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SPEAKER_04 (00:17):
Hi, welcome back to another episode of the Trinity
Trophies Podcast.
Three brothers, threeperspectives, and one mission
where we keep it real.
Today we're gonna talk about afew different things, and if
you've been rocking with us, youknow we switched up our flow a
little bit.
So today we're gonna start outwith a topic, and we're gonna
talk a little bit about someunpopular opinions, right?

(00:37):
Yup.
So, did y'all get a chance toreview?
Y'all got some unpopularopinions y'all wanna talk about?

SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
Really grinds my gears.

SPEAKER_04 (00:44):
Man, look, because I feel like it's a lot of things
cats don't say to go with thecrowd.
But it's a lot of things likethat I know I disagree with when
it comes to the public eye.
Such as Yeah, same.
I'm probably gonna rub a couplefolks the wrong way.
But me personally, right,especially as somebody who

(01:05):
recently got married, I neverunderstood the pressure to get
married from people who don'tnecessarily believe like in
religion.
Because if you trip off likewhere marriage came from, like
the foundation is religious,right?
So I never really understoodlike the obsession with it.

(01:30):
Right?
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 (01:31):
They read the vows from the Bible.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34):
That's what I don't understand.
Like you get a preacher, theycome up and they even if you
don't get a preacher, you getlet's say you get a friend,
right?
Because some people don't gothat route.
Some people get just somebodythey know that's cool to to
marry them or whatever, but theyusually start with the vows from
the Bible, right?
That's usually kind of howpeople seal things together.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49):
It is though.
It's other religions thatbelieve in marriage.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52):
But even so, they usually are based in
spirituality, right?
They're usually based in like abelief system.
I say that.
But it's a lot of people who arelike atheists or agnostic that
don't really have like thatbelief system, and they, you
know what I'm saying, they movea little different.
Cause like every, like you said,like there are different
cultures that have differentweddings.
I'm more so talking about, youknow, our culture, American

(02:13):
culture, right?
So I just never understood that.
Like, and I've said that to manypeople.
They be like, well, people canget married if they want to.
I ain't never I ain't say that.
Yeah, you absolutely can.
You do what you want.
I just didn't necessarilyunderstood, I don't understand
the obsession with it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
You know what I'm saying?
Some people look at it as just asocial contract.
It's not, it has it doesn't,they believe it doesn't have to
do, anything to do with God andthe religion.
It's just a contract between meand this other person.
So that's why they probably lookat it from their standpoint.

SPEAKER_04 (02:45):
Shit.
I mean, you could do that withanybody.
But you know, with any piece ofpaper, any piece of paper you go
get notarized is technically acontract.
You know what I'm saying?
Like at that point, I I just Idon't understand the formal I'm
getting a dress, I'm getting atuxedo.
We either go into a church or wego into something that resembles
like an altar where we're goingto, you know what I'm saying,
dedicate our lives to do that.

SPEAKER_01 (03:07):
It's psychological, bro.
You think about people thatbelieve that they're so in love
and marriage is the next thing.
It's not about God at thatpoint.
It's a way of life.
Some people it's just something,it's that dream that they had.

SPEAKER_04 (03:26):
But that's what I don't understand.
Cause like if you break, like, Iguess it's the definition of a
situation, right?
Because if I call myselfsomething, I relate to it.
I know, I know what itrepresents, right?
So, like, whether it was nomatter what you claim, no matter
what label you've givenyourself, you have some type of
meaning behind it, right?

(03:46):
Even with me, like if I say I'ma Christian, that means
practicing that, or I go tochurch, or like you know what
I'm saying?
Like, you there's stuff thatcomes with that.
So if I say I'm getting married,like understanding that the
definition of it is covenant,right?
And usually a covenant betweenthat couple and God.
So I don't understand thepurpose of calling it a marriage
or wanting to get married ifthat's not what you're doing in

(04:09):
the first place.
Call it something else.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I I I get what you'resaying as far as the social
construct, but don't that meanthat you're just doing it for
the hell of it?
You're not really doing itbecause of the meaning behind
it.
You're doing it because of thename.
It's because of their meaning.
It's not so you're giving it anew meaning.
You redefining us.
That's what I'm that's what I'msaying.

(04:29):
That's what I'm making somethingthat society does.
No, but you redefining it.
That's what society does.

SPEAKER_01 (04:33):
No, because I'm That's fair, but in in most
people's eyes, that's not whatmarriage is.
Marriage isn't about God.
You know what I'm saying?
Most people believe marriage isabout love and marriage is about
tying this knot with theirpartner.
You know what I'm saying?
It ain't about God.

SPEAKER_02 (04:52):
I think that's a good poll.
Like what is most people?
Yeah, I was I would think someit would be probably 60, 40, the
opposite way.

SPEAKER_01 (05:00):
Yeah, I do too.
But I but most people would feelthat way.
You know what I'm saying?
Like people that really didn'tthink about it that way.
And then you brought it to them,they like, oh wow, you know what
I'm saying?
Like, I guess that's what messedme up about it.

SPEAKER_04 (05:13):
Like, we do so much stuff that's just kind of
culture.
Like, we don't really, yeah, wejust be doing stuff.
But I guess that goes back intolike what we used to do as kids,
like the stuff we used to wear,like the style of the clothes,
the music we used to listen to.
We ain't really had no rhyme orreason why we were specifically
doing it.
We was just doing it becauseeverybody doing it.

(05:33):
You know what I'm saying?
Like, everybody I had to likeit.
But see, I feel like the reasonyou was even introduced to it,
though, is because ofpopularity.
It wasn't like you didn'tstumble upon 50 Cent.
It's because everybody waslistening to 50 Cent.
And so, you know what I'msaying?
Like nowadays, you had anability to discover new talent
because it's saturated market.
Most of us hear these art, heardlike artists around the same
time, whether they premiered ona radio or like a music video or

(05:56):
something.
I beg to differ.
Why you say that?
I didn't hear 50 Cent fromnobody.
Well, no, I'm not himspecifically, I'm just saying,
like, usually generally backthen it was different.

SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
For me, yeah, I mean, I saw him on TV.
Yeah.
But I saw him throwing away agyrol doll.
So then I heard him talkingabout weight.

SPEAKER_00 (06:17):
And I was just like, at first I was like, that's a
weak ass song.

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
But when I when I did some history out there, I
was like, yeah, that ishilarious.
So I I kind of learned stuff bymyself.

SPEAKER_04 (06:27):
But that, see, that, that to me, that makes you the
outlier.
That makes you somebody who didthings differently.
Most people, bruh, is popularopinion.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I, so one of my otherunpopular opinions is that I
feel like our culture isdestroying us.
Because we all want to be thesame person.
We all want to wear the sameshoes.
We all want to do the samething, and we don't, we've lost

(06:50):
the individuality that pushesthe culture forward.
That was the whole point.
And like that's why our musicain't the same.
It's because everybody'ssampling.
Everybody's going back andgetting their ideas from
somebody else's music ratherthan creating their own sound or
creating their own way.
It's the same thing withfashion.
Like a lot of the times, like,fashion niggas is fashion

(07:10):
niggas.
It used to be the fashion niggasthat influenced hip-hop.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that shit used to trickledown.
Now it's like, nah, we don'treally do what they doing, or
everybody's doing the exact samething.
Like everybody's going to theoversized shirts and the big
clunky shoes now.
Everybody's going to the chainson the pants with the flurred
out shit now.
Everybody's doing all the sameshit.

(07:32):
You see what I'm saying?
So it's like, that's just one ofmy things.

SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
We've all seen this before.
And our parents have seen itbefore.
You know what I'm saying?
So everything just comes backaround.
If you're trying to change thegame, just go back two couple
decades and see what they waswearing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:52):
Well, check this out.
I'm here to tell you niggas.
Them stack jeans is bellbottoms.
Them bootcuts, they bellbottoms, bro.
Like y'all really.

SPEAKER_02 (08:02):
They got some bell bottoms for real now.
Like dudes in Atlanta like themwearing.
That's what I'm saying.
That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 (08:09):
That's cool on y'all.
Flirred out.
Super flurred out, bro.
Like room bouncing around.
Yeah, I ain't with all that.
Mushroom paint.

SPEAKER_02 (08:16):
Pepsi Helmut, parachute paint.

SPEAKER_04 (08:18):
Right, bro.
I mean, and I ain't hating,because again, it's fashion.
But I also, like, if you talk tomost people, they don't have a
rhyme or reason why they'rewearing it.
Like, it's cause everybody elseis wearing it.
Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (08:31):
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Like, a lot of people just wearwhat's trendy, you know?
Like.
The merch.
Yeah.
Hey.
Yep.
Some stuff is cool, bro.
I ain't gonna lie.
I I almost, but see, I'mdifferent because I almost fell
into that category.
You know what I'm saying?

(08:51):
I got one of them little thingsand I took that joint back.

SPEAKER_00 (08:56):
It wasn't for me.
My satchel.
I couldn't even, I couldn't evenwear it with a jacket, bro.
Like I was trying to hide it andeverything.

SPEAKER_02 (09:03):
That was a European thing.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 (09:05):
They've been doing that over there.
But but they they havetraditionally, you go back
hundreds of years, they alwaysbeen a little different.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't gonna touch too much onthat, but like they always have
been a little bit more eccentricwhen it comes to their sexuality
and expressing those things.
So it's like that's where ourinspiration coming from.
But that's what I'm saying.

(09:26):
We don't even trip off of it.
Like, as a culture, I mean, notlike us individually.

SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
We need to get back to always being the
trendsetters, because that'swhat we always been.
Yeah.
Other cultures have alwayspiggybacked on ours.

SPEAKER_04 (09:35):
And it's still, it's still that way.
I just feel like we're not asbold and setting those trends as
we used to be.
Like we used to be realestablished in it, but now it's
kind of like, I feel like weexperiment.
I feel like we're in this weirdperiod of time where it's like
nothing is final.
Like everybody's still kind oftesting the waters, everybody
dipping their toe and shit.

SPEAKER_01 (09:54):
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, bruh, that's why I agreewith the culture's killing us,
because they just doinganything.
Like, any and everything, bruh.
Like, it's crazy because theywanna they wanna live the
entertaining, the entertainerlife, right?

(10:16):
But what they don't realize isthese people are entertainers.
You know what I'm saying?
They get paid to entertain youand talk that shit.
But you trying to live it andthen rap it, which that's what
kind of ruined hip hop for real,you know, this drill nonsense
shit.
You know what I'm saying?

(10:36):
Like people telling peopleactually they ain't even telling
people, they telling onthemselves.
You know what I'm saying?
They rapping their real life,telling you on some stupid shit,
but you know, it's it's ruiningeverything because everybody
wanna do that.
Everybody wanna go get theDraco, everybody wanna go get
the AR and all of this, bro.

(10:57):
Like, it ain't even necessary,bro.
Like these kids are doing stupidstuff.

SPEAKER_04 (11:00):
Which is crazy to me, bro.
Cause if you I so if you stepback and you look at our
culture, most of the cats who werespected growing up wasn't even
gangsters.
Like, take, for example,Outcast.
Well, Big Boy and Andre ThreeStat, they weren't no gangsters,
bro.
We looked up to them justbecause they was authentic.
Even Wayne, he talked that shit,bro, but we didn't listen to

(11:20):
Wayne because of that.
Like, that wasn't the it was thecountry shit.
It was the coming from thegutter shit, but it wasn't
necessarily the ride around townsliding on niggas doing this and
shit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it wasn't that, thatwasn't the music we was
necessarily looking for.

SPEAKER_02 (11:35):
But what about gangster rap, the genre?

SPEAKER_04 (11:37):
I think I think that's the problem.
It was a genre.
Now it's like our whole identityinstead of it being a section of
what the fuck we control.

SPEAKER_02 (11:46):
Subgenres, subgenres.
Yeah, yeah.
But think about it.

SPEAKER_01 (11:49):
Yeah.
But think about this though.
Even though they was talkingabout doing gangster stuff, they
was talking about getting money.
And it was calling.

SPEAKER_04 (12:00):
If they wasn't coming out and saying it
directly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (12:02):
Like.
That's the thing.
They was talking in thirdperson.
Or talking about somebody else.
The difference is these niggastalking about their activities
about themselves.
Instead of saying, Instead ofsaying that.
Right.
Instead of saying, I know thisperson, I know this dude right
here doing that.

SPEAKER_01 (12:17):
Don't get me wrong.
I listen to it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's entertaining.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
But like the right, the rightdrill stuff.
Like, I don't be listening tojust any type of music.

SPEAKER_02 (12:30):
Except the right, the correct drill.

SPEAKER_01 (12:31):
Yeah, the correct drill.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause some of these dudes, someof these dudes be just sounding
like they crashing out justevery time.
Every single song a crash outsong.
I'm not gonna put nobody outthere.
I ain't gonna put nobody outthere.
I sure saw something.
I was like, bro, this isterrible.
And you you you sound like youjust crashed out every single

(12:53):
day.

SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
So what's your um unpopular opinion then?
You got something?

SPEAKER_01 (12:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (13:00):
What was it?
I could since we on culture, Ican go ahead and flip mine off
when we do that.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I think mine kind of fall in thesame vein.
Nah, so mine is that most of thechildren today are disrespectful
because they were raised bydisrespectful baby kid adults.

(13:23):
Like they were disrespected bytheir parents.
So, and then they also feel liketheir child has to earn respect.
So that's why I don't like withthis generation and this culture
and these parents, is thatrespect your children too.

SPEAKER_04 (13:43):
I feel like your opinion is probably more popular
than you think, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think that that's theproblem though.
It's so, we so quiet.
Cause it's a lot of, I agree,it's a lot of like bad parents
and like people, immatureparents.
I say that it's a lot ofimmature parents trying to raise
kids and they they instillingthe wrong values in them.
But I think it's a lot of us onthe sideline, like shaking our

(14:04):
heads.

SPEAKER_02 (14:05):
Hey, like not saying nothing though.
Yeah, yeah.
You're not saying nothing, andthen scared to say something
because you now you're thinkingabout the repercussions that
you're gonna receive from theother parent.
Me as a barber, that's onething, like, that's kind of why
I had put my age reins of thekids that I cut.
But, you know, for some reasonI've been getting hit up more
for younger c younger kids.

(14:26):
So I've been taking them, but Ikind of predicated off how
they're gonna react after thatvery first appointment.
If I could tell that you'regonna probably be an issue, and
then if I could tell that you'reprobably gonna have a problem,
me talking to your child,telling them to sit down how I
want them to, I'm not taking youno more.

SPEAKER_06 (14:43):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 (14:44):
Because I should be able to, for this hour, 30
minutes, or whatever the casemay be, talk to your child and
instruct them and be stern withthem and how I said, and then
not be an issue.
You know what I'm saying?
But some parents, they gonnahave a whole all type of smoke
for you.
You talk to their kid a certainway.

SPEAKER_04 (15:02):
And they kids could be dead wrong, bro.
It do not matter.
So it's some parents who just,like you said, because they
wasn't defended when they waskids.
So now they carrying that chipon their shoulders.
So now if you say something thatset, they feel like you set them
off, the kid could probably befine.

SPEAKER_02 (15:18):
But Or it could be the flip.
They've received that so muchfrom their parent.
And now they're bleeding that onto their kid.
You know what I'm saying?
That's their trauma.
Go ahead, Monte.

SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
Nah, I was just I was just thinking because even
though even though I would allowthat, like as a parent, it's
just certain it's just a certainlike way that I'm like, alright,
that's enough, type shit.
You know what I'm saying?

(15:50):
But it depends.
Like I'm I'm good with theinstruction, you know what I'm
saying?
But like I'm also their parentand be like, alright calm all
that shit down, you know whatI'm saying?
Like it I've I've been insituations like that.
Not saying you like that, butI've been in situations where
they're like where you had totalk to somebody else about how
they're gonna be able to getaway.
Yeah, like grabbing the head acertain way, like, you know what

(16:13):
I'm saying?
Like, you know Bro, my son, bruhYou know how he act in the
chair.
Now somebody else was cuttinghim, and I'm like, hey, don't
grab his head like that, youknow what I'm saying?
I know he's flinching and allthat.
Just you know what I'm saying.
If you if you mess up, bro, youmess up.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't don't grab his head likethat.
I just had to check somebodybefore.

(16:34):
You know what I'm saying?
Not necessarily necessarilytalking to him, you know what
I'm saying?
Because he didn't he didn'ttalk, he just used his hands,
and I'm like, hey, you doing alittle too much.
How you know I squeezed thathard?
It was it was the motion, bruh.
And you know, broke the fast.
Yeah, but but y'all also know myson, though.
Yeah, he's a character, bruh.
He might, you know what I'msaying?

(16:54):
But I'm just gonna react tothat.
Yeah, you know, so I'm I but atthe same time, I'm like, just
watch yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, just watch yourself.
And I and I I ain't doing on no,hey, hey, hey, bro, you
tripping.
Nah, I was like, hey, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like, hey, just don't yank hishead, you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 (17:11):
You should draw the line.
But I feel like that should befine.
To me personally, I feel likewe've gotten so soft, bro, when
it comes to correction and stufflike that.
Just correction in general.
When it comes to that, likegrowing up, I feel like you was
able to be a lot more candidwith people.
You could just kind of say whatwas on your mind or what you was
feeling or thinking, and peopledidn't get as sensitive.

(17:33):
I think nowadays everybody is soworried about their image and
shit that it's kind of like.

SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
You know the reason why that that's probably another
reason why is because thatvillage that we talk about is is
gone.
Everybody said it takes.
And what you think that's thecontributing factor to people
not having that village?

SPEAKER_04 (17:52):
I mean, I feel like the matriarchs are gone.
Like, or even patriarchs, right?
I ain't gonna put it all on thewomen, but like I feel like
there's always kind of that thatkey person.
Like, whether it's a grandma,grandpa, uncle, auntie, whoever
it is in your family, it'snormally like a single person.
You either go over their housefor holidays or you talk like,
you know what I'm saying?
Like maybe they had all thekids, right?

(18:12):
The grandma that had 10 kids,and so everybody kind of come
from her.
So it's I feel like we lost thatin today's day and age.
We don't have the the grandpasor the grandmas that's like
actually keeping the communityalive.
Even even us as uncles andaunties now, because shout out
to my 90s babies, we the unclesand aunties now.
Like, we kind of control theflow of are we throwing

(18:34):
barbecues?
Are we trying to put togetherfamily reunions?
Are we going over other people'shouse?
Are we only just staying at ourhouse?
Like, we we gotta kind of branchback out.
I feel like, again, I feel likethat's part of us being soft.
Everybody offended, everybodyalways into it with each other.

SPEAKER_02 (18:49):
You know what I'm saying?
They're not around, but Monte,like, why do you think they're
not around?
Why aren't the patriarchs andmatriarchs around?

SPEAKER_01 (18:56):
Because they got their own lives now, bruh.
Like, the grandmas, like I saidbefore, no shame, huh?
But they grandmas, you know whatI'm saying?
They they they got their ownlives, you know.
But my mom, on the other hand,she's a grandma, but she
actually she's there for hergrandkids, you know what I'm
saying?
Some of these grandmas are like,hey, them your kids, you know

(19:19):
what I'm saying?
Keep them kids over there.
I raised my kids.
I ain't really saying that'sjust how some grandparents are.
You know, if them kids are beingwell, you gotta think about that
too.
If the grandma being like that,then what the mama like?
You feel me?
Like it's so the kids, the kidsnowadays just don't respect you

(19:40):
know what I'm saying?
And like I think I said thisbefore on one of the older
podcasts.
Like, they don't respect becausethey they are their parents
don't be respecting people.
They see how their parents beacting and stuff like that, you
know what I'm saying?
So why would they respect stufflike that?
They probably don't even respecttheir parents, you know?

(20:01):
So they gonna go out there andnot respect the OGs and not
listen to the OGs and none ofthat.
They think they know it all andthey gonna go do something
stupid.
That's just how that's just howit is, but like this it's crazy,
bro.
Like, I don't even know if thatis the issue though, and like
the the the matriarchs, becauseeven if it was a matriarch at

(20:27):
this point, I don't think thatthe kids would listen to him.
Period, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (20:34):
Like I think at the end of the day, cause we can go
a little bit deeper into it.
I can just say this because spinit back to you, and but I think
because the matriarchs have hadto be the um forefront,
forefront of the family and theleader of the family because the
patriarchs were taken out andwho they taken out by.

(20:57):
Government.

SPEAKER_04 (20:58):
I'm like, yeah, it depends on who you say.
If you want to say that racist,like, yeah, like so white
supremacy in general, yeah,whatever you want to know.

SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
That had a damning effect on our culture.

SPEAKER_04 (21:09):
Yeah.
I agree with that.
I mean, I agree with thatwholeheartedly.
I um to your point, it's kind offunny what did you say that,
Mante, like, you don't think thekids, even if we had the like
the matriarchs or the patriarchsin place, you don't think the
kids would listen to them.
But I think that's kind of likea catch 22, because if they were
in place, I don't think we wouldhave had as much movement like

(21:32):
when it comes to like the kidsbeing separated from the home or
like away from the rules andshit.
Cause when I see families that'slike deep, like grandma and
grandpa had 10 to 12 kids, theykids had 10 to 12 kids,
everybody got hella siblings andthey all kind of linked
together, them kids will be badoutside of them cribs.
Yeah.
But if grandmas like pop up,it's a problem.

(21:53):
You know what I'm saying?
So like I feel like it's stillin place in some areas.
It's just that our culture hasgotten away from it.
Like, even movies, bro.
Like, if you if you peep themnow, like you said, it's
grandmas everywhere.
Like, ain't nobody a regulargrandma.
Everybody, grandma iced out,tight dressed, wanna young
thundercat.
Like everybody grandma is likethat now in the media.
Ain't nobody the old schoolgrandma with a gown on, with

(22:16):
that little fat jiggly, and youknow what I'm saying, burning
something up in the kitchen.
Like, that's what that's what Igrew up on.
Like, when I think about mygranny, bro, that my granny,
bro.
Like, she legit is a granny,bro.

SPEAKER_02 (22:27):
We talking about TV days.
What's a good TV mom?

SPEAKER_04 (22:30):
A good, I mean, forever for me, it's gonna be
Felicia Rashad as, you know,Mrs.
Cosby.
Like, what you mean?
Like, as far as TV moms.
That's the standard.
That's that's who is better thanher?
Like, you could argue ain't vivtechnically, but nah.

SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
Monte Stewin, he's sticking, he's thinking of
something, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (22:48):
Who you who you thinking of?
As a mom?
As a as like a TV mom?

SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
Yeah, I keep Xing everybody at the you said
Felicia Rashad, like that.
Bro, it's like every time I goto a city.
Claire Huxtable, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (23:00):
Claire Huxtable, bro, that's ultimate TV mom.
Because she was, she'd have funwith you.
She'll get with yourmotherfucking ass.
And she was smart as hell.
She was a lawyer.
So it's just like.

SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (23:10):
You know what I mean?
She was kind of covering allbases.
But that's just my argument asfar as like.

SPEAKER_02 (23:15):
I don't know if somebody would say Medea.

SPEAKER_04 (23:17):
What?
I ain't gonna lie, though.
Medea saved a lot of kids fromuh no matter.
Yeah, but I guess it's built.
I I guess that is based off ofyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody else.
But I mean, that's that's toeach his own, you know what I
mean, as far as like what youbelieve in.
Because some people, some peoplegot gay grandmas, bro.
And they gay grandma, theygotta, that's their foundation.

(23:38):
That's all they've known.
Some people got the grandma thatwas there for their grandpa who
slept around the city, and theygot cousins literally in all
points of the country.

SPEAKER_01 (23:49):
Yeah, bro.
It's like shit has changed forreal.
Like, but I don't know, bro.
Like, and it's a ton of grandpasout there that wasn't there
because of cheating.
Just wasn't there.
Right.
They said they was working, butthey had another family on the
side of the.
No, they were working.

(24:09):
They were providing for thathousehold, but they just wasn't
there.
They was working, but they wasalso doing their thing.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why they were neverthere.

SPEAKER_04 (24:19):
But that I feel like the rules changed, because I'll
say this, bro.
Society dictates usually what aman does.
Like back in the day, that'swhat they told you a man did.
A man went and worked.
If you wasn't working, if youwouldn't bring home a paycheck,
you wasn't a man.
Same thing when it comes to likelabor, right?
Same thing when it comes to thewoman with providing food and
stuff like that.
Like you said, times havechanged.

(24:40):
The culture has changed.
Now you got where it used to betaboo for a man to be in the
kitchen cooking, you got uh malechefs everywhere now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like now it's a lot moreaccepted because we've kind of
broken down some of thosebarriers.
But on that same token, we gotwomen who are not necessarily
being the traditional housewife.
Now they want to be out, youknow, making money, traveling,

(25:02):
doing their thing, making like,you know, entrepreneur, creating
businesses, doing their thing.
So now it's like the foundationhas shifted.
Like what does the traditionalhome look like today?
You know what I mean?
And I think I think we stillfiguring that out.
I don't know if that's reallythere's really an answer to
that.

SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
You know what I'm saying?
But this is this is gonna beyeah, predicated off your own.
Which I think is cool foreverybody.

SPEAKER_04 (25:27):
But and I think to circle it back around, that's
why I said the unpopularopinion, our culture is killing
us.
Because we don't havedefinitions for nothing no more.
Like everybody is trying to beone thing, even with the whole
traditional thing.
Like they look at being atraditional housewife as
negative now, and everybodywanna be, oh, you a free woman.
You can't let people tell youwhat to do, da da da.
And I feel like there should bea healthy balance.

(25:49):
You gotta, you got your yourwomen who's single, they want to
be, you know, the favoriteauntie, the rich auntie.
You got the women who wannasettle down early and have, you
know, eight to ten kids and notwork, you know what I mean?
Like that's do what you want todo.
I don't feel like it should belike a culture dictating, like,
this is what everybody should bedoing, or this is what everybody
should be looking like.

(26:09):
You know what I mean?
But I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 (26:12):
Cause I can't lie.
When I like I've been watchingsome of these, like Southwest
baddies and the Bratt's houseand stuff like that.

SPEAKER_06 (26:25):
People be like, bitch, you 53?

SPEAKER_00 (26:27):
That what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
No, it ain't even that, bruh.
They look the same, bro.
What you mean?
Like most of them just look thesame.
They, you know, like the outfitsthat they wear, the hair that
they can.
Oh, you talking about everybodya cardestrian clone, right?
Yeah, copy and paste.
Yes, bro.
Like, it's like, it's like,dang.
Like some of them do have they,you know, like individual, some

(26:49):
individuality, you know what I'msaying?
Some of them do.
It's but for the most part, it'slike, most of y'all looking the
same.
Most of y'all wearing the sameshoes, the same dresses, you
know what I'm saying, the samehairstyles.
It's like, hey, bro, like, it'sgetting old.
And to me, the question comes upis like, what are y'all looking

(27:09):
for?
Like, what are y'all lookingfor?
What are y'all, what's thepurpose?
You know what I'm saying?
And then that's the same withthe males.
Like you you want to look likesomebody else, but what's the
purpose, bro?
Like, what are you trying, whatare you going after?
What are you if you if yougetting Balenciaga shoes and and
Louis V belts and all of that togo to the club, what you doing,

(27:32):
bro?
What you for who?
You know?

SPEAKER_04 (27:34):
Yeah, like for what?
Like what's what's your purpose?
Legitimately, like, what do youhave you thought this out?
Are you trying to do that?
Have you thought out the plan,bro?

SPEAKER_01 (27:40):
You trying to get the baddest chick in the club or
are you trying to look the bestin the club?

SPEAKER_04 (27:43):
What you know?
Hey, so I seen this thisInstagram video and the girl was
talking about that.
She was like, girls in cars arethe same.
She was like, you know how yougo car shopping, right?
Yeah.
And you see this nice car andyou like, oh, dang, that mug
nice.
And then you you research howmuch it costs to maintain that
car, and you'd be like, oh yeah,I can't afford$90 oil changes

(28:04):
and stuff like that, right?
You use you back up off of it.
She was like, females are thesame way.
Don't go get the baddest chickin the room, and then you
realize she asking you for allthis stuff, saying, I want this
kind of purse, these shoes,that's what costs.
Exactly.
You got to understand that wasthe that's the maintenance costs
for that.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
If that ain't what you want,she's she was like, go get a
Honda.

(28:26):
Ah, that should have you weak.
But it made hella sense, though.
And I feel like if if if morepeople simplified it, we would
be all right.
I feel like we live our life socomplex, bro, because we don't
think anything through.
Everything is surface level.
If we just sat and broke itdown, bro, like instead of
trying to take it all at onetime, just break it down into
bite-sized pieces.
You would understand a lotquicker how you make decisions

(28:49):
based on other people more thanyou make them based on what you
want or what you think is bestfor your life.
You know what I mean?
But alright, let's pivot.
Because I feel like we talkabout this enough, we're gonna
get somebody in trouble.
Cat's gonna start talking aboutthis in the car, like, yeah, so
what you think about?
Alright, but I got somethingthat's still a little a little
spicy.

(29:09):
So, I know we talked about thisa little bit ahead of time, but
like, did y'all catch Cameronand the Adrian Bronus situation?
Yes, indeed.
Man, alright, so I'm gonna playit because I want y'all to hear
it.
And then we'll we'll talk aboutit again.

SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
You look so good in person.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Hey.
What what you wasted at?
I love you.
But a guy.
I'm sorry.
I'm my bad, y'all.
My bad.
Arabia, is that a realbackground?
Hey, Stack, can you stopsmiling?
Can you stop smiling?

(29:52):
Hey, Arabia is.

SPEAKER_05 (29:53):
Now your bro or some bro.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh.
Oh shit.
I told you that.
My bad, my bad.
It's all like.
Okay, we guess we can move on tofootball, then.
Oh my God.
Yes, that lets you do thefootball.
I guess that answered thequestion about Floyd.
When I see, when I see youtaking off some time.

SPEAKER_03 (30:17):
This nigga here, bro.
I did not know you looked thatgood in person.

SPEAKER_05 (30:21):
My bad, bro.
You amazing.
All right, hey, we're gonna haveto actually go, my nigga.
I mean, I have to ask you to go,man.
I'm gonna pay you for your time.
For being here.
I appreciate you.
And I love you, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03 (30:36):
I'm not doing it again.

SPEAKER_05 (30:38):
Yeah, no, no, no.
I can't.
Actually, the first time, Idon't have no problems with you.
I'm gonna pay you for your time.
But you can't violate, bro.
I told you that.
I'm not, though.
I'm not.
I told you niggas' boyfriendsare here.
You know more my brother'snigga.

SPEAKER_03 (30:52):
My bad, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (30:52):
My bad.
No, no.
But I appreciate your time.
It's me.

SPEAKER_03 (30:56):
It's me.

SPEAKER_05 (30:57):
Well, if you want to wait for us outside, you could,
but I'm not gonna say and notvalue your time either.
If you wanna wait for us, youcould, bro.
I appreciate it, bro.
You gotta step out.

SPEAKER_04 (31:18):
Alright, and so as you hear, Cameron asks Adrian to
step out after he consistentlyviolates by flirting with the
co-host on their podcast, right?
And you can see if you if youpeep gang, they tried to ring it
in a couple of times.
And if I was Cameron, I probablywould have reacted a little bit
stronger because you alsointerrupted me.

(31:39):
Like I'm I'm trying to get on tothe next subject.
I'm talking.
I'm literally talking aboutsomething, and you man, she's so
pretty, man.

SPEAKER_01 (31:49):
Like, bro, like you tripping.
I don't know, well, I don't knowCameron personally, but if
you've if you followed Cameron,like the his his background, you
know what I'm saying?
He was on that at that point.
You know what I'm saying?
And he was, he really was like,you gotta go, bruh, like for

(32:09):
some shit happen.
You know what I'm saying?
So, first of all, he said, Itold you.
I told you already.
So that for me.

SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
Sound like they had a prior conversation prior.

SPEAKER_01 (32:19):
A prior conversation, bruh.
And really you deserve to gethurt, but we gonna have to
excuse you, you know what I'msaying?
And like, I ain't got noproblems with you, but me
personally, I feel like I ain'tgot no problems with you and all
that.
That's for the camera.
Cam probably ain't gonna messwith him no more.
You know what I'm saying?
He probably, that's probably hislast interview with them.
He probably finna lose hisnumber, all that.

SPEAKER_02 (32:42):
So I think, first, first and foremost, I think Cam
handled that the right way.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, for sure.
And I think in every way, youknow, because some people look
at their like, why he pay him?
I think the end of the day,yeah, he still paid him, like
you said, paying for his timebecause he came out there and
stuff like that.
He was there.
I think that the thing is aboutA B, if you've been following A
B, he's been coming down fallingfrom grace, you know what I'm

(33:06):
saying?
For the last few years.
And he's been having substanceabuse issues.
I feel like dude was probablyinebriated at that time, too.

SPEAKER_04 (33:14):
Yeah, for sure.
It sounded like he wasdefinitely under the influence
of something.

SPEAKER_02 (33:18):
Alright, so look, I know we ain't gonna some people
don't want to hear this, but Iseen this going around social
media in regards to the clip.
Yeah.
How you think the female handledit?

SPEAKER_04 (33:29):
I saw I saw that too, right?
I saw it was kind of split onsome people saying like she was
too giggly, and then otherpeople were saying like y'all
misunderstand.
That was her trying to likenervous laugh to like kind of
keep it going.
You know what I'm saying?
And to be honest, so the otherclip I had played beforehand, I
thought it was the right clip.
It looks like she wasuncomfortable.
Like when they tried to likekind of get things back going,

(33:52):
she did actually lookuncomfortable with everything
that was going on.
I think sometimes you gottaunderstand this as well.
Women love compliments, so it'sokay to smile if somebody says
something nice.
Yeah.
However, I did I think that wasa great professional move
because had she been moredisgusted or reacted a certain
way, the boyfriend that wasthere probably would have also

(34:13):
tripped out.

SPEAKER_02 (34:14):
Exactly.
That's why I also commendedCameron on that because if I was
a boyfriend, yeah, I'd have beenhated and some guys would have
did the wrong thing and reactingon this guy's show.

SPEAKER_06 (34:24):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (34:24):
And Cameron nipped it in the butt because he like
he told him twice, like, like Itold you her dude here, you
know, she got a situation.
Like, so him stepping in andhandling it how he did was kudos
to him too, because like I said,he was trying to also look out
for her situation.
Yeah.
Some guys just even though theyshow homie and stuff like that,

(34:45):
they come on a podcast that I'veseen, they'll let the other dude
who coming under their dude gettheir issue off.
Yeah, flirting with that female.
You know what I'm saying?
Almost dig it on type stuff.
Right, because they're notrespecting her relationship,
they not respecting the guy thatshe with.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think that's that's fluky.
Some real motion.

SPEAKER_01 (35:03):
He ain't like, he don't need that.
You know what I'm saying?
And is is at that point, it'sit's it's it's based off being
real.
So if you if that's what yougonna do on here, go ahead and
pack it up, bro.
Like, that ain't what we doinghere.

SPEAKER_04 (35:17):
That's what I think that's what I respect about it
too, because not only did hestand up, shout out to him
protecting the woman in thatsituation, the black woman
situation, but he stood on someman shit with somebody he knew.
Yeah.
Cause most niggas, if you'refamiliar with a motherfucker
that's your friend or whatever,you kind of let him get away
with murder in a lot ofsituations.
But he stood on that shit.
And he wasn't giggly.

(35:38):
He wasn't like trying to laughand make it a uh like a
sugarcoating situation.
He was like, nah, nah, I I Igotta ask you to step out.
You could wait for me.
We could, we could chop it upafter this.
But I'm I'm gonna have to askyou to step out.
And then walked up on him andlike, hey, no, I I need you to
get up and get out.

SPEAKER_01 (35:55):
Most people think that standing on business is
like this this term of to jokeabout.
Like, it really ain't, bro.
Like, that's when you standingon business, you a stand-up guy,
bro.
Like, you that's that's justwhat it is.
Most people, like you said,won't say nothing when when they
when they partners around andstuff like that.
But that's that says a lot aboutyou as a person.

(36:16):
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you you can't just leteverybody get away with things,
but like for one, that's walkingover you because you ain't
standing up for the person thatyou supposed to be standing up
for.
So, yeah, you're right.
Shout out to him for standing upand kicking that nigga out
because he like he violated,bro.

SPEAKER_04 (36:36):
Like, you know On multiple levels, too, because it
wasn't just with the co-host,bro.
This business.
We supposed to be here.
I'm supposed to be interviewingyou, you supposed to be a part
of my podcast.
Like, I get paid for this, youknow what I'm saying?
I'm I'm paying for this spaceand this time to record this
stuff.
Like, and you you playing gameswith me.
Like, that's another thing.
Like, this this is aprofessional platform, bro, and
you out here doing everythingbut contributing to the actual

(36:57):
podcast.
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (36:58):
He wasting all the time talking about, oh, you're
beautiful, man.
Hey, I ain't gonna lie, he I'dhave kicked him out too, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (37:06):
That's because also he was, you know, ducking and
dodging those questions aboutFluid.
Yeah.
So that's why it's a lot ofthose instances when he was
doing that, he was trying toduck those questions about
Fluid.

SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
He could have said next.

SPEAKER_04 (37:18):
Right.
I mean, and even like you justsaid, he could have, he could
have done the same and stood onbusiness.
Like, hey, look, I ain't talkingabout him.
Y'all can ask me anything else.
And then moved on.
Because if you ask if I continueto ask you, just don't say
nothing.
Just sit there.

SPEAKER_01 (37:30):
I mean, but he Just someone just look at you like
you're crazy.
Honest, Adrian Brona was never aprofessional type of person.
I mean, even in the media.

SPEAKER_04 (37:40):
Yeah, even in the ring, bro.
He was antics.
None of that.

SPEAKER_01 (37:43):
Honestly, like.

SPEAKER_04 (37:45):
He was selling tickets.
It's on brand type shit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (37:47):
Yeah, you know, like him being just stupid, just
doing stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (37:52):
Which, alright, but and that's the thing.
So I just I really just wantedto do a post check on that
because I was like, Cass had tosee this.
But some because some peoplefeel like Cameron did too much.
They was like, oh, you couldhave just kept going with the
episode, da da da.
Why?
Blah, blah, blah.
Because some people feel like itwasn't that deep.
They was like, he wasn't sayingnothing too bad.
He was just, you know what I'msaying, saying she was.

SPEAKER_01 (38:12):
And them people that don't stand on business.

SPEAKER_02 (38:15):
Now though, I did see that it was a clip that came
out of him discussing it on thatsame episode.
You know what I'm saying?
Over the airwaves alive.

SPEAKER_06 (38:24):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 (38:25):
I wouldn't have did that.
I handled how that was how Ifeel like it should have been
handled, and I would have datedit.
I wouldn't have probablydiscussed it.
Wouldn't have brought it backup.

SPEAKER_01 (38:33):
Alright, now we're gonna go back into the people
who do it for the content.
I mean hey, that was hiscontent.
You know what I'm saying?
Like his show was professional,but he does stuff for content,
just like he did with Omar.

SPEAKER_02 (38:47):
I ain't even see it.
I still seen that, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (38:49):
Them niggas, bro.
I gotta.
I heard some clips, and thatshit just had me weak.

SPEAKER_01 (38:53):
Hey, hey, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 (38:55):
Like, that's why he paid him.
He paid for less.
He paid for less.
Like, he paid more for less,bro.
Like, he threw this man out ofthe city.
Cameron funny, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (39:06):
Fake.
If you keep off of it, bro,since we know Cameron, that
nigga been a jokester, bro.
He's always been clowning oncats.
Him and Mace, you know what I'msaying?
Like, I feel like that's been aconsistent, like, personality
trait in him.
And speaking of comedians, bro,so did y'all peep Steve Harvey
on uh the Pivot Podcast?
Did y'all catch any clips ofthat?
Yeah, I caught it.
You can call some clips.

SPEAKER_01 (39:27):
Alright, so but I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 (39:29):
Because one of the big things that came out, right,
is Steve Harvey gave his comedyMount Rushmore.

SPEAKER_06 (39:36):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 (39:36):
Right.
And for those who don't know,when you give your Mount
Rushmore on a particular topic,you give the top four, right?
So the top four people, whetherit's singers, dancers,
musicians, whatever your subjectmatter is, right, that's what
you give.
Steve Harvey gave a littleextra, right?
So he let it be known that one,Richard Pryor got his own

(39:58):
statue, right?
He doesn't belong on aroundMount Rushmore with other
people.
He deserves his own, his ownpeace.
He said the same thing aboutEddie Murphy, right?
Which I agree with those, right?
I wouldn't put them necessarilyin a Mount Rushmore because they
they overshadow other comediansby so much.

SPEAKER_01 (40:16):
Yes, which places them on the Mount Rushmore.
That's what the Mount Rushmoreis for.

SPEAKER_04 (40:21):
I I get you.
But I like when you say, whenyou say Mount Rushmore, right, I
feel like those are people whoare of equal value to a degree.
Like even for the actual MountRushmore, these are people who
are considered the forefathersof America, right?
So they they put these thesefour faces up here.
But they're considered to havecontributed essentially the same

(40:44):
type of value.
So when I think of the comedyMount Rushmore, initially I
wouldn't have thought to givenobody their own fucking statue.
I feel like it's a littledramatic.
But at the same time, I kind ofagree with it.
Because when I think aboutputting four people next to each
other, if you name Richard Pryorand Eddie Murphy, where are you
going from there?

SPEAKER_01 (41:02):
Like who else you putting in that category?
I'm going next down the line whoI think is, who I think should
be on my Mount Rushmore.
That's how, that's how it shouldbe.
I'm not thinking about givinganother person a whole other
mountain.
They go on the Mount Rushmore.
Because you got to think aboutwhat you said is the
forefathers.
If you put the forefathers upthere, that means a lot of

(41:24):
niggas ain't going on this MountRushmore that you may look that
you may fuck with.

SPEAKER_04 (41:28):
Like Obama will never be on the motherfucking
Mount Rushmore.

SPEAKER_01 (41:31):
Just no, that's not true.
He would definitely be up there.
I'm saying on the real MountRushmore.

SPEAKER_00 (41:38):
Yeah, like you say, no, they definitely need to take
one of them motherfuckers downand put Obama on everyone.

SPEAKER_04 (41:44):
I mean, at this point, they didn't take all them
motherfuckers down, but at thispoint, I feel like all the
statues of motherfuckers beracist motherfuckers.
You really go pay attention.
It's like, damn.
Why?
Huh?

SPEAKER_02 (41:54):
Why he on there?
Who?
Obama.

SPEAKER_04 (41:57):
Well, as far as if I if I created a Mount Rushmore of
presidents for myself, likewe're doing for comedians, he
would definitely be on therejust for his influence and
representation alone.

SPEAKER_01 (42:07):
And and for me, he was the first black, black
president.
First black president.

SPEAKER_04 (42:11):
So that's that's synonymous.
That's an accommodation.
And then, bruh, he's one of theonly presidents to have actually
gone and practiced law.
Like the nigga has a legitimatelaw degree.
Not to mention he has been themost competent president in
being able to communicate andshow up.
He makes he makes publicappearances, he communicates and
gives statements on currentevents and advises people in a

(42:35):
political space.
I feel like he does what he'ssupposed to do as like a
president or former president.

SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
Like a quote-unquote president.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 (42:42):
Exactly.
He actually performs as apolitical entity rather than a
celebrity.

SPEAKER_02 (42:48):
Who?
Me?
I said that sounds like a greatpublic speaker.

SPEAKER_04 (42:51):
But that's what a president is.
I mean, essentially, yeah.
I mean, like, they're the mostpowerful person in America, but
they like they don't do nothingbut Mount Rush for the Mount
Rushmore right now.
Mm-hmm.
They actually did stuff, youfeel like?
You feel like they actuallychanged the landscape of
America, type of thing.
I get that.
That's fair.
Because if you I also think thatdepends on how deep you go into

(43:12):
history, because like for thingslike Abraham Lincoln freed the
slaves, technically that didn'thappen.
So like there's a but again, Iain't finna go.
That's a tangent, that's a wholeepisode in this up.
But I think that's also theproblem when we talk about stuff
like this, the Mount Rushmores,the shit we have in America, you
know, most of what we know is alie.
Like most of what we experienceis an illusion, my nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
As I pointed out in the last episode of My History
Learnings, yeah.
But go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
So what's your Mount Rushmore for comedians?
Do we let me re- let me rephraseit?
Are we going to say what's youror what's the?

SPEAKER_04 (43:52):
No.
Yeah, what's the I think weshould take our individual, and
we can say one at the end if wefeel like we want to argue that,
but I think we should give ourindividuals first.

SPEAKER_01 (44:00):
Monte, go ahead, bro.
Alright, so for me, because Ididn't really see Richard Pryor,
like all of that back in theday, I like I didn't I didn't
watch that.
Like I didn't, it's like a BruceLee movie.
I didn't watch Bruce Lee becauseit was black and white, and I
didn't like it.
So Eddie Murphy was like thefirst comedian that I ever saw.

(44:26):
And like I'm putting him on thatMount Rushmore.
He does not get his ownmountain, bro.
Like he he's one of theforefathers, because if it
wasn't for him, it wouldn't be aMartin to do like dress up like
B Big Mama, you know what I'msaying?
Right, right, right, right.
Stuff like that, or that was BigMama.
Martin was Big Mama, but but Iforgot uh the uh the clumps, you

(44:46):
know what I'm saying, stuff likethat.
But not to do little you know,like all that you know he was a
top actor, you know what I'msaying?
For me, Will Smith, because hehe's in that he's in that
category, you know.
And then it was four of though,right?

SPEAKER_02 (45:04):
Alright boy For me is Bernie Mac Right Okay and
then who would be happy HavenMurphy, Bernie Mac, Will Smith.

(45:24):
Yupas.

SPEAKER_04 (45:27):
Oh, hold on, wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait.
Of comedians?
Yes, that's what let him go.
Let him go.
So Will Smith wasn't a comedian.
You do your thing, brother.
I'm asking.
I don't know what he classifieshimself as.
I think he's uh I think heconsiders himself all those
things.

SPEAKER_01 (45:43):
So he never got on stage?

SPEAKER_04 (45:44):
I don't know.
I don't know if I've ever seenhim do a stand-up or let him go.
But yeah, you're right.
My bad.

SPEAKER_01 (45:50):
I was like, wait, huh?
If he's not a comedian, then hecan't go on Mount Red.
They're gonna be chiseling hisass off.

SPEAKER_04 (45:58):
I feel like he's a comedic actor.
I don't know if he's consideredlike a comedian.

SPEAKER_01 (46:02):
Oh, well, then I would replace him with Martin.
Okay.
So go to your list again, realquick.
You say you got Eddie Murphy.
It would be Eddie Murphy, thenit would be Bernie Mack, then
Martin, uh-huh, then damn, Ijust had him in my head too.
Jamie Foxx.
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (46:23):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (46:24):
I like that.
The most, once again, the mosttalented person in Hollywood,
bro.
Yeah, Jamie Foxx.
Dude be cooking.
Alright, for me though, I'mgonna go mine, me personally.
Dave Chappelle, Bernie Mack, CatWilliams.
And I'm gonna throw out thisname because also I wanna give

(46:45):
the women some little WandaSykes.
I like that.
I like that.
But Daddy Jamie Foxx was was ahonorable mission for me to
think, you know what I'm saying,think about for sure.

SPEAKER_04 (46:56):
That's so, that's so tough, because now y'all niggas
got me thinking about like inliving color and all the
motherfucking comedians.
Yeah, I because for mepersonally, I'm finna.
This mine, yeah, I'm finna saymine's mine's a little
different.
So I definitely think I got thefirst three that you know it's a
mix.
So Eddie Murphy for show, BernieMack for show, Dave Chappelle

(47:21):
for show.
And bro, my last one is like,that's hard, fam.
But I'm kinda just cause theshit that I grew up on, bruh,
and I feel like this nigga don'tget his recognition in a lot of
these conversations, my numberfour is Jim Carrey, bro.
I was gonna say that, but bruh,the mask almost ace ventucky.

(47:46):
Lar, liar, like, fam, bruh.
That nigga there is different.

SPEAKER_01 (47:52):
Honestly, honestly, what I was when I first thought
about it, Jim Carrey would benumber one for me.

SPEAKER_04 (47:59):
Bro, Jim Carrey is classic comedy, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (48:02):
Like, no lie.
But the the one reason I didn'tput Dave up there is because he
came after all of them.
And when you think about theMount Rushmore, I wouldn't put
Dave up there because he just,he wasn't, them was OGs, you
know what I mean?
You feel like they was more 90scomics.
I'm glad you said it.

SPEAKER_02 (48:22):
I'm glad you said that because I came up with
another list too.
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 (48:25):
But I definitely wanted to see, I don't, I don't
want to replace nobody, butTommy Davison was up there, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (48:31):
Bro, I used to bruh, people sleep on his like actual
stand-up, bro.
Like back in the day.

SPEAKER_00 (48:36):
Bro, I just went to one of his stand-ups, bro.
Like, dude still got it and hadme crying, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (48:42):
See, he had me crying.
And there's so many goodcomedians out there.
Carlos Miller, bro, hold on.
I mean, the whole 85 South isfunny, so.

SPEAKER_00 (48:52):
He was he was by himself.
He was on comic view.
He went out with like to seethis dude, bro.
He's like, You wouldn't go seeCarlos Miller by that?
Yes, bro.
Like he dude say, hey, man.
He say, hey, I know all y'alldone did this.
Y'all done, y'all done had sexwith y'all women and y'all was
sleeping booted the booter.

SPEAKER_03 (49:12):
Buddha the booter is hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 (49:17):
Have me crying.
Hey, because I was with my wifeand I'm just crying, bro.
I was like, yes, nigga, it'shappening.
Everybody the booty boot.

SPEAKER_04 (49:28):
Lil' Boot of the Buddha.

SPEAKER_00 (49:29):
Hey, hey, but nah, they're all good choices, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (49:33):
So for real.
But so for me, I'ma go back toUnique's original definition of
the Mount Rushmore.
So people who changed thelandscape of it.
So when I think Eddie Murphy,between Delirious and Raw, they
changed the landscape of comedy.
When I talk about Bernie Mackand his authentic, his raw
energy, he changed the landscapeof comedy.

(49:55):
Even with the TV shows, bro, hewas the first comedian to have
like a national like comedy,yeah, like uh syndicated TV
show.
And it's like, that's crazy tome.
Dave Chappelle, for me, theChappelle show alone, not even
talking about stuff like HalfBaked or his uh his because
people forget he was in anotherprofessor.

(50:17):
He was the comedian that wasroasting Buddy Love when he was,
you know what I'm saying?
Like people forget about that.
Like, but Dave Chappelle been,he's been he been doing this for
a minute.
For a while, bro.
And he he got some coldstand-ups, but the Chappelle
show alone, for me, I feel likehe changed the landscape of
sketch comedy with stuff likethat.
And then Jim Carrey, bro, JimCarrey, again, going back to Ace

(50:38):
Ventura, Pet Detective, Lar Lar,The Mask, bro, not to mention In
Living Color.
It he's had so many impactful.
And then he dude disappeared for80 years and then popped back up
as Sonic and still cold.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like still cold.
So it's just, I feel like Igotta get him pro.
Even though I love Cat Williams,even though I rock with Kevin

(51:00):
Hart, even though there's amillion niggas I used to watch
on Comic View, I, them thepeople I got.

SPEAKER_02 (51:04):
I'm glad you brought that name, because I wanted to
spin it back.
The son of Monte said he wastalking about like an OG.
Yeah.
I had created like an OG listand a new gen list.
And I and I said new gen, likewho, who from the new generation
of comics, or comedians, y'allthink should be on like a rush
or a Mount Rushmore?
I think number one, let me askthis question real quick,

(51:26):
because you said his name.
Would you put Kevin Hart inthat?
No.
He would be considered likeArgen?

SPEAKER_04 (51:34):
I see that's the I think that's the problem.
It depends on when you considerit.
Exactly.
Kevin Hart got popular in 2009,2010.
But he was but he was doingcomedy long before that.
Like he was, he was, Soul Plaincame out hellas before that,
bro.
Yeah.
Like he was in scary movieshellas before that.
He was in 40 year old Virginhella before that and was funny.

(51:57):
Like, and was hilarious, bro.
So it's like, I feel like itdepends on when we I feel like I
would put him in the same boatas I would uh Dave Shapir.
Him and Dave Shapir, as far astiming, as far as like outgoing
him doing comedy, but it's likethat I would consider them like,
but same thing with CatWilliams.
Cat Williams has been doingcomedy so long, but he's
technically a 2000s comic.

(52:17):
He's not like a 90s death jamcomic.
But and see, then shout out toSt.
Louis, because that's that'sthat's whole that's hometown
hero, you know what I'm saying?
But but that's what I'm talkingabout.
It's so many solid comediansthat don't get they just do,
bruh.
Like, and the people, like theearthquakes, like the like
Lavelle Crumf.

(52:38):
Like the Lavel.
I mean, and Lavelle Croft,another hometown hero, bro.
Like, dude is hilarious.
But I feel like, I don't know.
I feel if we did a new schoollist, I would go truly new
school.
I'm talking about the DC YoungFlies, the Drewski's, the uh
Desi Banks, the uh what's theDavis?
What's the Mr.
Commodore, the the like, yeah,it's Haha Davis.
It's all of these cats, likethem are new school to me.

(53:01):
Anybody that came up during theInstagram era would be like new
school.

SPEAKER_00 (53:04):
And what's that that dude now?
What's his name?
Jack Fly, some shit like that.
Uh Jack Funny?

SPEAKER_04 (53:08):
Bruh, hilarious, bro.
That dude is funny.

SPEAKER_00 (53:12):
Dude is fucking hilarious, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (53:14):
It's my light skinned dude, right?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (53:16):
Like, dude, be and uh uh what's the other dude's
name that I'll be watching?
Uh Skin Bone.

SPEAKER_04 (53:22):
Yeah, that nigga is her.
Bruh, so niggas forget.
Remember that song he came out,he was like, I'ma kill you.
Yeah.
Y'all know that was sexy redsong that he was doing.
Yeah.
That was her originally.
People sleep, they forget he wasmaking fun of her, and that's
kind of what got her like hersting going.

(53:42):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Hey.
But so nobody from the Vine era?

SPEAKER_01 (53:48):
I mean DC Young Fowers from the Vine.

SPEAKER_04 (53:50):
Yeah, DC Young Flowers from the Vine era.
Shout out to my nigga TimChantarongsu, aka Timothy De La
Ghetto.
That nigga, bruh, I've been, Iwas watching that nigga back in
2009 on YouTube and shit.
He was one of the OGs.
Him and like King Batch and him,they they kind of started that
YouTube comedy era back in theline.

SPEAKER_01 (54:08):
I probably have a problem typing in a dude's name.

SPEAKER_04 (54:10):
Timothy De La Ghetto?
Yeah, bro.
I or Tim Chantarongsu.
Yeah, that nigga.
I mean, that nigga, he likeFilipinos or Why you guys type
in Tim?
What you mean for what?

SPEAKER_00 (54:21):
To find this nigga.

SPEAKER_04 (54:22):
Bro, you know the nigga, though, Asian nigga that
he be on, he done been onwildin' out his shit.
If I show you the nigga's face,bro, you're gonna be like, oh,
I'm gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 (54:29):
I mean, it's only a couple Asian dudes that was on
that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04 (54:32):
That's what I'm saying.
But I think everybody knows hisface, right?
But like, as far as the I saywho started that shit, because
we gotta remember, bro, socialmedia, like we grew up with the
internet.
Niggas wasn't viral all thetime.
You had to be, you had to knowwhat was cracking.
Like on YouTube, it was niggashad like pockets where they had
fans and shit.

(54:53):
Everybody wasn't listening tothe same shit, except like
Soulja Boy.
Everybody had a like Soldier Boysong in their playlist, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (54:59):
Man.

SPEAKER_04 (54:59):
Everybody had the ring tone.
Shoot.
Let me get them shoot.
That nigga, hey, while we sleep,nigga, we was out there doing
them dances, the big ass tallT's and shit, nigga.
You was definitely out there inthe tall T.
You wanna do it?

SPEAKER_01 (55:12):
I was in the tall T, but this nigga laying with a
rock and go back to the bottom.
That's what I'm saying, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (55:17):
You ain't you ain't hit no snap, nigga.
You ain't hit nothing back then,nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (55:21):
Uh you ain't do nothing.
It was the uh the uh young bloodstump.
That's what I yeah, I would dothat.

SPEAKER_04 (55:28):
But even that, the eight, the eight-town stomp and
shit.
But that's what I'm saying.
We was all doing that shit.
It was anything that I feel likewhen we was coming up, bro.
We had a dance per song.
Like if your song came out andwas hot, it had a dance, bruh.

SPEAKER_00 (55:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (55:42):
Even if it was just a clap.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, nigga, you had something.
Like, hey, hold on now.

SPEAKER_01 (55:48):
You would never see me clapping.

SPEAKER_04 (55:51):
Hey, what was that one song, bruh?
Damn, that shit gonna fuck withme.
It's gonna fuck with me, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (55:55):
It don't matter what it was.
I wasn't clapping in the club.

SPEAKER_04 (55:58):
Nah, nigga, it was some shit.
It was a gangster ass song, too.
I forgot, but them niggas wasuh, nah, it was a dipset that
hey my hey my what's nope, let'sride.
But nah, they had a dance,nigga.
Them niggas was likesidestepping and like front
stepping and shit.
Them niggas in big ass throwbackjerseys and wristbands and
headbands, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (56:18):
You see, I don't even I don't even participate in
none of the the line dances,none of that.
I don't do that.

SPEAKER_04 (56:24):
Oh boy, right here.

SPEAKER_01 (56:25):
I don't either, but I got I got two steps, brother.
I two step all day.
I I would do that all day, bruh.
I was trying to two-step at yourbody.
Shout out real.

SPEAKER_02 (56:34):
I wasn't doing check my footwork.
And was doing it.

SPEAKER_01 (56:39):
I was trying to two-step at your wedding, but I
was too, I was lit.
I couldn't even I couldn't evenget right, man.

SPEAKER_02 (56:44):
I got it on camera.
We was doing we were doing thatpancake.
Stirring that pot.

SPEAKER_04 (56:51):
Bruh, but I feel like, I feel like that that
shit, that's when the culturewas popping.
Because if you trip off of it,bruh, we had eras.
The niggas from New York wasdoing New York shit.
Niggas from Atlanta was doingAtlanta shit.
Like everybody was doingsomething different, and you
would catch the vibe if yourocked with it.
Like nowadays, everybody justkind of melting in the same pot

(57:13):
together and shit, but Alright,so the last thing I want to talk
to you niggas about.
Wait, no, no, no.
We ain't finished.
That's the problem.
We be getting away from shit.
We gotta finish this MountRushmore conversation.

unknown (57:24):
Right?

SPEAKER_04 (57:24):
What you mean?
You said, hold on, he said,remember at the end, we said we
was gonna come up with the.
We talked about our individuals.
If we had to put one up for theculture, if we had to say, aye,
this has gotta cover everybody.
Who has to go on there?
Not your personal opinion, butif you got this, let's say like
90% of the the culture wouldhave to agree with you, who you

(57:46):
throwing on that Mount Rushmore?

SPEAKER_02 (57:48):
AD Murphy.

SPEAKER_04 (57:48):
Yeah.
AD Murphy number one, okay.
That's easy.

SPEAKER_02 (57:51):
Well, I mean, it's the difficulty is, is like, like
Monte said, I've watched RichardPrayer, but I wasn't, you know
what I'm saying, that enthusedby it.

SPEAKER_06 (58:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's a different type ofthing.

SPEAKER_02 (58:04):
But I understand, you know what I'm saying, his
contribution.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (58:09):
Because I feel like I feel like our parents watched
him, and that's the reason whywe were watching certain things,
like comedy-wise.
That's how we got on EddieMurphy, you know what I mean?
Because they saw that it was astand-up and they were like, oh,
this Eddie, this, this, thisRichard Pryor is so dope.
Can't wait till the next one.

(58:30):
Oh man, it's this Eddie Murphycharacter coming up, and I heard
this, you know what I'm saying?
So that's how they got on it.
So I f I kind of feel like heshould be up there, but that'll
be on somebody else's mind.

SPEAKER_04 (58:41):
I feel like I feel like it's that's it's hard to
do, kind of, because it's like asports conversation, right?
Because usually the people whostart some shit aren't the best.
Like, you think about people wholike a uh Dan Marino, right, in
football, he was cold, but heain't got shit on no Tom Brady.

SPEAKER_01 (58:57):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (58:57):
You know what I'm saying?
So once you start moving morecurrent, that's kind of the
problem.
People become more talented,more developed.
So in my eyes, I think EddieMurphy is the funniest comedian
across the board that I've evercome that I've ever been around.
So he's funny in movies andstand-up.
You know what I'm saying?
In regular conversation, niggain the interview, cracking your
ass up.

(59:18):
You know what I'm saying?
So, because from bruh, I niggasforget.
I want people to go back andre-watch life, bro.
That nigga Eddie carried thatmovie, the whole movie.
Don't give me, I liked Martin'spoint part in it, but he was a
more serious role.
He didn't really, he wasn'treally the comedic actor that he
normally is in other things,bro.

SPEAKER_01 (59:38):
But he stood alone in Beverly Hills Cop one through
three.
Stood alone in the movies, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (59:46):
But but he's but he's been able to transcend so
many levels, like Daddy Daycare,nigga.
Niggas was watching that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (59:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (59:52):
You know what I'm saying?
Like niggas was watching thatmovie.

SPEAKER_01 (59:55):
No matter what movie he comes out with, you're gonna
see it.

SPEAKER_04 (59:57):
You're gonna see it, bro.
Yeah, he's gonna be funny in it.

SPEAKER_02 (59:59):
We got Richard Pryce.
And Eddie Murphy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:01):
Nope.
No, I wouldn't put Richard upthere.
I would just say, I would juststick with Eddie.
I would put Eddie up therebecause I know the masses would
agree with that.
I would also put Martin up therebecause I feel like the masses
would agree with that.
Bernie is up there.
Yeah, I think Bernie.
Pick it.
I think Bernie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:20):
I'm telling you, Bernie's number two.
For real.
Like Bernie gotta be two, bro.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:25):
Yeah, I would agree.
Bernie's number two.
Okay, so we got Eddie.
We got Bernie.
Y'all don't think Martin shouldgo?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:31):
That's the fight with me.
I'm liking Dave Chappelle morethan Martin.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:34):
I percause Dave Chappelle was on my mind rush
more.
Martin wasn't.
I rock with Martin.
I think he's a hilarious comic.
But even when I go back andwatch some of his, like, when he
was hosting like Def Jam andstuff, some of it was kind of
like, eh.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:47):
But he was hosting, bro.
When you host, you ain'tsupposed to be the the You know
what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
So, but his stand-up momentstoo.
His stand-up, though.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:56):
Like Runtail, Daddy.
Yes, bro.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:58):
Like, it's up there.
Yeah.
That's why I'm saying, like, himand Jamie Foxx's stand-up.
And this is the thing.
When you think about comedians,like, they don't necessarily
have to transcend, transcend,like into movies and shit.
Yeah, like uh like like EddieMurphy.
They don't have to do that.
They stand up is if it's good byitself, like Jamie Foxx, bro.

(01:01:23):
Like, what?
And they did that.
Like that's like a plus.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:26):
Yeah, like Laughing Palooza or something.
Yeah, that shit was funny.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:29):
I agree with Unique because if you put Martin in,
that X is out one of the two.
Dave or Jamie.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:39):
And see, for me, I don't think I would put Jamie on
the Mount Rush for more for theculture.
I think that, I think he'sactually still under the radar,
which is crazy.
As long as Dude has been doingit, doing music and all these
other things, I think thatpeople still don't necessarily
acknowledge his level of thecity.
And it's gonna be unfortunatebecause he didn't get credit.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:59):
If this c if this kid would have passed away, you
know what I'm saying, Godforbid, when he was going
through that six.
He wouldn't have got his flowerslike he should, and he and he
needs to be getting them now.
He would have got themafterward.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:09):
I ain't gonna lie, because I watched that that uh
he called it a stand-up, but Iwatched that that production he
came back with, and I gotteary-eyed, bro, because when
you trip off of the kind ofperson Jamie Foxx has always
been, and then you kind of seehow he he like portrayed himself
on there, yeah, you can see thatthat situation really fucked
with him.
It really rocked him, bro.

(01:02:30):
Thought he really wasn't gonnabe here no more.
And there was a particular partwhere he was talking about how
he felt like his daughter savedhis life because she came into
that room, like started playingmusic, and he he literally
started coming back.
You know what I'm saying?
And shit like that.
It was like, damn.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:45):
Yeah, I mean, but that that's what a near-death
experience is supposed to do.
It's supposed to change yourmind about certain things so you
can so you can live it the theright way, quote unquote.
You know what I'm saying?
But I mean, uh that's that'sthat's see, uh, it's like people
gonna be like, he ain't got noemotion.

(01:03:05):
It ain't that.
I just I feel like certainthings happen for certain things
to happen.
So you know what I'm saying?
Like something in his life, likepeople in general, something in
your life has to happen, maybetraumatically or maybe just like
to open your eyes and make yousee.

(01:03:27):
You know what I'm saying?
Something that's gonna make yoube like, oh damn, like I gotta I
gotta do right.
You know what I'm saying?
So I mean, some people, youknow, because we don't know what
was in the in his closet, youknow what I'm saying?
We don't know what was going onwhat weight he was dealing with.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's it may be impactful foruh to us to see him like be
like, oh man, that really shookhim up, like you said.

(01:03:50):
But like like really what wasgoing on in your life.
You know what I'm saying?
Like this, these are things thatI I question.
Like, what was really going onin your life?
I think that that's necessary.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:00):
So, and to be honest, bro, I think that's
something we should give in agym.
But before before we give a gymand we get out of here today, I
want to finish this MountRushmore.
Okay.
So we got one last person, bro,because I don't I won't repeat
it no more times.
Uh the viewers just like, damn,hold on, wait.
Y'all only did three.
It's Eddie.
We said Eddie, Bernie Mac, wesaid Dave Shapir.

(01:04:22):
Right.
We got them three.
We need one more person that themasses would say, all right,
yeah, that's a that's a solid.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:28):
I know another name we could throw, I wouldn't just
throw out there where he saidwas Eddie Griffin.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:33):
I thought about him.
And I used to watch that niggastand up all the time.
All the time.
But he got one calleddysfunctional family.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:40):
It's like for me, I put Eddie Griffin and Martin
almost like comedic-wise.
Oh no.
Just comedic-wise.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:45):
I think I think that's the problem.
Because for me, if you think ifyou take in, especially that
period of time, because EddieGriffin has obviously drifted
far away from where he was.
But for that period of time,Eddie Griffin was impactful,
bro.
And he was in every fuckingthing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:59):
I disagree.
Why you say that?
I agree he was in everything,but he was not so impactful.
He didn't have the impact thatthe majority of the comics that
we named had.
No, no, no.
You're right, you're right.
I would put him, he liked it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:13):
I feel like we tiptoeing, and we ain't giving
this, just go ahead and throwthis nigga up there.
Why Steve Harvey?
Steve Harvey ain't getting nomission.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:19):
Man, what you mean?
He man, hey, we he's not even agood idea.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:22):
I would put GLC up there before Steve Harvey.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:25):
Why?

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:26):
He ain't salty about it, bro.
He just like it's like.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:28):
So Steve Harvey ain't that type of funny to me.
Not me either.
Have you watched some stand-upsthough?
Only King Comics.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:34):
Yes.
Yes, I've watched somestand-ups.
And if you if you ask me, if youask me, he was the weakest link
on it.
Out of all of them, DL.
Out of all of them.
Out of all of them, he was theweakest link, bro.
Like the end.
Yes.
And then when you and thinkabout this too.
When you when you throw his hisshow into the mix of shows, it

(01:05:59):
doesn't get mentioned.
The Steve Harvey show ain't.
Even him as a host, he's cool,but he ain't funny, nah.
That nigga, I mean, and that'swhy.
And on top of that, I didn'tlike the fact.
I I I'm gonna throw some shadein there because I didn't like
the fact that he danced aroundthe topic that he threw, you
know what I'm saying?
The topic here that we'retalking about, the Mount
Reshmore.

(01:06:19):
Bro, throw your people up, throwthe people up there, bruh.
Stop trying to make space forthe people that he played.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:25):
But he also, did y'all peep, he put Yeah, all
four of them.
He put the whole Kings of Comedyas one face.
He said, I want all four of theKings of Comedy as one face.
So me, Bernie DL, said it's oneface, and then he said he's
transformed.
Yeah, he's because that's whatthrew me off, though.
That's what I was like, allright, nah.
You're doing a lot now.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:43):
Said the entertainers from St.
Louis, and he's not up there forme.
And that's that's I wouldn't puthim before him.
Like, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:52):
But see, I think that's the problem with the
conversation.
I feel like Cedric theEntertainer is a great comedian.
Yeah, but he's just not on theMount Rush move.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but there's only oneperson, though, bro.
Like, who is this person that wecan't find that is why they fit
in there?

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:07):
Why is they gonna give Martin, give it to him?

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:09):
I feel like more, yes, I would.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:11):
You feel like it's Martin?
I think Ant wanna put JimCarrey, though.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:14):
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Jim Carrey was personal for mejust because of how I grew up.
All right.
And I was a goofy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:19):
But that's a that's a good, that's a good debate
though.
What you mean?
Jim Carrey and Martin.
And Martin.
I feel like I feel like Jim'sgonna win because Jim came from
In Living Color and made a hellof an impact.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:33):
But it depends on the age group.
Because I feel like a lot ofpeople, even in today's market,
they watch reruns of Martin.
They watch reruns of Martin.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:41):
How?
But they also watch all of JimCarrey's movies.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:44):
I agree.
I don't think they give him thecomedian respect.
I think they give him the actorrespect.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm not sure.
Okay, then we gotta go withMartin.
And I'm cool with that.
For the masses, I'm cool withthat.
Yeah, Jim Carrey was personalfor me, because again, that's
the type of comedy I am.

unknown (01:08:01):
Who?

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:02):
So he said, sorry.
Sorry, white people.
Sorry, white folks.
I mean, no, and shout out,coming, because it's some dope
white comedians out there.
Because even it's people LikeGeorge Lopez.
Nah, I mean, he said he'sfluffy.
But it is some dope whitecomedians out there.
Like Iglesius, Israel Iglesias,or Gabriel Iglesias, that's a
nigga named.

(01:08:22):
What do Trevor Noah do?
He's black though, right?
Trevor Noah is black, but I andI like him a lot too, but he
wouldn't be up there for me.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:28):
So let's recap our list real quick.
So you know what I'm saying?
You can spin out of here.
What we got?

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:32):
All right, yeah, yeah.
We gotta get up out of here.
But like, all right, so for themasses, we said Bernie Mack.
No, we said Eddie Murphy.
Eddie Murphy.
Bernie Mack.
Yep.
Dave Chappelle.
Yep.
Martin.
I feel like that's a solid list.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:43):
Debate us.
Hit us in the comments.
Whatever you want to do,comedic.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:46):
Definitely.
Let us know who we missing, man.
I'm not gonna do that.
All right.
That's the Mount Rushmore.
Y'all heard I heard Monte.

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:55):
It is what it is.
It's the biggest.
The largest.
Hey, y'all hear about oh, bro.
Shout out to uh Texas Native.
Big ass the plug.
But y'all hear y'all hearBeyonce just used his song to
walk out to at her concert.
She was like, uh he was he hadposted about he was like, man,
she hit me up.
And I was like, of course.
Like he said, I guess I'm partof the beehive.

(01:09:15):
I'm like, all right, but I rockwith that, bro, because he's
gonna get a crazy amount ofrecognition just from that
alone, just from her walking outto this song.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:23):
But I mean, shout out to Big X and them New Dallas
niggas.
Them niggas doing their thing,but like, shout out to them.

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:29):
Hey, bro, this Texas culture, we finally getting used
to it down here, man.
I ain't gonna lie, it's beensome it's been some cool stuff,
some good culture to tap in.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:36):
I ain't never gonna get you to this freaking
traffic.

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:39):
That's the one thing, yeah.
Hey, stop moving to Houston, bythe way.
Y'all niggas can visit, butstill stop moving down here, cuz
it's too many people, bro.
They keep building new housesand shit, and the H E Bs can't
take it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:51):
Nah, matter of fact, hey, keep coming down here,
especially y'all from St.
Louis, keep coming down here.
Because all I keep seeing isy'all coming and then saying
y'all don't like it and leaving.
Keep coming, please.
Please.
You know, take them with you.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10:03):
All right, y'all.
So we're about to get up out ofhere, but I want to make sure
that we leave y'all with a gym.
So no matter what we talk about,whether it's funny, whether it's
deep, wanna make sure we leavey'all with a little bit of
advice.
Make sure y'all have somethingto chew on for your week.
Now, for me, I'm gonna I'm gonnago back to the Cameron situation
and we're gonna talk a littlebit about business.

(01:10:24):
I feel like don't be scared tocheck a person.
And it's okay to do that in acalm way.
It's okay to come come to aperson and let them know how you
feel, enforce a boundary, andthen move on from the situation.
Everything ain't gotta berah-rah-rah.
I feel like we don't know how tostand on business without being
mad or without being like overlyupset.

(01:10:45):
It's okay to be able to have aconversation with somebody, say
this is what I feel, and thenmove on with your life and stand
on that.
Don't let nobody take you offyour pit.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:55):
Me, man, um, I don't know why, but like progression
and a momentum been in my mind.
It's like weak.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:04):
I like that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:04):
And for some reason I thought about whoever liked
comics, juggernaut.
Like in regards to momentum.
Because you take one step onefoot at a time, and then he
builds momentum up and then he'sunstoppable.
So momentum is built one actionat a time, stay with it.
You know, every choice you make,every small step forward, is
laying a simple breakdown forfoundations for your future.

(01:11:27):
You know, so just take it oneday at a time and don't quit.
You know, don't underestimateacquired power with showing up.
If you just show up every day,even though you feel like you
didn't progress the day before,if you keep going, you're gonna
see the progression.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:43):
What you got, Mante?
For me, we spoke about this alittle earlier about people just
not being themselves.
I just want people to focus onbeing authentic, you know, being
real with yourself first andforemost, because being real
with yourself is one of the mostpowerful choices you can make.
You know what I mean?
When you live honestly, owningyour strengths, admitting your

(01:12:04):
flaws, and staying true to yourvalues, you're giving yourself
freedom.
You feel me?
So, and the reason that mattersis simple, you know,
authenticity attracts the rightpeople and and opportunities,
you know what I'm saying?
So people, you want to be aroundthe right people.
You don't want to be around likebums, you know what I'm saying?
Like, if you're trying to, ifyou're trying to level up, you

(01:12:24):
know, shout out to uh uh sololeveling, if you're trying to
level up, you know what I'msaying, and and be better in
life, you know what I'm saying?
You want to be around thoseright people, you know what I
mean?
At the end of the day, you don'twant the wrong people bringing
you down, you know, especiallywhen you trying to elevate in
life, they telling you, like,hey, you you can't do this and
you can't do that, you know whatI'm saying?

(01:12:45):
You don't want them peoplearound you, you know.
So at the end of the day, justbe yourself, live with no
regrets, and you know, just keeppushing forward.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:57):
Respect, boundaries, and laughter.
Them the trophies that matterthe most.
This has been another episode ofthe Church of the Trophies
Podcast.
Y'all check us out next time.
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