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This is WSN.

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This is WSN.
Love it or leave it, the underdogs are tough, and you can either agree or disagree with her, but either way, the tribe is all here.
This is a tribe called Jess. You can call the show anytime at 855-77-WYLD. That's 855-779-9533.

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Welcome to a tribe called Jess. What's up everybody? Or should I say the verbal train wreck?
I think that's what I'm going to call myself from now on, the verbal train wreck.
We are here at Salisbury Studios fueled by Monster Energy.
Is there something in your drink?
I'm a verbal train wreck.

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Anyway, you can call the show anytime at 855-779-9533. That's 855-77-WYLD.
Definitely something in her drink.
What's going on, Frankie? I've got Frank the Tank. I have your favorite, Jason.

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That's the only reason we ask you back because you're popular.
Thank you. You're still single, ironically. That's crazy how that works.
Single and ready to mingle?
Let's go.
I have Johnny Hannaford. Hopefully, guys, we won't hear the Tom and No's commercial.
All of us have been working diligently to get that out of there. We don't know why. It's mysterious.

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Domino's just loves me. It's not in any other pot. It just comes on from mine.
I do love pizza.
I love Domino's.
As we were setting up for the powerlifting event here at Salisbury Center, that conversation got brought up.
Why does the Domino's keep happening?
It just keeps happening.
What the fuck?
We don't know why.
We're trying to find some sort of answer.
It's not anybody's fault. We're just sitting there talking all of a sudden at 30-second commercial.

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It's not going to happen to you. Jeff isn't here. He's probably ordering a pizza. That's why.
That was the joke. Jeff's cracking jokes on us and hits a button and it plays and he's at his house laughing like, ha ha ha.
They have no clue.
And Frankie, you're off to Miami on Friday.
Yes.
And I am so fucking jealous. God damn it. I should have went.
What's the occasion for?

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Spiritual retreat.
That's why we always go to Miami.
Where are you going? Are you going to go over to 1-800-LUCKY?
Probably.
Yes, please send me a video.
Go to the Sunday Fun Day Cocoa Jolls party.
I'm so jealous.
Solo retreat?
Yeah. I've seen some friends over there.
And one of my best friends.

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Oh yeah, say it.
It's her birthday. Happy birthday, Mimi. Love you.
We love you, Mimi. It won't be the same without me when Frankie sees you in Miami.
She's a good friend of ours. We all hook up and always go out.
So it's going to suck for you without having us there. I hope it does.
Where else are you? What pool party are you going to?
I haven't checked anything yet. There's so many of them.

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I know, right?
You know how I am last minute.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to get too excited. You know, I'm like tomorrow, tomorrow, Thursday, I'll start looking at what's on there.
Hit Darren up. He'll know what pool party is hot right now.
He was just a shout out to Darren for being on that podcast and how dating is in Miami.
And you better have a boat or house. You're in trouble.
That was awesome. I was dying. I was like, wait, that's Darren.

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It was funny because we had that conversation when we saw him in October at the pool.
He was giving us the inside scoop. It's tough down in Miami.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And dating for, well, what's her name said?
Well, she had an okay time. Megan Finke.
Oh yeah. I mean, she lived down there for a while.
She lived down there for a while. She just wasn't ready. But it's, it's right.

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I mean, I've just watched. Have you been to Miami, Miami like proper? Have you partied in Miami?
I haven't partied in Miami. So that means you haven't gone there.
We'll have to bring Jason with us. Couldn't feel the vibes.
We went down one time with the ex and I, she was doing a competition down there and I think it was a mangoes.
Oh, that's, that's South. That's like tourist stuff.
Yeah. That's, that's what we hit up. And that spot was fucking wild. I've done it. I've done it. It was cool.

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But I don't, I won't go to South beach and mangoes is very much a, like you.
I've actually gone there. Yeah, I've gone. I mean, it's not, it's pretty crazy.
He came out, he was dancing with us. He reminds me of the, the six flags guy.
You remember that commercial, the bald guy. That's, that was that gentleman.
Romance service was awesome. It was great. Jason just loves the brothers.

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Romance number two. I'm just kidding. I know I know you miss Julio. Right. He's sick. I know he's full of shit.
Julio, I hope you're listening. You're not sick.
I called him and was like, do you guys want anything from seven 11? And he was like, no, I'm good.
I'm like, okay, I'll see you guys in a little bit. He was like a lap dance. That was it.
It's like seven 11 is an offer lap dances, bro. But he also didn't say he wasn't going to be here.

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I didn't know he was sick till I got home. No, he texted me, but Julio, I hope you feel better and you better be here next week.
We miss you. Jason's very upset. But anyway, guys, if you're listening, please call in during the show and please subscribe
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We surely appreciated all the podcasts as well as everything we have on our network, which is growing, growing, growing by a thousand percent in three months.

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And a ton of downloads and our shorts are killing it, everybody. So shorts are where it's at. So check us out on there.
Shorts like those little booty shorts Jason is wearing. I don't like the long. Do you wear the long shorts?
No, I like short shorts, too. Yeah, that's hotter. It's way hotter. It's making fun of him because he's showing a lot of legs.

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Let's make fun of Jason. I like making fun of Jason. It's one of my favorite. I take it. It's OK. I love you guys.
I don't wear my boxers when I wear those shorts because then they'll come out. They're so short. I think I used to go command.
Yeah, that's right. See, it's not where I'm wearing them. Oh my God.
There's only two other people and I've lost control. Not even nine. We had like nine on my birthday and I've already lost control.

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Real quick, we are moving to Thursdays on May 2nd. So all the podcasts will be on Thursday consecutively.
We'll still be at our spot at 830. Yeah, we're still going to be 830 and the Salisbury Center will be opening Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
John, what time? Four to close. Yeah, four to close. Four to close. And on Thursdays, the pods will show downstairs as well as I think TV and we'll come down and be very interactive.

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Drinks and food, right? Drinks and food. Yep. Drinks and food. Yeah. Yeah. Podcasts. What more could you want? I mean, duh.
So come out and see us. I'm excited to interact with the audience. Yeah, that makes me excited. Thursday, May 2nd.
And it's a great place to start drinking and eating because it's right by Old Town Manassas. So start here. Listen to some podcasts. Hang out for a little bit. Go to Old Town. Hit up Zandra's, CJ Finn's, Sports Pub, all the other spots.

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Look at Jason, just our little advertiser on here. I love it. I love it. So is he telling us that's where he's taking us? Is that where I took it at? No, I'm going to be home. Once we're done, I'm out. I'm lame, remember? I don't do anything.
Loser. Every time he texts her, calls, I'm like, hey, loser. Did she say that to you or anybody else or is it just me? I'm not a loser. It's every fucking time.

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Frank, every single time it's voice chat, whatever. Hey, loser. So I was wondering if hey, loser. If I say Jason, what does that mean? I don't like you or if I've called you loser and I've designated you that, then you're fucked. For the dog park. Hey, loser. I'm going to go to the dog park if you want to bring Lahana.

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Oh, that was that date y'all went on, right? Yeah, I'm the loser. I could only imagine how many people saw us hanging out. We went to totally bang. I was one of them. They got social media say you guys were dating. I started that.
That's what the YouTube comments have mentioned a few times. They did. What? Yeah, she's the third hottest chick I've hooked up with. Oh, you're here. Let's just say, Hey, I love the rumor mill. You should be so fucking lucky.

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I'm getting myself out of this one. So last week. Oh, so we did that. And then May 3, we have Will Grayley coming from Arlington for night at the Salisbury and Dan Gray, who's a good friend of ours as support. And I know he's out there pimping it out.
So all those people that go to echo and all that are going to come because Dan is going to spin and I'm proud of him. He's sponsored parties in Miami. He's spun again when he went for Miami Music Week, I believe.

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So I'm excited to see him what he puts together. So 90s, 90s theme, right? So it's late 90s all the way through. But going back to those old shark club days for the bank. What was it? Five was a five column.
All those platinum. Jason wasn't born yet.

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I'm an 80s baby.
Yeah, but you're late 80s baby. 89. Yeah, this was late 90s, early 2000s. You weren't getting in any clubs. Probably watching Pokemon.
So then, so everybody please come out to that. Go to get wild. That's W Y L D E get wild.com and you can get tickets there for Will Grayley or hit me up and I can send you a link in QR code and you can get them that way too.

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So, all right. Get into fun shit. Enough about that. Not that that's not fun, but orgasms sound a lot better to me. One more thing. What? A shout out to our biggest fan in Germany. Oh, not yet. Not yet. Not yet. I'm a move from orgasms to that.
I don't know how. I know how I'm going to do it. All right. So last week you asked, do you have to have an orgasm to say it was a good session?

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When you had a session. He's the word session. So Jason, I'll let you answer first since you weren't here and then I got to tell you what one of our friends messaged me.
And what is the question? Frankie asked it since you asked. I know. So we were, I was asking, is it necessary to have an orgasm to say you had a good session?
No. And prime example last night. Prime example. Oh God. You're just, it's going south. Do you care to elaborate? If you would like, yeah, let's, let's set a timer. So I don't talk. No, I'll definitely keep it PG 13. We already know guys.

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We are fun, which is proof that we're not dating because I would have fucked up. Shocked you left so early. Thank you so much for last night, Jessica. I appreciate it. He's here to wrap up.
I couldn't get her off. She got me off like seven times. It was wild. No, it's so last night. I will say was one of those like, you don't have to because it left me wanting more. And I remember having blue balls back in like high school and things like that. And you're like, oh my God. But last night was pretty solid.

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Like it was a little bit of oral back and forth turned into a little bit more oral back and forth, but it was just a whole lot of teasing. And this is a second time. Please clip this. This is the second time that we hung out and it was fun. Like there wasn't, there was great communication through and through. So I didn't want to make her uncomfortable. She, you know, I didn't want to push her brown boundaries.

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There's boundaries. Yeah. I mean, if you're having oral apparently the boundary was that the boundary was not coming. Okay. So they were soaking. No, it was shaking. No, no, no P and V. That's what it was. There was no P and no marinate.
Was there marinating? Marinating, soaking, shaking the bed. No, but it was, it was one of those things where like she didn't feel comfortable to have sex yet. So we just kept like the oral back and forth. And there was a spot where I was about to, but I was like, you know what? I like, I enjoyed not having the orgasm because it made me think about her the entire night. It made me think about her all day today. Like it was, it was positive.

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He's like the next time she's getting pregnant, breeding kink. I show him my show was I also, I also did masturbate when she left because I was that horny. So then you meet. So, okay. But then that contradicts your answer. Yep. In the moment with the experience with that female. Yeah. But the question was, you know, have an orgasm.

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And apparently yes, because you had to finish by yourself, you know, by yourself, but not in the moment. I get what you're saying. So then I would say no, I guess you're yes. I'm saying the wrong things. Yeah. So you would prefer like what I said. So what I said last week was I would prefer. Right. I went back and watched the re I posted the real estate. Did you listen to him in three separate clips? Oh my God. The best was Julio. Cause he sounds just like me. And it shows when you hang out with people, you start to say the shit.

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You start to say the shit they say. He's like, that sounds fucking terrible or terrible. And I'm like, what's the point? I co-sign that brother. I co-sign that. And then I go, I mean, it's okay. I mean, I've had good sex, I guess. But I think like, yeah. I mean, hold on. What notes did I make? I mean, it's enjoyable. Don't take me wrong. And there's things that can elevate that. But I mean, all in all, like, yeah, I'm a little butthurt. Like I'm like,

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it's so much more fun. And obviously that's why it's called the climax. Right. Cause it's the ultimate peak. Right. I mean, you can fuck for hours and hold off. Like, and then I don't know. I don't know. I'm just, I'm butthurt. Like I was, I thought about it. My answer. Apparently having blue balls is better. I enjoyed it. That's on him. And it took, I mean, we still hung out for probably two hours before she left and then made sure she got home safe. So two and a half hours later I was. So you make sure she cuddled you. Oh, he definitely did. You needed some conversation.

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And then she left him and I. What sign is that, Jess? Jessica, what sign is that where they need affection to be cuddled? The cancers. Is that what that's what you want? They do too. They're all water signs. They're both fucking emo. So our friend, this is what I love. So I get, I'm allowed to say his name and you've known him for years and years. And he messages me cause I put, do you, and you can fill in the answer.

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On the Instagram, right? He goes, I said, I'm not going to say your name. He goes, you can say Eric Rez said so.
Of course he goes, Avi coming feels good and everyone should like to during sex, but I can come easily and often lol. So if I had a choice, I'd rather her come to me than give me the sat, then give me the satisfaction. Only time I normally can is if I'm too high or drunk or not to throw my back out.

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He goes, and then I can just continue in the morning. Like so Eric Rez. Oh my God. I was dying. And then a few people message me just privately. They're like, yeah, I want more. Most than not. Or like kind of like my answer.
Yeah. I mean, but he got a good, he made a good point though. I'm fine as long as she orgasms. I think that's a male thing too. Like I think for men, it is most men I've been with, it gives them that pleasure to have the woman come. But I mean, just Eric fucking high or drunk. I was like, that's fucking great.

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So many good times with Rez. I know, right? So what else did we want to go into? Real quick. I just want to check my notes. Okay. So I don't know how I'm going to segue from orgasms to shout outs, but what better way to segue than wishing our baby boy Scotty on Friday, a happy, happy birthday.

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Scott Rogers. We love him. I miss his energy. And what else did I write about him? He's just such an awesome kid. And to watch him sit with us until recent and just evolve over time and his curiosity and willingness to learn. But also he got stronger and contributing back. I like when he gets a little bit that Aries fire comes out.

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Yeah. Happy birthday, Scott. We're going to see you buddy.
I saw him on Friday. I stopped by here on my way to the, to the first Friday.
I haven't seen him in a while. He was up here briefly today. Yeah. Yeah. He's got two giant moon boots on each foot and it's, it's pretty hard. Yeah. Waddles around, but he's back to walking. That is my spirit animal. Yeah. Love that.

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So do you want to say something just that I love you, buddy. I miss you. It's good to see you from time to time. It's not every day like it used to be, but a happy birthday. My guy. Yeah. So I mean, that's cool. He'll be, I think 26, right? Yeah. He'll be 26. One of the smartest human beings I've ever met. He's a sweetheart. Genius. I just adore him as a kid. You're like, cause to me he's like just a kid. It's no offense. It's just, and he's so pure. He's like a Labrador. Like he has a Labrador. He has a little Labrador.

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But he has like that Yorkie at him because he's an Aries and I can see when it comes out. Cause I can. So I know, I know that feeling like, so it's Friday at 12, April 12th. Yeah. Yeah. April. Is it? Yeah. Oh my God. How did we get to April? I feel like we're just fucking years. All right. So before I do that, I have to shout out my little nephew, Jackson over in Germany. He said, aunt Jessica, please say my name on the show. And I consider myself to be his favorite human being, which I am. He treats me like a little kid.

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He treats me like I'm bad ass, which I am. He is the coolest kid. He's so like me. They had like an electronic party at his school and like all the kids are kind of dancing. Not him. He's in the middle throwing it up and I'm like, same jeans, same jeans. And he walks in my room when he came and saw me. Cause I didn't get to meet him until recent. And he'll be nine on Cinco de Dranco. Happy birthday, buddy. He was born a fun haver. So we'll wish him a happy birthday then.

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And then he goes, I'm going to go to my bedroom. Cause you know, my bedroom's elaborate. He goes, are you a queen? Well, yes, I am queen. The queen. Yeah. Well, I wish. Yes. And pulls out the crown. Anyway, I love you. And to my brother, I love you too. He's coming back in July. So I told him if Jackson's coming, we'll do one thing. And if Jackson's not, we're going to go in the vips. He's coming for America's birthday. Huh? Yeah. What's that?

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Hey Scotty. What up? Were you, were you tuning in live to hear all the amazing things I said about you and happy birthday? Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. Oh, are you excited for your birthday? As excited as I can be. Do you have any big plans? You want to gamble? I know. I leaked that to Jeff. I told you I'll go. I mean, I wasn't going to go out on a Friday, but I'll go. Is Frankie with you? Yeah. Frankie's going to Miami.

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Though, but Holyoke, he wanted you, me and Holyo to go to the casino. And I said, I'll drive. I'll drive whoever you want. I'll do. Yeah. Heck yeah. Holyo go. Yeah. He's down. But I was going to be here. When are you coming back on the show? Scotty?
Actually, Jason, I were talking to that. We'll see. I'll make a guest appearance one day. Absolutely. I told him, get set on my lap. We can share. Sit on your lap. Do you want to say happy birthday to your friend?

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Who? Me? Yeah. You. Oh yeah. Scott. Hey, I heard it was your birthday on Friday. So happy birthday. My guy. Did you, are you listening to this shit? Jason's viewing out here already.
Oh my God. Well, we miss you and I love you to death and we will have a good show and tune in because I'm sure more shit will come out of Jason's mouth. Yeah. Have fun, buddy. I'll see you guys later.

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All right. Love you. Love you. Bye. Anyway, I love him so much. It's been a while though. I've seen him. It's been a while since. It's been like three months. Well, he did the TCB with John, those two. And then him and John were working for the concert on Friday that we had here. And I got to see him really quick. No, I haven't seen him. I know. It's been a really, so he immediately said, I said, what do you do for your birthday? And he was like, Frankie and Holyo, we'll go to his casino. And I was like, he loves you guys so much.

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Yeah, I haven't been in, I haven't been to the casino since last time I was at MGM was when we went, did you go to that pool party? Nope. With the table and the crazy girl that tried to hook up with all my friends. Oh fuck. I would have been the one friend. I would have been like fine. So she could stop harassing everybody else. Not even you would have wanted this one. No, no, not even you would have wanted. This is one of those like boil the bunny down the road. Yeah.

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Hey, real quick while we're on Scott's topic, I do want to say positive energy that human has kept such positive vibes for the last three months. You want to say what happened? I didn't say. So long story short, he fell off a roof, broke both of his heels, had boots from his knees to his heels or feet all the way down, shattered, destroyed, wasn't able to walk for three months and still is, has not changed his attitude since it happened till now.

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Like he's still happy, positive, beautiful, wonderful.
Scott, you want to get married? Jason's proposing. I'm just kidding.
Julio isn't here. Oh my God.
Holy, it'd be so jealous. Yeah, it's I'm glad he's recovering.
And and also Johnny Canterford, so appreciative to you stepping in.

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And, you know, we couldn't have a show if you hadn't stepped in and you've been amazing.
We love you so much.
Yeah, dude, Scott, Scott by himself's a thousand miles an hour.
But even with the knee pads that kids.
It's just he's fast as hell on his knees.
But I mean, it's a lot of holes.
I mean, he's so good on his knees.

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He will run circles around most most people.
I mean, it's phenomenal how much that kid hasn't missed the beat.
He's amazing. His spirits are he's my spirit.
So you would say he does better work on his knees.
Right. With those pads on. Me too, Frankie.
Me too. He could service a lot of people.

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Oh, God, I had a story. OK.
I'm going to. I had a story or half a story.
I can't tell that story. OK.
So the other thing.
Yeah. The other thing.
Remember, Julio said won't do that. Yeah.
So what would you do for love?
But he said ladies, what would meatloaf?
I would do anything for love, but I won't do that.

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And people text me because I did the same thing.
And the four funny. Well, one was not funny.
Catch a charge was one.
Oh, you do share fries, which I thought was cute.
Stop working out, which I totally get that would never date
someone who told me to not work out.
And then one was sacrifice myself or my happiness.

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Yeah. Which I wouldn't either.
So everybody's fucked is basically is what that's saying.
I love french fries, though, I would be upset.
We'll just order two orders.
Like, I'm cool with that.
But that's not sharing.
I know the point of the fries with your boyfriend
is to take his fries.
Like, I like the fact that I'm taking his fries.
Yeah, that's what makes it cute.

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I get that. But.
Give me working out and give me my dreams.
Eat whatever the fuck you want off my plate.
Excellent.
Or.
She's old enough to see she old enough.
If she's old enough.
I love one of the cutest things about the X is with

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can't see it, but the energy drinks, I would set it down,
come back five minutes later, pick it up.
And there's like this much. Yeah.
Did you get mad? No.
See, I think that's cute that you don't get mad.
I think it's like, girl, we'll get into more of this
when we get on our serious subject.
But like, yeah, I think that's sweet.
I would play the wouldn't be mad either, though.
You're like that, dude.

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When do we have daughters? Yeah.
My daughter, like sometimes I don't even eat anything.
I'm like, wait, what can I say?
That's where I taste my stuff first.
She I would pick it up and I'd look at her and I'd be like.
What happened? You pick her up or you pick up
that drink, pick up the drink and be like, maybe both.
Who knows? You never know what Jason.

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I thought it was cute. That is very cute.
That's sweet.
All right. So Frankie and I are talking the other day.
The fuck do I get roped into these conversations?
And he goes, if your girl is into masochism,
where the fuck do you come up with this shit?
If your girl's in into masochism and she slaps, slaps it, dude,

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and makes them cry, is that a turn off?
I don't even know how to answer it.
I was thinking that, Rose, I thought we were just talking.
I said, what would happen if the girls into it
and she hits the dude too hard and then he's like, is it?
Starts crying.
I'm like, is that a turn off?
I don't even know how to answer this question.

(25:55):
I mean, can you imagine him hitting for me?
So for anybody out there who doesn't know masochism,
I've got it. OK.
You can read it.
The tendency to deliver pleasure, especially sexual gratification
from one's own pain or humiliation.
Yeah, I mean, it's something that people are into like part of the BDSM.
Yeah, it's bonded. Yeah, all that.

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And I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
So my ex, I won't say which one, not the most recent
we used to go and Jeff will remember this place.
And there was only four in the country to dream dresser downtown in D.C.
and Georgetown.
And they had some shit and they had a lot of shit.
And I spent a lot of money in that store.

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Sorry, real quick. Dream dresser, like a kink store or something.
So it was everything from but high.
It was like going into the Neiman Marcus of BDSM and just know everything.
Outfitted, you name it.
They had it. But all high end. Right.
And I had to get a latex suit for one of Jeff's party

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that I was going to.
I'm like, what do I wear?
Wait, what would make it a high end?
Wait, what party? That's what I want to know.
Yeah, that was it.
Well, what makes that a high end store, though?
The quality of the stuff is quality and yes, like the girth.
Yeah, there were real veins going on.
Yeah, there were.
So that's when that original like dildo came out that felt like a real dick

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and it had the veins and everything.
No shit. It didn't feel like rubber.
It felt like smooth.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
And yeah, you know what?
Now that you mentioned that, I've never asked that.
But since you brought it up
when it comes since you raised it.
It's just since you brought it up.
No, you know, as long as I already told you, I don't put that shit like I'm

(27:43):
we talked about this on a show.
No, my question is, is there such a thing?
But is there such thing as like, you know, when it comes to that
masturbation and using like dildos and all that stuff, is there actually like
a real quality dildo where you could say this feels I know is that going to be real?
I can't feel real, though.
Like how close does it feel to being real?
I mean, nowadays,

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they feel pretty fucking real, not the same, though.
And I think part of that is trickery of the mind, because it's not real.
And so for me, I'm like, well, this ain't the real thing.
I know they got those.
Well, now they're doing all the machines.
No, but that that ass thing with the vagina and it's just like the piece
is definitely turning out for guys.

(28:27):
Yeah, for guys. Yeah.
They have that. And I saw a video the other day.
Oh, they even have the one that looks like like like a tool.
I will never look at you two again.
I mean, to me, I don't on the tube that you're talking about.
I saw one that had two handles and it had the shaft.
And that's where you insert yourself there.
And it had a little area to put your phone and you.

(28:48):
It was like, of course, I looked into it was like two hundred and fifty, three hundred
dollars. But on one side, you really research on one side, it had the like stroke speed.
And on the other side, it was like a little spin dial.
So stroke speed on this side and the other side was the distance.
So if you go all the way down, it goes all the way down or you could like go up
and it just strokes the head. Yeah.

(29:10):
So like you could adjust it almost like you're playing a video game.
Also, this is especially for gamers then.
That's yeah. That's what it sounds like.
Insane. And I don't play games.
I don't play games either. I'm all for it.
I was just buying a latex.
No, because I mean, I'm not a gamer.
I mean, I just I don't I wouldn't go through all that trouble.

(29:31):
Like why? Like either I just my ex was like a novelty of bringing them home for me
weekly. And the more expensive, the better.
And the more shit he can bring.
It's not a bad thing. I didn't mind.
I'm like, come a long way from socks.
So we're in there. I'll never forget.
So I'm getting this latex suit to go to House of Secrets.
Do you remember that, John, when the parties were downtown at House of Secrets?
That was before me. Yeah.

(29:53):
So it's a crazy. That was a wild, wild party.
This was like joystick.
Yeah, it was it was fun.
It was a lot of fun. Jeff will tell you why it doesn't happen anymore.
I won't tell that story. It was wild.
It was wild. Anyway. Before my time, too, John.
Fuck. You guys haven't lived.
You haven't lived. You'll never live now.

(30:14):
No. And so I was getting a full latex bodysuit, which I didn't end up wearing.
I forget what I ended up wearing. And I got roofied at this party for real.
Only time I've ever got. I think you told me this.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And I knew I got roofied because I had like two drinks and gone and throwing out.
It was bad. But anyway, it was super fun.
It was still fun. So while we're in the store, I'm like looking around and he was like,

(30:36):
buy whatever you want, like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And there's these sandals with the with the nails coming up.
And I asked the dude that worked there, I'm like, do people buy this shit?
He's like, yeah, you know, so you stand on them and they poke into your feet.
And I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, like nails, like actual?
Like, yes. OK. So like nails into wood. Yeah.

(30:57):
No, they were sandals and the nail had.
You know what I'm saying? He's like, what kind of nails?
He thought like fingernails are totally. No, like nails.
OK. Yeah. And I'm like, what makes you get off like that?
That is pain. Like that is super, super pain.
You have so many nerve endings on your bottom of your feet, your soles, right?
So yeah, it's like I guess it's really.

(31:19):
I mean, pain, if you think about it, it is pleasurable.
I like control. I like control.
It's out. It depends on who it is. If I let them control me.
I like control, though. So I don't know if I if I answered your question,
I slapped someone in the face. They cried.
If I was just like, what the fuck?
I don't know, bitch. I'm not the act of crying.
I would just be like, you ruined it.

(31:41):
So smacking, biting and then like a crop or a whip.
Like, I'm cool with that. But to a certain extent, like,
once it really starts to sting, that's when I'm like, oh, OK.
That's when you're like, huh?
But I mean, smacking is hot. Like I've I've had a face.
There was one time where it was open up your mouth.

(32:02):
So I opened my mouth, she spit in my mouth and then smacked me in the face.
And I was I would be very upset if someone spit in my mouth.
Well, it was I mean, it was an intimate. I don't see what it was like to stand
over top and like spit it down slowly into your mouth.
And then she said, swallow it. So I closed my mouth.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Time out.

(32:24):
Jeff's on the phone to tell you guys about House of Secrets. Hi, Jeffy.
Jeff, can I please come to your parties?
Jeff. All right. So you remember this one when I went and I walked up.
Am I how much can I say about it, Jeff? I'm not sure what I can say.
I guess whatever you want. When I walked upstairs and it looked like a little

(32:46):
like Leave It to Beaver living room and there was the two curtains on either side.
And I was like, oh, what's in here? And I walked in and I've never seen that many people
fucking in my life. And my face was like, what the fuck's happening?
What party is this? I was so young.
John and I just made eye contact. We want to come to this party.

(33:07):
Like we just we just locked it. We're not going to say what just happened.
But yes, please, Jeff, please.
Jessica was a. Jeff always says that girl is still inside me, but I just tame her.
All right. Go ahead, Jeff.
Unfortunately, those parties at that place are no longer happening.

(33:28):
Those people that used to host them move to an island in the Caribbean or off the coast
of Mexico or something like that. Did you tell us?
Sounds so much better. What was that island that everybody?
Why? But it's no longer because House of Secret. Frankie, hold on.
House of Secret was used for a lot of different parties, isn't it? No longer.

(33:50):
Yeah, that's like Prince used to do private shows all the time.
That's what I call it. The Prince House. Yeah.
Oh, really? The Prince? Yeah. Yeah.
It was kind of a famous underground house.
It was a lot of ADM converted into a private party. Yeah.
And that was it dawn now. It was wild.

(34:11):
Yeah, there's still lots of lifestyle clubs.
There's a lot of lifestyle parties.
The only one that I'm familiar with is the crucible in D.C.
It's like a kink dungeon kind of place. Does that still exist? Yeah. OK.
Yeah. I mean, Taboo in Maryland is probably the.
I remember. Yeah. Yeah.

(34:32):
You got to be a member to it.
And there was the female has to be the member like you can't.
You can't be a male and be the member.
So there's like four different girls that have memberships with me that I had to take
because they would give me the membership.
So I would take different girls different times and they would get the wet streets for her.

(34:53):
Yeah, I got we got invited my girlfriend and I we got invited.
Yeah. To the the one in London that's super, super famous when we were out in London last year.
I'll have to remember the name, but it's it's world famous.
And we we passed on it.
I mean, not right trip, right? Yeah.

(35:16):
There is a wild party.
You got to know how to find them and. Oh, yeah.
Where they are, there's several in Pennsylvania.
Yeah. I mean, Pennsylvania got wild shit going on.
Yeah. Yeah.
Most of those are like private places, though.
Well, you're talking about an on premise club where kind of things happen.
It was it was such a good time.

(35:38):
We had a good time. That was a fun time.
Yeah. Wow. Yep. Good times.
You see, I just clam up, Jeff. Yeah.
Yeah. We had so much fun.
I was telling the mother's milk story the other day.
Oh, God. How you called me.

(36:00):
You would call me for the after parties and the filming of the porn.
And I based what I go on what the name of the porn was because I was so naive.
And you were like, I was like, what's this one's name?
You're like mother's milk. And I'm like, hard pass.
I was like, fuck no, dude.
And I'm like, did she really like ejaculate her breast milk?
And he's like, yes.

(36:23):
Oh, yeah. You can still see a lot of those things online and see damn dance and all kinds of stuff.
What? Where is he at? What country?
Somebody had heard of him the other day and I couldn't remember what Budapest.
That's it. OK. All right. Yeah, we had fun.
Maybe we'll talk more about that on the show as I get more and more comfortable and just give less and less bucks.

(36:45):
Poor Nico. Oh, yeah. Good times.
Oh, we had good times. All right, babe. Well, I love you.
Thank you for clarifying House of Secrets for us.
And I'll call you tomorrow. Absolutely. Sounds good.
Later, Jeff. Have fun. All right. Easy, buddy.
We will. I love them so much. Oh, yeah.
I forgot to tell you, Karen and I got invited to that party last year.

(37:08):
We were at a club. It's a club in London.
And it's actually our friend from Colombia that was like, hey, you guys, I mean, you don't just get to go.
But I guess we were acceptable.
Quality material. Yeah. One of those. You know how it goes.
And so it was just not that's not the vibe I have to be in to go to one of those clubs.

(37:31):
And I love lifestyle people. I mean, they're the most non-judgment, coolest people.
And I have a ton of friends that are lifestyle.
I just. Yeah. OK, we're going to move on from that.
And Julio, did you hear what Julio brought? The praise kink.
But he went zoom in. So I'm going to save it for next year for next week about how people who who praise that gets them off to praise.

(37:55):
And generally, they're people pleasers. And then some people like to be praised.
I'm like, that just sounds like getting a compliment. Have you heard of this?
OK, well, you elaborate then if you know so much about it.
I mean, I don't know too much about it. I've heard about it. OK.
Everybody wants to be called everybody.
But if you're doing something well, you know, good girl, good boy kind of things kind of hot.

(38:18):
Well, they said to like people pleasers, they'll just like keep praising and praising.
But it gets them off to do that because it's like a praise kink.
And it goes in the reverse as well. I'm just like I've and this was a trend that's going around right now.
And I'm like that probably I'm like, wait, why?
I'm like the two for three or three for three rule.
So for every two things that I do, I like to have three things back.

(38:40):
I'm not just going to give and give and give and give or I'll do the three.
Should I get you flowers? Wait.
So you give twice, you expect three. Wait, what?
I'm confused. You want to go slow to an extent.
Yes, because I don't want to be the one who gives and gives and gives and gives and gives.
No, no. But you said I'm confused.
So it could be two, two to three. So it could be I give you two.

(39:02):
You give me three or I give you three. You give me two.
So it's like back and forth with that. Give us an example.
Give us an example. This is interesting.
Yeah. Two nice things for three nice things.
So you expect more than but at the same time, I'll do three nice things for you to do two nice things.

(39:24):
Are you talking sexual things or are we talking?
It could be a sexual thing, but it could also be dinner.
It could be a movie. It could be a date.
But are you saying this alludes to like a kink, a sex or you're saying in general that's how you are?
In general, but at the same time, when it comes down to the sexual stuff, I tend to go off the bat a little bit.
You have two blowjobs.
I was confused. I thought you were saying that one of your kinks was like, you want to be praised like twice and then you're praising three times.

(39:53):
Yeah. So he sucks me off twice and then I suck him off three times.
I mean, I don't know. I just looked at all.
Tune in kids tonight. This was a naughty, naughty, naughty. It's going to end even naughtier. God.
It's more of a. It's going to get deep.
I don't even know how to say I'm fucked right now. I'm fucked.
But I mean, I can see that the way the praising thing.

(40:15):
Real quick. Can I say something else? All right. So let me ask my.
Well, no, just so I can finalize that.
So wait, you said I don't like to give and give and give.
Because why? Because I don't want to get taken advantage of.
But that that you and I have conversation.

(40:36):
That's a that's something you have to get over.
But it's not necessarily I don't want to get taken advantage of.
Like, I don't want to go down and you for 20 minutes or if we're talking about sexual stuff, like it needs to go back and forth.
Sex needs to be reciprocated. OK, that's the two sexes.
Sex is different. I'm talking like in real life.
I mean, even in real life or sexually, like I'm going to guide you through this.

(41:00):
No, please, please, please. So in real life, if somebody take you take somebody dinner and then you do something else for them.
And then let's say they didn't like take you to dinner or something.
You take that personal to an extent. To an extent.
It's not if they're being like attentive.
I think this goes back to what I say about ego.

(41:22):
You and I have had ego talks and like I get if somebody is just not reciprocating at all.
Right. Like if they're not blah, blah, blah.
But if they're giving you like their time and they're giving you, you know, care and nurture and all that, if they're not giving you those three things in order.
Well, so if I fail, take an advantage of.

(41:44):
So if I say, let's go to dinner and I plan a dinner date and you give me your time, you give me your energy.
It's awesome. We have a great time. And then we have another date.
And that's me saying, let's go to the movies or let's go hiking.
And you give me your time and your energy. And then I give you another date like, hey, let's do this.
What I'm asking is for you to give me a little bit like if we went to dinner and we went hiking, you need that for.

(42:09):
And this is OK. You need that for validation to know that somebody cares back.
Yes, because when you plan, when I go into planning it, because I'm going to give you my time, too.
So if I plan dinner and I plan hiking, I would like for you to plan a date,
because that means that you're putting a little bit of energy into making me happy and we can grow.
I think to Jason's emotional person, I'm a train wreck when it comes to it.

(42:32):
You are, too. I mean, I am too. People don't believe it.
You know, my close friends now cry like a little bitch.
I just don't show it. So I get that validation because if if you're yeah,
you want to validate that somebody likes you back and that's you, that's a love language when they do that.
Yeah, I think of nice. See, I just got you out of that.

(42:54):
But I'm just wondering what like what makes it like you're taking advantage of.
If you're the one who's always planning the dates, I feel like it gets draining.
So if I'm the one who's like, hey, let's go on this date, let's do this and then let's do that.
And then let's do this over and over. It gets draining when a woman comes to me and they're like, hey, I'm going to take you out.

(43:16):
That makes me feel good. I'm going to bring in John real quick. Hi, John. How are you?
I'm good. I'm good. How's everybody? We're doing fine. We're just sitting here.
We're about to get deep in a second. Yeah, Jason, you have one hell of a night.
This is one of your goat night. Goat night. Thank you, John.

(43:38):
What's going on over there? You're archived this.
I see you in the gym. I see you working. I see everything. Hey, keep going. Frank.
Yo, yo, yo. What up, John?
I'm praying for you, man, to have a safe trip down to Miami, man.
Stay aware. Stay good.

(43:59):
And everybody, you know, this is great to show you all got going on and I'm a supporter, as you know.
I do. And I love you for it. Thank you for posting us in your stories.
Ain't no problem. Don't forget to wish me to have fun.
That was me. Huh? John, don't forget to tell me to have fun.
He'll be fine. Trust me. He's in good hands.

(44:21):
Hey, hey, hey, fun is a part of it, you know, but you know, you know, these days, you know, you just got to be aware, you know what I'm saying?
Be aware of your surroundings. You got to. You got to. Amen. Amen.
Well, I love you, John. I got to get through this deep crap. Thank you, honey. We appreciate you.
Always a pleasure, John. Thank you, brother.

(44:44):
Hey, peace. Peace.
Love him. He's so nice. He posted in the stories and then he was like, I did that funny reel when I said, you look like you can't.
The tick tock I did. You can't talk to somebody.
And I'm like, but yet here you are. I look unapproachable. Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, here you are. It's funny. And he goes, dude, those apps are fucking pop.

(45:05):
And I'm like, I work really, really hard every fucking day.
Anyway, last week we got into it, Jason. You'll have to follow along.
But I started this conversation and it all started with I got to do a panel on on this Kava Club.
And you actually listened into this and it truly changed my perspective on how I think about showing up for what I want out of life.

(45:29):
And I'll get to that. And we started with this quote true or we kind of ended with it.
True love is not found. It is created through conscious effort. Right. Yeah.
And and I think people have the wrong idea a lot of times about what love is. Right.
It's I feel like bad like Jason's not included in this.
You're good. I'm not up there.

(45:51):
So and I think, you know, watching different reels, it's like home, it's sacrifice.
It's it is a choice every day.
The value will always be the commitment.
And I think you're not going to love somebody all the time.
You're going to fucking hate them. And that's when you're the value of commitment comes in.
Because I think love is a verb. Commitment is the value that supports it.

(46:14):
Because you're going to have to show up and say, I might not love this person today, but I'm going to stay with them.
And every healthy long term couple you talk to, they will tell you that.
I mean, that is probably and real quick.
And I wanted to touch on this why we were here at this point. Right.
And I think the first time we were here was first Friday going out there.

(46:36):
Thank you, Jason, for coming out. We did the live from Zandra's.
Thank you to Miguel and all the staff there. They were awesome for letting us do that.
We'll do it again. Hopefully it won't be so cold.
And I on the mic for a little bit. You guys were on the mic and then we interviewed.
I think you had left at that point, but the couples and you saw me, I don't cry.
I do not cry like in public. I'm an ugly cryer.
And that made me tear up to listen to those two couples, the ones you talked to upstairs after.

(47:01):
And the honesty and they were not my age for sure.
I'm guessing 30s, early 30s, late 20s.
Oh, no, I think there were no there are somewhere between our age.
Oh, really? One of them, not the other one. No way.
Anyway, here nor there doesn't matter to watch how these men spoke of these women and the raw honesty of how both couples are like, it wasn't easy.

(47:25):
And I was like, it started out rocky and to watch her like almost like melt into my arms because of what he said.
And he wasn't like, I love her so much, like all that bullshit.
He was just like, dude, it was hard. And she is my not that hard.
And she is my best friend. And she's just we're we vibe and we're cool.
And she's my homie. And like she like literally I'm tearing up and I'm like, you're making me believe in love.

(47:49):
Well, you know, it's funny. So it was there. Thus, the younger couple, they were the girl was the the daughter of the other couple that we interviewed.
Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.
And then even the single guy, that good looking single guy, I pulled aside.
I went back and actually watched that on the live. And, you know, I loved it.

(48:11):
People are just so honest. I'm like, where are these people like in real life?
Because, you know, he's like, look, I don't mind being single, but I'm I'm ready, like kind of basically for a relationship for the right woman.
And I the way he was able to articulate that on Mike right on the spot.
I mean, this man's thought about this. And he was pretty I mean, I think everybody's young.

(48:32):
I think I also still think I'm young. So it was pretty moving and touching.
And I think, you know, that's what love looks like to me. That that was real raw honesty.
Didn't you know? I agree. I mean, I I always think that love always has to start with yourself. Right.
Well, yeah. So when you when you have to give it when you know what you want, what you need, what you're leading me right in.

(48:59):
Thank you. So I have a question for you guys.
John, I want you to jump in here, especially since Julio ditched. And don't give me bullshit like honesty.
And I'm not asking what you want. What do you need out of a woman need?
What do you feel you need support like truly through the thick and thin?

(49:20):
But what does that look like? What and for you to. Yeah.
So, I mean, I as a business owner, too, well, support in the sense that like, you know,
you're you have the responsibility to like provide for the family.
That's who we are as men. Right.
And there's going to be times that I might not make the right decision or the best decision for the for the family.

(49:42):
And I need a woman not to bash me. Not be like, oh, you have to stop, you know, like this and that.
Like you should have done this instead of that.
Be like, you know, wasn't the right choice. But you know what?
Let's fix that. We're a team. Let's get it right.
So I'm on the other side of that where I want the support for her to make sure and push me.
So when I say, hey, I'm thinking about doing this, what do you think?

(50:03):
I've got your back. I'm going to be here no matter what. I think you can do it.
I know that you can do it. That's part of the support.
And then I was on the other side of the result. If you mess up, doesn't mean they bash you.
You should have done. We should have listened to me. Stupid.
Whatever. And I've been called. Yeah, no, that doesn't work.
That doesn't matter. I mean, yeah, look forward. Never look back. Look forward.
And I'm going to bring this full circle after we're done this discussion.

(50:27):
So don't say anything else, John. What do you need?
Like, I mean, you're obviously married. And what do you need? Like not.
I think both guys have hit it on the head. It's you know, when life is good, it's easy to make a relationship.
But when when stuff's not good and you're in some dark spots like it's having someone that is like, OK, look, we're going through some shit.

(50:48):
But we're going to we're going to pick you up and we're going to figure this out together.
You're not in this alone. And we're going to or, you know, we'll get through this.
What qualities does your and I love your wife. What qualities does she have that exude that?
Patience. Yeah. Willing to dream together to try to, you know, that's not going to shut you down when you throw an idea out there that crazy.

(51:14):
I want that 100 percent. Say that one more time. So it's a good clip.
It couples that dream together. I mean, you just come up with your future and you try to, you know, paint this picture.
And, you know, no matter what the crazy idea is, whether you want to open a gym or whether you want to start your own AV company, it's like, you know, hey, OK, well, I'm not going to shut that down.
Let's feed this and let's see. Let's let's nurture this and see where this what this grows into our landscaping, our landscaping.

(51:38):
Absolutely. No matter what it is. Yeah. Yeah. No matter what it is.
I don't want to get too far off because I have a way to bring this back in in the end because this all ties in with how those guys changed my life.
But I think the problem there that I see a lot is that people don't support dreams, right?
They become very logical. Now, obviously, there's a point you fiscally.

(52:00):
I mean, with a reason, right? A dream within dreams are never within reason.
That's why dreamers that try to make their dreams come true can think. What's the word?
Not radically. I'm losing my words. Irrationally. Yeah.
There's a word for it where they talk about dreamers, where they just think on this level.
You're a dreamer, Frankie. Yeah. But I just so that one of the issues that I have is that and you and I have had this discussion before.

(52:28):
Look, I'm not the kind of guy that if you come to me, you tell me your dream or your idea, I'm not going to be like instantly be like, yeah, you know, but that's your that's your response mechanism.
That's not being unsupportive. Correct. There's a difference.
You're a very supportive person of your daughters, of your friends.
I mean, look at what you did. You jumped on my podcast.
But when we were having that conversation on your birthday, that dinner, you you you got a little bit upset because I was also fucked up.

(52:55):
Yeah, but I'm saying no, but it's it's still you still got upset that I didn't like instantly say I got your back.
I was busy just processing it, you know, but you know, I always got your you know, you know, I always got your back, though.
No, Frank. OK, Frankie.
There also has to be some leniency. I want to go forward on this subject because we're already well, sorry.

(53:17):
Are you OK, John? I mean, you have to have you have to know your partner, right?
Yeah. You know, the response mechanism is just because somebody is saying something doesn't mean they're not being supportive.
That's how they respond.
And that's why I go back to when I had this conversation today with somebody that even you'll buy a house and you'll have kids or you're not going to have kids if you're smart.

(53:38):
No, I'm kidding, Nico. I love you.
You know, you'll do all those things. But the number one thing you'll ever do is the partner you pick, like you actually pick and are committed to.
And yet it's the least thing we get to know. And we were not intentional about it with which brings this full circle as well.
So I think it's women and men have to be fair to each other.
I react my the way I treat my friends, if I'm not being sarcastic, I'm uncomfortable with you or I don't like you.

(54:05):
Yeah, that's why we were talking about when I call you loser. Like the day I stop, I'm like, just fucking.
So can I ask you this? All three of us said support. What do you see in a male?
I'm not I'm not going to say that yet, but I will. OK.
So I think I was watching a pod that most men need.

(54:27):
I think most men need to be nurtured. And I think women's way, a woman's way is to nurture by nature.
Hold on. I'm going to get into it. I think it's ready. No, no, I'm just thinking.
And so the second question I have for you guys and then we'll get into the three men because they all kind of goes with you are on that.

(54:50):
You listened in. Yeah. They yelled out your name and I was like, that's that's my cohost on my podcast from the Wild Style Network.
It was cute. Do you think because we exist and because we're human that we deserve just because we're here, we deserve love?
We deserve it from I'm asking. Yeah, I have a hard time with that question.

(55:12):
Like I'll I'll say yes at one point and then, you know, reason with it and then I'll be like, no.
And reason with that. I mean, just as humans, when you're born, you're you don't do anything, but you receive the love from your parents.
So it's not earned right. So is it deserved?

(55:33):
I mean, I didn't receive a lot of love from my dad, so I'll take it this way is we could replace that with love, with happiness.
Do you deserve happiness? You got to work for it. You deserve love. You got to work for it.
I think I think you deserve it, but you have. OK, is my answer.
I think you deserve it just you're on the whole thing. You know, I'm saying I think you deserve it because you exist.

(55:56):
But then I think you have to work for it to keep it. OK.
I mean, so so what the panel I was on to modern men and women, and you can say relationship deserve to be married.
Should they even be married in this day and age? And it changed my whole thought process.
And it was because these three extremely masculine men who I've now kept in touch with all married.

(56:21):
And when I say masculine, you see these representations on Instagram.
You were on it. They're awesome guys. Shout out Will Palo, right?
Palo and Damien. And they were all they're just just awesome.
And when I when I say masculine, the way they articulate masculinity versus what you see on Facebook and Instagram and Tick Tock and Twitter, it was so different.

(56:44):
Yeah. And it was so different.
I'm just like holding on to every word going, OK, I'm not asking for too much because I always feel now with my standards of what I want, I'm asking for too much.
Right. And I'm like, wait, I'm not. When they got through, I'm like, oh, my God, I think I said it on there. I'm not asking for too much.
Absolutely not correct. So I think.

(57:09):
They said the big things of how they show up and such articulate words that it was even above me, I was like, wow.
But the biggest thing is it is your job as a man to keep a woman safe, to protect and to provide.
And you should make her feel like that at all times and in all ways it make her feel loved.
Men, men, their DNA, basically the way they were made.

(57:33):
That is their job versus women. We're talking DNA makeup, whatever you want to call it, are more made to nurture.
That doesn't mean we carry don't carry qualities of each other.
And what happens is when men aren't showing up like that for women and women aren't showing up like that for men, men show more feminine sides.
Women show more masculine sides. And that's where you have this clusterfuck we have now in the world. Right.

(57:57):
I agree. A hundred. Fair statement. Yes. What choices do as a man.
OK, wait. So what I took that as when they kept summarizing, basically what they said is how am I being intentional every day with my woman and Palo.
Shout out to Palo. And it's not perbatum because I didn't want it was a three hour panel.

(58:22):
And I was like, one thing Palo said and of course nothing's absolutions. Right.
There's always room for you know, but he was convicted and he's like, we are a team.
There is no win or lose. I am committed and I show up to my woman and we will get through it.
There's no we're splitting up. There's no he wasn't saying like an asshole.
He's like, I love her and I make that choice every day.

(58:46):
And I was just like, damn, like, I mean, mind blown. You could see my face. You probably saw me. I'm like.
And so that's where I kind of summarize that love is a choice. Commitment is the value. Right.
Commitment is about you. You might not always love, but to be that team player every day, you have to be committed, like for real.

(59:09):
And I don't think men and women are for real committed. There's FOMO. There's the next best fucking bitch.
There's the next dude who has more money, who has this. Nobody's committed.
This is why to me in the dating being married and taking that vow says a lot because it's your.
Yeah, exactly. You're you're that's like you're you're committing.

(59:31):
Not with the divorce rate that we have, but that's because people stop putting some committing like when it looked.
I took all that stuff in and now that you're saying what you're saying, it just brings, you know, takes me back to when I was married and stuff.
And then when my marriage ended, it that's all it was.
It was we stopped being a team, you know, she had she wanted different things.

(59:56):
She thought I wasn't going to, you know, be understanding or be supportive.
So she made up her mind for both of us and with like the marriage thing that you were touching on with my ex.
And I wish her the best seven and a half years, some of the best years of my entire life.
I she wanted to get married. I didn't.

(01:00:17):
I don't know what I was waiting for and even looking back on it and spending nights thinking about it.
I don't know why I waited. I guarantee you that if we would have tied the knot three or four years ago when we first talked about it, she would have been more committed.
I guarantee you that she would have been, I don't want to say more loyal, but she would have given me more of herself for a longer period of time where I think after three, four or five years of us being together but not being married.

(01:00:42):
She was just like, all right, cool.
What do you know why the courts or the government expects you not why they want you to be separated for a year or a year and you don't have a divorce.
If you have kids. No, I think in general, six months emerging at it's six months.
But still, they still give you a really if you don't six months, a long time. Six months. Yeah, so you can take about your shit.
And you should it's a big day. Look, getting married is a big decision. So is getting divorced.

(01:01:06):
Right. The family is so important to keep it together. Right. Family is a foundation of society.
That's why society is struggling so much because families are are falling apart and agreeing with Jess with the divorce rates through the roof.
I was with my ex for seven years. You saw me with my ex and no matter what, I'm a ride or die.

(01:01:27):
Like I'm if I'm committed, I'm committed. I ain't going to fuck around on you. I got your back.
We won't say how much I had is back. And look, I thought I was married to my ex ex.
So like I find the value in marriage. Look, I'm not pressed to get married.
But if it is important to someone else, I'm not objective to getting married because I find the value in it, too.

(01:01:51):
Look, it one life. It's short. It's a blank.
I mean, if you make each other happy, then then be happy together because you're not getting time back.
Time is like this. And the older you get, the more time.
And it has nothing to do with like, you know, if I want to settle, I could be married tomorrow.
But I won't do that. I'd rather be alone with my dog.

(01:02:13):
I think there's a little bit more to come to actually getting married.
I agree. So I want to go back. It's about a commitment.
So I want to go back to what I just said.
Do you think and then I'll John, can I have 10?
OK, is that like a good yes or a bad yes? OK, that's a he's like, I hate you.

(01:02:35):
I don't know what's going on. If we get dinner afterwards.
So I want to go back then and hearing that and the way these men are and what you said.
Do you think that you're showing up and did the work to be the man that deserves the woman that is going to be that ride or die?
What is in your mind? Have you done that work?

(01:02:58):
Do you deserve that woman? Because at the end of the day, how they expressed is you do not deserve love.
You deserve what you work for and what intention you put in.
But you don't just deserve anything. And if and what answer the question then often.
So my previous relationship. No, I didn't deserve it.

(01:03:22):
I did not. I wish her the best. She's fucking awesome. I have nothing bad to say about her.
I wasn't mentally mature enough to get through my own problems and also with I don't want to say her problems,
but the person that she was, just any any partner in a relationship, I wasn't mature enough to get through my problems and her problems.

(01:03:43):
Knowing now what I learned from that and what I lost from that gained me a little bit more maturity to do deep soul searching in myself to find what I am, who I am, what I stand for.
So when that person comes next, absolutely. And my past relationship.
No, now I'm not saying I'm a superhero, but I definitely understand more.

(01:04:06):
My ears are. Thank you. I mean, are you dating with intention? Are you dating with a purpose?
Yeah, you got blue balls. I stated with that purpose. That's what I mean.
That's the indicators you're ready. So I would. Yeah, I'm not necessarily like even dating right now.
Like I'm having fun and I'm being like open with it.

(01:04:27):
And I'm not telling anybody that they want to hear like, hey, I think you're beautiful. I think you're this. I think you're that.
I think we're going to get along so I can get in your pants. No, it's one of those things where I'm just looking to have some fun if you want to.
I'm going to respect you. I'll walk you to your car. I'll take you out.
But I'm not like dating. Like I'm not trying to like really get to know you. If you want to fuck. Great.
It's honest. I want to. I'm not right here in this place and this area, per se.

(01:04:53):
I'm not at a place where I want to date. I want to move like we've talked about, possibly Florida, possibly Arizona, possibly Texas.
Like I want to get completely away from here before I want to date.
And I'm going to tell you something, though. It's not about I know it is not about where the place you're at.
It's just about you personally being ready. So because I look I give advice, but I also apply it to myself. Right.

(01:05:17):
So one of the reasons why I'm still single is because I'm enjoying being single and I know what it takes to be in a relationship.
And I don't want to I don't want to give that.
I'm saying and I don't want to and I don't want to expect that from somebody else either because I expect a lot because I give a lot.

(01:05:38):
You know, so as I work as I'm working on myself, I can't.
But I also have to be you have to be ready because you can't say, oh, I met somebody.
So now I want to work myself more. It's like you always got to be ready.
So when you meet that person, you're ready. So I might get some hate for this.
But with the line of work that I'm in and what I do, I know a lot of the people that I'm attracted to.

(01:06:04):
And there's nobody in this area that I'm attracted to. Oh, yeah, that's fine.
So the world is strong as drunk with traveling and and and that's why I want to completely remove myself from here and go somewhere where I don't know anybody and build that community there and then find my woman there.
Because it took me to build a community here to find her.

(01:06:27):
And in the seven and a half, eight years that we have that community built and we still do, it's a beautiful community.
I haven't found anybody that comes even close to that woman. And with that being said, I don't think there's anybody here.
And I truly mean, why would you get hate for that? I don't think that is.
I don't know. I think I think Jason, as you grow and learn, I think you'll learn that everything you say will probably happen in reverse.

(01:06:56):
Like, it's not it's not that you won't move away and find it. It's just that's not what it is about. But that's only with growth.
I've done that rodeo. I mean, you build you build the community here and the end where you go is never going to matter.
It's going to be the same. So I got to bring this round, Robin, real quick.
So what they said after that is what changed. They said, are you but we will hold women accountable, which I respected.

(01:07:20):
I liked that. And they said, are you being the woman? Because every woman on there was like, I'm so tired of being a man in all articulate ways.
They weren't like whiny. It was a very adult discussion. I respected everybody on there.
And they said, are you doing the things to be the woman you want to be or what? Hold on.
Are you doing the work and showing up as the woman who will attract the type of man you want?

(01:07:45):
And so last week I read on the show and I was kind of like, no, I'm not.
And it really challenged me because it made me really reflect, like really reflect.
Like I was like, because you're being asked by men who I think I just respected immediately.

(01:08:07):
And they I was just stunned because I was like, no.
And I think the things I thought about was what they played a real sorry.
I have to think this out in my head. They played a reel of this check.
And she's like, I can't find a good man. I'm such a fun chick. I always hang out. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Remember that? Yeah. And one of the things I took away from that is that I bro way too much like I just bro way too much.

(01:08:34):
But I and I was trying to understand why I do it the last two weeks, three weeks.
I don't know how long ago. It's been about three weeks.
And I'm like, oh, it's just because of the way I am.
This is how I'm trying to convince myself that I don't bro way too much because it's one of the things I said on the podcast.
I bet all of you guys bro way too much. And I'm like, I totally do. I totally do it.
And then I'm like, well, it's just cool. Like, be cool with dudes.

(01:08:56):
And like that's how and then what I had to do in the last two weeks and self-reflect is be like, I do it because it keeps me in a very comfortable place.
Like out of the way of fear and I don't have to connect. And if I bro, I can remain friends and I can not get rejected and not have my feelings hurt and not do all those things.
And that was a hard pill to swallow because I'm always like, yeah, I'll be fine.

(01:09:18):
And I will be fine. That's never a fucking question. But that's exactly why I do it.
And I'm like, well, you suck. So I'm trying to work on that.
I do it. I do it with all men that like me. And I just bro because I'm just like, but it's not that you suck, though.
It's so let me. Well, it kind of does for me. Right.
So the other things I came up with our last episode was, you know, I'm not being intentional with seeking a partner because you and I had a long conversation like a week ago or right after the podcast.

(01:09:52):
And you're like, you're ready for a relationship. And I was like, I am.
And you're like, I can tell because I'm knowing you that long and you know me in and out of relationships.
And I am very much as much as I am a bro. I'm very much a nurturing. I cook like I do so many things that I'm not able to do right now because who the fuck am I going to do it for?
Yeah, not me. I cook because I love. Yeah. And Nico's gone, too.

(01:10:15):
So it's a tough one. I cook for you guys when you guys come over because I'm like, oh, people to cook for.
And so I'm not being intentional. And the other thing is, is just and going back to Jason's point about the chick last night.
No offense. That's her business. But so I've always viewed sex as I love sex. Right.
But but each time I do that, and it's not like how I mean, like emotional connection, but knowing I'm not going to be with them or their intent isn't the same as mine.

(01:10:46):
I won't. I didn't until two weeks ago acknowledge that that takes a piece away from me into my intention of what I'm looking for.
So now I refuse to fucking do it. Yeah. Now I'm fucking done.
So when you say that, is that like relationship sex or like just hook up sex?
I say hook up. I don't want to say hook up because I think when you say that word out on a podcast in 10 years, people can be like, oh, no, not like that.

(01:11:10):
But I mean, just sexual relations period.
You know, they're great men. And I want to say that because, you know, they are great men.
But it just it does take a piece of me. And I refuse to do that. I'm too important to myself.
I know exactly what I want and I fucking deserve it because I've done the work.
And now I'll show up for myself because I want it. You know what I mean?

(01:11:34):
I'm but I'm not going to settle either. But yeah, because I mean, there's things that we do that we're good at naturally.
Right. For example, I know I'm I'm I like to work. Right. You know, I'm responsible.
I have my business. I take care of my daughters and I'm doing it for me. Right.
I'm doing it for me. I know I could be a provider.
When you start dating for attention, you can be like, you know what? I'm ready to just work for myself and my daughter.

(01:11:58):
I'm ready to work for a partner. For John, give me a minute.
We'll wrap it up. I'm almost the last thing. Now you're being intentional. Right.
You're thinking differently. I'm also respect to myself. What they said is true.
I'm not saying never. That's not I'm not going to go that far. Right.
No, no. Yeah. But I've got to do the things for me that attracts that type of man.

(01:12:20):
And that's I do want somebody who, like I said on the group chat, I said, better not tell me what to do.
But he also better tell me what to do. And and that's what I want.
And I can't be dude to dude with dudes. If I'm one more time to act like a dude, like because I am.

(01:12:41):
I'm such a guy sometimes. But when it's people I like, it's worse.
And because then I'm like, oh, I can just. Yeah, it's a little defensive mechanism.
Well, it's a self sabotaging, not on purpose. I want to say that is more like a like keeping that a distance
because it's your little, you know, little exit sign, your little escape, you know, escape route. Yeah.

(01:13:02):
I guess I want to sabotage because you know what you're doing sabotages.
You like when you mess it up, that's not messing it up. That's purposely leave your purpose leaving.
So you're messing it up. It's a protection mechanism.
But I didn't know I was doing it as that until I self reflected your favorite word.
And everybody individually has certain things.
I have certain behaviors that I know I will stop doing.

(01:13:26):
And, you know, because I'm ready to be in a relationship.
And actually, I'm still going to go party in Miami. No, no, no.
But I'm saying right now I'm actually there's things that I do.
Did a lot that I'm like limiting myself. And it's not because you know what?
I want to find a girlfriend. It's more like it's I want to level up.

(01:13:47):
Like this is not the behavior I want to do just as a person.
And I think women and I'm going to address this next week and let's move out of this so we can get John out of here.
Women look at chaotic men versus I was watching What's Her Name, our favorite therapist.
Shit. The one you guys put narcissistic that we all triggered me.
She had a thing and she's like women are looking at whether a man is chaotic or not, even though that doesn't mean they're not great men.

(01:14:12):
But I thought about that and there's guys like I'm attracted to, but they're fucking chaotic.
And I I'm like, yeah, I can't.
You know, I can't because you're not aligned with with where I'm at in my head, where I want to go, where I'm going, how I feel like my energy.
Right. Yeah. That's a maturity thing. Well, no, people choose to live.

(01:14:35):
I disagree and chaotic without getting I want to get John out of here, but it's something we will address.
And if you want to come back, I want to hold that episode.
I want to talk about that. It's a great.
That would be a good. I almost thought that we would have been here three hours like that.
So any final thoughts on that?
And then we'll get into some sex trends on TikTok because you know, I love that even though I'm not going to do it.

(01:14:58):
Well, on chaotic behavior, we all have a little bit of that.
Right. That's I don't mean what like I'm chaotic. Sometimes chaotic.
It's constant. It doesn't make I'm not saying they're wild partying.
They're just no, no, making really irrational.
No, they're not making great choices that are going to serve them to move ahead.
You know, I'll give it. I'll give a personal. I'll give a personal example.

(01:15:23):
Right. I'm single. I could do whatever I want. Right.
I like going to strip clubs. Yep. Right.
There's nothing wrong with going to strip clubs, right. Having some fun.
But I take it to another level where I get really careless with my money.
And then I to the point where I'm like, dude, I could be doing so much better stuff, you know, with my money.
Jessica has always given me advice.
She you know, she doesn't like tell me all the time.

(01:15:45):
She already told me a few times. She was like, I love you. Do what you want.
You know, but I know you could level up. You could do so much better. Right.
That's all she says. You know, I've been working now and I've been thinking, meditate.
I'm like, man, I work so hard. I want to travel more.
There's other things I want to do like I'm just going to throw my money away.
And, you know, like and we got to.

(01:16:07):
So that behavior for me personally, you sure that's for me, personally, that's chaotic behavior because I could have X amount of income and then just also just.
And women. So and I'll tell you from a woman's mature one.
OK, not all women. Look, I love going to strip clubs.
If you haven't thrown up out the window in Miami, we would have had a great time at that one.
But you chose to throw up.

(01:16:29):
I love them, too. Right.
The chaos becomes when it is that level of where it goes.
And it's not constant, but consistent. Right. Correct.
And there's not a woman. I don't care of my dudes like I'm going to strip club.
No dude is I've ever been with has ever wanted to like I view.
But if they did, I'm like, I'll go with you or go.

(01:16:51):
If that's what the fuck ever.
But if you are chaotic like that, no, no good woman wants to do like that.
And I don't need a woman. I don't want to do that acts like that.
See, and I don't need a woman to tell me that I know that already.
It doesn't mean that I will still be friends with them.
No, no, no. But it's different because it's a friendship.
You know, my woman, right? I'm not your man. It's different.
So I don't like if I self reflect, I don't need a woman to tell me that stuff.

(01:17:14):
I already know that a lot of her find her.
It's not going to be something that's going to be hard for you to quit.
You're gladly going to stop. Yeah.
I mean, to be honest with you, I'm going to stop before I find her.
That's what I'm saying. And that's not the irrational.
You're not irrational about that. You're not.
That's why I was saying I have to show up now, now, right now for the man I want.
Like I am like that's how I have to show up.

(01:17:37):
You have to start working now because you're going to attract who you are.
That's exactly right.
So if I'm chaotic, I'm going to attract chaos.
I should start working out. You know, fuck.
You do have a dad bod.
Anyway, that leads us into the poor girls who have to look at that dad bod with its
We'll continue this discussion.
I'll Jason, all of you back on.
If everybody doesn't know, Jason had on baggy clothes and Gabby was on the show

(01:18:01):
and said, well, dad bods OK to Jason.
He owns the shop gym in Manassas and Ashburn.
See, I'm giving you a shout out. Isn't that nice?
Thank you so much.
All right. So let's get into sex trends on TikTok and get Johnny Canterford out of here.
So this was actually an interesting article that led me to have a million articles.
And if you want to go to dream dresser in your head, well, this was the articles.

(01:18:22):
I was like, God, I'm bowling wasn't one of them, Jason.
No, I was last night, baby.
Jerking off tonight. What's up?
God.
It's so good.
So, so you sent me TikTok's hottest sex trends.
And I love how they started the article that TikTok's become so sex positive.

(01:18:45):
I'm like, I don't know about that.
But but they do put a lot of cool shit on there.
And it's it's interesting.
And they said it's the hub for the latest sex trends.
So a couple I wanted to point out, and this wasn't even the best article.
So I'm going to carry this over to next week with another one, because I was like, God damn.
One of them was the OK.
So these are sex challenges on TikTok and a couple of them.

(01:19:08):
I'm like, you're trying to bring back our old school shit.
So shut up. One of them was the coconut trend.
And I think it was started originally by Cordy B.
I think so. You know, yeah.
So you have to do you know what it is?
I don't know what the trend is.
You have to spell out the word coconut with your hips while you're banging.
I don't know what it does, though, because the rest of the one in the sea.

(01:19:32):
I'm going to give you guys some great sex advice.
You should already know.
It's just movement.
Anyway, the egg challenge. This is a good one.
Did you read it?
No. Do you know what it is, Canford?
All right. So the egg challenge is you're putting your pressure point on an egg
and you don't want to split it.
And the point of that is, is because most men go for the clip, but the G spots inside.

(01:19:54):
Right. And if you put pressure, the right pressure is what makes a girl come.
Also, and this is another one, it's hold on.
Well, you put the right pressure on what?
And on her G spot on the G spot on the G spot.
And I mean, the click, you have to do a lot of work previously to have some
an orgasm just from their clit. Yeah.

(01:20:16):
But another thing is definitely the stomach pressure.
Like if you put your hand there while you're doing it, either or oral or banging,
any pressure right there can that will help for sure.
Because I've asked a couple of ladies and it's 50 50.
Let me tell you something.
If I have to if I have to be just a little bit, not like, oh, my God, my bladders.

(01:20:38):
Well, I will hold that shit because it creates pressure and I know make you come like that.
And like the hand, the back of your hand right above or right below the belly button,
like on the pelvis while you're inside.
Yes. OK. Thank you. It works. Thank you.
Works. You're so welcome. I need more flowers.
It's a good story. You can get to you can get to three and maybe I'll give you two.

(01:21:01):
I mean, I like I like this stuff, but at the same time.
Well, they're fun, Frankie. You know, I don't know what I'm saying is like, well, I'm in the I do them all.
Yeah. But what I mean, what I mean, the act, I also pay attention to what you know, how she's morning, what she's doing.
I'm letting you know. A hundred percent.
We're just giving you some help.
But the pressure thing all the time, every time chicks do that, when they masturbate to come, I'm telling you, everyone that I know.

(01:21:29):
Pressure. A little bit of pressure.
The sex pillow challenge, which is I was like, who doesn't do that?
Where you put it under the hips. Yeah, that's put your legs over, put the legs over a slide. Different kind of penetration within and and can also create pressure because you're up higher.
Can I also say to you if there's a little wet spot on the pillow when it's over, that is an accomplishment.
John Canterford, is that an accomplishment?

(01:21:52):
Then to the what spots from.
And it depends what color it is. Oh, God. Oh, God.
I think we're I think we're passed on.
We got to go. We got to go.
The four minute challenge. I like this where you set a play because I don't think people realize how much like they don't have for play.

(01:22:14):
You think you do. So you set a timer for four minutes and you have to have for play.
You cannot. I feel like when you said I know you said timer.
I thought you were going to be like it was about planking coming from you'd be like planking before we fuck.
We got a plank for a minute challenge.
I'm talking about for play. So what I do is I always play not always, but I like to play music.

(01:22:35):
We talked about this in horrible music you play.
So but regardless of how bad before everybody takes that wrong, not because I've heard it because we had a show.
Also, it was because it was also you play some horrible music and that's why you didn't show me.
Country during sex. It's weird.
There you go. I do a good plank.
Plank, baby girl. This is a good banging song. I can outplank you.

(01:22:58):
I promise what I'm getting at real quick is I like to like listen to songs while I'm going down or like because that's the time limit.
So usually most songs are like three to four minutes.
So his secret is he starts singing the lyrics while he's down there to see how he's song.
However, she. Hey, if you think that works, buddy, you better learn some Spanish.

(01:23:21):
Oh, it's OK. You know, the stomach trick was one of them.
Oh, this is the one I was like, why are you trying to take our shit stomach trick?
No, stomach trick was the one I told you about.
And I was like, we hold the gas. That is the best.
That honestly is the best advice for men to do to women.

(01:23:42):
I'm telling you, I'm right. The ankle earring challenge.
And I'm like, I'm like, OK, guys, so I saw this is your legs.
It's what we've always done. Yeah.
Like where you put your legs up on a guy's shoulder.
Like, I don't get it. Like same, same. Yeah.
That's not a challenge for doing that one for years.
I mean, I don't know. I mean, get deep.

(01:24:04):
Most women are just flexible period.
So and the ones who are not that flexible, flexible during sex.
I'm saying the ones who are not that flexible for a woman.
They're still pretty flexible. Yeah.
And for the man standpoint, it's getting deep.
And like that's that's what turns me on about that position.
It was when a man gets deep. What?
God, OK, this is why I come back every other week.

(01:24:27):
I love it. I love it.
I love when he's deep inside. So those were the so those were the
hands on your stomach. I just lost all control when he puts his hands on my belly.
So next week, next week, there's three new sex positions and we're going to talk about them.
But I'm going to give a little foreplay to what's coming up and we'll get into that.

(01:24:50):
And maybe I'll tell you my favorites next week. Oh, you see.
Let's go play some music.
All of them. So the first one, I'm not telling you what they are.
The three legged dog. I knew what all of these was except one without even reading.
I was like, oh, that makes sense.
The Amazon. But only fit couples can do that.

(01:25:11):
So and then I think now I should go have a banana split because that's one of them.
And I will definitely will come back next week.
We'll talk about all those sex positions, maybe tell mine, maybe have a girl and maybe make her tell hers.
So give a little more sex education from Jessica for you boys to go out and not get blue.

(01:25:34):
Anyway, thanks, everybody for tuning in. Thank you, Jason, for coming back.
Guys tune in next week at eight thirty on Wednesday.
Take care, guys. Later.

(01:26:12):
You're welcome.

(01:26:37):
Not daddy. No, I know.

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