Comedian vs Comedic Actor: Who's Really Funny?

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SPEAKER_03 (00:17):
Alright, what's good?
What's great?
Welcome back to another episodeof the Trinity Trophies Podcast.
I'm here with the homies, uniqueartistry.

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Hey man, you sound tired as hell, bro.
Hey.

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Hey yo.
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That nigga sound like the end of a show and shit.
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Damn.

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Yes, indeed.
We're here.
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No.
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Nigga Quinn just started offjust.
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No.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09):
That nigga did not show up to the stage.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11):
Nigga did not pop in today, bro.
Nigga said, fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15):
I ain't gonna lie, you had me was good, was great.

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I was like, what?

SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
Two words.

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I ain't even wanna look over.
I ain't even want to look overat you, bro.
I was just like, shit.

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That's what we're gonna roll with.
Nigga refused to put his name onthis sitting.
Hey that's why you ain't heardnothing from me.

SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
I ain't wanna, I don't let you rock for a little
second.
Let him go.
Let him go.
Yeah, let him go.

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Bruh.
And I am I'm hella tired.
Let me get my look.
We good now.
Get them laughs out.

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Hey man.
That shit had me.

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It was good, it was great.

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No, bruh.
It wasn't even what's good,what's great.
He was like, what's good, what'sgreat.

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Reading out the monitor.

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Welcome back to the trenches, the trophies podcast.

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Cricket.

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Nigga, it's not even oh shit.
The young one gotta be weakthough, nigga.
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We're gonna all look back on this laugh one day.

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Literally, bro.
Hollering.
What's good?
Welcome back to another episodeof the True to Trophies Podcast.
It's your boy Ant, and I'm herewith my folks, Unique Artistry.
Yes, indeed.
And Monte Corleone.
How's it going, guys?
Hey man, you know what?
We're touching back on somethingthat uh obviously y'all enjoy,
right?
So we're gonna bring back up theconversation concerning the

(03:04):
Mount Rushmore.
Like, during that episode, wehad a little bit of a debate
that we want to go ahead andfinish off.
So the question today is Itwasn't a debate.
What would you call it?

SPEAKER_04 (03:16):
Y'all had me walking out there with buddies on,
getting ready to go to school.

SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
Let them go.
Let them go.
Let them cook.
Nah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 (03:26):
Look, bro, I so you see it crosses into this.
Now we now you can bring it backup into this category.

SPEAKER_03 (03:31):
Oh, I am.
I'm sure like y'all niggasalready seem like y'all beaming,
right?
But the question is, what's thedifference between a comedian
and a comedic actor?
Are there comed are like arethere people who exist in both
worlds?
Absolutely.
Are there people who you wouldgive one title over the other?
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
Would you consider people like a person who was in
both worlds?

SPEAKER_03 (03:54):
Maybe in both worlds, but you consider them
truly a comedian versus acomedic actor.
Like what would you make?

SPEAKER_04 (04:01):
Yeah, because you cause because okay.
Think about Dave Chappelle.
Dave Chappelle was doingstand-up first, correct?
Or did he do his show first?
Or was he just funny first?
Was he a comedic actor?
No, because I think we stand upfirst, though, didn't he?
Yeah, he did stand up first.
Right.
And I think that that be the thethe whole thing.

(04:25):
But for Will Smith.

SPEAKER_02 (04:27):
He was an actor.

SPEAKER_04 (04:28):
He was in a comedic actor.
He was just he was an artistfirst.
And then he became a comedicactor.

SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Like, but you think it matters in the I guess the
order in which it you become theactor?
You think you should be astand-up comedian first before
you get into acting?
Considered comedian actor.
To be considered a comedian,yeah.
Oh yeah, if you're gonna beconsidered a comedian, yes.
You know, but for this thingthat we're talking about

(04:57):
comedian actor, do you think youneed to be a person who's acting
first and has done comedy skitsor comedy shows and stuff like
that?
Not necessarily.

SPEAKER_03 (05:09):
It gets blurry for me though with the comedic actor
thing.
Because even when we talk aboutcomedians, because and like I
guess one of the one of thesweet spots for me is when you
talk about somebody like a DCYoungfly who came from like the
Vine Instagram situation.
Right.
Even like the King Batch, youknow what I'm saying?
Like these cats who came fromthat, yeah, like they came from

(05:32):
that, but they they ended upgoing to the stand-up route, so
they did end up transcendingover there, but people were
considering them comediansbefore they ever made it to the
stage.
You know what I mean?
So is it is it fair to like goone way over the other?
Because when you think about it,real or of a vine, technically
it's like a it's a short story,like a short movie, you know

(05:54):
what I mean?
So when we we talk about comedicactors, are like I don't know,
it get blurry, that's what I'msaying, it get blurry.

SPEAKER_04 (06:03):
Those are skits though.
So I mean, like when you thinkabout a comedian, when they're
on stage, they're doing skits.
They really just putting a fewskits together and and making a
show out of it.
So I in a sense they were kindof doing social media stand-up.

SPEAKER_03 (06:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (06:28):
Essentially.

SPEAKER_03 (06:29):
Alright, so hold on, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit y'all
with some definitions just togive us some more some more
padding on the conversation typeshit.
So a comedian traditionallyearns that title through
stand-up, usually writing,timing, and performing original
material for a live audience.
A comedic actor delivers humorthrough a character or a script,

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not necessarily like their ownjokes that they write.
So they need like a director.
So that's what they bydefinition, that's what they're
saying, the difference between.

SPEAKER_04 (07:02):
Okay, so let's let's talk Will Smith because he was
the fresh prince.
He was being himself.
But most of the the show waswritten, but the comedy wasn't.
Like that was him.
So would that not make him acomedian?

(07:22):
He's improvising.

SPEAKER_03 (07:24):
I say So he's a great actor.
Yeah, and that's the thing.
I would say, by my definition, Iwouldn't consider him a
comedian.
I would say he's a great comedicactor.
I think that he has greatcomedic timing and stuff like
that.
But he's good at improv.
If you was to sit him in a roomand say, hey, can you write some
jokes and then perform thosejokes?

(07:45):
Do you think he would be able todo that?
And if so, would it would he dowell?

SPEAKER_04 (07:49):
The world will never know.

SPEAKER_03 (07:50):
I mean, yeah, at this point, like Will Smith way
past the time.
Let me ask you this then, realquick.

SPEAKER_02 (07:55):
It just popped in my head.
Do you think he would haveseceded on uh Living Color?

SPEAKER_04 (08:01):
Hell nah.
Well, no, not it would havepushed him.

SPEAKER_03 (08:04):
Yes, I think it would have pushed him.

SPEAKER_04 (08:06):
Yeah, because he he yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (08:08):
He would have seceded on that.

SPEAKER_03 (08:09):
Yeah, I think what we got from Will though, bro, we
gotta remember, because of thesame show we talking about that
gave a lot of comedic moments,he had a lot of dramatic
moments, and that's what pushedhim into the independence days
and the You know what I'msaying, like the stuff that gave
you more of the the touchy feelytype of situation.
Right.
Like, I feel like literallythat's a that's actually a great

(08:31):
question, bro.
Cause when I think about if hethe let's let's say him and
Jamie Foxx would have, like, Iguess trained together or like
been neck and neck, toe and toe,like that'd have been crazy,
bruh.
Like the turnout of what kind oflike comics we would have done.
Cause for me personally, I Idon't really like like Saturday
Night Live type stuff.

(08:51):
Like I like it, I like grittytype type comedy.
So like that's why I prefer likeIn Living Color, because they
ain't really pulling no punches.
Right.
Saturday Night Live kind ofpolitical.
Yeah.
When I when I think about it.

SPEAKER_02 (09:03):
Less improvisation is more scripted.

SPEAKER_03 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah.
And I feel like, and I feel likethe people on there gotta walk a
certain line.
I feel like Will Smith probablywould have actually done really
well on Saturday Night Live.
I feel like he kind of walksthat line of comedy.
But he's versatile.
Yeah, but when you think.

SPEAKER_04 (09:20):
Yeah, I couldn't see him on a living color for real.

SPEAKER_03 (09:22):
I feel like he would have been cool on a couple
episodes.
Yeah.
But he wouldn't have been like agood recurrent.
Stay's a staple, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
Jamie Foxx would have been a staple.

SPEAKER_03 (09:31):
Bruh, I have y'all ever seen when he when he
clumped that comedian, thatcomedian, uh, Doug Williams.
Yes.
Bro, and he was like, I'm yourconscience.

SPEAKER_02 (09:41):
I'm your conscience.

SPEAKER_03 (09:42):
Bro, that's a different level of funny, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
Hold on, was he on after him or before him?
They was on the same show,wouldn't they?
Yeah, it was a roast.
It wasn't a roast of the shit.
Oh, that's what it was.
A roast.
Who was it?
It was a football player.

SPEAKER_03 (09:58):
I forgot who it was.

SPEAKER_02 (09:59):
I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:00):
Well, it might have been Emmett Smith.
I think it was like the roast ofEmmett Smith or something like
that.
But bro, the the problem was theDoug dude, he said something
slick to Jamie.
And one thing you one thing youlearn about Jamie Fox, bruh, is
he don't take shit talk toowell.
So, like when the dude sayssomething, he let him have it,
dog.

(10:20):
I'm your conscience.
That joke wasn't funny.
Do something about the channel.
Like, bruh, he was on him, bruh.
It was funny.
I think that's a good thing.
Who do y'all think?

SPEAKER_02 (10:31):
Who y'all think the cream cream de la creme, the
cream of the crop for comedicactors are?

SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
That would I for me.

SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
That would be the route, you're gonna do the Mount
Roast more for this?

SPEAKER_03 (10:42):
But it's hard because I people I feel like
people like Eddie Murphy areboth.
Like, because who's a bettercomedic actor than Eddie Murphy?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I mean, but even MartinLawrence, we talked about him
too.

SPEAKER_04 (10:54):
Yeah.
And then, bruh, it it would endup being the same, but Will
Smith would be in the world.
Also, let's kill.

SPEAKER_03 (10:59):
There's a lot of white dudes that we we be
skipping over because I ain'tgonna lie.
Like, I'm I'm, you know, blacklives matter till I die.
But at the same time, it's a lotof white dudes that got some
juice, bro.
Like Steve Carrill be.

SPEAKER_02 (11:12):
Can I make this criteria and say this then?
Just kill the uh stand-up.
If they have the criteria, thatperson has to have no stand-up.
So just pretty much acting as acomedian.

SPEAKER_03 (11:22):
Then I mean, number one definitely gonna be Will
Smith.
Like, that's easy, I feel like.
Because he doesn't exist in theworld of stand-up.
Bong.
Like, people like Jim Carrey, hewould be considered a comedic
actor, right?
Mm-hmm.
He actually has a stand-up.
Yeah.
A stand-up.
Like he, I think he literallyhas one stand-up, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (11:42):
That was like, I just wanted to do it.
I just needed to do it, type.
That's what that was, probably.

SPEAKER_03 (11:47):
But you know what?
And we was uh to maybe pivotinto another part of a
conversation, but you know who Iwould consider maybe a part of
this generation's like GOAT orlike multi-talented person?
Donald Glover.
Childish Gambino.

SPEAKER_02 (12:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Cause I don't have y'all everseen his stand-ups?
He like from back in the day,like from like 2011 type stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (12:09):
A lot of people didn't know that was the same
person either.

SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
Bruh.
Well, he also he does look alittle different.
Like you look at him now withhis beard and everything versus
back then.

SPEAKER_04 (12:17):
I mean, but that's he used to cut it off.
Like he used to grow it and cutit off.

SPEAKER_02 (12:21):
But still, the people just still didn't know
that was the same person.
They thought, you know, twoalter egos.
But he's cold though.
You think about like how hemusic, how he got a lot of
range.

SPEAKER_04 (12:33):
And he does multiple genres, genres of music too.

SPEAKER_02 (12:37):
But he ain't gonna get the credit like somebody
like Jamie Foxx.

SPEAKER_03 (12:39):
Which is wild, right?
Because you think about it, hethat's the same lane.
It's technically the same lane.
They both have done music, havehad hit records at that.

SPEAKER_02 (12:49):
But I don't think he necessarily grew up with people
in a generation like Jamie Foxxdid first.

SPEAKER_03 (12:55):
And I somebody somebody was talking about that,
bro.
Y'all know who Bookem Woodbineis?
Mm-hmm.
Dang, from if for anybody who'slistening, it was the crazy
brother from Jason's lyric thatwas like tripping out.
He always played like kind of acrazy character.
But he was being interviewed,and he said that one day.
Somebody had asked him, they waslike, hey, what would be one

(13:19):
person that you remember meetingfrom back in the day that you
was kind of surprised at, like,dang, I never expected them to
like blow up like that.
And he said, Jamie Foxx.
And a lot exactly.
So a lot of people reacted likeyou did.
They was like, mm, wow.

SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
Really?
You didn't see that.

SPEAKER_03 (13:35):
Yeah, like, dang, what you mean?
You didn't.
And he was like, that's not adiss to him.
That's not like a slight toJamie, but there was so much
talent back then.
Like back in the 90s, there wereand you you trip off how we grew
up, bro.
That's why we have theconversations we have.
When we talk about just withfrom the 90s, like from 90 to

(13:55):
2000, you talk about the MartinLawrences, you talk about the
Will Smiths, you talk about theEddie Griffins, you talk about,
like, bro, you can literally godown a list, and that's just the
people that's popular.
We ain't talking about thepeople that was on Comic View,
that was just, you know what Imean, just around the way type
dudes.
Like, it's a lot of cats.
It was a lot of talent backthen, and that's what I trip off

(14:15):
of now.
It's we so, we so, I ain't gonnasay we so old, because we not
old.
But bro, we so over the huntthat it's a lot of cats we don't
know.
Yeah.
That's probably making noiseright now.
Like we, I think we was talkingabout it one of these days.
The what's the what's thelight-skinned dude you be you be
following, bro?
They got the the big oldnostrils.

(14:38):
But you know who I'm talkingabout.
You're on your nah, nah, nigga.
Uh, he got that character, Mr.
James, and he be Oh, I You knowwho I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 (14:47):
Yeah, I know you're talking about.
You know exactly what we'retalking about.
Um Mo, like Moho Brooks orsomething.

SPEAKER_03 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, Brooks.
Brooks, that's his name.
That's his name.
But him, we we was talking aboutthe uh what's the light-skinned
dude name from Detroit?
I ain't got nobody's name offthe top of my head.

SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
But he he said the last episode.
Jack Brooks.
Yeah, Jack Funny.

SPEAKER_03 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah.
But like, it's a lot of catsthat's like, and then just the
people we familiar with, youknow what I'm saying?
Like, imagine who the youth isfollowing.
Imagine if we tapped in withlike the high schoolers right
now, like who they followingonline, like who they think is
legit funny type of thing.

SPEAKER_02 (15:18):
But that's kind of like also they that's TikTok.
We ain't on that TikTok toomuch.
It's probably a bunch of TikTokcomedians we don't even know
about.

SPEAKER_04 (15:24):
Yeah, I don't know nothing about that tic-tac.

SPEAKER_03 (15:27):
But you know who they say got the heartbeat.
Got the heart, the tick, thetic-takers out here.
That's how I know nigga, oh,Italy's, bro.
It's a tic-tac.
It's a breath mint, nigga.
I don't know about the tic-tac.

SPEAKER_04 (15:36):
Mm-hmm.
Tic-tac-toe.

SPEAKER_03 (15:38):
Hey, but they say a lot of people uh use like
cosinetinum as like they theyheartbeat.
That's who they they kind of payattention to him.
And whoever he shout out, orwhoever he got on his platform
is like.

SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
So he becoming, he's come coming to gotta go-to for
the information and kind of plugit on.
Everybody using him as a go-tosource to bless off on some, uh.

SPEAKER_03 (16:01):
But that's that's kind of what I wanted to talk to
y'all about.
Like, it's the landscape ofcomedy is changing.
Now people are watching streamsversus like going back, yeah.
But even older folks, like MikeIpps was just on there with
Cassinette not too long ago.
Now he's talking about startinghis own stream.

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So it's like, now it's gotpeople.
You got to all levels.

SPEAKER_02 (16:26):
You know how they always told told, we always told
our people too, and give it thetimes.
Yeah.
I mean You got to.
True.
If you want to stay relevant, oryou're gonna be swallowed up by
it.
You gotta get with it and adapt.

SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
So, okay, so with so let's bring let's bring the
question back up.
Since we've talked a little bitabout different types of comedy,
do you feel like you should haveto earn the title of comedian by
doing stand-up?
Do you feel like that's stillrelevant?

SPEAKER_02 (16:56):
Yes.
I still feel like it is.
As if you to be respected byyour, I think your peers.
I think that's the main thingtoo, is trying to be respected
by your peers.
Okay.
But I think they probably gonnasay there's an old head mindset
because a lot of dudes nowadaysain't doing no stand-up and they
feel like they don't probablyneed to.

SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
But I that's what I was gonna ask you.
So would you say a millionpeople laughing online is not
the same as, let's say, 300people selling out like a comedy
club?

SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
Because it's gonna be a that's a different animal.
Is making people laugh face toface.

SPEAKER_03 (17:31):
Even even with that difference, you feel like 300
people in the club, a million,you get a million likes or like
you might get a million likes orlaughs, but guess what?

SPEAKER_04 (17:40):
About a million other people might have seen
that and not reacted to it.

SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
And you only get one take.
When you're recording and dothese skits, you can get
multiple takes.

SPEAKER_03 (17:49):
So you feel like it's more people paying their
dues more than anything.
Or what you like, what do youfeel like it is?
Do you feel like it's a respectfor the craft type of thing?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (17:58):
It's it's a plethora of things, like we always say,
it's it's not just one thingthat classifies you as a
comedian.
One thing, the one thing thatlike you said before, that
classifies that person as acomedian is that stand-up.
You know, because we've we'veheard stories about comedians

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and the the stuff that they hadto go through as doing stand-up,
doing running through thechitlin circuit and all of this
shit, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like they had to do allof that to get to where they
are.
Like clocking them hours.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
They put that they put in 8,000hours, you know what I'm saying?

(18:40):
And and they were successful atthat, and then because of that,
they were able to get theseshows and stuff like that, you
know what I'm saying?
Like that's I feel like I feellike that's the criteria, you
The the stand-up is like numberone.
All the other stuff is likeextra shit.

SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
Hey, look though, but I could spin it like this,
because I just thought about inthis way.
Is it not the same way of theolder generation always telling
us them paving paving the way sowe don't have to?
So it's like they did all thestand-up, opened all these doors
for these other opportunities sothe newer generation of comics

(19:20):
don't have to do it.
No, because Well, they stillhave to do it.

SPEAKER_04 (19:24):
They still have to do it just because of the simple
fact I feel like the people whosaid that type of shit were also
telling uh like also the onescomplaining when they saw that
it was too easy for us.

SPEAKER_02 (19:37):
Well they saw the the the amount of money getting
generated now versus back then.
And like you just said, it waseasier to obtain.

SPEAKER_04 (19:46):
Yeah, but the comedians, the good comedians
that uh capitalized on the moneyback in the day and see that and
did pave the way for it to beeasy, those comedians that's
still in the game are stilldoing that type of stuff.
Just like Mike Epps was like,oh, he saw Mike Epps is gonna

(20:09):
get ready.
Mike Epps is gonna stream and befunny.
He's gonna be himself.
So he just finding another wayof getting the funny out.
So is is it's different.
Like, say for instance, they didpay the way, uh, and say, yes,

(20:30):
we made it easier for y'all todo this.
That comedian should still bepushing forward and doing the
easy shit too.
So he should be capitalizing onthat the that way he wouldn't be
upset about the youngins makingmoney.
But half of these niggas belike, oh damn, y'all, y'all
soft, because it's too easy now.

SPEAKER_02 (20:48):
But you don't think that old head Mike Elps checking
in by going on that stream withthat young boy Kyle Sonette?

SPEAKER_04 (20:54):
What you mean?

SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
He paying his dudes right then by going on that
stream.

SPEAKER_04 (20:59):
Nah.
He already paid his dudes.
Like, when you when you that bigin the game, you know what I'm
saying?
When you you've took away.
Stay relevant, though.

SPEAKER_02 (21:08):
To stay relevant, though.

SPEAKER_03 (21:09):
Yeah, for sure.
Absolutely.
This is what I mean.
I call it the Snoop Dogg trick,bruh.
If you ever trip off, bruh,right there.
Snoop Dogg on anybody's track,bruh.
And it'd be the it'd be someyoung 14-year-old kid out of
Latin America, you know?
And he'll jump on their song,and it's just like, whenever you
hear Snoop Dogg, bruh, you cango back to the early 90s.
You find out.

(21:29):
Why is it okay for Snoop?

SPEAKER_02 (21:30):
Look, no, hey, why is it okay for Snoop?
Random.

SPEAKER_03 (21:33):
What you mean?

SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
To just jump on other people's tracks and other
cultures and stuff like that.
But as soon as somebody comeout, our culture, that culture
voter.

SPEAKER_03 (21:41):
I say this.
Normally when we transition andwe go to other people's culture,
we still stay ourselves.
You listen to like uh when NickiMinaj transitions or stuff, we
tend to bring what we are totheir music.
What tends to happen with themis they try to use our style for
themselves for themselves, andusually it's a pivot moment.

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They use it until they get to acertain point, and then they all
of a sudden become their realselves.

SPEAKER_04 (22:08):
Well, I can't but I can give you some perspective on
why it's okay for Snoop to doit, though.
It's because both sides areusing each other.
You using Snoop because you'regonna get some listens off of
just being Snoop.
Right?
And he using you to stayrelevant.

(22:30):
Yeah.
So it's a win-win.
So that's why it's cool forSnoop to do it, because it's
it's Snoop.

SPEAKER_02 (22:37):
Like So that's why it was an issue when that boy
Aubrey was doing it.

SPEAKER_04 (22:42):
What you mean?

SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
They talk about him being coach of Votary, like down
here in Houston.
That's different though, man.
How's it different?

SPEAKER_04 (22:50):
Because he was he was Jimmy in the wheelchair.
And we just was talking aboutthis earlier, bro.
Like he was Jimmy in thewheelchair, bro.
Like he he wasn't he wasn't partof the culture?
He ain't part of the culture.
I mean he is, right?
You you can never take Drakeaway from the culture, right?

(23:10):
But when you when you sit backand look, he was never like this
tough guy, like he, like wesaid, like talking about
earlier.
He had tough guy representation.
And that made him like you knowhow you know how you start, all

(23:31):
right.
So we all know that one dudethat was corny and started
hanging around the gangsters,and he thought he was gangster.
Now you know what I'm saying?
That's straight.
And then and then this this thislittle this little guy that got

(23:53):
more swagger than you comes upand he like, hey man, you ain't
about that life.
And he gets to tellingeverybody, like, bruh, y'all
ain't peeping it.

SPEAKER_00 (24:05):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (24:05):
Like he go over there and hang with them, and
then he go over there and hangwith them, and you know what I'm
saying?
He point out all the he pointout all the flaws, and people
get to look at you like yeah,bro, like you.
You kind of is a square, bruh.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So you when you think about it,yeah, but like I ain't gonna pay

(24:26):
him as a culture vulture, buthey, but that's the problem.
They saying does he pay hisdues?
Go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 (24:34):
Because hey, look, because this the this the thing.
I wanna I wanna go back to whatour original point was.
Because I I wanna I want us toremember the difference in these
two things.
Cause I feel like what happensis we don't give them a name.
Okay, so I want you I want us tothink about people like

(24:55):
Drewski's, Desi Banks, right?
Like these people who havetranscended comedians, right?
They're they're funny.
Because if you trip off whenpeople introduce them a lot of
the time, they don't use theterm comedian.
Right.
They might use the term.

SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
Desi has done stand-up, let me point that out.

SPEAKER_03 (25:16):
He's doing a lot more now.
He's doing it consistently now.
So I will definitely say that.
But traditionally, when they gottheir start, they were
considered just funny people.

SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:25):
But if we're not gonna call themcomedians, technically people
like that, I wouldn't call theman actor either.
They didn't go the acting route.

SPEAKER_04 (25:36):
Yeah, but they did the Instagram skits.

SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
That's kind of so like, but that's kind of both
worlds.
It's like marrying, you knowwhat I mean?
Because the I guess that's thething.
Because a lot of what I've heardfrom old school comedians is
they don't respect it becauseyou get to press, you get to
stop and press play andre-record.
Right, you know what I mean?
Get multiple takes.
Right.
Yeah, and then for from them,they gotta, you know, create

(26:01):
what they call lightning onstage.
Yeah, like I gotta catch itright there in the moment.

SPEAKER_02 (26:04):
You get to rehearse it, but it's just off the rib,
it's live.

SPEAKER_03 (26:07):
It's it's it's pretty much live.
I gotta feel the energy in theroom and and go off that.

SPEAKER_02 (26:11):
And I hope you ain't got no heckless that's gonna
kill you too much.

SPEAKER_03 (26:14):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
And so for me, I feel likepeople like Adruski, who's
arguably one of the biggestnames right now, he don't really
fit into a box, which I guess isgood.
But what would he fall back on?
Is he a comedian?
Is he more of an actor?
Is he hype man?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like what is dude?

SPEAKER_02 (26:34):
He a hype man.

SPEAKER_03 (26:35):
I mean, I I guess at this point, he uh he a business
owner, you know what I mean?
He created all kinds of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (26:40):
So So I feel like Drewski to me, he he he he
became one of those people thatdo things for shock value.
Right.
Like a shock jock.
So he fall into that categoryfor me.
I don't like he he he's morelike an eye show speed, you know

(27:03):
what I'm saying?
The speed dude, you know whatI'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 (27:05):
And which cause people consider him funny.
People feel like like I watchhim, he entertains me.

SPEAKER_04 (27:11):
Bruh ate a whole fucking bar of soap, bruh.
For real?
Yes.
See, I only catch me.
I don't really be watching this.

SPEAKER_02 (27:18):
Yeah, no, I ain't seen it.

SPEAKER_04 (27:19):
That's why that's what, bruh,like we're straight on that.

SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
But Drew Sleeve.
Yeah, yeah.
You trying to say you ain'tgonna give him his respect his
credit?

SPEAKER_04 (27:28):
I'm uh no, because I I respect look, I respect
anybody doing their own thingand making money off of it.
But like in the realm ofcomedian, no, I can't give him
his flowers.
Like he he doesn't he like hisfunny ain't the type of funny

(27:52):
you can throw on the stage,bruh.
If you threw him into if youthrew him at a and wildin out,
yeah, he might, you know whatI'm saying, he might, he might
be cool.

SPEAKER_03 (28:04):
Even then, to that, I see, I guess that to me is
what makes a comedian.
Because so going back to what wetalked about earlier with Jamie
Foxx, right?
I've heard him and Kevin Hartfor like an hour, bruh, on Jamie
Foxx's old radio show, justroast each other.
Literally just go joke for joke,back and forth.

(28:25):
I've seen Kevin Hart go onwildin' out and kill it.
We've obviously seen him dostand-up.
We've also seen him do movies.
And to me, I've also seen EddieMurphy in the same light.
He don't have as many recordedmoments roasting people, but
I've seen Eddie Murphy get witha couple people, not to mention
music, movies, you know what I'msaying?

(28:48):
So is it more than just like ifthey've done stand-up or not,
and can they kill it in otherareas?
Because like what I find is likea DC on fly.
DC code is stand-up.
Obviously, we see him killing itwith 85 South.
We know him from Instagram andVine, right?
And then going into the wildin'out world.

(29:09):
So like we've seen a lot of dopestuff.

SPEAKER_02 (29:11):
I need to see him, I ain't gonna lie.
I need to see him some more likefilms or something.

SPEAKER_03 (29:15):
He's been in a couple movies, they just ain't
been great.

SPEAKER_02 (29:18):
So I think that he needs to do, has he been good in
the at least in those roles?
That'd be the thing too.
Movie could be trash, but youcan be good in your role.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (29:28):
Like, I didn't really how high too?

SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
Yeah.
I yeah, no.
I see, don't watch it.
But like, look, I'm gonna justtell you that.
But he was he was cool in thatuh Christmas movie he was in,
that almost Christmas moviewhere he was flirting with
Monique.

SPEAKER_02 (29:42):
Okay, nah, I ain't peeped that either.

SPEAKER_03 (29:44):
He that was that was a cool little moment for him,
but I also think it's script,bro.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 (29:49):
I was about to say they might be typecasting him,
you know what I'm saying, towhere that'd be the problem,
too.
You know, like hey, go be funny.
Yeah.
And he might want to be thenormal person, you know what I'm
saying?
Like they got the little funnysidelines or something like
that.

SPEAKER_02 (30:04):
Right, like if they were to come out with that that
Friday movie, like that they'vebeen talking about for years, he
was supposed to be Smokey Son.

SPEAKER_03 (30:09):
Mm-hmm.
Bruh, he also was supposed to doit.
Is that type of cast boysupposed to do rush hour?
Him and Timothy uh De Laghettowere supposed to do uh Rush
Hour.

SPEAKER_02 (30:17):
But is that type of casting him?
Yeah.
That type of casting him.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:20):
I would say, this is my thing.
I would say, as long as he don'tget stuck in it.
Cause it's a lot of people whodon't get stuck in their roles.
It allows them to go off and doother things.
But he just couldn't have doneit for too long.
I feel like if he'd have doneone movie, it'd have been
successful and he'd have goneoff and did other stuff, cool.
But also I feel like DC is oneof the comedians who is he kind

(30:42):
of raunchy.
Yeah.
So it's hard to put him in stuffbecause his funny is based on
him being more vulgar.
Yeah, exactly.
So versus a Drewski.

SPEAKER_02 (30:53):
He know how to tone it down.

SPEAKER_03 (30:54):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (30:56):
He could be on something like a white chicks
movie.

SPEAKER_03 (30:58):
Yeah.
But see, but that's what I'msaying.
It had to be his part had to bewritten like super well for him.
Alright, but so we was on thatfor a minute.
I feel like it's a lot of gooddebates on comedian versus
comedic actor, but I got somedifferent this or that's for
y'all, and we're gonna see kindof what side of the fence we end
up on.
So put yourself in thecomedian's shoes, right?

(31:22):
Would you rather bomb on stageor have a movie that's trash and
it flop in the box office?

SPEAKER_04 (31:30):
I'd rather bomb on stage, bruh.

SPEAKER_03 (31:32):
You'd rather bomb like right there, like live?

SPEAKER_04 (31:35):
I'd rather you boom me up out of there.
Rather than, hey, because thething is, you can boom me out of
there and I can go to anotherclub around the corner.
If I make a trash movie, it'sout there.
It's out there.
You ain't getting rid of thatmovie, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 (31:52):
I can still make residuals off that bread from
that movie, though.

SPEAKER_04 (31:55):
And good, but that's hard, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
Like this could potentially mess up my tour.
If I'm doing a tour, you said itwas a tour, though.
I'm saying though, if I'm doinga stand-up, they could
potentially mess up a tour.
Like, like just even like it'stoo risky type of thing.
I'm trash here, and then theysay years later I want to open
up and do a tour, and they canbe like, man, he was trash then.
They it's and now it's thisrecording going around, and it's

(32:20):
evidence of me being trash onthis stage.
See, I'm not sure.
Versus me, I could blame, Icould blame the writing.

SPEAKER_03 (32:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (32:26):
And say that's the writing right now for the movie.

SPEAKER_03 (32:29):
Like Ice Cube do in the butt, so it's funny because
I was watching a shop and anactor dude, I think he was
saying kind of the reverse, buthe was talking about how he
couldn't imagine having to getlike an immediate reaction.
Right?
He was like, I get to record mylines, do my thing, let them

(32:49):
make the movie, and then ify'all love it, y'all love it.
If y'all don't, y'all don't,whatever.
I'm usually moving on to thenext project.
When you're doing it live, youknow what I mean?
He was talking about music art,like compare himself to a
musical artist, but it's thesame kind of situation.
When you're doing it live, yougetting those people's reactions
to you like in real time.
So if they hated you looking ata hundred faces that's looking

(33:11):
like, oh, this is trash.
Like, it's gonna become anavalanche, bro.
It's just gonna be justsweating, you're gonna start
tripping.

SPEAKER_02 (33:20):
You might trip over the wiring from the microphone.
Like, come on, bro.
It's gonna go downhill, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (33:25):
It's gonna get crazy, bro.
Alright, alright.
So, next question, nextquestion.
That was good.
So's yours, bro.
What you mean?
I mean for me.
You're gonna answer your ownquestion, brother?
Nah, you know, keep pushing.
So for me, I'm definitelyflopping in the movie, though.
Cause I feel like we've we'veall known an actor to have like

(33:46):
a bad movie, or at least a goodamount of actors have had bad
movies and then gone off tosuccessful movies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like, I would probably ratherdo that.
I'll be honest, bro.
Because of the type of artistthat I am, like, because I've
I've danced and shit like thatin my past.
Like, imagine, like, I imagine,like, I'm literally dancing and
thinking about it.
I'm dancing, bruh.

(34:07):
I'm doing everything I can.
I'm hitting every little moveand moment I got in my arsenal,
bro.
And they like, boo.
Just like, bruh, I'm crushed.

SPEAKER_02 (34:17):
Imagine you know, imagine it's your wedding
reception.
It didn't, it didn't go as well.
Bruh.
Imagine.
They'd be like, you suck.

SPEAKER_03 (34:25):
Right.
Yeah, blew his back out.
Like, bruh.
Even even worse than that, bro.
Like, it just like, just peoplejust unentertained.
They just like, nigga, this istrash.
Start you to believe it.
But yeah, no, I'm definitely,I'm definitely flopping in the
movie, because I can't take it.
Alright, alright.
So, would y'all rather say,would you rather perform for 200

(34:50):
people live?
We gotta flip the scenario,right?
But would you rather perform for200 people live or 2 million
people online?
So paint the scene.
You either on stage, performingfor 200 people live, bright
lights, big crowds, a lot ofnoise, you're on stage by
yourself.
Or you perform it for twomillion people online, right?

(35:12):
So the camera's definitely onyou, but you in the comfort of
your own home or your own studioor whatever, you know what I'm
saying?
That's the thing.
And you doing your thing.
So I can I can quickly turn offthat camera.
Right, and end this live as soonas I feel on concentration said
it's gonna be four hours.

SPEAKER_04 (35:34):
Yeah, because I like you just said, you gotta do with
them 200 people, if they don'tlike it, you gotta look at them
being like bruh.
Like, what are you doing?
200 hecklers?
You know, yeah, at least atleast when you on the code.
So imagine it either cut theirmic off when they talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 (35:51):
Imagine like the Apollo.
You remember how the Apollo was.

SPEAKER_03 (35:54):
I literally was thinking it.
It's crazy you just said that.

SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
Walk, walk, yes, bruh.

SPEAKER_03 (35:59):
Imagine that.
Imagine all them people get upout in the crowd and they like,
get off the stage.
Right, move.
You'll feel like doo-doo, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 (36:08):
And to slide it back.

SPEAKER_03 (36:09):
You singing or something too.

SPEAKER_02 (36:10):
And it's to slide it back.
So we was talking about thecomedy, you know what I'm
saying?
Like, that would used to be likethe crime de la crime, like the
Apollo.
If you can do it there, you cando it anywhere.

SPEAKER_03 (36:19):
Anywhere.
Because that's the toughestcrowd.
It used to be anyway.
Like, you go to Apollo, that waslike, shouldn't you?

SPEAKER_02 (36:26):
That's a rite of passage.

SPEAKER_03 (36:27):
Yeah.
And it's crazy because it we itain't phased up.
Like, but all right, let's keepus moving.
Cause I think I feel like we wedoing good, but I got a couple
different areas I want to touchon.

SPEAKER_02 (36:39):
These the correct answers.

SPEAKER_04 (36:40):
Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you.
I was hey, before you go, huh?
Well, if this nigga boo you offstage like that, how to hit him
with the Terrence How?
Yeah, I gonna do me like that,man.
Hey man.
Hey man, it's not mine.

SPEAKER_03 (36:54):
But I feel like that's what makes you a good
comedian.
Like you gotta flip it.
That's one thing I used to loveabout Dion Cole.
He used to come out there with anotebook and he used to say his
jokes, and if somebody laughed,he'd write, like, he'll smile,
he'd write it down.
Yeah.
And then if they if they didn'tpeople laugh real, he'd be like,
nah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:10):
Right, he'd scratch it out.
He'd get them giggling.
It probably, that's that's a youknow what I'm saying, a way to
go.

SPEAKER_03 (37:19):
Bruh, it's so funny.
So it's funny that you said thatbecause I feel like that's what
makes a good comedian.
You gotta be able to flip it,bro.
But alright, aye.
So next up, this one I feel likeis gonna be a little bit more
difficult.
Jim Carrey or Dave Chappelle?
Who do you feel like had abigger impact on comedy?

SPEAKER_02 (37:37):
Don't make me do that to him, bro.
I like Jimmy.
Yeah.
But I don't know, because thenit's kids nowadays, just like I
had Cutter Klein earlier, hesaid he's never seen Dave
Chappelle's show.
Or the Chappelle show.
And that's so surprising to me,but why?
Why is it surprising?

(37:58):
Is it because like Comedy Censoris not really putting it out
there anymore?

SPEAKER_03 (38:02):
I think it's more so, bro.
It's kind of like Biggie.
He didn't have a lot ofmaterial.
It was only like two and a halfseasons.
Yeah.
It wasn't a whole lot of stuffgoing on.

SPEAKER_04 (38:11):
I said that last episode uh in that in the what?
Yeah, my rush move episode.
Like you think about it, therewas only a couple seasons, but
you're going to see a Jim CarreyMood.
Like you're going to see that.

SPEAKER_03 (38:28):
Especially now with Sonic, bro.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (38:31):
Like you can skip over, you could, you cannot see
Martin, you cannot see FreshPrince, you cannot see none of
them, but you're going to see aJim Carrey Mood.
Yep.
Guaranteed.

SPEAKER_02 (38:41):
And this can flow into that GOAT debate, like the
criteria of GOAT.
It's like is a criteria of aGOAT.
What you did in this shortperiod of time.
You know how they you got peoplewho have injuries.
They cold for five, like DaveRose, cold for them few years.
Got hurt.

(39:02):
Now is he he's not gonna be, youknow what I'm saying?
And he got the youngest MVPever.
He's the youngest MVP ever forthe NBA.
But he's not considering noother conversations really
because he had a short period oftime of doing it, because he got
hurt.
So it's like Dave Chappelle, hehad a short run, crushing.
It was nice, but it was short.
And it didn't reach the amountof people that needed to.

SPEAKER_03 (39:23):
And I think he received legendary status like
amongst a lot of drama.
So like he because during thatshow, I feel like it's when he
peaked a lot of that stuff, likehim going to Africa, him leaving
the show, and stuff, all thatstuff happening.
It was just a lot of like dramaaround it.
So yeah, and that and that hurt.
Because you know, and you knowhow the black community get, we

(39:45):
we catch a joke on you, and nowthat's law.
They was like, oh yeah, he'scrazy and he went to Africa.
Like, nigga, he nigga just wentto go get himself together.
Like, he just went to go chill.
When what?
Came back in shape, came backbuffing everything.
Like, you hear me?
Like, and and still funny, bro,still turning up the uh the
clubs and everything.

SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
But to say, we had we we we must we want the white
boy, we want Jimmy to stay.

SPEAKER_03 (40:07):
But I was I was like, all of that to say, in my
opinion, I feel like he heprobably had the biggest impact
on comedy.
All right.
Even with In Living Color.

SPEAKER_04 (40:16):
Now, don't go against the grain, bro.
I got to.
Because when you think aboutimpact and the things that Dave
did afterwards, like his newstand-ups and and the messages
that he's passing out here.

SPEAKER_03 (40:32):
Because all of Netflix was ready to take his
head off.

SPEAKER_02 (40:34):
So he's living through, he's living through
cancellations.
Because he tried to cancel himfor some of the things.

SPEAKER_04 (40:40):
I mean, but they they do, but they've been
speaking the truth.
Right.
Jim is just funny.
Jim ain't out here trying to getno messages, you know what I'm
saying?

SPEAKER_03 (40:50):
So I mean, I I I I have to argue that back only
because he was just at like anaward ceremony, giving them the
business.
I think I've seen that too,little clip.
Like, and so he has been knownto give messages and they ask
them stuff.
Yeah, well, he was giving aspeech.
You know how you accept an awardand give a speech.

(41:11):
But that's the opportunity to doit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (41:13):
Versus people probably not really coming to
them and asking them questionsand stuff like that.
People gonna ask they shouldappeal something.

SPEAKER_04 (41:19):
I get that, but Dave intentionally made a stand-up
and did it.
For sure.
He when he does a stand-up, youalready know.
You wipe, you rubbing your handstogether, like, yeah, but what
button?
Like that's the type of stuffthat that I feel like, okay,
that that that is impactfulright there.
Because everybody's listening tosee what he's saying, you know?

SPEAKER_05 (41:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (41:42):
And he got some drawn out jokes that at the end,
where you dead.
Yeah.
Hey, you dead.

SPEAKER_03 (41:47):
Yeah, because he started it at the beginning of
the stand-up.
And then, yeah, he definitelylike.
But it gotta be something aboutthat little longevity, man.
Hey.
But it's a recipe, bro, andthat's the thing I've heard the
most.
Like, because I've I'veconsidered going in the in the
stand-up through differenttimes, but like people talk
about it's not just about beingfunny.
Them cats learn, it's kind oflike making a song, right?

(42:10):
There's pieces you gotta puttogether to make this thing like
funny, for especially for themasses, you know what I mean?
Like, people find certain thingsfunny, you gotta plug this in
here.
X, Y, and Z.
But alright, so stand on thecomedy situation.
Stand on the comedy situation.
Kevin Hart, the stand-upcomedian, or Kevin Hart, the

(42:33):
actor.
Right?
Now, mind you, like remindyourself of everything he's
done.
The ride-alongs, the Jumangies,the like all the stuff, all the
movies that you've seen him in.
Matter of fact, going back tothe Soul Plains, to the Paper
Soldiers, to you know what I'msaying?
Like all the things, scarymovies, all the stuff you may

(42:54):
have seen them in.
So you had to, let's say, let'slet's uh frame it as a you got
to get rid of one or the other.
So get rid of all his stand-upor get rid of all his movies.
So, how many stand-ups he had?
He only had like two good ones,right?

SPEAKER_02 (43:08):
Nah, he got like four of them.

SPEAKER_03 (43:09):
Yeah, he got I I mean he's had like six or seven
of them.
He's saying two good ones.
But as far as good ones, I'll Iwould say four or good ones.

SPEAKER_02 (43:16):
Right, to him.
He's had two.

SPEAKER_04 (43:18):
I mean, yeah, maybe to you.

SPEAKER_02 (43:19):
Right.
That's what he just said.

SPEAKER_04 (43:21):
No, that's not what I just said.
Like, as far as notoriety, likeas far as the question.
What's your question, sir?
As far as was there two goodones?

SPEAKER_03 (43:29):
I would argue that the masses feel like there was
at least four or five.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (43:35):
So if it was four to five, then I would cancel the
movies.

SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
I don't, I don't, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (43:43):
I don't If it was like because I remember like two
like impactful ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he waited a long time.
So the last couple ones, I don'tlike I ain't saying they
nothing, but it's like betterthan better than the movies, you

(44:03):
Like but okay, no, take themovies away.
Because he played damn near thesame character in like every
movie.

SPEAKER_02 (44:11):
I'll get ready to say I feel like his he was his
more authentic self in stand-up.

SPEAKER_04 (44:17):
In stand-up.

SPEAKER_02 (44:18):
Them movies, bro, them scripts, I think is is
watering him down.

SPEAKER_03 (44:22):
And I think that's why he started trying to pivot
doing that.

SPEAKER_02 (44:26):
Bro, that that Tom Brady roast.
You you if y'all ain't you seenthat?
It was so cringy, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (44:32):
I was in that whole time.

SPEAKER_02 (44:36):
Well, he was cooking them on there though.

SPEAKER_03 (44:38):
I mean, he was definitely No Hoes boy.
He was getting getting busy ortrying to at least as much as he
could.
Because I feel like it's hard tobe funny when other people
around you not being funny.
Exactly.
That's a difficult job.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (44:49):
But at the same time, you can consider that like
stand-up, though.
Like when you roasting, likethat's like stand-up.

SPEAKER_02 (44:56):
That's that's difficult.
Because you gotta look at theroom, read the room, and
hopefully people them peoplethat's in that crowd don't take
it too harsh, even, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Even though sometimes theyprobably know they're finna get
roasted, but it still beblindsided by a joke that you
did not see coming.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (45:12):
Yeah, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would
murder them uh movies.
I would read Rum the movies.

SPEAKER_03 (45:18):
Okay.
And it's so just so just to putit out there, the he's got four
notable stand-ups.
And that's what I'm that's whatI'm pulling up right now.
Okay.
Laughing My Pain in 2011, whichis crazy because Grown Little
Man in 2010 would have been onefor me.
But anyway, moving past this,Laughing My Pain 2011, Let Me

(45:38):
Explain 2013, what now in 2016,and then his irresponsible tour,
which was in 2017, 2018.
I know he's got some more recentones for sure.
And then, but for me, I got hipto him, at least in the stand-up
space, for as like grown littleman.
And that's when he was in theblack, he was talking about his
son and stuff.

(45:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's when I got likeeverything.

SPEAKER_04 (46:02):
So for me, it would be four, because one of them I
didn't rock with.
And I think that was probablywhat now.

SPEAKER_03 (46:10):
But because for me, I feel like that's the one I
ain't really rock with either.
Yeah.
But but I okay, so just to goback around, answer the question
again.
What you say unique to the thequestion of get rid of all Kevin
Hart's movies or get rid of allhis stand-ups?

SPEAKER_02 (46:25):
Nah, get rid of the movies.
Get rid of the movies.

SPEAKER_03 (46:27):
From okay, okay.
What about you, Monte?

SPEAKER_04 (46:31):
Man, throw all of them in the chat.
Nah, uh, just the movies.

SPEAKER_03 (46:34):
Just the movies.

SPEAKER_04 (46:34):
Yeah, just the movies.

SPEAKER_03 (46:36):
I'ma I'ma say, I'ma agree, even though like that,
that, that really grind you.
What movies you like, bruh?
I like, I mean, most of themovies he in, he, he, he could,
like he contributes with.
Uh Ride Along was entertaining.
What movies you like, bruh?
Ride Along was entertaining forme.
Paper Soldiers was entertainingfor me.

(46:57):
Soul Playing always has aspecial place in my heart.

SPEAKER_02 (47:00):
Um That's just because that's just like an old
movie that's good during thattime.
Later on, when you got older,you looked at how trash it was.

SPEAKER_03 (47:07):
I mean, absolutely.
I feel like most movies likethat, sadly.
But I mean, even the the littlestuff he's done, he played like
a thief and stuff.
It was cool.
I ain't watched the one with himand Will Farrell, but it's
right.

SPEAKER_02 (47:18):
Yeah, throw it away.
Throw it away.
Put it in that drawer, that junkdrawer in the kitchen.
It jumped the junk drawer.

SPEAKER_03 (47:26):
I bet.
So let's pivot.
Let's pivot.
Let's go, let's get into the uhthe next situation.
So now we're gonna get a littlebit messy.
Drewski or DC Youngfly.
Hold on, hold on.
Ooh, staying or going?
Oh my bad.
Go ahead.
So continue.
Who would you say is closer tobeing a real comedian?

(47:47):
Drewski or DC Young?

SPEAKER_00 (47:49):
Young Fly.

SPEAKER_03 (47:50):
Say that one more time.
Who's closer to being a realcomedian?
Drewski or DC Youngfly?
Ah, DC.
And why do you say that?
Like what qualifies DC as a as acomedian over Drewski?
One, because he's done stand-upalready.

SPEAKER_04 (48:08):
Okay.
Okay.
Um two, because he's surroundedby two great comedians that
already do stand-up that cangive him all the pointers in the
world.
And three, he's already donestand-up already.
So that's one and three.

SPEAKER_03 (48:32):
Uh this is why I feel this way.
Alright.
But nah, and I I respect that.
What about you, Unique?
What you feel?

SPEAKER_02 (48:39):
I mean, uh, Ditto.
But I think I'm gonna just saythis though.
I wanna like give him hisflowers, Drewski, and in this
regard.
I feel like he's doing a lot ofthings and and bringing people
on.
Like, because of the tours he'sdoing and uh different other
people he's collaboring with.
I think he's doing probably moreof that that we can see than DC.

(49:03):
Would you say?

SPEAKER_03 (49:05):
I would see, and that's what it's difficult,
right?
Because for me, I feel like DC,especially since the passing of
his wife, he's kind of pivoted.
He does the 85 South, and thenhe does a lot of stuff behind
the scenes.
I don't really see him out andabout as much.
Drewski is all over everyscreen.
Look at he on fan duels,commercials, YouTube shows,

(49:27):
streaming.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the tour, he's heeverywhere, bro.
He was on, he helped host theGrammys or whatever that was
with Kevin Hart, him passingthat and uh Kevin Hart.
Like, bruh is literallyeverywhere right now.
But, and that's why I asked,like He's more mainstream.
Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_02 (49:44):
Like, he's more mainstream.

SPEAKER_03 (49:45):
And so that's not going back to our original
question, right?
So that's not what qualifies youas a comedian.
Because he's like we just said,he's done everything.
He's been on the city.

SPEAKER_02 (49:54):
I think DC gonna get more of the respect from like
the OG comedians than Drewskifor sure.

SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
Just because of the stand-up though, or do you feel
like it's because of somethingelse?

SPEAKER_02 (50:03):
Stand up under how you carry yourself.
Okay.
Like they probably think theyprobably all right, like I mean,
because I want to know what youmean.
They probably think Drewskilame.

SPEAKER_03 (50:16):
Compared to DC.
Yeah, just cause Okay, and it'sfunny because uh look at it.
No, no, no, because I wanna forthe for the people who've been
listening to us, right?
For the people who who actuallylisten to us week to week to
week to week, tying this back tothe Russell Wilson conversation.
When we talk, when we say lame,right, what does that mean,
bruh?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, what is your definition oflame?

(50:39):
But that it's oh wow.
But for real, I cuz because forme, right, when I say, when I
say lame, just to give a simpledefinition, it's to say not as
cool, right?
So when I talk about, like, likeeven if you talk about

(50:59):
popularity, you may not havebeen the most popular nigga in
school, but on the lame scale,you was an eight, right?
While it might have been otherniggas who was a teen, right?
So it's just it's about how coolyou are or aren't.
There are some niggas who lamewho twos.
There's some niggas who lame whofours.

(51:22):
Oh, so you know what I'm saying?
It's so like it's differentlevels of coolness.

SPEAKER_04 (51:29):
They they in the lame, they in the lame class,
and they getting on the lamescale.
Just to figure out what level oflame them.
Hey, come here, come here.

SPEAKER_03 (51:41):
Let me talk to me for a second.

SPEAKER_02 (51:42):
Hey, bro, you level one of lame, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 (51:44):
Hey, niggas like having that saying, the Dragon
Ball Z sand uh radar i9, nigga.
It's like that Harry Potter hat.
Oh, what you what you got?
Yeah, nigga, you uh you youhouse of lame.
You go over here to the side.
Hey, you level one.

SPEAKER_00 (51:59):
Level one house of lane.
Look, give me that one.
You don't even get that.
He got a regular stick.

SPEAKER_04 (52:07):
You get a walking stick, sir.

SPEAKER_00 (52:10):
You get a branch, he got a switch.

SPEAKER_03 (52:13):
Hey, watch out.
Fresh ass meat on it.
But watch out the young boythat's tricky.
The switch.
Alright, for real though, cuz inmy in my opinion, when we when
we go back and we talk about allthese these different arguments,
I feel like it comes down towhat your definition of

(52:34):
something is.
When I think about my definitionof a comedian, it's somebody who
was like proven, right?
Somebody who who went throughthe trenches.
Even if it wasn't necessarilytraditionally stand-up, it means
you went through trying to doit.
You had some failed movies, youwhatever, da-da-da.
Because even for me, Lil Duval.

(52:56):
I consider Lil Duval a comedianbefore I really tripped off his
stand-up.
Just because he was in people'smusic videos acting crazy and
doing all, you know, this otherstuff.
Then I seen him, what was Ican't even remember what the
name of that comedy show was,but like him and Lil JJ was
going head to head, and Lil JJended up winning.
And I remember most of the catsthat I was coming up with, we

(53:17):
felt like Lil Duval got robbed.
Like he way funnier than him.
Just off the strength.
But I also feel like Lil Duvalhasn't taken a traditional route
with being a comedian.
Right.
He'd been more of a musician thepast 10 years.

SPEAKER_02 (53:32):
I was just finna say, I ain't gonna lie to you, I
ain't never, I've never seen alittle Duval stand up.
That's back when he had locks,bro.

SPEAKER_03 (53:38):
Like he had to be.

SPEAKER_04 (53:39):
No, I mean I've never seen him stand up.
Even when he cut his hair, likehe started, it it got to the
point where he was capitalizingon everything.
He would just, he would, hewould walk out to his show, but
he would do his comedy show.
Yeah.
Like so.

SPEAKER_03 (53:53):
That's when he had that big toilet chain in it.

SPEAKER_04 (53:55):
And then um That's just when he when he had that
Living My Best Life song.
When it was popular for real,for real.

SPEAKER_03 (54:02):
Like he had shows on like MTV and everything, didn't
he?
Bro, like, yeah, he had some ofsome of everything pop off.
But I guess that's where theangle that I'm coming from,
because I feel like he gets alot of respect, even though he
didn't take the traditionalroute with like being a like a
comedian.
Full-fledged comedian.
Yeah, like a comic or whateveryou want to call it.

(54:24):
Like I feel like he kind of tooka different, a different lane,
but he still he made it work forhim.
And then this it's people who,like people, like Charlemagne,
the guy, it's always comedianssaying, like, bro, you should,
you should jump on stage, bro.
You be, you know, you be sayingsome stuff.
And then he got like thatpodcast with Andrew Schultz, and
they be going, you know what I'msaying, back and forth, toe to

(54:46):
toe.
But we would never in a millionyears consider Charlemagne a
comedian.

SPEAKER_02 (54:51):
Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 (54:52):
So it's just like operating those circles too.

SPEAKER_04 (54:56):
So it's kind of like you wouldn't you okay, now
here's the thing.
When you say you would never ina million years say that he's a
comedian.
Now, if he got on stage and wasfunny, then that's a different
story.
But because okay, now let me askyou this one.

SPEAKER_00 (55:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (55:13):
This might piss a couple people off.
Welcome to it.

SPEAKER_03 (55:17):
Considered T.I.
a comedian.
And see, you know what?
I haven't watched any of hisstand-up.

SPEAKER_04 (55:23):
I didn't ask you that.

SPEAKER_03 (55:24):
I haven't watched that.
I didn't ask you that.
No, I I mean it wasn't aquestion.
To your point, he's a comedianby profession.
He literally gets paid to get upon stage.
And but I think that's whatwe're saying.
I knew you'd find a strategicway to say no.
Because no, look, no, he'sdefinitely a comedian.

(55:45):
But I feel like that's whatwe're saying in the beginning.
That's why it's theprerequisite.
Because technically, bydefinition, that's the
professional way to say I'm acomedian.
It's by getting up on stage andtelling jokes.
That's the only way you can say,oh, I'm a comedian.
Everything else is up fordebate.

SPEAKER_04 (56:03):
And the thing is, I don't even think he would call
himself a comedian.
I think he would say that he'san artist that done comedy.
That does comedy.
That's doing comedy.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Like this is how I'm expressingmy art.
But but see, that that to me isa respectful, that's a res uh
person who respects comedy,though.

SPEAKER_03 (56:22):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (56:23):
He knows like, hey, I ain't I'mI'm, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just depending.

SPEAKER_03 (56:28):
But I think I remember him saying that like he
had to like earn his dues.
A lot of people was pissed offlike that he was even there.
Yeah.
Like, nigga, why you using yourfame to like you not even.
But then a lot of people saythat they they respect him now
because he has, he legit paidhis dues.
Like he go in there and he dowhat he's supposed to do.
He move out the way, he ain'tdoing nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (56:48):
For me, I respect it because he he not he's not being
funny about rap stuff.
He actually coming up withjokes.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it ain't like onetime, you know what I'm saying,
like you talking about storiesthat's that's funny being a
superstar.
Nah, he ain't doing that.
So I read that.

SPEAKER_03 (57:07):
Which is crazy, because you trip off of it, he
one of them people who we alwaystalk about, like, that nigga
funny, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (57:12):

SPEAKER_03 (57:13):
Like, he a funny dude.

SPEAKER_04 (57:14):
Yeah, but that's the thing, bro.
You never everybody be saying,like, hey man, you should do
comedy, you should do comedy.
Man, the funny dude around thetable ain't funny when he's
standing up in front of ahundred people.
It's a different type of funny.
We think he's funny, buteverybody don't think, bro,
funny.

SPEAKER_03 (57:33):
Because it's different being circumstantial,
bro.
And I think that's one of thearguments I wanted to make.
Being funny ain't for everybody,bro.
Everybody didn't find Bernie Macfunny.
Like, we was talking at this uhwhen I used to work at uh
Square, and this I remember thisgirl being passionate.
She was like, Kevin Hart is notfunny.
I don't laugh at none of hisjokes.
I've seen his stand-up, da da dada.

(57:55):
She was like going in on it.
And I think I was confused.
I was like, you ain't none ofthem.
Like, but some people just don'tfind comedians funny, you know
what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 (58:05):
So certainly, like certain comedians.
Some people just don't even,some people don't even think
stand-up is good at all.
Yeah, they'd rather just watch amovie, a comedy movie.
Like, I don't like comedymovies.
I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_03 (58:17):
Which is which is because you think about it, most
of them buddy.
Like most of them hello corny.

SPEAKER_02 (58:21):
So I'm good on comedy movies.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (58:24):
Like the old the only comedy movies that I look
at are back in the day.
Life.
Like, man.
Like, look, y'all don't even,y'all don't even understand.
Like, for me, Keenan Ivory Wayneis one of the funniest wins,
bro.

SPEAKER_05 (58:39):
Yeah, absolutely, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (58:41):
Like, dude did I'm Gonna Get You Sucker.
Yeah.
And Low Down, Dirty Shame.
Low Down, Dirty Shame.
Low Down Dirty Shame is thefunniest movie ever.

SPEAKER_03 (58:50):
Bro, that's one of my favorites.
And look, the little gay dude,rest in peace to him, bro.
Cause I didn't know.
He he died like apparently, Ithink he died before the like
the screening of the movie orsomething.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 (59:00):
It was like Wayman, brother.
Wayman.
Hey, dude, hey, dude, hey, hey,they said he got shot.
He was on the floor shaking hishead.
It was like, it's only wine.

SPEAKER_03 (59:11):
It's wine.

SPEAKER_04 (59:14):
Hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 (59:15):
Bruh when he hit him with that sausage.

SPEAKER_04 (59:17):
One one.

SPEAKER_03 (59:18):
No, like, bruh.
Hey, bruh.
That buddy had me.
Hey, dude.

SPEAKER_04 (59:22):
Hey, look, look.
Hey, hey.
Roll it.
Shane was in the bed.
Jada Pinkin had let him stayover or whatever.
And he slept in the bed.
And she was like, yeah, myfriend, you know what I'm
saying?
He's gonna come.
My friend gonna come home.
She ain't say nothing about it.
Man, he woke up.
It was getting all cozy, and itwas a it was a wig, like a hat

(59:45):
on it, a wig hat or somethinglike that.
And that motherfucker hopped up,like, hey.
I was like, oh my God.
He said, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02 (59:56):
Hey, bro.
They need to go check out thatmovie.
Yeah, absolutely.
You ain't never checked it out.
Classic, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:04):
And I think it's on Tubi for free.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:05):
So I just watched it like two days ago.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:09):
Yeah, bro.
Like, that's that's definitely aclassic.
Shout out to Tubi, nigga, forthe movie.
So, going back with theargument, bruh.
To my knowledge, Keenan IvoryWayne's has never done stand-up.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:21):
Keenan Ivory Wayne's created in Living Color.
We can skip the stand-up.
But you see what I'm saying?
Like, there's certain people whohad.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:30):
See how, see how you just gave him the out?
Let's say it's somebody likeDrewski.
Never does stand-up.
But like I said, he's givingother people opportunities
through him, and they've donestand-up and doing other things.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:42):
No, because Kenan Ivory Wayne.
Selective Negro.
Listen, Keenan Ivory Wayne wasactually funny, funny, but like
Drewski have some funny moments,but he not every video ain't
funny to me.
Like, huh?
What you mean, bro?
What you mean by that?

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:02):
That's just one of his things, bruh.
But like it's circumstantial.
It's like, it's like you gottaplug it into the right.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:08):
Yes, but I like so alright.
So some things are funny andsome things are like, all right,
but you going too far.
Like with trying to be funny.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:18):
Then that was that's that's not for you then.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:20):
Yeah, it's not.
So for me, Ken and Ivory Wayne'she can skip that.
Because for me, like like how Ilook at Ken and Ivory Wayne's,
he ain't he didn't necessarilyhave to do that because he
birthed a lot of them people,you know what I'm saying?
And it was he gave them aplatform, like in Living Color,

(01:01:41):
that's classic.
Drusky ain't got there yet wherehe could where we could say
that's a classic, and he putthese people on.
Okay, he ain't there yet.
That's uh I'll have to I'll haveto leave that there right now.
He it yeah, that shit downloadme.
That shit download me.
But you know what I'm saying?

(01:02:01):
For for and like now that yousay it, I don't necessarily want
to give him a pass, but it'slike and Living Color was
classic.
So I I would say that takesplace of his stand-up.
Like that right there wasclassic.
Like Eddie Murphy had a classicstand-up, that nigga had a

(01:02:22):
classic show.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:24):
Like, like his producer credits,like, it's it's crazy.
But that's that's like that'slike I ain't even gonna go that
way.
I was gonna bring up a wholenother director, but in my
opinion.
Then we ain't gonna know.
Yeah, like I'm like, yeah, y'allknow him because it's old boy
who uh it's Robert Townsend, oldboy who played media.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like respect.

(01:02:48):
But you see what I mean?
Like he got so many.
But I don't even want to go downthat rabbit hole, bro.
Like, we do that.
Don't do that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:55):
Cause look, my dude on 2K, he's a golden lord.
All of them got golden hair.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:59):
Hey, you remember, you remember GTA?
Golden Lords.
Hey, but y'all, y'all know thatactor, dude.
So the dude who was the head ofGolden Lords, he also played
Bird and the Five Heartbeats,right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:11):
You know who his son is, bruh?
The little light-skinnedAsian-looking dude from uh Green
Leaf.
And that used to be on DisneyChannel.
I gotta look it up again.
You know who I'm talking about?
I'm drawing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:21):
I'm gonna find it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:22):
Bro, like his name, like Roshan or something like
that.
But like I was like, hold up,that's his daddy, bro.
Somebody had posted it the otherday.
Cause I remember him from thislittle Disney show with Zendaya
and them on it.
Like, that's when I first methim, right?
And then now somebody had postedhim.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:36):
I'm like, nigga, what the hell?

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:38):
This nigga, I'm like, you it's always somebody
connected, bro.
Like, you never know.
It's always somebody cousin orauntie or something weird, bro.
But alright, so before we pivotto our last segment, because I
do want to make sure we leavethe people with a gym today, a
gem of some sort.
I got one more this or that fory'all, right?

(01:04:01):
So would you say you ratherwon't, or you rather say, which
one qualifies you as a comedian?
Respect from your peers or lovefrom the audience?
Right?
So would you say other comediansamening you and saying, yeah,

(01:04:22):
this is a real comedian, this issomebody I respect.
Like let's say Eddie Murphy comeout and be like, yeah, DC
Youngfly, one of the funniestpeople I that uh you feel like
that's more important, or youfeel like the love from all his
followers and fans and peoplethat that actually come out to
buy his stuff is more qualifyingas a comedian?

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:39):
I feel like the alright, so times have changed.
Back in the day, I feel like itwas peer.
You the you would have to relyon your peers.
Today, it's more of the audiencebecause like you think about you
think about uh Cat Williams andwhat he said on on Shay Shay and

(01:05:04):
stuff like that, you know whatI'm saying?
It really it really didn'ttarnish either one of their
careers for real.
Yeah.
It it didn't do anything, youknow, so that ridicule from one
of his peers didn't really doanything.

(01:05:25):
The audience still fucked withhim.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Back in the day, if Berniedidn't mess with Steve, he
wouldn't have been a king ofcomedy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:35):
Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:36):
Like back in the day, itmattered who who your peers was
and and and how they felt aboutyou, because you wouldn't have
been, you wouldn't have been onit.
It's kinda like it's kind oflike a LeBron situation.
If he don't want you on theLakers, you ain't gonna be on
the Lakers right now.
But like now, audience.

(01:05:57):
Back in the day, damn.
Yeah, I thought that's me,that's me and being indifferent.
Just the audience, because it'sall right, audience.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:07):
Cause they don't need them now.
They don't you don't need yourprayers to, you know what I'm
saying, blow up and explode tohave success.
Yeah.
And normally, like evennowadays, you're gonna get your
respect by having the money.
So it don't even matter.
As long as you wear about thefans and who your audience is
and cater to them.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:28):
You can buy friends now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:30):
That's that's respect, though.
Because one of my favorite, Iguess, I don't know, because he
our age, but he's more thisgeneration, but like Ryan Davis
for me.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:42):
He's been in he's been on my middle this whole
time.
I've been sometime.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:45):
He just I like his perspective on things.
It don't even be always thathe's funny.
It's just like I like how he heviewed the situation.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:53):
You got a problem with Ryan Davis, Monte?
No, I have a problem with whathe said about Michael Jordan.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:58):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's he's more of a LeBronfan than uh Yeah, he is when
they was in court.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:06):
Can't record it with him.
Look, dude is hilarious.
Like he's hilarious.
I I ain't even gonna say I had aproblem with it.
Like he stated some damn good.
I'm just gonna say it was a goodperspective.
Good argument.
I'm gonna rule you wrong.
I'm the judge this time.
You roll, you rule wrong.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:26):
I see.
And he the reason I brought himup is because he said that he
was like, from his perspective,it's more about the audience.
He was like, it feels good toget like big ups from the homies
and stuff like that to say,like, oh, this person's a good
comedian, but ain't nothing likethe Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:42):
It's like, why he why can't he break through?
We know he's we know he's has aname and a lot of people, like I
said, he got the respect for hispeers.
Yeah.
Well, the like the older peers,but I don't think like the
people that's in his groupnecessarily mess with him or
mess with him too.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:00):
I think that it's causing I think it's culture
related.
I think when we talk about thethe Russell Wilsons, he's not
that far on the spectrum, buthe's not necessarily the hood
type or the the you feel likeyou're gonna catch him with a
blunt or you know what I'msaying, kicking it with the
homies.
Like he's more so like yourfavorite cousin.
Like you're like, oh damn, mynigga, my nigga Ryan.

(01:08:21):
Like who can you compare it tofrom an older generation?
From an older gener?
I don't know.
He kind of him, he kind of hislike a new comedian to me.
Like he's like a new style ofcomedian.
Nah.
Nah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:32):
Because even Eddie Griffin was more like stylish
kind of like So to me, I don'tknow him personally, but it
seems as if he's not reallyoutgoing.
Like he's not, you know what I'msaying?
Like he said that yeah, he'slike, I'm I'm more like Yeah,
he's chill.
Like he ain't he ain't going tolike he's a regular person
that's funny.

(01:08:53):
Yeah, yeah.
That's how he he acts, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So I mean, if if that's how hewants to be, that's he really
not gonna show that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:03):
Also, he's trying to, I guess, do it a different
way.
I guess Netflix was trying tounderpay him for special, and
now he's doing like all hisstuff for free online and
everything.
So he's trying to go against thegrain.
So that's the mis that's thething you're gonna get some
going.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:18):
He's gonna make an impact.
He just probably won't be as bigas his talent would allow him to
be because he's not gonna fold.
And I I respect that about him.
Like I like that about him.
Listen.
But I think that fold, you gottafold.
It's just certain things.

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:32):
Listen.
Everybody saw Callan, CallinCapernate.
Yeah, yeah.
You wanna A.
You wanna you wanna live withpurpose or you wanna die for a
cause?

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:48):
That's how I look at it.
Are you telling me to shut upand dribble?

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:51):
No.
But I'm I ain't telling you toshut up.
I wouldn't say this is yeah,because it's it's like don't
shut up and dribble, but likesome people put themselves out
there and and and my thing isthis, they put themselves out
there for the hope of change.
But in reality, shit don'tchange.

(01:10:12):
It don't.
The shit gonna happen over andover again.
So you can be that person, like,yes, everybody's gonna know who
Colin Kaepernick is for probablyprobably like the next 20, 25,
30 years.
But eventually that shit's gonnafade away.
All that kneeling, that shit,that shit just stopped.

(01:10:34):
And it like a lot of peopledon't even remember that shit.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:40):
I think the goal is is for it to create a
conversation.
And create conversation createschange potentially.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:46):
I think that's what he cares more about too.
Like, cause not everybody caresabout the notoriety part.
Because what and hopefully I'mnot quoting brother wrong, but I
I could have sworn I heard himsay he gets to do what he loves
and like provide for his family.
And that's kind of enough.
Like he's gonna be able.
Okay.
But he was like, I don't reallyneed to be, I don't have to be

(01:11:09):
like the biggest comedian in theworld, type of thing.
Which, because I can I canrelate to that.
Because I've all all I've wantedis to be able to afford the
things I want to be able to do.
Like I ain't really worriedabout being Uber rich, having a
big yacht, you know, a bigmansion.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:23):
Yeah, but that kind of contradicts what he's
fighting for.
If Netflix underpaid him.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:30):
I think that was more about knowing his his worth
of the product.
Because it was because I don'tthink it was like, oh, they gave
him one million when he wasworth 10.
I think it was like some severeunderpayment bullshit.
I think it was like almostdisrespectful type shit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:45):
Just okay, but you just said, you just said, as
long as you good and you able toprovide, like, I get it, I get
it though, because it's likeit's a it's a it's a it's it
seems like disrespect at thispoint.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:59):
Cause and then you gotta think about it, because I
think he he gave the pretends tobe creating the example of his
daughter too.
Like he was, yeah, he was like,look, like this is a I'm making
a decision for my nextgeneration.
So I'm showing her like this ishow I'm doing, and he not like
just to have Netflix, just tosay, like, oh, I'm going to
Netflix.
Yeah.
Like I'm gonna I'm gonna say yesto this.
Like, I think that's how heframed it.

(01:12:20):
So it was more about like thelesson that he was talking about
during that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:25):
But dog, you know, all right, so put it like this,
bruh.
Like, we've both hired peoplebefore.
Yeah.
Right?
So when you think about theperson that comes in and acts
all nonchalant, but their resumeshows it's it's immaculate.
But we like, all right, we gonnagive you a try.
Now, if you come in here andoverperform, we got you.

(01:12:47):
We gonna pay you.
Now, Netflix could have did thesame thing.
All right, cool.
Because you so nonchalant andyou, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't know how this isgonna do.
Yeah.
So we gonna pay you this.
They might not have even saidit.
They might have been like justbehind the scenes.
We're gonna do this.
We just gonna see how it's gonnago.

(01:13:07):
Let's see if he accepts it.
And he was like, hell no.
But it's like, bro, you ain'tshowed me nothing.
To us, yeah, he goes, he's cool.
But to them folks, they like, wedon't know who you are, sir.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:20):
And I think that's what that's what the crazy part
was, because even statistically,his audience is more mixed.
Like his audience, you know whatI'm saying?
His audience is more, it's notnecessarily like a traditional
black audience that doesn'tcross over, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:34):
That was how that was totally totally high.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:36):
And no, you good.
It was just funny that he talkedabout that specific thing,
because I think other peoplethought about the same exact
situation.
They were like, okay, well,maybe they don't know who you
are.
And he was like, eh, it's kindof hard to say that when I have
10 million here, and you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like all these other numbersthat Yeah, but that doesn't
matter.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:50):
We already know that by based off what Monique was
talking about about Netflix.
They don't really care about thenumbers that you have outside,
you know.
First of all, I don't know whatthe hell they care about because
Netflix ain't never called me.
But anyway.
Hollering.
But no, I'm saying, like.
Just send us an email.
Yeah, send me, send, send, send,send Trenches the trophies an

(01:14:13):
email.
Send us an email and we'll talkabout, you know what I'm saying?
Shows and shit.
Like, but we're gonna takewhatever the hell Mr.
Davis didn't take.
Like, yeah, it's enough for us.
No, I'm joking.
But anyway, what the fuck are wetalking about?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:29):
All right, but no, I feel like this is a perfect time
because I we had some goodarguments, and I think that we
made a lot of good points onlike what we feel like a
comedian versus a comedic actoris, and and really dug into
that.
So, if you listening, appreciateyou sticking with us.
We about to pivot into our lastsegment.
Uh, and the last segment isgems, just something nice for
the people to hold on to,something that's related to the

(01:14:51):
topic if you can.
If not, just something somethinggood for the people to chew on.
What I got for the people.
Anybody got anything off the topof their mind?
Nah, man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:04):
This week, because I can only go off, I guess, this
week.
If that's how I'll be droppingmy gym, but it's been
copesthetic.
I just wanted some things thatI've seen on the internet, and
some things I've uh seen ineveryday life is kind of mind
your business.
Like, you know, like a lot ofpeople insert themselves into

(01:15:24):
certain situations and then itcan explode into other
situations that you didn't seecoming, and now it's
life-changing.
So I think see something, saysomething always, but if you
ain't got it and gotta get intoit, mind your business.
I'm weak.
Mind your business.
I ain't gonna go too much intoit with you know the stuff that
I've seen and stuff, but justmind your business.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:45):
I rust with that.
So if I had to leave the peoplewith a gym, I say don't force
it.
Right?
Don't force it.
Like why?
Cause what I what I find, right,is like so one of my favorite
things for people to do is totake a moment to reflect.
I feel like anytime you dosomething, especially if you do
something new, it's a good ideafor you to take a moment to

(01:16:07):
reflect on the situation andeven just ask yourself, like,
did I enjoy that?
Do I feel like that went well?
Whatever the case is.
I feel like that's a that's agood note.
And so when it comes toanything, when it comes to that
interview, when it comes tomeeting somebody new, when it
comes to like any new chapter inyour life, don't force it.
Just allow it to be exactly whatit is.
I feel like so many times we tryto fit into the perfect mode

(01:16:30):
because we want to be acceptedor we want to like get it right
that we forget to be our uniqueselves.
So we don't get the full lesson.
Cause we pretended to besomebody else.
So the lesson is for a differentperson that we was trying to
pretend to be.
It wasn't really for us.
So if you go into this, youremember nothing else, remember,

(01:16:53):
don't force it.
Alright, Mante, you gotsomething for the people?

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna give y'all I'm gonna give y'all
something that somebody gave meearlier this week, you know.
So regulate your emotions, youknow what I mean?
Like some people allow otherpeople's opinions or false

(01:17:19):
statements to like, you know,upset them and stuff like that,
you know what I'm saying?
But if you know who you are, youknow, you shouldn't be emotional
about what somebody else says toyou, you know what I'm saying,
or or care how much someone elsethinks about you or something
like that.
So, you know, just regulate youremotions, man.

(01:17:40):
Relax, relax, calm down, andthink about, you know, whether
it's worth it to either crashout or even say something back
to a person that don't know whatthey're talking about.
So regulate your emotions,regulate your emotions, man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:59):
What about my respect, Monte?

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:01):
Man, get your respect, you know what I'm
saying?

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:07):
So, this has been another episode of the Trick to
Jokers Podcast.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:13):
We out it's a good one.

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