Weight Gain is Not Failure—It’s a Trauma Response with Coach Cally Rempis

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Hello hello soulful seekers, welcome back to Trauma and
Transcendence. I've got a very special guest
today. I have selfishly been waiting to
speak to her and have some Cali hangout time for a while now.
My guest today is Cali Rempis and I can't wait for you to get
to know her. Cali, please tell the audience

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about the genius that is you. Hey everybody, I'm not so sure
about genius but I try really hard.
I am Cali Rumpus. I also go by Hypno coach Cali.
I'm an integrative health coach and certified hypnotist.
I'm out of Nashville, TN and I really love working with people

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helping helping them create the change and transformation they
want in their lives and not justin their health but in their
their entire life. The thing that really captured
my attention about you is 1. You're supremely kind, but also
really deeply authentic and I love that you just really embody

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that fully in a way that I thinkpeople have a hard time doing.
And so that's the reason I was super excited to have this
conversation with you today because aside from being a
hypnotist, I know you're also part of a band and I've seen
some really bad ass photos and videos of you just loving what
you do. Can you tell us a bit about your

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band? Yeah.
So, yeah, I am permanently pictured on the Internet and I
will never be able to take all that thing, all those things
down. So.
But I play in an 80s alternativerock band called Bray Gun out of
Nashville. We've been going now it'll be 8
years and November that we are still together and we've rotated

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some band members in the in the meantime.
But we do 80s alternative rock and we do the dark side of the
80s. So we do the, the new wave, the,
the stuff that we do some popular things, but we also do
some of the deeper cuts. So we call it the Dali goth rock
of, of the 80s, which is really fun and just allows me, you

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know, it's a, it's a stress reliever #1 and then it's just
so fun that you can just jam outsome music.
And I can dance as ridiculous asI want to on stage.
So I, I'm, I'm one of those totally pulls the Mick Jagger
moves on stage because I can't, I can't hear music and not move.

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That's just, you know, it may not be the prettiest, but it's
going to be, it's going to be high energy.
Was it always that way for you, or did you have to work through
some blocks to be able to get tothat level of authenticity and
being in the moment? So I think it's evolved over
time, definitely. But I've always I've always

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loved performance art. I've always loved to watch
performance art on stage. And one thing that always kind
of perturbed me a little bit is I would get bored when I'd see a
band just standing there playingand like, I want to see you get
into your music. I want to, you know, because I

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want to get into your music because I can't sit still.
So I kind of feel stupid if if the band is standing there and
just playing and I'm like rocking out, like, you know, I
just don't care which most of the time I don't.
So I always wanted to portray that on stage to to give my
audience permission to get into my music and to get in my

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performance and and by doing. The only way for me to know to
do that is to do it myself. So it's all about energy and
what you put into it. I hadn't even considered that.
That's so beautiful. I love that you create that
space and you hold that container for people to do that
and you know that that is what it is.

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At the end of the day, ladies and gents, when it comes down to
it, when you're doing things, we're so quick to make it about
ourselves. And then people get caught up in
that and they can't get off thatroller coaster ride of, oh God,
what if I don't do this right? Or if I'm not good enough, or if
I make a mistake, heaven forbid.How about we just focus on
showing up? Show up, be yourself.

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You know, that's one thing. Like I've always, I love music.
I've always been, I'm always dancing around the kitchen or
dancing around the house or dancing, you know, when I was a
kid, I was the same way. And it was, it's a, it's a
release in that and it is an authentic, you know, release.

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And I, I want people to feel that.
I want people to to just sit there to enjoy it and have fun
and, you know, do whatever they want to do.
You know, when it comes to hearing like some of their,
especially the music we play brings you back to a time when
things were probably a little bit simpler for all of us,
right? So it was, it was a different

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time and it's it's just, it's anawesome place to go back to and
just have fun with. There is something really
special about movement and dancing and enjoying music that
I want to say is neuroprotective.
I can think of really traumatic points in my life and I want to
say the reason that it didn't become like full on PTSD back

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then was because I danced so much.
We do not like the same music atall.
I was the 90s, yeah, no, I was the 90s dance girls.
So right down to the the platforms and all of those
things. And I still listen to the same
shit today. I love it as well.

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I wouldn't have pictured that. Oh yeah.
So, so that's just one genre I love.
Like I love all different kinds of music.
I'm not a one thing I I've neverreally gotten into was I don't
get into country music that much, to be honest.
I'm more of a rock or a pop girl.
And I definitely love me some pop music and I totally got into

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it, I think. And there are some aspects of
country that I like. It's just one that I just
haven't gotten into as much either.
So, you know, it's OK to span that or not fan that or you
know, you know, there's so many different genres.
So gosh, have at it. It's all subjective.

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I mean, I think unless you're line dancing, it's not as
somatic an experience to slow dance.
So for me, when I was dancing tothe 90s dance mix music, there
was a lot of movement. And so I wasn't really staying
in one state for very long. I learned how to move through
emotional states very fast because of that.

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I'm so I think that's why traumadidn't stick as much as it could
have for me. And I don't know about you, but
that's one thing I see a lot in people and people who do have
trauma, if they don't move, theydon't get into music, they don't
enjoy arts, they stay stuck in those states.
No, I I completely agree. And I see the correlation there

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as well. And you know, I'm going to, I'm
going to quote T Swift here for a minute with she had that song
Shake it off, right. And that is something that I use
in just like if you look at nature in general, like animals,
right? When they go through fight or
flight and they go through that flight and they have that
adrenaline rush and when they'refinally out of that and they're

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safe, the first thing that animal does to calm down is
shake it off. Like they go through this full
body vibration to shake off thatstate.
And it's something that we should be doing as well, like
when we have a really stressful situation.
I actually wrote about it about a year ago.
I actually auditioned for another band that was a big

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tribute band. And when I went through the
audition, I, I had one of those situations where I made a
mistake and then I, and then I made another one and then I made
another one. And I, by the time I left there,
I was like, Oh my gosh, I just blew that audition.
Like I just blew that audition. And I was just heavy like I was,

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it was, and I literally went outto my car because I had to go to
my brain practice right after. It was really kind of funny.
And I stood at my car outside the studio and I literally shook
my whole body like, get out of this.
We're getting out of this right now.
We're not doing this. We are not bringing this to
practice. We're not doing this.
And I wrote about it on there onmy warrior life mindset group

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because it, it's a real thing. And I completely agree with you.
Like that movement, that dance, it just allows that that just to
get out of you that that tensionthat you know, and allow that
good energy to come in. So I'm with you on that.
If we watch little kids, they doit all the time.
They do it instinctively, they do it naturally.

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They know they have that hyperventilating type cry that
they do and it's the same thing.They're shaking the body.
I love that you immediately caught it and you're like, Nope,
not staying in this. I'm going to ship this right
now. And then went and had a good
practice after. Yeah, it's a, it's a thing.
And I, I tell people, you know, because we're taught, you know,
especially as kids went in school, sit still, don't move,

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don't do anything, you know, youcan go outside during recess and
that's it. It's really important.
Like that movement you miss, andthose kids miss that.
And there's a reason they're like, oh, he's hyperactive.
No, he's a child. They're children.
And that's what they do. That's so that's one thing.
That's just my belief on it. I know there's much more to it,

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but that is that is one thing that, you know, we're trying to
contain this energy that these kids need to get out.
Yeah, when I think back to beingyounger in elementary school and
things like that, if somebody was in trouble, you know, if
they were feeling really big emotions, I'd see them, like,
stomp their feet. And then you'd hear the teacher
telling them that don't stomp your feet.

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And it's like, no, no, wait, wait.
He's getting grounded. He knows exactly what he wants
to do. Like, what are you bugging him
for? He's getting embodied.
It's a good thing. But yeah, we we try to move that
out. It's such a such a weird,
unnatural thing that we've done in society with that.
But that was one hell of a tangent.
We'll come on back. In any case.

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I want to hear more about your war warrior life group that
you've mentioned. What is that about?
I. Have AI have a warrior life
based group, but it's it's a free group that I just give try
to give tips and real world advice for for people coming on
and you can find it for your life mindset group on Facebook.

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And it's just a it's just a great group with a great group,
a bunch of people that it's all about just, you know, bettering
yourself every day. What little things can we do to
make our lives better every day?Because we're not stuck here.
We're stuck here if we keep ourselves here.
And it's all about progressing and doing more for yourself.

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And what do I need today? You know, maybe I don't need
this, but I need this. And maybe tomorrow I don't need
this, but I need this. And it's it's figuring out
little things that work for you as you create your best life.
Yeah, I really like that. And I, I think having that focus

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on the mindset is really so important because there are so
many things that our body just again, intuitively knows.
I'm thinking about like the pastfew months, I've been up and
down on a weight loss journey. Previously did keto, had
wonderful success, lost 70 lbs, had trauma, gained it all back
and then some. And then keto just stopped
working in my body in the way that it had previously.

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And I think that was again, trauma response has taken time
for that to reel back. And somewhere in the journey,
there have just been moments where it's like little hits of,
oh, I need collagen. I don't know where that came
from. I don't know why it was just an
immediate no, I need this. There's something about this
that I need. So it's really important to like
look at those little things of, oh, what is one more thing I can

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do today without it having be like a hope.
Let's go for a full on overhaul here of my lifestyle right in
this moment and expect to hold it for, you know, several
months. For sure.
And that's, and that's exactly what we're talking about is, is
you have to #1 everybody's different and every client is

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different and every person is different.
Everybody's weight loss or health journey is different.
And that is something that people have to realize.
And mindset is absolutely key inmaintaining that.
And when you have traumatic experience like that, that can
definitely affect any kind of diet.

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Like if you were you said you were going keto for a while,
that can absolutely just say no.Yeah, that, I've learned, is not
to even compare my own results to before, because the body's
not the same as even it was then.
So the responses are entirely different.
It's like wait a minute, this used to work well for me and I'm
having to realize this is not the same body I got to play my

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rules fun. And it's a listening.
And another thing is teaching people to listen to themselves.
Like, stop for a minute. What are you really feeling?
What are you thinking right now?What is really going through
your head? What's really going through your
body? Where are you feeling?
Are you feeling tension and getting this?

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You know, another thing, at least I was never taught as a
child like how to listen to myself.
And it wasn't until, you know, embarrassing much into my
adulthood life that I learned toOK, just sit still for a minute
and listen to your thoughts, listen to what's going on.

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So, and, and it makes a huge difference when, you know,
you're like, Oh my gosh, I'm so hungry.
And then when you really sit there, you're like, Oh my gosh,
I am so thirsty right now. When was the last time I had a
glass of water? You know, and it seems silly in
a way, but it's so imperative how our body automatically

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shoots off these, these markers to hey, do something, do
something, do something. And we interpret it as, oh, I
just need to eat or I just need to do this or I just need to do
this. And then part of it's the, the
dopamine like serotonin response, you know, there's so
many different aspects. So you're absolutely right.

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There are so many different aspects.
It sounds like weight and conditioning is something that
you work really integrally with.For sure, for sure.
So most people come to me for they need help with their
weight. You know, I have, you know, some
people do come to me for life coaching, but 90% of my clients

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are weight related. So we go through their whole
history. We talk about their whole life
because I want to see where theystarted, where they, where they
started the problem. And it may be a problem from the
very beginning of, you know, childhood, but it may not have
occurred till much later, might have not have occurred until

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after childbirth or whatever. There's so many different
things. And I found a lot of times when
you're going back and you're really digging in to a client's
experience, you know, you see a lot of trauma, you see a lot of
big things happening before, before these experience, before
they experienced health problems.

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And so I deal with a lot of trauma on that, you know,
resolving that trauma to keep them to so they can feel safe
again to where they can be safe.You know, unfortunately we see
things, you know, horrible traumatic experiences where
especially with women, where they'll put on weight to keep

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themselves safe because they're no longer attractive to that
person. That was traumatic to them, you
know, and what other, whatever kind of traumatic way you can
think of and putting on weight keeps them safe because now
they're not attractive to that person anymore and they can keep
themselves in a safe space. So in that case, we have to go

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in and we have to relieve certain traumatic experiences to
release that so they can be safe, they can feel safe
without. Hurting their health.
One thing I've really learned, just through my own experiences
and processes and working with trauma, whatnot, I hadn't
occurred to me that my body could be wanting food as a way

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of calming my nervous system. Even though I teach yoga, I have
all of these breathwork practices.
I know all of the skills. That's the kicker.
It's like I have all of these skills and yet trauma happened
and the body still just doesn't care.
So there was a moment there where I was really being staunch

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strict keto. I think I even went full
carnivore for like a month and Ididn't lose a single pound.
And if I went to the gym, in fact, I would gain pounds
because the cortisol and the adrenaline were so high that it
was like this chemical trauma cocktail in the body.
And then I would feel immense shame.
If I'm doing everything right, Iknow I am.

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This worked before and this isn't working.
What is wrong with me? Do you see a lot of that kind of
thing? I do see some of that and
unfortunately, you know, it is digging into that.
You know, there's no one right answer, of course, right.
But you have to dig into that and find out, figure out where

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that trauma is hitting me and holding me so that I can't move
forward. What, what do I need to resolve
to move forward? And, and food is a quicker way
too. So where do you say, you know,
you have yoga and you have all these somatic breathings?
It's, it's, it takes fractions of a second for that blood sugar

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to hit when you, you know, in the sense where you're
swallowing and that absorption is already sending signals to
the brain, Hey, we're getting food, we're good, we're getting
food. We're, we're in good shape.
So and blood sugar that is, that's kind of been my newest

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exploration technique in the wayof because I I used to be a huge
sweet eater, OK, and it's real easy for me to get out of
control with the sweet, but my blood sugar just just
immediately spice. It's crazy spice and those
cravings that I have were directly related to how quickly

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that blood sugar spike and then how quickly it drops.
So you know, your body wants that comfort and it's going to
go for the quickest way. What is it?
The quickest way I can get therewith the least amount of effort
because we're taught to survive.So, you know, your our body
saying, OK, what's a quick way Ican do it and I can get taken

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care of right now. I don't have to wait.
I don't have to take time to do it.
I don't have to take time to do yoga or breathing.
It wants that immediate fix and that's part of it.
And it's something to like I said, I'm, I'm doing this whole
blood sugar thing right now thatI'm fascinated.
With it's a huge piece. For sure, for sure.

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And there's sugar in everything.There's sugar in everything.
So any processed food you have is going to have sugar in it or
some kind of sugar, yeah. Even when I went carnivore, too
many, too much protein, too higha protein can actually spike
glucose as well. Too much of a good thing, right?
So yeah. And we don't talk enough about

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the sugar and the sugars in yourblood and, and then then again,
everybody's different too. Everybody's different and how
fast their blood sugar flies up and how quickly it comes down,
you know, so it's a fascinating process.
So when you look at it, there's always another thing, you know,
I'm, I'm going to figure out theblood sugar and then something

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else is going to come up. You know, we're so complex.
But yeah, it's it's really fascinating.
I can understand why you work onmindset first, because if the
mindsets not right while you're working on the other pieces of
the puzzle, which there can be numerous.
I'm finding out. And then now as a woman in my
40s, there's the other piece of perimenopause.

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And it's like, oh, well, this isnew, this is fun.
Great. We're we're going to be doing
this for a while, huh? OK.
Like you've got to have that strong mindset.
Yeah. How does somebody know if their
mindset isn't a helpful one? What would be some of the things
they could catch themselves in or lookout for?
Absolutely. So the first thing is going to
be how do you talk to yourself? Is the is the voice that's

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talking to you telling you, Oh my gosh, you didn't do a good
enough job here. You didn't you didn't do this,
you didn't do this, you didn't do this.
Or are you saying, you know what?
You're going to get past it, you're going to move through it.
And you know, I don't know. I have not met one person who
hasn't had some negative self right.

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And one thing I have to remind my clients and my friends and
everybody who's doing this is that negative voice is coming
from negative people that they've heard in the past,
right? Those people aren't them.
So why are they internalizing what that person says?

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Why are they internalizing what that person says?
And you have to, you have to bring that to mind.
But I'm a very, I'm also a very visual person.
So I have to, when that does happen for me, because I have it
too. I'm much better than I used to
be, but I will occasionally havesomething that happen and I
literally have to say no, but shit out I'm going this, this is

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where I'm going. And I keep the visualization of
what I want to be. What do I want to feel like?
What do I want to look like? What do I want to, you know,
what do I want for my future? And I keep that so that I can
push that out and say, no, I'm going, this is not where I am
anymore. I'm here.
And it takes some work and it takes some practice of course,

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but it is it has been extremely beneficial.
Yeah, I can see that for sure. And I think we've become so
conditioned to wanting the quickfix, wanting things to be
instant, instant gratification, especially with the Internet and
the way that it's changed our brains.
So setbacks are going to be natural.

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They're going to be normal. And I have to remind myself
constantly of when I lost the 70lbs on keto the first time.
It wasn't because I had seven months of perfection.
There were moments of, you know what?
Today's a baked potato day. I don't care since that
happened, but I didn't let it hold me up.

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It was like, OK, I'm having one good carb up meal and I'm going
to move right along. Yeah, and you were better than I
was because I'll tell you what, when I, when when I went through
it, I and I was, I grew up a BigSugar.
I was very much sugar motivated.I was I had a huge sweet tooth.

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I still have to very much watch what I eat in the way of sugar
because it's easily, I'm easily triggered to get back into that
habit. So I very much have to watch
myself on that. But I literally, I remember 1
Christmas, my husband and I livein Nashville and it's just us
down here now. Our my daughter lives in Boston,
my parents and my brother and sister all are in Indianapolis.

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So we were kind of by ourselves and I made my grandma sugar
cook. Those are my favorite is her
little rolled out sugar cookies.I think I ate that whole batch
in in or close to that whole batch that one night.
And I was like, what am I doing?And then I just went, you know
what, I'm OK, It's going to be OK.

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This isn't the end of the this isn't like the end of an era is
not, you know, a, a slippery slope.
It's a I had to catch myself andbe like, I'm OK.
I needed to do that. I did it.
Yeah. And we're gonna get past it.
There's so many things in there,there are just so many different
points to look at. But right now, I'm actually in

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the throes of fighting with Candida.
So when you're quick, when you're saying, you know, sugar
habit, I'm just like, hmm, or isit the gut bacteria that's
saying, hey, you've been feedingme like this for so long now you
expect me to change you? Know right and that's absolutely
going to cause those cravings and that yeah, because that

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Anita wants that sugar. They want that quick.
What will what will result in the sugar upswing quick for
sure. And that's not an easy, that's
not an easy Rd. And I, I give it to you because
it's not easy. We can talk more about it
though. But yeah, it's.
Not a fast one. No, we do.
Have something that is immenselyhelpful.

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So something that I have been doing.
So aside from fasting, I'm, I'm pretty good about fasting.
I'm able to, to do what I can dolong fast and it doesn't phase
me in the least. As soon as I get past that like
18 to 24 hour mark, I'm good. I can go for a 72 hour fast and
I know that not everybody has gotten to that point yet.

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What used to be hard was after fasting, then I would have to be
careful not to like binge. I'd have to catch myself in like
old neurology playing out and being like, oh, OK, you you've
been fasting. There was famine now feast.
And it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to have a tiny little portion going to let that, you
know, manage and sink in and stuff like that.

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Where was I going with that? Yeah.
Something I've learned actually is to make a cinnamon and clove
tea and cinnamon and clove together.
Will one reduce insulin? The clove will actually fight
parasites and kill off some of the candida.
It acts as a natural appetite suppressant, but it's also

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attacking those bad gut bacteriaat the same time.
So that for sugar cravings has been a lifesaver.
And I started doing that becauseI was getting COVID regularly
and I just wanted something to help with the brain fog and that
actually did. Wow that's awesome I had not
heard that. So cinnamon and clove tea I'm
definitely going to make a note of.

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That I've got a blog post that Isent, I'll send you.
But what I came across it, I wasn't doing it for that effect.
I wasn't doing it for the the killer sugar cravings to go
away. I was doing it just to feel
better with COVID because they also take down congestion and
inflammation in the body. So the appetite suppressant and

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then the no sugar cravings was acomplete surprise for me.
And it's like, oh, this is this is game changer.
Wonderful. But that's like one of those
little stacking habits that you talk about, you know, and it's
not something that I have to do every day, but it's like if I
feel an uptick in something, it's like, oh, I've got
something for this. I don't have to go running to
the first bad thing that comes up.

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Yeah, that's awesome. That's a great, what a great
find on that. Great job.
Yeah, I'll blame Doctor Berg forthat.
That's that was him who mostly he talks about clove water, but
I love to add cinnamon. Yeah, cinnamon.
Well, cinnamon is such a good spice anyway with, you know,

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insulin regulation and everything there.
And I love cinnamon anything. So it has cinnamon in it.
I'm I'm down with it. It's awesome.
You were talking about cravings before, and I was kind of
thinking about like how sometimes when I'm in a good

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mindset, I'll actually stop and ask myself what I need.
It's like, oh, do I actually want sugar?
Or is it that I'm thirsty and I really need salt?
Is it sodium? My body's craving and it's so
disrupted on how it asks for that, that I'm getting like the
wrong signal. Sure, and that's one thing that,

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and you just mentioned a really good thing like having salt and
not realizing like you really need salt or minerals in your in
your whether it be in your water, whether it be in your
food. I actually so one way that I try
to make sure I get enough minerals and I'm I'm not as good
about it as I, I probably shouldhave more because I I do work

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out. I do sweat a lot.
So to be gross, but I do and youhave to have fun pics.
You are a baddie in the gym 100%.
Don't let her be humble on this,ladies and gentlemen.
It's, it's how I, it's one thingI do to, to really, I really
push in the gym now. I do go easy on myself too.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not hardcore 100% all the time, but
I'm going to really like, I'm going to really push it like I
want to be as strong as I can be.
I want to be, you know, as as mobile as I can be because like
you said, we're, I'm in my, I'm in my later 40s.
So you got to figure I'm in this, I'm in a new stage of life
here. So I'm with navigating hormone

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changes and everything else. You know, I, it's really
important that we maintain our nutrients, our minerals, our
vitamins. One thing I do, I put salt in my
coffee. So I, I have a couple cups of
coffee in the morning and I willput a little bit of Celtic sea
salt in my coffee and it then I have, I make the darker coffee,

(30:52):
it's a little more bitter. And then I put the salt on it
and it's less bitter. Look it.
And now my coffee tastes better.So.
So now I can't go anywhere without putting the salt in my.
Yeah, but my mom actually, when she used to bake, she would add
salt into her recipes to bring out the sweet, and I always
remembered that. Yeah, and that's one thing.

(31:13):
I have AI have a beloved recipe from my grandmother.
She made banana bread and and there's a little bit of salt in
there. And without the salt, it tastes
different. And we're talking only like 5 or
six ingredients. So we're talking like flour,
eggs, sugar, bananas and vanilla, you know, and I think

(31:35):
baking powder, right? Or baking soda.
And, and if you don't put the salt in there, it changes it.
But yeah, there is the difference.
I now put it. A friend had told me that she
puts it on her watermelon. And I was kind of like.
I've heard that. I love watermelon, but I don't

(31:55):
want to put salt on it. Oh, now I put salt on it.
I put salt on it now and I eat it and it's you want it to be a
good. The one good thing is don't just
put iodized salt on there. Get yourself a good healthy sea
salt or a pink Himalayan sea salt, something that's got the
mineral still in it and put a little, just a little bit.
Don't put. I'm not saying sprinkle at all

(32:16):
over, but it makes a difference and it does bring out the
sweetness. Same with tomatoes, right?
There's another good one, but it's, yeah, that's a thing.
It's a good thing. And I think maybe that's partly
why, though, our brains get thatsignal mixed up of craving sugar
or food when actually what we are is seeking hydration, right?

(32:38):
We're thirsty. Yeah.
Yeah, and and you don't have to worry so much about.
I did have a client ask me like if I put salt and everything
though, aren't I going to, you know, aren't I going to blow up?
Am I going to like retain all this water?
And I'm like, we're not putting in tablespoons of salt.
We're just sprinkling a little bit and your drinks on occasion,
you know, on your food. We're not talking massive

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amounts of sodium here. So this shouldn't cause, you
know, you to retain a bunch of water that.
Trying to remember where I read it, it was just in the past like
24 hours, but I read that sometimes people retain water
because they are actually dehydrated.
So the body is trying to save every little bit that it gets,
and it's like, oh, that makes a lot of sense.

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Then you have that right and, and part of that too is your
body's not getting minerals it needs.
So it's holding on to whatever it can trying to, you know,
it's, I'm going to probably makea, an unequal, you know,
comparison here, but it reminds me of where women in

(33:45):
perimenopause, for instance. So as our estrogen is depleting,
we have a secondary ball storageof, of estrogen in our fat.
So what happens is our bodies start to deplete our muscles and
then it holds on to the fat because it's trying to hold on
to that estrogen storage. So there's another thing.

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So you've heard, have you heard the term meno belly, right?
The meno belly, right? So our bodies are trying to hold
on to that fat because they're trying to hold on to those
hormones, which, you know, I'm equivaling it to, to salt here,
but it's, it's not an exact comparison, but it's similar
where our bodies will hold on tosomething and hopes to, to, to

(34:28):
have that secondary gain from it.
So I didn't know that. That's incredible.
Yeah, it's it's This is why I I recommend for as long as you are
physically able, you're you check with your doctor, there's
issues. I highly recommend lifting and
you're if if you're a woman over35, start lifting now because

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you know, as you get into that paramenopause and I'm there, I'm
full in it right now. It is not the funnest time of
your life. I will for those of you who have
not been here yet, for those of you who have been here, I, I
honor you. It's not it is not for the weak.
It is not. And but I lift heavy on purpose

(35:12):
because I want to keep as much muscle as I can.
I am very strong. I'm not bulky.
I'm not, you know, and everybody's still worried like
aren't you going to look like? Aren't you going to look like a
man? I'm like, you can if you want
to, but you don't have to. You can lift heavy and, and
still, you know, have good body form and all that kind of thing.

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So don't be afraid to lift heavy.
But the more we build that muscle, it more forces our
bodies to use that some of that bad storage because our bodies
really at this point want to hold on to it because they want
to hold on to whatever estrogen they can as we're going through
this. So it's and you know, all the on

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top of all the symptoms and things that are going on with
our mind and our bodies at the same time, it's not an easy
transition, so. No.
And we are not really set up forit within the way the medical
system currently works. It's not.
Somebody sent me a video, I wantto say it was Freya, and it was

(36:18):
absolutely atrocious because it was this video talking about a
Doctor Who had a, a WW. And Aww is what they call a
whiny woman who comes in and does all of the tests and
everything comes back clear and they don't understand what's
happening. So they think she's just
exaggerating her symptoms. And really what's happening is

(36:38):
it's what you've just talked about.
It's all of the changes occurring in the body.
It's, you know, the body doing things differently all of a
sudden. Now she's got more joint pain,
her cortisol is higher. And it's all of all of these
processes happening in the body that we don't even pay attention
to, that we haven't even really looked at.

(36:59):
So we're just kind of hanging and there's more visibility to
it now, which is great. But we should have been thinking
about this years and years ago, you know, and helped so many
women before us, you know? I look at my mother and I look
at my grandmother and I'm like, oh, I understand what was

(37:20):
happening now. They were having severe joint
pain. They weren't just, you know, not
wanting to participate in a yogaclass, wanting to do stairs.
It's like, oh, they had no idea.They were, you know, going
through menopause and change in the body, just being so
different and having different needs.
They didn't even and but they were so stoic that they never

(37:41):
complained about it. They never really got help for
it and there was no system to understand them.
So to hear that doctors actuallyhave a term where they call
their patients WW is terrifying to me.
So. Sure, for sure.
And I, I do, I do absolutely encourage anybody who's starting
to go through that, are startingto feel a little bit different,

(38:01):
whether their libido is low, whether they're having trouble
sleeping, whether they're heavenbrain fog that they weren't
having before, their periods arechanging.
You know, once we start getting into this phase of life, we
don't know, we don't have like ameasurable journey of how this
is going to go for each woman. So I do encourage you to see

(38:23):
your OBGYN or see somebody who specializes in even HRT and and
hormones just to get an idea of where you're at, where you might
be lacking, what you can do and not.
I'm not saying you have to go onHRTI am on low dose HRT.
So just to be fully transparent,I am on a testosterone cream, a

(38:47):
bioidentical cream and a progesterone tablet as well.
It was to the point. So sure, I would have loved to
have been able to do it naturally and, and not not take
anything because I try not to take too much if I don't have
to. But I'll tell you what, I got to

(39:08):
a point where I almost felt likeI couldn't function like I
wasn't thinking clearly. I wasn't I'm, you know, trying
to help clients and two things that I'm like what?
Like I, it was like my brain wasjust saying, does not compute
right now. We're not doing it like we're
not doing it. And then the sleep disturbances

(39:29):
where I would, I honestly, I wasvery lucky that I was one of
those people who could sleep like a baby.
That's not so much true anymore.I mean, it's gotten better than
it was, But like, we need that sleep to function.
We need that sleep to get that cortisol out of our system.
We need, we need rest. And we do have to find ways to

(39:52):
do that. And I do highly recommend that
they, you know, you talk to yourdoctor, that, you know, even
have your significant other talkto your doctor with you so they
understand what you're going from.
Very lucky and very supportive spouse, But it's not, I'm sure
it's not easy for him someday. So because it does, it changes

(40:16):
like it can change tomorrow and and your hormones do need to be
monitored. So after if you do go on like
HRT or something like that. You're going to want to be
monitored in over 8 weeks and see how you're doing.
What are your levels at? Are they in a normal range?
Are they good? And now your hormone levels are
changing all the time. So this isn't exact science so

(40:40):
but it's important that you monitor those and see where
you're at. There is help is is what I'm
trying to say. There is help.
So for those women who are in this demographic right now where
they're either just about to go through the change, they're
going through the change, or they've been going through the
change and they're realizing they need to make more changes

(41:02):
purposefully and to improve their health and their
longevity, how do you get started with them?
What kinds of things are you going to start building into
their mindset and their new journey?
Yeah. So the first thing we're going
to talk about is where do you want to go?
What do you want overall? Like, is there a certain way you
want to look and feel and be? And, and there's no shame and,

(41:25):
and having that. I want to look this way or I
want to, you know, everybody. It's kind of weird about vanity,
but I, it's a real thing. And especially for women who
are, you know, when we grew up, we were taught we were supposed
to look pretty and, and all the things and, and that mindset
doesn't just leave you. So it's important to honor

(41:47):
wherever that your client or wherever you as a person want to
be. That's OK.
So stick with that. But we need to find out where
you want to go. But during this time, one thing
that I always do try to encourage my clients to do is
let's start eliminating some of the processed food you're on.

(42:09):
Because the the cleaner, we can go with the natural food to get
our natural nutrients. We get our minerals that we
need. We get the fibers that we need.
It's going to help us so much more than a lot of the processed
food. That's going to cause a lot of
inflammation. It's going to cause it can cause
mood swings. We have a lot of sugar
substitutes that have all kinds of chemicals and additives that

(42:33):
we don't need to have. I'm not saying you have to
eliminate everything, but start slow and start little.
So what can you eliminate or what can you make instead of
buying processed? What can you make at home and,
and, and still like it and tastegood and still have the feelings

(42:54):
you have? Because I don't want you to eat.
I don't want you to hate what you're eating.
I don't want you to hate what you're doing.
This is this is your journey. This is your journey for the
rest of your life. This should be sustainable.
So we want to make good changes that feel good, not painful
experiences like when people first go on a diet and everybody
does good for the first week or two, right?

(43:15):
But they're killing themselves doing it.
That's why they quit. No, they're not in that mindset
that they want to do this. This is just a temporary hurry
up and let's get it done so I can be normal again, you know?
And then all of the gut bacteriaare like, what's going on?
We've had, you know, somebody decades of living a certain way,
and you want us to do what now? You might not even have the
right gut bacteria to break downthe new things that you're

(43:36):
eating. For sure.
One thing that I really enjoyed and I saw you do really, really
well was this summer you had a 30 day challenge where you were
helping people to start to shifttheir mindset.
And I loved this concept you hadof let's add one thing in.
Don't worry about what we're taking away, Add one good thing

(43:57):
in. Can you say more about some of
what you explored in the 30 days?
Yeah. Absolutely.
You know, so much in, well, justin diet culture in general.
And, and if you tell somebody they need to, to release weight
or, or they want to lose weight,the automatic mindset is what am
I going to have to give up? What am I going to have to get

(44:18):
up, give up to get there? That's not.
And yeah, I, you know, 40 years ago, you know, 80s diet culture.
Yeah, that's what you did. You had the cabbage soup diet,
right? Or you had the you had the I saw
a recent, it was an article thatwas published in like AI don't

(44:41):
know if it was a Cosmo, somebody's going to know what I
was talking about, but it was like a Cosmo magazine or
something. And it was a diet plan and it
was 1 egg 1/2 a cup of oatmeal. And then for lunch, it was like
a glass of white wine, you know,like, like it was very, I think
there was like 809 hundred calories.

(45:03):
Oh no. They and I was just like, and
two of those two of those thingson that list were two glasses of
wine for for lunch and dinner, which I thought was funny
because, you know, yeah, it's probably the only way they got
through that diet, right? That's a rabbit hole I'm going
to restrain myself from going down, you know, But because the
effects of alcohol, especially after 40, are really, really

(45:25):
hard. Will we talk about, like that
brain fog? That is a huge element.
There was a research study done not long ago saying that women
who have one glass of wine at night, the effects on the body
are equivalent to like a high school football kid getting hit
in the head, getting a concussion.
Like the effects are that severewhen you're talking about like

(45:47):
that diet. I'm just like, wow, that's
absurd. Yeah.
Yeah, it. Was crazy.
I couldn't believe it. Like lunch and dinner, glass of
wine. And I'm like, that's the only
way they made it through the diet is the drink.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't joke about that, but it is true.
But this is awful. Just a horrible diet.
And I. Think it exists for a reason,
though, and I think it's that one piece.
It's the mindset piece that you already talked about, but it's

(46:09):
also the level of desperation that people go through when they
don't understand their bodies orwhat's happening or what their
needs are. Absolutely, and that's why that
adding in is where it's important.
I try to tell people when, for instance, when I was on my
weight journey, I, I told you I really struggled with sugar.

(46:31):
Sugar was my, I could eat bags sugar like and not get sick.
My stomach was like ironclad, noproblem.
You know, I could handle the sugar.
And I remember telling a coach one time I went through like a,
it was like a six week thing. I signed up at the gym I was
with and I was talking to the coach and she was said something

(46:55):
about like at night before bed you can have two pieces of
chocolate. And I'm like, no, I can't.
And I said I'm not going to eat that.
So put something else in there. And she's like, what was the
problem? And I told her my my problem was
sugar. And she looked at me and she
goes, it's not like you're an addict.
And that's when I knew that wasn't the coach for me because

(47:15):
I told her I said, but I feel like an addict.
Like I feel like if I eat two ofthose, I won't stop.
I'll eat the whole bag like I can't.
For me, that was she's like, you're not addicted.
And I said I don't think you understand where I'm at because
I couldn't do it. And it's it's so important.

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I don't want to tell people theycan't have things, but I'll tell
them you have it. But do this first before you
have it or you have it. I want you to take even if it's
like take 5 deep breaths, like big deep breaths.
Gratitude, you know, Hey, I'm thankful I have a house to live
in. I'm thankful that I have a

(48:03):
wonderful family. I'm thankful, you know, do your
gratitude practice have a thing,but add in because those things
are going to be the addictive thing that becomes and replaces
stuff because some you'll get toa point and it may take a while.
This isn't a quick fix. Where you know how I got off

(48:26):
sugar is I would make myself eata piece of fruit first before I
would eat whatever horrible dessert that I really wanted.
And it was usually a pretty horrible dessert, so.
I thought you were going to say like first thing in the morning
because I'm the opposite. If I have something sweet first
thing in the morning, I am in trouble for the rest of the day.

(48:47):
I am too, but if I do a solid protein I'll be OK.
Yeah, I completely agree. I have found that for myself as
well because as soon as I get onthat blood sugar spike, I stay
on it all day long. So it is, but before I would
have something sweet and this would be later in the day, it
would not be first thing in the morning because yeah, if I start

(49:08):
first thing in the morning, I'm downhill.
Although you. Go localize emic though.
So if you're sticking with like the berries and sugar free
whipped cream, by the time you do that you're not even going to
want dessert. You'll be fine.
Well, and that's what ends up happening.
So you're eating this fruit or and I love Peaches and I loved I
had these wonderful oranges 1 summer that were just so sweet

(49:30):
and so good And I was just, I must have been craving vitamin C
because all I wanted was these oranges and I just ate a ton of
them. There's a local bar in the area
that would use the orange peels and they would give me the
oranges after they took like allthe peel off of them and I would
I would eat the crap out of these horses.

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OK, so you didn't? Even have the deterrent of
having to work for it, you know.Thanks but no thanks.
You're not helping me. I ate so many oranges that
summer. It was so great.
But it was when I would eat thatand then I would eat the dessert
and for a while that was fine. And then all of a sudden I was

(50:14):
like me and I just want another orange or I just want another
piece. And it started replacing that
that extra thing that I didn't really need, whether it be a
handful of Oreos or a piece of chocolate cake or whatever.
It started tasting more chemical.
It started tasting more fake. It didn't taste like that orange

(50:37):
did and it didn't. And I know some people would be
like that can't happen. It really did.
It was, it literally changed my taste buds to where I went back
to eating some of this and I'd be like.
Yeah, it's not as that's that's how people are eating raw onions

(50:57):
like an apple, because if you goand you get fat adapted within
30 days, your taste, you will smell chemicals in the air.
Like I can't be full out a stringent keto and go into a
Walmart. I can smell the process.
It's like, I can't even, you know, when I think about like,
Domino's Pizza or something, I hate to call them out, but there

(51:20):
is something in there that is not natural.
And I can smell it, you know? And so there's that weird
connection in the brain that happens where you're like, oh,
I'm craving this thing and you haven't had it for like 30 days.
And then you smell it and you'relike, I don't want this.
This isn't what I remember it being.

(51:41):
Do you see that often? Yeah, all the time.
All the time, especially with myself.
So weird. I know it is and it's great
though. But this is where those little
bitty habits we're adding in starts to eliminate the crap you
don't want. And that's what helps me change.
And so I'm glad you pointed thatout because I do love adding

(52:03):
things because I hate to feel deprived.
I hate it when people say you can't have this and you can't
have that. And because I had a weight
problem growing up and my my momwould never say anything like
that. But my grandma was relentless.
And I can't eat that, I should say.
Not my grandma, my great grandmaand my great grandma.

(52:24):
You know, as you get older, thatfilter wanes a little bit.
And and she was, shouldn't be eating that.
Absolutely. You know, it was.
Yeah. So it was, you know, you know,
you have that ingrained that youcan't eat this, can't eat that,
and you can't do this and you and that.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

(52:46):
I think I have the opposite problem.
It was. Here's a cookie and here's one
for the other hand. Come back and see me later.
The woman, although I loved her,my mamare loved through food.
And I think that's what happens sometimes in my nervous system.
It's like, oh, what I really want is that love.
I really want my mamare. That feeling of safety and

(53:06):
security. It's not the Mac and cheese,
it's the mamare that I. Wanted and think about that too.
Like I have the same experience.If I think back in the
childhood, you know, my grandmother had twelve children.
So we had a big, our Christmasesare big, we had big family, lots
of grandkids all running around,all that.

(53:28):
And my grandma would make 10's and 10s of Christmas cookies,
all different kinds of Christmascookies, right?
And those experiences that I loved with my family were
surrounded by all this good food, all this, you know, no
store bought stuff. It was fresh and it was, it was,
you know, the turkeys and the hams and the cookies and the

(53:50):
salads and the, all the things and the potatoes and, you know,
all these big and they, they, you're surrounded with love and
this good food. And it creates that that link
with that food, which is probably why I went to town on
those, those Christmas cookies that one year, especially

(54:10):
because, you know, it's that oldfeeling that it brings you back
to that warmth and that, that love.
You know, our celebrations are centered around food.
I mean, not everybody's, but most people's are surrounded by
food. And it's that good feeling I
like. What you're talking about,
although about having the piece of fruit before the dessert,

(54:31):
because it shows us that we can still do it, that what fires
together wires together. And even though we had these
experiences in childhood, and yes, absolutely you can work
with a hypnotherapist like me orlike Callie to be able to
disconnect those, but you can also be making new ones in the
process. And that's where somebody like
Callie is going to be really keyon your journey.

(54:52):
You know what? And it's important for
everybody, if they're considering a coach or a
hypnotist to find the right one for them.
I might not be the best one for everybody.
You may not be the best one for everybody, but you find one that
you resonate with, that you feelgood when you talk to that
person with. And it's, it's very much like
doctors. You know, I've, I've gone to a

(55:13):
doctor that I absolutely didn't like and did I go back?
Absolutely not. So you're going to find one that
works better for you. And that's what you should do.
You got to find the right fit. And it's, it's very important.
And that's part of your journey too.
You want everything you do, whoever you see, who you spend
time with, you want them to be good experiences.

(55:34):
You want to find the right fit. So that's very important.
I think that you made a really great point there.
So if somebody's hearing this today and they're really
enjoying your energy, the like your vibe, they're enjoying the
things they've heard, how do they get started with you?
So you can visit me on my website at calirempus.com.

(55:55):
I also have a Facebook that's Sally Rempus same way, and I'm
also on Instagram. So as Cali Rempus, you can find
me on TikTok at Hypno Coach Caliand you can reach out to me in
any of those places and I'd be happy to talk to you.
And so I know that you've got also the Warrior Life four week

(56:18):
Jumpstart program. Do you want to tell us a little
bit about that? I do, I'd love to.
So why have a Warrior Life Jumpstart program?
It is AI, call it a four week program.
You can extend it longer, but it's all about creating these
little changes. It's getting your mindset in the
right place and then making these little changes.
It's a pre recorded program where you can go in and you go

(56:43):
at your own pace. So you start with week 1.
It's going to tell you the things you want to look at, the
kind of things you want to do. It's setting your goals.
You know, where do I want to go from here?
One thing I found is a lot of people are stuck in their own
head where I'm afraid to stay here.
I'm afraid to stay here. Well, good table that because we
need to go here. Where is here?

(57:04):
What's here look like? What is forward look like and
getting out of that fear and lack mindset to go where am I
going? Where do I want to go?
So it's starting with mental andyour mental aspects.
Then we talk about food, we talkabout exercise, we talk about
what kind of food you eat as we go through.

(57:28):
And then there's also hypnosis recordings in there to help you
get started. Here's your jumpstart for week
1. Here's your jumpstart for Week
2. So you have each week has its
own hypnosis recording and then there's also supplemental
recordings. So if you're struggling with
cravings one day, if you're struggling with energy one day,

(57:49):
if you need help sleeping, there's one in there for that.
So there's supplemental recordings that you can go
through as well to just keep yourself back on track.
And these are, these are just keeping your goals in mind.
These are helping you create that path to where to actually
be able to see where you're going, where you want to go.

(58:11):
So it's a four week course. You, you know, like I said, at
your own pace, you, it may take you 2 weeks to do week 1 and
that's OK. But then each one of these weeks
is buildable. So for your mindset on week 1,
you can also build on to that. And I want to go a little
farther with this. And the program enables you to

(58:32):
do that. And there's, there's a week for
exercise, which is the same way.Build up on your exercise a
little bit more. And it's all about little
changes, little bitty changes. That'll that.
That's what, that's how we change.
So it's not doing it all at once.
It's the little bitty changes. I did have a client say, oh, I
already finished weeks one and two.

(58:53):
And I'm like dial back a little bit, just dial it back.
I just just concentrate on week one.
You're on day three. I want you to stay on week 1.
I want to at least stay on that week 1 and extend it.
And yeah, it'll, you know, you need time to integrate and then

(59:13):
that goal may change. That goal for Week 1 May change
for you. So it's it's finding yourself in
that. That sounds like a really
powerful foundation to start andthen to also really learn some
things through the process. When that person who wanted to
jump in on day three and into Week 2, I wonder if that was,

(59:35):
you know, just their mind, theirbody, their spirit showing them,
hey, there's a little bit of fear here that you're not going
to be consistent. So rush in and do all the things
rather than know you can trust yourself to see this through.
Yeah, and that's what, that's what I tried to tell you, you
know, that everybody you know, you can trust yourself.
This is just a little bitty thing.

(59:55):
This might take you 5 minutes. Don't worry.
It's just 5 minutes. It's just 5 minutes.
It's like what I tell people when I don't want to go to the
gym because there are days when I don't want to go to the gym.
I feel like, OK, 10 minutes, I got four sets in.
I got to get four sets in. OK, I can do that.
And then I end up staying and doing the whole darn thing.
But but you got to give yourselfpermission to say I'm going to

(01:00:18):
spend 5 minutes on myself today because you have to come first.
You know, we have to, you know, especially for women, we're
taught not to put ourselves 1st and we have to put ourselves and
I'm giving you permission right now, like Amanda myself, we are
giving you permission to put yourself for because you have to

(01:00:39):
it's. Huge.
It really is. That's huge.
And then there's, I love that you touched on this point.
I spoke to, you know, him very, very well, Matt Dixon, a little
while ago, and we were talking about like ways to make yoga
more consistent. And it was this concept of, OK,
I'm just going to do a couple ofrounds of something.
It doesn't have to be a whole hour practice.

(01:01:00):
So those days when you don't want to go to the gym, it
doesn't have to be a whole gym day.
I actually used that last Fridayto go to yoga.
And so I went and I wasn't feeling good, you know, like my
body was doing all kinds of stuff.
And it's like, you know what, I'm just going to tell my
practitioner, this is where I'm at.
I'm having joint pain, stiffness, I'm going to do what
I can. And then whatever happens,

(01:01:21):
happens. And so I did, I let her know
flat out. And then my body did whatever it
wanted to do and surprised me. And I had no pain through the
practice. And then I felt amazing after.
So not only did I last over an hour, it was the mental hurdle
of just, oh, I have to go do this thing for X amount of time.
And it's like, no, let's just doa little.

(01:01:42):
So I'm finding little ways to implement some of what you've
taught me just through, you knowwhat, I'm just going to do a
couple of wall push ups right now.
Let's see where I go and who knows what follows, because then
the energy is there and the serotonin and the dopamine and
all of the good things start to show up.
Yeah. Yeah.
And that's the excellent thing about it.
And if and if you only do that 5minutes, you only do that 10

(01:02:04):
minutes, OK. And it's OK to to honor yourself
to say, you know what feeling itthat day.
I mean, trust me, I have my daystoo where I, you know,
especially being in this time oflife, you know, sometimes you'd
wake up and literally everythinghurts and like what the world is
happening, you know, and you have to.
That's right. Thinking about this weekend, I'm

(01:02:26):
hobbled out of bed, my husband'slooking at me like I'm 80.
And it's like, listen, you're not in this body.
You don't even get to make a face.
It's, you know, and it's, it's sometimes, you know, it's just
sitting there and saying, you know what, I'm just going to
rest this one out and that's OK.And honor yourself with that
because sometimes you just need that.

(01:02:48):
And I, I will say though, that I, I lift heavy usually about
every 12 to 14 weeks. I will take a full week off of
lifting and, and you know, I'll take a walk or do whatever.
I don't do heavy cardio. I'll do a little bit here and
there. I'm not a fan of the cardio for
myself. So it's just it's just something

(01:03:11):
that I have always been like, you know, I'll dance in the
kitchen, do all that all day long, right?
But when it comes to lifting, like you got to, you got to take
a take a give yourself a breather.
And it's amazing how strong you come back that week after and
you're like, oh, oh, you just needed to you just needed some

(01:03:32):
sleep. No.
I mean, those 5 minute wall pushups, it seems like nothing to
it, but within a couple of days I noticed a difference.
It's better than not doing 5 minutes, right?
It's it's already it adds. Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely, absolutely. It's those little changes that
make a difference, and it's gonna create the lasting
changing. Sure.

(01:03:54):
Well, well, I will just say thatKelly, you've been an absolute
light in the amount of time thatI've gotten to know you.
I love your warmth, your sense of humour, your humility, your
kindness. And I hope that people will see
this and know that there is hopethat they can make little
changes and get to where they want to get and they just have

(01:04:15):
to work with the right people toget there.
And I admire you so much for this wonderful podcast and thank
you so much for having me on. I appreciate you so much and
thank you for letting me know mystory and.
Help people, Thank you so much for sharing.
I could have spoken to you for at least a few more hours.
We may have to do well. Thank you so much for being here

(01:04:40):
and soulful seekers. Stay happy, stay healthy, but
most of all, stay inspired. Bye for now.

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