November 5, 2025 • 55 mins
What is manifesting and how does it work for empaths? Discover manifesting techniques, the law of attraction, and how empaths can use their intuition to manifest without stress or burnout.
In this episode, I'm joined by Emma Mumford, the UK's leading law of attraction expert and author of Hurt Healing Healed. We dive deep into what empaths are, and why highly sensitive people need a different approach to manifesting.
Emma shares powerful manifesting techniques that honor empaths and intuition, revealing why traditional manifestation advice often leaves empaths feeling overwhelmed. Learn how the power of manifesting comes not from control, but from surrender and nervous system regulation.
In this conversation, you'll discover:
- How to manifesting something using law of attraction and manifesting aligned with your true self
- Manifesting affirmations and manifesting examples that feel authentic for empaths
- The deep connection between empaths and intuition in the manifestation process
- Why self care for empaths is essential during your manifesting journey
- Manifesting techniques for letting go and surrendering to receive abundance
- How to distinguish intuition from trauma responses
- The importance of therapy for empaths and understanding empaths and mental health
- Practical manifesting now strategies including vision board for manifesting tips
Emma explains 7 energetic laws of the universe, the law of polarity, and shares manifesting quotes and wisdom from her journey of manifesting everything on her vision board - only to discover the missing piece was inner healing.
If you've ever felt stressed by manifestation practices or wondered why your empathic nature makes receiving difficult, this conversation offers a refreshing perspective on manifesting power that honors your sensitivity.
Emma Mumford is the UK’s leading manifestation expert, a four-time bestselling author and renowned speaker. As the host of the #1 spirituality podcast on iTunes, Aligned Abundance, Emma has empowered hundreds of thousands of people worldwide to manifest their dream lives.
Emma's website: https://emmamumford.co.uk
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Ananta Ripa Ajmera (00:07):
Welcome back to the True to Yourself
podcast.
I'm Anantha Reepa Ajimera andhappy to welcome you to this
wonderful space where we explorethe power of authentic living.
I'm so happy to be joined todayby a very special guest named
Emma Mumford.
Emma is the author of threebooks, including the recently
(00:32):
released Hurt Healing Healed.
Emma is the UK's leading law ofattraction expert.
She is an award-winning lifecoach, the host of the popular
Spiritual Queens Badass podcast,and the author of the
best-selling Positively Wealthyand the Positively Wealthy
Journal.
(00:52):
We're going to be talking todayabout manifestation and all
kinds of things that you may nothave even ever known about
manifestation and how to reallymanifest in a way that's going
to be in alignment with yourtrue and highest self.
So welcome to the show, Emma.
It's so wonderful to have you.
Emma Mumford (01:14):
Thank you for having me, Anto.
I'm so excited to connect towell, obviously you came on my
podcast.
So I'm excited that we can talkabout manifestation today as
well.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (01:22):
Yes, yes, definitely.
And I would love to begin byjust hearing from you about a
time in your life when you weretrue to yourself and what impact
that made upon your whole life.
Emma Mumford (01:38):
And I love that question because I think it
challenges you so deeply tothink back all over all of your
experiences and think, gosh,like when was I really true to
myself?
And when I saw that questionbefore you sent it, like the
first thing that came into myhead was actually three years
ago, right before I startedwriting Hurt Healing Heels, I
think before that, like I thinkI was definitely, I would say
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like always true to myself andlike making those decisions.
But I feel like that onepinnacle moment in my life was
like I feel the one moment whereI was like, I was
wholeheartedly true to myselfand I knew what that meant as
well at that point.
So far, well, go backwards tothree years ago.
I'd finished writing PositivelyWealthy.
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And in Positively Wealthy, thebook talks about, and obviously
the journey and experience Iwent on was manifesting
everything off my vision board,a great problem to have, but
feeling really unfulfilledinside and feeling this like
gaping hole of like, oh, that'sstill there.
I've manifested all theseincredible things, but oh, I'm
still the same ever.
I still feel the same wayinternally.
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So that's when the inner workreally started coming up for me.
And during that time, I was ina really difficult relationship
and a relationship that I hadmanifested, but it was really,
really difficult emotionally.
It was toxic and it brought upevery single part of my inner
work journey.
I talk about it in Hurt HealingHealed, obviously, having a
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twin flame relationship.
It's not for the faint-hearted.
And obviously, I didn't reallyknow that's what I was going
through until sort of likereally when I was in it and
thinking, like, why is this allhappening?
And like, why is thisrelationship unfolding in this
way?
So that moment for me beingreally true to myself was
actually walking away from thatrelationship for good.
It was so difficult for so manyyears to do that for a whole
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multitude of reasons.
And for me, it was at thatpoint where I was like, no more.
I would be happy if I spend therest of my life by myself and I
choose myself.
And that's not good for me.
I'm not going to do thatanymore.
And it took probably everyounce of my soul to walk away
and make that decision.
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Because, like I said, it wasnot easy in any way, shape, or
form.
There was so much that wentinto that decision, it was years
worth.
But for me, that point justbefore my 27th birthday changed
my life forever.
And I thank that version ofmyself every day to be like,
thank you for making thatdecision because you paved the
way for so much abundance tocome into your life and so much
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healing as well.
And Hurt Healing Healed wasbirthed because of that.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (04:17):
That's amazing.
I love that story.
And I love that you acknowledgehow this was a relationship
that you did manifest and howthere can be this darker side to
manifestation that a lot ofpeople don't acknowledge or talk
about in the spiritual world.
It's all about manifest,manifest, manifest.
But then when you actually do,it's like, wait a minute, but
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that thing that we now want toremove was actually something we
once were drawing in throughseeking to manifest it.
And I think a lot of peoplehave that experience.
So what did you experience orrecognize in that journey about
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how to bring more alignment intothe manifestation process and
why it's important to do that?
Emma Mumford (05:09):
Yeah, and I really feel alignment is the key word
with that because we're alwaysaligning.
Like I think, you know, itwasn't that I wasn't aligned
before, I was aligned at thatpoint in my life.
But what was underneath wastrauma.
What was underneath waslimiting beliefs and fears.
So whilst I did manifest thatrelationship, and of course I
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wanted that relationship at thetime, what I did encounter was a
life lesson.
What I did encounter was a soullesson, something that my soul
had agreed to experience withinthis lifetime.
And I am so grateful for thatrelationship because it taught
me so much.
And like I would not be theperson that I am sat here now,
or I wouldn't have written herhealing healed if I hadn't have
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gone through all those karmiclessons and you know, really
embraced all the lessons withinthat in that relationship over
those three years.
So I don't look at it as anegative.
I don't look at it as, oh,that's like a bad side to
manifesting.
I'm like, well, the law ofattraction is one of the seven
energetic laws of the universe.
There's six other energeticlaws.
So I think so many peoplepigeonhole law of attraction as
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like the be all and end all, andlike if something bad happens,
you manifested it when that's sodamaging and harmful to so many
people to say that, becausethen you can get onto the
conversation.
Well, do children attract abuseto them?
Of course they don't.
Like that's not even worththinking about.
Of course they do not do that.
So when we talk about, and youknow, like I've had people
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message me saying, Oh, you know,I manifested a teaching job and
now I hate it and I want to dosomething else.
And I think sometimes we haveto have those things to learn
what we do want and what wedon't want.
And if we hadn't have had thoseexperiences, you know, the
universe is like, okay, so youthink you want to be a teacher,
okay, experience it.
And then you're like, whoa, no,that's not for me.
Okay, I mean, you think youwant that relationship.
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Whoa, okay, that's not for me.
So I actually think thatthere's blessings to all of
that.
It may not seem like that atthe point of course at that
time, of course, but Idefinitely feel there's so many
blessings and lessons withinthose experiences that enhance
our manifestations because thenwe're aligning, like you say,
with that true version ofourselves.
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We're going to learn things,inner work's going to come up,
and we're going to align andthink, okay, right.
So that's not quite what Iwanted.
What did I take away from thatexperience?
Right.
For me personally, it was toheal myself, to heal the past.
And that relationship was aninvitation for all of that to
come up to the surface.
If I hadn't have gone throughthat, it never would have come
up.
So I don't think there's a darkside to manifesting.
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I think it's a lack ofunderstanding around the other
energetic laws of the universe,which also contribute to our
experiences and to our life,like the law of polarity, for
example.
You know, we need the summer,we need the winter, we need the
yin, the yang to create thatequilibrium in the universe.
So I always say, you know, whenyou manifest something maybe
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that wasn't quite desired, or itwas, and then you thought,
actually, that's not for me.
That's just the law of polarityworking.
That's just life happening,where you then are like, okay,
I'm now getting closer to thatalignment.
I'm getting closer to thataligned desire that is for me.
And there's been so manyinstances over the years where
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I've like thought something wasfor me, or I was like, oh my
God, it has to be that way.
And the universe has dodged,like helped me dodge so many
bullets.
And thank God, like, you know,the universe has our back, the
universe does protect us withdivine redirection.
So I think it's looking outsidethe box and knowing that we are
always creating our realities,we are always the authors of our
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life, but actually, there'sother, you know, energies at
play here.
The universe is also guiding usalong a path to experience
things within this lifetime.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (08:57):
That's so interesting, also, to hear you
talk about the seven energeticlaws of the universe.
And you talked a little bitabout the law of attraction as
one of them, the law ofpolarity.
What are the other five?
Just out of curiosity.
Emma Mumford (09:11):
So I don't actually teach these, so I'm not
the full on.
I think now you're testing mymemory, Ananta.
It's law of gender is anotherone.
Oh gosh, I've got a whole videoon my YouTube on all seven.
Again, it's not something Iteach regularly, so it's not my
forte.
But I always just say topeople, because obviously the
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law of attraction is like myforte and what I teach, which is
the law of vibration.
So it's actually called the lawof vibration, the law of
attraction in those sevenenergetic laws.
You know, the law of polarityis one that I work with hugely.
The law of cause and effect,there's another one.
So again, the you know, theenergy we're putting out that
there's going to be an effect tothat.
So I like to say the law ofcause and effect is a bit like
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karma, really, of like what youput out is gonna, you know,
you're gonna receive more ofthat.
So they're really interestingto look into.
And I have got a YouTube videowhere I go into depth of all of
them.
But it's interesting when youlook at all seven, you can then
be like, right, well, actually,that makes a lot of sense of my
experiences and how lifeactually kind of works and how
the law of attraction isn't thebe all and end all, but it's
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actually this incredible toolthat you can use alongside all
these other things and tools,etc., to really, you know,
enhance your life andunderstand, okay, this is why
something happens, but how can Iuse that to my advantage?
How can I turn that whatever itis into an opportunity to
learn, to grow, to love whateverit is?
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (10:37):
That's beautiful.
Yeah, yeah, it definitelysparked my curiosity now to go
check out what those other onesare because I have to refresh my
memory now.
Yeah, I mean, I work a lot withI guess the law of cause and
effect because it is the law ofkarma.
So that's a very, veryimportant one that I'm
constantly attuned to.
And it's just interesting tosee how different concepts are
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presented in different wordsbecause certain things click at
certain times with certainpeople, you know.
So I'm I'm guessing it'll beprobably nothing new, but very
interesting to see what thoseare and how we need to look at
all of these factors in order tounderstand even the law of
attraction or the law ofvibration, as you said, which is
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that when we are vibrating at acertain frequency, we also
bring in things that are at thatsame kind of frequency, which
is not a static place on thejourney, but rather just where
we're traveling at a particulartime that we're on the journey.
So it's really, reallyinteresting.
In your book, I loved how youdescribed manifesting from a
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space of aligning with thehighest good of all, and really
tuning into your own body tofeel what that's like and really
to become like an instrument ofservice.
I thought that was reallyamazing because I I can connect
with it also in terms of theVedic spiritual tradition,
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because it's like the highestgood of all is like connecting
with dharma.
So is this in an alignment withdharma?
Does this not only benefit mebut benefit all beings?
And that's when we know thatthis is going to be a flow
situation and this is going tobe something in alignment.
I liked how you brought thefeeling in your body also into
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it, though.
And I was wondering if youcould describe what that process
of checking in with yourselfand your body especially is like
for assessing alignment.
Emma Mumford (12:43):
Yeah, and I think it's come from experience once
again, because for so longthroughout my manifesting
journey, and I know so manyothers as well, you know,
manifestation can stress peopleout.
It can actually be stressful toyour nervous system when people
are controlling, when peopleare in that state of attachment
and they're like, but this needsto happen, I have to have this.
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That's going to create so muchstress within your body.
And over the years, I've reallycome to realize that if I'm
trying to manifest something orif I'm, you know, going along a
process and I'm taking myinspired action towards that
desire and it's stressing meout, it's stressing my adrenals,
it's stressing my nervoussystem, it's not for me.
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And I take that step back and Iget into that embodiment of
like, right, ground back in, getback in your body, realign with
what's at the essence and atthe core of this, which is I'm
not in control, and my Virgoself loves to control.
So it's that reminder for meand for all of us that yes, we
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are the creators of our life, ifit's for the highest good,
right?
And that actually manifestationis a co-creation process and we
have to meet the universehalfway.
We're not going 90, 100% of theway, we're going 50% of the
way.
So, really, that embodiment isso, so important because when
you're manifesting from analigned space where you're
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grounded, you're regulated, andit feels good to your nervous
system, you will align so muchquicker with your desires.
Because again, even from like areally simple perspective,
you're going to be feelingprobably more happier, you're
going to be feeling more eaged,you're probably going to be
enjoying that process a lotmore.
And all of those emotions, likeattracts like, is going to
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attract that situation into yourlife because you're putting
that energy out there.
So by the law of attraction,you're going to attract those
feelings and more of thosefeelings back.
So that's why I feel alignmentand that embodiment is really,
really important because withyou know, with manifestation,
with spirituality work, it'svery much sort of like up there,
spiritual, cosmic, right?
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And actually, there's likethree aspects to it of mind,
body, spirit, as we know.
So actually, we need tomanifest with mind, body,
spirit.
So being spiritual and being upthere is fantastic, but also
you can manifest with MamaEarth, you can manifest with
grounding, you can manifest withnature, you can manifest with
your body and with your mind,etc.
So, really, and that's why Iput in in hurt healing healed,
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you know, like healing is mind,body, spirit, but also
manifesting is mind-body spiritas well, because we need to
embody all three to really bringit into our body, which is our
reality, right?
So if your manifestation isstressing you out, it's not your
manifestation.
You gotta let go of thecontrol, let go of the reins as
such, and hand it back to theuniverse and be like, right, how
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can I realign myself here andnow?
How can I bring myself backinto my body, regulate myself,
relax, ground back in, and thensee what happens.
And I always find when you dothat, the answers come.
When you do that, when you'relike, right, it's too much now
to hold on.
So I'm just gonna let it allgo.
That's when the miracles cancome in because the space is
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created and you're then back inalignment with your true self,
where you're not trying toforce, you're not trying to
push, you're not trying tocreate any of that energy.
You're like, right, clearlywhat I'm doing's not working.
So I'm gonna let this go andallow the universe to show me
what the way forward is.
So if anybody's listening andthey're feeling like I've tried
everything, like this is just sostressful, it doesn't need to
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be.
Manifesting can be easy.
It should be easy, it shouldfeel good to the nervous system.
And I've always found like themost powerful manifestations in
my life have felt so calming,have felt so grounded.
It's not been stressful, it'snot been like, ah, and I'm
learning all about this processright now with actually buying
my first home.
It's felt so stressful to mynervous system because I've
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never done this before.
And I'm like, no, this is notit.
This is not the vibe.
This is not gonna help me toreally fall in love with a house
if I'm sat here stressing andfeeling so like a nervous wreck
over the mortgage process, forexample.
So for me, it's been thatmoment of okay, let it go,
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realign.
And when we do that, you know,the opportunities come in where
you're not having to force andcontrol anymore.
Actually, the spiritualsolutions and guidance can come
in then.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (17:16):
That's amazing.
I love that.
I think that's really, reallybeautiful.
And can you speak a little bitmore to this necessity for
practicing detachment andsurrendering in order to become
the most powerful manifestingmagnets, as you say, in your
book?
Emma Mumford (17:36):
Yeah, probably the biggest life lesson I've gone
through, if I'm honest, in mymanifesting journey.
And it's something that justisn't spoken about enough in
manifesting.
Like I never read this in thesecret, I never read this, you
know, like the old school law ofattraction text.
So I never let go a day of mylife.
I don't know about you, Ananta,but didn't even know what that
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meant.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (17:58):
Well, it's a big part of the spiritual
teachings of Vedanta, and it's areally important part of
Ayurveda and yoga.
So I definitely understand itfrom the spiritual perspective
in terms of how we're guided,even in work or in
relationships, to put our fulleffort in, but then to fully
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detach from the outcome of theeffort that we're making, and
that both are important, boththe effort and the letting go
and surrender.
So it's definitely a conceptI'm very familiar with and is
hard to practice.
But when we really do practiceit, it does open up that space,
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I feel, to allow for the highestand best that is meant for us
to come in, whether that be thepolarity, right?
Of like something that seemspositive that could actually be
teaching us it's not for us, andthen something that may seem
really difficult that ends upthen being a great blessing in
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disguise.
But I think by having thatperspective, which is something
I've had to really train myselfin, it's not that it comes
naturally to us to do it.
We have to actually work hardto develop it.
So I I greatly appreciate thebenefit and importance of it.
And I agree with you.
I've never ever heard anyoneelse in the manifesting
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spiritual universe that's notkind of informed by the Vedic
spiritual tradition talk aboutthis, which is why I really
resonated with what you said,because I think a lot of what
you share is actually very muchrooted in the Vedic spiritual
tradition, which is unusual tofind because I do see that a lot
of times it's more of acommercialized view on
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manifesting, which is all aboutlike get what you want, which is
just what our world teaches us,right?
Like get what you want and getit quickly too, right?
Like, don't wait in line, don'thave to have any patience, but
you just press a button and youget what you want.
That whole kind of materialismmentality that allows for
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things.
And yeah, I feel like havinglearned about karma yoga, having
learned about Vedantaspirituality, and put it into
practice in my own life, it'sthe most powerful thing to
actually practice letting go.
And because it's so many of thethings that are small that we
hold on to, whether it's inrelationships with people or
just within our own heart spacethat end up then becoming big
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and becoming bigger problemsthan they needed to be, if we
could have just let go of themto begin with.
And even at a psychologicallevel, I feel like there's so
much we cling to and hold on tofor a sense of security outside
of ourselves that brings us awayfrom our true self.
So I was just so happy to readthis and to see you bringing
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this out and talking about it topeople because I think it's so
important.
Emma Mumford (20:57):
Absolutely.
And you know, what you'resaying there is that mind-body
spirit again of decluttering, ofletting go.
And because it's not spokenabout in Western teachings
enough, like I had no idea untilI read Gabby Bernstein's
Universe Has Your Back, and Iwas like, oh, this is what
you're meant to do.
So yeah, it's I would say it'sarguably one of the most
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important steps in themanifesting process, but it's
not spoken about enough.
And you're 100% right, youknow, traditional manifesting,
so commercialized, it's so kindof Western and like, get what
you want.
The ego loves that.
My ego loves it.
Our egos all love it becauseit's like fantastic.
It's gonna solve all myproblems.
And I can just manifest thisstuff, and life's gonna be
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fantastic.
But as I found out, I'mpositively wealthy, that doesn't
work.
Um, so you do have to do theinner work as well.
That does come up.
But actually, it really taughtme, you know, circling back into
what we said before aboutactually looking outside of
ourselves when we'remanifesting.
So asking yourself, why are youmanifesting that thing?
I've had clients say, I'mmanifesting a million pounds,
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it's on my vision board.
I'm like, fantastic, amazing.
What are you gonna spend it on?
Oh, I don't know.
I don't actually need it, buteveryone else is putting it on
their vision board.
So I've just put it on there.
And I'm like, okay, well,that's not gonna manifest
because you've got no idea whatyour why is.
You don't really care, whichkind of is a good detached
attitude to have.
But also there's not gonna beaction or any other energy
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behind that because you don'tactually care.
And is it your version ofwealth?
And what I mean by wealth inpositively wealthy is actually
your version of happiness, yourversion of wealth, not just your
version of money.
So it's really important thatwe ask ourselves that and
identify what our version ofwealth is to then identify are
we chasing somebody else's goaland manifesting what everyone
else on TikTok, Pinterest,Instagram are?
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Or is that actually what wetruly want at our soul essence?
Is that actually what we trulywant within our heart, our soul
as well?
So it's really important we askourselves those questions and
also take it further than that.
How can your manifestationimpact the collective too?
Because then you think about itjust out, you think about it
more than just yourself.
You then reflect it out andsay, okay, well, actually, I
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have the power to help so manypeople with this manifestation,
whether that's manifesting moneythat's gonna go towards a local
tradesman who's gonna help putdinner on the table for his
family, for example, or helpinga small business, and that has
that ripple effect.
So it's really great to askyourself these questions because
that deals with the controlside.
But the letting go side ofthings specifically is really
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about getting to into thepresent state because now is the
only time you're gonna receiveyour desire.
Not yesterday, not tomorrow,now, the present moment.
So so often we can live in thepast, so often we can live in
the future, but our desire canonly come in the now, in the
present moment.
So we have to be here toreceive it.
So in the letting go stage, Italk about, you know, really
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becoming grateful andappreciative of all the
blessings and amazing thingsthat you have here and now.
And actually by letting go andcreating that space, you are
creating the space for yourdesire.
Because just like what you weresaying about like, you know,
hoarding emotions, hoardingthings in life, we all do it.
Oh my gosh, we all do it.
And if you think about it,that's gonna create a lot of
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stagnant energy.
That's gonna create a lot ofstuck energy, cluttered energy.
Imagine it like a living room.
If you want to buy a nice,sparkly, shiny new lamp, but
your living room is full to thebrim of clutter, you can't see
the floor, there's stuffeverywhere, you're not gonna be
able to put the lamp in there.
There's nowhere to put thelamp.
But if you declutter, and thatdoesn't just mean to doesn't
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have to be physically in yourhome.
It can be an emotionaldeclutter, a spiritual
declutter, but absolutely do aphysical declutter in your home
and workspace too.
You create the space to put thelamp in, you create the space
for that desire to come intoyour life.
So I think there's so muchpower with decluttering, not
just in the sense of your home,but again, believe me, every
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time I do this, I'll get myfollowers to do it.
We all manifest abundanceafterwards because we are, you
know, shaking up that stagnantenergy.
We're inviting in that newenergy into our homes, into our
lives by clearing out anythingthat doesn't feel aligned
anymore.
So it's a really powerfulpractice to do.
But letting go is really aboutthe essence of getting present,
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being grateful, beingappreciative, and almost having
that mindset of actually notneeding your desire, which
sounds bizarre.
That's why it's quite a kind ofdifficult step to get your head
around because you can't fakeit till you make it with letting
go.
Like I think people think theother steps you really can fake
it till you make it.
But letting go is the one stepwhere the universe is like gonna
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call you out and be like, hun,we can see you're still
attached.
Like we can see you're stillcontrolling this.
And you know, people are like,I'm so detached, I'm so
surrendered, and then somethingwill happen, and they're like,
ah, and you're like, you'rereally not.
So, you know, a lot of timespeople think they're in step
four of the letting go processwhen actually they're in step
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two of the believe processstill.
So it is definitely a step thathas to be lent into, and it's
definitely a step that comesnaturally.
I don't think it's somethingthat you can force in any way,
shape, or form because lettinggo just isn't a forceful energy
anyway.
It's like a very feminineenergy where you are releasing,
you are surrendering, and you'realmost like relaxing into that
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receiving space.
So, in that energy, there isnot a controlling energy in
there.
It's an actual surrender toallow yourself to receive.
And I always say your desirewill happen when you need it the
least.
And that can be really hardfor, you know, I've found it
really hard to embrace that.
I know a lot of people havebecause the law of attraction
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puts so much force and controlof like, you must think about it
every day, you must do thisevery day.
So a lot of people stay in thatasking stage.
Ask, ask, ask, ask.
And they don't actually movedown the other stages of
manifestation or even into thatletting go stage, because I just
feel that there's a lot ofmisinformation and a lot of
control out there when actuallymanifestation is a co-creation
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process.
And actually, as you weresaying, surrendering to that
highest good, surrendering tothe higher power as such is so
powerful because we think weknow what's best for us.
And believe me, I definitelydon't always know what's best
for me.
We're all here to learn, right?
And by, you know, and I thinksometimes people think as well
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that letting go is giving up, orit's saying, Yeah, you know,
oh, I don't deserve what I wantor whatever.
And it's not that at all.
It's simply saying, I'm okay ifit happens, or I'm I'm okay if
it doesn't.
And when you allow somethingbetter into your life, this or
something better for the highestgood, it's never going to be a
downgrade.
Like I know over the years Ialways thought, oh, it's
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probably not going to be asgood.
And every single time, and Iknow every other single person
on this planet can agree, it'snever worse.
It's always better.
And we're like, thank God wedidn't get what we thought we
wanted because this is so muchbetter.
So it's really trusting in thatprocess of letting go of those
hows, whens, whys, all of thishows, because we're not in
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control of that.
We do our 50%, and the universemeets us 50% of the way.
So I feel if we all practicethat lettergo and surrendering
more, just in day-to-day life aswell, it can have such a
powerful impact on the abundancethat you receive as a whole
because you're in that receivingenergy.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (28:31):
Yeah, that's so amazing.
It's amazing also because it'sreflecting another Vedantic
teaching, which is around thetypes of action that we can take
in life and the kind of karmathat comes back as a result of
it.
And if we're just manifestingfrom a space of personal desire,
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then the law of karma in theVedanta philosophy teaches that
what you get back is somethingnot so great.
Even if you get the thing thatyou want, but it impacts you
negatively because it's comingfrom that self-interested space.
And when we have a desire forsomething that's unselfish,
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that's actually benefiting otherpeople or someone else at least
besides ourselves, then we getpositive karma back.
So more beneficial results comeback to us.
And if we're really tired ofcycling around this wheel of
samsara, as it's called in theVedic spiritual tradition, this
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wheel of suffering, ofconstantly going in a circular
motion and not getting out ofit, right?
Because we keep on, like yousaid, like thinking about the
thing that we want over and overagain and suffering as a result
of it, because we think we needit to complete us.
Then the actions that arerecommended to come out of this
whole wheel of suffering ofsamsara are what are called
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selfless actions.
And that's where you do exactlywhat you said, which is to ask
how can I be an instrument?
and simply.
We do what it is I ought to doand do those things that will
then bring a manifestation thatis feminine intention that's not
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just to benefit myself, but tobe like the sun training because
that's its nature.
And when the sun shines, it'sin its environment, it's in its
higher purpose.
And I feel that when we honorthe call to serve and to give,
that abundance naturally followsthat intention.
And the more beings we seek tobenefit from our actions, the
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more it purifies our karma andfrees us from our own mental
tackles.
And like you can bring themsomething even greater than what
we could have possiblyimagined.
So I think it's so wonderfulthat you are thinking about this
because I think it's soimmediate and so so important
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for people to understand thatthis is also how to manifest in
a way that is going to befeeling for my body and spirit,
not just manifesting and thennot knowing what to do, you
know, as a result of workingback and then wanting to
manifest more and more and moreand getting slightly obsessive
about it and constantly thinkingabout it.
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That's how we strengthen thatkind of like suffering as a
result of desire for somethingoutside of ourselves.
Whereas when we don't reallyhave the desire, which is what
you were talking about, when wedon't feel like we need it, but
we're seeking to manifest it,it's like what we say the
intellect, the part of the beingthat controls the emotional
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reactions of the mind, isactually setting manifestation
for something greater, somethingbetter from a space of no
emotional craving for it.
And that I feel is reallypowerful because when you're
fully in control of youremotions and able to surrender
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and to know what you can do andwhat you have to let go of, then
you're actually in such anoptimal state to really be able
to handle the million pounds,right?
And to know what exactly youwould do with that, which would
be benefiting yourself as wellas other people, and then
continuing that flow of natureand of it being a channel for
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abundance.
So yeah, I feel like we canmanifest a lot more when we're
not thinking to do it forfulfilling an emotional void
within ourselves, and that's areally, really important
understanding.
So I'm so happy that you wrotethis book about healing as it
relates to manifestation.
I think it's really, reallyawesome and so needed.
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And I want to hear you alsotalk about what is it like to
receive as an empath, especiallybecause a lot of empaths don't
really feel comfortable withthis idea of receiving.
And how can we as empathsactually open ourselves to that?
Emma Mumford (33:14):
And I think as well, like I want to talk about
it from a really practical pointof view.
Like, I definitely know I'm anempath, and I know that so many
of your listeners will be aswell, of course.
Like when you're a spiritualbeing, it's so easy to be
empathic and just want to helpeverybody and just, and I think
I think being a Virgo makes itvery grounded and practical with
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it.
And I think for me, how itshowed up in my life was I think
like four or five years ago, itreally kind of came to the
forefront when I was having aconversation with a friend and
she said, Emma, you don't allowyourself to receive from the
masculine.
And I was like, What?
And I felt so called out.
I was like, You're so right,but I don't want you to call it
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out.
So that was a big healingjourney for me to actually
understand why I really struggleto receive.
And I teach this in thereceiving step of law of
attraction.
So the five-step process that Iteach, the last step is
receive.
And I say to people, well,actually, receiving is not just,
woohoo, it's here, fantastic,celebrate, you know, express
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your gratitude.
Yes, that is the second part ofthe step, but it's still a
step, right?
And when we go from thatletting go and surrendering into
that receiving energy, we haveto be in the energy of
receiving.
It's not just going tomagically happen if we're not in
that energy of receiving.
And I think women, especiallyand people who identify as
women, really struggle toreceive.
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And I always say this to everylike talk workshop I do.
I'm like, ask yourself now, howmuch do you allow yourself to
receive in life?
It could be money, it could begifts, could be love, could be
support.
We can receive so much.
And just think about how muchdo you allow yourself to
receive?
Because I was someone who didnot allow myself to receive at
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all.
I was the giver, I was theprovider, I was like the support
for everybody.
And I loved doing that.
That, like, you know, that gaveme purpose.
That gave me such a greatfulfillment.
But then I had to allow myselfto receive too.
And, you know, it was a greatbig lesson for me with
manifesting and alignedmanifesting as well.
Because although I wasreceiving my desires, when I
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really healed that wound ofreceiving, and I noticed it
because I always used to feelweird when people would give me
gifts at like birthday andChristmas.
And I never knew why.
Like I would think, oh, there'slike something wrong with me.
Like, why do I feel weird whenpeople get me these lovely gifts
that I'm so appreciative for?
And then I really started tounpack that receiving mindset
and what blocks and beliefs wereunderneath that.
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And then when I released thatand allowed myself to receive
from all areas of my life,receive in work, receive in
relationships, receive infriendships, receive from
myself, receive from my family,like all aspects of my life,
just by doing the most simplestthings.
I was then receiving on a wholenew level.
And now the way I receiveabundance is so different.
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And it feels so easy becauseI'm in that energy of receiving.
And when I said, you know, geteveryone to think about like,
you know, what how much do youallow yourself to receive?
Like, just do one thing thisweek.
Think about something that youdon't allow yourself to receive
in, whether it's like supportaround the house or something
from your partner or whatever itis.
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Do something this week to allowyourself to receive.
Allow yourself to take thatstep back and allow yourself to
receive.
It could be the smallest thing.
And you will notice such achange in your abundance
mindset.
You'll notice such a change inyour manifestations and what's
flowing to you because you're inthat energy of receiving.
So it is really difficult whenyou're an empath and you just
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want to give and you want toshare with the world and you
really want to, you know, helppeople.
Like that is such an amazingquality to have.
Like, so amazing.
We need we need more of that inthe world.
But ultimately, it's about thatyin-yang, that polarity, that
balance of making sure that youallow your cup to be filled too,
making sure that you areallowing yourself to receive.
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Because when you're in thatfeminine energy of receiving,
then you are gonna magnetize somuch to yourself because you're
in that energy of receiving.
You're not just give, give,give, give, give.
You're like, it's okay and it'ssafe for me to receive too.
So you might resonate to what Isaid around my own unpacking
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around that.
You could have some differentbeliefs that have come up around
receiving.
So sometimes it can bereceiving money can be a real
big block for people.
So look at the block underneaththat if there is one.
Look at your relationship withreceiving all sorts, receiving
love, gifts, money, whatever itis, support, hugs, whatever.
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You know, look at yourrelationship with receiving and
see if there's anything that youcan work through with that,
because then you're gonna openthe doors as such for more
abundance because you're in thataligned energy of receiving.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (38:10):
That's amazing.
And what are some steps peoplecan take if they do identify
that they have blocks aroundreceiving?
Emma Mumford (38:18):
Yeah.
So I mean, hurt healing healedis going to be your best friend
for that to thoroughly andeffectively go through the
process.
But essentially, the one tipthat I really love to do, and I
guess I want to take it a littlebit away from the receiving
focus to actually identifywhat's underneath it.
So if you think about, okay,you've got a weird relationship
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with receiving money, forexample, we'll use that one.
So then identify what the keywords are underneath that.
Is it control or you know,whatever the words are, tune
into it, find it in your bodyand tune into it and see what
words are coming up underneaththat and see if it links to your
manifestation that you'retrying to manifest.
It may not always, that's whyI'm saying it may not, but
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ultimately think of your biggestdesire that you want to call
into your life and then tuneinto it, visualize it, see
yourself living that desire, andthen say to yourself, or hear
me say it now, yourmanifestation is not going to
happen.
And see where in your body thathit you.
And don't worry, yourmanifestation is going to
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happen.
Don't worry, it is, but it's agreat tool to identify where the
blockage is, where thatlimiting belief or fear or block
is.
And once you identify if it'sin your heart chakra, if it's in
your solar plexus, wherever,the chakra system can be a great
system to work with to identifywhere in your body it is.
Sometimes you can have them inlike your knees and stuff and
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you know, random places, andthat's fine too.
You know, tune into that area,tune into those words and
emotions and feelings that arecoming up.
And then you can really startto work with that and then say,
okay, what memories are comingup around this when I tune into
those key words, what ages arecoming up as well?
There's a whole set ofprocesses in the book to
lovingly guide you through allof this and release it.
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So there are some great toolsin that to help and guide you
with this, but it's a greatplace to start to identify what
is underneath that, but also howthat's impacting your
manifestations too.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (40:17):
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll have to go backthrough the book and revisit
that because I think it's reallypowerful how you have laid this
process out.
And I think that's an amazingexercise also to see where in
the body, chakra-wise, this isimpacting and how to be able to
then release it by understandingit first and going there from
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there with it.
So yeah, that's that's amazing.
And how would you say the powerof intuition factors into the
process of healing as well asmanifestation?
Emma Mumford (40:55):
Yeah, I think lots of people want to develop their
intuition.
They're like, I, you know, Isense stuff before it happens,
and those things are reallyexciting.
But what I find is, and what meand my good friend George have
had a good conversation aboutover the years is intuition
versus trauma.
And how, you know, over theyears, we've all experienced it.
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Like I can only speak from myexperience, but you know, like I
would feel things now be like,oh my God, that's like so meant
for me.
And then it wasn't.
And then I'm like, well, whatthe hell was that then?
Like, what the hell was Isensing?
So, yes, definitely that canfeel frustrating.
And I think that's why peoplethen question that intuition or
question those gut feelings andnigglings.
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But again, that's where Ireally want to say about the
nervous system again, because inthose examples I was giving,
yes, I thought my intuition wasshowing me that stuff, but my
nervous system was telling me avery different story, right?
So our nervous system and ourbody is our intuition too.
So that's why the embodiment ofyour manifestations and
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bringing it into the body is soimportant and regulation,
because that is all linked toour intuition as well.
I believe our intuition is thatall-knowing calm energy.
It's not going to stress youout, it's not gonna like fill
you with nerves and fill youwith fear.
Like that's not intuition.
And I've spoken about thisbefore, where you know, our
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fears, our limiting beliefs, ourtraumas can cloud that
intuition.
So we feel we know it'sintuition, but ultimately, you
know, those experiences areclouding that, where we think
that's intuition, but actually,does that answer stress you out?
Does that answer make you feelfearful?
Because then that's notintuition.
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So I always see intuition withmanifestation as like it's
great, but don't hold it toransom.
Like, you know, withmanifestation, it shouldn't be
about that control.
Like it doesn't matter at theend of the day.
If you sense somethingfantastic, like use that as
guidance, use that as a lovingtool, you know, but don't hold
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the universe to ransom with it.
Like life is so complex, and weare never going to understand
every complexity of theuniverse.
Like, what would be the pointof us being here if we already
knew it all right?
So I think our intuition guidesus to where we are in our life,
and we can use it absolutely tohelp us make decisions, to help
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lovingly guide us.
There are so many benefits toworking with your intuition.
But I think when it comes tomanifestation and when it comes
to healing, your intuition willbecome so much more grounded and
so much more potent and clearfor you when you clear those
inner blocks, that healing andthat resistance, because that's
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part of the inner child, innercritic ego that will be that
kind of intuition that'sscreaming at you and you know,
stressing you out and making youfeel like, I swear this is
meant for me.
But you're like a nervouswreck.
Like that's definitely notintuition.
So I think use intuition, likeI love it, I love working with
my intuition, but I'vedefinitely found that it's grown
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and the my relationship with myintuition has become so much
stronger and so much moregrounded since aligning and
since clearing any resistance tothat intuition.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (44:19):
Yeah, I feel like I've had a similar
experience, and I feel likethere's more clarity and peace,
and you know it's working whenyou feel at peace with it and
it's not stressing you out.
I think that's a really goodbarometer.
Is my intuition stressing meout right now?
Because if it is, then it maybe something covering that
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clarity and that needs to beaddressed and that is needing to
be cleared out.
So yeah, yeah, I think that'sso so important.
You also talked about theimportance of having a daily
routine, and in Ayurveda, we'reall about our daily and seasonal
routines as a way to reallylive in alignment with the
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rhythms of nature and be inharmony with the seasons and
with the flow of the day so thatwe can really be one with
nature and have the mostpeaceful and healthiest
existence possible.
Could you talk a little bitabout the importance of a daily
routine for the process ofmanifestation?
Emma Mumford (45:27):
Yeah, and I think I'll start off by saying that
daily practices are great for avery different reason.
I don't recommend them for thestate, well, for the purpose of
manifesting your desires, but Idefinitely think it helps in
that process.
So again, as I was sayingearlier, like people can get
very stuck in that ask stage oflike affirmations, meditations,
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subliminals, like journaling,scripting.
And I've had honestly, I've hadpeople come to me and read off
this whole list of everythingthey do every day.
And I'm like, how do you havetime for that?
Because that's stressing me outhearing what you do every day.
And they're like, I'm sooverwhelmed, I can't do it.
I'm like, I'm not surprised.
Like, we need to get rid of allof this.
So a daily practice should feelfun.
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A daily practice should notfeel like a chore.
And I write in the book, HurtHealing Healed, about a study
that was done in America in 2021by the sleep judge, where they
surveyed a thousand people, orover a thousand people, I think
it was, on their daily habits.
So it wasn't just based uponspiritual practices or
manifestation practices.
It was based upon anybody whohad a daily practice of like
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stretching, running,mindfulness, breath work,
meditation, journaling, like allsorts of things.
And they found that the peoplewho did have a structured
morning routine on averageearned $14,000 more a year than
people who didn't.
And they also went on to findtons of health benefits to like
reducing cholesterol, reducingblood pressure.
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Obviously, like people weremore relaxed, they were more
productive, they were morepositive minded.
So there's so many benefits tothis from a mindset perspective,
from a productivityperspective, even from a
financial and health perspectiveas well.
So those are like thescientific benefits as such.
But how that impactsmanifestation is you're raising
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your vibration with that.
So you're starting off your daywith some loving, enjoyable
practices, whatever they may be,whether it's affirmations,
scripting, meditation,stretching, whatever, whether
it's manifestation related ornot, you're gonna set yourself
up for success that day.
You're gonna go into your dayfeeling, you know, inspired and
motivated and feeling ready forthe day, which creates that
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container of positive energy.
So then you go throughout yourday experiencing positive things
because like attracts like.
And then by, you know, the timeyou get to the evening, stuff
happens, life happens.
You may not as feel as sparklyas you did in the morning when
you did your morning practice.
So that's why I think it'simportant as well to do a little
mini evening ritual to justrelease the stresses from the
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day, to release anything thatyou've picked up, to release
anything that's not serving you,basically.
So it doesn't have to be areally in-depth practice, a bit
of gratitude, maybe some readingto relax yourself.
Again, it's finding those toolsand practices that really work
for you because everybody'sdifferent.
Eight billion people are notgonna like all the same
practices.
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So it's finding something thatreally works for you and also
your patterns as well.
If you're like a night owl andyou're more like, you know,
willing or wanting to do thingsat nighttime, you might want to
do some more writing atnighttime.
If you're like an early birdwho feels more productive in the
morning, then you might want todo it in the morning.
So it's really about findingthose practices that work for
you and work for your morningand evening ritual.
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But doing these then createsthat positive momentum because
then when you go to sleep havingdone your evening ritual, you
then let go of any stresses forthe day.
And I always find that duringgratitude right before bed sends
me straight to sleep.
Like I sleep like a babybecause it's releasing, you
know, any negative emotions,it's releasing any stresses from
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the day so that I'm in thatgratitude attitude again and I'm
ready, and my brain's like,right, positive, let's sleep.
So then I'm waking up feelingthat positivity again.
And then I go into my morningritual and then create that
positive momentum.
So why it works formanifesting, even if you're not
doing manifesting practicesspecifically, is because it's
raising your vibration.
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You're in that positivecatalyst of positive energy
where you're doing self-lovingthings for yourself.
It's a form of self-love too,to raise your vibration and feel
good.
So it's fantastic formanifesting as a byproduct, but
I think we should do it allanyway, you know, to really help
our mindset and to help us feelgood in the day.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (49:46):
Definitely, definitely.
And one last question I wouldlove for you to talk about is
the inner child healing that youwrote about in your book and
what impact that has had on yourjourney with manifestation and
how that can just support thehealing process in general.
Emma Mumford (50:07):
And again, I would say some of the most powerful
discoveries in my manifestationjourney was inner child work.
So much so I've done a wholecourse on manifesting with your
inner child.
But how you know our innerchild is is within all of us.
We have that little inner childwithin us that lives with us
throughout our whole life.
And Carl Jung and Sigmund Freudhave done so much work around
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the inner child.
So if you love your psychologypoint of view rather than your
spiritual point of view, there'slots of amazing research out
there and studies done on it.
And it's part of the psycheessentially.
So we have that child versionwithin us.
And I personally believe thatour ego, our inner critic, is
our inner child.
So that voice within us that'slike, you're not good enough,
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you can't do this.
That is your little inner childwho just wants to be seen, who
wants to be heard, who wants tobe loved.
And we so often bash our innercritic and ego, swear at it.
I used to swear at mine all thetime, you know, but like, leave
me alone, you're not helpinganything, you know.
All the stories we say andshout at our inner critic with,
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but it just gets louder and itjust gets worse, right?
It doesn't ever go away when wedo that.
So when you speak to your innercritic, your ego lovingly and
say, okay, I see you, I hearyou, what's up?
Why, like, let's talk aboutthis.
Why do you feel this way?
The power instantly goesbecause it's that little inner
child who wants to be seen, whowants to be heard.
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So bringing that childlikemagic back into your life and
working with your inner child,and there's loads of tools in
the book to help you with that.
And I've got some stuff on myYouTube and podcast too, if you
want to dive into it, really canhelp you ignite so much fun in
your adult life.
Like I even say to people,like, do it just to have fun as
an adult.
Like, you know, it's not allabout healing and everything
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like that.
There's yes, it is, but there'salso so much magic that can
come from it in your adult lifeand bringing that childlike
spark and awe and wonder, youknow, into our adult lives
because when we grow up, thingsget serious.
The magic is kind of lost alittle bit until we, you know,
spiritually awaken and get backinto it.
If people do choose to do that.
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So working with the inner childreally brings that fun essence
back into our adult life andreminds us that, you know, there
is so much magic with children.
There is so much we can learnfrom them as well.
I learned so much from mylittle godchildren of how just
they see the world in thatmagical way.
And I think we all lose that inthis society, in this world.
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So inviting that back in has somany benefits and healing
benefits as well.
And of course, you know, if youhave gone through, and so many
of us have, you know, difficultchildhoods and difficult
upbringings, you know, workingwith your inner child to heal
and release that can be so, sopowerful for you.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (52:47):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
In my book, The Way of theGoddess, chapter eight is, I
think, my favorite chapterbecause it is about, okay, after
you've gone through thisintense journey where you've
really transformed andtranscended and set boundaries
and did all the hard inner work,then at the more advanced
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stage, it's important to reallyplay and have fun and bring joy
into the equation because itshouldn't always be serious all
the time, or the polarity oflife will not be there to
balance itself.
Because, on the one hand, wewant to have the great wisdom of
the sages and the elders andthe ancients, but part of their
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wisdom is their childlikeplayfulness and sense of fun,
which is informed by you knowthe spiritual wisdom and
concepts.
So it's not looking for funfrom clubs or alcohol or drugs,
but more from, you know, likeeveryday occurrences and the
smallest things and how we lookat it and our perspective that
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really makes such a bigdifference.
So, wow, this has been such anamazing learning experience
about so many things that areuncommonly explored in the world
of manifestation.
I'm sure our listeners aregonna really, really benefit
from hearing about this.
And where can they go to findyour new book and to learn about
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you and the work that you do?
Emma Mumford (54:18):
Yeah, and thank you for having me, Anantor.
I've loved this conversation.
It's been so much fun to, likeyou say, talk about so many
different aspects of manifestingtoday.
But yeah, if people want tofind out more, you can find
everything on my website, emmamumford.co.uk.
And you can find me on allsocial media platforms, but I'm
mainly on Instagram at I am EmmaMumford.
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And Hurt Healing Healed out nowfrom anywhere that sells books
worldwide in audiobook,paperback, and ebooks.
Same with all my books.
So yeah, they're a great placeto start and lots of fun as
well.
There's lots of manifestingtechniques and fun in there.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (54:53):
Amazing.
I love the worksheets also.
I think you've made it reallypractical for people to actually
write and reflect and do theinner work.
So thank you so much forsharing and for being on the
show with us.
Thank you so much for havingme.
Welcome back to the True to Yourself
podcast.
I'm Anantha Reepa Ajimera andhappy to welcome you to this
wonderful space where we explorethe power of authentic living.
I'm so happy to be joined todayby a very special guest named
Emma Mumford.
Emma is the author of threebooks, including the recently
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released Hurt Healing Healed.
Emma is the UK's leading law ofattraction expert.
She is an award-winning lifecoach, the host of the popular
Spiritual Queens Badass podcast,and the author of the
best-selling Positively Wealthyand the Positively Wealthy
Journal.
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We're going to be talking todayabout manifestation and all
kinds of things that you may nothave even ever known about
manifestation and how to reallymanifest in a way that's going
to be in alignment with yourtrue and highest self.
So welcome to the show, Emma.
It's so wonderful to have you.
Emma Mumford (01:14):
Thank you for having me, Anto.
I'm so excited to connect towell, obviously you came on my
podcast.
So I'm excited that we can talkabout manifestation today as
well.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (01:22):
Yes, yes, definitely.
And I would love to begin byjust hearing from you about a
time in your life when you weretrue to yourself and what impact
that made upon your whole life.
Emma Mumford (01:38):
And I love that question because I think it
challenges you so deeply tothink back all over all of your
experiences and think, gosh,like when was I really true to
myself?
And when I saw that questionbefore you sent it, like the
first thing that came into myhead was actually three years
ago, right before I startedwriting Hurt Healing Heels, I
think before that, like I thinkI was definitely, I would say
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like always true to myself andlike making those decisions.
But I feel like that onepinnacle moment in my life was
like I feel the one moment whereI was like, I was
wholeheartedly true to myselfand I knew what that meant as
well at that point.
So far, well, go backwards tothree years ago.
I'd finished writing PositivelyWealthy.
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And in Positively Wealthy, thebook talks about, and obviously
the journey and experience Iwent on was manifesting
everything off my vision board,a great problem to have, but
feeling really unfulfilledinside and feeling this like
gaping hole of like, oh, that'sstill there.
I've manifested all theseincredible things, but oh, I'm
still the same ever.
I still feel the same wayinternally.
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So that's when the inner workreally started coming up for me.
And during that time, I was ina really difficult relationship
and a relationship that I hadmanifested, but it was really,
really difficult emotionally.
It was toxic and it brought upevery single part of my inner
work journey.
I talk about it in Hurt HealingHealed, obviously, having a
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twin flame relationship.
It's not for the faint-hearted.
And obviously, I didn't reallyknow that's what I was going
through until sort of likereally when I was in it and
thinking, like, why is this allhappening?
And like, why is thisrelationship unfolding in this
way?
So that moment for me beingreally true to myself was
actually walking away from thatrelationship for good.
It was so difficult for so manyyears to do that for a whole
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multitude of reasons.
And for me, it was at thatpoint where I was like, no more.
I would be happy if I spend therest of my life by myself and I
choose myself.
And that's not good for me.
I'm not going to do thatanymore.
And it took probably everyounce of my soul to walk away
and make that decision.
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Because, like I said, it wasnot easy in any way, shape, or
form.
There was so much that wentinto that decision, it was years
worth.
But for me, that point justbefore my 27th birthday changed
my life forever.
And I thank that version ofmyself every day to be like,
thank you for making thatdecision because you paved the
way for so much abundance tocome into your life and so much
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healing as well.
And Hurt Healing Healed wasbirthed because of that.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (04:17):
That's amazing.
I love that story.
And I love that you acknowledgehow this was a relationship
that you did manifest and howthere can be this darker side to
manifestation that a lot ofpeople don't acknowledge or talk
about in the spiritual world.
It's all about manifest,manifest, manifest.
But then when you actually do,it's like, wait a minute, but
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that thing that we now want toremove was actually something we
once were drawing in throughseeking to manifest it.
And I think a lot of peoplehave that experience.
So what did you experience orrecognize in that journey about
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how to bring more alignment intothe manifestation process and
why it's important to do that?
Emma Mumford (05:09):
Yeah, and I really feel alignment is the key word
with that because we're alwaysaligning.
Like I think, you know, itwasn't that I wasn't aligned
before, I was aligned at thatpoint in my life.
But what was underneath wastrauma.
What was underneath waslimiting beliefs and fears.
So whilst I did manifest thatrelationship, and of course I
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wanted that relationship at thetime, what I did encounter was a
life lesson.
What I did encounter was a soullesson, something that my soul
had agreed to experience withinthis lifetime.
And I am so grateful for thatrelationship because it taught
me so much.
And like I would not be theperson that I am sat here now,
or I wouldn't have written herhealing healed if I hadn't have
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gone through all those karmiclessons and you know, really
embraced all the lessons withinthat in that relationship over
those three years.
So I don't look at it as anegative.
I don't look at it as, oh,that's like a bad side to
manifesting.
I'm like, well, the law ofattraction is one of the seven
energetic laws of the universe.
There's six other energeticlaws.
So I think so many peoplepigeonhole law of attraction as
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like the be all and end all, andlike if something bad happens,
you manifested it when that's sodamaging and harmful to so many
people to say that, becausethen you can get onto the
conversation.
Well, do children attract abuseto them?
Of course they don't.
Like that's not even worththinking about.
Of course they do not do that.
So when we talk about, and youknow, like I've had people
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message me saying, Oh, you know,I manifested a teaching job and
now I hate it and I want to dosomething else.
And I think sometimes we haveto have those things to learn
what we do want and what wedon't want.
And if we hadn't have had thoseexperiences, you know, the
universe is like, okay, so youthink you want to be a teacher,
okay, experience it.
And then you're like, whoa, no,that's not for me.
Okay, I mean, you think youwant that relationship.
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Whoa, okay, that's not for me.
So I actually think thatthere's blessings to all of
that.
It may not seem like that atthe point of course at that
time, of course, but Idefinitely feel there's so many
blessings and lessons withinthose experiences that enhance
our manifestations because thenwe're aligning, like you say,
with that true version ofourselves.
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We're going to learn things,inner work's going to come up,
and we're going to align andthink, okay, right.
So that's not quite what Iwanted.
What did I take away from thatexperience?
Right.
For me personally, it was toheal myself, to heal the past.
And that relationship was aninvitation for all of that to
come up to the surface.
If I hadn't have gone throughthat, it never would have come
up.
So I don't think there's a darkside to manifesting.
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I think it's a lack ofunderstanding around the other
energetic laws of the universe,which also contribute to our
experiences and to our life,like the law of polarity, for
example.
You know, we need the summer,we need the winter, we need the
yin, the yang to create thatequilibrium in the universe.
So I always say, you know, whenyou manifest something maybe
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that wasn't quite desired, or itwas, and then you thought,
actually, that's not for me.
That's just the law of polarityworking.
That's just life happening,where you then are like, okay,
I'm now getting closer to thatalignment.
I'm getting closer to thataligned desire that is for me.
And there's been so manyinstances over the years where
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I've like thought something wasfor me, or I was like, oh my
God, it has to be that way.
And the universe has dodged,like helped me dodge so many
bullets.
And thank God, like, you know,the universe has our back, the
universe does protect us withdivine redirection.
So I think it's looking outsidethe box and knowing that we are
always creating our realities,we are always the authors of our
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life, but actually, there'sother, you know, energies at
play here.
The universe is also guiding usalong a path to experience
things within this lifetime.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (08:57):
That's so interesting, also, to hear you
talk about the seven energeticlaws of the universe.
And you talked a little bitabout the law of attraction as
one of them, the law ofpolarity.
What are the other five?
Just out of curiosity.
Emma Mumford (09:11):
So I don't actually teach these, so I'm not
the full on.
I think now you're testing mymemory, Ananta.
It's law of gender is anotherone.
Oh gosh, I've got a whole videoon my YouTube on all seven.
Again, it's not something Iteach regularly, so it's not my
forte.
But I always just say topeople, because obviously the
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law of attraction is like myforte and what I teach, which is
the law of vibration.
So it's actually called the lawof vibration, the law of
attraction in those sevenenergetic laws.
You know, the law of polarityis one that I work with hugely.
The law of cause and effect,there's another one.
So again, the you know, theenergy we're putting out that
there's going to be an effect tothat.
So I like to say the law ofcause and effect is a bit like
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karma, really, of like what youput out is gonna, you know,
you're gonna receive more ofthat.
So they're really interestingto look into.
And I have got a YouTube videowhere I go into depth of all of
them.
But it's interesting when youlook at all seven, you can then
be like, right, well, actually,that makes a lot of sense of my
experiences and how lifeactually kind of works and how
the law of attraction isn't thebe all and end all, but it's
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actually this incredible toolthat you can use alongside all
these other things and tools,etc., to really, you know,
enhance your life andunderstand, okay, this is why
something happens, but how can Iuse that to my advantage?
How can I turn that whatever itis into an opportunity to
learn, to grow, to love whateverit is?
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (10:37):
That's beautiful.
Yeah, yeah, it definitelysparked my curiosity now to go
check out what those other onesare because I have to refresh my
memory now.
Yeah, I mean, I work a lot withI guess the law of cause and
effect because it is the law ofkarma.
So that's a very, veryimportant one that I'm
constantly attuned to.
And it's just interesting tosee how different concepts are
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presented in different wordsbecause certain things click at
certain times with certainpeople, you know.
So I'm I'm guessing it'll beprobably nothing new, but very
interesting to see what thoseare and how we need to look at
all of these factors in order tounderstand even the law of
attraction or the law ofvibration, as you said, which is
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that when we are vibrating at acertain frequency, we also
bring in things that are at thatsame kind of frequency, which
is not a static place on thejourney, but rather just where
we're traveling at a particulartime that we're on the journey.
So it's really, reallyinteresting.
In your book, I loved how youdescribed manifesting from a
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space of aligning with thehighest good of all, and really
tuning into your own body tofeel what that's like and really
to become like an instrument ofservice.
I thought that was reallyamazing because I I can connect
with it also in terms of theVedic spiritual tradition,
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because it's like the highestgood of all is like connecting
with dharma.
So is this in an alignment withdharma?
Does this not only benefit mebut benefit all beings?
And that's when we know thatthis is going to be a flow
situation and this is going tobe something in alignment.
I liked how you brought thefeeling in your body also into
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it, though.
And I was wondering if youcould describe what that process
of checking in with yourselfand your body especially is like
for assessing alignment.
Emma Mumford (12:43):
Yeah, and I think it's come from experience once
again, because for so longthroughout my manifesting
journey, and I know so manyothers as well, you know,
manifestation can stress peopleout.
It can actually be stressful toyour nervous system when people
are controlling, when peopleare in that state of attachment
and they're like, but this needsto happen, I have to have this.
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That's going to create so muchstress within your body.
And over the years, I've reallycome to realize that if I'm
trying to manifest something orif I'm, you know, going along a
process and I'm taking myinspired action towards that
desire and it's stressing meout, it's stressing my adrenals,
it's stressing my nervoussystem, it's not for me.
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And I take that step back and Iget into that embodiment of
like, right, ground back in, getback in your body, realign with
what's at the essence and atthe core of this, which is I'm
not in control, and my Virgoself loves to control.
So it's that reminder for meand for all of us that yes, we
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are the creators of our life, ifit's for the highest good,
right?
And that actually manifestationis a co-creation process and we
have to meet the universehalfway.
We're not going 90, 100% of theway, we're going 50% of the
way.
So, really, that embodiment isso, so important because when
you're manifesting from analigned space where you're
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grounded, you're regulated, andit feels good to your nervous
system, you will align so muchquicker with your desires.
Because again, even from like areally simple perspective,
you're going to be feelingprobably more happier, you're
going to be feeling more eaged,you're probably going to be
enjoying that process a lotmore.
And all of those emotions, likeattracts like, is going to
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attract that situation into yourlife because you're putting
that energy out there.
So by the law of attraction,you're going to attract those
feelings and more of thosefeelings back.
So that's why I feel alignmentand that embodiment is really,
really important because withyou know, with manifestation,
with spirituality work, it'svery much sort of like up there,
spiritual, cosmic, right?
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And actually, there's likethree aspects to it of mind,
body, spirit, as we know.
So actually, we need tomanifest with mind, body,
spirit.
So being spiritual and being upthere is fantastic, but also
you can manifest with MamaEarth, you can manifest with
grounding, you can manifest withnature, you can manifest with
your body and with your mind,etc.
So, really, and that's why Iput in in hurt healing healed,
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you know, like healing is mind,body, spirit, but also
manifesting is mind-body spiritas well, because we need to
embody all three to really bringit into our body, which is our
reality, right?
So if your manifestation isstressing you out, it's not your
manifestation.
You gotta let go of thecontrol, let go of the reins as
such, and hand it back to theuniverse and be like, right, how
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can I realign myself here andnow?
How can I bring myself backinto my body, regulate myself,
relax, ground back in, and thensee what happens.
And I always find when you dothat, the answers come.
When you do that, when you'relike, right, it's too much now
to hold on.
So I'm just gonna let it allgo.
That's when the miracles cancome in because the space is
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created and you're then back inalignment with your true self,
where you're not trying toforce, you're not trying to
push, you're not trying tocreate any of that energy.
You're like, right, clearlywhat I'm doing's not working.
So I'm gonna let this go andallow the universe to show me
what the way forward is.
So if anybody's listening andthey're feeling like I've tried
everything, like this is just sostressful, it doesn't need to
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be.
Manifesting can be easy.
It should be easy, it shouldfeel good to the nervous system.
And I've always found like themost powerful manifestations in
my life have felt so calming,have felt so grounded.
It's not been stressful, it'snot been like, ah, and I'm
learning all about this processright now with actually buying
my first home.
It's felt so stressful to mynervous system because I've
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never done this before.
And I'm like, no, this is notit.
This is not the vibe.
This is not gonna help me toreally fall in love with a house
if I'm sat here stressing andfeeling so like a nervous wreck
over the mortgage process, forexample.
So for me, it's been thatmoment of okay, let it go,
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realign.
And when we do that, you know,the opportunities come in where
you're not having to force andcontrol anymore.
Actually, the spiritualsolutions and guidance can come
in then.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (17:16):
That's amazing.
I love that.
I think that's really, reallybeautiful.
And can you speak a little bitmore to this necessity for
practicing detachment andsurrendering in order to become
the most powerful manifestingmagnets, as you say, in your
book?
Emma Mumford (17:36):
Yeah, probably the biggest life lesson I've gone
through, if I'm honest, in mymanifesting journey.
And it's something that justisn't spoken about enough in
manifesting.
Like I never read this in thesecret, I never read this, you
know, like the old school law ofattraction text.
So I never let go a day of mylife.
I don't know about you, Ananta,but didn't even know what that
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meant.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (17:58):
Well, it's a big part of the spiritual
teachings of Vedanta, and it's areally important part of
Ayurveda and yoga.
So I definitely understand itfrom the spiritual perspective
in terms of how we're guided,even in work or in
relationships, to put our fulleffort in, but then to fully
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detach from the outcome of theeffort that we're making, and
that both are important, boththe effort and the letting go
and surrender.
So it's definitely a conceptI'm very familiar with and is
hard to practice.
But when we really do practiceit, it does open up that space,
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I feel, to allow for the highestand best that is meant for us
to come in, whether that be thepolarity, right?
Of like something that seemspositive that could actually be
teaching us it's not for us, andthen something that may seem
really difficult that ends upthen being a great blessing in
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disguise.
But I think by having thatperspective, which is something
I've had to really train myselfin, it's not that it comes
naturally to us to do it.
We have to actually work hardto develop it.
So I I greatly appreciate thebenefit and importance of it.
And I agree with you.
I've never ever heard anyoneelse in the manifesting
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spiritual universe that's notkind of informed by the Vedic
spiritual tradition talk aboutthis, which is why I really
resonated with what you said,because I think a lot of what
you share is actually very muchrooted in the Vedic spiritual
tradition, which is unusual tofind because I do see that a lot
of times it's more of acommercialized view on
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manifesting, which is all aboutlike get what you want, which is
just what our world teaches us,right?
Like get what you want and getit quickly too, right?
Like, don't wait in line, don'thave to have any patience, but
you just press a button and youget what you want.
That whole kind of materialismmentality that allows for
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things.
And yeah, I feel like havinglearned about karma yoga, having
learned about Vedantaspirituality, and put it into
practice in my own life, it'sthe most powerful thing to
actually practice letting go.
And because it's so many of thethings that are small that we
hold on to, whether it's inrelationships with people or
just within our own heart spacethat end up then becoming big
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and becoming bigger problemsthan they needed to be, if we
could have just let go of themto begin with.
And even at a psychologicallevel, I feel like there's so
much we cling to and hold on tofor a sense of security outside
of ourselves that brings us awayfrom our true self.
So I was just so happy to readthis and to see you bringing
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this out and talking about it topeople because I think it's so
important.
Emma Mumford (20:57):
Absolutely.
And you know, what you'resaying there is that mind-body
spirit again of decluttering, ofletting go.
And because it's not spokenabout in Western teachings
enough, like I had no idea untilI read Gabby Bernstein's
Universe Has Your Back, and Iwas like, oh, this is what
you're meant to do.
So yeah, it's I would say it'sarguably one of the most
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important steps in themanifesting process, but it's
not spoken about enough.
And you're 100% right, youknow, traditional manifesting,
so commercialized, it's so kindof Western and like, get what
you want.
The ego loves that.
My ego loves it.
Our egos all love it becauseit's like fantastic.
It's gonna solve all myproblems.
And I can just manifest thisstuff, and life's gonna be
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fantastic.
But as I found out, I'mpositively wealthy, that doesn't
work.
Um, so you do have to do theinner work as well.
That does come up.
But actually, it really taughtme, you know, circling back into
what we said before aboutactually looking outside of
ourselves when we'remanifesting.
So asking yourself, why are youmanifesting that thing?
I've had clients say, I'mmanifesting a million pounds,
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it's on my vision board.
I'm like, fantastic, amazing.
What are you gonna spend it on?
Oh, I don't know.
I don't actually need it, buteveryone else is putting it on
their vision board.
So I've just put it on there.
And I'm like, okay, well,that's not gonna manifest
because you've got no idea whatyour why is.
You don't really care, whichkind of is a good detached
attitude to have.
But also there's not gonna beaction or any other energy
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behind that because you don'tactually care.
And is it your version ofwealth?
And what I mean by wealth inpositively wealthy is actually
your version of happiness, yourversion of wealth, not just your
version of money.
So it's really important thatwe ask ourselves that and
identify what our version ofwealth is to then identify are
we chasing somebody else's goaland manifesting what everyone
else on TikTok, Pinterest,Instagram are?
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Or is that actually what wetruly want at our soul essence?
Is that actually what we trulywant within our heart, our soul
as well?
So it's really important we askourselves those questions and
also take it further than that.
How can your manifestationimpact the collective too?
Because then you think about itjust out, you think about it
more than just yourself.
You then reflect it out andsay, okay, well, actually, I
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have the power to help so manypeople with this manifestation,
whether that's manifesting moneythat's gonna go towards a local
tradesman who's gonna help putdinner on the table for his
family, for example, or helpinga small business, and that has
that ripple effect.
So it's really great to askyourself these questions because
that deals with the controlside.
But the letting go side ofthings specifically is really
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about getting to into thepresent state because now is the
only time you're gonna receiveyour desire.
Not yesterday, not tomorrow,now, the present moment.
So so often we can live in thepast, so often we can live in
the future, but our desire canonly come in the now, in the
present moment.
So we have to be here toreceive it.
So in the letting go stage, Italk about, you know, really
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becoming grateful andappreciative of all the
blessings and amazing thingsthat you have here and now.
And actually by letting go andcreating that space, you are
creating the space for yourdesire.
Because just like what you weresaying about like, you know,
hoarding emotions, hoardingthings in life, we all do it.
Oh my gosh, we all do it.
And if you think about it,that's gonna create a lot of
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stagnant energy.
That's gonna create a lot ofstuck energy, cluttered energy.
Imagine it like a living room.
If you want to buy a nice,sparkly, shiny new lamp, but
your living room is full to thebrim of clutter, you can't see
the floor, there's stuffeverywhere, you're not gonna be
able to put the lamp in there.
There's nowhere to put thelamp.
But if you declutter, and thatdoesn't just mean to doesn't
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have to be physically in yourhome.
It can be an emotionaldeclutter, a spiritual
declutter, but absolutely do aphysical declutter in your home
and workspace too.
You create the space to put thelamp in, you create the space
for that desire to come intoyour life.
So I think there's so muchpower with decluttering, not
just in the sense of your home,but again, believe me, every
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time I do this, I'll get myfollowers to do it.
We all manifest abundanceafterwards because we are, you
know, shaking up that stagnantenergy.
We're inviting in that newenergy into our homes, into our
lives by clearing out anythingthat doesn't feel aligned
anymore.
So it's a really powerfulpractice to do.
But letting go is really aboutthe essence of getting present,
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being grateful, beingappreciative, and almost having
that mindset of actually notneeding your desire, which
sounds bizarre.
That's why it's quite a kind ofdifficult step to get your head
around because you can't fakeit till you make it with letting
go.
Like I think people think theother steps you really can fake
it till you make it.
But letting go is the one stepwhere the universe is like gonna
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call you out and be like, hun,we can see you're still
attached.
Like we can see you're stillcontrolling this.
And you know, people are like,I'm so detached, I'm so
surrendered, and then somethingwill happen, and they're like,
ah, and you're like, you'rereally not.
So, you know, a lot of timespeople think they're in step
four of the letting go processwhen actually they're in step
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two of the believe processstill.
So it is definitely a step thathas to be lent into, and it's
definitely a step that comesnaturally.
I don't think it's somethingthat you can force in any way,
shape, or form because lettinggo just isn't a forceful energy
anyway.
It's like a very feminineenergy where you are releasing,
you are surrendering, and you'realmost like relaxing into that
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receiving space.
So, in that energy, there isnot a controlling energy in
there.
It's an actual surrender toallow yourself to receive.
And I always say your desirewill happen when you need it the
least.
And that can be really hardfor, you know, I've found it
really hard to embrace that.
I know a lot of people havebecause the law of attraction
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puts so much force and controlof like, you must think about it
every day, you must do thisevery day.
So a lot of people stay in thatasking stage.
Ask, ask, ask, ask.
And they don't actually movedown the other stages of
manifestation or even into thatletting go stage, because I just
feel that there's a lot ofmisinformation and a lot of
control out there when actuallymanifestation is a co-creation
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process.
And actually, as you weresaying, surrendering to that
highest good, surrendering tothe higher power as such is so
powerful because we think weknow what's best for us.
And believe me, I definitelydon't always know what's best
for me.
We're all here to learn, right?
And by, you know, and I thinksometimes people think as well
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that letting go is giving up, orit's saying, Yeah, you know,
oh, I don't deserve what I wantor whatever.
And it's not that at all.
It's simply saying, I'm okay ifit happens, or I'm I'm okay if
it doesn't.
And when you allow somethingbetter into your life, this or
something better for the highestgood, it's never going to be a
downgrade.
Like I know over the years Ialways thought, oh, it's
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probably not going to be asgood.
And every single time, and Iknow every other single person
on this planet can agree, it'snever worse.
It's always better.
And we're like, thank God wedidn't get what we thought we
wanted because this is so muchbetter.
So it's really trusting in thatprocess of letting go of those
hows, whens, whys, all of thishows, because we're not in
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control of that.
We do our 50%, and the universemeets us 50% of the way.
So I feel if we all practicethat lettergo and surrendering
more, just in day-to-day life aswell, it can have such a
powerful impact on the abundancethat you receive as a whole
because you're in that receivingenergy.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (28:31):
Yeah, that's so amazing.
It's amazing also because it'sreflecting another Vedantic
teaching, which is around thetypes of action that we can take
in life and the kind of karmathat comes back as a result of
it.
And if we're just manifestingfrom a space of personal desire,
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then the law of karma in theVedanta philosophy teaches that
what you get back is somethingnot so great.
Even if you get the thing thatyou want, but it impacts you
negatively because it's comingfrom that self-interested space.
And when we have a desire forsomething that's unselfish,
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that's actually benefiting otherpeople or someone else at least
besides ourselves, then we getpositive karma back.
So more beneficial results comeback to us.
And if we're really tired ofcycling around this wheel of
samsara, as it's called in theVedic spiritual tradition, this
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wheel of suffering, ofconstantly going in a circular
motion and not getting out ofit, right?
Because we keep on, like yousaid, like thinking about the
thing that we want over and overagain and suffering as a result
of it, because we think we needit to complete us.
Then the actions that arerecommended to come out of this
whole wheel of suffering ofsamsara are what are called
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selfless actions.
And that's where you do exactlywhat you said, which is to ask
how can I be an instrument?
and simply.
We do what it is I ought to doand do those things that will
then bring a manifestation thatis feminine intention that's not
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just to benefit myself, but tobe like the sun training because
that's its nature.
And when the sun shines, it'sin its environment, it's in its
higher purpose.
And I feel that when we honorthe call to serve and to give,
that abundance naturally followsthat intention.
And the more beings we seek tobenefit from our actions, the
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more it purifies our karma andfrees us from our own mental
tackles.
And like you can bring themsomething even greater than what
we could have possiblyimagined.
So I think it's so wonderfulthat you are thinking about this
because I think it's soimmediate and so so important
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for people to understand thatthis is also how to manifest in
a way that is going to befeeling for my body and spirit,
not just manifesting and thennot knowing what to do, you
know, as a result of workingback and then wanting to
manifest more and more and moreand getting slightly obsessive
about it and constantly thinkingabout it.
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That's how we strengthen thatkind of like suffering as a
result of desire for somethingoutside of ourselves.
Whereas when we don't reallyhave the desire, which is what
you were talking about, when wedon't feel like we need it, but
we're seeking to manifest it,it's like what we say the
intellect, the part of the beingthat controls the emotional
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reactions of the mind, isactually setting manifestation
for something greater, somethingbetter from a space of no
emotional craving for it.
And that I feel is reallypowerful because when you're
fully in control of youremotions and able to surrender
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and to know what you can do andwhat you have to let go of, then
you're actually in such anoptimal state to really be able
to handle the million pounds,right?
And to know what exactly youwould do with that, which would
be benefiting yourself as wellas other people, and then
continuing that flow of natureand of it being a channel for
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abundance.
So yeah, I feel like we canmanifest a lot more when we're
not thinking to do it forfulfilling an emotional void
within ourselves, and that's areally, really important
understanding.
So I'm so happy that you wrotethis book about healing as it
relates to manifestation.
I think it's really, reallyawesome and so needed.
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And I want to hear you alsotalk about what is it like to
receive as an empath, especiallybecause a lot of empaths don't
really feel comfortable withthis idea of receiving.
And how can we as empathsactually open ourselves to that?
Emma Mumford (33:14):
And I think as well, like I want to talk about
it from a really practical pointof view.
Like, I definitely know I'm anempath, and I know that so many
of your listeners will be aswell, of course.
Like when you're a spiritualbeing, it's so easy to be
empathic and just want to helpeverybody and just, and I think
I think being a Virgo makes itvery grounded and practical with
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it.
And I think for me, how itshowed up in my life was I think
like four or five years ago, itreally kind of came to the
forefront when I was having aconversation with a friend and
she said, Emma, you don't allowyourself to receive from the
masculine.
And I was like, What?
And I felt so called out.
I was like, You're so right,but I don't want you to call it
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out.
So that was a big healingjourney for me to actually
understand why I really struggleto receive.
And I teach this in thereceiving step of law of
attraction.
So the five-step process that Iteach, the last step is
receive.
And I say to people, well,actually, receiving is not just,
woohoo, it's here, fantastic,celebrate, you know, express
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your gratitude.
Yes, that is the second part ofthe step, but it's still a
step, right?
And when we go from thatletting go and surrendering into
that receiving energy, we haveto be in the energy of
receiving.
It's not just going tomagically happen if we're not in
that energy of receiving.
And I think women, especiallyand people who identify as
women, really struggle toreceive.
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And I always say this to everylike talk workshop I do.
I'm like, ask yourself now, howmuch do you allow yourself to
receive in life?
It could be money, it could begifts, could be love, could be
support.
We can receive so much.
And just think about how muchdo you allow yourself to
receive?
Because I was someone who didnot allow myself to receive at
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all.
I was the giver, I was theprovider, I was like the support
for everybody.
And I loved doing that.
That, like, you know, that gaveme purpose.
That gave me such a greatfulfillment.
But then I had to allow myselfto receive too.
And, you know, it was a greatbig lesson for me with
manifesting and alignedmanifesting as well.
Because although I wasreceiving my desires, when I
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really healed that wound ofreceiving, and I noticed it
because I always used to feelweird when people would give me
gifts at like birthday andChristmas.
And I never knew why.
Like I would think, oh, there'slike something wrong with me.
Like, why do I feel weird whenpeople get me these lovely gifts
that I'm so appreciative for?
And then I really started tounpack that receiving mindset
and what blocks and beliefs wereunderneath that.
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And then when I released thatand allowed myself to receive
from all areas of my life,receive in work, receive in
relationships, receive infriendships, receive from
myself, receive from my family,like all aspects of my life,
just by doing the most simplestthings.
I was then receiving on a wholenew level.
And now the way I receiveabundance is so different.
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And it feels so easy becauseI'm in that energy of receiving.
And when I said, you know, geteveryone to think about like,
you know, what how much do youallow yourself to receive?
Like, just do one thing thisweek.
Think about something that youdon't allow yourself to receive
in, whether it's like supportaround the house or something
from your partner or whatever itis.
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Do something this week to allowyourself to receive.
Allow yourself to take thatstep back and allow yourself to
receive.
It could be the smallest thing.
And you will notice such achange in your abundance
mindset.
You'll notice such a change inyour manifestations and what's
flowing to you because you're inthat energy of receiving.
So it is really difficult whenyou're an empath and you just
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want to give and you want toshare with the world and you
really want to, you know, helppeople.
Like that is such an amazingquality to have.
Like, so amazing.
We need we need more of that inthe world.
But ultimately, it's about thatyin-yang, that polarity, that
balance of making sure that youallow your cup to be filled too,
making sure that you areallowing yourself to receive.
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Because when you're in thatfeminine energy of receiving,
then you are gonna magnetize somuch to yourself because you're
in that energy of receiving.
You're not just give, give,give, give, give.
You're like, it's okay and it'ssafe for me to receive too.
So you might resonate to what Isaid around my own unpacking
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around that.
You could have some differentbeliefs that have come up around
receiving.
So sometimes it can bereceiving money can be a real
big block for people.
So look at the block underneaththat if there is one.
Look at your relationship withreceiving all sorts, receiving
love, gifts, money, whatever itis, support, hugs, whatever.
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You know, look at yourrelationship with receiving and
see if there's anything that youcan work through with that,
because then you're gonna openthe doors as such for more
abundance because you're in thataligned energy of receiving.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (38:10):
That's amazing.
And what are some steps peoplecan take if they do identify
that they have blocks aroundreceiving?
Emma Mumford (38:18):
Yeah.
So I mean, hurt healing healedis going to be your best friend
for that to thoroughly andeffectively go through the
process.
But essentially, the one tipthat I really love to do, and I
guess I want to take it a littlebit away from the receiving
focus to actually identifywhat's underneath it.
So if you think about, okay,you've got a weird relationship
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with receiving money, forexample, we'll use that one.
So then identify what the keywords are underneath that.
Is it control or you know,whatever the words are, tune
into it, find it in your bodyand tune into it and see what
words are coming up underneaththat and see if it links to your
manifestation that you'retrying to manifest.
It may not always, that's whyI'm saying it may not, but
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ultimately think of your biggestdesire that you want to call
into your life and then tuneinto it, visualize it, see
yourself living that desire, andthen say to yourself, or hear
me say it now, yourmanifestation is not going to
happen.
And see where in your body thathit you.
And don't worry, yourmanifestation is going to
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happen.
Don't worry, it is, but it's agreat tool to identify where the
blockage is, where thatlimiting belief or fear or block
is.
And once you identify if it'sin your heart chakra, if it's in
your solar plexus, wherever,the chakra system can be a great
system to work with to identifywhere in your body it is.
Sometimes you can have them inlike your knees and stuff and
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you know, random places, andthat's fine too.
You know, tune into that area,tune into those words and
emotions and feelings that arecoming up.
And then you can really startto work with that and then say,
okay, what memories are comingup around this when I tune into
those key words, what ages arecoming up as well?
There's a whole set ofprocesses in the book to
lovingly guide you through allof this and release it.
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So there are some great toolsin that to help and guide you
with this, but it's a greatplace to start to identify what
is underneath that, but also howthat's impacting your
manifestations too.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (40:17):
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll have to go backthrough the book and revisit
that because I think it's reallypowerful how you have laid this
process out.
And I think that's an amazingexercise also to see where in
the body, chakra-wise, this isimpacting and how to be able to
then release it by understandingit first and going there from
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there with it.
So yeah, that's that's amazing.
And how would you say the powerof intuition factors into the
process of healing as well asmanifestation?
Emma Mumford (40:55):
Yeah, I think lots of people want to develop their
intuition.
They're like, I, you know, Isense stuff before it happens,
and those things are reallyexciting.
But what I find is, and what meand my good friend George have
had a good conversation aboutover the years is intuition
versus trauma.
And how, you know, over theyears, we've all experienced it.
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Like I can only speak from myexperience, but you know, like I
would feel things now be like,oh my God, that's like so meant
for me.
And then it wasn't.
And then I'm like, well, whatthe hell was that then?
Like, what the hell was Isensing?
So, yes, definitely that canfeel frustrating.
And I think that's why peoplethen question that intuition or
question those gut feelings andnigglings.
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But again, that's where Ireally want to say about the
nervous system again, because inthose examples I was giving,
yes, I thought my intuition wasshowing me that stuff, but my
nervous system was telling me avery different story, right?
So our nervous system and ourbody is our intuition too.
So that's why the embodiment ofyour manifestations and
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bringing it into the body is soimportant and regulation,
because that is all linked toour intuition as well.
I believe our intuition is thatall-knowing calm energy.
It's not going to stress youout, it's not gonna like fill
you with nerves and fill youwith fear.
Like that's not intuition.
And I've spoken about thisbefore, where you know, our
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fears, our limiting beliefs, ourtraumas can cloud that
intuition.
So we feel we know it'sintuition, but ultimately, you
know, those experiences areclouding that, where we think
that's intuition, but actually,does that answer stress you out?
Does that answer make you feelfearful?
Because then that's notintuition.
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So I always see intuition withmanifestation as like it's
great, but don't hold it toransom.
Like, you know, withmanifestation, it shouldn't be
about that control.
Like it doesn't matter at theend of the day.
If you sense somethingfantastic, like use that as
guidance, use that as a lovingtool, you know, but don't hold
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the universe to ransom with it.
Like life is so complex, and weare never going to understand
every complexity of theuniverse.
Like, what would be the pointof us being here if we already
knew it all right?
So I think our intuition guidesus to where we are in our life,
and we can use it absolutely tohelp us make decisions, to help
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lovingly guide us.
There are so many benefits toworking with your intuition.
But I think when it comes tomanifestation and when it comes
to healing, your intuition willbecome so much more grounded and
so much more potent and clearfor you when you clear those
inner blocks, that healing andthat resistance, because that's
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part of the inner child, innercritic ego that will be that
kind of intuition that'sscreaming at you and you know,
stressing you out and making youfeel like, I swear this is
meant for me.
But you're like a nervouswreck.
Like that's definitely notintuition.
So I think use intuition, likeI love it, I love working with
my intuition, but I'vedefinitely found that it's grown
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and the my relationship with myintuition has become so much
stronger and so much moregrounded since aligning and
since clearing any resistance tothat intuition.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (44:19):
Yeah, I feel like I've had a similar
experience, and I feel likethere's more clarity and peace,
and you know it's working whenyou feel at peace with it and
it's not stressing you out.
I think that's a really goodbarometer.
Is my intuition stressing meout right now?
Because if it is, then it maybe something covering that
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clarity and that needs to beaddressed and that is needing to
be cleared out.
So yeah, yeah, I think that'sso so important.
You also talked about theimportance of having a daily
routine, and in Ayurveda, we'reall about our daily and seasonal
routines as a way to reallylive in alignment with the
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rhythms of nature and be inharmony with the seasons and
with the flow of the day so thatwe can really be one with
nature and have the mostpeaceful and healthiest
existence possible.
Could you talk a little bitabout the importance of a daily
routine for the process ofmanifestation?
Emma Mumford (45:27):
Yeah, and I think I'll start off by saying that
daily practices are great for avery different reason.
I don't recommend them for thestate, well, for the purpose of
manifesting your desires, but Idefinitely think it helps in
that process.
So again, as I was sayingearlier, like people can get
very stuck in that ask stage oflike affirmations, meditations,
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subliminals, like journaling,scripting.
And I've had honestly, I've hadpeople come to me and read off
this whole list of everythingthey do every day.
And I'm like, how do you havetime for that?
Because that's stressing me outhearing what you do every day.
And they're like, I'm sooverwhelmed, I can't do it.
I'm like, I'm not surprised.
Like, we need to get rid of allof this.
So a daily practice should feelfun.
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A daily practice should notfeel like a chore.
And I write in the book, HurtHealing Healed, about a study
that was done in America in 2021by the sleep judge, where they
surveyed a thousand people, orover a thousand people, I think
it was, on their daily habits.
So it wasn't just based uponspiritual practices or
manifestation practices.
It was based upon anybody whohad a daily practice of like
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stretching, running,mindfulness, breath work,
meditation, journaling, like allsorts of things.
And they found that the peoplewho did have a structured
morning routine on averageearned $14,000 more a year than
people who didn't.
And they also went on to findtons of health benefits to like
reducing cholesterol, reducingblood pressure.
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Obviously, like people weremore relaxed, they were more
productive, they were morepositive minded.
So there's so many benefits tothis from a mindset perspective,
from a productivityperspective, even from a
financial and health perspectiveas well.
So those are like thescientific benefits as such.
But how that impactsmanifestation is you're raising
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your vibration with that.
So you're starting off your daywith some loving, enjoyable
practices, whatever they may be,whether it's affirmations,
scripting, meditation,stretching, whatever, whether
it's manifestation related ornot, you're gonna set yourself
up for success that day.
You're gonna go into your dayfeeling, you know, inspired and
motivated and feeling ready forthe day, which creates that
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container of positive energy.
So then you go throughout yourday experiencing positive things
because like attracts like.
And then by, you know, the timeyou get to the evening, stuff
happens, life happens.
You may not as feel as sparklyas you did in the morning when
you did your morning practice.
So that's why I think it'simportant as well to do a little
mini evening ritual to justrelease the stresses from the
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day, to release anything thatyou've picked up, to release
anything that's not serving you,basically.
So it doesn't have to be areally in-depth practice, a bit
of gratitude, maybe some readingto relax yourself.
Again, it's finding those toolsand practices that really work
for you because everybody'sdifferent.
Eight billion people are notgonna like all the same
practices.
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So it's finding something thatreally works for you and also
your patterns as well.
If you're like a night owl andyou're more like, you know,
willing or wanting to do thingsat nighttime, you might want to
do some more writing atnighttime.
If you're like an early birdwho feels more productive in the
morning, then you might want todo it in the morning.
So it's really about findingthose practices that work for
you and work for your morningand evening ritual.
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But doing these then createsthat positive momentum because
then when you go to sleep havingdone your evening ritual, you
then let go of any stresses forthe day.
And I always find that duringgratitude right before bed sends
me straight to sleep.
Like I sleep like a babybecause it's releasing, you
know, any negative emotions,it's releasing any stresses from
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the day so that I'm in thatgratitude attitude again and I'm
ready, and my brain's like,right, positive, let's sleep.
So then I'm waking up feelingthat positivity again.
And then I go into my morningritual and then create that
positive momentum.
So why it works formanifesting, even if you're not
doing manifesting practicesspecifically, is because it's
raising your vibration.
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You're in that positivecatalyst of positive energy
where you're doing self-lovingthings for yourself.
It's a form of self-love too,to raise your vibration and feel
good.
So it's fantastic formanifesting as a byproduct, but
I think we should do it allanyway, you know, to really help
our mindset and to help us feelgood in the day.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (49:46):
Definitely, definitely.
And one last question I wouldlove for you to talk about is
the inner child healing that youwrote about in your book and
what impact that has had on yourjourney with manifestation and
how that can just support thehealing process in general.
Emma Mumford (50:07):
And again, I would say some of the most powerful
discoveries in my manifestationjourney was inner child work.
So much so I've done a wholecourse on manifesting with your
inner child.
But how you know our innerchild is is within all of us.
We have that little inner childwithin us that lives with us
throughout our whole life.
And Carl Jung and Sigmund Freudhave done so much work around
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the inner child.
So if you love your psychologypoint of view rather than your
spiritual point of view, there'slots of amazing research out
there and studies done on it.
And it's part of the psycheessentially.
So we have that child versionwithin us.
And I personally believe thatour ego, our inner critic, is
our inner child.
So that voice within us that'slike, you're not good enough,
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you can't do this.
That is your little inner childwho just wants to be seen, who
wants to be heard, who wants tobe loved.
And we so often bash our innercritic and ego, swear at it.
I used to swear at mine all thetime, you know, but like, leave
me alone, you're not helpinganything, you know.
All the stories we say andshout at our inner critic with,
(51:08):
but it just gets louder and itjust gets worse, right?
It doesn't ever go away when wedo that.
So when you speak to your innercritic, your ego lovingly and
say, okay, I see you, I hearyou, what's up?
Why, like, let's talk aboutthis.
Why do you feel this way?
The power instantly goesbecause it's that little inner
child who wants to be seen, whowants to be heard.
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So bringing that childlikemagic back into your life and
working with your inner child,and there's loads of tools in
the book to help you with that.
And I've got some stuff on myYouTube and podcast too, if you
want to dive into it, really canhelp you ignite so much fun in
your adult life.
Like I even say to people,like, do it just to have fun as
an adult.
Like, you know, it's not allabout healing and everything
(51:49):
like that.
There's yes, it is, but there'salso so much magic that can
come from it in your adult lifeand bringing that childlike
spark and awe and wonder, youknow, into our adult lives
because when we grow up, thingsget serious.
The magic is kind of lost alittle bit until we, you know,
spiritually awaken and get backinto it.
If people do choose to do that.
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So working with the inner childreally brings that fun essence
back into our adult life andreminds us that, you know, there
is so much magic with children.
There is so much we can learnfrom them as well.
I learned so much from mylittle godchildren of how just
they see the world in thatmagical way.
And I think we all lose that inthis society, in this world.
(52:30):
So inviting that back in has somany benefits and healing
benefits as well.
And of course, you know, if youhave gone through, and so many
of us have, you know, difficultchildhoods and difficult
upbringings, you know, workingwith your inner child to heal
and release that can be so, sopowerful for you.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (52:47):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
In my book, The Way of theGoddess, chapter eight is, I
think, my favorite chapterbecause it is about, okay, after
you've gone through thisintense journey where you've
really transformed andtranscended and set boundaries
and did all the hard inner work,then at the more advanced
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stage, it's important to reallyplay and have fun and bring joy
into the equation because itshouldn't always be serious all
the time, or the polarity oflife will not be there to
balance itself.
Because, on the one hand, wewant to have the great wisdom of
the sages and the elders andthe ancients, but part of their
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wisdom is their childlikeplayfulness and sense of fun,
which is informed by you knowthe spiritual wisdom and
concepts.
So it's not looking for funfrom clubs or alcohol or drugs,
but more from, you know, likeeveryday occurrences and the
smallest things and how we lookat it and our perspective that
(53:51):
really makes such a bigdifference.
So, wow, this has been such anamazing learning experience
about so many things that areuncommonly explored in the world
of manifestation.
I'm sure our listeners aregonna really, really benefit
from hearing about this.
And where can they go to findyour new book and to learn about
(54:16):
you and the work that you do?
Emma Mumford (54:18):
Yeah, and thank you for having me, Anantor.
I've loved this conversation.
It's been so much fun to, likeyou say, talk about so many
different aspects of manifestingtoday.
But yeah, if people want tofind out more, you can find
everything on my website, emmamumford.co.uk.
And you can find me on allsocial media platforms, but I'm
mainly on Instagram at I am EmmaMumford.
(54:38):
And Hurt Healing Healed out nowfrom anywhere that sells books
worldwide in audiobook,paperback, and ebooks.
Same with all my books.
So yeah, they're a great placeto start and lots of fun as
well.
There's lots of manifestingtechniques and fun in there.
Ananta Ripa Ajmera (54:53):
Amazing.
I love the worksheets also.
I think you've made it reallypractical for people to actually
write and reflect and do theinner work.
So thank you so much forsharing and for being on the
show with us.
Thank you so much for havingme.
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