Episode 44: Micole Moore

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I got the whiskey. Let me have a drink of your whiskey. Better get out of here.

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My name's Ken and I clean Willie Nelson's under hole.
Under hole?
I know you don't agree but I think he's the king of country. Get the fuck out of here.
Get out of my studio. No, hell no.
From the Ramona radio studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show.

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Alright, we're here. We're back. We're live. Happy Sunday. Hope everybody had a good week.
Welcome to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show on Ramona Radio. With me as always, Sweet Curbs.
Hey, hi.
Sweet Curbs with a twinkle in her eye. Dance around the fields where clovers lie. Her smile's a charm you cannot deny.

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You'll adopt every creator possible.
I love how you do your little shoulders every time this song comes on. She's like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
Should I do this one?
You got the elbow. The shoulder.
That little one's shoulder.
The up and down shoulder with the eyebrow going up at the same time as the shoulder.
Oh man.
That's the move.
Mr. Eric, go forth with us on the sounds running this crazy little machine down here.

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What's happening? How are you?
What up, bro?
I'm, you know, living the dream.
Any fun, crazy flights lately?
Not crazy. Just a lot of flying. Salt Lake City to Cabo to Seattle to just all over.
Just all over. All over the world.
Mr. Jet Set.
We have a really cool guest today. If you've never been to Ramona Ranch Winery, you definitely need to go there.

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Loser.
You're a loser.
No, not really.
If you didn't go, you haven't gone, you're a loser.
I mean, you might not be a loser, but are you really winning until you go to Ramona Ranch?
I don't think you're winning unless you go to Ramona Ranch Winery. They've got the best wine in Ramona.
What was that? Mr. Michael Moore. What's up, my friend?
Hey, hey. Happy to be here.
Good, good, good. So you've won several golds.
Golds.

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Golds. And you brought us some wine here. What is this?
That's our Estate Tonight.
Estate Tonight?
We grow and make that every year. It's a wonderful wine.
Has it won any?
Yes, this one has won many gold medals. So it's a really fun wine.
Travis just took my wine, but I've always been a big fan. You guys have had tenat before, and I always love it.
Yeah, that's usually my go-to. Well, before, you guys used to make this thing called Whatever, and that was my go-to wine.

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Whatever happened with the Whatever, man?
It's coming back.
Are you going to make some more?
I have a blend of it right now.
So tell me about it. It's a blend of everything, right?
It's never the same, though, right? It's just Whatever is left.
No, it's never the same. So it's one of these wines where every year we make different varietals, and we rack those into the barrels and let those wines age in the barrels.
Whatever doesn't fit in the barrel, whatever, goes into a tank, and then they just get blended together. When we have enough of that, we put it in a barrel, we age it, we bottle it, call it Whatever.

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Call it Whatever.
So if you have a dinner party and somebody says, hey, what do you want to drink? And you say Whatever, we say, hey, we have that right here.
I know people would look at us weird when we'd come in the tasting room. This was a long time ago. It was like Jocelyn. She's like, what would you like? Whatever.
And people would look like we're being rude. I'm like, no, that's the name of the wine. We're not being rude.

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Just give me Whatever.
Okay. When we named it, it was kind of fun. We were pouring wines over at the par lounge for their Wednesday night pasta night.
And we debuted it there and somebody came up and they're like, hey, what do you got? And I go, whatever. Excuse me.

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Okay. We wrote Red Wine. Yeah, it's whatever.
It's whatever red you want it to be. It's in there. Proprietary blend. Stop being a Debbie Downer and just I'll just give you whatever.
We'll have a question. Let's go back to the beginning. How did you get into winemaking, Michael?

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Oh, it's an alcoholic.
Wow. I hear you, brother. Cheers to that.
You picked the right show to be on.
Now, I met Terry in 2002 and we started dating and then we moved to Ramona in 2004, right when the wine scene was kind of getting reestablished.
And that's kind of how it all just snowballed from there. We started making wine as amateurs and doing it.

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People made fun of us because we had wine in our bathtub and, you know, glass jugs and stuff. It was bathtub wine, they called it.
And the little low boys or whatever they called it.
Carboys. Yeah, carboys.
And so it just kind of snowballed from there. We did it for fun and got good at it.
In 2011, we entered the world's largest amateur wine competition and we won the whole thing with grapes from Ramona.

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So when you bought the property you live on, there was already vines and all that like ready to go.
Are you planning to do it all?
We did it all. It was a brush. It looked like, you know, just a whole property full of brush.
Cleared the land, figured out all the flat spots, started planting grapes, got involved with a bunch of other local winemakers and just snowballed.
When you started like planting the grapes and all that, did you think that you would be where you're at today?

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Oh, no. We did it for fun.
And it's still fun, but it's a labor of love.
And one of the things with San Diego County, you have to grow grapes in order to be a commercial winery.
And so that's part of why we have to grow the grapes.
And so you really have to get good at growing grapes first before you get good at making wine, because wine is made in the vineyard.

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And so that's part of the process.
Yeah. So when you first planted the grapes, how long does it take a grape plant to start producing grapes?
Like what's the minimum of three years to start producing your first crop?
And then those wines, if they're red, they have to age for two years in the barrel.
So it's a five year process.
When you say produce its first crop, do grapes not grow for three years or they grow but they're not viable or good until three years?

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What you're trying to do is you want to cut the fruit off of those first two years so that you can get roots established from the vines
so that they're nice and healthy for that third year.
And you could even push it out to the fourth year, but most wineries want to make a profit.
They'll harvest their third year and it's usually a fairly light crop and then the fourth and suck easy for you to say.

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Years you'll get bigger and bigger crop.
And like right now our vines are producing probably they're the most grapes that they will produce in their lifetime.
Yeah. Okay.
So where are you originally from?
I am from a little town called Coos Bay, Oregon.
Coos Bay, Oregon.
I was born actually in a town called White City, Oregon, which is by Medford.

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And then my family moved to Coos Bay and that's where I grew up.
Coos Bay. Yeah.
And then great town.
And then you came there a couple of weeks ago.
Beautiful place.
Dropping people off.
Yeah.
It rains a lot there.
We have a saying, you don't tan in Oregon, you just rust.
Yeah.
I was in Oregon not too long ago.
Yeah.

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I love it up there.
Day job work out there.
My family, a lot of my family still lives there.
And so we go up and visit at least, you know, maybe once every other year.
Yeah.
And it's great.
What brought you to San Diego?
I moved down here with Terry.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. I met Terry up there.
Oh, okay.
And I was living there and then we moved down here.

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Or she was down here actually.
She was in the Navy.
Yeah.
And had a property down here and then we moved in together and then moved to Ramona.
Nice.
Yeah. Nice.
So that's crazy, man.
You never thought you'd see yourself like as a 19, 20 year old kid being like,
hey, you know what I'm going to be when I grow up?
A winemaker.
I actually came from a different background of welding and fabrications.

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Yeah.
That's kind of a, I mean, you build things, right?
You build wine.
I see you out there on the tractor and welding shit, doing man stuff.
Yeah. I'm one of the fortunate ones in the wine industry.
I know how to weld and do all that stuff and so I can fix my own equipment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm the repair that has to happen.
Oh yeah.
So what's the, what are you working on now?

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What's the new mix for the wines?
Well, you guys have had the Tuscan Sun.
So that's our super Tuscan tribute.
We can't call it super Tuscan in the United States because it's an Italian product.
So we've done that blend.
I'm going to do that again.
Is that like the champagne versus sparkling wine?
I was going to say.

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Wait, so did that just happen?
Because a lot of wineries here had a super Tuscan.
Well, it's interesting because we do have a label approval from the TTB for two super Tuscan.
But when we resubmitted it recently, they said you can't use that word.
So it might be a new thing.
Yeah.
So I'm doing that blend again for 2022 wines.
And like I said, the whatever is, is in the works.

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I just bottled a 2021 Merlot that we're releasing for this next wine club.
And then I just bottled last Wednesday our 2022 estate, San Gavese, which we sell out of very fast.
I know I like your San Gavese.
The red label. Yeah, it's an amazing wine.
So really good this time around.
It's so good.
Oh, yeah.

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So what are you drinking right now?
You got some whiskey?
I got some Gentleman Jack.
You get over there.
Are you are you in a course like a course?
I mean, like water.
You're like me, bro.
We're drinking water and whiskey.
One balances the other out.
Absolutely.
Is whiskey your your your normal go to?
I know you're a tick.
I know you like the tequila.
So I'm a bourbon bourbon guy.

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My favorite bourbon is larceny.
I don't know if you've heard of it.
It's a it's a weeded bourbon and it's the same mash bill as Pappy Van Winkle.
So it's a weeded bourbon.
It's really good.
But it doesn't cost fifteen hundred dollars a bottle.
It's like twenty five bucks.
Really? That's my that's my more my.
But then, like you said, we love tequila.

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We're leaving Wednesday for our trip to tequila.
I will be bringing some bottles back and we get behind the scenes tours of all the tequila distilleries there in the town.
And it's nice.
Super fun.
You guys take a pretty good group every time you go.
We're twelve of our wine club every year.
Wow.
I want to go, man.
We're going to go next year.
You're going next year.
I'm going to go with you on next year.

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You're going to have to do it another year now, Michael.
We are.
So we already have three signed up.
We'll put you guys on there and we've got another couple.
So yeah, you're in.
All right. We're in.
We're doing it. We're doing it live.
Do it.
Well, you better mark out your calendar for March or February next year.
That's when we go.
I know.
I've been I've been getting yelled at a lot by a lot of my friends and a lot of people who keep yelling at me about getting my passport.

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Oh, yeah.
That's going to be tough.
So it only takes a few weeks.
You can do it.
I know.
I just got to set an appointment to go down there.
I have everything I need to do it.
But in the but pearl, it only takes a second.
Like you don't even you don't even know they were there.
Wait, what?
Oh, they're in and out.
You don't even know.
They tell you cough twice.
Am I the second one?
You're like, are you done?
It's totally fine.
It's happened so quick.

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Last time I got my prostate exam, I asked the doctor, where should I put my pants over there next to mine was not the answer.
I got a question.
Are you going to buy me a drink after this?
That's all I need to know.
Oh, man.

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I do. So I do appreciate you guys supporting all the local, you know, the live music here in this beautiful community.
Ramona, I can tell you, one of the first places, actually the first place I played when I came back to Ramona in 2015 was at Ramona Ranch.

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Yes, by yourself chasing the sun.
It was with chasing the sun, but they left. You were on your own and your little dolly with your speaker on.
Patio like this guy's great.
I was going to stay and play.
You guys OK with that?
Was that before you got into the bigger building?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was in there.

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You've never been when it was over.
When we first moved to Ramona, I think we popped in and I do remember there just being a smaller thing. Yeah. And then a couple of years later, I'm like, holy shit, this is big. You got all kind of stuff going on.
Yeah, it was. I just remember I felt so bad because there were signs on their literal like house doors like this is a residence.
Please don't open the private room.
It is to not there still there would be someone and I'm like, no, are you looking for the bathroom?

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Ma'am, it's it's down.
If you read the fine print on that sign, it says the owner has a backhoe and it's not afraid to use.
Do not enter.
Yeah. So that was an awesome progression where, you know, we opened in 2012 with just our patio and our bar was actually outside on the patio.

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Yeah. And then we did that for like a year or two and then we moved it in, you know, the tasting room went into the garage and then they had the whole patio and then and then eventually we built a big building.
So, man, I remember when you guys started making that started building that building, I watched it grow from that was the cool thing about being someone that comes regularly seeing the progression.

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Yeah, I remember me you and Terry and sweet curves were walking around and you're like, this is where this is going to be.
We got this idea over here and I'm like, dude, this can be so cool.
It was awesome. It took two years to build it. Yeah, it was definitely worth it.
Oh, man, you guys got it going on. Great space.
All right. So, you know, this is the Travis Bailibus Outlaw Country Show.

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Yes. So we, we ask every guest, who do you believe the king of country might be? And you know the rule.
Show.
You can say whatever you want. That one's it for me it's a toss up between Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson.

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All right. You know, that's acceptable. Yeah. Yeah.
Either one of those. Yeah, but I grew up with, you know, country music, Rosanne Cash, you know, Kenny Rogers, all those guys.
And so the game, the gambler. Yeah. Love that great music.
You're watching the 80s. Yeah. Do you ever watch that movie? Yeah. Yeah.
It's called The Gambler. Yeah. At the very end of that, he had that last that two shot.

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He's like, well, maybe it was five or maybe. Let's see.
He shoots it in the air. Was it with Kenny Rogers? It was Kenny Rogers.
Yeah. He was the actor in that. And then they redid it with Mel Gibson, right?
I really don't know Mel Gibson. What was the movie Maverick Maverick? Yeah. Jodie Foster.
It's like that's supposed to be what it was. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's supposed to be.

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It was like a silly movie. He was like a card grifter and gets on this like riverboat.
Oh yeah. Yeah. I didn't see that one. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty well.
Shoot. Oh, I'm gonna write it down. I write it down. She's like, oh, we can watch that.
Man, let's listen to some tunes. What would you like to hear, man? You pick, man.
I love everything. You said Johnny Cash.

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Oh, there we go.
Love it. Yeah, Maverick.

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And if the house just keeps on winning, I got a wild card up my sleeve.
And if love keeps giving me lemons, I just mix them in my drink.
And if the whole wide world stops singing, and all the stars go dark,
I keep a light on in my soul. I keep a bluebird in my heart.

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Oh, I'm a giver. Yeah, and I'm still giving him hell.
Forgiveness is pretty hard, so I made an art out of forgetting them will.

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Yeah, I'm a runner. I can turn 20 cents into a 10.
And if I get confused and I start to lose, I rhyme and rhyme till it all makes sense.
And if love keeps giving me lemons, I just mix them in my drink.

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And if love starts giving me lemons, I just mix them in my drink.

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I keep a bluebird in my heart.

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I keep a bluebird in my heart.

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I left Montgomery on North 65. I was restless and ready to give Nashville a try.
I rolled into town with a sound of my own. Somewhere between Jennings and Jones.

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Well, the day job I landed felt just like a jail.
I couldn't seem to break out with that hammer and nails.
And I spent all my nights in some old hockey town.

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Somewhere between Jennings and Jones.
Hanging out in the bars with the drunks and the stars, I found a few good old boys just like me.
Started burning our candles both ends in the middle. A bunch of roaring outlaws at high speed.

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And they said that the end of that road I was on, was somewhere between Jennings and Jones.
Well, some record executives found me one night.

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I was singing half lit. They said it sounded just right.
They put my name on an album, but they shelved all my songs.
Said I was somewhere between Jennings and Jones.

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Hanging out in the bars with the drunks and the stars, and a few good old boys just like me.
Burning our candles both ends in the middle. A bunch of roaring outlaws at high speed.

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And they said that the end of that road I was on, was somewhere between Jennings and Jones.
Now to find me in a record store won't take you long.

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I'm right there between Jennings and Jones.
I've got a good woman at home who thinks I do no wrong.

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But sometimes, Lord, she just ain't always around.
And you know that's when I fall. I can't help myself at all.
And I get whiskey bent and held abound.

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Play me some songs about a ramly man. Put a cold one in my hand.
Cause you know I love to hear those guitar sounds.
But don't you play I'm so lonesome I could cry. Cause I'll get all balled up inside.

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And I'll get whiskey bent and held bound.

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Sure enough about clothes and time. About stoned out of my mind.
And I end up with some honky tonk special I found.
Just as sure as the morning sun comes. Thinking of my sweet girl at home.

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And I need to get whiskey bent and held bound.
Play me the songs about a ramly man. Put old Jim Beam in my hand.
Cause you know I still love to get drunk and hear country sounds.

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But don't play your cheating heart. Cause that'll tear me all apart.
I get whiskey bent and held bound.
You ain't some always make me feel down.

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Alright, we're back. Good old Bo Cephas warms my heart.
We're hanging out with Michael Moore. That might be the Jack too.
We're hanging out with Michael Moore from Ramona Ranch Winery.
So you said that you were a metal fabricator?

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Yes, I did welding fabrication. I started my career as a trailer manufacturer.
I built custom trailers up in Medford, Oregon. And then expanded to a bunch of different jobs.
There's a big brand that's based out of there.
There's a bunch of them up there.
Yeah, there's a whole lot of brands that are out of Medford.
And then my cousin worked for a boat manufacturer up there.

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Willy Boats. And so for whatever reason I guess we kept it in the family.
I started building boat trailers for those guys. Did that for many years.
So it was just like regular trailers? Like the big techs?
Yeah, kind of like that kind of stuff. But all custom made. No cookie cutter.
Every customer had a want or need and we'd do it for them.

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So how old were you when you started doing that right out of high school?
I think I was about 19, 20 when I started doing that.
Did you take like in high school like welding classes or anything like that?
No, I failed that.
You failed that?
Don't buy my trailer.
No, no, that was more of a problem with authority.

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Okay, all right. Next question.
Yeah, I'm actually certified now. I'm certified half inch mild steel.
Oh yeah, certified welder. Right on. Cool.
So you work on anything on the side or?
No, I just mostly do my own stuff now.
I've seen you chop parts of motorcycles.
Yeah, I do custom motorcycle builds for my own personal stuff.

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Right on.
What do you got? You had a Harley last time I was...
I still have it. It's first sale.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
That's the one with the flames on it, right?
Yeah, yeah. It's a nice bike.
It was wrecked and then you redid it.
Yeah, and that's kind of what I do. I just find stuff that people don't want anymore and I put it back together, make it look new.
Have you gone riding on it?
Yeah, I've ridden it a few times.

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You gotta let me know, dude.
Well, you gotta let me know.
I know, dude.
No, you gotta let him know because his bikes are far away. We gotta go pick them up.
I'm self-employed. I can go whenever I want.
I have two bikes.
We have a lovely shed if we put it together. We can house the bikes at our house.
Yeah, so Sweet Curves bought me a shed for my birthday last August.

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I almost heard that, yeah.
Still sitting in my backyard in the cardboard box.
It's one of those tin sheds, you know? It comes in like...
It's not tin, it's plastic. It'd be rusted by now.
No, it's tin.
No, it's plastic. It's like that.
No, it's tin.
No, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no. It's tin. Trust me, it's tin.
Anyway, it's still in the box.
You have to put it together in two boxes.
Because he's a man, you have to trust him.

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You have to put it together with a bunch of sheet metal screws.
You know, the old tin sheds, you know what I'm talking about.
You got it.
But yeah, so it's a million pieces.
And I'm not qualified to help him.
No, no.
No, it's like me teaching you how to play guitar, Sweet Curves.
You hold that flashlight steady for me.
Hold the fucking light!
Hey, I held it for my dad and I did just fine most of the time.

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You can't offend me. I used to hold the flashlight for my dad.
Wrenches were thrown.
Wrenches were thrown. A lot of cuss words, a lot of stuff.
Not at me. I was a girl. My brother's though.
Oh yeah.
Just hold the light.
Oh man.

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It'll bump to the top of the list pretty soon.
So this is always an interesting question for some of the guests that we have on.
And you're in Oregon.
How old were you when you started driving the car?
Or how old were you when you drove your first car?
Well, when I drove my first car I was six years old.
My dad was very adamant about us learning how to drive because we lived on back country roads.

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And we'd sit on his lap and learn how to shift and do all that.
But when I got my first car I was 17 and got my driver's license.
Okay.
So you bought it yourself or?
Kinda.
Kinda? What kind of car was it?
Yeah.
Deals were made.
Yeah. The first vehicle that was actually registered in my name was a 1974 Dodge Ram Charger.

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Oh wow.
Very cool car.
Damn.
So.
Ballin'.
Yeah. So living in Oregon, you know, there's a lot of off-road and a lot of sand dunes, that kind of stuff.
So we went out.
But in a Dodge Charger, come on now.
No, Dodge Ram Charger.
Oh, Ram Charger. Oh, I got you.
It looks like a Blazer.
Oh, okay.
And then the next car that I owned was a 1977.

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Oh, a Ram Charger. In my head I have something like an El Camino.
No, no, no.
Like a truck car.
Yeah, no. It looked like a Blazer.
So I had a 77 Monte Carlo with two Kicker 15s in it.
Were you bumping country music?
He was big bumping.
I was going to say, were you bumping country music out of that thing?
Everything. Well, you know, in the 80s and 90s, it was rap music.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're pretty close to the same age, so we've kind of.
Pretty close, yeah.
Dealt with that.
I listen to everything, though. You know what? My Pandora runs the gambit.
Yeah. I remember in South Carolina, we had this dude, he had like a Honda Civic wagon.
Yeah.

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And he had it like lowered down with like little tiny tires on it, you know.
And I was like pulled up beside him at a light and I turned my I heard country music.
I turned my radio down. He's blasting country music.
I'm like, I don't know if that fits.
What kind of car was that?
It was like a Honda Civic lowered with like the big rims.

(31:49):
Country music has no bounds. I mean, it was a civic.
It was just it kind of I was like, well, Dodge Ram.
That doesn't look right.
Focus. They can all listen.
Seeing like a low rider here in San Diego and one of these things is not like the other.
This doesn't make sense. I'm in a matrix.

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I'm trapped in the matrix.
There's a glitch. That's a glitch. I don't know what it is.
Oh, man. So we do have to do a shout out to the sponsor.
Sweet Curbs, would you like to do the shout out to Miss Victoria?
Oh, yeah. Am I am I going to do it?

(32:33):
Yeah, do it. We love Victoria.
We do love Victoria.
We just like to say Victoria as many times as we can. So Eric has to stay over that.
But Eric's on it. He's like looking at me like eye contact.
Are you going to say are you going to are you going to.
Thank you, Ramona, family Naturals and Victoria for being an amazing sponsor of this beautiful show we are doing.

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We thank you for your sponsorship sponsorship support of live music.
We're going to be doing a live show on Thursday night.
We're going to be doing a live show on Thursday night.
Thursday nights, Saturday morning, Sunday morning brunch.
What are the times? What do you play? Five thirty to eight thirty five thirty to nine eight five thirty eight.

(33:22):
I love trying to make it go longer than it normally does.
Five thirty five thirty eight Thursday night.
The Thursday schedule and then Sunday's 11 to one brunch on the patio.
They have beer. They have champagne. They have wine.
We'd have a good time. They have a whole coffee bar there.
Really good. And then they have the whole full menu for the for the brunch.
And then on Thursdays they have the full dinner.
It was really good. It's pretty cool because you can just go back and like grab a beer or a bottle of wine and come sit on the table.

(33:50):
I love that you can just take one beer out of a six pack.
Don't sit on a table. You just crack off the one out of the six pack and go no I only want one.
You sit on the table if you want to. But it's frowned upon.
Like I'm going to drink a six pack but I'm just take one at a time.
I'm going to take one at a time. I'm going to make my own six pack.
I want one of those. I need an IPA. A Coors Light.

(34:11):
I'll tell you what that's not a bad idea. Albertsons used to do that.
Mix and match your own.
Yes they had in their front cooler. So like when you get a shipment right inevitably there's going to be something that's broken busted free whatever that you cannot sell now in its original six pack twelve pack whatever.
So they had a front container right at the beginning of their beer and wine section and it was all the busted boxes of beer and it was like I don't know 1499 and it was like build your own six pack.

(34:38):
Like scratching dent.
Yeah.
There's no dent so. Mostly bottles.
It's twenty percent off dented cans.
But you can mix and match up whatever you wanted.
That's awesome.
Now thank you so much Victoria for your sponsorship at Ramona family now chose the address there is three twenty five sixth street in Ramona California.

(35:02):
Great space. Yeah it's a cool spot. We love that place.
Kat Curry calls it Ram Fam Nat and I liked that.
I listen to her show the other day and I heard Ram Fam Nat and then he put a fan on the end.
So I'm a Ram Nat Ben Ben.
Ram. I'm a Ram Van Nat Van Ram Fam Man.

(35:23):
Now say it three times fast.
We're gonna get shirts made Ram Fam Nat.
No.
I am a lamb.
Blackbedding family.
Bottom line we love you Victoria.
I think we just went down the rabbit hole.
Yeah we do. We do. We do that sometimes.

(35:44):
Michael, welcome to the show.
Once the whiskey starts flowing you never know where it's gone.
So dude we're having our 50th.

(36:07):
So Michael we're having our 50th episode April 13th.
April 13th. It's not a Friday is it?
It's a Sunday.
It's a Sunday.
We air live on Sundays.
No so we're airing it live. We're starting at noon and going all the way until I can't walk anymore.
So it's gonna be an American show.
We're hoping to make it until two o'clock.

(36:29):
12 to 2 yes.
We're gonna try to make it past two but we're pushing for five.
Five p.m. so we're gonna be at the Julian station.
And the back of the Julian station.
Noon until it passes out?
Noon until I pass out.
We're gonna build, we're gonna have a massive stage.
Massive stage.
All the artists that's been on the shows get to come back for a set.
We're gonna podcast. We got some really amazing surprises in store.

(36:52):
Yeah a lot of cool stuff. It's gonna be a pate.
Yes and you're definitely welcome.
Well you have to now.
You have to now.
Remember the form you signed before you came in?
I thought that was an NDA.
It was but on the second page it said.
You didn't read the fine line.
You were committed to showing up to the 50th episode on the 13th.

(37:13):
Let me check my calendar.
April what?
13th.
13th.
Oh no.
No no no.
We're in New Orleans.
Oh that's your fun trip.
Yeah.
All right we're gonna, the satellite truck will be out there.
Okay.
We're gonna have to satellite you.
We'll call in.
Yeah we'll call in.
We'll have to pipe you in.
FaceTime.
For all the...
I'll make you do it. I've had to call in.

(37:38):
Oh man.
So you guys go on a lot of...
But before you go.
Go ahead.
Everybody else that's listening.
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Yes.
Registration, tickets to the VIP tent, all that other stuff.
Anyway.
TBROutlawShow.com.
Coming back.
VIP tent sponsored by...
Remota Family Naturals.
Victoria Bradley and Remota Family Naturals.
Yep.
Our sweet friend Victoria.

(38:00):
All right.
Now you're just messing with me.
She's gonna be sponsoring the VIP station.
And that's a station that you don't wanna not be there.
Tent.
Or tent, whatever.
Station, tent, same thing.
TP.
Wigwam.
Relax man.
Two tents.
It's really a big five sporting goods pop up there.

(38:21):
Two at a time please.
Two at a time.
Next.
Dude, so you guys go on a lot of wine tasting trips, right?
We do and it's kinda crazy.
This year we tried to cut back on travel and we ended up doing more.
Oh yeah, I'm seeing that'll happen.

(38:42):
We got Mexico in January, February, March.
We got New Orleans in April.
Going back to Mexico in July.
Going back to Mexico in September and back to Mexico in October.
Damn.
I remember you guys, I saw you guys, because I follow you guys.
But you guys were in Italy not too long ago.
Yeah, we did.
That was not a wine club trip, but it was just a private trip with four couples that turned out to be one of the most epic things that we've done.

(39:11):
Just had great people that love food and wine and got together and rented a villa together and just had a blast.
It looked like it.
Dude, like when you're in a different country like Italy, does the wine taste different?
It's better.
Is it better?
It's better than yours?
California has the best wine in the world.
No, here's the difference.

(39:33):
In Italy, when you just order their table wine, like their house table wine, it's magnificent.
But what we've figured out is the wines that we get here in the US from other countries, they're not their best wines.
They're good wines, but they're not their best wines.
You go there, they keep the best wines in country.
I was going to say, why would you give away your best?

(39:54):
I'd keep it for myself.
Well, I would imagine they probably sell the high produced out of the country or whatever.
We had some great people that we work with that gave us some behind the scenes tours there that were just epic.
We went to the place where they make the wine that was in the Silence of the Lambs.
It's San Felice Winery, it was pretty cool.

(40:17):
Oh, the Chianti?
Yeah, the Chianti. It was awesome.
I ate a liver bean. I ate a liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
That was the wine. It was pretty cool. Great place. And wonderful wine too.
We love to travel into Europe and it just makes us better winemakers because trying it at the source versus trying to replicate it here,

(40:44):
it makes us better winemakers in the fact that we get to try it the way it's made and it helps us for sure.
I'd like to go to Italy. I've never been.
I've been. It's beautiful.
We love it. It's easy to navigate.
Is that the first time you guys went there or have you been there a few times?
That's the first time I've ever been there. And they made me drive.
Michael, Travis has a beautiful dream of retiring and becoming a winemaker.

(41:07):
Oh, you would love it.
No, I do not.
It's a ton of work.
He used to tell me he wants to buy a vineyard. I'm like, why are you talking to Michael and Terry?
Ask them how retirement is going.
Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to do something. Maybe I'd like to make whiskey. That'd be a pretty fun thing to make.
Beer made whiskey?
I've never made whiskey.
I've dabbled in some home brew before. I've made some homemade beer.

(41:32):
Homemade beer is pretty fun. I've done that. Never done the whiskey.
Turns out you got to have bourbon barrels or whiskey barrels.
Others have that stupid barrel.
Others say don't you have wine barrels? Could you do whiskey in a wine barrel?
You can.
That'd be interesting.
Before it was a wine barrel?
Yeah, you can't do bourbon in it, but you can do whiskey in it.
Whiskey?

(41:53):
Yeah.
Well, bourbon's because it's a...
Has to be a brand new white oak vessel.
Yeah.
Oh, is that like a real thing?
And in Kentucky, right?
No, Kentucky or Tennessee. It doesn't matter.
They can do bourbon in Tennessee, I believe.
Has to be a pure...
But there's rules. Brand new white oak vessel.
Doesn't have to be a barrel, but it has to be a vessel.

(42:14):
Interesting.
So where do you think a lot of this rule stuff, rule making of sorts comes along?
I mean, like that rule.
Like you can't call champagne unless it came from...
Well, I think a lot of it's purity of craft, right?
So you want a product that comes out the same every time.
So they make this rule with bourbon that has to be that.

(42:38):
Where the rules, like you're talking about champagne, that's a trademark kind of thing.
That's a region.
And in Europe, regions are named... wines are named from the regions.
Chianti is a region. Champagne is a region.
And they didn't want the United States to steal that from them.
And we did for a while.
And then they had a treaty that they made and they said, OK, you can no longer do that.

(43:02):
You can no longer call it port.
You no longer call it champagne, that kind of stuff.
So what do you call port then?
We call it...
Or what should we call port then?
Fort style.
Fortified.
Yeah, or fortified wine.
Yeah.
So you can say this is a champagne style.
Or sparkling wine.
And they did approve us a super Tuscan style.

(43:25):
So you can't rob it completely, but you can kind of niggle it.
Well, I guess that goes two ways then.
So what do we have in the States that they can't...
Well, you said one, you can't make bourbon.
You can't make bourbon, yeah, exactly.
So if they tried to make something like that, they would call it...
What would they call it?
They would have to call it whiskey.
Just whiskey?
Yeah.

(43:46):
In a new barrel.
In a new barrel.
A bourbon style.
It's a new barrel whiskey.
Untainted.
Bourbon style whiskey.
Well, and they just cracked down on...
I think it was China that was trying to call something tequila.
Tequila can only be made in five states in Mexico.
So they can't call it tequila outside of Mexico, even though it's made with blue agave.

(44:10):
Agave.
They call it fortified agave juice.
I don't know what they call it.
Just like tequila.
Tequila style.
They just call it not tequila.
Instead of tequila, they call it tequila.
Close tequila.

(44:32):
So where are you guys traveling next?
Besides tequila.
Wednesday is tequila.
We're in the town of tequila for five days, and then we stay in a couple extra days in Guadalajara
and explore the big town of Guadalajara and then come home.
Then in March, we go back down to Mexico to our friend's 3,000 acre horse ranch.
Yeah, that's a lot of acres.

(44:54):
And this is the place that's like off the grid.
You have like lanterns in the room.
Yeah, it's called Rancho La Beota.
Rancho de Acorn.
And do you rent like a horse for the whole time?
How do you get around?
In through the desert.
You put a quarter of the machine and a horse comes out.
And a channel and a wheel that churns the electricity.

(45:19):
I rode a quarter horse one time, and then the thing ran out of juice.
A quarter.
We only had two dives in the nickel after that.
I mean, it calls it a horse ranch, but it's actually called a...
What's the word?
It's not a dude ranch, it's an entertainment ranch.

(45:40):
So there's a lot of things to do down there.
And what we do is we take our wine, we do a wine tasting with our 12 people that we take down there.
They take us from the ranch.
They're only a half hour to the wine region down there, the Valle de Guadalupe.
And they take us to the wineries there.
So every day we go to a winery, come back and enjoy the ranch.

(46:02):
And then we do maybe two or three horseback rides.
So beginner rides for people who have never been on a horse before.
Our friend Raul is funny.
He goes, for the people who have been on a horse before, we have experienced horses.
For the people who have never been on a horse before, we have horses that have never been ridden before.

(46:24):
Oh, that's perfect.
Break out the video cameras.
Watch everybody's head go.
Get the wild Mustangs. Here we go.
So he's a great guy, and they do it really good.
And they've been in business with this ranch as long as we've had our ranch.
And we kind of started together and helped them build it and started bringing groups to them and stuff.

(46:47):
You guys have a couple horses?
We have one full, he's a quarter horse, but he's full size.
Quarter horse.
Oh, that makes sense.
Quarter horse, but it's full size.
Don't ask questions.
I have 25 cents, but it identifies as a dollar.

(47:08):
And then we have two ponies, two little angry ponies that we adopted several years ago, and they're hilarious.
They're funny as hell.
I can't tell you how many times I drive by your guys' house and there's people out on the 78 taking pictures at your fence with your animals.
The little ponies, yeah.
It's hilarious.
People love it.

(47:30):
So you guys have a little bit of livestock that you guys plan on?
We just got some pigs.
Two little, they're crosses.
They're, they call it heirloom crosses.
So they're mangalista, old spot, and red wattle crosses.
So they're heirlooms.
And then did you all name them?

(47:51):
I didn't name them.
I had no part in that.
You got them for?
Somebody named them.
You got them for food though, right?
What are their names?
Carnitas and Carmelita.
I didn't name them.
Tell me you're going to eat them without telling me you're going to eat them.
This one is?
They go on vacation in July.
So they're going to pig heaven.

(48:13):
They're going to pig heaven, sweet curbs.
Sweetheart, they think they're going to the Bahamas.
They're going to the spa.
They're going to get nice and massaged and tendered up.
All right, shoot, man.
Let's listen to some tunes.
Let's see, you said Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson.

(48:34):
Let me ask you this.
Who's your queen of country?
Queen of country?
Well, Dali Pardon.
God bless her heart.
Michael can stay.
He's welcome back.
Michael can stay.
She's got her own amusement park.
I know. Have you been there?
I've driven by it.
I was on a Harley ride.
Me and my dad, we drove by.
I didn't go there.
I didn't go in there.
Travis Ross, just so you know.

(48:55):
We rode to Dollywood.
It's on my bucket list.
You want to go there?
I would love it.
We could take a motorcycle ride.
Iron butt ride.
It's in a beautiful part of the country, man.
Iron butt ride, I know.
That's a long way on a Harley ride, sweet curbs.
I've done it myself, but...
What if we fly and then run to Harley?
Yeah, I'd probably do that.
Yeah, it's cheating.
Run around a little bit.

(49:16):
I know, dude.
Don't make fun of me.
No, I would totally do that.
I would totally fly somewhere and run to Harley.
All the time.
I've done that a couple times.
No, I did do that one time.
It's so easy.
Flew into Atlanta and then...
See, that or you're in a Scion.
How do you want to get there?
You're in a Scion.
Prius.
Yeah.
No, no Priuses.
All right.
Here we go.

(49:37):
All right.
Let's listen to some tunes.
Back through the years, I go wandering once again.
Back to the seasons of my youth, I recall a box of rags that someone gave us.

(49:59):
And how my mama put the rags to use.
There were rags of many colors, but every piece was small.
And I didn't have a coat, and it was a way down in the fall.
Mama sold the rags together, so in every piece with love, she made my coat of many colors

(50:25):
that I was so proud of.
As she sold, she told a story from the Bible she had read about a coat of many colors.
Joseph wore, and then she said, perhaps this coat will bring you good luck and happiness.
And I just couldn't wait to wear it, and mama blessed it with a kiss.

(50:53):
My coat of many colors that my mama made for me, made only from rags, but I wore it
so proudly.
Although we had no money, I was rich as I could be.
In my coat of many colors, my mama made for me.

(51:21):
So with patches on my britches, and holes in both my shoes, in my coat of many colors,
I hurried off to school just to find the others laughing and making fun of me.
And my coat of many colors, my mama made for me.

(51:44):
And oh, I couldn't understand it, for I felt I was rich.
And I told them all the love my mama sold in every stitch.
And I told them all the story mama told me while she sold, and how my coat of many colors
was worth more than all their clothes.

(52:08):
But they didn't understand it, and I tried to make them see that one is only poor, only
if they choose to be.
Now I know we had no money, but I was rich as I could be.
In my coat of many colors, my mama made for me, made just for me.

(52:36):
I got home from Wichita a couple days before I thought I didn't recognize a truck parked
in my driveway.
My boots hit the hardwood floor, busted through the bedroom door.

(52:59):
Guess I must have caught you by surprise.
By the time it got his buckle on, I'd hit the safe and grabbed my gun.
You were begging me with tears in your eyes.
Screaming, baby, let him go.
You don't want that on your soul.
I said a man is gonna die tonight.
I'm chasing tail lights straight as a crow flies, hunting just to stand a country road.

(53:27):
I've got a shotgun, it's right a shotgun, and we're both fixing to unload.
Son, I know what you've done.
There's only one way to outrun me.
You better pray your tank don't beat my knee.

(54:00):
Just flew past the county line, that needle's pushing 95.
I'm on you like a shadow move for move.
All you see is my headlights.
I see the whites in your eyes, that fear mirrored in your rear view.
Go ahead and ride gas.
Don't think that you're living, man, just cause you make it past dead man's curb.

(54:25):
Man, as far as I can tell, we might both end up in hell, but you're sure as hell going first.

(54:51):
There's only one way to outrun me.

(55:21):

(55:42):
There's only one way you can outrun me.

(56:17):
Well, it was all that I could do to keep from crying.
Sometimes it seems so useless to remain.

(56:42):
But you don't have to call me darling, darling.
You never even call me by my name.
You don't have to call me Wailing Jenny.

(57:11):
And you don't have to call me Charlie Price.
And you don't have to call me Merle Haggard anymore.
Even though you're on my fighting side.

(57:38):
And I'll hang around as long as you will let me.
And I never minded standing in the rain.

(58:06):
Well, I've heard my name a few times in your phone book.
And I've seen it on signs where I've played.

(58:33):
But the only time I know, I'll hear David Allen call.
Is when Jesus has his final judgment day.
So I'll hang around as long as you will let me.

(59:00):
And I never minded standing in the rain.

(59:28):
Well, a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song.
And he told me it was the perfect country and western song.
I wrote him back a letter and I told him it was not the perfect country and western song.
Because he hadn't said anything at all about mama.
Or trains.
Or trucks.
Or presents.

(59:50):
Or getting drunk.
Well, he sat down and wrote another verse to the song and he sent it to me.
And after reading it I realized that my friend had written the perfect country and western song.
And I felt obliged to include it on this album.
The last verse goes like this here.

(01:00:12):
Well, I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison.
And I went to pick her up in the rain.
But before I could get to the station in the pick-up truck.

(01:00:42):
She got run over by a damned old train.
And I'll hang around as long as you will let me.
And I never mind standing in the rain.

(01:01:08):
You don't have to call me darling.
Darling.
You don't have to ever even call me.
Well, I wonder why you don't call me.
Why don't you ever call me by my name?

(01:01:33):
Oh.
I'm going to give a shout out to my good friend Clarence.
Because that's our theme song.
I was just thinking every time as I was playing, every time I hear this song I think of Clarence.
How did that come about?
I don't know.
So I think we played it one time.
Travis started playing it and then Clarence would yell, theme song.

(01:01:56):
He's like, oh, I love that song.
And then it became the theme song.
I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison.
And then he just started singing along.
Yep.
That's a great song.
All right. So there's this thing in Ramona called the RVVA.
Ramona Valley Vineyard Association.
Ramona Valley. See, I told you, sweet curves.

(01:02:18):
Oh, it is Vineyard.
Oh, I thought it was Vintners.
No.
OK.
So what is that?
You were right.
So the first time you ever hear of this.
Oh, what?
Wait, can I hear that again?
Record it now.
No.
I should have said when I said first.
First and only.
First and only time I've been right.
Yeah.
Ramona Valley Vineyard Association was established to get all the people growing grapes together as a collective.

(01:02:43):
And it does encompass all the wineries as well.
So it's a really fun group to get all the information that you'd ever want to know about growing grapes and making wine.
And I think one of the things we usually take away from is don't do it.
It's a ton of work.
Everybody sits around the table and goes, here's all the reasons I'm dumb.

(01:03:04):
You've heard of labor of love, heavy on the labor.
Misery loves company.
So my dream of owning a winery would actually be a nightmare.
Well, I mean, owning a winery, you know, it's pretty fun.
Got all the wine you could ever drink.
So we had a friend that I used to go snowboarding with up in Mammoth.

(01:03:26):
And he came to my winery one day.
And this was, you know, when we still had on the old patio and it's real small, right.
And he's he puts his arm around me, goes, dude, you own a fucking winery.
And I looked at him, I go, I do want a fucking winery.
How many wines were you on when you're I'm sure 10 deep tricking some of that tequila.

(01:03:53):
I was like, I never looked at it that way.
So so you guys grow your own.
Obviously, that's not enough to fulfill all of the lines that you guys make.
Where else do you guys get grapes from?
So we harvest.
We actually manage a vineyard on the west side of Ramona that has a couple of different grapefruits.
Sauvignon Blanc and the San Gavési that we turn the San Gavési into rosé.
That's our wild rose.

(01:04:15):
So that's just like they just grow, grow, grow the grapes.
We manage the whole thing.
So we consider it our state grapes because we do the whole process.
And then we buy grapes from a couple other wineries, one about five miles from us by Inna Valley Ranch through KDC Farms.
They grow a bunch of different varieties that we don't grow on our property and like Tempranillo, Allianico, Alborrino, Riesling, a bunch of different varieties.

(01:04:43):
Grenache.
And you guys have made bling before.
We don't want to bling.
We don't want to. We can't.
We're not allowed to call it champagne.
We call it champagne.
So we call it bling. It's an off dry pink champagne.
And it sells so fast we just can't keep it.
Yeah.
So we're looking at doing it again.
But you know, I mean, sparkling wine is a very, very arduous process.

(01:05:04):
So it's one of those things it takes a long time to do.
Where I think we're.
So for the sparkling wine, do you do you bottle it before the fermentation completes or do you pre or do you do you recarbonate it post.
So there's.
So if you if you bottle it before the fermentation completes, that's called a pet net.
Oh, petulant natural.

(01:05:25):
And that's an actual French wine that they make.
And it's cloudy, not clear, like sparkling or champagne.
The champagne or sparkling wine, you reintroduce sugar yeast into the bottle, cap it, and then it ferments in the bottle.
You riddle it, which means you get all the cinnamon into the neck.

(01:05:46):
You freeze it with dry ice and then you get that part out of there.
You top it up with you can make it sweet at that point if you want to.
It's called dosage.
And then you put the cork in it in the cage on it.
Holy cow.
Huge process.
That is a lot of work.
That's a huge process.

(01:06:07):
So I remember we were we were at Ramona Ranch Winery, me and Sweet Curbs.
And it was back when it was on your back porch.
And you all had some of that sparkling bling bling.
And Sweet Curbs had bought a little bottle of orange juice to bring with us so we could have mimosas with it.
And I've never seen the look on Terry's face when she's all, I can't believe you're putting orange juice in that.

(01:06:31):
She's a purist.
She was so upset.
I can't believe you're putting orange juice in that.
Yeah, but it's delicious.
Meanwhile, they're the ones that make a spritzer and sangria, adulterate wine all day long.
I'm the purist.
They slap that wine around all day.

(01:06:53):
We had like a little bottle of friggin' Minute Maid orange juice.
We were like, oh, we brought it for that.
It wasn't Minute Maid.
It was at least from Ramona.
Oh yeah, it was good.
It was good.
Terry shamed you.
It was a bomb friggin' mimosas.
Oh man.
One of the best mimosas I've ever had.
I think you invented a new, we're going to call it, we have to call it blingmosa.

(01:07:18):
Blingmosa.
It's a blush champagne with orange juice.
It looked, it was like a red and orange color.
You know they do over at Farmer House 78.
I was just going to say that, with the grenadine.
Yeah, exactly.
Sunset, what do they call it?
Oh yeah, the mimosas.
The pomegranate.

(01:07:39):
No, no, but what do they call it?
They call it like a mimosa or the sunset something.
Like they call it, it's a different name.
Something sunset, sunshine, something.
Whoa.
Whoa.
It sounded like a mousetrap, watch out.
The whiskey glass got stuck to the coaster.
Yeah, we always do the bottomless.
So Cassie enjoys having cranberry, just a little bit of cranberry in her bubble wine.

(01:08:02):
And it's weird how you go around the country and you just want to order that, right?
You want to order the mimosas, but instead of orange juice, use cranberry.
And some regions call it a hibiscus, some regions call it this.
And she just goes, I just want to just change the color a little bit with some, that's it.
See, at that point I don't think I'd care.
I'd just be like, champagne, everyone knows what that is.

(01:08:24):
Champagne.
Oh yeah.
Well yeah, so Sweet Curves getting in her older age now, she's over 40.
I will kill you.
I'm not over 40.
Hey, put the knife away.
I am 40 years old.
She did ask me to turn her headphones up a little bit louder today.
And holding.
I am not over 40.
What?
Anyways, finish your story.

(01:08:45):
Well, we used to do mimosas and we would just do the champagne and then just your typical size amount of maybe a bottle cap full of orange juice.
Now she's like, I'm like half of a cap of orange juice.
That's way too much.
I'm looking out for you.

(01:09:06):
Just for the color.
I'm looking out for you.
I'm much younger and I know the orange juice gives you heartburn.
She just smells the orange juice and drinks it.
Not even orange juice.
I crack in the orange.
I just pee a little.
She's going to smell it.
Take it back.
Now we drink the champagne.
That's just orange oil.

(01:09:27):
She just squeezes the rind out.
We are like with an old fashioned way to rub it around the glass a little.
Get the oils.
That's what she does with the mimosas.
We're in tequila and my buddy's like, you can't drink tequila in the morning.
I go, bullshit.
Tequila sunrise.
It's in the name of the town.
What?

(01:09:48):
What am I supposed to drink at tequila?
Do you make tequila milkshakes?
Can I get one?
Is that called tequila sunset?
Tequila sunrise.
Milk and tequila, no.
Oh no.
That would be terrible.
What's in a tequila sunrise?
It's tequila.
Grenadine orange juice.
Orange juice and grenadine.
That's right.

(01:10:09):
Yeah.
It's like sparkling.
It's like champagne.
Put a little bubble in there.
It's so good the Eagles wrote a song about it.
That's true.
Just another tequila sunrise.
Yeah, you're right.
They did write a song about that.
Son of a bitch.
Thank you for affirming that.
Like I didn't make up an Eagles song.
I thought you were making an Eagles song.

(01:10:31):
They actually did.
Son of a bitch.
It's a good song.
It's a great song.
The Eagles are amazing.
It's a good song.
A buddy of mine, so we were in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago and I was over there for a couple nights and my co-pilot, a buddy of mine, went to see the Eagles in the sphere in Las Vegas.
Like 3,000 bucks a ticket.

(01:10:52):
He said, you will never see a show that frickin' amazing.
Because I've never been in the sphere.
I've seen videos.
360 degree up over and around.
He says you get motion sick.
They did this part of the concert, I guess, where they were falling off of a high rise.
And the whole audience just had to sit down because the whole thing was like the whole.
No, I want to drink at a concert.

(01:11:14):
I don't want to get sick from your special effects.
They were only supposed to do like one month there and they end up going longer.
Like I got a residency now.
I don't know.
I don't know all the details.
They had sold so many shows that they had to extend it.
I haven't been to that sphere yet.
Have you been there?
I haven't been inside.
I've driven past it a hundred times.
Yeah, I've driven past it.

(01:11:35):
Yeah, I've never been in, but I've seen like videos of people in there and the video and the whole thing.
I feel like I don't think I would like it.
Didn't a dude get banned for smoking weed in there?
He did.
Look it up.
No, no, seriously.
This guy got banned from the sphere for smoking weed in there for life.
What?

(01:11:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
We can't go, babe.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a slow bit weed.
You know what?
Honestly, I don't think I'd want to be in there if I was on weed or.
That's the only way to go.
You're getting this whole experience.
No.
I just found the article.
It is kind of funny.
He goes, a fish ban.
Yeah, fish.
Yeah, fish.
The band was banned from the sphere and other Madison Square Garden Entertainment operator

(01:12:18):
was after taking a bong hit at a 420 show in Las Vegas.
Oh my God.
Totally.
It was all.
But what's wild is it's a show in Las Vegas and it's not like he did a line of cocaine
off like the stage, like smoked weed.
Oh, look at this.
In Vegas.
It says they did rescind the ban finally.
Oh, did they finally?
After all.
Wow.
After all.

(01:12:39):
A bub.
Like, sorry boss.
I smoked bong.
Though he can return, it is still against our policies, which are in accordance with local
laws to smoke at the venue.
Yeah.
So it was just like a smoking ticket.
So to be clear, he was in the band.
If I don't get caught.
No, he wasn't in the band.
Oh, he wasn't.
He was in the stands.
Yeah.
But I'm trying to figure out.
I was just asking questions.
He smuggled it into his backpack because it says it was a bong.

(01:13:00):
I mean, it's not like he just took a, like he took a bong hit at a 420 show in Las Vegas.
Maybe he had it taped to his leg or something.
I don't know.
My best friend in high school brought her bong to grad night in a little miniature Jansport
backpack.
And at the end of the night, they started talking about, we're searching backpacks and if we
find anything, you're not going to be able to graduate.

(01:13:21):
And she was freaking out.
And I was like, why would you put a bong in your backpack to begin with, to come to this
school to spend the night for grad night?
You know, we're going to be here from nine to six AM.
I know they had sneak a toke back then.
That's when you just do a joint.
Why would you do that?
If you get caught, just throw it out.

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Oh man.
We got to do a shout out to our sponsor, the barn.
We love the barn.
They have this really cool thing going on on Tuesdays over there.
It's a barn on Main Street.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
That's really cool thing on Tuesdays going on.
What's going on on Tuesdays?
They have live music in the lounge area in the back area.
Dude, they have super nice couches, freaking nice little seats.

(01:14:07):
We typically go there, listen to whoever's playing.
I play there sometimes.
And then we get the old fashions.
They're pretty good.
They have the little cherry.
What kind of cherry is that?
I don't know.
What's it called?
What's the old fashioned cherry?
It's like a lump.
Not the maraschino cherry.
The really dark one.
It starts with an L.
Really flavorful.
I'm going to Google it right now.
They're like super good.

(01:14:28):
Yeah, but they're super good old fashions in there.
So yeah, they have live music going on on Tuesdays.
Usually have full bands during weekends.
They have line dancing on Thursdays, I believe.
Lagsardo.
They are maraschino cherries, but they're very concentrated.
There they are.
I don't know.
I had the right terminology right there.
Lagsardo.
Very concentrated.

(01:14:49):
Very concentrated.
They're darker than the regular maraschino?
They sit there for a while and they think.
It says, Lagsardo, the original maraschino cherry.
Gourmet Italian cherries.
Oh man.
Look at the color compared to normal maraschino cherries that are like.
Oh yeah, those are pretty dark.

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Pretty flavorful, but they go very well with the old fashions that we get there.
But they have really good food too.
I usually get the bar and chicken.
It's like a grilled half chicken, mashed potatoes, onions.
Good stuff.
If you're down the hill and you want to come up to Ramona, come on out and hang out at
the bar and have live music and good food.
It's on 344 Main Street, Ramona, California.

(01:15:33):
What's your favorite meal at the barn?
Like I said, it's probably the barn chicken.
Oh, you know what I had last time?
I had that pasta.
I know I took the leftovers for lunch.
It was pretty good.
Yeah, they had a good, pretty good pasta.
There it was pretty delicious.
So thank you Vito and the barn over there for sponsoring this crazy show.
Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show on Ramona radio.

(01:15:54):
Yeah, there you go.
All right.
I got to take a shot.
Are we doing a shot?
You guys want to do a shot?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
What do we got?
Sweet Curbs, gentlemen, Jack, you know what?
Here's to here's to the here's to Ramona radio.
I mean, I feel like I have a lot more than just like a swig.
Reach it.
Don't leave out the producer.

(01:16:17):
Don't leave out the producer.
Eric is the man behind.
Eric's in the booth where the magic happens, man.
The wizard.
I never get to hear my things.
I'm going to give a shout out to Ramona radio and Eric.
Here we go.
Eric's in the booth where the magic happens, man.
He can play that guitar while no one's in the stand.

(01:16:41):
I don't like people looking at me.
I'm going to go open mic night one of these nights and say everybody turn around.
Turn around.
Yep.
Turn around.
Face the wall.
You were playing in here.
Who was here?
Rose Lee.
Oh, yes.
And I turned around and I was like, did I just hear Eric play?

(01:17:02):
Jim Morrison that used to like turn his back to the crowd to sing when he first started.
I know that was Jimi Hendrix.
No, Jim Morrison.
Jim Morrison.
That's what I do.
If I face the audience, I sound like Roseanne Barr.
If I turn around Adele.
There you go.
Adele.
That's the trick.
I can't hold a tune in a bucket.
No, that's me for sure.
And when we first started, I was like, I'm going to go to the studio.
I'm going to go to the studio.

(01:17:22):
I like to sing, I like to sing, but only in the car by myself.
Or in the shower.
When we first started dating, people would tell me, what do you play?
Do you sing?
What do you do?
Are you a musician?
Like none of the above.
None of the above.
I'm a good listener.
Good listener.
I'll listen.

(01:17:43):
I could sing along off key.
Real good.
Sure listen to my music, but she won't listen to me talk sometimes.
Really?
She's a good listener.
Well, how did you guys meet in the first place?
Yeah, that's a good story.
If you're asking that question, you didn't know her for a while.
Have we ever talked about how we met, Swickers?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Did we?

(01:18:03):
Episode two?
No, I'm just kidding.
How we met is we had a mutual friend that Travis was in a band called Chasing the Sun.
It was a bass player and a husband and wife singer and he played guitar.
They were moving, they needed somewhere to stay.
Travis had rooms.
Come move in with me.
Okay, great.

(01:18:23):
So the wife was a massage therapist.
She did my massage.
We were friends.
Hey, can you help me move?
Okay.
So I helped her move in with him, her husband met him and then.
And then I bumped into her.
I thought she was pretty.
She was cute.
She's so pretty.
I was cute, but.
That's how it starts.
No, no, no.
I am pretty.
We didn't start dating probably for almost two years, like a year and a half.

(01:18:51):
No, it was like over a year.
We were friends.
And then you wear her down.
No, he had a girlfriend.
Actually, I had a girlfriend at the time and she was good friends with with that girlfriend
and I don't know.
Something didn't something that happened.
Something didn't happen with the girlfriend.
We're hanging out with her one day.
We're a little bit drunk.
I think we're on mushrooms or something.

(01:19:11):
Just kidding.
We were a little bit drunk.
We're probably drunk.
We're not exactly Eric.
I don't know what you're talking about.
He took a turn.
No, so yeah, we just started.
So he drugged me and now I'm stuck.
Please help me.

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Kirby bleep three times.
So yeah, that's how that turned out.
There you go.
And now here we are.
Where did you take her on your first date?
First date?
I was with my girlfriend and she came along.

(01:19:55):
I think it was the Carlos.
That was not our first date.
That's weird.
Well, that was the first time I hung out with you.
No, on the dinner.
I was with my girlfriend at the time and she came and hung out.
I was like, hey, I'm on my good friend.
Kirby's gonna come and hang out.
I was a skies are the brightest in the sky, but even I know that's the right answer.
Okay, so here's what happened.

(01:20:16):
So me and my girlfriend at the time, we were going to get some dinner and I don't know
if you'd messaged me or something.
I was like, hey, we're going to go get some dinner over at it was the Carla and she's
like, yeah, I'll cruise by because you were friends with her.
I want to know that's not a date.
But I paid.

(01:20:40):
Still paying.
I'm the pants off.
Okay, Travis, I'm going to try this again.
At some point, it took him two years.
Okay, you see what he's working with.
So that's why I say we were friends longer than we were like, because it was at some

(01:21:02):
point you said, hey, let's go somewhere.
Just you and I am hang out.
Well, no, to be fair, though, we hung out before we were ever dating one on one, but
it wasn't anything like inappropriate.
I can see why he's struggling to decide what specific day he should say.

(01:21:22):
See, I don't know.
Travis, just let her tell us.
Just go, dude, I don't want to get.
I honestly don't remember.
Listen, I don't want to sleep on the couch tonight.
Okay.
There wasn't really anything romantic.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.

(01:21:42):
So yeah, we're just having fun.
I think we went to Jack in the Box or something.
Oh, no, it wasn't Jack in the Box because that was when Jack in the Box was burned down
or something.
No, that was like two years ago.
That was the idea.
I was like, all right, sweet curbs, going to Jack in the Box.
I want some.
I want some.
I hope you all listening understand what I have to deal with.

(01:22:06):
I want some bacon, cheddar, cheese, wedges.
And then they didn't have them because called you.
Say you're pretty swell.
I want to go get some bacon, cheddar, wedges.
They might not have any tonight.
And then we went for ice cream at the McDonald's and they didn't.
That didn't happen because the freaking machine didn't work.

(01:22:32):
This is a true story about the McDonald's in Ramona probably 20 years ago.
I had gone to dinner with my mom and dad.
I didn't live at home anymore, but we were all in one car.
And my mom was like, I want an ice cream cone from McDonald's.
So my dad's like, OK, we'll stop and get an ice cream cone before we go back to the cars.
We go through the drive through.

(01:22:53):
My dad orders three vanilla ice cream cones.
And the lady goes, we ain't got no ice cream cones.
And my dad without missing a beat turns back to my mom and I goes, they ain't got no ice
cream cones.
It's like relaying the message.
They ain't got no ice cream cones.

(01:23:14):
But just the way the lady said it, she was so.
You're like, please don't be the stereotype of Ramona.
No, she was like, and that's the thing.
She wasn't rude, but she was just like, matter of fact, like, listen, baby, we ain't got
no ice cream tonight.
I feel like, damn it, that's why I came here.
So now I got to get out of this drive through line so I could just go on around about my

(01:23:35):
business and maybe go to a.
We already had that, you know, we had to wait at this one.
What's the other ice cream place here in Ramona?
Baskin Robbins.
Oh, Baskin Robbins.
And then Cold Stone was over there.
Oh, we had a Cold Stone.
Oh, I love it.
Cold Stone.
Yeah, right by the Ransomburg.
But did I love Cold Stone or did I love the gimmick of them like chopping up my toppings
in front of me?

(01:23:55):
Like working like crazy.
All right.
So let me tell you about Cold Stone.
It was like the Betty Hanna of ice cream.
Yes.
Let me tell you about that.
They're flicking M&Ms over the counter.
Toss a couple in your mouth.
If you catch a whole Reese's mini cup, you get a free ice cream.
Oh, man, I got a funny story about I worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken when I was like

(01:24:20):
17.
Colonel Sanders.
Yeah.
I was working the drive through and this guy comes up to the drive through and he goes,
I want a large diet Pepsi.
You dumb shit.
And I'm like, I'm like, he's so better.
Yeah.

(01:24:41):
Look at the people.
I mean, they're like Pepsi and what was that?
I was like, excuse me.
I don't think I understood you.
Can you please repeat the order?
He goes, I want a diet Pepsi.
You dumb shit.
All right.
Clearly we have a failure to communicate.
So I said, sir, can you please pull up to the window?

(01:25:02):
And so he pulls up the window.
He goes, I want a diet Pepsi and two drumsticks.
That is not what I heard.
Do you think that's what you didn't hear or what he did say?
He probably messed with you.
All right.
I was like, Oh my God.
You dumb shit.
I was like, I don't know.
I've been working here that long.
Damn.

(01:25:29):
How did they piss this guy off?
Yeah.
And then one time, uh, this lady pulled up in a, I handed her soda.
This little hand reached out from behind her head and grabbed the straw.
It's like, Whoa, what was that?
This is a raccoon.
This lady had on her shoulder.
Yeah.
She had a pet raccoon.
She goes, Oh, I'm sorry.

(01:25:49):
You like straws.
Can I have another one?
Holy in Oregon.
I got my pet raccoon.
Yeah.
So ma'am, here's what's going to happen.

(01:26:13):
You get one plastic straw.
Now I'm gonna have to hand you a paper one.
Okay.
Only in California.
You can wrestle him for the plastic one, but it'd be like this raccoon's not going to shove
it up his nose.
That's only turtle.
We're giving you one turtle.
Now nobody gets straws.
Yeah.
Three orders of wonton soup.
No.
And then cookies too.
And then I think that's about it.
And then I think that's about it.

(01:26:35):
I'm not sure I think that's about it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's it.
No.
That's it.
And then?
No.
And then.
That's it.
This dude's where's my car?
Yeah.

(01:26:56):
I love him.
And then and then and then.
And then I'm done.
Then nothing else because I'm done ordering, okay.
And then?
No.
No.
See, all I want is the three orders of the garlic chicken and the three orders of the
white rice.
And the soup dude.
The soup dude.
And then and a cookie's fortune and the end of fortune cookies yet, so it's just the it's the the chicken the rice

(01:27:25):
The suit and that's it and that's so funny. What does my tattoo say sweet?
Oh man that's the more we drink the more simple we're simple creature hey Kirby I do have a question for you

(01:27:59):
Because you're Irish so if people in Ireland were to make a wristwatch, okay, what would it be?
I don't know. I feel like this is a dad joke set up. No, it's a simple question
A wristwatch made in Ireland because they want feel like it might be
It definitely is a dad joke, but okay

(01:28:19):
So something to be being pale
No
I have no idea tell me tell me I have no idea. What do you mean you're pale?
It would be Irish
Wristwatch don't you agree? What it's a simple question
What would it be an Irish?
I just need you to say it Irish

(01:28:42):
wristwatch
Irish wristwatch that's a tongue twister Irish
Wrist wristwatch. That's hard to say Irish wristwatch Irish wristwatch
What I can say though I can Peter Piper it like a mother

(01:29:03):
But I can Peter Piper it like there's no tomorrow no, you know most people can't say an Irish
Wristwatch an Irish
See you can only say that cuz you're Irish
Well, it took me seven times to go so to be fair I didn't like come out the gate

(01:29:25):
Irish wristwatch
Okay, your turn Irish wristwatch no, no just say it just say it Irish wristwatch
It's not easy
No

(01:29:51):
You can't just yell it no if I say it's slow
Irish wristwatch, but if I say fast Irish wristwatch Irish
Hey, can I tell y'all a really cool story happen happen media that you have to I mean I don't have to but I can
I want to I want to tell you I really it's pretty cool pretty cool story

(01:30:13):
So I was at Ramona cafe a couple weeks ago and I was eating breakfast
I was by myself because I was waiting for sweet curbs to get done with work and I was just you know halfway through the
food and everything and
Though the waiter comes up and she says hey those people over there
Bought your breakfast, but they had just left and I saw him leave those

(01:30:34):
I didn't even pay any attention, but you know who they were I had no idea who they were they they had left and
She's all hey those people that just left that were sitting in the corner. They're just bought your breakfast for you
I was like, but what?
Well, I was like I didn't pay attention. I didn't know who they were
He said let me get out of here for them and we pay for someone else
No, no, no, so it was cool. It was cool. It was cool. So I was like, well

(01:30:57):
She's like so you don't have a tab and I'm well shit. I got okay
So I asked her so I was on the other side of the cafe and then there's the other side
You can't see so I was like is there anybody over there that is by themselves
Setting me ordering nothing but coffee ordering nothing but coffee and maybe a sweet and low

(01:31:20):
Starbucks where I've gotten like
$5 coffee and they're like the car in front of you bought it. I'm like, oh I'll get the car behind me and they're like
That's 28 75 and I'm like, no
I made sure it was just for a single person eating food
So it was cool cuz I said is there anybody over there eating by themselves?

(01:31:42):
So she's like, let me go check so she walks over she's is there anyone in here who likes outlaw country? Can you?
No, so I paid it forward so I bought that dude's breakfast for him
I don't even know who it is, but that was a pretty cool story. Somebody somebody bought me that somebody

(01:32:03):
For she saw they said that you look like a hard-working man
I just didn't shower yesterday. That's all I know I wear a steel hard hat
I got boots and we're boots Alabama. No books and done

(01:32:23):
Hammer and paint do things with my hands
So dude was that one of your first jobs working at a fast food no, I started as a
Landscaper one of the hardest jobs. How old how old were you when you were 13 13?
13 and then I worked then I worked at a skeet shooting place where I was the guy in the little thing that flew

(01:32:49):
The I had a little flag when I wanted to come out
Yeah, we worked at this place the skeet shooting place it was cool me my buddy in Stockton, California
And we'd stock all the clays and everything in the towers and everything and then on the weekends

(01:33:13):
We'd go there and he was the guy that pushed the button and I was the guy down there setting the clays
I got the shitty job
I'm going for the car
I'm going for the cart

(01:33:37):
Yeah, I was those my two first jobs are fun and then and then yeah, then I got into the fast food
Cuz I'm in you're in high school
I never worked at a fast food place. I did apply either missed out
I did apply for Burger King one time, but I didn't qualify. I didn't have enough

(01:33:58):
I didn't have enough. I'm thinking in my mind. I didn't have enough
I didn't have enough pimples on my head cuz I don't know what it was with the kids that you know
Work, but dude, I worked I worked three jobs. I worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken
KB Toy Store and I was a floor guard DJ at a roller skating rink

(01:34:23):
Do you know or guard and I had a muller? Oh wait, did you use the roller skate?
I can rex I can rex like the best
You're going backwards
You know what I do I'd set the the record to go
CDs at that time and then I'd go I'd go floor guard and I'd rex and I and I had a mullet

(01:34:49):
It even gets better I drove with 1973 Chevy Nova primer
You want to talk you read you want to talk about redneck you got to send us heavy. I got him
I still got I want I want those
My best friend from middle school her stepdad was a professional

(01:35:11):
in-line skater and he had videos of like the race ones, right the what they race
You know like couple skating like over think of figure skating but like but on in line force
Yeah, like four states still got my inline skates and they have these like elaborate outfits and they would do these turns and like
It was why I didn't do that shit. They get like all into it like backwards

(01:35:37):
Fancy like same thing like with figure skating like the lifts are like she's got one wheel on the ground
And he's spinning her in a circle as they're like turning it makes fun of me. I was gonna say if you ever take a Terry skating
No, no, she's never been skating. What do we need to take?
Well, I don't know man she makes fun of me she's like you were a

(01:35:59):
Sounds like it sounds like a date night
You and Terry
Eric Cassie, we're going to go to a skating ring. You don't want to skate with me
I was great. We can do so much. I'm a professional
It's that would be awesome. Is there any skating rinks?

(01:36:22):
No, are there any skating?
I know there's like up down. Oh, that's where I went. Yeah years. I know there's the ice skating rink
Isn't that it? I mean I can skate in the loop without touching the wall, but I can't do anything fancy
Dude, do they make? Do they make?
But instead of like to shoe but like a cowboy boot kind of thing

(01:36:45):
We can figure that out
You might need training wheels
Skate World in San Diego
Oh that's a La Mesa
One two three four five there's seven of them. Oh snap. Oh, well, that's in Huntington Beach. That's a little far north from Escondido South
There's one two three four. There's five of them
Skate World is La Mesa? We're gonna have to we're gonna have to I'll get a mullet wig. Yeah, I'll get a mullet wig too

(01:37:09):
Nice. I can do some skating. I can just cut your hair like it is in a mullet. How about that?
Get out of here. What we're gonna do what we'll do is we'll dress up like 80s get a mullet. I'll
I can just wear my normal hair
mullet
I've got a mullet wig in the house

(01:37:30):
I should like totally bring it out
With some bell bottom pants
Hell yeah
We're running out of time here. Let's play one more break here
Alright. One more music break
What do we want to listen to?
I got Waylon Jennings, Steve Burrow, David Allen Cowell
Waylon, David Allen Cowell
You okay with any of those?
All of those

(01:37:52):
The only two things in life that make it worth living
Is guitars are too good and firm feeling women
I don't need my name in the marquee lights
I got my song and I got you with me tonight
Maybe it's time we got back to the basics of love

(01:38:16):
Let's go to Luke and Doc Texas
With Waylon and Willie and the boys
This successful life we're living
Got us feuding like the Hatfields and McCoys
Between Hank Williams' pain songs

(01:38:39):
And Blueberry's train songs
And Blue Eyes crying in the rain
Out of Luke and Doc Texas
Ain't nobody feeling no pain

(01:39:00):
So baby let's sell your diamond ring
Buy some boots and faded jeans and go away
This cold and tight is choking me
And in your high society you cry all day
We've been so busy keeping up with the Jones

(01:39:23):
Four car garage and we're still building on
Maybe it's time we got back to the basics of love

(01:39:46):
And Blueberry's train songs

(01:40:07):

(01:40:32):
And Jerry Jeff train songs

(01:41:44):
Well, my name's John LePedimore
Same as my daddy and his daddy before
You hardly ever saw a friend, daddy, down here
They only come to town about twice a year

(01:42:08):
By a hundred pounds a year you stand some copper line
Everybody knew that you made me shine
I'm a revenue man on a granddaddy bed
Headed up a holler with everything I had
Before my time, well, I've been told

(01:42:30):
You'll never come back from Copperhead Road
I had a better end of whiskey and a big black dot
Gee, I bought it at an auction at the Mason's lot

(01:42:55):
Johnson County Sheriff painted on the side
They just shot a coat of primer and looked inside
Well, in my mouth I tore that engine down
I still remember that rumbling sound

(01:43:19):
Then the sheriff came around in the middle of the night
Heard mama crying that something wasn't right
He was headed down to Knoxville with a weakly load
You could smell a whiskey burning down Copperhead Road

(01:44:01):
I volunteered for the Army on my birthday
To draft a white dress first round here in the way
I've done two tours of duty in Vietnam

(01:44:23):
I came home with a brand new plan
I'm taking a seat from Columbia, Mexico
I just planted up a holler down Copperhead Road
Now the D.A.'s got a chopper in the air

(01:44:45):
Wig out screaming like I'm back over there
I learned a thing or two from Charlie, don't you know
You'd better stay away from Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road

(01:45:35):
Well, I was thumbing from Montgomery
I had my guitar on my back
When a stranger stopped beside me in an antique Cadillac
He was dressed like 1950, half drunk and hollow eyed

(01:45:57):
He said, it's a long walk to Nashville, would you like to ride some?
I sat down in the front seat
He turned on the radio
And them sad old songs coming out of them speakers were solid country gold

(01:46:19):
Then I noticed the stranger was Ghost White P.E.A.R. when he asked me for a light
And I knew there was something strange about this ride
He said, Drifter, can you make folks cry when you play and sing?
Have you paid your dues? Can you mow the blues? Can you bend them guitar strings?

(01:46:42):
He said, boy, can you make folks feel what you feel inside?
Cause if you're big star bound, let me warn you, it's a long, hard walk
Then he cried just south of Nashville and he turned that car around

(01:47:05):
He said, this is where you get off, boy, cause I'm going back to Alabama
As I stepped out of that Cadillac, I said, Mr., many thanks
He said, you don't have to call me Mr., Mr.
The whole world called me Hank

(01:47:29):

(01:47:52):
If you're big star bound, let me warn you, it's a long, hard ride

(01:48:15):
You know, you got a lot of competition out there now, son
It ain't like it was in the 50s when I was here
I mean, you got Waylon Dennings, Willie Nelson, Guy Clark, Billy Joe Schaeffer, David Allen Cole
And you even got my son
Oh, man, good old David Allen Cole

(01:48:38):
That's one of my favorite songs by David Allen Cole
Besides the theme song that we played earlier today
You don't have to call me by my name
That one was called The Ride
We did two David Allen Coes?
We did two David Allen Coes this show, my friend
And I appreciate that, I love that
I ain't got no beefs but that
We're hanging out with Michael Moore from Ramona Ranch Whitery

(01:48:59):
Just hanging out, drinking, just hanging out
Just hanging out, drinking some whiskey's
And smoking and joking
Doing all of our fun stuff
Smoking and joking
Smoking and joking
We got to give a shout out to Dean, Outlaw BBQ for sponsoring the show
Michael, have you ever had Dean's Outlaw BBQ?
Nobody wants to party with salad
You already know
The best meats money can buy

(01:49:23):
Nobody wants to party with salads
You got to have the meat
And Dean from Outlaw BBQ's got it
Give him a call today
He's great, man
Hell yeah
Give him a call today
858-354-771 to book your next outdoor event
Whether it be a wedding or a divorce
It doesn't matter, he sponsors
He caters anything
He's an equal opportunity feeder

(01:49:45):
Everybody will be fat and happy by the end of it
You get food
What if it's a baby shower?
If it's a baby shower
He'll still host it?
He'll host it
He'll probably do baby back ribs or something like that
You're stupid
You're stupid
Baby back ribs
Nice
Baby back ribs
Whose baby is he using?

(01:50:07):
Come on now
We're being serious here
I tell you what
I don't know
That's probably it
Thank you, Dean, for sponsoring the show
We appreciate you, man
I hate to rush you, but you know
Oh, shit, is it that time?
Damn, has it been two hours already?
See, Mike, dude, this is
This is what happens

(01:50:30):
All right, so what are we doing?
Well, he revealed his strong genre earlier in the evening
What was that?
80s country
80s country?
That's what he grew up with
All right, 80s country
Sweet Curbs, you in for that?
Yeah
I'm not saying I'm good at it
All right, Mike, so here's how it works
So if you know the song, say your name

(01:50:52):
Okay
Michael, whatever you want to say
And then you can name the song
You get a point
If you know the song, then you get another five seconds to name the artist
Or if you know the artist, same backwards
So your buzzard is your name
So we tried to get buzzards one time here on the show
We were not approved campers in the studio

(01:51:15):
I remember that episode
You heard that episode
No, these are mine
That was like an epic fail
We tried the buzzards
God bless Eric Goforth for trying to hook us up with that
Buzzards, buzzards
I need one more hand
Great idea, gone awry
I know, we were all banging the tables
That's exactly what it was
You were like, bam, bam, bam
I've heard all these episodes

(01:51:38):
And I'm a little scared
Don't be scared, we're very friendly
All right, so here we go, here's the first one
First one's always a warm-up though
80s country
All right
Herbie, Reba Little Rock
Oh, she got it

(01:51:59):
All right, so that was the warm-up, here we go
Wait, oh, hold on, here comes Cassie
Travis, George Drake, All My Exes Live in Texas
Oh, that's great
Cassie, that's two
You guys are way too quick
They're so quick
Here we go
Travis
Oh
Go ahead, Travis

(01:52:20):
Roseanne Cash
You do this every time
Herbie, Seven Year Egg
Seven Year Egg, god damn it
All right
Travis
Go ahead
Randy Travis
Dude, he had it on the first note
I know
Come on, Mike
We got no chance here
Forever and ever, amen

(01:52:42):
Forever and ever, amen
There you go
Herbie
Take a deep breath
Forever and amen
That's fine
I got it
So that's four, Cass
Travis
Eddie Rabbit
Love the Rainy Night
Oh my gosh
Hey Mike, you're welcome to play if you like
No, see the thing is
They're in a romantic relationship

(01:53:03):
and he plays all of these songs
No, no
That's not true
Not even close to true
I've never heard him sing an Eddie Rabbit song
If I get one, I'll be surprised
Really
Have you heard Travis doing an Eddie Rabbit song?
Yeah
What? Have you?
Yeah
Not this song
What's the other one?
Love the Rainy Night
Driving My Life Away
Driving My Life Away

(01:53:24):
Oh yeah, that's good
Fair enough
Come on, Swickurps, you know this
I know, he plays it every time
and I don't remember

(01:53:45):
Come on, Brian
Come on, Brian
Come on, Brian
Who is it?
Carpenter
So it's Herbie
Carpenter
Ann Murray
It is Ann Murray
Bye
Bye
You guys are so good at this
What's the name of the song?
Could I Have This Dance With Us My Life?
Oh yeah, whatever
It's a fraud, Brian

(01:54:06):
She didn't even write those songs
Jesus
She's a fraud person
You know, I never even knew that there was an episode of A Family Guy
Did you look it up?
No, I've heard you guys talk about it
So if you're coming here, Ann Murray, I think Family Guy
You gotta hear it, you gotta watch it

(01:54:27):
She's a fraud, Brian
It's so hard
Here we go
Travis
Travis
This is
Well, this is a mixture of a version of Randy Travis, Alison Krauss
Kirby
Yeah
Alison Krauss
Keith Whitley
When You Say Nothing At All

(01:54:48):
Whatever
How did they get it on the first note?
That's so crazy
Fucking bullshit
Fucking bullshit
I got nothing
I'm like, I'm like, real low
This is your
You chose this
I didn't choose this
Yes you did
I did
Subliminally
Travis
The Judges

(01:55:09):
Why Not Me?
Kirby, you warmed up?
I'm fine, he sings a song, that's fine
He sings this?
I don't sing this song
They sing The Judges
I do not
Hold on, I gotta get a piece of ice from my whiskey here, hold on
Alright
We're gonna give you a couple seconds
Give me a couple seconds, I need a refill
I gotta refill my whiskey
Why do you want it?
You got over there, you want another

(01:55:31):
What, does that help you win?
A couple, you want a couple more
A couple more fingers of whiskey
It does not
Whiskey helps you learn the notes
Alright, hold on, we gotta
Michael, Phillipa's glass here
There we go
Alright
I'm gonna win now

(01:55:52):
Alright, now you're going
Alright, here we go
Okay, here's the next one
Travis
Kirby
No, he got it wrong
It's George Jones
He sings this fucking song
He Stop Loving Her Today
This is one of my favorite and saddest songs
We call it the Head in the Evans song, because my bass player
Because his being plays it so he knows that the first beat is a song

(01:56:14):
My bass player calls it the Head in the Evans song
They play a lot of songs, Kirby
Because you want to put a head in the oven
Alright, here we go
A lot of songs that you play for, Eric
I highly doubt Travis sings this one
I don't think so

(01:56:36):
It's Travis
Kirby
Go ahead, you beat me, go ahead
Dolly Parton
Nope
Oh, no
I got it
This is Travis and Kirby
Whoever's in New England
There you go
Alright, you got that one, sweet curbs

(01:56:59):
I don't know this one
Nobody?
Hey Mike, you're welcome to play
No, I'm not even in this game right now
I'm just watching these guys battle it out
I don't know who this is
5 seconds
I have no idea who this is

(01:57:20):
Who is it?
She finished the whole bottle
It's Ricky Skaggs
Who is it?
Ricky Skaggs
Oh, Ricky Skaggs
Son of a bitch
Okay
Kajamoon
Alright
Ricky Skaggs
Kajamoon
Travis
Travis?
Islands in the Street

(01:57:41):
Well, there's two people
There's Dolly and there's Kenny Rogers
There you go
So do I get three extra?
No?
Damn
You get two, calm down
But I picked all three
No
Alright, I feel like I'm getting rocked
I'm gonna be the only guy on this show that got skunked
I'm gonna play that Michael We Are the World by Michael Jackson
I'll give you a point for every single artist you name

(01:58:04):
Oh my god, I can get them all populant
Freddie Mercury
Freddie Mercury
No
Madonna
Cyndi Lauper
Who's this?

(01:58:26):
Oh, you guys are killing me
Don't know?
Travis
Go ahead
Is that Alabama?
No
Kirby
Go ahead
Is it Ronnie Millsad?
It is
Smokey Mountain Rain?
Not a girl
Oh my gosh
Nice
Who's this?

(01:58:48):
I'm gonna move in on the song a little bit, okay?
Who's this?
Travis
Go ahead
Is it 18 Wheels?
Is it 18 Wheels?
Kirby
Go ahead
It does sound like Tanya Tucker though
It is?
I don't know the song though

(01:59:09):
You know what I thought it sounded like?
Just Another Love
It sounded like Chloe Lu
Chloe Lu
Well, she does a good song though
She does a good version of this song
Travis
Kirby
Travis
I already did it
It's Elvira
Elvira
The Oak Ridge Boys
There you go
I know that one
Oh man

(01:59:30):
He just got it faster than me
Travis
Travis
John Anderson
Swinging
Nope
There's a little girl in our neighborhood

(01:59:54):
I think it's a girl singer
Pretty sure
Your mom's a girl singer
I know
She's a girl singer
No?
I have no idea what this is
No, KT Oslin, 80s ladies
Never even heard of her
Nope
Alright, we only got time for about two more
Two more

(02:00:21):
Kirby
Go ahead
Pam Tellas
Maybe it was Memphis
Geez
Whatever
I guess I'm gonna have to listen to more country
Alright, this is our last one
You ready?
Yep
Hold on, I gotta make sure everything's ready
I'm ready

(02:00:53):
What was that?
Kerstin?
Kirby
Oh
Alabama
What?
Kirby
What?
Kirby
Michael
Alabama
Alabama
Song of the South
It is Alabama, but it's not Song of the South

(02:01:15):
It's not Song of the South, okay
Oh
Hold on, hold on
Mike, I tried, brother
I tried
I literally shut their mics off
to give you all the time you needed
I got it
I'm gonna give somebody five seconds
Born country
There you go
Alabama
I was born country
How come Travis' mic never gets turned off?

(02:01:36):
Mine must have turned off
We were both off too
I was on to what Eric was doing
You were both screaming
Kirby
I will shank someone
This is how episodes of Snap started, okay?
Alright, Cassie, who was the champion?
Really, I got zero
So who got zero?
Me
Mike
Michael

(02:01:58):
You're the first guest that got zero
And I literally gave you the job where you asked for
And turned off their mics
I didn't say I knew
And we had mics muted
I think they muted my mic the whole show
Kirby got 14 points, the TBR got 17

(02:02:19):
Oh yeah
I think this is a couple in a row that I'm winning, man
Good job, buddy
Oh, you knocked your miniature over
Michael, thank you for
Alright, Michael
Where do we get all the information about Ramona Ranch?
How do we come hang out?
Ramona Ranch Winery
We're at Ramonaranchwines.com
If you come into the tasting room, you can sign up for our newsletter
You can find out everything that we're doing

(02:02:41):
All our Europe trips, everything that we're doing for New Orleans, tequila, all that stuff
And just come by the winery, hang out, talk to us
We're there
Hell yeah
Mike's very approachable
Very approachable
And I'm loving that piano that you guys got
Your little tasting room over there
Baby grand piano in there
And we host music as much as we possibly can

(02:03:05):
So if you guys have any requests, you want to come by and hang out?
I love it
Hell yeah
Thank you, Michael
Thank you all for listening to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show here on Ramona Radio
Thank you, Eric
Thank you, Cassie
Thank you, Sweet Curbs
And thank you, Michael, for hanging out with us on this beautiful Sunday

(02:03:26):
Thanks for having me
Hey, man, heck yeah
You guys have a good night, drive safe tomorrow morning
And have a good rest of your week
And God bless you

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