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A city this generous doesn’t just welcome you—it hands you a map and dares you to follow your curiosity. We land in San Diego on a points ticket, grab a budget Turo with unlimited miles, and set off to turn the weekend into a living treasure hunt built around a geocaching block party called “Signal’s Island.” From push-scootering through Balboa Park’s Spanish Revival plazas and the new Comic-Con Museum to logging Adventure Labs woven into art, gardens, and a towering zoo statue, the day unfolds with pace and purpose.

The coast ups the stakes. In La Jolla, a sunrise sea-kayak tour becomes a geology lesson as we bounce through surf, trace a fault line between limestone and harder rock, and make the call to skip churning cave mouths—then pivot to Sunny Jim Sea Cave via a hidden staircase inside a rock shop. That same spirit of play leads to a rare webcam cache on a tide-lashed pier and to a plate of ocean-fresh fish tacos at Duke’s, where the view is pure Pacific. Community fuels the journey: we swap stories at a beach bonfire welcome, run into TV producer Dave Barsky, and hear that Mike Rowe listened to our Dirty Jobs episode and loved it.

San Diego’s Navy roots open a pop-culture loop. We eat barbecue at the Kansas City Barbecue—the Top Gun bar where Goose pounded “Great Balls of Fire”—and later chase a virtual cache at the restored Top Gun House in Oceanside, complete with a Kawasaki out front for that Maverick shot. The block party itself delivers real activities: gadget caches tied to Adventure Labs, a coconut cream pie contest, path tag left-right-center, and costume flair worthy of Gilligan’s Island. Add an omakase-level meal at Sushi Ota and a CITO cleanup on Imperial Beach, and the weekend turns into a model for city adventures that blend exploration, service, and story.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:03):
With the skipper to the millionaire Okay, okay, you
got me going.

SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
Do you love to travel?
Do you love road trips?
Do you love finding hiddentreasures in towns all over the
USA?
Hi, I'm Joshua.

SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
And I'm Craig.
Welcome to Treasures of OurTown.
It's the podcast that exploresthe unique and charming towns
scattered throughout the UnitedStates.

SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Guided by our love for location-based games like
Geocaching, join us as weventure to some of the country's
most intriguing destinations,uncovering hidden gems and local
secrets along the way.

SPEAKER_04 (00:42):
On today's episode, Josh, apparently you used to,
not me, but you were stranded onSignals Island in sunny San
Diego, California.
Not necessarily a town, more ofa city, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 (00:57):
It's a city, but it's a great town as well.
I mean we can use those wordsinterchangeably.
Town, city.
It's a little bigger than a lotof the places we cover.
Although, although, Craig, wecovered Kansas City.
True.
I don't know how big Kansas Cityis.
I would say it's probably abouta million people.
Can uh San Diego proper, amillion people.

(01:17):
So it's not it's not huge.
It's actually smaller thanMinneapolis.
We're not where I'm from here.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21):
So it's funny when you say a million people because
I mean there's only 20, 24, 25million in Australia.
That's it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29):
Wow.
Yeah.
There's some perspective rightthere.
But before we get into my bucketlist location that I spent this
last weekend, and it's veryfresh in my mind.
I'm so excited to share it withthis audience because this trip
was very, very much guided bylocation-based gaming.
And we'll get to that.
But we gotta talk about ourdelays and upgrades.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52):
Oh, of course, of course.

SPEAKER_01 (01:53):
Delays and upgrades.
So, Craig, let's start with thewith the the unfortunate delays.
What do you got going on, Craig?
What's what's happening?

SPEAKER_04 (02:05):
Well, you want to start with my delay, Josh.
My delay is literally a physicaldelay.
And what I mean by that is I'vedone my lower back in again.
I haven't done it since, oh, I'mgonna say six or seven years.
And uh I woke up about five orsix days ago now, and oh, what's
that?
Oh, I can't straighten my backproperly.
Oh, I can't walk properly.
So yeah, I've had uh it's it'smore of a muscle spasm rather

(02:27):
than any chiropractic sort ofwork.
So it is actually muscle spasm.
Um, I do know the differencebecause I've had lots of back
issues in the past with my work,and um, so all I'm doing
basically now, Josh, is justtrying to settle down a little
bit, uh, take a couple of the uhmuscle relaxant tablets here and
there, and uh there you go, takeit a bit easy.

SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
Take it a bit easy.
And you what about you, mate?
What's about you?
Oh, my delays.
Yeah, uh, things are prettygood.
My only delay is that I am justso darn busy right now.
Last last week I had a longweekend, and then you know, when
you get a long weekend, you takePTO often.

(03:04):
It doesn't make your work go anyless, you just have to start
making up for the time that youwere away.
So this this week was very, verybusy, and I I got in to record
this podcast just by the skin ofmy teeth.
We were able to get it in, butman, these two weeks go by
really fast, Craig.
It's it feels like we just hadan episode, and here we are

(03:26):
again.
And I love I enjoy recordingthis podcast.
I love uh sharing our traveladventures, but it's a lot with
the YouTube channel and work,yeah, and uh and also the the
podcast as well.
So mine is just like it's kindof boring, but I'm just very,
very busy.

SPEAKER_04 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, and and and with your type of work,
Josh, as well.
It's not like the type of workwhereby, yeah, you know, you
have a day off or whatever else,and work still goes on.
No, no, no, you've got to catchup on the days you had off, too,
don't you?
So it's one of those sort ofjobs.

SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
So yes, and today, and today I spent the day with
150 fifth graders.
Oh, wow, wow.
I led I led several danceparties.
So today, today was a physicalexhaustion sort of day, not as
much as mental one, but it was agreat day.
But I am I am beat.
I'm ready to, after we're donewith this podcast, I'm ready to

(04:18):
cook myself some dinner becauseI haven't even eaten yet today.
So hopefully I can stay prettyfocused.
But that's that's my delay.
What about your upgrade, Craig?
What is your upgrade?

SPEAKER_04 (04:28):
My upgrade is that uh for the last probably a week
and a half now or two weeks, um,I've stayed at an actual
beautiful campground down herein the south of Alabama.
And I thought to myself, well,I'm either gonna drive around
every day and park in the localcracker barrel, park in the Bass
Pro, park in another crackerbarrel, park in an uh uh

(04:49):
Walmart.
Or Josh, I can pay up somemoney.
It's like 35 bucks a night.
That's all it is,$35 a night.
And I've got full um controlhere in terms of my or my
electrical my water.
They've got free bathrooms hereas well, so I can have my shower
every single day.
They've got free laundries heretoo.

(05:10):
Oh wow so yeah, so there you go.
I can get my laundry done too.
So I've been spending the days,literally, Josh, spending the
days just chilling a little bitin the van.
And as I said, lucky for methough, that uh I had I had
decided that a couple of weeksago, and uh and then my back
just went on me, and so I wasyou know, perfect.
It's like, well, I don't have tobe worried about it, I just
literally stay here anyway.
So that sounds setting down someroots, Josh, for a while.

SPEAKER_01 (05:33):
Yeah, that sounds absolutely lovely.
And you know, if you go back andlisten to our podcast, but the
Gulf Shore, what a beautifularea.
Oh, yeah.
We've actually stayed uh in akind of a it was a cabin, but it
was a very nice cabin.
But uh great places, I'm surethat campground's great, and it
sounds like it totally is worththe$35 with everything you quit.

SPEAKER_04 (05:50):
Exactly, exactly.
One more upgrade, Josh, and thatis uh last weekend I had uh
hosted a geocaching event uhhere in in Alabama as well.
And um it was gide USA.
So uh I had all I had vegemitetrials, so people had to have a
slice of vegemite on theirbread, or they they had Tim
Tams, and and uh I had then hada trivia, an Australian trivia

(06:12):
as well.
Um surprise, surprise, Josh,there was one young lady.
When I say young lady, I'mtalking maybe 10, 11, 12 years
of age, she knew almosteverything about Australia as
opposed to any of the adults.
And I was like, wow, she reallydid shock me.
She's she's really got a thingfor Australia, and I didn't even
know that.
So she was she was really cool.

SPEAKER_01 (06:31):
And that was at the two Laura's house, that's what
their caching name is, and theyhave the most incredible um fire
setup, a bonfire setup.
And you said that on the lastepisode, you said that they had
they had improved it.
What yeah, what was it like now?

SPEAKER_04 (06:48):
It's it's still the same, it's it's new and
improved, so still the samesetup, etc.
But they're they're new palletsthat are around, there's new
spools that are there as well,and stuff like that too.
So all the timbers all newaround it.
But Josh, it started to pourdown rain, and there's no covers
there.
We all fit though at the back.
Laura, she's got this uh bigpool, above ground pool area,

(07:09):
and there's a pool deck whereyou go up and walk on the pool
deck, and the pool deck's allcovered in.
We all squashed in amongst thepool deck and spent the uh
afternoon there nice and tightin amongst the pool deck.
So that was really cool.
So yeah, cool.
Yeah, big shout out to Laura forhosting, uh, help hosting as
well.
So she did a good job too.
So that's great.
That's good stuff.
My upgrade is well, you're gonnasegue.

SPEAKER_01 (07:32):
This is a great segue.
My upgrade was my whole lastweekend in San Diego, and we are
going to have a show whereCraig, you're essentially going
to be interviewing me and myexperience in sunny San Diego.
And first, before I sayanything, Craig, I'll just say
this.
It's really kind of cool.

(07:53):
People really connect ustogether now because there was
certain many people that saidwhen they saw me, they were
like, Oh, Josh, it's so great tosee you.
Where, but where's your Aussiefriend?
So we are Robin to your Batman.
Yeah, we are a duo.
I don't know, you might beBatman.
I may be Robin.

(08:14):
No, no, no.
I'm definitely not Batman.
But um, so I'll just say this,Greg.
You were missed on SignalsIsland, where we were stranded.
And it's stranded in such thesuch a the best way.
And I'm really excited to sharebecause San Diego, California is
certainly one of my bucket listlocations.
For years, I've been listeningto another geocaching podcast,

(08:35):
and I'm sure many people thatare listening to this one have
listened or heard before.
It's one of the longest runningpodcasts in the world, is
Podcacher, which is the home ofuh Sunny and Sandy Podcacher.
And uh San Diego is their home.
And when when somebody livesthere and they have a podcast,
you hear about it a lot.
Just like just like for you andI, like I live in Minneapolis,

(08:55):
so you hear about Minneapolis alot.
And so I for years I've beenlistening to Podcacher, and I've
just heard all the cool thingsabout San Diego.
And then I even told my friends,I was like, I'm going to San
Diego for the weekend.
And a lot of people are like, ohmy gosh, that is maybe the one
of the top five places I've evervisited in the world.
So there was a lot ofanticipation, a lot of

(09:17):
excitement around visitingvisiting San Diego.

SPEAKER_04 (09:20):
When it comes to California in general as well,
there's a lot of you know, uhthere's a lot of hype about LA
or um or or what do you call it,the one up top north from that
um uh Sacramento?
No, it's Sacramento, but there'suh the bridge.
What do you call it?
Uh uh San Francisco.
San Francisco, San Francisco.
Bingo.
Um there, they're the ones.
So there's a lot of talk aboutall that, uh, and that's very

(09:41):
popular.
But I find personally, Josh,that there's that's a lot.
There's a lot of traffic in LA,for instance.
There's a a lot of other thingshappening in San Diego.
I lost it again.

SPEAKER_03 (09:53):
No, the other one.
Oh, San Francisco.
San Francisco, yes, I lost itagain.

SPEAKER_04 (09:57):
See, there's a reason why it's I'm deleting it
in my head for some reason.
Um there's a lot of other issuesin San Francisco as well, but I
haven't heard any drama or anyproblems with San Diego down
south.
And so uh I'm really lookingforward to it.
And one thing I will say, Josh,is uh as you know, I follow you
on all your social medias, anduh one thing I do love is is
your Instagram uh stories, Josh.
Whenever I see you go away andyou do you do your Instagram

(10:20):
stories very well.
So when you talk about thesethings now, I'm gonna sort of
close my eyes and picture thosethings that you showed in your
Instagram stories as well.

SPEAKER_01 (10:28):
So yeah, my Instagram stories were in full
effect because I saw and did somany cool things.
I really tried to pack in asmuch as I could into those into
those four days.
And I'll just say our good oldfriend, ChatGPT, came in strong
again for the win because I'dnever been there before.

(10:50):
I didn't know a whole lot aboutit.
And so I fed it um a prompt thatsaid, okay, I'm gonna be from
San Diego from this time to thistime.
And then I plugged in all thegeocaching events I wanted to go
to.
I plugged in all the times.
I said, I have to go to thesegeocaching events and be there
for that time.
But ChatGPT, if you were me andyou were never gonna have the
opportunity to visit San Diegoagain, create me an itinerary

(11:12):
Thursday through Sunday of allthe things and all the places
and all the things I should eatand what and do.
And I didn't follow it to a T,but uh Craig, I followed it
pretty darn close and it didn'tlet me down.
It didn't let me down.
I uh I love the robots fortravel planning.

SPEAKER_04 (11:29):
Absolutely.
And we've we've done an episodeon that too, uh back in the day
as well, Josh, when it comes toyou did the same thing when you
went up north in in Minnesota aswell.
So that's really cool.
Um, but you can also use uhutilize ChatGBT now as well for
your flights.
If you want a cheap flights too,they can actually show you they
go through all the flightitineries too.
So there's another little tipthere for you.
Um and Salem, I want to fly fromum you know Minneapolis to San

(11:52):
Diego, these are the dates, andthese are the rough times I want
to get there.
Give me the cheapest price.
It'll go through all the uhthat's all the cool all the
United and and Southwest and allthe ones for you, and actually
get you get you all the listsfor you too.
So it does that as well.

SPEAKER_01 (12:05):
That's cool.
And another thing I had to do,you know, sometimes when you
have them to make the itinerary,it's kind of a narrative forum,
but then it asks you like extraprompts.
They're like, Oh, by the way,would you like me to make a
little chart or whatever?
Yeah, like a readable one orthat's an itinerary.
So it's like, yes, an itinerarythat didn't have like all the
details.
Yeah, and sure enough, I didthat.
I had to make the chart, I savedit to my camera role, and I just

(12:28):
I referenced it several times.
I was like, okay, I gotta go tothis restaurant next.
And yeah, um, so it was it was abig winner.
And speaking, speaking ofairlines, this this um trip
started with an airline.
My favorite airline, I know wehave different favorite favorite
airlines.
You are a United guy, right?
Oh I used to be.
Oh, you're fading away from NewUnited?

(12:50):
Well, maybe.
We'll just see.
Maybe.
Okay, okay.
I haven't flying for a wall.
Yeah, okay.
Well, in the past you were aUnited guy.

SPEAKER_04 (12:57):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (12:58):
Uh, I am a Delta man.
Okay, so I do have the Delta uhuh American Express card, so I
get I get I get the points.
And it feels so good, Craig,when you when you um redeem
those points for a free planeticket.
So this one, this one was a freeplane ticket.
Oh, and Delta has really donesome improvements.

(13:18):
You know, I've always talkedabout I've actually had some
complaints about the thebackseat entertainment
experience.
I've had you know, I've had somerough goes.

SPEAKER_04 (13:26):
Yeah, you had one one where it didn't work at all.
Set there raw dogging it.
Raw dogging it.

SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
Oh, don't want a raw dog flight like that.
No way.
But Delta has done some upgradesto their backseat experience.
I mean, it's the same screen,but the software is different.
So get this.
You can log on to your Delta SkyMouse account in the back of
your seat.
So you have a you start with aQR code, you you scan it, it

(13:52):
logs you in, and then on thescreen, it's like, hello Joshua.
It the back of the it knows me.
Yeah, and here's the cool thingyou watch your movie.
Okay, so let's say you'rewatching a movie and you get
through half of it.
Yeah, and you because this oftenhappens, you you get through
half of it, you have to leavethe plane.
Well, on your return flight, youyou log back into that screen
and it knows exactly where youhave left off on all your shows.

SPEAKER_04 (14:16):
That's cool.
That's cool.
Like like Netflix and uh and theGoogle and all those ones where
they show you where you're Ilike that.
That's really cool.
That's really cool.
So there's a little chat.
So you had no issues with yourbackseat this time.

SPEAKER_01 (14:28):
It was a very good backseat experience this time.
I had a oh my god, I uh thetravel gods were with me.
I had we had the whole plane wasfull.
I love what they said.
The whole plane was full, andguess what?
There was one middle seat open,and the one it was right next to
me.
Oh, and the and the lady on theI was on the aisle, the lady on
the window, we were fistbumping, we're like, oh yeah, we
did it.
We made it.
We we bonded over the fact thatwe got uh the lucky empty seat.

(14:53):
I could manspread.
Yes, yes, I know.

SPEAKER_04 (14:57):
I know you do that trick with your uh if you're in
the center center aisle, uh youdo the trick with the armrest as
well.
You can put the armrest up too.
There's a special way you didthat.
Yeah, so for sure.
Absolutely.
So you got a free flight there,Josh.
So this is on Thursday, we'retalking about.
So you got a free flight there.
You landed in San Diego, didyou?

SPEAKER_01 (15:14):
Yeah, 10:30 a.m.
Because I was like, okay, if I'mtaking the whole day off
Thursday, I'm getting into SanDiego.
And and the nice thing is myflight take took off at 9 30,
and then I got up at 10 30because the time changed.
When you go west, it's like,yes, I get two extra hours,
which is great.
So I got there at 10 30 and Ibeelined it to.

(15:35):
I don't know if we've evertalked talked about Turo on.
I'm sure we have.
I don't think we have.
Turo is the Airbnb of rentalcars, and so basically it's an
app just like anything, and youyou can find cars, people just
have their own cars that theyrent out to people.
And I I found, and it's usuallyCraig, it's like half price.

(15:56):
Yeah, so get this.
I mean, San Diego for uh fourdays was a hundred dollars.
And get this, Craig, unlimitedmiles.

SPEAKER_04 (16:10):
Oh, that's insane.

SPEAKER_01 (16:11):
And you know, for geocachers, we we're great at
abusing the unlimited miles.
Absolutely, absolutely we goeverywhere, we go everywhere.
And so when you go to theseturros, it's kind of it's just
like an Airbnb.
It's like you have to get thekey.
You have to basically geocachegeocache the key.
Yeah, because there's like alittle lockbox, so it's like
trying to figure it out and youknow, a gadget cache or

(16:33):
whatever.
And you get into the get intoit, and uh, and I had just like
this little, I think I it was aChevy Spark, which it was a it
was small.
Now I had the option to do awhat is this one of those smart
cars?
I've driven one of those smartcars.
Have you ever driven a smart carbefore?
Those little little ones.
No, I wouldn't be fine.
Well, I rented one of those onceand I felt like I'm I'm one

(16:54):
little turn away from death.
I mean, those things, it's likedriving a go-kart.
Yeah, and you drive that on thehighway, you're just like, I'm
gonna get run over.
So it was small, but it wasn'tas small as the smart car.

SPEAKER_04 (17:06):
Yeah.
And so I remember just asquickly the tour that you and I
did that time as well.
Uh first time I've ever done atour, it was with you.
And uh the actual owner drovethe car up to us, and he had
someone driving behind him,picking him up after he dropped
the car first.

SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
Sometimes they just hand you the keys, just hand you
the key.

SPEAKER_04 (17:24):
We didn't have to even geocache the keys.
Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
I like that too.
I had to actually take an Uberto uh Chuck E.
Cheese to get this one.

SPEAKER_04 (17:31):
Oh, that's all right.
Chuck East.
But it was fine.
It was fine.
So where'd you get straightafter you go into your tour?

SPEAKER_01 (17:38):
Beelined it to Balboa Park.
Now, Balboa Park is it's likeimagine Central Park for for,
but it's for San Diego.
It's a huge park, and actually,Craig, it's actually bigger than
Central Park in square miles.
Yes.
Wow.
Um, but this is a beautifulplace, and this is a place that
I heard about a lot on Podcasterbecause Sonny and Sandy spent a

(18:01):
lot of time there.
And so, you know, I before thetrip, I texted them and I was
like, hey, I'm gonna be in town.
Um, I've I've heard about BalboaPark so many times.
So that's the first thing I'mgoing to do.
And when they heard that,they're like, Josh, we're gonna
take the day off and we're gonnameet you at Balboa Park, and
we're gonna show up with umlittle push scooters, not

(18:21):
electric, not the electric, notelectric, not actually the push
but push scooters, and we're nottalking about razors, no, these
are these were fancy, they werewooden on the bot on the on the
thing that you stood on, andthey had like actual real tires
that you had to blow up.
So these weren't like MickeyMouse razors with plastic
wheels.
Yeah, these were it was like abike scooter basically.

(18:44):
And wow, he brought three ofthem, and we all afternoon we
just scootered all around BalboaPark.

SPEAKER_03 (18:49):
That would have been good.

SPEAKER_01 (18:50):
It was really cool, it was really cool.
And um, to let me just describeBalboa Park.
So if you go to San Diego, youcan't miss this is one of the
can't miss, Craig.
Yeah, um, this is actually thehome of the San Diego Zoo.
So the San Diego Zoo is actuallyin Balboa Park, so and that's
the largest zoo in the world.
So that should tell you wow,that should tell you um how big

(19:10):
Balboa, and that was just a partof it, Craig.
So this is the home of the SanDiego Zoo.
The most beautiful architecture,you walk around there or scoot
around there like I did, and youthink you're like scooting
around in like a Europeancountry.
That it's like this the style ofthe architecture is like feels I
don't know, I I might be givingfalse information, but it felt

(19:32):
very like Spain, like Spain,Spain, kind of uh kind of feel.
And also, I I heard that therewere museums there, but Craig, I
was I was not anticipating howmany museums there were.
There were over a dozen museumsin this park.

SPEAKER_04 (19:51):
And we all know Josh, you love you love your
museums.

SPEAKER_01 (19:53):
I know.
Well, it was major FOMO becauseI didn't get to go into any of
them because I didn't have time.
Oh I didn't have time.
I mean, you could spend, andhere's Craig, you could spend
one day in one of these.
It's one museums.
Yeah, we're talking about artmuseums, we're talking about
there was a performing artsbuilding there, there was a um
natural history one, so likevery similar to like the uh the
night at the museum type of youknow what it reminded me of,

(20:15):
Craig?
It reminded me of Washington, DCon the on the mall area where
all those Smithsonian ummuseums, all those free
Smithsonian museums were on thenational mall.
That's what it felt.
I was like, I was like shocked.
I was like, oh my gosh, thereare so many museums here, and I
didn't get I didn't get to gointo well, that's not true.
I got to go into one.

(20:36):
The newest one.
Get this, Greg.
The newest museum in the BellboPark is the Comic-Con Museum.
A Comic-Con?
Wow, okay.
Comic-Con Museum.
Wow.
Yeah, so if you don't know this,where have you been?
But Comic-Con is that's wherethe most famous Comic-Con is in
San Diego, right?
And so they have an actual wholemuseum that sort of represents

(20:59):
the fact that Comic-Con is in isstarted in uh yeah, San Diego.

SPEAKER_04 (21:03):
Okay, that's cool.
Yeah, and you would have lovedthat, Josh, too, because we all
know what you're like with yourpop culture.
And uh I know.

SPEAKER_01 (21:09):
Oh, just you wait.
We're gonna get to the popculture.
We're gonna get because therewas something really cool for
pop culture.
Um, so anyway, this park filledwith physical geocaches, okay,
adventure labs.
Like a lot, I did probably a lotof adventure.
I'd say probably got 20 finds ofadventure labs.
So I did probably four differentadventure labs as we were

(21:30):
scooting around.
Um Sonny, uh Sonny and Sandycreated actually an adventure
lab that was like the game clue.
All right.
So here's your here's yourgeocaching content for this.
Well, there's gonna be lots ofgeocaching content.
But this was one of those oneswhere you go to the location and
then when you answer thequestion, it opens up a video.

(21:50):
And he created like this almostlike radio show, and you have to
listen to the radio show, andthen it tells you the three the
three things that it is not,right?
So it's not not the it's not thelead pipe, it's not the this and
after you go to all five, youeliminate all of them and you
find out who who did it, wherethe what yes, and then that you

(22:12):
put in those numbers into a geochecker, and then it gives you
the final chords for the final.
So it was really, it was reallywell done, and that was a lot of
fun.

SPEAKER_04 (22:22):
And just for everyone else uh around the
world, if you're listening, uhJosh is talking about the game
they call here in America Clue.
We call it Clue.

SPEAKER_01 (22:30):
Really?

SPEAKER_04 (22:31):
Cluedo?
Cludo, it's called in Australia.
Cluedo, yeah, not Clue, Cludo.
There you go.
So lots of adventure labs, lotsof geocaching, Josh.
Um, yes, what else was in there?

SPEAKER_01 (22:41):
The botanical garden.
There was so there's free stufftoo, Craig.
The botanical garden wasamazing.
It was an open-air botanicalgarden.
There was a whole art market,like where you could buy um
wares of people that werecreating like different crafts
and arts.
Um and then it was this wastough.
I was outside the doors of theSan Diego Zoo, and I just didn't

(23:02):
have time to go in.
I guess it's quite expensive.
It's like$80 for the whole day.

SPEAKER_03 (23:06):
I mean, this is this is the biggest zoo in the world.

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
This is the San Diego Zoo.
But Craig, there was a reallycool virtual geocache on the
outside, which was like a giantstatue of a lion standing on one
foot, literally, like its twohind feet were in the air, yeah,
and then the front, one of thefront paws was in the air.
So it was standing on it almostlooked, yeah, but it almost
looked like it shouldn't be ableto stand up straight because it

(23:30):
was so it was really cool.
You had just all you had to dois get a picture there.
So not that I spent the wholeafternoon in in um Balboa Park.
You can't miss it, and I didn'teven scratch the surface, Craig.

SPEAKER_04 (23:42):
Yeah.
I mean, uh I if you're comparingit, Josh, to um to the the
Centennial Park in New York aswell, then uh you don't you
don't I don't see that manymovies or TV shows, etc., in
this Balboa Park.
I see a lot in in Central Park,New York.
Um, but you but do you thinkit'd be movie worthy like this
sort of location?
Oh yeah, like like oh yes.

SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
It's beautiful, it's beautiful.
It looks different than CentralPark.
Central Park has a lot of thosebridges and arches and stuff
like that.
And found.
But it's very similar.
Yeah, because Central Park has amuseum in it, and yeah, so it
really reminded me of CentralPark of California, basically.
So that was pretty cool.
No, so then I spent the whole, Ispent the pretty much the whole

(24:26):
day there.
Yeah, and then um I decided tostay in an area called Liberty
Station.
And I actually stayed in anAirbnb.
Now we've talked about ourAirbnbs a lot.
And I kind of because I wastraveling alone, if we you know,
when we travel together ortravel in groups, we usually get
like a house that we have thewhole place to ourselves, right?
But sometimes if I'm by myself,I don't mind like just renting a

(24:51):
room in a house, right?
Instead of like having the wholehouse myself.

SPEAKER_02 (24:55):
So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
So this time I I just rented a one room in a in a
house, but it was really nicebecause it was really separated
from the rest of the house.
I didn't see anybody else.
I didn't see any owners.
It wasn't like one of those oneswhere you have to you feel
awkward and you have to likehang out with them.

SPEAKER_04 (25:10):
Oh yeah.
You sit on their couch watchingTV.

SPEAKER_01 (25:13):
You're like, hey guys, making breakfast.
No, it wasn't like that.

SPEAKER_04 (25:16):
And pancakes for one, yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So this Liberty Station, again,the Liberty Station Park was
where the block party event was,and we'll talk about that in a
second.
But this whole area used to be anavy training center.
So the the military, the navy isreally big in San Diego, and
we're gonna talk a little bitmore about that later because it
connects to pop culture.
But this was but this was nowconverted, it was no really no

(25:40):
longer a uh naval training area,but they took a lot of these
buildings and put really coolrestaurants and like parks, and
like it was a very popular,really nice, fancy, fancy Craig,
clean area.
Uh, there was a place calledthere was a brewery, Craig.
Ah, there was a brewery, and itwas called Stone Brewery, and I

(26:03):
got some local brews.
I had a great fish and chips atStone Brewery, it was the nicest
restaurant, and that wasactually suggested to me by
ChatGPT, and it didn't let medown.
It was a big open-air patioarea, this huge patio area and
had delicious fish and chips.
And what you know, when the fishwhen you're closer to the sea,
the fish is always better.

SPEAKER_04 (26:22):
Exactly.
I'm I'm I'm one, I'm a bigperson for that, Josh.
If I can't if I can't drive tothe ocean or the body of water
within sort of a half an hour toan hour, I'm not having fish and
chips in in a restaurant.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I've got to be within itwithin an hour's drive.
So, you know, things like when Iwent up north with Michigan all
that, absolutely, becausethey've got the big lakes up
there and stuff too.

(26:43):
But down here in Alabama, ohman, the fish and the seafood
down here, don't get me startedwith that.
But anyway, uh keeping on withyours, I'm not digressing.

SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
Good.
We'll talk more about fish andwe'll talk more about seafood
because that was a realhighlight for me.
But speaking of the sea, Craig,yes, it's Friday now.
That was just Thursday.
That was my first day.
That's the day I got off theplane.
Yeah, I already did so much.
You would have been tired.
Yeah.
Well, oh, well, just that was itwas just scratching the surface.

(27:13):
So Chat GPT, I was really Iasked, I wanted to do something,
Craig.
I didn't just want to eat, Iwant to do something.
So it suggested to go to LaJolla, which was a little
community, a little beachcommunity uh north of San Diego,
not far, like a half, it wasliterally a half hour from my

(27:34):
from my Airbnb.
So went to La Jolla, which is abeach town.
I did the smartest thing I did,Craig, is I booked so I booked a
sea cave kayaking tour.
And a sea cave kayaking tour.
So there's caves because of theoceans banging into the rocks,
banging into the line limestone,after years, it started carving

(27:55):
out these caves into the side ofthe of the shore, right?
And so you can take these kayaksinside these these caves, and
that's really the only way youcan really access it.
Yeah, and so the smartest thing.
Here's your tip for you ifyou're gonna do something like
this, like you're gonna do anexcursion like this, do it, do

(28:15):
the first one, do the first oneof the day for a couple reasons.
First of all, your guides arefresh, your guides are like
they're they're ready to go,they haven't led five groups
already, no, so they're fresh.
Also, like in these ocean towns,parking is a problem, like it's
really hard to find parking.

(28:36):
But if you're showing up at7:30, 8 a.m., parking was not a
problem.
Found parking right away.
And so, Craig, I took I did seakayaking.
No, I've done a lot of kayakkayaking in the past.
I own a kayak.
Um, I live in the land of 10,000lakes.
I've done a lot of lakekayaking, but Craig, I've never
done sea kayaking, it'sdifferent.

SPEAKER_04 (28:55):
See, Josh, also when you say going early and going
first, I've noticed when itcomes to weather around the uh
around the ocean's areas, it'scalmest in the morning.
Uh it then gets picks up duringthe lunchtime and then in the
afternoon.
So you may get bigger waves inthe afternoon, you may get rain,
you may get all that sort ofstuff too.
So yeah, first thing in themorning is actually a good tip,
Josh.
Um I've seen you, I stillremember you kayaking, Josh, on

(29:18):
in Alaska.
The video in Alaska you did withthe kayaking through the uh
through the icebergs.

SPEAKER_01 (29:25):
That was kind of that was kind of sea kayaking.
I take that back, but it wasdifferent because that was like
a cove.
There were no way, there were nowaves.
This one is waves.
So the different thing about seakayaking is that once you get
out there, it's fine, but youhave to kayak through the surf,
which was a lot, actually a lotof fun.
I didn't even come uh mistake.
Okay, here's a tip mistake.

(29:46):
I didn't, I should have worn mymy uh swim trunks.
I wore pants.
Oh boy.
I know it weren't.
Well, I didn't, I you know,kayaking usually I don't fall
in, but I forgot that thisinvolved the Getting through the
surf.
Smashing through waves.
Exactly.
So I was soaked.
I was so actually.

(30:06):
If you follow my Instagram, Idon't know if you saw the
picture, but that day I put mypants out, hung it outside and
my underwear outside the windowof my car, and I drove around
with my underwear flying in thewind to dry them off.
It was work, it worked.
It was a very good strategy.

SPEAKER_04 (30:22):
Superman, you wear the underwear on the outside.

SPEAKER_01 (30:24):
Exactly.
So the sea kayaking tour wasawesome.
My guide was Desiree.
I I decided there were lots ofoutfitters in the town that I
could chose.
But you know what?
You know, the I for some reason,this is what I always do.
I always pick the OG.
You know, I always pick the onethat's been running the longest.
The longest.
Because you figure they got itdown.

(30:45):
They've been doing this for 30years.
Yeah, so I picked the originalworking on the original.
And they're still doing it.
Yeah, I did the OG.
So um if you look it up, it'llbe it's like La Jolla kayaking.
Like it was very general.
Um, that's the one I picked.

SPEAKER_04 (30:59):
Now, Josh, when you did this sea kayaking stuff as
well, because as we most of usknow who are geocaches out
there, um, especially when itcomes to erosion, waves, sea
caves, was there any earthcaches uh that you could do
that?

SPEAKER_01 (31:12):
Yes, good question.
Because this is another thingabout having a guy.
I could have rented a kayak andI could have just went out
there.

SPEAKER_03 (31:19):
Yes, of course.

SPEAKER_01 (31:20):
But the guide, they know everything about the area,
they know everything about theecology, they know a lot about
the geology.
Desiree, our guide, was like ageo nerd.
Like, and of course I told herabout geocaching, and she was
kind of geeking out about it.
She was like, What?
I was like, and then I explainedto her, there's this thing
called earth caching.
And so literally there was aright on the shore, there's a
fault line right there.

(31:41):
So there's a literally a faultline between the limestone, like
the hard stone and thelimestone.
And I and then sure enough, Ilooked on my phone, and what is
there?
There is a earth cache there,all about the fault line.
So um, so I I had Desiree take avideo of me.
I said, You won't believe this,but right now I am completing an
earth cache and I'm doing itfrom a very different vantage

(32:03):
point.
Yeah, and that is obviouslyrather than onshore.
So yeah, that was that wasreally cool.
But there was another earthcache, Craig.
But before I say that, um, therewas a problem, and I was
bumming.
I was bumming.
So Desiree, we're getting allready, we got our helmets on for
the whatever to go out there,and she goes, Well, bad news,
guys.
The lifeguard says that it istoo choppy, too wavy, it is too

(32:27):
dangerous for us to go into thecaves.

SPEAKER_04 (32:30):
Oh you could go out there, but you couldn't go
inside the cave.

SPEAKER_01 (32:37):
I got to we got to go to like close to the opening
of them, but we couldn'tactually go.
And and believe me, when you ifyou saw it, it was dangerous.
Like you could have gottenkilled in there, like it was
intense waves.
Smashed against the rocks.
Yes, exactly.
So I was bummed.
But then then I met a geocacherand I took I was explaining to
them.
And by the way, I bet thisgeocacher at a webcam.

(32:58):
I'll talk about that in asecond.
Um, because webcam, very rare.
Um, and he was telling me, Oh,Josh, it's okay.
You can go into a sea cave.
There's a one, there's a seacave you can go into, uh, but
you don't have to kayak.
It's kayak to it.
I'm like, what?
Really?
You can walk down inside it fromthe a stairway.
There's a stairway down to it.

(33:19):
Oh, and so this is a place, andI'm so glad geocachers are the
best, they know all the stuff.
I look on the map and I see, ohmy gosh, there's another earth
cache there.
And I realize it's it's thisearth cache that you can walk
walk to, and you can go to it'sa rock shop up on the top of the
hill called Sunny Jim Sea Cave.
Sunny Jim Sea.

(33:40):
You go in there, I paid$15, andthe guy gives you the rules, and
then you walk, you're goinginside.
This is so weird.
You're going inside a building,and then inside the building,
there's an entrance into thecave.
And you walk these steps all theway down, all the way down to
the shore, and then you're atthere's a platform, and now
you're inside of a sea cave, andthere's like a sea lion in

(34:00):
there, and sure enough, it's itwas an earth cache.
I had to answer a few questions.
So that was so I I did get to gointo a sea cave.

SPEAKER_04 (34:07):
Yeah, inside that's really cool.
That's really cool.
You were saying before, Josh, uhjust earlier about webcams.
You said they are super rare.
There's there's a limited amountaround the world.
There's only two webcams activein Australia, both in the same
city.

SPEAKER_00 (34:22):
I know, I know.
That's it, that's how rare theyare.

SPEAKER_04 (34:25):
They are, they really are.
Yes.
Um, I love my webcams, Josh.
I remember when you and I werein Florida and uh and we did
that webcam in Florida on yourvideo as well.
We're down there for Munzie atthe time too, which is really
cool.

SPEAKER_01 (34:36):
Um, that was the one that was in my that was the one
that was in my comic book.

SPEAKER_04 (34:40):
If you remember the one they had the fish, the fish
were hanging on the that's theone, yeah, with the shark and
everything is that's really coolon the uh on the on the shore,
on the goal on the coast itself.
The space coast, that's what itwas.
Um, but Josh, you were talkingabout webcams in in San Diego.
Yes, which one was?

SPEAKER_01 (34:55):
So here's the thing a lot of geocachers, they seek
webcams out.
They're like, I gotta find allthe webcams I can.
And that that's legit.
I'm not one of those people.
I don't webcams are okay, but Idon't seek them out.
Okay.
However, it's really fun.
This happened to us when we werein Florida, Craig.
It's really fun to look at themap and see the little pin

(35:15):
that's like a different color,and you tap on it, you're like,
oh, what is that gray pin?
Yeah, you know, it's likedifferent.
And you look, you're like, oh,oh my gosh, it's a webcam.
Right here, like so.
I like to almost be surprised bythe webcams rather than seek
them out.
And this was the exact samething.
I was just looking, I was like,oh, there's something else.
It's a gray pin.
I and clicked on it.
Sure enough, there's a webcam,and it was right on a pier.

(35:38):
And this was so it was crazy.
It was one of the best webcamsI've ever I've ever done because
it's it's the camera is facingthe ocean, okay?
And then the pier is kind oflike on the side a little bit,
and so it's what you can go onyour phone, you can find it.
But this one, the tide was sofar up that I literally had to
go almost to my waist in waterto get on the camera to get on

(36:00):
the camera.
I'm like waving my hands around,and I'm like in the water.
It was so it was very it's justcomical.

SPEAKER_04 (36:06):
Keep your phone out of the water to get the
screenshot.
Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 (36:09):
Yes, I got a TikTok of it.
I'll I'll make it, I'll createit because I I was able to also
not only get video of myself,but I also got the screenshot of
me on the yeah on it too.
But it was really funny.
It was like, and there was, ofcourse, there were other
geocachers out there trying.
I could tell they were lookingat their phones and they're
trying to find the spot.
I'm like, let me guess,geocacher.
And so they're like, how do youknow?

(36:31):
It's you dead giveaway.
It's obvious.

SPEAKER_04 (36:35):
I did I did a webcam, Josh, uh, when I was in
Wisconsin, and uh you go out thesame sort of thing, you go out
on the pier or a rock wall.

SPEAKER_01 (36:42):
Oh, yeah, I've done that one.
You've done that one as well.

SPEAKER_04 (36:43):
Yeah, you go out in this road.
But the best about that one toois that it actually moves
around.
You see, so you've got to get itso we it moves around.
And so actually, someone'smoving around and they do focus
on people along the rock wall.
So if you're there waving yourhands, you get zoomed in on in a
rock wall.
That's really good.

SPEAKER_01 (37:00):
I've done that one.
Yeah, that one's great.
That one's on Lake Michigan.
Yes, I think in Port Washington,which is just north of um
Milwaukee.
Yes, that's a great one.
That's the one.
That's so I Craig.
The morning was filled.
I did a webcam.
I went to Sunny Jim Sea Cape, Idid kayaking, and I was hungry,
Craig.

SPEAKER_03 (37:18):
So who what did I do?

SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
I consulted my friend Chat GPT.
Chat GBT, yeah, and wentdowntown La Jolla and went to a
place named called Dukes, whichis like I didn't, it was like a
it was a surf theme, surfingthemed uh restaurant.
And this is the thing, like somepeople don't love alone solo
travel.
Like I love Friday because I wasjust it was just me, myself, and

(37:41):
I solo every day.
I could do whatever I wanted, Icould eat whatever I wanted.
I didn't have to, and but thisplace, Dukes, was very popular,
and it was like you had to getreservations.
But when you roll in to arestaurant and you're just no
reservations, you go to the bar,and so I didn't uh I didn't go
to the bar, but there was a baroutside, and I sent you a

(38:02):
picture of it where I had mymargarita and the most delicious
fish tacos as I was looking outout to the Pacific Ocean.
Oh, it was just it was paradise.

SPEAKER_04 (38:14):
And when you when you solo travel, when you solo
travel too, Josh, you can eatwhat you want, when you want,
how you want.
You don't have to ask like youknow, you don't have to ask like
Minnesota boy, Minnesota boy,Minnesota boy who doesn't like
seafood at all.
Right, like you know, and you'reactually on the sea in San
Diego.
You want to eat seafood from thesea.

(38:36):
So good fish tacos, Josh.

SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
What happened after you fish tacos?
Oh my god, it was so good.
Okay, then then I headed backinto San Diego because this was
the welcome.
You know, a lot of a lot ofevents have welcome events.
Yeah, it's a communitycelebration event.
Yeah, this one was on adifferent beach, it was on ski
beach, and it was a like abonfire situation.
People were getting their youknow, their check-ins and stuff
like that.
And the theme of the block partythat was gonna happen the next

(39:00):
day was Signals Island, whichwas like Gilligan's Island.
Craig, please.
Oh, Craig, please tell me you'veseen Gilligan's Island.

SPEAKER_00 (39:09):
Of course.
The world has seen Gilligan'sIsland.
Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (39:13):
I also love Gilligan's Island as a kid.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
Yeah, so I can I can almost singit.

SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
With Gilligan, the skipper to the billionaire and
his okay.
You got me going.

SPEAKER_01 (39:31):
That's right.
That's gonna be the same.
So this was on the beach, skibeach.
It was a beach of kind of alake, and they were like where
people skied, water ski.
It was just right outside ofSeaWorld, actually.
So you could see SeaWorld in thedifferent in the distance.
There were snacks, and there wasa fire, and it was just kind of
a social, just like welcome,welcome to the island sort of
situation.

(39:51):
And the cool thing, I got mypackage, and I had a little
bucket Gilligan's hat.
It was so cute, all geocacherswith their little bucket
Gilligan hats.

SPEAKER_04 (40:01):
It was adorable.
How do you know I'm a geocacher?
You're wearing a Gilligan.
Gilligan hat.
Gilligan hat.

SPEAKER_03 (40:09):
It was adorable.

SPEAKER_04 (40:10):
Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 (40:10):
That's really cool.

SPEAKER_01 (40:11):
Okay, Craig.
And then you know who I raninto?

SPEAKER_03 (40:15):
I know who you were into.
Our dear, dear friend.

SPEAKER_01 (40:18):
He's been on that show before.
The man, the myth, the legend.
Dave Barski.
Barski, who is the exec was theexecutive producer of Dirty
Jobs.

SPEAKER_04 (40:29):
Mm-hmm.
Which is back on Netflix, butanyway.

SPEAKER_01 (40:32):
Oh my gosh, Craig.
I have to tell you something.
I don't think I told you thisyet.
No.
So I was talking to Dave Barski.
This is connected to thepodcast.
And he goes, Josh, uh, I needyou to know that Mike Rowe
listened to the Treasures or aTom podcast about dirty jobs.
Oh and he said he loved it.

SPEAKER_00 (40:52):
We got we got celebrities listening to this
podcast.

SPEAKER_03 (40:56):
Absolutely.
Isn't that fun?
Absolutely.
That is really fun.
Isn't that fun?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:00):
I was like, oh, that makes me that is like that makes
my night to know that Mike Rowelistened to our podcast.
Listened to the whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 (41:07):
That's and I will say, I will say, so did uh
Brendan Giles, the uh piano,piano artist.
I'll call him piano artist.
He he listened to uh uh treasurethere town and posted about it
too on his social media a few afew months ago now.

SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
I can't wait to see him again.
Um, but here's the thing okay,pop culture.
This city, San Diego, you knoweverybody that listens to this
podcast knows it if you listen.
You know, I love my movielocations and the movie Top Gun
and Top Gun Maverick.
Yes, both were shot in the SanDiego and San Diego area.

(41:44):
Oh, I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 (41:47):
That's really cool.

SPEAKER_01 (41:48):
So, yeah, it is really cool.
So you remember you've seen TopGun, right?
Please, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Um the original Top Gun.
You remember when Goose is inthe bar and he's playing Great
Balls of Fire?
Yes, yes, I went to that bar.
It's a Top Gun bar.
Yes, a real bar.
Dive bar, and the piano wasthere was a piano in there, and

(42:09):
of course, there was Top Gunstuff everywhere.
There were naval, they werenaval hats hanging from the
whole place.
Like, you know, like people thatwere in the Navy, like, oh, I
was on this ship, I was in thisplatoon, they hang those hats up
there.
Wow.
And um, and we sat down and wehad it's actually a barbecue
place.
So the actual name of it is theKansas City Barbecue.

(42:29):
So we had barbecue in the TopGun, in the Top Gun Bar.
Wow.
And uh I it was with not onlyDave Barski, but also Pod Team
Podcaster was there because theylived in San Diego.
Craig, get this, they've neverbeen there before.
Really?
They'd never been there before.

SPEAKER_04 (42:44):
So so that was that's really cool to actually
experience it with with a localthat hasn't actually been there
before.
That I like that too.
I really like that.

SPEAKER_01 (42:51):
And Dave Barski that's at the end.
We looked at a sign and theysold.
I'm not a big, I'm not a bigsouvenir guy, you know, because
I just you know, I just don'tlike a lot of stuff, unless it's
a magnet.
But there were little sh top gunshot glasses that said like top
gun bar on it.
I was like, oh, that's so cool.
That's so cool.
Barski.
And all of a sudden, what didBarski do?

(43:12):
Bought two of them, and we andbut you can only buy them.
You could well choose with,yeah, but it was fireball.
And so we took a fireball shotto close the night in the top
gun bar.
And I'll have a TikTok of thattoo, because I did, of course, a
lot of video.

SPEAKER_04 (43:27):
I'm sure Dave Barski would more approve of a slippery
nipple or something like thatrather than a fireball.

SPEAKER_01 (43:32):
Like fireball's not good, it's not good.
These both Dave and I were bothDave and I are like, okay, we're
we're doing it because we're inthe top gun bar.

SPEAKER_04 (43:41):
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Wow, Top Gun, that's reallycool.
That's really cool.
And Friday was awesome.
It makes sense, Josh, becauseyou know, I I still remember Top
Gun uh and Top Gun Maverick.
I'm like, you know, like it wasyesterday.
Um, I loved the movie Top Gun.
Um, and yeah, you do, but Ithought it was more up north.
I knew it was a beachy town, butdidn't know it was actually San

(44:02):
Diego.
I thought it was more sort of LAsort of area up that way.
Nope.

SPEAKER_01 (44:05):
No, San Diego, because there's a huge naval
presence still today in SanDiego.
There's like true battleship.
You can like tour oldbattleships and stuff.
It is it is a navy town.
So that's so that's the reasonwhy they filmed it there.
All right, Saturday.

SPEAKER_04 (44:22):
Saturday was the actual block party itself.

SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
I've started the skipper to okay.

SPEAKER_01 (44:32):
So yeah, the theme was Gilligan's Island, but it
was Signals Island.
And this was at the LibertyStation Park, beautiful park.
It was on the water.
And oh, if anybody is listeningthat has were was a part of
this, uh well done.
Well done.
I had so much fun, Craig.
It was one of those things, youknow, sometimes when people go

(44:53):
to a mega event um or blockparties or whatever, it's kind
of like you go there and you'relike, say hi to everybody, and
there's like then you're kind ofdone.
There's nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (45:02):
You do the circles of the vendors, you do the
circles of vendors and say hi tothem.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (45:06):
Yes.
They did so, they did so well.
I was there from 10 a.m.
to 4 p.m.
So I was there for like what isthat, six hours, six hours?
Yes, there for six hours in alittle area uh that the event
was, and I was occupied thewhole time.
Like there was so much to do.

(45:26):
There were gadget caches.
The gadget caches all connectedto adventure lab.
So you opened up the gadgetcache and you got an adventure
lab fine.
Yep.
They had contests, they had apie-eating con a coconut cream
pie eating contest that I lost.
Yeah, that I lost.
Um, there was a duck race, soyou got a duck.
They gave you it was thedetails, they gave you a little

(45:47):
duck to race in water, and youget a whole straw.
But each of the duck, each ofthe ducks had a little log book
in it, like in their butt.
Oh, yeah.
So it was they gave you a cashtoo.

SPEAKER_04 (45:56):
They gave you a cache too with your with your
with your duck.

SPEAKER_01 (45:59):
That's really cute.

SPEAKER_04 (45:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (46:00):
Um, there was an incredible photo booth.
Um, have you ever played haveyou Craig?
Have you ever played left,right, center with path tags or
left in general at all?

SPEAKER_04 (46:07):
Do you know what I've I haven't played it, but I
I saw it played for the firsttime uh at Midwest Geobash.

SPEAKER_01 (46:12):
Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 (46:13):
When I was up there this year, this year, Midwest
Geobash.
I saw them all doing it, andthey're all and they're all
heads down, they're all like inall right.
They were worse than playing youknow poker.
You know, if you play poker,poker have more fun than this,
this left, right, centerbusiness.

SPEAKER_01 (46:25):
Yeah, you can win a lot of path tags with this.
So basically it's a dice gamewhere you you have you start
with three path tags and thenyou roll the dice, and then you
either pass it to left, right,or the center, and then whoever
has it left over at the end getsthe pot.
So you can win a lot of a lot ofpath tags.
Yeah, and I played four timesand I lost every time.
So there you go.

(46:45):
But I had fun.
It was great.

SPEAKER_04 (46:47):
Which path tag you use, Josh?
Did you use your own path?

SPEAKER_01 (46:49):
Oh, a lot of them.
I had a lot of my a lot of them.
I had a lot with me.
Yeah, and my flash and my flashtag as well.
Uh, there were so many all daythere were prizes.
It was just a great, there werepeople dressed real like there
was a family that were dressedto the nine.
Oh, I so much.
Like a legit ginger, a legitskipper.
There was a woman that lookedalmost exactly like Mrs.

(47:11):
Howell.
It was really it was like yougot I just so respect when
people like fully dive into theto to like the dressing up and
stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 (47:20):
Yes, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 (47:22):
So here's my suggestion
the San Diego Geocachers andyou're looking for if you want
to do this again, I'm gonna makea promise right now on this
podcast.
Gilligan's Island, classictelevision show, right?
What is my cla favorite classictelevision show?

SPEAKER_03 (47:39):
Back to the future.

SPEAKER_01 (47:41):
Wrong.
That's a movie, Craig.
Oh, you you're gonna be like, ohyeah, of course.
You're Mayberry Man.
It's the Andy Griffith show.
Barney Fife.
Oh yeah, it's too old.
So yeah, yeah.
Well, it's too old for me, too,Craig.
It was it came out, yeah, itcame out in the 60s.
Gilligan's Island came out inthe 60s, too, by the way.

(48:02):
That's too old for you as well.
Anyway, I made a promise.
I said, if you do an AndyGriffith show theme, if you
stick with the TV thing, I willshow up and I will be Barney
Fife all day.
I'll dress like him, I'll actlike him.
And you know, Craig, you know Ican do that.

SPEAKER_04 (48:17):
I know.
I I do.
I do.
And I do know as well that youneed a good half an hour to an
hour to warm up before you getout of the car and do it as
well.
Rob and Tim both know that.
Yes.
We almost had to go, we almosthad to go to a sporting goods
store to get you a bullet.

SPEAKER_01 (48:35):
Um, yeah, the bullet's very important.
And you saw why the bullet waspouring.
Everybody asks when people seeBarney, they always ask, where's
your bullet?
Yeah, it would happen.
Yeah, yeah, it was veryimportant.
It was a great time.
So great job to and that andthat Craig, that was the reason
I was there.
You know, like this was when Ifound out that Signals Island
was in San Diego.
I was like, wait a minute, thisis my chance.

(48:57):
Yeah, this is my chance to go toSan Diego.
Yeah, so I was there, and guesswhat?
I was hungry again.
And so Dave Barski, Dave, ourold pal, he's like, Josh, I made
reservations at a sushi place.
Do you want to come along?
I was like, Ooh, sushi.
Ooh, close to the sea.
That sounds tasty.
So we go to this place, Craig.

(49:19):
And he drives up, and it's likea strip ball.
And I'm like, Well, okay, astrip ball?
Really?

SPEAKER_04 (49:25):
Strip ball sushi, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (49:27):
Yeah, and I'm like, you I was like, you I in my
brain, I'm like, you had to geta reservation for this place?
It's a strip ball.
Well, sure enough, you know it'spopular because it's not even
five o'clock, and people, Craig,were lining up outside this
place.
The place would call was calledsushi oda, like Minnesota, sushi

(49:47):
oda.
And you go in there, and we satright at the sushi bar, and
Craig, it was the most thefreshest, most amazing, really
great sushi.
Uh, and it wasn't fishy.
It wasn't fishy, and that's whatthat's what Barski told me.
He goes, if if it tastes fishy,then it's not it's not good.

(50:09):
No, um, it was like high, highquality.
And and and you know what?
I am I'm kind of a little bit ofvanilla bean.
I'm but you know what?
I have a tattoo that says justtry it.
And I was so glad, I was so gladI was there with uh Barski
because he knew he knew what wasgood, and he just kept on stuff
coming.
I was like, oh, this is reallygood.
This is this is a little bitbeyond my comfort zone, but

(50:30):
still it's really tasty.

SPEAKER_04 (50:31):
Yeah, um, yeah, all kinds like all kinds of what was
the most unusual thing that wasreally, really far beyond your
there was one that was a littlemushy, it was like some sort of
urchant or something.

SPEAKER_01 (50:43):
Like it was it was very exact.
It was maybe some of the mostexotic stuff.
I ate it.

SPEAKER_04 (50:48):
It'd be sea and row.
It'll be sea or something.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (50:51):
Yeah, I just ate it.
I didn't really ask manyquestions because I I was afraid
if I asked what it was, Iwouldn't even try it because
some of it was really exotic.

SPEAKER_04 (50:59):
Sea urchin row is like an orange, like a light
orange in color.
Um there was a really delicious,Josh.
It is absolutely delicious.

SPEAKER_01 (51:06):
Yes, there was a really, really good.
Um the first one he he startedme slow, and there was a salmon
sushi that was like the mostbeautiful slice of raw salmon.
It was so good.
I want to publicly thank Barskifor that amazing experience.
It was the freshest, mostamazing sushi I've ever had.
It'll uh it's all downhill fromhere as sushi goes for sure.

SPEAKER_04 (51:29):
That's how I that's it, especially in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01 (51:32):
Yeah, and then Dave and I went back to uh that
brewery and we had some beers atStone Brewery and uh and chatted
up and caught up.
So that was a really good time.
Thanks.
Yeah, Dave was it wasn't evenplanned, really.
I mean, I was like, hey, youwant to do this?
Want to do this?
And so um spent a lot of timewith Dave.

SPEAKER_04 (51:48):
It was a lot of a lot of fun, and then come
Sunday, the last day before youhit the city.

SPEAKER_01 (51:54):
I have to leave.

SPEAKER_04 (51:55):
You have to go home back to your work.

SPEAKER_01 (51:58):
Yeah, here's the good news, Craig.
This was another smart thing Idid.
My flight wasn't until 4 30because I was like, okay, there
might be some stuff I want todo, and I didn't want to you
know, just get on the plane at 6a.m.
and then just no.
Um, so there was a CETO.
Oh, perfect for your souvenir.

(52:20):
Yeah, cash in, trash out.
CETO season two.
So I got a souvenir for it.
It was like souvenir 402.
402.
Wow, 402.
How many do you have, Craig?
Do you uh 340 something?

SPEAKER_04 (52:34):
343.

SPEAKER_01 (52:35):
Okay, you got a ways, you got a ways to go.
Okay.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (52:40):
And this was a seito on the actual beach, Josh.
Yes, it was gorgeous.

SPEAKER_01 (52:45):
It was on Imperial Beach.
It was really close, it wassouth, it was close to the
Mexico border.
It was close to Tijuana, it waslike three miles from Tijuana.

SPEAKER_04 (52:53):
Oh, so you couldn't actually see the wall, the the
border wall or anything.
No, I couldn't see it.

SPEAKER_01 (52:57):
It was a little farther.
And it was like a it was it wasa great place for a seito
because it was kind of a dirtierbeach, like it needed some help,
help.
Yeah, and actually the water hadsigns that said it was like the
water was contaminated, likeswim at your own risk.
But there were the surf was up.
There were a ton of surfers upthere, and I was like, whoa,
they they're brave, they'regonna, they're not they're not

(53:18):
afraid to get contaminated.
Um, but it I I love watching thesurfers, Craig.
Oh my god, it's such a coolthing.
Like, if I had a if somebodycould wave a magic wand and say,
You instantly have a skill, itwould be I would I would pick
surfing, like for sports, reallyand then yeah, because it looks
like so much fun.
It does, it looks like so muchfun, but it is very difficult.

(53:41):
Or if but if it was arts, Iwould be like, You can play
piano because then I could behanging out with Brandon Giles
and starting my piano on fire.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, did the SETO, andthen I was with Dave and we did
some challenge caches.
He's a Dave is a big challengecacher.
He seeks out the challenges.

SPEAKER_04 (54:00):
Dave's one of those ones who's a webcam hound as
well.
The amount of webcams he hasunder his belt is insane.
He he hunts, he travels justpurposely for webcam sometimes.
Remember, I think he told us onwhen he was on our show as well.
He's traveled over three and ahalf, four hours out of his way
with his mother to get a webcam.

(54:21):
So that was yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 (54:24):
Yeah, he loves webcams.
And the webcam that I got theday before or on the Friday,
he's probably got it years ago.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, probably that's nothingfor him.

SPEAKER_04 (54:32):
Yeah, yeah.
And he didn't have to wait forit.

SPEAKER_01 (54:34):
Yes.
Then, Craig, I did have a littlebit more time.
Yes, because I found out when Isay top gun house, what is what
do you think that is?
What do you think the top gunhouse is?

SPEAKER_04 (54:47):
Top gun house.
Well, that'd be obviously one ofthe houses they used in the
movie.
I'm gonna say it's probablyprobably the one that uh the Tom
Cruise was in in the movie.

SPEAKER_01 (54:57):
Okay, so if you remember in the movie, remember
the scene where they're playingshirtless, they're playing
volleyball, him and Gooseplaying volleyball.
Okay, and they're just andthey're they you know they do
the cool hand, like the coolhigh five, and then on the
bottom.
Yeah, um, right after thatscene, Tom Cruise's character
Maverick has a date with thewoman, the the female Charlie.

(55:19):
Her name's Charlie, and she'slike a civilian that's an expert
in like ships or whatever.
Yeah, so he gets on hisKawasaki, right?
Yeah, and drives straight fromthe volleyball game to her house
because they have a date whereshe's gonna cook.
Well, this house is Charlie'shouse.

SPEAKER_04 (55:36):
Oh, it's Charlie's house.

SPEAKER_01 (55:38):
It's the one where he walks in, and the first thing
he says, he's like, he's late,first of all.
And then he's like, Hey, can Itake a shower?
He keeps on asking for a shower.
And she's like, No, you can'ttake a shower.
He's like, We're gonna eat.

SPEAKER_04 (55:52):
Why does that remind me of you for some reason, Josh?
And by the way, do you have ablow dryer?

SPEAKER_01 (55:56):
Yeah, yeah, can I take a shower?
And a blow dryer.
So, yeah, so this house isn'tactually an ocean side, uh,
which is about uh 45minutes-ish, more like a half
hour uh north of San Diego, andit's a beautiful, really nice,
really nice beach, a beautifulbeach community.

(56:18):
And so that the actual house wasplaced, it was on the oceanside
on the beach, but it was kind ofcoming, it was deteriorating, it
was kind of falling apart, andso they were gonna knock it
down.
Well, a local hotel bought it,yeah, lifted it off of its uh
you can see videos of this,lifted it off of it where it

(56:38):
was, and drove it down the roadand placed it between all these
hotels that they own as adestination, and then they
remodeled the whole thing andmade it, turned it into a pie
shop.

SPEAKER_04 (56:50):
Oh, nice, nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (56:53):
So you go there, Craig.
Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 (56:55):
Is this the one where I saw a photo of you,
Josh, on your Instagram?
And you may have been at thefront on something.

SPEAKER_01 (57:00):
Yes, so in the front, they put a Kawasaki in
the front.

SPEAKER_04 (57:04):
The same, the same one, the same make and model
that he was on.
Yes, same.
It was a replica.

SPEAKER_01 (57:10):
Well, everybody that was there was like, he like Tom
Cruise touched this.
I'm I'm I was like, hey, sorryto break it to you, but it's a
replica.
They're not gonna put the realactual one out in the elements.
So people, yeah, exactly.
This one doesn't even exactly.
But it was Craig, it was avirtual.
It was a virtual and it wasgreat.

(57:31):
And so the virtual get this, itwas a cool virtual.
It was like you have to get apicture of yourself on the bike,
and then you have to get theserial number of the bike.
Oh so that was actually reallyhard to find.
Yeah, but I found it.

SPEAKER_04 (57:43):
If you don't know your bike, you you don't know
your bike.

SPEAKER_01 (57:45):
I struggled.
I struggled, but I found it.
It's either on the fourth or onthe yes, it is, but I still try
because it was like black andlike engraved.
It was old bike, it was wearingoff.
Anyway.
It was a great, yeah.
I went all the way up there justto sit on that bike and do that
virtual.
Um there'll be a TikTok of it.

(58:06):
I got a lot of video of it.
It's it was quite I'm so glad Idid it.

SPEAKER_04 (58:10):
Question for you then, Josh.
Will that one make a uh comebackin March next year for our
roadside attractions episode?
Oh, because I'll tell you now,Josh, my trips, my trip that
I've been doing in the last fewmonths, I have been looking,
actively looking for roadsideattractions that uh I can sort
of put in.

SPEAKER_01 (58:30):
See that's smart.
Especially since I've since Iwon last year, you know.

SPEAKER_04 (58:35):
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm telling now.

SPEAKER_01 (58:38):
I think I won this year.

SPEAKER_04 (58:39):
Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_01 (58:40):
Was the ball of paint mine?
Yeah, I think it was.

SPEAKER_04 (58:42):
Yeah, yeah.
We know, we know you won both sofar.
But I won over the patrons.

SPEAKER_01 (58:48):
This is a diversion.
Sorry.
We're about to uh we're aboutdone, people.
Okay, don't worry, we're gonnabe finished here in a second.
The trip's almost over.

SPEAKER_04 (58:55):
Josh is gonna rabbit hole.
Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 (58:57):
Yeah, here's a rabbit hole.
Um, you know, I went to the ballof paint.
Did I tell you?
I don't think I've said it onthe podcast.
I told the guy, hey, you youryour your paintball won our very
first roadside attraction marchmadness.
And I had to really explain it.
The guy's like almost 80 yearsold, or maybe over 80 years old.
And he got so excited, Craig.
And I said, You know what?
We thought about sending youlike a certificate or whatever.

(59:20):
He goes, Would you do that?
He's like, Would you do that?
And so, what did we do, Craig?
I don't think we told the peoplewe sent him that you that that
the ball of paint won the veryfirst Treasury Talent podcast.
And he was, I'm sure he was veryexcited because he was like,
What he was like, really?
He goes, and he this is what hesaid.
He this is so sad, Craig.
He goes, Everybody always stilltells me they're gonna send me

(59:40):
something, but they never do.

SPEAKER_04 (59:42):
And so when I heard that, I was like, You have to,
you have to.

SPEAKER_01 (59:46):
And the certificate was like splattered with paint.

SPEAKER_04 (59:49):
Yes, yes.
I saw it.
So he should meet a photo andsaid, Is this all right?
That's perfect.
That's perfect.
That was great.
That was really good.

SPEAKER_01 (59:54):
So the Top Gun House, I went up there just for
that.
And um, and then I had a pizza.
Pizza at a place called Odie's,which was really great pizza.
And uh the beer sat up at thebar again by myself, by my
lonesome.
Of course, I ordered I had toorder a beer that was brewed in
that city.
Because that's what that's whatwe do.
That's what we do.

(01:00:15):
And then I made my way south tothe airport and I flew away.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:19):
Flew back.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:20):
What a trip.
Oh my gosh, we're at we're rightat one hour.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:23):
Yeah.
Well, Josh, you were sayingbefore about roadside
attractions and stuff as well.
And our patrons now or thisyear, they had a say in in uh
what was going to be one of ourroadside attractions as well.
And uh so if you want to becomea patron to before March of next
year to have your say, how canwe do it, Josh?
How can they be fine?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:41):
Yeah, if you've been enjoying our podcast, we really
appreciate your support.
By supporting us, you help uscreate even better content,
keeping it free for everyone.
We don't have any commercials,but Top Gun Pie House, if you're
listening.
That was the first thing thatcame.
Uh uh Sushioda, if you'relistening.
We just promoted you.

(01:01:02):
Um we don't have any and wedon't have any sponsors because
we don't need them, because thispodcast is completely supported
by listeners.
So go to patreon.com backslashtreasures of our town, and that
is where you can support us.
There are different levels, andyou will get golden nuggets that
only our patrons get to see andlisten to.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:22):
Exactly, Josh.
But if you're one of the thebasic out there, the public, the
general public, not the patrons,how can they contact us, Josh?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:30):
Yes, for all the basic people.
Uh feel free to reach out to usat treasures of our townpodcast
at gmail.com, or you can followus on Facebook, Instagram,
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Just simply search Treasures ofour town and Google, and we will
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SPEAKER_04 (01:01:46):
We certainly will.
So that's it for our show today.
Please subscribe, rate, andreview on your favorite
podcasting app.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:51):
And as always, Josh.
Your travels always lead you tothe most unexpected and amazing
hidden gems like Tom Cruise'sKawasaki bike.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:01):
See everybody.
Talk to me, goose.
And before we go, Josh, do youthink Tom Cruise is proud of
that bike?
Oh yeah, he's still proud ofthat bike.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:11):
I would be proud.
Yeah, he's proud of his talenttoo.
He's proud of San Diego.
Thank you.
Everybody's got a good thing.