October 22, 2024 • 43 mins
"Have you ever felt like the traditional path—9-to-5 job, homeownership, and climbing the corporate ladder—just doesn’t feel like your dream? In this episode, we’re challenging the idea of the 'American Dream' and exploring how you can break free from societal expectations to create a life that truly fulfills you. We share our journey of redefining success, letting go of others’ opinions, and pursuing what really makes us happy. Whether you're craving more freedom, adventure, or simply want to live life on your own terms, this episode is for you!"
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Just when you think you have it all, McMansion, two
cars in the driveway, whitepicket fence, kids are in a
great school.
SPEAKER_02 (00:05):
You got a flat screen in every room.
You got the surround sound ofyour dreams.
You even have a bottle ofCristal in your smart fridge.
SPEAKER_00 (00:12):
But then there's a big black gaping hole inside and
you realize something's missing.
SPEAKER_02 (00:18):
What do you do?
That's what happened to us whenwe realized we need to rethink
this American dream.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
That was a hard one.
Welcome to podcast number eight.
We are so happy that you're hereand today is going to be a good
one Because I think just wherewe are in the world today, this
is happening a lot.
SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
Yeah, a lot of people are really taking a look
at their lives and rethinking,you know, what am I going after?
What am I trying to build?
And what is this thing calledthe American dream that we're
all, you know, striving
SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
for?
And then once we kind of getthere, or we think we have it
all, and then you realize thatthis is really not fulfilling.
This is not my dream.
That's exactly what happened tous about what 10 years ago.
It was a hard one, because wewere wondering, like, what is
missing?
Why are we not extremely happy?
Why are we not extremelyfulfilled?
(01:04):
And we realized that for us, theAmerican dream isn't having a
so-called successful business,the big house, rental
properties, everything that youthink you're supposed to have to
be considered successful.
We were happy, but we felt likethere was seriously something
missing.
And what was missing, Jimmy?
SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
I don't know.
I just felt like there wassomething wrong with us.
I mean, is everybody doing this?
Is it just us?
Are we having like a chemicalimbalance?
SPEAKER_00 (01:29):
Well, it's like that hand your will too like that
daily grind of the kids startedgoing to school and it just
became really difficult gettingthe kids up to go to school they
didn't want to go to school thenpicking the kids up from school
and now you have to do theirhomework and then you have to
get dinner ready and then rinseand repeat do the same thing the
next day five days a week weekafter week
SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
sounds like a lot of
SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
responsibility I realize I'm freaking miserable I
don't know the kids didn't seemlike they were happy I'm forcing
them to do this and do that andthen I know I wasn't happy as a
whole we we thought like isthere something wrong with us
like why are we not i don't knowit's like we have what we think
all the things that we'resupposed to be happy in life and
(02:09):
then we as we started to likesort of peel back the onion to
see like what's going on with usreally like let's get to the
root of this because we shouldbe good and we realized that
there was the the hamster wheeland all of that was sucking the
life out of us and the fun outof us and we wanted to tap back
into what truly made me firstoff me and a couple before we
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even had kids.
And what we really loved wastravel, adventure, experiences,
not just sitting in the houseand just doing the grind.
And so now that we have kids, wehad to really look at our life
like maybe the so-calledAmerican dream is not for
everybody.
I think that's really basicallywhat happened.
We were like, you know what?
We have a successful business.
(02:51):
We have all the things.
And this is not the answer.
The answer was we want toexperience life and live life to
the fullest.
But that's a challenge when thekids are in school and you have
all your mortgage and the billsand all this stuff that it
becomes challenging to sort ofjuggle both of those lives.
And we had to come to asolution.
What happened, Jimmy?
SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
All right.
Before we dive deep into this, Igot a quote here I want to start
off with.
It's something that I alwaysthink about.
I think it was a documentary onYouTube or Netflix or something.
And it was about people thatweren't living their dreams and
looking for something else.
And this lady said, I worked mywhole life to climb the
corporate ladder.
And when I got to the top, Irealized it was leaned against
the wrong tree.
and it was like oh man thatstill gives me goosebumps just
(03:32):
saying that because like damnwe've all been there right like
we've all worked jobs justtrying to get to the top I
worked at Nobu started as a busboy spent 10 years working there
worked my way all the way up torunning the restaurant and could
have traveled the world openingup other Nobu's and I was like
this just ain't for me man I amjust not happy here I was not
having a good time so let'sreally break down like what the
American dream is for everybodyis it home ownership is it
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fitting into the systemperfectly is it being maxed out
on credit cards and And how muchmoney you make every month is
exactly the amount that goes outthe door.
And there's really no time forsavings and going on vacations
and having experiences with yourkids.
Because at the end of the day, Ifeel like a lot of people are in
that place.
I feel like a lot of people thatare living the traditional
American lifestyle are in thatplace where people make a lot of
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money.
I mean, I've heard stats beforewhere they said 60% of people
are living paycheck to paycheck.
And I think they said like 80%of people over$250,000 a year
are barely making it.
So it's crazy.
That's crazy, yeah.
You think two car payments,rent, all the stuff that goes
along with it, the price of foodgoing up, and then all the
activities that the kids are in.
Everything is meant just to suckyou dry is really
SPEAKER_00 (04:39):
what I feel like.
It's to keep you in the samespot.
SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
You go on your predictable vacation of the year
that's highly expensive and wayoverrated.
One
SPEAKER_00 (04:46):
week out of the year.
One
SPEAKER_02 (04:47):
week out of the year and you end up being miserable.
We've gone to Southeast Asia andspent less money than we would
spend on a typical Americanvacation here in the States.
So I think what really was atransitional point for us is we
have to define our owndefinition of success.
We have to come up to our ownconclusion on what success is
for us.
And for us, it was experiences,traveling the world and just
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being invigorated more oftenthan not.
And so we made a consciousdecision to test it out, test
the waters out and go toThailand one year for Christmas
instead of buying a whole bunchof Christmas gifts and kind of
forego the consumerism.
And it was by far the mostamazing thing that we've done in
a long time.
And I can't wait
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
to do it again.
Yeah, I think another bigeye-opener was, you know,
YouTube.
So while we were in our lifemeltdown at the time, it was
what it really felt like, wewere wondering, like, okay,
where do we go from here?
Because no one's talking aboutthis.
We felt like we were the onlyones feeling this.
We sort of like, you know, wetook a step back and we're like,
(05:48):
all right, we have to figurethis out.
So at the time, watchingYouTube, of course, and living
or actually getting exposed toother ways of living life and
Gone with the Winds, which was acouple that we were watching and
they were full time living in anRV and just traveling here and
traveling there.
Something about watching thatgave us like this aha moment of
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like, wow, they are just there.
They have their home with themand they're just traveling all
over doing all of these reallyfun experiences and doing all
these cool things.
And we're like, wow, like it wasmore so Jimmy that was like,
hey, we should do that.
And my mind at the time was sooverwhelmed and worked that I
go, how the heck would would afamily move into an RV and do
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this?
So, you know, it didn't take mevery long to realize that might
be a solution.
Now, obviously, there's so manythings going on in your mind
because you're like, we builtthis film business.
It's doing amazing.
You know, the kids are in thegood school.
Like, everybody wants to live inthat neighborhood where there's
a good school for the kids to goto.
And now, honestly, we're livingin Nevada and Las Vegas, and
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they are not known for theirgood schools.
SPEAKER_02 (06:57):
They're ranked 47th in the country.
SPEAKER_00 (06:59):
They are not known.
But our kids were in a reallygood school.
So there was all these thingslike, what if, what if, what if?
Or at least that was my take onit.
What if this happens?
And what if we take them out?
And da-da-da, and all that.
SPEAKER_02 (07:13):
Can I pause you there for a second?
I just want to rewind.
I want to get back into thismoment for a minute.
Because people might be goingthrough this right now.
We do all these what ifs, whatifs, what ifs.
What if it works out?
What if it's the most amazingthing that ever happens in our
life?
What if it changes
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
our trajectory?
We don't think those what ifs.
We think, what if I screw up?
And what if we don't like it?
and what if we ruin our lives
SPEAKER_02 (07:32):
I think I'm the king of goosebumps here I'm just
gonna every episode I'm gonnaget goosebumps every episode
he's had goosebumps yeah butit's just like it's crazy though
correct because all we do isrewind us back to that time and
we are sitting there going howare we ever gonna make this work
like I don't know if we can makethis work and now that we're so
far down the road I look backand I go what the hell are you
talking about that's the dumbestthing you could ever say like
(07:54):
why is this easier than thatlife I don't fucking understand
SPEAKER_00 (07:58):
it it's crazy I literally just heard Mel Robbins
say something to this effect itwas we're so programmed to think
what if it doesn't work out whyshould I even try anyways what
if I just waste time when Ishould have done this and she
goes what if it does work outand what if it is amazing and
what if your life changes forthe most amazing like in the
(08:19):
most amazing way like what ifthat and I said you know what
that's really interestingbecause I never do that I never
do a what if in a positive wayand I said to myself that I am
going to from now on say what ifthis is the most amazing
decision I have ever madeinstead of what if we screw up
and so if you can relate to thatplease let us know because I
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know we cannot be alone in this
SPEAKER_02 (08:42):
but it's just crazy to just to go back transport
yourself back 10 years whenwe're sitting in that house
going there's an RV in thedriveway and how are we gonna
it's so stupid so if anybody'ssitting there wondering how are
we gonna make this happen liketake it from us don't question
it just freaking
SPEAKER_00 (08:57):
go for it and you know what of the big concerns
that I had was like, what aboutall this stuff in the cabinets
and the closets and this?
And I know that can't fit an RV.
You know, the solution was sellit, throw it away.
And that was the most freeingthing we have ever done.
I'm not a hoarder by any means,but you do accumulate stuff like
year after year, every year thatyou're in a house.
(09:19):
I would love to know thepercentage of how much you
accumulate into the home thatyou don't even realize.
It's got to be massive.
SPEAKER_02 (09:26):
All right.
I didn't mean to interrupt youthere, but it was almost like a
moment where I was frustratedwith myself that we were so
juvenile and silly back then togo, what if?
I
SPEAKER_00 (09:36):
think it was more me than you.
You were ready to go.
I was a little bit of an anchor,which normally I am not an
anchor, but I
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
was.
But looking back at it now andthe amazing things that we've
done and accomplished and thepeople we've met and the
community that we built, I'mlike, what?
It is crazy.
It's almost frustrating to methat
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
we even had that mindset.
It is very frustrating, yeah.
So
SPEAKER_02 (09:55):
I want to ask the listeners out here, what is your
idea of success?
What is your idea of like theperfect American dream or your
ideal of, you know, you guysmade it, you're there, you're
doing it because, you know,we've met people from all
spectrums, from people that, youknow, don't have any money.
I mean, in life, we're chasingmoney some of the time, most of
the time, a lot of times becausemoney makes the world go around.
But people that don't havemoney, people have more money
(10:17):
than you can ever imagine.
And there's layers ofdissatisfaction in all of that.
And it's not like once you getto a point where you're at nine
figures, which some people weknow, they still, you know, It's
got the same problems now, whichis crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:31):
So I think this is interesting, right?
We were in our 30s, right?
When when all this was goingdown, we had like we checked all
the boxes of what you think likesuccess would look like.
So all the boxes were checkedand it didn't equal happiness.
It didn't equal fulfillment.
That's where we had to now peelback and say, OK, what will
fulfill us?
What makes us happy as a family,as individuals?
(10:54):
And that's when we sort ofrealized, like, wait a second,
we want to experience as much aspossible.
We want our kids to experienceas much as possible.
And that equaled fulfillment andhappiness for us.
SPEAKER_02 (11:07):
Woo, man.
All right.
So we realized that we had toredefine our dream, right?
And it could be the Americandream, but it's our American
dream.
And so, you know, if you're inthis position, which a lot of us
are, you're worried about whatthe people around you are going
to think.
And what is my family going tothink?
And, you know, I'm going to takethe kids out of school and I'm
going to sell our house that wehave equity in.
And we're just going to say,screw it and go travel.
So you got to deal with a lot ofthat stuff.
(11:27):
We're so far down the road rightnow that it doesn't even matter
to us what anybody thinks.
We're just doing us.
And that's good enough for usbecause we have that confidence
now.
All right, Sandy.
So the viewers are watching oranybody listening.
What What could you do or whatcan they do to get this ball
rolling into this living outtheir own dream?
SPEAKER_00 (11:43):
Whatever it is.
Well, that's a huge pivotalmoment, right?
Because that's what we wentthrough.
I think it's you have to definewhat success means for your
life, for your family, if you'rea couple, whatever it is.
What does that look like?
Is it landing that job thatyou're going to stay in and
climb that ladder for 40 yearsand give you that stability and
make your parents happy?
(12:04):
Is that the vision of success?
Does that fulfill you?
will that fulfill you 30 yearsdown the line buying that house
and paying off the mortgage andthen you have all of this
stability and security right ifthat equals success for you then
that's amazing and that willfulfill you ultimately now if
it's not and you think if youwere to be in a job for 40 years
you want to jump off a bridgebecause you're like that sucked
(12:28):
my life away that's not what Iwanted to do I don't want to be
in a position where I'm makingsomebody else's company
successful and I I devote mylife to that.
You know, for me, that wasdefinitely not the definition of
success.
So I would say you got to take acold, hard look at your life and
where you're at and what you gotgoing on and say, hold up.
(12:49):
If I look at my life doingexactly what I'm doing now, five
years, 10 years, 20 years fromnow, and I'm just progressing on
this journey, is that going tomake me happy?
On my deathbed, am I going to belike, man, that was the best
life I could have lived?
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
I dropped.
I left it all out there on thefield, man.
I ain't got nothing left in theworld.
the tank i'm all wrinkly frombeing out in the sun and i
freaking did it man
SPEAKER_00 (13:10):
so that's where i think you know and you hear we
listen to a lot of likemotivational videos on youtube
and they always say on yourdeathbed are you going to be
surrounded by the people and thelives that were fulfilled or by
all the the are you going to behaunted by the haunted by like
the dreams that were neverachieved or even like tried or
(13:31):
whatever are they going to behaunting you around your
deathbed for me i don't want tolive with regret i don't want to
live with those things of like,man, I really wish we lived on a
sailboat or I really wish wewould have traveled the country
in the RV with the kids andshowed them all these cool
experiences.
But I stayed in this job and,you know, I never did any of
that.
I think that's taking a clearlook at your life and say, if
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I'm continuing to doing what I'mdoing now, 20 years from now, is
that going to be fulfilling?
Because that was an honest lookthat we had to take at our own
lives.
You know, we built this filmbusiness from nothing, not
knowing anything.
And we're like, all right, wewere living in Las Vegas.
All Like our business was justskyrocketing.
It was from the get go.
We were like, damn, we gotreally lucky here.
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You know, we're trying somethingbrand new and it's working.
And, you know, we had noexperience in this realm.
It should have been good.
Like, but that's where we had tolook at it and say, if we
continue on like this and 10years down the line, we're still
doing this.
I am not going to be happy.
SPEAKER_02 (14:28):
Yeah, we are in the wedding business.
And, you know, you see some ofthe people that never get out
and then they're like 50, 60,some one couple
SPEAKER_00 (14:35):
was 70 years old.
They're on re and they're nothappy.
Still
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
filming, you know?
And I'm like, holy crap.
These girls are like 70 yearsold, still out here doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:43):
So what did we do?
We like bucked everything and wesaid, you know what?
We're buying an RV and we'regoing to move it move into it.
We're going to sell everything,get rid of it all.
And once we did that, I swearit's like the seas parted, the
sky opened up, and we felt free.
SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
Yeah.
Well, I felt like the universewas like, oh, finally, you're on
your way.
SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
Come this way.
You're paying attention toyourself and not society,
SPEAKER_02 (15:10):
right?
Come this way, young sapling,and let me open all the doors of
opportunity for you.
Yeah, we were young Jedi tryingto learn
SPEAKER_01 (15:18):
the way, right?
So
SPEAKER_02 (15:19):
now we're Jedi masters, so We were young pups
at the time.
And the force says, come thisway.
And everything works out.
And it always works out.
It works out better if you couldhave told us this is where we'd
be at today.
I would never believe you.
I would say it's not possible.
Not going to happen.
Not us.
This is not our journey.
And here we are today going,holy crap.
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Now,
SPEAKER_00 (15:41):
did we have people that were not our cheerleaders
thinking that we were crazy andpulling our kids out of school
and doing all that?
Absolutely.
And but I think for us, whatfirst off, I couldn't care less.
Right.
Like I'm like, if you feel thatway, more power to you.
I don't care.
SPEAKER_02 (15:57):
I don't care what you do.
SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
I don't care.
Yeah.
I don't care how you live inyour life.
But let me tell you, when you dosomething different, people are
very vocal and opinionated andthey want you to know that.
And I say
SPEAKER_02 (16:08):
the biggest one is I don't agree with what you guys
are doing.
And I said, that's funny becauseI don't agree with what you're
doing.
I don't agree with staying atthe same place and being
miserable for 40 years and thensitting on the couch and and
dying.
I don't believe in that.
So I think what you're doing isstupid.
You think what I'm doing isstupid.
So, dabs.
SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
So, I mean, our parents weren't necessarily
those people.
They were like, my mom alwaysknew I was crazy.
So it didn't faze her eitherway.
If you are facing that sort ofjudgment or whatever from people
closest to you, the only thing Ican say is they have a chance to
live their life however theylike.
You're not putting all of yourideals on them.
(16:48):
You're like, hey, live yourlife.
That's awesome.
I'm going to live mine now.
Some people have veryoverbearing parents and I'm
like, cut that cord because it'stime to live life.
Like if we look at it, it allboils down to we only get one
chance at this life, right?
We only have one time here onearth.
Whether you believe in anythingelse, totally cool.
But right now in this body, weget one chance.
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I am not going to play small orlive by somebody else's ideals
or whatever, because screw that.
No one's paying my bills, right?
It's like I'm doing all of thison my own and I'm going to live
it the way I feel that we arehappy as a family.
We're fulfilled.
Our kids are doing amazingthings.
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And if you don't like it, I'msorry.
Then, you know, bye.
SPEAKER_02 (17:34):
Don't be along for the journey.
So this isn't all about movinginto an RV and just saying buck
the system and just, you know,living wild dreams down by the
river and fishing for food.
You know what I mean?
That's not what we're talkingabout.
This is just like in general,anything that has to do with a
dream that you have, a desire,angle that you want to take or a
place you want to go, go for it.
for it, man.
Start small and build yourselfup and just go.
Just try it out.
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And we have a famous quote froma famous friend that says, if it
doesn't work out.
SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
Oh, you can always go back to it.
If it doesn't work out.
Never try, never know.
Right.
And so whatever it is that youfeel maybe your calling is to be
or to do or we we are huge, hugeadvocates for living your own
life and living it to thefullest.
And so whatever if it's likechanging a career, trying
something new, I think youreally at the end of the day you
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don't want to be 60 70 80 yearsold and and be like damn like i
did it wrong
SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
what
SPEAKER_00 (18:27):
if like i climbed the ladder but it was the wrong
ladder so and that to me is like
SPEAKER_02 (18:32):
so if you guys don't have anybody out there as a
support system lean on usbecause
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
we will be your biggest cheerleaders
SPEAKER_02 (18:38):
we love when people go for it and they try it and it
works out well and it's liketold you
SPEAKER_00 (18:43):
told you man just gotta go for
SPEAKER_02 (18:45):
it
SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
you know so i have a tattoo on the inside of my arm
it says to thine own self betrue and I Always want to really
authentically live like thatbecause you can live this way,
that way.
You can make this one happy,that one happy.
You can go to school to be adoctor because that's what your
parents put on you.
And then ultimately you're like,I really just want to be like a
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dancer or I want to do somethingcompletely different.
And I feel like it's such adisservice.
I know parents want the best fortheir kids and maybe have like a
profession that's going to paywell and it's very stable.
But ultimately, if your heart'snot into it, it's always going
to be miserable, you know.
And you can make the best of it,but ultimately you only get one
life.
And so you have to be true toyourself.
SPEAKER_02 (19:27):
So I think at the end of the day, why chase your
dreams?
Why go for it?
Why buck the system andeverything you've ever known and
go against the grain?
And it's all for fulfillment.
At the end of the day, you haveto be fulfilled.
You have to feel like your soulis filled from the inside out
and you're giving it your alland you're doing the best that
you can.
And you're in charge of yourjourney, your experience, your
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essence, your time here onearth.
And so I think really beingfulfilled at at the end of this
is what it's all about.
And that's why we're sopassionate about it because we
know what can happen if you gofor it.
And some things that havehappened to us is like we are
tapped in.
You know those turtles that getin the stream?
What do they call that?
Oh, shoot.
The current.
The turtles that get in thecurrent and they're like,
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Cowabunga, dude.
We're just on the current toAustralia.
You know what I mean?
Like that's really how I feelonce you tap in.
You're just like, all right,we're on the ride.
And so many amazing things havehappened for us and to us and
about us just because we are ontrack track, just doing our
things, living our life, andbeing true to ourselves.
SPEAKER_00 (20:25):
I always think about this.
I'm like, if we never took theleap back then and really
uprooted and changed our entirelives, where we would be today
if we were still in the samehouse, our kids were still going
to school, we were still in thatsame neighborhood, where would
we be today?
How would our mental state betoday?
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
That's almost heartbreaking
SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
to think about it.
And I think we would beextremely bored in life.
I think we would definitely feelway less no sense of
fulfillment.
I can't even imagine because wewere, that was 10 years ago and
we were feeling that way.
But a lot of people are just,we'll just stay with the
familiar, right?
SPEAKER_02 (21:00):
I got a couple of quick stories for you.
So I was working at Nobu, greatjob, making great money, running
the place.
And when I left, everybody'slike, you are so dumb for
leaving.
How are you?
You've worked 10 years to get upto this point and now you're
just going to walk away.
Like, are you stupid?
And I'm like, I just can't do itanymore since it's not in me.
I'm doing a disservice to thisplace by being here because I
don't have the passion that Iused to have to lead the team.
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Right.
And so So in that, when I left,everybody was, you know, there's
people supporting you, but a lotof people are like, you're so
dumb for leaving.
SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
And then they make you like second guess yourself.
You're like, am I doingsomething stupid?
Like I worked myself all the wayup.
I could start opening Nobu's allaround the world.
And then, you know, you reallysecond guess yourself.
Like, am I, what if?
Like, we don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (21:40):
Even Sandy, when she quit her job, she had a great
job and great money.
And people were like, you're sodumb.
You're so dumb.
SPEAKER_00 (21:45):
Yeah, they certainly did.
SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
And so here's the flip is we go back to Nobu five
years ago.
after I quit and the same peopleare there I mean nothing against
that like do your thing rightbut the same people that are
there doing the same things and
SPEAKER_00 (21:58):
we're and then no what did they say though you
were so smart to leave becauseI'm stuck here
SPEAKER_02 (22:02):
oh and then Sandy was and then Sandy was working
at the Palms slinging drinksdoing cocktails and stuff like
SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
that a Las Vegas cocktail
SPEAKER_02 (22:11):
making great money right but we go back we go back
in there and it's 10 years laterand the same girls are in the
same sections doing the samething and it was like
SPEAKER_00 (22:19):
holy you know okay let's look at Having the same
job for 10 years or we havetraveled around the country, we
have traveled around the world,we lived over in Southeast Asia
for almost like a total of ayear, we've done so many cool
things that I go, it's such afork in the road, right?
Like the fork of staying in thejob and it's very predictable
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what you're doing every day ortaking that chance, taking the
leap into really the unknown andit turned out that we...
We've done absolutely amazing
SPEAKER_02 (22:50):
things.
Would you say because we were inVegas, we gambled?
We took a risk?
We
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
gambled?
We were not gamblers, but yes.
In our life, we did take a verybig gamble.
SPEAKER_02 (22:58):
I don't want this to come off as braggadocious or
anything.
This is supposed to be inspiringand inspirational.
We are in awe of what we'veaccomplished because we didn't
think that it wasaccomplishable.
We're still on the journey.
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
We still surprise ourselves.
SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
It's not done.
The journey is not done for us.
We feel like the journey is justgetting started because the next
iteration that we have of whatwe're working on right now is...
going to be a next level ofunlock for us that we didn't
think was possible and so yeahit's just steps it's it's time
it's just motion it's
SPEAKER_00 (23:27):
just so i think this was our story we want to hear
your story like are you in aposition where you're like you
know what i really don't likewhat i'm doing and i really
don't care for this job and inever really thought about it
until i said oh like picturemyself 10 years from now do i
want to be in the same job iwant you guys to look at your
life and your situation and sayis this this really fulfilling?
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Am I fulfilled in my life?
Am I feeling alive every daywhen I wake up?
Is this like, yeah, or is itlike Monday every day where I
just don't want to go to work?
SPEAKER_02 (23:58):
Sandy gets mad on the weekends because people
don't work on the weekends.
Not that you love work, but youwant things to happen,
SPEAKER_00 (24:07):
right?
I think because we're not in anine to five situation.
Our kids don't go to school.
So we aren't in that Mondaythrough Friday mindset.
And so for me, I'm I'm like,every day is an opportunity to
work and do this and that.
I don't have that like a strictmind of like today's work
Monday.
Oh, I got to go back to workbecause we work pretty much
every day.
SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
Even like getting up in the morning, if we sleep in
till, I don't know, seveno'clock, I'm like, damn it.
Like we missed like an hour anda half of like getting more
stuff done.
So that shows us that we'retapped into what our purpose is
and our calling is because wecan't wait to get back at it the
next day and see what else wecan uncover.
All right, Sandy, time for alittle disrupt, a little
interruption, a little reset onthe energy here.
And we're going to do a littlethis that speed fire round on
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some questions.
All right, let's go.
So people can get to know us alittle bit better.
SPEAKER_00 (24:55):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (24:56):
All right, Sandy, I'm going to start off with you.
Rapid fire questions.
What is your favorite placeyou've ever traveled to?
SPEAKER_00 (25:00):
Bora Bora.
SPEAKER_02 (25:01):
Okay.
How come?
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
Oh, the water.
I've never in my life seen suchgorgeous water.
I mean, the whole vibe, thatlittle island, everything is
just amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (25:11):
All right.
Next question.
What is one thing you can't livewithout?
Why on the road?
SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
My flat iron.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
Flat iron.
All right.
I'm digging that.
Is that because of your hair?
It's
SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
because of my hair.
All
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
right.
Cool.
All right.
What's your favorite meal tocook in the RV?
SPEAKER_00 (25:25):
Pizza.
Pizza or salad, yeah.
We're big, man.
SPEAKER_02 (25:28):
Tortellinis.
SPEAKER_00 (25:29):
Keep going.
SPEAKER_02 (25:31):
What is your best travel memory with the kids?
What's your best memory with thekids?
Do you have a moment?
Jumping off a cliff together,snorkeling
SPEAKER_00 (25:39):
on statues.
It would be probably someunderwater adventure with the
kids, like whale sharks or mantarays.
SPEAKER_02 (25:45):
I think that would probably be mine, too.
That was just so magical.
All right.
What is your favorite food?
your dream travel destination?
SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
Okay, so the Maldives I would love to go to,
but I think Bora Bora with thekids because I really want the
kids to experience that.
So we've been there, but I wantthe kids to.
And the Maldives might besecond.
SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
I don't know.
Bora Bora is much of a familydestination.
SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
What do you mean?
It's water.
I know it's got like thehoneymoon vibe,
SPEAKER_02 (26:07):
but
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
I don't care.
SPEAKER_02 (26:08):
All right.
What's the most challengingthing about RV life?
SPEAKER_00 (26:11):
Challenging.
Probably travel days becauseloading up all the bikes and
doing all that because there'sreally not many challenging
things I would say loading andunloading the garage probably.
It takes a while.
It takes like a
SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
day to do the whole thing in and out.
What's one thing you wish the RVhad that it doesn't?
Is there anything you wish forin here?
No, we kind of got a lot
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
of stuff in here.
Let's see.
A pool.
SPEAKER_02 (26:31):
All right.
A pool.
I like that one.
What's your favorite part ofbeing next to me in close
quarters?
SPEAKER_00 (26:37):
The favorite part?
SPEAKER_02 (26:38):
Yeah.
What's
SPEAKER_00 (26:38):
your favorite part of living together?
Because I don't like being awayfrom you.
So I like that we're always likenext to each other in the same
room, I guess.
SPEAKER_02 (26:45):
It's funny when we got to separate and go
SPEAKER_00 (26:46):
do things.
Unless we're arguing, then I'mlike, get away.
When
SPEAKER_02 (26:49):
we got to separate and go do things, I'm like,
hurry up and get back.
SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
Yeah.
I
SPEAKER_02 (26:53):
miss you.
All right, Sandy, now it's yourtime to ask me a couple speed
round questions.
SPEAKER_00 (26:58):
Oh, all righty.
Okay, if you could pick onlyone, class A or RV or fifth
wheel?
SPEAKER_02 (27:03):
I would have to say fifth wheel.
Just so much more room, so muchbetter of a living experience.
We only drive 10% of the time.
We live 90% of the time.
I would rather be more
SPEAKER_00 (27:12):
comfortable.
More space.
While we're living.
Yep, I hear you.
Favorite road trip snack?
SPEAKER_02 (27:17):
Ooh, favorite road, you know, Lately, Skyler got
some beef jerky, and you put itin your mouth, and I was like,
holy
SPEAKER_01 (27:22):
crap.
Really?
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
Yeah.
I was a vegetarian for 12 years.
SPEAKER_01 (27:25):
Really?
Beef
SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
jerky?
I put this jerky in my mouth,and it's like this sensory
overload explosion
SPEAKER_00 (27:31):
of
SPEAKER_02 (27:31):
umami in your mouth.
And I'm like, man, give me someumami.
Gosh.
SPEAKER_00 (27:38):
All right.
What's the best RV mod we'vedone so far?
SPEAKER_02 (27:42):
Well, you know, there's a lot of good ones.
The full-on suspension is great.
The solar is absolutely amazing.
But one One that I like that weuse every day is the LED lights
from Boogie Lights.
I love lighting this thing up atnight and make it look good.
SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
The lights.
SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
Yeah, the lights.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (27:57):
All right.
One item you bring on every roadtrip, no matter what.
SPEAKER_02 (28:01):
Ooh, that's a good one.
How about a cell phone?
SPEAKER_00 (28:05):
I think you have that
SPEAKER_02 (28:06):
regardless.
SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
What do we, I don't know.
That's kind
SPEAKER_02 (28:10):
of a, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (28:10):
We have everything with us.
SPEAKER_02 (28:12):
My RV.
SPEAKER_00 (28:13):
Yeah.
My whole house.
SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
Everything I own.
SPEAKER_00 (28:17):
That's a good one.
All right.
What's one travel location you'dgo back to in a heartbeat?
SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
Anything around water.
We love the Keys.
We go back to the Keys quite abit.
I don't know.
I would go back to the Keys in aheartbeat.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
What if it wasn't in the RV?
If it could be anywhere?
SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
Go back to a place?
I would have to say Bora Bora.
SPEAKER_00 (28:39):
That place
SPEAKER_02 (28:39):
is just insane.
I don't know.
It would remind me of a BoraBora trip
SPEAKER_00 (28:44):
to the future.
I would be happy about that.
Let's see.
What Favorite workout routine onthe road?
SPEAKER_02 (28:50):
Anything where lifting weights.
I just love working my chestbecause when I grew up, I had a
bird chest and I always got madefun of.
And so I always put a littleextra love into my chest trying
to get it to that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:00):
I feel the same way with legs, man.
SPEAKER_02 (29:02):
That Instagram status.
SPEAKER_00 (29:03):
What's been the toughest part of RV living?
SPEAKER_02 (29:06):
I don't know.
We've kind of gone over this ina lot of other videos, but some
of the toughest stuff iscreating community, finding your
people on the road.
And I don't know, travel day isamazing.
I love it because we're movingspots, but just the loading up,
just, I don't know.
It gets old after a while.
Tired of putting the bikes inand taking them out, putting
them in, taking them out,putting them in.
SPEAKER_00 (29:21):
Oh, especially if it's raining.
SPEAKER_02 (29:23):
You got any more?
Yep,
SPEAKER_00 (29:24):
I have.
What's the best part ofparenting on the road?
SPEAKER_02 (29:29):
The thing for me that I absolutely love is seeing
all these new experiencesthrough the kids' eyes and just
seeing their energy andexcitement.
And even lately, like we justdid a NASCAR event and to see
the, I don't know, theexcitement, the wonder, the
energy on the kids.
It just, it's really rewarding.
And it just like, it makes melike, damn, that's freaking
awesome.
I These kids are so lucky.
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I'd love to be able to createthat for them and just see it
through their eyes.
Because when we do it byourselves, it's just like, eh.
But when we do it with kids,that's pretty
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
cool.
All right, last one.
If you could change one thingabout RV life, what would it be?
SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
One thing about RV life?
I would get more people outhere.
I would let people see what thislife is all about and see how
you don't have to live a lifethat you're miserable at.
And even if it's just for aweekend, a week, whatever, just
come out here with your familyand just connect with other
people and realize that thisworld is pretty dang cool and
there's a lot of cool people outhere i like it i like it
SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
more people more people we need more people on
the road
SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
yes all right should we get back to the the videos of
how to live your dream and notthe superficial dream
SPEAKER_00 (30:27):
let's do it so is the regular american dream that
we've all known for many manyyears our parents our
grandparents is that the dreamfor you are you gonna maybe go
hey maybe maybe that isn't thedream for me the picket fence
and i really don't care aboutthe picket fence i don't care
about the house i really don'tcare about this house anyways is
it seeing and doing crazyexperiences, does that set your
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soul on fire?
I think for us, that's like setyour soul on fire.
That's exactly it.
SPEAKER_02 (30:55):
Sounds like a t-shirt.
SPEAKER_00 (30:56):
Does what sets your soul on fire?
If you have a dream of doingsomething and but where you're
at right now and the trajectoryof what you're doing, if that
doesn't align with that, well,then maybe it's like, oh, maybe
I should take a look at that andsay, what can I do that will
align with my actual dreams formy life?
Because it's not a one size fitsall, right?
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The American dream the way it isand the way we think about it is
it's a one size fits all.
I think the whole purpose ofthis podcast right now is we had
that aha moment 10 years agothat made us literally change
everything.
Now for you, maybe it's justhaving an aha moment of like,
man, I really want to thinkabout what my dreams are and
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what really sets my soul onfire.
And maybe just start looking atthat and say, are you in
alignment with where you areright now to get there?
Because I think, you know, likeI said, Tomorrow is not
guaranteed.
SPEAKER_01 (31:49):
Not at all.
SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
Not guaranteed.
And so if it's not guaranteed,then I better make sure I'm
doing everything I can today toalign with what I really want to
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
do.
So I got two points.
I want to just drive home beforewe wrap this up.
But the first point is like, youknow, Sandy just turned 50.
She just celebrated herbirthday.
Happy birthday to you.
Thank you.
I should do some sound effectsright now.
Oh,
SPEAKER_00 (32:07):
yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:08):
They're not on right now.
Sandy just turned 50.
I'm 48.
Like, I truly think because weare tapped into like what our
purpose is, that it keeps usyoung.
It keeps us
SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
young at heart.
Young at
SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
heart, always adventuring.
We don't have this icky stresson us that's wearing us down and
tearing away at the way we lookand present ourselves and feel.
I
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
think the stress is a huge thing.
And
SPEAKER_02 (32:28):
so it's absolutely amazing.
I'm like, holy crap.
I really feel like I'm 30.
I know you feel
SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
like you're 28.
I feel like I look better than Idid.
I see pictures that we havehanging on the wall and I was
like 34.
And I go, man, I feel like Ilook better now than I did then.
SPEAKER_02 (32:40):
So that's one of the things I think that when you're
tapped in and when you're reallyaligned with your purpose, that
you're timeless, right?
You don't age every day.
It's like the fountain of youth.
Yeah, tapping in the fountain
SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
of youth.
Actually, happiness probablyequals the fountain of youth in
a sense because you're notstressed out.
You're not, you know.
I mean, don't get it wrong.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
We have stress.
Like, don't
SPEAKER_00 (32:58):
get it wrong.
Well, no, but going to a jobthat you hate, that's stressful.
SPEAKER_02 (33:01):
I can't imagine asking somebody for a day off or
it just doesn't even make senseto me.
And
SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
it's just weird.
Well, I think going to a jobthat you literally hate, I think
that is such a disservice toyour beautiful life that you
were given.
SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
And another point that I wanted to drive home is
like when you start surroundyourself with like-minded
individuals that are actually, Idon't want to say entrepreneurs,
but people that are out livingtheir dreams and doing what they
want.
It's just so symbiotic.
Everything just aligns.
And that's what I love aboutthis RV space is everybody's
made a conscious decision to beout here.
So when we have meetups and weall get together, everybody's of
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the same mindset and of the sameenergy.
And so when we were talkingearlier about family, our RV
crew is our family becausethey're the ones who are out
here doing it with us andexperiencing it and growing and
learning and connecting and andall that stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (33:48):
Well, they all took a chance.
They all took a chance.
SPEAKER_02 (33:51):
I mean, we got some RV friends that walked away from
huge businesses or did this orretired earlier or sold their
house or got out of it, youknow?
So yeah, I mean, it runs a gamutall the way around.
So
SPEAKER_00 (34:01):
this podcast is to shake you up a little bit and
make you look at your own lifeand say, is this the best life I
could be living right now?
Because I know the last thinganybody wants to do is climb up
the ladder and realize it's thewrong ladder.
And then you look down and yougo, I wasted so many
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
years.
Too many years.
Might as well just stay in itbecause, you know, I got the
golden handcuffs.
SPEAKER_00 (34:23):
So being 50 years old right now, I feel like I've
had many different lifetimes.
And I feel like every sort ofpart of my life, I evolved into
a better version of myself.
And there's been many differentthings that I've had going on
that I know it's just anevolution of life, right?
And so where we're at right now,there's going to be another
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evolution of where we want to beand what we want to to do and
we're going to have to take morechances.
But we know now that beingauthentic to that and listening
to the nagging feeling inside isa sign of we have to look at
something.
So, Jimmy, what is somethingthat people can do if they
realize, hey, maybe I'm not sosatisfied in my life right now?
SPEAKER_02 (35:05):
I think one of the biggest things that helped us
was we actually, when I workedat Nobu, there was a guy who
came in, multi-millionaire, andI mentored under him for a
little bit.
And he said, you have to set adate for anything big that you
want to accomplish in
SPEAKER_00 (35:15):
your life.
Set a date.
SPEAKER_02 (35:16):
So he's like, you got to set a date.
You got to set a date.
And for me, it was the set adate for the time to leave Nobu.
And so I set a date and it wasfour months out because I wanted
to give the management time toreplace me.
And once I set that date, thingsstart happening so fast that we
barely made it a month.
And I was like, oh, my gosh,this is amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
I'm so sorry, but I have to go.
I'm so sorry.
I got
SPEAKER_02 (35:33):
to dip out a little bit earlier.
You guys can handle this.
You'll be good.
So I think the most importantthing is like visualize what you
want to do, write it down onpaper and set a date for, you
know, the for all this tohappen, whatever it is you want
to happen.
For us, it was I want going toquit Nobu after 10 years and
we're going to go all in on ourfilm production company.
And the business started pickingup so hot and heavy in that time
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period that I think myintentions were set.
And so everything was deliveredto us.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
Well, you know, they say where focus goes, energy
flows, and we fully believethat.
So once you stop focusing on thestuff that you're currently
doing that you don't like andyou put the focus into what you
do want to happen, I'm tellingyou, it's like the universe
conspires for you and makes ithappen.
All
SPEAKER_02 (36:17):
right.
So here's a little shamelessplug then.
We are working on a course rightnow to teach people how to be
full-time content creators andmaybe have a glimpse at living
this life right here.
So if you guys are interested,we're going to have an email
opt-in where you can drop youremail, you get access to a
webinar, and you can check itout and watch it and see if
you've learned anything, if youwant to be a content creator,
and if you want to go down thisjourney, this road with us, and
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let us collapse that timeline.
Because as I mentored underpeople before, it's great to
mentor under people who'vealready done it before you
because what took us six yearsto get here, we can help teach
you in a very, very short amountof time.
SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
Woo! Man.
All right.
So yeah, I would say if you do,if you are at a point in your
life, if say maybe you'relistening to our words today and
you're saying, yeah, no, Iactually never really thought
about that, but no, I don't, Idon't want to live this, this
life that I'm living right now.
I highly recommend figuring outwhat do you want to do?
Like what is, what are thedreams and the goals that maybe
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you didn't think about becauseyou're just too busy busy doing
the nine to five or doingwhatever it is that you're doing
and say hold up if I didn't havethis job what would I love to do
right now and start putting thatenergy into that like how can
you make it happen how can youmanifest that to happen once you
start focusing on that I'm goingto tell you crazy things are
going to happen andopportunities may align and
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doors are going to open and thenyou're going to realize whoa
like the light is way brighterin this new direction and I can
leave this one behind whichisn't serving me I'm not serving
this them because i'm not reallyhappy there and uh and you might
have a brand new life ahead ofyou and so or maybe just
tweaking your life and uh addingin more fun we're
SPEAKER_02 (37:56):
extreme so we're like change your life right now
we're kind of extreme so
SPEAKER_00 (37:59):
so as you are setting up these new dreams and
goals and whatever it is it'sgoing to make you feel like life
is amazing there is obviouslygoing to be self-doubt and
challenges and all of that andit's absolutely natural but for
us you always just have to keepthat end goal in sight and
visualize what it's going to belike when you get there and when
all these things start happeningour friend Patrick from
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bumfuzzle I swear that dude hesaid one line and it changed my
life and my outlook oneverything which maybe will help
you I was like what if this andwhat if that and this was to
move into the RV and sort oflike change our whole life he
goes you know what just try itand if you don't like it your
old life will always be waitingthere for you and I was like oh
because I didn't like my oldlife and I go you know what I'm
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gonna definitely try thisbecause anything is better than
my old life because I I didn'tlike it.
I wasn't happy.
And so I throw that off to you.
And if you try it and if youdon't like it, guess what?
You can go back to that job or ajob, similar job or whatever,
and go back to that neighborhoodand, you know, just keep on
trucking.
But you never know unless youtry.
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And so whenever, of course, thatself-doubt is going to creep in
or people are going to be like,what are you doing?
I highly recommend maybe findinga new group of friends or
friends that are in the arena ofwhat you want.
want to do because the supportof friends is is really
important and we didn't realizethat until we built a community
around us that were likecheerleaders for you know our
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new adventures and whatnot andthen i was like oof so we are
very passionate about being thatfor others because we know how
crucial it is and sometimes wejust need somebody to go you
know what it's all right thatyou're feeling this keep going
because you're almost thereyou're closer and closer every
day and then all of a sudden thelight bulb happens and then it's
SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
like i'm here i'm in the arena i'm
SPEAKER_00 (39:47):
And then, you know, so we have to all be
cheerleaders for each other andbe accepting of people being
cheerleaders for us.
No matter what challenge, nomatter doubt, whatever.
Always know that your drive foryour dreams to come true is way
stronger and will trump all ofthat.
SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
So I just want to say what our mission statement
was when we started.
And maybe that'll help you guysbecause we didn't know how it
was going to happen.
But being en route, it justhappened.
So our mission statement wasalways to be self-sustaining on
the road and make money fromanywhere.
And...
That was kind of our thing,right?
So think about it again.
We're going to beself-sustaining anywhere on the
road so we don't have to have ahome base and we can make money
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from anywhere in the world.
SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
And because with our film business, we were getting
jobs all over literally theworld, but we didn't want to
necessarily continue doing that.
And at the time, we did not knowwhat other way we would make
money besides our film business.
But we just knew, like, keptthinking, okay, what other ways
can we make money and this andthat.
And that's when social mediasort of turned into our
(40:46):
full-time experience.
It
SPEAKER_02 (40:47):
took us four years of being on that journey of
we're going to make this work nomatter what.
We're going to beself-sustaining anywhere in the
world and make money fromanywhere.
So it took us four or five yearsto get going on that.
But that was always the dream.
That was always the desire.
And here we are.
And
SPEAKER_00 (41:01):
you're always like fine tuning and fine tuning and
figuring out and getting closerto the goal.
Right.
Just so you know, we are herefor you.
We would love to hear what yourdreams and goals are.
Put them in the comments becausewe want to sort of get that
energy we're going to focus onthat energy for you to make that
happen we get tons of emails dmswhere people like say just in
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the rv life they're like i ihate my job i want to just
travel with my kids or i'm i'mi'm single and i just want to
travel the world how do i dothis and you know the first step
is okay visualize what it isthat you want is it is it an rv
is it traveling around the worldis it backpacking whatever the
goal is you have to startthinking about it maybe putting
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it down on paper how can i makethis happen now and take the
steps to make that happen likeyou can't just make a vision
board and sit on the couch andbe like man i really want that i
want all that to come to lifeand but you're not doing
anything for it you know you'renot taking the steps
SPEAKER_02 (41:56):
and a lot of times the answer reveals itself in the
journey yes so that's a big parttoo like we don't know what is
ahead of us but if i'm goingthat direction then things will
reveal themselves and doors willopen and opportunities
SPEAKER_00 (42:07):
but you do need to take steps and you do need to
take action and when you doamazing things can happen
SPEAKER_02 (42:14):
all right guys that's our love fest for the day
our most Our motivation, ourinspiration to get you guys to
get out there and try
SPEAKER_00 (42:22):
something new.
Literally, literally.
Like this one's all about tryingsomething new.
SPEAKER_02 (42:27):
Our vision is so good and so grand when we
developed it and we didn't knowthat our whole essence is about
trying something new.
SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (42:35):
And here we are.
SPEAKER_00 (42:36):
You know, so our film company was called
Something New Films.
And we're like, oh, it'd be afun twist to put, you know, like
for our YouTube channel.
And that's how we came up withtrying something new because we
love trying new things.
And who knew this many yearslater, we're living it.
So
SPEAKER_02 (42:50):
perfect
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
example.
SPEAKER_02 (42:51):
I thought this podcast was over because usually
we end it with trying something
SPEAKER_00 (42:54):
new.
Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_02 (42:55):
But we just don't want to stop talking.
Well, you kept talking.
I know you keep talking and thenI keep talking.
So
SPEAKER_00 (42:59):
let's end it right now.
Should we end it?
Yeah.
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (43:02):
All
SPEAKER_00 (43:03):
right, you guys.
Don't say
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anything else because we'll just keep going.
Just when you think you have it all, McMansion, two
cars in the driveway, whitepicket fence, kids are in a
great school.
SPEAKER_02 (00:05):
You got a flat screen in every room.
You got the surround sound ofyour dreams.
You even have a bottle ofCristal in your smart fridge.
SPEAKER_00 (00:12):
But then there's a big black gaping hole inside and
you realize something's missing.
SPEAKER_02 (00:18):
What do you do?
That's what happened to us whenwe realized we need to rethink
this American dream.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
That was a hard one.
Welcome to podcast number eight.
We are so happy that you're hereand today is going to be a good
one Because I think just wherewe are in the world today, this
is happening a lot.
SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
Yeah, a lot of people are really taking a look
at their lives and rethinking,you know, what am I going after?
What am I trying to build?
And what is this thing calledthe American dream that we're
all, you know, striving
SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
for?
And then once we kind of getthere, or we think we have it
all, and then you realize thatthis is really not fulfilling.
This is not my dream.
That's exactly what happened tous about what 10 years ago.
It was a hard one, because wewere wondering, like, what is
missing?
Why are we not extremely happy?
Why are we not extremelyfulfilled?
(01:04):
And we realized that for us, theAmerican dream isn't having a
so-called successful business,the big house, rental
properties, everything that youthink you're supposed to have to
be considered successful.
We were happy, but we felt likethere was seriously something
missing.
And what was missing, Jimmy?
SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
I don't know.
I just felt like there wassomething wrong with us.
I mean, is everybody doing this?
Is it just us?
Are we having like a chemicalimbalance?
SPEAKER_00 (01:29):
Well, it's like that hand your will too like that
daily grind of the kids startedgoing to school and it just
became really difficult gettingthe kids up to go to school they
didn't want to go to school thenpicking the kids up from school
and now you have to do theirhomework and then you have to
get dinner ready and then rinseand repeat do the same thing the
next day five days a week weekafter week
SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
sounds like a lot of
SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
responsibility I realize I'm freaking miserable I
don't know the kids didn't seemlike they were happy I'm forcing
them to do this and do that andthen I know I wasn't happy as a
whole we we thought like isthere something wrong with us
like why are we not i don't knowit's like we have what we think
all the things that we'resupposed to be happy in life and
(02:09):
then we as we started to likesort of peel back the onion to
see like what's going on with usreally like let's get to the
root of this because we shouldbe good and we realized that
there was the the hamster wheeland all of that was sucking the
life out of us and the fun outof us and we wanted to tap back
into what truly made me firstoff me and a couple before we
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even had kids.
And what we really loved wastravel, adventure, experiences,
not just sitting in the houseand just doing the grind.
And so now that we have kids, wehad to really look at our life
like maybe the so-calledAmerican dream is not for
everybody.
I think that's really basicallywhat happened.
We were like, you know what?
We have a successful business.
(02:51):
We have all the things.
And this is not the answer.
The answer was we want toexperience life and live life to
the fullest.
But that's a challenge when thekids are in school and you have
all your mortgage and the billsand all this stuff that it
becomes challenging to sort ofjuggle both of those lives.
And we had to come to asolution.
What happened, Jimmy?
SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
All right.
Before we dive deep into this, Igot a quote here I want to start
off with.
It's something that I alwaysthink about.
I think it was a documentary onYouTube or Netflix or something.
And it was about people thatweren't living their dreams and
looking for something else.
And this lady said, I worked mywhole life to climb the
corporate ladder.
And when I got to the top, Irealized it was leaned against
the wrong tree.
and it was like oh man thatstill gives me goosebumps just
(03:32):
saying that because like damnwe've all been there right like
we've all worked jobs justtrying to get to the top I
worked at Nobu started as a busboy spent 10 years working there
worked my way all the way up torunning the restaurant and could
have traveled the world openingup other Nobu's and I was like
this just ain't for me man I amjust not happy here I was not
having a good time so let'sreally break down like what the
American dream is for everybodyis it home ownership is it
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fitting into the systemperfectly is it being maxed out
on credit cards and And how muchmoney you make every month is
exactly the amount that goes outthe door.
And there's really no time forsavings and going on vacations
and having experiences with yourkids.
Because at the end of the day, Ifeel like a lot of people are in
that place.
I feel like a lot of people thatare living the traditional
American lifestyle are in thatplace where people make a lot of
(04:16):
money.
I mean, I've heard stats beforewhere they said 60% of people
are living paycheck to paycheck.
And I think they said like 80%of people over$250,000 a year
are barely making it.
So it's crazy.
That's crazy, yeah.
You think two car payments,rent, all the stuff that goes
along with it, the price of foodgoing up, and then all the
activities that the kids are in.
Everything is meant just to suckyou dry is really
SPEAKER_00 (04:39):
what I feel like.
It's to keep you in the samespot.
SPEAKER_02 (04:41):
You go on your predictable vacation of the year
that's highly expensive and wayoverrated.
One
SPEAKER_00 (04:46):
week out of the year.
One
SPEAKER_02 (04:47):
week out of the year and you end up being miserable.
We've gone to Southeast Asia andspent less money than we would
spend on a typical Americanvacation here in the States.
So I think what really was atransitional point for us is we
have to define our owndefinition of success.
We have to come up to our ownconclusion on what success is
for us.
And for us, it was experiences,traveling the world and just
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being invigorated more oftenthan not.
And so we made a consciousdecision to test it out, test
the waters out and go toThailand one year for Christmas
instead of buying a whole bunchof Christmas gifts and kind of
forego the consumerism.
And it was by far the mostamazing thing that we've done in
a long time.
And I can't wait
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
to do it again.
Yeah, I think another bigeye-opener was, you know,
YouTube.
So while we were in our lifemeltdown at the time, it was
what it really felt like, wewere wondering, like, okay,
where do we go from here?
Because no one's talking aboutthis.
We felt like we were the onlyones feeling this.
We sort of like, you know, wetook a step back and we're like,
(05:48):
all right, we have to figurethis out.
So at the time, watchingYouTube, of course, and living
or actually getting exposed toother ways of living life and
Gone with the Winds, which was acouple that we were watching and
they were full time living in anRV and just traveling here and
traveling there.
Something about watching thatgave us like this aha moment of
(06:10):
like, wow, they are just there.
They have their home with themand they're just traveling all
over doing all of these reallyfun experiences and doing all
these cool things.
And we're like, wow, like it wasmore so Jimmy that was like,
hey, we should do that.
And my mind at the time was sooverwhelmed and worked that I
go, how the heck would would afamily move into an RV and do
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this?
So, you know, it didn't take mevery long to realize that might
be a solution.
Now, obviously, there's so manythings going on in your mind
because you're like, we builtthis film business.
It's doing amazing.
You know, the kids are in thegood school.
Like, everybody wants to live inthat neighborhood where there's
a good school for the kids to goto.
And now, honestly, we're livingin Nevada and Las Vegas, and
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they are not known for theirgood schools.
SPEAKER_02 (06:57):
They're ranked 47th in the country.
SPEAKER_00 (06:59):
They are not known.
But our kids were in a reallygood school.
So there was all these thingslike, what if, what if, what if?
Or at least that was my take onit.
What if this happens?
And what if we take them out?
And da-da-da, and all that.
SPEAKER_02 (07:13):
Can I pause you there for a second?
I just want to rewind.
I want to get back into thismoment for a minute.
Because people might be goingthrough this right now.
We do all these what ifs, whatifs, what ifs.
What if it works out?
What if it's the most amazingthing that ever happens in our
life?
What if it changes
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
our trajectory?
We don't think those what ifs.
We think, what if I screw up?
And what if we don't like it?
and what if we ruin our lives
SPEAKER_02 (07:32):
I think I'm the king of goosebumps here I'm just
gonna every episode I'm gonnaget goosebumps every episode
he's had goosebumps yeah butit's just like it's crazy though
correct because all we do isrewind us back to that time and
we are sitting there going howare we ever gonna make this work
like I don't know if we can makethis work and now that we're so
far down the road I look backand I go what the hell are you
talking about that's the dumbestthing you could ever say like
(07:54):
why is this easier than thatlife I don't fucking understand
SPEAKER_00 (07:58):
it it's crazy I literally just heard Mel Robbins
say something to this effect itwas we're so programmed to think
what if it doesn't work out whyshould I even try anyways what
if I just waste time when Ishould have done this and she
goes what if it does work outand what if it is amazing and
what if your life changes forthe most amazing like in the
(08:19):
most amazing way like what ifthat and I said you know what
that's really interestingbecause I never do that I never
do a what if in a positive wayand I said to myself that I am
going to from now on say what ifthis is the most amazing
decision I have ever madeinstead of what if we screw up
and so if you can relate to thatplease let us know because I
(08:40):
know we cannot be alone in this
SPEAKER_02 (08:42):
but it's just crazy to just to go back transport
yourself back 10 years whenwe're sitting in that house
going there's an RV in thedriveway and how are we gonna
it's so stupid so if anybody'ssitting there wondering how are
we gonna make this happen liketake it from us don't question
it just freaking
SPEAKER_00 (08:57):
go for it and you know what of the big concerns
that I had was like, what aboutall this stuff in the cabinets
and the closets and this?
And I know that can't fit an RV.
You know, the solution was sellit, throw it away.
And that was the most freeingthing we have ever done.
I'm not a hoarder by any means,but you do accumulate stuff like
year after year, every year thatyou're in a house.
(09:19):
I would love to know thepercentage of how much you
accumulate into the home thatyou don't even realize.
It's got to be massive.
SPEAKER_02 (09:26):
All right.
I didn't mean to interrupt youthere, but it was almost like a
moment where I was frustratedwith myself that we were so
juvenile and silly back then togo, what if?
I
SPEAKER_00 (09:36):
think it was more me than you.
You were ready to go.
I was a little bit of an anchor,which normally I am not an
anchor, but I
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
was.
But looking back at it now andthe amazing things that we've
done and accomplished and thepeople we've met and the
community that we built, I'mlike, what?
It is crazy.
It's almost frustrating to methat
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
we even had that mindset.
It is very frustrating, yeah.
So
SPEAKER_02 (09:55):
I want to ask the listeners out here, what is your
idea of success?
What is your idea of like theperfect American dream or your
ideal of, you know, you guysmade it, you're there, you're
doing it because, you know,we've met people from all
spectrums, from people that, youknow, don't have any money.
I mean, in life, we're chasingmoney some of the time, most of
the time, a lot of times becausemoney makes the world go around.
But people that don't havemoney, people have more money
(10:17):
than you can ever imagine.
And there's layers ofdissatisfaction in all of that.
And it's not like once you getto a point where you're at nine
figures, which some people weknow, they still, you know, It's
got the same problems now, whichis crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:31):
So I think this is interesting, right?
We were in our 30s, right?
When when all this was goingdown, we had like we checked all
the boxes of what you think likesuccess would look like.
So all the boxes were checkedand it didn't equal happiness.
It didn't equal fulfillment.
That's where we had to now peelback and say, OK, what will
fulfill us?
What makes us happy as a family,as individuals?
(10:54):
And that's when we sort ofrealized, like, wait a second,
we want to experience as much aspossible.
We want our kids to experienceas much as possible.
And that equaled fulfillment andhappiness for us.
SPEAKER_02 (11:07):
Woo, man.
All right.
So we realized that we had toredefine our dream, right?
And it could be the Americandream, but it's our American
dream.
And so, you know, if you're inthis position, which a lot of us
are, you're worried about whatthe people around you are going
to think.
And what is my family going tothink?
And, you know, I'm going to takethe kids out of school and I'm
going to sell our house that wehave equity in.
And we're just going to say,screw it and go travel.
So you got to deal with a lot ofthat stuff.
(11:27):
We're so far down the road rightnow that it doesn't even matter
to us what anybody thinks.
We're just doing us.
And that's good enough for usbecause we have that confidence
now.
All right, Sandy.
So the viewers are watching oranybody listening.
What What could you do or whatcan they do to get this ball
rolling into this living outtheir own dream?
SPEAKER_00 (11:43):
Whatever it is.
Well, that's a huge pivotalmoment, right?
Because that's what we wentthrough.
I think it's you have to definewhat success means for your
life, for your family, if you'rea couple, whatever it is.
What does that look like?
Is it landing that job thatyou're going to stay in and
climb that ladder for 40 yearsand give you that stability and
make your parents happy?
(12:04):
Is that the vision of success?
Does that fulfill you?
will that fulfill you 30 yearsdown the line buying that house
and paying off the mortgage andthen you have all of this
stability and security right ifthat equals success for you then
that's amazing and that willfulfill you ultimately now if
it's not and you think if youwere to be in a job for 40 years
you want to jump off a bridgebecause you're like that sucked
(12:28):
my life away that's not what Iwanted to do I don't want to be
in a position where I'm makingsomebody else's company
successful and I I devote mylife to that.
You know, for me, that wasdefinitely not the definition of
success.
So I would say you got to take acold, hard look at your life and
where you're at and what you gotgoing on and say, hold up.
(12:49):
If I look at my life doingexactly what I'm doing now, five
years, 10 years, 20 years fromnow, and I'm just progressing on
this journey, is that going tomake me happy?
On my deathbed, am I going to belike, man, that was the best
life I could have lived?
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
I dropped.
I left it all out there on thefield, man.
I ain't got nothing left in theworld.
the tank i'm all wrinkly frombeing out in the sun and i
freaking did it man
SPEAKER_00 (13:10):
so that's where i think you know and you hear we
listen to a lot of likemotivational videos on youtube
and they always say on yourdeathbed are you going to be
surrounded by the people and thelives that were fulfilled or by
all the the are you going to behaunted by the haunted by like
the dreams that were neverachieved or even like tried or
(13:31):
whatever are they going to behaunting you around your
deathbed for me i don't want tolive with regret i don't want to
live with those things of like,man, I really wish we lived on a
sailboat or I really wish wewould have traveled the country
in the RV with the kids andshowed them all these cool
experiences.
But I stayed in this job and,you know, I never did any of
that.
I think that's taking a clearlook at your life and say, if
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I'm continuing to doing what I'mdoing now, 20 years from now, is
that going to be fulfilling?
Because that was an honest lookthat we had to take at our own
lives.
You know, we built this filmbusiness from nothing, not
knowing anything.
And we're like, all right, wewere living in Las Vegas.
All Like our business was justskyrocketing.
It was from the get go.
We were like, damn, we gotreally lucky here.
(14:12):
You know, we're trying somethingbrand new and it's working.
And, you know, we had noexperience in this realm.
It should have been good.
Like, but that's where we had tolook at it and say, if we
continue on like this and 10years down the line, we're still
doing this.
I am not going to be happy.
SPEAKER_02 (14:28):
Yeah, we are in the wedding business.
And, you know, you see some ofthe people that never get out
and then they're like 50, 60,some one couple
SPEAKER_00 (14:35):
was 70 years old.
They're on re and they're nothappy.
Still
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
filming, you know?
And I'm like, holy crap.
These girls are like 70 yearsold, still out here doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:43):
So what did we do?
We like bucked everything and wesaid, you know what?
We're buying an RV and we'regoing to move it move into it.
We're going to sell everything,get rid of it all.
And once we did that, I swearit's like the seas parted, the
sky opened up, and we felt free.
SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
Yeah.
Well, I felt like the universewas like, oh, finally, you're on
your way.
SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
Come this way.
You're paying attention toyourself and not society,
SPEAKER_02 (15:10):
right?
Come this way, young sapling,and let me open all the doors of
opportunity for you.
Yeah, we were young Jedi tryingto learn
SPEAKER_01 (15:18):
the way, right?
So
SPEAKER_02 (15:19):
now we're Jedi masters, so We were young pups
at the time.
And the force says, come thisway.
And everything works out.
And it always works out.
It works out better if you couldhave told us this is where we'd
be at today.
I would never believe you.
I would say it's not possible.
Not going to happen.
Not us.
This is not our journey.
And here we are today going,holy crap.
(15:41):
Now,
SPEAKER_00 (15:41):
did we have people that were not our cheerleaders
thinking that we were crazy andpulling our kids out of school
and doing all that?
Absolutely.
And but I think for us, whatfirst off, I couldn't care less.
Right.
Like I'm like, if you feel thatway, more power to you.
I don't care.
SPEAKER_02 (15:57):
I don't care what you do.
SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
I don't care.
Yeah.
I don't care how you live inyour life.
But let me tell you, when you dosomething different, people are
very vocal and opinionated andthey want you to know that.
And I say
SPEAKER_02 (16:08):
the biggest one is I don't agree with what you guys
are doing.
And I said, that's funny becauseI don't agree with what you're
doing.
I don't agree with staying atthe same place and being
miserable for 40 years and thensitting on the couch and and
dying.
I don't believe in that.
So I think what you're doing isstupid.
You think what I'm doing isstupid.
So, dabs.
SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
So, I mean, our parents weren't necessarily
those people.
They were like, my mom alwaysknew I was crazy.
So it didn't faze her eitherway.
If you are facing that sort ofjudgment or whatever from people
closest to you, the only thing Ican say is they have a chance to
live their life however theylike.
You're not putting all of yourideals on them.
(16:48):
You're like, hey, live yourlife.
That's awesome.
I'm going to live mine now.
Some people have veryoverbearing parents and I'm
like, cut that cord because it'stime to live life.
Like if we look at it, it allboils down to we only get one
chance at this life, right?
We only have one time here onearth.
Whether you believe in anythingelse, totally cool.
But right now in this body, weget one chance.
(17:10):
I am not going to play small orlive by somebody else's ideals
or whatever, because screw that.
No one's paying my bills, right?
It's like I'm doing all of thison my own and I'm going to live
it the way I feel that we arehappy as a family.
We're fulfilled.
Our kids are doing amazingthings.
(17:31):
And if you don't like it, I'msorry.
Then, you know, bye.
SPEAKER_02 (17:34):
Don't be along for the journey.
So this isn't all about movinginto an RV and just saying buck
the system and just, you know,living wild dreams down by the
river and fishing for food.
You know what I mean?
That's not what we're talkingabout.
This is just like in general,anything that has to do with a
dream that you have, a desire,angle that you want to take or a
place you want to go, go for it.
for it, man.
Start small and build yourselfup and just go.
Just try it out.
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And we have a famous quote froma famous friend that says, if it
doesn't work out.
SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
Oh, you can always go back to it.
If it doesn't work out.
Never try, never know.
Right.
And so whatever it is that youfeel maybe your calling is to be
or to do or we we are huge, hugeadvocates for living your own
life and living it to thefullest.
And so whatever if it's likechanging a career, trying
something new, I think youreally at the end of the day you
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don't want to be 60 70 80 yearsold and and be like damn like i
did it wrong
SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
what
SPEAKER_00 (18:27):
if like i climbed the ladder but it was the wrong
ladder so and that to me is like
SPEAKER_02 (18:32):
so if you guys don't have anybody out there as a
support system lean on usbecause
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
we will be your biggest cheerleaders
SPEAKER_02 (18:38):
we love when people go for it and they try it and it
works out well and it's liketold you
SPEAKER_00 (18:43):
told you man just gotta go for
SPEAKER_02 (18:45):
it
SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
you know so i have a tattoo on the inside of my arm
it says to thine own self betrue and I Always want to really
authentically live like thatbecause you can live this way,
that way.
You can make this one happy,that one happy.
You can go to school to be adoctor because that's what your
parents put on you.
And then ultimately you're like,I really just want to be like a
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dancer or I want to do somethingcompletely different.
And I feel like it's such adisservice.
I know parents want the best fortheir kids and maybe have like a
profession that's going to paywell and it's very stable.
But ultimately, if your heart'snot into it, it's always going
to be miserable, you know.
And you can make the best of it,but ultimately you only get one
life.
And so you have to be true toyourself.
SPEAKER_02 (19:27):
So I think at the end of the day, why chase your
dreams?
Why go for it?
Why buck the system andeverything you've ever known and
go against the grain?
And it's all for fulfillment.
At the end of the day, you haveto be fulfilled.
You have to feel like your soulis filled from the inside out
and you're giving it your alland you're doing the best that
you can.
And you're in charge of yourjourney, your experience, your
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essence, your time here onearth.
And so I think really beingfulfilled at at the end of this
is what it's all about.
And that's why we're sopassionate about it because we
know what can happen if you gofor it.
And some things that havehappened to us is like we are
tapped in.
You know those turtles that getin the stream?
What do they call that?
Oh, shoot.
The current.
The turtles that get in thecurrent and they're like,
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Cowabunga, dude.
We're just on the current toAustralia.
You know what I mean?
Like that's really how I feelonce you tap in.
You're just like, all right,we're on the ride.
And so many amazing things havehappened for us and to us and
about us just because we are ontrack track, just doing our
things, living our life, andbeing true to ourselves.
SPEAKER_00 (20:25):
I always think about this.
I'm like, if we never took theleap back then and really
uprooted and changed our entirelives, where we would be today
if we were still in the samehouse, our kids were still going
to school, we were still in thatsame neighborhood, where would
we be today?
How would our mental state betoday?
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
That's almost heartbreaking
SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
to think about it.
And I think we would beextremely bored in life.
I think we would definitely feelway less no sense of
fulfillment.
I can't even imagine because wewere, that was 10 years ago and
we were feeling that way.
But a lot of people are just,we'll just stay with the
familiar, right?
SPEAKER_02 (21:00):
I got a couple of quick stories for you.
So I was working at Nobu, greatjob, making great money, running
the place.
And when I left, everybody'slike, you are so dumb for
leaving.
How are you?
You've worked 10 years to get upto this point and now you're
just going to walk away.
Like, are you stupid?
And I'm like, I just can't do itanymore since it's not in me.
I'm doing a disservice to thisplace by being here because I
don't have the passion that Iused to have to lead the team.
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Right.
And so So in that, when I left,everybody was, you know, there's
people supporting you, but a lotof people are like, you're so
dumb for leaving.
SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
And then they make you like second guess yourself.
You're like, am I doingsomething stupid?
Like I worked myself all the wayup.
I could start opening Nobu's allaround the world.
And then, you know, you reallysecond guess yourself.
Like, am I, what if?
Like, we don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (21:40):
Even Sandy, when she quit her job, she had a great
job and great money.
And people were like, you're sodumb.
You're so dumb.
SPEAKER_00 (21:45):
Yeah, they certainly did.
SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
And so here's the flip is we go back to Nobu five
years ago.
after I quit and the same peopleare there I mean nothing against
that like do your thing rightbut the same people that are
there doing the same things and
SPEAKER_00 (21:58):
we're and then no what did they say though you
were so smart to leave becauseI'm stuck here
SPEAKER_02 (22:02):
oh and then Sandy was and then Sandy was working
at the Palms slinging drinksdoing cocktails and stuff like
SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
that a Las Vegas cocktail
SPEAKER_02 (22:11):
making great money right but we go back we go back
in there and it's 10 years laterand the same girls are in the
same sections doing the samething and it was like
SPEAKER_00 (22:19):
holy you know okay let's look at Having the same
job for 10 years or we havetraveled around the country, we
have traveled around the world,we lived over in Southeast Asia
for almost like a total of ayear, we've done so many cool
things that I go, it's such afork in the road, right?
Like the fork of staying in thejob and it's very predictable
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what you're doing every day ortaking that chance, taking the
leap into really the unknown andit turned out that we...
We've done absolutely amazing
SPEAKER_02 (22:50):
things.
Would you say because we were inVegas, we gambled?
We took a risk?
We
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
gambled?
We were not gamblers, but yes.
In our life, we did take a verybig gamble.
SPEAKER_02 (22:58):
I don't want this to come off as braggadocious or
anything.
This is supposed to be inspiringand inspirational.
We are in awe of what we'veaccomplished because we didn't
think that it wasaccomplishable.
We're still on the journey.
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
We still surprise ourselves.
SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
It's not done.
The journey is not done for us.
We feel like the journey is justgetting started because the next
iteration that we have of whatwe're working on right now is...
going to be a next level ofunlock for us that we didn't
think was possible and so yeahit's just steps it's it's time
it's just motion it's
SPEAKER_00 (23:27):
just so i think this was our story we want to hear
your story like are you in aposition where you're like you
know what i really don't likewhat i'm doing and i really
don't care for this job and inever really thought about it
until i said oh like picturemyself 10 years from now do i
want to be in the same job iwant you guys to look at your
life and your situation and sayis this this really fulfilling?
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Am I fulfilled in my life?
Am I feeling alive every daywhen I wake up?
Is this like, yeah, or is itlike Monday every day where I
just don't want to go to work?
SPEAKER_02 (23:58):
Sandy gets mad on the weekends because people
don't work on the weekends.
Not that you love work, but youwant things to happen,
SPEAKER_00 (24:07):
right?
I think because we're not in anine to five situation.
Our kids don't go to school.
So we aren't in that Mondaythrough Friday mindset.
And so for me, I'm I'm like,every day is an opportunity to
work and do this and that.
I don't have that like a strictmind of like today's work
Monday.
Oh, I got to go back to workbecause we work pretty much
every day.
SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
Even like getting up in the morning, if we sleep in
till, I don't know, seveno'clock, I'm like, damn it.
Like we missed like an hour anda half of like getting more
stuff done.
So that shows us that we'retapped into what our purpose is
and our calling is because wecan't wait to get back at it the
next day and see what else wecan uncover.
All right, Sandy, time for alittle disrupt, a little
interruption, a little reset onthe energy here.
And we're going to do a littlethis that speed fire round on
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some questions.
All right, let's go.
So people can get to know us alittle bit better.
SPEAKER_00 (24:55):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (24:56):
All right, Sandy, I'm going to start off with you.
Rapid fire questions.
What is your favorite placeyou've ever traveled to?
SPEAKER_00 (25:00):
Bora Bora.
SPEAKER_02 (25:01):
Okay.
How come?
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
Oh, the water.
I've never in my life seen suchgorgeous water.
I mean, the whole vibe, thatlittle island, everything is
just amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (25:11):
All right.
Next question.
What is one thing you can't livewithout?
Why on the road?
SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
My flat iron.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
Flat iron.
All right.
I'm digging that.
Is that because of your hair?
It's
SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
because of my hair.
All
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
right.
Cool.
All right.
What's your favorite meal tocook in the RV?
SPEAKER_00 (25:25):
Pizza.
Pizza or salad, yeah.
We're big, man.
SPEAKER_02 (25:28):
Tortellinis.
SPEAKER_00 (25:29):
Keep going.
SPEAKER_02 (25:31):
What is your best travel memory with the kids?
What's your best memory with thekids?
Do you have a moment?
Jumping off a cliff together,snorkeling
SPEAKER_00 (25:39):
on statues.
It would be probably someunderwater adventure with the
kids, like whale sharks or mantarays.
SPEAKER_02 (25:45):
I think that would probably be mine, too.
That was just so magical.
All right.
What is your favorite food?
your dream travel destination?
SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
Okay, so the Maldives I would love to go to,
but I think Bora Bora with thekids because I really want the
kids to experience that.
So we've been there, but I wantthe kids to.
And the Maldives might besecond.
SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
I don't know.
Bora Bora is much of a familydestination.
SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
What do you mean?
It's water.
I know it's got like thehoneymoon vibe,
SPEAKER_02 (26:07):
but
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
I don't care.
SPEAKER_02 (26:08):
All right.
What's the most challengingthing about RV life?
SPEAKER_00 (26:11):
Challenging.
Probably travel days becauseloading up all the bikes and
doing all that because there'sreally not many challenging
things I would say loading andunloading the garage probably.
It takes a while.
It takes like a
SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
day to do the whole thing in and out.
What's one thing you wish the RVhad that it doesn't?
Is there anything you wish forin here?
No, we kind of got a lot
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
of stuff in here.
Let's see.
A pool.
SPEAKER_02 (26:31):
All right.
A pool.
I like that one.
What's your favorite part ofbeing next to me in close
quarters?
SPEAKER_00 (26:37):
The favorite part?
SPEAKER_02 (26:38):
Yeah.
What's
SPEAKER_00 (26:38):
your favorite part of living together?
Because I don't like being awayfrom you.
So I like that we're always likenext to each other in the same
room, I guess.
SPEAKER_02 (26:45):
It's funny when we got to separate and go
SPEAKER_00 (26:46):
do things.
Unless we're arguing, then I'mlike, get away.
When
SPEAKER_02 (26:49):
we got to separate and go do things, I'm like,
hurry up and get back.
SPEAKER_00 (26:52):
Yeah.
I
SPEAKER_02 (26:53):
miss you.
All right, Sandy, now it's yourtime to ask me a couple speed
round questions.
SPEAKER_00 (26:58):
Oh, all righty.
Okay, if you could pick onlyone, class A or RV or fifth
wheel?
SPEAKER_02 (27:03):
I would have to say fifth wheel.
Just so much more room, so muchbetter of a living experience.
We only drive 10% of the time.
We live 90% of the time.
I would rather be more
SPEAKER_00 (27:12):
comfortable.
More space.
While we're living.
Yep, I hear you.
Favorite road trip snack?
SPEAKER_02 (27:17):
Ooh, favorite road, you know, Lately, Skyler got
some beef jerky, and you put itin your mouth, and I was like,
holy
SPEAKER_01 (27:22):
crap.
Really?
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
Yeah.
I was a vegetarian for 12 years.
SPEAKER_01 (27:25):
Really?
Beef
SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
jerky?
I put this jerky in my mouth,and it's like this sensory
overload explosion
SPEAKER_00 (27:31):
of
SPEAKER_02 (27:31):
umami in your mouth.
And I'm like, man, give me someumami.
Gosh.
SPEAKER_00 (27:38):
All right.
What's the best RV mod we'vedone so far?
SPEAKER_02 (27:42):
Well, you know, there's a lot of good ones.
The full-on suspension is great.
The solar is absolutely amazing.
But one One that I like that weuse every day is the LED lights
from Boogie Lights.
I love lighting this thing up atnight and make it look good.
SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
The lights.
SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
Yeah, the lights.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (27:57):
All right.
One item you bring on every roadtrip, no matter what.
SPEAKER_02 (28:01):
Ooh, that's a good one.
How about a cell phone?
SPEAKER_00 (28:05):
I think you have that
SPEAKER_02 (28:06):
regardless.
SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
What do we, I don't know.
That's kind
SPEAKER_02 (28:10):
of a, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (28:10):
We have everything with us.
SPEAKER_02 (28:12):
My RV.
SPEAKER_00 (28:13):
Yeah.
My whole house.
SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
Everything I own.
SPEAKER_00 (28:17):
That's a good one.
All right.
What's one travel location you'dgo back to in a heartbeat?
SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
Anything around water.
We love the Keys.
We go back to the Keys quite abit.
I don't know.
I would go back to the Keys in aheartbeat.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
What if it wasn't in the RV?
If it could be anywhere?
SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
Go back to a place?
I would have to say Bora Bora.
SPEAKER_00 (28:39):
That place
SPEAKER_02 (28:39):
is just insane.
I don't know.
It would remind me of a BoraBora trip
SPEAKER_00 (28:44):
to the future.
I would be happy about that.
Let's see.
What Favorite workout routine onthe road?
SPEAKER_02 (28:50):
Anything where lifting weights.
I just love working my chestbecause when I grew up, I had a
bird chest and I always got madefun of.
And so I always put a littleextra love into my chest trying
to get it to that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:00):
I feel the same way with legs, man.
SPEAKER_02 (29:02):
That Instagram status.
SPEAKER_00 (29:03):
What's been the toughest part of RV living?
SPEAKER_02 (29:06):
I don't know.
We've kind of gone over this ina lot of other videos, but some
of the toughest stuff iscreating community, finding your
people on the road.
And I don't know, travel day isamazing.
I love it because we're movingspots, but just the loading up,
just, I don't know.
It gets old after a while.
Tired of putting the bikes inand taking them out, putting
them in, taking them out,putting them in.
SPEAKER_00 (29:21):
Oh, especially if it's raining.
SPEAKER_02 (29:23):
You got any more?
Yep,
SPEAKER_00 (29:24):
I have.
What's the best part ofparenting on the road?
SPEAKER_02 (29:29):
The thing for me that I absolutely love is seeing
all these new experiencesthrough the kids' eyes and just
seeing their energy andexcitement.
And even lately, like we justdid a NASCAR event and to see
the, I don't know, theexcitement, the wonder, the
energy on the kids.
It just, it's really rewarding.
And it just like, it makes melike, damn, that's freaking
awesome.
I These kids are so lucky.
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I'd love to be able to createthat for them and just see it
through their eyes.
Because when we do it byourselves, it's just like, eh.
But when we do it with kids,that's pretty
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
cool.
All right, last one.
If you could change one thingabout RV life, what would it be?
SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
One thing about RV life?
I would get more people outhere.
I would let people see what thislife is all about and see how
you don't have to live a lifethat you're miserable at.
And even if it's just for aweekend, a week, whatever, just
come out here with your familyand just connect with other
people and realize that thisworld is pretty dang cool and
there's a lot of cool people outhere i like it i like it
SPEAKER_00 (30:20):
more people more people we need more people on
the road
SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
yes all right should we get back to the the videos of
how to live your dream and notthe superficial dream
SPEAKER_00 (30:27):
let's do it so is the regular american dream that
we've all known for many manyyears our parents our
grandparents is that the dreamfor you are you gonna maybe go
hey maybe maybe that isn't thedream for me the picket fence
and i really don't care aboutthe picket fence i don't care
about the house i really don'tcare about this house anyways is
it seeing and doing crazyexperiences, does that set your
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soul on fire?
I think for us, that's like setyour soul on fire.
That's exactly it.
SPEAKER_02 (30:55):
Sounds like a t-shirt.
SPEAKER_00 (30:56):
Does what sets your soul on fire?
If you have a dream of doingsomething and but where you're
at right now and the trajectoryof what you're doing, if that
doesn't align with that, well,then maybe it's like, oh, maybe
I should take a look at that andsay, what can I do that will
align with my actual dreams formy life?
Because it's not a one size fitsall, right?
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The American dream the way it isand the way we think about it is
it's a one size fits all.
I think the whole purpose ofthis podcast right now is we had
that aha moment 10 years agothat made us literally change
everything.
Now for you, maybe it's justhaving an aha moment of like,
man, I really want to thinkabout what my dreams are and
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what really sets my soul onfire.
And maybe just start looking atthat and say, are you in
alignment with where you areright now to get there?
Because I think, you know, likeI said, Tomorrow is not
guaranteed.
SPEAKER_01 (31:49):
Not at all.
SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
Not guaranteed.
And so if it's not guaranteed,then I better make sure I'm
doing everything I can today toalign with what I really want to
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
do.
So I got two points.
I want to just drive home beforewe wrap this up.
But the first point is like, youknow, Sandy just turned 50.
She just celebrated herbirthday.
Happy birthday to you.
Thank you.
I should do some sound effectsright now.
Oh,
SPEAKER_00 (32:07):
yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:08):
They're not on right now.
Sandy just turned 50.
I'm 48.
Like, I truly think because weare tapped into like what our
purpose is, that it keeps usyoung.
It keeps us
SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
young at heart.
Young at
SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
heart, always adventuring.
We don't have this icky stresson us that's wearing us down and
tearing away at the way we lookand present ourselves and feel.
I
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
think the stress is a huge thing.
And
SPEAKER_02 (32:28):
so it's absolutely amazing.
I'm like, holy crap.
I really feel like I'm 30.
I know you feel
SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
like you're 28.
I feel like I look better than Idid.
I see pictures that we havehanging on the wall and I was
like 34.
And I go, man, I feel like Ilook better now than I did then.
SPEAKER_02 (32:40):
So that's one of the things I think that when you're
tapped in and when you're reallyaligned with your purpose, that
you're timeless, right?
You don't age every day.
It's like the fountain of youth.
Yeah, tapping in the fountain
SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
of youth.
Actually, happiness probablyequals the fountain of youth in
a sense because you're notstressed out.
You're not, you know.
I mean, don't get it wrong.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
We have stress.
Like, don't
SPEAKER_00 (32:58):
get it wrong.
Well, no, but going to a jobthat you hate, that's stressful.
SPEAKER_02 (33:01):
I can't imagine asking somebody for a day off or
it just doesn't even make senseto me.
And
SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
it's just weird.
Well, I think going to a jobthat you literally hate, I think
that is such a disservice toyour beautiful life that you
were given.
SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
And another point that I wanted to drive home is
like when you start surroundyourself with like-minded
individuals that are actually, Idon't want to say entrepreneurs,
but people that are out livingtheir dreams and doing what they
want.
It's just so symbiotic.
Everything just aligns.
And that's what I love aboutthis RV space is everybody's
made a conscious decision to beout here.
So when we have meetups and weall get together, everybody's of
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the same mindset and of the sameenergy.
And so when we were talkingearlier about family, our RV
crew is our family becausethey're the ones who are out
here doing it with us andexperiencing it and growing and
learning and connecting and andall that stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (33:48):
Well, they all took a chance.
They all took a chance.
SPEAKER_02 (33:51):
I mean, we got some RV friends that walked away from
huge businesses or did this orretired earlier or sold their
house or got out of it, youknow?
So yeah, I mean, it runs a gamutall the way around.
So
SPEAKER_00 (34:01):
this podcast is to shake you up a little bit and
make you look at your own lifeand say, is this the best life I
could be living right now?
Because I know the last thinganybody wants to do is climb up
the ladder and realize it's thewrong ladder.
And then you look down and yougo, I wasted so many
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
years.
Too many years.
Might as well just stay in itbecause, you know, I got the
golden handcuffs.
SPEAKER_00 (34:23):
So being 50 years old right now, I feel like I've
had many different lifetimes.
And I feel like every sort ofpart of my life, I evolved into
a better version of myself.
And there's been many differentthings that I've had going on
that I know it's just anevolution of life, right?
And so where we're at right now,there's going to be another
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evolution of where we want to beand what we want to to do and
we're going to have to take morechances.
But we know now that beingauthentic to that and listening
to the nagging feeling inside isa sign of we have to look at
something.
So, Jimmy, what is somethingthat people can do if they
realize, hey, maybe I'm not sosatisfied in my life right now?
SPEAKER_02 (35:05):
I think one of the biggest things that helped us
was we actually, when I workedat Nobu, there was a guy who
came in, multi-millionaire, andI mentored under him for a
little bit.
And he said, you have to set adate for anything big that you
want to accomplish in
SPEAKER_00 (35:15):
your life.
Set a date.
SPEAKER_02 (35:16):
So he's like, you got to set a date.
You got to set a date.
And for me, it was the set adate for the time to leave Nobu.
And so I set a date and it wasfour months out because I wanted
to give the management time toreplace me.
And once I set that date, thingsstart happening so fast that we
barely made it a month.
And I was like, oh, my gosh,this is amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
I'm so sorry, but I have to go.
I'm so sorry.
I got
SPEAKER_02 (35:33):
to dip out a little bit earlier.
You guys can handle this.
You'll be good.
So I think the most importantthing is like visualize what you
want to do, write it down onpaper and set a date for, you
know, the for all this tohappen, whatever it is you want
to happen.
For us, it was I want going toquit Nobu after 10 years and
we're going to go all in on ourfilm production company.
And the business started pickingup so hot and heavy in that time
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period that I think myintentions were set.
And so everything was deliveredto us.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
Well, you know, they say where focus goes, energy
flows, and we fully believethat.
So once you stop focusing on thestuff that you're currently
doing that you don't like andyou put the focus into what you
do want to happen, I'm tellingyou, it's like the universe
conspires for you and makes ithappen.
All
SPEAKER_02 (36:17):
right.
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full-time content creators andmaybe have a glimpse at living
this life right here.
So if you guys are interested,we're going to have an email
opt-in where you can drop youremail, you get access to a
webinar, and you can check itout and watch it and see if
you've learned anything, if youwant to be a content creator,
and if you want to go down thisjourney, this road with us, and
(36:39):
let us collapse that timeline.
Because as I mentored underpeople before, it's great to
mentor under people who'vealready done it before you
because what took us six yearsto get here, we can help teach
you in a very, very short amountof time.
SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
Woo! Man.
All right.
So yeah, I would say if you do,if you are at a point in your
life, if say maybe you'relistening to our words today and
you're saying, yeah, no, Iactually never really thought
about that, but no, I don't, Idon't want to live this, this
life that I'm living right now.
I highly recommend figuring outwhat do you want to do?
Like what is, what are thedreams and the goals that maybe
(37:15):
you didn't think about becauseyou're just too busy busy doing
the nine to five or doingwhatever it is that you're doing
and say hold up if I didn't havethis job what would I love to do
right now and start putting thatenergy into that like how can
you make it happen how can youmanifest that to happen once you
start focusing on that I'm goingto tell you crazy things are
going to happen andopportunities may align and
(37:37):
doors are going to open and thenyou're going to realize whoa
like the light is way brighterin this new direction and I can
leave this one behind whichisn't serving me I'm not serving
this them because i'm not reallyhappy there and uh and you might
have a brand new life ahead ofyou and so or maybe just
tweaking your life and uh addingin more fun we're
SPEAKER_02 (37:56):
extreme so we're like change your life right now
we're kind of extreme so
SPEAKER_00 (37:59):
so as you are setting up these new dreams and
goals and whatever it is it'sgoing to make you feel like life
is amazing there is obviouslygoing to be self-doubt and
challenges and all of that andit's absolutely natural but for
us you always just have to keepthat end goal in sight and
visualize what it's going to belike when you get there and when
all these things start happeningour friend Patrick from
(38:21):
bumfuzzle I swear that dude hesaid one line and it changed my
life and my outlook oneverything which maybe will help
you I was like what if this andwhat if that and this was to
move into the RV and sort oflike change our whole life he
goes you know what just try itand if you don't like it your
old life will always be waitingthere for you and I was like oh
because I didn't like my oldlife and I go you know what I'm
(38:43):
gonna definitely try thisbecause anything is better than
my old life because I I didn'tlike it.
I wasn't happy.
And so I throw that off to you.
And if you try it and if youdon't like it, guess what?
You can go back to that job or ajob, similar job or whatever,
and go back to that neighborhoodand, you know, just keep on
trucking.
But you never know unless youtry.
(39:04):
And so whenever, of course, thatself-doubt is going to creep in
or people are going to be like,what are you doing?
I highly recommend maybe findinga new group of friends or
friends that are in the arena ofwhat you want.
want to do because the supportof friends is is really
important and we didn't realizethat until we built a community
around us that were likecheerleaders for you know our
(39:26):
new adventures and whatnot andthen i was like oof so we are
very passionate about being thatfor others because we know how
crucial it is and sometimes wejust need somebody to go you
know what it's all right thatyou're feeling this keep going
because you're almost thereyou're closer and closer every
day and then all of a sudden thelight bulb happens and then it's
SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
like i'm here i'm in the arena i'm
SPEAKER_00 (39:47):
And then, you know, so we have to all be
cheerleaders for each other andbe accepting of people being
cheerleaders for us.
No matter what challenge, nomatter doubt, whatever.
Always know that your drive foryour dreams to come true is way
stronger and will trump all ofthat.
SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
So I just want to say what our mission statement
was when we started.
And maybe that'll help you guysbecause we didn't know how it
was going to happen.
But being en route, it justhappened.
So our mission statement wasalways to be self-sustaining on
the road and make money fromanywhere.
And...
That was kind of our thing,right?
So think about it again.
We're going to beself-sustaining anywhere on the
road so we don't have to have ahome base and we can make money
(40:24):
from anywhere in the world.
SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
And because with our film business, we were getting
jobs all over literally theworld, but we didn't want to
necessarily continue doing that.
And at the time, we did not knowwhat other way we would make
money besides our film business.
But we just knew, like, keptthinking, okay, what other ways
can we make money and this andthat.
And that's when social mediasort of turned into our
(40:46):
full-time experience.
It
SPEAKER_02 (40:47):
took us four years of being on that journey of
we're going to make this work nomatter what.
We're going to beself-sustaining anywhere in the
world and make money fromanywhere.
So it took us four or five yearsto get going on that.
But that was always the dream.
That was always the desire.
And here we are.
And
SPEAKER_00 (41:01):
you're always like fine tuning and fine tuning and
figuring out and getting closerto the goal.
Right.
Just so you know, we are herefor you.
We would love to hear what yourdreams and goals are.
Put them in the comments becausewe want to sort of get that
energy we're going to focus onthat energy for you to make that
happen we get tons of emails dmswhere people like say just in
(41:23):
the rv life they're like i ihate my job i want to just
travel with my kids or i'm i'mi'm single and i just want to
travel the world how do i dothis and you know the first step
is okay visualize what it isthat you want is it is it an rv
is it traveling around the worldis it backpacking whatever the
goal is you have to startthinking about it maybe putting
(41:43):
it down on paper how can i makethis happen now and take the
steps to make that happen likeyou can't just make a vision
board and sit on the couch andbe like man i really want that i
want all that to come to lifeand but you're not doing
anything for it you know you'renot taking the steps
SPEAKER_02 (41:56):
and a lot of times the answer reveals itself in the
journey yes so that's a big parttoo like we don't know what is
ahead of us but if i'm goingthat direction then things will
reveal themselves and doors willopen and opportunities
SPEAKER_00 (42:07):
but you do need to take steps and you do need to
take action and when you doamazing things can happen
SPEAKER_02 (42:14):
all right guys that's our love fest for the day
our most Our motivation, ourinspiration to get you guys to
get out there and try
SPEAKER_00 (42:22):
something new.
Literally, literally.
Like this one's all about tryingsomething new.
SPEAKER_02 (42:27):
Our vision is so good and so grand when we
developed it and we didn't knowthat our whole essence is about
trying something new.
SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (42:35):
And here we are.
SPEAKER_00 (42:36):
You know, so our film company was called
Something New Films.
And we're like, oh, it'd be afun twist to put, you know, like
for our YouTube channel.
And that's how we came up withtrying something new because we
love trying new things.
And who knew this many yearslater, we're living it.
So
SPEAKER_02 (42:50):
perfect
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
example.
SPEAKER_02 (42:51):
I thought this podcast was over because usually
we end it with trying something
SPEAKER_00 (42:54):
new.
Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_02 (42:55):
But we just don't want to stop talking.
Well, you kept talking.
I know you keep talking and thenI keep talking.
So
SPEAKER_00 (42:59):
let's end it right now.
Should we end it?
Yeah.
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (43:02):
All
SPEAKER_00 (43:03):
right, you guys.
Don't say
SPEAKER_02 (43:06):
anything else because we'll just keep going.
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