Why Munzee is Great For Travelers. (W/Rob Vardeman)

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Venture into the world of location-based gaming as we explore how Munzee transforms ordinary travel into extraordinary adventures. Join hosts Joshua and Craig as they welcome Rob, President of Munzee, for an insider's look at this 14-year-old global phenomenon that serves as the perfect companion for curious travelers.

Discover why Munzee has been called "the love child of geocaching and Pokemon Go" as Rob explains the game's unique blend of physical QR code hunting and virtual creature capturing. Unlike traditional geocaching, Munzee allows players to leave their mark virtually anywhere in the world, creating connections between travelers who might never meet but share experiences in the same breathtaking locations.

The conversation reveals how Munzee enhances travel in unexpected ways – turning tedious airport layovers into opportunities for play, guiding you to hidden local gems, and encouraging exploration beyond tourist traps. Learn about virtual gardens, competitive clan gameplay, and how capturing Munzees can create lasting digital memories of your adventures.

Whether you're a solo traveler seeking authentic experiences, a family looking to make road trips more engaging, or simply someone who enjoys discovering new places, this episode offers compelling reasons to add this versatile game to your travel toolkit. The hosts share personal stories of how Munzee has led them to unexpected discoveries, connected them with local communities, and preserved special travel moments through digital interactions.

Ready to transform how you experience the world? Download the Munzee app, scan our referral code from the episode artwork, and join a global community of explorers who find treasure in the journey, not just the destination.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's strategy in this game.
You're going deep now You'regoing deep.
Do you love to travel?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Do you love road trips?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Do you love finding hidden treasures in towns all
over the USA?
Hi, I'm Joshua.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
And I'm Craig.
Welcome to Treasures of OurTown.
It's a podcast that exploresunique and charming towns all
over the USA.
Hi, I'm Joshua and I'm Craig.
Welcome to Treasures of OurTown.
It's a podcast that exploresunique and charming towns
scattered throughout the UnitedStates.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Guided by our love for location-based games like
geocaching and Munzee, join usas we venture into some of the
country's most intriguingdestinations, uncovering hidden
gems and local secrets along theway.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You said it, josh, you just said it.
Then, on today's episode, wetalk about the mobile game.
We all play the game of Munzee.
It is a coexist.
We do Munzee, we do geocaching,some people do Pokemon Go as
well other location-based games.
This one is called Munzee, josh, and we'll get into that very,
very soon.
We've got a special guest too,Josh.
Yeah, very special guest.

(01:02):
Who could it be?
I don't know right, but someonewho wears a green jacket often,
I dare say that's a very goodhint.
I'm giving away too much.
If you already know, if youknow, you know.
Yes, that's true.
If you know you know Now, josh,I'm going to say this is what
we spoke of here earlier andI'll say congratulations, mate.
I'm leading into the upgradesand the delays.
I'm going sayingcongratulations on your upgrades

(01:25):
, sir.
So your, your upgrade isslightly different to uh, to
mine, I, I did, I did myparticular upgrade, uh, six
months ago now.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
So tell us, tell us josh, tell us, yeah, great you
know this might be tmi, but youknow what we're really getting
to know our listeners quite well, and so I am of the age where
it's that time to make sureeverything's working well,
everything's great, cancer-free.
So I, just today, today, greg,hot off the press, I just

(01:55):
completed well, I didn'tcomplete it, I slept through it
my very first colonoscopy.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wow, Wow.
What has this podcast come to,Joshua?
Very different to what I didmine, as I said before, I did
mine about six months ago, butmy doctor ordered mine and a
little bucket came in the mail.
Josh and I had to supply alittle sample and then I had to
seal the bucket and then postthe bucket back, and then I

(02:24):
would have had to go and get towhat you've done, had they've
seen anything unusual in thatbucket.
But apparently there wasnothing unusual in that bucket.
So surprise me actually,because you know it's not a good
look.
But anyway, we're going too fardown that rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, let me just say this so it is an upgrade, and
I'll just say this you knowthere might be some.
There's a lot of men that playlocation games.
There's a lot of middle-agedmen that play these games, and I
just want to say it's.
This is the public serviceannouncement.
Gentlemen, get your checkups.
Yeah, yourself checked out.
Yeah, um, do the all the thingsyour doctor's telling you to do

(03:00):
, like a colonoscopy, becauseit's, I was told, like
colonoscopies, like that kind ofcancer can be the most avoided
as long as it's checked outexactly, it's exactly right and
and that's the thing you'reright just as well men,
especially women, women, I findit very different.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Women and women will go and get checked out like at a
drop of a hat.
Men, we don't, we sort of, we,we push it off, you know.
So that's a very good uh, psa,uh, public service announcement
and that is, yeah, every, everyman should get uh checked of our
age and we're turning the agesof 45 and 50, I do believe.
Yes, for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So yeah, so that was my upgrade.
It was and I'll just say it wasactually the best nap I've
taken in a long time well,that's because it was.
It was medically induced I knowI wish all maps were like that.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Maybe may, josh, you need the secret sauce from the
nap people.
Yeah, something Fair enough,fair enough.
Well, mate, my upgrade was thefact is, that I've actually been
doing the GIF video as well,editing the GIF video itself as
well.
But my major upgrade is I'mcurrently in a little hotel in

(04:06):
Chicago, illinois, and I'mflying down to the Gulf Shore of
Alabama for a week.
Down in Alabama, on the GulfShores, Because, as you know,
I'm part of the committee forBamaRama for 2026 in February
21st, 2026.
And so I'm going down there andI'm assisting with some of the
meeting stuff and the committeestuff down there as well,
assisting with some of the, themeeting stuff and the the
committee stuff down there aswell.

(04:27):
So that's going to be prettycool.
Well, actually it's gonna bepretty hot this time of year in
alabama, but anyway, apart fromthat, that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
So, yes, yes, it will be a grand time, though, I'm
sure, and let's just talk aboutthat.
Uh, you mentioned the gif videowhich we just shot last weekend
, and that's actually one of myupgrades too, because I have
seen some preliminary edits it'slike almost completely edited.
We just need a couple moreclips and I'll just say, craig,

(04:54):
it is looking good I am so, soexcited for people to see it.
Hopefully the whole world will.
You know, the whole geocachingworld will see it.
I, hopefully, you know, I Iwell, I'm not going to count my
chickens before they're hatched,so I'm not going to say
anything else but no exactlyhopefully people will see it.
It's turning out really nice.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm excited yeah, and if, if you were part of the uh,
part of that, that uh, theproduction, josh, because we had
a lot of people turn up at theuh, at the uh event etc.
And they're part of theproduction.
Unfortunately, I couldn't getevery clip in, josh.
I had 47 minutes worth ofusable footage 47 minutes.
I had to cut out so much downto four minutes.

(05:33):
I had to get rid of 43 minutesof footage, got rid of it, gone,
hit the floor.
So if you were there helping usout and you're listening to
this podcast as well, thank youvery much for helping us, and
unfortunately you may not seeyour total self to some degree
in there, or if you do, it'smaybe for a split second, etc.
But but you are very importantand very important part of the

(05:55):
actual story itself too.
So we do thank you for the, forthe help, but a big thank you
goes out to chad tricassius inthat area as well.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
so he did a he is.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
He is an absolute.
He's more of a star than whatyou were in it, josh.
I'll say that.
I'll say that you know he's gotthe natural reaction, which is
really cool.
So, anyway, we won't give toomuch away.
Uh, in regards to all we'll say, is that GIF?
If you don't know what GIF is,it's called the G-I-F-F, the
Geocaching International FilmFestival, whereby, once a year,
everyone puts in their films andnormally, on average, about 12

(06:29):
to 15 videos get selected asfinalists, and then all those
videos.
You can go and see the videos,josh, over.
I think it's a four or five dayperiod where they can have GIF
events all over the world whichbasically showcase the videos at
each event too, which is reallycool, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I believe that this year is going to be the first
week of November.
So if you're a geocacher, lookaround for those events for that
first week of November andhopefully, knock on wood, you'll
get to see crossing fingers,crossing fingers, crossing
fingers and everything else.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I've got so well, my dad, crossing fingers, crossing
fingers and everything else I'vegot.
Well, mate, that's the onlydelay I have.
I've been flat chat, busy, busy, busy doing those edits, doing
the GIF video stuff too, anddoing a little bit of Munzee
work as well.
So I've been doing a lot ofstuff at the moment in the back
end, sitting down at PaneraBreads and at Dunkin' Donuts for

(07:23):
hours on end using their Wi-Fiand their air conditioning at
the moment, because it's beensteamy hot throughout the US too
.
So that's all I've been doing,mate.
That's busy, busy, busy.
What about you?
Any delay for you at?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
all it's the same.
You think that when we hitsummer, when you work in schools
, that things will be slower andless busy.
It is less busy, but in adifferent way.
So things, yeah, on the day jobfront are, you know, busy, just
like everybody else, and we'retrying our very best to enjoy
our Minnesota summer, whichtoday it's like 60 degrees and

(07:56):
rainy.
So there's my delay, for todaythe weather's not so great, but
we do not talk about the weatheron this podcast.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Anyway, well, we can if it's affecting the actual uh
gameplay or what we're doing,all the travel in which we're
talking about, or the locationin which we're talking about too
.
So, but today's location we'retalking about, josh, isn't just
a particular location, this is aworld.
What a global phenomenon atthat.
Yes, oh, I like that.
You like that?
That's good.
Should we introduce the uh, ourspecial guests we on, or do you

(08:25):
have anything else for anyoneelse?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
No, we should introduce.
No, let's just Okay.
You should introduce thembecause you are practically
coworkers.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, actually I'm going to introduce my boss, and
that is His name is Rob, alsoknown as Coach V as part of the
Munzee slash, geocaching etcetera as well.
He is the president of Munzeeand Rob Rob, rob, welcome buddy.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Hey howdy, as I say.
So, hey guys, how's it going?
Good to be here.
Thanks for asking me to join.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
This is the first time we've had you on Treasures
of Our Town, I believe, becauseI think I've been on the Munzee
podcast, but I don't think we'vehad you on this podcast, so I'm
excited to have you here.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I have listened to.
Not every single one, I won'tlie, but so many, so so many.
I've got to be in your toppercentages of having completed
episodes.
But yeah, I really enjoy whatyou guys do.
And when you sent me a messagesaying, hey, we're going to talk
about Munzee, it was like,absolutely, and I'm happy to

(09:28):
give you notes, and instead, no,I'm here, here to talk, but
before we talk Munzee, I havenot had the procedure that the
two of you are talking about,and this is my 49th year, so
definitely one of those thingsthat is due.

(09:49):
Um, yes, I know that I shoulddo that.
Uh, I am, you know, I live inengland.
Uh, most of my time officially,I do, uh, and but I'm back in
the us so much that it's kind oflike I'm there.
So, anyway, I'm, I'm gonna,I've, I've made a mental note to
August Check that out, get somestuff in motion there.

(10:10):
So, anyway, thank you both fortalking about that.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I will say Rob as well, you have to get by a
medical professional.
It can't be your wife, butanyway, we're going to do that.
Josh, we've had Rob on the showbefore we have.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I thought I had when we recorded live.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, when we recorded live in Flagstaff
Arizona, we had Rob and Tim wereon the show for Flagstaff
Arizona.
See, that's right.
There you go, josh.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I couldn't remember if we recorded that for Munzee
or if that was for Treasures ofOur Town, so that's good.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Or maybe a bit of A and a bit of B, but if people
don't know out there as well, Ilove my podcast, obviously, with
Josh Treasures of Our Town.
I'm also on the GCPC, theGeocaching Podcast as well.
It's the only live call-inpodcast every single week on a
Wednesday night.
But I also as well do theofficial Munzee podcast with Rob

(11:12):
.
Rob is the co-host with me onthat one and that's another
weekly podcast, half an hour, 30minutes and basically Rob and I
just we read the weekly blogand we tell people what's going
on and what's happening andwhat's coming up, et cetera, et
cetera from there.
So, rob, did you want to startat first and foremost?
If you're listening to this andyou're like Munzee, what the
heck in what in the world isMunzee?

(11:33):
Did you want to tell peoplewhat Munzee is, rob?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Spelling spelling of the name M-U-N-Z-E-E.
All right, so if you're goingto check it out, honestly, if
you search geocaching in the appstore, you'll probably find
munzee located in that littlelist, just so you know.
I don't know how that magicallyhappens, but it seems to uh, uh
.
Alternatively, if you searchmunzee, you will also see the

(11:56):
geocaching app, um, and that'sbecause, um, you guys actually
use this line, and I'm prettysure Josh came up with it, uh,
that that Munzee is the lovechild of geocaching and Pokemon
go.
And I think it really does fit,because there are two styles of
gameplay in Munzee.
There is a physical um gameplaystyle that is similar to

(12:20):
geocaching in that you arefinding something physical.
However, with us it's um 2d.
It's just a QR code.
That's all you're looking for.
So that makes it really easy.
If the person is nice, it makesit easy to find.
You would be surprised at howmany Munzees might be out there
in the real world around youthat you have walked past

(12:41):
hundreds of times and never seen.
So that whole muggle phrase ingeocaching and in Harry Potter
fits in very well with theMunzee world as well, if you've
ever seen people walking andstopping at every single light
post in a parking lot.
If they're at every single one,those are Munzee players.

(13:03):
If they're at every one that's528 feet apart, those are
geocachers.
Um, that's.
You know, that's how it is wewe both use the same places for
um hides.
So that's the physical game,and then the virtual game is
similar to a pokemon ghost styleof play, in that we have um own

(13:24):
IP, we have our own littlecharacters.
Cappy the unicorn is one of ourtwo main characters, and so
there's unicorns and dragons andall different types of myths
that bounce all over the worldand they land virtually, and so
you can see them on the map, andso then you have to be within a
certain distance of them inorder to cap them.

(13:47):
Cap, capture um them virtuallythose are our words.
You get points from the game.
Uh, you earn points from uh capons.
So if someone else is playinguh and they are, they are
capturing your monsies, then youget residual points from that
uh.
So, yeah, put them out, capturethem, get points from other

(14:08):
people doing it, and, uh, what'sthe point of the game?
The point of the game is to getpeople out.
You know, moving, fresh air,all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
So, yep, that's what we do and that's what we're
going to discuss as well today,rob.
And that is what.
What is the the good thingsabout munzee?
And for travel purposes,because this is travel podcast,
but it's guided by a love oflocation-based games, and so
what is the good travelcomponent of Munzee?
And that's what we'll get adeep dive into.
Very good discussion aboutMunzee.

(14:36):
But if you are brand new toMunzee and you've just
downloaded the app after pausingthis episode and you're having
a look, the only thing I'll sayis the square ones, they're the
ones that are physical.
The circle ones are the onesthat are virtual.
So that's all you really needto know to start with.
If you see it, you can captureit.
That's pretty much the onlyother thing.
As well, if you're a geocachingplayer and you're going oh,

(15:00):
I've heard about Munzee, or Iused to play Munzee years ago
and I don't do it anymore, haveanother look at Munzee.
It's very, very different.
I was in the same boat as you.
Three years ago.
I took up Munzee again and itwas very, very different
compared to what I'm, what I wasused to like.
You know 10 years ago, forinstance, what it was.
Munzee's been around for 14years now.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
So july birthday months for munzee?
Yeah, I assume this podcast isgoing out during our birthday
month.
It's like you planned it thatway, thank you for the
celebration.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very, very cool indeed, uh.
But unlike geocaching as well afew different munzees you can
actually capture them everysingle day and you can actually
set up your own own area, yourown walking paths and, as rob
just said before, there is avery big difference.
It's only 150 feet apart forphysicals, for your own walking
paths, and, as rob just saidbefore, there is a very big
difference.
It's only 150 feet apart forphysicals, for your own physical
, so you can put your ownphysical trail out there in your

(15:51):
local park area where you knowyou walk your dog around.
I mean, josh, you do it.
You walk life around yourneighborhood and I know when you
do, because I own those munsiesand I get.
I get points when you capturethem too.
So thanks for that.
So so that's that.
That's one good thing aboutMunzee, as opposed to the
geocaching world, whereby,geocaching, you find it once and
you're done, that's it, end ofstory.
Munzee, you can set it up to,whereby you can exercise daily

(16:16):
with a purpose, walk withpurpose.
It's the same as when I used tobe in Australia, rob and Josh
and I used to go kayaking.
Would I kayak just for theexercise.
No, I would have a fishing rodat the back, you see, with a
lure, and so I'd be kayakingwith the lure and next thing I'd
be catching fish.

(16:36):
So I'm exercising with apurpose.
I wouldn't go out just kayakingby itself.
That's boring.
No, I had a fishing rod at theend of the back, so it's the
same sort of thing.
So this time you use your, yourhandheld device, such as your
mobile phone, to capture it fromthere.
So uh, josh throwing to you now.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, rob.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh, I was gonna say I , I've been a geocacher since
2004, um, so I didn't startmunzee but, uh, you.
But I've been the president nowfor 12 years and the things
that we've built in in those 12years are some of my favorite
pieces of geocaching.
We make a lot of changes, wechange things up regularly, and

(17:16):
so that's one of the things thatis similar to geocaching.
So if there are cachers outthere that have heard about it
but never, never, tried it, um,it's actually not terrible and
it's not.
It's, it's not bad.
You can put three munsiesbetween where you know you are
in the next geocache, and ifyou're going, as you just said,
just on a, on a trail orwhatever, then you know why not.

(17:38):
If you're going out to domaintenance on your caches, then
you've got something that youcan do along the way.
So, yeah, sorry to jump in andinterrupt, but that triggered in
my brain that the fact that I'ma co-exister I'm top of the
chain on the Munzee side likethere's plenty of room to play

(17:58):
both games, so many more as well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I was just thinking.
The thing that I love about isis that it is so it can be so
simple and it can be so complex,yeah so so sometimes, you know,
with geocaching and this isn'ta geocaching versus munzee
argument, but, as you said, it'sit's it's find a container done
with munzee, it could be scan aqr code done, but not there's

(18:25):
deeper things in it, there'sdeeper gameplay.
That's why it's very similar toPokemon Go that way, from a
gameplay standpoint.
Munzee, you are always creatingand imagining new things to
keep it interesting and keep itfun for the players.
So it is a real hybrid of ofgameplay, but also outside

(18:47):
outside adventure andexploration.
So it kind of has the best ofboth worlds, which I love, I
love, I love.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
The fact as well is that they're very different in
terms of like with geocaching,you know, um, I'm on coming up
to what I'm coming to 16 000finds, uh, very, very soon.
You know I, but I wouldn't evenhave a clue about how many, rob
you, how many you you found.
Josh, I don't have a clue howmany you found.
I think, because of your videos, you're coming up to 10,000
finds, but, either way, to me,the amount of finds that the

(19:12):
three of us have, it doesn'treally, you know, it's not in
the forefront of my mind, munzee.
However, when it comes to thepoints and the competition side
of things, um, if you're not amunzee player, then yes, I've
joined the munzee team, I'mproudly part of the uh, the
munzee team itself, and rob wasthe when I say was, I'm talking
about was, as in last week, hewas the number one staff member

(19:34):
and had been since he integrated12 years ago into munzee.
In terms of the points, well,not any more.
So I've, uh, I've managed to goout, have a hard few weeks and
uh, and managed to climb aboverobin the points tally of the
staff.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So I am now the number one staff member still
stings and I will still, fromyou, know this humble place of
second, the first loser place, Iwill say congratulations once
again yeah, yeah, you've you.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
You put all the work in, so that's how it goes but
again, as I said before, that'sthe difference, uh, between
munzee and geocaching as well.
Munzee is very much about, uh,competition, gameplay.
You know, uh, you go to amunzee event, for instance, and
you, you don't mind, you're notbeing ignored, you can still
have a conversation, buteveryone's got their head in
their phone, capping, capping,capping, capturing all the
munzees everywhere, buteveryone's still talking.
So it's multi-use, whereas I goto a geocaching event and

(20:29):
finding a cache is the lastthing on my mind.
You know, for me it's all aboutthe socialising, and same with
you, joshua, as well Socialisingwhen you're around other people
in a geocaching event is muchmore different than a Munzee
event.
We'll just say that too.
Josh, do we want to start abouthow, how munzee can improve
your travel?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
yeah, you know what they say about geocaching it
takes you to the best places.
People say that all the time,and I believe it's the same way
with munzee.
But munzee, I think there'ssome things that are unique
about munzee that might even bedifferent than geocaching.
That is a benefit to travelers.
So I just thought it'd bereally interesting to talk about
some of the reasons munzee isso great for travel, and, after

(21:11):
all, that's what this podcast isabout.
It's not just about geocachingand travel, but it's about
location-based games.
So we have we have somethoughts.
Do, dare we say, 10 goodreasons why Munzee is great for
travelers, and we're just goingto riff right off of them and
talk about.
Talk about that today.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Number 10, we'll start from number 10 all the way
down is go global gameplay.
So the global gameplay it talksabout how this is actually all
over the world, worldwide.
It also talks about as well howby, how by, we have friends in
Munzee.
We call them clan mates andwhatever.
I'm not going too deep, but youhave friends all over the world,

(21:53):
and so what you can do as wellis you can deploy a virtual
Munzee on the other side of theworld in your friend's backyard,
if you want to, to help themaccomplish any goals they need
to do, whether it be daily ormonthly goals and tasks that
they require.
So it is a global gameplay typeevent too, so you can put them

(22:14):
anywhere, anywhere around theworld, whether I mean you can
put them in the middle of theocean, you can absolutely
physically, you can, orvirtually, you can put them in
the middle, whether they getthey're not going to get any
captures, so it's a waste oftime, but you can do it, rob.
There's, there's no real placethat's out of bounds, is there,
rob, for uh, for global gameplay?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
you know, there actually used to be complaints
about some virtuals that weredeployed in area 51 that no one
could reach and no one could capand and they're like, why, why
are people putting them outthere?
And I said to those people stopcomplaining.
They're like why, why arepeople putting them out there?
And I said to those people stopcomplaining.
They're allowed to put avirtual Munzee out there.
They're not going to get anypoints.
But if they want to say, hey,aliens, cap this Cool, go for it

(22:54):
.
Like, guess what you can't doin geocaching?
You cannot put a geocache inArea 51.
Like, that is not possible.
No, thank you sir.
So the you know that that's oneof the cool things that happens
here, the and while there isn'treally like a hey, let's do
Munzee versus geocaching, andthere there are comparisons

(23:15):
because of you know the audiencethat you guys have the thing
about munzee that's different interms of global, global
gameplay, oops, um is the factthat you can actually deploy a
munzee physically anywherearound the world.
So if you go to a place, thatmeans something to you.
Some, some overlook some, youknow, whatever, um, I've got a

(23:38):
couple of munzees in kawaii thatyou know I, I may never have
the chance to go back there andmaintain them, but I put them
there because it was just like aspecial scene and you know why?
I was there A geocache.
I didn't put it at the exactsame spot as the geocache, but I
was taken to like the Queen'sBath, like this really cool

(24:01):
place, and it was like there'snot a Munzee here.
Oh now there is like thisreally cool place, and it was
like there's not a muncie here.
Oh now there is, um, and youknow, so you have the
opportunity to like put, putthem anywhere.
The community is actually, uh,partially responsible to help
with the maintenance of thesethings as the game grows.
So that's uh, that's somethingthat I enjoy about the global

(24:26):
piece of it as far as gameplaygoes.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I will correct you on one circumstance, rob, and that
is you can't physically put aMunzee in a private property or
location, or in an airporteither.
That's true, you can't go ontosomeone's private property and
actually place a Munzee there,and you can't go and place a
physical Munzee in an airport.
You can place virtual Munzeesin an airport and you will find

(24:49):
that airports, train stations,any big travel hub location it
is absolutely chock a block fullof munzees.
I mean, airports themselves arehuge for munzees too, because
you think about it, if you'reyou're traveling and you've got
a layover somewhere, you've gottwo or three hours.
You're not just going to go tothe bar and pay you know, 15 for
a beer.
Uh, you can actually walkaround, get some exercise and

(25:11):
walk through the terminals andand capture all these monsies
and uh and all the points, andyou'll see points skyrocket as
well.
So that's a good part of thatglobal gameplay, josh there.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
that is a great point , rob, about that, about that,
even the physical ones, becausethere's something about leaving
something physical where youhave been that you thought is
really cool, and there is somesort of satisfaction that after
you visited something, even likethree years ago, and you put a
physical Munzee there to see,somebody was there and they
experienced the same thing youdid, because they capped that

(25:42):
little sticker.
I don't know what it is, butthere's just something about
sharing, sharing, sharing thatwith them.
They probably didn'tnecessarily go there because
there was a munzee there, maybe,but they probably went there
because it was a cool spot.
And then, like, oh gosh, we, wejust I put one on top of the
monmouth falls, that that bigdouble waterfall in oregon at

(26:03):
the top, and every once in awhile that thing gets capped and
I think, oh my gosh, thatperson got that same view as I
did.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah.
And you know you can put apicture on there of you being
there and even encourage thesame thing from others, and so
you know you get to relive that.
But you also get to see itduring different seasons, which
is kind of cool.
Lake Louise, for example, isone where, um, where I took
Louise, my wife, um and uh andput physicals out there, and so

(26:33):
we've capped it when the lakewas frozen, cause it was January
, and I have some pictures fromother people who've capped it
with this, the bluest waterbecause it's a glacier, with the
bluest water because it's aglacier and man, it's like the
coolest stuff to see and just torelive and globally have it
absolutely anywhere, which isreally fun.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
That is cool and that segues directly into the next
one, rob, too, which is built-insightseeing too.
So, built-in sightseeing.
So, as you said before, munzeeis normally placed near points
of interest landmarks, trails,art, installations, all that
sort of thing.
Like, as you just said, josh,you put them in different
locations.
Where you go, you know what.
This is a really cool locationand you've got a memory from it

(27:14):
there as well.
So, built-in sightseeing, but Iwill say, not just traveling
purposes, but but this is goingback over 12 months ago now.
I was in New Jersey.
Quick story it was in NewJersey.
I found a seagull with a brokenwing.
It's broke, snapped in half.
The wing was snapped in halfand the bone was sticking out.
Anyway, I grabbed the seagull.
I couldn't drive and I said atthe time you know I need to get

(27:36):
to a vet.
Where's the nearest vet?
I took him to the nearest vet.
Of course, there was a point ofinterest as a vet on the Munzee
app that I'd been capturingevery single day for a year, so
I knew exactly where the localvet was to assist with the
seagull.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So points of interest as well is what I'm talking
about Saving the lives of birds,one bird at a time.
Who knew?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Through Munzee, through the help of Munzee.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I actually didn't even know that story.
That's really funny.
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yep, yep, that was the one in New Jersey.
So there we go Built-insightseeing, josh.
We'll get back to built-insightseeing, what you just said
before too.
So I will go on and say that alot of people who listen to the
show, they do geocache.
They do love their statisticsand stuff as well.
There is a statistics in Munzeefor when you place a physical

(28:26):
Munzee in a location.
So you can have your wholeentire map done.
So you can place physicalMunzees in every state of the US
and it shows you which states,it tells you how many countries
you've placed Munzees.
So when you go away on trips,you know I went to England, for
instance, and I was there withRob and I placed a few Munzees,
physical ones.
Uh, they count towards all yourstatistics as well.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So I do love the stats, josh yeah, there is
something satisfying about aboutplacing something physical in a
place that, like you, might notever get back to again.
So, like last summer, I went tovenice, italy, and I was like,
oh my gosh, I'm in italy, I needto put a munzee here, because I
certainly can't hide a geocache, no, so, so in can't.
And Venice, oh my gosh, what abeautiful, beautiful city.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, I even placed one, a physical one as well
physical as you walk across theborder in Niagara Falls, along
Rainbow Bridge, there when youwalk from the US into Canada,
because sometimes it gets a bitof a queue up that line, and so
I placed a couple of physicalsin the queue.
So if you're there waiting inthe queue, then why not like, oh
, there's a munzee around hereand around the corner and there

(29:29):
you go, so you can actually playthe game while you're
physically there as well.
So, yeah, again same sort ofthing.
And one of them was actually incanada.
So I get my little canada, mycanada badge or souvenir,
whatever you call it, or just ajust a statistic.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, sightseeing, rob anything else you've got on
sightseeing before we move on I,I think that you know, you guys
have nailed it it um, there aredifferent types of munsies that
you can put out.
You know so that, uh, sothere's a base one called the
greenie, which you know is alower value, but it's also free,
um, and so, taking those typesand putting them out in

(30:05):
different locations, like Joshsaid, in um, italy, which you
know, that that's cool.
If that one goes missing, thenyou uh, you know it's sad, but
but it's just one of thosethings that, yeah, that happens.
Um, you can put them togetheras a little bit of a tour, um,
if there aren't any in alocation that you go and visit,

(30:26):
you know.
So it's like here's, here's aplace where I went because of
whatever tour book, because ofgeocaching, whatever it may be,
so you could actually leadfuture munzee players on a tour
around town as far as here's acouple of different hot spots,
so definitely useful for that.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, I have another thing to say about that, because
I you mentioned trails.
It makes me think of the trailmunsies.
You know a lot of people think,oh, the munsie is mainly a,
like an urban game, and so, uh,sometimes, uh, you can put these
trail munsies out and you, youcap it physically and then you
don't see the next one until youcap the first one, and then it

(31:04):
takes you on a trail, like apath, or all the way around a
lake or whatever.
So, yeah, there are someMunsies that are actually
designed for nature trails.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, I love that one too, josh, I really do.
There's some special ones outthere.
When you talk about the naturetrails, etc.
There is a special nature trailtrail and rob can enhance this
one as well whereby, uh, I thinkwas the local girl guides.
Uh, they came towards rob andsaid look, you know, we want to
try and do this, this trail, andsame sort of thing where you do
a cap one and it shows you thenext one, then it shows you the

(31:36):
next one as you go along and youget an actual special badge and
there's only one of thesetrails in the entire world and,
yes, I have done it as well.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
So spartanburg, south carolina yeah absolutely so.
Yeah, um girl scout, you know,contacted um me and parents, you
know big munzee players, and sowe're both of their daughters.
But, um, yeah, we just weworked out, uh, how to do it
together and so she did it aspart of her.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Uh, big, you know, end project basically for girl
scouts and um, that was maybeeight or ten years ago that we
built it and because it'svirtual, um it's never going
away, it's it's there for anyoneto get and, uh, pretty cool
little walk yeah, oh, in actualfact, I was was there last year
as part of my tour as well, andI went there purely because of

(32:27):
that, and it was after they hadthe hurricane through that
ripped through South Carolina,and so there was mud everywhere,
there was trees that were down.
It wasn't in good shape, butthe thing is, as you said, rob,
because they're virtual, so itstill stays around.
It doesn't matter what weatherhappens.
I mean, if that happens, evenwith a physical Munzee, then

(32:49):
it's going to be a missing.
If it happens with a geocache,it's going to be flooded and
gone.
So the virtual side of this wasactually really cool, which,
again, look at you guys, in yoursegue that leads into number
three, which is encouragesexploration as well.
So look at you when explorationas well.
So look at you, um, when itencourages exploration.
It says about, uh, sticking tothe tourist traps as well.
So, rather than sticking to thetourist traps, you can go and

(33:10):
encourage you to walk further,take side streets, see what's
around the corner, um, andexplore parts of the town or
area that you wouldn'tordinarily go to, because you do
have to be physically within acertain radius in order to
capture these munsies too.
So, joshua, what have you got?
Have you, have you explored anyparts of towns etc through
muncie that you went hang on asecond?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
yeah, I remember actually when I was in I think
it was foley um alabama when wewere down there for bama rama, I
think we were just finishing upthe muncie event and I just had
some extra time and then Inoticed, oh my gosh, there's a
trail of munzees that go all theway through the downtown.
I don't think I would havewalked and checked out the whole
downtown area if I hadn't had,like you know, munzee after

(33:52):
munzee on each of those lamppoles.
So that is totally true, that,like it will encourage you to
maybe branch out farther orsomewhere different that you
wouldn't otherwise.
I I think Adventure Labs alsois another example that kind of
do that as well.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Exactly exactly.
We're going to move on now tothe number fourth, one, which is
the lightweight and digital.
Now it's always in the palm ofyour hand.
It's just literally a phone, amobile phone device, whether it
be Android or whether it beApple iPhones.
No GPS devices.
This doesn't work on a GPSdevice.
No other physical items tocarry.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
No pens to carry, josh wow, no pen, you don't need
a pen.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
No pen required, wow so it says that it's actually
perfect for traveling becauseyou can pack a lot, because
everyone has a mobile phone withthem.
So that's all you need.
I mean, obviously, if you dohave some stickers, if you want
to replace, because you canreplace them, if they're some
stickers if you want to replace,because you can replace them if
they're missing, um, if you'recertain levels, then you can
that bring some stickers withyou.

(34:51):
But otherwise you don't evenneed to do that.
You just literally capture itand move on, or if it's not
there, you just move on into thenext one.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
So I mean people that are really into munzee.
They have these swanky fannypacks that is designed.
And I believe you can get themon the Munzee website.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true, Absolutely true,and I believe a really good
looking gentleman was the onethat created those ones too.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, with the guy with the strange accent.
Yeah, came in and was like, hey, I can, hey, I can build some
cool designs for you.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
And I was like, all right, and then turns out again,
yeah, no, but honestly though,guys, let's be honest, it's just
a mobile phone, that's all youneed.
You don't need anything else.
As before, you don't even needa pen.
You know so when you, how manytimes, josh, have you gone to a
geocache and you're like there'sno pen?
How many times?
Yeah happens every single timefor you.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I also was thinking about my kids.
I think my kids, when they werein junior high age, they were
way more into Munzee for aperiod of time because they
liked the tech aspect of it.
It's almost just moreaccessible in some ways when you
just have a phone and that'sall you need.

(36:04):
So I just remember Jonah inparticular, my middle child.
Uh, he was like for a goodperiod of time he was into
Munzee more than anything elsejust because he just liked.
I think kids just like thingsthat they, things that they can
do on their phone.
You know the tech part of it.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
The, the quick, responsive time of it as well.
You scan the Munzee, boom,here's your score.
Now you're moving on, you'regoing 50 feet away to cap the
next one.
Or, if they're virtual, you'resitting in one place and you're
getting a bunch and then you'removing to the next spot.
But you see your score go upand, depending on what type it

(36:40):
is, you can actually have acompetition, like you know we
have on weekends, whenever we'reall together where you know we
may all be capping the exactsame stuff, but sometimes you
get different points from it.
So builds in a little naturalcompetition and you don't have
to keep track of those scoreslike the act does it and you

(37:00):
boom, you go right on through.
There's a daily leader, allthose types of things, and
that's the tech.
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Exactly Moving on now , something for everyone.
Now, this is what we weretalking about before as well.
In regards to Josh, you weresaying, with the children, even
to the older generation as well.
It does get them out there, andthat too.
But when you're talking aboutthings like either the physical
walking, you know, walking downyour trails and and your park

(37:31):
areas and stuff as well, but,but, josh, I like it and I've
built one of these for you,joshua, and that is and that is,
and that is a munzee garden.
They call them gardens inmunzee, whereas in geocaching
they call it geo art, whereas inmunzee they call them gardens
in Munzee, whereas in geocachingthey call it geo art, whereas
in Munzee they call them gardens.
The difference is Munzee youcan put them really closer
together and they come in alldifferent colors.

(37:52):
There's 58 different colors,Sixty-four colors.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Sixty-four, close enough, and it's the names from
the not-sponsored Crayola crayonbox.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Those are the names of the virtual colors.
I never knew that.
That's how you got them.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Macaroni and cheese virtual.
It's because it's the samecolor as macaroni and cheese.
Wow, the crayon.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
But you can create these virtually.
You can create them anywhereall over the world, as long as
they don't interrupt with anyother virtual munsies themselves
.
And yeah, you can do that.
Josh, I did for you a littlepresent, for you a little gift.
When you, when you reached yourbiggest milestone, the
milestone you've been lookingfor for over 12, 13 years, when
you hit 100 000 followers onyoutube, I, uh, I built a silver

(38:37):
play button for you.
Yeah, right near your house too.
So cool, yeah, very cool, yeahso it's very different.
So, yeah, I love, I love the,the virtual gardens as well.
So what do you think about them, josh?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
yeah, and I, I, these are all.
These topics are kind ofcrossing over a little bit, but
I think about just think aboutdeploying things right for
people.
For you as a traveler, I just Ithink it's so fun.
You are as a van lifer, you'rein a different place all the
time, so people can see whereyou are.
You wake up in the morning inyour cracker barrel and people
have dropped Munzees right onyou Every single day yeah, and

(39:13):
you might think oh, that's awaste, because only he's going
to cap it.
But the cool thing about Munzeeis that some of the Munzees that
you deploy that are virtual,they're temporary, so they're
only there for a week or they'reonly there for a month, and so
it's just a way to be like hey,traveler, friend, I see you.
I appreciate you.

(39:33):
Here's a little something.
Here's a little somethingsomething for you to cap.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Exactly, and I'm going to bring it back as well
to one of Rob's soul points aswell.
To one of Rob's soul points, andthat is recently, a couple
months ago, we had a Rob versusCraig month-long event whereby
Munzee players all over theworld could support either Rob
or could support Craig one ofthe two and they were deploying
things like they were deployingCraigs or Robs or you know, and

(40:02):
the amount of cards and Craigstuff that I got that I could
cap from other people everysingle day at all, my rest stops
or my cracker barrels orwherever I stay in that
particular night.
Um, all I needed to do was I'dplace one out saying, yep, this
is my rest stop for the night.
People would look and they'dmunzee stalk, it's called, and
they'd look at you and lookwhere, where your recent deploy

(40:23):
was, they go yep, craig's there,so I'll put, uh, put my stuff
there near craig.
And and the reason why it's asore point for rob, because he
again, he lost that one as well,just like he lost the lead and
everything else I mean, it'sbeen a rough.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's been a rough couple of months for me in terms
of munzee leadership.
You know they can't lead theteam in terms of gameplay
anymore, but that's all right,so you know.
What else you did, though, isyou're talking about the nice
side of your gameplay.
You also took the gameplay in anegative way for me by getting
all of your people to deployyour things around me, so that

(40:58):
when I capped them, it gave yourteam points.
It was brilliant, you, you, youorganized them well.
So when're when you say there'ssomething for everyone, there
literally is something foreveryone we call it play your
way.
Yes, that doesn't mean cheatyour way, that means play your
way.
We have a code of conduct, andyou know we give you some
guidelines and then, literally,if you are one that wants to

(41:22):
only go to cool places and dophysical fine, you know QR codes
, cool, you can do that you canactually turn off all the
virtual stuff.
If you absolutely hate physicalstuff, if you can't, you know,
go walking.
If you can't do those things,then you can turn on only the
virtuals.
So, yeah, yeah, it's adaptableto absolutely everyone.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Exactly, and I love it as well when we talk about it
can be done by yourself.
You can do it as couples.
You can do it as families, withyour kids and stuff as well.
You know, if every member ofthe family has their own account
.
You can even do things like youknow yourself and your partner
and you go.
Okay, whoever gets the mostpoints today has to cook dinner,
you know or has to clean thebathroom.

(42:06):
You know stuff like that too, soyou know you can do all that
sort of thing, play it your wayand enjoy it that way too.
Moving on now, it is actuallyquick to play.
So, whether you've got fiveminutes between stops, or a
whole afternoon or an entire day, or, like me, it's my life now,
it adapts to your schedule.
Like me, it's my life now, itadapts to your schedule.
And this is where we're talkingabout great for airport

(42:28):
layovers.
You know, lunch breaks, roadtrip stops, stuff like that too.
Very similar to geocaching,whereby when you go to rest
stops Now, josh, we spoke aboutrest stops last episode as well
the great bathrooms.
If you haven't listened to that, I suggest you pause this now
and go back and listen to thegreat toilet humor we had.
But, yeah, yeah, like we saidbefore, in the rest stops,
whereby there's always going tobe, you know, physical geocaches

(42:50):
to find, there's normally one,possibly two, because they have
to be a fair distance apart, uh,but the amount of virtuals, but
also physicals, in rest stopswill get you out, stopping the
car outside the car, walkingaround, refreshing yourself,
refreshing yourself again, whichagain, is a perfect thing for
safety as well.
So it is very quick to play,whether you've got just a rest
break like that or you've got anentire day, it's up to you.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, I'll say this when I was traveling with the
family, when I was just playinggeocaching, especially at the
rest stops, the geocaches oftentook me a little bit more time.
That would annoy my family, belike where's dad?
He's in the bathroom for a longtime and the Munzees are much

(43:32):
quicker, typically much moreaccessible, and it just it
scratches that geo-itch.
So you don't feel like thatrest stop was a complete waste.
If you have to skip thegeocache, yeah yeah, I like the
geo- goh, I like that that is agood.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
That's a good term.
I like that.
We'll use that.
Speaking of which, I'm goingthat way now and I haven't even
got any ticks today, but anyway,it's.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
It's that way, on purpose, to built quick to play,
just so that you know you, youdon't have to disrupt life, like
you can be with a group ofpeople who are not interested in
, in playing um Munzee and ifyou're not driving, then
everywhere that that you're inthe car you can be playing the
virtual game just as you'removing.

(44:16):
And at the same time, wheneverthey stopped to go and get the
geocache, you know you can.
You can participate in thegeocache as well and we did.
We did this while we were in,you know, west virginia.
I was there with you guys tofind every geocache.
I I didn't um activelyparticipate in the finding piece
of all of them, uh, because Iwas deploying a munzee, I was,

(44:36):
you know, doing that littlepiece.
Um, like I said earlier, thethe fact that when you scan it,
you've got that quick responseof here's the points and it's
that that little adrenaline rushof okay, I found that one, now
where's the next one?
And you've got five minutes.
You can move quickly around asmall area.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, yeah.
And again, rob, perfectlymoving on again, look at you.
It's like you're reading theshow notes to some degree, it
talks about rewards on the road.
Now, when you were sayingbefore, rob in the car, road
trips in the car can besomething very, very different.
Now, instead of you being therewith the kids, for instance,
and the kids either crying oryou have to make sure the kids

(45:14):
are watching a TV show or amovie or something like that too
, the kids have got their owndevices.
Most of the roads themselvesthat I've found have plethora of
virtual munsies placed all theway across every single highway
at least in the USA anyway, atminimum that literally you can
just capture, capture, capture,capture as you go along, because

(45:37):
you have to physically be there, but within 300 to 500 feet,
for instance, of most of them,and so they're a lot easier to
play that way on the road.
I enjoy on road trips like thattoo.
So, josh, what about yourself,mate, on the road?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
well, I do love the badges.
I love earning badges.
This comment is in form of,possibly a request.
Um, one of the things I do loveabout geocaching are the
souvenirs, especially the statesouvenirs.
Knowing that, like these arethe states that I have found
geocaches in, I would lovesomething like that munzee where
I'd be like I have found aphysical munzee in this state is

(46:11):
that was.
That'd be something cool.
I don't know, that's the, I'mjust putting it out.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
There you are in a 14 year long request line.
That is something before Ijoined the team that I was
telling them.
I'm like you know what's abrilliant idea.
This is what you need to do.
The trouble with it is, if youdo it for all the us states,
then do you have to break downall of the uh provinces and

(46:38):
counties and all of the thingsin all the countries, or do you
just claim favoritism and justtell people yeah well, we're
us-based, sorry, um all thecountries.
I know Right, but now I, now Ilive in the UK, so it's kind of
like, well, we have to do atleast England and the U?

(46:58):
S anyway, we, I can tell youthat we have the data.
So that's the good news.
The bad news is because, uh,we're a changing game, so often
it's taking the time to slowdown and to put that information
in and then start deliveringthe badges, the artwork that's
not even a part.
That would take forever, youknow.
So it is possible.

(47:26):
Wouldn't it be nice if,everywhere that you drove, craig
, um, you were able to pick upall of those States?
Because I know that the threeof us, you know, uh, enjoy the
souvenirs that we pick up, um,as we travel.
So we get those for everycountry.
Um, I, I've got, like, I thinkI'm in 44 States in the U S, so
I'm almost completed with thewhole thing and it matters to me
.
So when you ask for that, josh,I get it.

(47:47):
Like that's a reward that Iwant too.
I want to document all theplaces that I have been within
the game of Munzee.
I can do it in geocaching.
Already I'm in charge.
I should be able to do this.
Not yet, though.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
But it's true.
In regards to rewards.
I mean, you look at, and whenwe talk about rewards, people
say you know, what do you getfor playing these games with a
big geocache?
What do you get out of ageocache, you know?
Like just the fun of it.
But the rewards we're talkingabout is the digital souvenirs,
the ones that don't need dusting, for instance, as well, and we
like all of our souvenirs, Imean all three of us as well.

(48:24):
We are on Untapped, which is abeer drinking app for like beer
Facebook basically, and you getbadges for that too.
So when we're out at a brewery,the three of us are at a
brewery and we're logging ourbeers, we're looking at which
you know new souvenirs we'regoing to get, and then we share
them around with each other aswell.
Oh, have you got this one?
Have you got this one?
So souvenirs in general are avery, very cool idea and a good

(48:46):
reward as well.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Well, there's something I learned about
untapped Craig that we learnedwhen we were traveling together
is that it's location-based.
So in the premium version youhave a heat map of all the
places that you have drank beersand, like whoa, that place
you've drank a lot of beers at,I don't know that.
That's just.
That's just cool.
Sorry side note, we might haveto have an untapped episode at

(49:10):
some point well, we might haveto reach out untapped.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yes, yes, yes, I want to I want to talk to.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I want to talk to them too, please, please, can I
come back and join in?
I know that tim would love tobe part of that as well.
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, wow,exactly so one more thing about
rewards is we actually have onthis podcast right now the
number one reward earner in theentire Munzee universe and it's

(49:37):
not busy we actually havereferral rewards, so you get not
only points for the referrals.
So to all of you who've scannedjosh's referral code over all
the years, thank you on hisbehalf because you've earned him
so many points, including yes,lovely craig, you are one of his

(49:58):
referrals and I know that, andI'm really happy that you joined
because of him.
This whole thing, thing is allbecause of you.
Know what Josh did back in theday, so you receive actual
credit in everything.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
The online store right Financial Financial credit
.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
That is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
That's a Munzee flex right there.
I can't think of anybody elsethat really does, that I mean
yeah, pokemon Go kind of rewardsa little bit, but it's
different, it's different.
There's some serious good stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
And when I say as well that I am, I am one of
josh's referrals.
So, uh, I remember when first,josh, you did a video years and
years ago about it and you putthe referral co-op, uh, I, I
downloaded trails in australia,so I downloaded straight away,
got my referral code from you, Igot points, you got points
unbeknownst to me then.
Then I was gonna, you know, 10years down the track I was
actually gonna work for muncie,but Munzee, but Josh, I looked

(50:56):
at your points yesterday.
Yeah, and you are welcome, sir,because one third of your
entire points from yesterdaywere from me capturing my Munzee
.
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yesterday was a busy day and it wasn't a busy day
playing Munzee.
No, no, thanks for being beforeme.
I keep propping you up.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I prop you up, man, I prop you up.
I prop you up, man, I prop youup.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
All right, okay speaking of referral codes, so
every podcast has the artworkfor that podcast.
Yes, we will put a referralcode.
So if you have never put Munzee, we encourage you to cap that
referral code.
I don't know whose referralcode it will be.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
We might have to arm wrestle for it.
No, no, it's yours.
It for it, but no, it's yours.
It's yours, josh.
I'll put yours there becauseyou've got to stay.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I don't need anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I don't need anymore extend the lead man and extend
the lead exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Uh, next up, we have connecting to your locals, so
very much like like geocaching,whereby you can host events as
well.
You can host munzee events andthey were saying before, they're
very, very different to yourgeocaching events in terms of
you know, yes, you can meet upand as well you can talk a
little about Munzees and you cantalk about.
You know, oh, did you capturethis one, did you capture that
one?
Or you can talk.
What I like to talk about isthe different ways to play

(52:06):
Munzee, or different strategies.
You strategize with Munzeebecause capturing a greenie, 20
points, that's it.
But if you capture a greeniewhilst you're activating a
booster, for instance, then it'sfour is double the points.
If you're capturing greeniewhen it's on double point
weekend and you're using abooster, then it's 80 points.
It's like there's strategy inthis.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
You're going deep now .

Speaker 3 (52:26):
You're going deep I know, I know, I know, I know,
sorry, sorry, and josh alreadyhad his colonoscopy this morning
.
Anyway, there we go.
I know right, um, but what I'msaying is that strategy in this
game is a big part of the game,and I know players out there who
reached out to me and saidthat's the favorite part of

(52:47):
munzee is the strategy to it aswell.
So when you connect with locals, you connect with other players
and you can talk to them aboutwhat strategies they use in
regards to munzee too and thatreally goes for, I mean, any
location-based game.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
The people I know that really are the diehards
that really get into any ofthese games are the people that
go to events, because that's howyou learn, that's how you learn
how to do things.
To have somebody sitting nextto you and walking side by side
and saying, by the way, this isthis like.
I remember when I had this bigaha, when, like, like there was,
I'm going semi-deep this is oldbut deep when somebody saw a

(53:21):
motel and I capped it andthey're like, you know, if
you're the first five personpeople that cap that motel,
you're virtually inside thatmotel and I was like what?
Like, yeah, the next timesomebody caps that, you get
points too.
I'm like what, I didn't evenput it there, that's amazing.
So it was like aha moment, butthat wouldn't have not happened
unless it was for, like, anevent, exactly.

(53:41):
So get to the events If youwant to learn get to events and
Rob you tell us as well.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I was going to say Rob, but I'm going to leave this
into you as well, because, rob,you're married to Lou and Lou
is a proud part of the Munzeeteam and she's the one that's
actually in charge of all eventsas well.
So tell us, in regards to thecake credits, to a certain
degree, without going too deep,but basically, you can walk
around with other people playingMunzee and you earn credits

(54:08):
that you can then rewardyourself within parts of the
game as well.
So that's another thing you doas part of the events.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Go to an event.
What I was going gonna say isjuly, this, this july is going
to be, uh, probably our mostpopular month, uh, of events, um
, and there's multiple reasonsfor that.
But, uh, birthday month.
There's a lot of stuff going on.
So, um, start playing wednesday.
If you're already playingwednesday, look at the event

(54:36):
calendar, uh, see if there's onearound you and, um, chances are
pretty decent that uh, biggeocaching events.
There's probably going to besome munzee players and an event
there, um, so, yeah, uh, louruns all the events and, uh,
over the years, we've talkedabout ways to reward the event
hosts for the work that they do,and part of that turned into, I

(55:02):
guess two years ago or lastyear, this cake idea, and we've
kind of taken it and run with it.
So you earn these credits thatyou're able to redeem in an
online store to get differentgame pieces that bounce all
around the world.
So, like I said about theunicorns that are in the game,

(55:22):
the dragons, well, these aredifferent types.
These are balloon animals.
There's a bunch of crazy stuffthat happens in the game, but
the absolute best part of it allis going to those events and
meeting other local people andhearing about their stories, and
that's what I love to do.

(55:43):
I love to hear why people cameinto Munzee, what has changed
for them since they've been in,and, hey, what are your ideas,
what would you love to see?
Because we're always lookingfor what's that next thing going
to be?
And yeah, sometimes it happens,but that happens some through

(56:04):
Facebook groups and some of thatkind of stuff, but that's not
necessarily that local group.
Those events is what brings alocal community together and
that's the easiest way for youto grow the map and to expand
your own areas is either havingan event or attending one and
meeting up with local people.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Yeah, yeah, the last two on the list as well.
One talks about encouragingroad trips.
I think we've kind ofdiscovered that as well, when it
comes to encouraging the roadtrips, like capturing along the
road, especially with, as I saidbefore, the kids in the back,
et cetera as well.
And then the last one wasmemory making, which you touched
on as well, josh, when you'retalking about how you're putting

(56:45):
a physical sticker on awaterfall not on a waterfall,
but nearby a waterfall in abeautiful area, et cetera as
well.
So that were the lists that wegot for the whole app or the
whole show, josh.
What do you think about those?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I think they're great .
I think, all theselocation-based games go
hand-in-hand.
They can coexist.
We play them together.
It is a lot of fun.
When we went to Geo Woodstockthere were four Munzee players.
We were all together.
It's just something fun whenwe're all together and there's
this, yeah just something funwhen we're all kind of playing
the same game but then alsocoexisting with a really awesome

(57:23):
geocaching event like that wasthe highlight of my uh year so
far.
Was was hanging out with youall at Geo Woodstock and uh
socializing but and just andplaying, playing both games and
having fun.
Yeah, I just think this gameenhances my life and I just

(57:44):
really appreciate, rob, and youas well, craig, that you put all
the work into making this funand changing it and
communicating it out every weekon your podcast, which is also a
lot of fun.
You guys do a great job because, yes, with a game that's
constantly changing, it needsthe communication needs to be
often and frequent.

(58:04):
That's the same word.
It needs to be frequent.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yes, and and then that's true, and and yeah,
there's totally different peopleout there.
Some people are very visuallearners, other people are audio
learners.
People are very visual learners, other people are audio
learners, other people, uh, youknow, want to read it and stuff
like too.
So every week there does come ablog, uh, out from the munzee
team as well.
The blog comes out and tellsyou what's going on, etc.
As well.
But, uh, as I said, rob and Iwe try, and we try and humanize

(58:28):
it a little bit and put it interms, and it's only 30 minutes
every single week.
And, uh, and josh, you yourself, you, I think you, you haven't
played munzee as much as youhave in the last, since the last
four years, I think last threeor four years, since I've been
back into it as well.
I think you've jumped back intoit too, especially since the
podcast has come out, becauseyou listen to it on your way to

(58:48):
work, josh, every week yeah,that's true.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
And I guess another thing too that motivates me is I
have a really awesome uh clan,which is your team.
Yeah, you can join teams inMunzee too and you can work
together to reach goals.
And everybody on my team orclan, we live in the same area
so we hang out together and wehave fun together.
So that also motivates you.
It's like, oh gosh, I don'twant to let my team down.

(59:12):
So that's another thing.
I think that there's lots ofmotivators to play, and that's
another one too.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Exactly, Rob.
Any final thoughts for youbefore we wrap it up and close
it out.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Well, I would like to say to everyone who's listening
is if you ever have the chanceto meet these two guys, you need
to ask them for their Munzee.
They both have a special uniquebadge that the only way you can
get it in the game of Munzee isby meeting the two of them.
So obviously I've got one aswell, but that's beside the

(59:44):
point.
The two of you.
We put Josh into this game,back in at Geo Woodstock in
Cincinnati, the first gig ofstock.
I mean, right, the firstgigastar 2018.
I mean, right, we, we had aspecial event and, like you
stood up on a bench and, like wewere, we were um, we were

(01:00:05):
guerrilla marketing at thatpoint in time with basically
glow-in-the-dark burn your eyeshirts right and and and josh,
the most prolific face, andgeocaching, you know youtubing
and all of that, and it's like,yeah, he's in Munzee, everybody
play Munzee please.
And you know, then now, now youknow, craig, before you even

(01:00:26):
really came into the team, kindof brought you along and you
were helping me out so muchoutside the team unofficially
that you know we gave we gaveyou a lot of those perks as well
and uh, so, yeah, I, I reallyappreciate what you two have
both done for Munzee over theyears and, uh, you know just the
friendship and the travel thatwe have and the memories that we

(01:00:50):
have made um collectively anduh, you know, like Josh said,
gio Woodstock this year man,that's like the highlight.
You know.
This is Geo Woodstock this year.
Man, that's like the highlight.
You know.
This is, this is what you guysdo on this podcast is like it's
the coolest stuff, you know that, that any of us get to do and
you get to talk about it witheach other and then everybody
else listens in.
I love it too and I really Iappreciate what you guys are

(01:01:13):
doing for all of the locationbased gaming community and for
everyone out there listening.
So, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Thank you, rob, thank you and Josh.
We've spoken about this beforeOur number one, very first
episode, we talked about birthin a hot tub, because this show,
this Treasures of Our Town, wasbirthed in the hot tub.
That very same hot tub, thatvery same night that the
Treasures of Our Town wasbirthed, the discussion was
started as well for the munzeepodcast, so I was like I said

(01:01:41):
please, please, I want to bepart of this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
you guys like how can we, how can we do?
We're talking geocaching butwe're at a munzee event and like
, oh man, travel and no, I sowant to be part of all of this.
I appreciate that you'veincluded me now two times over
the last podcast.
Hopefully I can come back athird, please, and thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Absolutely, Absolutely.
But speaking of includingeveryone, Josh as well, we need
to include our patrons as well.
We're going to do a big shoutout to our patrons, and we've
got a brand new one as well overthe last week.
Do you know this patron?
Do you know them?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I don't know if I've met him personally, but he sent
us the nicest email this week Iknow, I know.
So our new patron is RyanPenman Nezmuk in the geocaching
world, probably the Munzee world.
He also said in his email thathe is playing Munzee as well.
He's getting into Munzee, but hesent us a really kind, awesome

(01:02:40):
uh email talking about helistens to everything, craig.
He listens to gcpc, the munzeepodcast.
He listens to this podcast.
Yeah, he's watched my videosfor years, so thank you so much,
ryan.
And something really cool aboutthe last episode we were
talking about the rest stops andat he was traveling get this.
He was traveling while he waslistening to it and when we got

(01:03:00):
to whatever number, it was theBear Lake Overlook in Utah,
guess what.
He was there, yes, yes, whilewe were talking about it and he
was like it's a sign.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
It's even better.
It's even better.
He placed a physical geocacheat that location as well, like
down off the actual off thatrest stop as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yes, so he wants to do like a where I go series
based on some of the stuff inTreasures of Our Town podcast
which is really cool, so we'llhave to talk a little bit more
about that.
But anyway, ryan, thank you somuch for sharing that email and,
of course, thank you forbecoming a patron.
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
And if people want to become patrons, josh as well,
just like Ryan how can they doit?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Yes, go to patreoncom , backslash treasures of our
town Inside.
There you will get behind thepaywall, as Scott Burke says,
behind the paywall there arejust delightful golden nuggets,
little bonus episodes of ourpodcast, sometimes bonus video.

(01:04:01):
But the biggest thing is thatyou are supporting this podcast,
helping us keep it going,helping us keep it ad-free, and
we really do appreciate it.
So join us over there atPatreon.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And if you want to just contact us in any way,
shape or form, josh, like Ryandid as well, how can they do it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yes, feel free to reach out to us at Treasures of
Our Town Podcast at gmailcom, oryou can follow us on facebook,
instagram, x, youtube or just goto our buzzsprout website.
Just search treasures of ourtown in google and there's a
little clicking link there andyou can message us there.
Just tell us who you are if youdo that that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
So that's it our show for today.
Please subscribe, rate andreview on your favorite podcast
game and, as always, j.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
May your travels always lead you to the most
unexpected and amazing hiddengems, where Cappy is hiding
behind every light pole whileyou play Munzee.
See you next time, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Josh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Josh, what Josh For?

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
the second episode in a row, no no no, no, no, no, I
didn't forget.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Did you forget you know what?
No, I didn't forget.
Did you forget?
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
What Rob.
I'm really proud of my game.
He's proud of his game.
He's proud of his game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And that's a rare thing these days.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
There we go.
Thanks everyone, Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Runsie home.