DOUBLE HOMICIDE: The Murder of Stephanie and Gary Gillette // Prime Time Krime

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In December of a 1985 married couple Stephanie and Gary Gillette were found brutally murdered in their Corpus Christi Texas home. A main suspect would later emerge, but despite this Gary and Stephanie’s murders still remain unsolved to this day, we are going to discuss all of the happenings from this case, where it stands today and how Gary and Stephanie’s families have not given up the fight to find out what happened to them.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All witnesses purchase of interest, and suspects are considered innocent
until proven guilty in a court of law. Warning. This
episode contains graphic crime scene detail and may be sensitive
for some listeners. Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie.
Let's talk right now in true crime, and then together
we are going to work on warming up some cold cases.

(00:22):
Let's go. Okay, guys, today we are jumping in to
a brand new unsolved case. I am going to be
telling you about the unsolved December nineteen eighty five homicide
of a couple named Gary and Stephanie Gillette who were
living in Corpus Christi, Texas. Gary was thirty three years
old and just a few days shy of his birthday

(00:44):
when his life was cut short. Stephanie, his beloved wife,
was only twenty two. Gary and Stephanie had been married
for about three years, and Stephanie was Gary's second marriage,
and he and his first wife had three Shay who
was fourteen, Christie who was eleven, and Candice, who was nine.

(01:06):
They all got along really well and all of the
girls were very accepting of Stephanie and she was loving
towards them. They all had a good relationship and Stephanie
loved them like her own. They lived at a house
they were renting in Corpus Christi, Texas, located at four
eight two six Sweetbriar Circle. It was a cute little

(01:26):
neighborhood quait little cul de sac that they lived on.
Gary was a successful businessman and had also opened up
a mud logging consulting business around the time that he
and Stephanie were married, so the business was doing really well.
He was three years into being a business owner and
they were an overall very happy couple. They were well

(01:48):
liked in the community and they didn't have any known enemies.
They were outgoing social and they enjoyed going out on
the town. When Gary wasn't busy with his work, Gary
loved to playpool and was also kind of known around
town to be a jokester. Gary's work was very important
to him and he was very dedicated to his job.

(02:11):
He was the face of his company and he would
often drop things at the drop of a hat to
tend to his business happenings. It wasn't uncommon for him
to break plans or even at times be difficult to
get a hold of, but when it came to his
kids and his daughters. This was not the case. He
was very devoted to his kids. From everything I've seen,

(02:34):
he seemed like he was a really great dad, and
Stephanie seemed like she was a really great stepmother to
the girls and treated them like her own. Now, I
think this is a very important fact later in our story,
because everybody that knew Gary socially knew how his schedule was,
and sometimes he was hard to pin down, and he

(02:56):
would go off to tend to business happenings from time
to time, and he wasn't always readily available to his
social circle and his friends. So keep that in the
back of your mind, because we are going to circle
back to that soon. So we are on Friday, December
thirteenth of nineteen eighty five, and Gary was supposed to

(03:18):
have his girls as it was his turn to have
them for the weekend, and they had kind of made
some tentative plans to decorate the Christmas tree. However, he
and Stephanie had called to let them know that there
was a Christmas party that had popped up that could
have a ton of potential clients for Gary, and he
very much needed to make an appearance. There was also

(03:39):
going to be a second party that night that he
needed to go to, and it really wasn't unusual, like
I said, for Gary to have these different business commitments.
But he said that he would pick the girls up
either later that night if it wasn't too late, or
he would pick them up the next morning. Now, Shay,
who was the oldest, said she was okay with if

(04:00):
the plans kind of changing, because she had some friends
that were getting together and she wanted to go along
with them. She was fourteen, she was a teenager. Nothing
out of the ordinary for her to rather spend time
with her friends. Now, little did the girls know that
this would be the last time that they would speak
with their father and their stepmother, Stephanie. Gary and Stephanie

(04:21):
did attend the Christmas party at the Tramp Steamer bar
that was located in the Hilton Inn. They were having
a great time and then at one point in time,
Gary left to go make an appearance at another party
that was going on at the Cantina Santa Fe. And
Stephanie had stayed behind at the Tramp Steamer and he
had a friend look out for her to be sure

(04:43):
that she was safe and that she would get to
her car okay at the end of the night. So
Gary and Stephanie had driven separately because he knew he
would be hopping from party to party, because he was
the face of his company and the social guy that
needed to make an appearance everywhere. So he drove his
car and left the company car with Stephanie. The two

(05:06):
bars were a short distance from one another, maybe about
ten to twelve minutes away, and they were only both
about twenty minutes from the Gellette home. Now, none of
this really matters in the grand scheme of things, but
I love going down into a rabbit hole on Google
Maps and digging into where things are so I can
kind of get a visual of the area that we're

(05:27):
talking about, the area that they lived in and all
of that. And I found the old Hilton in Hotel
where the tramp Steamer restaurant was, and I found the
old canteena Santa Fe building, and of course I was
able to see the house the Gillettes were renting at
the time of the unfortunate murders, which we are now
going to get into. The following day, on December fourteenth

(05:49):
of nineteen eighty five, Gary's daughters had attempted to call
the Gellette home, but they repeatedly got a busy signal.
They tried again later and they got the same thing,
and of course they very much rationalized that the phone
had likely been knocked off the hook, thinking that maybe
their cat had knocked it off their receiver, and they

(06:10):
ended up just going on about their day. But Gary
still hadn't shown up to get them. So later on
in the day, their oldest daughter, Shay, had gone out
with some friends and had decided that she was going
to stop by her dad and stepmom's house. When she arrived,
she noticed everything in the house was locked up, everything

(06:31):
minus the garage, which was wide open, and all the
lights in the house were also on. But she looked
into the windows of the house, she didn't see anything
that really seemed out of place. Now, circling back later,
we are going to talk about some interviews that Shay
has done with some other podcasters and other news sources

(06:53):
out there, and whatever was inside of that house, she
very likely did, but her mind blocked it out and
that was a way of protecting her, I think, from
the horrific nature of what had happened to Gary and
Stephanie and I think it's so interesting how the mind
really has a way of protecting us when we are

(07:15):
in really traumatic and uncomfortable, incomprehensible type of situation. So
we're going to talk about that a little later on.
But she knew that her dad would never keep the
lights on because he wasn't wasteful. He typically would make
sure that the lights were off when they weren't home
or they weren't in a room, and she even contemplated

(07:38):
breaking in, but she knew that she would probably get
in trouble for trying to break in the house, even
though she had good reasons, so she decided against it
and her and her friends left. Now we do have
to remember that she was only fourteen years old, and
you never think that in the back of your mind
that something horrific has happened to your dad and your stepmom.

(08:02):
But for whatever reason, Shay just had this nagging, gut
feeling that something was wrong, although it wasn't until the
next day that the truth would be discovered about what
actually had gone on inside of the Gillette home. So
the next day, on December fifteenth, a friend of Gary
and Stephanie's named James Garland Harris. He went by Gary.

(08:24):
I'm going to call him Gary Harris, so we don't
confuse him with Gary Gillette. He had gone by their
house and he had allegedly also said that he had
tried to call them a number of times but was
getting a constant busy signal. The house was locked up.
There was only one car outside, which was not typical

(08:45):
as there was usually two. That would be Gary's regular
car and then Gary's company car. He managed to enter
the home and upon going inside, he found Gary and
Stephanie Gillette dead in their bedroom. He made an attempt
to call the police, but their phone wouldn't work, and
it was later discovered that the phone line of the

(09:07):
Gelette home had been cut. He left the house to
call police via a nearby phone. Now I did see
some different reports on this. I saw that he left
to call police, and then I also saw that he
came to the house with police, which we're going to
talk about. Surely that Gary Harris was a member of

(09:29):
law enforcement, so I think either one could be true.
I am not really sure what the exact story is
because I have seen both in different places. So I
am just putting that out there that either one could
be true, so law enforcement eventually did arrive and they
confirmed that Gary and Stephanie were in fact deceased. They

(09:50):
had been viciously attacked while in their bed, and at
some point the killer had moved their bodies from the
bed to the floor, and it's really unclear as to
why they removed. The medical examiner revealed that they had
likely been killed on December fourteenth, in the early morning hours.
Gary's cause of death was revealed to be a blow
to the back of his head from a hatchet. Stephanie

(10:12):
had also been attacked with a hatchet and had several
wounds on her head and face, and she had also
been stabbed numerous times. But the stab wounds that were
on Stephanie were made post mortem, meaning that they had
occurred after she had already died, which really makes you
wonder if this was a crime of passion, if it

(10:35):
was somebody that the Gillettes knew, somebody that the Gillettes trusted,
and not a random crime of opportunity type of attack.
Investigator said that Stephanie wasn't even recognizable because her injuries
were so severe, So even though both were attacked, Stephanie
definitely got the brunt of whatever the heck the motive

(10:57):
was behind this double homicide. Investigators theorized that the couple
had in fact let the killer into their home. Everything
seemed to be in its place, There was no forced entry, noted,
the home was clean and tidy, and there were a
couple of things missing. Two of Gary's rings were missing
and Stephanie's purse. However, nothing else from inside of the

(11:19):
house was gone. And believe it or not, they found
the murder weapon, a hatchet, under a mattress in one
of the other bedrooms of the house. It actually was
Shay's bedroom that they found the hatchet underneath the mattress
of the knife was found in the kitchen and it
had been cleaned. So, whoever this heinous monster is not

(11:40):
only entered the Gellette home without a weapon, but then
they left the weapons behind. So none of this really
makes sense. Both of those things were from the Gellette home. Now,
if you remember earlier when I said that Stephanie and
Gary were going to be decorating the Christmas tree with

(12:01):
the kids, the Christmas tree that the Gellettes had was
standing in the living room, and investigators theorized that the
hatchet was super close by, and that Gary had likely
used it to trim the trunk or the branches in
preparation for decorating the tree with the kids. So again
it's very much looking like this was not a planned

(12:24):
attack and it basically was carried out with items that
were just easily accessible to the killer or killers when
they went inside of the Gellette home. Now there was
something else that was missing from the scene, and that
was Gary's car, which was pretty distinctive in its looks.
It had a maroon paint job and a white top

(12:46):
and it was a nineteen seventy nine. I think it's Electrica.
If I'm saying that wrong, I am apologizing. I'm not
a car person. So the car was missing, and it was,
like I said, pretty distinctive looking. So as the crime
scene is being investigated. After Gary Harris called law enforcement,
they came to investigate. Shaye was still just had this

(13:09):
nagging suspicion that something was going on and so worried.
So her mom drove her to the Gillette home and
as they approached the cul de Sac, they saw nothing
but emergency vehicles and law enforcement officers. They saw crime
scene tape around Gary and Stephanie's house, and Shaye now

(13:29):
knew that the bad feeling she was having was valid,
and she got out and raced towards the house. Now,
of course they wouldn't let her in since it was
an active crime scene, but she just knew that something
horrific had happened. So in the midst of everything going on,
she noticed a man that she didn't know, and she

(13:50):
had never seen this man before, and he was speaking
with her mother. Eventually she was able to ask her
mom who the man was that she was talking with,
and her mother shared that it was a man named
Gary Harris, who happened to be the man that discovered
the bodies that day. And this is also the man
who claimed that he was one of Gary Jillette's best friends. Now,

(14:13):
Shay did not know this man at all, and considering
she spent a reasonable amount of time with her dad
at her dad's house, I would assume that she would
know one of his best friends. So two days later,
on December seventeenth, Gary's car was found in Corpus Christy,
a few blocks away from the Gillette home. Now, this

(14:35):
was actually the same day that Stephanie and Gary were
laid to rest. And Gary Harris, bff of Gary Gillette,
served as a pallbearer for his friend Gary. Police ended
up processing the car. They were very much trying to
look for any possible evidence that could link someone to

(14:55):
the crime and tie back to Stephanie and Gary's murder.
They found something pretty interesting inside of the car, which
was a fingerprint, and it matched somebody that was pretty
close to the case. It matched none other than Gary Harris.
So we need to dive into Gary a little bit

(15:15):
more and find out exactly who this guy is. So
Gary Harris was a constable for Nuasis County and he
worked as a patrolman. He didn't have any criminal record
and everyone that knew him spoke pretty highly of him.
He had been friends with Gary Gillette for years, and
not only did he place himself out the scene of

(15:36):
the crime by finding the bodies, but he also claimed
to be the last person to see Gary and Stephanie
alive the night that they were likely killed. So either
this guy, in my opinion, has the worst luck or
there is way more to the story than we are hearing.
And it is reported that Gary and Gary were friends

(15:59):
and they very much hung out together kind of on
the bar scene, and that is often where they would
chat and catch up and all of that. So that
could very much be the reason that Shay wasn't familiar
with who this person was. He obviously wasn't somebody that
was frequently over the Gellett home. And maybe they just

(16:21):
knew each other socially and they were good friends outside
and they really didn't spend a lot of time at
each other's homes and around each other's families. That is
just me speculating that maybe that is the reason that
he wasn't known to the kids of the Gellette family. Also,
an important little tidbit of the story is the place

(16:43):
that Gary Gillette's car was found parked was in a
neighborhood near the home of a woman that Gary Harris
had a romantic interest in. And we're going to talk
about all of that in a little bit, but we're
going to go through the statement that Gary Harris gave
to police initially after Gary and Stephanie were found, and

(17:06):
this was very much jumpstart of the investigation. The bodies
are found, he was brought down to be questioned and
this is what he said. My name is James Scarland Harris.
I am thirty two years old, and it lists his address,
he lists telephone number. He says that he is self

(17:26):
employed as a private investigator. He gives his business phone
number and then goes on to say, on twelve thirteen,
nineteen eighty five, at approximately five pm, I went to
a party at Burkett and Burkett Law office, which is
located at Third and Park. At the party, I see
a girl named Michelle who was one hundred and ten pounds,

(17:48):
blonde hair, green eyes, twenty two years old, and she
worked for an attorney named Robert Birkenhoffer. He says, Michelle
and I left the party sometime after nine pm and
they go to Mingles Nightclub, and he said when he
was at two Cross Streets, his digital pager went off
and he called the answering service and they told me

(18:11):
that Gary Jillette had called and wanted me to call him.
He said, I then called Gary at home and he
asked me to come over for a drink. I told
him that I had a date with me and he
told me to bring her also. Michelle and I then
drove to Gary's house, which is located at four A
two six Sweetbriar. We then got there, Gary let us in.

(18:33):
Michelle went into the living room and played with the cat.
Gary had me follow him to the garage where he
was replacing hinges on the kitchen door. I asked him
why he had taken the hinges off, and he said
that he had to take them off to get into
the house. I told him that it was easier to
pick the lock with the knife rather than removing the hinges,

(18:55):
and he asked me to show him, and I did.
I took my pocket knife out and opened the door
in approximately two seconds. We then went back in the
house and continue talking. I asked him where Stephanie was
and he said that she was still at the party.
He said that she was having such a good time
that she didn't want to come home. He told me

(19:16):
that Michelle and I were welcome to spend the night,
so we did. We went to the back bedroom and
closed the door. Both Michelle and I had drank quite
a lot, but I was not drunk. Michelle and I
stayed in the room for approximately fifteen minutes, and when
I came out, Gary was standing next to the bar
in the living room. I told him that Michelle had
passed out on me, and I went back into the

(19:37):
room and went to sleep for I don't know how
long I was asleep, but then I heard the doorbell ringing,
and I heard Gary say, okay, okay, I'm coming. I
heard what sounded like him walking down the hall and
opening the door. Somebody said, Gary, you locked me out.
It was Stephanie's saying it. And then I heard Stephanie say,
you hurt my eye. I can't see. They walked back

(20:00):
to the room, and I guess he's saying here that
Gary had told her that there was company in the house.
And then I heard her say twice, don't you ever
hit me again? And they closed the door. Michelle woke
up and I told her to get dressed so that
we could leave. We got dressed and left out the
front door. I don't recall if I locked it or not.

(20:21):
Stephanie's car, a blue Oldsmobile, was parked behind my car,
and Gary's convertible Buick was parked in front of my
car in the garage. I had to pull up and
then back out. By the time I drove to my apartment,
Michelle said that she had left her coat at Gary's house.
We then drove back to Gary's house and I went
straight to the kitchen door in the garage and picked

(20:42):
the lock with my knife. The garage door was still up.
I went into the living room and got a long
bone colored coat off the sofa. I took the coat
to the car, and that is where the statement that
I could find cuts off. I know there's more to it,
and I would love to get my hands on it,
but I cannot find it anywhere. But there is a

(21:03):
lot to unpack there. And something else that I think
is super interesting is that Gary Gillette had called his
answering service to check his messages at twelve thirty am. Now,
other Gary, Gary Harris had also come on the line
after him, as he used the same answering services for
his messages. And when he got on the line, he

(21:25):
was going on and on and on about a woman
who he was interested in dating. And this gal allegedly
worked for the answering service, and he was just going
on and on about her. And he had said that
he was going to spend the night at the Gillette home.
So this very much lays a timeline for when Gary
and Stephanie were murdered, because by three p forty five am,

(21:48):
Gary Harris is back at home and made another call
to the answering service, and again he's going on and
on about the woman who he wants to date who
works for the answering service. Now, if you remember earlier
when I talked about Gary Jalette's car being found, that
car was found in front of the house of the

(22:09):
woman who Gary Harris had been ranting about to the
Answering Service all night. Now her brother had awoken and
looked out the window around two thirty am and saw
the car parked there. So again, this gives us a
timeline of when Gary and Stephanie were killed. And at
this point things are not looking great for Gary Harris.

(22:31):
He not only is the last person to have seen
Gary and Stephanie alive, but he discovered their bodies and
him going on and on ranting about this woman, and
then Gary Jalette's car ended up being parked in front
of the home that she lived in with her parents
and her family. Wow. I always say I'm not a
huge believer in coincidences, and I typically think that things

(22:55):
line up for a reason, and I am going to
stick with that on this story. Either Gary Harris is
super super unlucky, or there is more to the story
that we are not getting, but again, that is just
my personal opinion. I also think that Gary Harris was
way too close to this investigation because not only was

(23:16):
he close to the case, but he also had the
law enforcement connections, so he knew the ins and outs
of the process to investigate a case. He knew a
little bit more than the average joe, and he also
knew some of the people involved in the investigation. I'm
sure he had friends that worked in the investigation world,

(23:39):
so there's just a lot going on here. He also
wasn't acting the most normal and conspicuous. Following the murders.
There were a couple of different incidents and interactions with people,
one of which he told somebody that Stephanie had lived
for hours after the attack and basically said that the

(23:59):
meta examiner had shared that with a member of either
Gary and Stephanie's family. I am not sure which one,
and Gary felt that he needed to share this information
with a family friend. Now, the medical examiner said that
this was not true and that Gary and Stephanie died
pretty quickly after their attack began and nobody ever told

(24:23):
anybody this. So where did Gary Harris come up with
this information and why did he feel like it was
okay to share this information with the family friend. He
also said this to Gary Jillette's ex wife, that basically
he heard that the killer had heard Stephanie making gurgling

(24:43):
sounds and then had to circle back to quote unquote
finish her off. And he said that he was told
this by somebody that was investigating the case, which was
a whole other issue if that is true, which I
am leaning towards its not true, but that's just, again
my opinion, you can't share details of an ongoing investigation

(25:07):
like this, But I don't think that Gary Harris was
told this by anybody investigating the case. Absolutely not. But
I do want to kind of circle back too earlier
when I talked about how Gary Jellette often would cancel
plans and he would sometimes be a hard man to
get a hold of. He would take off at the
last minute for different work things. So why would Gary

(25:31):
Harris be so concerned and upset that he couldn't get
a hold of Gary Jellette literally not even a few
hours after he had last seen him. And he also
was concerned enough that he decided that he was going
to go to his house and break in essentially in
order to make sure that Gary and Stephanie were okay.

(25:52):
None of this really lines up with the narrative that
Gary Jellette often would be not home, hard to get
a hold of doing work things. But I do just
kind of want to point that out because I think
we very much laid the foundation earlier about how there
would be times when he would leave and he would

(26:12):
go off for work stuff and you weren't able to
get a hold of him. It wasn't out of the
ordinary for him, and you would think that somebody, Gary Harris,
who was a best friend of Gary Gillette, would have
known this. So six months passed by, and the community
was obviously shaken by the fact that nobody had been

(26:33):
under arrest for Gary and Stephanie's murder. The person that
did this was obviously brazen and did not have any
value for human life. Gary and Stephanie's family very much
wondered if they would ever make an arrest in this case,
and then on May thirtieth of nineteen eighty six, a
warrant was issued for the arrest of none other than

(26:55):
Gary Harris. Now, in the days following a grand year
went ahead and indicted Gary Harris on two counts of murder,
and he went ahead and hired an attorney. It was
actually the same attorney that would later defend Yolanda, who
was charged and convicted of murdering Selena, the Queen of

(27:16):
all things in Corpus Christy and everywhere else in the
world because Selena is literally the queen. But despite that,
Gary was given a high bail amount and his attorney
helped get it reduced quickly, and Gary very quickly made bail.
His attorney also asked some of his colleagues and co
workers to come forward with letters saying that Gary was

(27:40):
a good person, had a good character, and would never
have done anything like this to one of his friends.
And his coworkers did come through with letters. His supervisor
also wrote him a letter. He was, however, suspended without
pay during the ongoing investigation. Now, the case very circumstantial. Obviously,

(28:03):
everything that's going on, Gary Harris isn't doing himself any favors.
He's almost saying too much and embellishing a lot and
saying a lot of different things to different people. Now,
Gary Jillette's daughters would learn years later that the date
that Gary had that night was also hypnotized as part
of the investigation to see if she could remember anything

(28:27):
that had happened that night, that maybe she was blocking out,
and she said she remembers going to bed in Shay's
room with Gary Harris shortly after Stephanie returned home that night.
She said a few hours later, Gary woke her up
and said something bad is going on and we have
to leave. She said that in the frenzy of trying

(28:49):
to get out of there, she did forget her coat.
And if you remember earlier when I said that the
hatchet was found under the mattress of Shay, that is
the bed that Gary Harris and his date had gone
to sleep on. There was also some like alluding to
maybe his date had been sexually assaulted, because she said

(29:12):
that she does not remember having intercourse, but that she
was very sore in her vaginal area and she doesn't
really know what happened. But again, that is all a
very very alleged. Now, Gary Harris also had some ties
to the drug world, and he was a cocaine user.

(29:34):
Now this could be an outlier, but it's an important
part of the story and worth mentioning. Nonetheless, because it
was the nineteen eighties, drugs were prevalent, cocaine was prevalent.
But again, that doesn't always mean that somebody is involved
in a heinous crime. But I don't necessarily believe in

(29:55):
coincidences like we've talked about. But despite all of this,
in in October of nineteen eighty seven, the case against
Gary Harris was dropped due to lack of evidence. They
didn't have any proof that Gary was involved and they
had no direct evidence. Gary Harris has always maintained his
innocence and he ended up not getting rehired after the investigation,

(30:19):
and his work history from what I've seen, has been
pretty spotty. Ever since the murders of Gary and Stephanie Gillette,
they have never named any other suspects or any other
persons of interest. Gary's three daughters remain very dedicated to
getting justice for Gary and Stephanie. They have spoken out
about how they grew up very much in fear. They

(30:43):
never really had a sense of peace because the person
or persons that did this to their dad and Stephanie
are off the streets and they feel like they could
easily target them, especially because they are so outspoken and
dedicating to solving this case and getting answered for their
dad and for Stephanie. They said that they are not

(31:03):
going to stop. Their kids won't stop, their grandkids won't stop,
their great grandkids, won't stop until this case is solved.
They also have run into Gary Harris a few times
over the years, and his demeanor is not what you
would expect from somebody who has been wrongfully accused of something,
especially to the daughters of the victim. He doesn't offer condolences.

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He doesn't say I was your dad's best friend, I
never could have been involved in this. He basically made
a comment about saying how he can't say anything or
he could be next, which makes no sense because why
would he be next on the list? That doesn't make
any sense. There is a zero evidence that the person

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that did this is also going to come for Gary Harris.
There are so many rumors and theories surrounding this case.
There was even a point in time that they questioned
Fay and her mother about their potential involvement in Gary
and Sephanie's deaths, which I know that you have to
start close to the family and rule those people out first,

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but to even think that this family that although Gary
and his ex wife were divorced. They all got along
really well. They had three children together, they were co
parenting pretty well. From everything I've seen, I get having
to question and work on eliminating the suspects, but to

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even think potentially that a fourteen year old girl could
come and help her mother with a brutal double homicide
is just off the charts for me. I just can't
even imagine that. And I feel so bad that Shay
was even ever put into that position because she was
a teenager. She's fourteen. And circling back to when Shaye

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did go to the house that day and she looked
in the window, she said that there is absolutely no
way that she wouldn't have seen Gary and Stephanie lying
there in their bedroom because she looked in the window,
but there was something in her brain that blocked her
from seeing what was in there. And I do fully
believe that when our bodies are put into traumatic situations,

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especially something like that, we do have kind of that
fight or flight response. And I don't think that she
saw what was going on what was in front of her.
I think she one hundred percent blocked it out, but
subconsciously she knew that there was something wrong, because that's
why she had that nagging, ongoing feeling that something bad

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had happened. But all I can say is thank God
that her mind did block it out and that she
wasn't the one to go inside of the house and
discover that they had been brutally murdered, because I do
think that that would have kind of shifted the case
a little bit more. But I don't really know. I

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think Gary Harris is, like I said, either the most
unluckiest human I've ever met, or there is way more
to the story that we are not being told. I
think the fact that he talks about picking the lock
is very interesting because there wasn't really forced entry into
the home, but was the lock picked? And did he

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bring that up because he picked the lock and he
didn't want it to look suspicious, and he basically said
that he had showed Gary Jillette how to pick the lock.
I don't know. I have so so many questions about
this one. I am really interested to see what you
guys think about it and see if you kind of
are of the same mindset that I am that there

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is way more to this story and the window and
the timeframe of in which the murders could have occurred
given that Gary Harris places himself there at such and
such time and then leaves and then places himself at home.
It's all very very interesting. Gary's daughters are determined to

(35:03):
solve this case and they're not going to stop. And
I think that that is brave and admirable and that
they are doing everything they can to press this case forward.
So investigators have very much vowed to solve this case.
They are hopeful that with advances in DNA technology that

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that is going to help them solve the case. And
Gary's daughters say that they know someone out there knows
something and they want that person to come forward. They
very much want resolution in this case. Now, for my research,
I watched a YouTube video that I will link below
and they talk a little bit more in detail with

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Gary's daughters about the crime. They also talk about the
investigation and how they're not going to give up on things,
but someone knows something and it's just going to take
investigators getting enough evidence to bring this person in and
be able to build a case against them, and I
do believe that that day is coming. If you do

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have any information about the unsolved homicides of Stephanie and
Gary Gillette that could lead to an arrest, Please contact
the Corpus Christy Police Department at three six 's one
eight eight six twenty six hundred. I am going to
link all of my sources below in the show notes,
as well as that YouTube video that I watched, and

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there is a link that contains the statement of Gary
Harris which I read to you earlier, and also the
initial detective that went into the home, and a couple
of other statements from a couple of other people that
are involved in the case. Very interesting information, nonetheless, But yeah,

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this one has me scratching my head, but not in
a like who done it kind of way, but in
a why is this case still unsolved after all of
these years? I don't know. There's a lot of information here. Again,
I want to reiterate that Gary Harris, despite that initial
first charge was let go, no new charges have ever

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been brought against him, and investigators have never talked about
any other persons of interest or possible suspects or any
other new leads in this case. So it very much
does remain an open investigation into who killed Gary and Stephanie,
And you can form your own opinions about what you

(37:32):
think happened here, But we do have to remember that
all people that are witnesses, persons of interest, potential former
suspects are considered innocent until proven guilty in the court
of law. So that is today's episode and I will
see you guys next week for a brand new Unsolved Case.

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I hope you have a fantastic weekend, and I hope
twenty twenty five is the year that we find out
out what exactly happened to Gary and Stephanie Gillette. You
guys have a good one and I will see you
next week. Bye.