The US Oldest Geocaches and the Local Treasures Near Them.

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In this episode of Treasures of Our Town, hosts Joshua and Craig explore the unique and charming towns across the USA, focusing on the oldest active geocaches. They share their experiences from the recent BamaRama mega event, discuss the significance of geocaching, and highlight the hidden gems surrounding these historical caches. The conversation is filled with personal anecdotes, travel tips, and insights into the geocaching community. In this conversation, Joshua and Craig explore various geocaching locations across the United States, sharing personal experiences and insights about the unique challenges and rewards of each site. They discuss the beauty of Oregon's wilderness, the historical significance of caches in Illinois, and the vibrant culture of Chicago. The conversation also delves into spooky adventures in New York and the unique charm of Kansas City, culminating in a thrilling tale of swimming in a snowy pond during a geocaching trip. In this episode, Joshua and Craig discuss their experiences with hiking, geocaching, and exploring unique roadside attractions across the United States. They share stories about high-altitude hikes, local museums, and the thrill of finding hidden caches. The conversation also delves into local legends like the Mogollon Monster, the quirky UFO Watchtower, and the impressive Bishop's Castle. Listeners are encouraged to explore these hidden gems and enjoy the beauty of nature and adventure.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was just going to say, before you move on, that
kind of sounds like my nude cashvideo that's recently published
on my channel as well.
I was more thinking of thesix-inch biceps, but then you
kept on going on about.
The hair was the main thing.
It was pretty hairy.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Do you love to travel , do you?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
love to travel.
Do you love road trips?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Do you love finding hidden treasures in towns all
over the USA?
Hi, I'm Joshua.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm Craig.
Welcome to Treasures of OurTown.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's the podcast that explores the unique and
charming towns scatteredthroughout the United States,
Guided by our love forlocation-based games like
geocaching, join us as weventure into some of the
country's most intriguingdestinations uncovering hidden
gems and local secrets along theway.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
On today's episode, I've been so busy, so so busy
down here in Alabama that Joshyes, the man, the Joshua, the
geocaching vlogger he's done allthe research for me today as
well, and we're going to talkall about the USA's oldest
active geocachers.
But also, josh, you picked upall the surrounding things, like
the tourist attractions aroundthem as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes, if people are going to go to the oldest
geocaches in the United States,they can't just go to the
geocache.
There's tons of other thingsthat they could do.
They can make a whole tripvisiting one of these geocaches
and we are a travel podcastafter all one of these geocaches
, so, and we are a travelpodcast after all.
So I thought this would be.
This is very much a geocachingguided travel podcast show today

(01:31):
.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
This is going to be a heavy geocache show as well.
So you know, those of you outthere who are inclined to
geocaching, then you know, Ithink you'll still like it,
because of what's around thearea too, josh.
So I like that.
I like that for sure.
But as always, josh, as always,I can't, I can't, I can't.
Just wait, I got to get rightinto it.
Delays and upgrades.

(01:53):
Delays and upgrades.
Josh, who's going to go firstand with what?
Well, you got to go first,because you have been in the
thick of it for 10 days, man.
I I'm telling you now.
I thought about it today whenyou said to me.
I was actually so, as we recordthis very, very rare, but we're
recording this very, very late.

(02:13):
It is sunday night, like we'retalking, like josh, it's it's
seven hours before the show goeslive on the podcast itself that
we're actually recording.
It's seven hours.
I'm not gonna get any sleeptonight, josh, for the edit
anyway.
But yeah, I've been thinkingabout it all day today at
BamaRama, the big mega event,and I don't really have a delay

(02:35):
per se.
All I'll say is this that I ambuggered, slash, tired for you
Americans after a big 10 days ofgeo parties 10 days and all
those events.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
like I've been to Bama Rama, they know how to
party down there.
So I am sure you are quite,quite buggered.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
So that's your delay, that you're just exhausted.
I'm just exhausted.
Yeah, that's my delay.
It's a hard delay to have let'sbe honest.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, well, my delay is that I have serious, serious
fomo of the amorama, as I amhere in the Minnesota tundra.
It is current seven degreeshere and boy, boy, I really,
really missed.
I missed it as I was watchingall your stuff on social media.

(03:34):
I saw parades, I saw our friendBrandon Giles do the do the
great balls of fire.
This time he actually startedhis piano on fire which we
missed last time.
We did.
Yes, I missed a lot, so that'sgot to be your upgrade.
Craig, tell us a little bitabout BamaRama 100% Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Just a small twinkling on BamaRama, josh, and
that is this it is 10 days oflead-up events, not including
the BamaRama, the big megaitself, lead-up events, not
including the BamaRama, the bigmega itself.
Lead-up events is 10 days.
They start off with one eventon the first day and then two
events every day after that.
So not one event each day, no,no, two events every single day

(04:14):
In total, josh.
I'm talking two CETOs, I'mtalking two community
celebration events and then 10events before the big block
party and, of course, thenthere's an event tomorrow saying
goodbye.
So, yes, that's the way it isup here, down here in bamarama,
yeah, yep, yep, but but I willsay it was fantastic.

(04:36):
The people here are brilliant.
Uh, it's really really nice.
Um, I'm gonna let somethingleak right here right now, just
just for our people, ourlisteners 2026, bama Rama 2026,.
It's going to involve, see, myShell.
That's right, myself will be onthe committee for 2026, bama

(04:57):
Rama 2026.
I'm on the committee.
I got myself on the committee,nice, I've got some ideas, and
the committee were happy to haveme on too.
So I've been hanging out withthe committee part of the
committee all week long, or 10days long too.
The two Laura's had three,three bonfire, official bonfire
events at their property, acouple of unofficial ones as

(05:20):
well.
I will say that too, man, theseguys down here here, they do
know how to party, but but but Iwill say, I will say again,
outside of geocaching, becausethis is not just about
geocaching, but outside ofgeocaching, our friend brandon
giles, at two weeks ago, josh,he reached out to you and I see

(05:42):
he sent us an email.
He then followed up with aFacebook messenger message as
well, saying guys, thank you somuch.
I've just listened to theepisodes from last year and how
your kind words and yourexperiences from an audience
member really what do you saylike it pleasures him.
So then, you know that sort ofstuff and if you're ever, if

(06:05):
you're ever back in this area,let me know.
I didn't, I didn't let him know.
I thought, no, no, I'll look atwhere he's playing.
So this time when I managed toget to him, it was a Friday
night.
He was playing in a very subtlelounge bar.
Josh, it wasn't the floor,obama, it was not the floribama,

(06:28):
so the electricity was notthere.
As much, as much and as much.
But you know what, he as much,but you know what?
Because you know what he's like.
He creates his own, he createshis own buzz.
And yes, josh, I waited, Iwaited with bated breath someone
.
He turned around and said anyrequest?
And some guy said great ballsof fire.
And I went, oh, I said here wego.
I was with a couple of friendsI I said here we go, here we go,
josh.
He stripped the top off and Ithought he's going to do it.

(06:49):
He's going to do it, he's goingto do it.
So I got my phone ready.
He put the lighter fluid on top.
He stands up as well, startsplaying, starts singing great
balls of fire, keyboard lightsup with the lighter fluid and
then slowly, slowly, dies downas he keeps playing away and

(07:09):
bashing at those keys, you know.
So I spoke to him at hisinterval and I reached out and I
said you know, craig, you knowfrom Treasures of Our Town and
you know, thank you so much foryour message.
You know, thank you forlistening.
And he's like no, no, thank youso much for actually talking
about him as well.
Now I asked him.
I said I finally saw you withthe light-up keyboard.

(07:30):
He said Floribama don't allowit.
But apparently he played atFloribama last week and he did
it and got in trouble, so hewent.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
No, I'm just going to do it.
That's what Jerry Lee Lewiswould do.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Exactly exactly he went.
No, I'm just gonna do that'swhat jerry lee lewis would do,
exactly exactly so, uh, yeah, ifyou don't know who brendan joel
is, no, yeah, yeah, if youdon't know who brendan joel is,
I'll put a link absolutely inour show notes to him and all
his social media stuff as well.
So that's anyway, josh.
That's my big, big, bigupgrades for this last two weeks
, and I am tired Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I did see a photo of a giant life-size Monopoly board
.
Oh yes, Is that true.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yes, yes.
So what happened is, as part ofBamaRama for this year, the
theme was board games, and soevery single event we went to,
we had to sign the board gameboard for that event, whether it
be trap or Scrabble.
We actually played humanScrabbles as well, whereby we
all had a letter each and we hadto make up words and the
biggest word, because they havethese things called Bama Bucks,

(08:39):
and so you win these Bama Buckswhich you can then turn in for
prizes back at the big event.
So, all week long, getbamabucks, bamabucks, bamabucks
and uh.
So yeah, it was all um boardgame themed, and so this what
they did, josh, incredible theymade an actual human-sized uh
monopoly board made out of uhportable bird um birdhouses, and

(09:03):
each birdhouse was its owngadget cache Inside.
Each of those bird houses was anumber.
Once you got in was a number.
Once you get that number, youthen have five-stage adventure
labs one, two, three, four,five-stage adventure labs for
each side itself, and then youhave another one for overall for
the adventure labs.
A little bit of math, a littlebit of math to work it all out,

(09:25):
but it is possible.
I'm saying it took probablyabout 45 minutes to an hour to
actually complete it properly,if you were with a group of
people completing it properly,45 minutes to an hour, but in
that timeframe you got five full.
Well, it was four, five stage.
No, actually, no, sorry, I waswrong Four 10 stage adventure

(09:46):
labs, plus an extra bonus to 10stage 50 adventure labs in that
hour.
So yes, yes, yes, oh, that's soawesome.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Incredible.
And it sounds so creative too.
That's super creative.
I love that, Josh.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
they even had a jail.
They even had a jail in thecorner, like go to jail, go
directly to jail, and you had toget in the jail.
You had to actually get intothe side of the jail to unlock
the code for the jail too, whichis really awesome.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh my gosh, that's so fun.
So, Craig, do you know thetheme for next year's?
Have they announced?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
that?
Yes, they have announced it.
Of course, as always, theyannounced it at the end of it,
and I was part of the themeannouncement this time, josh,
because I was proudly displayingmy Australian flag, my country
flag, and the reason for it isbecause I ran around the
audience as he said what it wasand it is the Olympics, so it is
Olympic-themed for next year.

(10:39):
It is in February next year aswell, which is in actually the
same timeframe as the WinterOlympics, so they're having it
at the same time as the WinterOlympics.
They're also including againthe big Mardi Gras parade that
you saw on my social media.
We walked alongside the floatsas they're dancing alongside the
floats, so they're chucking thebeads out, chucking the toys.
I've never seen anything likethis, josh.

(11:01):
We don't have that in Australia.
Not at all's insane, insanethat's so cool.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I saw you with captain math running, captain
math running by all the all thefloats man, that guy can move
for his age I'm telling you nowI I think I even said it too.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I said, like you know , this is a math teacher, but
he's a fit math teacher becausehe had me trying to keep up with
him running.
Um, if you haven't seen, is amath teacher, but he's a fit
math teacher because he had metrying to keep up with him
running.
If you haven't seen that it'son, I believe.
It's a worldwide geocachingFacebook page and he's one of
the Facebook page creators slash, you know admins, and so he's
allowed to go live with that,and so he went live with that

(11:40):
with me, asked me as well.
I'm going to say as well Josh,josh.
A big, huge shout out tocaptain math.
At this event, he really turnedon the stars.
There was even a captain mathum gadget cache created for him
and it's his full face paintedlike captain math.
It looks exactly like him, andhe was so proud to get ftf on it

(12:01):
too.
So, yeah, yeah, they lovecaptain they love him.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Denny, that kind of reminds me of that gadget cache
with the bad scientists with themarbles that we saw last year.
Remember that one?
Yes, yes, yeah, very similar tothat.
Bad scientists on it.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes, yes, yes, exactly, exactly.
Anyway, that's enough of myupgrade, because I'm telling you
now it's a lot, it's a lot.
All I'll say is you have notbeen to BamaRama Mega events,
then you need to get to 2026.
It's going to be huge.
I'm part of the team so I cantell you now it is going to be
huge.
I might be able to link a fewthings here and there coming up.

(12:39):
You really, really can, ifyou're a snowbird or retired, if
you can get here for the startof the, the lead-up events.
It's a fun time, josh, anabsolutely fun time.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So, yeah, yeah well, I'm not going to make a mistake
and not go next year, so I'mgoing to make a make it a
priority.
They are so, they are socreative and they're just such a
fun group of people down there.
So, yeah, yep yep, okay, shouldwe get into our topic?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
well, well, did you?
Did you give me your upgrade?
You didn't give me your upgrade.
You're too busy, oh sure what'syours.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
My upgrade is so not as cool as yours, so it's just
it's your upgrade.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's not not mine, it's yours mate.
It's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay I did get outside this weekend, believe it
or not, it's.
It was like it's frigid, but Igot out and I spent some time
with our friend minnesota boy,minnesota boy, minnesota bray,
his brother gravity bear and,yes, our friend courtney, at
mecca mn.
And we went to a Munzee eventtogether, oh nice.

(13:46):
We went to a brewery together.
Wow see that's fun.
I re-qualified for the Jasmercache and they helped me get a
tree climb cache, but I didn'teven have to climb.
My video is in the show notes.
You can see it by my upgrade ofwhat I did this weekend.

(14:07):
Not quite as cool as Bamorama,but still I was able to get
outside and get some fresh air,so that's good.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
And it's cool in other ways, in terms of
temperature rather than coolness, as in quality Very cool.
Speaking of cool, Josh,apparently these oldest caches
that we're going to talk abouttoday are pretty cool as well.
Tell us a little bit about howyou researched and what you did
to get them all.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, I just thought that we would highlight some of
these premier caches.
If you're not a geocacher, oneof the goals of geocachers are
to try to find these old, oldgeocaches, especially since
geocaching is 25 years old.
All the geocaches that we'rementioning on the show today are
25 years old.

(14:54):
They have been there for 25years.
At the very birth of geocachingwhich means at the very birth
of geocaching it was mostly outin the woods sort of sport.
So the interesting thing aboutthese geocaches, these 10 active
old geocaches, is that they'repretty much Craig in the middle

(15:15):
of nowhere.
There is not much else aroundthem at all.
But it got me thinking okay,they're in the middle of nowhere
, but there's got to be somehidden gems around these places.
So I did some research aroundthe 30 mile, 30 miles ish

(15:36):
driving area of each of theseand I couldn't actually I had to
expand it almost in two hoursand in some cases because some
of these were literally in themiddle of nowhere.
But I thought it'd be fun totalk about these old caches and
talk about some of the thingsaround them to travel to Yep,
yep, perfect, perfect.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
And so some of these things and we're talking some,
as you said before, josh well,they're old caches, 25 years old
.
Now again, if you're not ageocacher, we're going to
actually talk about what theycall GC codes, and a GC code is
a geocaching code.
The smaller the code,predominantly, the older it is.
So these codes themselves arepretty much predominantly four
digits long, including theletters GC.

(16:16):
So they're really, really old.
We're going to start withnumber one, josh.
We're going to straight in.
Before we do, how many have youfound out of these 10, I should
say.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, it's a fun fact.
I have found half of them.
I have found five of the 10,which I was actually impressed
with.
I was like, okay, I found fiveof the 10.
How many have you found?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Four, four of the 10, josh, four of these 10 of the
oldest in the USA.
I was pretty excited about that.
I was actually a little bitshocked.
I was a little bit shockedbecause I'm not one of those to
look out for.
I don't have them on my to-findlist, not like my Cash Across
America series and that sort ofthing too.
They're on my to-find list, butnot as much as the oldest.

(16:58):
But yes, I was a bit surprised.
All right, we'll start withnumber one.
Number one should be nosurprise to most
geocaching-apertured people aswell, and that is called Mingo
GC30.
Colby, candice, josh, you and Ihave both found this one.
What's the experience like?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
What would you say that people can expect if they
try and find Mingo GC30?
Well, not only have we bothfound this, but we have found
this together, craig.
Yes, we have gone to thistogether, which makes it even
more special.
And actually I've been to thisgeocache actually twice the
first time, the first time Iwent to this geocache, I was
with my young, young family andall of a sudden a guy walks up

(17:42):
to my door and he's completelynaked and my kids are just
laughing their heads off as thisguy is just like, wants to get
a picture with the geocachenaked.
Oh, it was.
Oh, boy, I didn't know how tofeel about that with my kids, my

(18:03):
kids there oh yeah, yeah, nonot so family friendly, you know
.
Let's be honest no, and thisisn't.
You know, there's caches thatpeople are encouraged to find
naked.
This is not one of those.
No, no, no.
Anyway.
So Mingo, gc 30, it's in themiddle of nowhere.

(18:25):
And when I say the middle ofnowhere, it's in the middle of
nowhere, kansas, right off thehighway, and it is literally
just on the side of a farmer'sfield, next to a fence post, and
it is literally inside theground.
It's like underground, it'slike a, I think currently it's

(18:46):
just like a big giant pvc pipe,but yes, it's the world's oldest
, it is.
It is geocaching holy ground.
So you have to visit mingo.
Yeah, what about your?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
experience well when we're talking about world's
oldest structure.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
It is geocaching holy ground, so you have to visit
Mingo.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
What about your experience?
Well, when we're talking aboutworld's oldest geocaching, we're
talking about the world'soldest physical geocaching, the
one you can actually find thathas a physical container.
We're not talking aboutvirtuals and the like as well.
So that's what we're talkingabout.
My experience, josh, I've haddone this twice as well, the
second time with you at thattime at Mingo Madness, but I had
to get Josh.
I had to In 2018, when I comeacross the good old US of A and

(19:22):
did my big road trip forCincinnati.
This was big, big bucket listtick for me.
So I'll tell you now.
I was a little bit underwhelmedby just pulling off the highway
, pulling around a little dirtroad, getting out and just
seeing it there in the cornerwent is this it?
I drove, I went across theentire world and this was my

(19:44):
number one to find and I waslike, ah, that's all it is check
, check, I found it exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, and the town, the town of mingo.
The town of Mingo is like allthat's really there is like a
church and maybe a couple houses.
I mean, it's a very, very small, small town.
Do you remember when we visitedthe church at Mingo Madness,
they were so excited that allthese geocachers were coming to
little tiny Mingo, that allthese geocachers were coming to

(20:16):
little tiny Mingo, I think.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
If I remember correctly, they got told by the
organizers that they were goingto come and they were going to
be there, and so they had like alittle lemonade stand and some
drinks and some snacks out thefront as well cookies, but also
the local geocaching communitythere with Mingo Madness when
they hosted that they also didall those.
Remember those really coollooking caches where we had the

(20:41):
outhouse, the actual toilethanging in the tree, and then
there was the corner storehanging in another tree and
stuff like that too.
So really cool lookinggeocaches Not really gadgety,
there were some, but not all ofthem, but some of them were just
brilliant looking though yeah,I enjoyed those.
Not all of them, but some ofthem are just brilliant looking.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I enjoyed those .
Yeah, there is a really nice,almost travel bug hotel.
It's like a general store thatis actually in town.
It's like a wood old schoolgeneral store that they made
into a geocache.
I remember that cache.
But there are other thingsnearby.
There is the Southwind AntiqueMall, so all you antiquers and

(21:19):
vintage lovers, it's close tomingo, I don't know.
I don't know what city is andyou'd have to look that up.
Um, the prairie museum of artand history features an enormous
barn I think we saw oh my gosh,we saw that we remember in town
, in colby k Kansas.
Yes, yes, in Colby, kansas itwas like the world's largest

(21:41):
barn, or at least Kansas'largest barn.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, I remember that .

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And there was a barn gadget cache.
There was a barn gadget cacheright next to it, so that was
pretty cool.
Yep, yep, that was cool, but Ivisited this on the way to Bingo
in Goodland, kansas.
It's the world's largest easel.
It's just a giant reproductionof Vincent Van Gogh's sunflower
painting on an 80-foot easel.

(22:07):
Have you visited?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
that.
Yes, I have, mate.
Yes, I have, absolutely.
You can't miss that.
Our listeners know, josh, it'sexactly what tickles our fancy
and it tickles them as well, andthat is anything that's world's
largest.
We're talking about roadsideattractions, for instance.
I'm not going to spoil anything, but we've got roadside
attractions coming up next monthtoo.
And, josh, just to let everyoneknow, if you're a patron,

(22:31):
listen up, patrons, listen up,because we're going to do
something special for patronsfor our March Madness.
But anyway, moving back to it,all the links for some.
You got some videos, josh, inthe show notes as well.
What are they for?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, all the videos are the videos of you and I
visiting the whole area.
I have there's four videos inthere.
There are four videos ofvisiting Mingo, so take a look.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's awesome?
Yep, absolutely.
And, of course, mingo is one ofthe ones that we've both
visited as well.
Moving on to number two, josh,we have Geocache.
That's all it is.
It's actually called Geocacheand it is GC12.
It's near, what is it?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Escatada, escatada, escatada, escatada, escatada,
escatada.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oregon In Oregon, it's in Oregon.
Have you found this one, josh?
Do you recall?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, I found this one .
I found this one on a coach buswith 37 Germans.
So I hiked up to this thingwith 30 37 germans.
I took a in 2018.
I took a bus trip to find allthe old geocaches with a bunch
of germans, with, uh, danielflieger's company cache horizon,
so that's that's who I foundgc12 and I remember one thing.

(23:53):
I remember pulling up, I don'tknow because did you find this
one craig?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yes, I did, yes, I did, and I remember this one
quite vividly as well, which ispretty cool.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, so when you pull up, there's like a sign and
the sign just like.
I don't remember what the signsaid, but it was just filled
with bullet holes.
It was just like bulletpractice and you're just kind of
like okay it is, josh, youthink about.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
It is actually hidden quite deep in the, in the
oregon wilderness itself.
Um, you know, you do have to dothat that drive up to get there
.
It's but it's beautiful drive.
It is a stunning like anythingreally in oregon anywhere, those
drives where there's lots oftree foliage and overhanging,
they're stunning drives.
And then, though, because it'soregon as well, it's kind of a.
I was coming to say it's like a.

(24:38):
It's a wet state, just like themoist state you know, like it
gets a lot of rain, a lot ofrain for itself, so it can be a
bit of a muddy hike.
It was a bit of a muddy hikefor me to get up, uh, but again,
josh, once you get up there, asas like like most old caches,
they take you to beautifullocations and and is it true for
you whereby, as soon as itopened up, you're like oh,

(25:00):
you're in the wilderness, you're, you're on top of the world.
Basically the feeling, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, I remember this hike being pretty
long, I think.
Yes, I think it was well.
First it was, I know it was ahike up so we were going up most
of the time.
I remember that and I would.
I think I remember it beinglike two miles one way, so it
was like an over four mile hikeround trip.
Do you remember it being thatlong?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, yeah, absolutely .
Cause I was by myself doingthis one, and so I was umming
and ahhing at first, cause Ididn't know how long it'd take
me to do.
And this is when I was on atime crunch as well, because it
was my first time over to the USand I was doing the whole big
across the US trip.
So, yeah, it was.
It was quite long, but Ithought to myself you know what?
I'll probably never come backto the US again, so I might as

(25:50):
well get it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean, it is the second oldest geocache in the
world.
You gotta visit it, you gottago, you gotta go.
I had to.
This is actually also veryclose to the original stash
plaque.
It is in the same area as that,so you can get this one, you
can get the original stashplaque.
And then I think there'sanother really old one, like a

(26:18):
top 20 old one, I think it's gc,I think it's gc 16, I'm not
sure, um, but that's also in thearea as well.
So this is, this is thebirthplace, really, craig, of
geocaching.
So and again, this is againgeocaching holy ground.
But, craig, there are otherthings around there.
As always, josh, as always,yeah, always hidden gems.

(26:40):
There is the Phillips FosterFarm, which is a hands-on
pioneer life exhibit.
You can go like into pioneertimes.
You could probably pretendyou're on the Oregon Trail.
After all, it's in Oregon.
Yeah, you're going to love this.
Craig Fearless Brewing CompanyGreat craft beer and a cozy
setting.
Oregon.

(27:00):
Yeah, you're going to love this.
Craig Fearless Brewing CompanyGreat craft beer in a cozy
setting Num num, num, num, numnum num.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
And we both know as well I was going to say, Josh,
we both know as well our goodfriend, Minnesota boy, Minnesota
boy, Minnesota boy, and yourgood friend as well, Mecca MN,
that you were out with duringthe week.
They both have a new podcast aswell, which we mentioned as
well.
So, yeah, take a look at that,the Brewery Adventure.
Anyway, keep moving on Apartfrom the brewing company.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
what's next?
In Elsie, oregon, which is alsonearby, there is a logging
museum which has just giant sawsand historic logging trucks.
So if you ever wanted to learnabout logging and see some giant
saws, that's where you go theLogging Museum.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Now our listeners out there, especially patrons as
well.
I was going to say before youmove on, before you move on the
Logging Museum, obviously that'sgot to do with the lumberjacks
of the like and of old schooland old days.
Now, if anyone's out therelistening to us patrons
especially if you meet Joshuathe Jig Cashing Vlogger at any
event, and he invites you to goaxe throwing with him like a

(28:08):
logger, josh, he pulls out hisinner logging background and,
wearing his plate, like the redand black checkered shirts as
well, and all of a sudden, josh,you throw those axes like a man
that's built for logging and alumberjack.
So, joshua the jacuzzilumberjacker.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I am surprisingly good at throwing axes.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I didn't know this was a talent, that.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I had until we did it in Owensboro Kentucky.
Yeah, All right, Craig, here'sthe best thing I found.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
What's the best thing you found?
The best thing I found nearthis area was in Oregon City,
which is just north of the Cache.
It's a place called TreeClimbing Planet.
What Tree Climbing Planet?
Yeah, what do you do with treeclimbing?
It's a farm dedicated toteaching people the professional

(29:10):
, professional art of treeclimbing.
It's a tree climbing farm.
Is it art to it?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Is it art to it?
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, it's a tree climbing to it.
There's an art to it, yeah, Iguess.
So, yeah, there's, it's an art,they there's.
There's all these courses andprofessional tree climbing like
courses that you learn and andmust be a lot of trees to climb.
It's a 150 acre farm and it's asafe place.
I'm sure they have all theequipment.
It's a safe place.
I'm sure they have all theequipment.

(29:38):
It's a safe place to practicetree climbing, which, hey, for
geocachers, that is a very, verygood skill to have.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh, absolutely, except if, in Joshua's case,
whereby he goes out with friendsthat you know, climb the tree
for him so he can just sign thelog and fill his next jasmine.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
If you'll see the video this week.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
the original plan on my video this week was I brought
Courtney because she's a rockclimber, so I was like, okay,
Courtney's going to climb up thetree.
But then Gravity Bear showed upand he brought a super long
pole and that's how we got itdown.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh, okay, pole instead of the climb, that's
right.
Tree climbing showed up and hebrought a super long pole and
that's how we got it down.
Yeah, oh okay, but hole insteadof the climb, that's all right,
all right.
Moving on to yeah, number three.
Number three is its name isbeverly and it's gc28 gc28 near
beverly in illinois.
Have you done this one, john?
Oh, I haven't, I haven't, Ihaven't, so I can't talk about

(30:38):
this one.
I can't talk about this one.
What?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
was your experience with it?
This one is very near ourfriend Scott Burks, who you are
a co-host with on the GeocachingPodcast.
This is a suburb of Chicago,basically, and it is in a kind
of a you know, it's a forestpreserve in suburban Illinois.
So this one is remote for likethe Chicagoland area, but it's

(31:04):
not as remote as the first two.
But it is the third oldestgeocache in a park that has lots
of geocaches in it.
So if you go there you won'tget just beverly, but there's
lots of other great caches inthere in there as well, and I
haven't.
When I visited, I visited withthe reester bunny.

(31:24):
I just happened to be in town.
I can't remember why we were intown, but I I went into the
park the wrong way.
So you know how.
Like you know how, like Waze orlike Google Maps gives you the
driving directions to geocaches,but it often gives you the
direction of the closest pointwhere the road is.
So it didn't take me, it didn'ttake me to the park entrance.

(31:48):
It took me to like, so I had tolike we had to like climb a
fence and like bushwhack throughto beeline it to Beverly,
bushwhack through to beeline itto beverly, um, and as we were
doing it, like it was gettingdark and like it was one of
those moments where I felt alittle nervous, like, oh my gosh
, I should have marked the carbecause I I don't know if I'm
gonna be able to find the car,um, but we did.

(32:10):
And, yeah, we got the thirdoldest geocache, which is
beverly you know that's.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
That's really cool, that's really cool.
But uh, also josh as well, ifyou're not.
If you're not a geocache, whichis Beverly in a forest preserve
, that's really cool.
But also Josh as well.
If you're not a geocacher, thenyou don't understand this term.
But it's quite easy tounderstand if you think about it
.
And that is as geocachingpeople, as soon as we find the
cache, you always find theeasiest way out.
You always find the geotrailout.

(32:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
So what's?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
around this sort of area, Josh.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well, one of the places that's around it is
Chicago.
Yes of course have you spentmuch time in Chicago, Craig.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Zero Josh, zero, zero time in Chicago, really
Interesting I have not been tobeen to chicago.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's a great city, that's one you gotta get to
eventually, yeah, um, butchicago has so much, so much to
offer.
But I'm going to tell you acouple things that are some off
the beaten path.
Uh things, niles illinois.
Niles illinois is the home of ahalf-size replica of the

(33:20):
Leaning Tower of Pisa.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
It's half the size.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, that sounds like a cool roadside attraction
to me.
It might be a roadsideattraction March Madness, who
knows.
But yeah, niles, illinois, alittle town, has a half-size
Leaning Tower of Pisa, whichsounds pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
There's also some museums.
There's some museums andthere's, of course, a craft
brewery.
There's a craft brewery calledthe Horse Thief Hollow.
Not only beer, butSouthern-inspired dishes.
You know, we love thoseSouthern-inspired dishes.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, I've had a few mate down here in in alabama
just saying, just saying so,nice job, nice job.
Moving on to number four, josh,we have the spot.
The spot is gc, code gc39.
It's near nyack in new york andI think that's new york state.
Tell us, josh, have you donethis one?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
No, sadly I've not.
You know, this is one of thoseareas that we got to get up
there because we've talked abouta lot of like I think it's in
Northern New York.
We've talked about going therefor various different things
featured on this podcast and thespot the spot is one of them.
It is, um, it is a moderatehike, according to many of the
logs that we have read.
Um, it's one of the oldest, uh,it's in the one of the oldest.

(34:50):
It is the oldest in the easternunited states, but there's a
well-established geocachingtrail so there must be a very
good geo trail to this geocache.
There's nearby, the HudsonRiver is nearby, and so there's
some really beautiful, beautifulspots along the way.
So it sounds, craig, like abeautiful hike.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
It really does, and I've read some of the logs as
well, Josh, and some of themtalk about different wildlife,
like deer, sightings and thingslike that too, which is I'll
tell you now, Josh.
For me, even a squirrelsometimes is just like oh
squirrel.
It's one of those things whereyou know you're in nature.
Anything nearby, Josh, Anythingnearby.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I found something kind of freaky Craig,
kind of spooky, scary theClausland Mountain Tunnels,
these freaky tunnels that youwalk down them.
There's got to be a geocache inthese tunnels.
They're super long tunnels andso these tunnels were created
for World War I for people to dotarget like shooting.

(35:58):
They shot like rifles into intothese tunnels.
That's what they were createdfor.
But now they're just theseabandoned tunnels that have like
graffiti and there's like a lotof lore around these tunnels
like creepy, like satanic stuff.
That probably didn't everhappen.
But people go down in thesetunnels and again, if we looked

(36:22):
more into it, I bet you theseare perfect spots for geocaches
because these tunnels are likehigher than you know a human so
you can walk through them.
But yeah, look it up, clauslandMountain Tunnels they look,
really creepy freaky kind of alost place.
You know, when you go to Europe,Europe has a lot of lost places

(36:44):
like this, so the fact that wehave kind of these, this is kind
of a lost place.
It just sounded superinteresting so that was one of
the cool things near the spot.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
And what else did you learn as well?
What other stuff was there?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
again lots of museums , and one of the museums is the
letchworth village of ruins.
This is in feels new york, greg, it's also creepy an eerie
abandoned psychiatric hospital.
So can you imagine goingthrough an abandoned psychiatric

(37:20):
hospital?
It's a ruins.
Oh my gosh, that sounds, soundsterrifying.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Sounds terrifying well, I've seen a couple of
videos online move on.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I think we should move on to number five okay,
we'll move on.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
We'll move on to number five.
Absolutely, josh.
Number five is missouri's.
First.
It's it's called watts mill andit's gc37, located in kansas
city, missouri.
Uh, have you, josh, done thisone?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I can't believe you haven't been to kansas city many
times and I haven't done it.
And have you craig?
All right you need to starttalking about it oh, I don't
recall, josh, exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I looked and I even looked at my log, but it was
very quite it's.
It's one of those things, josh,where it's quite a little bit
of a generic log, like it didn'tstand out too much, um, but
while I was there I did readother logs as well and, uh, some
of the other logs stated thatit was a because it was, it was
a quick, you know, grab and go.
So I think it was a because itwas, it was a quick grab and go.
So I think it was located in ahistoric mill site tucked away
along a greenway in Kansas City,and there's a lot of urban area

(38:26):
around it itself as well, butit seems like the urban area has
sort of got larger as time goeson, you know, around the actual
.
So really, josh, it is just apark and grab, you know it's.
It's not like there's big hikes.
So I feel that's the reason whyit's not really memorable.
You know, for me as well, it'sjust one of those things like,

(38:46):
oh, this is the oldest.
Uh, you know, this ismissouri's first, I'll have to
grab it.
Oh, look at that, it's justthere, it is park and grab.
So, yeah, yeah, so that is myexperience with it.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
That makes this very unique, because most of these
are like significant hikes outin the middle of nowhere.
So the fact that this isbasically a parking grab in
Kansas City, missouri, makesthis very unique for being the
fifth oldest active geocache inthe United States.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
There are some other cool things.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I was going to say sorry just quickly.
In your reviews as well, whatother things you were just about
to mention are on there.
I'm getting ahead of you, butI'm getting ahead of you.
What else is there to mention?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
to mention so again and again, the.
In my research it was mentionedthe national museum of toys and
miniatures.
So there's a toy museum which Ilove.
I love some good vintage toys,so that would be really cool to
see.
See a bunch of, like oldclassic toys.
I think that would be cool.
So that is in Kansas City.
Of course there's anotherbrewing company nearby, the

(40:04):
Boulevard Brewing Company, craftBrews.
But this one, okay, are youready for the weird one?
Yeah, lila's Hair Museum InIndependence Missouri.
So it's a museum entirely.
It's a museum entirelydedicated to hair art and

(40:25):
jewelry made of human hair.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Wow, wow.
I'm going to look that up afterwe finish the podcast.
I'm going to have to look thatup because that there should be.
Remember it's only the otherweek, josh, we did that really
freaky sort of places to be andplaces to see that could have
been on that list as well.
Josh, just saying.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
It sounds interesting .
I'm really curious, I'm sureI'm sure so in our, in our
shower, okay this might be tmiokay in our shower I.
I have some really great hairart done by my wife because she
has long brown hair and she itfalls.
You know, parts of it fall outand then she makes little like
art on the side of the walls forme to enjoy, so I know a little

(41:17):
bit about hair art I'm sorry,just that really came out of
left field, it really.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Oh wow, all right, tammy, well done, keep it going.
Uh, we're moving on to numbersix.
Josh is camel's prairie, stash,gc25.
It's near priest lake in idaho.
I have not done this one, josh,have you?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I have not either.
But boy oh boy, the picturesare beautiful because this is
Idaho and this is remote in anarea that is just gorgeous.
I mean, idaho is just agorgeous state.
It is a very remote place.
You're driving on dirt roads toget there, but it is a fairly

(42:00):
short trek to the actualgeocache.
But they said the terrain canbe rough depending on the season
, um, but in the summer there'slots of mosquitoes, but in the
winter, deep snow, so you mightnot be able to get to it in the
winter.
However, yeah, but yeah, it's.

(42:21):
It's supposed to be a reallybeautiful, beautiful spot and,
uh, priest lake is just a hugelake.
If you look on the map, you'llsee it.
It's, it's a gigantic lake, butthere are some cool things
nearby.
This was the coolest thing Isaw.
Of course, this is all prettymuch you know out there.

(42:41):
So there is a place called lionhead natural water slide, and I
boy do.
I love a fun natural waterslide, but this is exactly what
you think just a giant rock.
I put a video in the show notesof kids, families, just sliding
down this gigantic rock.
Um, it's basically, yeah, big,big, giant water slide.

(43:04):
So that that was really cool inthis sort of remote area and
Craig and Craig nearby, Ibelieve, just to the North
possibly, is um, is SpokaneWashington, spokane Washington,
the home of look out Lisa fromcash advance, yes, and, and
actually I think there's also alot of movies that were filmed

(43:26):
in spokane.
But spokane washington has theworld's largest radio flyer
wagon.
It's a giant climbable redwagon in the park.
So, um, we're the world'slargest wagon, right there, not
too far from from camels prairie, stash number six, six, very,
very cool.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Okay.
So, moving on to number seven,then we have Potter's Pond.
This one is very well knownamongst the geocaching community
, gc3b, and the reason for it?
Firstly, it's near Fairview,utah.
Now, the reason this is veryunique is because, josh, it's
one of those old ones thatthere's not many of these
actually left that are listed inthat month of the year.

(44:09):
So if those people want to geta cache in every single month of
every single year, this is oneof those rare ones where I think
there's like two or three inthe entire world in that
particular month, in thatparticular year.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yes, there are four caches that are still active.
There are four caches that arestill active, that were hidden
in the month of august of 2000.
So, um, and I'll tell them.
I know what they are, I havethem memorized.
Are you ready?
It's this one, potter's pond.
And then, uh, the next one isin Georgia, which is, I'm

(44:46):
forgetting.
It's by a lake, it's near alake.
All the geocachers are justshouting at their radios right
now.
And then there's one inMichigan that you have to take a
boat to.
I'm forgetting the name of thatone.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And then there's one in Sweden as well.
So those are the four.
This is one of them.
So you have memories of thelocations more so than the
actual names or GC codes of them.
So you're halfway there.
I'll give you halfway, Josh.
I'll give you halfway.
So have you done this one, Josh?
Have you done Potter's Pond?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yes, I have have you.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
No, yes, yes, I have, have you.
No, yes, I have again.
This is one of the ones.
Oh, you have.
Yeah, okay, yeah, I have.
I had to get this one again.
You know, in 2018, on my bigtrip across, you know, I had to
feel in, this is the one I couldactually drive past and get
this one.
Um, all the others were too farout of my way in order to
obtain, so this one here isexactly right.

(45:44):
That's what I needed to get,because I was never going to
come back in the us again, again, again.
You know, to my mind, sounbeknownst to me, here I am
living and breathing acrossamerica now, but anyway, um,
what was your experience withthis one, josh?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I think it's probably the same as mine so this one
was wild because it was on thatroad trip with the 37 Germans in
a coach bus.
Now, craig, you know howwinding and narrow those roads
are to get up to this thing.

(46:16):
It's kind of in the mountains,I can't believe.
This bus driver took a coachbus all the way up there to the
parking area and as we weregoing up there it was snowing.
It was snowing too.
No, it was wild.
It was wild.
There was snow coming down.
As I found this and you'll getthe videos in the show notes I

(46:38):
actually swim.
I get down to my skivvies and Iswim at Potter's Pond.
I swim and, craig, it's snowing, it's snowing and I was the
hero for all the Germans becausethere was an island cache that
was not Potter's Pond that theywanted, and I said, okay, I want
all these Germans to like me,so I'll get down to my skivvies

(46:58):
and I'll go over in the snow, inthe cold water, and there's a
video to prove that I did it.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, sounds good.
Sounds good.
Josh just asked me this as well.
They knew it was actually coldwater once you were walking out
from the swim.
Is that the reason no?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I'm joking, it was obviously cold.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I do know.
I do know how treacherous thoseroads are because I did it in
that van.
Remember, I hired that vanitself from Escape Rental Vans
Almost the same size as my vannow and yeah, I had that one
going up there too and I waslike I was ameningaring.
I was thinking, should I,Should I?
I was halfway up thinking, oh,should I just turn around?
I'm like, oh no, I'm halfwaythere.
Now I can get to this this andI'm happy I did it as well, to

(47:43):
be honest.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
So it was really cool so this hike is not super long,
but if you remember correctly,it is almost straight up.
Yes, incline yeah the inclineof the trail is like straight up
the mountain.
Um, so I was.
I was breathing pretty hard andit was.
It was high altitude.

(48:03):
So this one, this one, was atough one, but it was, it was
totally worth it.
It's such a beautiful areaexactly.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Well, there's some thin air up there.
When you get up that sort ofaltitude too, the air thins out
slightly as well.
So but anyway, josh, what is inaround the area in your
research that you found?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
so if you're there in the summer, there's an
old-fashioned drive-in movietheater nearby, in a little town
nearby, so that's kind of cooland I don't have the name of it,
but I'm sure if you search it'scalled the Bison Drive-In
Theater.
Again, there's more museums.

(48:41):
There's a prehistoric museum,so a museum filled with dinosaur
fossils.
Now, this is an area wherethere's lots of, you know, near
Montana.
Up in that area there's lots ofdinosaur fossils that were
found here.
So it's basically just like abig dinosaur bones museum.
But I think the coolest thing.
Now, this is two-hour drivefrom Potter's Pond.

(49:03):
Now this is, you know, potter'sPond is in the middle of
nowhere thing.
Now, this is two hour drivefrom potter's pond.
Now, this is, you know,potter's pond at the middle of
nowhere.
So you know, there's.
You got to go some distance andyou have to like drive around
the the topography right, butit's a two hour drive and this
is worth it.
It's called devil's kitchen,which is on the nebo loop scenic
byway and it's it's utah's ownminiature.
This is now in utah this isutah's miniature bryce canyon

(49:26):
with these bright red rockformations.
If you look it up you'll justbe like, oh my gosh, bryce
canyon.
That's very popular, this likered rocked area canyon.
But this is like a mini versionof it.
It's called the devil's kitchen.
So everybody says that's that'syou gotta.
You gotta go there, you gottago there.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
And, josh, you did say that he's actually in utah
um and you gotta go there.
And, josh, you did say thathe's actually in utah um, and
you've written it too, which ispretty cool.
It's about two hours drive frompotter's pond, that particular
one yep, so that's really goodall right, moving on moving on
josh to yep.
Moving on to number eight, theagain.
This, the name of this isanother one geocache.
That's all it is.
That's the name.
That's the official name, andit's GC57,.

(50:05):
Gc57, near Payson, arizona.
Josh, have you done this one?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I have done this one.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Have you?
No, I have not.
No Again.
It was out of the world when mybig trip across, though.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
This one is Arizona's oldest and it is boy.
It is out in the desert.
I looked this up, I did thisone in April I believe, and it
was like not in April, craig itwas like 95 degrees, it was
really hot and I was freaked.

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I was freaked out because I wasjust you drive, basically you
can drive kind of like a.
You know, I rented a pickuptruck.
When I do rentals I very rarelyrent, but I rented a pickup
truck because I could drive asclose as I could, because
there's no trail.
Craig, you're just walking outinto the desert, no trail, and

(51:01):
there's little bushes everywhereand all you're thinking the
whole time is is is there arattlesnake underneath these
bushes?
That I was freaked, freaked outthe whole time.
It was wild, so that I wasprobably more scared at this
geocache than any geocache I'veever been to, just because I was
afraid of rattlesnakes and Josh, all I'll say is lucky, you

(51:25):
haven't been to Australia yet,so just saying oh boy Right.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
And what else did you find with Josh?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, so there's the Payson.
So Payson Arizona is a town.
There's a candle factory there.
You can make candles.
That's kind of interesting.
That's cool, that's neat.
But the big thing, this is thefun thing that I found.
I'm going to murder the name ofthis because Mogollon, mogollon

(52:02):
.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Mogollon, mogollon, mogollon.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Mogollon, mogollon, mogollon mogollon, mogollon
mogollon, mogollon, mogollon,mogollon.
So the mogollon, the mogollonridge, is there.
It's apparently like a ridgeright and they have.
They think that, uh, some boyscouts in the 1940s saw the
mogollon monster, which isarizona, arizona's version of
bigfoot.
Oh, and they said that manysightings have happened near the

(52:30):
mogolan rim, near payson.
So yeah, some boy scouts in1940s took a trip and they saw
this monster.
They said this is the quote thewas huge.
Its eyes were deep set and hardto see.
Of course he was hard to see,but they seemed expressionless.

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His face seemed pretty muchdevoid of hair, but there seemed
to be hair along the side ofhis face.
His chest, shoulders and armswere massive, especially in the
upper arms, easily upwards tosix inches in diameter, perhaps
much, much more.
I could see he was pretty hairy, but didn't observe really how
thick the body hair was.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Well, josh, just saying that kind of sounds I was
just saying before you move on.
That kind of sounds like mynude cash video that's recently
published on my channel as well.
I was more, I was more thinkingof the six inch biceps, but
then you kept on going on aboutthe uh, the.
The hair was, the uh was themain thing, was pretty hairy so

(53:34):
and thick, thick body hair.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah this, this just sounds like a really hairy man.
This just sounds like a hairyman that's all it's like out I
think they just encountered ahairy man out in the out in the
wilderness, I'm pretty surethat's all it's like I think
they just encountered a hairyman out in the out in the
wilderness.
I'm pretty sure that's all itwas, but there's a lot of yeah.
But if you want to seearizona's, you know bigfoot go
to pace in arizona there you gobut make sure you find the

(53:56):
geocache exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Well, speaking of hair and gorilla like material,
that's where number nine, josh,look at that for a segue.
Number nine is gorilla stash.
It is GC1B and it's nearMountain Home, arkansas.
Josh, have you found this one?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Greg, is this the first one that we both have not
found?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I think this is the first one, we both have not
found?
Yeah, we both have not found.
So we looked at some logs, Josh, to actually see what it's like
.
What did you see?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
It's in again.
This is this is out in themiddle of nowheresville, but
it's um near the ozarks, whichis, I've heard, a beautiful area
.
I haven't spent a lot of time inthe ozarks.
But, um, they said, once youget there you can.
It's a, it's you got to expectsome elevation.
It's a short bushwhack tolocate the hiding spot.
Um, it's tricky search amongthe natural camouflage, but uh,

(54:54):
but it's worth it.
They, they say it's worth it.
So, um, again, haven'texperienced it, so it's hard for
me to give a lot of detail, butI do know something cool.
I do know something cool aroundit and that is um about an hour
south again, mountain homearkansas is.
It's a small town.

(55:14):
You go uh hour south, themystery cave at planchard spring
cavern.
Oh craig, I love a good cavernand in this cavern they have
what is called the wall ofwonder and I put a youtube video
in the show notes.
It is gorgeous.
It is just like this giganticwall that is in front of you of

(55:37):
just beautiful, like caveformations.
Um, it was.
It's quite a, it's quite asight to see.
So that seems like that was thecoolest thing.
Nearby mountain home Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Very, very cool.
All right, Josh.
Moving on to number 10, becauseof the timeframe as well.
Last one, but definitely notleast, but it is the top 10.
It is a tie, Is it?
Tie Y'all, tie Y'all.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Terry, is it Tar-Yol, tar-yol, tar-yol?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Tar-Yol, tar-yol, tar-yol, gc18,.
It's in near Lake George inColorado.
Josh, have you found this one?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Oh, I skipped it because there was Geo Woodstock
in Denver and a lot of peoplewent out there, but I just
didn't have time for it.
But this is out, just outside.
I think it's about, uh, I think, two hours though outside of

(56:38):
Denver, colorado, but it's, it'scome on, it's Colorado, it is.
It is just beautiful out there.
So you, as you drive, you'regoing from Denver, you're just
going to see mountains uponmountains.
It's just beautiful.
Um, you can take, uh, take a.
I believe you can take a, likea Jeep, almost right up to the
geocache, but it takes a whileto get up there.
But get this.
It's a home Depot bucket.

(56:58):
That's what it's famous for.
It's those you know thoseorange Home Depot buckets.
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
So it's huge.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
It's a huge geocache.
That's cool, yeah, in abeautiful area.
I've seen pictures of this.
It's a great spot in the middleof nowheresville, that's really
cool and what's around it, josh, some of the coolest stuff.
Yeah, some of the coolest stuff,okay.
So this is, you know, know, ifyou're near there, I think

(57:28):
pike's peak is about hours awayfrom there, which is just a
beautiful you know.
You drive up pike's peak, yougotta do that, yeah, um, but if
you go two hours south, okay,there's some weird stuff here,
two weird things, and you guysgotta check out this video.
It's in the show notes the ufowatch tower, what in hoopers,
colorado, okay.

(57:49):
So this is a place.
Oh, you gotta watch the youtubevideo.
It's a lady named judy, a ladynamed judy.
It's in the middle of like, sothere's mountains all around,
but this is just like a big flatarea, and so judy built.
There's no natural I'm sorry,there's no artificial light out
there, so she can see the skyquite well, yes, and she saw

(58:12):
herself.
She said she's seen 26 UFOsightings in this location, wow.
So she built, she built a 10foot platform.
It's just a platform that youwalk up to view, to, to take a
look at the um, at the ufos, wow, and this whole place, craig,

(58:33):
this whole place is just, it'sone of those roadside
attractions.
People just leave all kinds ofrandom stuff around, um, you
know, just toys and pezcontainer.
I mean you gotta watch thisvideo.
It's so funny.
But in this video it's so funny.
This woman, judy, takes the guywho's interviewing her.
She goes do you want to watchthis video?
It's so funny.
But in this video it's so funny.
This woman, judy, takes the guywho's interviewing her.

(58:53):
She goes do you want to see themagic bush?
He's like sure, sure.
So she walks to this randombush and she goes.
Put your hand in there, handstingling, he's like uh, uh, yeah
, she goes.
You know why that is she goes.
That's why because this placeis the vortex.
It's a vortex to a paralleluniverse, and that's why that's

(59:14):
why all the aliens gravitatearound there, because it's a
vortex.
That's, oh, my gosh, this.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
This is one of those places where the treasure is got
to be judy herself yes,absolutely, and so and so that
bush I'm thinking Josh as wellthat bush isn't the vortex, that
bush is just a little bitpoisonous, that's all that is.
It gives you the tinglingsensation on your hand, like a
stinging nettle, exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
It's really funny.
That's gold.
But get this, craig, get this.
There's a cache, of coursethere's a cache.
Of course there's a cache there.
Oh, yes, it's called AlienCache GC3MFQJ.
So that'll get you right there,to Judy's UFO watchtower in
Hooper, colorado.

(59:57):
Wow, that's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.
And then, craig, there'sanother the Bishop's Castle in
Rye, colorado.
You got to watch this video.
Oh my gosh, it's a one manbuilt castle in the mountains,
completely built.
It's huge, craig, and it'scomplete.
The spire the top of the castleis a fire breathing dragon.

(01:00:20):
Oh, wow, that was built.
Get this built out of hospitalwarmer trays.
You know, when you go to thehospital and you go to the
dining room, he found a bunch ofdining room hospital things and
that's what he made the dragonout of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Wow, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
And the dragon breeze fire.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
The dragon breeze fire.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I got a video in the show notes.
It's wild, it's wild, it's wild.
So that's close by, I thinkabout an hour away from the UFO
watchtower.
So Colorado, beautiful place,see the mountains, but also see
all this, see all the otherextra bits.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Exactly, exactly.
Well, that's really cool.
So there we have it, josh thetop 10 of the oldest geocaches
located here in the good old USof A Awesome, awesome to see.
Thank you so much for doing theresearch, mate.
I do appreciate it.
Meanwhile, I will say, down herein Bamarama, josh, I did have
one of our brand new, not justlisteners but patrons, that's

(01:01:21):
right.
He came up and said to me,craig, craig, craig, I'm a brand
new patron, and there wasactually there's been two of
them, to be honest with you, butone reached out to us online.
The other one, the other onewas exactly the same, josh, I
was sitting there.
You remember the Alberta Museum, remember the museum, the one
with the cookie clock at thefront, and you know Venture Labs

(01:01:42):
galore throughout.
You know that sort of thing.
I just walked outside and I justfinished adventure lab inside.
I walked outside and there, loand behold, I've got some new
emails and I just flicked up inone and it was new patron.
I went oh, that's a new patron,that looks really cool.
And lo and behold again, guesswho?
Walks directly up to me?
And and I looked at and wentyou're a new patron.
Thank you so much for yourpatrons like your patronage.

(01:02:05):
And then she's like how did youknow?
I just got the.
I just readied them email as wespeak.
So, um, yeah, we've got acouple new patrons josh as well
but this, this one, this onereached out to us separately and
he said hey guys, I wanted todrop you a line.
After meeting craig at thepirates cove event at bamarama
on friday, I introduced myselfand mentioned I was one of the
new patrons since your last show.
I also wanted to mention toJosh to check his logs on

(01:02:29):
Groundhog Day Adventure Lab,because, josh, he was so excited
he did, he did it on GroundhogDay, so he did your Adventure
Labs on Groundhog Day itself.
He said keep up the greatcontent.
My favorite podcast Look me upif you're ever passing through
the Chicagoland area.
I think his geocaching name wasBrava E that's his surname.

(01:02:53):
That's his last name.
That's his last name.
That's his surname.
Same thing, Is it Canis Minor?
I think it's Canis Minor.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Canis Minor.
Yes, his name's Clyde Bravery.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
That's it, bravery, that's it.
I actually said it correct aswell when he was there, but
because he asked me and I saidit correctly at the time too, so
that's awesome.
So, yes, thank you, clyde, foryour patronage and thank you for
coming up and reaching out tous as well.
That's pretty cool, josh.
We did say in regards to anupcoming episode, a very, very,
very special episode to ourhearts, and that is the March

(01:03:27):
Madness.
So keep an eye out for that Ifyou want to be a part of that
patronage, josh as well.
How can people join up?

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
You can join us at patreoncom backslash treasures
of our town.
We really appreciate yoursupport.
By supporting us, you'rehelping us create better content
.
Keep it free for everyone.
And, as Craig said, roadsideAttraction March Madness is
coming up in a couple episodes,and so our patrons.
I'm just going to let the catout of the bag Ready.

(01:03:55):
Here's the deal the patrons aregoing to get to select five
entries into the RoadsideAttraction March Madness.
We're going to have to selectfive entries into the Roadside
Attraction March Madness.
We're going to have anomination process and then
we'll have a little bit of apoll and they're going to get to
enter some things that theywant to have in there.

(01:04:15):
And if you don't know whatRoadside Attraction March
Madness is, we have atournament-style sort of contest
where we put Roadsideattraction against roadside
attraction to name the bestroadside traction in america and
last year's number one, thedefending champion, which I
don't think they're going todefend because we're not gonna.
We're not gonna have any.

(01:04:36):
You know repeats, but it wasthe world's largest ball of
paint that was last year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Now, that was a great one josh, I will say I will,
and I'll keep it anonymous.
But a patron of ours as wellhas spoken to me at length in
regards to that down here inBamarama, and they believe that
the world's largest ball ofpaint was not a.
It doesn't list as a, it's moreof a destination rather than a
roadside attraction, but that'stheir opinion and that's the
reason why we've enlisted thepatrons as well, to have their

(01:05:05):
support and their input too.
So one more thing, though,before we close out, and that is
that Josh apparently ClydeBrevier said we need some merch,
we need a shirt or a jacket orsomething.
And, josh, what does the shirthave to say on it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
It has to say.
Of course they're proud oftheir town.
That's a rare thing these days.
That's a damn rare thing thesedays.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Exactly, that's exactly right.
Did you like me leading youinto that?
You didn't even know, youtotally forgot, and I led you
straight down that path.
But that's actually true aswell, that Clyde did mention
that, that he wants a shirt withthat on, and he wants a shirt
with the, the first part on thefront and then the one on the
rear being the ending of it aswell.
So there you go, um, josh.
Other than that, how else canpeople contact us if they want

(01:05:54):
to?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
feel free to reach out to us at treasures of our
town podcast at gmailcom, or youcan follow us on Facebook,
instagram, x and YouTube sothat's it for our show today.
Please, please, subscribe, rateand review on your favorite
podcast and, as always, joshyour travels always lead you to
the most unexpected and amazinghidden gems around the world.
See you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Bye everybody, bye, bye.