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St. Louis deserves far more than just a glance at the Gateway Arch as you drive through. This overlooked Midwestern gem offers some of the most unique attractions in America, as Craig discovered while celebrating his 50th birthday with an adventure-packed itinerary crafted by AI.

The Gateway Arch impresses not just with its towering presence but with fascinating engineering details. Did you know it forms a perfect half-circle, with its 630-foot height matching its width exactly? Or that its innovative elevator system combines traditional lift technology with Ferris wheel mechanics to keep passengers level while ascending the curve? These architectural marvels make what could be a quick photo stop into a truly immersive experience.

But nothing compares to the jaw-dropping surprise of the City Museum. Forget everything you know about museums - this 10-story former shoe factory has been transformed into an artistic playground where adults and children alike crawl through cave systems, slide down massive spiral slides, and explore repurposed industrial artifacts including suspended airplanes and school buses. The intentional lack of directional signage creates a space of genuine discovery and childlike wonder that had Craig thinking, "Josh would be in absolute heaven right here."

From floating down the Mississippi on a historic paddle wheel dinner cruise to experiencing the thrill of skydiving in the very city where the first parachute jump took place in 1912, St. Louis offers experiences that connect visitors to both history and adventure. Even the culinary scene impressed, culminating in an eight-course chef's grand tasting menu at The Crossing that celebrated local, seasonal ingredients with sophisticated flavor combinations.

The next time you're planning a weekend getaway, consider St. Louis - a city that rewards those who take the time to stop and explore. As Craig and Josh both agree: slow down, experience these overlooked cities, and you might just find yourself proud of a town that isn't even yours.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Were you just typing then?
While I was talking, I thinkyou were typing.
Did you type something?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
into the chat with T.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
What was it about?
Did you do the?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
time capsule.
I was asking yeah, I was askingwhen the time capsule was going
to be opened.
When is it All it said?
Was it said Do you love totravel?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Do you love road trips?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Do you love finding hidden treasures in towns all
over the USA?
Hi, I'm Joshua.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
And I'm Craig.
Welcome to Treasures of OurTown.
It's the podcast that exploresunique and charming towns
scattered throughout the UnitedStates.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Guided by our love for location-based games like
geocaching, join us as weventure to some of the country's
most intriguing destinations,uncovering hidden gems and local
secrets along the way.
On today's episode, josh, youcan.

(00:54):
You can meet me in st louis.
Meet me in st louis louis, makeme in st louis louis.
That's a song, I don't think Iwas singing it right.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I don't think you ever sing it right, you sing it
like josh so, but I knew.
I knew I'd be able to enticeyou into a song somewhere or not
, I know.
Isn't it a movie as well?
Meet Me in St Louis.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, it's a movie.
It's a movie, it's a song, it'sa city, it's everything you
want it to be Exactly, andthat's where we're going today.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
But that's exactly right.
That's where we're going today,because I've spent the last
four or five days in.
Is it St Louis or St Louis?
It's St Louis, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
St Louis, but they say St Louis.
It's St Louis, but people cancall it St Louis.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, but I think the locals call it St Louis as well
, but that's where we're goingtoday.
That's the proper name Exactly,and that's where we're going
today because, as I said, Ispent the last four or five days
there and I'm I'm proud to say,josh, that I I took your advice
, I took your tips from previousepisodes and I'll let you know
very, very soon of how I enactedthose tips from previous
episodes and really made my uh,my trip to st louis um extremely

(01:57):
exciting, fun, filled andfilled full of uh, fun and
adventure.
So very, very cool.
But, mate, before we go, beforewe start, as, what have you
been up to buddy?
What have you been up to?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh, you know, I've been just chilling up.
Here in the Northland we havebipolar weather but we don't
talk about the weather on thispodcast.
But it is a factor and, yeah,it is time for our upgrades and
delays.
If you've just tuned in to usfor the first time, craig and I
always talk about our upgradesand our delays.

(02:27):
My upgrade was get this, craig.
Last weekend I was invited to abrewery by our friend Mecca, mn
Courtney and Minnesota boy,minnesota boy, Minnesota boy,
tim Larson.
It was a brewery called HeavyRotation and it was themed.
Get this themed record likerecord you know, themed like

(02:49):
music record theme.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yes, Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Anyway, we were there and they were doing a
fundraiser for, like, the firedepartment, and I walk in and
they give you a raffle ticketbecause there was a cover charge
, and guess what?
Oh, we were having anold-fashioned meat raffle.
Do you know what a?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
meat raffle is.
Josh, you don't understand.
We invented, australianinvented the meat raffle and our
meat raffle is a lot betterthan your meat raffle.
I'll give you that top tipright there, oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Our meat raffles.
They're not old-fashioned.
We have them weekly, normallyin our clubs and pubs in
Australia, and they're alwayssponsored by the local butcher.
And so the butcher will bringtrays and trays of different

(03:28):
slices and cuts of meat andsteaks and sausages and all
sorts and risoles and rafflethem off from there.
So tell me what was the sort ofmeat raffle like where you were
?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's the same thing .

Speaker 1 (03:40):
The same thing.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
The butcher donated all this meat to the fire
department to raffle off yeahand you know you get a raffle
ticket.
You pay five bucks and you'rein the raffle and they had
steaks and they had pork chops,but I opted for the, the
handmade beef sticks.
oh fantastic, because you know,you know I love putting uh, beef

(04:02):
sticks in my bloody mary's, sothat one.
That's what enticed me.
So you know, it's the simplethings.
That was my upgrade and so getthis.
So I won the meat raffle andthen the lady came around.
She's like, oh, you want todonate?
You know, you want to enter theraffle a little bit more.
I was like sure, sure, so Igave her another five bucks.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And I want a camping chair.
So I was just a big winner lastweekend.
Josh, if everyone knows you orsees you around, if you're ever
at a geocaching event andthere's a raffle or there's a
competition or there's alwayssomething, josh, you always come
back with a prize of some sort,always, always, have you
noticed?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
that I'm a winner.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I'm a winner, you are , you're an absolute winner.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I just think.
I don't think that's true.
I just think people noticebecause they know me right.
No, just, oh, the geocachingvlogger he won again because,
they just, they're like oh he'shere, yeah, no, I just think
this because they know me.
This is not because I actuallywin all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
No, I'm there with minnesota boy myself and you and
, uh, you always come back witha prize, whereas minnesota boy
myself never do so it's alwaysyou.
So it's not just because who youare and you're well known, it's
more the fact that is that youalways win everything.
So, uh, but well done to you,mate.
So well done, well done.

(05:18):
Uh, make my delays themselves.
My ankle is still on the mend,but it's still not right.
I've still got it strapped upas we speak and it's coming up
to coming up to two weeks, twoweeks now since it actually
happened.
So it's still.
It's still painful, it stillthrobs a little bit, it's going
down to the heel a little bitnow, the bruising still there.
It's still swollen a little bithere and there too, I've got to

(05:39):
be careful.
Um, I don't drive.
Obviously, it's my left foot,so it's not my driving foot,
thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
But whenever I stop now as well I'll make sure I
jump in my passenger seat,because it's a swivel seat.
I swivel the passenger seataround and then put my foot up
on the driver's seat to keep itelevated.
I've got a nice ice pack aswell.
Sometimes, when it gets toothrobby, I'll put an ice pack on
it too.
So that's my, that's my delays,Josh.
There's still, uh, still on themen, still on the men.

(06:05):
But yeah, my upgrade outweighsmy delays.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Is it getting better?
Yes, it is.
Is it getting better?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It is.
It is getting better.
It is slowly getting better.
I'm not limping as much, yeah.
Apart from that, it is gettingbetter.
But my upgrade, josh, myupgrade is guess what my upgrade
is going to be?
This entire episode is going tobe my upgrade, so I can't talk

(06:32):
about my upgrade, because I'mgoing to spend the next, you
know, 40 minutes talking aboutmy upgrade.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Perfect, that's exciting and I'll just say my
delay is that I was not with youin St Louis to experience all
this cool stuff.
I haven't spent significanttime in St Louis.
I checked In 11 years, greg.
It's been a long time, becausethe last time I was there was in
2014.
I was there for Geo Woodstockwhen it was there and I

(06:59):
experienced a few of the thingsthat you experienced not all the
things and I experienced acouple of things that you don't
have listed here, so we willtalk about it.
I have experience of St Louis,but you have it fresh in your
mind as you just experienced itthis weekend.
And, yeah, that's my delay.
It's like a lot of times, mostof the times on this podcast, we
have both experienced whereverwe're going together.

(07:19):
Today, I get to be theinterviewer.
Yes, you do.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, you do, yes, you do.
You get to pick my brain andjust be gentle with it because
it's very, very small, butanyway, that rolls in.
That rolls in, josh, to our StLouis.
That's what we're talking abouttoday, all about St Louis in
Missouri itself, and we'll gofrom there.
Now, before we start, though,josh, as I said before, I was
guided by you only a fewepisodes ago, and remember you
said when you did your trip upnorth with Reese, your daughter,

(07:50):
and you said you use ChatGPT toutilize its knowledge, its
wealth of knowledge, in regardsto the best place to eat, the
best place to sleep, the bestplace for this, the best place
for that.
That's what I did, josh.
I enacted chat GPT and I put inthe exact prompts.
I said I want to be in St Louisfrom this date to this date.
I like to geocache, so give mehigh favorite geocache locations

(08:13):
.
Adventure labs are included aswell.
I want to do a tourist sort ofstyle.
I want to have some nice mealsas well, so I put nice meals
there too, and I wanted to haveone high-end meal, just a
high-end one, nice um because,nice, because it was my birthday
.
Josh, that's what I was actuallythere for happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Thank you, good sir, thank you are you going to tell
the people which one it was?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
50, 50, that's a big one.
That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, that should becelebrated.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's nothing to be.
That's nothing.
Yeah, yeah, that should becelebrated.
That's nothing to be.
That's nothing to beembarrassed about.
You should be proud.
You should be proud of yourbirthday.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, exactly, that's a rare thing this year that's a
rare thing for me because I'venever celebrated a birthday uh,
ever before my son birthday,ever before.
So it's very rare for me.
But I know I didn't chat gptjosh, so what do you think it
out with?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I bet it did a very good job of giving you a great
itinerary it did.
And let's just say chat GPT.
Oh my God, AI Craig, it isgetting so good.
As of recent, there's been someupgrades to chat GPT.
I have now the paid version.
I've been having a lot of fun.
I've been sending youT.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I have now the paid version.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I've been having a lot of fun.
I've been sending you photosand I was like make me a cartoon
, make Craig a cartoon, put meon, put me on a Pokemon card,
like I just been having so muchfun with it and and it's no
surprise it probably it's justgetting better and better.
It's getting smarter andsmarter and I bet it did a
fantastic job guiding you aroundSt Louis.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
It did, and I also put in as well, and the more
information you put into thisthing you can understand, the
better it's going to job it'sgoing to do.
So I gave it the dates that Iwas going to be there.
I gave it roughly what I wantedto do, as I said geocaching,
adventure, labs, that sort ofthing and dinner, and I even

(10:04):
said it's going to be throughsome of the things that actually
put in my itinerary.
But because I said it's my 50thas well, it gave me age-related
things to do, so it didn't giveme all the.
But I also put in the fact thatI wanted to do other things as
well, like skydive.
You know stuff like that too,so that's really cool.
So, yeah, we'll get into it fromthere.
But the first thing we did,josh, is that I wanted to do

(10:25):
something a little bit different, a little bit, you know,
something you wouldn'tordinarily do, because I got in
there on a Saturday and, youknow, checked into the hotel by
the way, hotel, beautiful, theWildwood Hotel it's called, and
big, beautiful, you know me.
My bath, josh, everyone knowsNice bath Was it a bath or a hot
tub?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Bath or hot tub, it was a spa an actual spa, big spa
.
I was like oh, yeah, you got tolove that Right in the room,
right in the room right next tothe bed.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Exactly, exactly.
You go from the bed and soakingin a nice hot bath in the spa
itself and then jump straightinto bed.
It was so nice.
So, yeah, stayed there for thefew nights as well, but we drove
down to the Mississippi River,and along the Mississippi River
is the Skyline Dinner Cruisehave you seen those at all, Josh

(11:16):
?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I've been on some of those Mississippi paddle
boats.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
They're awesome.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
They're really cool.
Some of them just have tours,others, you know, they have
pizza night.
Others have really nice dinners, yeah.
I have done those before.
Up in La Crosse, wisconsin,they have the La Crosse Queen.
So a lot of these cities alongthe Mississippi, yeah, they have
these really cool paddle boats.
They look right out of a MarkTwain book.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Exactly, and that's why I wanted to do it as well.
I mean, unfortunately for me,on the Saturday or friday,
saturday, was big thunderstormsand a lot of rain as well, and
that we they had had a lot, alot of rain, to the point where
there was a lot of, um, a lot offlooding along the mississippi
over the last few days, um, andthere's a lot of uh debris
coming down and around.
I thought to myself I evenmessaged him saying, is it still

(11:57):
going to be on?
Because I didn't know whetherthe debris is going to stop the
paddle boats or not.
But nope, it doesn't stop thepaddle boats.
They just, they just chunkthrough the whole big logs that
are floating down the river.
So, skyline and dinner cruisealong the mississippi river
paddle wheel throwback vibes asa replica for the paddle wheels
as well, um, like 1800ssteamboat sort of feel, as you

(12:19):
said, mark twain, you know um,yeah, but it still had some nice
modern cocktails and nice airconditioning.
Uh, we jumped on, uh, jumped on, started having dinner and a
beautiful dinner as well, quitea nice dinner, which you select
beforehand as well.
So you pre-select your mealsand, um, it goes off the edge
and straight away, as we go past, we go past the big arch, the

(12:41):
uh, the gateway arches andthat's what st louis is known
for is the Gateway Arch.
It was all lit up overnight,the Gateway Arch.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's the gateway to the West.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
St Louis is kind of known to like this is where the
West begins.
Oh yeah, that's what itrepresents.
St Louis is the Gateway Arch.
It's like okay, now the Westbegins.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yep, yep, live entertainment on board.
They had a full dj with somegreat tunes as well, and I will
say, josh, you know, I wasturning 50, so I'm of that age
whereby I don't listen to likeall the new, new, new stuff.
So it was a throwback.
There was, there was somejackson five josh, there was
some old school michael jackson,jackson there's all those sort

(13:22):
of feels as well.
And then every now and then hecomes in like you know who let
the dogs out, who, who, who, who, and people were singing along.
You know, some people even gotup and danced.
So it was lots of fun, lots offun on board with that.
As I said before, the food wasdelicious.
There was either seafood,chicken, steak, all different
types of food as well, um, andit basically it's just a.
For me, josh, it's like it'syou're floating on history, if

(13:45):
that makes sense, right, youknow um that old sort of style
like it's.
It's so, it's so unique, andI've seen it in so many movies,
even coming from Australia.
So to actually be able to, toget on that uh, steamboat sort
of style and paddle wheel and goup the Mississippi river and
then back down again and thenback up again, cause that's
where you go, you go back upagainst the current, you float

(14:06):
down with the current and you gopast where you the dock and
then you turn around and comeback up the current again.
So so that's how it works.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That's beautiful.
Yeah, Really cool.
How much did it cost Craig?
How much was it for the dinnerand the cruise?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The whole.
So it's all inclusive and it's$65 for dinner and cruise.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh my gosh, yeah, $65 .
That's a really good deal,that's it.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Great deal.
That's solid.
Obviously, the drinks areseparate as well, so you pay for
the drinks as you drink them aswell.
I had to get Josh, I had to getthe Riverboat Iced Tea.
You know spiked iced tea.
It was absolutely delicious,Really good.
It had some nice rum in it too,so that was delicious because
you get to keep the glass.
You actually keep the glass, soit's a souvenir, so you know.

(14:48):
So, yes, that was really nice.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
But $65 deal.
It was a deal, that's a reallygood deal.
Was it a couple hours, threehours, how long was it?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yep two and a half hours in total, two and a half
hours in total.
Yep, yep, yep, and it was threecourse meal, so you had your
salad to begin with, you hadyour main course and then a
delicious dessert of cheesecakeat the end as well, so with a
raspberry jus, so, but we'll getto more important food later on
.
I'll tell you that because this, this place I went to for the
high-end food, josh, it washigh-end food, so I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I can't wait to hear that.
You know you were mentioningcraig about history.
One of the things the big partof american history in st louis
is um.
It is the gateway to the westand just, I believe, just north
of there.
It, this area, is where themissouri river and the
mississippi kind of meet oh andso where this is where the
missouri river started and thisis where lewis and clark, in st

(15:41):
charles, just just just north, Ibelieve, of st louis, lewis and
clark started their journey,exploring the west and they went
right up the mississippi riverto the west.
So this is a this is there'ssignificant history here and
there's a like a big statue oflewis and clark as they're
setting out on their on theirjourney.
If you know any history aboutlewis and clark, so it's
appropriate that you startedwith a paddle wheel and history

(16:04):
vibes and who let the dogs out.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Exactly, exactly.
It was great, it was fantastic.
But luckily for us as well,it's still cloudy the next day.
So the next day was I wassupposed to do the skydiving the
next day, but they called andthey said no, it's too cloudy.
Whatever, it was often on rain,we don't want you hanging
around here on the off chance.
And then we say no, we can'tfly, we can't skydive today.

(16:32):
So they rebooked me for theMonday and all I did was I
swapped my days around on theitinerary for ChachiBT.
So instead of what I was doingon Monday, I then did on Sunday.
Sunday, I did the Monday, easy.
Sunday I did the Monday Easy seeEasy.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
It wasn't hard at all .
It just tells you what to do.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You don't need a brain, no no, it just tells you
what to do.
So it was perfect.
So the next day we actually didthe Gateway Arch itself.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's a must-do.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
It's a must-do you gotta.
Recently it's changed to anational park and it is
currently now the USA's smallestnational park, and it is
currently now the usa's smallestnational park by a miles and
miles and miles, so it isactually the smallest national
park in the us.
So it's very, very cool.
Yes, the tallest, the tallestmonument josh in the us.
So that's really cool, thetallest monument, the us yeah,

(17:19):
630 feet tall.
But but one of the best thingsabout this, and that is, you
look at it and you've seenphotos, everyone's seen photos
of this thing.
Right, it is huge, it'sginormous and you think you know
, oh, it is a full arch, butit's an optical illusion.
It's 630 feet in height.
It's 630 feet in width.

(17:40):
Josh, it's not an arch, it'sactually actually a circle.
It's actually a circle.
Yes, yes, and that that reallydid surprise me when learning
that too.
So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait it's wait from.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
So, from each end of the arch, from end to end, if
you lay it on the ground, if youmeasure.
From end to end.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, from the
ground.
So it's, it's, it's the sameheight from the ground.
So the diameter, the diameterof the height so sorry, it is
still an arch the diameter ofthe height is the same as the
width of it around, like fromthe side, if that makes sense.
That's what I think yeah,that's what I said, that's what

(18:21):
I meant.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, the I think yeah, that's what I said, that's
what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
The width is the same as the height.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, exactly that tells you how huge that's huge
it is.
I get what you're saying soit's like, it's a true, like
almost half circle.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yes, exactly exactly, but yeah, it makes full sense.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I mean, you know you, it's like getting into a.
I don't know if it's changed,but it's like getting into a
washing machine.
Oh, it is still the same.
Or?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
a dryer, it's still the same.
You get into the dryer, yeah,exactly, it's still the same, no
different.
And what I liked about it aswell is you're sitting there
waiting to go into these liftsor these elevator and it shows
you how they created theelevator system as you're
waiting for the elevator itself,which is really, really
significant, because at the timeback in because we're talking

(19:11):
was it 1947 when the originaldesign curse came out in 1947?
We're talking back then theywere looking about just like an
elevator style and they lookedlike a Ferris wheel style, and
then they ended up coming upwith both elevator and Ferris
wheel combined so you couldactually stay balanced, stay
upright, so you're not on anangle, but still go around the

(19:34):
semicircle sort of area, so youcan still go on an angle.
So it was very interesting,very much like a washing machine
.
It's really fascinating.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's not like a true elevator, because it's going up
kind kind of a.
It's going up kind of I don'thow do you say it like
diagonally kind of yeah but itrolls up.
It basically rolls up becauseyou're not even going straight,
diagonally you go, you go, yougo straight up slightly and then
bends.
Yeah, exactly yeah, it'sfascinating, I figured it out
and I remember when you get upthere, there's not a lot of room

(20:05):
up there for a lot of people.
It's a small area to walkaround up there and small, small
windows to look out.
But you went up there.
What time were you up there?
Was it a pretty time?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yes, yeah, 1030 in the morning and by that time, as
we got up to the top as well,the clouds had all lifted and
gone.
It was a blue sky, the sun wasshining.
I actually put a good, nicephoto on my Instagram personal
Instagram account today as wespeak.
So when I was down at thebottom, I looked up as I was
walking around.
I looked up and I went oh wow,I just saw the lines.
I saw the sun poking through.

(20:36):
I'm like yep, yep, yep, sosnapped a quick photo as well
from there.
When you're up the top as well,there is a virtual cache, but
you don't need to go up the topfor the virtual cache.
You can stay there because itdoes cost money to go up.
But if you're there, pay themoney You've got to go up.
You've got to go up, you've gotto do these things.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know it's yeah it's a very old virtual.
Yes, highly favorited Iremember when I did it, you had
to answer several questionsaround the arch.
Is that still?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's only two or three questions now on the
plaque in front of it.
There's a plaque in front of it.
You have to answer.
That's all it is.
It's pretty simple to do.
As I said, you don't need to goup, but if you're there, you've
got to do it.
Josh, you have to go up, youhave to go up.
It was really cool.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You said it was a national park.
I remember going underneath it.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yes, when you're going underneath.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
There's a really cool museum down there with a film
and a bunch of like.
You can't miss the museum.
I believe it's all free too,because it's not free.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
The museum's not free yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
All the museum downstairs is all free.
So as soon as you you can go in, you can go in for free.
But you can't go up in theelevators unless you pay the ten
dollars, fifty or whatever.
It is so right.
So, but you have to go down,yes, you have to go down into
their, into the museum, to getinto the correct thing, to go up
the arch, correct that?
Yeah, but the museum is cool.
There's like a film.
It tells you all about the archand like I think it probably
tells history and lewis andclark.
There's yeah, it's really cooldown there.
It's worth checking out themuseum too, if you have time.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Exactly and make sure you spend some time down there.
You can either do it likebecause you've got to book your
time frames to go up the archbecause, as you can understand,
they can only have a certainamount of people up there at a
certain time and you are timedwhen you're up there as well, so
you've got to go up and thenyou spend as much as time as it
takes for the elevators to goback down.
I think it's it's like a, Ithink it's a 12 minute window in

(22:30):
total, so the elevators go backdown, pick up the next bunch
and as they bring them up, thenyou, as they come out, you go
back in and you go down.
So that's the way it works.
But these little windows up thetop, uh, that you look out of,
you bend over and look out of,and the windows josh, the
windows are angled down so youcan literally, if you bend down

(22:50):
properly and look out over thewindows, you're looking directly
down at the ground, like youcould actually fall out of the
window.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
So I know if you're afraid of heights, this would
get your heart going.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
It would, it, would that, but they are small windows
.
You're not walking on glasslike you have in other places,
you know, I mean like in chicagoand stuff as well, where you
can walk on the glass.
You know, like you're walkingover people and stuff too, but
no, none of that.
Um, it is quite small up there.
But, as I said, it's a must do,josh.
So it's absolutely a must, sure, must do.
Can't miss that.
As I said, it was designed byeuro siren, I think it's called.

(23:23):
I butchered his name, but 1947,he designed it himself.
There was 172 entries for thedesign and he ended up winning
itself.
It then took two and a halfyears to build, from 1963 to
1965.
But one thing I like, josh, aswell it's built to withstand
earthquakes and wind, and so itactually sways up to 18 inches

(23:45):
in high wind and can handle aneight magnitude earthquake.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Wow, wow I don't think st louis gets very many
earthquakes either, but you know, good idea, just in case it
gets wind.
I'm sure, oh, it gets wind itgets the wind.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
it's way up there.
Yes, exactly Made of stainlesssteel and concrete.
As I said, it's the world'stallest, and it's the world's
tallest stainless steelstructure as well, so that's
pretty cool as well.
That's cool.
As I said, you can ride to thetop and it's't part of the
national park system, but now itis part of the national parks

(24:25):
and, josh, as people as we, likegeocachers alike, I've got a
national park pass passport.
You know and you have.
When you go to national parks,you can stamp your passport to
say that you were there at acertain date.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I love that it's got the stamp.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's got the stamp downstairs in the museum where
you can stamp your passport.
Have you been stamping?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
those have you.
Do you have that, have you beenstamping those national parks
yourself.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
I did, I started, I started.
I started.
I should have started three anda half years ago, when I
started actually doing mytravels, but I didn't actually
do it oh yeah, that's one ofthose things.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Because you're like you go there right and you're
like, oh, that's so cool,there's a stamp.
You're like, oh man, I'vealready been to five, I'm
already behind, so I'm not goingto do it, but you got to start,
you got to start somewhere.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
You got to start somewhere.
But what I like as well is thatyou can actually get the other
passport, and there's anotherpassport you get where you don't
use the stamps and you thestickers in the sticker book,
you see.
So if you've been to five orsix before, you can then buy the
stickers online, you know,through Amazon or whatever, and

(25:31):
update your book to say whatyou've been to and which ones
you've done.
So it's pretty cool, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
One more thing about this, josh.
That's a good tip, that's cool.
It's on your honor, right?
You're not competing againstanybody.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
You're really not.
You're not going to get.
If you, if you get all thestamps, if you get all the
stickers in your book, who'swho's going to care, apart from
yourself?
To be honest, like nobody sogood for you.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's not like geocaching.
No, it's not like geocaching.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
People are going to look at your stats.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
You didn't go to you, didn't go to that park you
didn't sign that log.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Look where's the date on that log book, you know no,
no signature.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
You weren't there exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
No, you can't.
Just you, you had no pen.
There's no excuse, especiallyfor you.
But uh, one more thing.
One more thing, josh, and thatis there's a buried capsule,
time capsule, below the baseitself.
It was sealed in 1965, but thisis my favorite.
The actual time capsulecontains signatures from over
750,000 schoolchildren.

(26:29):
Yeah, so three quarters of amillion schoolchildren signed
this time capsule that's beenburied under there in 1965.
Don't ask me when it's going tobe open, but yeah, that's where
it is.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
You should ask ChatGPT.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I should have asked ChatGPT.
I didn't even think about it.
Yeah, that's where it is.
You should ask ChatGPT.
I should have asked ChatGPT.
I didn't think about it.
So that was the arch Josh aswell.
So, as you said before, you'vebeen there.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I must visit.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You've been there.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, I've been there.
Yep, I was there 11 years ago.
Did you do the cache?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
while you were there.
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Did you do the virtual?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, we did the virtual.
Well, there's plenty ofAdventure Labs around the area
now as well.
So there's yes, yes, yes,because it's a major city, so
you're not going to find thatmany actual containers like
actual physical cachesthemselves, so this one here has
a lot of Adventure Labs instead.
So that's really really cool.
Were you just typing then whileI was talking?

(27:22):
I think you were typing.
Did you type something?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
in the chat.
Yeah, I was asking when thetime capsule was going to be
opened.
When is it?
All it said?
Was it said, not theforeseeable future?
It didn't know.
It either didn't know or theydon't have a date for it.
They don't have an end date forit.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
They mustn't have an end date, exactly, exactly no
end date for it.
So that's pretty cool.
All right moving on yes.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
This next thing, this next thing, oh, this next thing
.
Craig, yes, this is one of myregrets.
I really wouldn't.
Um, I wish I would have spenttime to visit here, because I
have heard this is one of thebest.
This is one of the best placesto visit in st louis, and you
know how I love a good museumand this one's a very unique
super fun museum.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I heard this playground this art playground.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Tell them about it, tell us all about the city
museum.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
City museum.
So when I looked intoChachapitin, I gave it all my
information and all the waythrough it told me to visit the
city museum.
And I was thinking to myself,you know, ah, it's just a city
museum.
You know, these things musthave some artwork there.
It's got some monument detailsthere.
It might have some there.
It's got some monument detailsthere.
It might have some historystuff there as well, but no,
alas, definitely not.
It doesn't have any of that.

(28:37):
Itself the City Museum it's doneby Bob Cassily, his name is,
and a team.
They transformed a former shoefactory and I'm talking, like
you know, 10-story high shoefactory.
They transformed it into one ofthe most unique museums in the
entire world.
The art and the philosophy isthat the art, um, uh, meets the

(29:01):
playground.
And we went there and I'm like,hang on a second, what's going
on here?
I drove in and looked at theparking lot and there's kids
walking over the top of my headsix stories in the air via this,
these circular cylindrical, youknow uh gates and and meshes

(29:21):
and you know metal containersand they're going from.
there's even a plane stuck inthe middle of the air in between
and these kids are climbingthrough this this plane and then
back out from the, the tail endof the plane and then and then
down itself and throughliterally a little train system
and whatnot.
Helicopters are up there aswell.
There's a school bus hanginghalfway off the roof.

(29:42):
Josh and I just looked at thisplace and went Josh, I'll be
honest with you, I'm going to be100% honest with you.
I looked and I looked up and Isaw it all happening and I went.
Josh would love this.
Josh would be in absoluteheaven, right here already.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
It's so playful.
It looks like something thatPee Wee's Playhouse or something
and all this stuff.
It's like this play area.
It's outside and it goes frominside the building to outside
the building.
Yeah, you're right, a planesticking and there's a bus.
It's just so stinking cool.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
And I see a ferris wheel, wow yeah, absolutely
incredible that's really coolbut the best thing is is when
you go in and you buy yourtickets and you go through the
kids galore I'm talkingeverywhere there was families
everywhere.
This here is a family heaven.
So if you're there with youngerkids anywhere I'm going to say
younger kids anywhere from fiveup, Josh, and even to the

(30:39):
teenagers.
Teenagers were there too, andteenagers were giggling like
they were five again.
That's how good it was.
That's how really good it was.
There's one area where there'sall man-made caves, tunnels.
Kids and their fathers wereplaying in the tunnels, and this
one.
All of a sudden, Josh, I'mwalking along and I heard this

(30:59):
noise directly above myright-hand side of my head
because I'm just ducking undersomething, and it's this random
father who's on his stomachclimbing through a makeshift
cave and there's a hole in thecave and he's looked at me and
we made eye contact, withinthree inches of each other, Josh
.
We made eye contact and I wentoh good day, mate.
And he's like hi, Like it'sincredible.

(31:22):
But you go down to this networkof caves.
There is no way signs, there'sno arrows around, no exit signs.
Once you go in, it's hard toget back out.
Warning, warning.
It is hard to get back.
You don't know where you'regoing, you don't know what
you're doing.
You can slowly climb.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Are you crawling around on your hands and knees,
or is it bigger?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's both.
It's both, so there's a biggercomponent.
So I never went into thesmaller areas, because you can
look, I look in a small crack,for instance.
There's, there's random cracksin the wall.
It looks like.
It looks actually looks reallike a real cave.
It is cold to touch, it lookslike real stone and there's like
a small crack in the wall andI'll look in it next.
As I look in it, I see a bodygo past.

(32:08):
You know, I mean as crawlingpast, like in this crack.
I'm like someone was in there,some kids in there, crawling
past.
It's an actual cave, you know,um, so there is there.
You can crawl around in thosesmall sections.
Uh, people sometimes get stuckso they have to back back out.
You uh become very friendlywith people around you, so to
speak, as well, because, I'msure, because some people are
coming down other than going upat the same time.

(32:28):
There's no, as there's noarrows around.
You just walk wherever you wantto walk.
But once you get to the top ofthis cave system, it's six
stories high.
There is now, after that, youknow, those circle slides, the
ones that go around and theycome down at the same time.
There's one of those all theway down the middle, josh, and

(32:52):
so you can get onto this circleslide.
There's no, there's noattendance there, there's no
people, there's no staff.
You just play as you wish, toplay like, like a normal free
play, like a normal kid in aschoolyard.
And next minute you're here andyou, as you're walking around,
and you hear like the father go,oh yeah, like screaming as he,
as he, as he's coming down theslide.

(33:12):
And then you hear like a fathergo, oh yeah, like screaming as
he's coming down the slide.
And then you hear this littlesqueaky, squeaky sound and it's
a kid running after him, sort ofthing too.
So it's a six story cylindricalslide all the way down to the
bottom.
So yeah, that's the best way todo it, but absolutely
incredible.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So it's considered really like a children's museum.
But let's be honest, it soundslike it's for the young at heart
as well, like it's very adultfriendly.
I mean, you went there withoutkids, you had a good time.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Exactly, I had a blast man.
I had an absolute blast BecauseI mean, that was just the first
part that I went into was thecaving section.
That's just one component.
After that you've got fourseparate floors of different
locations and actual real museumthings as well.
So it's not just all play.
Uh, when I say actual realmuseum things we're talking
about, I can't even think of thename, josh.

(34:01):
But you know, when it comes toall the insects and the bugs and
the, you know, and they're allon pins, on pin boards, and
they're all under glass, youknow, and you, you can go and
look around.
Yes, all different, all thedifferent bees and the different
flies and all that, it's allthat as well.
So that's in one area, in oneroom, so you can go around and
have a look at that.
So there's real museum stuffthere too.
Even architectural museumplaces as well, which is really

(34:24):
cool.
Things that have been built 200years ago and they've got them
hanging on the walls asarchitectural masterpieces from
old buildings.
That was, uh, that wasdeconstructed you know years ago
.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
So all that is that is that one of the themes of the
of the museum is architecture,like is that is that part of the
theme of the?
Okay?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
They've got all differentthemes.
Itself in different rooms isdifferent themes, uh, different
levels of different themes aswell.
So they've even got one forlike a, a water theme, a
nautical theme, whereby, josh,you wash your hands first and
then you, you go around thislittle water tank area with all
these little fish and you putyour hand in the water tank and

(35:05):
all the fish come up and andthey suck, no, they suckle onto
you, they bite, they bite andsuck onto your fingers and they
get all the little bits of bitsof skin and stuff off your
fingers and little particles offyour fingers.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I've done that.
I've done a foot spa like thatin Germany.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Oh, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Where they eat all the calluses off your feet.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, now, this was just for the hands.
It was just for the hands forthis one, so that was really
cool.
But I do think the exhibitschange.
These types of exhibits, likethe room exhibits, change quite
often as well, and it'sdifferent in every location.
But, josh, I really, reallyenjoyed it.
There's obviously a cafe thereas well, so you can grab

(35:45):
something to eat, grab somethingto drink.
But the amount of times I heardparents just saying to their
kids hey, josh.
Josh just yelling for their kidsand then you hear the kid go
I'm over here.
It's very much a place whereyou would lose your kids quite

(36:06):
easily.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
But that's okay.
It's okay that you lose them,because then it's fun, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's more fun, the kids are having more fun and, as
I said before, there wereteenagers in there as well and
the teenagers were giggling aswell doing it, and the teenagers
and the young kids alike, theywere getting along.
You know what I mean.
They weren't too cool forschool.
You know that sort of stuff aswell, so that's really cool.
But what I the outside area isthat they're repurposing all the

(36:31):
industrial art.
So we're talking, as I saidbefore, school buses and planes
and helicopters, all thesedifferent repurposed things that
would normally just go to ascrapyard.
They've got and now they'repart of the industrial art out
the front, around, up the top,in and out of the actual
building itself as well.
So that's really cool too.
So, um, they do have a museumafter dark where it's, where

(36:53):
this here is not for families.
It's 21 and over uh, becausethere's alcohol involved,
involved as well.
Um, didn't go to that one.
Uh, it was starting to rain andstuff as well, so we finished
up there.
So that was really cool, reallyreally cool.
And it says is it kid heaven oran adult wonderland?
You have to find out foryourself.

(37:14):
But, yeah, you haven't been tothis one, josh, you haven't been
there.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I haven't been to this one.
I regret it.
So this is for our geocachinglisteners.
Geocoinfest was in St Louis atthe City Museum.
The Coinfest was at that museumin 2016.
What an awesome, awesomelocation for a geocaching event.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Don't you think it is absolutely brilliant location.
They did have a big area roomfor private function, so they
must have been that privatefunction room, I think.
So that's pretty cool.
I really like that idea.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Were there dinosaur bones there?
No, not when I think so that'spretty cool I really like that
idea.
That's really cool.
Were there dinosaur bones there.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
No, not when I was there, not when I was there.
There's no dinosaur bones,there's fake ones.
So there's fake dinosaur bonesand there's fake things that
they've made and like you slidedown, they made slides out of
them and there's like dinosaurbones in the caves, but they're
all fake, they're not real.
Yeah, they're all fake, they'renot real.
Yeah, okay the reason.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
The reason I asked that is because somebody gifted
me a uh geocoin from thatgeocoin fest and it was a.
It was like a dinosaur head yes, yeah, yeah, to signify that it
was at that museum.
So that's why I was wonderingthat's cool there.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
So there must be, it must be yeah, part of the, it's
part of the ones in the caveyeah, all the fake ones, because
you can slide like through the,the triceratops's mouth or
whatever it's called like as youcome down torianosaurus rex's
mouth, you slide through it.
You know that sort of stuff, sothat's really cool it's really
cool yeah, yeah and um, I willsay it's very dark in there and
dingy too, so photographs aren'tthat that good, which is good,

(38:45):
because obviously a lot of kidsaround too.
So I didn't, I never had myphone out at all, I didn't do
any of that.
And again I thought of youthinking to myself how would
Josh document this?
You know you would.
You'd want to make a TikTok outof it, a hundred percent at
least minimum.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
You'd want a TikTok out of it.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah and uh and I thought to myself well, there'd
be different parts where youcould say you know, do different
videos in different it to me.
I thought to myself oh, this isjust a number, you know a basic
museum.
How wrong was I, how wrong wasI?
Chatgbt for the win on that one.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yes, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, I really want to visitthis place and, yeah, this is
certainly, I would say, mynumber one destination.
After you've done the arch yougot to do.
Yes, this is like the nextthing, exactly.
Uh, based on what I've heard,what other people have said
about exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So that was on the sunday.
On the monday rolled around,josh.
The monday was my actualbirthday my actual 50th birthday
was on the monday.
Um, so I I've so years andyears and years ago.
Um, I always wanted to go.
I've been skydiving, before youknow, twice before oh, you have
yeah yeah, I've been skydivingtwice before, but I was talking
to my kids, uh, you know, backwhen I first started geocaching

(40:01):
and you know, and I was goingthrough some problems and stuff
as well with my my ex-wife atthe time and and all that sort
of things.
Anyway, I said to my kids 2025is a big, big year, because in
Australia, 18 and you can startdrinking at 18, you become an
adult at 18.
So 2025, I turn 50, my sonturns 18 and my daughter turns
21 all in this year, 2025.

(40:23):
Oh, wow.
And so I made a pact with mykids at that point in time to
say them in 2025, we're going togo skydiving, you see together,
okay, and in 2025, we're goingto go skydiving, you see
together.
Now unfortunate circumstanceshave arisen whereby I'm no
longer in contact with them assuch for the time being, but I
thought to myself oh, that's notgoing to stop me.
Promises made, promises kept,and so that's the reason why I

(40:46):
wanted to go skydiving for my50th birthday is because I made
that promise to them back yearsand years ago.
And that's what I did, Josh.
I found Skydive St Louis.
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I love that.
So is there something specialabout Skydive St Louis?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It really is, because you've done it before.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Tell me what's special about it?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
The difference is Skydive.
It was very unique in terms ofit's a smaller sort of company,
so it was only like myself andanother person in the plane,
with our two instructors andthen the pilot.
I was sitting directly next tothe pilot the whole time with my
legs like over the engine baythe whole time.
It's a really small Cessnaplane with no seats in it, so

(41:27):
you're sitting on the ground thewhole time, the ground, the
whole time.
Um, and then, as always, youknow, my, my instructor, sort of
you know sits up behind me, youknow, and and clips in and it
does all these checks and triplechecks and double checks and
all that sort of stuff as well.
Um, gives it, gives me the wholerundown, the spiel, what I need
to do, which I knew.
I knew what to do from thefirst few times.
And then, um, yeah, they openup the door.

(41:48):
You, you put your feet out thedoor and there's the winds
blowing all around and you'relike here we go, here we go.
And he just literally just likejump out so you fall.
You don't jump, you fall, soyou fall out.
You do.
Have you skydived before, josh?
At all, have you?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I have not.
I've never done that before.
Oh, josh, would you skydiveReese has?
Would you skydive reese hasdone it would you?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
he's done it.
Would you skydive?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
josh.
Uh, yeah, I you know, I wouldtry anything once you know, I
have a tattoo that says just tryit.
That's what I thought anybody.
If anybody says um josh come onyou should skydive, I'd say
I'll try it.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, I'll try it.
I'll do at least one, just try.
Yeah, I would try it sometime.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
You know, reese did it and uh, for her 18th birthday
, oh.
And her feedback was it didn'tand I don't know, I haven't done
it before, you have done it nowa couple times.
She said it didn't feel real,no, like it didn't feel like no,
it doesn't feel like you'refalling, it just kind of feels
like you're Flying Suspended inair.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, you're suspended, yes, yes.
And the reason for it?
Because I've done skydiving afew times.
I've done bungee jumping aswell.
Bungee jumping is a lot scarierbecause you have reference
points of your fall, so you canactually see the rocks going
past your head and stuff likethat too.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
So you've got that fall and you see the ground
coming right towards you, right?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
towards you.
But when you're so manythousands of feet up in the air,
you don't see the ground comingtowards you.
But when you're so manythousands of feet up in the air,
you don't see the ground comingtowards you.
So you don't have that fallfeeling.
You do initially.
For the first split second asyou roll out of the plane, you
have that like whoa, that whoalet go moment where you're not
touching anything.
And then, once you arch yourback itself and you're in the

(43:32):
free fall component, it's justlike your wind is blowing your
face and you're suspended in midmid air.
It feels like it doesn't feellike falling at all.
You can look around, you seethe views.
They're gorgeous.
You still got that feeling.
And then when the ripcord ispulled, you know, and you get
that that big rush straight backup.
Um, I was really excitedbecause my instructor was really
really cool and he said to medo you want to fly some of this?
I'm like absolutely so.
He gave me the handles a fewtimes there and he's telling me

(43:53):
what to do.
You put one handle down really,really tight and you do like a
full spiral circle and then youliterally pull that one like let
that one go real quick and thenpull the other one down and you
spiral the other way and thenyou you pull them both down at
the same time and it sort ofpulls you up and then, if you
let them go quick, you get likea zero g feeling, so like that,
that floating feeling where youhave zero g.

(44:14):
So it's almost like you're infor that split second, you're in
outer space feeling.
So that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, yeah, reese did say the when the shoot came out
.
That was actually more fun thanthat for her.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yes, than the free fall.
Yeah, and exactly right,because you got three component
or four components.
You got the initial fall, yougot the free fall, you've got
the parachute component and thenyou got the landing part as
well.
So there's those fourcomponents.
Are what sort of um?
You know what signifies the theactual feeling of it too.
It's josh.
I'm telling you that my lastone, before this one, was over

(44:47):
25 years ago, was the last timeI did it.
Oh, wow, wow.
It feels exactly the same.
There's no difference.
All the feelings came back,everything came back.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Is there an anxiety in the free fall until that
shoot opens up?
Just a slight anxiety?
No, Is the back of your mindlike what if the shoot doesn't
open?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
No, because you're too busy.
You're not even thinking aboutthe chute.
You're there just experiencingthe moment, right there, and in
those seconds, that's all you'reexperiencing.
Josh, you fall at 150 miles perhour.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
So you're traveling at 150 miles per hour with
nothing, no motor, no engine, nocar, nothing at all.
And that's what your speedyou're traveling at, but you
don't know that you're travelingat that speed.
You can't feel it.
You know what I mean.
There's no reference point.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So how long are you free?
How long are you free falling?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
So you free fall for about 30 seconds, 30, 40 seconds
which is still a long 30seconds.
It's still a long time, butit's such a wonderful feeling.
It's just the weightlessness.
You know what I mean.
That sort of thing too, allright, but what I loved as well,

(46:08):
and I didn't know this until Iwent there.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
and that is Josh.
Did you know the very firstparachute jump in history took
place in St Louis.
Wow, yes, ever in the world.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, in 1912, the first ever parachute jump from
an airplane occurred atJefferson Barracks in St Louis
during a World Fair event.
This historic leap marked thebeginning of modern skydiving.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Well, there's your fun fact for the day.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You learned something .
People Exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
On the Toot podcast.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
The treasures of our town, slash cities exactly.
Um, I will say, josh, if everyou're in in any area, whatever
it might be, if you are thinkingabout skydiving, just do it.
You know, like your, like yourtattoo says josh, just just get,
get, get to it, just do it anddon't.
Don't live life with.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
How do you choose a skydiving company?
How do you know that they'vegot all their stuff together to
make sure it's safe?
Do you look at the Googlereviews?
How do you?

Speaker 1 (47:03):
So it's not really about safety, because they're
all stringent control byregulations, government
regulations.
So it's not necessarily aboutsafety, but it is about customer
experience.
So what I would do, if you'rein your area and you've got two
or three skydive locations, havea look at their Google reviews.
Just go through.
You know which one's got thehighest Google reviews, which

(47:23):
one's got the lowest, which oneyou know, and what the reviewer
people tell you about.
Some people will say you know,you know, oh, I love skydive,
this.
The skydive felt fantastic, butthe instructor wasn't
forthcoming with information orwasn't friendly.
You know that sort of thing.
So, um, the skydive itself isalways going to be the same
feeling.
That's not going to change.
What's going to change for youis your experience with the

(47:45):
actual company.
So how you feel, how they makeyou feel, if you're excited, if
you're nervous, you know theymight help you with the
excitement.
They might ease your nervesslightly beforehand.
You know things like that too.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So yeah, yeah.
How much does it cost nowadaysto per person, to skydive?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
so you're looking, you're looking at around the 350
mark to skydive, but that'sjust yeah, that's more than I
thought oh yeah, yeah, it'sstill pricey, especially because
for this one there was only twoof us in the airplane.
So they do a full airplaneascent and descent, you know,
and you're paying for theobviously tandem instructors as
well, you're paying for theinsurance and that sort of stuff

(48:22):
as well.
But what I would say, and thatis get the full package.
When I say full package, I'mtalking about the media package.
So the instructors have all got, uh, little gopros on their
wrists and stuff as well.
Um, you can go for the smallerpackage, which just comes with
photos.
That's boring.
You've got to get the mainpackage, because they do full
interviews with you as wellbeforehand, uh, during um, they

(48:46):
do it to music for you.
It's all cut, ready to go andedited, so you don't have to do
any edits, you know and justchuck it on social media.
Um, and and for me, though, josh, what it does when you get the
media package, it it lets youwatch it, and each time you
watch it you get that samefeeling, you get that same
tingles, you get those samegoosebumps, and then depends on
what song they put with it.

(49:06):
So you know, you know the, theverve, bittersweet symphony,
years and years.
Yeah, that was the first of asong was on my first video of my
first skydive.
I watched it that many times,josh, that today, even today, if
I hear that song on the radio,I get that feeling of skydiving,
I get that.
My mind goes back.

(49:27):
It's like the Pavlov's dog, youknow.
My mind goes back to the timewhen I just felt so free, so
weightless, so you know nothingelse mattered apart from me just
falling out of the sky.
So, but yeah, I say, get themain package as well.
So that main package pumps itup a little bit.
In total it was around the $475mark including the full package

(49:50):
.
So, yeah, so it is a bit pricey, but you know, well worth it,
well worth it.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It's often like a once in a lifetime or, in your
case, a twice in a lifetimeexperience.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Third time.
Third time, lucky for me.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
The next one, the next one you're doing, you're
doing when you're 75, that's thenext one you got to do 25, 50,
75, 100.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, that's right, I will say.
I will say this is not familyfriendly.
But my grandmother, before shepassed away god rest her soul
she went skydiving.
We took her skydiving for her70th birthday.
So her 70th birthday she wentskydiving.
She was with an instructor andwe had a video with a person
with her as well.
She landed, the video guy comeup to her and asked us you know
how was she, how it was, how thewhole skydive was?

(50:36):
She looked directly into thecamera and she said I've never
had six orgasms in one jump inall my life.
That's from my 70 year oldgrandmother.
I did warn you it wasn't familyfriendly, but but that's the
way she was.
And, josh, I told that story ather funeral as well when I did

(50:56):
the eulogy.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
And I bet you got a big laugh.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Big laugh, a big laugh.
She's an incredible woman.
She was an incredible woman and, yeah, my heart goes out to her
.
But yeah, so that's what itdoes, though, josh.
It brings out the best ineveryone.
As I said, just do it Just oncein your life, just do it.
Just do it.
Even if you do it and it scaresthe hell out of you, you're

(51:22):
like I'm never doing that again.
That was so terrible, I'mterrifying, I hate it, I hate it
, I hate it.
At least you've done it, yousee, you've done it, you see.
So that's my saying, that's mysaying.
So there we go, moving on Josh.
After that, of course, afterthat, of course, I'm going to be
quick with this one to acertain degree, but I asked
ChatGPT and I told this as wellto the restaurant.

(51:43):
I asked ChatGPT.
I said I want a fancy dinner, areal nice fancy dinner For my
50th birthday birthday.
I want a fancy meal at alocation in st louis.
Give me the best one you have.
If people don't know what chatgb does, it goes through the
google reviews.
It goes through the, the yelpreviews.
It goes through all thedifferent review apps that are

(52:05):
available and the restaurantreview apps and all of them
itself.
It collates it all together.
It goes through the michelinstars.
It gave me the crossing in stlouis.
It's called the crossing.
Uh, we went there and uh, youknow.
I said, you know my name,booked it, booked the table,
said my name, and they're likeyep, come through, josh.
They had a birthday card on thetable for me because it was my

(52:27):
50th, so they already had abirthday card on the table.
Candles, were there?
Delicious meals?
They?
He came out, the waiter was abrilliant waiter as well got my
bottle of wine, um and and whenhe did the whole, I'm not sure
have you done many fancy meals,josh?
Where the way to?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
serve you.
I've done my fair fair shareyou do the whole.
You know when?
Multi-course?
Yeah, yes, the multi-coursestuff.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
You do the whole, like you know that he pours a
little bit of you for you firstand you do the whole, you know
when.
Multi-course yeah, yes, themulti-course stuff.
You do the whole, like you knowthat he pours a little bit of
you for you first and you do thewhole smell and the sip and
you're yes thank you taste it,do the whole the fancy stuff,
yep did all that yes, absolutelydelicious.
But I've never seen this before,josh.
What he did was he he got thecork out and he put the cork and
squeezed the cork into theactual lid of the bottle and

(53:13):
then placed it right at the baseof the bottle on the table, so
with the the label side up, sothat you can see exactly the
brand label of the cork and then, obviously, you can smell the
cork.
You can see that whatever youwant to.
So I'm like it's just thelittle things like that that
make it actually quite fancy.
So this one here.
There's's two different tastingmenus.
They have they have a premiumtasting menu, which was $75 a

(53:36):
person, and that was threecourses, sorry, four courses in
total with different options.
Josh, I wanted fancier, Iwanted more than that.
It's your birthday.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
It's my birthday.
You only turned 51.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Because what they had ?
They had the chef's grandtasting menu.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Okay, okay, tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
You do not Sounds delicious, you do not pick
anything.
The chef has done it all foryou.
Oh, they bring you the best ofthe best.
They bring you the best of thebest of what they found at local
produce markets during that day.
You see, so it comes out.
It at local produce marketsduring that day.
You see, so it comes out.
It's an eighth course, aneighth course seasonal menu
handcrafted by the chefs.
These chefs are Jim and ChuRain.

(54:20):
Their names are Fresh, localingredients.
You can get with wine pairingsas well.
I didn't, because I already hadthe bottle of wine, but when
they came out these meals, theycome out with smaller portions,
which is really nice and reallyhandy, starting off with a
different type.
So you got some, uh, seafoodinvolved, you had some pasta
dishes, you had a meat dish, youhad some lamb dishes as well,

(54:41):
like it was, and then it cameout with a dessert at the end
and, oh, it's like a sorbet witha raspberry jus on top, like,
oh, josh, I'm talking theflavors that they combined, that
when you ate the individualpieces, for instance, you know
the lamb, you ate the lamb byyourself and you went oh, that's
pretty good, but if you combineevery flavor that's on that

(55:01):
lamb plate at the time it it?
It really accentuates theflavor of the lamb and then the
all the other flavors comeinvolved and you can see how the
flavor profile that they makeon the plate.
It literally hugs each other inyour mouth and you go this,
this is what I needed.
So, yeah, the chef's grandtasting menu.

(55:22):
A bit more pricey $150 perperson.
So it's a little bit morepricey, but it's your birthday.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It's not bad.
It's not bad.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
It isn't bad.
So you can get away if you, ifyou're a table for two, for
instance, with a nice bottle ofwine and the tip included as
well, it's about 500 bucks forthe night.
So yeah, you know a bit pricey,but as I said it's, it's worth
it's not every day.
No, definitely not every day,definitely definitely not every
day, but but a hundred percentworth the crossing in st louis

(55:49):
it's called so and as I, said,it was the little things, my
birthday cards.
I took my birthday card, I tookit.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I like that.
So you told them it was yourbirthday.
Well, when did they ask you?
Is it like a special occasion?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah, in their website, when you actually book
your table and stuff as well,you've actually got these places
where you filled out differentthings.
So you fill out, like your age,you know what are you
celebrating all that sort ofstuff too.
So I filled all that in priorto and went from there.
So that's really cool.
So that was my St Louis trip,josh, so very cool indeed.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
You missed one thing.
Oh, I did.
What did I miss?
You missed something.
I mean all the chat.
Gpt did you.
Well, it sounds great yeah,yeah.
But one of the things that Ihad a lot of fun doing with
Tammy when I went and a coupleother friends, it was the St
Louis official Budweiser tool.
So this is a big location whereit is a huge know.

(56:46):
You talk about the you knowlittle craft breweries.
This is not craft brewery, thisis the factory.
This is willie wonka's beerfactory basically and uh, they
have the budweiser tour in stlouis.
They have several differenttours.
They have the fresh day freshtour, which is 75 minutes and
it's kind of like.
That's kind of like the regularoverview one.

(57:06):
There's a beer master tour andit's 150 minutes.
It has behind the scenes accessto to some of their area, like
if you're like a beer nerd, youdo the beer master yeah, or or
yeah, there is a Clydesdale VIPexperience.
You know what the Clydesdalesare.
Yeah, the horse.
They have the Clydesdale horseson site at this brewery.

(57:31):
You can see the Clydesdales, Ithink, in all of them, but this
one's just special.
If you're like a horse nerd,slash beer nerd, that's the one
for you.
There's a beer school.
I mean, this is kind of like amecca for if you, if you really
want to get an amazing brewerytour, it's really really

(57:52):
interesting and of course,there's a huge beer garden at
the end with unlimited tastings.
But that that is in St Louis,which is one of the other things
that you want to hit.
If you're a 21 and over, youcan't you can't you can't even
visit if you're not 21 over yeahor over, and also st louis is

(58:12):
also known for barbecue, sothere's many many good barbecue
places in the st louis area.
So that would be another one ofmy recommendations if you're in
st louis, to make sure you findmaybe a barbecue place I did
have did have a barbecue for oneof the lunches.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I found a little barbecue spot that wasn't
ChatGPT related.
They didn't give me thebarbecue place.
I did it myself as well, sothat was really cool.
And one other place as well forbreakfast or brunch is the
biscuit joint.
It's called, and so it's likean upper-end waffle house
because they're cookingeverything in front of you and
you sit around the bar area, butmost of it is all on biscuits

(58:51):
and you have different types ofgravies.
You've got five or sixdifferent types of gravies you
can have.
You can have different types ofeggs on top as well, so you can
have like the runny yolk eggs.
So you can.
You crack the runny oaksamongst, mix that with the runny
oak with the gravy into thebiscuits, oh yeah.
With the runny yolk with thegravy into the biscuits, oh yeah
.
And they do tater tots, uh, andthe tater tots are all loaded
with different types of graviesand stuff as well, and cheeses

(59:12):
and whatnot too.
So wow, yeah, yeah, the biscuitjoint.
It's cool too.
So if this podcast hasn't madeyou hungry, I don't know when
you're listening to it, but ifyou're on your way to work now,
you're probably already eatingyour lunch in your car.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Probably, probably.
No, I'm just going to say thisas we sort of wrap up with St
Louis St Louis is one of thosetowns that people don't think
about.
Oh, I'm going to take a tripthere or I'm going to take a
long weekend.
It's very similar to like someof those maybe underrated cities

(59:46):
like Cleveland that we visitedorinnati, I would say st louis
is maybe one of those, and youknow st louis is one of those.
This is my experience.
It's kind of like one of thosedrive drive-through cities.
This is like, oh, I gotta getthrough st louis because you're
always kind of go through it onthe way to somewhere.
And I hope this podcast maybegive gave you some inspiration
to maybe spend at least onenight there, visit the city

(01:00:07):
museum, do the do the archbudweiser tour.
Get some barbecue.
Slow down people, yes, slowdown, yes, you know, and explore
a city that might be a bitsurprising to you, and I think
st louis is one of those onesabsolutely that could be
surprising absolutely,absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
And because, yeah, you think about it, you drive
through and you look and go oh,look at that arch, yeah, okay,
I've seen now and keep driving,stop yeah yeah, it's not, it's
not the same.
It's not the same when you'reactually inside going up this
masterful, absolutely masterfulelevators that they've created,
uh, slash washing machines,slash dryers, and it's an
experience of itself.
It is that's an experience initself as well, just literally

(01:00:48):
getting into something that thatwas created by uh, you know, an
architect with a masterpiece,you know, in order for it to
work properly like it does.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
So that's really cool really, it's kind of like a
modern, a modern wonder of theworld I think, I don't know if
it's actually on that list, butit is.
It's a really amazing monumentand I think we forgot to say
this.
It's right on the river, oh soonce you're up there, the views
are that you get the view on themississippi river.
It's like it's right there.
So even even when you're outthere, I believe like the paddle
boat area and stuff is prettyclose close to that.

(01:01:19):
It's all in that same area.
It's just a neat place toexplore, exactly even if you're
not going up there, which youyou should.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And I will say a big tip as well, and this is if you
want to find parking, easyparking you go park near the
paddle boat areas During the day.
It is $10, but it's $10 for theentire day.
You drive down and around, youpark on the Mississippi River
itself.
There's plenty of parking downthere, near there, and you
literally walk up the hill.
It's a couple of steps to walkup the hill and straight away

(01:01:52):
you're under the arch.
You're under the arch itself.
You can spend the whole daywandering around that city from
that location and then walk backto your car for 10 bucks.
It's a beautiful place to sortof park your car and, uh, and
and I even got a photo from thetop of tuesday my van she was
parked down the bottom as welland I had a nice little close-up
.
You can see her little, her, uh, her solar panels on a roof,
you know, and so I waved to her.
I waved to her from the top.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
It's really cool.
I remember, I remember that.
I remember.
For some reason I rememberparking too, because I remember
where I parked.
It was like right next to theriver, like there was water,
like almost yeah, there's.
It's not like a drop-off, it'slike a slow easement of like
concrete that leads up so youcan park literally the rivers
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
It's not like a drop off into the river.
Exactly, exactly.
You got to be careful.
You can't, if it's low tide orwhatever, the river does rise,
the river does rise.
So you got to be careful.
Goodbye Tuesday.
Hello Wednesday, that's right,but so you've got to be careful.
Goodbye Tuesday.
Hello Wednesday, that's right,but anyway, very cool.
So, yeah, no, definitely, stoppeople and experience these

(01:02:54):
towns, slash cities that youprobably wouldn't stop at.
So exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, and you know, if I lived there, craig, I would
be proud of my town, and that'sa damn rare thing these days,
right, right, right right.
You'd be proud of my town, andthat's a damn rare thing these
days, right, right right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
You'd be proud of the museum.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
That's what you'd be proud of Speaking of that.
Yeah, I know that museum isawesome.
Speaking of being proud of yourtown, a little bit of an update
, I think.
Two episodes, three episodesago, I was like we're putting
together some Treasures of OurTown merch, Some toot, some toot
merch.
If you don't get that, that'sour acronym Toot T-O-O-T, Toot

(01:03:31):
toot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Treasures of downtown .

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
And so, craig, I have the.
It's a really cool logo.
I've shared it with you.
The people have not seen it.
It's really cool.
I'm very proud of this logo andthose.
It's kind of like a how do Isay it?
It's a little bit of an easteregg logo.
Yes, kind of yes.
Anyway, well, I submitted to myt-shirt people, my t-shirt

(01:03:58):
company, which is actuallyteespring, yep, and it was back.
I did it back in february,craig, and there it gotten stuck
.
It's like stuck in production.
I keep checking on it.
I'm like I ordered this thing.
I wanted to order samplesbefore I would put it out there
for the public because I want todo a quality check right and
it's stuck.

(01:04:19):
I messaged them several timesand I literally threatened them.
I said if I don't get theseshirts, I'm going to move on to
another.
Let's be honest, there's lotsof shirt companies, yeah.
So people be patient, it'sgoing to be there.
My hope, correct?
Yes, my hope is that it will beum, ready to go, ready to
purchase um several couple weeksbefore geo woodstock, because I

(01:04:40):
would love, love, love forpeople to buy those shirts and
wear them.
Yes on the day of Geo Woodstock,and if you do, we're going to
figure out something we're goingto give you a good prize.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I don't know what it is, but it's going to be a good
prize if you buy the Treasuresof Our Town shirt and wear it
during the Saturday Giga event.
We'll be wearing them as well,so be patient, folks.
They're coming.
Patrons will be the first toknow when they're ready to go.
I will post it on our Patreon.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
And I will say this as well I got this from the good
old GCPC, and that is all.
Patrons Josh as well will havea discount code issued to them
whereby they get it at costprice as well.
So patrons will get themerchandise at cost price.
I don't think we've evendiscussed that yet, josh, I'm
just landing it on you now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, there's a way.
There's a way for people to getit at cost.
I've done it with my patrons aswell.
So there'll be a code for thatYep exactly, and also speaking
of Geo Woodstock.
It is coming up.
It is it is like six weeks away.
Yes, yes, less than six 50 days.
We're 50 days.
Yes, I want to remind everybodythat we will be on stage
recording a live podcast ofTreasures of Our Town, I believe

(01:05:57):
at noon.
Is it noon or 12.15?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I can't remember.
Sit down, grab your lunch, grabyour lunch, come, sit down,
watch itself and listen, uh, andmake sure you open up your
phone, uh, adventure lab app,because we'll have a very
special adventure lab just forthose live listeners.
And then, after that happens,uh it will, we switch it off.
After we, after we end ourpodcast, we switch off the
adventure lab.
So if you want a nice littlefive-stage adventure lab while

(01:06:23):
sitting and listening to us,make sure you you join us, josh,
on the main stage from aroundnoon or midday, as we say as
well.
I say.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, and you want to get there early because I don't
know what the seating's goingto be like.
But get there early and I justI look at the schedule.
I'm really proud of our podcast, craig, because we get 45
minutes.
A lot of the speakers only get15 minutes exactly so thank you.
Geo woodstock.
We will be as entertaining asyou know what um and and here's

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another new announcement youready for this?
You ready for this?
If you're attending geowoodstock, make sure you go to
midnight madness, which is theevent after.
Yes, because craig and I willbe competing in lackeys versus
influencers, fam, geocaching,family feud.
Yes, you will get to watch ustake down the, the people that

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work at geocachingcom.
I have a hunch that we mightknow.
We know a lot, we know, we do,we do and you've got to remember
, josh, I used to host.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
I used to host, um, you know, the, the, the quizzes,
trivia, trivia, the gf's andtrivia, you know so I've got,
I've got.
I'm gonna brush up that I'mgonna brush up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah, you know, you know they're gonna put some
ringers in.
Oh yeah, like the ringers aregonna be like annie loves.
You know annie loves gonna bein there.
She's worked there for like 20years.
You know brian roth is gonna bethere, the president.
But how awesome, yeah, howawesome, craig, if we take them
down?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Oh, yes, I would be.
That would be the highlight ofmy geocaching career so far.
I'll be honest with you yeah,so we're talking smack right now
.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Geocaching there is an official geocaching podcast,
an HUQ podcast.
So, yeah, I wonder if RockChalk might be on it too, Maybe,
maybe he's the host of thatpodcast as well.
So anyway, come to that,that'll be very entertaining.
Midnight Madness is kind of acoin path tag trading event.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
After the big mega and there'll be a lot of path
tag trading.
Speaking of path tags, holy cow, I don't want to get too much
in the weeds, but have you evenseen the scare we have with the
tariffs and stuff like that thatpath tags are?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
oh yes, I know really expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I'm happy it's going to be tough for people to
produce.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I'm happy, though, josh.
I got my new path tags, whichyou gave to me as well, because
I'm delivered to you, so thankyou for that.
Um, it's in my new ambassador,because I'm a proud ambassador
of g woodstock, so I got, uhambassador tags made up.
That's cool.
They're very.
They were still very expensiveback in then as well, and yeah

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but, now, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Depending what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Who knows?
But still still it'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
It will be.
It will be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
And even if you don't have path tags, come and watch
us take down the legs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Exactly, exactly.
But speaking of the merch, Joshas well, and just saying before
about patrons, can get adiscount for our merch coming up
.
If you want to become a patronbefore that happens, then how do
they do that, Josh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Yeah, you can support us at patreoncom treasures of
our town.
I'm sorry I'll say it againpatreoncom backslash treasures
of our town.
It is there that we have allour golden nuggets.
We have behind the scenes stuffwe have.
We're going to have discountson our shirts merch.
You're going to get news beforeanybody else and you can feel
good in your heart forsupporting a podcast that

(01:09:38):
actually we need you, yeah, wedo.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
This is not a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
This is not a pro, this is not a for profit venture
.
This is this is a service tothe world, the geocaching
community and beyond, exactly Tohelp people explore different
places that maybe they haven'tvisited before.
Exactly or other travel-relateditems Exactly.
So consider joining us onPatreon.
We really appreciate thesupport.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
We absolutely do, absolutely do, but otherwise,
josh, how can other peoplecontact us if they wish to
contact us with ideas?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yes, feel free to reach out to us at Treasures of
Our Town podcast at gmailcom, oryou can follow us on Facebook,
instagram, twitter and YouTube.
Or if you search Treasures ofOur Town in Google, it'll go to
our Buzzsprout site and thenright there you can put a
message in.
Right there We'll get themessage.
Just make sure you tell us whoyou are, yeah because it doesn't
come up as to who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
It's just a random message from an unknown person.
So that's really cool.
So, Josh, that's it for ourshow today.
Please subscribe, rate andreview on your favorite
podcasting app.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
And, as always, your travels always lead you to the
most unexpected, amazing hiddengems, like St Louis, and we'll
see you next time when we meetyou in St.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Louis, st Louis.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Louis, meet you in St .

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Louis, louis, meet you in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
St.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Louis, bye, bye.