Episode 34: Steven Tally

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I got the whiskey. Let me have a drink your whiskey. Better get out of here

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My name is Ken and I clean Willie Nelson's under hole
I know you don't agree, but I think he's the king of country get the fuck out of her
Get out of my studio. No, hell no
From the Ramona radio studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show

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All right, we're here happy Sunday. Hope everybody had a good week. I'm Travis Billy Ross
Welcome to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show and
And with with me as always with me as always sweet curbs

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Sweet curbs
Oh, yeah, and with me as always mr. Eric go forth

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All right, yo, we got a very cool awesome guest with us tonight, mr. Steve Talley
How are you my friend great? Thanks for having me. Where do you guys get those theme song? Oh, we made them
Do you want a theme song?
Watch what you wish for

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Steve Talley you got it. You got whiskey over there. I do I do in the whiskey revival glass. Oh that is
Miss miss the other bands a special little glass there. How are you doing, man? Good
Thanks for having me over it took me a while to get here. Yeah
I almost rolled here from my house. I saw your golf cart out there

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Great I looked at it on the map I
Thought I better leave some time. I got to get across town
It might be down some road on a ranch somewhere whatever and I put it in there and it said estimated arrival time two minutes
sweet
Oh, yeah, I'm taking the golf cart. Yeah, I'm taking the golf cart. That's a cool. You guys are my neighbors golf carts, man

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Heck yeah, dude, so tell us a little bit about yourself. Mr. Talley. All right, there's a lot
I hope we cover all right cover a lot of our fun. So you live in Ramona now
I do it was a word word. What did you originally originally come from?
So I came here our family came here Navy family dad Navy captain in 1975 and
That was cuz he was a submarine captain on the East Coast then after a little stint in Washington, DC

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He was a nuclear cruiser captain out here
if I knew of the any of the Navy guys are wondering it was the Berg all the submarine and the truck's then was the
Cruiser and he was the captain of those and we came on out here and and so I did like middle school Pershing Pershing
Yes, and then Patrick Henry and so after my dad retired they moved away and I just stayed here

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So he goes my was my jam
Nap not leaving
You know, Connecticut was great for when you're a kid but yeah, you know, San Diego do that age of San Diego come here one time
you're like, nah, I don't want to leave so
Ended up here and then going to
Going to college San Diego State after high school for a little while and I'll talk a little later about how that was interrupted

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by ten years of touring
You know when I ended how did I get to Ramona to cut to the chase?
I met a Poway girl. So I'm playing at a band in a bar in a Poway bar
When did you move up to Ramona? We moved up here in 2009 and when when there's a lot of houses available
Oh, yeah
And we we just I never pictured myself being up in Ramona ever or any place like this and it couldn't be happier

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It's just the best town in the world and that was before this music scene happened
So, you know, this is just gravy, you know in the first ten years I lived here
There was not really a music scene
Yeah
so I was playing with my other bands and things all around Temecula get you know down to the beach and downtown and
We'll talk about a little about how that happened. I'm sure later on but

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Don't even have to leave it Ramona to play. I know dude. This is becoming the most music scene
In Ramona here like it's been a friggin amazing past couple years a lot a lot of good musicians
You're one of them. You're you play with a trio and you play in a lot of other stuff
Ash in the Mondays and
The bottom line trio tell us about the bottom line trio

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So that's a that was the first that was the first one that I had ever seen you in. Yeah, it's a band
I've been in it when I when I
Left to go back to graduate school
I left the scene, you know
It was it was a long story
But you know a lot of people that were flirting with record contracts and doing minor success like we were in the in the late
Eighties and nineties a band I was in called flywheel

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Um when grunge came in I call it it was the double curse grunge and point oh eight killed
Killed the bar scene and it killed rock and roll. Yeah, and I remember
What is point oh eight mean? Oh, it just means I mean when when it's the legal drunk driving limit
Oh, I got you our people started

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Like timing that's when the driving limit became point oh eight and it's illegal
Our fans started being fewer and fewer at the clubs every week. I couldn't figure out why
Turns out they were in jail
But and so the scene was kind of going down a little bit from there and so I

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And 1993 left flywheel who was very successful San Diego band and touring band and had some albums out and did I left them?
Kind of saw the writing on the wall great friends of mine
They were family but I went back to grad school
And so I was I did my some of my master's degree at San Diego State and I did my PhD at UC Irvine
And was just doing all that stuff

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But right after I did that I couldn't tour anymore when I left after I left flywheel
But there was a local band I knew called bottom line around they've been around about a year and they didn't do any touring
They didn't leave town. They had kids they were you know this and that and and so I thought this is perfect
They needed a bass player. They asked if I could fill in for a month. Oh, yeah, that was 30 years ago
Oh, wow, and so we're still the same five members and we put out a couple albums ourselves

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But just been playing around San Diego for 30 years or so doing mostly covers and clubs
But just a great time and it is like a family
And I think you saw us for the first time as the trio and that was because early on at Reds Whites and Blues
Peter didn't really was worried about having live drums. You remember that thing and so we're like well
We'll just we'll just do it as a trio which is we started out as but we've kind of brought the five piece in since then

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I know I was bummed the tree lighting. We missed it. It was it was just fantastic
I heard it was super fun
The secret is to book gigs when there's 5,000 people out in the street. Yeah, because you know, then you look like
most popular band ever
Yeah, man, so have you done any any kind of touring or anything like that like a like around

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Outside of like San Diego or yeah the band I was in before we did we did quite a bit of moving around and mostly
West coast and things even up to Alaska and
We had regular tour things would go through Reno and Vegas and Reading and all these glamorous towns and and just really
Gotta kind of push our albums. Sometimes one night we'd be opening for a big act

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And then that night we'd be back in the biggest dive bar in the world at the biggest in staying in the band house
That way, you know, you're you spray yourself down after?
Smell like smoke. It was a great life. Back in the 90s was smoke
1988
Did you ever open for anybody big or going like that kind of tours? We did we did a lot of a lot of opening

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You know the cheap trick and mr. Mr. and Ariel Speedwagon
Oh, wow
Just we did a lot of things and we were that I'm one of the house bands at the Bacchanal
So it was great because we got to open up for a lot of
The bands that came through there as well and got to meet a lot of our heroes, which was a lot of fun
Nice. What's the what's the most like famous in your opinion?
like the most famous band you've ever like opened up or or met or played with or you know,

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It I don't know if it's the most famous but it was the most fun for me because I'm a big John weight fan
You know the babies remember the babies John weight and everything
So and and there was a band called bad English, which was a combination of the babies and journey
Okay, and they had Neil shown as the guitar player, you know, John weight was the singer, you know
And it was really really cool
and and so we got to open up for them and for some reason the show was delayed and so we got to hang out with

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Them for about an hour in the back and just just shooting the breeze with them
Oh, and it was a lot of times you meet the guys, but you don't get to hang really a lot
Yeah, we used to run into quiet, right all the time
We and we open for them a lot in Reno and Vegas and they were great guys, too
We go out to the casinos afterwards and do some quite right. Yeah, man. That's really good guys. Yeah
Oh, yeah, man. All right

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So if there was a any musician in the world anybody in the world that you live or dead doesn't matter who you would like
To have a beer with oh
Man, who would that who would that who would that be? Wow, this is on the spot. Okay. Yeah. Yeah totally on spot Steven
Yeah, Steven Tyler. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. My hero man. Yeah, still he's still alive. He's still doing it
We can make that happen. He just retired like last month because of problems with this

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's just still been amazing really
He just said he just had to shut it down because of his because of his throat
Yeah, and I'll tell you one of my one of my you can't sing like that as long as he has and not do some damage
People tell me they go. Yeah, look at them. Look at Mick Jagger still out there doing it
I'm like Mick Jagger's no disrespect people are gonna hate me for this. He's singing stone songs

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Yeah, Steven Tyler's out there at 70 whatever
Singing Aerosmith for God's sake
Man one of my favorite
Aerosmith songs was dream on that was one of the one of the best it was that was their signature. Oh, yeah

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Yeah, it was like 73 or something like that. Yeah, and still go man
Yeah, every time I won't turn it off if I'm if I'm driving and it comes on the radio dream on I'm gonna turn it up
And I won't park the car and get out until it's over

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It is a great song one of my favorite songs
Like when I when I hear his voice and then obviously, you know, it's Steven Tyler looks like it doesn't
Match it's so wild Steven Tyler. Yeah, but Steven Tyler, you know, what's funny though about Steven Tyler and the Rolling Stones

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Without key. Fuck. What's his name? Rolling Stones Keith Richards? No the other guy Mick Jagger Mick Jagger
They kind of look alike. They kind of got like the big mouth and the big lips, you know, like yeah
Yeah, when I was a kid, I thought they were the same person like I didn't know like who I didn't know
I was a little kid. I was like, oh, that's the same wait. No, that's not the same guy. It sounds different. I
Used to get told back in the long hair days that I looked a lot like Steven Tyler

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It was kind of funny. You know how you doing your um, so yeah
We have one of you have one of your posters now up in the studio. Yeah, get there
So we're looking we're looking at this poster acid wash denim and a perm
I'm just saying has anybody else brought in a full-size poster of themselves
That's just my own yeah, I know

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Before you leave tonight
You're gonna definitely have to sign that value and my guitar as well. I'm gonna have to have you sign that before
Going next week cuz he'd black out a tooth or something
So Travis McKenzie you guys are you guys are good friends he was on the show and then we had a Mike Weiland on the show

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Yeah, and he was good friends with him also. I'm good friends with it was good
So you guys play ash in the Mondays, right? Yeah, and and so it's you T Mac
Mike Avila and Ashley, right?
That's just you four. All right. So what brought that on man? Like how was that?
Would you guys all just say hey, let's let's start this

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So I know Travis told you our kind of meet cute story about that poster
Actually about how Travis and I were playing a trivia night, you know
And and it was the 80s trivia night and I'd brought that in
And put it on the wall people were supposed to bring in like, you know 80 stuff, you know, and he said, oh, you know
That's you I used to come watch your band
And so we were already playing on the same trivia team who doesn't realize it

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so when you know, Travis and I started just doing just the abbreviated version here Travis and I started doing some of the
some of the Reds theme nights as a duo and
Then as those kind of got a little bigger
We would start then ash asked asked us to you know
Can you play behind a couple of my songs and things and we started playing?
Behind ash and some other people there and after a little while what happens is I know you've had Ashley

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You know on here and you guys all know Ashley
Yep, Ash and Orton if you stand too close to Ashley you get sucked into the vortex
I didn't even know what hit me things will happen. She is a machine
The woman is a livable energy machine and she just was like we're banned now
It's like, you know, okay do this and and it hasn't looked back ever since but

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So the Mondays came from you guys playing on Mondays at Reds, Whites and Brews
Because you guys rolled the house band on Mondays. Yeah, and I played I've jammed with you guys before we have a blast
Yeah, we really do every time and you guys kill it long as you not expect quality
It's Monday man. Nobody gives a shit. Hello the good time
I think it's pretty quality from nobody does shit. It's all good

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I like jamming with you guys because it's just like we'll just pull it out and like whatever let's say you fuck it up
It's all good. Yeah, and I nobody cares like let's keep going
I heard Travis talking a lot about your tendency to say it's just DEG. Yeah, it's a DA DA
Oh, I forgot to tell you there's a B in it's not like oh, yeah
And then he puts a capo up on the fourth fret or something
I was told there'd be no math. I know yeah

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Now I'm doing math
All right, man, so this is the Travis Billy Ross outlaw country show so we're gonna listen to some music
What would you like to hear country outlaw? Like what do you think like outlaw? What's your okay?
What's your idea of outlaw country? I know you guys ask King and Queen. Oh, okay. Yeah most people let's do it

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Okay, and I think that's the fun part
I was embarrassed to say I had to think hard because I am NOT a country guy
Oh, you know Ramona kind of broke me into that and
So I don't know a lot of the history of a lot of the country except the things that just anybody would know
But even through my rock days, I had a weakness for Johnny Cash Johnny Cash. Love me some Johnny Cash. That's acceptable

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That's acceptable. So what would be what would be one of the ones you'd like to see?
Listen to I do I do like Ring of Fire Ring of Fire. Yeah, that's good. You know, that was actually written by sweet curbs June Carter
June Carter. Yeah, that was written by June Carter. Okay, then that'll be my queen. There you go. Okay

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Love
I
Love
I
Love is a burning thing
And it makes a fiery ring

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Bound by wild desire
I fell into a ring of fire
I fell into a burning ring of fire. I went down down down and the flames went higher
And it burns burns burns
And it burns burns burns the ring of fire the ring of fire

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I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down down down and the flames went higher and it burns burns burns
the ring of fire
the ring of fire
The taste of love is sweet

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When hearts like ours meet I
I fell for you like a child
Oh
But the fire went wild

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the ring of fire
The ring of fire

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the ring of fire
the ring of fire
And it burned burns burns
the ring of fire
The ring of fire, the ring of fire, the ring of fire, the ring of fire.
The ring of fire.

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You storm me once, so she's a friend of mine.
Take it easy, take it easy.
Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.
Light it up while you still can.
Don't even try to understand.

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Just find a place to make your stand.
and take it easy
Well I'm standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona
in such a fine sight to see
It's a girl, my lord, in a flatbed Ford

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slowing down to take a look at me
Come on baby, don't say baby
I gotta know if your sweet love is gonna save me
We may lose and we may win

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but we will never be here again
So open up, I'm climbing in
So take it easy

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Well I've been running down the road
trying to loosen my load
got a world of trouble on my mind
Looking for a lover who won't blow my cover
She's so hard to find
Take it easy

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Don't let the sound of your own wheels
make you crazy
Come on baby, don't say baby
I gotta know if your sweet love is gonna save me

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Oh we gotta take it easy
We oughta take it easy

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Rockin' around the Christmas tree
at the Christmas party hop
Mistletoe home where you can't see
every couple tries to stop
let the Christmas spirit break

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Later we'll have some pumpkin pie
and we'll do some caroling
You will get a sentimental feeling
when you hear voices singing
Let's be jolly, let's cause
with vows of party

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have a happy holiday
Everyone dancing merrily
in the new old fashion way

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You will get a sentimental feeling
when you hear voices singing
Let's be jolly, let's cause
with vows of party
have a happy holiday

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Everyone dancing merrily
in the new old fashion way
Boom, boom, boom, we're back.
Welcome back to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show.
We're hanging out with my good friend Steve Talley.

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He's a musician here in Ramona.
Pretty big one.
How did that happen?
He's a big musician in Ramona.
Don't try to figure out how I got to be a musician.
He's kind of a big deal.
He's a little bit of a big deal.
He's a big deal.
He does a lot of the, you're the house,
part of the house band that plays every Monday
for the stuff at Red Watson Brews,

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the Dealers Choice.
So it's been like a year now.
A little over.
Two years.
I was starting to keep a sheet of the different themes.
Oh, since they've been doing it this way.
And we are on like 70-some themes.
Really?
Yeah, so it's been over a year.
That's got to be good as a musician
from the standpoint of every week someone's asking you
to learn a song you don't know.
So your Rolodex of songs I'm sure has grown exponentially.

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The problem is they don't store.
You have them written down somewhere.
You play them.
I got them on the, I was one of those non-iPad guys
before this came along.
And now I'm just like, oh my gosh, you know,
15 new songs and you're just,
and people always give me a hard time
because I just squint at the damn thing the whole time.
My wife's like, where are your reading glasses?
I'm not wearing my reading glasses on stage.

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I'm not wearing, I don't want to look like a nerd.
He just pinched a Zoom.
Pinched a Zoom.
Or you just do what my dad does.
I put the font so it's like four letters
on the screen at a time.
And you got to like do this as you're reading it.
I think you're changing the page like on everything.
Yeah, you're pointing or scrolling up every two seconds.
No, it's, so you really, you get these songs

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and you kind of, you listen to them once.
You go through them with the chords.
Thank God, you know, back in our day,
we had to listen to it with pick up the goddamn needle.
Yeah.
On the record.
And move it back.
Move it back to hear what they were doing.
And then cassettes came along and you know, changed the world.
Rewind.
And then you could rewind.
And you couldn't just go chords, lyrics, Google, tell me.

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No, I know.
For this song.
And it's just awesome.
And so, you know, I just paste them into Songbook Pro
and I listened to the song a couple of times
and they get what they get.
But it's really fun because you're playing stuff
you'd never choose or play in a million years.
Yeah.
And I was going to say, dude,
it's got to make you feel like a way better musician.
Like just in the past, like just from doing that.

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Your ear develops like crazy.
I've been doing this a long time and I didn't think, you know,
really could develop more, but it does.
It's an exercise.
Yeah.
Having to do these songs on minimal, no practice.
Yeah.
And minimal listening.
And your ear kind of develops towards, you know,
where those changes will be.
And it's really, really been fun.
As long as people aren't expecting perfection.

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Oh, yeah.
And I think that's the best musicians are.
They understand it.
They're very grateful for the backing.
Yeah.
Dude, you played with me.
Many times.
Many times.
And it's like, we don't rehearse.
We don't practice.
We don't do anything together.
We just do it on the stage.
Here we go.
I kind of try to peek around and see where your hands are.
Sometimes I know.

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And I'm kind of a I'm kind of a fucked up musician
because I don't use an iPad either.
And I try to just go off of memory.
I'm getting older and I'm I'm no, I won't use it.
Like, I can't do it.
Like, I don't know why.
But I have my good friend Clarence out there that he's suffers from CRS.
And I suffer from the same thing.
Can't remember shit.

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For a minute, I thought you weren't going to be able to remember.
He's like, I can't remember what CRS means.
What does it mean?
Can't remember shit.
No, like learning a new song for me,
it takes me a while.
Like I said, I don't I can't do the tablet and I can't do like paper.
I just have to just know it or remember it and do it like that.

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And yeah, dude, I think it's friggin awesome what you guys do.
Like every week you guys are learning like 10, 15 songs on my own.
Learning.
We use that term.
Yeah.
When we say learning, like, do you have to take do you take time out prior to that night
and kind of go through it or do you literally just go on stage and go, I'm so good.
I can just like let it rip and have at it.

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It's kind of a combination.
You go through the songs and some you kind of know you've heard them before.
It's hardest with the ones you've never heard before and have a little more complex arrangements.
But a lot you're like, all I really need, I know the changes is the chords.
You know, yeah.
And so for those, I'll just get the chords on, you know, download the chords and lyrics
and just listen to a verse and a chorus and I'm good to go.
But then there's some other ones that you even the ones you've heard and go,

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I never realized this was so damn complex.
A 900 chord fucking song.
Who writes a change like that?
I'll never remember that.
I make little notes to myself in there.
It's going to be weird right here.
You know, I literally write things like, look for weird change.
This is where it gets weird.
But that works because then your brain goes, oh, yeah.

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Oh, man.
That's why. But it has.
It's kind of it's been a neat new stage and a musical career that I thought was kind of just,
you know, where it is, is where it is after many, many years.
And so it's like a left turn Clyde, you know.
Yeah. Yeah.
So what's your what's your focus, man?
What's your plan? Like with the music stuff, do you want to be do you want to take it all the way to the top or and be fucking Aerosmith?

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Or do you want to what's the what's the scoop?
Well, the take it to the top.
I left in 1993 when we did have a record deal fall through.
And, you know, again, it was grunge.
But that's what I blame it.
Nirvana kind of grunge.
But so now it was kind of freeing at that time when I was doing it for I was doing it for a living back then, you know, and I don't now.

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So it takes a lot of pressure off and you have a lot of fun.
So I'm just enjoying the ride here.
Definitely not caring about certainly not the money or or, you know, making it, you know, everybody called it because making it's different than it used to be back in back in the old days, you know, and what the streams are.
And I don't even know what making it is now, you know.
Yeah, yeah, and I think just having fun and doing it because you love to do it.

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That's why I do.
Yeah.
And the original music back.
It is a great time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The whole famous thing in the back.
I was when I was 20 is, you know, I was like, oh, yeah, I want to be a rock star.
It's like, all right.
I just like to play music now.
It's freeing.
Just let me play music and I'll be happy.
I'll be smiling the whole time.

(29:53):
Yep.
As I usually.
I think that's one of the things that Ramona scenes kind of freed me on.
Yeah.
OK, I do.
Thank you.
Awesome.
All right, sweet curbs.
Do you have any any Critter Corner stories that you want to share with or hair product
stuff?
I do.
What do you got?
Do you?
Can we go over?
Do you have a go?
All right.

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Boom, boom, sweet curbs with a twinkle in her eye.
Dance from the fields where clovers lie.
Her smile's a charm.
You cannot deny.
You look up every crater passing by.
She twirls and she leaps in the golden sun.
She twirls and leaps.
That is such a visual.
I can't wait until we.
I have never twirled or leaped in my life.

(30:35):
I can't wait until we start.
We're going to do the video here pretty soon.
I got kicked out of ballet at five for not being graceful enough.
We're making a sweet curbs Critter Corner video.
It's going to be on.
It's going to be on.
It's going to be on PBS Sunday mornings.
It's going to be on Fox 5.
Me and the chicken pen.
So this is my Critter Corner.

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I have two new crow friends.
They're at my house every morning.
Crow? Did you say crow?
Crow, black crows.
They sit and they don't let me get close to them, but they don't fly away now.
They just kind of skip away because they know I go to feed the chickens and I leave little trails of chicken feed.
And the crows eat it and now they hang out.
And your buddies.
Yeah, they're cool.
They're smart.
They're smart, those things.
That's so funny, sweet curbs, because at my work, my office, we have two crow friends also that we actually me and the guy I work with, GURBS.

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Love you, man.
We have two pet crows that we have come over and hang in the trees and we've started feeding them.
This has been like two years we've been feeding these things.
We'll put a bowl of like dog food or whatever or like lunch or whatever, whatever we don't eat.
We'll just we'll put it out there and they'll fly in the trees and they'll come down.
They'll eat the food and then fly away.

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But they've been coming for quite a while.
So sweet curbs, keep that up because you'll have friend.
They'll start.
They'll start bringing you trinkets.
Yeah.
Have you ever heard about that?
Yeah.
So these crows will be friend people and they'll go out and find shiny things, shiny things, and they'll come bring you shiny things.
Stay tuned for the next installment of.
Yes.
Kirby got a trinket from a crow.
Yeah.

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They have to work that into a theme song.
I know.
That's the next one.
All right.
That's going to be the next theme song.
I'm going to play a Stephen A.I. song while he's here.
While he's here?
There it is right here.
Watch, watch.
Just like that.
Here's how it works.
Oh.
All right.
Yes.
Damn, I wish I'd written this.
Isn't this wild though?

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I'm going to play a song that sounds like a real song.
Because he just plugged in keywords, a genre of music, and beep bop boop, you have a whole song about yourself.
It sounds like a real song.
Dude, that song reminded me.
I can see that picture right there.
I didn't totally see it right there.
We got a post-ed picture, dude.
Oh, Cassie took a picture.

(33:11):
I'm speechless.
I know.
Just like that, you had your own song.
See that?
I want to see it.
Hold on, what's this one here?
What is this?
Which one's this one?
Oh, I wrote this one.
I figured you did.
Oh, this is Allie Original.
This is also me on harmonica.
What?
You did the harmonica?
Yeah.

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Damn.
It sounds like poison or like.
Look at the poster.
Who's the vocalist?
A guy named Kevin Panizza.
Incredible range.
This was a very successful album.
It was the opening track.
Nice, dude.
This was, of course, the first Mellow 30 Seconds.

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You did Big Hair Bands.
Yeah.
Sensitivity.
They all did the little ballad up in the front.
Yeah.
I'll pop in a little bit.
Hell yeah, dude.
This is you.
Holy shit, man.

(34:17):
When are you going to have a flywheel reunion?
You should bring them all back for a show.
Yeah, we've thought about that before.
Our drummer's in Ohio now and our singer's in Florida.
Oh, it's just a plane ticket.
So the guitar player from the band Danny Donnelly, who I actually was in my first bandwidth when
we were 15, his mom used to drive us to the gigs.
Oh my God.
He's an unbelievable talent.

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Well, some of the songs on that album you'd hear and they're just just incredible.
And I'm playing in a band with him again.
We're doing a Van Halen tribute band together.
That's killer.
Back when back in the day, he was like, do eruption note for note at 16 years old.
So we put together something for fun that we're going to be bringing out in the in the
next year and probably February or so.

(35:01):
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm excited.
And it's the early years.
It's all the David Lee Roth years.
OK, I love me some Sammy, but it's like those classic songs from that first bit, you know,
the little bit.
Yeah.
So we're doing that.
We have some great players with us.
Now, is this something you guys are going to do on an ongoing basis or is this kind
of a show like a showcase?
It's a tribute thing.
So what will be, you know, it'll only be something we do like as a big show with other tribute

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ones, maybe every couple of every.
Oh, that'll be so rad.
What is the name of your band?
Light them up, light them up, light them up.
Dude, you said you're at 15.
When did you start playing guitar?
You know, I had my first lessons when I was about 10.
OK.
And but then, you know, kind of put it down like a lot of people did.
And then when when I was a junior in high school, I started playing.

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My friend of mine started playing guitar and I was he'd come back from his lessons and
I would start to and I teach me what he learned.
And so I really got into it.
And then about after about six months of me really enjoying the guitar, I found out that
there's no bass players around.
So everybody's like, well, can you you know, we have a base of those of you come over and
play some bass, you know, for our jam in the garage.

(36:11):
And so then that happened.
They just took off.
So all of a sudden, that's how I met Danny in our first band, Dreamer, it was called.
And and from there, you know, it was like the bass player ride, you know, along there.
So luckily, I had the groundings in guitar for writing and things like that.
But from then on, I was my main job was bass player.
Nice. And that's what you primarily do now is the bass playing.

(36:32):
It is, even though with it's kind of funny the way the Ramona thing started.
I wasn't really playing any music around here.
And so I got back into my acoustic solo thing and started playing out at Three Hills at the
Song Circle. I remember seeing that's where I met you.
One of the first times I like there's the guy from Dirty Confetti, because I'd seen you guys.
And so I was doing some of those and some other things, even some of the smoking cannon, you

(36:58):
know, Friday nights and some things. And and I was doing that.
That's when I met Travis and said, hey, can you play back up on me?
I wasn't playing bass at the time we were doing like acoustic duo stuff.
But then again, things blew up and grew.
And then the bass started working its way back in.
And there's only a few bass players around.
Yeah. So I still try to do the guitar where I can.
The frickin' Three Hills. That's where I like that's the first time I think I met you.
Like, that's right.

(37:20):
You just jogged that memory, man.
The Three Hills to me was I think kind of an underrated instrumental piece of this Ramona
scene coming together because it was that Song Circle coming together.
A lot of the musicians met each other, you know, Doug Walker and the whole group.
That's where I met Doug Walker and all of them.
And and it started that kind of started it back up.
And then it was the same time that was Smokin' Cannon was doing some of theirs back up.

(37:44):
And everybody was really kind of it came to get it all of a sudden.
It was going in different pockets and just came together.
We were playing at the bar down at the end of the Main Street there for a couple of years before
before I went to that that Three Hills.
I don't even know how or why we got I ended up going to that thing.
What was this? I invited or something.

(38:05):
And I was like, oh, let's go. So me and Rob went.
I brought my guitar and I didn't even plan on playing.
And I was like, I was going to go check it out.
Jump into something. I don't know what I'm getting into.
And then I was like, oh, this seems pretty cool.
So I sat in the circle and then you were there and Daniel Hughes was there.
Patrick, the guy with the thumb.
Oh, yeah. And he makes them.

(38:27):
Right. Yeah. That's amazing.
I met him the first time on my phone. I thought that was so amazing.
And then there was a guy that was playing the mandolin.
I can't remember his name because his name.
Oh, it's going to come to me.
But he was sitting right beside me and Kevin.
Kevin. That's what it was. Yep. So then.
So yeah, he was so wild that he said this was probably three or four years ago.
He was sitting right beside me and you're like, oh, Kevin.

(38:50):
Oh, yeah. You remember. Yeah.
Yeah. He's still around. Kevin still comes. Yeah.
So I was like, I'm just going to jam.
And I told him I was sitting right beside me and you know me, dude.
I'm like, dude, jam with me.
Like play with me. I don't really like.
Let's just do it together. He's like, all right, what are you doing?
I was like, I'm going to do I think I did.
What I do some beach like Shelton.

(39:12):
Yeah, I was like, let's do that.
And then so I told him it's like three chords, like CFG, you know, that's what it was.
You had everybody jamming with you. I remember that.
That was so much fun. It was very typical.
It was like everybody. OK, song, song, song.
Everybody ends up everybody.

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What are you playing a violin? Play it.
It's your gift. I'm telling you. It's your gift.
Oh, man. Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, that was God, man.
Do they still do that three else? They do.
It's it only they do it just kind of spring through through fall.
And so it's the third the third Friday in every month, but it doesn't start till May.

(39:56):
I don't think. OK, but they're really, really fun.
Different eight or nine musicians at a time when it warms up a little bit.
That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, man.
It's a good time. Good time. All right.
So growing up, where did you originally lots of things, lots of places originally when you were reborn?
We say there's a Navy. So I was born in Virginia, Virginia.
Yeah, but most of my years were at Connecticut, Hawaii, Virginia, California, Hawaii, Hawaii.

(40:22):
We got a soft man. Yeah, I was considering I was in first grade.
Not going to bed.
Still a great place. Surfing the big waves, man.
I've never been to Hawaii. You know, I've been to Hawaii.
No, really? No, I've been there once.
Nineteen ninety one. I was like, I don't know.

(40:44):
You want a family vacation? Yeah. Family. Mom, dad, two sisters went to Waikiki Beach.
I remember that. I remember snorkeling down in the in that beach.
That was fun. I was a kid. I swim all day.
You know, one of my favorite Christmas songs is Melikulika Makai.
You said Hawaii and it reminded me.
So growing up, I could never get the words for that.

(41:07):
And for some reason, the way I remembered it was like a lot of salami.
It kind of turned into this family joke. Play the like a lot of salami.
That song's not allowed to be played on public radio, son.
How I can think about is the scene in Christmas Vacation.
Yeah, me too. With the girl at the pool. We just watched that.

(41:32):
What other songs like there are songs that you don't know the titles to, but you have to just kind of like
there's a song that Cassie, whenever I say I want to hear the laundry song, she knows exactly what song.
Sailed away on a rowboat to find you, but she said you had to get your laundry clean.
Didn't want no one to hold you. What does that mean? She said. Yeah.
Break my pride. Yeah. Anybody got to slow me down.

(41:56):
Yeah, but as a kid, all I remembered is he was upset because the lady had to do her laundry.
So it's the laundry song. Yeah.
Yeah. Break my stride. That's funny. Man, I had any songs like that when I was growing up.
Yeah. Don't take my breath away. Don't take my breath away.

(42:19):
It was on Top Gun. My little sister used to say, don't take my brother away.
All right. We had you know what we got to do real quick.
We got to do a shout out to our sponsors. Can I say it? Yeah.
Do you want to do it? Victoria Ramona Family Naturals.
Oh, wrong one. Anytime we say Victoria's name. There it is.

(42:44):
He gets a chime. I wanted to do that at least once.
Victoria from Ramona Family Naturals. I feel so clean after it.
I know. It feels so pure. No, we want to thank Ramona Family Naturals for sponsoring the show.
As everybody knows, anybody that lives in Ramona knows that Dirty Confetti plays there every Thursday.

(43:09):
And she does have music every Sunday, most of the Sundays, with a little brunch.
And they do mimosas. We had a breakfast burrito the other day. It was freaking amazing.
It was a chorizo burrito. It was pretty good.
Miranda Ramos was playing there last Sunday. A couple of Sundays ago actually, not last Sunday.

(43:32):
But they have great stuff, great food. They have a coffee bar. You can get a mocha latte or whatever you want to call it.
Do you know why they call it a latte? Not at Ramona Family Naturals. It doesn't cost a latte.
I like how we came back here. Can't use that joke. It doesn't cost. But it really doesn't.

(43:54):
But thank you, Victoria Bradley. We love you. We'll see you next Thursday because we're there every Thursday.
Steve Talley, you've played there a couple of times.
We have. We enjoyed it so much. That is the most unique setting. People kicking back on that patio.
It's just so casual and interactive with the crowd. It's great.

(44:15):
Good food, good people. Drinking Victoria's beer.
Victoria's beer. Oh, we got two on that one.
We did. Oh, I like that. We're all Victoria. Victoria. Victoria.
She just sat up in bed. She's like, oh my God, I love you guys.

(44:37):
She's like, I can hear it. Oh, man. Heck yeah. Thank you, Ramona Family Naturals, for sponsoring our show.
We love you. We do. Very much so. Absolutely.

(45:14):
We love you. We love you.

(45:44):
Right there on some beach. Somewhere.
I circled the parking lot trying to find a spot just big enough I could park my old truck.
A man with a big cigar was getting into his car. I stopped and I waited for him to back up.

(46:11):
From out of nowhere a Mercedes Benz came cruising up and whipped right in some beach.
Somewhere.
There's nowhere to go when you got all day to get there.

(46:36):
There's cold margaritas and hot senioritas smiling with long dark hair on some beach.
Somewhere.
I said in that waiting room it seemed like all afternoon the nurse finally said, Doc's ready for you.

(47:01):
You're not gonna feel a thing. We'll give you some overcome. That tooth will be fine in a minute or two.
He stuck that needle down deep in my gun and he started drilling before I was numb.
Some beach.
Somewhere.

(47:25):
There's a beautiful sunset burning up the atmosphere.
There's music and dancing and lovers romancing the salty evening air on some beach.

(47:46):
Somewhere.
On some beach.
Somewhere.

(48:16):
I said when I hear that song I see you standing there on that lawn. Disgust shades, store-bought tan, flip flops and cut off jeans.
Somewhere between that set and the sun. I'm on fire, I'm born to run. You looked at me and I was done, but we were just getting started.
I was singing to you and you were singing to me. I was so alive, never been more free. Fire up my daddy's lighter and we sang.

(48:44):
They forced us out and took the long way to your house
I can still hear the sound of you saying don't go
When I think about you, I think about Seventeen
I think about my old dream, I think about the stars in the sky
Funny how a melody sounds like a memory

(49:07):
Like a soundtrack to a true last Saturday night
Springsteen
I bumped into you by a happenstance, you probably wouldn't even know who I am

(49:29):
But if I whispered your name I bet I'd still be as far
Back when I was gasoline and this old tattoo had brand new ink
And we didn't care what your mom would think about your name on my arm
Baby is it spring or is it some of the guitar sound or the beat of that drummer
You hear sometimes late at night on your radio

(49:52):
Even though you're a million miles away when you hit a pawn in a USA
You re-lived those glory days so long ago
When you think about me, do you think about Seventeen
Do you think about my old dream, think about the stars in the sky

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Like a soundtrack to a true last Saturday night
Springsteen
Springsteen
Woah, woah, woah

(50:53):
Like a soundtrack to a Judas Saturday night
Springsteen

(51:15):
Springsteen
Oh, Springsteen
Springsteen

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Oh

(52:21):
Oh
Yeah, I'm a turner
I turn pages all the time

(52:43):
Don't like where I'm at 34 was bad. So I just turned 35
Yeah, I'm a keeper
I keep digging down for the deep
Like the record time playing they might keep you waiting, but you know, I'm gonna play them for keys
And if the house just keeps on winning

(53:03):
I got a wild card up my sleeve
And if love keeps giving me lemons, I just mix them in my drink
And if the whole wide world starts singing
And all the stars go dark I keep a light on in my soul
I keep a bluebird in my heart

(53:35):
Well, I'm a giver
Yeah, and I'm still giving him hell
Forgiven's pretty hard. So I made an art out of forgetting them will
Yeah, I'm a runner
I can turn 20 cents into a 10
And if I get confused and I start to do that Ramadan till it all makes sense

(53:59):
And if the house just keeps on winning, I got a wild card up my sleeve
And if love keeps giving me lemons, I just mix them in my drink
And all the stars go dark
I keep a light on in my soul and keep a bluebird in my heart

(54:46):
And if the house just keeps on winning, I got a wild card up my sleeve
And if love starts giving me lemons, I just mix them in my drink
And all the stars go dark
I keep a light on in my soul and keep a bluebird in my heart

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I keep a bluebird in my heart I keep a light on in my soul I keep a bluebird in my heart
I keep a bluebird in my heart And a bluebird sings

(55:47):
I keep a bluebird in my heart I keep a bluebird in my heart

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And have the best wine in Ramona

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Eric does it make you want to pee?
Eric doesn't like the sound of something pouring
Makes me want to throw up
Disgusting
How do you live your daily life?
Like how do you drink things?
How do you pour stuff?
He's just like looking away like
No, you pour it on the side of the glass
You just can't, you know
Oh, you can't plug it
I got you, I got you
You know, I'm not the only one
You know, you'll never see a soda commercial do that

(58:07):
Remember it used to be popular in the 70s, that crack and that pouring sound
There were so many people who don't like that sound
They stopped doing it
There you go
Yeah
The beer, they did a lot of the beer commercials with that too
All the beer, yeah, you'd have the pouring sound
I didn't notice till now, you're right
You don't hear that as much anymore
No, right
Gross
All right, so Tally, so we've got this thing going on

(58:30):
It's going to be in the fall of 2025
We're calling it the Iron Butt Ride
Yeah
And it's actually, it's an actual thing
It's a motorcycle ride for what is it? 1500 miles
Is it 1500?
We're going from Ramona to Las Vegas
Ramona, Las Vegas
To San Antonio, Texas
And you got to get there in under 24 hours
Under 24 hours
It's a lot of riding

(58:51):
Can I follow you on my triathlon bike?
I would love to see that
I've ridden for years and years
I just don't have a street bike right now, a motorcycle
I have seven
You've got a year to work on it
You've got almost a year
I do
Hey, dude, I have
I'm sorry, Chris
I have two Harleys, dude
You can borrow one of mine
I've ridden for years, so yeah, there's no learning curve on that

(59:11):
That'd be good
Yeah, dude
So yeah, that's going to be a whole event
It's going to be, we're going to video
We're going to document it
Scratching the chin
And the whole thing
And so that's going to be in the fall of next year, 2025
Sounds great
So if you're down for that, let's get you on board
I do have an iron butt from riding those bicycles for 100 miles
I would imagine I've seen those rides
I don't know how that works

(59:32):
But there's no nerves
There's no nerves
Are we going to have a thing on the website or somewhere eventually
Where people can sign up as it gets closer?
So yes, the new TBR website will be launching here
Probably in the next couple of weeks
And it'll have all of the information that you could want
Registration, pre-registration, and all that other good stuff
Is all going to be on there

(59:52):
So yeah, we'll announce when the website launches
Yeah, just make sure you're ready for some fun
And freaking make it happen, man
We're going to get to San Antonio like on a Friday night
And then we're just going to party
And we'll arrange for your bikes to be transported back
So that's part of it
I was going to ask about getting back
You don't have to ride them back
No, we can take an airplane back
Or ride the van back or whatever

(01:00:13):
Yeah, but the bikes will be transported back
Unless you want to do a crazy
Unless you can, yeah
Unless you want to do a double iron butt
That would be like a titanium ass
There's got to be an extra little award for that
The guys that come back
Oh, the guys that run back
Oh man, now you're setting up a challenge, Steve Talley
That is the titanium butt

(01:00:33):
Yeah, right
Now Steve was mentioning that we could do it as a benefit too
Yeah, we could do like a charity
Oh, that's a cool fundraiser
Hammerite Foundation
The Hammerite Foundation
Preparation Age will sponsor us
I was going to say, yeah, we need a sponsorship by Preparation Age

(01:00:56):
What's in this stuff?
Oh yeah, this is some good whiskey, senior
I'm not ready to have you top me off again
This is Gentleman Jack, Steve Talley
I hope you're enjoying it, man
I do
Also, we've got our 50th episode is going to be coming up on April 13th
And we are actually going to do that one
We're doing it live
Fuck it, we'll do it live
We're going to do it completely live

(01:01:17):
You got to beat the seven second delay there
We could say the F word
We could say the gall darn word
No, anyway, so that's going to happen at the Julian station
In Julian
And we're going to go live sometime around midday
And we're going to have
We're going to try to have as many guesses
It's not in Julian, it's in Wynola

(01:01:38):
It's in Wynola, but it's called the Julian station
So people know
Yeah, so Albert Lee is going to be there
And he's going to
Albert Gary Lewis
Albert Lee
We were talking about Brenda Lee
Albert Gary Lewis
Yeah, sorry
Albert Lewis
Albert Lewis, yes, he's been on the show
I love that guy
But he's going to let us use his place up there

(01:02:02):
And we're going to set up the whole studio
And we're going to have hopefully his mini guests
You know, all the guests that have been on the show
For this past 50 episodes
And just come up and hang out and shoot the shit
That is going to be
I can tell you this
We've also lost a lot of bets in the last year
So we're going to have to figure all those out
We'll probably have to square up on all those
It's a reckoning

(01:02:23):
We're going to square up on bets
We've already gotten tattoos
I'm probably going to get my chest waxed that day
Yeah, Eric's getting his chest waxed
Well, at least it's not the other
Yeah, not the ass crack inside
Ass crack
Could be worse
His eyes just watered
Yeah, I think Julie's going to have to probably wax my chest that day
Yeah, well hopefully she'll be there

(01:02:45):
She's been on the show
So all the folks that have been on the show
For the past 50 episodes
Hopefully are going to show up and just shoot the shit
It's going to be a big party
Yeah, it's going to be a huge party
It's going to be awesome
Everybody's welcome to come
Not just the guests, everyone
All the listeners out there
All you down in San Diego
I know some of you all are listening to this
Might not know who you are, but you're down there

(01:03:05):
God bless y'all
Definitely come back up for that episode
It's going to be April 13th
And we're going to have
What a collection of characters you guys are going to have
You have them one at a time
You're going to have them all at once
Yeah, we're going to have them all at once
We're just going to come in, sit in, come here
It's going to be good
And it's going to be live
We're just going to be sitting there drinking

(01:03:26):
Beer and wine and whatever else
I'll probably bring some whiskey like I normally do
Oh, you've got stuff
You've got stuff
So I got it
I had a fan the other couple weeks ago
They brought me a couple baskets of gifts for Christmas
And one of the gifts in there was a flask
And it said dirty confetti
And then with my microphone, that microphone

(01:03:49):
The old fashioned microphone that I use
And it says dirty confetti
And then on the other side of it, it says
It shows two glasses cheersing together
Not cheersing together, cilantroing together
And then it says cilantro on the top of it
So that was cool
I want to thank you for giving us those gifts
The dirty confetti
That was awesome
That was pretty cool

(01:04:09):
Yeah, very cool
Very cool
All right
Speaking of which, I need to top off
Oh, you need some whiskey
I got you
I need a lot of vodka
I got you, bruh
I'm going to fake my glasses every day
Please, sir
May I have some more?
Sweet curbs, toss that on over to Mr. Telly here
And I will try not to put the pouring sound

(01:04:29):
Don't make the gluk gluk gluk sound
Because Eric gets creeped
I got a button for that
Perfect
We can say the F word
We just can't pour whiskey
Pour it right here
Gluk gluk gluk gluk
All right

(01:04:50):
Oh, man
So, man, playing as like a teenager
And when you were a kid playing in places
Did you ever play in bars before you were 21
That you could go into a bar
Where you had to have like escort to go in there?
I did
You know, as I was playing along
I talked about the bass player demand
You know, there's a lot
And there was actually a scene in San Diego
That called the Straight Ahead Sound

(01:05:11):
Was a place that all these bands played out
Including me and Danny
And Dreamer, you know
We were like 16 years old, 17 years old
And it was the place that, you know
The guys from Rat, you know
And Jake Lee and Teaser and all those
Those guys all cut their teeth
We were all playing there together
And so we were
It was, you know
And that's where I met Steve Langdon

(01:05:32):
Who most people
A lot of people know Steve Langdon from around town
And I was playing in a band with him
Called Bad Reputation
And it was my first time with bars
I was, I think I was 18 or 19
And I looked 12 when I was 18 or 19
Trust me
And so at the...
Steve, you look 12 now
You still look like you're 12
Thank you guys

(01:05:52):
Hey, that's not a bad problem to have
I love you, man
I mean, I appreciate it very much
When you're 22, it's not
But as you get older, that's not a bad problem
I wasn't fishing for it
But I'll take it
But, and so it was really kind of funny
Because we were playing a bar down at the beach
And all those guys, they were all like
They were old to me
They were like 25, 26, you know

(01:06:13):
And I had to sit out on a stool next to the bouncer
During the breaks
Yeah
On that, and then I'd go back in and I'd play
And then go back out
It was very...
I was one of those guys that had a mustache
As you know, in sixth grade
So there's no way I could get away with it
So, but it was really fun
You know, a lot of people do know Steve from around town
Is Steve Langdon, you know, is a recording studio

(01:06:35):
Does fantastic musicians still around
And then from that same scene
That straight ahead sound scene
All these great musicians I got to play with
You know, his name was Jake Williams at the time
But Jakey Lee turned into, you know, Ozzy Osbourne's guitar player
Was in a band with him for a while, quite a while
And just a great guy
I've got some great Jake stories
Because, you know, he was, you know, with Ozzy Osbourne

(01:06:57):
And, you know, later on Badlands
Just incredible guitar player
One of the best in the world still to this day
And as a matter of fact, he recently was shot
I don't know if you saw the thing outside of it
Oh my gosh
Yeah, in the middle of the night
This is a random shooting, you know
Him and his dog at like three in the morning
While he was walking his dog
He lives out there
He's doing fine
Okay, good, good

(01:07:17):
But it was funny because Jake was one of, you know
You have long hair and the image is just incredible
The most teetotaling guy you've ever met in your life
Again, his mom was full Japanese
Didn't speak hardly in English
I'd go down and pick him up for practices
And I learned more about music during those car rides
Because he'd bring little cassette tapes
On his favorite guitar players at the time
Who I didn't always agree with, you know

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Because they weren't always heavy rock and roll
And learned so much playing with Jake
For just even that short time that we played together
And then when he moved up to LA and got, you know
Into the Ozzy Osbourne opportunity
It was incredible
And then a couple of times I saw him
I haven't seen him for many years
After that though he had just had some great Ozzy stories
So their first time when they were on the road

(01:07:59):
That he was the new guy
And there was this time when Ozzy was partying a lot
And he was getting really drunk
Well, the new guy they were hazing a little bit on things
He had to lock himself in his hotel room
Because Ozzy wanted to shave his head that night
While he was sleeping
Yes, it was like it was one of those crazy things
He said he slept with a bat in his room
And didn't get hardly any sleep for the first time

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That's terrible
He was the new guy
This was, you know
Before he'd really established all this stuff
But it was amazing to hear from your friends
That have broken through on that
And another Patrick Henry guy that I played in a few bands with
That's still a good friend of mine, Craig Goldie
That played with Jafria
They had a few hits
Oh, yeah
In the 90s and then in the 80s

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And then also after that
He was the guitar player for Ronnie James Dio
And so I still talk to Craig every now and then
And he also, you know
Had some incredible success
And some great road stories and things too on things
And I still actually got to play with him at Ramona Mainstage
A few years back when we did a little reunion thing
Right
So I had to play with some great guitar players

(01:09:02):
In the scene that came out of Straight Ahead Sound
Also, you know, the guys at the time
It was called Mickey Rat
And then there was a band called Aircraft
And those two bands combined went to LA
And picked up some LA guys and they became Rat
So the most interesting story with the one that my wife loves is that
My girlfriend, Steve Piercy was one of the ones in Mickey Rat
He was the lead singer at the time
Steve Piercy from Rat, of course

(01:09:23):
And my wife, not my wife, my girlfriend
Sorry, Chris
My girlfriend, and I was still a senior in high school
And his girlfriend were best friends
And I knew him through the scene and everything too
So we had to go to the senior prom
With our two girlfriends together
And so picture Steve Piercy going to a senior prom
He was already, trust me, full-blown Steve Piercy at the time

(01:09:44):
So I show up in my probably powder blue tux
This was 1979
Think dumb and dumber tuxes
And Steve comes, we go to pick him up with the limo, right?
Steve comes out with black spandex, full high boots, tails, things like that
And I thought to myself, fuck, I'm never going to be a rock star

(01:10:04):
That's how you be a rock star right there
This was before he was famous, by the way
He was just in a local band like I was
But he already had that
He already had that, I'm famous, people just don't know it yet thing to him
And then they moved up there the next year and just went bam, you know
And hit it big
That's funny
But we used to have all the after parties at my house at the time after that
And I remember Rob Crosby from Aircraft at the time

(01:10:26):
And later, you know, Rat and his girlfriend, Tawny Contain
Fighting and getting the police called out in front of my house, you know
Things like that
Oh, that is funny
It was a good, good scene back then, it really was
My neighbors didn't think so
Tawny Contain sure made a lot of musicians upset
She did
Yeah, yeah, they were a volatile couple
But it was, who knew that they were all going to be famous
Nobody knew
They were just Steven Tawny

(01:10:47):
Tawny seemed to know, she found him
Yeah, yeah, so
But there was some good scenes coming from way back then
And these musicians that spawned out of that time were unbelievable in the music scene
That's wild, man
I remember the guitar player for Sabbath
Or, I don't know if it was Sabbath or it was just Ozzy

(01:11:08):
What's his name?
Zach?
Was it Zach Wilde?
Zach Wilde
Zach Wilde, yeah
Yeah, yeah
He was, he did Crazy Train
Yeah, he always played the Target guitar and everything
Yeah, it's amazing
Yeah, dude
You look at me derailing the old country outlaw radio station to the old rock and roll
That's all good
Play some Sabbath there

(01:11:28):
Oh, man
You see me sitting up my chair like
We're all music lovers
Here's the thing, man
My blood's flowing
You know, I love the outlaw country
But dude, I love Ozzy
I love Black Sabbath
I love Metallica
I love metal
I don't listen to it very often
But I do, I grew up on any music I grew up with

(01:11:50):
It holds its place
It does
In my heart
Drawn back to the Ramona scene
That's one of the things that's made me realize
As I've come through full circles
I never pictured myself playing the kind of music I play in radio
And I love it
It's not just country, it's whatever
Americana, you know, the folk
We get to even back up a lot of
I played Farmtruck and Thea the band

(01:12:11):
And when they needed bass players too
And it's just been a really eye-opening thing
And so much fun
I never pictured it
And those are the best parts in life
You never pictured
That's where your journey would take you
Does a little bit of the rock and roll still boil my blood?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
You still get in there
Now, the Bottom Line Trio is your 80s cover band
Tribute band, right?
It is, it's actually Bottom Line

(01:12:32):
The only time we do the trio is when our
Keyboard player and drummer can't play out there
So it's really Bottom Line
It's a five piece that's the same five members for 30 years
I gotcha, gotcha, gotcha
So Bottom Line Trio is when you're there and just the three of you
Yeah, yeah
So it's usually Bottom Line Trio
That's what Trio is
What does Trio mean?

(01:12:52):
Is that Spanish?
I feel like that's Spanish
It parley boo francy
All right, so as a kid you played in bars before you could even get into the bar
That's freaking awesome
That's legendary
Were you able to drive like a driving car?
Oh, yeah, yeah

(01:13:13):
How old were you when you were?
I was one, you know, the kids are different now
They don't get their weight to get their licenses
I mean, I was at the DMV door with my nose pressed against it
Me too, it was your birthday
It was, yeah
I was 29
It was like your best birthday
29, she's one of them
My step kids, my wife's kids, they like waited an extra couple years
I thought are you insane?
Dude, I was 15 and a half
I lived in South Carolina

(01:13:34):
I'm like ready for my permit
So I got my permit 15 years, 9 months
And then 16 on the day
They're like, open the front doors
There's a guy out front
Yeah, yeah
My daughter was 19, I think 19, almost 20 when she got hers
And it wasn't until she got a job
And then she goes, okay, I need to ride to work on Mondays, Wednesdays
And I go
No, you need to drive

(01:13:55):
See, my only saving grace was I worked for the same company as my parents
So it wasn't like an inconvenience to take me to work
I remember my wife saying with my step son Justin
She goes, he's got to get his license
He's got to come drive us home from the bars
Right, I know, right
I need a DD at some point, son of a gun

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What was your first car?
Was it a one that you had to buy yourself?
1972 Fiat
Oh, Fiat?
Oh my gosh
And I used to get an entire base amp in the back seat
This is my first scrape of double road
I do not know how
Sparks flying
$600 and I did it working at Food Basket
You know, got the money

(01:14:39):
Food Basket, I remember
I'll add Gardeners Food Basket
Is it like a grocery store?
Yeah, it was like Vons or
I can't remember what they turned into
I think it turned into Albison's or something like that
Food Basket
I just got to stop at the Food Basket
Real quick, I'll be home in 20

(01:15:01):
Food Basket
We were actually
It was a coveted job because
You got above minimum wage because it was Union
As a box boy
And it was $375
Dang
I was kind of aging before
$375, bro, you were rolling
In your Fiat
I feel so freaking old

(01:15:25):
Rolling in the Fiat
Making it $375
The fearless Fiat
I got it painted a real shy of even to go farther back
Oh yeah, real shy
Home of the $100 paint job
Any car for $99.95
Oh man
I think that reminded you of good memories

(01:15:47):
Just being a younger man
Just like the first cars
That we ever had
What was yours? My first car?
I got it here? Oh dude, my first car was a 1973 Jeep
I've told the story before on the radio
That's too cool for a first car
So it was a 73 Jeep, I bought it myself
It was working
It was very
Metal, like medley

(01:16:09):
There was no carpet in the floor
It was a rusted floor
It was free
So I'm driving down
Aiken Augusta Highway in South Carolina
And we're cruising
And the steering wheel pops off
Good training
Nothing happened
It was fine, we made it, we lived, we made it through
But it happened

(01:16:31):
And I was like, holy shit, I'm driving
And all of a sudden the steering wheel is going
I'm not doing anything
I'm holding the steering wheel
In my hand
It's right out of planes, trains and automobiles
That's why I don't want to drive
That really happened
And if
If my friend Scott Deal
Ever listens to this podcast

(01:16:53):
Or this show
He'll listen to it and he'll laugh his ass off
Because he was sitting right beside me when it happened
See, that was the beauty of those first cars
That we all had, right? I mean you never knew
To roll down my window
You hit your elbow against it and it went
And then you had to when you got home
You had to put it back up and put a shim in it
Those were the cars
Oh, it was awesome

(01:17:15):
Only you could operate your car
Yeah
See that keyhole? It doesn't work
You got to reach under the dash
You got to plug these two wires together real quick
For two seconds, let it start
And then unplug it, otherwise it'll short out
And blow all the fuses
You always felt bad
When you sold your car to somebody, you're like explaining all this shit
After they paid you

(01:17:37):
Okay
Something I didn't tell you, if you're going to back up
You know, it's like
You have to sell the car with a whole instruction manual
So if you do this
This is what's going to happen, the blinker is going to go on
Twice and then it's going to blow
The fuse out and the fuse is this one
Under here, it's the 15 amp
I did have to actually lean out the window

(01:17:59):
And do this for a windshield wiper
Why'd you wind it up?
For those in the radio audience, I'm moving my hand
Up and down
No windshield wipers
Just use your hand, reach your hand out
That's funny
So you were soaking wet by the time you got wet when you were going
That doesn't matter, we made it there
It's built character
He had clothes in the backseat to change into, he knew

(01:18:21):
My base amp was in the backseat
Oh, right
And that's it, because it was a Fiat, you couldn't fit a piece of paper back there with that
No
Dude, have you ever traveled
Around the world, or out of the United States?
Around the world, yeah
My real career, I'm a
Research psychologist for UCSD
And I teach at San Diego State, so I'm on faculty there
So it's

(01:18:43):
Dr. Steve in the daytime
Dr. Steve
I'll be going by some boy and say, Dr. Talley
And the people that hang around me otherwise look at me like
Wait, you're a doctor
Is that wrong?
Dr. Steve
And then the people that see me in the daytime
As a doctor, then they can see all the music
And the running and the other stuff
So it's a lot of different separate worlds

(01:19:05):
But what was the question?
Traveled outside
Or played music outside
More traveling in my profession, you know
To conferences and things, you know, for UCSD
Than I have for music
Music's mostly been traveling on
Four wheels, you know, and just where
The tour van would take us
And wherever we were booked
And so I didn't do any of the

(01:19:27):
European or Japan tours
That the bands were doing at the time
As a matter of fact, after I left in Flywheel
Flywheel did Japan and other tour
And everything like that, damn them
So have you played music?
Yeah, you know, some of the
South America and Europe and things
Was not playing music
Much at the time, it was a period of my life
Where I kind of put the music down a little bit

(01:19:49):
And was not doing that much
I think it would be pretty fun, dude
To go to like Japan or something
With my band Dirty Confetti Country Band
And just go to some places
Just set up
Just set up and see what happens
They would love you guys
I think they would
Near a sake bar near the airport
Can you see him?

(01:20:11):
He would have everybody doing his toast
And they wouldn't even know the length
What he was talking about
I don't know what cilantro is
It's TBR magic
They would be all sitting there
I think that would be such a funny
Skit, I mean just a funny scene
To see that play out
Because even the manager of the restaurant would be like
I don't know, I guess corporate called him in

(01:20:33):
Exactly
Look at them all singing along
Hey boss, this guy just came in
With a bunch of chairs
Somebody else must have booked it
Alright, well out of the way
They're pretty good
Just take over a cafe in Japan
They do Johnny Cash, they're pretty good
If it's a cat cafe, I mean
They're pretty good

(01:20:59):
Oh my god
Oh my god, oh my god
This is what happens when we drink whiskey
As the show goes on
Before we go down
The Japan-Thea Road
We better switch topics here on this
No editing, no editing
No editing
Thea from Thea the Band

(01:21:21):
We love you
Alright, I'm going to play some songs
And when we come back, you guys are going to play a song
Alright, let's do it
Since we mentioned Albert and Gary Lewis
A little earlier, we're going to get to Albert

(01:22:01):
You're going to find yourself in hard times
You can count on all that
You're going to fall off your horse
You're going to knock yourself flat
You're going to raise up a family
You're going to raise up your kids
You're going to marry the one you love
And wander warden the hell you're dead
And the winds are going to blow
And the oak trees are cracked
And the sound of your soul

(01:22:23):
Well, of course you're going to die
You're going to die
You're going to die
And the sound of your soul
Well, it'll come a-wisely back
But you can't praise the Lord
Cause you got it real good
This ain't an easy life
It's going to knock you all around
You better get back up
You better brush yourself right off

(01:22:45):
You better try a little harder
Cause there's no place to get off
La la la
La la la
La la la
La la la
La la la
La la la
La la la
La la la
La la la

(01:23:07):
La la la
You better watch out
For pills
The paint hurts but it don't kill
You might drink to forget
But you'll find
It's hard to quit
You better work on true love
You better work on yourself
You're gonna work so damn hard that you forget about all else

(01:23:31):
Gonna be the things you did you wish you never had done
Gonna be times you gotta stay when you wish you could run
Gonna be you knocking at your doors and a banging on your floors
And grinding on your mind so much you just can't take no more

(01:23:53):
But you can't raise a load cause you got it real good
This ain't an easy life that's gonna knock you all around
You better get back up, you better brush yourself right off
You better try a little harder cause there's no place to get off

(01:24:16):
La la la...
And there ain't no excuse for lying
You're either moving or you're dying

(01:24:39):
Live good or you die trying
My girl there ain't no time for crying
You're either moving or you're dying
Live good or you die trying
My boy there ain't no time for crying
La la la...

(01:25:21):
La la la...

(01:25:56):
Hey pretty baby are you ready for me?
Yeah, it's your good rocking daddy down from Tennessee
I'm just that awesome about the sanity tone
With the radio blasting and the bird dog gone
And the speed travel ahead to Salmon Town

(01:26:21):
But no local yoke is gonna shut me down
Cause me and my boys got this rigging around
And we'll come a thousand miles from a guitar track

(01:26:44):
Nothing ever happened around my hometown
I ain't kinda just hanging around
But I heard someone calling my name one day
And I followed that voice down the lost highway
Everybody told me you can't get far
On thirty seven dollars and a jacked guitar
Now I'm smoking into Texas with the hammer down

(01:27:07):
And a rocking little cop from the guitar class
Hey pretty baby don't you know it ain't my fault
I love to hear the steel bells humming on the asphalt
Wake up in the middle of the night and the truck stops

(01:27:29):
Stumble in the restaurant wondering why it don't stop
Well I gotta keep rocking while I still can
Got a two pack habit and a motel tan
When my boots hit the boards I'm a brand new man
When my back to the rise will make my stand
Hey pretty baby won't you hold me tight

(01:27:52):
I'm loading up and rolling out of here tonight
One of these days I'm gonna settle down
And take you back with me to the guitar class

(01:28:27):
That's it this is all about it
We're back
Alright ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the
Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show
I'm your host Travis Billy Ross
We're hanging out with Steve Talley today
It's not much outlaw country today I apologize
Oh no it's okay
It's fun times though we're having a good time
Your hair probably grew four inches during this
I know my hair is getting long

(01:28:50):
I can smell the perm smell already
I'm waiting for a special date to cut my hair
I won't mention that date but
Aquanet, Aquanet, extra super old
The pink hand that's what we use
That's what you see over there
Alright so Steve Talley I came over to your house one time
Yup
I think that was the only time I ever came
Have I been there?

(01:29:11):
Yes the first and the last time
We actually have your name on a board there now
That says Never Again
Oh I know right
Don't ever invite this asshole over
It was really fun
It was actually I was thinking about this on the way over
Driving the golf cart over
It was I was thinking what was the circumstances of that
And it turns out it was after a smoking can and jam night Friday night

(01:29:32):
Open mic night ended and we weren't ready to be done
So a whole bunch of us came over to my house
Yeah
And we have I have an incredible wife
My wonderful wife Chris Talley
Oh I love Chris
When we moved in the house we had you know older
Our house was built in 79 and it has older houses had a dining room
And it's like
Completely locked off

(01:29:53):
Why?
Because it's the core footage that's never used as the definition of dining room
So we tried a pool table it was just a little small for that right
And so I looked at it one day and I said
Do you mind if I build a pub in here?
And I was fully expecting to be rejected
And she said no that sounds great
So built a pub in there
And now we use it as our kind of little jam thing
We never realized we'd have all our friends over

(01:30:14):
So we had everybody over we got together in the pub
And you know what happens when you get a guitar in this guy's hands
And we'd all been having some of the good smoking can and beers
For a while and we had a little tequila and other things
Had the fire pit going I remember that night
And so you were doing some songs
And I didn't know your whole repertoire that well I remember you were doing some stuff
And I asked you about some tunes

(01:30:35):
And it turns out you love this one genre that my wife and I love
That this song's from
I didn't even know what to call it
It's country right
It's sort of country but it's got that
I don't even want to cut it's not
It's almost like an outlaw kind of a vibey
Newer kind of country
So the song that
Alright we're going to do a song y'all

(01:30:57):
It's by a guy named Matt Mason
It's called E
Right E?
Alright Steve Taylor you got it?
Fire it off I'll join in
I'll jump in and hang on
Alright A minor C G
I know those
Alright here we go
Let's do this

(01:31:31):
I just got home from Wichita
Couple days before I thought
They recognized the truck parked in my drive
My boots hit the hardwood floor
Busted through the bedroom door
I guess I must have caught you by surprise
By the time they got us buckled on
I hit safe and grabbed my gun
You're begging me with tears in your eyes

(01:31:55):
Screaming baby let him go
You don't want that on your soul
I said a man is gonna die tonight
I'm chasing tail lights
Straight as a crow flies
Humming just as down a country road
I've got a shotgun
It's riding shotgun
And we're both fixing to unload

(01:32:19):
Son I know what you've done
There's only one way to outrun me
You better pray your tank
Don't be my decay
guitar solo

(01:32:46):
guitar solo
guitar solo

(01:33:07):
Just look past the counter line
The needle's pushing 95
I'm on you like a shadow move for move
All you see is my headlights
I see the whites in your eyes
That fear in your rear view
Go ahead and ride the gas
Don't think that you're living man
Cause you make a past dead man's curl

(01:33:31):
Man as far as I can tell
We might both end up in hell
You're sure as hell going first
I've got a shotgun
It's riding shotgun

(01:33:55):
Don't be my decay
guitar solo

(01:34:28):
guitar solo
guitar solo

(01:34:57):
I've got a shotgun
It's riding shotgun

(01:35:21):
Don't be my decay
Ah, nicely done gentlemen.
Nicely done.
Don't you love the storytelling ones?
Yes.
I know dude.
I know you totally see it in your head.

(01:35:42):
I know right.
You can see the guy's forehead sweating.
Yes.
I mean he just got home from Wichita
a couple days before he thought.
It's like, oh man what a crazy story.
Good song man.
Good job dude.
Thanks man.
I appreciate you guys doing that.
That was cool.
We just jumped in and hung on with you.
We've never done that one before.
No we haven't.
Very good.

(01:36:03):
Very good.
I always wanted to.
That was killing dude.
My voice is way too high for it
so I have to live vicariously.
But dude you got the good harmonies right there.
Match that stuff.
Heck yeah dude.
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Oh Steve Talley.

(01:36:24):
I know you had that a couple weeks ago.
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That's one of my favorites.
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(01:36:46):
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(01:38:11):
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Alright so Steve Talley.

(01:38:33):
Outlaw country.
I know we talked about.
That's never been said in the same sentence before.
We talked about you said Johnny Cash.
Yup.
And that's a doable.
That's acceptable.
It is.
What do you think about George Strait being called the king of country?
I don't think that's.
He's trying to pick a fight now.
I know what he's doing.
I was going to come in and say Willie Nelson was the king of country.

(01:38:55):
That's acceptable too.
I don't know.
Some of your stuff I've heard it sounds like Willie.
So I got a Willie story for you.
Alright.
That band right there.
Behind you.
This band.
Flywheel.
In 1988 Willie Nelson was doing a TV special in Austin.
He decided he wanted all the up and coming bands from around the country to be on his TV special.
So he did this regional thing where there was a combination of sort of battle of the bandish stuff

(01:39:20):
and consensus from DJs and things like that on who the best bands were in the region.
So we got Southern California.
I'm regionally.
He flew us out to his ranch in Austin and we got to film a TV special with Willie Nelson.
He for our families.
I mean my mom.
That's crazy.
And so this was in 1988.
Yeah.
And I.
So he was only like a hundred at that.
Exactly.

(01:39:41):
I just get.
I tell you I've got pictures with him.
He looks the same.
Yeah.
And and he flew us out there.
And we did this TV special with him.
And I've got videos of it.
I will send you guys some things.
I would love that.
I like best days.
He goes.
And now from Southern California one of my favorites flywheel.
And it's the best.

(01:40:02):
But the thing I love about Willie the most is my very conservative Italian mother.
Right.
She comes out there to sit.
She's so proud because we're playing at the Austin Opera House.
I mean it was big television cameras everything around.
Oh yeah.
Big time.
And so he had to come over.
I says Tally is everything OK.
Let me know if we need anything.
My mom conservative mom you know this is Willie Nelson you know.
For the smoke and everything.

(01:40:23):
She's like nobody for the rest of their lives could say a bad word to will about Willie
Nelson in front of my mom.
Oh no.
He is the nicest man.
Oh my God.
And rightfully so he was incredible.
Yeah.
The way he took care of everybody there.
But so you actually met with like hung out with him for the whole of the rehearsals.
He was not one of those guys that shows up for the show.

(01:40:46):
He was just there.
The all the rehearsals everything mingling with all the bands having a good time laughing
doing a thing.
Willie is like the best.
Wow.
That's cool.
I always like to hear those stories about like super famous people that they're like
but it's not surprising about Willie.
You know in many ways on that he's kind of that guy you know and that's what did I know
at the time I was like my favorite band at the time you know it's like Dawkin you know

(01:41:08):
it's like Willie Nelson.
Like I didn't I knew Willie Nelson was I knew a song I knew how a legend he was.
Yeah.
But then I met him and I was like Willie for life.
That's cool.
You know sometimes we have to sit and think about what what what type of a world are we're
going to leave behind for you know Willie Nelson and Keith Richards.

(01:41:29):
That's true.
They're going to be pissed at us if we screwed up.
I saw a meme the other day was Keith Richards holding two little babies.
Look at their Keith Richards with Adam and Eve.
It's amazing.
Oh man.
That's amazing.
I also saw another thing on I don't know Facebook or some social media.

(01:41:52):
It was a it showed the Highwaymen all four of them and the only one that's still around
man is Willie Nelson.
Willie Nelson.
That's crazy.
With the same guitar.
Same guitar.
Trigger.
With it's definitely it's got holes it's barely a it's barely a guitar.
So you know the intro to the show that we that we were going to update very soon but
the intro to the show sweet curb says I'm Ken and I clean Willie Nelson's under hole.

(01:42:18):
So that's about that on repeating loop.
So that's about that's about Willie Nelson's guitar.
So you know his guitar trigger.
Yeah.
Has a hole.
It's two sound holes.
It's got the main hole and then the one that his fingers.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a whole documentary.
So there's someone that no pun intended.
Yeah.

(01:42:39):
The guy out in Austin Texas.
His name is not Ken.
His name is Ken.
She was making it up.
There is a guy that cleans the under hole of his.
Well you can't trust that to anybody.
It'll fall apart.
You know I know man.
That's an old Martin guitar like a 47 something.
I don't know.
Old guitar.
I looked at it.
I looked it up.
But I'm a little drunk right now.
So I'm good.
But yeah that's an amazing story man.

(01:43:00):
Can you imagine that.
Yeah.
How many guitars do you play like like throughout you know even just one time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's played the same guitar.
Yes.
For ever.
Like same guitar.
And you know how many he has but that's what he plays on stage.
And I go through my times.
I'll go through years that I played just one bass you know whatever but I love to switch
around acoustics.
I was forced to make a count at my house the other day and it came out at 17 and that includes

(01:43:25):
basses.
Yeah.
That's all right.
And that don't go over those books because they're not accurate.
But they're in different rooms.
I move them around.
I change cases.
Secrets to do it.
But you're right.
And one signature it's the BB King model.
Signature.
You know you got a Lucille.

(01:43:45):
Lucille.
That's an old Gibson Gibson.
Oh man.
I remember I was about 20 years old and I was like I had one guitar when I was 20 years
old and I said something was wrong with it.
Like I didn't know how to adjust it or the deck or anything like that.
So I was hanging out with my dad and I was like yeah yes I think I need a new guitar.

(01:44:05):
I don't know.
This one's not working right.
I need a new guitar.
He's like you know Willie Nelson's been using the same damn guitar.
And I'm like yeah but I'm not Willie Nelson.
And I don't know how he does it because I didn't know.
Willie started with a five thousand dollar guitar.
Yes that's right.
That's what you told him.

(01:44:27):
If you would have got me a five thousand dollar guitar I wouldn't need another one.
I had like a two hundred dollar fender of whatever it was.
Amazon special.
All right.
You know what sucks.
Oh is it time.
We're running out of time.
So what we're gonna do.
Doesn't it go by fast.
Steve Talley.

(01:44:47):
It's amazing.
Just like your whiskey did.
We've been shitting here.
We've been shitting here.
We've been shitting here shitting the shit.
We've been shitting here and talking about all kinds of cool stuff.
And then what are we gonna do.
We're gonna do a trivia.
So we're gonna we're gonna do name that tune.

(01:45:09):
All right.
And we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna come a little bit outside of our norms for the
show.
But everybody should be able to do this.
This is not a hard category.
OK.
All right.
It's hair metal essentials.
Oh for fuck's sake.
OK.
Does this mean like you say that like hair spray like essentials.
No it's it's.
The music.
Yeah.

(01:45:30):
Oh I'm gonna lose.
I'll set this one out.
No I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
You don't tell me you don't.
You mean the time.
Well come on comes and roses.
So we talked about.
All right.
You see what we're doing.
I got to Cassie.
I just want to.
All right.
Everybody should know these.
That was ingrained.

(01:45:51):
OK.
OK, so here's one more.
Here's one more warm up song.
There's a warm up song.
No points.
All right.
I just want to see if you guys see where we're going with this.
Travis go ahead.
I feel the noise.
Be on the nose.
OK, so this is a Quiet Riot.
See, you're going to get them all.
Oh, no.

(01:46:12):
Did not know either one of those.
TMac would kill us on this.
I'm telling you, I have a very specific genre
and niche of music.
It's all good.
No, I'm not a fan.
I'm just saying.
Let's see.
OK, so Tally, so here's how it works.
You have to say your name.
Yes.
And then that triggers you to answer the answer.
Your name is your buzzer, essentially.
Your name is your buzzer.
OK.
We tried the buzzards before, and we almost

(01:46:32):
got in a whole fight in here.
And that didn't work.
By the way, my favorite quote from the Travis McKenzie show
was, I have to mute all of you.
Do you remember?
Yeah.
Mute all of you.
You're all getting muted.
You're all getting muted.
Fuck fast, Eric.
He's like, you're all getting muted.
Yeah.
All right, so because this is his main background,

(01:46:55):
but we've all heard these songs.
We know these songs.
All right.
All right, we're doing this.
Let's see how this goes.
You ready?
All right.
OK.
Hold on.
Your name is your buzzard.
Your buzzard.
Oh, wait.
We got to tell them the rules.
So your name is your buzzard.
Once you buzzard?
Your name is your buzzard.
So once you're in, you can say you have the opportunity
to get two points.

(01:47:16):
You can get the name of the song and then the artist.
Oh, OK.
So that's two.
If you only know one, then it goes
to whoever else that might know the other one.
You get five seconds.
And you get five seconds.
Oh, man.
OK.
All right.
Are we ready?
Yes.
All right.
Let me get my drink here.
All right.
Here we go.
Everybody got all your glasses?
Everybody got drinks?
Are we good?
Oh, shit.
Tally, are you here?

(01:47:36):
Hang on.
Time out.
Hold on.
Fix Tally.
We need whiskey.
Real quick.
Send it that way.
Send it that way.
Put on your beeper, Eric.
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
Beep.
Thank you.
OK.
Here we go.
Glip, glip, glip, glip.
All right.
Let's do this.
All right.
Here we go.
We've done two warm up songs.
So now we're going to start playing.

(01:47:57):
All right.
Here we go.
All right.
OK.
Steve Tally, Bon Jovi, Travis, Prince.
No.
Oh, OK.
Steve Tally.
Go ahead.
Great White.
I know this song.
I know the song, too.
Oh, I got it.
Steve Tally.
Go ahead.
Dang it.

(01:48:18):
This is David Coverdale.
It's Steve Tally.
I know this song.
I know this song, too.
Oh, I got it.
Steve Tally.
Go ahead.
Dang it.
Steve Tally's had too much whiskey.
White Snake.
It is White Snake.
You've got five seconds.
Do you know the song?
Name?
I will when the chorus comes up.

(01:48:40):
Kirby does that, too.
She's like, you put this on because of the Tonic Attain story.
Damn you.
Oh, did I?
All right.
Five more seconds.
Is This Love?
It is.
There you go.
Is This Love?
OK.
All right.
Here we go.
The beginning of it.
Travis.
Travis.

(01:49:00):
Kiss?
It is Kiss.
Rock and roll all night.
Party every day.
Lick it up.
It is Lick it Up.
All right, I got one.
Gassy.
All right, here we go.
Travis.
Travis.
Billy Idol?
This is a very specific genre of music he's signing.

(01:49:22):
It's very specific, yeah.
Steve Talley.
Go ahead.
Ozzy Osbourne.
It is Ozzy Osbourne.
Damn.
You know the thing.
Shot in the Dark.
There you go.
Shot in the Dark.
Damn.
Here we go.
Travis.
Travis.
Come on, Van Halen.
And Jump.
There you go.
Yeah.

(01:49:47):
All right.
We got time for a few more.
Travis.
Go ahead.
Guns N' Roses.
It is.
Nice.
November Rain.
Yes.
Yeah.
Travis.
Travis.
Rock it like a hurricane.

(01:50:07):
Scorpions.
It is.
You got five seconds for the song title.
No One Like You.
Yeah.
No One Like You.
No One Like You.
Damn, I thought it was Rock it like a Hurricane.
I probably came at four and a half seconds there.
Here we go.

(01:50:29):
Oh.
Five seconds.
Travis.
Go ahead.
Boston.
Oh, Steve Talley.
Go ahead.
It is Vixen.

(01:50:49):
You know the name of the song?
I don't.
Crying.
I don't know if this is good or bad.
I've never even heard of the band Vixen.
Freaking glam rock.
All girl band.
Total glam rock.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is it.
Travis.
Who is it?

(01:51:11):
Tiffany?
No, what are you doing?
We played this one in the bottom line for 30 years,
and I'm drawing a blank on the thing.
It's called Deadly.
Oh, no.
You're out of time.
Kiss me once.
Travis.
Kiss me deadly.
Kiss me deadly.
Kiss me deadly.
I lead a four.

(01:51:31):
Oh, come on.
I'm going to give this one to you.
Steve Talley.
Go ahead.
Aerosmith, You're My Angel.
Oh, gosh dang.
You're my A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A.
There you go.

(01:51:52):
Here we go.
Steve Talley.
Steve Talley.
Mon Jovi, Runaway.
Oh, man.
I don't remember a mention.
On the streets where you live, girls talk about your social
lives.
Yes.
Good on, John Bond.
All right, hold on.

(01:52:15):
God damn.
Can you feel that?
I'm sweating.
Stuff brings out.
She's a little runaway.
Travis.
Travis.
This is Poison.
I play this one all the time.
You heard us do this one.
I play this song.
Every Rose Has a Storm.
Yes, by Poison.

(01:52:35):
There you go.
All right.
In the day and the night.
We should have done this one.
Oh, we should have done this one.
Yeah, that would have been killer.
Here we go.
I got it.
Steve Talley.
Go ahead.
David Lee Roth, This Must Be Lust Like Paradise.
Yeah, man.
Not Van Halen.
That's David Lee Roth.

(01:52:56):
David Lee Roth.
And T-Mac listens to this episode.
He's going to go, go!
I can't think.
I know.
Oh.
Travis?
Go ahead.
I'm just going to say Twisted Sister.
No.
Fuck.
It was going to be Twisted Sister.

(01:53:17):
Oh, Travis.
Go ahead.
Alice Cooper?
Fuck.
I'm going to say Twisted Sister.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Fuck.
Five more seconds.
Anybody else?
You want to say it, huh?

(01:53:38):
I do.
Who is it?
It's Skid Row.
Monkey Business.
It is.
You hear these voices?
I was going to say Iron Dragon.
This is the frickin' shit, you guys.
Listen to this.
What happened to this shit?
Send me back in time.

(01:54:00):
God damn.
That was some great music.
Ah!
Travis.
Go ahead.
We've done this one.
I'm ready to rock!
No.
No.
Cherry Pie, Poison, Steve Talley.
Cherry Pie, what?
Ding, ding, ding.
We know who is by, right?

(01:54:21):
Warren.
Warren.
I was.
He said Warren.
Oh my gosh, you're right.
What's in this whiskey?
One point.
Jane Lane, yeah.
All right.
Come on, Steve Talley.
Motley Crue.
My friends are going to be so ashamed.

(01:54:41):
You're kicking my ass, Steve Talley.
I have not one point.
I'm just drawing a blank on the name.
I probably did this song 500 times.
I love this song.
Yeah.
All right, you guys.
I'm going to have to move on to girls, girls, girls.
Girls, girls, girls.
It's the one about all the goddamn strip clubs.
She saw boobs.

(01:55:03):
They mean every good strip club there was.
Cassie's in the studio openly trying to help me cheat,
and I still can't figure it out.
Hey.
Hey, Travis, look at me.
OK.
Come on, Travis.
Oh, I know.
Steve Talley.
Go ahead.
Def Leppard.

(01:55:25):
The names are killing me.
I know this one, and he misses it.
It's not Portsmouth Sugar.
It is.
It is?
It is.
Yeah, Portsmouth Sugar.
Kirby got it.
My one point, yes.
Kirby gets one.
She just confirmed to my guess.
She's on the board.
I don't have a due say.
Here we go.
Travis, go ahead.
This is Van Halen.

(01:55:46):
It is.
Slippery and Wet.
No, that's Bungie.
No, I mean Slippery and Wet is.
It's Sammy-era.
I like that you know the hair.
He's like, this is Zadar.
This is Air Roth.
I didn't get one point, though.

(01:56:06):
No, this is not Sammy-era.
This is Panama.
It is Panama.
This is Panama.
I'm the David Lee Roth there.
David Lee Roth, but it was a.
Forgive me, all my friends.
It was Van Halen, though.
Yes, it is.
It is Van Halen.
Here we go.

(01:56:28):
Travis, go ahead.
Oh.
Bon Jovi.
Steve Jolly, Def Leppard.
Yeah, Def Leppard.
What's the name of the song?
It's one word song.

(01:56:49):
Five seconds.
Foolin'.
Foolin', yeah.
That's a foolin'.
I'm blamin' the whiskey, you guys.
I know this.
Here we go.
Last one.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Who doesn't?

(01:57:16):
No, nothing.
Nothing, huh?
I know what it is, but.
I see when they start singing.
I mentioned them earlier.
Yes, I did.
Poison.
No.
Oh my gosh, it's.
No, it's Motley Crue.
Oh, wait a minute.
No, no, no.
It's Great White.
Great White.
Once Bitten, Twice Shy.
And another one.
Do you know how many years that band did this in the clubs?

(01:57:36):
I just have to play the keyboard parts at the beginning.
Because the keyboard part.
One for Kirby.
Who is this?
Oh, I hear a pedal steel.
Oh, Kirby?
Yeah.
Dust on the bottle?
No, no.
No, oh, hold on.
Oh, Meat in the Middle.
Yes.
Oh gosh, it's a band.

(01:57:58):
It's not Diamond Rio.
It is Diamond Rio.
Nice.
All right, sweet Curbs.
God bless you, Eric.
Showing the expertise.
All right.
I'm telling you, you have a very good score.
They think I'm good at music trivia.
We don't need a score.
We already know Tally won.
I'm very good at country music trivia.
I'm ashamed of some of the ones I missed.
Tally got 20 points.
Travis, 8.
Kirby, good job with your two, honey.
You got two.
Well done.
I'm telling you, someone waving at me.

(01:58:19):
I know I can see me, but.
I should have swept it.
If I had to lose to anyone, I'm happy it was you, Steve.
Eric, you're such a great host on that.
Because pulling those things into my wheelhouse.
Because if we did it in the country,
when I would have sat here and had them refill my whiskey.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
We're out of time.
All right, we're out of time.
Y'all, where can we come see you?
Oh, well.
What bands?

(01:58:40):
What sets and where?
Sounds good.
Ash and the Mondays will be doing.
Gosh, we're not going to be playing.
We play every third Friday at Reds, Whites, and Blues.
Coming up here.
So Ash and the Mondays.
So today's the 22nd.
Except for this month.
Christmas.
Yeah.
And then we're moving around, starting January.

(01:59:00):
Tally Mac will be once a month at Pamo.
And just check out Pamo's for those dates,
because they're variable.
OK.
All the way through into the middle of summer.
Yay.
And then bottom line, we'll be playing at Reds, Whites,
and Blues about once every couple of months.
Again, check Reds, Whites, and Blues.
They're on that.
I'm thinking of the Ramona, the venues, and everything like
that.
And otherwise, I'll be doing the solo thing over at Three Hills

(01:59:23):
on the third Friday of every month, starting in the spring.
And otherwise, just doing the Monday nights at Reds.
I love it.
Thanks for coming, man.
It was so fun hanging out with you.
Thank you guys for helping me.
Steve Talley, thank you so much, man.
I love getting to know you beyond the five minutes
and the music.
This is what we love to do, man.
We love to have you on, people on, and just have fun,
and talk shit.

(01:59:44):
We got to do this from the Talley pub next time too.
We can do it.
Say good night to us.
All right, you guys.
Thank you so much for listening in.
And have a Merry Christmas.
It's coming up in a couple of days.
So make sure you give your loved ones a hug and a kiss,
and all that stuff.
And we'll see you all next Sunday.
God bless you.
Good night.

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