Episode 36: Jessica Frankeberger

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I got the whiskey. Let me have a drink of your whiskey.

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Better get out of here.
My name's Ken and I clean Willie Nelson's underhull.
Underhull?
I know you don't agree, but I think he's the king of country.
Get the fuck out of here.
I tried to be kind to her.
Get out of my studio.
I'm just kidding.
No, hell no.

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From the Ramona Radio Studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show.
Alright, we're here. We're back. We're live.
Hope everybody had a really good New Year's and a good Christmas.
It was the holiday season just passed us and now we're here in January.
Holy schnikes.
With me today. We don't have sweet curbs today.

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What? Where's she at?
She's in Texas.
She's in Texas visiting a family.
She's in Takis, but we're going to prank call her later on.
We're going to prank call her?
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll prank call her.
No, I feel like I have to say, hey, hey.
Oh, hey.
This was like close at all.
Cassie's standing in.
Hey, hey.
Wait, do it again?
Hey, hey.
No.
No, see? I can't do it.

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Nobody can fill those curvy shoes.
I'm going to have to party.
I'm going to make a curvy hey, hey button on here.
I'm going to try.
We do have Cassie with us today.
Hello.
Hello, Miss Cassie.
I know.
2025.
I know, man. 2025. What a year.
And then we got Eric Goforth, the man behind.
Hi, buddy.
Hi, buddy.
How are you?

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The guy behind this mastermind of the soundboard.
Proof.
Proof.
I'm there.
I have the button.
So we do have a very cool guest with us today.
We have, if you've ever had a pizza here in Ramona, there's only one pizza that's the
best pizza in Ramona.
It's Jessica.
Franken-Burger.
Franken-Burger.

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Franken-Burger.
Jessica.
Franken-Rabbit.
Franken-Rabbit, yes.
Franken-Rabbit.
What's up, Jessica?
How you doing?
I'm doing pretty good.
Pretty good?
Pretty good.
Oh, yeah.
Thanks for hanging out.
Mama Ramona's.
Mama Ramona's.
I say, come on, Travis.
We got...
Oh, yeah.
I was thinking pizza.
It goes, pizza Jessica.
That's what it's called.
There's too many things with pizza.

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There's never too many things with pizza.
Oh, man.
I'm going to tell you the best pizza in Ramona right here, the lady that makes it all, right
here.
She's sitting right beside me.
How are you, my friend?
Doing good.
Doing good.
You got enough drink over there?
You good?
Got some whiskey.
I'm drinking whiskey and cranberry.
It's freaking delicious.
She's got her special cocktail going.
Cassie makes a mean cocktail.

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Cassie makes a mean cocktail.
Yes, she does.
I have a skill or two.
That's one of them.
Cassie's got her own theme song.
She makes...
She keeps everybody in line and she makes the...
Crack the whip.
She makes the drinks.
Make the drinks.
Where's that theme song?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, oh.
A little ska action.
Only because I wish I was on a beach.
Cassie cruise through the mezz.
She's a shining light.

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She keeps us all on track.
Makes the chaos right.
Without a guiding hand, we'd be lost at night.
Cassie keeps us steady.
Makes the world bright.
Someone's got to keep this train on the track.
That's all I want to say about that.
Damn right.
Cassie, we appreciate you so.
I appreciate you so much.
Oh, no.
It's a fun day to be here trying to fill Kirby's shoes, but that's going to be a...

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That's a tall order, so we'll do what we have to.
Do what we've got to do, Jessica.
Yeah, it's kind of nice when we actually get to hear Cassie on the radio.
Yeah, I'm usually...
Sometimes second half, it depends on the guest of the week.
It just kind of depends, but...
It works.
Usually it's like a whisper in the background.
Oh, yeah.
There's always that, especially during scorekeeping activity.
She's like, it's eight to nine.
Kirby's winning again.
Jessica, so the pizza slinger in Ramona, how did you end up becoming the pizza slinger in

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Ramona?
Well, I was actually working at Costco.
Costco.
I was working at Costco, and I left there, and I was trying to figure out what I wanted
to do, and I kept seeing ads for a pizza slapper for...
It was Mama Rose's.
Is that what it's called?
Pizza slapper.
Pizza slapper.
Is that the official title?
It is, actually.
Okay.
Okay, so I said slinger, so I was not too far off.
I love this.
No, I love this.
If I sling the dough, I wear the dough.
So I slapped the dough.

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Really bad hand-knife coordination.
Pizza slappin'.
So pizza slapper from Costco, you were...
Well, there was a pizza stretcher.
We didn't slap the dough.
Okay.
Holy shit, how many things it goes with pizza?
The slinger, the stretcher.
This is an education.
This is an education.
We're all getting Bill Nye on this.
This whole thing.
I'm an eater.

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It's pretty cool.
Does pizza eater sound like a thing?
Absolutely.
Okay, cool.
I'm one of those.
I know where I stand.
It's the one-eyed, one-horned, flying, purple pizza eater.
Pizza eater, there you go.
I feel like we need a song for a pizza slapper, though.
That's just too good.
Pizza slapper.
That's just too good.
I like that.
I thought Travis about that.
Maybe he can make a song about that.
Yeah.
I think I can work with that.
Yeah.
Pizza slapper.

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You might watch that on Cinemax.
It's going to be the theme song for the next Cinemax movie.
Exactly.
It sounds like it's going to be a Skinemax show.
Exactly.
Skinemax.
Oh my gosh.
All right, so Costco, you were doing that.
I left Costco, and I saw several ads for them needing a pizza slapper.

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They couldn't find a good person to be in the kitchen, mostly because their main cook
hated everyone.
After the fourth ad, I'm like, no, screw it.
I'll go in there, go and talk to the guys, talk to one of the owners for about 20 minutes,
start work the next day.
The crew there absolutely sucked.
They didn't know what they were doing.
Were they just not slapping it right?
Yeah, they were not slapping it right.

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They didn't know to smack or slap that pizza.
I mean, slap the pizza.
Basically no one wanted to train me, and no one wanted to actually let me do what I was
hired to do.
So I started cleaning the restaurant.
It was falling apart and kind of gross, and I started stripping stuff out and helping
Andrew gut everything out.
Spending a lot of time doing that, the head cook started to actually bring me into the

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kitchen.
She was like, well, can you fix this?
Can you fix this?
I'm like, all right, she's opening it up to me.
This might work.
Eventually, she let me in the kitchen.
I started making pizza, and it's been there ever since.
Cool.
Wow.
So Andrew was the owner.
It was Andrew and Wayne.
Wayne actually owns Orange Crate.
They were partners at the time.
I gotcha.
Wayne's the one who hired me.
So the story though, but you became the owner now of Mama Rona's Pizza.

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Do you got to tell us about this story?
I don't know how that happened.
I got a text one day saying, hey, do you want Mama's?
And I said, wait, what?
Yeah, of course.
I guess.
What's that entail?
And he said, basically, you're doing it now.
You just have everything in your name.
Because for the last three years, I have been doing everything.
I did all the inventory.
I did all the training.
So you were slapping pizzas for a few years before you became the owner slapper.

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Four and a half years.
Four and a half years now.
Wow.
Yeah.
If you don't know where this place is we're talking about, Mama Ramona's, it's Main Street.
What's the actual address of the?
It's 632 Main Street, nestled right in between Pamu Winery and Ramona Cafe.
Ramona Cafe.
And Pamu.
Directly across the street from Reds.
Reds Watson Brews.
Reds Watson Brews.
Right on.
Awesome.

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So you're doing takeout now, right?
Yes.
OK.
And then the restaurant was over on D Street.
But then I guess Andrew closed that down and moved over to Main Street.
So that's where you kind of took over, right?
Yeah.
Awesome.
So I have a cool story about Jessica.
Oh.
Frankenburger.
Or is it?
Yeah.
Frankenburger.
Where did FrankenRabbit come from?

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That's the story we made.
The FrankenRabbit story.
FrankenRabbit.
Where does Rabbit come from?
It actually came from a couple spots.
So way back in the day, Who Framed Roger Rabbit was one of my favorite movies.
Oh, OK.
Cool.
And it was always a joke that I was Jessica Rabbit.
That was back in middle school and high school.
And that nickname kind of petered off.
Well, over here on D Street, when I was at Mama Ramona's over there, the owners of Bisher's

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Meats, Dan, would always come in and he'd say, I want to get pizza.
What is her name?
I only want to if this if she's working, what is her name?
And he couldn't remember.
So he sends his wife in one day and her and I are talking.
I said, hey, do you guys have any sausage casings?
And we started talking about the because I raise animals for me, what I want to inform
like I want to make rabbit sausage.
And ever since he heard rabbit, that's where it stuck.

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He started calling me Jessica Rabbit from that day forward.
Ah, so yeah.
And oh, man, who framed it kind of works.
She's kind of I like that movie.
I'm not bad.
I'm just drawn this way.
Oh, man.
So that's cool.
So are you a native Ramonian or no, I've been in a moment for 16 years.

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I actually was born in Chula Vista, raised in Oceanside, back to Chula Vista and wound
up coming up here.
That was actually 2009.
So it's been 16 years.
Oh, wow.
What brought you back up to her?
I guess not back up to Ramona, but up to her mama.
My husband, actually a really good friend of ours that he's known since he was a little
kid that I used to work with.
He originally set us up, offered us his granny flat in the back of his house over here on

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D Street.
So we moved in with him for a year before buying a house up here.
I got to he actually grew up up here.
Lucky us.
We went so Chula Vista, Oceanside, Chula Vista, Ramona.
Yep.
Damn, that's a pretty good little stretch there.
But native San Diego is what I'm hearing in that whole story, right?
My family's been here for like eight, nine, 20 generations.

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Eight, nine, 20.
I don't know how far.
There's no records for the original people.
I don't know.
That's how I usually count stuff too.
Eight, nine, 20, five, 80.
Yeah, so you are a big fan of the music scene here in Ramona.
I know you're a big supporter of all the musicians and all that.
We appreciate you for all that you do.

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And so my band, Dirty Confetti, has a pizza named after it.
It's not even a pizza.
What?
It's a Dirty Fries.
It's called Dirty Fries.
Dirty Fries.
You know, we had we were talking the other we had a guest last week.
We were talking about Dean's Outlaw BBQ and they got Tally Mac and we're all bitching
about the fact that he hasn't named anything after us.
But you held back.

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You do have something named after you.
You have Dirty Fries.
Dirty Fries, dude.
Best pizza in Ramona.
And if you ever go if you order it, just say I want a Dirty Fries.
But only if they're made by the pizza slap.
By the pizza slapper, Jessica.
Well, I'm the one only.
Break down the Dirty Fries.
OK, so the Dirty Fries.
All right.
So so it was a weird thing.

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You had like a low carb or what was it like a keto kind of pizza?
Crustless pizza.
We can't call it keto.
It's a crustless pizza.
It's actually Travis's fault, the reason why I did it, because he ordered it one night
and I said, Travis, what are you doing?
You always order a pizza.
You always want your Hawaiian pizza.
Why do you want a crustless pizza?
He goes, well, we're actually going to take it home and we're going to cook French fries.
I want to pour that on top.
I'm like, oh, you got an idea there.

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So the next time you ordered it, I said, hey, would you like that over French fries?
Yes.
And it was the craziest thing.
So yeah, I don't know why we yeah, we ordered the pizza without any crust.
So we had some crinkle fries in the house and we're going to, you know, the can you
explain?
Can we slow down for a second?
You got to explain a pizza with no crust.
OK, Pete.
So it's all the toppings.
The cheese, the cheese, the pineapple, the Canadian sauce.

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It's a whole I like the Hawaiian, but you can get it.
However, you like with everything or whatever, or the full Monte pizza, whatever you call
it, the work, the work, the work.
Sorry, the work.
We can't do pizza slapping dirty fries and the full Monte.
OK, so we brought it home and me and sweet curbs, we put it over.
We had some crinkle fries and like a freezer bag thing.

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And we've made the French fries and we put the pizza on top of the French fries and we
baked it.
OK, back up for a second to answer your question.
It is sauce, cheese and toppings baked in container.
You eat it with fork.
OK, OK, OK.
On top of a luscious bed of French fries.
Well, that's dirty.
It is now.
But I use it sounds weird, but it's so good because I get it all the time.

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Now I'll hit her up on Wednesday.
And you know, you and Pamo have teamed up and did there.
Did your glass of wine and a slice of pizza on Wednesdays.
It's a wine and dine Wednesdays, wine and dine Wednesdays.
That's a pretty cool deal that you guys got going on.
Was it 10 bucks for a glass and then a glass and a slice for a bottle and a 12 inch for
35.

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That's a good deal.
Smoke and every Wednesday from four to six, every Wednesday, four to six.
And that's it.
That's it.
Pamo.
Yeah, it happens to be one of our sponsors.
Yes, Pamo is our sponsor.
We're shouting you out right now, Jim.
So yes, definitely go there Wednesdays for that because that's a smoking deal.
You can't beat that anywhere.
A glass of wine and a slice of pizza.

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Holy shit.
That's pretty damn good.
Yeah.
So this is an outlaw country show.
You like country music, Jessica?
Newly liked.
I used to actually not like country music growing up.
I was all about classic rock, hard rock, jazz, blues.
I don't know what happened, why I had a change of heart, but something about this little
town made me start loving country music.
Yeah, that'll do it.
It does it to everybody.

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It's infectious.
We've had, you know, we've had a lot of guys too, but Southern rock, rock and roll, classic
rock, all of that blues, it all kind of fits in.
And ultimately, I mean, we've had so many guests from so many genres on this show.
So we had a metal guy in here, dude.
Dino Suna.
He played metal.
He was hard metal.

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That was fun.
He's a cool ass dude.
I love that guy.
Just a couple of weeks ago, we had Steve Talley, which was like the glam rock of the 80s.
What a good show.
That was a lot of fun.
Love that guy.
Heck yeah.
So we had a lot of guys.
I love that guy.
Heck yeah.
So Outlaw Country.
So you say you do like country now you're into the stuff.

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Who's your what's your what's your go to on your playlist?
Old school or like new school?
New school?
What do you like better?
What do you like better though?
Old or new?
Honestly, it depends on the artist.
There's artists I don't like and there's artists that I do like I don't like Garth
Brooks, but I love Tim McGraw.
Okay.
That's fair.
I'm not a fan of Garth Brooks either.
I like Tim McGraw.
Don't play that song.

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You're not allowed to say Garth Brooks though where you have to say Martha Gooks.
Martha Gooks.
Alright, so let's let's listen to a couple of songs.
What would be a good one that you would be in your playlist in your car?

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Let's say you're sitting in your car and you want to hit play.
What would you play?
Anything you want to hear?
Not Martha Gooks though.
Well, that is not on my Pandora Shuffle list.
I have a wide variety of everything.
I don't actually pick a certain genre when I listen to music.
I just go off the charts.
Play whatever.
She's the Shuffler.
Every once in a while you get a Christmas song happening and you're just like, no, that's

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fine.
It's not too late.
Christmas is not over till tomorrow, January 6th.
We've had this conversation.
Alright, get off.
Alright, when we come back from break, we can get into that.
You said Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw.
I like Tim McGraw.
Don't take the girl.
I don't want to cry right now.

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He said, thank you.
Don't steal, don't cheat, don't lie.

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Always stay humble and kind
Don't expect a free ride from no one
Don't hold a grudge or a chip and here's why
Bitterness keeps you from flying
Always stay humble and kind

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Know the difference between sleeping with someone
And sleeping with someone you love
I love you, ain't no pick-up line
So always stay humble and kind

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Hold the door, say please, say thank you
Don't steal, don't cheat and don't lie
I know you got mountains to climb
But always stay humble and kind
When those dreams you're dreaming come to you

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When the work you put in is realized
Let yourself feel the pride
But always stay humble and kind

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When it's hot, be it a root beer, popsicle
Shut off the AC and roll the windows down

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Let that summer sun shine, always stay humble and kind
Don't take for granted the love this life gives you
When you get where you're going, don't forget turn back around
And help the next one in line, always stay humble and kind

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I'm walking out the door
Take this job and shove it
I ain't working here no more
I've been working in this factory for now 15 years
All this time I watched my woman drowning in a pool of tears

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And I've seen a lot of good folk die and had a lot of bills to pay
I'd give the shirt right off of my back if I had the guts to say

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My woman done left and took all the reason I was working for
You better not try standing my way as I'm walking out the door

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Well that foreman, he's a regular dog
The line boss, he's a fool
Got a brand new flat top haircut
Lord thinks he's cool
One of these days I'm gonna blow my top and that sucker, he's gonna pay

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Lord I can't wait to see their faces when I get the nerve to say
My woman done left and took all the reason I was working for

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You better not try standing my way as I'm walking out the door

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I wish a buck was still silver
It was back when the country was wrong
Back before Elvis and before the Vietnam War came along

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Before the Beatles and yesterday
When a man could still work, still would
It's the best of the free life behind us now

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And are the good times really over for good
And I'll be rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell
With no kind of chance to bar the flag or the Liberty Bell

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I wish a Ford and a Chevy would still last ten years like they should

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I wish Coke was still cola and a joint was a bad place to be
And it was back before Nixon lied to us all on TV

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Before microwave ovens when a girl could still cook, still would

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I'll be rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell
With no kind of chance for the flag or the Liberty Bell

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I wish a Ford and a Chevy would still last ten years like they should

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Stop rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell
Stand up for the flag and let's all ring the Liberty Bell

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Let's make a Ford and a Chevy that'll still last ten years like they should
It's the best of the free life that's still yet to come
And the good times ain't over for good

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Alright, we're back. A little bit of Merle Haggard.
We're hanging out here with my good friend Jessica Frankenberger.
Hello. I love your name so much.
It's just so much fun to say.
It's fun to say.
Like boobies.
I know.
You can't say boobies without smiling.
Boobies.

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I think you told me that on our second date.
I was like, do I want to continue to date this man?
Where is this going?
I was going to let her know right then just how childish I am.
I'm very childish.
It's fun to say boobies because you can't say it without smiling.
And it's been how long now?

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15 years.
I had small children at the time so it just kind of fit into my day.
Oh, small children love boobies.
Oh yes.
Our youngest absolutely thought that was the best thing ever.
Oh man. So Jessica.
Travis.
April 13th. I know that's the day after your birthday.
We'll wait until their birthday.

(26:46):
Probably working.
Jessica's birthday, April 13th.
We're doing the 50th episode of this show live over at the Julian Station.
It's going to be awesome. It's going to be live.
We're going to air it live. We're going to start at noon.
Usually the show is at 6 as everybody knows.
But we're going to hit live at noon at the Julian Station.
And we're going to have all the guests, hopefully, whoever can make it.

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We're going to come and hang out. We're going to just sit and bullshit.
Well, if it's at noon I could probably show up because I don't open shop until 4.
Oh perfect.
You have to be there then.
You are a guest.
I guess.
It was on the release form that you signed when you came in.
Do you remember?
I didn't sign it.
You missed something.

(27:29):
Nobody signs anything here.
Details will be forthcoming as we work them all out on timing.
But we've got some great ideas that we're hoping to iron out here very soon.
It is April 13th though for sure.
And it's going to be a lot of fun.
We're going to have a good time.
Absolutely.
And since he's here I'm going to go ahead and give a shout out to our sponsor,
A La Barbecue.

(27:51):
What's up Dean?
Good man. Good to see you.
Our sponsor came by for some salad.
Dean came by to get some salad, some croutons, some ice water croutons.
A little bit of cranberry vinegar right on top.
Oh nice. Nice.
You put a nice vinaigrette on this salad.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, he's trying Jessica's cocktail.

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What are you drinking Jessica?
I am drinking Gentleman Jack and cranberry juice.
Gentleman Jack and cranberry juice.
I've never done whiskey with cran.
I've done vodka, cran, you know all of that, but I've never done whiskey.
You should try it.
Oh I tasted it with a straw before.
I don't taste a drink that I've never made before giving it to me.
I've got to make sure it's not poison.

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I've never made this. Is it going to be okay before I hand it to her?
I'm a tarbender. I'm professional though. I use a straw. I make sure.
I'm like oh that's good. Okay.
A girl knows what she likes.
Yeah. I'm impressed.
So you lived in Oceanside Jessica.
Yes.
Until how old were you?
I moved when I was 17. So I was there for 14 years.

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So you learned how to drive? You got your...
Nope. All about public transportation and rollerblades.
Rollerblades and public transportation in Oceanside.
You were one of the boardwalk rollerbladers.
Absolutely.
I would skate from Oceanside to Lucadia.
Vista, Carlsbad.
When did you get your driver's license to drive a car?
When I was 19.
19?

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Yes. Because I moved to Chula Vista and everything was so far away. I had no choice.
Yeah we had this conversation because Kirby also didn't get her license right away.
She was like 29.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's still not right away. But yeah.
19 is a little sooner than Kirby did.
But our daughter didn't do that right away and we were talking about it because we were all lined up at the DMV at the age of 16.

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So my girls are the same way. They started driving when they were 10.
Yeah.
Living on dirt roads. It's freaking amazing. As soon as they can reach the pedals we got them behind the wheel.
And you know there's a lot of kids that go to the desert and stuff and start whether it's on a tractor or out in the desert on quads and whatnot.
Riding quads.
Yeah.
You have kids Jessica?
I have four kids.
Four kids.
Yep. 23, 13. Actually one turns 12 tomorrow and an eight year old.

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Wow. All girls? All boys?
Three girls and the youngest is a boy.
Oh the youngest is a boy?
Yes.
Oh poor kid.
Well two of them got lucky because I only had two kids. I wanted a boy and a girl so that's why I have four because the boy came last.
Gotta keep trying. Gotta keep trying you know. You never know what's going to.
They keep life interesting.
What's going to come about.
Scouts.
So the kids.

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Scouts. What's up with the scouts?
You a scout thing?
I was a boy scout.
You were a boy scout?
My dad was a boy scout master from when I was eight until I was 12. So I did all the scout stuff. Did wet water rafting, rock climbing, canoeing, kayaking, shooting. Sucked at bows but yes I sucked at bows.
But Dean promises that he's going to teach me how to shoot properly.
Yeah I think in a couple of weeks we're going to talk about a little more about what Dean's got going on. Bows and arrows and archery and stuff.

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So the whole scouting thing you just. Did you tag along? I mean because there was. Forgive me if I'm getting the dates all wrong and stuff like that but there was this period.
That was recent.
That was very recently. So that was pre. That was after you were in the scouts.
Yes.
But you. So you just. How did that work? Did you tag along or would you. How did that work?
Well I kind of had no choice because I lived with my dad and my brother. My dad was a boy scout master so whenever he went anywhere I had to go with him.

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At the time it was very adamant that females could not be in the boy scouts. So I became the troops mascot pretty much.
Yeah.
It really made the boys upset because they couldn't do anything on their own until they got the merit badge whereas this little girl got to do whatever she wanted.
She got to do it every once. Because she wasn't beholden to the badge.
She was not.
She was not the holden to the badge.
Beholden.

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That's pretty cool.
Javis were you a scout ever?
No. No I never did the boy scouts.
I was a cub scout for about two weeks.
My sister. My sister did the brownie thing. She was a brownie.
Yeah. Brownie girls. That's girl scouts. Yeah.
Yeah my oldest was a girl scout. She absolutely hated it but she pestered me for four years before I finally put her in a troop.
She was in for 30 days and she's like mom I don't like this anymore.

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No no. You wanted this for four years. You're going to stick in at least a year.
I was a campfire girl till after I graduated from high school.
From the time I was five. I was.
Not a girl scout. Not a girl scout.
I remember a dirty joke when I was probably in the fifth or sixth grade from one of my buddies that was in the boy scouts.

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He said when does a oh he said when does a cub scout become a boy scout after he eats a brownie.
Oh that's terrible.
Which is not a dad joke by the way.
We usually tell dad jokes and that does not qualify.
Flag that Eric.

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So did you enjoy that whole experience.
Oh it was fantastic. Yeah. We had the goof troop.
A bunch of misfits from families that didn't know what to do with their sons and they needed to give them something to do so they all got thrown into our troop.
So we were always at least once a month we went camping.
We were always doing you know jamborees and competitions and at least every two weeks we do a car wash down the street at the local 7-Eleven because the owner of the 7-Eleven

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was the previous scout master we took over for so you know free candy.
That's kind of cool.
So yeah but so I guess and I guess I don't know how to phrase the question the right way.
Having gone through the whole boy scout experience but not having any of the expectations.
Yeah. I mean the memorabilia the all that stuff does.

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How does that make you feel. I mean who cares.
It was just a good time so fuck it we're gonna have a good time.
I actually learned a lot in the Boy Scouts.
Yeah. I learned a lot about respect.
I learned a lot about keeping an open mind.
I learned a lot about keeping my opinions to myself.
Because I was a girl with 12 boys.
That is a necessary life skill.

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Yes. Honestly it really helps with the customer service industry.
Oh I can imagine.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Imagine.
I mean now that you're the pizza place owner but when you were the slapper
did you really have to keep your mouth shut that much.
I was supposed to but I didn't.
Well now you're the boss lady so you can slap whoever you want.

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No it's actually harder now that you're the boss.
I know I got customers that come in like 20 minutes before their order is supposed to be ready
and they'll just hang out and we'll just talk. Shoot the shit.
I love it. That's cool. That's kind of fun.
That's Ramona man. Hell yeah.
Yeah do that anywhere else. No.
No. Not usually.
So you said earlier that you were wanting to get stuff to process meat right for your rabbit sausage.

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Yeah we need to talk about this.
How did you start doing that?
As every back country person knows chickens are the gateway drug.
Start with chickens.
Start with chickens.
I'm going to write that. I did not know chickens were the gateway.
So did you ever think so you were born in Chula Vista, lived in the ocean side, came to Ramona.
Did you ever think that you'd be like I'm going to be one of these backwoods country ladies that does rabbit meat.

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Actually yeah because of the Boy Scouts.
Because we were always camping out in the back country cooking what we have.
We would actually hunt for our dinners. We'd go fishing for our dinner and prep it all right there.
So it was all stuff that I already knew how to do.
And it wasn't until I started having kids and actually looking at what was in the grocery store,
where the animals came from, how the produce was treated and how it was raised.
I started thinking that my family needs to eat better than this.

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So I started with chickens and then the gateway drug.
The gateway drug.
My second daughter had a sensitivity to cow's milk.
So I went up getting goats and milking goats specifically for her.
So I started with the goats milk. A friend of mine gifted me three pigs.
I processed two of them. One I still have. He's seven years old now.
He's my rabbit guardian actually.

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I switched to rabbits as opposed to chicken because rabbits breed a lot more prolifically.
True.
There's no fat in rabbits, right?
There's no fat. They're really lean. They're really high in protein.
Really low in cholesterol. And they're super soft.
All of my animals are handled since birth. They're all loved. They're all treated like family.
And we respect all of them.

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And it's actually taught the kids a lot about respect.
Yeah, I can imagine.
That's amazing. Do your kids now help you process?
No, but they help me cook. And they help me feed and take care of the animals.
Yeah, but those are great life lessons for them too. That's pretty cool.
I actually find joy in having friends come over while I'm processing.
Of course they do.
And I tell them what I'm doing. And I say, okay, keep your friends on the other side.

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And they will purposely walk their friends past me while I'm butchering a pig.
To show her mom how freaking tough mom is.
Yep, that's my mom.
Yeah, most people say be afraid of daddy. He's got a gun. No, mommy's got a knife.
A little more serious.
They say, that pig tucked out a turn.
Wee, wee, wee, all the way home.

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Oh no, not the little piggies.
All the little piggies.
Goodness.
Hey, you know what? Happy food is good food.
I agree with that. I've always admired.
I'm definitely a carnivore. And I know where my food comes from.
But obviously I don't have the property for it if I wanted to.
But I can appreciate those that take that hands-on approach to their food.

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Well, there's a select few of us too that make it our mission in life to teach most of the people that your food does not grow on a tree behind the grocery store.
Yeah.
And that's one thing about living in this town at least. I have friends that do that, right?
And there's farm stands and all kinds of places where I can buy my food that I know where it came from.
We can definitely get some organic food from a place called Ramona Family Naturals.

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Miss Victoria. Oh yeah, you got your own button.
Actually, the other thing I love about this little town is we have a fantastic lost trade called the barter system.
So speaking about a green produce, I don't have a green thumb. I actually have a black thumb.
I kill all plants, but I grow meat very well.
Well, my friend at Little Patch of Heaven, Christy Bean, grows produce.

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So I would trade raw goat's milk because she doesn't have time to milk goats.
I used to buy chickens from her.
And I would trade for produce for her. So it worked out beautifully.
That's fantastic.
Yeah, she had chickens for a while, but I was getting chickens and some produce.
So yeah, she's got a great little setup there.
We have goats. I have goats. Me and Kirby have goats, but we don't do anything with them.
They just hang out. They're our pets. Keep the yard clean.

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Keep the yard clean.
I kind of bug us a little bit.
They're great weed-whackers.
Yeah, they're good weed-whackers. Yeah, the whole area around the house is nice and just dirt.
Every spring I let it go because I have babies bouncing around the yard.
Hey, if you fed a goat beer, like one of the ones that you milk,
if you fed it alcohol or beer or something like that, would it come out in milk?

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Would you get goat milk?
Does...
Liquor.
Here's a true question. Having been a mother myself, does the beer actually help the goats lactate more?
Yes.
Like it does with humans, right?
Oh, yeah.
It's a thing.
Oh, that's a thing?
Yes. For humans, it helps your milk wet there.
It does. It relaxes you.

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Yeah.
See, everybody has learned something on this show today.
We said we were not an educational show.
Hey, last episode we had to learn...
I think everybody learned something.
We had to hear about how hair spritzers and condition... I don't know what it was.
The girls went down this little rabbit hole for a minute.
Yeah.
We had to mute them.
Keri and Cassie were on the hair thing.
That's everybody's favorite line is, I'm just going to have to mute you.

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I'm just going to mute you.
I actually have a dirty little secret, which has actually become a running joke
on most of the farming pages on Facebook with me,
is that I take a non-traditional approach when it comes to processing.
I don't shoot my animals. I get them drunk.
I get them blackout drunk and they die with a smile on their face.
That's brilliant.
Yeah. They don't feel a thing.
That is brilliant. So you just get them...
Well, and I'm going to...

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They're like...
Well, and speaking of processing though, too, I mean...
That's got to make the meat delicious.
That probably actually helps with the processing itself, right?
It's pre-marinated meat.
It's actually what I call it.
I'm only buying meat from Jessica from now on because I like a little buzz.
It's marinated from the inside out.
Nice and tender.

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That's why the last time I ate...
But the joke is, because with my pigs, instead of just pouring it in a dish
because they'll spill it everywhere, I make jello shots.
So the joke is, don't ever go to Jessica's house and don't jello shots.
Oh, that's funny.
I know, I'm like...
You make jello shots.
Yeah. They're not raspberry.
No, they're hibiscus. And they're freaking delicious.
Boy, those pigs are bouged out.

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I got to try that sausage, too.
I don't know. I'm worried if she ever brings us hibiscus jello shots,
we maybe should think about going home.
If she's offering you shots, she's probably thinking about processing you.
That's my point.
Like, sleep with one eye open, my friend.
Luckily, I liken humans to raccoons, trash pandas,

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and I would not eat half the humans on this planet.
No, no, no.
No, I wouldn't eat her now.
I think we're the one species that intentionally starts...
I'm like, wait, she said half.
There's one way back in the far.
I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on.
There's only half that she wouldn't eat.
There's been a few where I considered beating jello shots
and digging a hole somewhere, but I wouldn't eat them.

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Well, I like you guys, though, so you're safe.
Oh, we're safe.
I mean, lobsters, right? They're trash pandas, too, honestly.
They're like the cockroach of the sea, right?
Yes, they are.
But they're delicious.
Delicious, right?
Maybe that's why only half the people don't taste delicious.
Right?

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Well, catfish, same thing, bottom-feeders.
Catfish, yeah.
Yeah, catfish taste muddy, though.
Yeah.
You got to fry it.
You got to get the right catfish that's cooked right.
Oh, my goodness.
Put it in a stew, catfish stew.
A stew.
Or you can put anything in a stew.
Put anything in a stew.
I just like them fried with a lot of vinegar.
It's got to be a cornbread.

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Let's listen to some tunes, man.
Let's see.
What do you got going on here?
We got a new song by Michael Dean Goodrich, one of our locals.
Let's get a little Michael Dean Goodrich.
Let's hear it.
What's it called?
Stand Our Ground.
Stand Our Ground.
It's the first time that I've traveled

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To see the shining sea
I see the beauty of this great big land
That's raised both you and me
At times they are a-changing
The devil's in our homes
I think it's time we come together
And finally stand our ground

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I will stand up proud for the stars and stripes
Cause freedom don't come free
And I will bow my head in his amazing grace
Let old glory fly for all to see
Big cities to our town
God bless the U.S.A.

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We'll stand our ground
Now there's a different war we're fighting
That is coming from within
They're working hard at dividing us
But we cannot let them win
Listen to what you've been told

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Cause the media's just a game
We've had enough, we'll call their bluff
And they'll all go down in flames

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We've made a life for our children
Damn sure worth fighting for
The sacrifice those that died with honor
For senseless foreign wars
We've got to work together
For the country that we love

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And let those politicians know
We the people stand as one

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And I will bow my head in God's amazing grace

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I feel tears welling up, calling deep inside
Like my heart's sprung up in grief
And the stab I'm blowing is sharp and painful
That I may never shake
You might say that I was taking it hard
Since you wrote me off with a call
But don't you wager that I'll hide the sorrow

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When I may break right down and bow
Now the race is on and here comes pride at the backstrips
Heartaches are going to the inside
My tears are holding back
They're trying not to fall
My heart's out of the running
I'm scratched for another's sake

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The race is on and it looks like heartaches
And the weather loses all
One day I ventured in love

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Never once suspecting
What the final result would be
How I lived in fear
Awaking up each morning
And finding that you'd gone from me
There's aching and pain
And my heart for the day
Was the one that I hated to face
Somebody new came up to win her
And I came out in second place

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Now the race is on
And here comes pride at the backstrips
Heartaches are going to the inside
My tears are holding back
They're trying not to fall
My heart's out of the running
I'm scratched for another's sake
The race is on and it looks like heartaches

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And the weather loses all
Alright, I think we're back. We are back.
We're back. We're hanging out with Jessica.
We got yapping and chapping and we almost missed our break.
Yapping and chapping and thinking and drinking, smoking and joking.
All kinds of the stuff.
Joking and whatnot.
Ow, man. I almost burned myself.

(48:24):
It is a Whiskey Sunday.
Oh, man. It's always a Whiskey Sunday here at the Ramona Studios.
Here on Ramona Radio.
By the way, you're listening to the Travis Billy Rosselli Country Show.
And I hope you guys are having a good Sunday.
We sure are.
Oh, man. So just a reminder, April 13th, 50th episode.

(48:46):
Don't forget, write it down on your calendar, everybody.
You guys are going to come out to that. It's going to be awesome.
And I think we're going to try to talk Jessica Frankenberger
into maybe catering some pizzas for us that day as well.
I'll think about it.
She's like, now, do you want me to be a guest or do you want me to cater?
I can't do both.
I need you to do both.
She's going to be the caterer and then she's going to be on the show for maybe 10, 15 minutes.

(49:08):
I'll accept Whiskey's tips.
Details will be forthcoming.
Whiskey will be flowing.
It's going to be awesome.
Man, looking forward to that.
It'll be a good day.
Never catered an event and actually stayed and ate my own food.
That'd be weird.
Well, there you go.
I'm pretty sure Dean Outlaw BBQ is going to be there too.

(49:29):
So we'll have barbecue and some pizza.
Maybe you guys can collaborate and do a barbecue pizza.
Oh, what?
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
We've got some super secret things in the works.
Give Travis a barbecue rabbit pizza.
Give me a side eye.
Like I'm trying to show that guy should show you up right now.
A drunken barbecue rabbit pizza.

(49:51):
We've been in discussion.
Oh, man.
OK, that's going to be freaking awesome.
I'm looking forward to that.
Actually, I'm talking to him about making my barbecue sauces for my pizza.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Trying to get everything.
So you're trying to do like a barbecue style pizza.
I'm trying to do everything in the restaurant fresh.
Yeah.
No store bought.
So that's the fresh sauces, fresh meats.
I like this partnership.

(50:12):
Yes, I really do.
So come in the season, I'll be making my own pesto sauce.
I'll be making my own Alfredo sauce.
I'll have him making my barbecue sauce.
He's got a few for me to try.
We're getting the ins here.
We're getting the ins.
We're getting the ins.
Ins and the ins.
Right?
Oh, yeah.
So we'll be able to go to the store and go into the store in order of Dean's Outlaw pizza with Dean's BBQ Outlaw.

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That's the plan.
That's the plan.
That's the plan.
All right.
You're going to keep us, you're going to keep us apprised of any details, right?
Exactly.
All right.
Dean's Outlaw pizza.
With rabbit.
With rabbit.
With rabbit.
Jessica rabbit.
Jessica rabbit.
It's a healthy pizza.
Exactly.
That's one of the humans that you can eat.
Jessica's rabbit.
Jessica's rabbit.

(50:57):
Pay now.
Pay now.
Easy.
Oh, my gosh.
We're coming up towards the end of her time with us because she keeps telling us she's
got stuff to do.
Jessica's got to go make pizzas.
She's got some orders for tomorrow.
We have a couple of minutes yet though.
This is one of the hardest work I've ever met.
There's one question that we ask our guests always.
So Travis, you're behind the eight ball on this one and we cannot let her go until she

(51:19):
answers the question.
Okay.
All right.
So my opinion of the king of country is not George straight.
It's Hank Williams.
Who would yours be?
See, I really don't so much have a king of country, but I have a queen of country.
Queen.
Dolly Parton.
All right.
That's acceptable.
That's like unanimous.
Going on like the.
Yeah.
Yeah.

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I think we've only had one or two dissenters and it wasn't even dissension.
It was like where people thought of June or Loretta or.
June, Loretta or Dolly.
It's mostly Dolly.
I would say 90% Dolly would have to do a.
My second is Reba.
Number check on that.
Oh, Reba.
I haven't heard Reba, but I like Reba.
Okay.
Reba.
Which one?
What song?
What's your favorite Reba song?

(52:01):
What's the what's the one that makes you like Reba?
Here's your one chance.
Fancy.
Don't let me down.
I like that one.
I do like that one.
I like that one.
I like that one.
The night's light went out in Georgia.
Oh, yeah.
You know, that actually wasn't Reba that did that one or that wrote that.
Neither did Fancy.
It's a remake.
Yeah.
All right.
Never mind.

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Yeah.
When it comes to names and songs, I'm horrible at remembering, but I love good music.
I love good sounds.
Yeah.
I'm the reporter of the music scene here in Ramona.
It's like every band up here I love for a different reason.
Yeah.
Like I love you guys because you're fun and you're exciting.
I love Chloe for her voice.
I love Thea for her presence.
Ashley and David Pennick when they're together, they're like the power teenage couple.

(52:47):
They're hysterical together.
They're funny.
They are funny.
Are they not fun live?
Oh my gosh.
They're amazing.
They feed off each other's energy and jump on tables.
Dash.
Dash.
Dash.
So when me and Ashley play together sometimes we're called trash.
Travis and Ashley are trash.
I think that's a... We got to make something happen there.

(53:10):
We just do.
So I'm going to tell you all this real quick as a secret.
Don't tell anybody, but by the end of this year, me and Thea are collaborating.
Oh my gosh.
I've heard some scuttlebutt about this.
We are collaborating on a song.
I'm not going to tell you the name of it or even what it's about, but we are working on
a song together and it's going to come out probably in the next couple of months.

(53:34):
It's going to be awesome.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
So it's almost finished.
It's a secret.
Do you have studio time?
No.
We're still in the process of writing.
So fun story.
Me and... I had a little camp out at my house a couple weeks ago and Thea came out, Jeff
came out, and we camped out and we were having some fun with some hunting equipment anyway.

(54:02):
There were some rascals you were trying to...
Some rascals.
We were trying to wrangle all that.
No, but yeah, we had a good time and we were working on a little bit more.
Yeah, I'm projecting probably middle of the year.
It'll be great.
Awesome.
Middle of 2025.
We got to do it.
It's going to be a good time.
Well, we're out of time with Jessica.
Jessica, how do we get a hold of you?

(54:25):
Hours, address, phone number, website, social media.
Give us all the 411.
How do I order a pizza?
What's an order?
Order a pizza.
There's so many questions at once.
Open Wednesday through Sunday from 4 to when I feel like closing.
Usually it's between 8 and 10, depending on how slow it is or how busy it is.
Address is 632 Main Street in between Ramona Cafe and Palmu Winery.

(54:49):
The website is currently down so I can actually force customers to call in so I can give them
the updated details as far as the ownership is concerned.
And the name change is going to go from Mama Ramona's, just Mama's Pizzeria.
Oh, that's breaking news.
It's going to be a shift.
That's kind of cool.
So it's going to be Mama's Pizzeria?
Mama's Pizzeria.
Okay.
Okay, there is one more piece of information we need before you leave us though for sure.

(55:10):
The secret recipe for your crust.
It is love.
Hey, you know, I thought it was worth a shot.
It's love.
That's the best.
The absolute, like, maybe in my life, like, in my life, the best.
That crust is so good.
Every time I see her I'm like, I love your crust.
See, that's the...
I love your crust.
I love your crust.
If you didn't know she made pizza that would sound really weird.

(55:31):
I love your crust.
Right.
She's a fine crust maker.
And don't forget y'all on Wednesdays, tell us about that deal.
Yeah.
Every Wednesday.
Every Wednesday.
Pamu and Mama's collaborate and we do a wine and dine Wednesday so you can get a bottle
and a 12 inch cheese or pepperoni pizza for $35 or you can get a glass and a slice for

(55:53):
$10.
That's awesome.
From four to six.
That's awesome.
So if somebody's having wine on the Pamu patio or in their tasting room, you bring the pizza
right over to them.
I do.
What service.
Hey, if you're just walking down Main Street, do you guys sell pizza by the slice?
No, only on Wednesdays.
On Wednesdays.
On the Sundays where we do the Blues Jam.
Oh yeah.

(56:14):
I do slices that those days.
Yeah, there's a Blues Jam there.
Yes.
Once a month, right?
Once a month.
Is it the first or the last Sunday of the month?
Last.
Last Sunday of the month.
Okay, cool.
You get slices there on Sundays.
Last Sunday of the month.
With the Blues Jam with John Haas.
Only cheese or pepperoni.
Don't ask me sort of things like funky ricotta or pineapple.
Oh yeah.
Everything?
Only cheese or pepperoni.

(56:34):
You'll get only.
I want pizza with every ingredient you have.
Can I have half my slice with pepperoni and half the slice with sausage?
Anchovies.
You get anchovies.
He's like, I will stab you.
I will stab you.
I will give you a jello shot and process you.
You know, you keep it up.
I'm going to pull out those ghost peppers that I have in the back.
I know I'm going to remind you, she only said half the population.

(56:56):
Yeah, yeah.
There's another half that still needs to talk really sweet to her.
Hopefully I'll omit that other half.
I'm like, I don't know.
Are we poisoning ourselves enough here tonight?
I'm not sure.
Well, shoot, Jessica, thank you so much for hanging out with us, ma'am.
I've been bugging this chick to come and be on my show for a while.
For months.
And she's always been like, no, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't.

(57:18):
And then I was like, today, I was like, you have to.
She's like.
It's the law.
And then I send her the address.
I send her the fucking food.
I'm like, we're going to have food.
We're going to have everything.
So I'll see you there.
She's like, you're not going to let me not do this, are you?
I'm like, nope.
So here she is, y'all.
Are you satisfied now?
Absolutely.
I'm satisfied now.
I'm sad as fuck.
I'm mad at you, Jessica.
You're a sweetheart.
One of my good friends, Jessica Frankenberger, we appreciate you.

(57:39):
Thank you so much for coming on the Travis Billy Ross Alla country show.
And order Mama Ramona's pizza.
Soon to be just.
Give me a phone number one more time.
760-520-0244.
0244.
I will not answer the phone at 3.59.
It's got to be after four o'clock.
You're too busy prepping.
You're prepping at 3.59.
I will look at the phone and say no.

(58:03):
Fair enough.
Anyway, thanks for coming in.
We love you.
Thank you so much.
We appreciate you.
Thank you for being annoyingly loving friends.
I appreciate it.
And a special surprise after the break.
Annoyingly lovingly friends.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I think we have a special surprise after the break.
We'll see what we can do after the break.

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Well, my name's John Lee Pettymore.

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Same as my daddy and his daddy moved forward.
You hardly ever saw a friend, daddy down here.
They only come to town about twice a year.
They'd buy a hundred pounds of yeast and some copper lime.

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Nobody knew it had made me shine.
I'm a revenue man on a granddaddy bed.
He'd let me holler at everything I had.
For my time, I've been told,
I'll never come back from Copperhead Road.

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I had a natter and whiskey and a big black dot.
I bought it at an auction at the Mason's Lodge.
Johnson County Sheriff painted on the side.
They just shot a coat of primer and looked inside.

(01:04:34):
Well, in the mouth of the toilet engine dam,
I still remember that rumbling sound.
Then the sheriff came around in the middle of the night,
heard mama crying that something wasn't right.
He was headed down to Knoxville with a weak little load.

(01:04:56):
He could smell a whiskey burning down Copperhead Road.

(01:05:21):
I volunteered for them on my birthday.
They'd wrap a white dress for a smithy and a white.

(01:05:43):
I'd done two tours of duty in Vietnam.
I came home with a brand new plan.
I'd taken a seat from Columbia, Mexico.
I'd just planted up a holler down Copperhead Road.

(01:06:06):
Now the D.A.'s got a chopper in the air.
We got a screamer like back over there.
I learned a thing or two from Charlie, don't you know?
You'd better stay away from Copperhead Road.

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Copperhead Road.

(01:06:59):
Hellfire up, hellfire up.
My heart's on fire for hellfire up.
Eyes that look like heaven, lips like cherry wine.

(01:07:23):
That girl can sure enough make my little light shine.
I get a funny feeling up and down my spine.
Cause I know that my hellfire is mine.

(01:07:44):
Hellfire up, hellfire up.
Giddy up.

(01:08:06):
Hell silver, hell white.
Tonight I'm gonna meet her at the Hungry House Cafe.
I'm gonna give her all the love I can.

(01:08:28):
Yes I am.
She's gonna jump and holler.
Cause I've saved up my last two dollars.
We're gonna search and find that preacher man.
I'll be singing hellfire up, hellfire up.

(01:08:54):
Giddy up.
Giddy up.

(01:09:17):
Hellfire up.
Hellfire up.
Giddy up.
Giddy up.

(01:09:41):
Hellfire up.
Hellfire up.

(01:10:03):
Giddy up.
Giddy up.
Hellfire up.
Hellfire up.

(01:10:26):
Alright, we're back.
That was Jessica Frankenberger hanging out with us.
Jessica!
That was so much fun.
And the pizza lady.
I learned so much more about her and I love every minute of it.
She's adorable.
She's a cool lady.
Alright, we're going to try to do this thing.
We're going to make a phone call.
We're going to do this.
We're going to print call Steve Kerbs.
She's out in Texas right now.

(01:10:47):
Alright, do we know what we're going to do?
What are we going to do from a print call perspective?
I don't know.
What are we going to do?
We should say that this is the insurance.
No, we've been trying to get ahold of you.
About your car warranty?
One of those scam calls.
We're calling for media.
We've got you a credit card number.
I can do that.
We need to confirm your social security number.

(01:11:09):
I'm calling for Microsoft support.
We just need 100.
And for our listeners, we do have another guest that will be joining us after this call.
So Dean stopped by.
We've got all kinds of fun lined up.
He's going to be in on the call.
Alright, here we go.
Alright, here we go.
Let's see how this works.
Hold on. Let me start this here.

(01:11:30):
Hello.
Hello, this is Abdul calling for Microsoft support.
Your computer has been compromised and now we have a warrant for your arrest.
Oh shoot. I was waiting for that to happen.
What's up, sweet curve?
What's up?
Hey, hey.
Hi honey, I miss you.
Not much. I miss you guys.

(01:11:51):
How's it going?
Good.
Cassie's doing her best to fill in for you.
Yeah, not very well.
Oh, I'm sure she's doing fabulous.
No, I got my hey hey's all wrong.
Yeah, you have to give us a good hey hey.
As long as you didn't call me a hoe.
Your introductory hey hey, I got it all wrong.
You're going to have to give us one of those.
Hey hey.
There it is.

(01:12:12):
It's so natural for her.
Now we're together.
It felt so wrong.
Who's with you guys tonight?
We have Jessica Frankenberger.
Yeah.
Hello Jessica.
Hello Mr.
She's Ramona's pizza queen.
Yeah, she's floating around the back because she has to run here pretty quickly.
We also had our sponsor Dean pop in so he'll be joining us here in a little bit.

(01:12:37):
Oh, you never know who's going to stop by.
It's true.
It's true.
We got Dean.
He's got some mystery meat that we're going to try to figure out.
Hopefully it doesn't taste like jello shots.
And poor Kurt.
Why would it taste like jello shots?
What did I miss?
You're going to have to listen to the episode.
You'll have to listen to the episode.
Yeah.

(01:12:58):
Just word of warning, if Jessica ever offers you a jello shot, just ask her which 50% you belong in.
Yeah, there you go.
I mean, I like jello shots.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, actually, if she offers you one, you're probably in the good half.
You know what else likes jello shots?
Livestock.

(01:13:19):
Just don't have one in her house.
In the backyard alone at night.
Yeah.
And pigs.
Pigs like jello shots.
We can give them to the goats.
I know.
Speaking of goats.
Goat.
No, goat.
Or Titan when he's barking.
All right.
So where are you at?
Texas.
Texas.

(01:13:40):
What are you doing in Texas?
Visiting my family.
My mom and my dad.
Popped out there for the holidays.
My sister and brother and niece and nephews and my brother-in-law.
Hi, family.
We're in Texas.
North Texas.
Right now, it's called Pilot Point.
Pilot Point.
That's right next to Oklahoma, yeah?
Yeah, about 45 minutes.
Okay.
All right.
Oh gosh, I wasn't that far away.
It's pretty close.

(01:14:01):
Oh, my kid went to boot camp.
Basic training.
Sorry, wrong.
He was up for a seal.
Or basic training.
For a seal.
So Sweet Curbs, do you have any Sweet Curbs' credit card?
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Here we go.
I do.
Here she is.
You do?
So my sister has two dogs.
I do.
All right.
My sister, I'll send you pictures for the website, Eric.
She was so excited.

(01:14:22):
She didn't even let me get the intro in.
Go ahead.
I'll send you pictures.
I'll send you pictures.
So my sister has two really sweet dogs, but my mom has this big, it's a Great Dane Lab
mix.
And any time anyone comes to the house, if you sit on the couch, Quill sits on top of
you and puts his whole face on your face and he won't, he doesn't move.
Oh.
He won't get up.
Like you're captive, you're stuck there.

(01:14:44):
He just is the biggest love.
I love him.
What, you said it was a dog?
Yeah, it's a Great Dane Lab mix.
Great Dane Lab.
So it's a really big, fucking lab.
Big dog.
It's a big, yeah, it's a big lab.
He's like in the, yeah, like a heavy 100 pound lab.
He thinks he's a lap dog.
Yeah, he gets on the couch right next to you and he just, he sits, like he sits, but he

(01:15:04):
puts his entire face and head on your face.
He just stares at you and goes, okay, kiss me.
No, he like lays it, lays it against your face.
Oh.
And he, he doesn't move.
So he's like nuzzling you.
Oh, I love that.
He's a love, yeah.
I love bug dogs.
Oh, I love that.
Love bug dogs.
I love, love bug dogs.
My sister's dogs are crazy.
I love, love bug dogs.
That's, I think that's what I was trying to say.

(01:15:24):
Love bug dogs?
Yeah.
So, he curves.
Was there any flight delays or anything like that going on, on the way out to Tegus?
I had a very flight delay, about 20, 20 minutes, just cause there was a storm going through
Texas.
When we were supposed to take off, so they were trying to let it pass, but that was it.
Oh, okay.
When are you back?
We miss you.

(01:15:45):
Oh, good.
Stop playing around.
Today's January 5th.
Yeah.
So she's home very, very soon.
She'll be back.
She'll be back.
So, what airport are you flying out of?
I will tell you a tip for flying.
What's that?
Oh yeah, a tip for flying.
I'm DFW Lovefield.
You got to go to Mia's Tacos in Dallas.
You got to stop by there.
Get a brisket taco.
Mia's Tacos?
Mia's.
It's a brisket taco.

(01:16:06):
You've got to try it.
A brisket taco?
That sounds amazing.
Best freaking taco I've had in my life.
Sounds very good.
So, sweet curves.
There's always a big line.
What's your tip for flying Southwest?
Oh, well, just flying in general.
I follow this lady that's a flight attendant and she said, if you ever want to get on the
good side of the flight attendants and get free drinks, bring them presents.

(01:16:26):
What?
So, I, on my way to the airport, I stopped and got a big bag of Kit Kats, like individually
wrapped mini Kit Kats.
Did it work?
And so, I walk on the plane and I hand it to the lady and I said, thank you guys so
much.
This is for you all.
Go to my seat and sit down.
Entire plane boards.
The lady gets on the loud intercom and says, with the passenger that gave us the chocolates,

(01:16:49):
please wave.
What?
So, I waved.
They all came by and told me thank you individually.
And then I ordered a cocktail and at the end of the flight, that gentleman came up to me
and goes, I just want to say again, thank you so much.
I took care of your drink for you.
Oh, stop it.
All for a bag of Kit Kats.
That's rad.
See?
If you want to get in with the flight attendants, bring them a gift.

(01:17:11):
I'm going to travel with a bag of meat.
They appreciate it.
I know.
And they deserve it.
They work so hard.
Right?
They do.
And I've heard Starbucks gift cards are also magic with flight attendants.
I did some research myself.
I've never heard of that.
All right.
So an $8 bag of Kit Kats will get you a $6 drink.
I love it.
The captain probably sees none of it.
You know what?
That's true.

(01:17:31):
You don't get none of it.
I don't know.
I remember the last time you paid for a drink at a flight TBR, but I think that drink might
be eight bucks or more.
Is it Southwest?
I think six bucks.
I don't know.
What is it?
For a beer.
It was nine bucks.
Nine bucks.
All right.
So you're up a dollar.
You're up a dollar.
And it's not too much.
What's the other brand?
It's the brand they do at the barn.
What is it?
Sky?

(01:17:52):
Deep Eddie's.
Deep Eddie's.
I don't know that one.
Oh, yeah.
That's what they serve at Southwest.
I'm just, I am just so, I'm mesmerized by the fact that you took the time to go by the
grocery store to go buy those Kit Kats to prove this theory.
So I got one.
No, we stopped and they got one.
And Travis said, are you getting snacks for the plane?
I said, no, I'm testing this.
This is scientifically proven.

(01:18:13):
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
This is scientific research.
And it worked.
I called it when we landed and I said, just so you know, it worked.
Got free booze for some Kit Kats.
I love it.
And they probably walked up to me.
I'm not exaggerating.
Four or five times in the flight and just said, I just want to make sure you're doing

(01:18:35):
okay.
There's nothing we can get for you.
That's awesome.
Just me like walked past everyone else on the aisle.
It's tough.
I'm a little chilly.
Do you have a blanket?
Did they give you a pillow, a warm cloth?
A hot towel?
Maybe some more nuts?
Handy.
You can't serve nuts on a plane anymore, I don't think.
You can serve cashews, I think is what it is.
Cashews, just not peanuts.
Is cashews a safe nut?
Anything but peanuts?
Yeah, I think it might be qualified as a seed.
Practice safe nutting.
We're going to go down a whole rabbit hole of seeds and nuts.

(01:19:00):
Sweet Curbs, you're a safe nut.
Well, that's because I don't have nuts, so that works out.
All right, Sweet Curbs, well, I hope you're having a good time out there in Texas with

(01:19:26):
your family.
Tell your mom and dad to say hello.
I will.
My dad said hi to Cassie and Eric earlier that he thought it was you.
I said hi, Dad.
We're going to expect more Texas stories when you return, my friend.
Oh, I got a few, don't you worry.
I bet you do.
Texas is always good for a story or two.

(01:19:46):
Oh, I know you've got nephews and stuff in there.
Any good whiskey?
I know the one of you, you could have got him on the phone, but he's in bed.
Yeah, we got a little late running here.
After 10 o'clock here.
Any good whiskey that the brother-in-law...
TX bourbon.
That is my son's absolute favorite.
That's what I was drinking last night.
I have to smuggle it back every time I go to Texas or if he flies to Texas, we bring

(01:20:10):
bottles back for my oldest.
We have a whiskey tasting event coming up with friends and I'm trying to figure out
how to get it home.
Put it in your suitcase and check it.
I'll pay the baggage fee if you...
I don't want to check a bag.
Well, no, it's not as much as free.
Well, then check your bag.
We're going to have this whole conversation on the air right now.
I want to see if that new liquor store will get it.
Here's what I'll do.
I'll have Eric fly over there and then he can fly back.

(01:20:30):
There you go.
Perfect.
I'll be in Texas in a couple of weeks.
I'm just saying that...
I'll make it worth your while if you throw two bottles in there.
All right, sweet curves.
I'll bring one home.
I'll figure it out.
All right, guys.
Have fun.
Miss you guys.
We miss you.
We love you, sweet curves.
All right.
Love you, babe.

(01:20:51):
I love you too, sweet curves.
Bye.
All right.
Have fun, guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Oh, man.
Wow.
Sweet curves.
We reached out and touched it.
That used to be a slogan.
It used to be AT&T, that you reach out and touch someone.
We reached out and touched someone.
Eric, I love your accent.
My accent?
That was good.
Thank you very much.
So every time we get a scam call from now on, we go, is this Eric?

(01:21:12):
Have I not told you about all the voices my husband has?
Yeah.
I don't want to hear about it.
I just want to know if I could use your restroom.
I walked into the wrong room and there was like this leather suit and chains and hand
subs.
We don't talk about the safe room.
Oh, those things.
All right, Dean.
We always ask everybody's consent first.
It's fine.
You asked permission.

(01:21:33):
I said, yeah, go ahead.
That's true.
That's true.
I just went in the wrong room.
That swing is cool.
Or did you go into the right room?
Or did you go into the right room, Dean?
Maybe.
That swing is awesome.
I've never taken 45 minutes to use the restroom.
That swing is pretty cool.
All right.
So Dean brought us some mystery.
Is that sausage?

(01:21:54):
It's summer sausage.
Summer sausage.
Some are there, some are not.
Some is good.
Some is bad.
Some is hot.
Some is cold.
Summer sausage.
Summer.
Tell me about it.
Did everybody try some?
I did.
So we're going to play a game called name that meat.
You got to name what that meat is.
This looks pretty good.
Right.
I need to try a little bit more.
Did Jessica help make it?
She did not.
Okay.

(01:22:15):
So it's no jello shots involved.
No jello shots involved.
No, there were shots, but no jello shots.
That qualifies.
What kind of jello would be normally used?
Like the lime or the...
I'm tasting lime.
No lime.
She told us it was hibiscus.
Oh, hibiscus, that's right.
It's boar.
There's going to be some boar in there.

(01:22:36):
Yeah, I had boar.
Because I know Dean has pork for sure.
That's probably a safe guess.
You all guessed it.
Oh, we did?
Yeah, it's wild boar.
Wild boar.
Yeah, when we were...
The first time I tasted it, because I'll be honest, this is my second piece.
I'm getting wild boar, but is there something else?
But it's not gamey at all.
No.
We didn't even put brisket in it, which I usually do.

(01:22:57):
So Dr. Odell made this batch.
I took him hunting a couple weeks ago.
I'm glad it's not Dr. Odell in that sausage.
It's not Dr. Odell, is it?
No, it's not Dr. Odell.
I haven't seen him in a while.
He's still around.
He's still around.
Jessica Rabbit saw him today.
I was like, I think Jessica had a chiropractor appointment today, so of course she could come here.
Yeah, and it was the actual doctor, right?
Yes, it was.

(01:23:18):
Yeah, so it's not him in the sausage.
It wasn't Dean in there pretending to be Dr. Odell?
No.
This summer sausage Dr. Odell made, and it is his first hog.
We shot it out of a vineyard in Paso Robles.
Oh, yeah.
Eating grapes and barley.
And it was the best pork I've ever had in my life.

(01:23:39):
Better than any homegrown anything I've ever had.
Yeah, that's pretty damn good, man.
There's some good grapes in Paso.
They make good wine.
They make very good wine.
Yes, they do.
Yep, as we learned in my first episode where we didn't shoot anything but came home with cases of wine.
That's right.
I was kind of laughing earlier, and I was like, I think Dean's going to be our most repeat guest.

(01:24:03):
I think he is.
I'll leave if you want me to.
No.
No, I just let it, because I'm like, oh, look, it's Dean.
I feel like anybody that comes into the studio is welcome.
And we throw them on the mic.
And I'm like, look at that.
I bring meat wherever I go.
Man, that's delicious.
That was really good.
Yeah, it's good with mustard.
Are you going to have that at your next thing?
No, I've only got four cooks this month, and I'm doing a whole bunch of wild boar.

(01:24:27):
I'm doing a wild boar bolognese bake.
I'm doing a wild boar green chili stew over homemade biscuits or cornbread.
Oh, shite.
And we're doing another wild boar dish that I don't remember.
You said all of my favorite things in like three seconds.
Yeah, it's starting to sound like Valentine's Hallmark card to her, you know?
Yeah.

(01:24:48):
Back off, back off.
Great.
She does like my meat.
I like Dean's meat just because I'm drooling.
You know who always says that?
Who?
You do?
Me?
No, not you.
Oh, but he does.
But he does.
He makes every guess.

(01:25:09):
Tell them if they've had Dean's meat in their mouth.
We love Dean's meat.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Dean was on the show on episode 15.
We're now on episode 36.
Damn.
That means we've done twice as many episodes after Dean as we leading up to Dean.
Right in the middle.
There's a fun little stupid fun fact that nobody gives a shit about.

(01:25:34):
But it's so cool this radio show has taken off.
I mean, we're talking about the 50th podcast.
We're planning for the 50th.
Yeah.
Yes.
April 13th, bro.
That's amazing.
I think everything still has to be confirmed and locked up.
But some of the brainstorming that's going on, Cassie, what's some of the brainstorming?
We're starting to get really excited about this.

(01:25:55):
I hesitate to spill beans before we've actually locked up real stuff.
This idea.
Brain start.
Brain start.
We absolutely do want to have all of our guests.
And guests can be prepared because they will be getting a communication from me asking for their sizes.
They will be having t-shirts with their episode number on them.
Right.

(01:26:16):
That's awesome.
That'll be fun.
Guests are going to come and join Travis throughout the day.
We've talked about potentially having dirty confetti there.
Obviously, we want all of our sponsors to have a presence.
Dean and Victoria Ramona Family Naturals and Jennifer from Pamo.
So I need to discuss some of this with Albert, the owner of Julian Station, who also was a guest.

(01:26:39):
So it's just going to be a fun day.
We're hoping for noon till when it's done.
But again, it's a little bit of conjecture at this point.
Noon till midnight.
A little bit of conjecture at this point because we do need to lock down actual details.
Right.
Before we can put all this out there.
It's going to be a blast.
It's a brainstorm.
We're going to party.
Now that you've forced me to start talking about some of the things that are happening.

(01:27:02):
Let's talk about it.
It's not promising.
It's not promising.
But if it does happen, I will give away free barbecue for a donation to my buddy's Purple Heart organization.
What?
If you show up, I will give you free barbecue if you make a donation to the organization.
And what's the organization?
That's so cool.
I got to be honest, I don't know the name of it because he was part of a nonprofit before and he broke off to do his own.

(01:27:25):
But it's like for better.
There is a bit of a rumor.
It's for Purple Heart.
He takes other injured vets that have had their limbs blown off and crazy stories.
And he takes them hunting and doing outdoor stuff.
In fact, Caleb and I are starting a Ramona archers club.
He donated his property to me.
I bought $2,000 worth of targets and we're going to start teaching archery in Ramona.
I've got Bruce.
I've got Bruce from Ramona Boch or from Lakeside Bo Shop coming up.

(01:27:49):
He's going to help us out and just talk to people about because I can shoot a bow, but I can teach you the basics.
But I went in and Bruce is like, what the hell are you doing?
Hold your bow like this.
There's a rumor we might be able to get Caleb on here within the next month or so.
So stay tuned.
Caleb owns the property.
We will get more information about his property and his nonprofit.

(01:28:13):
It's between Warnock and Hanson.
Oh, that's central.
So on the south side of town.
Yeah.
But he's got five acres and he's going to donate part of that to my archery range.
And my hope is to teach kids, women, anybody that wants to learn to shoot a bow, I'll give you the basics.
Alonia bows.
I bought two thousand dollars with targets and a bunch of other bows.
And we're just we want to get you into the sport.

(01:28:35):
And again, I'm no professional, but we've got, like I said, Bruce from the bow shop coming up.
We've got the people from Vortex, from Loophold, from the man who's not a professional is feeding us meat.
So I'm not a professional archer.
I'm a professional barbecue guy only because I've won money.
I think I think you've also shot a lot of your meat and some of it.

(01:28:59):
Have you ever shot your meat with bow?
Yeah.
This is the first one I've shot with a rifle.
I archery hunt almost 99 percent of the time.
I think he just made my point.
If you've ever had my you know, you know that it comes off my ranch in Montana.
It comes off local butchers and it comes from things I hunt.

(01:29:20):
So we have a new archery club coming to town.
That's killer.
And we're starting to get engaged with this new charity, this Purple Heart Charity.
I'm so stoked.
The stories are going to be amazing.
Oh, dude, that's going to be awesome.
We've got Mike Rios coming on in February and his story brought me to tears.
Amazing.
I have a hunting lease up in Mesa Grande and I took him up for turkey and he got one.

(01:29:44):
And it was another perfect plan.
Just like Dr. Odell's.
I herded the turkeys and just kind of pushed them towards him and he harvested first animal ever.
Mike Rios, who's not a beginner hunter like me, knocked down his turkey and almost took a double.
Wow.
Nice.
All right.
Let's listen to some tunes.
Let's talk about a hunting song.

(01:30:06):
Let's listen to Hank Williams Jr.
Hank Jr.
Hank Jr.
Country boy can survive.
It depends on the money.
There's also hunting, living, fishing every day.
Fishing, hunting.
There are absolutely a lot of great fishing songs.
Oh, yeah.
Let's listen to some Bocephus.
Country boy can survive.
The preacher man says it's the end of time and the Mississippi River, she's a gold drive.

(01:30:44):
The interest is up and the stock market's down and you're only getting mugged if you go downtown.
I live back in the woods, you see.
A woman and the kids and the dogs and me.

(01:31:06):
I got a shotgun, a rifle and a four wheel drive and a country boy can survive.
Country folks can survive.
I can plow a field all day long.
I can catch catfish from dusk till dawn.

(01:31:32):
I can make our own whiskey and our own smoke too, ain't too many things these old boys can't do.
We grow good old tomatoes and homemade wine and country boy can survive.

(01:31:57):
Because you can't start us out and you can't make us run, those woods and old boys raise own shotguns.
We say grace and we say ma'am, if you ain't into that, we don't give a damn.
We came from the West Virginia coal mines and the rocky mountains and the western skies.

(01:32:26):
And we can skin a buck, we can run a trot line and a country boy can survive.
I had a good friend in New York City. He never called me by my name, just Hillbilly.

(01:32:51):
My grandpa taught me how to live off the land and he has taught him to be a business man.
He used to send me pictures of the gruff way nights and I'd send him some homemade wine.

(01:33:13):
But he was killed by a man with a switchblade knife for forty-three dollars, my friend lost his life.
I'd love to spit some beach nut in that dude's eyes and shoot him with my old forty-five, cause a country boy can survive.

(01:33:34):
Cause you can't stop us out and you can't make us run cause we're them old boys raised own shotguns.
We say grace and we say ma'am, if you ain't into that, we don't give a damn.

(01:33:59):
We're from North California and South Alabama and little towns all around this land.
We can scan a buck and run a trot line and a country boy can survive.

(01:34:24):
If you really want to know, she comes here a lot. She just loves to hear the music and dance.

(01:34:53):
K-13 is her favorite song. If you play it, you might have a chance.
Tonight she's only sipping white wine. She's friendly and fun loving most of the time.
But don't ask her on a strength to keep the night. She'll start thinking about him and she's ready to fight.

(01:35:20):
Flames her broken heart on every man's side on a straight tequila night.
Here's a glass of chivli and some quarters and change. Maybe you can turn her love life around.

(01:35:45):
Then she won't need the salt or the lime anymore to shoot that old memory down.
Just remember her heart's on the man. If you ever come back to see her again.
Don't ask her on a strength to keep the night. She'll start thinking about him and she's ready to fight.

(01:36:13):

(01:36:39):
Flames her broken heart on every man's side on a strength to keep the night.

(01:37:10):
She'll start thinking about him and she's ready to fight. Flames her broken heart on every man's side.
We're back.
We had sweet curbs on the phone with us.
That was so much fun.
She's such a sweetheart. Did you miss her?
I love that she comes home too with all of these stories. Her nephew's stories are the absolute best.

(01:37:34):
You know, I'm a professional pilot and I've never heard this legend of basically, what's it called, a bribing?
I've never heard of bribing either.
I've never heard of bribing either.
I thought it was kind of cool.
We actually talked about that before our long haul journey last summer to Germany because I was like, I'm thinking of taking gifts with a biker.

(01:37:55):
Sounds like you need to get a bag of jelly beans, some chocolate, some fricking gummy bears or something.
I wonder what pulled pork and brisket is.
It all has to be individually wrapped is kind of the key.
You can't just reach in your pocket and be like, I got some warm gummy bears.
Give me some pots.

(01:38:17):
Can you imagine, you put the shoe on the other foot and I am not eating anything that is not factory sealed.
It was like factory sealed, like a little bag of Kit Kats or whatever.
There's some crazy pants out there.
That was awesome. Good to know.

(01:38:38):
She got treated like a queen. She did. On Southwest Airlines.
On Southwest? I love Southwest. Which is actually one of the higher end airlines these days if you've been watching the news.
I tell you what, it's so crazy these days, man, flying.
Every time, past several times I've flown, there's always a delay.
Like, get to the airport, all right, my flight's at 620 and then we're sitting in the airplane at 620.

(01:39:03):
I'm like, are we going to take off? What the hell?
And then like 659, maybe seven, they take off.
And none of that is generally, no, the airlines always want to be on time.
That generally has to do with weather or ATC.
Yeah.
What are you going to do?

(01:39:25):
I know you're always on time.
I'm always on time.
Because I leave when the passengers say, and start, okay.
And we're taking off right now, get in.
You have had several occasions where you can't get into the airport they wanted to go to.
This is actually very interesting because aviation geek talk.
But last week, so this is a very, very busy time of the season.

(01:39:46):
The latter part of the year is always very busy.
And the day after Christmas, everybody wants to go to Aspen.
Aspen is the place to go, right?
So you can look on your schedule and you'll go, we have a fleet of 13 aircraft.
Eight of them are going to Aspen today, right?
And they're all leaving at 9 o'clock.
I got to the airport and got ready to start that airplane and ATC had a nine hour delay for takeoff.

(01:40:10):
Damn.
Nine hours.
Can you imagine when I'm like, I'm leaving at 9 o'clock in the morning and they says, no problem.
In order to get all of the planes into Aspen that need want to go there today, you have to take off nine hours from now.
That's how many people were going to Aspen.
What happens in Aspen after Christmas?
It's like what's the...
It's a skiing destination.
It's the place to be.

(01:40:31):
You have Christmas with the family and then you go to Aspen for the night.
My sister is a dental hygienist up there and even the doctors can't afford to live in town.
They drive hours to get to their office because it is so busy with the uber rich people now.
It's like Jackson Hole.
It's crazy.
It was crazy.
I thought it was a typo on the sheet.

(01:40:52):
I'm looking at the sheet and I'm like, is this real?
I had to call and they go, uh-huh.
That's wild.
They were landing a plane every two and a half minutes.
Damn.
Think about that.
Two and a half minutes.
And you got to wait nine hours?
From sunrise to sunset.
And I was nine hours in the queue.
Wow, dude.
To get into Aspen.
Anyway.
That's like pulling teeth.
Eric, where have you flown to most?
Where do I fly to the most?
I would say Cabo.

(01:41:13):
I hear about Cabo all the time.
I go to Cabo a lot.
Yeah, Cabo is a big...
Are you going fishing or just vacationing?
For all kinds of reasons.
Yeah.
Last fall there was a big fish in Derby.
I've been to Colorado quite a bit and McCall, Idaho.
Yeah, I go to McCall.
McCall.
You were flying to Glendive, Montana?
No.
I go into all kinds of places in Montana.
Glacier and Billings.
Nobody goes to Glendive on Billings.

(01:41:34):
No.
No, I do a whole lot of Montana.
Glacier Park is a big one right now.
So going to Glacier Park, which for those that are into aviation, this is one of those
really cool things.
So when you fly an airplane above 18,000 feet, we call that the flight levels.
And when you're above 18,000 feet, you're under complete domination of the air traffic

(01:41:55):
control.
You get no liberties.
You have to do what you're told, which is fine, right?
Because we're all hauling ass up there.
That's under 18,000 feet?
Above 18,000.
Oh, above.
Okay.
So typically when you land at an airport, there's a couple of ways you can land.
One is you just look at the airport, you just line up with the runway and land, right?
Another one is we do these, we call it instrument procedures, right?
It's like, okay, you fly this far, step down, fly this far, step down, and you work your

(01:42:17):
way down.
Not too long ago, I was up at 23,000 feet descending out of 45,000 feet.
I was coming through 23,000 feet, coming into Glacier Park, and the Teton Mountains line
the runway right there.
And this is incredibly unusual for a pilot.
This is one of those things the pilots sit back and tell each other about, and you're
like, I can't believe it happened.
They cleared me for what's called a visual approach from 23,000 feet.

(01:42:41):
And what that basically means says you have the airport, and I go, uh-huh.
And they go, cool.
Dive.
And so from 23,000 feet, I got to do whatever I wanted to land the airplane.
Did you roll some barrels and stuff?
Well, no.
No, just kidding.
No, but here's what I did.
But here's what I did do.
I stretched out about 50 miles and flew right down the Tetons.

(01:43:05):
I literally raced alongside the Tetons all the way down to Glacier Park.
It was one of those surreal moments as a pilot.
You're like, I don't know if they'll ever let me do that again.
That was just cool as hell.
You're out there with your iPhone taking pictures.
Yeah, me and my co-pilot both were like, is that autopilot?
We're like, yeah, fine.
Fuck it.
No.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
It was pretty cool when they, you know, you're looking down at 20,000 feet down at the world

(01:43:28):
and they say, cool, land the plane.
You can just do what kind of kind of do whatever you want.
So once you land there, what do you go do?
Usually kick them off the airplane and fire it up and go home.
Really?
You don't spend any time like in Jackson or?
No, I mean, I have.
I mean, sometimes sometimes it's not worth it to bring the plane back, but it depends
on the season.
In the summer months, I get more.

(01:43:48):
Go ahead.
Yeah, I get more overnight.
You go that you go somewhere and it's just not worth the haul the plane back because
it's it's you know, it's got nothing to do for the next few days.
So just stay up there.
It's cheaper to put in the weekend.
Stay in the hotel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
During the busy season, which is the holiday season in particular, it almost doesn't matter
where I go.
They're going to make me fly it back empty because it's got a job to do tomorrow.
So cool.

(01:44:09):
Yeah.
And then you go, let me know, because we've got property outside of Yellowstone.
Oh, there you go.
You just come hang out at our place.
We'll go shoot something.
Mm hmm.
Bring it home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, I was just talking to my buddy today who just dropped a big elk in Montana.
Really?
So jealous.
I'm looking at little tiny deer season ended today.
I won't get one this year.
Don't.

(01:44:30):
I'm going to cry.
I'm going to cry.
Does anybody play a fiddle?
No, no, I go to a lot of places.
It's fun.
Just rub your fingers together, Cassie.
My tiny fiddle.
Anyway, not to make it about me.

(01:44:51):
Wait, is Dean making birds fly around the studio?
We've got about 10 minutes left in the show.
Dean, you want to try some music trivia?
I think Dean should try his hand at it.
Let's give it a go.
I'm not very good at trivia, but OK.
It'll be worth a laugh.
Are we doing Name That Tune or Trivia?
Yeah.
Are you going to play like rap shit and things like that?

(01:45:12):
No.
Yeah, absolutely.
This is the Outlaw Country Show.
We're going to play Outlaw Rap.
I'm going to be better.
Is there such thing as Outlaw Rap?
I don't even know.
I don't know.
Would that even be a thing?
I don't know.
Let me Google that.
I don't think it's all outlaw.
What would you do?
I don't know.
How would you do that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This is Outlaw Pop.

(01:45:33):
Creed and Jenks and those guys, there ain't much outlaw out there that's new.
Yeah.
Cody Jenks.
There's a couple that are trying to pop through.
Cody Jenks in particular.
Jenks and Johnson and Creed.
Creed and Fisher.
Jamie Johnson.
Jamie Johnson.
They're trying to hold the line.
They're holding the line, man.
I hope one day I can join them.
I've heard when I go to Texas, I've just popped into saloons and stuff and heard guys and I'm

(01:45:56):
like, holy fuck, why aren't they on the radio?
There's so much better than this pop shit we're listening to today with guys wearing their
sister's jeans and fucking shit like that.
Oh my gosh.
I'm glad you don't do that, Travis.
I'm glad you don't wear Kirby's jeans.
I don't wear Kirby's jeans.
She wears mine sometimes.
That's a whole different story.
Remember that swing you saw on the other?
No, I'm just kidding.
It wasn't so much the swing, it was that leather suit with the mask thing that threw me off.
Hey, and I look good in it.

(01:46:27):
I'm just saying.
I believe you.
Shit.
And I'm over here thinking about Halloween when you dress as each other.
I did dress as Kirby.
She dressed as me.
It was cool.
People knew what we were doing.
So, Dean, you are in luck though.
So, I mean, Travis is very good at these contests, the name of that tune and the trivia, but

(01:46:47):
Kirby's not here today.
I know.
I feel like I'm going to win.
So you actually-
How does it work?
You actually have got some competition.
I have to preface this by saying I've been drinking for the last eight hours.
We all have.
We've been going for two hours, dude.
I've been drinking for eight hours.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So I've been drinking all day too, just so you know.
Sweet, brother.
So-
It's Sunday, man.
Don't make fun of me if I can't name the songs that I should know.
All right.

(01:47:08):
So here's the deal.
I'm going to start playing a song.
So you can name the artist or the name of the song.
Just say your name.
Name is your buzzer.
Your name is your buzzer.
And you can give me the song, name, title, or the artist.
Or the artist.
Got it.
I'll give you five seconds to get the other part.
Oh, you have to name them both?
You don't have to.
You don't have to.
But you get a bonus point if you do.
One point for each.
Yeah, so if you only know the name of the song, it's one.

(01:47:29):
If you know the artist, that's two.
So two is the bonus point?
Two points is the max.
Yeah, the bonus point.
Yes.
It's the bonus point.
Two points.
We get a bonus point.
So now we've got name is your buzzer.
And you can get a bonus point.
And you can get a bonus point.
I hope I didn't just fuck up your show.
Nope.
Nope.
All right, so let's give this a go.
Ready?
Hold on, I got to.
Oh yeah.
We need our.

(01:47:50):
Can I get one more cocktail for us?
Yeah.
All right.
I'll let the music play for a moment.
Get yourself a cocktail.
Get yourself a cocktail.
TBR's got some ice cubes over there.
What are you drinking, man?
Is that cranberry and gentlemen?
Cranberry whiskey.
Yeah.
He's got a little bit of a
cranberry whiskey.
He's taking Jessica up on her cocktail mixture.

(01:48:14):
Man, this is one of the bottles that only has one number on it.
I was going to hand you a pen to write the episode number.
Did you really?
That's almost gone.
We'll tell you all about the bottles, Dean, after the show.
I can't wait to hang the decanter from the top.
Dude, I'm so stoked.
We collect the bottles from every show.

(01:48:35):
All right, you guys ready?
Here we go.
I'm going to keep score.
You'll pick this up really quick.
Are you playing Cassie or are you just going to keep score?
No, I'm going to keep score.
All right, Cassie keeps score.
All right.
And I'm not playing because I can see.
Therefore, I cannot be accused of cheating.
Well, Eric can't play because he's picking this up.
Here we go.
Who knows this one?
Travis.
Travis.
Good old boy, Waylon Jennings.
I'll give it to you.
Just a good old boy.
Yeah, I'll give it to you.
It's in parentheses by Waylon Jennings.

(01:48:56):
So that's how it works.
All right, that's two, right?
Yeah, you get two points.
All right, here we go.
So that's how it works.
Travis.
Go ahead.
David Allen Coe.
The Rudd.
Shut his mic off.
Now, to be fair, we usually let our guests pick the genre and the decade.
I don't know.
What is the genre?

(01:49:17):
It was just anything, right?
Outlaw Country.
Outlaw Country.
Well, we got Dean from Outlaw Barbecue.
We got to do Outlaw.
No, we stay with Outlaw.
I know him.
I'm just really slow.
We're good.
All right.
He's going to get real slow in a minute.
We'll see.
Have another shot, Travis.
All right.
Just pour the bottle up.
Salad truck.
Pick up the bottle.
We're nearly 40 episodes in.
I know it sets traps off.

(01:49:38):
Who's this?
Go ahead.
Dwight Yolkham.
Guitarist Cadillac.
Damn.
I'm going home.
No, no, no, no.
Hang on.
Slayer, Rain of Blood.
Travis.
Who is it?
John Anderson.
Yes.
Swing it.
There you go.
As soon as you hear the word, you're going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh,
I'm going to be like, well, I'm going to just be like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

(01:50:05):
As soon as he plays a female artist, Travis is going to struggle.
So I suggest.
There's gotta be some 90s country shit that I don't know.
Alright, let's do some 90s country.
No, no, I know everything in the 90s.
You know everything in the 90s?
Nothing in the 90s.
Nothing nice?

(01:50:26):
You don't know this one?
I've never heard this.
No?
I'm with them on this.
No.
Close.
It's Ronnie Millsap.
Ronnie fucking Millsap, I knew it.
There was a really kind of goofy time in country music in the 70s.
Yeah, it was a little goofy.
It was.

(01:50:48):
Who's this?
I don't know, it sounds like Journey.
Journey?
Again, do we need to switch genres?
Do we need to switch genres?
Travis.
Who's that?
Dolly Parton.
It is not Dolly Parton.
What?
Hell yeah.

(01:51:09):
Is that Negative a Point?
You're killing me, Travis.
Negative a Boater Point, too.
It's not Cash.
Kirby is going to die over here.
Jessica Frankenrabbit gave us two queens.
Reba.
It is Reba.
I've got to say Dean.
Dean got Reba.
I'm not playing, but I have to give the clues.
Dean's got a point.
You know the name of the song, Dean?

(01:51:31):
No.
Never heard of it.
Whoever's in New England?
No?
All right.
Travis.
Go ahead.
Well, it's Willie Nelson and Ray Charles.
It is.
It is.
It is.
That's like a bonus.
Is that three?
Is that three?
That might be a bonus point.
I'm not sure we're allowed to do that.

(01:51:52):
Did we put a delay on his mic?
You know the best part is we could make up the rules right now.
We could make up the rules and Kirby's not going to jump across the table and kill us.
Not until she gets back.
She'll be like, no, this is bullshit.
She actually doesn't care right now.
Yeah.
Although if we shut off your mic, Travis, we just look at each other.

(01:52:14):
Who's this?
Van Halen.
I don't know any of this stuff.
Female chromosomes.
Huh.
Oh, guys are killing me.

(01:52:36):
Melissa Etheridge.
Oh my God.
Melissa Etheridge isn't even country.
It is one of the Judds.
Which one?
I don't fucking know any of them.
Hey, I.
All right, Travis.
No one else.
No one else can look.
No one else.
No one else can love.
No one else can.

(01:52:57):
I'll give you half a point.
I won't.
You don't get the vulnerable.
No.
You don't know who this is?
Come on.
No one else on earth.
God dang it.
And it's by which Judd?
It's by Winona Judd.
Yes.
OK, you get one point for all of that because Kirby will kill you if I get any more.
Travis.
Travis, go ahead.
Alan Jackson.

(01:53:18):
Chattahoochee.
You see.
I'm not drinking before I come next time.
No, just study your female artists and you will be.
Travis is getting all swallowed right now.
He's like, I'm fucking awesome.
I'm living on top of you.
We're awesome.
He never gets this opportunity of her being here.
Dean, I want to thank you for this opportunity to whoop ass like sweet curves.

(01:53:43):
Now I know what it feels like.
That's why she's all like bright eyed bushy tailed.
Hey, guess what, Travis, you don't even have to sleep on the couch tonight.
Travis.
Go ahead.
The Gambler.
Kenny Rogers.
You're not even trying, Dean.
I am.
No, you're not even trying.
I know these.
I'm just really slow.
You're not.

(01:54:04):
I took that little tiny yellow bus to school.
Travis.
What the hell?
Oh, dang.
Never mind.
I was wrong.
Dean's got one.
There you go.
You got the title of the song.

(01:54:25):
You got the title.
Five seconds for the end.
Go, Dean.
How do you not know Loretta Lynn?
Loretta Lynn.
All the shit you've known, you don't know Loretta Lynn.
I knew it, but I thought it was something else.
Dean's got three points.
He's catching up.
All right, this is our last one.
Travis.
Go ahead.
I'm going to go with the country road.
Country road.
West Virginia.
Take me home to country road.
Come on.
I had that album, by the way.
Grandma's Feather Bed was my favorite.

(01:54:46):
Great song.
Fucking yeah.
We were in that in elementary school.
Our choir team would teach us.
It was awesome.
I lived in Colorado during those times.
So cool.
I loved November.
We're out of time, my friend.
I'm so sorry.
Oh, man.
I expected the blues.
I'm good.
Y'all, thank you so much.
Dean, thank you so much for hanging out, and thank you for the sausage that you brought.
It's the mystery sausage.
It was very delicious.

(01:55:11):
And thank you for sponsoring the show, man.
I appreciate you coming in here.
I love this show.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Thank you.
I love all you guys.
Love you, too, buddy.
Thank you, Ramona Radio, for putting on this crazy, insane podcast.
Pretty soon, we're going to make it a video podcast, too, by the way.
That's right.
That's coming up soon down the pike.
We'll talk about that later.
So start next year.

(01:55:32):
That just means I can't be on any more shows.
That just means you got to dress up before you get in here next time.
That just means I got to superimpose a big smiley face on you.
I can't wear my gold lame thong and cape anymore?
No, not anymore.
No, you can.
We just have to do your makeup.
What's wrong with my makeup?
It's the makeup that's bugging us.
It's not the thongs you're wearing.
It's eyeliner or what?

(01:55:53):
You need a more guyliner, man.
What's his name?
The Brett Michaels guy?
For anybody listening who doesn't know me, I don't wear makeup.
I don't.
I'm just going to point out the poster of Steve Talley right now.
That's all I can do.
That's in here, man.
That's so cool.
Cassie, thank you so much for hanging out with us.

(01:56:15):
Thanks for letting me film before you, Kirby.
Sweet Curbs out in Texas.
Thanks, Kirby.
We love you all.
Thank you so much for listening.
Tune in next week, and we'll be back here on next Sunday.
Have a great rest of your week.
God bless you.
Drive safe.
Take care.
Bye.

(01:57:00):
Take me home.
To the place I belong.
West Virginia.
Round the mama.
Take me home.

(01:57:23):
Country roads.
Take me home.
Country roads.
Take me home.
Country roads.

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