Traveler Spotlight - TikTok Creator Emmaline Childs

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Join us as we celebrate Josh's 47th birthday with our special guest, Emmaline Childs, a dynamic TikToker and Instagram personality from Minnesota. Emmaline captivates us with her vibrant stories and reflections on travel, from the adrenaline rush of a Minnesota Lynx basketball game to the serene beauty of a fall-themed Munzee event. We chat about our shared enthusiasm for location-based games and travel, all while enjoying a unique mix of real and digital birthday cake.

Our conversation takes us on a whirlwind tour of travel plans and destinations, starting with Jeremy Clarkson's humorous leap from Top Gear to Diddly Squat Farm. We ponder our own itinerary with stops at iconic London sites and the world's oldest whiskey distillery in Northern Ireland. The age-old debate about whether to include Stonehenge adds a dose of humour to our travel plans. Emmaline’s upcoming journey to Australia and New Zealand promises more exciting adventures, including New Year's Eve in Sydney Harbour and snorkelling in the Great Barrier Reef.

Reflecting on the impact of social media, we celebrate reaching a quarter of a million followers and the fascinating path to social media success. Emmaline shares her strategies for balancing work and travel, emphasising the importance of authenticity in a world often filtered through social media. From the hidden charms of cities like Madison to the glitz of Las Vegas, our conversation traverses both the expected and the unexpected, offering a genuine look at the joys and challenges of travel content creation. Whether you're looking for travel inspiration or insights into the behind-the-scenes of social media, this episode has something for everyone.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
G'day, g'day, g'day, g'day.
What a way to start a show.
This is Craig here.
This is current Craig as ofOctober 28th in 2024.
Yes, today is when we releaseit.
And why am I saying this?
By you, by myself, with no Josh?
Why?
Because it's Josh's birthdaytoday.
That's right.

(00:21):
Today, the 28th of October 2024, is Josh's 47th birthday.
So, on social media, if you'refriends with Josh on social
media, make sure you message hima big happy birthday, wish him
a good happy 50th I mean 47thbirthday, and we'll go from
there Now.
Now let's go back to the show.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Do you love to travel ?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you love road trips?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Do you love finding hidden treasures in towns all
over the USA?
Hi, I'm Joshua.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
And I'm Craig.
Welcome to Treasures of OurTown.
It's a podcast that exploresunique and charming towns
scattered throughout the UnitedStates.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Guided by our love for location-based games like
geocaching, join us as weventure into some of the
country's most intriguingdestinations, uncovering hidden
gems and local secrets along theway.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
And on today's episode, josh, we've got a very
special guest.
We're going to talk about howtravel has to shape lives.
Josh, Travel to shape lives.
Yes, and she's your friend.
What's her name exactly?
I can't name is emmeline, it isemmeline childs.
I was gonna say emmeline,emmeline.
I wasn't sure so I thought I'dlet it to you.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
So there you go emmeline child's gonna join us,
there you go yes, she is atiktoker instagram personality
here in minnesota and we'reexcited to talk to her, and I
know she travels a lot, sothat's why I decided to invite
her on the show and I'm reallylooking forward to chatting with
her.
She's always awesome to talk to.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, and she's got that Minnesota nice voice
too, Exactly Meanwhile, Josh,what have you been up to mate
Ups or downs first, which isyour choice, your choice.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
What have you been up to?
Mate Ups or downs first, whichis your choice?
Your choice, well, theMinnesota Lynx basketball team.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Last episode remember , remember, last episode.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I was talking about the Lynx and how exciting it was
.
Well, reese and I recently wentto the first game of the finals
we're talking about the WNBApeople, we're talking sports
right now and we went and thelinks were doing amazing.
They were up by 15 points andthen it was tied at the end of
the game and at the last secondthe liberty hit a very, very

(02:38):
long three-point shot and justsucked the air out of the arena
and they lost.
So, as of the recording of thispodcast, the Minnesota Lynx are
now down one game to two games,and if the Liberty win tonight
it's happening tonight as werecord this.
When you listen to this it'sall going to be over.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
They already know that it's either going to be a
delay or an upgrade.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, they know the results already.
I am know the results already.
I am in the past.
I am in the past, they're inthe future.
But tonight, if they losetonight, it's over.
But if they win tonight, it'stied.
But then they go back to newyork which is going to be tough,
tough to win on the road.
So it's not looking good, butreese and I had a great time in
the target center cheering onour minnesota links, so that's
our.
That's my delay.

(03:30):
I was really bummed and.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
But that's what it's all about, though.
It's.
It's that that special timethat you get you and reese
together.
You know the cheering then, thesighing and the crying.
You know it's.
It's the emotion, the rollercoaster.
You're there for each other asthe emotional roller coaster, so
that.
So that could be a positive.
That could be an upgrade too.
Josh, just saying yeah that'strue, yeah yeah, absolutely.
So turn that frown upside down,mister.
I will, I will.

(03:53):
What is your upgrade?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
if that's the case, then Well, I don't have anything
specific, and you know what.
We don't talk about the weatheron this podcast.
No, we don't talk about theweather on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, we don't talk about the weather unless it's
travel specific.
Unless it's travel specificthat's true.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, that's true, but I'll just say it's the most
wonderful time of the year uh,it's october, the we are hitting
peak leave season it'sbeautiful, it's autumn, it's
autumn, fall, and I'm lookingout my window, I'm seeing all
the colors, and today it'sautumn, it's autumn, fall, and
I'm looking out my window, I'mseeing all the colors, and today
it was 77 degrees Fahrenheit.

(04:28):
We don't talk about the weather.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's nice, that's warm, that is warm for this time
of year, that's a good upgrade,though.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
You think about it, you got the beautiful colors.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's going to be a beautiful weekend.
We're going to do a munzeeevent again.
Yes, tomorrow we have threemunzee munzee events in three
weeks here locally.
Wow.
And guess what, greg, guesswhat?
Tomorrow or not tomorrow, I'msorry.
Next weekend hosting my firstever local munzee, that's right,
hosting one.
Yeah, that's right a spookywalk in the woods and what's it

(05:00):
for, josh?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
is it for for hang on your birthday?
Yes, yeah, my birthday is close.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
So if you play Munzee , you know when you capture the
pins you get cake.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
You get cake.
Well, like it's perfect, what?
A perfect thing, we'll probablyhave some real cake and then
we'll get some digital cake andit'll be a good time.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So yeah, that's coming up next weekend.
Most importantly, those whoattend your Munzee event and
they cap the actual event badgeitself, they actually get a very
unique and one-off badge too,that you showed me the other day
.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
The badges are a nice little add-on.
So even the people that livefar away and they try to collect
all the badges, they're notgoing to get this badge unless I
show up at my birthday birthdayparty and we can't even say.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
We can't even say you know?
Uh, you know, make sure you getthere, because this, this
episode is going to go out afteryour birthday.
This is true.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
So my birthday, my birthday has already happened
you guys in the future.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right now, you are now experiencing a world where
Josh is 47 years old 47?
Wow 47.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
47.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
50 is looming.
50 is looming 50 is closer.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
For me, mate, it's only next year.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Wow, we've got to do something special.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
We've got to do something special.
We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
But meanwhile something specialfor me, and that is it's
actually my delay and that isI'm trying to sell my car.
You know, we've heard aboutthis the entire time and me
talking about my car on thispodcast is like other podcasts
talking about the weather by thesounds of it.
But anyway, that's what itfeels like to me.
You know what I mean.

(06:40):
But no, I've had enough.
I came back from my last tripand things were happening again.
I went back to the mechanic.
He did fix it again, which isgood.
It was another issue, anothersensor problem.
So he replaced yet anothersensor itself as well, did the
oil change and all that too.
But again it's just another 500bucks.
I'm like, how much money am Igoing to sink into this thing?

(07:01):
Yeah, meanwhile it's decked outas a full camper.
You've seen it.
You know it's got the solar onthe roof and everything.
So I'm trying to sell my carnow I put it on like a, like
carsalescom, whatever.
Whatever the the car sales oneis already josh.
Within 24 hours I've had fourattempted scams and these scams
are very clever.
They very.
They talk to you as humanbeings like they are human scams

(07:22):
and they're talking to you ashumans, saying you know, oh,
what, what?
Anything wrong with the car, uh?
And I say no, oh, when can Icome and see it?
They even know like I'm located, where I'm located, which town
I'm in yeah so they say that tothem.
So they say to me like, oh, I'mthree towns and they give me the
town name that they're, thatthey're supposedly from.
Um, oh, I can pop over there.
It's always I'll pop overtomorrow, like I'll come over

(07:43):
tomorrow, right, um, right, doyou take cash or or check any
any issues with the car?
I'm like, no, no issues withthe car.
Um, not now, anyway.
And uh, and then they alwayssay, um, you know, oh, I'll be
there tomorrow, etc.
Oh, by the way, before I come,this is where they get you.
So, before I come, um, do youhave a?
Um, a vehicle check history?

(08:05):
And I'm like, yeah, I've got aCarfax.
Oh, I don't trust those Carfaxones.
Try this link for the vehiclehistory.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
You see, I'm like yeah, no, so that's the scam.
But this is after I'm talkingback and forth, josh, 20 plus
messages back and forth beforethey get to that scam part.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You're so persistent and so persistent and I've had
four so far now, already in thespace of 24 hours anyway so they
they try to take you to thatlink and then what they're
trying to get your you to putyour information in.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Basically, yes, so the links themselves are like uh
, vehiclechecksnet or you knowvehiclechecksus.
You know I mean somethingus,you know what I mean, something
like that.
And what you do is you don'thave to click that link.
But if you even go onto thewebsite, the website's a
fraudulent website.
So it'll say you know, offer afull vehicle check for $2 or $3
for a full vehicle check, enteryour bank details here or your

(08:58):
credit card details here.
So that's what they do, that'swhat they do.
They try and get that way then,so they don't actually need to
click the link itself.
Um, but they do.
They're very smart.
See, people don't click links.
Oh my gosh, but yeah wow yeah,and the websites look kind of
legit, until you go onto redditor other places like that and do

(09:21):
some research and people say,oh, if you'd have a, have a deep
dive into it.
Yeah, the website's fromlithuania.
So, yeah, right, exactly right,oh boy, anyway, that's my delay
, that's no, I mean, that'slater.
We're talking about my, myupgrade.
My upgrade is much, much better, and that is this is this is a
really a really good upgrade.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
The reason why?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
for real, and it is a for real upgrade too.
I'll tell you.
You don't even know this partyet, and that is that, uh, when
this podcast goes out, I'm noteven in the us, I'm still.
You're gone, I'm gone, I'm inthe uk.
I fly out tomorrow from the,from the us to the uk, and I'm
doing the full uk united kingdomtrip.
Not just england, not justwales, ireland, northern ireland

(10:04):
, scotland, but all five, allfive in the full trip.
So there you go, uk plusnorthern ireland.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
So, because northern ireland's not in the uk, so
there you go is there one thingin particular you're looking
forward to most on the trip thatyou're about to do?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
geez, not most.
Nothing I'm looking forward to.
That's most, but I have littlepieces all the way through the
trip.
So, for instance, you know justlittle things like there's that
special flat loop we're talkingabout Munzee now.
There's a special flat loo thatthere's only one in the world
and it's located on the TimesBridge as well.
What do you call it?
Tower?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Bridge.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, so there's one and only flat loose.
I'll be capturing that.
Speaking of Lou and Rob, I'mcatching up with those two as
well.
Apparently, we're going to goin and see the Black Cat Pub or
something, somewhere whereTaylor, what's her name?
Swift, all the Swifties knowthe Black Cat Pub because she
sings about the Black Cat Pub.
So we're going to go into thisBlack Cat Pub have a beer there.
Of course, my untapped is goingto be going off.

(11:11):
I'll just let you know, ofcourse.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Um, I want to go and see the diddly squat farm.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Have you heard that?
Probably no.
What is that?
So have you heard of jeremyclarkson?
Jeremy clarkson, you haven'theard of what's wrong with you
americans.
Jeremy clarkson is a worldknown for, a celebrity, world
known celebrity.
Well, I thought was well known,except for the us.
Um, he used to host top gear.
He's one of the hosts of topgear, the motorsport or top gear
.
Yes, he was the tall the tallguy in top gear.

(11:34):
Well, after he finished topgear, he bought a farm in the
middle of uh of england and hehas been and doing his antics
and stuff on the farm.
And so now it's the diddlysquat is his farm and he's got a
full like it's a four-partseries on on netflix.
It is brilliant, it's funny,it's humorous, like you know,
but at the same time you can seethe, you see the, the big, the

(11:57):
perils that uh, the farmersactually go through as well,
because he goes through thoseperils himself too.
So so yeah, yeah, so they'vegot a farm shop there, so we'll
be driving past and I'll popinto the Diddly Squat Farm Shop.
So I'll be looking forward tothat.
I'll be looking forward tobeing on Abbey Road and getting
the webcam on Abbey Road.
That will be very cool.
Yeah, see things like that.
So they're the main things.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I think it's funny that the first thing you
mentioned is not like big Ben,it's not like, it's not like any
of that.
Your first thing you mentionedis to to click on your phone to
collect a digital item.
That was the first thing youmentioned.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean like forget.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Forget you, big Ben, who cares?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I'm clicking on a special virtual loo I mean, I
will say, I will say, josh, thatis for the first two days.
Uh, we'll be having, uh, one ofthose get hop on, hop off buses
, like on um, you know, a cardsthing where you can hop on, hop
off the bus, the tourist bus,and then the double deck of
buses with the open roof.
So we'll be doing that for thefirst two days, solid.
And so we'll be doing the hopon, hop off.

(13:05):
So we'll be seeing the big bend, we'll be seeing, you know, the
london.
I will be seeing all that sortof stuff too.
So that's cool, that's, that'sall part and parcel and I'm I'm
understanding of that.
But you said, what's what'sspecial to me?
It's, yeah, it's more, not justthose.
Yeah, see, I'm more unique thanother people, josh, that's what
it is, I guess.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
So Will you be visiting the first geocache ever
placed in Europe?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I don't know, I haven't researched that.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I have to do that after this episode, so it's
south.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's south of Dublin.
Okay, when you get into Ireland, you just got to go south of
Dublin.
It's right along the sea.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, Well then, that's a big possibility.
It's an ammo can that's a bigpossibility?
I mean, come on, Craig yeahyeah, yeah, yeah, come on.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
You're going to regret if you don't find
Europe's first, oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
If it's Europe's first 100% Europe, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
It's kind of like Mingo for the US, US Mingo.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, exactly.
But one more thing, thing thatI am really looking forward to,
and this will actually you'llenjoy this as well, and that is
in northern ireland, the top ofnorthern ireland.
Uh, we are staying at andvisiting the world's oldest

(14:24):
whiskey distillery, 400 plusyears old.
This whiskey distillery wowyeah, it is old, like, really
super old, like before even theUS was even around, right it's
funny.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, it's funny, Craig, because we visited what?
The sixth oldest distillery inthe United States, and that was
not 400 years ago, no, no.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Exactly exactly, and we're staying right next door as
well, in the actual Airbnb.
Josh, you'll be proud of that,and I'll make sure it's got a
hairdryer for you.
I'll send you a photo.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh, it'll happen, I'm sure.
One more question.
One more question because I'mjust thinking, if I was going on
this trip, what I'd want to do?
Are you visiting Stonehenge?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's a good question.
I don't know that yet.
I'll have to have a a look.
I should have spoken to you aweek ago.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'll tell you now clearly, clearly, you are not in
charge of this itinerary.
No, no, well, I, maybe I was,and I was not doing a good job
of it, so I don't even know.
I, I'm kind of ignorant.
This is a travel podcast aboutthe us.
I don't even know wherestonehenge is, I believe it's.
It's.
I mean, okay, this isembarrassing.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It's in england, right that's um, you know what
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna have to look now aswe speak.
So you keep speaking about youruh, your inability.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
People are listening right now you're like josh, are
you kidding me?
You don't know what countrystonehenge is in.
I'm pretty sure it's in the uk.
And and the question is craigis, if you visit Stonehenge, is
it going to be as awesome asBamahenge?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Okay, stonehenge is in England.
Okay, but Thank goodness, butwe won't be going anywhere near
it.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yes, yes, that's down south, you see.
So Stonehenge is sort ofsouthwest of London itself,
where we're going um northwestdirectly and heading up through
birmingham um and then going towales from there as well.
So, whereas stonehenge is onthe uh, the southern side, so
well, greg, you know what youyou were.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
You were looking at your computer when I said it,
but I'm sure it's okay becauseyou've seen bamahenge this is
true.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
This is true, this is true.
Bama Hinge was great, like youknow, it was homemade.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It was a replica.
I think it was a replica.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And that made sounds when you banged on it too,
because it sounded like it wasfiberglass.
They were hollow.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yes, the rocks were hollow.
That was a little different,but they looked.
I mean, it looked the same tome.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about when we
visited the gulf shores.
There is a special bama hinge,exactly exactly exactly.
So there you go all right, allright.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
We've talked about our, our delays and our upgrades
, but it is now time to bring inmy friend and your soon-to-be
friend, em Emmaline Childs.
Welcome, emmaline.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Thank you, emmaline, good to see you.
Good to see you.
I've only ever seen you, as Isaid before, on your TikTok, and
you look exactly the same asyou do on your TikTok.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Truly the ultimate compliment.
I can't say that, yeah, it'sthe best compliment.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm excited to talk to you because we have something
to celebrate.
It's kind of weird for acreator to talk about their own
milestones sometimes, I think,so I just want to congratulate
you.
You hit a quarter of a millionfollowers.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's insane.
I cannot believe it.
It's insane, it's crazy andhumbling.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
it's it's amazing and I will edit this and put a
little uh screen thing over toplittle woo.
So there you go.
So I'll do that too, and I keepthis in as well so I should
first say how I met emma line.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
It was first on tiktok.
You were like during like thepandemic or like shortly like
the parts after it, you were.
You kept on coming up on my foryou page when you were like
doing basically you were doinglives and I remember I was in
one of your lives and I was, andI discovered that you, you live
like fairly close to me and I'mlike, oh my gosh, you live

(18:27):
fairly close to me.
And then, of course, like thelike the geo nerd I am, I was
like I was like, hey, uh, haveyou ever heard of geocaching?
And at that time you it?
you know you're like, oh yeah,you know how, like when the the
chat goes by very fast andyou're no, I think I've heard of

(18:47):
it.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Um, well, and I think that's the crazy thing about
the internet, right Is?
I think I because I'm not inthe geocaching world, or I
wasn't now I am, but because Iwasn't uh, you had not crossed
over my FYP or my my algorithmhad not brought you to me.
However, we were both nominatedfor you know outstanding social

(19:11):
media personality here in thetwin cities and that's where I
got to know your page and I dovein.
I was like hold on this, a lotof people like this guy.
I need to know who this guy is.
And that's that's when I doveand I was like wait, geocaching
sounds like a lot of fun, likelet's talk, which is kind of yes
, now I know where I was gonnasay josh.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Now I know where I've seen it before and that is you
asked all your friends andfamily to vote for you and I
voted for you.
But I I emily emeline, I'll saythis as well I did check out
all the competition first andmake sure that I voted for the
right person.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
So, josh I don't think actually voted for you,
but yeah, so so we met.
We met based on the fact thatwe were direct competition with
each other and and it's kind ofamazing that we are, would we
call it frenemies?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
yeah, we're.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't think we're frenemies anymore.
We maybe were frenemies, butnow we're like real.
Now we're real friends becauseevery once in a while I think
like a couple times over thepast couple years we've hung out
together at the Minnesota statefair.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, absolutely, and we like ran into each other,
like at a restaurant one day,like we really are in the same
community.
It's pretty great.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Oh, and Emma line came to my hunt.
Speaking of milestone, she cameto my a hundred K, a hundred K
YouTube subscriber party, theone that Craig the one that,
craig, that, the one that youmissed, craig, craig.
So, emeline, craig flew all theway from new jersey to surprise
me and he ended up coming thewrong day.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
A day later, and it was.
It was actually josh's wife's,tammy's fault, to be honest with
you, because I said, is thisthe date?
And she's like, yep, yep, andshe's, she picked me up from the
airport and everything so, butthere was the day after and he
was already at work, you know,and so I, I hung around with his
wife and his daughter for alittle while, you know, doing
some cashing and stuff like thattoo, and then all of a sudden
he pops his head around fromfrom coming in the door from

(21:01):
work and he's like what are youdoing here that, honestly, that
was so fun, like what anachievement.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I I think that was so fun, like, what an achievement.
I think YouTube's not like aneasy place to get that many
followers and so to achieve that, it was so fun to be there and
celebrate with you, thank you,thank you.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
It did take 13 plus years.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
It does in the long form.
It's harder in the long formthan what is in the short form,
but apparently.
But we're going to talk aboutthat as welleline as well, and
talk about your travels.
We're going to talk about, youknow, your social media content,
what you do, how you do it andstuff like too.
So where can people see you interms of your social media is?
Are you just tiktok at themoment?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
no, I am on tiktok.
That is where I have thelargest following.
However, you can also find meon instagram.
I have approximately 20followers on facebook, if you
want to try to find it there,and I am desperately trying to
grow on youtube.
They did recently, uh, maketheir shorts so that it's up to
three minutes, which I think isgoing to be a huge help for me

(22:06):
as I try to do better and havelonger form content.
This will help in the interim,but you can find me most places.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah.
So, Emma line for those whohave not seen your content.
Could you, could you describe,describe what, what your, what
your content is?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah.
So the true answer is it's alittle bit all over the place,
but I always say that I havethree buckets.
I try to make you laugh, youknow, with varying levels of
success.
I try to be relatable so thatyou know that there's someone
else out there going throughwhat you're going through and I
try to inspire you to dosomething great.
So I love giving back to thecommunity and, you know, going

(22:45):
out and meeting people and doingthings, and I like to bring all
of that together in a reallylovely soup going out and
meeting people and doing things,and I like to bring all of that
together in a really lovelysoup.
It's a good soup and you knowI've been really fortunate to
bring together I do a lot ofMidwest content, a lot of
corporate I work in we could getto this, but I work in
corporate, in the corporateworld, and so I just I like to
create content where I feel likeother people feel like they get

(23:08):
it.
They've been there and they canlaugh along with me.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes, you do a great job.
You do a great job making, likejust the everyday stuff you
know, super relatable.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Thank you and see how I feel as well, and that is
especially with a short formcontent TikTok, instagram Reels
and YouTube Shorts.
They're all exactly the same inmy mind and that is you keep
people's interest by beingauthentically you, but at the
same time, you've got to behappy about life.
You know what I mean.
You've got to inspire people,have that laugh, have that smile

(23:39):
, have that interaction.
You know people want thatdopamine hit.
They want that feeling of youknow.
Oh, look, you know thisperson's happy.
They're going to make me happyby watching them be happy.
And so if you do that naturally, and that's your authentic self
and that's perfect and that'swhat you are basically.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, thank you, it's fun and I have to admit, I
always worry because I do a lotof very sarcastic content where
I rant or I go on aboutsomething, and it's always with
a sarcastic undertone.
But I'm always like, oh gosh,are people going to think that
I'm being serious?
And you know, I've asked peoplelike, am I, is it too much?
And they're like no, we alwaysknow that you're joking, and so
it's fun to be able to vent inthat way and, thankfully, be

(24:23):
able to kind of laugh along withother people going through it
too.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
There's so many times I watch your videos and I'm
like me too.
That same thing happened.
It actually happened this week.
I got an iPhone 16 pro and I ama Otterbox user.
So I'm from Minnesota.
Where do I go?
I go to the Target website.
I buy the Otterbox on theTarget website and then all of a
sudden, of course, the Target'slike we don't actually have
that one at this store Go to adifferent store and Craig, she

(24:52):
made a TikTok of that exactsituation to the same case the
same Otterbot case, I'm assuming.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I swear like the algorithms are so good, they
read our minds.
They know no kidding.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
And that's what I say as well Like the algorithms are
so good.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
They read our minds, they know, they know no kidding,
oh, yeah, oh yeah, and that'swhat I say as well, and this is
where I defend social media, andthat is the algorithms read you
because of the way you interactwith the actual app itself.
So people think that it's somesort of mind reading trick.
It's, you know, oh, and it'sgoing to show you these bad
things here and there, and thenall the political stuff and all
that, when really we don't wantany of that at all.
But it does read exactly whatyou look at the most.

(25:35):
It reads exactly what you lookat for the longest periods of
time.
Um, you know which ones youliterally flick past the fastest
and it you know, if you flickit past fast, then it's not
going to show you that sort ofstyle of content anymore.
What is very good, very good attoo, and AI is very good at
noticing within the 60 secondsor whatever it is, a short or
TikTok may be exactly what thatTikTok's about and how it

(25:58):
follows it.
So it could be, you know, youcould be talking about travel.
Then again, you could betalking about business affairs
you could be talking about.
You know politics you could betalking about the weather,
whatever it is, it knows what.
What the actual is is holdingpeople to that content, you see,
and so, and then it's pushingup that content to other
like-minded people.
So that's where you always findthat.

(26:18):
You know, I know, myself and mywife, for instance, we're on
two very different algorithms.
I'd never, I'd never heard ofmood dang until she come along
and said, obviously, mood dang,I'm like no, who's Dang, so I'm
not on Mu Dang TikTok.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Well, it's funny because we know that, I know
that Emmaline is a Swifty andwhen, like the Eris tour was in
full effect, I think I saw thatwhole concert on TikTok before,
before it even came to town.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
We posted it all yeah .

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, do you know how much I am excited to be with
you tonight?
She is kicking off the finalleg of her tour tonight and I'm
here with you instead ofwatching it on your live feed on
TikTok.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's a lot.
That's how I feel about you.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
You're so honored, that is so cool.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So, Josh, is that, is that an example of Minnesota
nice?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
No, Minnesota nice is more passive, more passive,
aggressive.
Oh so I?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
take it the wrong way .

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, minnesota, nice is like like hey yeah,
minnesota nice is more likepolite, but really like
underneath it, oh, there's deeprage and anger.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, maybe the reason I polite, but really like
underneath it, oh, there's deeprage and anger.
Well, maybe there is, I don'tknow.
Maybe they're right, exactly,maybe she is.
Then maybe that is minnesotanice and deep down she's like
hurry up and finish thisconversation, boys.
I need to be, I need to watchsomething, hurry up in miami
right now exactly getting backto your travels, emeline, as
well, because you said beforeyou worked in the corporate
industry and stuff as well, andI take it that's where you

(27:52):
travel from.
Is that where your travelorigins are and where you
started your travel stuff?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
No, not at all.
That was something that camelater in life.
No, my travel started muchyounger, I think.
Growing up I was very much.
I cannot think of a singlefamily vacation that didn't
include visiting family.
So, for example, we went toColorado, we visited family, but

(28:22):
then we'd stop by Pikes Peak,you know.
Or we'd go to Tubac, Arizona,and then take a road trip to Las
Vegas.
So I never was the kid that gotto just like go to Disney back
Arizona and then take a roadtrip to Las Vegas.
So I never was the kid that gotto just like go to Disney world
or whatever there was, alwayslike well, we could really go
visit great aunt Cecil, let'smake a trip of it.
And so I grew up getting to seevarious parts of the country.

(28:47):
But I think you know the firstinkling that I got that I would
love travel was as a senior gift.
My senior year of high schoolmy dad took me to New York City,
primarily because I wasobsessed with the show Total
Request Live on MTV.

(29:07):
Are you familiar with this atall?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yes, josh is, I'm not .
I'm from Australia.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Craig's an Aussie.
He doesn't know anything.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
It is the ultimate millennial TV show.
On MTV.
We watch it every day afterschool and I was obsessed.
This was the Carson Daly era.
But also I just I'd never beento a city like that.
And so, as my senior gift myparents, you know it wasn't
common for us to take trips likethis.
This was a big deal, this was abig gift, and my dad took me

(29:38):
and we were there for, I want tosay, like four days or
something.
This was August of 2001.
So you can do the math on that.
It was a big it was a verydifferent experience, being
there for my first time and thengoing back multiple times after
that into a totally differentcity.
So I'm very grateful that I gotthat experience, that we got to

(30:00):
go the first thing off theairplane we went straight to
Times Square, to the MTV studiosso that I could be in the
audience of TRL.
Now here I am the nerdiest kidthat you've ever met in your
life, on my own.
And we get in line and they'renot picking.
You know, they kind of handpickkids to go in line because it's
a small studio and they want itto look good for TV.

(30:21):
Not picking me, not picking me.
My dad walks up to the producershe's got the you know headset
and the clipboard and he says Ireally want to enjoy the rest of
my trip, Please, with my bestbright red tank top with a
butterfly on it, like very 2001.

(30:58):
And we went back and I got togo up and sit in the audience
and Michelle Branch was on andCarson Daly was the host.
It was a whole thing.
But that trip, that was thereason that we went right.
But because of that I also gotto go to the Statue of Liberty,
learn about Ellis Island andpeople emigrating, immigrating
to America and got to visit theTwin Towers and I got to, you
know, experience Times Squareand these massive city lights

(31:20):
that I just never experiencedbefore, and that was it.
I was like I'm in, I'm here forthis, this is what I want to
keep doing that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
That was my first trip too, because my family was
not a big, especially not a bigairplane trip family like we.
We were mostly going wheneverybody was going to
disneyland and disney world.
I was going to wisconsin delft,which which is, uh, is where
you go when your parents can'tafford to go to disney world.

(31:51):
You go to w Dells um the water,the water park capital of the
world.
It is.
It's a great place to visit.
I visited there as a fun fact.
It's a fun place to visit as anadult too.
Um, but it's no.
It's no Disney world Um, didyou do some?
You did some?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
um travel in college too, yeah, so so you know, that
trip to New York City reallylike got me interested in
learning more about the world,but at that point I'd still
never been outside the country.
And then when I was in collegeI went to Minnesota State,
moorhead, and I learned thatthey had a an exchange program
with the University ofPortsmouth in England and it was

(32:28):
a one for one program.
The credits cost exactly thesame.
The only extra costs were kindof getting there and whatnot and
it was like kind of, you know,click the calculator keyboard,
like I think maybe I can makethis work and sure enough.

(32:48):
I spent my entire junior year ofcollege in England Wow it was
formative, to say the least, inmany many ways.
But you know, when it comes tohow it changed my outlook on the
world, I so many thingshappened that year.
Like you know, I always say andI think this is very similar I
haven't been to Europe in quitea while at this point.

(33:09):
But once you're there it'spretty easy to get around and
we're traveling the UnitedStates.
Sometimes you go to differentstates and they feel like
different countries.
We have such different cultureshere in Europe.
It's kind of the same, exceptyou're genuinely visiting these
like massively, extremelydifferent cultures within like
short, very short trips of eachother and then seeing all that,

(33:33):
you know, I kind of relate it toDorothy in the Wizard of Oz.
Like I'd spent my whole life inMinnesota in the United States,
traveling to a couple differentplaces, and then I got to go
abroad and suddenly I was likeoh wait, hold on, there's color.
Everyone else is like living incolor.

(33:54):
What's happening here?
There's other languages andfoods and all this is real.
I thought that was just on TV.
And so that's where I think myvast outlook on life changed and
I genuinely changed even what Iwanted to do for a living that
year.
Like I thought that I wanted tobe a lawyer.
I thought that's what I wantedto do for a living.
That year, like I thought thatI wanted to be a lawyer, I

(34:15):
thought that's what I wanted todo with my life.
And then I traveled and I waslike nevermind, I don't want to
work 80 hours a week and notspend time with my family.
Like turns out, I actually missthem.
Now that I'm not with them, Iactually would like to maybe
pivot and do something differentwith my life.
And so it was, like I said,formative in so many ways.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So would that be the time in which you like caught a
travel bug, for instance?
You know what I mean.
You thought to yourself well,I've got to do more of this.
You know, as you said before, Ican't sit in an office for the
80 plus hours, you know, andthen go home and then cook a
microwave dinner.
I need to actually get out andabout and experience more things
.
Was that the when it actuallyoccurred to you?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Was it that I would say that is when it occurred.
However, my bank accountdisagreed with me.
I wish that I kind of had donethat.
You know what, what I, what.
I ended up kind of.
You know, I followed that verystereotypical path, like you go
to high school and you go tocollege and you get married and
you buy a house and you have akid and that that's.

(35:13):
I had the most amazing,incredible experience because of
that, uh, but I did not get totravel as much as now, 40 year
old, me looking back, wishesthat I maybe had had an
opportunity to do and that Iwould encourage other people to
do.
Yeah do and that I wouldencourage other people to do.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, I think that's a common story for a lot of
people.
I mean even travel within theUnited States.
As you said, we live in a verylarge, diverse country and,
again, I didn't get on anairplane until I was 16 years
old and I mean I will neverforget that trip.
I did all the many of thethings that you said when you
went to New York as well, andit's just like, yes, it just

(35:57):
opens up your world and it justreally has the ability to just
completely change your worldview, which, in turn, ends up
actually changing you as well.
So talk a little bit abouttravel now, because I again, I
follow you on social media.
You do the corporate stuff, youdo the Minnesota content, but

(36:19):
I've seen you get on a cruiseship I don't know how it
happened.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I think I've become a cruise person.
I don't, is that?
Does it just happen when youturn 40?
I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I've never done it.
I've never done it, I've neverdone it.
And I asked you specifically.
I've never been on a cruise, Inever have.
And I asked you specificallybecause you were like whoa, you
were like I think you were likesurprised, Like Disney cruise is
where it's at.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, oh yeah, and I could.
Honestly that's a whole otherepisode I could go for, but I
guess I'll, I'll.
I'll back up a little bit.
Like you know, after you knowwe talked about I did get that
travel bug and so I did travelas much as I could and you know,
often would take kind of likean annual trip, ish, as close as

(37:05):
I could and as close as ourbudget would allow to.
You know, either a reallyspectacular place or maybe like
a smaller trip somewhere alittle bit more local.
But about 10 years ago I took ajob where I was going to be
able to travel for business.
Right, I made the big times atwork.

(37:26):
I got to travel to places likeWest Des Moines, iowa.
I've traveled to places likeWest Des Moines.
Iowa, madison, wisconsin, better, better Milwaukee no, I'm
joking.
Actually, what I love aboutthose experiences was that I got
to learn how incredible placeslike Des Moines and Madison

(37:47):
actually are.
Those are places I never wouldhave voluntarily just taken a
trip to are.
Those are places I never wouldhave voluntarily just taken a
trip to.
And now I know how incrediblethose places are, that there's
really just beauty in every citythat you go to if you look for
it.
But I did also get to go toChicago quite a bit, which kind
of scratched that itch of thatbig city life.
I love Chicago.

(38:08):
I think it's, you know, a greatkind of like slight step down
from New York.
It's a little bit moremanageable.
It's pretty close to the TwinCities here where I live and so.
But I've also been incrediblyfortunate to get to travel to
some pretty incredible placesbecause of work, like Las Vegas
or Nashville or Grand Cayman.

(38:29):
You know I've kind of I jokethat I like lucked into that.
I didn't.
It's.
It's because of hard work andwhat I do every day at work that
I've, you know, been able tohave those experiences, for for
various reasons I work inmarketing and so that yeah that
allows for a lot of those typesof opportunities.
uh, but I I always pair thatwith personal trips, so I rarely

(38:53):
go an entire year where I don'ttake at least one personal trip
.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That's fair enough.
That's fair enough, and that'sthe thing as well.
And things like, as you saidbefore, nashville.
I recently went to Nashvilleand I had no Josh, are you ready
for this?
I haven't told you this either.
I had no idea about whatNashville was going to be like.
I heard of Nashville as a bigcity, big town, whatever you
want to call it.
So I was doing a self-drivesort of tour, as I do I've done

(39:23):
several now around the US andyeah, so I thought I'm going
past Nashville, I might as wellpop in.
I found a car spot for my carand I got out.
I found a car spot for my carand I got out and thought I'll
just walk up and down the mainstreet, overwhelmed like galore.
It was insane.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It was it was.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I wasn't ready for it , though, josh.
I hadn't prepared myself,mentally focused wise, so I
literally, I literally justwalked up one side of the street
, turned around and crossed theroad, walked down the other side

(39:58):
of the street and then got backto the car and went I've got to
get out of here now.
I'm done.
For me, it was like it was likethe the country version of las
vegas.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, like, yes, that's great las vegas in cowboy
boots and cowboy hats.
That's what it is.
That's a great description ofit.
Yeah, and with every, with livemusic pumping out of every
single place.
If you love music, there's areason why it's called music
city, usa.
Um, um, yeah, my kids go tocollege, or currently, one child
goes to college about an hournorth of there, so it's the
airport that we get to fly into.

(40:20):
So many trips to Nashville,emma, what I'm really curious.
You've been a lot around thecities of the United States and
this podcast is really aboutsome of those hidden things,
sometimes some of thoseunderrated cities that that
people maybe don't always thinkabout.
I have two questions.
First one, maybe maybe youalready mentioned it what is

(40:41):
your favorite us city to visit?
And then, and then, secondly,what is your favorite like
underdog us city that maybepeople don't necessarily think
about?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Oh favorite city is hard because I think it totally
depends on my mood.
Like, if I'm in the right moodit's Las Vegas, if I'm in the
right mood it's New York City orChicago.
You know what I mean.
Or I just want to be on a beachsomewhere.
So it totally depends on mood,but I think those are like
pretty obvious.
But when we talk about hiddengems, I think back to my
favorite.
Now again, there was, I need tobe clear, there was family

(41:18):
visiting involved in this.
But then our, my family, did goand have this other incredible
day.
We stayed in dover, delaware,what, what I'm gonna, I'm gonna
write it down amazing beachsidetown, okay, and we stayed out of
bed and breakfast and I thinkit was, you know, memorable for

(41:40):
me because I was like I don'tknow 14 and I got to have my own
room in this bed and breakfastbut you know, it had the most
like incredible little town andthe best hospitality and
beautiful beach.
It was it.
Honestly, it gave like um, capeCod vibes.
That was another really greattrip that I took.
We kind of snuck out duringCOVID, uh, a couple of friends

(42:03):
of mine, the three of us, werented a cottage in Cape Cod and
none of us had ever been there.
We flew into Providence, rhodeIsland, and we drove up the Cape
and that was all.
Three of us talk about thatbeing one of the best vacations
that we've taken at all.
Like it was different becauseit wasn't more in the thick of

(42:23):
COVID, like it was still outdoordining and masks and and
whatnot.
And thankfully, you know,everything worked out great,
were all very careful and andeverything but um, getting to
experience cape cod when it wasa little quieter, a little less
crowded, getting to kind of goup to provincetown, and um, it
was that that was so memorableto me.

(42:44):
So it's those kind of likequiet little surprises where you
get a mix of being somewherethat you're not used to and
getting to relax a little bittoo.
I think that's a big part ofkind of those memorable key
vacations.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
And Josh, just to let you know as well.
I just looked it up itself andit's pretty much directly in the
dead center of Delaware fromnorth to south and it's along
there.
It's almost along the DelawareBay there as well.
So you've got directlynorth-south.
It's pretty much exactly in themiddle and close to the bay.
It's near the Bombay HookNational Wildlife Refuge.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So there you go.
I believe we for sure knew thatI did not.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Feel free to use any of this information in line for
your next TikTok.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
That's fine that is a state that I've never been to.
I've never been to.
Delaware, and I've never wentcertainly.
Then I've never found ageocache.
And I've been to all.
I mean I've been to almostevery us state, but I have not
okay there's a.
I haven't done your list I knowI haven't done the main down to
down to all the new England.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I've done.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I've done New York but that's, that's the only
place I haven't.
I've been to Hawaii, I've beento Alaska, I've been to
everywhere else, I just haven'tbeen there that got the
high-pitched.
What out of me like I know, Iknow that you have not.
That was like.
That was like the taylor swift,like excitement voice.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
It was me meanwhile, emmeline, I mean you look at me,
for instance.
I've been in the us now forthree years.
Have a guess how many statesthat I've been through in the us
at the moment?
I haven't done all of them.
I'll let you know they are, buthow many in total?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
well, the way that you said that makes me feel like
you've been to a lot.
I don't know.
I'm gonna say I mean I did.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I have been through delaware.
I sneezed as I went throughdelaware and that's it like I
was.
It was done um 25 oh no, we'renear 48, holy cow.
All I'm missing is uh is maineand new hampshire as well, up
the top corner that's incrediblewell, it sounds like both of
you need to have a new englandadventure oh correct yes, that

(44:58):
needs to happen.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
So enough of that, yeah well, can I say one more
thing about delaware, and, likethe people, that some of the
people that listen to this theylike, know my appreciation for
pop culture.
Emmeline have, have you ever Iknow I know craig hasn't because
he hasn't seen anything haveyou ever seen wayne's world?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
uh, a million years ago.
I have you watched it, but yes,craig.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Have you seen wayne's world?
of course, I've seen why ohthere's so many things that he
oh, there's so many things thatI bring up it pop culture.
He has no clue.
Anyway, there's a funny part inwayne's world I don't know if
it's wayne's world or wayne'sworld too do you guys remember
this?
Where they're?
They're in front of a greenscreen and they're like, and
that things pop like, places popup and it's like hell, like

(45:43):
howdy partner, we're in texas.
And then another one pops outlike, yeah, we're in new york.
And then Delaware pops up andthey're like hi, we're in
Delaware, yeah, delaware Like.
They're like Delaware is notknown for anything.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, they're known for one of my favorite vacation
spots.
How about?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
that.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Emmeline, I'm just letting you know now, and
everyone who knows Josh knowsthe same thing, and that is if
you were Josh's parents, youwould say to him the same thing
that either they said to him andthat is josh.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
if only you could remember your school work as
well as you do, your memoriesfor your music and for your
movies, then you'd be anabsolute brain child I think if
they so, if we learned in schoolin like song taylor, like if
taylor swift wrote about thepythagorean theorem, you would
all be geniuses.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
I'm saying or if for me, if I learned in like 80s
sitcoms yes like teaching mealbert algebra through the show
family ties.
That would I'd be a genius, Iwould.
I would have went to.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Uh, it's deal more girls, ivy league meanwhile,
emeline, I have it on goodauthority as well that you're
you're gonna head on a new big,big big trip very, very soon
I've got a lot involved in this,just to let you know but down
under.
You're going down under, isthat right?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I am.
I am so excited.
I wish that the listeners couldsee the smile on my face.
Okay, so this is a trip that'sa long time coming.
My partner and I have beenplanning this for a long time.
He has been to Australia Idon't even know five, six times,
but always for work.
So he has never gotten to go asa as a tourist, as someone just

(47:33):
getting to have fun.
And I've never been at all.
And I'm going to be honest withyou, I'm terrified of this
flight.
Let's just talk about that 17hours on an airplane yeah I
don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I feel like I'm gonna have to plan an itinerary just
for the flight and just to stopyou there as well, just to let
you know as you fly across, sofrom the us to australia, there
will be an entire day out of thecalendar that does not exist
for you.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
So I will not have a december 29th this year there
you go I am already morning willnot exist yeah, uh, no, so what
?
I'm, uh, especially excited, soI've always wanted to go there.
I found that I seem to have anaffinity for the Commonwealth
countries I don't know, but I'vealways wanted to go there.
And I get to check off twobucket list items on this one

(48:26):
trip, which is incredible.
So the first is we will be inSydney Harbor on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Oh, that's really good, that's really good.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm so excited yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
That's the New York of Australia.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Have you ever On New Year's Eve?
Have you ever been there?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I worked over 10 years on New Year's Eve in the
middle of Sydney.
I was an ex-police officer, soI'm actually standing on the
bridge, the bridge, the harborbridge, blocking traffic while
the fireworks is going off.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
so holy cow.
Okay, we maybe need to talkafter this.
I'm a little nervous, but I'mexcited.
Yeah, um, and then the otherthing of course is we're going
to go up.
Would we pronounce it?
Can karen, karen?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
it looks like karens, but can yeah, but no, ah, don't
pronounce it R, so it's Cairns.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Cairns, we're going to go up and do snorkeling in
the Great Barrier Reef, which isanother huge thing, you know,
sad, tragically, that is, youknow, dying, and so I'm so
thrilled that we get to be thereand I, thankfully, was able to
do some research and I had somegood recommendations of some
really ethical companies, wasable to do some research and I
had some good recommendations ofsome really ethical companies

(49:35):
and I'm really looking forwardto getting out there and just
seeing it while it still isthere, to see and experience
that we're also going to go toMelbourne, melbourne.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yes, there you go, yes.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Where I hear they have the world's best coffee, or
so they say.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
They say the world's.
Australia in general have theworld's best coffee.
But yes, melbourne have thedecent coffee shops.
They have the very spruceycoffee shops where they sit out
on milk crates and think thatthat's the trend.
But anyway, that's coming froma sydneyite, so there you go?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
yeah, well, I'm traveling I'm excited for all
the coffee I I love, oh yeahyeah traveling with craig.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
he hates our coffee, he doesn't even, he just thinks
it's dirty water.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
That's all it is.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
But we are also going above and beyond and heading
down to New Zealand for a fewdays as well.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Across Across to New Zealand, oh yes, you're right.
It is very.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Definitely more east, yeah, so it's going gonna be a
whirlwind.
We I'm literally like alreadyworking out to build up the
endurance that I'm gonna need.
But I.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
So how long are you going for?
How long in total is?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
it's gonna be about just over two weeks, okay yeah,
that's, that's just doable.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
That's just doable.
And why that, emmeline as wellis that what you've actually and
everyone in America don'treally know this itself as well,
and my wife, for instance, shenever knew this and this is how
we actually got started talkingwas because she was a silly
American and didn't know thesethings.
But what you're trip doing islike you're flying into DC and

(51:14):
then you're traveling all theway up to Canada border and then
all the way down to Florida andthen on the way home, basically
via New Zealand, you're goingto stop in Hawaii.
That's the sort of that's thesort of feeling, to just give
you people distances, us peopledistances.
That's the distance in whichyou'll be traveling.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I know we were booking the travel and it was
like okay, so do we get a car,do we get a train?
Oh no, we need a flight.
Oh, that's a three hour flight,you know.
So we definitely are well awareof the crazy level happening
here.
However, again, 17 hour flightto get there.
It was kind of like let's dowhat we can and try to make it

(51:48):
as valuable as possibleobviously your partner's been
done it several times.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You've said before, I've done it several times, my's
been done it several times.
You've said before, I've doneit several times.
My wife's done it several times.
It is doable.
It is a lot, though I will sayit is a lot.
It's hard on the body.
Make sure you get up and doyour walks, make sure you stay
hydrated that's all I can sayand hopefully you get some sleep
in as well, because you'regoing to need it.
Any issues that you're going tohave in regards to, normally,

(52:14):
when any, any issues that you'regoing to have in regards to, um
, normally, when I talk toamericans, the australian
wildlife, do you have any issues?
And I'll put your.
I'll put your issues to bed ifthat's the case, because
everything can kill you, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
So you know it's funny, one of my uh kind of
viral sounds on uh the internetis uh, you know, it was really
cold here in minnesota one dayand I was reminding myself we
don't have earthquakes, we don'thave hurricanes, we don't have
alligators, we don't haveearthquakes, we don't have
hurricanes, we don't havealligators.
So listen, here in Minnesota wehave it good, we have a very

(52:44):
gentle life compared to a lot ofplaces.
I'm just going to say this I aman arachnophobic, like hardcore
, so there's definitely somefear.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Let me put your mind at ease, and that is everything
in Australia can kill you, butnothing wants to kill you, if
that makes sense.
So don't touch anything If yousee something crawling around or
slithering around.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
It wants to go the other way.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
No, no, no.
Just don't touch it, It'll goaway itself.
Just don't touch it, it'll.
It'll go away itself.
Just don't touch it, you willsee.
Now you talk about arachnophobes, because this is a lot of
problem.
Uh, a lot of people have withspiders.
Australia do have large spidersand the biggest ones that and
they are ugly, I will saythey're not an attractive spider
is called the huntsman.
They're big and they're brownand they're furry, but they are

(53:33):
good to have in your housebecause they take care of all
the mosquitoes.
They take care of all theircockroaches.
There's no pests in the houseand they will not harm you.
They will not bite you.
They're not after you.
They are quick, but don't letthat scare you.
They're not after you.
They won't crawl on you.
They don't want to be aroundyou.
They just want the cockroach.
They just want the next meal.
You, they don't want to bearound you.
They just want the cockroach.

(53:53):
They just want the you know thenext meal.
But that's not going to be you.
That's the same in everythingin australia nothing.
You are not on the menu of anyanimal in australia, so don't
worry about it.
Not even the big, great whitesharks.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
As you know, you're not on the menu, so okay, good,
you know, I will say I'vewatched enough robert irwin
videos and I see him get likereal close to some questionable
creatures.
That I think.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Now you know I've got a couple of reliable sources
helping to reassure me a littlebit the only thing is but again
you said before, you havereputable people up in cans as
well, and that is, I'm not surethe exact dates themselves, but
there is what they call stingerseason coming up now.
Josh, you'll love this, you'reready for this, josh?
And that is stingers.
They're actually class.
We call them stingers becauseit sounds nicer than box

(54:36):
jellyfish.
Box jellyfish are the numberone most deadliest animal in the
entire world.
Um, and they are.
They are off the coast of kens,like they are up there, but
they're only in differentseasons.
Now, if it's stinger season,then they will give you a
protective suit to wear so theydon't actually harm me and won't
touch you.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
So there you go yeah, so that's all I was gonna say.
I'm about to google stingerseason.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Have a look at stinger season when it is.
But either way, they they willprotect you, the people up there
, always because they wanttourists to come back.
They don't want to killtourists.
Geez, it's only happened acouple of times where people
have actually died in cans, butthat's a different story
altogether you just do what dorysaid, right, just keep swimming
, just keep swimming, yeah, ifyou can.

(55:20):
It doesn't paralyze, dory getstung.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I think dory got stung but just a general
jellyfish.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
That was as a by a normal jellyfish, not a box.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I mean, if I'm honest , just the ocean alone freaks me
out.
And so anything else is.
I'm really like overcoming afear here on its own, but it's
important enough to me that I'mwilling to do the hard work for
it.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, no, you'll really enjoy yourself and, as I
said, we'll talk later after theshow as well, if you have any
other questions, and you canalways message me afterwards as
well, so anyway, Josh.
I'm already having fomo.
I'm already having it's noteven.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Josh has never been there, josh, I've never been
there.
I'm already having fomo andthis is actually a podcast about
the us, so let's come back home, okay, guys?
Just talking about it, I'm alittle jealous.
Um, you're gonna be there whenit's night, like nice, like we
know how it is some of this,some of it at yeah, oh boy, okay
, I'm really curious about this.

(56:19):
You're not a, you're not asocial media creator for travel
but you sometimes well, butsometimes you do.
You travel, so sometimes youcapture it and and you know,
when I watch social mediaespecially travel, travel
bloggers or travel things onInstagram, sometimes it it kind
of, sometimes it romanticizessome of, romanticizes some of

(56:42):
the travel.
And is there anything for you,if you're creating social media
while you're traveling, does itimpact your trip in any way, or
is there a feeling like you haveto show how amazing and how
beautiful it is?
You know what know, you knowwhat I'm saying, like, what's
your, what's your take on that?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I am so not that type of creator, and I think, even
if it was a primary source ofincome for me, I don't think I
would venture down that path IfI was ever going to be lucky
enough, or, or you know, chooseto do travel content creation.
It's going to be raw and real.
I'm not going to just show youthis beautiful view in front of

(57:26):
me, I'm going to show you theline of people behind me, and so
I think that it's that wholeInstagram versus reality.
I think internet has beenwonderful for introducing people
to new places and inspiringthem to go visit somewhere, but
it does a really bad job ofsetting realistic expectations
about what's this budgetactually going to look like?

(57:48):
What's the travel time actuallygoing to be?
What's it going to be like whenyou actually get there?
Is it actually going to looklike that, or have you seen a
bunch of videos with filters?
So I think you know that'swhere I do this in my, my
personal, everyday content.
I don't use filters other than,however you know, the the
grainy filter is on Tik TOKanyway, but if I'm posting to

(58:10):
Instagram or wherever, I'mshowing it to you exactly how it
came through on my camera.
I want you to know exactly whatmy experience was.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
But some, you know, sometimes it's tough, just in a
world where there's so muchsponsored content especially if
some if somebody's being paid tovisit a place it's like you
don't want as a creator and youdon't want to be like showing
the bad stuff you know what it'sso it's a tricky place and just
and being aware of like youknow when, as consumers, to know
like, oh, it's good that wehave laws where it says, hey,

(58:43):
this is sponsored content, bythe way.
Even so, if everybody's showingthe all the wonderful things and
like, for me too, it's like Iwas just in germany, for I was
in germany for four days, okay,and italy.
Italy for italy for literallyone day, okay, and germany for
three days.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And Milan.
Here he was just saying oh,I've got FOMO, get off Australia
, I've got FOMO.
Now he's just bragging aboutGermany and Italy.
Keep on going, josh, keep ongoing.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
It was literally just like a long weekend, right, and
I was in Italy for two days andGermany for three.
And here's the thing this iskind of the reality versus what
actually is.
People sometimes view mycontent and I release it slowly,
so in those four days Iprobably made eight videos, and

(59:33):
so people have this perceptionoh my gosh, I wish I could
travel, I wish I had the moneyfor that.
You're literally in that placefor like two months, when it
literally is like four days.
You know what I mean.
So it's like I just it's sofascinating the perception that
people have of of people thatput out especially travel
content, thinking, thinking it's, it's like something more extra

(59:55):
extravagant than it actually isyeah yeah, absolutely.
That wasn't a question, just anobservation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Well, I've got a question on that, josh, and that
is Emmeline.
Tell us your experiences,because you said before you
travel for business and work aswell.
What's the difference for youwhen you travel for business or
work compared to when you travelfor yourself, for leisure?
Yeah, so I mean I thinkpartially.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
It's obvious, right, like when I travel for work, I
have things that I have to dofor other people.
There's an obligation Someoneelse likely paid for me to be
there.
So I am obligated to, you know,go to those meetings or attend
that conference, like be atthose certain events.
But what I am, what I've oftenbeen able to do, is work in an

(01:00:39):
extra half day or an extra dayon the end, where, if I'm in a
new city, somewhere that I'venever been where, maybe I'm not
going to have time in theevenings because I'm at a
conference or I have all thesemeetings.
But let's say I'm in DC for thefirst time in 10 years and I
want to check it out.
I'm flying into the Reaganairport that's closer to the
national mall, so that I canspend a few hours that morning

(01:01:03):
before I fly out, getting tovisit the sites.
And then I feel like I didn'tjust fly in and sit in a
boardroom and look out a window,like I could have done here in
the Twin Cities, but rather Igot to experience it.
And now I'm remembering thatwith a fonder memory and it kind
of brings it all full circle alittle bit better.

(01:01:24):
I also to me when I travel forwork, it is very rare that I
that I don't engage in some sortof like social networking
activity, networking activity Tome, networking is like the most
important thing that you can doin your career corporate or
otherwise like that's where youmeet people, that's where walls

(01:01:45):
get broken down, that's where westart to have a little fun.
You talk about the food thatyou like or you know, as the
evening goes on, you know likeyou, just you open up about
yourselves and then you buildtrust.
And so when I take these worktrips for me personally, I know
this isn't how it is for a lotof people, but yes, I'm going,
I'm showing up to that, 8 ammeeting and we're working till,

(01:02:05):
you know, 4 o'clock or 5 o'clock.
But then I make that effort togo to the happy hour or go to
the dinner so that I can relax alittle bit, where I might be
exhausted and just wanting to gotake a nap.
But if I can power through, itmakes that trip so much more
enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, you get that personal experience afterwards.
Yeah, that's an interestingpoint, because when I travel for
work and I'm not talking aboutwhen I make YouTube videos
that's like a different type ofwork.
But when I travel for my dayjob, I personally find it hard
to relax, like I find it hard torelax.
I find it hard If I have anearly morning.
I mentally cannot check out ofwork mode in my brain and

(01:02:52):
personally I have a hard timerelaxing or even enjoying
something really cool or fun inthe city when I know I have work
the next morning, especially ifit's early.
Do you have?
Do you have a?
Do you have trouble separatingthat this, this like a work trip
, from like a trip that doesn'tinclude work?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Absolutely not, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I'm glad for you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
No, I, truly I am.
I'm very you know, hashtagblessed to have those kind of
strong boundaries and my brainjust works that way.
I know that is not how everyoneworks.
Often we'll be out and peoplelike it's time for me to go back
.
I got to prepare for tomorrowwhere I prepared for tomorrow a
few days ago and I still feelgood about that and I'm able to

(01:03:34):
kind of keep going and enjoy theevening.
You know, to have that fun, tobreak down those walls a little
more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Love that, love that.
Josh.
Guess what we're going to do?
Because I, emmaline if youdon't know, if you haven't heard
our show before, I'm thetimekeeper of our show.
I'm the one that's in charge.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Somebody's got to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I've got to try and reel Josh in, and so what we're
going to do a little goldennugget, josh, for the patron.
What do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
you think a golden nugget coming out of the
treasure box yes, yes and that's, if you don't know, what a
golden nugget is that's for ourpatrons.
We, we provide from time totime extra bonus content and, uh
, emeline has agreed to beforewe, before we started this
recording, she has actuallyagreed to to talk to us even a

(01:04:20):
little bit longer, even thoughshe is missing a very important
Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Swift concert and Josh, we're going to tease.
We're going to tease everyoneas well, because we're going to
ask Emmaline for patrons onlyand that is, her bucket list
places where to go, where she'sgoing to go, what's on her list
and also her travel tips as well.
They're the main two questionswe're going to ask for Emmaline.
So if you want to be part ofthat, if you want to listen to
Emmaline's bucket list andtravel tips, Josh, how can

(01:04:46):
people go ahead and do that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
So if you're enjoying this podcast, we would love
your support.
This podcast is fully supportedby listeners.
By helping us, you're helpingus to continue doing this,
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please consider joining us atpatreoncom backslash treasures

(01:05:09):
of our town and before we letthat M line go too far as well M
line how can people find you onsocial media etc as well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
So you can find me on TikTok, you can find me on
instagram, youtube, facebook,and I think that's it for now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
That's a that's a lot yeah, you know what you should
join.
You people need to join the 20people on facebook yes, please
exactly be the person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
It's an intimate community.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
You know me, you know she's not gonna maybe respond
to all a quarter million peopleon tiktok, but you know what, if
you're one of those 20 or 21,she's going to be like, hey,
you're my best friend exactlyright.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And of course, josh, all the links for these.
Uh, for emma lyons, um uh,social media is going to be in
the in the show notes.
But meanwhile, josh, as well,we've got a shout out.
We got fan mail from last lastepisode.
We got fan mail fan mail firstcame from mel from she's a
patron as well, mel.
And she says she just said yes,I would totally love to buy a

(01:06:07):
shirt.
Yay, I'm so glad and then shesays, yay, I'm so glad y'all
enjoyed seeing my friend brandongiles performed in alabama
remember it was brandon giles.
We forgot his name.
Yeah, I didn't forget it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
You forgot it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I did I did, but yeah , so there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
So yeah, she would buy a shirt.
She wants a shirt that says.
She wants a shirt that saysthey're proud of their town.
That's a damn rare thing thesedays.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
See, I got it in the show I know I got it.
In the show you got we also hadMinnesota Boy, a Minnesota Boy,
a Minnesota Boy.
He says great topic.
Guys.
I love traveling with my mates,but I also love the freedom of
solo travel where I get to makeall the decisions himself.
Both have their ups and downs,but both have valuable
experiences as well.
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Yes, and our last show was about solo travel.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yes, which is honestly so important.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Yes, yes, it was a great experience and we we
really enjoyed it.
We had a good show.
That, uh, episode two, josh.
So just saying, and our lastone, because some people don't
actually write their names whenthey do their fan mail comments,
josh.
So the last one's from new york, new york and it says awesome
show.
I saw back to the future inlondon and it was amazing.
Excellent interview and topicand keep it up, guys.

(01:07:22):
So there you go, from New York,new York.
So if you want to send us a fanmail, please just put your name
in there somewhere for us toactually realize where it's
coming from Exactly Otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Josh, how can people find or contact us from here?
Feel free to reach out to us atTreasures of our town podcast
at gmailcom, or you can followus on facebook, instagram, x and
youtube so that's it for ourshow today.
Please subscribe, rate andreview on your favorite
podcasting app and, as always,josh may your travels always
lead you to the most unexpectedand amazing hidden gems around
the world.
See you next time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Everybody thanks emma lion that was so nice of you to
join us.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
This was awesome.
Bye.