January 7, 2024 • 14 mins
In our latest episode we delve into the question Jesus asked in Mark 9, and how it echoes in the chambers of our own childhood experiences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up guys, welcome back to Triumph Over
Trauma.
As you can tell from the day'sepisode when I was a child is
the title.
Listen I was reading the Biblethe other day and this
particular scripture stood outto me.
It literally jumped out to mein such a way it was kind of
revelatory.
I had heard this particularstory before but for some reason
(00:20):
, as I was taking my time, ittook on a different meaning as I
was reading it.
Before I go there, I want tosay this though there's a saying
that goes adulthood is the timewe spend recovering from
childhood things that happenedin our childhood and of course,
as a childhood trauma survivor,I can relate to that saying
(00:42):
wholeheartedly.
Many of you know my story.
I spent the first two decadesof my life fighting rejection,
abandonment, neglect and abuseall manner of traumatic
experiences.
They are called ACEs adversechildhood experiences and so
when I heard the saying that wespend our adulthoods recovering
(01:04):
from what happened in ourchildhoods, I was like, hmm,
that definitely rings true,right for me.
But I did also have to takesome thought to the fact that
for me, childhood is notrelegated just to an age.
Childhood encompasses themindset, the dispositions,
(01:25):
attitudes, beliefs, overalltemperament of an individual,
because you can be physically anadult but still operate in the
mindset of a child, and so,again, I don't think childhood
is relegated to an age.
But I was reading thisparticular scripture in Luke,
(01:45):
chapter 9, and the Bible saysthat this particular father came
to Jesus's disciples, right,and he came to have his son
delivered.
His son was possessed by anunclean spirit.
The Bible says that thisunclean spirit convulsed him, it
threw him about, it made himstiff, it made him rigid and
(02:08):
made him foam at the mouth.
It was almost like it wasgiving him seizure-like
behaviors.
Right, and the Bible says thatthis father brought his son to
Jesus's disciples to bedelivered and Jesus's disciples
could not cast the demon out.
And Jesus sees that there aresome going, you know, some back
(02:29):
and forth going on between thefather and the Jesus and Jesus's
disciple, and Jesus basicallysays what's up, what's going on?
And the father says, listen,I've brought my child here to
for the disciples to cast thisdemon out of them, and they
could not.
And so Jesus has a few words,he says a few words regarding
that to the disciples and thenhe proceeds to deliver this boy,
(02:52):
to cast this spirit out of theout of the boy.
But when the spirit recognizesJesus, the Bible says that he
convulses the boy, he throws himabout even more violently, the
boy forms at the mouth and thenfalls on the ground and it is
presumed that the boy is dead.
Right.
And this is when the story kindof takes on a different meaning
(03:15):
for me, because I had never seenthis type of interaction
between Jesus and another personat the point of deliverance.
Typically, when Jesus was aboutto deliver somebody, especially
from a demonic spirit, he wouldask the spirit with his name or
he would either tell the spiritto shut him and come out right.
But the Bible says, rightbefore he goes to deliver this
(03:38):
boy, that he asks the father howlong has this been happening?
And the father's response wasliterally where it jumped out to
me.
The father says since childhood, since childhood.
And I immediately startedthinking about what are the
things that still affect me tothis day, that have origins in
(04:02):
my childhood right?
What are the mindsets, what arethe dispositions, what are the
attitudes, what inability toemotionally regulate myself as a
result of something thathappened in childhood.
And so, going back to the storyin Mark, chapter 9, I
originally said it was Luke,chapter 9, but it was actually
Mark, chapter 9.
But, going back to the story, Ithought it was so important that
(04:25):
Jesus asked the father thatquestion how long had this been
happening?
See, because, even though hewas about to deliver the boy
from this spirit, what we wereseeing, or what they were seeing
at that particular time, wasthe manifestation of this demon,
was the manifestation of thisspirit in the boy's life.
And sometimes we as a society,as a people, we often look at
(04:48):
the manifestation of a person'sproblem attitude, disposition,
the mindset.
We see the later end of it orthe result of it.
But this was something thatoriginated in the boy's
childhood.
And I think about all of themanifestations that I've had as
far as my attitude, disposition,behavior, patterns, decisions,
(05:08):
things I've done that were as aresult of something that
affected me from my childhood.
And I think that this is aquestion that we need to
consider in our own traumahealing journeys is how long
have we been affected by whatwe've been affected by?
How far back do we need to gowhether it stems from something
(05:28):
that happened in our childhoodor our adulthood?
How far back do we need toreflect on what we've
experienced so that weunderstand why we are where we
are today.
And so I thought that questionwas so profound that Jesus acts,
and I thought the fact that thefather was able to trace it
back.
Hey, wait a minute.
This has been happening sincehe was a child.
What has been happening in yourlife, what has happened in your
(05:53):
life since you were a childthat affects you today?
And, honestly, that's a part ofthe trauma healing journey.
That's the first step in beingable to heal is identifying
where this pain comes from,where this learned behavior
comes from, where this copingmechanism comes from right,
sometimes it's rooted in ourpast and we don't even realize
(06:16):
it.
This behavior comes fromsomewhere, and we have to begin
to identify that.
So I'm asking you the questionhow long, how long have you gone
through what you've gonethrough?
How long have you beensuffering in silence?
How long have you been hurting?
How long have you been in pain?
How long have you been angry?
How long have you been lashingout?
How long have you been holdingyourself hostage to the past?
(06:36):
How long have you spentself-sabotaging?
How long have you been down onyourself?
How long have you beenstruggling with depression?
In regards to how long it'sbeen and where the pain
originates.
It's never too late.
It's never too late to heal.
It was never too late to bemade whole.
It's never too late to startover, to begin again, to
reconcile your past with yourpresent, so that you have peace
(07:00):
in your future.
Because, remember I said in thebeginning, after reading Mark 9,
it actually reminded me ofanother scripture, first
Corinthians 1311.
It says when I was a child, Ispake as a child, I understood
as a child and I thought as achild.
Right, it says, but when Ibecame a man, I put away
childish things.
One version says when I becamea man, I put away the things of
(07:24):
childhood.
And I'm not saying that it'seasy to get over some of the
things that we've experienced,whether they be in our childhood
or not.
I'm not saying that you know assoon as you become an adult
that you should be able to letthese things go, because it's a
process.
But what I am saying is thatscripture lets me know that
there is a place of healing andmaturity that you can get to,
(07:47):
where you put away the thingsthat happen to you in childhood
and the effects of those thingsand the behavior patterns that
are as a result of some of thethings that we've experienced in
our childhoods, right?
So how do we do that?
How do we get to the place ofhealing and wholeness and
reconciliation?
We first recognize where we'vebeen.
We recognize that we've beenthrough something, that it has
(08:10):
affected us right, regardless ofhow long ago it is that it
happened.
Sometimes people think thatunresolved trauma has an
expiration date, but it neverexpires if you never face it.
It is always there, right.
What I have learned is thatunresolved trauma will beg to be
validated.
(08:30):
So you will continue certainpatterns and cycles in your life
until you acknowledge whatyou've been through right.
And, like I said before on thepodcast, then you have to be
patient with yourself, right.
Once you identify and recognizewhat you've been through and
how it has affected you, thereis a whole new process that's
(08:50):
going to begin and you have tobe patient with yourself even in
that process that you don'tharm your progress by rushing it
, by making yourself I should beover this by now, or how long
is it gonna take me, or justbeing down on yourself, because
(09:11):
you have emotions and you are ahuman being.
So you gotta be patient withyourself through your process.
Be patient with yourself, evenwith your progress, because it
may take some time to heal.
It may take some time for youto see clearly.
It may take some time for youto unlearn those behaviors.
It may take some time for youto develop healthy coping
(09:35):
mechanisms where you once hadnegative coping mechanisms.
And the most important part ofhealing from your past, the most
important part of the traumahealing journey, is to seek help
.
Y'all know I'm gonna quote theBible because I love it, but the
Bible says, in a multitude ofcounsel there is safety and it's
(09:56):
important that we seek help,that we seek community, that we
seek support, and so that cancome in different ways.
And what works best for me isnot only having a
trauma-informed mental healthTherapist but also having people
in my life who I can, you know,count on and rely on and speak
to, even when I'm Don't have asession, you know, with my
(10:17):
therapist.
It it means for me also, youknow, keeping constant
communication open with the Lord, with talking to God about how
I feel, where I'm going through,where I am From day to day.
Listen, it's a new year, andhappy new year, by the way,
listen but we got someOpportunities that God wants to
bless us with, some favorite,that God wants to bestow on us,
(10:38):
some blessings that are longoverdue.
I know I've been praying forsome things for a while and I
started to think about maybeSome of the reasons why they
were may have been hindered isbecause of my growth right, and
I'm like well, god, search myheart, search my spirit, search
my mind.
Tell me where I'm still hurtingor where there is potential in
me to sabotage what you want togive me Because of what I've
(11:01):
been doing the past right, andso it's time to turn a search
light on all of us too, so thatwe can walk in with God really
has for us.
I really believe that there aresome things that are coming to
God's people this year.
I really believe that there'ssome things that he wants to do
in this, but first he has tomake us whole.
First is the hill is.
First he has to deliver usright from things that we've
(11:23):
been doing, experiences thatwe've had.
The good news is that we can belike Paul in the latter
scripture that we discussed,when he said when I became a man
, I put away childish things.
Therefore, let us seek healingin a wholeness.
Let us endeavor to do what ittakes to mature and to move
forward in areas of our liveswhen we know we've been affected
(11:45):
by our past.
With that being said, I'm goingto end in prayer.
Father, thank you for your wordthat you left behind to
encourage us, to inspire us, tomotivate us.
We are truly inspired andencouraged today to seek healing
, to seek wholeness and to seekmaturity.
We know that you have so manythings in store for us and that
(12:06):
your thoughts to orders arepeace and not evil, and to give
us an expected in our hope inthe future.
We pray for the God, for all ofthe things that we've been
through, all of the things thatwe've Suffered, all of the
things that we've experiencedthat affect us to this day.
We pray that you heal us, thatyou make us whole, that you
deliver us, that you give us joyin peace in every area of our
(12:28):
lives, so that we may moveforward to the things that you
have for us.
We pray this prayer in Jesus'holy name, amen.
Thanks so much for tuning intoday, guys, listen, there is
information in the show notesthat you might wanna check out.
At the bottom of each episode'swebpage, there is a box that
says show notes.
The show notes will includetoday's topic information, as
(12:51):
well as resources regardingfinding the therapist.
There's also some links tobooks that I'm reading to help
me along the trauma healingjourney.
You can also find ways tosupport the show and my contact
information.
Listen, I am Ms Eve on all ofmy socials TikTok, instagram,
facebook and YouTube.
The Triumph Over Trauma podcastdoes also have its own YouTube
(13:13):
page.
You can follow me there if youlike.
Until next time, guys, don'tforget Now.
Thanks.
Be unto God, who always causesus to triumph.
I'll see you later.
Bye.
What's up guys, welcome back to Triumph Over
Trauma.
As you can tell from the day'sepisode when I was a child is
the title.
Listen I was reading the Biblethe other day and this
particular scripture stood outto me.
It literally jumped out to mein such a way it was kind of
revelatory.
I had heard this particularstory before but for some reason
(00:20):
, as I was taking my time, ittook on a different meaning as I
was reading it.
Before I go there, I want tosay this though there's a saying
that goes adulthood is the timewe spend recovering from
childhood things that happenedin our childhood and of course,
as a childhood trauma survivor,I can relate to that saying
(00:42):
wholeheartedly.
Many of you know my story.
I spent the first two decadesof my life fighting rejection,
abandonment, neglect and abuseall manner of traumatic
experiences.
They are called ACEs adversechildhood experiences and so
when I heard the saying that wespend our adulthoods recovering
(01:04):
from what happened in ourchildhoods, I was like, hmm,
that definitely rings true,right for me.
But I did also have to takesome thought to the fact that
for me, childhood is notrelegated just to an age.
Childhood encompasses themindset, the dispositions,
(01:25):
attitudes, beliefs, overalltemperament of an individual,
because you can be physically anadult but still operate in the
mindset of a child, and so,again, I don't think childhood
is relegated to an age.
But I was reading thisparticular scripture in Luke,
(01:45):
chapter 9, and the Bible saysthat this particular father came
to Jesus's disciples, right,and he came to have his son
delivered.
His son was possessed by anunclean spirit.
The Bible says that thisunclean spirit convulsed him, it
threw him about, it made himstiff, it made him rigid and
(02:08):
made him foam at the mouth.
It was almost like it wasgiving him seizure-like
behaviors.
Right, and the Bible says thatthis father brought his son to
Jesus's disciples to bedelivered and Jesus's disciples
could not cast the demon out.
And Jesus sees that there aresome going, you know, some back
(02:29):
and forth going on between thefather and the Jesus and Jesus's
disciple, and Jesus basicallysays what's up, what's going on?
And the father says, listen,I've brought my child here to
for the disciples to cast thisdemon out of them, and they
could not.
And so Jesus has a few words,he says a few words regarding
that to the disciples and thenhe proceeds to deliver this boy,
(02:52):
to cast this spirit out of theout of the boy.
But when the spirit recognizesJesus, the Bible says that he
convulses the boy, he throws himabout even more violently, the
boy forms at the mouth and thenfalls on the ground and it is
presumed that the boy is dead.
Right.
And this is when the story kindof takes on a different meaning
(03:15):
for me, because I had never seenthis type of interaction
between Jesus and another personat the point of deliverance.
Typically, when Jesus was aboutto deliver somebody, especially
from a demonic spirit, he wouldask the spirit with his name or
he would either tell the spiritto shut him and come out right.
But the Bible says, rightbefore he goes to deliver this
(03:38):
boy, that he asks the father howlong has this been happening?
And the father's response wasliterally where it jumped out to
me.
The father says since childhood, since childhood.
And I immediately startedthinking about what are the
things that still affect me tothis day, that have origins in
(04:02):
my childhood right?
What are the mindsets, what arethe dispositions, what are the
attitudes, what inability toemotionally regulate myself as a
result of something thathappened in childhood.
And so, going back to the storyin Mark, chapter 9, I
originally said it was Luke,chapter 9, but it was actually
Mark, chapter 9.
But, going back to the story, Ithought it was so important that
(04:25):
Jesus asked the father thatquestion how long had this been
happening?
See, because, even though hewas about to deliver the boy
from this spirit, what we wereseeing, or what they were seeing
at that particular time, wasthe manifestation of this demon,
was the manifestation of thisspirit in the boy's life.
And sometimes we as a society,as a people, we often look at
(04:48):
the manifestation of a person'sproblem attitude, disposition,
the mindset.
We see the later end of it orthe result of it.
But this was something thatoriginated in the boy's
childhood.
And I think about all of themanifestations that I've had as
far as my attitude, disposition,behavior, patterns, decisions,
(05:08):
things I've done that were as aresult of something that
affected me from my childhood.
And I think that this is aquestion that we need to
consider in our own traumahealing journeys is how long
have we been affected by whatwe've been affected by?
How far back do we need to gowhether it stems from something
(05:28):
that happened in our childhoodor our adulthood?
How far back do we need toreflect on what we've
experienced so that weunderstand why we are where we
are today.
And so I thought that questionwas so profound that Jesus acts,
and I thought the fact that thefather was able to trace it
back.
Hey, wait a minute.
This has been happening sincehe was a child.
What has been happening in yourlife, what has happened in your
(05:53):
life since you were a childthat affects you today?
And, honestly, that's a part ofthe trauma healing journey.
That's the first step in beingable to heal is identifying
where this pain comes from,where this learned behavior
comes from, where this copingmechanism comes from right,
sometimes it's rooted in ourpast and we don't even realize
(06:16):
it.
This behavior comes fromsomewhere, and we have to begin
to identify that.
So I'm asking you the questionhow long, how long have you gone
through what you've gonethrough?
How long have you beensuffering in silence?
How long have you been hurting?
How long have you been in pain?
How long have you been angry?
How long have you been lashingout?
How long have you been holdingyourself hostage to the past?
(06:36):
How long have you spentself-sabotaging?
How long have you been down onyourself?
How long have you beenstruggling with depression?
In regards to how long it'sbeen and where the pain
originates.
It's never too late.
It's never too late to heal.
It was never too late to bemade whole.
It's never too late to startover, to begin again, to
reconcile your past with yourpresent, so that you have peace
(07:00):
in your future.
Because, remember I said in thebeginning, after reading Mark 9,
it actually reminded me ofanother scripture, first
Corinthians 1311.
It says when I was a child, Ispake as a child, I understood
as a child and I thought as achild.
Right, it says, but when Ibecame a man, I put away
childish things.
One version says when I becamea man, I put away the things of
(07:24):
childhood.
And I'm not saying that it'seasy to get over some of the
things that we've experienced,whether they be in our childhood
or not.
I'm not saying that you know assoon as you become an adult
that you should be able to letthese things go, because it's a
process.
But what I am saying is thatscripture lets me know that
there is a place of healing andmaturity that you can get to,
(07:47):
where you put away the thingsthat happen to you in childhood
and the effects of those thingsand the behavior patterns that
are as a result of some of thethings that we've experienced in
our childhoods, right?
So how do we do that?
How do we get to the place ofhealing and wholeness and
reconciliation?
We first recognize where we'vebeen.
We recognize that we've beenthrough something, that it has
(08:10):
affected us right, regardless ofhow long ago it is that it
happened.
Sometimes people think thatunresolved trauma has an
expiration date, but it neverexpires if you never face it.
It is always there, right.
What I have learned is thatunresolved trauma will beg to be
validated.
(08:30):
So you will continue certainpatterns and cycles in your life
until you acknowledge whatyou've been through right.
And, like I said before on thepodcast, then you have to be
patient with yourself, right.
Once you identify and recognizewhat you've been through and
how it has affected you, thereis a whole new process that's
(08:50):
going to begin and you have tobe patient with yourself even in
that process that you don'tharm your progress by rushing it
, by making yourself I should beover this by now, or how long
is it gonna take me, or justbeing down on yourself, because
(09:11):
you have emotions and you are ahuman being.
So you gotta be patient withyourself through your process.
Be patient with yourself, evenwith your progress, because it
may take some time to heal.
It may take some time for youto see clearly.
It may take some time for youto unlearn those behaviors.
It may take some time for youto develop healthy coping
(09:35):
mechanisms where you once hadnegative coping mechanisms.
And the most important part ofhealing from your past, the most
important part of the traumahealing journey, is to seek help
.
Y'all know I'm gonna quote theBible because I love it, but the
Bible says, in a multitude ofcounsel there is safety and it's
(09:56):
important that we seek help,that we seek community, that we
seek support, and so that cancome in different ways.
And what works best for me isnot only having a
trauma-informed mental healthTherapist but also having people
in my life who I can, you know,count on and rely on and speak
to, even when I'm Don't have asession, you know, with my
(10:17):
therapist.
It it means for me also, youknow, keeping constant
communication open with the Lord, with talking to God about how
I feel, where I'm going through,where I am From day to day.
Listen, it's a new year, andhappy new year, by the way,
listen but we got someOpportunities that God wants to
bless us with, some favorite,that God wants to bestow on us,
(10:38):
some blessings that are longoverdue.
I know I've been praying forsome things for a while and I
started to think about maybeSome of the reasons why they
were may have been hindered isbecause of my growth right, and
I'm like well, god, search myheart, search my spirit, search
my mind.
Tell me where I'm still hurtingor where there is potential in
me to sabotage what you want togive me Because of what I've
(11:01):
been doing the past right, andso it's time to turn a search
light on all of us too, so thatwe can walk in with God really
has for us.
I really believe that there aresome things that are coming to
God's people this year.
I really believe that there'ssome things that he wants to do
in this, but first he has tomake us whole.
First is the hill is.
First he has to deliver usright from things that we've
(11:23):
been doing, experiences thatwe've had.
The good news is that we can belike Paul in the latter
scripture that we discussed,when he said when I became a man
, I put away childish things.
Therefore, let us seek healingin a wholeness.
Let us endeavor to do what ittakes to mature and to move
forward in areas of our liveswhen we know we've been affected
(11:45):
by our past.
With that being said, I'm goingto end in prayer.
Father, thank you for your wordthat you left behind to
encourage us, to inspire us, tomotivate us.
We are truly inspired andencouraged today to seek healing
, to seek wholeness and to seekmaturity.
We know that you have so manythings in store for us and that
(12:06):
your thoughts to orders arepeace and not evil, and to give
us an expected in our hope inthe future.
We pray for the God, for all ofthe things that we've been
through, all of the things thatwe've Suffered, all of the
things that we've experiencedthat affect us to this day.
We pray that you heal us, thatyou make us whole, that you
deliver us, that you give us joyin peace in every area of our
(12:28):
lives, so that we may moveforward to the things that you
have for us.
We pray this prayer in Jesus'holy name, amen.
Thanks so much for tuning intoday, guys, listen, there is
information in the show notesthat you might wanna check out.
At the bottom of each episode'swebpage, there is a box that
says show notes.
The show notes will includetoday's topic information, as
(12:51):
well as resources regardingfinding the therapist.
There's also some links tobooks that I'm reading to help
me along the trauma healingjourney.
You can also find ways tosupport the show and my contact
information.
Listen, I am Ms Eve on all ofmy socials TikTok, instagram,
facebook and YouTube.
The Triumph Over Trauma podcastdoes also have its own YouTube
(13:13):
page.
You can follow me there if youlike.
Until next time, guys, don'tforget Now.
Thanks.
Be unto God, who always causesus to triumph.
I'll see you later.
Bye.
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