S3 E16 - Janae Burris - Single Mom Comedy

S3 E16 - Janae Burris - Single Mom Comedy is hard. Janae wants to apologize to all the moms she judged in the past for not staying as active as an artist after they became a parent. She gets it now and is trying to navigate being a new single mom, comedian, actor and host of Film on the Rocks and other events while trying to find a good, reliable trustworthy nanny.

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Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Traumedy, the podcast that helps you take
your pain and play with it. I'm Nancy Norton, I am a
comedian. I am a keynote speaker about the
power of humor and a former registered nurse.
And hey, happy nurses week everybody.
Happy Nurses Week. I'm doing 2 shows for nurses
week. I have a show tonight, it's

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Tuesday May 6th at Comedy Works South Down in South Denver and
then May 8th I'll be in ColoradoSprings at Loonies Comedy
Corner. So come out, bring your nurse
friends. Half the show is the audience
telling stories on their patients.
Sometimes it's on. We don't violate any HIPAA

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regulations, but we do get close.
Try not to do any identifying things, however.
It's about the nurses getting rid of vicarious trauma, getting
you can't be alone with this stuff, you got to let it out or
some of the funniest, craziest things.
Also love to hear miracles that happened at work.
You know, really cool things. Like one time when I was in
Hawaii and I was working in painmanagement and I was helping

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mothers with their postpartum pain.
But then I was also helping people who were dying on another
floor in the hospital, making sure they had good pain
management. So I was basically just going
around to check on people's painmanagement level.
I went in to check on a patient as she was actively dying and
her eyes just had this like portal.

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I don't know. I almost felt like I was looking
into the beyond through her eyesand it was just this very
peaceful place. And then I went down to the
newborn nursery and postpartum and I thought I saw her in the
eyes of a brand new baby. I mean, it was one of the most

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like, whoa, that's her. It looked like her.
It looked like the same. But maybe it's just 'cause
they're brand new. You know that this just in from
the spirit realm, people don't really know where consciousness
comes from. So I know a lot of folks don't
like spiritual things in evidence based, science based
thing. But listen, I'm a fifth
generation nurse and before thatwe were called witches.

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So hey, I'm intuitive and I'm sticking with it.
And every nurse I know has had agut feeling about something that
the machine said was not a problem.
It's like, wait, something's offwith this patient, even though
all of the markers are right, the labs are good, the telemetry

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is good. We something, there's something
beyond the measurable devices that I just think intuition, gut
knowledge, I don't know. There's a lot there and every
mom. Come on, Mother's Day is coming
up. My guest this week, she is a
mom, an amazing comedian, is a host at Film on the Rocks, and

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she is a newly single mom. And I remember this time when my
son was a toddler and going through a breakup and how hard
it is because toddlers require so much energy.
I would like to be laughing and then if I had a moment to
myself, my brain just goes this is hard.
Instead of it's just the momentsaren't coming.

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And when the moment comes, that's all I can hear is this is
hard. This is hard.
I would see my reflection in my phone every now and then.
I'm like, Oh my God, I did not know I was.
I was. I just was so disappointed.
I looked at my face today and was like, Lord Jesus, It was
like a somebody made a mask withtoo much clay on it.
It was just like heavy and sad. I had to put my wig on just to

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pull my face back a little bit today.
But you had the scowling and just like, girl, you beat up.
Yeah. Remember, no matter how hard it
gets, you got to try to make space for some humor.
It's hard to do. It's counterintuitive.
It's when you least think you can laugh at something is when
you need it the most. So I hope you're finding

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something to laugh about in these trying times.
Enjoy this episode. I'll see you on the other side.
Welcome to Traumedy. My guest this week is a
comedian, an actor and an event host.
I love that. Welcome Janae Burris, everybody.
Thanks. Thanks.

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Now and when I hear you say it, I'm like, OK, does that suit me?
Does that fit me OK? I like that you're putting it
out there what you want. Like this is what you're good
at, though you can do all these things.
You can. You're so much more.
Like you said, you limited it tothree things for some reason,
but there's an infinite amount of at the.
School people put too much. It makes it sounds like you're
not an expert in anything. You know the whole Jack of all

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trades thing. But so that's why I limited.
I'm like, Oh no, I think I, I also feel that I can be good at
all three of those things. I feel confident in it.
I don't. Really.
I'm going to. Say honest.
Hey, I will. I want to say not just good,
you're great at all those things.
Thank you. I have seen you in all those
things. And I want to say the event host

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piece, I've not introduced anyone that way, but man, I
can't tell you how many people reach out to me saying, would
you host this event or would youdo you know MC this fundraiser?
And I think I was, we just played Scrabble.
And I was telling you the blessing in the curse of
dyslexia is that I can unscramble and re scramble
words. But if when I host like an event
like that, they often give me a page of stuff to read.

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I can't read very well in front of people.
I, I have all some of a panic attack and I just, I get anxious
and I can do it if there's something short enough I can
memorize or at least practice it.
It just makes me nervous. I don't like it, but I think the
fact that you also teach hostingat comedy works, right?
You teach people how to host. Obviously you're an expert in

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it. So I'm just saying, hey there.
If anybody out there is here with this and you need a host
for an event who's a headlining comedian, I mean, that is
golden. We need to manifest.
I hope, I hope more of those, you know, what came through my
Instagram, Instagram's constantly selling me something
and I think it's listening to meand whatever you know, it is

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because I was getting a lot of public speaker things being like
click on this, you know, for my free workshop.
And now I'm getting these this recently.
This guy's like talking about a database for MCS and event
hosts. You know, I was like, Oh yeah,
maybe, you know, I, I, I'd be into that even if I don't am not
familiar with the subject. It's like, give me what's the

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date, what's the time, give me the itinerary and the paperwork
or whatever. And what's it being?
What am I being paid? Yeah, I will read your paper.
I will smile and charm the audience.
I don't know anything about technology, but.
But you're. I'll try to just be funny and
charming and. I have to say your style is so
you like you're just so laid back.

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You make people comfortable. You know, like my I have a lot
of neurotic energy and I I push my energy pretty far, but I
don't think it's sustainable. I can do it, but it's like, I
don't know that it's sustainableover a 2 hour event like going
up and down like that. I can do it, but I don't know, I
feel like when I'm doing stand up, I definitely amp up Olmance

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like my yeah, whereas you are you like you are like, hey.
Yeah, I mean, when I'm, when I'mhosting, I do turn it up.
I do a different hosting energy for sure versus when I'm
headlining. I'm incredibly laid back when
I'm headlining, you are I take my time.
But for hosting I do and I teachpeople to turn up the energy.

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I do believe that it requires. I think that that hosting is
more of a marathon. So you, you do need to sustain
your energy to sustain the crowd.
That is your job. Even if you're not the funniest
person, can you at least keep everyone's attention and keep
them awake, keep them involved in the event for the two hours
or whatever? But I want to say even your laid
back energy is very engaging. It it's not that it's not

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captivating because I think it still is.
And I to me, if I was going to an event and you were going up
there, I, you make me lean in and I lean in and I want to hear
what is she saying? And there's a lot of confidence
behind you because you're just like, what you see is what you
get. To me, it just puts out like
this confidence of like, it's not pushing, it's not pulling

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back. It's just like, I'm right here,
really present. Really present.
Thanks. Yeah.
You know, it's funny. Like you were just we were just
saying now that we are both headlining all the time, we
don't get to work with each other as much because we're on
different gigs. So I miss and I haven't, I just
haven't been able to get down tocomedy works like I used to.
So. Yeah, it's, I mean, I'm there on

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Tuesdays doing notes and stuff. You're teaching.
Teaching, trying to kind of be ashowrunner for the Tuesday night
show. And I do.
I miss everybody. I'm just like, where is
everybody? Everybody graduated and I'm
teaching at our old college and it's all babies now.
All right, we need to get back back out, but then when we like

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when the pros go on, you're backgiving no and.
Back giving no, so I don't get to see people, but I feel
connected if I just see their names and then I try to pop out,
you know, at the bar and say, hey, thanks for being here,
'cause I know as a pro you're not getting paid.
And I'm like, I hope you just come and do some open mic time
here, use this great audience and drink for cheap.

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And thanks for being here for making the show better.
I need y'all like I look at thatpro list and I'm like, I feel
responsible for the show. I hope that I've chosen a good
host and I hope that good pros come through to show that.
I don't know. I feel like we showcase Denver
there. So I mean, Denver, how long have
you been a comedian and how longhave you been in Denver?

(09:59):
It's been 10 years in Denver andabout 16, I say 16 years, 16
years is I took a class, but youknow, I didn't really crank it
up until I got to Denver. And that's when you went pro.
Yeah, yeah. So the the six years before
Denver was doing some shows hereand they are really wanting to

(10:21):
be a comedian, but not being in a community where the
opportunity was there, but doingas much as I could.
I lived in Fresno and we had like a few open mics here and
there. We did some bar shows, we had
some casino shows, but I wasn't aspiring to anything.
I was just trying to be funnier.I wasn't really trying to anyway
when I got to Denver. The scene here is so.

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Yeah, the scene was great and I came in with it was just bigger
than where I was, so I was really excited to be here.
So 10 years of trying to go at it, but yeah, I don't think I
quit my my last day job was all the dates are mixed up now since
the pandemic. I know, I know it is kind of

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messing with. When you said 10 years, I was
thinking, OK, so 2015, it's 2025now.
And then I only started going back into comedy because my son
turned 11 in 2015. And that's when he would push me
out the door. Like, I'm ready for you to go.
He had a lot of separation anxiety.
And then you know you're a single mom.
I I I'm a newly single mom. With a toddler.

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I mean, he's still he's 2. You think I hear him?
Yeah, we might hear him. He's in the other room with
Stephanie McHugh. Mommy.
It takes a village. We've been in here for a little
bit, He just now noticed. Oh, is he?
Do you hear him? You heard him asking for you.
I think I heard Where's Mommy? But she probably just.
Says I can't tell if that's my son singing in the.
Base do hear him singing as well.

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OK, so that's gonna be on the back.
I guess I'll just leave. You know we're mom this.
Is, I mean, the noise is always there.
There's never. Sometimes he falls asleep in the
car and I turn the radio off andI'm just like, yeah, just this
is this is my time. Just stay.
Have quiet. You're right.
So let's see, you started in 2015.
This is where we were. Yeah, 2014.

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Actually, oh, 2014. June, June.
So I guess it's about to be 11 years.
June 2014 about to be 11 to Colorado.
Wow. And 'cause I knew you were
already kind of established by the time, like I think it was
2016 that I went back and as a single mom, I, my son had a lot

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of separation anxiety and he didn't like me to leave in the
evenings, even though I did havea significant other
intermittently that helped with him.
So, and you're a newly single mom trying to navigate all this.
That I didn't understand that when you came back, when people
told me like, Oh yeah, Nancy wasreally funny.
She, Nancy did all of this stuff.
She's been gone for a while and,you know, 'cause she's a mom.

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I was just like, I don't get it.Why did why did she stop?
Why did she? It made me.
I didn't know you had on. It was just like, who is this
lady just showing up again? Like we've moved on.
Lady, I know the whole scene hadevolved like the Growlicks guys
were not around when I left. Josh Blue was an open miker.

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When I went. When I left for Nepal, he was
letting somebody pour beer in his ear, laying on.
Stick. Trying to get laughs and then I
come back and he's like, Oh yeah, Josh is the headliner.
These three Growlicks guys, guysare kings, you know, and I mean
it was like who? Who are all these people?
And you were there and you were doing the Pussy Bros.
Yeah, you. It was already everybody.

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Was I was so outside I wasn't a parent and I didn't understand
the connection between yeah, shehad a kid and she took a break
and enter the child with his music.
He's got this amp going. Oh man.
OK, listen, I let's just keep going this.

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Is a very special episode with like a little under score going.
But so you like, thank you for So what you're saying is you
could not empathize with that. You couldn't understand it like,
oh, it's just a kid. Why aren't?
Why aren't you out here doing shit?
Makes you. Yeah.
Why would she have so much success and be as funny as
everybody said? Oh, that's Nancy.
Nancy's really funny. Oh, it's like, so if Nancy's

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really funny and she was doing well, then why'd she stop?
Yeah. Because I tried to tour with a
with literally a potty chair anda pack and play.
I am not kidding you, Janae. I tried.
And then I would call the club owner and say, Hey, do you have
a teenage daughter, somebody that can watch my son while I'm
on stage? And then I mean, and then it
just didn't it, it never, it just was like, you know what?

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And luckily, like I said, I havethis nursing license and I just
had to go back to work as a nurse because I wasn't expecting
to be a single mom either. I went through that huge breakup
with the ex and blah, blah, blah.
But so when you're here telling me, you know, you're a newly
single mom and I'm like, OK, let's get creative.

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You don't have to take 10 years off like I did.
We can get creative. And I, I was just suggesting
like housemate that is, I don't know.
There's there's got to be creative solutions and we do
need more support like. It it feels, it feels I'm I'm a
little bit scared and hurt by the I I feel.

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First of all, I need to apologize to every mom artist I
ever judged for taking a break because it's so hard.
It's so hard to do. It is not the industry and even
the craft of being an artist. It doesn't as much creativity as
I have as a mom and what I'm experiencing in my just my

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feelings, the way I am in the world as a mom, all of that that
I have. The industry is like not set up
for me to be able to share that the, the time it takes, the
community that you need, you know, the ability to earn a
living. Before it was just like, I'm
I'll earn enough was all. You know, that was the goal.
I just want to be an artist. Yeah.

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And earn enough. Me too.
That's it. I just.
Wanted to create, not trying to acquire wealth.
I wasn't trying to acquire wealth.
Because that's the artist's soul.
It's like there'll be enough, there'll be shelter, there'll be
food. I just, I wanted to create.
That was what that's where I feel most comfortable.
I want to be in it. I don't like school was hard.
Regular school all day, that washard for me because not every

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subject appealed to me and not every subject made sense.
And I didn't like not being goodat stuff or feeling shy and
embarrassed all the time. But with the arts, I've always
felt good and confident. And even when I don't have the
skill, I believe I can learn theskill and I can grow and I can
get better and I can see someoneelse and I can set a goal and be

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like, OK, I want to do that. What that person's doing, I I
just want to keep doing that. But then as a mom, you're like,
you must earn a living. I know you must.
It's a different feeling totally, Yeah, when you are the
sole provider for a child and and also for me.
I, I mean, I told my son and here we are back in this.

(17:16):
We had moved out, rented this out for a little while, but we
moved in here when my son was a little older than Ezra, your
son's Ezra, my son's Nathaniel. So if we reference them, it's
just I told him I wanted him to have a stable home.
So I was like, that was another piece for me because of I went
through just crazy making break up with safe house told me I'd

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been with a sociopath for 11 years and and I just, I wanted
him. I want I for me too, a
foundation. So there's that too.
It's like, oh, not only do I have to have food and shelter,
but I have to like I want to provide a sense of foundation
and stability for him. And not that you can't do that
in different ways, but for me, Ijust wanted him to, yeah, have a
sense of this is home. And I lived in different

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people's houses for, gosh, 22 tofour years because all these
legal battles I had to go through.
It's so hard going through a separation or breakup with your
baby, you know, with your toddler.
One of the things I learned about therapeutic humor when
it's going, when I was going through all that, I actually

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stumbled on these articles abouthow humor helps us.
Not only with getting rid of some of those stress hormones in
our body, but also with creativeproblem solving.
And here I am a comedian. But I was like, I wasn't working
that much and I wasn't laughing very much.
So I had to like, develop this idea.
Like, OK, I have to go out of myway to laugh more.

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I don't know. Do you use humor yourself?
I know you give a lot of humor, you express it, but do you use
humor personally to help you Hope.
I don't think that I do, not lately.
Things just aren't feeling too funny lately.
Things aren't feeling funny lately.
Exactly. It's.

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Just it's so hard. Yeah, I everyday I'm like, it's
so hard. That is my and I don't want to
keep doing that. I I want to be in a positive
place already. I'm I desire that, but I'm just
not there. I'm in the middle of I'm I'm at
the beginning of a battle, a custody battle at the very

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beginning of it. And it's already hard.
So every day I would like to be laughing.
And then if I had a moment to myself, my brain just goes, this
is hard. Instead of it's just the moments
aren't coming. And when the moment comes,
that's all I can hear is this ishard.
This is hard. But Ezra, I think Ezra feels it

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and is trying. He sees me, he sees me
struggling a little bit and you know, he's just an innocent kid.
But man, every now and again hiseyes open and he looks at me and
then he tries to just give me positive words.
I love you, I love you. And he's like really looking at
me. And lately he's been saying I
funny. That's funny.

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He's got his, you know, working on his.
He is funny, by the way. The last time I babysat him, he
was doing a magic trick with hisnapkin.
Like he was stuffing it down hisshirt and then going ta da,
like, and I'm like, how does this kid know that?
That's funny? Like he's only two.
He was like a little bitty kid in a high chair and he's like

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sneakily stuffing a napkin down his shirt.
And I'm like, where's your napkin?
He's like ta da. And it was hilarious.
Like, it was genuinely funny. Like it, I was it like, aha, I'm
going to laugh because you know how kids like I'm going to tell
you a joke and it's obviously like you, you like to say, oh,
that's real. You know, you try to give them
whatever. But with him I was genuinely
making me laugh because the way he was doing it.

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I funny, you know, do you ever feel like, I mean, we have
these, I don't know, I'm very spiritual.
So these kids come into our lives.
My son, like I said, I would still have been with that person
had it not been to see her through my son's eyes.
And I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I, I could take this, but he, it's not OK for, you know, a
toddler to be in this situation.So he helped me get out of that

(21:14):
relationship. But then he also just came to me
with this funny light. I mean, and I mean that in a way
like he, he, he's funny. And I mean, I, I would see my
reflection in my phone every nowand then.
I'm like, Oh my God, I did not know I was.
I was. I just was so disappointed.
I looked at my face today and was like, Lord Jesus, It was
like a somebody made a mask withtoo much clay on it.

(21:37):
It was just like heavy and sad. I had to put my wig on just to
pull my face back a little bit today.
But you had the scowling and just like, girl, you beat up.
Yeah. Well, it is.
It's so hard. It's a, it's a heaviness like
when you are like, you're like, you're like me.
My, you're so much like me. Your family's at least two

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states away and it's not a matchto live there and you're on your
own. And it is, it's a huge growing
as the growing pains are huge. It's like going from this
playful, whimsical artist into like, Oh my God, I've got to
make a living. And but my son, I taught him
some Monty Python sketches when he was really little.

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And I don't know why the kind ofan over the top British accent
can make me like, it just gives me like we would, you know, I'm
working these 12 hour shifts as a nurse and I'm trying to get
and I, you know, I never go to bed early so I only had slept 4
hours. So I'm crabby, I tried to get
out the door and, you know, he spills his milk or something.
And then he we would just go into like, Oh dear, the milk has

(22:42):
spilt, you know, And it just takes like even the simple
little thing like that of going back and forth because I don't
know. And he all he does always want
to try to make me laugh when I'mreally stressed.
And I interviewed him out here and I was like, you know,
sometimes it's too soon and he goes, but that's when it's best.
But I go, but it's not your job.I would tell him it's not your

(23:04):
job to make me feel better. But it's just his nature.
And I'm guessing that's Ezra's nature.
I watched him. We had we had a doctor's
appointment and we got there early because we had been late
before and missed it. We got there early and then our
doctor was really behind. So we're like in the lobby for
like an hour and he was running around making other babies

(23:25):
laugh. He was just doing like slapstick
stuff, just really engaging withother.
The babies were cracking up. He's working the waiting.
Room my God, like, Oh my God, heso he's always trying to use
some humor. I was just like, great, what are

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you doing? He's got that gift.
He's. He's he's got a gift and he's
paying attention. He's always paying attention.
That's right. And that I know.
And that's another responsibility we have.
It's like, wait a minute, I haveresponsibility to them.
I want to be authentic. Like I don't want to mask
everything because they can feelthat too.
It's so it's almost like it's almost a duty to myself where I

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was like, OK, I've got to try tofind lightness in the middle of
all this heaviness because I was, I mean, I'm just, I just
want you to know I'm with you 100% on how hard it is.
I you know people, if you have not had the responsibility of a
child all to yourself, you do not know and you can't.
You can't I'm sorry for every every person I know that I ever

(24:29):
judged for for their mothering or their parenting.
I mean just as a non parent you can never understand.
You don't understand why we leave the Jelly on the face till
the end of the day. Like I used to judge those moms
at the store. Like God, why does that kid have
stuff all over his face? And then I'm like, I got it.
I was like, no, it's gonna you know, there's gonna be more

(24:51):
before the end of it's gonna be wait till bath, wait till bath
time. There's gonna be.
You know why his clothes are stained?
Because all of his clothes are stained.
They were new at some point and.My son loved cars too.
Your son loves cars. And he would always wear one
knee out his jeans. Like the first day I would buy
him the jeans, the knees are gone.

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So it's like, Yep, I'm doing those patches, the iron on
patches. I just got everything just got
covered and I'm doing more laundry, more laundry because
I'm trying to potty train also, which I, I hate it.
I knew I would hate it. I've always hated it as a nanny,
as a big sister body training isgross.
So there's a lot of run into thebathroom, a lot of me trying to

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dump all the poop in the, you know, out of the underwear and
into the toilet. And see some.
Fell out somewhere and and then somehow in these little pockets.
He loves his pockets right now. I missed half of a crayon.
Oh no, go out in the laundry. On the laundry.
Brand new outfit that I had him in yesterday for Easter eggs.

(25:54):
It's like, well, matches everything else I guess.
Stains on everything I wonder. How you could get that out?
Now I'm all of a sudden like problem solving over.
Here. Nah, it's fine.
I that's one thing I did. Isopropyl.
Yeah. Isopropyl alcohol.
So I don't do any work on clothes.
You know, OK, there, OK, good. Yes, let it go and that's it.
Probably looks a little like tiedye or something.

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I can't let everything go but the clothing.
I try not to buy expensive clothing.
He's growing so fast and he enjoys.
It's getting quite dirty. Yeah.
So it's like, hey, girl, don't get your heart broken.
There was a stain on the shirt before we got out of the car
yesterday. So.
Yeah, I went to go take him out of the car and I was like, what
even is that? My son always just had an

(26:39):
affinity for every mud puddle. Like soon as we got outside he
would belly flop inside. I mean, it is like, oh man.
Big. Well, how does OK, so going
back, if you don't mind with a little trauma to like this is
good though. I mean, I think it's so
important. Like my son, that was another
thing just I thought of about hewould not wear socks.

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I think he has sensitive skin orsomething and he hated socks.
And it took me a while to realize, you know what does No
one's going to arrest me if he'snot wearing socks, I mean.
Not an old black lady's judging you.
Oh. I know for sure because he also
would wear his pants backwards and I let him.
I was just like, Yep, yeah, so. And it was statistically he, it
was more than half the time thathe had those pants on backwards.

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We went to preschool like that. He started a trend.
And then the socks, we just would ball them up and throw
them at each other. And so we were trying to
release. I mean, it was just so hard.
And then I, I made-up some bad song parodies on the way to
preschool, you know, just tryingto get rid of that stress in my
body. But so anything, if you like,

(27:43):
you know, it can help you to play with some of the stress in
a, in a indirect way, like, or, you know, if you see your face
in the mirror, I've been doing weird stuff in the mirror
lately. Like I'm like, I'm worth doing a
show for, you know what I mean? I'm the only one here and I'm
looking at my body, you know, sagging at this age.
So I do little. I do little like funny little

(28:04):
cartoon walk across when I go infront of my mirror, I'm like
tingling and I. Mean I'm.
Worth I'm worth making myself laugh.
I decided I'm like, don't. I don't care.
You know? Like there's a part of me going
if anyone saw me doing this, butwho cares?
It's for me. I could do that.
I Yeah. I, I mean, it cost me nothing.
Just take a moment and make myself laugh.
But it's because that's how I make my living.

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And I really. Somebody asked me hours before
my show on Thursday. I was headlining.
Are you ready? It's like I'm not ready until
they say Janae Burris, till theyget to the S and Burris.
That's and then there's a delay and then I come out.
And then I'll be ready. Yeah, I'm not in.

(28:46):
Yeah. Yeah, you've been doing this.
You don't need to like I. Don't turn it on any earlier.
I'm not funny. I am as quiet as I can be, which
I need to talk more because that's my my kid deserves it.
He he's got his little speech delay that really could be
helped by me talking more, whichmy mom told me.
Ohh no. For years she's been saying you

(29:07):
don't talk enough to him. Oh, is that true?
So your mom, when you grew up, where are where are you in in
your family? You're a big family or a.
Lot of I have four sisters. I'm #2.
You're #2. Two of five.
And then were you shy as a kid? Did you not need?
Yeah, pretty shy. You're pretty.
Introverted or so that's your nature.
Just sit quietly and have lots of thoughts.

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Endless thoughts. Non-stop thoughts.
Oh, do you have obsessive thoughts?
Yeah, they just, the thoughts never turn off.
Well, right now with a kid, you know, it's watching the clock
and thinking about tomorrow's appointments and thinking about
the laundry and thinking about Ineed a sitter and should I go to
that audition And like, so that none of that stopped.
And then as a comedian managing my own career, did I buy that

(29:51):
flight yet? Did I even put that date in my
thing? You know I.
Know that's my biggest fear, that I'll completely forget a
day. And I really, I have, I have, I
have. And it's like I am better about
if they, if it's money, actual money that I can count sometimes
with the little ones, I'm like, OK, I'll put that in my, in my

(30:11):
phone when I get a chance. But with money, I'm like just
mark the day, just at least markthe day and then investigate
later. I have to put at least two
alerts, and then I'm trying to put.
Yeah, but. And then you were even saying
earlier how you'd be on stage and you're thinking about Ezra
because you've got him with a babysitter somewhere.
So I know that feeling, too. It's like they're never out of

(30:33):
our consciousness. Even right now.
You're probably thinking how under, you know, he knows
Stephanie really well. So they get along, but it's
well. You know, it was nice when, you
know, when things were good and we trusted each other and I
could feel like my kid is with his dad and he's fine.
Or even, you know, even more specifically, call them before a
set and know, oh, we're at Lava Island jumping around.

(30:55):
OK, so I got 45 minutes. I'm just going to turn you guys
off and I'm going to do my show and then I'll be right back.
But now you don't feel like you can turn your phone off.
You can't. I can't turn my mind off.
I'm split. I'm on stage just I'm not even
sure if I'm being funny anymore.I'm just my mouth is moving and.
So you're not in your body. I'm not totally in my body right

(31:16):
now. I'm I'm trying to be present
with him and then when I spend all day with him, which I have
been a lot because, you know, like we were saying, you have to
decide is this job worth gettinga sitter and then driving out of
the way and all of that. So a lot of times lately I've
been just staying home and it's been rough.

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But sometimes just as an adult being with a kid all day
non-stop, he like, he's been great about entertaining himself
here, but when it's just he and I, it's not.
He is. He's more physically.
Touching me. I can't even get in the bathroom
by myself. And then if I hear if there's
quiet, then it's actually something is going on.

(31:59):
Oh my God. Great, let's hope all the poops
in one place don't make me look for.
It or find it under under a barefoot.
Stepping in a wet, yeah, I mean,sometimes I'm lucky for that.
I'm like, thank God I didn't have shoes on.
I would have known a step stepped in that I wouldn't know
the carpet was wet right there. So that was actually a plus.
But yeah, 'cause he's just at anage where he's getting into

(32:22):
everything. And if, if I don't stop him, if
I don't physically lock eyes, have eyes on him, he will try to
investigate things on his own. Of course.
Extremely curious, right? Yeah, he's in.
He's he's very, very bright and he's going.
That's good to go along with it.I feel for you.
And there's going to come a solution.
I do believe and we don't know the exact thing yet, but I think

(32:46):
it's possible there's some creative solution.
There's got to be like, I can't help but think and now we're in
this, you know, we do moms unhinged together and other mom
comedians. We should have like a meeting
like everybody do a brainstorming, see what
solutions come. But I was curious about, like,
hearing how shy you are. And honestly, it's, you've

(33:07):
always been, yeah, a little bit shy even, you know, backstage.
I I I was always kind of curious.
Like, I don't know what. I don't know if she's happy,
sad. I can't really read you very
well. You're, you're very still, you
know, your, your, your energy isvery still too.
So how did you find out you werefunny when you're so shy?
When did that happen? I always wanted to be funny as a

(33:32):
skill. I I don't know it, it's partial
low self esteem regarding like, you know, when sometimes just as
a kid, girls do this, boys do whatever.
I'm not pretty enough. Oh, my sister's old Britney,
everybody based on other people saying she was pretty, you know,
her getting attention, but that was her personality too.
She had a lovely personality which I couldn't see.

(33:54):
I was just like, she's prettier than me and I'm, I'm no fun and
I'm not, I'm not pretty. I'm ugly.
And then feeling like she's not that funny.
Wait a second, she's not that funny.
I could be funny. I could I because it felt like I
think to figure out watching cartoons, watching TV shows, you

(34:15):
know, just understanding humor and believing that I was, I did
believe I was smart enough to understand humor and I and I
because I was a person who was in my head all the time.
I could work jokes and work ideas and thoughts in my head.
So you. Start.
And just imagine funny things and.
What were some shows that kind of influenced you as a as a kid

(34:39):
or or actor? What comedic because you're also
an actor. So was it the acting part first
or was it a blending? I I was a kid in South Central
Los Angeles. Even though we were working
class, like my dad owned our house, my mom didn't work.
I got to go to a lot of arts events.
I was in art classes. I got moved to, you know, this
gifted high achieving class which now people are building

(35:03):
like you probably had ADHD and you didn't even know it.
They just stuck you in another class you think told you it was
a gifted class. No, I bet it was.
Well, we didn't really do traditional studies like the
rest of the kids in school. We did a lot of art.
We did a lot of art and talking and people coming by to talk to

(35:23):
us and ballet classes, and we'regoing off for another field trip
to a museum and, you know, tickets for your family to go
see a ballet. And we were always going to
things and seeing art and I justfelt connected.
That's my home. This.
Is this is what I want to be? And I didn't know how, which
part of art I would get into, you know, when I, when they

(35:44):
would read books, I wanted to see my name.
I'm a writer. Oh, OK, I'm a poet.
I could write poems. I'll be a poet, you know, just
all the arts. I was like, OK, I think this is
what this vibe is what I want. I want to be in this all the
time. I don't ever want to go back to
math class. Yeah, I don't want to do PEI,
don't want to play outside. I just want to stay inside and

(36:05):
paint and play music and write stories.
And we worked on a loom. I remember.
Yeah, it was. It was a lot of just creating
stuff all the time, and it felt comfortable.
And so then I used to watch Famea lot, you know, the TV show.
Yes. I wanted to go to an art school.
Yes. That was my big dream.
Go to an art school. But you know, when I was a kid,

(36:26):
it was just you. Watch what comes.
On right. Yeah, perfect strangers was a
thing back then. Wait, what was perfect
strangers? With.
Not. Strangers.
You know the you know the cousin.
I remember strangers with. Candy Bartokolus or whatever.
Anyway, oh, that sounds, Oh yes,that sounds familiar.

(36:46):
OK. Yeah, this is like traditional
sitcom. Like before Modern Family and
Arrested Development style stuff, this was traditional.
I don't know, Tom and bosom buddies.
Bosom buddies, you know, lots oflaugh tracks.
I remember I. Did you watch any like see, I
grew up with Carol Burnett and. And I watched some Carol
Burnett. Lily Tomlin like comedic.

(37:07):
Actors, did you ever watch Mama's Family?
Yes, Mama's family. Yeah, we watched that.
I mean, there, there was lots ofcomedic women.
I watched a lot of I Love Lucy. Oh, yeah.
You know, just women were funny and silly and I thought my dad
might appreciate it. I thought it was, you know, I
can't really do math. I'm not really that.
I tried to play sports and. Yeah, you gotta have your heart

(37:30):
in sports. I never had my heart in it.
It's like I'm fine losing. I was always fine losing.
That's interesting. But I thought maybe comedy was
something he could respect and like, 'cause he laughed a lot
and he joked a. Little.
So that was a way that you couldget his his attention and his
respect. Yeah, watching him and other
adults and how other adults responded to him, I was like,

(37:50):
oh, he's very funny. What I didn't know was he was
charming and he and I butted heads.
I think we might have been similar, but we butted heads a
lot. But out in the world with other
people, people were really charmed by him.
And I kind of like took note andtook notice and I wanted that.
But I don't think he was an introvert.
So that was the part I was missing was.
Yeah, because he was a natural extrovert.

(38:12):
Yeah, my dad. Get over that hump, yeah?
That's a lot, but it's so often comedians are called shy
extroverts. I feel like I fit into that one
because but maybe it's just insecurity and low self esteem
because I'm just like I want to try to get the lay of the land
before I show but you're truly an introvert.
Like you just need that time inside.

(38:34):
A little quiet. I just sit.
I would sit by myself all the time as a kid.
Sit and imagine playing though. Sit and imagine making friends
and imagine what it would be like if I could walk with those
girls and imagine what I would say if they came over to me.
And I would just have scenes in my head and if anybody spoke to

(38:55):
me, I would clam up and just go.Freeze, freeze.
Not speak. A lot of times I just couldn't
speak. So I missed out on friends as a
kid because I would only imaginetalking to them and then if they
talk to me I got a lot of what'swrong with you?
Oh wow. You know what?
We were just talking about Cirque.

(39:16):
I went to Cirque du Soleil todayand you said it.
It was one of your favorite first things.
Yeah, it was like a core memory for me to go.
That was part of being in that elementary school.
I used to get tickets to stuff and we went as a family.
They'd give my family tickets and my dad would take me and my
sister. So we saw Cirque du Soleil and
it just I can still I hear the music.
And well, I just wanted to tell you the theme of today's show.

(39:38):
It's Crystal, but it was about agirl who I who was, you know,
her mom is scolding her. It starts off getting, you know,
you're not doing your homework and she's expressing all this
art and she's got all these ideas.
It sounds so much like who you are.
And it's so cool because then she, well, she ends up kind of
running away. Is this a really intense story

(40:00):
and falling through this ice Andit's all like, it's almost like
a near death experience where her life is flashing before her
eyes. And it was almost like you could
tell she was struggling with whether I want to be on this
earth because I'm so sensitive and I'm I'm an artist and trying
to find her place and being toldthat she doesn't belong.
You know, they showed a lot of scenes at school where she's
kind of by herself. Anyway, just reminded me of it.

(40:22):
Like I thought, oh, this. I leaned over to my son.
I go, I think this is about ADHDand, you know, like
neurodivergent kids. Anyway, I just reminded me of
it, but so then I'm so curious, like when and how?
So you're saying I didn't know how I got exposed to a lot of
art, had this huge internal creative life, but then what

(40:43):
happened? How did?
You, my sister. I've heard my sister say it
before. In middle school, 8th grade, I
made a conscious decision to be funny, to dress better and to be
funny and to just be a little sillier outwardly and make
friends and make jokes with friends.

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And I and I found some friends and we joked a lot.
We, you know, 8th grade, cool kids we're sitting around on,
you know, you find your stoop and we crack jokes at lunch,
meet you at the stoop. And so it was.
It was also based on another thing with my dad.
In his yearbooks, he was class clown.
In several yearbooks, several years, he went to different

(41:27):
Proms. He was most popular.
Yeah, 'cause you know what I've learned with our My Humor class?
We know this already, but it makes, it makes us so
attractive. Like I can't believe some of the
people that I have dated as a tomboy with a lazy eye.
I've had some fun gentleman and lady callers.
I don't want to brag, but I'm like, I, I'm, I'm like.

(41:50):
But it is, I think there is something about being funny is
very attractive. So he he went to several Proms,
'cause he was. So you're charming.
He was charming and likeable andand I think he was short.
Now I'll look back on it. I think my dad was kind of
short, but he would just people liked him and like so much and.
And I just wanted to do that. I wanted to emulate that.

(42:14):
Yeah. But I think I what I didn't
understand is that was his natural personality and how he
was. And so I was trying to be funny
and I just, I was like, I'm justgonna turn it on.
Just here we go. And it worked.
It's something that I say when I'm teaching as well, Like
you're going to have to give yourself permission to be funny,

(42:37):
and you're going to have to say the joke out loud when you're at
the grocery store and you have afunny.
Because as comedians, our brainsnow just work like that.
We think of funny things constantly.
Yeah, especially like when the worst things are happening for
some reason, it's like, oh, that'll be funny.
Like, you know, trying to find the funny and everything.

(42:59):
We find the funny and everything.
People laugh. I think for me, people laugh
when I'm not intending for them to laugh.
It's just a thing. I can't help it.
Yeah. So I think that I started
allowing the thoughts to come out when I was in middle school.
So in a weird way, like almost like fake it till you make it
like prime, prime that, prime that pump.

(43:20):
And then I was thinking with your acting background too, I
don't know if you were already had done some plays by then, had
you? No, OK.
I just thought, you know, they always say female's mask, like
female's mask on the spectrum better and ADHD better.
So a lot of a lot of females don't get diagnosed with stuff.

(43:40):
But also just that idea of like putting it on, like almost like
putting on a character. Like I'm this is my new 8th
grade character. Yeah, at school, my 8th grade.
I mean we all play roles in different.
And I, I think I was funny and have been prepping it in my head
and had funny thoughts and neverinterject it the way that comics
do in a green room. I, I can't do it in real life.

(44:02):
I never, I don't really interject in the green room.
There's too many people going. But in 8th grade it was like OK,
interject. Yeah.
Maybe it's snarky, maybe it's sassy, maybe it's, and that was
also like, I think we talked about this where we, I grew up
religious and, you know, I grew up religious.

(44:24):
And it also really separates youby genders in the religion.
Yep. So we were really taught to be
quiet. Females to be quiet.
And we were, you know, and you're praised for being quiet
in class. Quiet is a good thing.
I never received that praise. I was the class clown, but I

(44:44):
never got that praise. But you know, when you're
talking about being in the greenroom, I have to say I do still
think that women I don't know. And again, not to it's always
this way. You know, I'm sort of non binary
ish a female. I'm a she they, but I never feel
like that. I want to.
It's almost like sparring or something in the green room.

(45:05):
You have to almost fight for your and it.
I don't know, I've never vibed like that in the green room very
well. I never do.
I don't know if it's a female thing or if it's just, I don't
know. I, I think I see it a lot in, in
women in mixed rooms, a lot of times we're outnumbered in, in a
green room, it's going to be, you know, mostly male

(45:27):
identifying folks and. And, and males often don't laugh
even if you have a good line. I've I've felt that before many
times where it's like, oh, therewas one guy, Rodger Rittenhouse,
He was so funny. He's, he's a writer and he's out
in LA But man, he was about one of the only males that would
laugh at me. And I remember just sort of

(45:47):
picking up on that, like, oh, it's they can't or something
won't. I mean, occasionally they will.
I shouldn't say always, but I just felt like, man, I had to
work a lot harder. Yeah, to get a laugh out of it.
And then it kind of felt cringy,like OK, now I'm trying too
hard. Right.
Yeah, I think I never want to beaccused of trying too hard.
That's probably probably my thing is the laid back.

(46:09):
I'm too cool to be trying to getlaughs in this room right now.
And and I tend to just do most of the laughing and the giggling
like Robin on the, you know, Howard Stern.
I'm just giggling back there. Just stay in the room.
But but when there's been a lot of people in the green room, I
don't chime in. It's just too hard to jockey for
position. And I don't think I.

(46:29):
And it's also like what's funny to us is not the same.
Like I was thinking about moms on Hinge shows and there's a
different when we're in the green room, we're more
connecting. I don't know that we're always
trying to make each other laugh.I don't even sense that.
I feel like it's more about liketruly wanting to connect and how
are you doing and what's going on for you.
And you know, there's that, thatenergy too.

(46:49):
Yeah. Trading connection versus ego.
Show up. Like, let me show you.
I'm gonna it's like a mini roastin the green room sometimes.
Yeah, you know, it's a little exhausting for me, but yeah, I I
enjoy the connecting with the ladies of Mom's unhinged.
But but yeah, as a as a kid, I, I made a conscious choice that
to get over the shyness as well.I did.

(47:11):
I didn't love my whole life. You know, like I say, Ezra's
listening all the time. I heard people saying that I was
shy all the time. And then at some point I heard
people saying I was mean. But I was really like, I was
just quiet. Wow, so they perceived they must
have projected stuff onto you. I think when people are quiet,

(47:32):
people project. Yeah, when you're quiet and
people don't know how you feel or when you're not paying
attention to them. Oh yes.
Then you seem as though you're mean or aloof.
Aloof can be interpreted. As it can trigger a little
insecure. And then you just go, I'll go
more into myself then because you people don't understand me.

(47:53):
So it was a lot of that. And just in 8th grade, I wanted
to do what I wanted to do, what my dad had done.
I thought that might impress him.
And then my dad passed when I was like 15.
So there was just a short periodof that sort of personality.
And then a different personalityhappened after he passed away, I
think. I was going to say, I wonder,

(48:14):
you know, we were just talking at the Scrabble table with
Stephanie McHugh and Catherine Shea about kind of spirit
energy. Do you ever this personal
question, but did you ever feel his like his spirit energy
around you or like I was even thinking, here's my OK, that did
he pass his like here you go. I'm going to I'm going to feed
you some lines. Maybe, maybe that would be great

(48:36):
I. Is that too far?
No, no, like when you were saying like your, your aunt
visited your sister. Maybe I was like, oh, that would
be I, I try. I'm wondering if I'm paying
enough attention. I will say like working this
recovery program, part of the program is like you will have a
spiritual awakening And I think I've always been a little bit

(48:56):
tuned in, but now I'm really watching for spirit signs and
they come in different ways. And also just this feeling of, I
don't know, like sometimes it comes with a truth chill, like
if you if I talk about somebody and I feel them their presence
around. Had that yesterday with a new
comic. So who knows.
Yeah, lots of. I used to be more in tune.

(49:18):
I think you have to just be in tune with you have to be be
listening. I think that spirit can be
there. People can want to talk to you.
But I, I, I know when I was a, when I was a teenager, I
specifically said, please don't.Oh, you asked him not to.
Yeah, that's don't you had a boundary and especially you're a
teenager, you're like, you know what?

(49:39):
Don't show up. I'm already scared so just
don't. And I wonder if I probably
should at some point. But like oh I changed.
I feel like I did at some point.I changed my mind.
I'm an adult now. It's fine.
You can visit if you want to. Yeah, yo, you could choose one
like when you're, you know, writing comedy or whenever you
know, like when you need help with Ezra I.
Ask usually I will call on all of my dead relatives when when I

(50:02):
was in this play I was doing a one woman show with Aurora Fox
and it was like 90 minutes of meby myself on stage with no
break. And so it was just like, once
they start the show, it's just Janae and hope she doesn't fuck
up. And I really, I love the
experience. And backstage, I would just
stand in there and I would call on everybody and say, can you

(50:24):
just uplift me through this showand help me.
And I would go into these the play I did 13 characters.
I just. Seen.
This I heard it was fantastic. Me through it.
Dang I'm sorry I missed that. But they helped you.
I think so. Every night I called on all of
them, my grandmothers that I never even met.

(50:46):
I was just like hey, cuz I don'tknow.
I know that when I'm an act, when I'm acting, I am just
several versions of myself. I don't I'm not great with
accent. I'm not Meryl Streep doing
people you won't recognize. Like it's me and it's my mom and
it's probably my grandma. Like it's just I'm all I'm not.
I'm my sister. I'm those are all the characters

(51:08):
that exist. And so I asked the ancestors
that the family come and let me also use you.
Like maybe that character is going to be my grandmother or
maybe something inspiring comes from my dad.
Like can you help me in that show?
And I know I try not to call on them when it's something easy
like I won't I won't you. Don't want to abuse the

(51:29):
privilege. I don't want to abuse the
privilege. Everybody stand down.
I got this. 1. This is just a Dick show Dick
Dick joke show right now, so I got it.
Well, you know, it's funny, I 'cause I feel like I've been
having the sense that I'm channeling muses and I and I'm
starting to feel like I'm channeling some of the muses of
the attendees. You know where it's like my
muses are playing with their muses, 'cause I'm starting to, I

(51:52):
don't know, I'm just starting tofeel this thing between us, like
I'm not. I'm saying it's not about me,
it's not about you, It's about this.
Whatever's between us, I don't understand.
And stand up. Wait, you didn't really say when
you started stand up how you went and did a mic?
Or something I did AI took a class.
I was doing improv and I was really unhappy in improv because
in improv you it, it's up to theeight other players to help, you

(52:13):
know, for us all to be funny. And I was just like, you guys
are not funny. I am funny and you're bringing
me down. And me and another girlfriend,
we went to watch a friend do a ashowcase and we were like, girl,
this, we could do that. And Max Bird, she's still a
comic, too. Now, I took a class because

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that's where I feel comfortable in the, you know, arts classes
where I can ask questions and set goals and expectations.
And I took the one class and I was like, oh, I got it.
I knew I could do this. OK.
And then I just proceeded to do that.
But once I got to Denver, there was so much stand up comedy and
then I didn't really get into theater immediately, so I just

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spent all my time doing stand upcomedy, just getting to be
around comedy and funny people. I got to be around funny people.
All my friends were funny. And it was, it made me want to
be funnier. Yeah, it made me want to be
funnier all the time. So.
It makes a difference when you're hanging out yeah.
With people on a certain vibe. And also just like that's that's

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that's yeah, finding the funny. And that's another thing where
we're going back to like being asingle parent.
It's can be very isolating and II hope you continue to like,
don't be shy, you know, to reachout.
And I don't know, we should create some sort of, I don't
know, like Andrea with moms on Hinge, like a, a spreadsheet of
some sort. Like, you know, I hear Ezra.

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I think he's having a good. Time I did the junkyard mic with
all of those women and they weregreat because I just because it
was only like six or eight of usin the room I totally overshared
I was like you know what's goingon with me right now?
My baby daddy and so. It's a good time to overshare.
And then so it was all out. And then if they had, you know,

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mutual experiences as moms, they, they got it.
And that's what I needed to. It's like, you know, as a if if
I ran into Old Janae as a mom, Old Janae would not get it at
all. Old Janae could not even be a
good friend. I think to a mom, I, I look back
on like my best friend having a kid and just not understanding
her schedule, her fatigue, her change her mind, changing her

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priorities. I just didn't get it.
And so, yeah, so now I need to find my people because they do
understand I feel tight in frontof a regular batch of comics.
Like you guys don't get it? You have no idea.
Hard, it's so hard, but the momsdo do get it.
And I'm I'm thinking too recently about the whole inner

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child thing, healing the inner child and just the idea that you
can. I'm not actively trying to do
that through my child, but thereare some moments with him where
I'm like, Hey, be conscious thatyou could treat yourself better.
So treat your, your inner child better through him.
You know, like I'm right now I'mlocked into like, I didn't

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always feel protected. So I'm trying to protect.
I'm conscious of it. There are moments where I feel,
I wish I, I'm always thinking about how to protect him.
Am I protecting his feelings when another kid is bullying?
I'm like, do I jump in and stop this because I want to protect
him? Do I let him figure this out?
Is this very conscious of that? But it's all connected to myself

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when I was a kid feeling unprotected.
That is such a great teacher to do that for yourself.
And I know you're going to figure this out because I feel
the universe supports it. We're going to find events for
you to host, get into. We're thinking about public
speaking, and I know some pathways for that too.
So keep putting it out there. And someone in my life who is

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happy to hang out with my kid while I do work.
Someone trustworthy who just enjoys this fun dude and who's
within my budget, you know? What do you mean within your
budget? Like you don't support them?
Is that what you mean? No I mean I don't need a partner
I need a a nanny and au pay or. Someone who's like, I thought

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you were manifesting a partner, okay.
I mean, the partner I I, I stillwould like that, I think, I
think. It's hard to imagine right now
when you're tapped out. Yeah, I'm tapped out.
I enjoy relationships. I but I've never been with
anyone since I've had my kid other than his dad.
So I don't even know how I wouldbecause I'm very focused on him.

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So I think if some other adult came into my life, it'd be like,
you'll only be second, we'll always be. 2nd That's the truth.
I got a. Distant second to my child.
I can really love you, Sir, Madam, whoever.
But my child is key. And if you can enjoy him and

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love him as much as I, well, you'll never love him as much as
you can't. Nobody can.
But I would love that for us. I I love being in a little
family. When he was able to be.
I loved that that was our thing.Like we're just going to be, you
know, a family circus and traveland have a little artistic kid.
And now I'm like, oh, God, can'treally do it.

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But yeah, yeah. I wish.
I wish my mom was available in that way.
Yeah. You know, just somebody you
trust very much where you can relax.
I cannot relax when he's with mymom.
I really do relax. Yeah.
When he's with one of my sisters, I really do relax, but
they're all busy gals. Everybody's busy in my family.

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So we'll see if some sister mother type is like, hey.
Yeah. Let's see, I'll hang with you
guys. Let's see what wants to happen.
Well, thanks for taking this time.
And how can people reach you andor how can they see your comedy?
Well, let me tell you, you should not have all of your

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relationships all in one person.My my partner, my baby daddy was
also my website guy. He was my merge guy.
So you can still find me on Instagram because I've run that
by myself. My Instagram still works.
Website going to get that back up.
But Instagram and my website, I got to get back up because I am

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putting dates moms on Hinge. I'm doing a lot of those.
I'll be at Loonies in June. Check out their website
headlining in June. But also that's.
Loonies in Colorado Springs. Yeah, so that'll be down the
line. But you know, moms unhinged
stuff I got. I'm think I'm doing loonies with
moms on Hinge too, but I'll be headlining in June.
And we're both doing the Mother's Day show.

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Mother's Day, Where are we but negative Negro on Instagram?
Find me, message me, and sometimes I will tell you where
I'm going to be. You host Film on the Rock.
So this will be my third season at Film on the Rocks.
And then for the Willy Wonka show, I'll be doing stand up
comedy for that one. So maybe this will be out in
time for that. For Film on the Rocks, the movie

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will be Willy Wonka. That's the one.
I'm gonna do a set. You're gonna do a set, so you're
hosting all of them. But on.
That one you'll do a set. Yeah, 'cause as the host, as the
event host, I really just read announcements.
Yeah, and read names, but I'll do some comedy.
Oh, it is so special to get to do comedy at Film on the Rocks
in front of 6000 people. Come see Janae Burris at Film on

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the Rocks this summer and also find her negative Negro.
Negative Negro on Instagram. I feel uncomfortable saying
that. Can I be honest as a as a white
girl? I don't feel like I'm supposed
to. Say I don't know why.
I've heard a few people say it and I'm like, I don't know AM.
I going to get cancelled you. Not if you pronounce it
correctly, but. I am pronouncing it correctly.

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I've been watching a ton of Muhammad Ali.
I don't know if you've watched any of his.
It's back in the 60s. Like we don't say Negro anymore,
you know, and. Yeah, it's just an antiquated
term and, and I prefer people not say it like Janae is a
Negro. Like, don't say that.
It's just my handle. It's just my handle.
It's not my nickname or anything.
It's just my handle. OK?

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It's just an alliteration. I like alliteration.
Yeah, Nancy Norton does too. See.
All right. Thanks, Janae.
Thank you. I want to thank my guest Janae
Burris. You can find her on Instagram
and I think you can just put in Janae Burris.
I'm not, I don't know. Now that she's not here, I don't

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feel like I can say her handle as a white woman.
So go to Instagram, put in JanaeJANAEBURRIS, Janae Burris, and
I'm sure her handle will turn upand hire her as an event host,
as a headlining comedian, as an actor, and also if you know a

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really good, vetted, trustworthybabysitter who's a lot of fun.
I want somebody a lot of fun forEzra.
He likes to have a good time. So somebody playful, reliable,
let's manifest, let's manifest. I want to thank my son Nathaniel
Norton for the music for traumedy and I want to thank
you, the listener for being on this Co healing journey.

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All right, I'm Nancy Norton. Thanks for listening, TuneIn.
Again. Hopefully next week.
Actually, I may take a break next week because of Nurses Week
and I'm traveling almost every day for the next two weeks, so I
may take a break just this week.All right, no matter what, keep

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laughing.