March 31, 2025 • 39 mins
This week on the Travel Australia Podcast, we’re diving into an extraordinary tale of love, courage, and boundless adventure. Join us for a heartfelt and inspiring conversation with Paul’s parents, Lyn and Peter Guerin, as they share their remarkable journey through 55 years of marriage and a life lived boldly.
From falling in love and marrying during Peter’s conscription to the Vietnam War, to raising seven children under ten(yes, you read that right!) while embracing a lifestyle far from conventional—Lyn and Peter’s story is a testament to the power of love, faith, and fearless decision-making.
You’ll hear how they made the bold move to the Gold Coast despite all odds, and how in 1988, they packed up their lives and took their family of 9 on a six-month road trip across the USA in a dusty old Winnebago—well before #vanlife was even a thing!
Now in their 70s, this dynamic duo continues to embrace life on the road, living part-time in their Jayco caravan and adventuring overseas whenever they can. Their story will make you laugh, reflect, and maybe even rethink what’s possible for your own life journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Travel Australia podcast.
We are Paul, Katie and Jasperfrom the Feel Good family.
Join us as we explore thisgreat country, Australia, its
people, places and cultures.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, it's the Travel Australia podcast, where we
share the latest in RV industrynews road trip travel,
caravanning and camping, productreviews, guest interviews and
so much more.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This week we have an extra special episode with
special guests Lynne and PeterGuerin.
Their story is not only goingto inspire you, but it will
inspire your journey ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Absolutely, pauline.
Now look, this is one episodeI've been looking for for a very
long time, and, in fact, we didtease this a couple of weeks
ago on our podcast, when we weretalking about amazing people
with amazing stories, and Lynnand Peter are two of those very
inspirational people.
And not only are they yourbeautiful mum and dad, paul, of
(01:05):
course, they're myparents-in-law and they are, in
fact, sitting opposite me, so wehave to be really nice and give
them all the compliments in theworld, but they've made plenty
of cameos across our contentover the years, haven't they,
paulie?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
They sure have.
Of course, you know, aka PapaFeel Good and Granny Feel Good,
as you guys are getting knownaround the traps now on our
YouTube and TV show.
But, guys, 55 years, you'vejust celebrated your wedding
anniversary and the storystarted a little bit before that
.
Let's go back to the beginning.
Mum, we'll start with you.
Where did it all start?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Okay, it started in a ballroom studio in the heart of
Brisbane City.
I danced as a child, rightthrough, but I hadn't done
ballroom dancing, and so Idiscovered this amazing studio
that said walk up, dance down.
I talked to my parents actuallyinto taking me back after work,
and that's where it all started.
That's where I met.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Peter and Dad, you just happened to be in Brizzy.
You're a Melbourne lad, so whatwere you doing in Brizzy?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That's right.
Well, I was being conscriptedinto the army and was to go
overseas to Vietnam for the12-month duty over there, and
before I went I had to come uphere to Enoggera in Queensland
and then out to Cronunga,cronunga, cronungra.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Cronungra.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You know where it is?
It's right near Katila, anyway.
Another story Anyway.
So, yes, went out to Kanungrafor three weeks jungle training
before I had to go over toVietnam, and then in that time I
also went ballroom dancing andthat's where I met the true love
of my life.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Wow, okay, but I mean , was it love at first sight?
I mean there was obviously alot of men there and a lot of
women there.
How did you guys line up?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay, so that's the story.
Girls and boys.
It was mainly young people andwe were very young, and all the
girls on one side of the roomand all the boys on the other,
and so then you're partneredwith the person directly
opposite you, but there was thisvery handsome young man that
was opposite down the line alittle bit, but he kept moving
so that he lined up with me, andso we ended up dancing together
(03:14):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
But I also had hair in those days.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
How old were you?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
guys, when you met Okay, I wasn't quite 17.
And Peter was.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Must've been about 21,.
Yes, wow.
And then you really only had ashort time together, didn't you?
Before you were off overseas,peter, to Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That was a short time .
How long was it all together?
Three months.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Wow, so it was a fast romance and obviously you were
destined to be together.
Let's talk about that timewhere you were away, peter,
because I find this soincredible.
And again, paul, we touched onthis a couple of weeks ago on
the podcast, when and we'll getto this story this is the whole
(03:55):
reason why we wanted to talk toyou guys today about how, when
you took the family overseas andwe don't have all of that
technology that we enjoy today,all of those conveniences at our
fingertips Well, when you wentto Vietnam, peter, how did you
guys stay in touch?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, of course, in those days, writing letters was.
There was no email, but yousure could write letters, and we
also used the reel-to-reelvoice tapes, and we would make
those every, probably everysecond day.
And the one good thing the Armydid do while we were over there
was have a great mail system,and they would get those to us
(04:34):
pretty quick and, oh, of course,free.
So with what they chargenowadays, that was a pretty good
deal, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, but I mean, you're still like.
You know, jasper, the internetcircle of death.
You know the wheel of death.
It'll be buffering for threeseconds and you'll be like oh,
it's not working anymore.
What was the timeline yourecord this reel to reel?
Was it like an eight mil reel,Three inch?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
we'd call it then Right, was it three inch little
tapes?
They were little.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, just tapes.
Okay, but how long the?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
anticipation must have healed you, yeah, of
waiting to get them.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, of course you'd have to then wait for mail call
, which they would have a mailcall every day, but of course,
as I said, it wasn't too bad theservice that we got from the
mail system, and probably thelongest we might have waited was
probably a week, so three orfour days, not too bad, that's
remarkable.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Might have waited was probably a week.
So three or four days, not toobad, that's remarkable.
And so then, how long were youactually serving over in Vietnam
before you had that moment tobe able to come back to
Australia and SEMA?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You know, I had 12 months service over there, but
after six months you were ableto have a seven day R&R and you
had a choice to go to I think itmight have been Bangkok or you
could come home, or you couldjust stay in country and go to
the Grand Hotel.
So I decided to come home and,in writing letters back and
(05:56):
forward to Lynn and also herparents, we had decided to
become engaged.
Wow.
And then we decided, or Ithought, well, if I'm coming
home to be engaged, why don't weget married?
In the same week, yes, in theweek.
What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, and that's right.
And can I tell a little storyabout the letters writing?
Once we were in the flow of it,we had mail every day.
I think Peter possibly wouldhave had the same thing
happening, but very early in thepiece, in fact, just after
Peter had left, my sister phonedme at work and said there's a
letter here from Peter.
I'm going to bring it to you.
(06:38):
True story.
They drove from Salisbury intoBrisbane where I worked in the
health department in ElizabethStreet, and I ran down the steps
from work and they were parkedout the front, which you kind of
couldn't do now, and they saidopen it, open it.
And I opened it and it said Ilove you 21 times.
(06:58):
And they went, what I don'tknow what they thought it was
going to say, but I don't knowif you've heard that story, but
true story.
But okay.
So what was the question that Ididn't answer?
You asked me a question and Iwent off on a track there, but I
thought I had to tell you thatbecause it's really like a
(07:18):
profound moment.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I just love it.
I could sit and listen to youguys and your stories for days
on end and I think you had suchan extraordinary start to your
relationship.
And, of course, then what was awhirlwind?
Engagement and getting marriedall in the space of a week, and
then, of course, peter, youhaving to go back to Vietnam and
all of those things that youjust I know.
(07:42):
I certainly can't imaginemyself in that scenario, and you
guys did it at such a young age.
It makes sense that you've goneon to have an extraordinary
life together, and there's somany stories here that we could
spend hours on this podcasttalking about, but some I think
that we do really need tohighlight, of course, you
(08:05):
creating this incredibly largefamily in a very short amount of
time.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yes, so I wanted to have lots of children, because I
was born much later in thefamily and felt like an only
child.
I had two older sisters, andwhen I met Peter, he was the
eldest of eight children and hewanted to have a big family.
And I was like, wow, this isamazing, because even in our day
, having seven children, or lotsof children, was not really
(08:34):
something that everyone wasdoing, and so we could not wait
to start our family.
And so Kathy, our eldest, wasborn about 18 months after we
were married, and thensubsequently there were six more
.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
In how many years.
So people can really grasp this, because there was no twins or
triplets or anything.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
No, no, there weren't .
The sixth child was born theday after the eldest turned
seven, and then there's a twoand a half year gap until the
youngest, donna.
So we have a girl first and agirl last and five boys in the
middle.
The girls say they're thebookends and there was nine and
a half years between the girls,so very close.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And I do tell everyone.
Of course we would have hadmore, but Lynne doesn't like
kids.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Some people believe him when he says that they look
at me and so you came home foryour wedding back there in
Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Where was your honeymoon Like?
In seven days you engaged, youwed and honeymooned, and then
back to Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah Well, yeah well, believe it or not, we came down
to the Gold Coast for ourhoneymoon and it was a totally
different place to what it istoday, but we had a great time.
We had a lot of slide, becausein those days you didn't really
well, you didn't have a lot of,we didn't have a lot of pictures
, but we did take a lot ofslides and we thought we'd show
this all the slides that I hadfrom Vietnam, and Lynn had quite
(10:01):
a few slides to show as well,so we thought we'd show them on,
get a projector, which we did,and show them up on the roof of
the motel or hotel that we werestaying at, and I think it
lasted about 30 seconds when itblew the bulb, so we didn't get
to watch it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
No, you know it's funny.
You know, through my growing upyears, my friends and other
people always joke oh didn'tyour parents have a TV?
I'm like, well, yeah, actuallythey had a slide machine and it
lasted 30 seconds and then, allof a sudden, I had siblings.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Now what are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, so let's talk about some of the what others
could perceive as massive risksthat you guys have taken,
because that seems to be a themeof your life right, you haven't
lived an ordinary life together.
You've done things that otherpeople, I'm sure, shook their
head at and looked at you likeyou were absolutely crazy.
(10:54):
And we can certainly say fromour own experience too, when we
made the decision to travelAustralia full time, we had
those people shake their headsand tell us we were crazy as
well, and that really is theundertone of the life that you
have created for yourselves and,of course, for all of the
children and now thegrandchildren.
I mean, the family just hasgrown into this remarkable body
(11:18):
of human beings.
But you guys did take risks,and one of them was relocating
your young family from Melbourneto the Gold Coast and starting
afresh away from family.
How was that as a challenge?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yes, well, we moved from Melbourne.
We'd wanted to do that.
Peter loved the outdoors andthe you know, surfing and all
that sort of thing and of courseMelbourne really didn't give us
that opportunity very often,and so moving back to Queensland
was always on the agenda.
But we came back to Brisbanebecause my dad was really unwell
at the time and that kind ofpushed the decision, I think, at
(11:54):
that time.
But we were in Brisbane forabout two years and that was
really interesting and reallychallenging, because when I left
I was a young bride and I cameback pregnant with my sixth baby
and I didn't quite fit intowhat everybody knew me as, I
guess.
And so two years down the trackwe moved to the Gold Coast and
(12:15):
that was probably the best thingthat we did.
We just loved that we had thatopportunity to have our children
grow up on the beach.
It was a beautiful weather.
I don't know if it's a negativething to say, but a family
member said raising yourchildren on the Gold Coast sin
bounces off the pavement, and wewere like that'll be
(12:35):
interesting.
But you know, it was sowholesome.
They had a wholesome life, ahealthy life.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Look, and I always, even on this podcast, reflect
back to that upbringing and justwhat a gift to be growing up in
that environment.
Like you say, on the beach, youknow, come home when the
streetlights come on, kind ofthing.
It was a different world.
It was probably a little saferin many ways, but it wasn't
exactly easy.
I mean it's you know you justmove to the Gold Coast.
(13:04):
When you guys moved there, thestory is you had $100.
Is that right, dad?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's correct.
That's about all we had,believe it or not?
Okay, lynn went out.
We went and bought chickens outat Narang a whole I forget how
many.
We got quite a number, and we'dgo door to door selling fresh
chickens.
Yeah, not live right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I was just going to say that was one of the things
we did, along with, of course,we've always been involved in
some form of direct marketing orsales, and so they'll tell you
about that further on down thetrack, but that was the start of
, I guess, our direct salesbeginning and a really
entrepreneurial idea to think,okay, we'll buy a handful of
(13:47):
frozen chooks and then sell themfor a margin and then pay the
rent and then buy more chickens.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, we ate a lot of chicken as well, didn't
we?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I was just going to say it was definitely part of
the staple diet was chicken andI want to say four of our seven
children are vegetarian now.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You did, you over did it Including me we overcooked
them yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, that's right.
I love that, though, because italso I mean your values on
where you wanted to spend yourtime.
You both didn't go off intofull-time employment working for
other people.
I mean you did what you couldso that you had that family unit
together all the time, andagain, we love that.
It's.
The best part about ourdecision to travel Australia is
(14:27):
that we've got Jasper by ourside 24-7.
And look, some would argue thatthere are moments when you just
do need to have some adult timeand all of that, but in the
main, you know, choosing that initself is a big decision to
choose.
We're going to make our familythe priority and we'll figure
out the income, and you know howwe thrive after that, oh,
(14:50):
absolutely, it was a beautifultime.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's a family.
We'd say we're going to thebeach or whatever, and one of
the you know, as they got older,oh, we don't want to go.
And Peter would say one goes,we all go.
And that was basically what wedid.
But talking about taking risks,share your favourite saying,
peter Life is either.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh, it's either a daring adventure or nothing at
all.
That was not mine, that wasHelen Keller, and she was both
blind and deaf.
So you know that's incredible,isn't it?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And so I was not anywhere near as adventurous,
but I went along for the rideand it was wonderful.
My life would have been boring,I guess.
Compared to what it has been,I've had the most amazing
experiences.
I'm really thankful.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So where did you get your inspiration from?
Because obviously a lot ofpeople out there, you know maybe
want to live that kind oflifestyle, want to be able to
make that change, but don't knowwhere to find that inspiration
or get that education from.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, and the risk is so great Even for us, katie, to
be really planned in the risk.
We didn't just jump in and wehad a two-year plan.
But for you guys it was justfor a lot of people just seemed
like how do you be inspired totake that risk?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Were there books that you read.
Were there authors that youloved?
How did you get?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
these tools?
Okay, yes, books and personaldevelopment tapes at the time.
Okay, yes, books and personaldevelopment tapes.
At the time we listened, weread, we were inspired by the
first multi-level business thatwe were in and we watched a
promotional video or at least amovie which was on a big reel to
reel and we had to hireprojectors and we were in
(16:32):
recruiting people by inspiringthem to be part of this.
And we saw this trip around theUSA in a motorhome.
And I get goosebumps literallyas I talk about it now, because
we watched that movie every houror so for weekends at a time as
people came that answered an adin the newspaper, which is
(16:55):
different.
That was what you had to do andwe just watched it over and
over and we were so like, oh,wouldn't that be amazing to do
that?
And down the track, you know itmust have gone into our
subconscious because when we didtake our family to the USA and
the trip itself was inspired bywhat we'd seen on the movie, we
(17:17):
weren't going to buy a motorhome, we hired a vehicle and we
didn't know what we were goingto do maybe stay in like caravan
parks or something, but wedrove down this street to show
the kids Disneyland and therewere motorhomes in driveways for
sale and we actually bought onethat was the same motorhome as
in the movie.
(17:37):
Oh my goodness, and to this daywe still get goosebumps when we
talk about that.
And that was it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It was, as you say, the same motorhome.
Amazing, that would happen justdriving down the street, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And we bought it the day we arrived.
We put the deposit on.
We had to go and get money outthe bank, which would be another
whole story because right intoLA in this little vehicle that
nine of us were in so manystories within the story.
But we bought it the day wearrived and we sold it the day
before we left.
We'd put a sign in the window.
We did have a plan B.
We had the people.
(18:11):
We bought it off.
We're going to keep it and sellit for us if we didn't sell it.
We sold it the day before weleft to come home to Australia
six months later.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It is amazing and it is, as you said, lynne, one tiny
, incredible component to thisbigger story.
Let's just rewind a little bitand talk about okay, so we had
the inspiration to go and traveloverseas at some point.
How did you do it?
Because that's what people willbe asking and that's what we
got asked all the time how didyou get from that dream to then
(18:42):
physically getting sevenchildren you crazy people onto a
plane and over to the otherside of the world for six months
?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Well, first of all, we had moved on from selling the
chickens to a multi-levelcompany that had a system
whereby you could, if you workedhard enough, recruited enough
people, sold enough product,helped enough others, you could
get a residual income.
And in fact, we're talkingabout books before.
One of the books we read wasfrom Zig Ziglar, which was See
(19:13):
you at the Top.
One of his famous sayings areif you can help enough other
people get what they want,you'll have all you want Love it
.
And so that certainly inspiredus and was one of the
contributing factors to usjoining and being involved in
multi-level.
And then, when it came to thetime when kids all said, you
(19:33):
know, we'd love to go to Americaand we, you know, we want to go
to Disneyland, kids all said,you know, we'd love to go to
America and we want to go toDisneyland.
I said, well, great, we'd loveto go too, but what you'll have
to do is you'll have to pay yourown way and we'll go for six
months, and then our residualincome will keep us there.
And they said, okay, but whatcan we do as kids?
And I said, well, you couldsell drinks on the beach, you
(19:57):
could sell lollies after school.
And that's exactly what theydid.
And within probably 18 monthsor less, they had saved enough
money to pay for their ownticket there and back, and we
had increased our residualincome enough to be able to stay
there for six months and, ofcourse, buy the motorhome
(20:18):
outright, which was awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, look, it is amazing.
I even now look back on thattime and it did set in motion
not only that idea of, you know,being an entrepreneur and
working for yourself and youknow, having goals and writing
those down and then working outa plan on how to achieve it, but
, you know, for us as kids, ourfirst business as you mentioned
dad was called Kidco, and Kidcowas us actually taking little
(20:44):
eskies of poppers and sellingthem to the sunbathers on the
beach, as you say.
It was very seasonal, but wehad a good margin.
We were buying them for 19cents and selling them for 55
cents.
So there was a good markup, butyou know, some cute tan, blonde,
blue-eyed kids all coming up tosunbathers when they didn't
have to run up the hot sand tothe shop and it was.
(21:04):
You know, service to theirtowel was an absolute winner,
but seasonal.
And then, really, through yourdad at the time, he inspired us
then to look at aconfectionery-based business
which we called Sweet Success,sweet Success, sweet Success,
and that skyrocketed us, didn't?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
it, it did.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I mean that really set a completely different level
of success for us littleentrepreneurs at the time and,
as you say, that wasn't seasonalbecause you could do it every
day Rain hail or shine.
After school.
Instead of, you know, going offplaying down the beach, you
would wait for the weekend andsell your drinks on the beach
then, yeah, Drinks, but youwould sell your lollies after
(21:41):
school.
So, yeah, that was a greatlesson and a great well.
It's stead everyone, I think,in good stead ever since.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, you get your streetsmarts a little bit.
But I think more than that, itwas those life skills that
parents talk about.
I think more than that it wasthose life skills that parents
talk about.
You know, my kid hasn't got anyself-esteem or he lacks
confidence or she's strugglingwith being able to communicate
well All these little thingsthat you don't really get at
school.
We all of a sudden had anabundance of it through this
(22:10):
experience.
But then to get to the Statesand to be able to have achieved
that through our after schoolwork was really the gift in it
and for me it completelyembedded this idea that to be
able to travel to see othercountries and cultures and
people totally broadened ourhorizons.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, amazing.
But there was one other thingthat went hand in hand with the
sales, and that was dancing.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Oh yes, ballroom dancing.
That was amazing because we'dmet at ballroom dancing.
We, through a series of events,we all went along to dancing
when, I think, were you 15,.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Paul Right before we went to America, and I turned 15
the day we arrived.
Actually there in Hawaii, thatwas your 15th birthday, yeah, so
you were 14, cathy 15, anthony,15, 16.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And down to Donna, who was then six, seven, I think
.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
we started ballroom dancing, but it was like what
Kate said a minute ago, wewanted to do a family activity
that the whole family wasinvolved in.
So yes.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So we went along to ballroom dancing and we had some
pushback from a couple of ourboys, one of which was Paul.
I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
No, no, can you.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, don't want to go, anthony don't want to go.
And Peter said well, one goes,we all go, so you'll come and no
, you won't sit in the car,You'll come in.
Well, guess what was at theballroom studio?
Lots of girls, yeah, and itwasn't very long, and they were
on their feet and I have to saysome of the genes must have, you
(23:48):
know, from our experience, theycould all dance.
And the ballroom teacher wasold Harry Brooks, and he came
over to me before the end of thefirst lesson and said don't
promise your boys to anyone,talk to me first, because there
were mothers of daughters comingup and, you know, sitting down
(24:08):
having a chat, eyeing off whichone would best suit her daughter
as a ballroom partner.
True story.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, look, I was really more than anything
concerned about my peers youknow, my mates at school really
beating up on me doing thisreally girly activity.
And what happened very quickly,as you say, is that I realized
that you know, putting my headin a ruck in the rugby league
field or holding a young lady inmy arms and twirling around the
floor was it was no decision tomake.
(24:38):
It was obvious no-brainer right.
That certainly then set me onmy career path into the world of
entertainment.
Yeah, remarkable For you guystoo to see that come full circle
from where you met must havebeen Amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And so Cathy and Paul .
So the eldest daughter and Paulwere partnered, and I think at
that stage Anthony wasn't doingall the classes because he still
had his lolly round, hischocolate round, on a weekend or
something.
He wasn't going to all theclasses.
So there wasn't any sort ofdebate as to whether it would be
him or you partnering Kathy.
So it was you right.
And then the two youngest, jeffand Donna, they were partnered
(25:13):
Once again, you guys winningcouples.
And then the other boyspartnered with sisters.
And then there was anotherfamily involved with the other
one, and so we'd all go away forweekends to ballroom dancing
competitions, and so Fridayswe'd spend all day preparing,
like ironing pants and shirtsand making sure the sequins were
(25:33):
on all the dresses.
It was fantastic.
It was 18 months of absoluteconnected family fun and road
trips.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And road trips.
Yes, I think this is the otherpart of this whole story.
It didn't matter whether wewere doing our chocolate
business and having to go seewholesale suppliers in Melbourne
and towing a trailer down thereto fill up with tons of
chocolate, come back and sellaround really the secretaries
and office suites and corporatesector of the Gold Coast
(26:04):
primarily but the road trip wasvery much embedded in our
upbringing all the way through.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, and there was always good music and good
motivation.
Yeah, motivational tapes, whichsometimes it was pushback Do we
have to listen to this?
But oh, oh, my goodness, everyone of our seven have said the
(26:29):
things that we learned.
There have been what?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
have set us on our path in life.
So true, it's so awesome.
I really do want to touch onthis idea of you packing up your
family and heading to the otherside of the world when you did,
because there was no such thingas internet, there weren't
mobile phones, we didn't haveall of the conveniences.
No Starlink.
No Starlink.
That's right.
If you needed money, youphysically had to go into a bank
(26:53):
.
There's so many logisticalthings that make my brain hurt
thinking about taking sevenchildren overseas for that
amount of time, let alone theunknown of when you get there.
How did you make that work?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We just believed it would work.
I seriously don't rememberbeing overly worried about it.
I was happy Peter had decidedthat we would go and we did
everything together.
And hey, there's nine of usLike, yeah, I can go wrong, I
guess, but even like the flightsand everything, like at one
stage Peter went, I hope itwasn't a shonky travel agent
(27:31):
that we just spent all thatmoney with.
Remember having that feelingBecause they didn't answer the
phone or something there wassome.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, there's many, many scary times or times that
we thought, but I guess you justwork out a solution to it or
try a different way.
I mean probably the only realscary time we had in the States
was not with outside forces oranything, but it was to do with
money.
When they cut up your creditcards, you can hardly pay for
(27:59):
the next lot of fuel in yourtank.
You know what do you do?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So we need to, you know, go further on that story.
Our link with Australia, withour residual income was the
company we worked for.
One of the girls in the officewould walk across to the bank
and deposit the check right, andthen that would be on the
credit card, and so we wouldhave that pretty quickly really
(28:24):
for those days.
But somehow the money didn't goin, or there was some like
there was honestly some hiccupin why.
I went into the bank to try andget the money and they said, oh
no, this card is not legitimate, or there was some issue, and
stood there and cut it up infront of me and I was seriously
like my heart beats fastthinking about it.
(28:45):
Now it's like don't do that,don't do that.
She goes oh no, I have to dothat.
I think she got a reward forcutting up a credit card, so I
seriously do, anyway.
So then we found a phone boxand we checked the time,
obviously, and then we phoned mybank and I was friends with the
bank manager and I still am.
We're friends on Facebook and Isaid, oh my gosh, peter,
(29:08):
they've cut up my credit card.
And I said don't worry, haveyou got a post office a way for
me to get you another one, and Ihad it in less than like, it
was about five days, absolutelyincredible.
Once again, goosebump stuff,because how, like, how did that
happen?
But it was because we had arelationship with that man.
(29:29):
You know that he was and he wasinspired and he did a trip with
his boys, but to New Zealand, Ithink.
But at the time he was like youguys are like wow, are you
really doing this?
But there you go.
So at another time we'dtransferred $2,000 and it
disappeared.
It went to some corporate bankin New York and we were in
(29:50):
Denver at the time and we werelike, oh, that was madness and
we'd met so many stories.
But we'd met someone who lovedwhat we had and said I'll give
you the $2,000.
Didn't?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
know us, it's true.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Didn't know us, amazing, didn't know us really,
from a bar of soap no, yeah, andI'll lend it to you.
And then, of course, we got themoney and gave it back, but he
also gave you rides in his whatwas his car Mustangs.
Yeah, I thought you were cool.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Camaro and a Mustang.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And took you out for a pancake breakfast Dairy.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Queen and yeah, these are complete strangers.
It's a common story thathappened.
Three hours, six months oftravel.
There Was meeting remarkablepeople that thought that we were
borderline crazy, but CrocodileDundee was huge at the time as
well.
If you remember Paul Hogan,everyone you know loved the
Aussie accent.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
But incredibly open-armed and open-hearted
people are Americans in general.
We found.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's exactly right.
And still are.
They still are.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, and that seems to be a common thread now too,
paul, that we see as we travelAustralia, and certainly for you
guys as well, and that's a goodsegue for me to get into.
But the people are the bestpart about our full-time travel.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The caravanning community is an incredible
community and we just love it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Absolutely.
We totally agree with you there, Grandad.
And look, we've met somephenomenal people who've done
amazing things for us over ourfive years as well.
So let's talk about that,because you guys are on the road
now too, aren't you?
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
yes, we have times back on the Gold Coast where we
stay with family times.
We're on the road.
We're not quite as adventurousas Paul and Katie and Jasper.
We mainly stick to the eastcoast of Queensland and we love
far north Queensland.
We absolutely love Palm Cove.
We've had great times in EmuPark and Harvey Bay.
We love the Gold Coast becausethat's where most of the family
(31:43):
are.
But we catch up with these guys.
So where do we catch up?
Mainly?
Yeah, we've kind of parkedbeside each other sometimes and
that's been really fantastic, sowe love it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, look, we totally agree.
It suits you so well.
And gosh, it's been quite a fewyears now for you, with your
caravan and living on the road.
The only thing we haven'tsuccessfully managed to do, paul
, is to convince these guys totravel with us for an extended
period of time.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, well, I mean, you guys have got an epic size
van.
It's 27 foot, maybe on paper,and then Dad's added a couple of
other modifications on there.
It might be up to 30 by now,but we're trying to talk you
into a motorhome.
You know which is how we did itback there in that dusty old
Winnebago.
That model was called a ScoutIs that right.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I've been told, there you go, yeah, yeah that was
amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah Well, a motorhome is probably the next
upgrade for us.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It'll certainly make it easier to be on the road and
keep up with you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Then you might get really sick of us.
Then, oh look, we're like you.
We always look on the brightside of life, and so we're just
thinking you know grandparenttime, babysitting time and a
little bit of adult time thatwe've been missing out on.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Love it.
Now, there's more to this story, obviously, but something
remarkable when you reallyconsider, there's, you know,
nine very big personalitieswithin our family.
I always joke that I'm thenormal one when people ask about
my siblings.
But and obviously I'm not yourfavorite, I know that, guys but
I'm up there, at least I'm highup the pecking order but we did
(33:16):
achieve.
Well, if you were a girl youwould have been the favorite
yeah, mate, look, I know thatDad.
This is all good.
But we did achieve, as a family, a book that we co-authored all
nine of us called FamilyBusiness, the Business of being
Family, and I'll make surethere's a link in the show
description there.
But it's a way for peoplereally to probably get to know
more of your story and more ofour families, and I do think it
(33:40):
is extraordinary and notordinary, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yes, we have been blessed with an extraordinary
life is what I think, so verythankful yeah well, the book
would be a great way to check usall out again, and that was, of
course, only thanks to Paul andour wonderful editor Kate yes,
who put it.
Wonderful editor Kate yes whoput it all together really.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh look, I think I formatted and took some spelling
errors out.
Yeah a lot of spelling errors.
Yeah, you guys certainly didthe work and it is remarkable,
you know.
I think oftentimes you'll hearpeople say, oh, you should write
a book and everybody has a bookin it, but in them, I should
say, but the fact that as afamily, you guys have done that.
(34:23):
It's on paper.
We recently purchased a copyand gifted it to Jasper to start
to read, because he was soexcited to learn that there is a
Girin family book and you knowthat he is a part of it.
I think it must almost be timefor a sequel.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes, where are they now?
That's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
One of the opening parts, the foreword of that book
.
You have this really wonderfulanalogy.
I think that sums it upperfectly.
Can you share that with us?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yes, so we're all on the same bus but we're all
looking at different windows,and so that was brought home to
me when we wrote the book,because we'd have several
writing about some incident orevent or situation that we're in
and I was like I was there.
How did that appear to be thatway for that particular person?
(35:16):
And there may even be threedifferent takes on it.
And that is we're all lookingout different windows.
Good thing to remember inday-to-day life.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's all about perspective,isn't it?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
It is for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We all have a different one, and I think what
is so inspiring about you guysis that, no matter what you know
, you've certainly had adversity, you've had hard times, you've
come up against challenges thewhole way through your
relationship and, of course,with the kids and the grandkids
and I'm sure that just adds somuch more stress, as the family
has grown as well but you'vealways faced it with a positive
(35:51):
outlook, with an attitude ofgratitude.
But also you know how can wetake this situation and deal
with it so that we come out theother end.
You know better for it, andthat in itself is so inspiring.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Thank you guys.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, we've loved it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
We love telling the stories.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Truly an inspiration and such a gift to be able to
share this time with you guys,and as is the book, with us
being able to record somethinglike this, a podcast.
We see it really as our ownlittle time capsule to look back
on.
You know, it really is thegreatest legacy you could leave
others is your stories.
You know better than souvenirsthe best souvenirs are your
(36:33):
stories, aren't they?
Yes, absolutely Indeed.
All right, we're going to wrapit up there, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Mum and Dad Lynn and Peter.
Thank you Paul, Thank you Katie, and we're going to have a
quick word from this podcastsponsor and we'll be back in
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Thank you, Nike, Love thoseguys Again, as we always say,
another great Australian familystory.
Okay, now this week's takeawayoff the back of having Lynn and
Peter my mum and dad there onthe podcast is that time is the
ultimate luxury.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
And we talk about this in just about every podcast
episode.
It really is the one thing thatwe all have in common and it's
the one thing that we have inour control as to how we spend
it and who we spend it with.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, hearing
back on those stories andreliving that and remembering
those moments with my childhoodand at no point I mean my
parents had a hundred bucks, youknow, and the rent was that.
Then you know they're alreadytaking this risk.
They got all these mouths tofeed.
They go buy chickens, sell themdoor to door.
You know, I had no idea.
I was just living on a beachmate, so I had this incredibly
(38:30):
rich upbringing and it wasn'trich in the money tree sense, it
was rich in the time that myparents afforded us to be a
family.
And what a gift.
And we say it again, you onlyget 18 summers with your kids.
Choose what you're going to dowith your time now and make
those decisions.
Take that risk.
It's not a risk, it's the bestdecision you'll ever make.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Awesome, beautifully said, paulie.
Well, I have thoroughly enjoyedthis week's podcast and I'm
sure you have too, listening outthere all around the world.
Thank you again for joining us.
We're excited for next week'spodcast.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
We sure are All right for now.
We'll leave it there.
Dream big, look after yourselfand look after your family.
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Welcome to the Travel Australia podcast.
We are Paul, Katie and Jasperfrom the Feel Good family.
Join us as we explore thisgreat country, Australia, its
people, places and cultures.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yes, it's the Travel Australia podcast, where we
share the latest in RV industrynews road trip travel,
caravanning and camping, productreviews, guest interviews and
so much more.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This week we have an extra special episode with
special guests Lynne and PeterGuerin.
Their story is not only goingto inspire you, but it will
inspire your journey ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Absolutely, pauline.
Now look, this is one episodeI've been looking for for a very
long time, and, in fact, we didtease this a couple of weeks
ago on our podcast, when we weretalking about amazing people
with amazing stories, and Lynnand Peter are two of those very
inspirational people.
And not only are they yourbeautiful mum and dad, paul, of
(01:05):
course, they're myparents-in-law and they are, in
fact, sitting opposite me, so wehave to be really nice and give
them all the compliments in theworld, but they've made plenty
of cameos across our contentover the years, haven't they,
paulie?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
They sure have.
Of course, you know, aka PapaFeel Good and Granny Feel Good,
as you guys are getting knownaround the traps now on our
YouTube and TV show.
But, guys, 55 years, you'vejust celebrated your wedding
anniversary and the storystarted a little bit before that
.
Let's go back to the beginning.
Mum, we'll start with you.
Where did it all start?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Okay, it started in a ballroom studio in the heart of
Brisbane City.
I danced as a child, rightthrough, but I hadn't done
ballroom dancing, and so Idiscovered this amazing studio
that said walk up, dance down.
I talked to my parents actuallyinto taking me back after work,
and that's where it all started.
That's where I met.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Peter and Dad, you just happened to be in Brizzy.
You're a Melbourne lad, so whatwere you doing in Brizzy?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That's right.
Well, I was being conscriptedinto the army and was to go
overseas to Vietnam for the12-month duty over there, and
before I went I had to come uphere to Enoggera in Queensland
and then out to Cronunga,cronunga, cronungra.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Cronungra.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You know where it is?
It's right near Katila, anyway.
Another story Anyway.
So, yes, went out to Kanungrafor three weeks jungle training
before I had to go over toVietnam, and then in that time I
also went ballroom dancing andthat's where I met the true love
of my life.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Wow, okay, but I mean , was it love at first sight?
I mean there was obviously alot of men there and a lot of
women there.
How did you guys line up?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay, so that's the story.
Girls and boys.
It was mainly young people andwe were very young, and all the
girls on one side of the roomand all the boys on the other,
and so then you're partneredwith the person directly
opposite you, but there was thisvery handsome young man that
was opposite down the line alittle bit, but he kept moving
so that he lined up with me, andso we ended up dancing together
(03:14):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
But I also had hair in those days.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
How old were you?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
guys, when you met Okay, I wasn't quite 17.
And Peter was.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Must've been about 21,.
Yes, wow.
And then you really only had ashort time together, didn't you?
Before you were off overseas,peter, to Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That was a short time .
How long was it all together?
Three months.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Wow, so it was a fast romance and obviously you were
destined to be together.
Let's talk about that timewhere you were away, peter,
because I find this soincredible.
And again, paul, we touched onthis a couple of weeks ago on
the podcast, when and we'll getto this story this is the whole
(03:55):
reason why we wanted to talk toyou guys today about how, when
you took the family overseas andwe don't have all of that
technology that we enjoy today,all of those conveniences at our
fingertips Well, when you wentto Vietnam, peter, how did you
guys stay in touch?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, of course, in those days, writing letters was.
There was no email, but yousure could write letters, and we
also used the reel-to-reelvoice tapes, and we would make
those every, probably everysecond day.
And the one good thing the Armydid do while we were over there
was have a great mail system,and they would get those to us
(04:34):
pretty quick and, oh, of course,free.
So with what they chargenowadays, that was a pretty good
deal, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, but I mean, you're still like.
You know, jasper, the internetcircle of death.
You know the wheel of death.
It'll be buffering for threeseconds and you'll be like oh,
it's not working anymore.
What was the timeline yourecord this reel to reel?
Was it like an eight mil reel,Three inch?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
we'd call it then Right, was it three inch little
tapes?
They were little.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, just tapes.
Okay, but how long the?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
anticipation must have healed you, yeah, of
waiting to get them.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, of course you'd have to then wait for mail call
, which they would have a mailcall every day, but of course,
as I said, it wasn't too bad theservice that we got from the
mail system, and probably thelongest we might have waited was
probably a week, so three orfour days, not too bad, that's
remarkable.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Might have waited was probably a week.
So three or four days, not toobad, that's remarkable.
And so then, how long were youactually serving over in Vietnam
before you had that moment tobe able to come back to
Australia and SEMA?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You know, I had 12 months service over there, but
after six months you were ableto have a seven day R&R and you
had a choice to go to I think itmight have been Bangkok or you
could come home, or you couldjust stay in country and go to
the Grand Hotel.
So I decided to come home and,in writing letters back and
(05:56):
forward to Lynn and also herparents, we had decided to
become engaged.
Wow.
And then we decided, or Ithought, well, if I'm coming
home to be engaged, why don't weget married?
In the same week, yes, in theweek.
What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, and that's right.
And can I tell a little storyabout the letters writing?
Once we were in the flow of it,we had mail every day.
I think Peter possibly wouldhave had the same thing
happening, but very early in thepiece, in fact, just after
Peter had left, my sister phonedme at work and said there's a
letter here from Peter.
I'm going to bring it to you.
(06:38):
True story.
They drove from Salisbury intoBrisbane where I worked in the
health department in ElizabethStreet, and I ran down the steps
from work and they were parkedout the front, which you kind of
couldn't do now, and they saidopen it, open it.
And I opened it and it said Ilove you 21 times.
(06:58):
And they went, what I don'tknow what they thought it was
going to say, but I don't knowif you've heard that story, but
true story.
But okay.
So what was the question that Ididn't answer?
You asked me a question and Iwent off on a track there, but I
thought I had to tell you thatbecause it's really like a
(07:18):
profound moment.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I just love it.
I could sit and listen to youguys and your stories for days
on end and I think you had suchan extraordinary start to your
relationship.
And, of course, then what was awhirlwind?
Engagement and getting marriedall in the space of a week, and
then, of course, peter, youhaving to go back to Vietnam and
all of those things that youjust I know.
(07:42):
I certainly can't imaginemyself in that scenario, and you
guys did it at such a young age.
It makes sense that you've goneon to have an extraordinary
life together, and there's somany stories here that we could
spend hours on this podcasttalking about, but some I think
that we do really need tohighlight, of course, you
(08:05):
creating this incredibly largefamily in a very short amount of
time.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yes, so I wanted to have lots of children, because I
was born much later in thefamily and felt like an only
child.
I had two older sisters, andwhen I met Peter, he was the
eldest of eight children and hewanted to have a big family.
And I was like, wow, this isamazing, because even in our day
, having seven children, or lotsof children, was not really
(08:34):
something that everyone wasdoing, and so we could not wait
to start our family.
And so Kathy, our eldest, wasborn about 18 months after we
were married, and thensubsequently there were six more
.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
In how many years.
So people can really grasp this, because there was no twins or
triplets or anything.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
No, no, there weren't .
The sixth child was born theday after the eldest turned
seven, and then there's a twoand a half year gap until the
youngest, donna.
So we have a girl first and agirl last and five boys in the
middle.
The girls say they're thebookends and there was nine and
a half years between the girls,so very close.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And I do tell everyone.
Of course we would have hadmore, but Lynne doesn't like
kids.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Some people believe him when he says that they look
at me and so you came home foryour wedding back there in
Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Where was your honeymoon Like?
In seven days you engaged, youwed and honeymooned, and then
back to Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah Well, yeah well, believe it or not, we came down
to the Gold Coast for ourhoneymoon and it was a totally
different place to what it istoday, but we had a great time.
We had a lot of slide, becausein those days you didn't really
well, you didn't have a lot of,we didn't have a lot of pictures
, but we did take a lot ofslides and we thought we'd show
this all the slides that I hadfrom Vietnam, and Lynn had quite
(10:01):
a few slides to show as well,so we thought we'd show them on,
get a projector, which we did,and show them up on the roof of
the motel or hotel that we werestaying at, and I think it
lasted about 30 seconds when itblew the bulb, so we didn't get
to watch it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
No, you know it's funny.
You know, through my growing upyears, my friends and other
people always joke oh didn'tyour parents have a TV?
I'm like, well, yeah, actuallythey had a slide machine and it
lasted 30 seconds and then, allof a sudden, I had siblings.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Now what are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, so let's talk about some of the what others
could perceive as massive risksthat you guys have taken,
because that seems to be a themeof your life right, you haven't
lived an ordinary life together.
You've done things that otherpeople, I'm sure, shook their
head at and looked at you likeyou were absolutely crazy.
(10:54):
And we can certainly say fromour own experience too, when we
made the decision to travelAustralia full time, we had
those people shake their headsand tell us we were crazy as
well, and that really is theundertone of the life that you
have created for yourselves and,of course, for all of the
children and now thegrandchildren.
I mean, the family just hasgrown into this remarkable body
(11:18):
of human beings.
But you guys did take risks,and one of them was relocating
your young family from Melbourneto the Gold Coast and starting
afresh away from family.
How was that as a challenge?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yes, well, we moved from Melbourne.
We'd wanted to do that.
Peter loved the outdoors andthe you know, surfing and all
that sort of thing and of courseMelbourne really didn't give us
that opportunity very often,and so moving back to Queensland
was always on the agenda.
But we came back to Brisbanebecause my dad was really unwell
at the time and that kind ofpushed the decision, I think, at
(11:54):
that time.
But we were in Brisbane forabout two years and that was
really interesting and reallychallenging, because when I left
I was a young bride and I cameback pregnant with my sixth baby
and I didn't quite fit intowhat everybody knew me as, I
guess.
And so two years down the trackwe moved to the Gold Coast and
(12:15):
that was probably the best thingthat we did.
We just loved that we had thatopportunity to have our children
grow up on the beach.
It was a beautiful weather.
I don't know if it's a negativething to say, but a family
member said raising yourchildren on the Gold Coast sin
bounces off the pavement, and wewere like that'll be
(12:35):
interesting.
But you know, it was sowholesome.
They had a wholesome life, ahealthy life.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Look, and I always, even on this podcast, reflect
back to that upbringing and justwhat a gift to be growing up in
that environment.
Like you say, on the beach, youknow, come home when the
streetlights come on, kind ofthing.
It was a different world.
It was probably a little saferin many ways, but it wasn't
exactly easy.
I mean it's you know you justmove to the Gold Coast.
(13:04):
When you guys moved there, thestory is you had $100.
Is that right, dad?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's correct.
That's about all we had,believe it or not?
Okay, lynn went out.
We went and bought chickens outat Narang a whole I forget how
many.
We got quite a number, and we'dgo door to door selling fresh
chickens.
Yeah, not live right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I was just going to say that was one of the things
we did, along with, of course,we've always been involved in
some form of direct marketing orsales, and so they'll tell you
about that further on down thetrack, but that was the start of
, I guess, our direct salesbeginning and a really
entrepreneurial idea to think,okay, we'll buy a handful of
(13:47):
frozen chooks and then sell themfor a margin and then pay the
rent and then buy more chickens.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, we ate a lot of chicken as well, didn't
we?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I was just going to say it was definitely part of
the staple diet was chicken andI want to say four of our seven
children are vegetarian now.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You did, you over did it Including me we overcooked
them yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, that's right.
I love that, though, because italso I mean your values on
where you wanted to spend yourtime.
You both didn't go off intofull-time employment working for
other people.
I mean you did what you couldso that you had that family unit
together all the time, andagain, we love that.
It's.
The best part about ourdecision to travel Australia is
(14:27):
that we've got Jasper by ourside 24-7.
And look, some would argue thatthere are moments when you just
do need to have some adult timeand all of that, but in the
main, you know, choosing that initself is a big decision to
choose.
We're going to make our familythe priority and we'll figure
out the income, and you know howwe thrive after that, oh,
(14:50):
absolutely, it was a beautifultime.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's a family.
We'd say we're going to thebeach or whatever, and one of
the you know, as they got older,oh, we don't want to go.
And Peter would say one goes,we all go.
And that was basically what wedid.
But talking about taking risks,share your favourite saying,
peter Life is either.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh, it's either a daring adventure or nothing at
all.
That was not mine, that wasHelen Keller, and she was both
blind and deaf.
So you know that's incredible,isn't it?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And so I was not anywhere near as adventurous,
but I went along for the rideand it was wonderful.
My life would have been boring,I guess.
Compared to what it has been,I've had the most amazing
experiences.
I'm really thankful.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So where did you get your inspiration from?
Because obviously a lot ofpeople out there, you know maybe
want to live that kind oflifestyle, want to be able to
make that change, but don't knowwhere to find that inspiration
or get that education from.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, and the risk is so great Even for us, katie, to
be really planned in the risk.
We didn't just jump in and wehad a two-year plan.
But for you guys it was justfor a lot of people just seemed
like how do you be inspired totake that risk?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Were there books that you read.
Were there authors that youloved?
How did you get?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
these tools?
Okay, yes, books and personaldevelopment tapes at the time.
Okay, yes, books and personaldevelopment tapes.
At the time we listened, weread, we were inspired by the
first multi-level business thatwe were in and we watched a
promotional video or at least amovie which was on a big reel to
reel and we had to hireprojectors and we were in
(16:32):
recruiting people by inspiringthem to be part of this.
And we saw this trip around theUSA in a motorhome.
And I get goosebumps literallyas I talk about it now, because
we watched that movie every houror so for weekends at a time as
people came that answered an adin the newspaper, which is
(16:55):
different.
That was what you had to do andwe just watched it over and
over and we were so like, oh,wouldn't that be amazing to do
that?
And down the track, you know itmust have gone into our
subconscious because when we didtake our family to the USA and
the trip itself was inspired bywhat we'd seen on the movie, we
(17:17):
weren't going to buy a motorhome, we hired a vehicle and we
didn't know what we were goingto do maybe stay in like caravan
parks or something, but wedrove down this street to show
the kids Disneyland and therewere motorhomes in driveways for
sale and we actually bought onethat was the same motorhome as
in the movie.
(17:37):
Oh my goodness, and to this daywe still get goosebumps when we
talk about that.
And that was it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It was, as you say, the same motorhome.
Amazing, that would happen justdriving down the street, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And we bought it the day we arrived.
We put the deposit on.
We had to go and get money outthe bank, which would be another
whole story because right intoLA in this little vehicle that
nine of us were in so manystories within the story.
But we bought it the day wearrived and we sold it the day
before we left.
We'd put a sign in the window.
We did have a plan B.
We had the people.
(18:11):
We bought it off.
We're going to keep it and sellit for us if we didn't sell it.
We sold it the day before weleft to come home to Australia
six months later.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It is amazing and it is, as you said, lynne, one tiny
, incredible component to thisbigger story.
Let's just rewind a little bitand talk about okay, so we had
the inspiration to go and traveloverseas at some point.
How did you do it?
Because that's what people willbe asking and that's what we
got asked all the time how didyou get from that dream to then
(18:42):
physically getting sevenchildren you crazy people onto a
plane and over to the otherside of the world for six months
?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Well, first of all, we had moved on from selling the
chickens to a multi-levelcompany that had a system
whereby you could, if you workedhard enough, recruited enough
people, sold enough product,helped enough others, you could
get a residual income.
And in fact, we're talkingabout books before.
One of the books we read wasfrom Zig Ziglar, which was See
(19:13):
you at the Top.
One of his famous sayings areif you can help enough other
people get what they want,you'll have all you want Love it
.
And so that certainly inspiredus and was one of the
contributing factors to usjoining and being involved in
multi-level.
And then, when it came to thetime when kids all said, you
(19:33):
know, we'd love to go to Americaand we, you know, we want to go
to Disneyland, kids all said,you know, we'd love to go to
America and we want to go toDisneyland.
I said, well, great, we'd loveto go too, but what you'll have
to do is you'll have to pay yourown way and we'll go for six
months, and then our residualincome will keep us there.
And they said, okay, but whatcan we do as kids?
And I said, well, you couldsell drinks on the beach, you
(19:57):
could sell lollies after school.
And that's exactly what theydid.
And within probably 18 monthsor less, they had saved enough
money to pay for their ownticket there and back, and we
had increased our residualincome enough to be able to stay
there for six months and, ofcourse, buy the motorhome
(20:18):
outright, which was awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, look, it is amazing.
I even now look back on thattime and it did set in motion
not only that idea of, you know,being an entrepreneur and
working for yourself and youknow, having goals and writing
those down and then working outa plan on how to achieve it, but
, you know, for us as kids, ourfirst business as you mentioned
dad was called Kidco, and Kidcowas us actually taking little
(20:44):
eskies of poppers and sellingthem to the sunbathers on the
beach, as you say.
It was very seasonal, but wehad a good margin.
We were buying them for 19cents and selling them for 55
cents.
So there was a good markup, butyou know, some cute tan, blonde,
blue-eyed kids all coming up tosunbathers when they didn't
have to run up the hot sand tothe shop and it was.
(21:04):
You know, service to theirtowel was an absolute winner,
but seasonal.
And then, really, through yourdad at the time, he inspired us
then to look at aconfectionery-based business
which we called Sweet Success,sweet Success, sweet Success,
and that skyrocketed us, didn't?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
it, it did.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I mean that really set a completely different level
of success for us littleentrepreneurs at the time and,
as you say, that wasn't seasonalbecause you could do it every
day Rain hail or shine.
After school.
Instead of, you know, going offplaying down the beach, you
would wait for the weekend andsell your drinks on the beach
then, yeah, Drinks, but youwould sell your lollies after
(21:41):
school.
So, yeah, that was a greatlesson and a great well.
It's stead everyone, I think,in good stead ever since.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, you get your streetsmarts a little bit.
But I think more than that, itwas those life skills that
parents talk about.
I think more than that it wasthose life skills that parents
talk about.
You know, my kid hasn't got anyself-esteem or he lacks
confidence or she's strugglingwith being able to communicate
well All these little thingsthat you don't really get at
school.
We all of a sudden had anabundance of it through this
(22:10):
experience.
But then to get to the Statesand to be able to have achieved
that through our after schoolwork was really the gift in it
and for me it completelyembedded this idea that to be
able to travel to see othercountries and cultures and
people totally broadened ourhorizons.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, amazing.
But there was one other thingthat went hand in hand with the
sales, and that was dancing.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Oh yes, ballroom dancing.
That was amazing because we'dmet at ballroom dancing.
We, through a series of events,we all went along to dancing
when, I think, were you 15,.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Paul Right before we went to America, and I turned 15
the day we arrived.
Actually there in Hawaii, thatwas your 15th birthday, yeah, so
you were 14, cathy 15, anthony,15, 16.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And down to Donna, who was then six, seven, I think
.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
we started ballroom dancing, but it was like what
Kate said a minute ago, wewanted to do a family activity
that the whole family wasinvolved in.
So yes.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So we went along to ballroom dancing and we had some
pushback from a couple of ourboys, one of which was Paul.
I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
No, no, can you.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, don't want to go, anthony don't want to go.
And Peter said well, one goes,we all go, so you'll come and no
, you won't sit in the car,You'll come in.
Well, guess what was at theballroom studio?
Lots of girls, yeah, and itwasn't very long, and they were
on their feet and I have to saysome of the genes must have, you
(23:48):
know, from our experience, theycould all dance.
And the ballroom teacher wasold Harry Brooks, and he came
over to me before the end of thefirst lesson and said don't
promise your boys to anyone,talk to me first, because there
were mothers of daughters comingup and, you know, sitting down
(24:08):
having a chat, eyeing off whichone would best suit her daughter
as a ballroom partner.
True story.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, look, I was really more than anything
concerned about my peers youknow, my mates at school really
beating up on me doing thisreally girly activity.
And what happened very quickly,as you say, is that I realized
that you know, putting my headin a ruck in the rugby league
field or holding a young lady inmy arms and twirling around the
floor was it was no decision tomake.
(24:38):
It was obvious no-brainer right.
That certainly then set me onmy career path into the world of
entertainment.
Yeah, remarkable For you guystoo to see that come full circle
from where you met must havebeen Amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And so Cathy and Paul .
So the eldest daughter and Paulwere partnered, and I think at
that stage Anthony wasn't doingall the classes because he still
had his lolly round, hischocolate round, on a weekend or
something.
He wasn't going to all theclasses.
So there wasn't any sort ofdebate as to whether it would be
him or you partnering Kathy.
So it was you right.
And then the two youngest, jeffand Donna, they were partnered
(25:13):
Once again, you guys winningcouples.
And then the other boyspartnered with sisters.
And then there was anotherfamily involved with the other
one, and so we'd all go away forweekends to ballroom dancing
competitions, and so Fridayswe'd spend all day preparing,
like ironing pants and shirtsand making sure the sequins were
(25:33):
on all the dresses.
It was fantastic.
It was 18 months of absoluteconnected family fun and road
trips.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And road trips.
Yes, I think this is the otherpart of this whole story.
It didn't matter whether wewere doing our chocolate
business and having to go seewholesale suppliers in Melbourne
and towing a trailer down thereto fill up with tons of
chocolate, come back and sellaround really the secretaries
and office suites and corporatesector of the Gold Coast
(26:04):
primarily but the road trip wasvery much embedded in our
upbringing all the way through.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, and there was always good music and good
motivation.
Yeah, motivational tapes, whichsometimes it was pushback Do we
have to listen to this?
But oh, oh, my goodness, everyone of our seven have said the
(26:29):
things that we learned.
There have been what?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
have set us on our path in life.
So true, it's so awesome.
I really do want to touch onthis idea of you packing up your
family and heading to the otherside of the world when you did,
because there was no such thingas internet, there weren't
mobile phones, we didn't haveall of the conveniences.
No Starlink.
No Starlink.
That's right.
If you needed money, youphysically had to go into a bank
(26:53):
.
There's so many logisticalthings that make my brain hurt
thinking about taking sevenchildren overseas for that
amount of time, let alone theunknown of when you get there.
How did you make that work?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We just believed it would work.
I seriously don't rememberbeing overly worried about it.
I was happy Peter had decidedthat we would go and we did
everything together.
And hey, there's nine of usLike, yeah, I can go wrong, I
guess, but even like the flightsand everything, like at one
stage Peter went, I hope itwasn't a shonky travel agent
(27:31):
that we just spent all thatmoney with.
Remember having that feelingBecause they didn't answer the
phone or something there wassome.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, there's many, many scary times or times that
we thought, but I guess you justwork out a solution to it or
try a different way.
I mean probably the only realscary time we had in the States
was not with outside forces oranything, but it was to do with
money.
When they cut up your creditcards, you can hardly pay for
(27:59):
the next lot of fuel in yourtank.
You know what do you do?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So we need to, you know, go further on that story.
Our link with Australia, withour residual income was the
company we worked for.
One of the girls in the officewould walk across to the bank
and deposit the check right, andthen that would be on the
credit card, and so we wouldhave that pretty quickly really
(28:24):
for those days.
But somehow the money didn't goin, or there was some like
there was honestly some hiccupin why.
I went into the bank to try andget the money and they said, oh
no, this card is not legitimate, or there was some issue, and
stood there and cut it up infront of me and I was seriously
like my heart beats fastthinking about it.
(28:45):
Now it's like don't do that,don't do that.
She goes oh no, I have to dothat.
I think she got a reward forcutting up a credit card, so I
seriously do, anyway.
So then we found a phone boxand we checked the time,
obviously, and then we phoned mybank and I was friends with the
bank manager and I still am.
We're friends on Facebook and Isaid, oh my gosh, peter,
(29:08):
they've cut up my credit card.
And I said don't worry, haveyou got a post office a way for
me to get you another one, and Ihad it in less than like, it
was about five days, absolutelyincredible.
Once again, goosebump stuff,because how, like, how did that
happen?
But it was because we had arelationship with that man.
(29:29):
You know that he was and he wasinspired and he did a trip with
his boys, but to New Zealand, Ithink.
But at the time he was like youguys are like wow, are you
really doing this?
But there you go.
So at another time we'dtransferred $2,000 and it
disappeared.
It went to some corporate bankin New York and we were in
(29:50):
Denver at the time and we werelike, oh, that was madness and
we'd met so many stories.
But we'd met someone who lovedwhat we had and said I'll give
you the $2,000.
Didn't?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
know us, it's true.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Didn't know us, amazing, didn't know us really,
from a bar of soap no, yeah, andI'll lend it to you.
And then, of course, we got themoney and gave it back, but he
also gave you rides in his whatwas his car Mustangs.
Yeah, I thought you were cool.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Camaro and a Mustang.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And took you out for a pancake breakfast Dairy.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Queen and yeah, these are complete strangers.
It's a common story thathappened.
Three hours, six months oftravel.
There Was meeting remarkablepeople that thought that we were
borderline crazy, but CrocodileDundee was huge at the time as
well.
If you remember Paul Hogan,everyone you know loved the
Aussie accent.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
But incredibly open-armed and open-hearted
people are Americans in general.
We found.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's exactly right.
And still are.
They still are.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, and that seems to be a common thread now too,
paul, that we see as we travelAustralia, and certainly for you
guys as well, and that's a goodsegue for me to get into.
But the people are the bestpart about our full-time travel.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The caravanning community is an incredible
community and we just love it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Absolutely.
We totally agree with you there, Grandad.
And look, we've met somephenomenal people who've done
amazing things for us over ourfive years as well.
So let's talk about that,because you guys are on the road
now too, aren't you?
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
yes, we have times back on the Gold Coast where we
stay with family times.
We're on the road.
We're not quite as adventurousas Paul and Katie and Jasper.
We mainly stick to the eastcoast of Queensland and we love
far north Queensland.
We absolutely love Palm Cove.
We've had great times in EmuPark and Harvey Bay.
We love the Gold Coast becausethat's where most of the family
(31:43):
are.
But we catch up with these guys.
So where do we catch up?
Mainly?
Yeah, we've kind of parkedbeside each other sometimes and
that's been really fantastic, sowe love it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, look, we totally agree.
It suits you so well.
And gosh, it's been quite a fewyears now for you, with your
caravan and living on the road.
The only thing we haven'tsuccessfully managed to do, paul
, is to convince these guys totravel with us for an extended
period of time.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, well, I mean, you guys have got an epic size
van.
It's 27 foot, maybe on paper,and then Dad's added a couple of
other modifications on there.
It might be up to 30 by now,but we're trying to talk you
into a motorhome.
You know which is how we did itback there in that dusty old
Winnebago.
That model was called a ScoutIs that right.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I've been told, there you go, yeah, yeah that was
amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah Well, a motorhome is probably the next
upgrade for us.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It'll certainly make it easier to be on the road and
keep up with you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Then you might get really sick of us.
Then, oh look, we're like you.
We always look on the brightside of life, and so we're just
thinking you know grandparenttime, babysitting time and a
little bit of adult time thatwe've been missing out on.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Love it.
Now, there's more to this story, obviously, but something
remarkable when you reallyconsider, there's, you know,
nine very big personalitieswithin our family.
I always joke that I'm thenormal one when people ask about
my siblings.
But and obviously I'm not yourfavorite, I know that, guys but
I'm up there, at least I'm highup the pecking order but we did
(33:16):
achieve.
Well, if you were a girl youwould have been the favorite
yeah, mate, look, I know thatDad.
This is all good.
But we did achieve, as a family, a book that we co-authored all
nine of us called FamilyBusiness, the Business of being
Family, and I'll make surethere's a link in the show
description there.
But it's a way for peoplereally to probably get to know
more of your story and more ofour families, and I do think it
(33:40):
is extraordinary and notordinary, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yes, we have been blessed with an extraordinary
life is what I think, so verythankful yeah well, the book
would be a great way to check usall out again, and that was, of
course, only thanks to Paul andour wonderful editor Kate yes,
who put it.
Wonderful editor Kate yes whoput it all together really.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh look, I think I formatted and took some spelling
errors out.
Yeah a lot of spelling errors.
Yeah, you guys certainly didthe work and it is remarkable,
you know.
I think oftentimes you'll hearpeople say, oh, you should write
a book and everybody has a bookin it, but in them, I should
say, but the fact that as afamily, you guys have done that.
(34:23):
It's on paper.
We recently purchased a copyand gifted it to Jasper to start
to read, because he was soexcited to learn that there is a
Girin family book and you knowthat he is a part of it.
I think it must almost be timefor a sequel.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes, where are they now?
That's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
One of the opening parts, the foreword of that book
.
You have this really wonderfulanalogy.
I think that sums it upperfectly.
Can you share that with us?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yes, so we're all on the same bus but we're all
looking at different windows,and so that was brought home to
me when we wrote the book,because we'd have several
writing about some incident orevent or situation that we're in
and I was like I was there.
How did that appear to be thatway for that particular person?
(35:16):
And there may even be threedifferent takes on it.
And that is we're all lookingout different windows.
Good thing to remember inday-to-day life.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's all about perspective,isn't it?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
It is for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We all have a different one, and I think what
is so inspiring about you guysis that, no matter what you know
, you've certainly had adversity, you've had hard times, you've
come up against challenges thewhole way through your
relationship and, of course,with the kids and the grandkids
and I'm sure that just adds somuch more stress, as the family
has grown as well but you'vealways faced it with a positive
(35:51):
outlook, with an attitude ofgratitude.
But also you know how can wetake this situation and deal
with it so that we come out theother end.
You know better for it, andthat in itself is so inspiring.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Thank you guys.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, we've loved it.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
We love telling the stories.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Truly an inspiration and such a gift to be able to
share this time with you guys,and as is the book, with us
being able to record somethinglike this, a podcast.
We see it really as our ownlittle time capsule to look back
on.
You know, it really is thegreatest legacy you could leave
others is your stories.
You know better than souvenirsthe best souvenirs are your
(36:33):
stories, aren't they?
Yes, absolutely Indeed.
All right, we're going to wrapit up there, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Mum and Dad Lynn and Peter.
Thank you Paul, Thank you Katie, and we're going to have a
quick word from this podcastsponsor and we'll be back in
just a moment.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
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of the world's first 100%recycled hammock, made from 37
plastic post-consumer waterbottles and weighing less to one
kilo.
Nakey products will not onlymake you feel good see what I
did there but they make theenvironment feel good too.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Love it, Nakey.
Relax wherever you go.
Seriously, what are you waitingfor?
We love the Nakey products somuch.
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(37:31):
provided for our awesome feelgood family audience.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
So good.
Thank you, Nike, Love thoseguys Again, as we always say,
another great Australian familystory.
Okay, now this week's takeawayoff the back of having Lynn and
Peter my mum and dad there onthe podcast is that time is the
ultimate luxury.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
And we talk about this in just about every podcast
episode.
It really is the one thing thatwe all have in common and it's
the one thing that we have inour control as to how we spend
it and who we spend it with.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, hearing
back on those stories andreliving that and remembering
those moments with my childhoodand at no point I mean my
parents had a hundred bucks, youknow, and the rent was that.
Then you know they're alreadytaking this risk.
They got all these mouths tofeed.
They go buy chickens, sell themdoor to door.
You know, I had no idea.
I was just living on a beachmate, so I had this incredibly
(38:30):
rich upbringing and it wasn'trich in the money tree sense, it
was rich in the time that myparents afforded us to be a
family.
And what a gift.
And we say it again, you onlyget 18 summers with your kids.
Choose what you're going to dowith your time now and make
those decisions.
Take that risk.
It's not a risk, it's the bestdecision you'll ever make.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Awesome, beautifully said, paulie.
Well, I have thoroughly enjoyedthis week's podcast and I'm
sure you have too, listening outthere all around the world.
Thank you again for joining us.
We're excited for next week'spodcast.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
We sure are All right for now.
We'll leave it there.
Dream big, look after yourselfand look after your family.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And happy trails.
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(39:41):
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