#21: The Call to Serve: Bobby Wade on Ayahuasca, Accountability & the Wisdom of Elders

Topics Discussed: Ayahuasca, rites of passage, the journey from participant to healer, the wisdom of elders, commercialization of spiritual practices, accountability in plant medicine, integration, and more.

Our host, Mags Tanev, sits down with Bobby Wade to explore the deep healing potential of plant medicine — particularly ayahuasca — and the lessons learned from years of working in ceremonial spaces.

Bobby shares his personal path from sitting in ceremony to holding space for others, offering reflections on why rites of passage are essential, how elders guide and protect the work, and the real challenges faced in keeping ceremonial spaces safe and meaningful.

The conversation also tackles the pitfalls of commercialization, the need for accountability among both healers and participants, and practical, everyday ways to integrate the teachings of the medicine into life outside the maloca.

Bobby’s perspective is grounded, honest, and rooted in experience — offering both inspiration and caution for anyone drawn to the world of plant medicine.