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get weird because it's really what we do these days,
and not just because. Look, one of the things about
the getting weird part is, like I say, it's one,
it's sort of taking the ideas to the extreme and
wondering about the things we don't know yet as yet
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undiscovered science. Okay, beyond that, it's a I don't know.
It's one of those tantalizing things about the nature of
reality itself that we do wonder what we're missing, and
we feel it. There's that intuition aspect within us that
really kind of says, you know, there's like I get it,
but also there's some other things here that might make
some different level of sense if we think about it
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just a little bit differently. And that's what troubled minds is,
and just a it's a great time to actually drop
all the disclaimers. All the disclaimers do apply. There's no
truth to be found here. I don't deal in truth
like like I always say, make fun of the political
types that I always want to tell you what the
truth is. They know somehow they know what all the
truth is. I don't. I defer truth entirely. And there's
no truth to be found here. If you're looking for truth,
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you're going to be highly disappointed. This is ideas. This
is sort of taking our world and our realm, mythology,
folklore and everything else and kind of building it into
a Marvel's what if. And that's really it. No truth,
just a wild speculation. I like to call it a conspiracy.
What do I call it conspiracy theater or something to
that degree of the mind's eye. Right, there's a bunch
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of different ways you can describe that. But anyway, so
I was thinking tonight, I was going through a lot
of the articles and just kind of seeing what made
some sense for today, because you know, it is early Halloween,
or not not Halloween, but early October, and we have
not just that, we have that beautiful harvest moon in
the sky, which is the super moon of October. It's
hitting in twenty twenty five right now, it's going to
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be over the next three days. It's going to be
probably the most amazing moon you've seen all year long. Now,
not only that it is the harvest moon, and the
harvest moon, of course is heavily equated with not just
the autumn equinox, but then of course moving into Sioyen
and Halloween. Now we've talked about this in the past
quite a lot, but it is a strange thing to
consider that the moon itself isn't what it seems, and
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you know, there's different ways to really quantify that. But
we're going to take a look at it in a
bunch of different ways, sort of maybe ancient ritual magic.
We're going to look at lycanthropy, which of course means
where wolves where wolves. One of my favorites, and not
just that, the other ideas that kind of come along
with that, the old ideas of this and why sort
of our ancestors recognize the moon as some sort of
sacred space or sacred object and we're just like not, now,
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come on, It's like, you know, it's just a rock
in the sky or whatever. And yeah, that's where we start.
And I'm calling this, of course forgotten frequencies frequencies of
the Moon. Of course, memory transformation and the artificial moon.
We'll talk about that as well, because if you guys
remember back in the day, I can't remember which mission,
it was, one of the Apollo missions, they had a
craft that they dropped down onto the Moon and it
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hit and made the ringing like a bell sound.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Right.
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I can get the exact details on that in conspiracy lore.
It's one of those things that's always talked about constantly
and continually and that realm so I probably don't have
to repeat it. I'm pretat t in the choir here,
and you guys know exactly what I'm talking about. But
it makes me wonder about not just the moon in
the context of, like I said, a sort of a
magical aspect and how it draws the tides and has
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this effect on the biology of not just people on Earth,
but the entire biological process of what happens on Earth itself,
the entire planet. And yeah, so a lot of ways,
a lot of ways to tackle us, a lot of
ways to get to it. But I'll read it from
the right up again. The right up is very good
if you guys are interested in some of these larger ideas.
Sometimes we get to these, sometimes we don't, but it
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all right, And I'll read from that because that's probably
the best way to do this instead of me and
rambling on. But tonight we're talking to were wolves. Tonight
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we're talking sort of the magic of the moon, ancient
and modern, and of course not just that, the idea
that maybe the moon itself has been suggested to be
an artificial agent somehow a consciousness I don't know, something
that actually has been really tugging and pulling our consciousness
as people and collectively as well over the years, over
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the millennia. That kind of rolls into this idea. This again,
this philosophical construct is what I like to call these.
But anyway, so that puts us about where we need
to be. Sorry, I started just to smidulates. My board
broke right before we started. The microphone wasn't working. I
had to reboot a thing anyway, So sorry about that. Anyway,
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here and some of the pieces that inspired the conversation tonight.
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But I'm want to read this and get the details
correct from again as cited by USA Today, follow us
here and October is bringing us a super moon in
the first week of the month. Hell yeah, on Monday,
October sixth. That will be tomorrow, So when the podcast hits,
that will be tonight for you guys. The supermoon will
take over the sky the same night that the drag
coned drag cond how you say that media shower is
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set to begin. According to NASA, while October's moon, also
known as the Harvest Moon, may be too bright to
allow people to enjoy the meteor shower fully, the supermoon
is still an incredible sight to see, and the moon
will look around thirty percent brighter and up to fourteen
percent larger. Great my camera quote quote. It's an annual
worldwide event when moon enthus has come together to enjoy
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our natural satellite blah blah blah, all the things. Anyway,
so there you go, and it's gonna it's going to
be in the night sky for the next three days.
So I want to point that out that there's going
to be some prime moon watching space going on, uh
starting tomorrow night. Of course, it's going to be out there,
big and lovely tonight as well, but in the next couple,
uh couple evenings, we're going to get a couple three evenings,
we're going to get a celestial show of the moon
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in full effect. So I just wanted to point that
out to make sure everybody knew that, yeah, it's time.
It's not it's Halloween time.
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Here we go.
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Okay, so straight to the right of here. The human
body remembers things the conscious mind is forgotten. This isn't
mystical speculation anymore. It's documented biological fact. Our cells carry information,
our muscles store experiences, and our nervous systems respond to
environmental cycles in ways that science is only beginning to understand.
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But what if this biological memory isn't entirely natural? What
if it's been programmed by something external, something that's been
influencing human consciousness for thousands of years. And we'll go
to D and D for a second here, but in
Dungeons and Dragons, spellcasters use what are called somatic components.
These are specific hand gestures and body movements required to
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channel magical energy into reality. And I always cite this
because it's one of the perfect modern ways to look
at it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Is.
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Think doctor Strange right in the Marvel Universe, the MCU,
He's always, you know, flashing his hands around and doing
stuff like that. And so that's The cool part of
this is that we're looking at I shall just read
this instead of I'm rambling on trying to fix the camera.
Do two things and once anyway. So okay, So the
game designers didn't invent this concept out of thin air,
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the somatic spell casting. They pulled it from historical accounts
of actual ritual practices where practitioners believed that precise physical
movements could serve as conduits for other worldly forces. What's
interesting is how these gaming mechanics accidentally preserve ancient knowledge
about using the human form as a living receips for
non physical transmissions. And of course, in that capacity, we're
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talking about the moon itself. We're talking about the power
of the moon. We're talking about how all these ideas
kind of come together and influence us in ways that
we can measure. And there's a lot of ways we
can actually currently measure this, and I'll get to those
momentarily here. But the whole point of this is to
look at this as usual and wonder what we don't
know yet. As I was describing, and in some of
these ways, it brings me to howling at the full
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moon right the and the as I always say, the
eers fill up and the cops are busy on a
full moon night, and it is very it could be
one of the most basic, basic versions of this, which
is simply that we have a situation going on where
it's it's you know, it's light out kind of at
night because of the full moon, and people are out,
you know, on the prowl or whatever like that type
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of thing. And you know, it could be as simple
as that, but otherwise it certainly has that that mythological
or folkloric idea that it's not as simple as that,
because they have these these ancient tales of are they
wear wolves?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
People actually changing into these actual wolf like creatures and
wreaking havoc on the population while they're doing the thing
and while the full moon is in effect. And so
that to me as always makes me scratch my chin
and go, Okay, So I do wonder what we don't
know about this stuff today? You know, like I said,
I got a huge list here of pretty cool stuff
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that we do know about how the moon affects not
just us, but different entities across the world, different other
animals and the oceans and everything else. There's an incredibly
huge list of what is actually happening with this. But
the problem, of course is that we know some of this.
But as usual, the most fascinating stuff to me lies
in the fact that we don't know a ton about this.
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We know some of it, and sort of our ancestors
had the ancient ideas that kind of maybe did stick
or or don't, because of course, it just depends on
who you ask. Does anybody believe in vampires and wear
wolves in twenty twenty five? You know, I mean, maybe
maybe not. I don't really know, but I speak for
myself and not people in a broad swath like that.
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But anyway, you get the idea, and back to the
right of peer. So archaeological evidence shows that moon worship
ceremonies across multiple cultures involved deliberate physical movements, specific hand positions,
and choreographed gestures performed during optimal lunar phases. Okay, like
this right, waving your hands or whatever, striking a pose,
whatever this looks like. But these weren't random dances or
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meaningless rituals. They appear to have been sophisticated biotechnology, using
human biology as hardware to interface with something beyond our
normal sensory range. The practitioner. Practitioners understood something we've forgotten,
that our bodies can serve as intent as when positioned
and moved in specific ways. And that right there kind
of brings us to where we need to be when
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it comes to the idea of the moon and sort
of the ritual dance and the forests and all the
things we've talked about in the past, and sort of
that really kind of harkens to that old idea of
moon magic and moon ritual and of course not just that,
the veil fins as we're talking about all month, and
you know, as we march inexorably on toward Halloween here
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or all Hallow's Eve, this is the type of stuff
that really comes back into play because I don't know
anybody out there doing moon rituals right now, anybody out
there listening under the moon to troubled minds anyway. So
modern research confirms that human physiology responds dramatically to lunar cycles.
Our sleep pattern shift, hormone production fluctuates, and cellular repair
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mechanisms accelerate or decelerate based on moon phases. This isn't folklore,
it's measurable biological reality. Our DNA contains what scientists call
circadian rhythm genes, and these show distinct activation patterns during
different lunar periods. The question isn't whether the moon affects us.
The question is whether this effect represents natural evolutionary adaptation
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or in the troubled minds squench your mind's eye, a
type of idea installed programming somehow, And it does go
back to the moon, back to not just how the
moon draws the tides and all the rest of this.
Like I said, let me pull up this list and
read this stuff to you. Some of this stuff, you
guys may know. Some of it you may be astonished
to hear. I was reading through it as usual, and
I was like, damn, there's a lot of stuff here
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that we know about. Let me see if I can
find these Let's see. Okay, Okay, there we go, got it. Okay,
So anyway, we are taking your call tonight if you
guys want to be part of the conversation. James is out,
so there's some room in here if you guys want
to jump in. Not that he gobbles up Mike or anything,
but he's usually a very large help when he's on
the show, and he's not feeling well. Shout out James
out there. We're pulling for you. Feel better all the
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rest of that stuff, because I know it's difficult dealing
with your eyes and it's just a it's a brutal beat.
Have solace because I think there's help coming. There's at
least technological help, as I've been describing to you, to
where maybe you can keep the blindfold on a little
bit more and be more comfortable. Okay, anyway, so back
to this, shout out James, feel better, buddy. So the
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relationship between lenorcycles and terrestrial life is bah bah blah. Okay,
so we just said sleep in circadian rhythms, and so
the research revealed that around full moon periods, people experience
a thirty percent reduction in deep sleep. Okay again science,
Now take an extra five minutes to fall asleep and
sleep twenty minutes less per night. Okay. Why we're sheltered, right,
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we can turn the lights off and close the drapes,
so we're not really bothered by the light of the moon, right,
So what's going on with that? But anyway, remarkably, these
changes occur even when participants, as I said, cannot see
the moon, suggesting the influence operates through internal biological mechanisms
rather than simply increasing nighttime light exposure. This lunar sleep
modulation appears tied to melatonin regulation, and studies show that
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the melotonin levels, the hormone crucial for sleep initiations, decrease
during full moon periods. What the hell is that the
mechanism may involve ancient circa lunar rhythms, biological clocks with
approximately twenty nine point five day cycles that evolve to
synchronize with lunar phases, much like our well known twenty
four hour circadian rhythms. Anyway, so there's not to health
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and here there's a huge list of this stuff, cardiovascular
and physical effects, emergency services and hospitals. Like I said,
marine Life that this is some of the fascinating stuff
here that I didn't know. Of course, menstrual cycles. We've
talked about this quite a lot in the past. How
it sinks with the moon or does not is which
is fascinating. By the way, let me read this one
so before twenty ten. Actually, let's see that the recent
comprehensive research spanning twenty four years of menstrual data reveals
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that women's cycles can indeed synchronize with lunar phases, but
this connection has weakened significantly in the modern era. Ah
the synchronization was strongest in women with cycle links closest
to the lunar month at twenty nine point five days,
and occurred most frequently during winter solstices and lunar standstills,
when gravitational and light influences peak. Before twenty ten, menstrual
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onset aligned with full or new moons approximately twenty three
point six percent of the time. In younger women. However,
widespread artificial lighting has disrupted this synchronization, with the effect
now much weaker. So okay, so beyond that note, think
of it this way. You draw the drapes in your
fine in a dark room. You should have no ill
effects on your fleet from the moon, but it's still
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affecting you in that particular way. And in the so
in that sense, there's nothing you could do about it,
or it's cooked into us, as I like to say,
baked into our biology, and we're just kind of trying
to figure it out as we go. But in the
other hand, here now we have artificial light and this
link between menstrual cycles and the moon seems to be
fading and you know, kind of diminishing, even though these
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types of things seem like they should be able to
actually have an effect on you, regardless of the light
source or the artificial light. So it's weird that you
can measure it one way and say, okay, well this
doesn't bother you at all, and then it measured the
same way it does because artificial light is kind of
changing the way this works anyway. So that's where I'm at.
To my again, I'm calling this for gotten frequencies, memory transformation,
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and the artificial Moon. I got a huge list of
stuff that you may be surprised to hear that the
moon does affect. And not only that, what are the
things we're missing? Those are the questions. There's a ton
of questions here. But what do you know about this
moon cycle stuff? What do you think that we're actually missing?
What do you know about this artificial moon hypothesis. I'll
get to that a little bit later and read the
little blurbone where that came from. And like I said,
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I know you guys are very familiar with that story,
being you know, conspiracy weirdos yourselves, And I mean that
in the nicest way, but a ton of stuff here.
But as usual, one of the most basic and obvious
things to talk about tonight, because it is again the
first week of October and we're moving toward All Hallows
Eve and it is a harvest moon. It's very archetypal
in the sense of, well, okay, what would you expect
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to happen on a night like this or over the
next three nights, And obviously, very obviously, the one thing
to come to mind was the were wolf, the howl
of the wolf out in the dark, and you're not
sure exactly what it is. You're not exactly if it's
just a standard gray wolf or whatever, or a coyote
or whatever. But this goes back thousands of years. This
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is back into Greek mythol the idea of the werewolf.
And so there's a bunch of different ways you could
be turned into a werewolf, how you can kind of
have it be cured from it. We can get into
that stuff. Like I said, nonlinear, open ended is the
way we do this. So if you guys want to
be part of the conversation, that's the whole idea. Love
to hear your thoughts on this. What do you know
about like aanthropy being turned into a were wolf. What
do you know about these forgotten frequencies of the moon itself?
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What do you know about, as I'm calling it, memory
transformation and the idea of this artificial moon. Tons of
things to tie in here, tons of things to look
at and consider, and I do wonder. I do wonder,
And I've said this to you guys before too. I
noticed recently that it does affect my sleep, like I
just don't sleep well when there's a full moon. And
I didn't recognize it until a friend of mine pointed
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it out for me, and he was like, hey, uh,
it's a full moon. And I'm like, that doesn't I mean,
isn't that like just a women thing, right, you know,
Being a dumb, dumb guy myself, I'm just like, uh,
He's no, I don't think so. And so I looked
into it, of course, and yeah, as the things I'm
telling you tonight, this affects all of us and bizarre ways,
and it does now now that I'm watching I'm watching
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the lunar cycles when I recognize I'm not getting enough sleep,
and sure enough, you bet you're bippy that when the
moon is out in its highest and most bright form.
I just don't sleep that well. It's weird. It's a
weird thing. I don't know, like, how do you quantify
that other than like I said, it's it's baked into
our physiology and has been for over thousands of years.
So anyway, that's where my mind is at tonight. I
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New Zealand. Tonight's we're taking your calls as we look
to the forgotten frequencies of the Moon. Could ancient rituals,
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lunar cycles and hidden programming truly shape our bodies, minds,
and even destinies. Is the Moon more than just a
rock in the sky? Of course, Tonight's we ask if
these possibilities could be real at all? And there you go.
Welcome back to the thing. I'd love to hear your
thoughts on this, and yeah, tons of stuff you get
to you. Like I said, I got massive lists of
all kinds of things, and let me read you this
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one because this one kind of spooked me a little bit,
or let's say not spook me. I'm a little old
to be spoked these days, even with weird stuff, but
the animal behavior when it comes to these the moon cycles,
and there's some stuff in here that I had no idea.
Let me be a little bit you guys may be surprised.
So terrestrial animals exhibit diverse lunar influence behaviors. Pet emergency
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visits increase by twenty three to twenty eight percent, so
even the vets are having their things during full moons,
though the exact mechanisms remain unclear. Doodle bugs or ant
lion larvae dig significantly larger trap holes during full moons,
possibly responding to increased prey activity. Again, another weird thing
that they've measured in this is science. Large mammals show
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seasonal variations in lunar sensitivity. Deer hunting guides report that
feeding patterns shift based on moon phases, with bright overnight
periods reducing morning activity as deer feel secure feeding at night.
This creates a roller coaster effective activity levels throughout the
lunar cycles, and of course it brings out the werewolves
who are hungry for the deer. What's this other one?
The ocean one is where this gets even more strange,
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which again surprised me a little bit. I didn't know
that this level of weird stuff was happening. So let's
see that the large mammals. Okay, I'll just read straight
through traditional lunar agriculture practice for millennia gains limited but
intriguing scientific support. Recent studies show that coffee plants experience
massive gene expression changes under full moonlight, with stressed response
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genes and photoreceptors significantly affect it. Mustard seedlings exposed to
full moonlight for three consecutive nights showed enhanced growth parameters. Yeah, right,
tons of stuff, And I think the more we're going
to measure this stuff, the more we're going to recognize
that the moon has been literally maybe that hidden hand,
of those hidden control mechanisms I'm always talking about forever,
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it's been like us without the moon, we're probably not here.
We're not here, certainly in our form we are today,
but maybe we're not here at all, and that becomes
a weird part. Let's see, bu bu, where's that one?
I was looking for the one because there's a really
strange one regarding hold on. Let me find this one moment, please,
one moment please. When you got to ten thousand pages
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of notes, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Okay, So the ocean showcases the Moon's most dramatic biological effects,
mass coral spawning events involving over one hundred species simultaneously
occur with remarkable precision. A few days after full moons.
The corals use light sensitive neurons to detect moonlight levels,
triggering synchronized game meat release that overwhelms predators through sheer numbers.
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Marine worms demonstrate even more precise loner timing, with sex
calls maturing during full moons booty call Hey full moons,
and spawning occurring exactly two weeks later during new moons.
This extraordinary coordination suggests sophisticated biological mechanisms for detecting and
respet into lunar phases. We'll get back to the fish
in a second, but anyway, you see what I mean,
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it's the more you dig into this, the more there's
just stuff that you never expected is happening in these cycles.
And it's not just people. It's not just you know
the idea of the ancient werewolf. This is the entire
animal kingdom, even below the waves, which is wild to
me that things can be that synchronized in a larger aspect. Anyway, Okay,
so back to this, I'm calling this forgotten frequencies memory
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transformation in the artificial moon. What do you know about
any of this as usual. The whole point is to
kind of bring you know, seven or eight or ten
different ways to look at look at this and then
talk about whichever one seems interesting to you guys. So
back of this, back to the right. So, if consciousness
can be stored at the cellular level, and if our
muscles carry memory independently of our brain, then specific physical
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movements might access archived information from previous programming cycles. This
could explain why certain yoga poses, martial arts forms, and
ritual dances produce altered states of consciousness that transcend what
should be possible through me physical exercise. The body is
accessing data that the mind doesn't know exists. And of
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course that goes to all manner of stuff, not just
martial arts and yoga and the yogis of old and
you know, this type of stuff tai chi. This is
what it's about. That's somatic spell casting, the pose, the
you know, evoking energy that the mind forgets but the
body does remember, and sort of finding ways to kind
of bring this about again. But the important part of this,
at least, let's say the most the most compelling part
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of this is to me is the the the moon
drawing out the monster in us, drawing out that that
not just you know, the cops are super busy, the
emergency rooms fill up, and again the pet ears fill up.
I didn't know that either. But the most, the thing
that draws me to this the most to even talk
about this tonight, is that werewolf. The werewolf aspect of
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all of these things kind of coming through the moon
cycle and people recognizing all the way back to the
ancient ways, that there is something happening here, not just
to people, but to the entire animal kingdom and maybe
even the gods themselves, as we suggest, you know, as
I brought about the Olympians or whatever it was, right,
So that becomes one of the questions here, and what
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do you know about it? Do you think there is
some level of actual lunar control happening that makes us
more or less I don't know, kind of under its
boot for lack of a better term here in a moment.
But yeah, look, I don't know. As usual, that stuff
to me is endlessly fascinating when you kind of look
at the folklore and then look at today and consider
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what's happening with these things, Because as I read you
just a few examples there that there's all kinds of
stuff happening in terms of the lunar cycles themselves and
how we react to them. So anyway, like I said,
it is a call in show, nobody on the line.
That's my fault for not painting a compelling tale. But
I'd love to hear what you guys think about this.
What do you know about the moon? What do you
know about the artificial moon? He's forgotten frequencies? How much
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does it actually affect us? What should we expect to
find in the next five to ten years or twenty
years with this acceleration we're talking about, And how spooky
will it get in terms of what we know about
the moon and its influence on us. Let's see, Okay,
good good, I think we're good. Okay, So now here's
as I was saying, So here's where things get a
little unsettling. This is straight from the write up. Like cancer,
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peace stories from cultures around the world describe transformation processes,
processes that follow remarkably consistent patterns, violent body contortions, bone shifting,
skin changes, and complete personality disillusion during full moon periods,
full on psychosis right, full on werewolf rather than supernatural fiction.
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These accounts might document what happens, and this is drinking
the maybe juice here might document what happens when untrained
humans accidentally trigger lunar interface systems without proper preparation. The
transformation goes wrong because the biological hardware can't handle the
consciousness download or whatever's happening with regard to the moon itself. Okay,
(31:01):
and so I'll read this and then what we'll go
to the call here. So ancient shamanic traditions developed elaborate
protocols for what they called wolf transformation or bear possession.
These involve specific plant medicines, controlled environments, preparatory fasting, and
guided ritual movements or somatic spell casting. The practitioners weren't
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trying to become literal animals. They were attempting safe interface
with non human consciousness matrices that required careful biological preparation.
Modern werewolf attacks might occur when people accidentally activate these
systems without the protective frameworks shamans once maintained. And that's
the core of this tonight, that's the core of the discussion,
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is that maybe we're sort of accidentally invoking these ancient
ways without those those preparations without recognizing what they truly are.
And then of course it brings to mind the idea
of the artificial moon, and does the moon have its
own consciousness in some way back to panpsychism and that
sort of idea that everything is conscious. And if we're
talking about the moon and having its outsized influence on
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us and the Earth itself, wouldn't that be some level
of super consciousness in the sky? Maybe maybe not like
I said, drinking the maybe juice? You guys tell me
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(32:28):
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sounds like it might be nothing nothing nothing, sounds like
(32:50):
it might be the discord update. If you want to
update that real quick and come back, we'll put you
right back on. But I can't cannot hear you not
coming through Test one too. Looking forward to matt has
to say he's a. He's always on the game when
it comes with this stuff. Are you there? Test one two?
(33:14):
MAT's hell, okay, yeah, that's probably it. Remember, guys, if
you're gonna call in, do update the discord before you do,
because if they update several times a week, and if
I'm on the new version, you're not. Everything breaks. And
this is the type of stuff. It took me. It
took me months and even dare I suggest embarrassing the
years to figure it out. But yeah, that's what was
happening for a long time for tech issues for me.
But uh, yeah, Matt's olf test. Okay, I'm gonna just
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then I'll just shut up and let you keep on trucking.
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Thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Welcome back to Trouble Minds. I'm Michael Strange. Let us
continue show we Okay, so forgotten frequencies what I'm calling this.
We're talking about the moon, not just the artificial moon,
that theory that has been around the conspiracy cycles and circles,
but also beyond that, the idea of lycanthropy and maybe
it being sort of a somatic spell casting thing that
we accidentally do to ourselves that maybe not necessarily turn
(35:34):
into a werewolf per se, because that's you know, that's
a stretch. Maybe, I guess it depends on you know,
if maybe you've seen one, then call me. I want
to know. But it seems like in the old old
ways that this type of stuff was a little bit
more common at least in terms of people believing in
these ideas. Now does that mean that they're wrong, of
course not. It just means that maybe there's an interpretation
(35:57):
aspect to it that the modern space can understand. And
in this case, like I've been saying, is that maybe
it brings out the monster in the person. Right, Maybe
that Youngian archetype of the shadow is more drawn out
during a full moon for some reason, and the worst
of you gets the best of you, if you know
what I mean. So I don't know, like I said,
I've never had, you know, luckily, behavioral issues in that regard,
(36:18):
But you get what I'm saying here is maybe there's
something to this that is a little bit more scientific
than it seems when it comes to these discussions that
are a little more esoteric. Matt, if you're you're up first,
If you want to jump in here, I saw you
left and came back. I'll invite you. And then the
Roberts got his hand up. If you need a little
more time or whatever, we'll go to the Robert and
then you afterward. So you tell me. But MAT's how
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was first, and we'll go to him in a second.
But yeah, so so also someone of mine tonight. A
lot of ways to look at this, a lot of
ways to consider it. And that's exactly the point of
this is kind of fract fracturing it into multiple ways
and ideas to look at and consider. As I always say,
what the hell are we actually missing? Seven O two
ninety five seven one zero three seven click the discord
link of Troubleminds dot org just like this. Matt's how,
Matt in California? What was their brother Temple of the
(37:02):
al how are you tonight? Just on mute and go
right ahead, and thanks for jumping through the hoops there,
because I know discord can be a pain in the
ass sometimes, but it is super good with the audio quality.
So welcome back. Just on mute and you're on trouble minds.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Hi, Mike, can't hear me?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, loud and clear. Thank you for jumping through those hoops.
Welcome to the joint. How are you, sir? Go right ahead?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Sorry man, yeah, man. I called a good show tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I called to talk about the moon, and I'm looking
at the moon right now. It's pretty awesome. But I
called talk about moon magic and talk about something that
I think we're missing in that looking at back at
history and looking at the ancients, and the ancients they worshiped,
They worshiped the sun and the moon, but they followed
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the moon. And I'm learning more and more about Stonehenge
because i'm those Zacharaiic Tension books and on the part
about stone Hinge and the astrological clock that stone Hinge is.
Some say that stone Hinge is like a computer, but
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they actually you know, in this book Zacharaiz Tension, they
break down how stone Hinge was made and how kind
of how it was made, and of course it's a mystery,
but they broke down how they built it and how
they built it to be a clock. It's a giant clock,
but it's a moon clock, not a sun clock. And
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so it makes me wonder about how the ancients followed
the moon the twenty eight days and not the sun.
And the more and more I research it, the more
and more I learn about it, the more I find
out is things like we have twelve months, but there's
thirteen moons, And I'm understanding how whoever invented this calendar
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we have? So they invented this new calendar, the Great
Gorshen calendar, the Julius Caesar calendar. It was all built
by men, and I think it might it may be
built to throw us off from our natural cycles. I
think we should have thirteen months. Doing all the math
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and finding out all the things about how they added months, right,
so Julius Caesar July Augustus, he wanted his own months,
so August. When you break down those months and you
add the two months from the twenty eight days that
we're supposed to have and just following it. But then
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I always wondering when I was a kid, I thought
about this when I was a kid, how come you
have the burr months where we're going to the September months, right,
So you have sept September, sept that's seven or but
that's the ninth month, and oct October that's ten or
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that's you know, oct is eight, but it's the tenth month.
And then November Nueva that's you know, that's but it's
the eleventh month. And then December decade that's ten, but
it's the twelfth month. How come they changed it? How
what did they do?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Then?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
What did they move to make it to where they
added those months? And they changed things and they didn't
think we would question why those months are like that,
why they're called that, But they're not adding up. The
numbers don't add up.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, it is weird. So you're right, mathematically, just real
quick for those that don't know, as he's describing, if
you remove all the weird extra days, and we have
enough days for thirteen total month, twenty eight day months,
right and so, but instead it has been sort of
disjointed in thirty days has September, April, June, and November
and February has twenty eight days, and it's it's just
this big disaster of it's not the same. But why though,
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because it does seem as you're describing a little bit
like the Frankenstein calendar named after these these ancient power brokers,
you know, going back thousands of years, which is super weird.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
You're right, yeah, and it's sorry to say it, but
they made the They made it so we knew when
to pay taxes. But so they made all these days
and then they changed it. But I believe that the
twenty eight days, you know, and talk about the men's
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recycle of the twenty eight days of a women's cycle,
I think that's with us power there, and I think
they were trying to take that away from us or
hide it from us. And then they made us have
a solar calendar, you know, a men's solar calendar, and
so I don't know, man, I think it's weird how
the ancients worshiped the moon and followed the days of
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the moon and had thirteen moons the dates that we
do that we have now in the calendar we have now,
I think it's artificial. And Mike following you on this
on the story.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Here, Yeah, no, yeah, absolutely, because and there's a ton
of ways to do this and so as usual too,
if you look at it like you're describing I wonder
if it was too symmetrical for some reason, and I
don't know, like not just for taxes as you described,
I hate that word, but also beyond that that maybe
there was a way that they were sort of tinkering
with this magic, this as I'm calling it tonight, you know,
(42:23):
the moon magic, but the idea of this forgotten frequency
that they've they've kind of franknsided it intentionally for these reasons,
and who knows that maybe the ritual could be done
every month for all thirteen months, right, And so this
becomes like a really weird question of why these things
happen historically, and we know why, but also beyond that,
where there's sort of these maybe occult reasons that nobody
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knows about or nobody talks about because it's a little
too too weird, little too woo for them, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, it's the more I learned about how the ancients
followed the moon and looking and of course always to
look at look at stone hinge and look at how
it works and break it down, and it was a
computer to tell us the moon's and how the Earth
and the moon shifted and changed, and how we're on
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the elliptical, and it it like tell it's like a clock.
It told time for the ancients. It was a like
a observatory for them. Why did they take so much
time and put so much effort into building these things?
And it's not just Stone Hinge, it's other right, other
things around the world that line up to like giant
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monolists that line up to the summer solstice and the
winter solstice or the equinoxes. You know, why did they
take all this time to show us these things? Why
did they take all the time to build these massive
temples or crazy like stone Hinge. Why did they didn't
just build it because they wanted to. They built it
for a reason, and it was to tell us like
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the time, and tell time and tell us how they
you know, because they weren't watching Netflix and looking at
their phones. They were looking at the stars. And so
they use the stars to tell how, you know, when
to play crops. And it just amazed me how I
figured it all out. And we're here kind of the
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stars are going over us and we don't really care. Yeah,
but the ancients knew these calendars.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Go ahead, yeah, no it is And you're right, you're
spot on and back to Graham Hancock, and he's always
saying that you know where he the species with amnesia,
and this is part of it, part of those lunar
cycles of the ancient ways and maybe sort of the
more more symmetrical lunar calendars that where we've intentionally Frankenstein
and kind of maybe warped in some capacity that maybe
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it does affect us in a certain way. I wonder.
I mean, we don't have enough data in that regard
to kind of do a scientific sort of extrapolation, because
there's no way you'd have to, you know, have way
more than we have access to, because you'd have to
do sleep cycles of ancient people and things like this,
which is just impossible at this point. But you get
what I mean, maybe there is something to the changing
of the calendar as you're describing that affects us in
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ways that is maybe more chaotic. That makes a ton
of sense to me. And those ancient rituals you're describing
with not just a Stonehenge but other of those ancient monolists.
I mean, a lot of this makes sense for harnessing
this power as we're describing these forgotten frequencies. The spot
on man, you're all over it. What else you got?
Speaker 4 (45:28):
That's always want to say thank you and thank you
for doing the shows. And I want to say go
outside and look at the moon the next couple of
days and research stone Hinge more. I think a lot
of us, you know, it's an old it's an oldie,
but a goodie with a stone hinge. It's a mystery
how they build it. But look at stone Hinge more,
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and look at how stone Hinge was a computer that
teaches us the moon phases. And let's get away from
this whole the way the instead of months, let's not
look at it as months. Let's look at it as
phases of the moon. And watch the phases of the
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moon more than what month it is, and you'll start
to see changes in your life, see changes how it changes.
It's not thirty days this month or thirty one days
this month, it's it's by the moon. Our calendar is broken.
And I think it's deliberate, but that's just that's my opinion.
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But just look at that, Just look that up.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, definitely, definitely all added to the list, tons of
stuff to get to and well, as you know, we're
doing like that sort of the Halloween series, and in
this case it's were Wolves to Night, sort of were
wolf Night. But as you as you recognize even in
sort of that that that paranormal space. There's so many
different ways to look at these these aspects, the granular
aspects I like to call them, when you say, okay,
were wolves are one thing, but then let's talk about
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this weird power of a radiating full moon, which which
again has been office gated by the calendars. He very
smartly pointed out firestar brother. I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yeah, and I think too about religions and people that
worship the moon. You know how they've kind of oh,
it's silly and it's funny and they twisted it. But
I think the moon has power and they don't want
us to know that power. Thanks for doing the show, Mike.
I'll be around for the next the Holloway episodes. Thank
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you guys.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
You night, all right, fantastic glad to hear from you tonight.
You are the best. You don't me love him. That's
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he's kind of coming through and as you see, he's
learning new things about all manner of stuff, and he's
also podcasting about it. So please go check it out.
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It is fantast He's also here on the radio station
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what this has always been about, in a fantastic call.
And he's right about the calendar. I didn't even think
about it in this sense tonight, But this is why
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a conversation with other minds, troubled minds, dare we say,
is much more rich because we're going to see sort
of blind spots in the things I'm bringing to the table,
or things that I hadn't considered yet and talk about them.
And that's exactly the point. And tonight we're talking about
were woes sort of in a more granular way forgotten frequencies,
memory transformation, and the idea of an artificial moon. What
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does it all mean? As usual, Look, no answers for me,
just questions, more questions. And the more I think about
this stuff, the more questions I have. And that's I
think when you're onto something, that's really the way things work,
because answers are cheap and easy because you can always
just sort of conclude early. Well, you know that's the answer,
but I'm not so sure with trillions and trillions of
data points, is quote the answer end quote as simple
(48:58):
as it seems. Love to hear your thoughts on this.
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Today we're talking the moon, not just the moon though,
sort of the moon in sort of this other way,
this harvest moon Halloween style away. I'm calling it forgotten
frequencies and memory transformation in this artificial moon idea. Now,
the artificial moon too doesn't have to necessarily be by
the way, the apollo version of this, which we'll get
to a brief you on that what that means it is,
(50:21):
and they're right up very briefly. But the thing is
that the artificial moon could be a consciousness aspect, right,
sort of as I said, sort of a panpsychism aspect
of what the moon might be, a super consciousness per se,
like the ultimate agregor. So I don't know, like just
just to let you know that I'm not not talking
about it literally necessarily, but also maybe not maybe and
(50:41):
maybe so so anyway, love to hear you guys thoughts
on this. Thanks for being patient friends, and let's go
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and click the discord link at troubleminds dot org. Thank
you guys for learning to use the discord. Welcome to
the joint. The Roberts in Pennsylvania. Welcome back and spend
a minute. How are user?
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Go right ahead, I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Great to hear your voice. What's on your mind? My man?
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Stinking about what?
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (51:06):
That's how UH got me thinking about you know, when
it came to standards, I was thinking, well, what have they?
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I knew they didn't have watches, So how do they
know what time to get up and what time to
go to bed?
Speaker 3 (51:24):
That's a good question, the chicken or the egg, because
I'll tell you what. And you know this too, like
when I said an alarm for an extended period of time,
like I wake up with the same day every day
on weekdays, even without the alarm, I just wake up anyway.
It's weird, but clearly there was some some mechanism in
place previous to that that wasn't based on an alarm
clock or a job. I guess I don't know it's
a it's a good point.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, we were out in the fields. They're you know,
plowing the fields or harvesting whatever. But how they know
what time it was to go to supper, Well, maybe
there was the old ring bell there that the wife
would the old fashioned super call in the supper. You know,
(52:08):
the even body is sixty percent water. So when we're
talking about the moon affecting the tides and we being
sixty percent water, that's probably has a lot to do
with how the moon affects us.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah, exactly, and how deeply that goes really becomes a
question tonight. And I think you hit the nail on
the head when it comes to that, because we're, you know,
whether we know it or not, we're sort of being
drawn in a direction, at the direction of the tides
within us, though it's sort of the ocean within us.
You're absolutely right, I think.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, many many I'm getting feedback here. Many moons ago,
I worked at a metal hospital and we all got
I had to get alert and ready whenever there was
a full moon, because whenever it's a full moon, that's
when the residents would start to act up.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, and this has been a thing that's been known forever,
Like I was saying, the hospitals and the cops like
they're super busy that night. They have to like schedule
for it, like they know this is going to be
a thing when I come from a family and exactly, yep, yep,
I come from a family of cops, matter of fact,
and so this is this is something they've talked about
for since I was a baby, So I was a
little kid. They were talking about this stuff, like they
were having people call out on the full moon because
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they didn't they didn't want to have to work because
they knew it was going to be a zoo that night.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Well, and of course the smart man knows to try
to avoid too much interaction with his well actually to
try to get away from his wife whenever there's a
full moon, because it has a real effect done with us.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Okay, I'll believe you. I'll just say a tread with
caution there because I'm not so sure the science on that,
but I follow you.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Well, we're talking about, you know, how the moon affects
people in mental hospitals and crime goes up. I think
that has a lot to do with with the mythology
of the were wolf.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yeah, which is what this is all about. Like it
it's crux, Like you take this entire conversation to its
archetypal primordial space, and it is the were wolf that
is sort of the drawing out that, you know, the
negative from the you know, young in shadow from within us,
but by the power of the moon, which is an
incredible thing.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
But I think that people back in the you know,
centuries ago, and they would see that their father or
their brother or whatever would start to get you know,
radical emotionally during the full moon that they misinterpreted that
is has evolving into a were wolf.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah. Absolutely, And like I said, it goes back for
a long time too. They there's an ancient Greek story
about Zeus turning somebody into as a punishment, Like I
can I have that here too. I can read that.
But I mean, yeah, you're right, this has been a
thing for a long time. And I do wonder, I
do wonder how much of this is well, I don't know,
it's it's blurry. Let's say, I think it's blurry when
you look at the historical aspect. But I think you're
(55:21):
spot on as usual.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
And are you going to get into whether the moon
is artificial or not. Yes, I saw that was part
of your pros there.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, we can so I kind of put it in
there as like I described so the consciousness of the
moon an artificial moon. But we don't have to get
into that or the other whatever you prefer. If you'd
rather talk about the apollo version of that, that's cool.
What's your take on that?
Speaker 1 (55:47):
I think that it's an artificial satellite. I think that
it was put thereby probably.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Some other.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
Extrestal civil day and that moved it there. You know,
either either they could pilot it from the from you know,
inside the hollow, or or it was just moved there.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
And I think it was to transform the Earth. What's
it called when they ah, what's it called when they
caused the you know, the planet to to degenerate, degenerate
the rass and flowers. What's it called?
Speaker 2 (56:32):
That just worked for it?
Speaker 1 (56:33):
I can't remember. There you got terraform, Uh, that it
was brought there in order to enable terraforming of the Earth.
I think that it might be something of a Martian
thing where you know, when that planet was going downhill.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
And you know the rich Tycoons escaped Mars, just like
they planned to escape Earth, you know, and go to Mars.
That that that they needed that they they were mining
gold there and they needed to terraform the Earth in
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order to be able to survive on that planet. And
they brought and it couldn't be done unless the Moon
was there because the Earth had to rotate in a
certain speed. Uh, all that stuff. Matter of fact, it's
it's it's it's exactly what Musk says is going to
you know, going to happen, uh with Mars. That he
(57:37):
has the plan of terror terraforming the Martian surface too.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Yeah, they're looking in a way to do it. And
you've heard this, We've talked about this in the past.
One of the ways they want to nuke the poles,
Like stop it, can we just stop thinking about nuke
and things. There's got to be a better way there.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
I don't think that would be necessarily. All you have
to all they have to do is is get the
magnetic shield back up there. You know, it puts and
put the ozone there and and because they lost its atmosphere,
that's all they really have to do is to reduce
that atmosphere. They wouldn't have to I am seeing. I
(58:15):
really can't imagine how setting off NAT your bombs would
would create that.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, well there's there is some science that suggests and
that's all I'll say about that, because when I hear
hear us making up excuses to new things, especially alien planets,
my tinfoil tangles. So yeah, I'm not into that idea
for sure.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
We're suposed to go back to the Moon next year.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Yeah, it's coming soon. I'm not sure exactly when, but
uh yeah, we'll see about that too, because as we've
talked about in the past, it seems like they're kind
of keen to skip the Moon and want to go
to Mars instead. That's a little weird, right.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Well, it's also kind of weird because they claim that
they lost the technology that got us from the Moon
in the first place, which is beyond I can't even
fathom that. It's be a second we got if we
(59:16):
got to the moon. You know, there's people say we
didn't get there, but I believe we did. Uh if
we got to the moon back then, how can how
how could you lose I mean you're talking earlier about uh,
the amnesia. You know that that that that the human
race has gone through you know, different eons and stuff,
(59:37):
and we lose memory of of what existed there and
what was taking place and what technology was there. How
do you lose the technology of something like Moon getting
to the Moon in fifty years?
Speaker 3 (59:53):
It's a hell of a question. And why has that
not been improved over the course of the last fift years.
I mean, it's there's so many plot holes with it.
And I can see why there's so many conspiracy theories
around the Moon landing and the Apollo Missians and all
the rest of that, because there was a heavy propaganda
aspect to all of those things, specifically for the Cold
War purposes of the space race and the Soviet Union
(01:00:14):
and all that. So I can see why people are like, no,
hell no, that never happened. But I'm with you. I
kind of believe it did. But I think there's probably
some details they spun to tell us some stuff that
wasn't quite accurate, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah, And you also have that suspicion of all that
all that film of the landing and whatever vanishing are
being destroyed or something. Those tapes, it is. It is strange,
(01:00:51):
But and also you know, it's a ten can those
were ten cans basically, and the computer systems they have
or something like sixteen K.
Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah, now we have what we have good and and
we've probably all seen those those photographs of like the
NASA engineers that were like up on these step ladders
because the chalkboard was so big where they were doing
the math to actually get them there. So like most
of it was human powered. It wasn't even like actual
you know, computer powered, because it was a pre the
pre computer space. I mean, wild.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Fascinating. It's fascinating that that people had the kind of
mind that they could do that, that they could get
up there on that on that board and and mathematically
plot the whole dog on thing in their own heads.
Now we're so used to computers doing that for us,
and now worse now AI we're going to This is
(01:01:51):
how you wind up eventually losing, uh, you know, the
amnesia of what technology existed in this time or even
one hundred years ago. We lose that because everything, you know,
we got these some machines AI or whatever doing the
thinking for us. I remember I remember being in school
(01:02:12):
and being told not to use our calculators. We're not
allowed to use our calculators. We had to do it
in our head. And finally, you know, eventually the schools
pretty much got away from that and allowed you to
use the calculator. But the tract is you're not learning
how to do things in your own head.
Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, we're short shortcutting everything. Everything is now shorthand, which
is again Carl Sagan warned of this too, about sort
of being ever reliant on technology but increasingly not being
aware of how the technology was even made or the
substructure beneath it. And he's absolutely right, and you're spot on.
We got we got folks, been waiting a long time,
just like you think I'm done.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Finally, I wanted to be one of the callers in
there to help you through the show.
Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
I appreciate it to you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
You are the best. Thank you very much. You know
what me love him the Roberts again, a mentor of
mine and a mentor of us. All go give him
a follow, Go check out his book Troubleminds dot org
Forde last friends appreciate that. And yeah, he's a fantastic writer.
Like I said, a full disclosure, he did send me
a couple of his books a ways back. I read
it it's good stories from a fracture of mind. The
Robber collection scrolled down to the bottom and it says
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the Robert click that it'll take you to Amazon and
you can buy his book tonight and probably get it tomorrow,
because that's how fast Amazon is appreciate that call. We're
talking the moon tonight, and not just the moon like
lichen thropes and I can't even say it. The forgotten frequencies,
this memory transformation stuff, and the idea of that artificial moon,
not just let's say, in terms of the Apollo missions,
but also the idea of an artificial moon in terms
(01:03:45):
of consciousness, and that pant psychism bit. Do you think
there's like a super consciousness in the sky that's been
manipulating us forever? Seven two ninety five seven one zero
three seven click the discord like a Troubleminds dot org
the Radical Truth, ray K. What's up here on Trouble Minds?
How are you welcome to a pretty good Thanks for calling.
Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
I know I I've bought my cherry and call for
the first time since I've been listening to you now
for five years, So thanks for letting me call in.
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Thanks for calling. What's one of your mind. What do
you know about the moon?
Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
Well, I wanted to kind of like echo off of Robert.
He was talking about the moon landing.
Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
I don't think it happened either, with the whole Van
Allen Belts with the radiation, I'm not big on that.
I think we made that up. I think that we
were trying to do the whole rush to the Moon
with Russia and everybody else in the world, and we
made it up. I'm trying to watch my mouths. I
don't cuss too much in your show, thank you. And
he also asked about time, like how you could read
time back in the day, And from what I've read
(01:04:40):
is a lot of like ancient species or ancient tribes
follow the low frequency they would actually feel in the earth.
And since we don't do that shit anymore and we
all live inside of our houses on our computers, we
can't actually recognize we're not polarized by light anymore, gravitational
stuff like our I guess there's tissue fluid shifts during
(01:05:00):
the different moon changes that we don't feel anymore because
they're always indoors. So when I was listening, I feel
like the crazy girl who like did a kegstand of
the mayby juice. So like for me, taking like this
like this speculative part, like what if something external programmed us,
say you asked, So for me, I'm really big on
epigenetics to sort of like code injection from traumat like
(01:05:24):
traumatic events or influences. Like there's this whole I guess
there was a bunch of scientific studies like stress levels
or trauma like famine war PTSD can leave the chemical
markers on DNA that get passed down. Like a big
example is like children and grandchildren, like Holocaust survivors. They're
(01:05:44):
showing altered states of like stress hormone responses, and they're
saying this is literally a memory encoded in cells beyond
like conscious awareness, which I think is wild. And I
think that also like wanted to talk about like mundras
and ritual like gesture, like ancient users were like accessing
non physical networks from the moon. They were doing like
(01:06:06):
these have you're like your whole circadian rhythm. Are you
familiar with that?
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Definitely absolutely our sleeples.
Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's like running my mouth.
Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
Like for me, I feel like it's like a firmware
update from the sun or moon and I feel like
the body is like receiving stuff and that's why we're
so attracted to the moon.
Speaker 8 (01:06:27):
And I think Glass called Robert as well.
Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
So we're like sixty or seventy percent water, so we
kind of just shift and everything kind of screws us
up anyways. But I also feel like maybe, like for me,
I would love for were wolves werewolves to be real.
I think it would be awesome, but it makes sense.
But for me, I try to think of the normal.
Like I don't believe in vampires and were wolves being real,
but I do think that at some point there was
(01:06:51):
some kind of ritual transformation practice that we did, like
with animal skins, dances, lots of drugs, and you know,
to the moon, like for Hunt seeing a warfare, and
then I think later on it was changed into like.
Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
Some kind of mythology. But that's just my thought. That
was my thought so far on kind of what you
were throwing down tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, well said all that, and I think you're right
regarding the ritual aspect of this. It's something we're missing.
Maybe there's a way, let's say, if it can you know,
draw the you know, the werewolf archetype out of us
then certainly maybe there's a way to sort of ritually
purify that too, and maybe that's what all the ancients
were doing. And as Mattsol very smartly said, with the
calendar sort of shifting, maybe it's sort of a way
(01:07:30):
to kind of obfuscate those old ideas real quick before
you leave too. Regarding werewolves and vampires, I like to
think that this stuff can be possible. And I'll tell
you why, because if we live in that simulation, that
old simulation theory that I hate, and I know you've
seen the Matrix and all the rest of that. How
they have the older versions of the Matrix, and so
they have these vampires that were sort of antiquated and
(01:07:51):
the you know, kind of in an update of the
server that they were left in a bygone era. However,
imagine they're out there, some were living underground or in
some you know, some some cage being kept or something,
and maybe they were real and like the fifteenth century
or something. I don't know what's your take on that way?
Speaker 8 (01:08:09):
You look at the childs like the roth Childs have
been around for forever.
Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
I mean, if we want to go like crazy, and
I think you know right now, what they're doing with
genetics and people trying to live for forever, not that
I want to get you like dinged, but like a
drain and chrome if if people are familiar with that,
like drinking certain blood to last forever, So maybe that
is a form of like being a vampire.
Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
But you know, the Rothchilds have completely run the world
for years, and.
Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
I'm kind of rambling on a tangent, so yeah, you
may make a good point at like, you know, the
Hope Indians talk about their former ancestors living underground and
drinking blood. So maybe I'm wrong, and maybe vampires are
real where well, I would love to not like Twilight
vampires and where wolves. But it was something cooler as
far as just how we've evolved. Like I'm a big
(01:08:56):
big aquatic ape theory girl, so I believe in mermaids.
I don't think they have here in big tits or anything,
but I definitely think that it's possible for mermaids to
be around.
Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
So I think you're onto something as far as that.
Speaker 7 (01:09:08):
But with it kind of connecting to the moon and
kind of how hord bodies, I don't know how to
put those two together, but let's.
Speaker 8 (01:09:15):
Just say maybe you've changed my mind on the the Vampire.
Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
At least keep an open mind, not so open that
your brain falls out, but keep absolutely keep an open
mind that everything's possible. You're the best. I appreciate the goal.
Thanks again for listening for so long, supporting the show.
Thanks for calling in and fire stuff. Unless you got more,
You're welcome to continue if you got more.
Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Oh no, I see the night stalker. Which night stalker
needs to check his inbox on the discord Buggy, I'm
going to call him out right now on the show.
Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Could be once to got it?
Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Got it? I will harass him relentlessly to call you.
Thank you again. I appreciate to pop it in here
and always a pleasure. Go check out the podcast. By
the way, I was on the Radical Truth podcast here
with Ray K. If you haven't checked that out, you
were doing it wrong. I'll have that linked in the
description and of course also in the discord. I'll research
for sad it's up in a thread because we did
this a couple of weeks ago. It was a very
(01:10:03):
good conversation. She's very professional and not a rookie like
I expected, because she's like I just kind of started
my own thing, and I was like, oh, sweet, here
can you be on the show? Yeah, sweet, let's do it.
And I completely expected a rookie and she's so polished
and pro it's crazy, as you can tell. Thanks for
the interest of the show.
Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
But my husband like blames you now because I'm like,
i gotta do the podcast. So I'm forty three episodes
in now because after listening to the show, I'm like,
there's other people that are like me. So and I
got a rooky coming on in a couple of weeks.
I've got guest on coming on. I'm gonna have James on.
So I appreciate everybody coming on the show. So thank
you so much, Mike for being the catalyst.
Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
For this right on, for better or worse. I appreciate
the call. Have a great night. You're the best. All right,
thank you, thank you. That's again ray k on the
discord the Radical Truth Podcast. Like I said, I'll surface
sight up and bring it and link it in the
description and I'll drop in the chat here in a second.
But yeah, fair, great take on all that stuff. And
that's the whole point of this, right looking at things
(01:10:59):
a little bit differently, and when you think of me too.
Again from the outside, and you're looking at me and
you're like, well, why does this guy talk about things
that are obviously ridiculously debunked. Well, because that's exactly the point.
The point I made to Rikay there is because I
think maybe maybe you know, coin Flippy, that we do
live in a simulation. I hate the idea, as I've
(01:11:20):
said many times in the past, but what that allows.
Living in a simulated space, it means anything is possible,
because all you have to do is, you know, kind
of program it in and then let's say remove the program.
Let's say they insert inserted a real vampires and werewolves
in the ancient days, and then the update removed them,
(01:11:44):
and then so these stories would persist and they would
still stick in our collective psyches. However, there would be
no evidence of them whatsoever. And that plays with Bigfoot
and aliens and every other damn thing that seems ridiculous
to talk about. So hey, if you can entertain the
idea of simular theory and say that it might be
real in any capacity, then certainly any of this stuff
(01:12:05):
might might have been real at any point, And that's
where reminds at So what less do you think me too, strange,
mister strange. Then you see where my mind's at. So
I think we're missing a ton of stuff when it
comes to these ideas, of course, And so that's the point.
But this part right here, and this is what we're
talking about, not just the moon, but also those vampires.
(01:12:28):
So this brings us perhaps to the most disturbing possibility
of all. What if the Moon isn't what we think
it is, as Robert was saying, as ray K was saying,
the Apollo mission recordings document the Moon ringing like a bell,
like a hollow bell for over fifty minutes after impact,
straight from the rite up, behaving completely inconsistent with the
solid celestial body. If the Moon is artificial, that everything
(01:12:51):
we think we know about its influence on Earth becomes
a completely different story. And we'll get to that and
more as we get back here. But that's the point
of this, Like I said, and look, I don't know
what to believe, to be honest, because there's so much propaganda,
there's so many conspiracy takes, there's just this inundation of
data and ideas that I think it's important to not,
let's say, lock into ideas of belief and disbelief. Clearly,
(01:13:16):
keep an open mind, as I said, but not so
open that your brain falls out. But I think jumping
to conclusions or making quick decisions when it comes to
this stuff, I mean, that's what humans do. But I
don't know. I think, like I said, if you try
to pin me in a corner and say, what do
you believe about this, Mike, I think my answer would
mostly be when it comes to conspiracy stuff, I'm not sure.
I can see this side of it and I fully
(01:13:37):
understand that, and I can see that side of it
and I fully understand it, but I'm not sure how
to bring those together and create a coherent reality out
of it. So I mean, that's it. That's why I'm
a weirdo, because I can kind of see the potentiality
of things instead of the static narratives, and so I
don't know as usual. Look, and I'm not the arbiter
(01:13:59):
of truth, as I always say, so don't forget that part.
I'm not some conspiracy guru. I'm just another weird guy
on the Internet that likes to think strange ideas. By
dark of night, love to hear your thoughts on this.
We're talking about the moon tonight. Now the moon itself,
but the forgotten frequencies, the artificial moon. What about a
super consciousness in this guy. There's a lot of ways
to take this, and we even touched on simulation theory.
(01:14:20):
Now it's all out there. Seven oh two nine one
zero three seven. Click the discord like a troubleminds dot org.
Be right back. More on the way, do not go anywhere.
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Play the news, right, yeah, it's the news.
Speaker 9 (01:14:44):
All right, news time, here we go action, Let's check
the news. Scientists have discovered that fragments of bacteria migrating
from the gut to the brain, specifically peptidoglycan from bacterial
cell walls, may play a key role in regulating sleep.
Studies on mice showed that sleep deprivation altered peptidoglycan levels
(01:15:06):
in the brain, suggesting a link between gut bacteria and sleep.
This supports the hollowbiant condition of sleep, where both microbes
and the brain collaborate to regulate sleep patterns. The findings
highlight the complex interplay between the gut and the brain
in maintaining healthy functioning, and suggests that understanding microbial communication
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is crucial for understanding sleep and other biological processes. FIU
Researchers found elevated levels of the brain protein TSPO in
mice models of Alzheimer's as young as six weeks old,
and in human brain tissue of individuals with a genetic
mutation causing early onset Alzheimer's. The increase of TSPO, particularly
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in microglia immune cells, coincides with amyloid beta plaque build
up and could serve as an early signal of neuroinflammation
and potential target for slowing the diseases progression. The study
highlights the role of microglia in the inflammatory response and
suggests that early detection of TSPO could improve the quality
of life for individuals at risk. A new theory suggests
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Earth was initially dry and its water originated from a
collision with a Mars sized object named thea, which also
formed the Moon. This impact, occurring around four five hundred
and sixty one million years ago, delivered volatile elements like
hydrogen and carbon essential for life. Researchers used manganese isotopes
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to determine the early Earth's composition and timing of the event.
This theory implies habitable Earth like planets may be rare
requiring a specific collision event with a volatile rich object
formed beyond the Solar system snowline. The finding suggest life
may be uncommon in the universe, potentially explaining the Fermi paradox.
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Thanks for tuning in too, the Troubled Mind's Radio network.
Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Like I said, Microsoft MIC upgrade, thanks for the calls.
You guys are great, thanks to Robert and ray K.
Appreciate that very much. And ray K is right, he's
been listening for years and years and years, and I've
been in the discord and finally finally nice to have
her call in here. Appreciate that. It's a yeah, you know,
we got a lot of smart people that have been
part of this, and I'm ever grateful because as usual,
like I said, you don't know how weird you are
(01:17:23):
until you start talking to normal, regular people and then
they're like, yeah, you know, I could see that, and
you're like, oh, thank god, I'm not that weird. Like
there's there's a thread. There, there's a thread. There's a thread.
But I don't know, Like as usual, right, the censorship
goes into this a bunch and you know, sort of
ridicule and all all the things. But like I said,
it is defensible. Remember if anybody ever kind of comes
(01:17:43):
at you weird and goes, what are you even talking about?
Where a wolves? Mic? Well, you know, im prove we
don't live in a simulation and then and then tell
me where wolves aren't real or couldn't have been real ever? Right,
you see, I don't know. I'm just saying I miss
if I miss you guys in the chat. So thank
you very much for being cool and I see y
cubs future. We got Sweets Puff. Thank you to Sweets
(01:18:04):
for posting the podcast The Radical Truth there where I
was on with Ray k. Please check that out if
you have not. Links will be in the description down below,
and they're in the chat right now. Thanks to Sweets
as usual pulling that out and being Johnny on the spot.
I appreciate you very much. Here we go, Trouble Mine
is happening now. We got Derek the Nights Doctor coming up,
Jay Wench and your calls as well. Hold on to
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Now I'm working on other terrestrial radio as well. I'll
get back to you on that tonight. We're talking forgotten frequencies,
memory transformation, and the artificial moon.
Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
Now what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Look, I don't know. The whole point of this is,
like I said, to sort of break down these ideas
and look at the world in a little bit of
a different way. And the harvest moon is tonight, and
not just tonight, it's the next three days. It's going
to be bright in the sky. Do go look at
the moon, Go touch grass, go do all the things,
and share share your mind space with nature, because it's
definitely trying to catch your attention, that's for sure. And
it definitely influences us and influences us in mysterious ways.
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As we've been talking tonight, the moon influence on biology
and all the rest of this stuff. So I don't know,
it's a weird thing, but also it's to me it's
less than spooky because it's obviously something that we can
quantify in twenty twenty five scientifically, but also with the
massive data sets as yet sort of parsed, let's say,
(01:19:47):
and scientifically evaluated. Then maybe this is maybe this is
our most massive influence, maybe even greater than the Sun itself.
Like if we had the Sun but no moon, maybe
we wouldn't be here at all. And some have suggested that.
So I don't know anyway, A lot of ways to
look at this, like I said, and the artificial moon idea,
it could be the NASA version, or this could be
the artificial moon is sort of a panpsychist entity in
(01:20:09):
the sky that is a consciousness that's maybe actually manipulating
our mind space in ways we never considered. And that's
the point of talking about these ideas, because, like I said,
I'm a weird guy and I like to talk about
weird things and think about weird things. What do you know?
Seven oh two nine five seven one zero three seven
Click the discord link of Troubleminds dot Org will put
you on the show, just like Yes, Derek in Massachusetts,
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what's up? How you doing tonight? The song kills me
every time, you know the best? How you doing? Lots here?
Lots here? I know We've talked about the moon many, many,
many times, together, but this is I think it's a
new twist. Like I said, you can't get a new
twist out of every damn thing, but sometimes you can
kind of catch a nice angle here. And clearly were
wolves are amazing. But how does it fit into this
(01:20:56):
larger forgotten frequencies discussion? Or does it not at all?
As usual? You know how we work a non linear,
open ended Welcome to the joint, Thanks for being here.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
Go ahead, great Joe, great show, great calls, everybody. I'm
scrambling a little bit. My my bosses off every Sunday now,
so it's just like my my, my Friday from hell
for me before my weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
So I do some notes and break. I'll hit you
up in the morning.
Speaker 10 (01:21:18):
Sorry, a little overwhelmed here. A great call and uh
great ice break a call too. I'm gonna pick it
back up what she was talking about with the were
wolves thing, which like just hit me like moments ago,
and it kind of, uh, I think it's a pretty
good idea, but it kind of puts my other ideas
to shame. So I'm gonna kind of wait and go
with the ideas I was going before, but with the
(01:21:39):
with the moonlight thing. The moon, the moon aspect of it,
and the kind of the lunatic aspect of it always
kind of confused me a little bit, just because the
like the phases of the moon aren't based on like
the distances, like the the tides are affected by like
where the moon is distance wise, but like and we're
we're six percent water and all that kind of stuff.
(01:22:00):
Like the light the illumination of the moon is not
based on how far it is from us. It's based
on the amount of sunlight, the sitting and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
So I always kind of.
Speaker 10 (01:22:09):
Weirded out by or confused by how come like like
the what is.
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
The tide thing in us? What's that? What's that kind
of doing? Is it? What is it about the light specifically?
Is it the light that doing it like you mentioned at.
Speaker 10 (01:22:21):
The beginning, but is it more light out that people
feel like it's closer to daytime so they kind of
free range over the night or whatever, or is it
something about the weirdness of the light.
Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
And we've talked before. I don't get into this.
Speaker 10 (01:22:31):
We've talked before about potentially there's like two different types
of lights. There's like the golden sunlight that's like septic light,
and there's the like the silver lunar light, which is
the antiseptic and kind of cycles of life, of growth
and growth and death and like every day kind of
cycles that are necessary or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
So it's two different types of light. But I'm not sure.
Speaker 10 (01:22:53):
I don't know, But like, like when I'm reading Batman,
I've always thought that maybe Gotham City it's basically like
it's the craziest place in fiction. Maybe it's basically like
a giant asylum pretty much as Coops and it's just mayhem.
Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I don't know why anybody that really lives there.
Speaker 10 (01:23:07):
But if you look at all the art from Gotham
City from Batman's world, the moon is just massive. So
it's like it's the only city in the DC universe
or in fiction it has this massive moon over it
on every skyline. And just as that was causing Gottham
to go crazy, it's just a giant moon, bunch of
lunatics went on and everything. What it makes you think about,
like what if it's kind of just driving us nuts,
(01:23:31):
like accidentally kind of like humans invented fire or invented lights,
and it just drove the bugs crazy and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
So it's like the bug zappor thing, where if if.
Speaker 10 (01:23:40):
We didn't like create fire, we didn't create electricity and stuff,
the bugs wouldn't be so drawn to this light. And
if you're a bug that has some hot, hot date
for that night or some hot planes that night, you
better hope that the yard you're going through didn't turn
the porch light on, or else you're going to be
acting like a lunatic.
Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
And just buzzing all around and plying all around and
plans to be damned.
Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:23:58):
So if the moon our kind of a giant portulate
that's making us all go go cugoo, you.
Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Know, yeah, I love it, and I think it kind
of feels that way, and not only that in sort
of weird ways, like you said, like maybe the porch
slide analogy only works during a full moon, and so
it's kind of sporadic for us. Maybe just taking a
little further conceptually in my mind here, maybe it we're
not affected by it a lot of time, but when
(01:24:23):
we are affected by it, it is massive, right. It
becomes like you said's ruined your entire day, your date,
your hot date, whatever you got going on, and it
turns your mind into mush or whatever. And we've all
had this happen, right, especially being the guy you know,
trying to trying to riff most of the show. Sometimes
my brain is just not not right, and you know,
it might be dietary, might be not enough sleep. But
(01:24:46):
these are the types of things that it might be
the influences. We're talking these forgotten frequencies of the moon itself. Right,
for whatever reason, you're just kind of your brain is
cooked because it's supposed to be, because we're collectively cooked
in a moment. I mean that that makes it ton
of sense.
Speaker 10 (01:25:01):
These bugs are just flying around like acting out Shakespeare
or whatever, and as soon as we toss the post
light on, they just go They just go feral and
start bumping into their glass door and stuff, and just
they go nuts. Maybe that tipping into us. I don't know,
let's put the lunar tic aspect of it, like focusing
on that. How come how come that's that's happening? Maybe
like it's just kind of just kind of dumb, but
(01:25:23):
maybe like it's the feeling of being watched a little
bit and kind of like when you when you go
out and there's a full moon, my eyes just go
right to it and just walk right into it.
Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
And it's just like you can't escape, you can't escape
looking at this thing. It's dominant, dominating the sky.
Speaker 10 (01:25:38):
And just like syncronistically or metaphorically or whatever, they talk
about the man in the moon, that there's a face
in the moon that like somebody is watching you, kind
of like big Brother is watching you or this god,
but the face is watching you with this like and
people like differentely when they're being watched. I feel like
turning like a spalt light on a burglar freezer.
Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
They're deer in a.
Speaker 10 (01:25:56):
Headlights kind of maybe we're deering a headlights to this
thing staring at us, or just like just just just
a trope. If if like you think you're being watched,
you just actifently. If there's a sign saying security cameras
are on, there doesn't need to be security cameras, but
it'll like it'll act as security because people will just
their behavior or whatever I mean. In the opposite, if
(01:26:17):
there's if somebody puts a camera on you, puts the
phone in your face, puts a like in a nineties
like a VHS recording interface, you start to act a
little goofy. Is that the way or mcfaces or act
still be or whatever bought lights on a stage kind
of just the idea of being watched. In general, changes
are personality a little bit. So maybe that's kind of
the difference we're seeing. Not necessarily always crazy, but just
(01:26:40):
a change in consciousness so to speak.
Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Yeah, I find the observer effect that would be the
observer Yeah exactly. Yeah, in the case in the case
of that, the the artificial moon even being sort of
conscious and that pants like as some style that you know,
that would be sort of a push and pull in
that observer effects space. So I mean it makes a
ton of sense to me. Like I said, you said
this is a little goofy, I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I like it.
Speaker 10 (01:27:04):
And I asked the AI real quick, just gave me
a list of like ancient cultures and what they had,
what what was the function of the moon to them,
and like almost every single one had like was with cycles,
was based around cycles and time. So also like having
a clock will definitely change change your the way the
(01:27:24):
way you act, like having a being being on the
clock or like being on a is like the meme
of like a person with like a d D or
whatever with anxiety as an appointment at like three o'clock,
they just like are done. Their whole day is just
waft because they can't do anything productive because they have
this thing. It's kind of at the end of their
like they're just kind of sitting there waiting for them
(01:27:44):
or whatever. That's kind of the clock, like the Saturn
time prison that that we've been kind of cursed with
time and kind of these cycles have kind of bogged
us down and weigh us down or whatever, and that
without time be much more. It's much freer, and kind
of time is just as restrictive shackles on us sort
of speaks and maybe like that, I don't know, maybe
it's uniting behavior like when when you're on the clock
(01:28:06):
or when like the inception of time itself kind of
the perception of uh, I don't know, just the one
gainess of time. And then there's just the different type
of light aspect of it. So the sun could be
of a life giving light potentially, like the moon could
be the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
So some gives us life, some gives us like warmth,
and we needed to.
Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
Grow, So that's kind of the that could be the
deptic light like the growth, the growth light the nutrients
to like the power source. Basically if it's this technology,
and then the moon could be kind of a mind adjustments.
Not it's not the building blocks of life, but the
but like the building of the foundation of your mind,
the foundation of your consciousness. So if the sun is
like the power source, like the plug that's powering the computer,
(01:28:53):
the moon could be at the hard drive or the
data center or whatever, like giving it the information and stuff.
And the moon has like a connotation with emotions and
like with creativity, like the night people are more creative.
You can tell stories and write and build kind of
stuff and dreaming obviously, like freingworks, the logo is the moon,
child and stuff and just like so obviously the sun
(01:29:18):
is associated with with soul, like it's called soul, but
like what if kind of the sun gives like what
in reality though, the sun gives us light, I mean,
I mean life, and the moon gives us like our mind.
Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
So like.
Speaker 10 (01:29:32):
Like we grow and like our vessels just because we
have this light that allows everything to happen, and then
we're kind of our soul is kind of downloaded into
us via this moonlight or whatever, and in moonfall whel
alert remove all like a huge boiler move fall.
Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
The moon is.
Speaker 10 (01:29:49):
Artificials built by an ai like gray goo type thing,
and it's used to recycle souls. It's like a soul
trap to recycled souls. So there's the soul emotion consciousness
aspect to the Moon.
Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Yeah, no, I like it, and so recognized too that
the ancients had. Basically, the two massive influences on us
were obviously this's on as you're describing, and obviously the
Moon that the most obvious celestial bodies in the sky.
You couldn't miss them. Everybody knows they're there, that we
see them, and we recognize highly their influence on us. However,
the Moon seems a little more cryptic in that regard
(01:30:22):
because you're like, you're describing where we're sleeping, some of
these other things are happening, and so we don't really recognize.
Maybe it's maybe it's the progenitor of dreams and brings
us sort of that dream space from the moon, from
the lunar cycles, maybe the entire let's say that you
know the idea of that aboriginal dreaming is influenced fully
(01:30:44):
and directly by the Moon and these sort of lunar cycles,
and that stuff again is yet to be really probably
scientifically delved. And that's why, like I said, when you
think about these ideas in fractals and you're like okay,
in a granular method, you're like, okay, so what about
this little piece of this little piece and whatstle piece
as you just say, and I grabbed a couple or
three and put them together, and it seems like maybe
(01:31:04):
there's something to that. And as you said, it brings
the mind space to us, But what about the dream
space too, Like all this really kind of comes together
in terms of human consciousness, because that is that's the bugaboo,
that's the spooky part that we really don't know enough
about or even quantify any of this.
Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Yeah, yeah, I know exactly.
Speaker 10 (01:31:20):
Like Like when I picture of dreaming or entering the
dreamscape or like the dream Works reproduction logo, it is
a big moon or eeter pan kind of entering the
like pigging Wendy and kind of flying away into the
neverland space. That kind of the first thing you do
is kind of go up into the sky and kind
of see the moon and kind of alidding with the
flying carpet with jasmine stuff kind of you enter this
(01:31:41):
kind of Urini space, this ethereal space, and the kind
of the first sign that you're in the screen ethereal space,
and at least as art kind of depicts, is the
big moon or whatever moon is this kind of symbol
for you're in this kind of dream state potentially or whatever,
which is interesting. But to piggyback on what Ricky was
talking about with the rituals kind of the downloading and
(01:32:01):
the information, I think that might be what the what
the kind of the light is or the kind of
the value or the importance of that we're water, so
the water portal thing. I won't get into all that,
but like one of the big foundations of it is
the water memory thing.
Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
So light has this information in it so like so.
Speaker 10 (01:32:20):
Like the light is like the pen and the water
is like the paper, So like the information is in
the in the light, and then the water is the
medium that can then be changed once it's like once
it absorbs that that memory, there's an information or whatever
and can house it. So potentially, like when people do
(01:32:41):
these rituals or put their crystals in the moon and
the kind of bathe the moon and bath these things
in moonlight. It's almost the connotation of like of like
a download, like what she was saying, kind of like
like waiting for instructions.
Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
They're waiting for like.
Speaker 10 (01:32:59):
The if you're like a character in a computer to
worting feel like the person who could tell you what
to do ver something like that, Like like an instruction
is like a like a yeah, I'm like an absorbing
of information or maybe like that that light's coming down,
it's a consciousness light.
Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
It's not the light's light that's during the day that
warms us up and keeps us going.
Speaker 10 (01:33:17):
It's this kind of light that kind of maybe empties
are inner cast like empties and cookies out or whatever,
or gives us instructions for the next day and stuff,
and so people so over with rituals. You kind of
want to you want to like dictate, you know, you
don't want to be at the whim of the cycles
or of every single day or whatever the moon tells you.
Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
To do that night or whatever the next day you
have to do it.
Speaker 10 (01:33:39):
If you're practicing magic, you might want to have a
little more agency in it. So like here's a ritual, Hey, mother, moon,
is what I want to do?
Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Like can I do this?
Speaker 10 (01:33:47):
I'm asking you, here's the ritual, here's my asking, here's
my invocation. And then the absorbing of the thing is
the response. It's like, okay, yeah, you want to do
this tomorrow? Like sure, that's that's not me. He has
that light that has that code, that instruction in it.
Download that and that's two day, the next day or whatever.
There's some kind of some kind of construction, download aspects
to it. And one more where we'll point and I
(01:34:09):
gotta I gotta wrinkle on that. So so so not
only okay, so let's say it is and we've talked
about this before. Where do ideas come from? You know,
the idea of a download this type of thing. What
you're describing kind of sounds like like a like a
wireless connect like like a wire like like its Wi Fi?
Like the Wi Fi is the light of the motive. Yeah, yeah,
(01:34:31):
the cosmic motive.
Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
And so we're we're the receiver of the information and
the information is coming from the moon or again you know,
the light bouncing off the moon coming to it Earth.
But the thing about that is, like I said, if
you take it to the simulation theory, they would have
to sort of cook in an idea to hide some
of these technological spaces, right that would update us, or
update the environment or update whatever. Right, they would have
(01:34:55):
to find some way to kind of cook it in
so that we were fooled enough to not recognize we
were in a simil. So I wonder I think about
it like that. And this is why that simulation theory
to me, like I said, is so valuable, because you
can kind of detach from what reality is and consider
it outside of it, in sort of a technological space.
So I do wonder if, as you're describing, it's a
it's a modem, it's a celestial modem. Again, it wouldn't be.
(01:35:18):
It would be a disguised download that we don't worry
about because it's like a nightly update, like we talk
about updating discoord before you get on the show. But
the nightly update is from the moon and shining the
light down and we're not even tripping on it. And
sometimes the developers don't do daily updates. So maybe the
daily update the biggest one. The monthly update comes with
a full moon. You see how weird? I why not?
Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 10 (01:35:41):
Yeah, that makes sense, and it's kind of baking into
the it's ticking in the system, or it's kind of
how you would design a system in a closed system
that has to have everything in it that doesn't doesn't
necessarily like let the people know that they're in a
system per se, Like if you know you're in an experiment,
then change the experiment type of things. So if you
can kind of hide it in what we sort of
to be like a natural bodies and satellites and movements
(01:36:04):
and cycles, and if you wouldn't know, but we have
to dream, that's backing the system, or we have to sleep.
If we don't sleep, we die. And then if we sleep,
we dream, whether we remember it or not. So it's
like we if we don't like check back in with
the power source, with the with the with the hard drive,
with the with the in an alien the computer called Mother,
(01:36:25):
if we don't check in with Mother, like lunar Mother
to get the download for the next day and have
our cookies cleared out. And that's what kind of dreams
could potentially be. And then dreams are messages from the
deep or I get my information, I get my news
from the only biable source, dreams or whatever that that.
Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
It's just an information gathering thing, so we're forced to
do it.
Speaker 10 (01:36:47):
We're in the system, so we just have to I
don't know, we have to get tuned up every every night,
or we have to get our our marching orders whatever
we're simulated in PC's and we have to get our downloader.
Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Day, don't miss your your full moon update, guys, it's
the next three days. Make sure you go out and
get some some light. Oh maybe too, By the way,
regarding modern chaos, we spend more and more time inside,
and maybe there's people that don't see the moonlight at all,
and so they're not getting their updates. There's another reg
why not.
Speaker 10 (01:37:16):
But I mean, if you're talking to a night worker too.
So I've noticed that I definitely dream a lot less
since I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
I was working overnight. But I will dream more on.
Speaker 10 (01:37:25):
My nights off, and my sleep schedule goes back a
little bit with my night's off, Like I'll sleep more.
Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
My stock is just as quiet and never want to
sleep whatever.
Speaker 10 (01:37:34):
But when you're talking before, I wonder, like if I
dream when I sleep during the day, if there's a
day moon.
Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
I've never even like paid attention to that.
Speaker 10 (01:37:41):
I wonder if there's kind of if I start to
clock that a little bit more, then like people don't
people have dreamless nights and then they check the phase
of the moon and it's a it's a new moon.
But like an explains that if they have a vivid
dreaming night and they chok the phases, it's all explains.
I got a lot of downloads like big download, big
download night. But with the werewolf thing, and I'm with
(01:38:05):
Rank or I'm with both of you, like I want
to believe in all these things. I'm open to the
belief in all of these things, especially like the ritual
aspect of people's belief in these things that they want
to become these they one become more animalistic or the
skinwalker thing. But I like the idea of the metaphors too,
and especially like with demonic possession, a giant metaphor could
(01:38:28):
be uh para that could be paraplytes, and in the
Bible there's a rules against it, like don't eat shellfish,
don't eat pork because like the parasites and parasite will change.
Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Your behavior and stuff.
Speaker 10 (01:38:39):
So after he can mention the weir wolf thing, I
did a quick gay I search and like, give me
a list of all the parasites that famous their behavior
based on the phase of the moon, especially the ones
that impact humans.
Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
And there's a ton of them.
Speaker 10 (01:38:53):
I won't I won't read them all off, but hookworms,
strong eoloids, giardia change their their behaviors changed during lunicycles,
sometimes during warming human human conditions, but their larval excretion
happens more during the full moon, leading the heightened transmission
potential because like for all of them whatever, And then
(01:39:15):
Toxoplasma taxo, Toxoplasma gandhi stoxoposmosis. Some studies suggests that the
parasites influence on human behavior may vary throughout the lunicycle,
potentially impacting impulsivity and risk taking behavior. Can we talking
about that a ton the risk taking behavior and stuff?
And even like o soccer, I think there's like South
American teams that have a lot of cats or whatever,
(01:39:37):
and they a bunch of the Olympic players have toxic
cosmosis and they're like legendarily awesome and they're like more
aggressive and they're like I'm probably butchering it, but like
it's made them better soccer players or whatever. But like
what if we have parasites in us that we.
Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Aren't aware of. People will be walking around.
Speaker 10 (01:39:55):
Everyone could be walking around with them potentially, and they
adjust our behaviors. They change the way we act and
they are. Behavior is changed during the during the lunicycle.
So what if it's on us that changes for us
to get to download? It's just it's the guy, it's
the stargate worm, it's in our stomach. That yeah, that's
getting the download and changing it's.
Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Instead you know, what if?
Speaker 10 (01:40:17):
What if the werewolf thing is because the parasites make
us more mistaking, makes it more crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
So that's why people got a little more wheel. People,
I'm gonna go were wolf. I'm going were wolf.
Speaker 10 (01:40:27):
It's because like of the full mooning the gut parasite
that is, or running wild or whatever making into grated stuff,
making a wolf out.
Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Yeah no, I love that. And not only that real
quick is that to imagine this right?
Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Like we are.
Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
So there's they say a massive amount of the populations,
like fifty or sixty percent of the population in certain
areas have this toxic plasmosis. But then there's the other
ones who don't. So like there's the ones that act
out and start freaking out during the full moon, and
there's the rest of us. I'll say that I don't
have it, or like, what is up with these goons?
What is going on right now? So it kind of
creates sort of a contentious atmosphere, just as on the
(01:41:00):
basis of again manipulation, manipulation from unseen things, which again
seems like magic, but in this case this is actual
science wild stuff.
Speaker 10 (01:41:09):
Go ahead, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a real down
to earth explanation for potentially what what what demon presenttion
is that you'll get something a foreign body in you
and invading force an encourasion of this little serpent or
whatever inside you and make sure you acts nuts and
wild and just essentially the same thing as as a
(01:41:31):
werewolf put it just based on a lunicycle. And come
to find out, I just learned tonight that parasites to
behavior changed during the lunicycle, but specifically during full moons,
they lay more eggs.
Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
They it says, I don't even know what it means by.
Speaker 10 (01:41:44):
Increase heightened leading to heightened transmission potential. I don't know
what that means, like transmission of the from the parasite
to the eggs or whatever, but it increases the larval
creation during the full moon, leading to heightened transmission potential.
Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Like the transmission a host like you or me right, like,
you're more likely to get infected during the full moon.
Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
I guess are they already in you? Though?
Speaker 10 (01:42:06):
Like is it are they laying inside you? I don't
even know what, but like the transmission seems like download.
It's it's a uh, it's a very download you word
so transmission it like maybe maybe it's the maybe it's
the worms inside the guy inside us that are going
were wolf, that are making us seem like we're going
were wolf during the lunar during the full moon.
Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
But I don't know. I thought that was kind of interest.
Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
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your thoughts. We're talking the moon tonight. What do you
think does the simulation theory play with us or nah,
(01:44:16):
love to hear what you think. Seven oh two nine
one zero three seven Are we being influenced by the
light of the moon and what about artificial light? That's
another interesting thing to consider here. You're at back. More
trouble minds coming up. We got Jay Winch and Daryl
and your calls as well. See you on the other
side of the break Welcome back to Troubled Minds. I'm
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your host, Michael Strange. We're streaming on YouTube, rombo x,
Twitch and Kick. We are broadcasting live on the Troubled
Minds Radio Network. That's KAP Digital Broadcasting and of course
eighty eight point four FM Auckland, New Zealand. Tonight, we're
talking the lights of the full moon, not just the
full moon, the harvest moon, and the next three nights Monday,
Tuesday and Wednesday are going to be the height of
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the actual harvest Moon. Now, the Harvest moon fits into
many sort of paranormal tails. It is the height of
the season as we sort of march inexcorbally on toward
all Hallows Eve. As I'd like to say, we are
in that space where we are on that liminal space
as the seasons change, and the Harvest Moon signifying that
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change itself the most visible obvious way going out and
seeing this massive glowing orb in the sky. Now I
say that, and it seems spooky when you say that,
but we're just talking about the moon. It's just the
moon right there. You know, first super moon of twenty
twenty five is rising. This is what you'll see. Links
from the description if you want to check out to
the Action science on this or some of the other stuff,
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or but I did cook it into the news so
that this next three days is going to be the
height of the actual harvest moon. But anyway, we're talking
so forgotten frequencies in terms of this, and let's say,
the moon influencing us in ways that we never dreamed.
That's really what's on my mind tonight, which brings about
the ideas of werewolves, the ideas of basically you name it,
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any kind of moon influence we've ever had, including the
scientific stuff as usual. Like I said, I can kind
of see both both realms and versions of this. And
so what does it mean? I don't know answers a
few questions many And that's the point of these conversations.
What do you know about it? Seven oh two nine
seven one zero three seven. Click the discord link at
Troubleminds dot org. Will put you on the show. Hang tight,
Darryl Jywinch beat you by a little bit. Let's go
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to Jay Winch in Missouri. What's my man? You're on
Trouble Minds. How are you sir?
Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
Go right ahead, Hi, I'm doing good. How are you doing, sir,
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
No complaints. Thanks for asking all yours what you got
us today.
Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
So all those are listening right now, went out side
to look at that big beautiful moon that's outside right now.
Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
You're missing it.
Speaker 5 (01:47:08):
It ain't completely full, and it's close.
Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
We got three days the next three days. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
absolutely yeah, but it.
Speaker 6 (01:47:16):
Is big and beautiful right now because we're about to
have a supermoon. You know, the way it moves is
set and the other So you already know the answer this, mke.
But do me a favor for everybody to listening. Take
three sixty five and divide by thirteen.
Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
Uh, I don't know the answer. You tell me.
Speaker 5 (01:47:42):
We've been We've been cheated out.
Speaker 11 (01:47:45):
Of a month, Oh right, right, twenty Yeah, if you
take twenty eight days and thirteen lunar cycles, we've been
cheated out of a month.
Speaker 5 (01:47:59):
Kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Yeah, that's what Matsaw brought up a little bit earlier.
We were talking about that Julian call.
Speaker 12 (01:48:04):
And if you add like thirteenth, bad like you got
the thirteenth lesion, I mean you have Friday thirteenth, then
you have you know, there's a bunch of other thirteenths
that are bad.
Speaker 6 (01:48:18):
It's like, but why is thirteen bad? I mean, it's
weird have thirteenth thirteen. We have thirteen because we have
thirteen moon cycles.
Speaker 5 (01:48:27):
How is that bad?
Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Exactly? Let me get in here real quick. So the
odd thing about thirteen is some traditions, you look and
at thirteen is unlucky, and that's more of the modern tradition,
but ancient traditions suggest it's a auspicious number. It's lucky.
And so also to put in what you're described there,
don't forget that elevators completely eliminate the thirteenth floor as
well because of that bad luck aspect. It's so strange
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that we live in a modern society and that stuff
is still out there and sort of that ritual aspect,
that's bizarre.
Speaker 6 (01:48:53):
Sorry to interrupt, Go ahead, I mean, no, you're more
than welcome, Dan, it's your show. If you want to
cut me off and interrupt, it's your show, brother.
Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
Like, go aheadset, okay, go ahead. There what else you got?
Speaker 6 (01:49:11):
I mean, and the fact that I had to follow
a certain stalker. He's probably laughing listening and laughing, howling
at the moon. But there's also the fear of the
moon and the werewolves. Anybody lives in wolf country will
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tell you dogs get wild on a full moons and
they howl at it for three reasons. One, they get
to hunt at night, that's what they naturally do. But
oh wait, they're given a light source from above to
be able to hunt even more so, I think that's
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the fear of werewolf comes from a dog howling at
the moon, Like, yeah, they don't want to have to howl.
But I'm sure people get it. Yeah, if you lived
in a wolf country, you understand, Like I'm sure somebody
in Chat lives in wolf country and understands they're going
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crazy right now and they're howling at the moon. But
I also think that's kind of embedded in our history,
like there's a fear of night, and only during a
full moon do you go hunt at night.
Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
But then again, you have to.
Speaker 5 (01:50:34):
Hunt with an alpha apex predator out there hunting.
Speaker 6 (01:50:39):
Also, because if they were to shut the lights off
today right now, or you know, the sun got mad
at us and gave us a CME event like I
think it was at nineteen eight.
Speaker 5 (01:50:56):
Something like that, and shut down all electronics.
Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Carrington, eighteen ninety three.
Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
I want to Yeah, the Carrington event, Yeah, the Western
rules will.
Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Be in a bad place.
Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Oh yeah, big time, so big time. And that's that's
another ticking time bomb, which is unfortunate. I mean, the
super volcanos, all kinds of stuff, and look, I don't
like to gloom and do them and be like, oh
is not Yeah yeah, I'm just saying like, you know,
these are things to keep an eye on and realize that.
You know, civilizations, as they say, is like what eight
meals deep or whatever. So I just just just be aware,
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just be aware.
Speaker 6 (01:51:33):
Yeah, one day the sun might be like, hey, I
hate you. I'm going to send a character inventation you
or you know this or that might happen.
Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
But my thoughts is.
Speaker 6 (01:51:48):
All as you have to do, prefer prepare for tomorrow,
enjoy today, because the only thing is promised, is it
enjoyment you had today, tomorrow or the next day. You
can spend your entire life worrying about something or just
showing at the moment, and that ties into the frequencies
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and everything, and like the A three thing coming through
and all of a sudden we had a government shut
down when it's supposed to be super close and we're
supposed to get a close up on it, but ironically
the government shut down. Make sure wonder Yeah, it's a
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three little tangle fighter tangle like, oh wait, it's supposed
to be close and we can't see it now because
the governments shut down and ts posted on it.
Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
So I love you. I know.
Speaker 5 (01:52:52):
I'm going loft left field.
Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
I was supposed to be asleep two hours ago, but
I've been listening how long at the moon?
Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Oh yeah, I do that. My wife will beat me up.
Speaker 6 (01:53:06):
Okay, don't think she's Irish and German and she's like
under five foot.
Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
Don't do that if you know, you know, I know,
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
Don't howl at the moon. Thanks for staying up, play
with us. You sleep well, and don't let the coming
three days bother you. It's just the moon.
Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
Yeah, sometimes like you got my email? Reach out sometime, man, Okay,
well you can collab on a show. Give me more
than you know. Oh shit, I just timed in. Oh crap,
I just timed in, and I will promise.
Speaker 5 (01:53:39):
You I'll keep it.
Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
You too friendly?
Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Okay, Hey, I got my email right, Look, mine are
always open. You've got mine. If you got a show
idea send it to me. I can't. I can't go
individually collaborate with everybody. As much as I wish I could,
I just don't have the time. So send me the thing,
and I'm in. I'm in, I'm in. Okay, I'm not
saying I can't. I'm saying, let's do it. Just look
at it the other way, please and recognize that I
have a ton of way. Okay, all right, so please
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please please, if you have an idea, send it my way.
Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
You are the best.
Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Appreciate you very much. To sleep well. When you do,
do not wake up your wife. It's bad news. Don't
do that. And how the moon is only good if
there's nobody around to wake up. You're the best, Jayways,
Appreciate you very much. Sleep well. Look, the whole point
of this is exactly that he said he's taking into
the left field or whatever. No, no, no, like we're
on topic here again, forgotten frequencies. There's a lot of
ways to look at this, and that's exactly the point.
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And again back to the werewolves and the lcanthrope. Let
me read this real quick, and then we'll go to Daryl.
Hank Tight Daryl, just one second, so consider the possibility
that the Moon operates as an ancient psycho mechanical construct
designed to regulate human consciousness. And this is where this
gets weird and goes off the rails, okay, which is
where I'd like to be. Full moon phases trigger temporary
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dissolution of ego constraints, allowing access to suppressed ancestral programming.
Like Derek was saying, a little bit like sort of
those downloads, right, The device cycles through different operational modes,
the device being the Moon, sometimes enhancing human intuitive abilities,
sometimes suppressing them, always maintaining a specific range of consciousness
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that prevents us from developing beyond intended parameters. Scientific studies
showed that emergency room visits, as we've been saying, psychiatric
incidents and reports of paranormal phenomena spike significantly during full
moon periods. Law enforcement and hospital staff will tell you
privately that full moon nights are predictably chaotic, though they're
discouraged from discussing this correlation publicly. Why do you think
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that is? If the moon functions as a consciousness regulation device,
these episodes might represent system updates occurring without our conscious participation.
And that's exactly what Knightstocker and I were talking about
and that's how weird this gets. And when you talk
about the idea of an artificial moon, it's not ancient
astronaut theorists say, yes, it's if everything has consciousness in
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the panpsychism way, how is the moon affecting us? There
you go. You want to see who can get the
most weird? How low can you go? Well you got limbo.
Mike Strange here, love to hear your thoughts on this
forgotten frequencies? What do we know about it? What about
the moon? You think it is more than more than
it seems? And what the hell's going on with these
these wild ideas? Seven or two nine five seven one
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zero three seven Click to discord link of Troubleminds dot org.
Thanks for being patient, Darlyn, New York. You're on Trouble Minds.
How are you? And go right ahead?
Speaker 13 (01:56:23):
Hey Michael, it's like you were reading my mind. Does
that mean that is creating an echo?
Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
For some reason, when people jump on they get like
a little weird echo and then it goes away. So
sorry about that. It should be fun, Okay, Yes, the
definitely the moon.
Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
The moon.
Speaker 13 (01:56:42):
So I was you and you're just reading my mind
kind of, because I was thinking on the same lines
as you when you mentioned what you just said. I
was thinking, you know, the moon looks like a big
giant aspirin, you know, and what if it was like
I was thinking first that it was brought in like
a night light, you know, because it's like a joyant
night light for the people that were coming to the
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Earth to whatever they were coming here for, to look
for gold or whatever, and they needed to work at
nice so they said, oh, we need a night light
because they don't have a artificial electricity yet or any
artificial lights, so we could get the most out of
our slaves, you.
Speaker 14 (01:57:18):
Know, that they brought with them or created here or whatever.
Speaker 13 (01:57:22):
But then I was thinking that would be really messed
up if they brought the moon as like some sort
of a mood stabilizer or an anti depressant. You know,
they could like you know, program it to make us
whatever mood they want it to be, or more compliant
or less compliant or more you know, excited. And that's like,
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that's not with your consent, you know. I mean, that's
like not giving us any choice, which sounds really familiar.
So maybe it was like, what's going on now? But
in a gigantic way. You know, maybe it was like
a gigantic pharma company, you know, giving us.
Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Yeah, don't say the word tilet all. Everybody's gonna lose
their damn mind.
Speaker 13 (01:58:10):
But yeah, I love the topics and night everybody came
up with such great calls and interesting like looks at it.
I mean, what's up with the calendar? You know, what
really happened in the Dark Ages? Were they dark, like
really dark? Or did they just like, you know, take
off a thousand years or add a thousand years to
history because they just, uh, you know, needed to make
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up for some some stuff they were, you know, doing
in the dark or something I don't know, you know,
in the thirteen months, Oh my god, Like, what would
like the school year be, like, you know, would you
have a three month off summer vacation?
Speaker 14 (01:58:47):
You know, like that that month at that extra month
we did?
Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
We did?
Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
Hey, am I wrong though in saying that we had
a three month summer vacation? Anyway? As kids? I swear
it was three months when I was a kid, So
why is it not now?
Speaker 13 (01:58:58):
I felt like it was like, you know, we didn't
start school in August. We wouldn't back in September.
Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
After Labor Day, right, So I remember getting out like
the first week at June we were done, so you
had all of June, all, yeah, and then so but
now it's it's because it's sort of like many daycare
they've kind of pinched it back and you know, they
only get like ten weeks ten weeks or something. Anyway,
I digress. I just just pointing out the fact that
you're right though. An extra month would be weird for
the calendar and weird for the system.
Speaker 14 (01:59:28):
Time off.
Speaker 13 (01:59:29):
You know, you know people that have you know, well,
people with teaching jobs would be you know, really like happy,
and the kids wouldn't be happy.
Speaker 14 (01:59:40):
But like, how many weeks of vacation would you get?
Speaker 13 (01:59:43):
And you know, I'm just thinking that way, and how
much unemployment would you get and all that kind of stuff.
You know, how would that affect the workforce with an
extra month off or whatever, that extra month we'd be
more productive?
Speaker 14 (01:59:57):
Was productive?
Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
I don't know, Yeah, it's a good question. It's the
same amount of days. But when you when you look
at it differently in a different pattern, I wonder maybe
we get a month. May hey, I'll take a month off, don't. Hell, yeah,
I'm ready for that sure.
Speaker 13 (02:00:10):
And about the thing about parasites, like, you know, look,
animals are more sensitive to changes in our you know,
atmosphere or you know, if there's a predator. They are aware,
you know, like insects even knowing something's wrong. You know,
everybody seems to know when something's w accept humans, you know,
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we're the.
Speaker 14 (02:00:31):
Last people to know.
Speaker 13 (02:00:32):
Like, was there a time when we were just as like,
you know, instinctive as you know, a bug or an
animal or a wolf, you know, like where we like modified?
How many times were we modified? Maybe we were incredibly intuitive.
Maybe we talked to animals, you know and fish. Maybe
we were half fish like a mermaid.
Speaker 14 (02:00:53):
You know, maybe there.
Speaker 13 (02:00:54):
Wasn't a big difference between us and the you know,
animals and the instincts. And how many times have we
been modified before? You know, being modified as we speak?
So like, what what is next? You know, is this
what they mean by survival of the fittest? You know,
who could put up with the most modifications? I mean
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there's like regular evolution and then there's kind of like
forced evolution. Who knows, you know, they've they've dumped us down,
you know, through whatever methods they have. I mean, we're
a few degrees less smart even are accused of diminished
thanks to floor right according to some scientists. Right anyway, Yeah,
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there's and there's something about the nighttime, like when I
when I was sick with more gallons for example, which
I believe was some sort of aerosite by a weapon whatever.
Speaker 14 (02:01:46):
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 13 (02:01:46):
But at three o'clock in the morning, like clockwork, they
were the most active in my in my like environment
or my body, and that's the time I would like
have to run out of my house because I like
my head would explode, like I just felt like infested.
Speaker 14 (02:02:06):
So I just wonder, you know, if it has.
Speaker 13 (02:02:09):
Something to do with the moon or nighttime, and what
did we do when they're you know, we should be
sleeping at night when you think about it, you know
before there was electricity or was there always electricity, but
the moon brought in some night vision so we could
hunt at night or you know, do whatever we have
to do at night.
Speaker 14 (02:02:29):
What else did I have?
Speaker 13 (02:02:32):
Well, how did they park the moon? Like doesn't it
have its own gravitational for so how did they travel
through our galaxy with the Moon didn't have a good propulsion,
didn't have thrust, it's round. I don't know. It doesn't
make a lot of sense that they brought the Moon
in that shape and that size.
Speaker 14 (02:02:52):
Did they inflate it? You know, I don't know, just
just a few thoughts of mine.
Speaker 3 (02:02:58):
I love like the Bigelow things. So Robert Bigelow was
a you know, sort of got the NASA contract and
he was actually creating these inflatable spacecraft that were sort
of very very hard shelled inflatable spacecraft that were cheaply
created that you could deploy the space and sort of
blow up as these sort of you know what the
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goodyear blamper or like the moon or something. So I wonder,
I do wonder. Yeah, Like he's famous for that, Like
that's one of the things that kind of put him
on the map as far as those NASA contracts go.
So yeah, I don't know. It's a weird thing to
consider and to even mention it. It does bring about
technology we've tried here on terrestrial or in the last
twenty years.
Speaker 13 (02:03:39):
Absolutely, it's true, true, true that and the other thing
I was thinking of, you know, maybe the Earth made
I mean, the Moon made the Earth more predictable and
more manageable. Maybe it gave us ties, it balanced out,
maybe it delayed the polar shifts or something like that.
I mean, imagine that they had the technology to, you know,
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change the way they birth behaved by putting a moon there.
What what would happen if it wasn't there? Would the
water just fall off or something?
Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
You know?
Speaker 13 (02:04:11):
I mean, you know, we just like be splashing into space.
Maybe we're getting all the other planets wet.
Speaker 3 (02:04:20):
Maybe okay, and so so okay, it's not too silly
because there's something called the quantum foam. And so what
happens when you when you perturb the quantum foam? All right,
it's nothing, it's the void. However, there's something in there.
There's something in that space. So I do wonder could
you or could the moon sort of be cascading those
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waves onto Earth somehow? Right that quantum foam that without
its influence, we might might not be here at all.
Some some have said so, So I'm just saying that,
like the statement you ade, you're kind of laughing at yourself.
It's I mean, it's it's it's plausible in the sense
of modern science and technology. Is kind of my point there.
The quantum foam kind of plays this a little bit.
Speaker 13 (02:05:00):
Yeah, what if we had a second mood on the
other side, did that make things a little more stable
or let's I mean, I don't know, you know who
who thought of this, Who who would have would have
had that?
Speaker 14 (02:05:11):
Did they work it out on a computer and say, hmm?
I mean I bet they could.
Speaker 13 (02:05:15):
Now you know, I'm sure you could probably do a
stimulation without the moon.
Speaker 14 (02:05:20):
I wonder what that would look like.
Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
You know.
Speaker 14 (02:05:24):
I wanted to mention something that happened to me tonight.
Speaker 13 (02:05:27):
I was on that Remember I told you about that
Twitter site that I like because it had that AI
that you could ask questions.
Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
And I saw you I almost jumped in there. She's
talking about Twitter space with like an AI sort of
moderator that takes questions from people. So yeah, I saw that.
I almost jumped in there. I will one of these
days keep popping in there. When I saw it, I
don't think.
Speaker 13 (02:05:46):
I don't think you'll be able to Something happens tonight
and they took it down right in the middle of it.
I went there for you know, the topic they were
talking about, which had something to do with you know, uh,
you know, big a green between big drug companies and
lowering the price and drugs and stuff. So that caught
my attention. But when I got in there, they were
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not talking about that. They were talking about something that's
pretty close to my heart, and it was quite anti semitic.
I'm just saying I was there to like bring up
the subject I was interested in, and also to defend myself,
you know, but it was getting very very heated. I
don't know if it was the moon, but people were
talking amongst each other. I didn't even get a chance
(02:06:28):
to speak. It was my turn next, and suddenly blackout,
you know, they pulled they pulled.
Speaker 14 (02:06:34):
The site off of Twitter.
Speaker 13 (02:06:36):
So if you think you're not being listened to everywhere
you are, you know, even you know, the post I
kind of shared so I could find it later had
been like kind of blacked out, Like it was like
there was no data on it, and I had the
choice to delete it. They said, you'll never be able
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to go back to the site ever ever again.
Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
You know.
Speaker 14 (02:07:00):
It was like once you delete it, that's it. You'll
never get it back again.
Speaker 13 (02:07:04):
And I wouldn't know how to find them if I
didn't have that particular you know whatever post. So I
didn't delete it yet, but I'm planning to because I
don't really want to be associated with them. But uh, terrorists,
they even really like, very militant, and they really hated me.
Speaker 14 (02:07:24):
They would have.
Speaker 13 (02:07:25):
Hated me more they knew, you know, but boy, they
were very heated. But I still felt like they could
have been you know, talked out of it and stuff,
but I certainly would have tried to. But anyway, I'm
just tell you that was very strange to be in
a Twitter space like that and get those things go
on for hours, you know, they're on for hours and
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hours like that. Really, like I thought, you know, it
was I thought it was kind of private, but I
guess it's not, or somebody might have afforded it, you know,
just just fyo, I thought you'd like to know that.
Speaker 3 (02:07:58):
I appreciate that. Like I said, I I saw you
in there. Followed followed Derek on Twitter. By the way,
if you haven't done that, sorry Darryl on Twitter, because
what's it? What's the the handle there?
Speaker 13 (02:08:09):
Dear Polio Darpoli like Paradolia, but my name is Dara
Polias par.
Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
There you go on Twitter x and as you as
you can tell, she's amazing. She's a who. She's all
kinds of fun and all kinds of smart and all
kinds of talented. A pleasure. Thanks for staying to play
with us, and thanks for showing up.
Speaker 14 (02:08:31):
I still I still have to leave you with a
few jokes, just just a couple of fast ones. Do
you know what you get when you across a vampire
with a snowman no frost bite?
Speaker 2 (02:08:44):
Okay, what.
Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
I had it turned down to this is turned down.
That's my fault.
Speaker 14 (02:08:50):
And I like this one.
Speaker 15 (02:08:51):
You you like this one?
Speaker 13 (02:08:52):
Why do vampires like attacking wizards? I don't know their
neck romancers?
Speaker 3 (02:09:00):
That one's good.
Speaker 13 (02:09:04):
Necro answers. And what's the redneck vampire's favorite drink?
Speaker 3 (02:09:08):
Not sure?
Speaker 14 (02:09:10):
Blood light, of course it is.
Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
You're the best. I appreciate you, Derek. I have a
great night. Please give her a follow troubleminds dot org,
forward slash Friends, follow Daryl. She's got a YouTube channel
and derre polia for not paradolia, drepolia, which I didn't
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Come meet these amazing people. More trouble minds coming up.
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See you on the other.
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Side of the break. And here is the news. Welcome
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back to Troubled Lines. I'm your host, Michael Strange. We're
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We are broadcasting live on the Troubled Lines Radio Network.
That's k UAP Digital Broadcasting and of course eighty eight
point four FM Auckland, New Zealand. Tonight we're talking about
the moon, and not just this isn't just your mama's moon.
We're talking forgotten frequencies, memory transformation, and the artificial moon.
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Now it doesn't have to be NASA's artificial moon, the
Apollo you know that conspiracy theory. When I'm talking about
the artificial moon, I'm talking about consciousness. I'm talking about
the idea of panpsychism that everything in some capacity has consciousness.
And again it is philosophy, it is deep philosophy. But
also again put on strap on the t and foil
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and uh, you know, take a suege some maybe juice
squint with your mind's eye, as I like to say,
and imagine if the moon in some capacity was conscious
within the panpsychist realm okay or or vein of philosophy,
and so how would it affect us? I think there's
a lot of ways that we can test and quantify,
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but I think in that same space there are a
lot of ways that we could only dream of that
are really not really a science yet. I mean, this
is like heavy deep speculation in terms of fringe sciences
or what might become or what what might not be.
But you get My point is that this is this
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is complicated stuff and on the on the fringe of
what we we don't know what we don't know, but
we do know that we're being influenced heavily by the moon.
So the question becomes, what don't we know that we
don't know? See what I did there on a on
a thin limb, as I like to say, Anyway, what
do you know about it? How weird? Does this get
forgotten frequencies? And did the ancestors of ourselves thousands of
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years ago know more about this stuff than we do
today with all of our vaunted technology seven or two
nine one zero three seven clickly discord like a troublemis
dot rug apoc west of the Rockies, east of the
Rockies in the Rockies. You're on trouble minds? How are
you tonight? Go ahead?
Speaker 15 (02:12:25):
Hello, I thought that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:12:29):
My apologies, No bro, Welcome to a golden flu season.
It's here.
Speaker 15 (02:12:35):
Oh okay, So you and night Stalker made me think
of something that I could have on the rest of
my life without thinking.
Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
But it.
Speaker 15 (02:12:48):
Fits and it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:12:51):
So how does.
Speaker 15 (02:12:55):
How do you create a hologram?
Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
With light and refraction? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:13:03):
Yes?
Speaker 15 (02:13:07):
Should I say more?
Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
I know where you're heading, I know where you're going.
I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 15 (02:13:16):
Okay. So the sun is reflected from the moon off
the moon, and and that's where we get the moonlight clearly.
And so if that's if that's how a hologram is created,
you can theorize that potentially, you know, there's holographic information
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maybe being filtered through the moon from the Sun to
the Earth. That's it's an idea. Also that brings in
the water guy, who uh who did all the water stuff?
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And so he was able apparently to create physical objects
in sanitary water with the sound frequency and light because
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it's all just frequency, right, I mean, if it's if
you can use light frequency, you might as well be
able to use audio frequency and radio frequency and.
Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
You have, you know, all the stuff.
Speaker 15 (02:14:39):
So there's amazing things that this guy did. I'm sure
that most of your listeners know about this guy. But
I think he's also the one who discovered the ADES virus.
But he did happen to apparently replicated about one hundred
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miles away with just the audio of a phone line
and sterile water in a different scientific place, like one
hundred miles an hour. Sorry, I'm stuffy and my head
is too, so that's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
Wait, wait, so let me ask you. Let me let
me clarify here. So so this is over a telephone line, Like,
how did they do this?
Speaker 2 (02:15:28):
Do we do? We know?
Speaker 3 (02:15:29):
What's what's the guy's name? Do you know the guy's name?
Speaker 15 (02:15:31):
Well, I'm to get Daryl mac one, she'll tell you.
Speaker 5 (02:15:37):
Now.
Speaker 15 (02:15:37):
I can't remember the guy's name. He was Oriental. Just
look up water. Basically, there was this cute little book
that came out talking about water frequency and thought. You know, basically,
if you take all the different bottles of water or
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glass of water and you put a word on them,
then it would sort of reflect what that word could represent.
You know, if it was an ugly word, if it
represented an ugly thing, then it would the water would
be more reflective of that. If it was happiness, it
would reflect more symmetry, more of what we would I
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guess consider a reflection of those words. And he did
that with words. He did it with thought. So he
would have his scientists or his workers or whatever go
in and think certain things towards the excuse me, towards
the water, and the water would shift. Now he would
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freeze the water and then cut small slices and then
take an image of those slices to get the pattern
of the water. So he correlated the two. I don't
know about causation more, but he thought that there was
a causation, and it makes sense if you look at it,
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that there's a causation in what he was doing. And
that's what science is about. I guess you know what
he was doing in the outcome of the experiments. So
he did that with water and then made a little
book about it and it was a cute little book.
But what they failed to tell you is that this
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guy was a really famous and intriguing scientist who had
won some awards. I think he was Oriental.
Speaker 3 (02:17:38):
I did a search. I got a French guy named
Jacques ben Veniste. Does that make sense?
Speaker 15 (02:17:44):
Might be French?
Speaker 3 (02:17:46):
A French ammynologist born in Paris. In nineteen seventy nine,
he published a paper on the structure of platelet activating factor. Yeah,
he's got the water memory as part of this, and
there's a there's a mention of aids in the bottom
of the article here that we could be here. So
there seems like we got a connection. So maybe this
is the guy. Anyway. If it's not the guy, that's okay.
I'm going to add this link in the description and
we'll follow up on this. But I've never heard this
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particular space before, but I love it. Go ahead, what
else I got?
Speaker 15 (02:18:11):
Yeah, I actually do think he was fringe, but I
think he might have been Oriental in origin in orange genetics.
I don't know. That might just be my fault tya memory,
I don't know, But yeah, he did that, and then
there were a lot of experiments that he did pretty
much constantly out of the ordinary that he was interested in.
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And so he would take sand, sterilize the sand, put
it in a sterile tube, and put sterile water in there,
and then he would do the reflective.
Speaker 5 (02:18:50):
Thing.
Speaker 15 (02:18:50):
He would basically point light at it using sunlight I think,
and laser or maybe in some other things. I don't
I don't know. I'm not that familiar with that part
of his experimentation, but that that particular thing created shapes
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in the sterile water that looked like living organisms. So
they looked like jellyfish, and they looked like just these
objects that if you were to glance at them in nature,
you would think that they were a living thing that
you could identify. And so that's you know, going into
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the pant spermia idea. Hey, guys, going into the pant
spermia idea, you have.
Speaker 2 (02:19:45):
Got that.
Speaker 15 (02:19:47):
Maybe you can do something here for a minute while
these guys.
Speaker 3 (02:19:52):
I got you, I got you, I got you, uh
said said puppy, said yeah, directed pant Spurmi this whole bit.
I'm not sure that this is the guy, Like, well,
I'll dig a little deeper and we'll find the name
of this guy that she's talking about. But yeah, I
have heard of the water memory stuff, and it is
fascinating to sell. And is it kind of based on
at least the idea of that energy frequency vibration, the seimatics.
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And I know we've all seen, you know, we're all
conspiracy heads here. We've seen sort of how they put
the sand in the sort of on this like metal
plate and they're able to send a sound frequency at it,
like a like a you know, an a note or something,
and then the sand sort of vibrates on the metal
plate to a particular position and shows you a particular shape.
So there's like almost as if that that level of
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frequency energy has its its actual visual shape to it,
which is incredible. And to consider that and take it
to the next step with that water memory. I wonder
as who said that earlier. Was it Derek maybe saying that,
or maybe Jaywinch somebody called it earlier and was talking
about that, that idea of the water sort of retaining it.
I think it may have been maybe the Robert I
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don't know, one of you, one of you very smart
people out there, and so maybe this is it. Maybe
this is exactly what we're talking about, that idea of
the retention of water memory in shapes of living entities.
I mean, imagine, so what is the human frequency? Is
it like a g chord? Don't make me get my guitar.
Welcome back, APO, go ahead.
Speaker 15 (02:21:16):
So it's hidden messages in water, Niero Emotos. So he
might not have even been connected to this other guy.
But this other guy, the French guy, I think, is
the one that that did all the other researchers. But
this is too and this might be where I got
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the oriental thing is that this author is.
Speaker 3 (02:21:46):
Wait, wait, do the rumbles firing was off with doctor Emoto.
Doctor Ye.
Speaker 15 (02:21:56):
Is an internally renowned Japanese researcher who has gained worldwide
to claim Emotos graduate of Yokohama Municipal University. Okay, but
this is not the guy that did the aide stuff
and did all the other experiments on water. Ironically, the
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guy that you pulled up.
Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
If you look up a.
Speaker 15 (02:22:22):
Documentary on that guy, I think you'll get the majority
of what I've been talking about, what he did in
his research. And he is French, and that's why I
was getting him mixed up.
Speaker 3 (02:22:35):
That's okay, you're allowed. Hey, we're all out to these
these ideas flow through our heads as they do. Okay,
so we got a couple of guys, all thank you
for sniffing that out over there on Rumble as well.
So I'll have links to both of these individuals in
the description afterward if you guys want to look it up.
But yeah, I mean, the water memory stuff always fascinates
the hell out of me, because what if, in the
most primordial sense, water does remember somehow? I mean that
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means like if you find like, ain't like that that
mystical source water that Derek's always talking about, it remembers everything.
It sort of has everything sort of embedded in it
for millions of years. It's wild to think about.
Speaker 15 (02:23:11):
Well, if you look at what you were talking about,
if you bring in if you bring cymatics into it,
it's all the same things. So everything vibrates at a
certain frequency. And I guess I don't know what string
theory has to do with it other than the fact
that you know, in string theory, as things vibrate, it
creates reality, I suppose, So it might be interconnected in
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that way. We should ask Eric you would know, But
if if things are like flocked like a string, or
is resonating or vibrating in any way. And we have
all of the things, I mean everything, all of the
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things are doing that right, And so isn't there a
gradient recessive proximital response that happens? And you can you
can see that in you know, if you pluck a
string on one guitar and the no one's holding another guitar,
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the other guitar, depending on the on the volume and
frequency of the string, could literally begin that other guitar
string resonating if they're they're tuned to the right frequency together.
And so it's like the uh, there's a a thing
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that seems to happen, you know, with all the things
like that, right, and it is that like the the
core of how things are existing, you know, outside of
in space time, you know, is that how it works?
Speaker 1 (02:24:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:25:00):
I mean, I'm not the arbiter of truth. I love
this guy, Maso Emoto. I'm read I'm reading this as
you're talking. The Hidden Messages and Water was a New
York Times bestseller. And uh, and and again I think
this is so rude too, by the way, like so
are scientific pioneers that have they're onto something and kind
of chase down these leads of ideas and science and
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theory that don't ever come to the conclusion. They're called
brutally pseudo scientists. Like right here in the top part
of the thing, it says, but masorrow Emoto was a
Japanese businessman, author and a pseudo scientist. It's like, okay, look,
I get it, I get it, but are you telling
me that, like, oh, I don't know. Let's say au
Vi Lobe is not a pseudo scientist. I mean he
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says everything that flies by as an alien right and
no offense to Avvi Lobe. If you're out there, I'd
love to have you on the show, come call us
and talk to us and hang out and well, and
I'll ask you about that directly, because I you know,
I'm not I'm not scared of ideas. But holy crap,
right Like he's the head of a Harvard thing and
you know he can say wild things and it's fine.
But this guy gets labeled as pseudo scientists on Wikipedia.
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It's just so brutal how we we label these things
of I mean, you know what am I like a
like a quack talk show host, is what you know?
Thank god, I don't have a Wikipedia or would say
something like that. But I mean, who cares, like this
is this is consensus? Right? We live outside of consensus. Anyway,
there's my rant. I'll shut up. Now what else you
got for chime in?
Speaker 15 (02:26:26):
Well? So the French guy started doing his more off
the wall research after he had won a couple of awards,
you know, and got his accreditation and stuff in his tenure,
I believe, and so he was a well respected if
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I'm remembering correctly, he was a well respected scientists doing
research that was I think paid by other people, which
is how you get you know, and all that stuff first.
And then he started and you know, it's it's France,
so who knows, you know, the French people might be
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more more open minded about that stuff. But I you know,
as far as I remember, you know, him being the
guy who apparently discovered the AIDS virus and did work
on viruses and other things prior to this, I think
that they couldn't really call him a pseudo scientist, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
So once you check out the other character, yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah,
once you break through that pseudoscience, you know, the wild
idea thing, and you're like, well, prove me wrong guys,
and you have like an actual experiment that they can
prove you wrong. Then suddenly, right that things change and
they stopped calling you pseudoscientists. Now they start trying to
figure out why the thing is the thing that became
the thing. But I don't know it just it just
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look I get it when you're like when you say
things like never mind, I already went on the rant.
It's stuck in my head. I'm not going to say
it again. I already said it, but you get what
I mean. And yes, so I will have links to
both of these individuals and I will dig deeper on
both of these as well. This is this is very
cool stuff, very cool stuff. Take for sure, what else
regarding water memory? How weird does that get?
Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
What about the primal source waters? If you found, like,
you know, a billion year old, undisturbed pond in some
rock beneath you know, the crust, do you think that
the water memory in there would be I don't know,
like what kind of let's say a thousand years from now,
what could technology extract from it? Is that the primordial
nature spirit I'm looking for?
Speaker 15 (02:28:38):
Maybe there's a guy who sells water filters to large
companies and it's I'm sure it's in Europe too. But
it's basically a pipe that has a contained amount of
source water and clean source water from particular places that
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he collects it. And according to the people who purchase it,
and that's again, I don't have one, so I have
no idea. But the people who bought up for their
processing plants and stuff like that say when they connect
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that and hook that up, they quit having to clean
the filtration area of all the green milk you know,
that used to grow there and all the stuff that
used to come out of there, and so but that's
just an energetic exchange basically. That's why I'm like, I
don't have one, so I don't know. But it holds
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a certain amount of the water in this pipe and
then they connect the pipe to the water outlet prior
to it going to the filtration unit, and they see
within you know, one to three months, a marked improvement
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of what they're trying to do of clean and they've
apparently got it all, you know, check the chemistry of it,
checked the bacterial stuff, and it it's I can't remember,
it's been so long since I read it, but but
it apparently has improved. Many people have purchased the product,
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but I don't have one energetically. Why not, because frequencies
are you know, they're contagious, they're contageous because you know,
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you stand by somebody, they're emitting a certain frequency and
you either want to give them a hug or you
want to run away.
Speaker 3 (02:31:00):
Yeah, I mean we're doing like we are emitting the
frequencies of our of our vocal cords. But of course
that's attached to the frequencies of our brain, which which
are emitting through that human space of resonance, and so
the resonance again through the digital darkness, goes out to
the interwebs, and so we're certainly doing exactly what you
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just describe. Yeah, it's all it's all real. It's all real.
And when you boil it down to those aspects, and
you know, you're like, if you want to be the
scientist and that the person who doesn't let any sort
of creative liberty come out into a conversation, you're like, no, stop,
it's not that. It's you know, sure you could roadblock
every single concept and try and I prove it scientifically,
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and that's good. Look, science is the best of us
when you stick to the process and not politicize it.
But beyond that, the best science is the controversial, pushing
us forward stuff which gets again crapped on as pseudoscience.
It drives me nuts.
Speaker 15 (02:32:00):
Isn't science just a label anyway? I mean, yeah, people
study how to do theorems and how to do research
and how to experiment and all that, and that's the
scientific process. They research what other people have done in
the fields that they decide to choose, right, But they don't,
you know, they call it science. But one hundred years ago,
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today's science would look like magic then, and magic today
is going to look like science tomorrow. And isn't it
just another label, just another let's call this something we
can understand it by. You know, it's like the same
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thing religious, you know, same thing religion has done, same
thing history has done, same thing. You know, everything seems
to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:32:57):
Yeah, yeah, and that becomes a thing, right. And that's
why I sort of living on the fringe of ideas
is you know, like we have to have some of
that in our lives because we can't get caught in
these dogma cycles I'm always talking about as you just
describe sort of the religious aspect of these things. Now
look be religious like to me, spirituality is good. It
is what cleanses the human soul. Okay, it's what makes
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us understand our place in the world around us and
all the rest of that stuff. But when you start
to kind of cook religion into it and you have
to show up on Sunday and you have to you know,
put the silver dollars in the plates, you know, that
type of thing makes me go and you know, and
there's there's judgment within these systems that are like supposed
to be non judgmental systems. I mean, those are the
types of things that drive me insane. So spirituality is good.
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Don't get so caught up in the things that people
tell you that you, you know, turn yourself into circles
and make it so you don't even know what's happening anymore.
We all understand it. We have the faith and the
intuition and all the things we need built in. But
of course, how do we manifest that to the best
of us really is the most pertinant question here. Our
stuff got a couple of minutes left.
Speaker 5 (02:34:05):
If you got anything else, well, just you know, I
think that.
Speaker 15 (02:34:17):
There's nothing we can really claim as being what it
is and locking into that thing without a label, you know.
And once we label it, we've can find it, you know.
And once we've can fined it, we've limited ourselves to
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future aspects of it, haven't we. So it's like, do
we stay more philosophical in what we're doing no matter
what we're doing, you know, whether it's our religion, spirituality, science,
et cetera. Or are we going to lock it into
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what to what we decided it was yesterday and not
see you know, the evolution of it tomorrow. Because I
think sometimes that's what we do, is we stop, we
stop looking at the growth of something just simply because
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it becomes familiar to us, you know. And I think
if science has done anything, it's the process of science
that's allowed us to, you know, look at things in
new ways. I think that spirituality has done that in
a lot of cases. To religion might not have done
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that very often because religion does pretty much require you
to not move from where you are in that respect.
Speaker 3 (02:35:58):
If that does that make sense, Yeah, it's limiting. It's
just a limiting thought. Structure is all, which is again
another control mechanism. Like I said, spirituality good dog micycles
bad and all the things, all the human things we do,
are based in and cooked in dog micycles. So I'm
not trying to crap on any religion. If you find
peace and solace from religion, get it, get it. I'm
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just saying, be careful because these manipulations are everywhere. That's all.
Speaker 15 (02:36:28):
Yeah, Well it's it's like you, I had it for
just a minute and that one way.
Speaker 5 (02:36:39):
That's so.
Speaker 3 (02:36:41):
It happens to me all the time. And I go
to plan B and then plants C and I'm like crap. Oh,
then plant it comes back halfway through plant CE and
I'm like, okay, this is a disaster. Oh well, being
human is a weird thing. If you got it, go ahead.
Speaker 15 (02:36:53):
Well it's so I think that conditions are something that
religion tends to have, which is structure to some people.
That that creates structure, and it's good for some people.
And yet it's exclusions. It's exclusiory. Is that a word
(02:37:16):
is the word, it's exclusiony, right, So it excludes the
people who won't take those uh conditions and meet those conditions.
Speaker 2 (02:37:26):
Right.
Speaker 15 (02:37:27):
So if we don't keep it open at the top,
if we don't keep it, uh flexible in a way
then what we're doing and we can and I'm not
talking about the truth. I'm talking about ideas and then
talking about you know, the things that we see that
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we might see as growing. You know, I'm not saying
to take false things and and uh yeah, I'm not
saying two take everything as as nothing. I'm saying that
once we see something, there's so much more to it
(02:38:13):
than what we've seen. And what we've seen might just
be an echo of what we're looking at. It might
be just a part of a huge picture, or it
might be a speck of dust on a piece of glass.
We don't, you know, but we're seeing whatever we're seeing
from whatever perspective we're seeing it. I think if we
don't expand on that, if we're interested, you know, then
(02:38:38):
then what are we doing? But again, on the other side, sorry,
I'm gonna I'm might nose is stuffy, which means my
head is also stuffy. Did I say that, of course.
But the very last thing I will say about it
is that it's good to have a framework because even
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in art, when I couldn't paint, when I couldn't draw,
when I couldn't do something for a long period of time.
I just took some four by six cards and some
black ink pins, and I reduced my creative outlet to
those four by six cards, and it worked. It allowed
me to move inward. My viewpoint, you know, got a
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little bit smaller or narrower, which fine tuned things a
little bit, and then from that point I could move
out and expand again. So I think that it serves
a purpose when there are quote unquote conditions, or when
there are things that are restrictive, you know, as long
(02:39:46):
as they add the element of a conduit of growth
in the future. And religion might do that to some
people for some people. But anyway, that's all. I'm going
to shut up now.
Speaker 3 (02:40:01):
Well said all that. Thank you, thanks for staying up
plate and calling in, even though you got the stuffy
head and the stuff. He knows, I want to read
this to you before you go real quick. So I've
got this meme up that I saw this, and I'm like, yeah, absolutely,
it's a So it's it's got a an individual kind
of there with the arms crossed and there. I don't
know if you can see it, no, are you're watching it?
Just screen it up. Yeah, okay, okay. So it's got
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like the stardust guy right, like the astral guy, right,
the guy that's like the the best things of what
humanity can ever become in this single space, the ascension, right,
and they is the meme, who the f do you
think you are? Me just standing there, glowing, not quite floating,
(02:40:45):
but glowing. This is this is who I think I am.
I think I'm a human being of divine prominence in
this space just like everybody else. That's who I think
I am. And if you diminish me in one, one
single iota, it makes me wonder about you, not you personally,
I'm saying the meme. So those those types of comments,
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like I said, ignore the haters, guys, and APAC you're
the best. Appreciate the call. So what people people think?
Who the f do you think you are? Just remember
the meme and uh it's a sticks sticks in my
mind for sure. Appreciate it very much. You guys know
what to do. Please follow our friends apocket good friend
for a long time troubleminds dot org for inside friends.
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Scroll down just a little bit because you don't have
to because it's alphabetical and apox starts with an A
and go follow her on the WordPress apocalypse. How is
the thing? All the things there? If you get like
a weird link where it says it's like, do you
continue to the link? Click it and just continue to
the thing because it's just a a bitly link and
so it's just so I can kind of count who's
clicking what, and it doesn't. It doesn't log your IP
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or anything else. It's just like it's like a number count,
like how many people have clicked and gone to apox
profile or or Be's or Bailey's or algo or who.
That's all it is. So if you get a thing
that pops up and says, oh, by the way, make
sure you say yes, then click it and say yes
and go to things. It's not spy where I promise
it's not anything like you think it is. It's just
just a counter from myself. Internal metrics metrics. Appreciate the
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call Apoc. You are the best. Thank you so much.
Have a fantastic night, and energy frequency and vibrations, prayers
if you believe in those things. To our friend Apoc
to get better from the head cold and all the rest. Yeah,
there you go. Appreciate that look, there's a as usual,
that's a that's a perfect way to encapsulate this. That
there's a lot of ways to look at everything, everything,
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and remember that that's the struggle. The struggle in twenty
twenty five, in my mind, is not about potentiality and
possibility like it's all there. The struggle is that the
power brokers that be they don't want that at all.
They want us instead to argue their talking points. Back
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to that Brene's propaganda, Back to what's the guy? What
did he say? I don't come to me in a second.
Good thing. I got music and I can just pause
and take a breath. Gnom Chomski. That's the guy. He
said that vigorous debate is allowed, and this is a
bad paraphrase, only within a structured paradigm, because that's what
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they want. They want to tell you the goal posts
are here, and the goal posts are there, and all
the arguments can happen vigorously within that space. However, when
you go outside that box, the lexicon of thought that
has been pre constructed for your sentiment and your ideas
and for you as a human person, then suddenly you
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become dangerous. Now, look, let's be real. That's not dangerous
to people. That's dangerous to the institution that would shut
you up. Don't forget that. It's a very important thing,
and it might be the most poignant thing I've ever said.
The people that want to shut you up are not
your friends. Remember it in any case, to not get
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not is happening. What we're not going to tell you
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Speaker 10 (02:45:52):
You see.
Speaker 3 (02:45:53):
Sometimes, like I said, arguing their paradigms means you have
locked into their system and you do not have the
mental capacity to leave. You get it. I don't mean
leave like leave the realm. I mean leave it conceptually
in your mind. It's important. It's an important concept. As
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we finish, it goes exactly like this. Be sure, be strong,
be true. Thank you for listening. From our trouble minds
to yours. Have a great night. Which button do I
push push on this Nintendo ConTroll? Or to uh? Is
it this one? I think? I yes, do that one right? No,
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that's the wrong one. But the one, Nope, that's the one.
That's the one. There you go, There you go. Thanks
for listening. Michael Strange out