August 26, 2025 • 62 mins
S3 E28 - Comic Mitch Jones - Hot Pockets
Mitch shares his hilarious bit about Hot Pockets and openly shares vulnerable struggles and how being ghosted by a date in College helped put him on his path to being a comedian. Nancy tries a little Tromedy to help Mitch find peace with all the "What ifs" in his life?
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Do you struggle with What ifs? https://psychcentral.com/anxiety/ways-to-stop-a-worry-filled-what-if-cycle#managing-anxiety
Overwhelmed with regret?
https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-cope-with-regret-5218665
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You're listening to Trauma D, the podcast that helps you take
your pain and. Play with it.
I'm Nancy Norton. I am a comedian, a former nurse,
keynote speaker about the power of humor, and I love doing this
podcast to help people who may feel isolated with trauma or
have been going through stuff. And we bring on experts in
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trauma and recovery. Trauma D is not a replacement
for trauma therapy, but it will help you get by between
sessions. And then I love interviewing
comedians. And this week is.
One of my. Favourites.
He is a Denver favorite. Everybody I've talked to this
week is like, oh. I love that guy.
And yet he has a lack of confidence off stage and so I
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just want to commend him for coming on being so vulnerable.
I have so much confidence on stage, but then you talk to me
outside, I'm like, sorry for breathing.
We recorded this episode before he won his round of a contest at
the Denver Comedy Works. He is going on to the finals of
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the New Faces competition, whichis like 150 people.
It goes on for weeks and to get to the finals is quite an
accomplishment. And you can cheer him on
September 17th along with some other comedians, but cheer on
Mitch Jones. Everybody loves Mitch and I.
I just wanted to say that so youcould go to Instagram at Comic
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come out to Comedy Works in Denver September 17th.
Cheer on Mitch in the Finals, a special event coming up
September 5th at the Bug Theatre.
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I'm very concerned about some ofthe cuts to medical research and
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So we got to stick together, figure out ways we can help each
other out, do some philanthropy,come together with like minds.
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It's going to be a blast at the Bug Theatre, September 5th,
Denver, come out to see Headstrong and laugh with us,
learn, take action. All right, let's get on with the
episode. You're listening to Dramedy, the
podcast that lets you take your pain and play with it, and now
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your host, Nancy Norton. I love it.
We should just start. Welcome to traumedy.
My guest this week is a comedianand actor and a wonderful
person. Please welcome Mitch Jones.
Hey, thanks for having me, Nancy.
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I appreciate it. Thank you.
I love your setup here. I love the purple and green
mics. Yeah, I know that.
Where's that pink? I think, well, I like to think
it's in the purple vein, you know, vein it all sounds like
purple vein sounds something like that we're getting.
Into the vein so. We're getting into the judge way
too early. Yeah.
But yes, I do have a thing for purple, as you saw with my
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purple furniture, my purple door.
Purple desktop. Purple knobs.
Purple knob, Hey. Thank you for coming and you
work here in Boulder and and happened to be in the
neighborhood and I I ran into itthe Denver comedy underground.
I love that place. And I do, too.
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It's, I'm so excited. Ben Bryant.
I've. I've been trying to get Ben
Bryant to visit with me, which he will someday, but it's so
cool that it's comedian owned and operated.
I love it. Denver Comedy Underground.
Everybody should check it out. Yeah, and we were having a good
time and I just what I mean, every time I see you, it kind of
lightens my mood. So I want to thank you for that.
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I just think you're. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm happy to be of service and
that May I'm a service animal. I'm a service beast.
Well, I just think that you carry, there's a lightness
around you. And I, I told several.
I was saying I even told you this in the kitchen, but I told
you like, I talked to several comedians.
I'm like, I'm going to interviewMitch Jones and like, oh, tell
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him hi. I love that guy.
You know, like ever. It's just it must feel good to
know you're very loved in the community.
I yes, I, I, I don't know, maybethis is my drama coming out, but
sometimes it's just like, am I supposed to feel shame or I like
being like, everybody likes to be like that's.
So shame is a friend is a friendof yours.
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Sure. Yeah, I grew up raised Catholic,
so that's like right then and there.
That's that's part of it. That's part of the Catholic
experience. Oh yeah.
From the How early do you remember feeling like I should
feel bad about something? I think that's the whole like
sin of sin of pride is not the like you're not supposed to feel
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pride in your accomplishments orwhatever.
Yeah, I think that even Lutherans, we did, we weren't
allowed, at least in my family, to not not.
You couldn't say something you're proud of about yourself
without feeling like you're going to get taken down.
Like, I don't know, I, I, I carry that a lot.
Or I'm like, if I do a set and like everything goes good, but I
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flub one word, I'm like, well, that was a complete disaster.
I need to go home and reassess my comedy.
Wow. So in a way that court, you
know, and some people might say there's some, I don't know, they
use the term toxic shame. You know, if there's like a core
belief that we got to find the thing that affirms that I'm a
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bad person. Like I'm, I'm, I'm kind of one
of those people that's always looking for that too.
I, I came out of a long meeting.Now mine was worse than flubbing
one word. I did call this woman on the
committee a bitch. Whoa.
In the meeting I may. Not be asking.
That's in the official minutes of that meeting.
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At 12:45, Miss Norton calls so and so a bitch.
It was a it was a bunch of Boulder pastors.
No way. So they were really not vibing
with that. I go spend an hour with them
kind of telling them and showingthem my my muses.
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And then this woman goes, well, I don't know, this is a match.
I, I, I don't know if I've seen an, or know her comedy.
And I was like, hey, bitch, you know, And I kind of did it in a
mocking way. Right.
Like, in a way that comedians would say to, you know,
colloquially call each other bitch.
Yeah, but I was like, I would. We'll see.
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We'll see if I get that gig. I definitely came out of that
meeting with just. That's all that I remember from
it. So but that's a pretty harsh,
that's a pretty harsh one word, but you're just the saying, Oh,
I stumbled like maybe I stammered on something or
whatever. Didn't end the bit the way I
usually. Do right, I always like or you
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know, like a comedy works where I was doing a host set and they
give you 10 minutes and I was like, well, that light, I didn't
see the light. The light has to have come and
gone by now. I've like, I don't know what it
is, but like especially with at comedy works where you see the
clock and I'm like, OK, it is 7:15.
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I know that 715 + 10 is 725. And then I step out there, hey
everybody, how's it going tonight?
And I talk for a couple minutes and I'm like, oh shit, what?
How long is 10 minutes? And then I'm like, OK, now it's
7/25. I need to get off stage and that
light has to have gone and, you know, come and gone by now.
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But I end my set. And then I was just like, the
the dude that weren't was running the light that night.
I was like, I'm so sorry, did I miss the light?
He goes, no, you actually went two minutes short.
And so from then and there, I was just like, you know, I had
to, I like a quarterback that lost a big game.
I had to like later that night, throw my arm up on the wall in
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the shower and just think about that.
Oh. Wow.
And that's a sign of also, well,it comedy works specifically, it
is such a, let's just say a buyer's market.
You know, there's just so many comedians that want to be on the
comedy works stage and it kind of creates a sense of scarcity
and fear and like, Oh my gosh, And that is one of the main
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things in comedy is like, be on time or whatever.
Don't run the line, don't run the line.
Hey, better short than long, right?
But but it is a weird. I've had that feeling too there.
I've had it a couple times whereit's like, wait, did I miss it?
And I'd rather I like like it. Denver comedy underground.
I love that clock and I love that I can time the whole thing
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too, where it's like, yeah, and it goes up, right?
It counts up. Yes, I think.
It counts up. I wish it, I wish it counted
down, but that's just me becausesometimes I'm like, what am I
doing? Oh yeah, 10 minutes.
I don't like to have to rememberanything, right?
Because when you're in the zone,frontal lobe kind of goes
offline, so. Exactly.
You're you're total lizard brain.
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You're like, I got to say the the funny things I need.
I need the laughs. But like that night we were
there, I was kind of running a little late, but I was like, OK,
I got to cut this chunk out so that I can make it on time and
get off stage and not run my time.
So I appreciate a a clock that counts up or down, whatever.
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The ones that are just the clock, you know, I'm so bad.
A thing about me is I'm really bad at telling analog time.
I can do it, but I prefer a digital clock.
You're young enough that you didn't grow up with analog
clocks. I did though.
I was born in 1987. Oh, so there were analog clocks?
Yeah, in 87. Yeah, there was I.
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Can't remember when most clocks went digital.
But growing up, we had this big analog clock in the living room
at our house. And whenever my mom would be
like, what time is it? I would, instead of looking at
the giant clock, I would go to look at the stove because it had
a digital clock. And so that was a point of like
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contention where it's just like,can you not tell analog time?
And I was like, no. Do you think you have a dyslexia
thing? I don't think so.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know, maybe I've
never been diagnosed as such. That's OK.
We don't need to diagnose you today.
It's all right. Where are the cameras?
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Well, I was really enjoying yourbit about the Hot Pockets, and I
don't know why I like. OK, first I want, by the way.
Yeah, I love it. I love that bit.
It's so real. And it's so.
And I love that it's a chunk now, like it's a nice long bit.
Like you've invested in it. And they say that in comedy, you
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know, once you break a subject, might as well flush it out as
far as you can, you know? Yeah.
That's my whole like I was inspired growing up by, well,
not growing up, but like when I first started getting into
comedy, I saw Ben Roy pretty early on and he on his first
album he's he's like I'm a bit of a long like the he opens the
album by being like, I'm a long form comic.
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And a lot of comedians, you know, they always tell you when
they're about to get off stage by saying they're wrapping it
up. But I'm a long form comic, so
I'm going to get out of here on this one.
And. That's like the first.
Thing that he said and I was like I want to do long form
jokes I like that so I started that bit at 51st jokes this year
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and it was a 2 minute chunk and now my whole my I've kind of
become the I got to and I joke and say yeah I'm the king of
taking a two-minute premise and stretching it into a 7 minute
bit or whatever but that Hot HotPocket chunk has been my baby
this year yeah. I like it so fun.
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And then I, I read I OK, so whenyou go to the Denver comedy
underground, it's free pizza andthe comedians can have pizza as
well. And I've been trying to eat
gluten free and vegan. So I brought my own gluten free
vegan pizza to put in the oven and, and then I, I, I wanted to
share it with people and I'm just Donna, I'm just kidding.
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Man, I. Know though, well, because I
cheat, that's my problem is I have no willpower, especially if
I drink. So if I go there and I have a
Kentucky mule, after that mule, I'm like, who's it going to
hurt? If I eat one cheese slice of
cheese and it hurts me, it does kind of hurt my soul.
I can't explain it. I mean, I can it's I really feel
it's wrong to exploit and enslave animals and kill them.
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I really feel it's wrong, but I also love a cheese pizza.
So yes, I took care of myself. I asked in advance like, Hey, is
it OK if I bring that? And I'm happy to share it with
an audience member too, if somebody else is gluten free or
vegan. But anyway, I, I offered you a
piece of it and then I got a laugh because you, when I
offered you another, the anotherpiece, you're like, no, no, I'm
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full. And you patted.
You patted your stomach, and then you went and got a hot dog.
I didn't ask for a hot dog. Lily was like, to be fair, I, I
know what the optics of that looked like.
I was like, I don't want your gluten free pizza, Nancy.
I. Don't know but I wouldn't blame
you because it is like hey it's not for everyone And then I and
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then invited you over for some vegan hot pot.
I tried to get vegan. Hot Pot pre podcast pizza
pockets say that five times fast.
Vegan pizza. Pockets vegan peanza.
I can't even do it but. Vegan pizza pockets?
Let's try. Vegan pizza pockets.
I can't do it. You know why 'cause your soul
does not want that exactly. But.
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But, you know, right after that,like, I didn't mind it, you
know, I'm not I, I just told you, I'm not gonna shy away from
broadening my horizons. It was.
It was what? Yeah, it was a vegan piece of
pizza. The cheese stuck to my teeth a
little more like you said it would.
I promise, Yeah, I do. I do.
I do a warning. Yeah, but then Lily was like,
hey, we have a bunch of extra hot dogs, do you want 1?
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And I was like, well, if you gotan extra hot dog, I'll haul it
away maybe. I like that you went from
Catholic to kind of a New York Jewish.
I don't know. I don't know if that one I'm
not. Haul it away, maybe?
Yeah, I'll haul it away. Maybe.
Or who is that maybe? Was that an Italian?
What is that accent? I don't.
It's, I guess it's a little bit of a kind of like if you got an
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extra 1, I'll haul it away, maybe for the sake of not
getting me in trouble. It was Italian.
Yeah, yeah. Because you're Italian, you can
say, right? OK, I know it's interesting.
Now we can't do accents even if they're like somebody like I
used to close with my Chinese landlady who literally I was
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not. It was not a statement about all
Chinese people, but I have learned it's insensitive.
However, Florence Tien was my landlady and it was an amazing.
I got, I don't want to brag, butit was a very good impression
and it was exactly what she saidto me, which is you don't need a
garbage disposal. You just eat your food.
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Imagine it with a great accent. Then I would say she's from
Arkansas. I don't know why she talks like
that, so I know. I don't think I've ever heard
you do that. Well, you missed it.
I missed it. That was.
I'm not allowed now. Nope, not allowed.
So when we talk on trauma D and we were talking before, it's not
necessarily that has to be like some big trauma, but just how
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humor has helped you cope in your life in general.
Like have you like you said, yougrew up Catholic?
That's there's one that a lot ofpeople call that religious
trauma in my recovery work. Yeah.
Then there's you grew up in a big Italian family or small.
Well, I mean, yes, I have a lot of cousins, but I only have one
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sister. OK, so you're not in a, you
weren't like in a huge family where you had to fight for
attention with, were you? Were you funny as a kid?
Of course, yeah, I I was the first son, first grandson, first
nephew. So I'm the golden child.
Oh, that's why you're so comfortable.
Yeah, my sister hates it. I'm sure she but but she also
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had the first grandkid. So my niece is now the golden
child, which I love it. She, my niece, is my little
buddy and she, she's going to bea little comedian.
She's going to be 10 times funnier than I could ever hope
to be. How old is she?
She's 6 now. Oh, that is a fun age and she's
just a got. She's witty and always just has
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that funny take on things. She is, yeah.
I got this for one for Christmas.
I got her a little puppet, a little Yeti puppet of
Macguckin's over here. And so if she's not like I'll
play the Yeti and I'll interact with her with it.
But then sometimes she'll just do it herself.
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And like I have little videos ofher doing little skits as the
Yeti and I'm like, oh God, she'sa little clown.
My mom's like she's more like you than she is than Nicola, my
sister. Oh wow, like.
Oh, don't say that then she'll get pissed.
My sister will be pissed. She already felt like the
invisible child. Now she's the invisible mom.
Right, I don't want her to feel that way.
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No, you don't. It's her time now she has the
golden baby. Yeah, she's the mom of the
golden baby. She has her own purpose.
It doesn't have to just be birthing the golden child.
That's true, that's true. That's I didn't mean to diminish
her to that. Does she have more than one
child? No, she's no, but she's the
successful kid. She is a teacher.
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She has a great little kid. I'm the one that's like, mom,
I'm going to do Dick jokes. I'm not going to use my college
degree at all and I'm going to go so.
What is your college degree? In IT is journalism centering on
mass telecommunications, with a minor in film.
Oh, really? So in a way.
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You are. I mean, you're doing media.
We're doing telecommunications right now.
We're doing it, Ma. Yeah, we're doing it.
We're doing it, Ma has. She passed on.
No. Oh, because the way you gestured
to the ceiling, I was working. No, you're just doing a fist.
You hear that, Ma He? Pointed to the floor.
No, no, Ma. She's is she here in Colorado?
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Oh no. Way my whole family is like with
the exception of a few cousins that moved.
I have like my whole like extended families tri-county
area. Oh really?
Where? Wait, where?
Where were you raised? I was born in Boulder, Boulder
Community Hospital here. Did I know this?
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I don't know, maybe. I had no idea you were a natural
Boulderite. I.
Was a natural Boulderite, raisedin Louisville, lived in Greeley
for about 10 years and then Greeley is what messed me up and
made me into a comedian. Really.
Did you go down to the Greeley? The Underground.
The the down under. The down under, that's what it
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was called. The down under behind the
target. Yeah, all you No wonder it
didn't work out. All you had to do was go behind
King Soopers, go underneath the loading dock from Joann's
Fabrics, then go down to the nonADA compliant stairway through
the brick hallway into the comedy club.
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I, I worked there for years and every time I would get lost on
my way to find that room. I really did.
I remember there was a car dealership and I don't know, but
I played that room. It was a good room it.
Was a great. Room.
I played it back when they're still smoking in there.
Oh yeah, it was just a great. With those low ceilings, can you
could you even stand up in? There, Yeah.
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Oh yeah. Because it had those nice low
ceilings and then it had that cool mural on the back wall like
Janis Joplin and a butterfly. I can't remember everything on
the background, but that I played that room a lot back in
the 90s and then maybe in the 2000.
When So? What year did you start then?
2010. 2010. Yeah, so when Josh and Danielle
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reopened it, they were great. And they they liked me.
So I got to like, one of my biggest faux pas ever is I went
down there to see there was a headliner on stage finishing up
their act. And they liked me so much,
they're like, you should go up and do some time after the
headliner. And I didn't know better.
So I was like, yeah, of course. It's humbling, isn't it?
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I looking back, I was like, whatthe was I thinking I shouldn't
have done that. But we don't know when we are
starting out that that's just I've, I think there's been a
time where I've done something similar at one point where it
seemed like I could do that. So that's where you started
comedy? That's where I started because I
I was always like a funny kid growing up.
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I played sports a lot and like during like banquets.
My coach in high school was like, Mitch is always so funny.
He's got the same and this is like wild to me that this was
his equivalency, but he's like his he always reminds me of Bob
Newhart. I was like, what?
Well, you do have a button down shirt on.
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That's true. That's true.
The button down mind of Bob Newhart.
Yeah, there you go. But like he was like he his the
way he acts and his his humor reminds me of Bob Newhart.
And I was like, wow, I don't seeit, but I will take that as the
highest form of. Compliment.
That's a great compliment, but you know, I can kind of see it
because there's something very natural about you that it's it's
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just who you are and there isn'tlike I have to sell and I I kind
of drop into this caricature of myself that's like a little
Ozarky, a little like more aggressive, a little higher
energy. You know, like I amp it up and
then I also try to throw my energy to the back wall.
But then you're like, hey, you just kind of are.
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You just show up and you just are yourself talking stories.
My my stage persona is just me turned up to 11.
Oh really? So you do feel like you turn it,
You do turn it up because you are so laid back.
I'm laid back. Yeah, laid back.
But even when you turn it up, itjust, it doesn't feel like
you're pushing it. It just feels like, I mean,
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clearly that microphone lights and everything, but it's like, I
don't know, it just feels very organic.
Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
I I don't know. I, I like to perform.
I played sports so much. And then I had a friend who we
grew up together. We, we were like, we want to be
stand ups. We want to like get in, we want
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to write our own show and have like a sitcom kind of thing.
And that never really came to fruition.
I took my last semester of high school, I took an intro to
theater class and then I was like, oh, I like performing.
But then I'm not the best at remembering my lines, you know,
like, so stand up is kind of like the most refined form of
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that. Like I know what I want to say
and I don't have to rely on anyone else to say that.
But I didn't know that I wanted to do stand up because like,
see, I graduated in 2005 and then I didn't start doing stand
up until 2010. I and I was trying to mind
myself. I was like, what are some
traumatic moments that I could to and I had this recovered
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memory of this time where I wentto go see.
So I I wanted to go see Brian Regan at the Union Colony Civic
Center in Greeley. I had his album, thought it was
hilarious. It was one of those albums that
like my folks also liked becausehe's a clean comic.
So I was like, I want to see Brian Regan when he comes.
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And I was in an acting class in college.
I asked this gal to go as like adate and she said yes.
And I bought the tickets and then the day of the show came
and she didn't answer her phone,didn't answer any texts.
I called like a million times and I could have asked any one
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of my NUM numerous friends, but I was so defeated.
I was just like, no, I'm just going to go alone.
And I hope I don't see anybody Iknow there.
Turns out I did. I saw my friend Nick and all of
his friends. But like, I think that's kind of
what made me be like, hey, this is making me feel better.
I want. I want to do stand up.
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Wow. Oh, so it was happened to be
going to a comedy show and then to have this person ghost you
like that and then you're feeling and that but you but you
got through it. You saw your buddies there.
Yeah, I saw my friends and they were like, who are you here
with? And I was like, no one.
I had to explain. The whole thing was like, yeah,
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she didn't answer a phone, didn't and didn't answer any
texts. I never got to be like, hey,
bitch, answer the phone or I'll kill you.
Like I didn't, I didn't get to that level.
I'm not like an incel like that.But it was definitely just like
a hey, I don't know if you remember, but we said we were
going to go to this tonight. But hope, you know, I hope
everything's OK. And then of course, you know,
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the next time I saw her in class, like, Oh yeah, you know,
I didn't, I left my phone at home and I was out studying or
whatever, like. Some lame excuse who?
Cares, it doesn't matter becauseit led me to my path.
That's right. And it was all meant to be.
God had a plan. Yes, I do believe.
That we're on a mission from Godand.
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We are actually, I do think thatI do think humor is a higher
power language. Like I do believe in a higher
power. I mean, I do.
I do think it's part of like my sole purpose is to help, you
know, actually that's the whole mission of the podcast.
Help heal myself and others withwith with trauma D, you know,
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taking some tough things and it's been in it and but I do
believe in fate sometimes. Like I think that really did
light a fire in you. It's not, it's not a mistake,
but it's still like, OK, I'm going to, I'm going to tough it
out. And then, you know, Oh my gosh,
before you knew it, you felt better.
You're laughing. You're not, you're in the
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moment. That's the other thing I love
about comedy. It's in the moment.
Like if if you're on the ride with a comedian, it's you're
right there. You're not thinking about the
past or the future, right? It's kind of cool.
Yeah. I mean, that led me to my path,
but it also opened me up to be like, why did that happen?
Am I just fundamentally unlovable?
Is that what's going on there? I don't know.
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Clearly we've already covered that's not true because
everybody loves you that I know.But for you to even say that I
know there's a part of you that has that script of like, I mean,
we all I'm going to say I'll speak for myself.
I definitely can find that script in me that's like I'm
unlovable. And then like sometimes feeling
like, oh, we have to do a good show to love ourselves.
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And it's like, you know, the keyI think is like, can I love
myself when I have called someone a bitch out of a
meeting? Right.
Yeah. I love myself even when I mess
up. Yeah, of course.
I mean, I, I always love myself,but there's definitely a,
there's a, a phrase that's been running through my head because
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I've had a lot of unsuccessful relationships where I'm like,
everybody loves me, but nobody'sin love with me.
That's and that makes me super sad.
Yeah. I don't know if I've ever had
reciprocal romantic love. Wow.
Yeah, I want to change that. I know.
Let's put that out to the lovinguniverse.
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Right, I'm a cancer. I like not hikes and.
I like, I like what would what would be like?
I, I, you know, I've been thinking about this for myself
lately and I'm getting to this age where it's kind of like that
ship has sailed. I, I mean, but I'm like a young
man like yourself. How young.
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Thank you very much. I'm almost 40.
But that's young. That's so you'll you'll realize
later how how young that is. OK.
It's a wonderful time. You you're you're already like
the 20s are too young because you're still forming, you know,
I mean, I got married when I was20 and and my ex-husband and I,
it ran its course. I mean, we put each other
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through college. We're still friends.
But it was like, you're changed too much, you know, by the time
we got to 30, it's like we're different people now.
Yeah. Start with a new one.
That's how because you came up in like the 70s and 80s, Yeah.
So like, that's how it used to happen.
People got married early. Like my folks got married when
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my mom was 22, my dad was 21 andthey had me when I was when my
mom was 23, when she had me. So I have a relative, you know,
that's what people did back then.
But you, sorry, comedy at 23, itsounds like, if I'm doing the
math correctly, five years afterhigh school.
And I was just thinking, you married, you married your
career, you know, like that. That's a big commitment.
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Yeah, comedy's a big commitment.Sure is.
And when you say career, I just want everyone to know she's
saying it. Definitely.
And this is my self hatred coming in.
It's quote UN quote career because I definitely have a day
job. I don't have a career in comedy.
Well then, how should we reframeit?
It's my blessing and my curse. Yeah, your blessing and your
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curse. You're you're compelled.
My compulsion. Your compulsion is that.
Yeah, your compulsion is comedy.I get that.
I, I, I, I definitely have that.I I really could not not do it.
I can't go back. I mean, I thought for sure, like
when the pandemic happened, I was like really burnt out
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because I when I started, I was just like, and I didn't know
that comedy is a marathon. It's not a Sprint.
For some people it might. But when I was, I was 23 and I
was starting out in Greeley and I was like, OK, if I'm not super
famous by the time I'm 30, I'm going to quit.
And then I got to be 30 years old in the blink of an eye.
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And I was like, well, if I don'tmake it by the time I'm 10 years
in, I'm going to quit. And then I was.
Now here I am 15 years in like, well shit.
All I was going to say obviouslyI'm I just got on Medicare.
So I'm I'm about to turn 65 and you know what, what I thought
comedy, like at the beginning, we have different ideas of what
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it is for us. Like at the beginning you have
different models like having a sitcom.
I wrote a pilot, The Nancy TylerNorton Show, which was kind of
the Mary Tyler the Lesbian Mary Tyler Moore Show with my friend
George McClure back in the 90s. I love George I.
Do too and so we wrote this whole thing and we had Chinese
landlady that was hilarious but that never so then Ellen did the
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thing and I'm like well I don't really need they don't need to
meet the lesbian next door. Now I'm no longer lesbian
identified, but also I think I started stand up.
Well, first of all, you're just kind of excited to like find out
you can be funny on stage, you know, and like you said, you,
you come from sports background.So you're, you are used to
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performing under pressure. Performing under pressure, but
it's a lot of team. Like you'd think I'd be more
suited for improv, but there's whatever is broken inside me.
I'd have to be like, I can't do improv because I have to be the
one that's like, I say the funnythings.
Yes, I got to be the the the funniest.
Yeah, and I know they don't likethat in improv.
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If if you're not like yielding and give you know, like setting
like with volleyball, let them spike it.
No, I will spike you set. Maybe if I started improv first
and learned and then went to stand up that'd be fine, but
like. Or if you had a really good,
like, who was, who was I interviewing?
Oh, Janae Burris was saying she started with improv, but then
they just weren't funny enough. So she's like, you know, it
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frustrated her to do it. But before we go farther, I
wanted to ask, what kind of sports did you play?
Football. I played football and baseball.
How tall are you, I? AM 60 I'm I'm probably
compressed now but at my tallestI was 6/6.
Wow, 6/6. One of my biggest regrets is
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stopping playing baseball. I love baseball so much more.
And they somehow they talked youinto football.
Well, 'cause I came up in the time when it's like, remember
the Titans came out and that's when every football coach in
America was like, football is like the Army.
We have to be training at every given moment and we have to be
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ready for anything that can happen.
And so you couldn't. You couldn't do both.
I could have, but I it was like,it was very kind of like
secretly acknowledged that the coach didn't like multi sport
athletes. And then I had a couple of
friends that were like they wereon the baseball team, but
they're like, you probably wouldn't like baseball.
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There's a lot of running. And I was like, I like, of
course there's a lot of running in football too.
Why did I let them dissuade me like that?
Yeah. I don't know, there's something
that I think whenever we acquiesce and I get, I kind of
get mad at myself, you know? I mean, like if I let somebody
talk me out of something that I knew was right, maybe that's
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also part of your comedy thing. Or it's like nobody's going to
do that again, you know? So this is your thing.
And I all I was going to say about this arc of comedy and it
is like we have these qualifiers.
Like what does it mean to make it Like that's it.
I think it meant. What did it mean to you?
Like having the Netflix special,everybody knowing your name
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famous. Is that making it or was it?
Was there something specific that you had in your mind?
I guess that's making it. Yeah, I wanted.
I like, I want to. I've only been on one tour and
it was up to the Pacific Northwest.
I want to tour, I want to play clubs.
Man, you, you, you should be doing that.
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You could be doing that. I.
I there's something you're. So funny and you're, I mean, and
one of the biggest things in comedy is being likable.
You're so likable and lovable onstage and funny and you deliver.
I've never done been on a show with you that you didn't
deliver. So it's, it's kind of wild to
me, but maybe it's just a beliefsystem or something that you
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don't believe you can. I am terrified of.
So I don't do really good crowd work.
You know, you're really good at talking to people on stage.
I don't have that. That's not a tool that I have in
my tool belt. So if someone talks and also I
kind of fucked up my hearing by listening to loud music in my
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20s. So I, it's not a good show.
I'm like, what? What?
What did you say, you know? And, and so well right now, just
because of Instagram and all that, that there's so much crowd
work. I hate it.
You know, and it's not necessary.
I don't think you have to be a crowd work comedian and I think
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you can absolutely tell club owners, 'cause I think, and to
me this is and I know it's like,again, a buyer's market.
But if you go into any, especially clubs where people
know and love you and say shut down any hecklers for me, I
don't like that you have honed bits that are great, that you
don't need, that you don't have to do that.
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Yeah, I, I know, but I, I don't know.
And if this is like a, it's thisa fear that's holding me back
where someone heckles or whatever and I don't, I'm not
because I'm, I got that Italian temper.
So I'm just like, shut the fuck up or I'll kill you.
I would love to see this. I don't want someone who's like.
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We want to see that side of you in a weird way.
Or maybe not. Maybe we don't want to see.
I don't know. You don't want to, you don't
want to. That won't go back in the box.
But like, you know, in this day and age, you never know if
someone's going to come out of the crowd and punch you in the
face, shoot you with a gun or whatever.
Like, I don't know what's going to happen.
And I one of my biggest fears with comedy is all right, So
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what if I'm not? Like, what if I'm just Colorado
funny and it doesn't translate out into all these other places?
And then furthermore, what if I asked someone to vouch for me
and this person vouches for me? And then I go out and I do the
thing and I eat shit real hard. And I not only ruin my own
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reputation, but I also ruin the reputation of the person that
vouched for me. That's a lot of pressure that's
on you. I don't know why I have.
Yeah, so this maybe the whole reason we're doing trauma D
today is to work through this block because I mean, we I feel
like we need to do an intervention.
Like we need to get a bunch of comedians who all know and love
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you and are like, no dude, you're good and you're and I
would vouch for you. Anyone would vouch for you.
And if and if you had an off night, So what I if that ruins a
reputation with me with a club, forget that club.
I mean, they, you know, they, it's not going to happen.
It might. No.
Maybe it stems from all these abandonment issues with my
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relationships where it's just like everybody's got to love me
and if they don't then I feel like I have failed.
But see, that's back to what we were talking about earlier with
the anxious attachment style. Like it feels like we might die
if people don't like us. I do feel like that's, I don't
know if it goes back to the crib, you know, when we were
infants because the trauma work I've done, and I'm not saying
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this is you. I'm just saying for me, it's
like there's some part of me that feels like if, if, if I'm
not liked, I will, I will die. That's and that is that
abandonment. You know, in my recovery
program, it is like we became terrified of abandonment.
But anyway I. Know I I have a lot of
abandonment, anxious attachment trust issues.
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But people have violated your trust, like that woman that
didn't show up for the that's. Not the only one like where I
was dating this gal and then shewas also dating her ex-boyfriend
and then they were a thing and then they broke up and she came
back and I have a lot of like well maybe they'll come back and
I spend a lot of time wasting being like well maybe they'll
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come back. That was in college though.
That's when I was like pre standup.
Yeah. And now you were saying so that
for whatever reason, there's a part of you that hasn't I've
been able to show up in a way where you've, you've attracted
the right person that is for youthat's so excited to be with
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you. Yeah, I don't think it exists.
Yes it does. No, I'm I'm the Knight.
I am, I am Vengeance. I am the Knight.
I am Batman. That kind of shit do.
You think that? Well, listen, I have this.
I have this thing where I feel like, and a lot of people do,
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where we get attracted to peoplewho are not good for us.
Like there's a, you know what I mean?
Like the wrong people like, oh, and then trying to get them to,
to love us. And it's like, no, but have you
ever had this though? Have you ever had the other side
where it's the people that are attracted to you?
You're like. Oh God, yes.
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And also that haunts me in my darkest, most private moments
while I spent a lot of time Nancy thinking about the what
ifs. Like I think those haunt me or
I'm like, if I would have playedbaseball or if I would have kept
playing football, I would have never gotten to comedy.
I could have. And of course this is every
dude. Like I could have went pro.
I could have been on the Denver Broncos or whatever.
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But like I think about what my life could have been.
I can be like, I would have no financial debt.
I would have played football fora couple years.
I would have made the league minimum because I'm a big dude
and I would have been on the offensive line and I wouldn't be
the star quarterback. But like then I could have
retired and that would have beenmy life.
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Well, and you could have had that traumatic brain injury
where? That's true.
You're you're like so. I I mean.
But so how do you is there anything that helps you find
peace with that? Like do you have you done any
bits about this? Like like where, where it's the
what if like the because we could, you know, it really is a
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torture. It's a torture because it's it's
never going to be satisfied because we don't get to know.
Like what if like I think that too.
Like what if I had ignored my mother's suicide note when I
came out on evening at the Improv?
What if I'd ignored it and just said kill yourself.
I'm doing me, you know, like what if Jesus, I don't know.
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Well, I mean, I've shared that before on here and I'm yes, when
I came out on evening at the improv in 1994 and I'm, I'm
really proud. Like I got asked to do the show
and I was not a headliner yet. I was doing feature act stuff.
I'd been touring for three yearsand then all these major, you
know, Denver best headliners andme.
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And of course you could say, well, he invited you because you
came out as a lesbian and that was different at the time.
I don't know, but he I am the only one he asked to the show
and I got clear. There was a girl in Kansas about
to kill herself because she is in high school.
She found she's a lesbian. She needs to meet the lesbian
next door. You know, the clown, the lesbo.
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Lesbo the. Clown.
Hi, I'm your service lesbian, OK?
And then I do think that though,and I go back and then I, I
trust my path. This is how I make peace with
it. Just maybe it'll help you.
I don't know. Here's how I make peace with it.
If there's some part of my mother needed to again, it's
that pride thing. Like she, and then also she was,
she told me I would be an embarrassment to my entire
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family if I came out and then I did.
And like, what if she's successful next time and it was
my fault and really my whole family would blame me, 'cause
you killed mom, 'cause you are alesbian, you're a lesbianism
killed her mother. Oh, jeez.
I'm not very popular in my family, but what I think too.
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But what here's the joke I do about it is like, well, I could
have become Ellen and then, you know, 'cause I have narcissistic
traits, I definitely could have expanded on my narcissistic
traits instead of being the the humble servant you see before
you. But.
That could have been you on yourown talk show, throwing a
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scalding Starbucks coffee into an intern's face.
That. Could have been me so think I
like to do that that's how traumedy I would do around that
is like OK let's what could havehappened like what's the worst
thing that could have happened if you became like to me it
would be to be that to be Ellen would I would be so like I would
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be like my mom was right. You know that is fame and I
always look at this fame is thatmany more people who don't
really know you and it's it's a it's an illusion you know you
always hear these famous people are not happy.
Humor me. Like if you became a witch.
Let's go. Let's go with baseball.
Yeah. All right, man, You become.
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I'm the home run king of I'm. I don't know.
I think, I mean, it's more likely that I would have been a
football guy. OK, so let's go football.
All right, let's go football. I mean, what would have
happened? I don't know.
I would have played in college. I had a lot of offers in high
school to go play at. A lot of like, I could have went
to Stanford. Wow.
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Yeah. It was a huge point of
contention in my family that someone wanted to pay for my
school. And I was like, no, I am so
burnt out on being it. Like the way that my football
coach ran high school football. I was so burnt out because it's
like, OK, he pulled a lot of strings so that you have to be
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all the football players have tobe in first period weightlifting
class. And then you after school you
have to go to weightlifting until it's spring football.
Then you're in first period weightlifting class and then you
have to play spring football. And then you have to do the
weightlifting regimen in the summer.
And then you have two weeks off.Then you go back and you have
two a day practices and it's. There's no time for you.
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No, there's no time for you to have fun and just be a kid.
No, yeah. And then also it was like, like
I, I was very cool kid adjacent.I have the, I have the type of
parents where it's like, hey, ifyou're going to go to the party
and you're going to drink, you know, just call me and I'll come
get you or whatever. Like they were, they'd be,
they're perfect for that reason.But like, I didn't want to risk
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having to call them and bring shame upon the family by being
like I'm too drunk, come get me.Wow.
So you were. I didn't want to disappoint
them. That's powerful.
And so you left the party early,sober.
No, I never went to any parties.So you just didn't go?
No, because you would be too tempted.
Wow, you missed all the. Parties.
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I missed all the parties. I missed a lot of things.
You did miss a lot of things. Fine, what?
Who cares? Now look at now look at me.
I'm a miserable adult. I'm laughing because it's true.
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Yeah. We but you're and you're a
wonderful person. So I'm thinking if you had
become like, let's say you just put your chin down and like,
denied all of your desire, whatever it was that you needed
to rest, you needed a break. And you just went and got that,
went to Stanford with a full scholarship with football.
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And then and then what if, what if you got so lost that you
never found comedy and you'd abandoned yourself so far that
you did not? I mean, I'm worried that you
might not have survived. I'm would be a completely
different person, yeah. But I don't think you would be
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you. You would be.
What would you be that? Would you be an arrogant?
Maybe you would have attracted awoman that didn't really love
you but was just wanted to be with somebody who's a Pro
Football player. Oh yeah, I'd have one of those
bleach blonde MAGA wifes, probably, yeah.
So that that's where you would be and the and I'm telling you
you, you wouldn't have the the doughnut experience of the sex
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offering. Yeah, no, that's part of my
traumedy too. I don't.
Know, yeah, I, well also I probably would be in like, I'm
not in the best physical shape now.
I mean, I probably should start worrying about that now that I'm
almost 40. But like, my junior year I had
this really bad spondylothius inmy back.
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Wow. Yeah.
And I healed up and went back toplaying, and they gave me a
regimen of physical therapy and I was like, ah, dad, I'm not
going to do that anymore. So you could have been
paralyzed, you know, so if you play the what if game I got, I
think as an equal opportunity you have to go.
I might have had this the MAGA wife this heartless like just
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arm candy that wants a Pro Football player.
OK, that's best case. And then 10 millions of dollars
or you could have been that spondyliasis.
I know and I'm I was an ortho nurse so I'm embarrassed the.
Way you have to look at it, the way I understand it is so you
know you have like your spinal column and you have those little
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like wing bones that are on the side and they all fuse your
spinal column into a column. Yes I have broken some of those
and some of my spinal column wasshit like it was like a a set of
coasters but some of the cylinder is off center.
Wow, that is a very good description.
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So, but that impinges your spinal cord.
Yeah, if something goes wrong, it severs.
I could die or be paralyzed. OK, so I see we got to trust, we
got to trust your path on this because that you could literally
be in a wheelchair right now andyou're not.
You're in a very uncomfortable green chair, which that might at
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least you're not in Grandma's phone chair, her telephone
chair. It it literally is a, a little
old woman's chair that I'm like,here, have a seat, Mitch, I
didn't recognize you're 6 foot six.
You should be able to sit in Grandma's telephone chair.
That's like where Grandma would,you know, be like Myrtle's on
the phone. Let me you know.
That's exactly right. It was Evelyn.
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Evelyn Banning. Evelyn Banning.
Barbara Stanwick and I used to take the Charlie.
Yeah, and how is it now? How's your spine now?
Oh well, I turned 38 a couple weeks ago and the day before I
got out of bed and I wrenched myback so hard that I could not
walk. Almost like I could walk, but it
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was like shooting pain. Yeah, I think you you definitely
need to learn how to start taking care of Mitch.
It's too late. No, it isn't.
It's not too late. Please join me at a recovery
meeting. If not at a recovery meeting,
just join me right now. And you matter.
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And you got to trust that like, OK, I'm going to get, I know I'm
going to appeal to your Catholic.
Don't make me cry. OK, I'm going to appeal to your
Catholic side. Like I truly think God gave you
a gift and we need to share it with more people and we need to
let that out. And it's not about pride.
It's about honoring a gift givento you to help other people.
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Because when I, like I told you and I meant it when I see you,
there's a lightness. You have a light that comes
through your eyes. That is, it's wonderful.
Well. Thank you.
I, I you are. I want you to see that in the
mirror sometime. I'm working on it.
It's hard for me. I don't know, it goes back to
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what you were saying. Like I have a lot, like I have
so many videos of jokes and whatnot, but I'm afraid to put
them up because one, what if some Dick head sees this on
Instagram and then they steal myjoke?
Furthermore, what you were talking about earlier where it's
just like I can't, I can't handle the negative comments.
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Well, I mean. I want to be loved.
OK, so man, if we could be liberated, this would be amazing
if we could just like I don't care what people think of me.
It it you know that whole adage it what people think of me is
none of my business, right? Dude, I am not there.
I got to be honest. There are comments I've seen on
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some of the YouTube. YouTube has the most trolls.
We you are proven funny. We have nothing to prove.
In Colorado, we don't know what it's like.
OK. All right, Michael.
Sorry, I don't mean that you're trying to jazz me up.
And I'm, I'm like, don't say nice.
Things OK well I love that you're just like going to take
care of yourself this way but I want to get you outside of
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Colorado on some stages me too. And I want to set up a a path
for you like a way for you to take a break from a day job.
I think there's a lot of ways toget creative to take like a six
month break and figure out a wayto do a tour, like plan the tour
in advance so that you can take a break and go really go do it
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so that you get to see you are funny in every state in AI think
you. I can't think of a state like I
I've played almost every state. I can't think of a state where
you would not play well. Well, I, I would love to try,
but also I don't know. So we're in agreement.
You're going to burn down the place I work and.
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Yeah, if you give proper notice,they have time to find a
replacement. Nobody's going to be as good as
I. Am.
No, but they won't be. That's true, but.
I wish I had that attitude for my stand up instead of me doing
paperwork. Nobody's going to be as good as
I am. But you know, and the truth is,
nobody's going to be as good as you are at being you.
(53:38):
At being me. That's what I meant, yeah.
But that's true. OK, So right now there's nowhere
that people can go see your comedy like online.
I have a YouTube page. OK, one of my videos is private
right now. It's the Hot Pocket joke.
Oh my God, I love it so much I. Should.
Like can we can we make it available if?
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So this I did the gateway show have you.
It's where you do a like it's a weed smoking show.
Oh no, I so you do you do a sober set and then they have an
intermission where they get you stoned to the bone and then you
come back and do a a stone set. Oh wow.
It's very fun. Shout out Billy Anderson.
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I had a really good sober set and then I came back and I did
the hot. It was like the first time I did
the Hot Pocket joke as a long form thing because it was like
right after 51st jokes. So it's like a 5 or 6 minute
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bit. Yeah, it's like 6 minutes.
If you want to play it in its entirety, you can.
I give you that permission. Really.
Yeah, OK. There was a box of doughnuts
back there and there's only one left and we were all trying to
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out polite each other and until Big Daddy Cool decided to make a
move. All right, It's not all fun and
games when you're a Stoner. It's not all fun and games.
You got to watch out for shit. Case in point, I don't know if
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you've heard this news, but did you know that Hot Pockets no
longer come with a crisping sleeve?
I know this is the perfect fucking audience because every
other audience I've told that to, they're just like Hot
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Pockets. Someone in the front row was
aghast. Like they just found out about
911. What?
Yeah, they don't come with the the crisping sleeve anymore,
which is weird. I found out about this in late
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December of last year. I opened the box and I was like
where the fuck? Are the sleeps?
I called hot pockets because I thought I got a defective box.
I was so ready to fucking carrying it up on the phone.
This is my Karen stance by the way.
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But no, I I went on the Internet.
I confirmed with Reddit they do not make sleeves for the fucking
hot pockets anymore. But so whatever.
I was hungry. I threw it in the microwave.
So you do it for 2 minutes. And what they don't tell you is
that the crisping sleeve is vital to the Hot Pocket process.
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They probably discontinued it because it was giving everybody
ultra cancer or whatever. It was made out of a substance
that they found out of a meteor.And they would synthesize the
sleeves. But so when you microwave a
naked Hot Pocket, it comes out all floppy.
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And I said absolutely not, I don't want got a flaccid hot
pocket in my mouth. I'm about to eat this breaded
envelope full of rat meat and experimental cheese.
It better be rock fucking hard in my mouth.
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So I ate the flock pocket in December.
It was gross. Then some time pass the
holidays, You know, the holidaysare always weird.
I had a bad New Year's the past couple of New Year's.
I went out, I was with friends, I did a New Year's kiss.
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It was fucking awesome. This year was different, very
low key. I felt very bad about the
general state of everything. Had one of those bad brain New
Year's, you know, where your brain's like, hey, you know, all
your friends, they secretly hateyou and your and your other part
of your brains. Like that's obviously true.
That's that's so I was at home, was alone.
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I said happy New Year to myself.And then I was like, I'm so
hungry. The only fucking thing in my
fridge, Hot pockets. I was like, God damn it, that's
going to be my first sustenance of 2025.
So I I pulled the box out and I was like, I remember from
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December. I was like, I do not want the
first thing in 2025 is to wagglea fucking limp hot pocket into
my gullet at 1:00 AM. So I looked on the back of the
box. They tell you microwave or the
conventional oven. What am IA fucking scientist
now? I'm not going to place a single
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hot pocket in the real oven on the center of the rack.
Go fuck yourself. So I decided for toaster oven.
Toaster oven. Threw it in there, tranked it
up. I got high for the first time in
2025 and I left it in there for like 25 minutes.
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So here's here's what they also don't tell you about this
crisping sleeve that it gives the Hot Pocket the portability
so you can bring it to your mouth, right?
So I went to touch the Hot Pocket.
I was like, OK, I'm not going tograb this.
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I'm going to be a fancy bitch. The first thing in 2025.
I'm going to eat it on a plate with a fork and knife.
So I'm, I'm in the dark like 1 and I'm just, I'm sawing this in
Hot Pocket and I'm like, look, Iwasted 15 years of my life doing
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comedy. This is this is it for me.
This is I peeked and I was like,I'll never tell another joke
again. I forked my my sawed off piece
of Hot Pocket and I fit into it.And the second thing that
happened to me on 2025 was that I chipped my tooth on a Hot
Pocket everybody. But hey, this was a lot of fun.
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2025 is good. Again, everybody.
Thank you everyone. I'm Mitch Jones.
I got to get out of here. Bye.
I have so much confidence on stage, but then you talk to me
outside, I'm like, sorry for breathing.
It's true. I just feel like we need to get
you connected to you. I need to realign my chakras.
(01:01:18):
Yeah, that's what it is. TuneIn again.
Next time when Mitch comes back in a year, totally different
chakra alignment, different energy as far as confidence goes
off stage. Same bad time, same bad channel.
Thanks, Mitch. Thanks for having me appreciate
it and answer. Bye.
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I want to thank my guest, Mitch.Jones.
Thank you for being so vulnerable and open and honest.
Contact Mitch at comic Mitch Jones on Instagram.
Go support him September 17th atComedy Works in the.
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Come out and see that show. It's going to be fantastic.
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Thank you the listener for beingon this Co healing journey.
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Kind of normalizes things when we all are honest with each
other. I really like that.
I will be back here uploading another episode as soon as
possible in the meantime, no matter what.
Keep. Laughing.
You're listening to Trauma D, the podcast that helps you take
your pain and. Play with it.
I'm Nancy Norton. I am a comedian, a former nurse,
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One of my. Favourites.
He is a Denver favorite. Everybody I've talked to this
week is like, oh. I love that guy.
And yet he has a lack of confidence off stage and so I
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just want to commend him for coming on being so vulnerable.
I have so much confidence on stage, but then you talk to me
outside, I'm like, sorry for breathing.
We recorded this episode before he won his round of a contest at
the Denver Comedy Works. He is going on to the finals of
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It goes on for weeks and to get to the finals is quite an
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So we got to stick together, figure out ways we can help each
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your host, Nancy Norton. I love it.
We should just start. Welcome to traumedy.
My guest this week is a comedianand actor and a wonderful
person. Please welcome Mitch Jones.
Hey, thanks for having me, Nancy.
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I appreciate it. Thank you.
I love your setup here. I love the purple and green
mics. Yeah, I know that.
Where's that pink? I think, well, I like to think
it's in the purple vein, you know, vein it all sounds like
purple vein sounds something like that we're getting.
Into the vein so. We're getting into the judge way
too early. Yeah.
But yes, I do have a thing for purple, as you saw with my
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purple furniture, my purple door.
Purple desktop. Purple knobs.
Purple knob, Hey. Thank you for coming and you
work here in Boulder and and happened to be in the
neighborhood and I I ran into itthe Denver comedy underground.
I love that place. And I do, too.
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It's, I'm so excited. Ben Bryant.
I've. I've been trying to get Ben
Bryant to visit with me, which he will someday, but it's so
cool that it's comedian owned and operated.
I love it. Denver Comedy Underground.
Everybody should check it out. Yeah, and we were having a good
time and I just what I mean, every time I see you, it kind of
lightens my mood. So I want to thank you for that.
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I just think you're. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm happy to be of service and
that May I'm a service animal. I'm a service beast.
Well, I just think that you carry, there's a lightness
around you. And I, I told several.
I was saying I even told you this in the kitchen, but I told
you like, I talked to several comedians.
I'm like, I'm going to interviewMitch Jones and like, oh, tell
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him hi. I love that guy.
You know, like ever. It's just it must feel good to
know you're very loved in the community.
I yes, I, I, I don't know, maybethis is my drama coming out, but
sometimes it's just like, am I supposed to feel shame or I like
being like, everybody likes to be like that's.
So shame is a friend is a friendof yours.
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Sure. Yeah, I grew up raised Catholic,
so that's like right then and there.
That's that's part of it. That's part of the Catholic
experience. Oh yeah.
From the How early do you remember feeling like I should
feel bad about something? I think that's the whole like
sin of sin of pride is not the like you're not supposed to feel
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pride in your accomplishments orwhatever.
Yeah, I think that even Lutherans, we did, we weren't
allowed, at least in my family, to not not.
You couldn't say something you're proud of about yourself
without feeling like you're going to get taken down.
Like, I don't know, I, I, I carry that a lot.
Or I'm like, if I do a set and like everything goes good, but I
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flub one word, I'm like, well, that was a complete disaster.
I need to go home and reassess my comedy.
Wow. So in a way that court, you
know, and some people might say there's some, I don't know, they
use the term toxic shame. You know, if there's like a core
belief that we got to find the thing that affirms that I'm a
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bad person. Like I'm, I'm, I'm kind of one
of those people that's always looking for that too.
I, I came out of a long meeting.Now mine was worse than flubbing
one word. I did call this woman on the
committee a bitch. Whoa.
In the meeting I may. Not be asking.
That's in the official minutes of that meeting.
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At 12:45, Miss Norton calls so and so a bitch.
It was a it was a bunch of Boulder pastors.
No way. So they were really not vibing
with that. I go spend an hour with them
kind of telling them and showingthem my my muses.
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And then this woman goes, well, I don't know, this is a match.
I, I, I don't know if I've seen an, or know her comedy.
And I was like, hey, bitch, you know, And I kind of did it in a
mocking way. Right.
Like, in a way that comedians would say to, you know,
colloquially call each other bitch.
Yeah, but I was like, I would. We'll see.
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We'll see if I get that gig. I definitely came out of that
meeting with just. That's all that I remember from
it. So but that's a pretty harsh,
that's a pretty harsh one word, but you're just the saying, Oh,
I stumbled like maybe I stammered on something or
whatever. Didn't end the bit the way I
usually. Do right, I always like or you
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know, like a comedy works where I was doing a host set and they
give you 10 minutes and I was like, well, that light, I didn't
see the light. The light has to have come and
gone by now. I've like, I don't know what it
is, but like especially with at comedy works where you see the
clock and I'm like, OK, it is 7:15.
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I know that 715 + 10 is 725. And then I step out there, hey
everybody, how's it going tonight?
And I talk for a couple minutes and I'm like, oh shit, what?
How long is 10 minutes? And then I'm like, OK, now it's
7/25. I need to get off stage and that
light has to have gone and, you know, come and gone by now.
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But I end my set. And then I was just like, the
the dude that weren't was running the light that night.
I was like, I'm so sorry, did I miss the light?
He goes, no, you actually went two minutes short.
And so from then and there, I was just like, you know, I had
to, I like a quarterback that lost a big game.
I had to like later that night, throw my arm up on the wall in
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the shower and just think about that.
Oh. Wow.
And that's a sign of also, well,it comedy works specifically, it
is such a, let's just say a buyer's market.
You know, there's just so many comedians that want to be on the
comedy works stage and it kind of creates a sense of scarcity
and fear and like, Oh my gosh, And that is one of the main
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things in comedy is like, be on time or whatever.
Don't run the line, don't run the line.
Hey, better short than long, right?
But but it is a weird. I've had that feeling too there.
I've had it a couple times whereit's like, wait, did I miss it?
And I'd rather I like like it. Denver comedy underground.
I love that clock and I love that I can time the whole thing
(09:20):
too, where it's like, yeah, and it goes up, right?
It counts up. Yes, I think.
It counts up. I wish it, I wish it counted
down, but that's just me becausesometimes I'm like, what am I
doing? Oh yeah, 10 minutes.
I don't like to have to rememberanything, right?
Because when you're in the zone,frontal lobe kind of goes
offline, so. Exactly.
You're you're total lizard brain.
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You're like, I got to say the the funny things I need.
I need the laughs. But like that night we were
there, I was kind of running a little late, but I was like, OK,
I got to cut this chunk out so that I can make it on time and
get off stage and not run my time.
So I appreciate a a clock that counts up or down, whatever.
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The ones that are just the clock, you know, I'm so bad.
A thing about me is I'm really bad at telling analog time.
I can do it, but I prefer a digital clock.
You're young enough that you didn't grow up with analog
clocks. I did though.
I was born in 1987. Oh, so there were analog clocks?
Yeah, in 87. Yeah, there was I.
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Can't remember when most clocks went digital.
But growing up, we had this big analog clock in the living room
at our house. And whenever my mom would be
like, what time is it? I would, instead of looking at
the giant clock, I would go to look at the stove because it had
a digital clock. And so that was a point of like
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contention where it's just like,can you not tell analog time?
And I was like, no. Do you think you have a dyslexia
thing? I don't think so.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know, maybe I've
never been diagnosed as such. That's OK.
We don't need to diagnose you today.
It's all right. Where are the cameras?
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Well, I was really enjoying yourbit about the Hot Pockets, and I
don't know why I like. OK, first I want, by the way.
Yeah, I love it. I love that bit.
It's so real. And it's so.
And I love that it's a chunk now, like it's a nice long bit.
Like you've invested in it. And they say that in comedy, you
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know, once you break a subject, might as well flush it out as
far as you can, you know? Yeah.
That's my whole like I was inspired growing up by, well,
not growing up, but like when I first started getting into
comedy, I saw Ben Roy pretty early on and he on his first
album he's he's like I'm a bit of a long like the he opens the
album by being like, I'm a long form comic.
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And a lot of comedians, you know, they always tell you when
they're about to get off stage by saying they're wrapping it
up. But I'm a long form comic, so
I'm going to get out of here on this one.
And. That's like the first.
Thing that he said and I was like I want to do long form
jokes I like that so I started that bit at 51st jokes this year
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and it was a 2 minute chunk and now my whole my I've kind of
become the I got to and I joke and say yeah I'm the king of
taking a two-minute premise and stretching it into a 7 minute
bit or whatever but that Hot HotPocket chunk has been my baby
this year yeah. I like it so fun.
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And then I, I read I OK, so whenyou go to the Denver comedy
underground, it's free pizza andthe comedians can have pizza as
well. And I've been trying to eat
gluten free and vegan. So I brought my own gluten free
vegan pizza to put in the oven and, and then I, I, I wanted to
share it with people and I'm just Donna, I'm just kidding.
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Man, I. Know though, well, because I
cheat, that's my problem is I have no willpower, especially if
I drink. So if I go there and I have a
Kentucky mule, after that mule, I'm like, who's it going to
hurt? If I eat one cheese slice of
cheese and it hurts me, it does kind of hurt my soul.
I can't explain it. I mean, I can it's I really feel
it's wrong to exploit and enslave animals and kill them.
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I really feel it's wrong, but I also love a cheese pizza.
So yes, I took care of myself. I asked in advance like, Hey, is
it OK if I bring that? And I'm happy to share it with
an audience member too, if somebody else is gluten free or
vegan. But anyway, I, I offered you a
piece of it and then I got a laugh because you, when I
offered you another, the anotherpiece, you're like, no, no, I'm
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full. And you patted.
You patted your stomach, and then you went and got a hot dog.
I didn't ask for a hot dog. Lily was like, to be fair, I, I
know what the optics of that looked like.
I was like, I don't want your gluten free pizza, Nancy.
I. Don't know but I wouldn't blame
you because it is like hey it's not for everyone And then I and
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then invited you over for some vegan hot pot.
I tried to get vegan. Hot Pot pre podcast pizza
pockets say that five times fast.
Vegan pizza. Pockets vegan peanza.
I can't even do it but. Vegan pizza pockets?
Let's try. Vegan pizza pockets.
I can't do it. You know why 'cause your soul
does not want that exactly. But.
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But, you know, right after that,like, I didn't mind it, you
know, I'm not I, I just told you, I'm not gonna shy away from
broadening my horizons. It was.
It was what? Yeah, it was a vegan piece of
pizza. The cheese stuck to my teeth a
little more like you said it would.
I promise, Yeah, I do. I do.
I do a warning. Yeah, but then Lily was like,
hey, we have a bunch of extra hot dogs, do you want 1?
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And I was like, well, if you gotan extra hot dog, I'll haul it
away maybe. I like that you went from
Catholic to kind of a New York Jewish.
I don't know. I don't know if that one I'm
not. Haul it away, maybe?
Yeah, I'll haul it away. Maybe.
Or who is that maybe? Was that an Italian?
What is that accent? I don't.
It's, I guess it's a little bit of a kind of like if you got an
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extra 1, I'll haul it away, maybe for the sake of not
getting me in trouble. It was Italian.
Yeah, yeah. Because you're Italian, you can
say, right? OK, I know it's interesting.
Now we can't do accents even if they're like somebody like I
used to close with my Chinese landlady who literally I was
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not. It was not a statement about all
Chinese people, but I have learned it's insensitive.
However, Florence Tien was my landlady and it was an amazing.
I got, I don't want to brag, butit was a very good impression
and it was exactly what she saidto me, which is you don't need a
garbage disposal. You just eat your food.
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Imagine it with a great accent. Then I would say she's from
Arkansas. I don't know why she talks like
that, so I know. I don't think I've ever heard
you do that. Well, you missed it.
I missed it. That was.
I'm not allowed now. Nope, not allowed.
So when we talk on trauma D and we were talking before, it's not
necessarily that has to be like some big trauma, but just how
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humor has helped you cope in your life in general.
Like have you like you said, yougrew up Catholic?
That's there's one that a lot ofpeople call that religious
trauma in my recovery work. Yeah.
Then there's you grew up in a big Italian family or small.
Well, I mean, yes, I have a lot of cousins, but I only have one
(16:26):
sister. OK, so you're not in a, you
weren't like in a huge family where you had to fight for
attention with, were you? Were you funny as a kid?
Of course, yeah, I I was the first son, first grandson, first
nephew. So I'm the golden child.
Oh, that's why you're so comfortable.
Yeah, my sister hates it. I'm sure she but but she also
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had the first grandkid. So my niece is now the golden
child, which I love it. She, my niece, is my little
buddy and she, she's going to bea little comedian.
She's going to be 10 times funnier than I could ever hope
to be. How old is she?
She's 6 now. Oh, that is a fun age and she's
just a got. She's witty and always just has
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that funny take on things. She is, yeah.
I got this for one for Christmas.
I got her a little puppet, a little Yeti puppet of
Macguckin's over here. And so if she's not like I'll
play the Yeti and I'll interact with her with it.
But then sometimes she'll just do it herself.
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And like I have little videos ofher doing little skits as the
Yeti and I'm like, oh God, she'sa little clown.
My mom's like she's more like you than she is than Nicola, my
sister. Oh wow, like.
Oh, don't say that then she'll get pissed.
My sister will be pissed. She already felt like the
invisible child. Now she's the invisible mom.
Right, I don't want her to feel that way.
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No, you don't. It's her time now she has the
golden baby. Yeah, she's the mom of the
golden baby. She has her own purpose.
It doesn't have to just be birthing the golden child.
That's true, that's true. That's I didn't mean to diminish
her to that. Does she have more than one
child? No, she's no, but she's the
successful kid. She is a teacher.
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She has a great little kid. I'm the one that's like, mom,
I'm going to do Dick jokes. I'm not going to use my college
degree at all and I'm going to go so.
What is your college degree? In IT is journalism centering on
mass telecommunications, with a minor in film.
Oh, really? So in a way.
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You are. I mean, you're doing media.
We're doing telecommunications right now.
We're doing it, Ma. Yeah, we're doing it.
We're doing it, Ma has. She passed on.
No. Oh, because the way you gestured
to the ceiling, I was working. No, you're just doing a fist.
You hear that, Ma He? Pointed to the floor.
No, no, Ma. She's is she here in Colorado?
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Oh no. Way my whole family is like with
the exception of a few cousins that moved.
I have like my whole like extended families tri-county
area. Oh really?
Where? Wait, where?
Where were you raised? I was born in Boulder, Boulder
Community Hospital here. Did I know this?
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I don't know, maybe. I had no idea you were a natural
Boulderite. I.
Was a natural Boulderite, raisedin Louisville, lived in Greeley
for about 10 years and then Greeley is what messed me up and
made me into a comedian. Really.
Did you go down to the Greeley? The Underground.
The the down under. The down under, that's what it
(19:43):
was called. The down under behind the
target. Yeah, all you No wonder it
didn't work out. All you had to do was go behind
King Soopers, go underneath the loading dock from Joann's
Fabrics, then go down to the nonADA compliant stairway through
the brick hallway into the comedy club.
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I, I worked there for years and every time I would get lost on
my way to find that room. I really did.
I remember there was a car dealership and I don't know, but
I played that room. It was a good room it.
Was a great. Room.
I played it back when they're still smoking in there.
Oh yeah, it was just a great. With those low ceilings, can you
could you even stand up in? There, Yeah.
(20:26):
Oh yeah. Because it had those nice low
ceilings and then it had that cool mural on the back wall like
Janis Joplin and a butterfly. I can't remember everything on
the background, but that I played that room a lot back in
the 90s and then maybe in the 2000.
When So? What year did you start then?
2010. 2010. Yeah, so when Josh and Danielle
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reopened it, they were great. And they they liked me.
So I got to like, one of my biggest faux pas ever is I went
down there to see there was a headliner on stage finishing up
their act. And they liked me so much,
they're like, you should go up and do some time after the
headliner. And I didn't know better.
So I was like, yeah, of course. It's humbling, isn't it?
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I looking back, I was like, whatthe was I thinking I shouldn't
have done that. But we don't know when we are
starting out that that's just I've, I think there's been a
time where I've done something similar at one point where it
seemed like I could do that. So that's where you started
comedy? That's where I started because I
I was always like a funny kid growing up.
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I played sports a lot and like during like banquets.
My coach in high school was like, Mitch is always so funny.
He's got the same and this is like wild to me that this was
his equivalency, but he's like his he always reminds me of Bob
Newhart. I was like, what?
Well, you do have a button down shirt on.
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That's true. That's true.
The button down mind of Bob Newhart.
Yeah, there you go. But like he was like he his the
way he acts and his his humor reminds me of Bob Newhart.
And I was like, wow, I don't seeit, but I will take that as the
highest form of. Compliment.
That's a great compliment, but you know, I can kind of see it
because there's something very natural about you that it's it's
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just who you are and there isn'tlike I have to sell and I I kind
of drop into this caricature of myself that's like a little
Ozarky, a little like more aggressive, a little higher
energy. You know, like I amp it up and
then I also try to throw my energy to the back wall.
But then you're like, hey, you just kind of are.
(22:38):
You just show up and you just are yourself talking stories.
My my stage persona is just me turned up to 11.
Oh really? So you do feel like you turn it,
You do turn it up because you are so laid back.
I'm laid back. Yeah, laid back.
But even when you turn it up, itjust, it doesn't feel like
you're pushing it. It just feels like, I mean,
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clearly that microphone lights and everything, but it's like, I
don't know, it just feels very organic.
Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
I I don't know. I, I like to perform.
I played sports so much. And then I had a friend who we
grew up together. We, we were like, we want to be
stand ups. We want to like get in, we want
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to write our own show and have like a sitcom kind of thing.
And that never really came to fruition.
I took my last semester of high school, I took an intro to
theater class and then I was like, oh, I like performing.
But then I'm not the best at remembering my lines, you know,
like, so stand up is kind of like the most refined form of
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that. Like I know what I want to say
and I don't have to rely on anyone else to say that.
But I didn't know that I wanted to do stand up because like,
see, I graduated in 2005 and then I didn't start doing stand
up until 2010. I and I was trying to mind
myself. I was like, what are some
traumatic moments that I could to and I had this recovered
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memory of this time where I wentto go see.
So I I wanted to go see Brian Regan at the Union Colony Civic
Center in Greeley. I had his album, thought it was
hilarious. It was one of those albums that
like my folks also liked becausehe's a clean comic.
So I was like, I want to see Brian Regan when he comes.
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And I was in an acting class in college.
I asked this gal to go as like adate and she said yes.
And I bought the tickets and then the day of the show came
and she didn't answer her phone,didn't answer any texts.
I called like a million times and I could have asked any one
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of my NUM numerous friends, but I was so defeated.
I was just like, no, I'm just going to go alone.
And I hope I don't see anybody Iknow there.
Turns out I did. I saw my friend Nick and all of
his friends. But like, I think that's kind of
what made me be like, hey, this is making me feel better.
I want. I want to do stand up.
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Wow. Oh, so it was happened to be
going to a comedy show and then to have this person ghost you
like that and then you're feeling and that but you but you
got through it. You saw your buddies there.
Yeah, I saw my friends and they were like, who are you here
with? And I was like, no one.
I had to explain. The whole thing was like, yeah,
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she didn't answer a phone, didn't and didn't answer any
texts. I never got to be like, hey,
bitch, answer the phone or I'll kill you.
Like I didn't, I didn't get to that level.
I'm not like an incel like that.But it was definitely just like
a hey, I don't know if you remember, but we said we were
going to go to this tonight. But hope, you know, I hope
everything's OK. And then of course, you know,
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the next time I saw her in class, like, Oh yeah, you know,
I didn't, I left my phone at home and I was out studying or
whatever, like. Some lame excuse who?
Cares, it doesn't matter becauseit led me to my path.
That's right. And it was all meant to be.
God had a plan. Yes, I do believe.
That we're on a mission from Godand.
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We are actually, I do think thatI do think humor is a higher
power language. Like I do believe in a higher
power. I mean, I do.
I do think it's part of like my sole purpose is to help, you
know, actually that's the whole mission of the podcast.
Help heal myself and others withwith with trauma D, you know,
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taking some tough things and it's been in it and but I do
believe in fate sometimes. Like I think that really did
light a fire in you. It's not, it's not a mistake,
but it's still like, OK, I'm going to, I'm going to tough it
out. And then, you know, Oh my gosh,
before you knew it, you felt better.
You're laughing. You're not, you're in the
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moment. That's the other thing I love
about comedy. It's in the moment.
Like if if you're on the ride with a comedian, it's you're
right there. You're not thinking about the
past or the future, right? It's kind of cool.
Yeah. I mean, that led me to my path,
but it also opened me up to be like, why did that happen?
Am I just fundamentally unlovable?
Is that what's going on there? I don't know.
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Clearly we've already covered that's not true because
everybody loves you that I know.But for you to even say that I
know there's a part of you that has that script of like, I mean,
we all I'm going to say I'll speak for myself.
I definitely can find that script in me that's like I'm
unlovable. And then like sometimes feeling
like, oh, we have to do a good show to love ourselves.
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And it's like, you know, the keyI think is like, can I love
myself when I have called someone a bitch out of a
meeting? Right.
Yeah. I love myself even when I mess
up. Yeah, of course.
I mean, I, I always love myself,but there's definitely a,
there's a, a phrase that's been running through my head because
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I've had a lot of unsuccessful relationships where I'm like,
everybody loves me, but nobody'sin love with me.
That's and that makes me super sad.
Yeah. I don't know if I've ever had
reciprocal romantic love. Wow.
Yeah, I want to change that. I know.
Let's put that out to the lovinguniverse.
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Right, I'm a cancer. I like not hikes and.
I like, I like what would what would be like?
I, I, you know, I've been thinking about this for myself
lately and I'm getting to this age where it's kind of like that
ship has sailed. I, I mean, but I'm like a young
man like yourself. How young.
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Thank you very much. I'm almost 40.
But that's young. That's so you'll you'll realize
later how how young that is. OK.
It's a wonderful time. You you're you're already like
the 20s are too young because you're still forming, you know,
I mean, I got married when I was20 and and my ex-husband and I,
it ran its course. I mean, we put each other
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through college. We're still friends.
But it was like, you're changed too much, you know, by the time
we got to 30, it's like we're different people now.
Yeah. Start with a new one.
That's how because you came up in like the 70s and 80s, Yeah.
So like, that's how it used to happen.
People got married early. Like my folks got married when
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my mom was 22, my dad was 21 andthey had me when I was when my
mom was 23, when she had me. So I have a relative, you know,
that's what people did back then.
But you, sorry, comedy at 23, itsounds like, if I'm doing the
math correctly, five years afterhigh school.
And I was just thinking, you married, you married your
career, you know, like that. That's a big commitment.
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Yeah, comedy's a big commitment.Sure is.
And when you say career, I just want everyone to know she's
saying it. Definitely.
And this is my self hatred coming in.
It's quote UN quote career because I definitely have a day
job. I don't have a career in comedy.
Well then, how should we reframeit?
It's my blessing and my curse. Yeah, your blessing and your
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curse. You're you're compelled.
My compulsion. Your compulsion is that.
Yeah, your compulsion is comedy.I get that.
I, I, I, I definitely have that.I I really could not not do it.
I can't go back. I mean, I thought for sure, like
when the pandemic happened, I was like really burnt out
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because I when I started, I was just like, and I didn't know
that comedy is a marathon. It's not a Sprint.
For some people it might. But when I was, I was 23 and I
was starting out in Greeley and I was like, OK, if I'm not super
famous by the time I'm 30, I'm going to quit.
And then I got to be 30 years old in the blink of an eye.
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And I was like, well, if I don'tmake it by the time I'm 10 years
in, I'm going to quit. And then I was.
Now here I am 15 years in like, well shit.
All I was going to say obviouslyI'm I just got on Medicare.
So I'm I'm about to turn 65 and you know what, what I thought
comedy, like at the beginning, we have different ideas of what
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it is for us. Like at the beginning you have
different models like having a sitcom.
I wrote a pilot, The Nancy TylerNorton Show, which was kind of
the Mary Tyler the Lesbian Mary Tyler Moore Show with my friend
George McClure back in the 90s. I love George I.
Do too and so we wrote this whole thing and we had Chinese
landlady that was hilarious but that never so then Ellen did the
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thing and I'm like well I don't really need they don't need to
meet the lesbian next door. Now I'm no longer lesbian
identified, but also I think I started stand up.
Well, first of all, you're just kind of excited to like find out
you can be funny on stage, you know, and like you said, you,
you come from sports background.So you're, you are used to
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performing under pressure. Performing under pressure, but
it's a lot of team. Like you'd think I'd be more
suited for improv, but there's whatever is broken inside me.
I'd have to be like, I can't do improv because I have to be the
one that's like, I say the funnythings.
Yes, I got to be the the the funniest.
Yeah, and I know they don't likethat in improv.
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If if you're not like yielding and give you know, like setting
like with volleyball, let them spike it.
No, I will spike you set. Maybe if I started improv first
and learned and then went to stand up that'd be fine, but
like. Or if you had a really good,
like, who was, who was I interviewing?
Oh, Janae Burris was saying she started with improv, but then
they just weren't funny enough. So she's like, you know, it
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frustrated her to do it. But before we go farther, I
wanted to ask, what kind of sports did you play?
Football. I played football and baseball.
How tall are you, I? AM 60 I'm I'm probably
compressed now but at my tallestI was 6/6.
Wow, 6/6. One of my biggest regrets is
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stopping playing baseball. I love baseball so much more.
And they somehow they talked youinto football.
Well, 'cause I came up in the time when it's like, remember
the Titans came out and that's when every football coach in
America was like, football is like the Army.
We have to be training at every given moment and we have to be
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ready for anything that can happen.
And so you couldn't. You couldn't do both.
I could have, but I it was like,it was very kind of like
secretly acknowledged that the coach didn't like multi sport
athletes. And then I had a couple of
friends that were like they wereon the baseball team, but
they're like, you probably wouldn't like baseball.
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There's a lot of running. And I was like, I like, of
course there's a lot of running in football too.
Why did I let them dissuade me like that?
Yeah. I don't know, there's something
that I think whenever we acquiesce and I get, I kind of
get mad at myself, you know? I mean, like if I let somebody
talk me out of something that I knew was right, maybe that's
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also part of your comedy thing. Or it's like nobody's going to
do that again, you know? So this is your thing.
And I all I was going to say about this arc of comedy and it
is like we have these qualifiers.
Like what does it mean to make it Like that's it.
I think it meant. What did it mean to you?
Like having the Netflix special,everybody knowing your name
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famous. Is that making it or was it?
Was there something specific that you had in your mind?
I guess that's making it. Yeah, I wanted.
I like, I want to. I've only been on one tour and
it was up to the Pacific Northwest.
I want to tour, I want to play clubs.
Man, you, you, you should be doing that.
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You could be doing that. I.
I there's something you're. So funny and you're, I mean, and
one of the biggest things in comedy is being likable.
You're so likable and lovable onstage and funny and you deliver.
I've never done been on a show with you that you didn't
deliver. So it's, it's kind of wild to
me, but maybe it's just a beliefsystem or something that you
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don't believe you can. I am terrified of.
So I don't do really good crowd work.
You know, you're really good at talking to people on stage.
I don't have that. That's not a tool that I have in
my tool belt. So if someone talks and also I
kind of fucked up my hearing by listening to loud music in my
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20s. So I, it's not a good show.
I'm like, what? What?
What did you say, you know? And, and so well right now, just
because of Instagram and all that, that there's so much crowd
work. I hate it.
You know, and it's not necessary.
I don't think you have to be a crowd work comedian and I think
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you can absolutely tell club owners, 'cause I think, and to
me this is and I know it's like,again, a buyer's market.
But if you go into any, especially clubs where people
know and love you and say shut down any hecklers for me, I
don't like that you have honed bits that are great, that you
don't need, that you don't have to do that.
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Yeah, I, I know, but I, I don't know.
And if this is like a, it's thisa fear that's holding me back
where someone heckles or whatever and I don't, I'm not
because I'm, I got that Italian temper.
So I'm just like, shut the fuck up or I'll kill you.
I would love to see this. I don't want someone who's like.
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We want to see that side of you in a weird way.
Or maybe not. Maybe we don't want to see.
I don't know. You don't want to, you don't
want to. That won't go back in the box.
But like, you know, in this day and age, you never know if
someone's going to come out of the crowd and punch you in the
face, shoot you with a gun or whatever.
Like, I don't know what's going to happen.
And I one of my biggest fears with comedy is all right, So
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what if I'm not? Like, what if I'm just Colorado
funny and it doesn't translate out into all these other places?
And then furthermore, what if I asked someone to vouch for me
and this person vouches for me? And then I go out and I do the
thing and I eat shit real hard. And I not only ruin my own
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reputation, but I also ruin the reputation of the person that
vouched for me. That's a lot of pressure that's
on you. I don't know why I have.
Yeah, so this maybe the whole reason we're doing trauma D
today is to work through this block because I mean, we I feel
like we need to do an intervention.
Like we need to get a bunch of comedians who all know and love
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you and are like, no dude, you're good and you're and I
would vouch for you. Anyone would vouch for you.
And if and if you had an off night, So what I if that ruins a
reputation with me with a club, forget that club.
I mean, they, you know, they, it's not going to happen.
It might. No.
Maybe it stems from all these abandonment issues with my
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relationships where it's just like everybody's got to love me
and if they don't then I feel like I have failed.
But see, that's back to what we were talking about earlier with
the anxious attachment style. Like it feels like we might die
if people don't like us. I do feel like that's, I don't
know if it goes back to the crib, you know, when we were
infants because the trauma work I've done, and I'm not saying
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this is you. I'm just saying for me, it's
like there's some part of me that feels like if, if, if I'm
not liked, I will, I will die. That's and that is that
abandonment. You know, in my recovery
program, it is like we became terrified of abandonment.
But anyway I. Know I I have a lot of
abandonment, anxious attachment trust issues.
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But people have violated your trust, like that woman that
didn't show up for the that's. Not the only one like where I
was dating this gal and then shewas also dating her ex-boyfriend
and then they were a thing and then they broke up and she came
back and I have a lot of like well maybe they'll come back and
I spend a lot of time wasting being like well maybe they'll
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come back. That was in college though.
That's when I was like pre standup.
Yeah. And now you were saying so that
for whatever reason, there's a part of you that hasn't I've
been able to show up in a way where you've, you've attracted
the right person that is for youthat's so excited to be with
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you. Yeah, I don't think it exists.
Yes it does. No, I'm I'm the Knight.
I am, I am Vengeance. I am the Knight.
I am Batman. That kind of shit do.
You think that? Well, listen, I have this.
I have this thing where I feel like, and a lot of people do,
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where we get attracted to peoplewho are not good for us.
Like there's a, you know what I mean?
Like the wrong people like, oh, and then trying to get them to,
to love us. And it's like, no, but have you
ever had this though? Have you ever had the other side
where it's the people that are attracted to you?
You're like. Oh God, yes.
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And also that haunts me in my darkest, most private moments
while I spent a lot of time Nancy thinking about the what
ifs. Like I think those haunt me or
I'm like, if I would have playedbaseball or if I would have kept
playing football, I would have never gotten to comedy.
I could have. And of course this is every
dude. Like I could have went pro.
I could have been on the Denver Broncos or whatever.
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But like I think about what my life could have been.
I can be like, I would have no financial debt.
I would have played football fora couple years.
I would have made the league minimum because I'm a big dude
and I would have been on the offensive line and I wouldn't be
the star quarterback. But like then I could have
retired and that would have beenmy life.
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Well, and you could have had that traumatic brain injury
where? That's true.
You're you're like so. I I mean.
But so how do you is there anything that helps you find
peace with that? Like do you have you done any
bits about this? Like like where, where it's the
what if like the because we could, you know, it really is a
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torture. It's a torture because it's it's
never going to be satisfied because we don't get to know.
Like what if like I think that too.
Like what if I had ignored my mother's suicide note when I
came out on evening at the Improv?
What if I'd ignored it and just said kill yourself.
I'm doing me, you know, like what if Jesus, I don't know.
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Well, I mean, I've shared that before on here and I'm yes, when
I came out on evening at the improv in 1994 and I'm, I'm
really proud. Like I got asked to do the show
and I was not a headliner yet. I was doing feature act stuff.
I'd been touring for three yearsand then all these major, you
know, Denver best headliners andme.
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And of course you could say, well, he invited you because you
came out as a lesbian and that was different at the time.
I don't know, but he I am the only one he asked to the show
and I got clear. There was a girl in Kansas about
to kill herself because she is in high school.
She found she's a lesbian. She needs to meet the lesbian
next door. You know, the clown, the lesbo.
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Lesbo the. Clown.
Hi, I'm your service lesbian, OK?
And then I do think that though,and I go back and then I, I
trust my path. This is how I make peace with
it. Just maybe it'll help you.
I don't know. Here's how I make peace with it.
If there's some part of my mother needed to again, it's
that pride thing. Like she, and then also she was,
she told me I would be an embarrassment to my entire
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family if I came out and then I did.
And like, what if she's successful next time and it was
my fault and really my whole family would blame me, 'cause
you killed mom, 'cause you are alesbian, you're a lesbianism
killed her mother. Oh, jeez.
I'm not very popular in my family, but what I think too.
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But what here's the joke I do about it is like, well, I could
have become Ellen and then, you know, 'cause I have narcissistic
traits, I definitely could have expanded on my narcissistic
traits instead of being the the humble servant you see before
you. But.
That could have been you on yourown talk show, throwing a
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scalding Starbucks coffee into an intern's face.
That. Could have been me so think I
like to do that that's how traumedy I would do around that
is like OK let's what could havehappened like what's the worst
thing that could have happened if you became like to me it
would be to be that to be Ellen would I would be so like I would
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be like my mom was right. You know that is fame and I
always look at this fame is thatmany more people who don't
really know you and it's it's a it's an illusion you know you
always hear these famous people are not happy.
Humor me. Like if you became a witch.
Let's go. Let's go with baseball.
Yeah. All right, man, You become.
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I'm the home run king of I'm. I don't know.
I think, I mean, it's more likely that I would have been a
football guy. OK, so let's go football.
All right, let's go football. I mean, what would have
happened? I don't know.
I would have played in college. I had a lot of offers in high
school to go play at. A lot of like, I could have went
to Stanford. Wow.
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Yeah. It was a huge point of
contention in my family that someone wanted to pay for my
school. And I was like, no, I am so
burnt out on being it. Like the way that my football
coach ran high school football. I was so burnt out because it's
like, OK, he pulled a lot of strings so that you have to be
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all the football players have tobe in first period weightlifting
class. And then you after school you
have to go to weightlifting until it's spring football.
Then you're in first period weightlifting class and then you
have to play spring football. And then you have to do the
weightlifting regimen in the summer.
And then you have two weeks off.Then you go back and you have
two a day practices and it's. There's no time for you.
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No, there's no time for you to have fun and just be a kid.
No, yeah. And then also it was like, like
I, I was very cool kid adjacent.I have the, I have the type of
parents where it's like, hey, ifyou're going to go to the party
and you're going to drink, you know, just call me and I'll come
get you or whatever. Like they were, they'd be,
they're perfect for that reason.But like, I didn't want to risk
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having to call them and bring shame upon the family by being
like I'm too drunk, come get me.Wow.
So you were. I didn't want to disappoint
them. That's powerful.
And so you left the party early,sober.
No, I never went to any parties.So you just didn't go?
No, because you would be too tempted.
Wow, you missed all the. Parties.
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I missed all the parties. I missed a lot of things.
You did miss a lot of things. Fine, what?
Who cares? Now look at now look at me.
I'm a miserable adult. I'm laughing because it's true.
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Yeah. We but you're and you're a
wonderful person. So I'm thinking if you had
become like, let's say you just put your chin down and like,
denied all of your desire, whatever it was that you needed
to rest, you needed a break. And you just went and got that,
went to Stanford with a full scholarship with football.
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And then and then what if, what if you got so lost that you
never found comedy and you'd abandoned yourself so far that
you did not? I mean, I'm worried that you
might not have survived. I'm would be a completely
different person, yeah. But I don't think you would be
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you. You would be.
What would you be that? Would you be an arrogant?
Maybe you would have attracted awoman that didn't really love
you but was just wanted to be with somebody who's a Pro
Football player. Oh yeah, I'd have one of those
bleach blonde MAGA wifes, probably, yeah.
So that that's where you would be and the and I'm telling you
you, you wouldn't have the the doughnut experience of the sex
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offering. Yeah, no, that's part of my
traumedy too. I don't.
Know, yeah, I, well also I probably would be in like, I'm
not in the best physical shape now.
I mean, I probably should start worrying about that now that I'm
almost 40. But like, my junior year I had
this really bad spondylothius inmy back.
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Wow. Yeah.
And I healed up and went back toplaying, and they gave me a
regimen of physical therapy and I was like, ah, dad, I'm not
going to do that anymore. So you could have been
paralyzed, you know, so if you play the what if game I got, I
think as an equal opportunity you have to go.
I might have had this the MAGA wife this heartless like just
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arm candy that wants a Pro Football player.
OK, that's best case. And then 10 millions of dollars
or you could have been that spondyliasis.
I know and I'm I was an ortho nurse so I'm embarrassed the.
Way you have to look at it, the way I understand it is so you
know you have like your spinal column and you have those little
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like wing bones that are on the side and they all fuse your
spinal column into a column. Yes I have broken some of those
and some of my spinal column wasshit like it was like a a set of
coasters but some of the cylinder is off center.
Wow, that is a very good description.
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So, but that impinges your spinal cord.
Yeah, if something goes wrong, it severs.
I could die or be paralyzed. OK, so I see we got to trust, we
got to trust your path on this because that you could literally
be in a wheelchair right now andyou're not.
You're in a very uncomfortable green chair, which that might at
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least you're not in Grandma's phone chair, her telephone
chair. It it literally is a, a little
old woman's chair that I'm like,here, have a seat, Mitch, I
didn't recognize you're 6 foot six.
You should be able to sit in Grandma's telephone chair.
That's like where Grandma would,you know, be like Myrtle's on
the phone. Let me you know.
That's exactly right. It was Evelyn.
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Evelyn Banning. Evelyn Banning.
Barbara Stanwick and I used to take the Charlie.
Yeah, and how is it now? How's your spine now?
Oh well, I turned 38 a couple weeks ago and the day before I
got out of bed and I wrenched myback so hard that I could not
walk. Almost like I could walk, but it
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was like shooting pain. Yeah, I think you you definitely
need to learn how to start taking care of Mitch.
It's too late. No, it isn't.
It's not too late. Please join me at a recovery
meeting. If not at a recovery meeting,
just join me right now. And you matter.
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And you got to trust that like, OK, I'm going to get, I know I'm
going to appeal to your Catholic.
Don't make me cry. OK, I'm going to appeal to your
Catholic side. Like I truly think God gave you
a gift and we need to share it with more people and we need to
let that out. And it's not about pride.
It's about honoring a gift givento you to help other people.
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Because when I, like I told you and I meant it when I see you,
there's a lightness. You have a light that comes
through your eyes. That is, it's wonderful.
Well. Thank you.
I, I you are. I want you to see that in the
mirror sometime. I'm working on it.
It's hard for me. I don't know, it goes back to
(51:28):
what you were saying. Like I have a lot, like I have
so many videos of jokes and whatnot, but I'm afraid to put
them up because one, what if some Dick head sees this on
Instagram and then they steal myjoke?
Furthermore, what you were talking about earlier where it's
just like I can't, I can't handle the negative comments.
(51:49):
Well, I mean. I want to be loved.
OK, so man, if we could be liberated, this would be amazing
if we could just like I don't care what people think of me.
It it you know that whole adage it what people think of me is
none of my business, right? Dude, I am not there.
I got to be honest. There are comments I've seen on
(52:10):
some of the YouTube. YouTube has the most trolls.
We you are proven funny. We have nothing to prove.
In Colorado, we don't know what it's like.
OK. All right, Michael.
Sorry, I don't mean that you're trying to jazz me up.
And I'm, I'm like, don't say nice.
Things OK well I love that you're just like going to take
care of yourself this way but I want to get you outside of
(52:33):
Colorado on some stages me too. And I want to set up a a path
for you like a way for you to take a break from a day job.
I think there's a lot of ways toget creative to take like a six
month break and figure out a wayto do a tour, like plan the tour
in advance so that you can take a break and go really go do it
(52:56):
so that you get to see you are funny in every state in AI think
you. I can't think of a state like I
I've played almost every state. I can't think of a state where
you would not play well. Well, I, I would love to try,
but also I don't know. So we're in agreement.
You're going to burn down the place I work and.
(53:17):
Yeah, if you give proper notice,they have time to find a
replacement. Nobody's going to be as good as
I. Am.
No, but they won't be. That's true, but.
I wish I had that attitude for my stand up instead of me doing
paperwork. Nobody's going to be as good as
I am. But you know, and the truth is,
nobody's going to be as good as you are at being you.
(53:38):
At being me. That's what I meant, yeah.
But that's true. OK, So right now there's nowhere
that people can go see your comedy like online.
I have a YouTube page. OK, one of my videos is private
right now. It's the Hot Pocket joke.
Oh my God, I love it so much I. Should.
Like can we can we make it available if?
(54:00):
So this I did the gateway show have you.
It's where you do a like it's a weed smoking show.
Oh no, I so you do you do a sober set and then they have an
intermission where they get you stoned to the bone and then you
come back and do a a stone set. Oh wow.
It's very fun. Shout out Billy Anderson.
(54:26):
I had a really good sober set and then I came back and I did
the hot. It was like the first time I did
the Hot Pocket joke as a long form thing because it was like
right after 51st jokes. So it's like a 5 or 6 minute
(54:47):
bit. Yeah, it's like 6 minutes.
If you want to play it in its entirety, you can.
I give you that permission. Really.
Yeah, OK. There was a box of doughnuts
back there and there's only one left and we were all trying to
(55:11):
out polite each other and until Big Daddy Cool decided to make a
move. All right, It's not all fun and
games when you're a Stoner. It's not all fun and games.
You got to watch out for shit. Case in point, I don't know if
(55:31):
you've heard this news, but did you know that Hot Pockets no
longer come with a crisping sleeve?
I know this is the perfect fucking audience because every
other audience I've told that to, they're just like Hot
(55:52):
Pockets. Someone in the front row was
aghast. Like they just found out about
911. What?
Yeah, they don't come with the the crisping sleeve anymore,
which is weird. I found out about this in late
(56:12):
December of last year. I opened the box and I was like
where the fuck? Are the sleeps?
I called hot pockets because I thought I got a defective box.
I was so ready to fucking carrying it up on the phone.
This is my Karen stance by the way.
(56:37):
But no, I I went on the Internet.
I confirmed with Reddit they do not make sleeves for the fucking
hot pockets anymore. But so whatever.
I was hungry. I threw it in the microwave.
So you do it for 2 minutes. And what they don't tell you is
that the crisping sleeve is vital to the Hot Pocket process.
(56:57):
They probably discontinued it because it was giving everybody
ultra cancer or whatever. It was made out of a substance
that they found out of a meteor.And they would synthesize the
sleeves. But so when you microwave a
naked Hot Pocket, it comes out all floppy.
(57:22):
And I said absolutely not, I don't want got a flaccid hot
pocket in my mouth. I'm about to eat this breaded
envelope full of rat meat and experimental cheese.
It better be rock fucking hard in my mouth.
(57:47):
So I ate the flock pocket in December.
It was gross. Then some time pass the
holidays, You know, the holidaysare always weird.
I had a bad New Year's the past couple of New Year's.
I went out, I was with friends, I did a New Year's kiss.
(58:07):
It was fucking awesome. This year was different, very
low key. I felt very bad about the
general state of everything. Had one of those bad brain New
Year's, you know, where your brain's like, hey, you know, all
your friends, they secretly hateyou and your and your other part
of your brains. Like that's obviously true.
That's that's so I was at home, was alone.
(58:31):
I said happy New Year to myself.And then I was like, I'm so
hungry. The only fucking thing in my
fridge, Hot pockets. I was like, God damn it, that's
going to be my first sustenance of 2025.
So I I pulled the box out and I was like, I remember from
(58:58):
December. I was like, I do not want the
first thing in 2025 is to wagglea fucking limp hot pocket into
my gullet at 1:00 AM. So I looked on the back of the
box. They tell you microwave or the
conventional oven. What am IA fucking scientist
now? I'm not going to place a single
(59:20):
hot pocket in the real oven on the center of the rack.
Go fuck yourself. So I decided for toaster oven.
Toaster oven. Threw it in there, tranked it
up. I got high for the first time in
2025 and I left it in there for like 25 minutes.
(59:48):
So here's here's what they also don't tell you about this
crisping sleeve that it gives the Hot Pocket the portability
so you can bring it to your mouth, right?
So I went to touch the Hot Pocket.
I was like, OK, I'm not going tograb this.
(01:00:08):
I'm going to be a fancy bitch. The first thing in 2025.
I'm going to eat it on a plate with a fork and knife.
So I'm, I'm in the dark like 1 and I'm just, I'm sawing this in
Hot Pocket and I'm like, look, Iwasted 15 years of my life doing
(01:00:33):
comedy. This is this is it for me.
This is I peeked and I was like,I'll never tell another joke
again. I forked my my sawed off piece
of Hot Pocket and I fit into it.And the second thing that
happened to me on 2025 was that I chipped my tooth on a Hot
Pocket everybody. But hey, this was a lot of fun.
(01:00:56):
2025 is good. Again, everybody.
Thank you everyone. I'm Mitch Jones.
I got to get out of here. Bye.
I have so much confidence on stage, but then you talk to me
outside, I'm like, sorry for breathing.
It's true. I just feel like we need to get
you connected to you. I need to realign my chakras.
(01:01:18):
Yeah, that's what it is. TuneIn again.
Next time when Mitch comes back in a year, totally different
chakra alignment, different energy as far as confidence goes
off stage. Same bad time, same bad channel.
Thanks, Mitch. Thanks for having me appreciate
it and answer. Bye.
(01:01:41):
I want to thank my guest, Mitch.Jones.
Thank you for being so vulnerable and open and honest.
Contact Mitch at comic Mitch Jones on Instagram.
Go support him September 17th atComedy Works in the.
Finals of the new faces. Competition come out to
Headstrong on September 5th at the Bug Theater.
Support medical research for women, for female health.
(01:02:06):
Come out and see that show. It's going to be fantastic.
You can always find information at my link tree, which is
actually linked into my website nancynorton.tvnancynorton.televisionitsyeahjustatvnancynorton.tv.
And I want to take my son Nathaniel Norton for the music
loop. I want to.
Thank you the listener for beingon this Co healing journey.
(01:02:30):
Kind of normalizes things when we all are honest with each
other. I really like that.
I will be back here uploading another episode as soon as
possible in the meantime, no matter what.
Keep. Laughing.
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