, I feel like kind of what Bison, what Brian was
saying, I feel like Bison would just shit on Ed and then it
would just be like, it'll be over, I don't think.

(02:08:20):
Bison is hot. At this point.
The charges lost in winners. I don't think Bison is a big
problem for Ed by Ed actually has some good stuff against uh,
M Bison in my opinion, so I don't think that'll be an issue
for Lashar, but maybe the momentum factor.

(02:08:45):
I think everybody prefers to be the dude that was on loser's
side in this situation. You don't want to go to Winters
finals and then go like, oh, andtwo, you know, like and have.
To fight, just do who's on fire.Yeah, well, you just lost a
match that was close to getting grand finals.
Yeah. They're one and one last year.
Chumley can. That's ancient history.

(02:09:09):
I don't know, I'm feeling Xiaohai supremacy here.
I'm just a fanboy. Or sorry, no lashar.
My bad, I meant lashar. I'm, I'm, I'm kind of feeling
Lashar. I'm I'm Xiaohai.
Oh. Shit, oh man, again, he might go
Cammy here. I don't know.
I feel like I feel like playing out a winner's final is is super

(02:09:30):
hard and like to be in a situation like that is kind of
rough. So I think I'm going to take, I
think I'm going to take Xiaohai.Really.
You know, yeah, that's crazy that we ended up with this.
Xiaohai takes that grand finals of Capcom Cup 11 is punk
Xiaohai? Nervous.

(02:09:51):
Are you nervous for $1 million? You know they apparently 900
nine $100,000. Are you nervous?
Yeah, for some reason 2nd place gets only 100K and 1st place
gets $1,900,000 difference. That's.
Insane as far as the as far as the script now my whole thing

(02:10:12):
with Punk this whole time has been I believe because he won
EVO. The nerves issue that he used to
have is over with, but now the fact that it's 900K on the line.
And it's Xiao high. This is the MO and it's it's 900
K. It's Xiao Hai and he has history

(02:10:33):
on the line. We'll be the first person to win
Cup and EVO. I have Punk winning Capcom Cup
but if it's in this situation. Punk says.
You know, he, he wants to win both.
He's aware of this. It's not like something that he
hasn't even brought up that it'slike not on his mind.

(02:10:54):
He's aware of like the the history of winning both in the
same year. He says he wants to be a
millionaire. He wants it.
So in some ways that's pressure.That's more pressure.
This. This would be a Cinderella.
Story if if Punk wins. If Punk wins this would be the
most question I've ever saw probably.
Even if you own winners winning this will be the most clutch

(02:11:16):
shit. Ever right, So we don't have to
go to win. We got to do first set, you know
what I'm saying? It's there's a potential for a
reset. First set, first set, shit.
First set I got a shit. I, I, I I I got to go.
Xiaohai. First set though.

(02:11:37):
I got let's. Wait, let us know.
I don't You've been here. You've been literally here.
No, no, I I would say Xiaohai first set, yeah.
Yeah. I don't know if I'm thinking
with my logic or like what I want the story to because I
watched how I first set too justjust for the story.
I'm going for the. Script.

(02:11:57):
Yeah, it's just hey, 312. Yeah, no, three one, I think a
three one. I think he picks a weird
secondary, then loses the first two games and switches back to
his main, then wins one. And then where have I?
Where have I heard that before? Sound familiar?
I think. I'll have two O.
NO3O3O Xiao Hi and three O Punk because it's SF six that yeah

(02:12:22):
yeah, that's how I think is going to happen kinda.
I'll go with the three one but OK.
Xiao Hi first set. OK, so Punk lost his winner's
advantage. Are you nervous?
You know that he's still got to think about that even though
they they squash it, you know? Yeah, fuck all that and that
moment. And then he's talked about, you
know, just he's mentioned like the, the Chinese fans, they're,

(02:12:44):
they're a little ham, you know, they, they love their, their
guy. They love the rivalry.
I think this is something he's thinking about in this moment,
in my opinion. I swear.
My heart, my heart beating just just picture.
This is so God like my heart beating picture in this moment
bro. Man, this.
Is. Crazy.
So does punk reset? Here's the thing, he loses.
It's 31. Does he immediately mash

(02:13:08):
rematch? You're Brian.
It's not like you're riding likeyour fanfic over there, man.
I'm just saying because that that to me, I am.
First of all, I am. But the reason I bring that up
is because that's what I noticedwith Punk, which drives me nuts.
When the resets happen, I oh, itmakes me want to RIP my hair out
sometimes. I'm like, please take a moment,
You know what I mean? Not that I know his best.

(02:13:30):
I'm not going to pretend I know his best.
You know, he's he's himself and he's evil champ, right?
But that's something that like, it like makes me nervous when he
does that. Bro, hold on, hold on, hold up.
This is this is what happens, guys.
It's actually goes to a situation where Punk wins the
first game, Bro, Punk wins first, coming out strong, right?

(02:13:54):
It's going back and forth. This 100% goes down the last
game, last motherfucking round. We're getting the director's
notes on this one. We're getting, we're getting
round by round the the the direction here.
All right, the script is getting.
Detailed Xiao Ha might drop a combo or something.

(02:14:17):
Puncture God creates history bro.
He makes history and wins Capcomcup 32 last game last round.
And the reason I believe this isbecause that evil win we have to
take a step outside of this fanfic and acknowledge what that
evil win was much wise like the the pressure on him wasn't the

(02:14:37):
same as it would have been on anybody else in that situation.
We know the history and Please remember he almost choked in
that. We was like, we was like fuck,
there's no way it's about to happen.
Y'all remember? That.
He should have lost that last game, actually.
Yeah, Big Bird gave him an opening.
Big Bird threw him out of the corner and then he's like, oh
wait, I got a chance. And we were like, Oh my God,

(02:14:58):
this about it's a happening. We all felt, oh, it's happening
again. Oh my God.
Yeah. And he know that we all think
that he know what's going on. Biggest evil ever.
And the motherfucker clutched itout.
He does it again, bro. And then officially non debated.
I believe we had to just say here to go.

(02:15:19):
I I think like I said, I think it's going to be 3 years shout
this whole fan faked last game last round shot.
Hi, John Cavo. No, no, not going to happen.
It's going to be steamroll. Shanghai first, first set,
steamroll punk next set, and then we're going to go hold on
you. Can't let your Street Fighter
Six hate take over? I've seen it.
I've seen it happen too many. It's.

(02:15:39):
Going to be low for a drive, rush into a throw loop into a
shimmy at the end, and then it'sgoing to be oh it's over, yo,
punk's a millionaire. And then we all go home.
Well, it sounds like we got two punks.
No matter what, no matter what my side of the story is, you
know, because I see the I can see the other side happening.

(02:16:00):
I can see a three O Xiao. Hi here.
I can see it. It's possible, but in my heart
it would be a let down. If punk.
If punk got beat 31 and he on winter side about to make
history and then he got beat three O that would be a
legendary joke bro like you saying 30?

(02:16:22):
That's not a joke. That's that's.
I wouldn't call it a joke. It would be.
Falling apart. Falling apart is not necessarily
a joke. You know what I'm saying 'cause
I think a choke implies a more is.
The definition. No no no no.
To me a choker implies a much more sharp like change of
momentum, like a single, like a much more bigger abrupt mistake.
If it's just a slow like you're losing 3 games straight, that's

(02:16:44):
not a joke, you're just. Beat.
You're falling apart. You're getting beat in a where
you should have won. It's a it's you failed, but it's
not a choke in the same way, youknow what I'm saying?
So I can see punk more falling apart.
You know why it will be, but falling apart is a joke.
Because if he's the favorite. They apply different things to
me. Well, I This is why I say that

(02:17:04):
because who is the favorite punk?
We all agree, so if you are the favorite in your own winner side
and. He's a, he's the favorite.
It also depends. It depends on the severity of
the favoritism there. So I think Punk's the favorite,
but I don't think it's like, so fucking free.
You know what? Yeah, somebody said falling
apart. It's like a slow train wreck.

(02:17:26):
A train wreck in slow motion. You get what I'm saying?
A choke has one drop combo at the very end.
You had it and you dropped. That's worse than a joke.
That's worse than a joke. I agree because big bird missing
that anti air is a joke. Yes, that's my joke.
This is worse than a choke. It's a train ride.
I, I, I take big Bird's side. I don't think that was a choke.
Cami jumped at him and he froze up.
That's not a choke. Kinda yeah, we're we're getting

(02:17:49):
into semantics here a little bit.
Who the choke was the choke was he backed through?
That was the choke. Big Bird had level 2 on the
screen and he backed through Cami into the mid middle of the
screen when he had corner. I don't know if that was an
execution air like he meant the forward throw while blocking or
he like was thinking throw her into the tornado and set
something up. But he threw Punk out of the
corner into mid screen and then he lost.
That's why he lost. That was the joke in my opinion,

(02:18:11):
not the jump in. The jump in happened because he
threw it in mid screen. He's not going to stay that
night. Well, but that jumping, that's
bro he. Jumping like no, no, no, no.
He ate a jump like like a like. It's his first day playing
Street Fighter Bro Evo grand finals.
You never ate a jump versus cami.
Cami jumping at you, not at Evo grand finals.

(02:18:31):
I wonder why I won. The evil grand finals.
You ain't wrong. Me, Me neither, Rob bro, we'll
say. That bro, we'll say.
That all right. Well, it seems like semantics
aside, fanfic aside, we got two votes for Punk to take it.
Is that what I'm hearing? You know, I'm I was trying to
play the opposition there with Xiaohai, but I feel I my heart

(02:18:55):
of heart. Is too much right now.
I feel Xiaohai will also feel the pressure of the story
building and I think that'll work against them.
I do think punk. I think punk.
I think the pressure will be like 53.
One I think a three one in. Xiao Ha but.
Yeah, but I'm being biased. I think it the the pressure.

(02:19:17):
On Punk was. A lot higher than Xiao Hai.
A lot, yeah, but. I got Punk winning though.
All right, winner. And boom, punk be punk becomes
the goal. Winner of Capcom Cup 11, the 1st
and only Capcom and EVO championin the same season.

(02:19:37):
Punk the God. Well, how can we see those
standings? Let's see Punk.
So we got Punk first, Xiaohai second, Lashar third, Angry
Bird, Angry Bird 4th, Kusanagi Tokyo 5th, Menard DVX Bow Top 8
and then all these fine gentlemen below that.

(02:20:00):
That's a pretty good top 8. Our list of fire, bro Yeah,
that's a good list for. How much did we devolve into fan
fiction, though? That was kind of no, no, at the
end. The end was kind of, you know,
you guys running your. But like I said, I think Punk
has the best shot but it. I I.
Think Evo, a Capcom cup is so hard.
Man. Right.

(02:20:20):
Yeah, I think we, I think we were mostly going off of stats
and logic for the most part leading up to this and then it
and then it set up the fan fiction at the very end.
And we all had to agree and voteif we if we all did our own
thing. Yeah.
And it would be different. It would be.
Different. No.

(02:20:40):
There's no way anyone will come to the same conclusion.
Logic yeah, like I got menu as my one of my favorites to win
cup, but it's not based off of just it was to match ups and all
that shit, you know what I'm saying?
Right, yeah, my my conspiracy theory is that JB will win.
I'm I'm standing on that. I mean, if he's out of Group B

(02:21:01):
and like Group B, Group B and winners.
I I think JB actually you're going to see salty kid or see
Nick get out of that shit in winters.
And I was like, Oh my God, Bangladesh about to win Capcom
Cup. Bro I'm telling you y'all, it's
punk minute or Kev Bro punk minute or Kev.
Now can I can I ask you all thisthough if because Justin won't

(02:21:24):
be getting on my ass so I don't is if punk wins this am I
tripping? Say that's the Street Fighter
go. No, that's that's facts that
that's all Punk was missing. Yeah, it might be nothing else.
We could really argue that's allhe was missing.
He already had he already had the non CPT Evo Grand Slam with
ESL in his rookie year, right? And then he had every other

(02:21:45):
premiere. So he has like the big money
premiere already. He's been had that and then it
was evo and then his Capricorn Cup.
That's it. There's no other heights.
There's there's literally nothing else that he could do.
Obviously esports World Cup is the new one.
I'm sure he wants to win one of those, but he had a similar
equivalence when back in street.Fighter Five, he wouldn't need

(02:22:05):
it. He wouldn't need it.
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, Robin, he needs to win a
Red Bull kumite. That is an interesting thing.
He doesn't have like a cool Invitational, but that's more
like E league. No, no, but E league is a is a
esports World Cup. That's not the same thing to me.
I get I get what they're saying.It's more like an All Star show,

(02:22:27):
an All Star game. That's what Red Bull Kumite is.
You get what I'm saying. It's not the same thing.
It's not a big money Invitational.
Red Bull Kumite does add to yourlegacy for show.
He is using, like street cred. It's like, yeah.
I don't think it's just I don't.Think it's just St. cred I but I
get what you it's different. It's weird to explain, but it's.
The All Star game, to me, it's like the All Star.
I don't know, it's like something a little different.

(02:22:51):
I know what you mean, it is the All Star.
I agree that it's the All Star game though, but I think for
your legacy it adds something. It makes you seem cool.
I'm saying St. cred as in it's literally badass.
It's like a badass thing, but you don't need that to be the
GOAT, OK? No, no, you don't need to be the
goat, but it but it adds to yourit means something like when
problem X1 it it it was important and it was like

(02:23:13):
offline man does the team. He was like that shit meant
something. I mean, it was like, oh, I had a
fun little time, No. It was important because
probably was getting smokes constantly and then he won the
the the Kuma tag. That's why I was.
He's like, no fucking ending Walker here.
No, No 4 fields get that folk shit out of here.

(02:23:34):
Yeah, that's what he is. And he's like I.
Think if the Japanese players was winning that shit every year
then then motherfucker. 'S like Oh yeah that shit mean
the world no it. Means something.
It definitely means something, but it's I I still think it's
below East Sports World Cup and and Kubete.
Oh sorry, and Captain Cup and Evo.
It's below that, obviously just arguing there, unless you're

(02:23:55):
trying to argue that. No, I, no, I, no, it is.
It is, I agree. But.
That's why that's why when I saySt. cred, I just I'm just trying
to say it adds to your legacy, but it has like a coolness
factor because it's just such a cool event.
It's more of just like a cool thing to say.
Look at this, I did this and we all and every because everyone
there looks bad ass at the same time, like everyone involved
looks like a superstar. So to me that makes your win

(02:24:17):
also feel like a bigger event aswell.
But I think even without that, Punk would still be the GOAT if
he wins EVO. He won some.
Evo. That's it even.
Back in Street Fighter Five, in Street Fighter Five, if he won
Capcom Cup, he would almost be arguing like he's getting up
there. But if you got an EVO and Capcom
Cup, it's over. Yeah, it's over.

(02:24:39):
I mean with all the other majorshe has and he's got the best
neutral game we've ever seen, bro.
Mimochi would be the closest, but Mimochi never won that many
premier tournaments and then like Tokido would be there too,
but he also never won Capcom Cup.
Daigo hasn't won enough post Street Fighter 4 early days.

(02:24:59):
Yeah, it would be, dude. Remember, even when he won Evo
he I mean. He was the.
Favorite. We're forgetting MENA Evo Japan.
To be fair, we don't really holdEvo Japan to.
The. Which is a little unfair.
It's a little unfair. Yeah.

(02:25:20):
Yeah, but see how we forgot that?
About that, no comment. No comment.
But OK so MENA has evo Japan andtwo cap from cups.
Punk would have evo cap from cups same year plus way way way
way more tournaments in between.So it would be it'd be Punk MENA
RDS. The conversation, we don't get
it. We don't get to skip over it
though. Are we really going to would

(02:25:42):
damn that shit? Evo Vegas is above Evo Japan.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
It. Just it just.
It just. Is it just.
I would even even if you. Would not even about the
exactly. It's not about who's there, it's
about the. The legacy procedure.
Even if you're even if Evo Japanis a harder tournament win, Evo
Vegas has a different pressure to it in.
My opinion, that's the one that gets remembered, it just.

(02:26:05):
Yes, it's different. Like, that's why I feel bad for
Oil King. Yeah.
Nobody even brings up Oil King'sevil.
When we glossed over him in the groups I had.
I had to bring him up because I,I feel bad for Oil King.
I think. I think he gets a little
disrespected in that regard. He that that man won the final
evil Japan for Street Fighter Five, and no one seems to bring

(02:26:26):
that up. Bro you said so.
Justin Wong doesn't exist now. Bro.
Are we talking about Street Fighter brother?
Not not FGC. What are you saying, Street
Fighter? Is that that 76 Is?
Is is, you know, that's when he was born.
Yeah. We got to, we got to let him.
Let him believe, man. Come on, Let him.
Let him chill. It's all good, you know, Things

(02:26:47):
never change. It's all good.
Yeah, just. Justin still a goat, you know?
Yeah, like what the? Fuck like Street Fighter
respectfully. Yeah, he was never Yeah.
He's never like he's not in a goat.
He's not in a goat conversation for Street Fighter and.
A all watching. Games, but not yeah, but the

(02:27:07):
world? Hell no.
No, that's not disrespectful. He'd say that.
No, there was. There was pure raw, even for
like the Street Fighter 4 era. There was other people doing
more. Snake Eyes.
Yeah, Snake Eyes got a Super Super Turbo HD Remix on Sunoco

(02:27:28):
as well. Kazunoko, Capcom Cup champion.
What? What else is like really big
With Kazunoko? He's just always consistent, but
he's got a lot of top eights at EVO.
I mean, you got top eight. I mean, yeah, top eight at you
got third at EVO, the one Taquito one, That's right.
And he got third at Capcom Cup, right?

(02:27:49):
2016. Yeah, he did.
Kazanok was always sneaky. Like he's always up there.
I feel like he gets lost in the conversation.
He's one of the goats of fighting games, though, because
he's done it across so many games, doing it in DBFZ, just
breaking that game. Yeah.
All right, well, we'll see if our fanfic comes comes true.

(02:28:09):
This would be insane. I'm telling you, people will
dissect this conversation for years to figure out how like the
butterfly effect that we caused if this shit comes to fruition.
Got to be fucking gone like. Bro yeah, but it's probably it's
got to be fucking. You know we're going to we're
going to get like a a bravery. Yeah, my man's limestone.
I'm interested to see Savatore. I'm, I'm telling you, these

(02:28:31):
groups. Me too.
No matter what, especially if any players listen to this, I
want to let them know that like they're going to cook.
And your shit. Yeah.
Anybody, anybody who's not expected like say lime thrown
and diver and all your motherfuckers, bro, The way I
look at this shit in the end of the day last year, you remember
Brian, everybody was like, oh, it is Capcom cook.

(02:28:52):
Some of these motherfuckers don't belong to be there.
Else exact people are the ones who ended up cooking in the
bracket bro. Yeah safe.
Hella. People wait.
Wait. Wait, wait, wait, it was only
Uma? I feel like we get the.
One safe one. Safe.
No, it wasn't. I was safe.
Making out of that pool was not surprising in my opinion, but he
went to top eight. What do you mean he cooked feet?

(02:29:13):
He. He got OK.
You ain't seen him making no damn top 8.
I I could have seen him make Canada wasn't top eight.
No, I don't even tell me. No, no.
No, no, you guys are underplaying save first of all.
Second of all, I was not surprised save made out of that.
I'm underplaying Canada, not notsave Canada.
That's. What?
I'm. Trying, I'll give you that.

(02:29:35):
Nobody expected to make top 8, but him beating Phenom was kind
of just like the wow, I can't believe that happened, save
beating Kevin's not that surprising.
Him beating Phenom was like, oh shit, I can't believe he did
that. Yeah.
And then, yeah, that was kind ofit.
No, but but I'm saying motherfuckers was getting wins
though that people didn't think they would get.
That's what. I'm saying, yeah, there were
games that people like Mike, like the Val Master Group.

(02:29:59):
That was surprising. Val Master got kind of cooked.
There's a few others. So I.
Feel like in in the case of making.
It far we've. Had.
We've had UMA, which I think a lot of people didn't expect them
to get that far. And I think the CN, the CN Jen
one from Street Fighter 5, but Ithink those are the only two
ever since we started this format.

(02:30:20):
That's kind of yeah. Well, to make it far, to make it
far, I'm just saying. I'm just saying outperforming
what people expect y'all to perform.
Bravery did 32 last year. We were kind of like, I feel
like we're downplaying Bravery alittle bit.
Who did he beat? He beat Mr. Crimson, he beat
Dookie and he beat Android. He lost the knuckle do and DCQ
Bravery. Yeah, I'm looking at like a

(02:30:41):
bravery. Mike axed it pretty good.
I was impressed. Yeah.
But there hasn't been any major,even Uma, that was just us, you
know, he's just not known. He was still from a super strong
region and played with all the people he beat.
Right. So there hasn't been a super
major upset beside Jen. I think I kind of agree with

(02:31:02):
that. Yeah, yeah, I just realized I I
just saw it, but Uma versus Chris Wall grand finals was
three O free one way and then three O free the next one.
Bro, it's the game chats bringing up Lashar chats
bringing up Lashar being unexpected, yes, but also just
like Uma. That was that was just ear
wasn't to the street. Yeah, but either way I'm still

(02:31:23):
counting it because I I was so pissed after that when people
made tweets. Like Oh yeah, y'all just what?
Nigga ain't nobody. Show me your fantasy bracket.
That hatless show. Ink cross.
Ink cross. Where's your tweet?
You're in the chat right now. My, my, my man.
Ink Cross. That's one.
Human. That's not one human.
That's that's the guy. That's all what you're looking

(02:31:43):
at. That's everything I pulled up
today. That's E Cross.
People did not, I'm saying. OK, but that's but what I'm
saying is that's that's a fault of the online format.
Lashar beat all these players already is what I'm saying.
Multiple times, no? No, but.
There's a difference, There's a difference.
There's a difference between a player who has 0 experience

(02:32:03):
versus the the field of competition making that upset
and a player who does have that all that experience but no one
knows about it. That's a huge difference world.
The difference. If Lashar had never fought these
people before in his life and then beat all of them, I'd be
like, wow, that was crazy. But Lashar beat all these guys
online the whole year. If South if fucking a limestone
shot the slime limestone Kim from Columbia.

(02:32:24):
If limestone makes top 16 that would not come.
What I was going to say is that would not even come close to the
shock of UMA winning Cap Palm Cup, of course.
Not because it's not the same. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what you're trying to argue, but Uma beat these
people before too. So it's one of those things
where I think. The shock.

(02:32:46):
The shock is not because of the player outperforming their
expectation in reality. The shock is because reality was
obscured from us because the format was ass.
That's what I'm arguing. Uma played with all these guys
and beat them multiple times. I mean we just we weren't known
because this it was all it was. They were playing in ICFCI keep

(02:33:07):
forgetting the tournament name IFC, whatever it's called.
They played in Asia all the time, every week.
Like their TNS, their can opener, they played all the
time. I think the only level of bigger
shock would be like if Limestonewon.
But even like Uma is not like. Nobody knew Uma was.
You have to be a fucking nerd toknow about Uma and Lashar, so
that's why I'm bringing up Ink Cross.

(02:33:28):
Ink Cross. Is an informed nerd look like.
Now, I interviewed Uma after he I don't know what he looked like
right now. Well, that's you might just have
some facial recognition issues, brother, because I I know Uma.
Looks like wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait. Brian, I got to take Ralphs side
on that one. I actually do got to take Ralphs
side. On that one.
I. See.
I don't think I've seen his face.

(02:33:50):
I see the Capcom photo face. I mean, maybe the the, you know,
it's starting to fade a little bit.
The opacity is like the sliders.Going up?
Do you know what? Uma looked.
Like yes or no, right you. Probably forgot.
I mean, you can probably pull. Up a no no, like I said, I
don't. Blame anyone for forgetting what
Uma looks like. No, I I Yeah, he dipped.
I get it. But that's what I'm saying.
The format sucks. And that what's, that's what led

(02:34:12):
to someone like Uma winning and dipping.
Yeah. And the prizing.
The prizing sucks. And we have another Uma
situation and they saw a man, 2nd place got 100K and I won a
million. Of course, they're never fucking
coming back. I think the prizing
distribution, yes. And if you have another UMA
situation? We talked.
About this street. Fighter League One year,
actually. We were like you if you want to

(02:34:34):
stop playing. Don't expose me.
I don't know what you want to say.
Shut up. Shut up.
This is the Capcom retirement package, dude.
If you are an underdog and you win Capcom, why would you ever
come back? You you like the the odds of you
getting similar money ever againare gone.
Bro, Well, I thought you were saying.

(02:34:56):
I thought you were saying that anybody who wins would do that.
No, if you, if this is your life, that's what MENA what I
did and I want to interview MENAfor trash talk.
He even said that he's like man,I feel like it was too easy for
Uma because like everyone else in this Captain club has lived
this. They dedicated their lives to
this, and if they won, it's easyfor Uma to do it once and dip,

(02:35:16):
but for everybody else, they would stick around because it
means something to them. They they traveled, they've been
they've how many hours they've been on a plane, random fucking
hotels all over the planet grinding.
It's different. It's different if you qualify
online, show up and win right away and then you go, well, that
was crazy. If I do this again, it's going
to be a lot harder and I might not ever come close to this.

(02:35:37):
So peace. Yeah, absolutely.
I think this price split, it definitely encourages that.
Bro, you know what the prospect I don't think bro the UMA
situation 9 times out of 10 would never happen again.
Bro that was. AI don't know.
That would never happen again bro.
I've been telling my child. Random winning Capcom cup would

(02:35:57):
never happen again bro. No, I, I still, I think even
with the way this format is now,I think 1,000,000 is too much.
But even like I've told my child, if I won, I'm making a
Marvel Three circuit like it's. It's just the way it's.
Going to be I. I'm still standing.
On that. I'm.
Standing. On that, I'm making pathway out,
putting up with Street Fighter Six that he hates so much just

(02:36:17):
to fund his way out of this, to make his own Marvel 3 esports
circuit, to finally live his true life.
That would be that would be my end gear.
I'm not even joking. Hey.
Brett, I said you can't even get48.
That's bullshit. That's bullshit.
People play Marvel. Yeah, people play Marvel.
Three. You can get at least the top 64.
That's. Fucked.

(02:36:38):
Up at least. But I don't well.
Also the, the the even with the same format, it's not the same.
We have 10 off lines versus 3 off lines that alone.
They fixed it. That like that was fucking
absurd. Like now like I was pissed last
year but now I'm actually just I'm getting pissed again
thinking about it. That was fucking absurd.

(02:36:58):
Why did we have that 3 offline events last year for the first
year of Street Fighter Six, the biggest fighting game release of
all time? You put up that Tor format.
That shit pisses me off. Thinking back about it now, I'm
getting angrier. I cannot believe that they

(02:37:19):
fumble the launch year of the biggest fighting game ever.
That's it, that's all. I got that.
Was your that was. Your right, you ain't going to
say it. You ain't humble the whole year.

(02:37:42):
God damn, Brian. What do you mean that you want a
fucking rush? No, that sucks.
No, no, no, no, no what? Do you mean no, that you're
sucked? I'm not saying no, the format
should have been better, but Street Fighter 6 launch was
fucking great. It was well, we were specific,
Like, let's not have revisionisthistory.
What do you mean? The launch was.
That's why. That's why I'm pissed.

(02:38:02):
That's so much wasted potential.OK, I thought.
You said I thought you said. I thought you were saying the
launch was bad. I ain't trying.
To no, I'm saying they fumble the the pro tour of the launch.
That's what they fumble, Rob, trying to keep his job.
Facts. Facts.
All right, I see you, Rob. I got shoot.
Yeah, it was it was great. I really enjoyed when you know

(02:38:24):
that you did the group draws andyou knew all the players and
their faces and their stories. That was amazing, dude.
I missed the older Rob, man. We was the same way.
We felt what happened. I'm saying what the fuck?
I thought the score definitely need to improve and they
improved it. I agree with you I just I know I
misheard. I thought you said that the
launch was bad. Like Street Fighter five had a

(02:38:44):
launch, 6 had an amazing launch.Yeah, but that was the inverse.
The five launch was terrible, but the Pro Tour was so much.
I mean, obviously I don't expectit to go back to that level way
better. That was asked.
What? Don't act like you don't know.
How about that? You know how I feel about as a
pro player, not as a viewer, not.

(02:39:05):
As yeah, yeah, there's problems.I mean, what you're saying,
yeah. As a pro player, that's what I
mean, Chad and everybody as a pro player, that shit was was
crazy and it was you had to go to.
It needed tweaks. Do we need to?
Do the math, do we need to do the math and how much money you
needed to spend. Yeah, it needed tweaks.
And it was only possible becauseof a fucking E sports bubble

(02:39:25):
with stupid ass investors that was willing to spend 50 fucking
thousand send you around tournaments to make $2.00.
So nigga that mean the tour was trash.
Thank you I. Mean it needed.
Tweaks it require a billion dollar Angel investors for
nothing. But as a viewer, though, that
shit was, yeah, keep wasting, keep wasting that money, baby.

(02:39:46):
That's. What was?
Required. Throw that shovel that money to
the furnace, baby, let's go. That shit was sick.
That's why it's so crazy for people to compare.
Like yes keep improving this butyou can't compare this to the
five shit when 5 is only possible if you need go get a
fucking. Yeah, yeah.

(02:40:08):
And also like all the events dielike, like they had to do their
best that they could, but 3 offline events only when the
other ones existed still. That's what was crazy to me.
CEO was right there. There was, there was other
events right there playing Street Fighter Six, you know
what I'm saying? Like that's what there, there
was some infrastructure left that wasn't tapped into, which I
did not understand. I think there might be.

(02:40:30):
I'm not Privy to any information.
I just think there might be things that are more complicated
than that, and it might not be as simple as, oh, they play
Street Fighter, so let's just have the Major there.
Yeah, listen, whatever reality happens, I'm I'm going to speak
as a loud, stubborn and and spoiled fan.
Fuck that shit sucks. That's all I'm saying.

(02:40:51):
It's much better. It's much better us having
fucking 10 and we see from the bracket the bracket is. 50. 1000
times better than last year bracket.
Yes, way better. Like this shit is gone.
Like this is gone and I like last year but this is gone.
Like bro. Way better.
Yeah. All right.
Guys, now I just want them to put like, well, whatever, we're

(02:41:12):
talking later. Yeah, I'm wrapping it up.
It's my bedtime. You got any final words?
This is, we'll figure out how this is going to go on to the
podcast or whatever, but what doyou got?
What do you think? Any final?
Invite me back without putting my fucking camera on bro.
You're almost ready. You didn't even fucking tell me
my girl came in here and fuckingturned my little background like

(02:41:33):
someone and shit. Brother, this is.
He. Thinks this is some no neutral
some CPT produces shit I I don'tknow what I'm doing here we got
to get John on the the call hereand we're.
Going to. Have a fucking audio call.
This is amateur hour, Rob all. Right, well it was fun.
Appreciate it brother. Hey, I just want to say on

(02:41:55):
stream, trash talk the coldest shit in the FGC.
Oh my Mama that shit firing you.You changing the scene with that
shit bro? Dead ass.
I really think you elevating thescene like overall shit is dope
as fuck. Thank you.
We'll see you. Still ain't you.
Still ain't shit though. I mean, you still ain't best
dressed though, so whoa. Hey.

(02:42:18):
Hey, Oh my God. I can't say anything.
I can't say anything. Oh my God it's weird.
I can't speak on it without OK fuck it I just say this.
I just say this bro, don't be careful man.
Be careful man. Yeah.
He hung up. You didn't want to expose

(02:42:39):
anyone. All right, Rob TV, ladies and
gentlemen, idom. Any closing thoughts?
Any last thoughts on Capcom Cup 11?
How you how you're feeling goinginto this?
What you think? I mean.
Good bracket fun fun riding my fanfic well our fanfic, but JB
is still going to win this. That's that's my closing
statement true easiest group hasto win all right man closing

(02:43:01):
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